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A
A
And
the
second
one
will
be
a
discussion
about
parking
in
Evanston.
We've
heard
lots
from
from
people
on
that
issue.
So
we'll
be
talking
about
that
tonight.
We
do
have
six
of
the
council
members
here.
Alderman
Rainey
I
couldn't
be
here
this
evening,
so
that
was
known
aldermen
suffered
in
is
with
another
community
group
and
will
be
joining
us
shortly
and
I
believe
alderman
Fleming
is
walking
through
the
door
right
now
so,
including
all
the
men
Fleming
will
just
be
joined
by
alderman
suffered
in
later
and
will
have
eight
of
our
council
members
here
tonight.
A
Announcements
before
we
had
to
public
comment
in
terms
of
mayor
announcements,
I
don't
have
any
other
than
I
hope.
People
are
prepared
for
the
crazy
weather
we're
having
around
here
in
Evanston
this
past
weekend,
where
we
had
snow,
we
had
Sun,
and
then
we
had
a
good
day
of
rain
today.
So
hopefully
spring
is
on
its
way.
City
manager.
Do
you
have
any
announcements?
Okay,
city
clerk
I,
know
you're
here
you
know
here
you
are
on
your
way.
A
A
Okay,
we've
got
13
people
signed
up
today,
so
what
we're
gonna
do
is
everyone
can
have
up
to
three
minutes
tonight
for
their
public
comment,
clerk
read
will
keep
track
of
the
three
minutes
and,
just
with
ten
seconds
left
there'll
be
a
little
alarm
that
goes
off
if
you
can
just
wrap
it
up
in,
like
ten
seconds
after
that,
that
would
be
great
city
manager.
Babka
wits
is
going
to
keep
track
of
the
total
time
of
45
minutes.
The
way
the
rules
are
set
up.
A
The
City
Council
meeting
will
proceed
right
after
45
minutes
is
past
and
I'd
say
in
the
last
couple
meetings,
since
we've
been
keeping
track.
This
way,
we've
been
doing
a
good
job,
getting
a
public
comment
wrapped
up
in
45
minutes,
so
I
appreciate
everybody
respecting
the
time.
A
limit
that
we
have
so
different
residents
can
have
a
chance
to
share
perspectives.
So
with
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
and
start
with
public
comment
today,.
A
Okay
and
so
the
the
thirteen
people
that
we
have
I'll
call
off
the
first
three
names
and
if
you
would
come
on
up
and
just
announce
your
name
and
if
you're,
with
a
ward
or
a
particular
business,
and
you
want
to
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
the
council,
please
do
at
the
beginning-
we've
got
Amalia,
Mallos,
Julie,
Mathai
and
then
Don
Okamoto
and
I
apologize.
If
I'm
mispronouncing
anyone's
name
welcome.
You
could
just
come
right
up
to
the
yeah
to
that
lectern
right.
There.
D
D
Remember
sitting
with
the
City
Business
Development
Committee
a
number
of
years
ago,
discussing
location
and
pulse
on
the
SEC,
telling
me
that
the
future
of
retail
on
Main
Street
was
experiential
retail
and
that's
what
I
offer
in
addition
to
standard
retail
I
offer,
I
have
a
studio
in
my
store
and
I
offer
classes,
and
those
classes
are
up
to
three
hours
long
and
until
now
we've
been
doing.
Okay
with
that
in
terms
of
public
parking.
D
There
are
metered
parking
spots
right
in
front
of
my
store,
there's
Main
Street,
and
there
is
a
parking
lot
across
the
street
from
Vogue
fabrics
and
that's
been
catching
most
of
the
parking.
It's
you
know
sometimes
congested,
but
it's
it's
available
and
with
the
change
in
the
proposed
changes
in
the
city
parking
rules,
I
will
no
longer
be
able
to
offer
three-hour
classes
without
the
risk
of
my
clients
being
ticketed.
D
So,
for
example,
I
can't
say
to
someone,
even
after
a
two
or
two-and-a-half
hour
class.
Why
don't
you
go
down
and
have
margaritas
in
a
taco
at
la
principal
or
stop
in
for
a
glass
of
wine,
be
at
wine
goddess,
because
they
don't
have
time
and
they
will
have
to
again
move
their
car,
which
is
a
great
inconvenience
and
I
think
really
runs
the
risk
of
somebody
saying
you
know
what
I'm
just
gonna
go
home
or
I'm
gonna
go
someplace
else
where
I
know,
there's
a
parking
lot
and
speaking
of
parking
lots.
D
Downtown
Evanston
is
equipped
with
parking
lots
to
handle
this
problem
where
you
can
park
indefinitely
and
store
your
car
and
not
have
to
worry
about
it
and
be
relatively
close
to
the
businesses
that
are
nearby
but
mainstream
does
not
have
this
option,
and
that
is
another
thing
that
I
think
could
be
considered
to
help
solve
this
problem.
I
mean
I'm
not
here,
to
just
complain,
but
to
say
that
you
know.
D
A
E
I
read
through
the
31
0
19
ordinance
believe
it
or
not,
I
did
read
it.
The
whole
thing
to
amend
a
title:
10
chapter
11,
section
12
of
the
parking
meter
zones
and
while
some
of
the
issues
that
we
brought
up
are
addressed
in
that
document,
including
extending
the
amount
of
time
and
secondary
meter
streets
being
changed
to
two
to
four
hour
parking
I
was
concerned
because
the
bulk
of
our
concerns
are
not
reflected
in
that
document.
E
E
We
had
also
asked
to
create
a
B
or
business
zone
parking
in
residential
areas
from
9
to
5
to
accommodate
small
business
employees,
there's
absolutely
nowhere
for
them
to
park
for
an
extended
period
of
time,
which
makes
it
even
harder
to
hire
and
retain
staff
hiring
right
now
for
any
small
business
is
difficult
as
it
is.
There's
no
mention
of
this
request
in
the
document
as
well.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
up
for
discussion
at
some
point.
E
We
were
also
hoping
that
the
city
would
considered
to
allow
local
business
vehicles
that
have
signage
to
be
parked
in
residential
neighborhoods.
Smaller
delivery
vans
should
be
able
to
park.
We
pay
the
same
wheel.
Tax
as
everyone
else
and
I
think
that's
a
very
important
thing.
We
were
hoping
to
maybe
consider
having
parking
officers
issue
a
warning
for
first-time
offenses,
so
that
when
people
come
in
from
outside
of
Evanston,
their
first
experience
with
Evanston
is
not
to
get
a
parking
ticket.
Maybe
it's
just
a
warning.
E
We
also
extended
if
you
could
do
a
trial
in
a
district
offering
a
half
hour
one
hour
free
parking,
just
like
the
downtown
garages
to
increase
short-term
parking
spaces
with
meters
to
accommodate
turnover
or
people
doing
grab
and
go
shopping.
Please
consider
reinstating
free
parking
on
Sundays.
Please
consider
eliminating
the
convenience
fee.
I
know,
that's
something
you
got
to
work
out
with
the
business
you're
contracted
with
also
to
replace
loading
zones
that
have
been
eliminated
and
improving
signage
that
and
identify
zones.
E
It's
too
small
and
hard
to
read
from
a
distance
and
people
wind
up
getting
a
ticket
looking
at
schedule,
12
parking
meter
zones
in
the
ordinance
we
see
there
are
some
modifications
to
address
some
of
the
parking
issues.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
understand
this
without
looking
at
a
map,
but
when
I
look
specifically
at
my
area
on
Dempster
Street,
Northside,
Elmwood,
first
alley
of
Elmwood,
this
used
to
be
free
parking.
Now
you
have
to
pay,
but
there
are
several
spaces
consistently
open
in
the
city.
E
Parking
lot,
23
right
next
to
this
space
and
more
people
have
opted
not
to
pay
for
permit
parking
and
that
lot
due
to
the
significant
price
for
that
permit,
there's
been
a
price
increase
for
all
city
Lots.
Converting
some
spots
in
LA,
23
metered
parking
during
the
day
is
an
easy
way
to
make
up
lost
revenue
and
provide
parking
for
people.
It's
just
one
example,
and
probably
to
close
the
most
important
thing:
better
communication
with
the
city
when
changes
are
going
to
have,
and
we
really
appreciate
the
parking
divisions
response
to
our
concerns.
E
It
would
be
helpful
if
the
city
would
reach
out
to
residents
and
business
owners
more
closely
than
they
already
do
and
more
regularly.
As
we
continue
to
deal
with
these
parking
issues.
In
the
memo
to
the
city
from
Erica
and
Jill
from
parking,
it
is
stated
that
the
parking
staff
will
continue
to
monitor
these
business
areas
and
bring
an
update
to
the
City
Council
in
four
to
six
months.
E
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
this
update
happens
sooner
than
that,
perhaps
two
to
three
months
and
that
the
parking
staff
solicit
feedback
from
business
owners
during
that
time.
If
we
work
together,
our
hope
is
that
we
can
avoid
further
issues
in
the
future
and
all
be
happy
business
owners
and
residents
of
Evanston
thanks
very
much.
Thank.
F
A
G
A
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jane
Wickham
camp
I'm
from
the
sixth
Ward
I've
been
a
member
of
the
age-friendly
task
force,
affordable
housing
committee
for
over
six
years
and
I'm
committed
to
having
affordable
housing
for
seniors
be
available
here
in
evanston,
housing
for
seniors
between
the
ages
of
65
and
85
of
age
is
increasing
a
demand
as
people
age
and
as
they
have
to
sell
their
homes.
So
the
demand
is
going
to
be
greater
I'm.
H
The
City
Council
is
open
for
discussion
with
regard
to
mixed
income,
housing
by
the
Jane
Perlman
building,
I.
Think
that's
that's
a
model
for
all
of
us
to
consider
and
I
hope.
They
hope
that
you
continue
to
discuss
those
options
for
other
properties
and
other
developments.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
I
I'm
Mary
DeYoung
I'm
in
the
fourth
fourth
and
I've,
been
living
there
for
almost
20
years
now,
because
it's
a
mixed,
it's
a
diverse
area
and
it's
more
affordable
than
some
of
the
other
areas.
I've
been
involved,
as
has
Jane
in
the
have
an
age-friendly
Evanston
task
force
for
about
six
years,
and
we've
been
working
really
hard
to
try
to
keep
housing
affordable,
especially
for
seniors,
but
certainly
not
only
so
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
would
really
support
anything
that
we
can
do
either
with
the
Perlman
building
or
other
buildings.
I
A
J
Heidi
and
City
Council
I
wasn't
really
ready
to
speak
tonight,
but
I
will
I
live
at
833,
Sherman,
Avenue
side
kind
of
I'd
like
to
address
the
parking
a
little
bit.
We
used
to
be
a
two-hour
parking
during
weekdays.
Now
we're
a
you
have
to
be
a
city
resident
to
park
there
from
7:00
to
9:00
in
the
morning
that
Street
is
filled
all
day
long
with
people
taking
the
train.
J
The
metro
I
think
that's
important
if
people
take
the
metro,
but
that
that
took
away
parking
for
Main
Street
quite
a
bit
as
it
needs
to
be
a
two-hour
turn
over
there,
so
I
think
that's
something
to
consider.
The
main
reason
I'm
here
is
about
the
affordable
housing
for
seniors.
Like
Mary
said
we,
you
know,
there's
been
a
task
force
working
on
this
for
six
years,
the
City
Council
even
approved
the
findings
of
the
task
force
a
few
years
ago,
and
one
of
the
focuses
is
affordable
housing
for
seniors.
J
We
have
a
lot
of
seniors
that
are
ready
to
sell
their
homes,
but
they
want
to
stay
in
Evanston
and
it's
not
affordable.
Unless
you
have
enough
money
to
really
pay
a
high
rent
and
I
think
anything
the
city
can
do
you
know
you
get
the
you
grant
a
lot
of
exemptions
to
to
builders
in
order
to
help
them
develop
things.
I
would
hope
that
you
could
also
do
something
like
that
for
affordable
housing.
J
Personally
I'd
also
like
to
see
if
some
of
the
affordable
housing
could
be
deeded,
so
it
stays
affordable,
housing
that
it's
not
used
by
a
developer
to
build
and
then
down
the
road.
It
slips
away
again,
I
like
the
hard
work
that
all
of
you
are
doing
in
regards
to
your
job
and
running
the
city.
I
know
it's
not
easy.
Thank
you.
K
Good
evening,
I'm
sue,
Lobeck,
I,
work
at
connections
for
the
homeless
and
I
have
to
say,
I,
really
like
these
quarterly
meetings,
not
just
because
they're
about
affordable
housing,
but
because
we're
hearing
I
mean
there's
such
great
progress,
that's
being
reported
and
primarily
on
paving
the
way
for
more
affordable
housing.
I
think
the
report
tonight
is
really
really
encouraging.
I
also
think
one
of
the
things
that's
exciting
about
the
report
is
I
think
we
are
going
to
start
seeing
some
actual
new,
affordable
units
coming
online.
K
That's
something
I
think
we've
been
paving
the
way
for,
but
we
haven't
actually
been
seeing
a
change
yet
and
I
hope
we're
gearing
up
for
that.
However,
I
think
those
actual
changes
is
where
things
could
start
to
get
difficult,
because
change,
as
we
know,
has
been
difficult.
The
developments
that
we've
been
seeing
and
evanston
have
been
difficult.
A
L
Matthew
couldn't
be
here
because
he
has
a
lacrosse
game
at
the
high
school
right
now,
but
we're
both
speaking
on
the
same
topic,
which
is
parking
in
Evanston
Matthew,
has
a
1986,
Ford
f-150
pickup
that
you
can
watch
the
gas
gauge
drop
as
he
drives
it.
He
paid
for
the
truck
he
pays
for
his
gas.
He
pays
for
his
own
maintenance
and
his
parking
tickets.
L
He
was
issued
a
parking
ticket
near
the
high
school
for
$75
and
he
would
like
to
say:
Robert
Crown
was
not
supposed
to
cost
the
taxpayers
of
Evanston
any
money,
and
he
is
complaining
that
the
$75
is
a
tax
on
people
who
live
here.
A
$75
ticket
for
a
street
cleaning
is
really
egregious
and
it's
a
regressive
tax
that
hits
everyone
and
he
worked
on
Easter
to
make
money.
So
he
can
buy
a
scooter
that
is
more
economical,
guess
and
the
day
after
Easter
made
God
is
$75
Parkington
it.
L
This
is
significant
because
now
switching
to
Laurie,
Keenan
on
April
18th
I
went
to
an
education
thing,
downtown
and
I
paid
for
my
parking
and
I
came
out
and
there
was
a
parking
person
in
a
car
behind
several
cars
and
I
thought.
Oh,
it
doesn't
affect
me
and
I
was
on
my
way
to
a
business.
Meeting
downtown
I
said
doesn't
affect
me,
because
I
knew
I
had
time
on
my
meter
and
when
I
went
to
my
car
I
had
a
ticket,
even
though
I
had
paid
the
meter.
L
So
I
went
to
the
parking
person
and
standing
in
the
rain,
showing
the
paid
meter
for
my
car
parked
there
and
she
was
able
to
take
the
ticket
and
destroy
it.
That
was
the
18th.
The
22nd
Matthew
got
his
ticket.
The
24th,
which
happens
to
be
my
birthday.
We
were
at
dinner
with
several
families
on
our
way
to
a
lacrosse
game.
L
We
parked
we
paid
the
meter
we
went
in,
we
were
having
dinner
with
families,
we
saw
the
parking
person
out
front
and
I'm
telling
the
story
about
getting
the
bogus
parking
ticket
not
a
week
earlier,
and
one
of
the
guys
we
were
looks
out.
The
window
he's
like
is
that
guy
giving
me
a
ticket
and
sure
enough,
he
was,
and
my
friend
argued
with
the
meter
person,
but
he
hadn't
issued
the
ticket
yet
and
he
showed
him.
L
He
had
paid
the
meter
and
the
guy
acted
like
he
had
no
idea
how
this
could
happen,
and
so
then
I
walked
out
to
see
him.
Circling
our
car
and
our
paid
meter
and
watched
him
take
a
picture
of
the
car
which
meant
he
was
issuing.
A
ticket.
I
walked
up
and
I
said:
hey,
wait
here,
I've
paid
this
ticket
I
paid
the
meter.
This
is
an
error.
It
happened
to
me
less
than
a
week
ago.
It
just
happened
to
our
friends.
What
are
you
doing?
You
know
this?
L
Is
the
problems
couldn't
possibly
be
the
case,
and
he
said
he
had
no
idea.
He
was
going
to
call
the
police
on
me
because
I
used
the
word
which
I
couldn't
think
of
another,
better
definition
of
what
was
going
on
and
he
issued
the
ticket
which
I
have
here.
Even
though
I
showed
him
we
had
paid
it,
he
got
the
times
backwards.
He
said
no,
you
paid
at
7:55
and
I
issued
it
I'm
like
no
dude
I
paid
at
729
you're
issuing
in
755.
L
Well,
another
woman
in
bluestone
said
that
she
it
had
happened
to
her
and
the
woman
at
scissors.
Palace
said
it
happened
to
a
client
of
hers.
Earlier
in
the
day,
this
couldn't
be
an
isolated
incident.
Now
I
like
to
be
paranoid
about
the
city
of
Evanston.
It
couldn't
be
just
happening
to
me
if
it
happened
to
me
twice
in
a
week
and
happened
to
another
family
at
the
same
dinner
table.
Another
woman
in
the
restaurant
and
the
business
owner
next
door
was
complaining
that
happened
to
her
customer
there's
a
big
problem
and
I.
L
A
M
Priscilla
Giles
of
the
fifth
Ward
I
came
across
something
I'd
like
to
read
to
you.
It's
dated
March
6
1960,
another
bond
issue
shaping
up.
While
we
are
struggling
under
heavy
tax
burdens,
it
seems
that
more
will
be
soon
to
be
added
to
our
present
load,
a
bond
issue
for
an
artificial
ice-skating
rink
you
can
substitute.
The
names
seems
almost
certain
according
to
what
I
can
see
by
our
local
news.
All
that
is
left
to
be
done
is
to
condition
the
minds
of
a
few
people
and
call
a
special
election
for
the
bond
issue.
M
It
is
reported
that
the
City
Council
is
in
favor
of
it
that
just
about
clinches
it
it
will
very
likely
be
no
opposition,
except
for
a
few
pensioners
and
social
beneficiaries
and
yet
well,
not
not
matter
the
binding.
She
was
said
to
be
based
on
the
lack
of
natural
ice.
So
far,
this
season,
I
am
of
the
opinion
that
the
present
recreational
facilities
are
sufficient.
It
will
be
until
we
have
time
to
see
what
the
Lord
will
do
about
it.
M
M
Those
who
live
here
may
seek
cheaper
localities,
thus
saving
ordinances
from
being
passed
to
that
effect
and
I
think
that
the
so
the
supposed
affordable
housing
should
afford
be
affordable,
not
just
for
firemen
and
policemen
teachers,
but
also
for
the
people
who
serve
those
people,
the
people
who
are
serving
the
children
on
the
buses,
the
bus
drivers,
the
bus
keepers,
the
teacher
aides,
but
we
need
help.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
Well,
at
the
game,
we
began
with
James
for
bringing
up
affordable
housing
in
terms
of
his
priorities,
which
says
a
lot
and
with
regard
to
his
character
and
care
for
others,
considering
his
flight
he's
an
example
of
what
we
all
should
be
doing
for
each
other.
In
terms
of
what
I
wanted
to
speak
to,
it
became
even
clearer
with
the
other
speakers
that
the
burden
that
the
people
in
the
middle-class
and
low-income
classes
are
increasingly
receiving
is
the
problem.
N
The
rushing
with
regard
to
making
decisions
is
also
a
problem,
and
it's
evidenced
by
the
fact
that
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
was
not
submitted
until
after
Sunday,
because
it
wasn't
online.
So
I
didn't
see
the
summary
which
says,
oh
by
the
way,
housing
preservation,
which
is
needed
in
my
ward,
not
just
for
me,
I
found
out
just
today,
so
I'll
be
able
to
elaborate
further,
but
that
even
seventh
ward,
so
every
Ward
needs
affordable
housing,
remediations
of
some
shape
or
form
homeowners
staying
in
their
homes
is
the
definite
cheapest
solution.
N
Okay,
cheapest
of
all
the
things
you're
doing
to
make
the
businesses
prosper
at
the
expense
of
residents.
Who
could
prosper
themselves
in
their
own
homes?
This
inequity
persists
in
the
separation
of
rich
and
poor
and
makes
it
larger.
The
city
has
the
duty
to
do
the
cure
and
not
just
fix,
do
a
band-aid
fix,
and
that
is
the
voice
of
everyone
here
that
I
see,
except
for
certain
people
who,
unfortunately,
don't
get
it
and
the
ones
who
don't
get
it
are
visible
in
every
video
and
you
can
tell
for
yourself.
Thank
you.
N
O
Good
evening,
ray
Freedman,
second
ward,
I
didn't
have
time
to
write
up
a
speech
for
tonight
and
I
hate
speaking
off-the-cuff,
but
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
was
on
January
29th.
There
was
a
resolution
to
to
release
closed
session
meetings
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
was
ever
done.
So
that's
one
question
I
have
another
question:
I
have
is
on
Ward
meetings.
O
I
I
noticed
a
couple
of
times
that
it's
been
said
that
the
the
aldermen
who
are
running
the
meeting
have
an
agenda
to
follow
and
they
don't
want
to
talk
about
anything
else,
except
what's
on
their
agenda
and
looking
at
all
the
documents
and
what
protocol
is?
Is
it's
an
open
forum?
You
can
talk
about
anything
you
want
to
talk
about
so
then.
Why
would
that
be
restricted
whatever
it
is?
That
residents
want
to
talk
about
last
thing.
I
want
to
talk
about.
O
Is
your
I
guess,
approving
the
goals
for
Knight
to
2019,
slash,
2020
and
I
focus
on
stabilize
long-term
city
finances,
which
the
city
manager
had
told
me
a
year
ago,
which
I
did
print
out
from
February
19th
2018
it
is.
It
is
specifically
written
and
it's
well
written,
but
it
needs
to
be
up-to-date
because
those
numbers
are
from
a
year
ago,
so
so
current
long-term
city
finances,
it's
seems
very
vague
to
me.
There's
nothing
specific
in
here
about
stabilizing
long
term
city
finances.
It
says,
first
of
all,
what
can
this
mean?
O
Okay,
I
want
to
know
what
does
it
mean
so
it
says:
diversify
and
expand
revenue
to
meet
needs
of
the
future.
How
there's
no
numbers
in
here
there's
nothing
concrete
in
the
2018
plan
you
have
everything
spelled
out
all
the
numbers
are
there
for
what
it's
going
to
cost,
what
it
would
cost
taxpayers
a
year
ago,
make
responsible
long-term
financing
decisions
again
how
and
where
long
range
city,
citywide
financial
planning,
I.
O
Don't
there's
nothing
here
tangible
that
you
can
sink
your
teeth
into
to
say
you
know
this
is
a
plan,
but
you
don't
have
the
details,
there's
no
details
of
a
plan
for
stabilizing
city
finances
and
I
thought
that
was
the
goal.
So
how
can
you
pass
this
agenda
item
without
any
details?
Levee
powers
is
a
Home
Rule
community.
What
does
that
mean?
That
means
just
you're
gonna
raise
people's
taxes.
Whenever
you
need
the
money
that
could
be
a
problem.
O
Smart
use
of
Thyssen
TIF
incentives,
I
have
a
problem
with
that,
because
you're
using
gold
bonds
to
pay
for
Tiff's,
which
means
that
that
money
that
you
took
out
of
the
bond
to
pay
for
the
TIF
is
now
costing
us
twice
as
much,
because
it's
a
bond,
okay,
annual
review
taxes
and
fees
I
can
go
on
and
on
it's
only
nine
pages
long,
but
before
you
would
approve
you
know
the
long
term
goals.
I
would
hope
to
see
more
accurate
information.
O
P
You
can
call
a
Sutton
v.
Were
a
ward
I
want
you
to
address
one
concern
on
SP:
five,
that
you
have
consideration
on
the
deed
in
lieu
of
foreclosure
at
18:06,
Church
Street
before
any
further
work
is
done,
I
want
to
know
they
completed
the
EPA
assessment
of
that
site
with
the
contaminated
soil.
Have
it
done
a
traffic
study?
What
kinds
of
buildings
do
they
plan
to
put
there
to
further
add
to
the
congestion
of
that
particular
neighborhood?
P
Secondly,
I'm
more
important
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
way
that
our
city
now
has
not
addressed
the
needs
of
the
elderly.
People
who
really
need
assistance
and
staying
in
their
homes
and
I
want
to
agree
with
the
lady
there.
Everyone
gets
a
break,
but
us
especially
us
landowners
who
try
to
keep
our
rents
below
market
value
to
slow
down
the
rate
of
gentrification
in
our
community.
P
And
thirdly,
if
that
site
on
Darrell
and
Church
is
going
to
be
considered
for
affordable
housing,
I
think
you
should
do
a
study
to
see
about
the
number
of
affordable
units
that
have
already
compacted
within
a
1,000
feet.
Radius
of
that
particular
sites.
I
think
there
are
nine
Ward's
in
Evanston
I
think
they
should
share
the
responsibility
for
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
Q
Good
evening
mayor
city
manager,
clerk
read
and
all
the
aldermen
good
evening,
my
name
is
Tina
Payton
I
know
this
is
an
affordable
housing
meeting
and
I
han't
am
here
once
again.
This
is
maybe
five
six
years
in
a
row
I'm
asking
for
help
for
landlords
that
provide
affordable
housing.
There's
no
plan
for
us.
You
sit
here
and
say
that
you
want
to
keep
affordable
housing
in
Evanston,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
that's
possible,
if
you
don't
help
the
landlord's
that
are
providing
the
affordable
units.
Q
Also
I
know
alderman
Ruth
Simmons
will
mention
later
about
the
Jackson
Emerson,
where
they're
planning
on
most
of
the
people
have
already
left
from
that
area
and,
as
you
know,
that
area
west
Evanston
is
some
of
our
last
affordable
housing
and
you're
moving
all
the
tenants
out
of
the
area.
So
you
need
to
look
closely
at
where
you're
going
to
put
the
people
say
that
you
get
money
from
these
new
developers,
2.4
million
from
the
building
on
Emerson.
Once
you
get
the
money
where
you
gonna
place
the
people.
Q
A
You
thank
you,
miss
baby.
All
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody
for
speaking
on
a
variety
of
issues.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
on
all
of
those
topics
from
marking
to
housing
that
we'll
cover
tonight.
So
we're
now
going
to
move
into
the
special
orders
of
business.
We
have
several
items
on
the
agenda
tonight.
The
first
one
is
sp1,
a
presentation
by
the
housing
authority
of
Cook
County,
we're
fortunate
to
have
the
executive
director
of
the
housing
authority
of
Cook
County
Richmond
ochio
here.
So
thank
you
for
coming
out.
Mr.
A
R
Good
evening,
mayor
Haggerty,
the
City
Council
members,
city
manager,
Bob
Watson
clerk,
read
I'm
Sarah,
flax,
housing
and
grants,
manager
and
I
have
Richard
Manocchio
here
and
his
team,
and
as
soon
as
we
can
get
the
presentation
up,
we
have
this
new
system
that
somehow
timed
out,
we
will
have
mr.
Pinocchio
come
up
and
give
you
information
on
the
next
stage.
We've
come
before
you
twice
to
talk
about
this
plan
to
develop
another
building
on
the
Perelman
site.
We've
met
with
the
neighborhood,
and
we
were.
R
A
S
R
Tenant
relocation,
assistance
policy
for
displaced,
tenants
staff
seeks
direction
from
counsel
regarding
next
steps
relating
to
the
development
of
such
a
policy.
This
is
something
that
we
are
seeing
being
implemented
to
municipalities,
especially
in
the
coasts
where
there
have
been
high
levels
of
his
displacement
due
to
new
development,
and
also
due
to
really
rapidly
rising
costs
of
rent
costs,
and
there
are
a
whole
range
of
different
things
that
different
communities
have
looked
at,
some
of
which
are
outlined
in
the
memo.
R
The
long
beach
task
force
was
the
most
recent
and
really
quite
complete
and
aggressive
program
offering
tenant
relocation
assistance
when
tenants
are
displaced
at
no
fault
of
their
own,
and
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
are
clearly
taken
out
of
that.
In
other
words,
if
they
have
been
evicted
for
some
problem
with
their
tenancy
or
anything
like
that,
but
if
they
are
being
displaced
proposing
that
landlords
may
display
money
to
move
them
into
new
and
different
units.
R
But
staff
was
asked
to
look
at
this
and
we
just
really
seek
more
direction
on
to
what
extent
one
of
the
other
things
that
not
in
Long
Beach,
but
in
some
of
the
other
communities
that
we
started
looking
at
dealt
with
was
when
somebody
was
displaced
because
of
property
standards
violations
they
weren't
addressing.
So
that
was
another
thing
that
we
wanted
to
bring
up.
Ok,.
A
T
You
so
I
learned
about
this
when
I
was
in
DC
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
with
some
other
City
Council
members,
and
so
I
wanted
to
have
a
discussion.
Obviously
Laurent
Blanc
breach,
as
sarah
said,
is
much
larger
and
can
do
much
more
than
we
can
but
I
and
hearing
from
people
in
my
community
and
the
Ninth
Ward
and
then
other
communities,
particularly
you
know.
We
again
have
the
conversation.
T
Many
people
came
up
talking
about
the
potential
development
in
the
fifth
Ward,
but,
as
people
are
you
know,
building
against
buildings
are
being
bought
by
new
landlords,
and
then
people
are
being
asked
to
move
or
have
to
move,
because
the
rent
is
escalating.
At
this
point
and
to
my
knowledge
there's
nothing
that
the
city
has
in
place
to
really
help
those
people-
and
those
are
the
phone
calls
that
we
probably
all
get
when
people
are
looking
for
a
comparable,
affordable
unit-
that's
not
available
and
they
are
being
moved
for
no
fault
of
their
own.
T
So
I
really
wanted
to
start
the
discussion
and
see
if
this
is
something
we
can
fold
into
our
affordable
housing
plan
because,
as
we
hear,
there's
different
levels
and
different
needs
in
a
portable
housing
and
some
of
it
is
people
already
have
the
housing
and
they're
being
forced
to
move
out
of
it.
So
obviously,
like
I
said,
the
Long
Beach
model
is
one
that
I
understand.
We
can't
attain.
You
know
things
like
the
10%
I
think
for
Long
Beach.
You
get
this
assistance.
T
If
your
rent
goes
up,
10%
10%
might
be
a
little
low
for
us.
I,
don't
know
what
the
magic
number
is
there,
but
I
think
that
there's
probably
one
if
it's
you
know
I,
don't
know
2530
somewhere
around
there.
They
also
have
relocation
for
two
months.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
we
also
entertain,
but
particularly
I'm
thinking
of
developers
or
larger
units
where
we're
not
talking
about
people
like
mr.
Peyton
I
mean
mrs.
Peyton
or
mr.
T
I'm
certain,
but
people
who
have
larger
buildings
that
we're
seeing
people
move
out
particularly
are
very
low-income
residents
or
our
seniors,
or
we
know
we
don't
have
where
there
might
not
be
another
unit
that
they
can
access.
I
know
in
my
wor.
We
have
repo
place,
they
provide
really
great,
affordable
housing,
but
they
have
hardly
any
turnover.
So
even
people,
you
know
my
ward
are
on
waiting
list
for
RIBA
for
a
couple
years
or
they
close
the
waiting
list.
I
really
would
hope
that
we
can
have
a
conversation.
T
I
know
that
we
did
receive
a
letter
from
one
of
the
local
realtor
associations
who
had
concerns
about
this
and
again
I.
Don't
want
to
make
this
something
that
is
a
burden
for
our
smaller
landlords,
but
I
do
think,
that's
something
we
can
consider
and
hopefully
get
to
the
point
of
finding
a
medium
ground,
of
which
we
can
tell
people
that
we're
a
community
that
we
value,
affordable
housing.
A
T
A
U
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I.
I
do
have
some
significant
reservations
about
this,
and
when
we
talk
about
these
different
programs,
the
first
thing
that
I
always
tried.
One
of
the
first
things
that
I
try
to
look
at
and
assess
is
who's.
Gonna
bear
the
cost
of
the
program
and
to
me
that's,
this
is
a
little
bit
similar
to
our
original
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
which
I
felt
with
too
much
of
the
burden.
On
the
other.
You
know,
residents
of
the
particular
building,
so
first
off
we're
gonna.
U
So
I,
just
I
really
really
hesitate
on
this
for
something
like
a
situation
like,
if
someone's
forced
to
move
out
because
of
property
standard
standard
issues.
That
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
to
me.
Maybe
because
that's
something
that
the
landlord
is
responsible
for
and
they're
not
keeping
the
property
up
to
up
to
the
code.
V
V
Thinking
about
how
we
support
the
existing
tenants,
I
asked
if
we
could
have
as
a
public
benefit
a
fun
for
the
residents
to
relocate
in
a
first
right
option
for
rental,
for
the
new
units
and
I.
Think
I
was
the
feedback.
Was
there
may
be
some
laws
against
it
or
fair
housing,
laws
or
I'm,
not
sure?
But
I
would
like
a
definite
answer
on.
If
that
is
an
option,
because
it
seems
to
be
a
good
way
to
get
the
developer
to
support
the
existing
tenants.
W
X
X
X
We
actually
finally
came
to
an
agreement
with
the
developer
on
that,
but
it
would
that
was
touch
and
go
for
a
while.
The
only
thing
that
ended
up
protecting
us
in
that
building,
so
we
got
him
to
stop
changing
into
four
units
and
went
back
to
three
units
was
the
three
unrelated
rule,
and
so
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
the
three
unrelated
rule
because
it
and
it
it
doesn't
necessarily
make.
X
Follow
and
make
real
good
sense,
but
when
you
think
about
it
and
as
it
is
applied
in
practicality,
that
really
does
help
keep
these
things
affordable.
In
my
ward,
where
a1
went
where
a
bid
basically
is
extremely
valuable.
So
so
there
are
different
situations,
I
think
for
all
of
us
and
I
absolutely
agree
that
we
need
to
have
further
discussion
on
this
a
lot.
X
Y
I
took
a
look
at
the
Austin
model,
which
has
been
in
place
now
for
I
guess
about
a
year,
and
it
may
excuse
me
address
the
concerns
that
alderman
Ruth
Simmons
mentioned,
because
their
model
basically
puts
most
of
the
burden
of
helping
the
displaced
tenants
on
the
developer.
So
if
a
developer
comes
in
and
buys
a
property
and
displaces
residents
in
construct
something
big
and
grand,
the
developer
has
to
pay
into
a
fund
that
then
helps
with
relocation
assistance.
So
that
might
be
a
model
that
will
be
useful.
T
Just
to
recap,
so
so
I
had
this
conversation
with
alderman
Wilson
earlier
and
I
I
mean
I.
Disagree
that
it's
gonna
put
the
burden
necessarily
on
the
other
tenants
I
mean
part
of
it
is
we
do
know
that
property
taxes
are
potentially
gonna,
go
up
with
the
Assessor,
and
we
all
heard
the
speech
about
the
commercial
and
the
large
property
owners.
However,
we
also
know
that,
unfortunately,
we
have
people
who
kind
of
price
gouge
right,
and
so,
when
I'm,
when
I
was
a
tenant,
my
rent
would
go
up.
T
You
know,
the
lack
of
a
bail
availability
of
housing
I
feel
a
deep
responsibility
to
do
various
things
right.
We
have
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
that
is
developing
some
units,
but
clearly
not
enough
units.
We
hear
from
different
people
in
different
price
points,
and
this
is
just
one
tool
that
I'm
suggesting
that
we
have
further
discussion
about,
that
we
can
have
as
an
option,
particularly
as
we
see
many
more
developments
coming.
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
that
potentially
is
going
to
displace,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
various
things.
T
T
T
It's
very
important
that
we
look
at
this
and
other
models,
I'm
happy
to
work
with
staff
and
look
through
this
myself
and
come
up
with
something
that
we
can
propose
it
might
fit,
and
even
if
it's
only
three
or
four
you
know,
people
are
families
a
year
that
we
can
help
with
this
I
think
it's
worth
it
for
us
to
do
it
so
I
would
hope
that
we
can
continue
this
conversation
and
bring
back
something
else.
It
might
be
a
better
fit
for
our
city,
with
some
more
tangibles
that
we
can
discuss.
Okay,.
U
A
Okay,
great
great,
thank
you
alright!
So
seeing
no
more
lights
on
on
sp3
in
terms
of
the
discussion,
it
seems
that
the
general
feeling
is
would
like
to
get
some
more
information,
see
how
some
of
these
programs,
if
they're
brand
new,
like
Long,
Beach,
sort
of
light
play
out
and
and
have
the
city
staff
you
know
at
the
appropriate
time,
come
back
and
and
give
us
an
update
on
that.
Is
that
and
then,
secondly,
it
seems
like
we
would
like
to
have
the
city
staff
look
into.
A
You
know
projects
or
programs
like
the
Boston
one
where,
if
there
is,
you
know
a
situation
where
people
are
being
relocated
for
development,
that
we
understand
better,
the
programs
that
exist
there.
So
we
could
explore
that
okay,
all
right
now,
okay,
so
great
we're
gonna
move
back
now
to
sp1
Sarah
I!
Think
the
the
presentation
is
up
there.
This
is
the
presentation
by
the
housing
authority
of
Cook,
County
and
Richmond.
Okay,.
Z
My
name
is
Richmond
Akio
I'm,
the
director
of
Cook
County
Housing
Authority,
is
very
nice
for
me
to
be
back
here
today.
You've
seen
me
a
couple
times
up
here.
A
little
bit
here
today
is
I.
Think
we're
gonna
I
really
feel
like
the
rubber
is
hitting
the
road.
Now
with
this,
with
this
at
this
building,
first
before
I'm
gonna
introduce
my
team
and
then
talk
about
what's
coming.
Z
Next,
we
have
a
short
PowerPoint,
but
before
I
do
that
I
there
I
do
want
to
commend
the
city
and
your
staff
I
have
really
have
to
say
that
without
their
help
and
guidance
and
leadership
on
this
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
at
the
point
we
are
today.
They
really
have
a
strong
concern
for
affordable
housing,
so
appreciate
Sara
Paul
as
well.
Z
This
has
really
been
a
collaboration,
so
we
appreciate
that
mayor.
My
team
today
is
we're
very
fortunate
to
of
your
constituents
on
with
us
today.
Two
of
our
board
members,
Pali
Hill,
Saul
klebanow-
are
with
us
today.
Thanks
for
coming,
we
also
have
our
chief
of
staff
Felicia
Shaw,
our
assistant
director
for
development,
Rashad
gray.
We
have
our
chief
financial
officer,
Carl
Becker,
and
we
have
our
team
members.
Z
Z
Love
it
here
so
I'm
just
going
to
introduce
reintroduce
this
a
little
too
professional
memories.
We
have
invested
about
thirty-five
million
dollars
so
far
in
the
properties
that
we
own
in
Evanston,
2300,
noise,
court
and
1900
Sherman
we're
also
this
coming
year,
going
to
rehabilitate
all
of
the
scattered
sites
we
own
in
Evanston,
which
I
know
is
very
important
to
the
community.
It's
very
important
to
us.
Z
We,
we
pride
ourselves
on
being
good
neighbors,
so
we're
going
to
make
a
pretty
large
capital
investment
of
over
two
million
dollars
into
these
property,
so
that
again,
I
think
it
demonstrates
our
commitment
to
this
to
the
to
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
project
we're
going
to
see
today
again
is
the
proposal
is
to
build
it
on
the
property
we
own
to
the
south
of
the
building
we
rehabbed
it
would
be
theirs.
Z
So
that's
one
thing:
I
want
everybody
to
keep
in
mind
this.
The
second
thing
we're
gonna,
be
asking
you
for
really
is
height.
We
need
more
units
to
help
the
cash
flow,
to
create
more
of
this
missing
middle
and
and
really
to
make
the
project
financially
feasible.
That's
so
that
we're
going
to
have
that
ask
and
to
the
extent
that
there's
funding
from
the
affordable
housing
fund,
we
know
that's
fairly
limited
but
to
the
extent
that
there's
funding
available
from
the
affordable
housing
fund.
We
would
also
like
to
look
into
that
option.
Z
So
without
further
ado,
I'd
like
to
get
to
the
presentation.
First,
we're
gonna
have
dance
floor,
come
up
and
just
give
you
a
conceptual
idea
of
what
we're
talking
about
before
I
stop.
This
is
conceptual
we're
here
today,
because
we
want
to
be
collaborative
with
the
community
with
the
City
Council
with
the
mayor,
because
I
really
think
this
is
a
team
effort
and
I.
Think
if
we
work
together,
we
can
get
it
built.
AA
AA
AA
So
here
what
you'll
first
see
on
this
is
the
site
here
and
just
to
orient
to
everyone
to
what
we'll
be
looking
at
and
how
the
view
is
oriented.
This
is
Sherman
Avenue
here
and
then
this
is
Emerson
running
east-west.
That
way,
you'll
you'll
recognize
not
only
Perlman
the
existing
Perlman
Avenue
apartments
or
excuse
me
the
Perlman
apartments
and
then,
as
well
as
the
new
building
being
built
currently
under
construction
at
811
Emerson.
AA
So
what
you'll
see
here
in
this
first
slide
is
this
is
the
first
study
something
that
you're
probably
familiar
with
from
the
last
time
we
were
here.
This
is
an
ad
unit
version
at
this
current
massing.
It
lays
out
to
match
the
existing
height
of
Perlman
and
I'll
just
build
up
through
these
slides
and
I'll
help,
hopefully
explain
what
you're
looking
at
now
is
the
parking
to
get
just
the
minimum
sort
of
level
of
parking
requirement.
So
you
can
see
that
I
apologize.
AA
You
can
see
that
here
in
this
kind
of
purple
area
that
would
be
inside
the
building,
but
what
it
does
is
it
kind
of
maxes
out
the
available
buildable
area
on
the
site
and
takes
up
a
lot
of
space?
Then
you
will
see
we're
layering
in
the
residential
floors.
What
that
would
get
us
is
eight
floors
of
residential
units
and
then
ultimately
kind
of
all
that
put
together
with
a
sort
of
a
garden,
roof
garden
amenity
level
at
the
top.
AA
AA
On
top
of
that,
that's
where
we're
get
that
additional
height,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
the
amenity
level
on
the
top
and
then
the
whole
picture
of
everything
together.
So
we're
where
we've
ended
now
is
an
option
for
a
hundred
and
twenty
units,
and
what
this
does
is
we've
thought
we're
finding
ways
to
put
the
parking
underground,
thus
maximizing
the
return
for
the
number
of
residential
units
open.
That's
120
you'll
see
there
now
the
amenity
level
is
large
and
complete
at
the
ground
level
as
well
as
providing
vast.
AA
J
F
Sorry,
how
does
this
advance
theory
there?
We
go?
Okay.
So
what
are
you
talking
about
the
program
we
found
meant
that
we've
done
so,
as
Dan
said,
we
have
to
have
kind
of
a
holistic
approach
to
this,
where
the
program
works
with
the
physical
design
and
the
program
pencils
out,
so
that
we
can
find
a
lender.
Who
will
lend
us
lend
Housing
Authority
of
the
money
to
build
this,
and
in
doing
this
we
looked
at
four
key
considerations.
F
These
are
kind
of
flexible
I
mean
they
they're
variables.
They
work
with
one
another.
So
these
four
variables
are
the
supply
of
affordable
housing,
the
parking
for
the
new
residents,
as
well
as
keeping
parking
for
existing
residents,
providing
errors
and
setbacks
that
are
consistent
with
the
area
and
designing
a
building,
that's
in
scale
with
the
area
in
terms
of
height.
So
obviously,
if
one
of
these
is
constrained,
it
affects
you
know
the
other.
F
The
other
considerations
so
hex
number
one
priority
is
increasing
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
and
haxe
approach
to
this
has
always
been
based
on
a
mix
of
incomes.
From
the
very
beginning,
we've
been
talking
about
a
mix
of
incomes
and
we've.
You
know
through
all
of
this,
we
put
more
flesh
on
the
bones
and
we
we're
closer
to
a
real
project.
F
We
call
these
the
low
mod
residents,
people
who
are
between
80
and
100
percent
of
area
median
income,
and
these
would
be
the
missing
middle
of
the
people
for
which
there
is
no
affordable
housing
subsidy
for
but
who
can't
afford
market
rate
rents
in
this
area,
and
that
has
been
the
priority
of
staff
as
it
they've
expressed
it
to
us
and
and
heck
is
responsive
to
that.
The
third
group
would
be
people
who
are
at
120
percent
or
above
every
median
income,
and
those
are
the
people
who
can
pay
full
market
rates.
F
So
the
sense
there
is
no
financing
to
help
the
missing
middle.
We
need
market
rate
units
to
underwrite
the
cost
of
the
missing
middle
units,
so
the
more
market
rate
units
we
we
have,
the
more
we
can
provide
for
the
missing
middle
units,
and
so
we've
got
a
handle
on
a
kind
of
the
the
rents
for
these
three
groups,
and
these
are
expressed
as
average
rents
for
one
better.
The
per
brother.
F
The
predominant
type
of
unit
will
be
one
better,
only
a
few
two
bedrooms,
but
for
the
purposes
of
expressing
this,
we've
really
focused
on
the
one-bedroom
units,
so
the
full
market
rate
units
will
average.
We
think
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
for
rent
the
average
for
the
missing
middle
units
will
be
1666
and
there
will
be
a
range
of
rents
within
each
of
these
categories
and
the
low
mod
units
will
be
a
rent
of
1450.
F
That's
the
rent
that
the
housing
authority
will
achieve,
but
through
the
use
of
their
section
as
voters,
the
people
who
occupy
those
units
will
only
be
paying
a
third
of
that
rent.
Okay,
so
they'll
be
paying
about
$500
a
month.
Heck
will
be
receiving
1450
a
month
because
they
can
use
their
their.
The
vouchers
for
these
units
bill.
F
Okay,
so
factors
influencing
the
program
and
by
the
programming,
the
the
the
building
program
that
we
have
have
outlined
that
Dan
has
outlined,
so
the
economies
of
scale
is
a
factor
in
this,
and
if
you
only
build
a
small
number
of
units,
your
cost
per
unit
is
going
to
be
higher.
So
if
we
were
to
build
80
units,
our
cost
per
unit
would
be
higher.
Our
overall
cost
in
relative
in
relation
to
the
income
that
we're
getting
from
the
units
would
be
higher
and
we
could
frankly
provide
fewer,
affordable
units
structure.
F
We
were
initially
thinking
about
above-ground
structure,
parking
which
is
less
expensive
than
below
ground,
but
we
would
then
run
into
a
problem
with
conflict
of
yards
or
we
have
such
a
small
footprint
in
the
building
for
the
parking
that
would
be
so
expensive
on
a
per
unit
basis.
It
doesn't
work
out,
so
we
think
really.
The
the
only
alternative
we
have
is
to
go
below
ground.
F
That
will
give
us
above
ground
yards
that
I
think
the
community
wants
and
that
we
want-
and
we
just
have
to
bite
the
bullet
on
the
cost,
but
additional
height
is
needed
to
make
kind
of
all
of
these
things
work
so
that
we
can
have
enough
units
to
spread
the
cost.
We
have
enough
units
to
pay
for
the
below
ground
parking.
F
So
that's
why
we
are
at
this
program
here
which
would
be
120
total
units
with
a
composition
of
the
different
rental
rates
for
the
for
the
different
three
groups:
30%
market
rate
50%
for
the
missing
middle,
which
is
the
priority
as
we
understand
it
and
20%
for
the
low
mod
units.
So
this
is
a
true
mixed
income
building
and
frankly,
nobody
is
really
doing
it
at
this
level.
Sometimes
you
get
20%
low
mod
units
within
another
wise
market
rate.
Building
our
firm
works,
both
housing
authorities
across
the
country.
F
You
know
planning
for
affordable
housing
in
the
neighborhoods
that
the
housing
is
in
and
getting
a
true
mixed
income
building
is
actually
very
difficult
and
so
hack
is
kind
of
on
the
cutting
edge
of
this.
With
this
project,
we
have
36
underground
parking
spaces
that
would
be,
in
addition
to
some
preserved
above-ground
spaces
that
would
be
used
to
augment
the
underground
spaces.
So
that
would
be
one
space
for
each
of
the
marquetry
units.
We
have
talked
with
staff
and
believe
that
we
can
achieve
some
off-site
parking
for
people
who
need
it.
F
That
would
be
parking
spaces
in
in
places
not
on
the
site
but
are
close
by.
We
think
that's
essential
and
we
think
it's
achievable
staff
thinks
that's
achievable.
This
would
result
in
a
building.
That's
15
stories
high,
which
is
higher
than
the
existing
purim
own
building,
but
we
think
that,
given
all
of
the
variables
and
and
the
priorities
for
affordable
housing,
having
a
couple
more
stories
or
three
more
stories
of
of
height
is
a
a
reasonable
thing
to
do,
and
we
having
some
nice
setbacks
along
Sherman
and
Emerson.
F
The
setback
along
Emerson
will
be
angled
so
that
it
increases
as
you
get
close
to
the
corner
of
Sherman,
which
is
a
nice
thing
for
that
corner.
We
think
overall
is
a
very
good
design
and
will
be
very
attractive
and
that's
another
thing
that
the
Housing
Authority
wanted
to
do
was
to
create
a
first-class,
very
attractive
building.
So
when
you
look
at
at
the
program,
I
mean
heck
is
taking
some
risk.
F
Obviously,
when
you
go
into
a
project
this
and
you're,
looking
for
conventional
financing,
you
have
to
have
a
project
that
produces
enough
cash
flow,
so
that
the
lender
is
certain
that
you
can
pay
the
the
mortgage
on
the
project.
So
it
can't
be
just
a
break-even
project.
It
has
to
produce
a
surplus.
F
So
we
think
it's
a
very
preliminary
stage
here,
but
we
think
right
now
that
our
debt
service
and
our
operations
will
result
in
a
cost
per
unit
of
about
nineteen
six.
That
is
definitely
you're
going
to
change
when
we
get
closer
into
exactly
what
we're
building
on
how
much
it's
going
to
cost.
But
right
now,
that's
what
we're
thinking
it's
going
to
be.
We
think
the
market
rate
units
will
generate
on
average
24,000
per
unit
in
annual
revenue.
F
The
missing
middle
will
be
about
twenty
thousand,
which
is
very,
very
close
to
break-even,
which
is
not
good
enough
to
get
financing
for
the
project.
So
we
need
the
market
rate
units
to
provide
more
than
enough
cash
flow
to
underwrite
the
the
market.
The
missing
middle
units,
the
low
mod
units
at
20%,
will
generate
seventeen
four
but,
as
we
said
of
the
housing
authority,
can
fill
that
much
of
that
gap,
not
her
percent
of
the
gap,
but
much
of
the
gap
with
the
project-based
vouchers.
F
So
that's
kind
of
how
we
think
this
project
can
pencil
out
and
be
financially
feasible,
and
we
think
that
the
design
that
we
have
is
preliminary
is
schematic,
but
we
think
we
can
make
it
to
be
a
very
nice
addition.
Frankly,
perhaps
even
a
very
striking
example
of
new
development.
Evanston
that
happens
to
be
affordable.
F
A
Z
So
this
would
be
the
our
first
one.
I
mean
I
want
to
use
this
as
a
model,
because
I
want
to
want
to
develop
this
throughout
the
other
areas
that
we
properties
we
own
in
the
in
the
northern
suburbs.
But
you
know
we're
confident:
we've
we've
just
were
completing
200
million
dollars
worth
of
construction
work,
so
we
know
how
you
know.
We
know
how
to
build
stuff.
Z
You
know
it
is
I
really
believe
in
this
site.
So,
as
bill
mentioned,
you
know
we
are
taking
a
bit
of
a
risk,
but
I
think
this.
This
site
is
probably
the
most
attractive
we
own
in
the
entire
county
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
what
what
Evanston
brings
to
the
table
too
is
attractive
and
that
so
I'm
very
confident
that
we
can
attract
the
those
market
rate.
Rents
is.
A
R
Well,
one
of
the
important
things
about
and
the
very
different
things
about
this
building
is
that
middle-level
right
now,
everything's
being
built
at
the
high
end
as
we
know,
or
the
deeply
subsidized
very
low
end,
and
one
of
the
things
we
hear
is
we
have
many
seniors
who
don't
want
to
move
out
of
their
houses,
aren't
finding
what
they
can.
What
they're
looking
for
in
Evanston
right
now,
but
are
interested
in
moving
into
senior
housing
and
remember
this
building,
as
rich
said,
is
55
plus.
R
So
it's
not
just
the
you
know
this
isn't
these
are
independent
living
units
and
with
an
appealing
location
immediately
north
of
our
downtown
in
a
beautiful
area.
I
think
we're
going
to
get
people
who
are
going
to
go.
Oh
hey
I've
found
a
place
that
I
want
to
move
to
who
don't
qualify
as
rich
said
for
any
of
the
subsidized
housing.
That's
out
there
there
that
middle
income
and
that's
something
that
we
know
nationwide
is
strong.
R
People
are
struggling
everywhere
to
find
that
middle
income
housing
and
if
we
can
open
up
our
some
of
our
single-family
homes,
then
we'll
be
able
to
potentially
have
more
space
for
younger
families
moving
in
things
like
that,
which
we
also
know
we're
short
on
right
now,
so
it's
really
trying
to
open
a
reign
into
a
range
of
housing
that
simply
doesn't
exist
right
now.
All.
A
Z
Z
X
I
X
That
the
financial
feasibility,
that
this
is
really
wonderful
to
have
I
mean
you
know
we're
gonna-
have
to
justify
to
to
residents
who
support
affordable
housing,
but
who
are
also
concerned
about
the
height
of
the
building.
We're
going
to
have
to
justify
why
this
has
to
be
the
way
it
is,
and
so
this
is
actually
really
helpful
and
really
simple.
So
thank
you
for
this
and
I
hope
that
we
will.
X
C
Z
X
C
Think,
thank
you.
Mister
Marion,
thank
you.
Miss
Manocchio
and
your
team
for
coming
out.
I'm
excited
about
this
I
think
it's
a
great
model.
We
have
a
couple
of
senior
projects
going
up
in
the
second
Ward,
so
you
know
based
on
what
they're
charging
for
there
for
your
income
I
think
this
is
appropriately
priced
for
what
you're
offering
a
department
building
that
is
just
walking
distance
from
the
lake
I
mean
you
would
have
to
be
crazy
to
be
concerned
about
that
rent
just
based
on,
what's
being
offered
around
town.
C
C
Which
is
good
and
then
the
other
thing
is
any
amenities
in
terms
of
staffing.
That
is
all
ask
my
boss,
Oh
amenities
for
staffing
memory,
floor
memory
care
are
those
services
common
dining.
Is
everyone
eating
in
the
same
place
and
then
yeah?
That's
it
I'm,
just
curious
to
know
what
type
of
services
you're
going
to
know:
Thank
You
alderman,
so.
Z
We
are
actually
going
through
the
amenities
package
as
we
speak.
Okay,
so
your
input
is
valuable
to
us.
We're
looking
at
things
like
you
mentioned,
also
some
other
amenities
like
what
happens
on
the
roof.
We
want
to
make
that
an
attractive
space,
especially
for
for
those
who
are
the
beauty
of
the
the
way
these
guys
have
does.
That
is
a
lot
of
these
units
have
a
Lakeview
which
we're
very
excited
about.
C
T
Z
T
And
will
you
have
some
twos
in
each
level,
okay
and
then
in
terms
of
well
all
of
it,
but
particularly
the
low
to
mod
I
know
not
too
long
ago.
The
wait
list
opened
up
for
the
Evanston
apartments
with
the
voucher.
Is
there
any
kind
of
Evanston?
You
know
current
Evanston
resident
priority
for
those
for
that,
for
this
building
or
for
the
waitlist
right.
Z
H
Z
Know
folks
will
have
to
come
to
the
building.
You
can
do
it
online
too,
but
we'll
have
it
we'll
have
an
open
house
at
the
building,
so
people
can
come
we'll.
Let
the
city
know
in
advance
of
when
the
list
is
going
to
be
open
that
we
we
expect
to
get.
You
know
mostly
Evan
stone,
Ian's
or
folks
who
live
around
Evanston
to
apply
for
those
okay.
T
And
then
I
just
want
to
also
thank
you
for
the
improvements
that
you're
gonna
be
making
to
the
scattered
housing
sites
around
Evanston.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
believe
that
you've
also
made
a
brief
commitment
or
I
will
say
a
soft
commitment
to
helping
us,
as
we
developed
over
on
potentially
get
to
develop
over
in
the
Third
Ward
on
Chicago
Avenue,
with
those
scattered
sites
and
helping
us
to
get
some
more
affordable
housing.
We're.
A
Well,
rich
I
think
I
speak
on
behalf
of
everybody
up
here.
Almost
everybody
up
here
that
we
feel
very,
very
honored
that
the
Housing
Authority
of
Cook
County
is
looking
really
really
seriously
at
our
community.
I
know.
Lots
of
the
other
mayor's
around
here
would
die
for
the
opportunity
to
have
the
kind
of
investment
that
you're
looking
to
put
into
our
community.
So
we
appreciate
very,
very
much
what
you're
doing
to
help
with
affordability,
Evanson.
So
thank.
A
A
And
continue
to
coordinator
I
presume,
obviously
with
alderman
Fisk,
whose
wards
it
warded
is
in,
so
we
can
continue
to
have
those
neighbor
conversations
great.
Thank
you
all
right,
Sarah
stay
up
there
I
guess
we're
going
to
go
to
s
P
2,
which
is
the
affordable
housing
work
plan.
Progress
to
date.
Is
there
a
motion
to
move
this
so.
R
R
We
have
a
acquisition
of
1805
Church
Street
through
a
deed-in-lieu
that
we
were
are
asking
for
your
approval
and
we're
asking
for
authority
to
negotiate
the
sale
of
1824
Emerson
to
be
the
next
e
th
e
th
s
geometry
and
construction
housing
site
other
things.
We've
been
working
on
that
you
hear
about
at
various
times,
and
we
want
to
update
you
on
the
rental
registration
of
Coach
houses,
/a
to
use
our
amnesty
period
opened
on
March
1st
and
it
runs
through
the
31st
of
May.
We've
attempted
to
get
out
to
lots
of
people.
R
We
were
on
the
we
had
a
message
in
the
March
billing
water
building.
We
have
used
the
Eno's
we've
used,
the
tenant.
Excuse
me,
the
rental
registration
list,
you'll
get
to
property
owners
and
various
other
things
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
We've
used
city
social
media
to
let
them
know
about
this
amnesty
period,
because
it
is
not
only
effects
the
coach
houses
that
people
may
want
to
rent
to
non-family
members.
R
It
also
affects
some
units
that
are
probably
being
rented
up
that
have
never
been
registered,
which
should
be,
and
that
can
include
condos
and
could
include
single-family
homes
and
things
like
that.
We
actually
even
had
a
couple
more
units
that
have
registered
since
the
memo
was
put
together.
So
as
of
right
now,
we've
actually
gotten
only
480
use
that
have
registered
to
rent
to
non-family
members.
R
Now
we
don't
know
that
that
means
that
those
who
there
are
not
that
many
out
there,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
from
talking
to
our
Adu
experts
is
in
many
cases.
Many
ad
use
are
not
rented
out
to
non-family
members,
so
that
may
be
just
what's
happening.
We
may
see
more,
we're
not
sure,
we've
gotten
seven
other
rentals
that
have
registered
and
it's
a
whole
range
of
things.
It's
things
like
condos
single-family
homes,
some
garden
apartments.
One
interesting
interesting
thing
was
a
condominium
association
that
owns
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
R
R
Building
where
one
bill
you
know,
normally
a
one-bedroom
based
on
the
size
of
the
lot
would
be
appropriate,
but
not
a
two-bedroom
and
we're
asking
for
your
consideration
whether
to
modify
the
bonus
schedule
in
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
to
say
if
we
have
a
building
that
comes
to
us
for
another.
These
are
internal
ad
use
or
internal
dwelling
units.
They're
not
that
we
right
now
take
through
Z,
ba
and
z.
Ba
has
been
saying:
okay,
our
job
is
to
make
sure
that
things
are
necessary
and
that
they're
not
getting
undue
in
Richmond
through
their
additional.
R
What
they're
getting
variances
for
has
been
recommending
that
they
get
their
additional
unit
if
they
keep
it
at
an
affordable
level
and
that
affordable
level
we've
been
using
is
eighty
percent
of
the
area
median
for
a
ten-year
period,
because
this
is
not
most
of
time.
These
are
very
small
buildings.
We
don't
want
to
overburden
them,
but
at
the
same
time
it
does
give
us
some
affordable
units.
Our
zoning,
Planning
and
Zoning
staff
believes
that
we
can
make
a.
We
could
make
a
text
amendment
to
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
bonuses.
R
That
would
allow
us
to
do
this
officially.
If
we
were
able
to
do
that
administratively,
it
would
also
take
a
great
deal
of
burden
off
of
the
the
CBA
and
staff
and
and
also
make
the
it
less
more
certain
for
people
who
would
be
coming
to
us
for
this
type
of
variance,
I
apologize,
I'm
getting
over
a
cold,
so
I'm
having
trouble
talking
very
clearly
and
what
this
does
is.
R
It
really
gets
us
a
small
scale,
additional
inclusionary
inclusionary,
affordable
units,
but
we're
being
careful
to
not
overburden
the
a
property
owners
and
that's
why
we're
saying
keeping
it
at
the
80%
of
area
median.
That's
something
that
we'd,
like
your
feedback
on
to
know
whether
you
think
this
is
something
we
should
perceive
it.
R
A
R
We
again
know
that
there
is
a
lack
of
modest
homes
that
are
affordable
to
starter
homes
or
perhaps
as
retirement
homes,
but
our
smaller
size
and
could
be
built
on
smaller
Lots,
except
the
rezoning
doesn't
allow
it
right
now
and
we
have,
in
our
code,
I
think
all
the
unique
use-
and
we
are
asking
your
consideration
to.
Let
us
do
a
unique
use
to
try
this
small
amount
of
housing,
partly
as
a
test.
You
know
not
being
a
zoning
person,
I
say
well.
R
Why
can't
we
just
test
it
and
say
we're
not
going
to
follow
zoning.
Well,
that
does
just
doesn't
go
over
well
at
all,
but
this
would
give
us
an
ability
to
try
this
idea
and
we
would
like
to
actually
experiment
with
the
2122
Jarrow
site,
which
is
we've
discussed
this
with
alderman
druh
Simmons.
It's
in
her
ward,
it
is,
was
acquired
through
our
NSP
program,
with
a
really
really
dilapidated
house
on
it.
That
was
torn
down.
This
is
a
really
neat
site
because
two
sides
of
it
border,
tweaks,
Park.
R
So
it's
it
really
is
a
site
where
we
think
we
could
perhaps
take
some
liberties
with
traditional
ways.
Things
are
set
and
get
some
experiments
on
what
kind
of
housing
we
could
develop.
So
those
are
our
two
text,
amendments
considerations
for
you
other
things.
This
is
just
updates.
Well,
we
have
our
first
project.
That's
come
in
under
the
new
iho,
and
this
again
is
a
northerner,
Simmons,
Ward
and
I'm
just
happy
to
report
that
it's
a
15
unit
development
and
they
are
actually
saying
sure
we're
gonna
do
our
two
units
on
site
that
are
affordable.
R
So
to
me,
that's
a
really
good,
first
response.
In
addition,
we
still
have
two
planned
developments
that
are
just
still
going
through
the
process.
Actually,
Evanston
Commons
was
approved,
these
are
on
the
prior
iho,
but
that
will
be
they
will
be
paying
their
fee
in
lieu
and
another
development.
That's
under
consideration.
The
legacy
wood
has
also
said
that
they
would
like
to
pay
the
fee
in
lieu
rather
than
have
on-site
unit
sets
just
an
update
on
that.
R
Have
some
home
ownership,
geometry
and
construction
is
getting
ready
to
move
the
house,
that's
currently
under
construction
to
1729
dodge
we're
gonna
meet
later
this
week
and
get
all
of
that
underway,
and
we'll
certainly
give
you
all
plenty
of
warning
when
that
will
happen.
Actually
this
is
not
a
full
update.
A
lot
more
work
on
this
was
talked
about
at
the
excuse
me
at
the
Economic
Development
Commission
committee
last
week,
but
staff
is
working
on
a
home
ownership
and
financial
literacy
resources.
R
New,
affordable
rental,
we
have
the
application
for
low-income
housing
tax
credits
by
CJE
evergreen,
and
we
expect
to
hear
from
Ida
on
that
in
the
month
of
May,
that's
very
exciting.
If
we
get
the
how
the
funding
that
has
been
requested
for
that,
that
will
generate
60,
affordable
units
down
on
Howard
Street
for
seniors
community
partners
for
affordable
housing
has
been
busy
managing
the
wait
list
and
working
on
the
waitlist
and
I
just
wanted.
To
give
you
a
perspective
on
how
many
people
are
on
the
waitlist
and
the
activity.
R
There
are
actually
264
households
on
the
waitlist
right
now
and
they're
going
through
their
annual
update.
So
once
a
year,
everybody
on
the
waitlist
gets
a
mailing
and
an
emailing
if
have
an
email
to,
and
they
are
asked
to
update
their
information.
This
is
one
of
the
ways
you
keep
your
list
current.
R
At
the
same
time,
community
partners
for
affordable
housing
has
been
having
meetings
at
the
library
and
other
places
to
make
people
aware
of
the
waiting
list
we'll
ramp
that
up,
especially
after
talking
more
with
Trammell,
Crowe
and
lb
on
about
their
timing,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
our
wait
list
in
really
good
shape
and
lots
of
people
on
it
so
that
we
can
get
those
units
filled.
Sarah.
C
R
They're,
an
independent
student,
we
have
very
careful
things
about
whether
students
are
independent
students
and
independent
households,
or
whether
students
are
actually
dependents,
who
are
supported
by
their
parents,
and
so
that's
something
we're
very.
We
follow
the
HUD
part
5
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
students
just
taking
up
the
affordable
units,
but
there
can
be
households
that
are
independent
students,
grad
students
and
things
like
that.
R
That
could
be
eligible,
but
the
what
we'll
do
is
before
each
development
with
each
development,
where
we
start
having
a
series
of
meetings
with
them
and
find
out
what
their
timing
is
and
what
their
process
is
to
coordinate
the
process,
because
both
Trammell
Crowe
and
the
L
Beyond
will
be
taking
people
off
our
waitlist
and
people
who
are
residents
of
Evanston
currently
or
are
working
in
Evanston
have
priority.
Okay,.
R
And
the
recertifications
is
part
of
the
process
to
make
sure
that
the
people
who
are
living
in
the
affordable
housing
are
still
appropriate,
and
you
know
in
most
cases
we
expect
people
will
hopefully
live
there
several
years
and
the
way
we've
structured
the
period
of
time
that
they
can.
Anyone
who,
when
they
move
in
at
the
income
level,
that's
required
they
can.
Their
income
can
go
up
to
a
hundred
percent
of
area.
R
R
Landlord
we
have
a
rehabilitation,
Assistance
Program.
This
one
was
approved
last
year
by
Council.
We've
had
a
little
bit
of
difficulty,
getting
it
off
the
ground,
so
we
are
asking.
If
we
can
just
reduce
the
scale,
it
was
originally
to
be
$200,000
tests,
so
we're
looking
at
maybe
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
and
three
projects.
One
of
the
challenges
is,
we
were
to
split
the
payments,
as
the
work
is
being
done
and
I
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
that
the
work
is
done
before
we
pay
anybody
out.
R
We
can
have
one
of
our
building.
Inspectors
come
and
look
at
the
work
against
the
partial
lien
waiver,
just
if
we
did
during
the
NSP.
The
challenge
is
in
most
cases
where
you
have
multiple
sources.
You
use
an
escrow
account,
because
that's
the
only
way
you
can
really
be
assured
that
when
the
bills
come
due,
that
all
parties
who
are
going
to
be
paying
actually
have
the
money
and
it's
there
and
it's
put
in-
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that
on
these
small
scale
projects.
So
we're
basically
saying
we'll
do
a
test.
R
V
You
I'm
so
reducing
it
to
the
150
that
would
be
for
what
purpose
instead
of
the
200
I
mean
I
understand.
There
are
some
barriers,
but
this
is
exactly
the
type
of
support
that
we
should
be
providing
most
of
our
affordable.
Housing
is
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
and
this
week's
to
some
of
the
comments
from
the
residents
today
in
supporting
the
moderate
income
and
independent
landlord
that
is
helping
us
provide
affordable
housing.
So
have
we
worked
at
this
hard
enough
before
we
decide
to
reduce
that
budget?
I.
R
Actually,
don't
know
that
the
budget
itself
is
the
biggest
thing
we
need
to
test.
One
of
the
other
things
that
I've
been
hearing
in
discussions
with
some
of
the
local
landlords
is,
you
know
if
I
had
50%
of
the
money?
I
would
already
be
doing
my
project
in
stages
and
another
is
some
concern
with
restrictions
being
at
60%
of
area
median.
So
really
I
think
the
thing
we
need
to
do
is
get
it
in
market
present,
both
this
and
the
CDBG
housing
rehab
to
see
give
people
the
option.
V
R
I
mean
the
CDBG
housing
rehab
program
still
exists,
and
that
is
a
in
most
cases.
It's
a
deferred
loan.
They
don't
have
to
pay
it
off
until
the
property
is
transferred
or
something
like
that
and
in
fact
the
CDBG
housing
rehab
program
has
less
restrictive
rents
as
well
and
so
I
think
we
really
just
need
to
present
both
and
see
how
people
respond
and
be
able
then
come
back
and
say
if
there
need
to
be
additional
modifications,
yeah.
V
V
It's
a
burden
for
them
to
help
supply
the
affordable
housing.
So
I
understand
that
the
loan
is
generous,
but
it
is
a
lien
against
the
property
and
these
property
owners
are
concerned
about
what
that
means.
I
mean
I,
understand
that
it
it
doesn't
have
to
be
reconciled
until
titles
transfer,
but
still
the
homeowners
are
concerned
about
having
that
lien.
So
I
don't
know
where
we're
adding
this
and
how
we
can
discuss
this
further.
But
it's
very
important
that
we
come
up
with
options
for
the
landlords.
The
independent
landlords,
specifically
in.
S
Albany
Simmons
members
of
the
council,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
for
the
council
then
to
direct
us
is:
is
it
appropriate
that
this
is
just
a
grant
period?
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
trying
to
be
more
consistent
with
other
programs
so
that
it's
either
a
forgivable
loan
or
in
this
instance
that
we
can
leverage
the
dollars
so
there's
more
improvements
made,
but
I
think
that's
the
fundamental
question.
S
If
the
council
is
comfortable
with
a
grant
that
has
no
strings,
then
three
property
owners
will
get
$50,000,
if
not
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
leverage
we
leverage
that
so
we're
looking
for
direction.
If
the
council
is
not
comfortable
with
the
loan
repayment,
not
comfortable
with
a
match,
we
can
come
back
with
a
grant.
But
again
our
concern
is
that
we'll
be
impacting
fewer
units
that
way
and
not
being
able
to
make
the
impacts
which
we
understood.
The
council
was
looking
at
for
more
than
what
would
be
three
property
owner
and.
R
So
this
is
just
one
second.
This
program
was
designed
based
on
the
original
facade
program
with
the
5050
match,
and
it
is
a
forgivable
loan,
so
it'll
still
it'll
be
recorded,
but
only
for
the
period
of
the
loan.
Obviously,
then
I
mean
the
period
of
affordability
and
then
it'll
be
given
and
released.
V
Based
on
the
feedback
that
we
have
to
date
is
that
there
would
be
a
income
qualification
both
for
the
landlord
and
then
also
for
the
tenant,
and
that
way
we're
certain
that
we
are
helping
moderate
income
and
lower
landlords
to
supply
affordable
housing.
It's
also
pervert,
preserving,
usually
their
own
housing,
because
many
of
these
are
owner
occupied,
and
that
is
a
way
for
us
to
kind
of
help
them
stay
in
their
place.
V
It's
going
to
help
seniors
age
in
place,
so
if
there
is
a
way
to
look
at
it
being
a
grant
and
dispersed
that
more
than
just
three,
if
we
have
a
hundred,
fifty
thousand
I
think
fifty
thousand
per
property
you
might
might
not,
it
might
be
too
much.
Maybe
we
look
at
what
the
average
repair
is
gonna
be.
Is
it
a
roof?
Is
it
new
mechanical
systems?
Is
that
a
host
of
property
violations
I
just
want
to
do
something
that
works
and
not
create
an
opportunity
that
folks
can't
access
and
right
now
we're
hearing
that?
A
T
So,
for
if
we
did
a
grant
program,
if
we
here's
my
thought
and
tell
me
if
this
is
redundant
of
something,
but
if
we
did
a
grant
program,
you
know
up
to
$50,000.
So
then
that
way,
you
know
you
could
figure
out
what
you
can
repair
I,
like
the
part
that
ottoman
Ruth
Simmons
brought
up
about
the
income
qualification
for
the
tenant
and
the
landlord,
but
I.
T
You
know,
maybe
not
being
able
to
help
as
many
people
we
don't
have
to
give
everyone
the
50
we
can
give
what
they
need,
but
even
if
we,
you
know,
get
three
or
four
more
units
that
we
can
preserve
as
affordable.
That
are
a
nice
condition.
You
know
that's
better
than
having
a
pot
of
money
that
people
can't
access,
so
I
definitely
could
support
a
grant,
maybe
put
a
cap
on
it.
Obviously,
we'd
want
to
make
sure
that
people
what
I
would
want
to
make
sure
people
aren't
the
same.
T
People
aren't
accessing
the
funds
every
year,
necessarily,
but
then
also
that
those
units
are
kept
in
perpetuity
as
affordable
at
whatever
I
think
you
have
that
in
there
now.
So,
whatever
that
rate
would
be,
the
other
thing
is
and
I
don't.
It
sounds
to
me
like
the
CDBG
loan
option
is
similar
to
the
current
loan
option.
We
have
now
that
people
can
access
to
get
home
improvements
done
so
I
think
you
know
continuing
to
market
that
program.
T
If
people
have
repairs
that
are
maybe
over
the
fifty
thousand
dollar
grant
that
there
is
I
know
people
don't
love
a
lien,
but
it's
better
than
a
bank
loan
with
our.
You
know
me
with
our
lower
interest
rates
and
things
so
as
another
option
for
people
to
access
capital
for
their
improvements
for
their
property.
A
Okay,
I
think
Thank,
You,
alderman,
Fleming
I
will
just
add.
You
know
for
25
years
of
experience
working
with
communities
all
over
the
country
on
on
grants,
I've
seen
some
that
have
been
100,
100
percent.
So
it's
it's
been
a
full
grant,
as
opposed
to
having
some
kind
of
cost
share,
so
I
mean
right
now.
Basically,
it's
a
50/50
cost
share.
This.
A
It
as
it's
designed
I
would
just
caution
having
there's
always
value
and
having
somebody
have
some
skin
in
the
game.
I
see
this
one
federal
loan
to
be
given
to
state
or
locals,
so
it
doesn't
always
have
to
be
the
50-50.
However,
the
council
thinks,
but
there's
real
value
in
that
partner,
also
having
something
in
their.
A
Is
correct,
correct
but
I
mean
you
could
look
at
it
that
way
and
say:
okay,
that's
that
skin
in
the
game
or
you
could
say,
hey
we're,
gonna
fund.
You
know
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
repairs,
they're
gonna
put
in
ten
thousand
or
whatever.
That's
that's
real
skin
in
the
game.
In
terms
of
making
the
the
renovation
okay,
we
got
alderman
Fisk
and
then
ultimately.
X
Thank
you,
yeah
I
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
the
units
that
are
affordable.
I
know
we
can't
do
in
perpetuity,
but
for
a
long
enough
time,
so
that
the
money
that
is
part
of
the
program
really
is
going
to
improving
the
the
structure
and
the
and
for
the
tenants
and
isn't
just
a
quick
fix
up
and
then
the
tenants
are
gone
and
then
you
come
in
with
market
rate,
know
they're.
The.
R
The
income
restrictions
for
all
of
the
units
affected
were
set
at
sixty
percent
by
the
council,
and
we
had
periods
of
time
that
ran
from
ten
years,
affordability,
fifteen
years
or
twenty
years
depending
on.
So
if
somebody
got
fifty
thousand
dollars,
it
was
twenty
years
and
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
cutoff
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
so
they
were
relatively
long-term
affordability
for
the
amount
of
money
that
they
are
getting
relative
to
many
other
programs.
What.
R
It
is
it
well,
we
have
in
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
which
is
kind
of
different.
That
is
a
was
a
25-year
affordability.
Now
it's
a
thirty
year
of
water
bullet
affordability,
but
that's
for
the
most
part
when
you're
doing
new
construction-
or
you
know
pretty
major
renovation
of
something
historically
were.
R
Programs,
like
the
home
program,
does
not
extend
affordability
past
fifteen
years,
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
people
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
financing
if
they
have
that
restriction
on
and
right,
it
keeps
them
from
maintaining
their
product
properties.
So
we
sometimes
trap
ourselves
in
very
small
properties
when
we
put
very
long-term
restrictions
on
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
staff.
R
In
fact,
that
was
one
of
staff's
concerns
with
restricting
all
units
at
60%
of
area
median,
that's
really
a
deep
restriction
when
you
have
a
two
unit
building,
for
example,
if
you
did
both
units
and
it's
very
difficult
to
cash
flow,
a
building
with
two
units
at
sixty
at
sixty
percent.
So
one
of
the
reasons
we
cdbg
use
is
80
percent
of
area
median
I
had.
X
To
mark
quite
I'm,
sorry
go
ahead
like
no
that's,
okay,
I
just
don't
want
to
drag
it
out,
but
the
information
you're
providing
is
really
useful.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
But
generally,
what
do
you
see
is
the
need.
I
mean
how
many
what's
the
applicant
pool
here,
I
think
it's
probably
larger
than
we're.
Anticipating
I.
R
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
not
done
a
lot
of
work
with
is
the
rental
market.
Most
of
the
CDBG
program
is
owner,
occupied
single-family,
so
I'll
be
frank.
We
need
to
learn
more
about
it,
but
I
have
talked
to
some
landlords.
Who
said
you
know,
look
if
I
had
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
do
a
matching
program.
I
would
be
going
out
doing
those
things
right
now,
but
why
they're
not
taking
CDBG?
R
We
haven't
been
able
to
determine
yet
in
some
cases
they
don't
want
the
strings
and
I
find
it
very
difficult
with
any
public
money
to
not
have
some
kind
of
strings
attached.
I
mean
you
have
to
so
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
and,
quite
honestly,
I
do
think
that
getting
a
group
of
landlords
together-
and
maybe
the
best
thing
we
could
do-
is
take
these
programs
and
have
a
bunch
of
property
owners.
R
Tell
them
tell
us
what
works
about
both
of
them
and
and
actually
try
to
come
back
with
something
different
from
what
we
have
I
don't
know,
but
right
now,
I
do
have
concerns
about
50/50
cost
sharing
and
the
sixty
percent,
and
so
we're
just
so.
We
were
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it
off
the
ground.
Thanks.
C
But
you
know
the
piece
I
guess
the
couple
of
things
I
would
want
to
highlight
if
they're
property
standards,
repairs
that
are
related
to
property
standards,
I
think
that
that
should
be
prioritized
and
and
I
guess.
I
want
to
get
away
from
the
antidotal
and
I.
This
may
seem
crazy,
but
I
would
want
to
open
up
the
application
process
just
to
see
what
we
get
and
I.
C
Don't
know
how
you
would
present
that,
but
I
think
what
you
would
yield
are
getting
the
concerns
that
they
have
versus
just
a
roundtable
discussion
captured
on
paper
and
then
maybe
out
of
some
of
those
applications.
They
may
be
good
candidates
for
the
CBD
G,
but
I'm
just
curious
to
know
like
what's
out
there
and
what
are
people
looking
to
repair.
C
In
addition
to
the
comments
that
we've
heard,
you
know
continuously
like
the
ones
that
we
heard
tonight
and
then
the
other
condition
that
I
would
like
to
put
on
it
is
that
they're
responsible
for
getting
those
three
quotes
with
a
with
an
emphasis
on
Evanston
based
contractors.
Now
that
may
sound
like
a
whole
lot,
but
those
are
the
thoughts
that
I
would
like
to
add
to
the.
V
You
I
want
to
be
careful
about
putting
it
out,
as
is,
and
so
maybe
a
little
clarification,
there's
currently
no
income
qualification
for
the
owner,
correct
and
there's
no
residency
qualification
for
the
owner
or
there's
no
sort
of
qualification
other
than
the
need
and
providing
affordable,
affordable
housing
for
the
record.
Correct.
V
I
want
to
be
careful
with
that,
because
we
could
run
into
developers
that
are
full
of
capacity
accessing
this
opportunity
and
providing
affordable
housing,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
when
I
started
the
discussion
about
this
I
had
on
mine,
the
owner,
that
is
themself,
moderate
income,
those
that
are
owner
occupants
and
that
are
carrying
the
burden
to
provide
affordable
housing.
So
I
want
to
be
careful
that
it
doesn't
fall
in
the
wrong
hands.
So
I
don't
know
what
we
can
do.
Can
we
continue
on
with
adding
on
a
income
qualification
for
the
owner?
S
All
the
Gruesomes
members
of
the
council
I
think
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
good
feedback.
What
we'll
do
is
we're
going
to
take
this
Assistance
Program
kind
of
put
this
aside,
take
this
out
of
the
cycle,
so
you'll
hear
back
from
us
prior
to
three
months
and
come
back
to
a
P
and
D,
hopefully
in
the
next
about
30
days,
yeah.
S
R
S
R
Okay,
so
this
is
the
first
one,
which
is
that
using
the
bonuses
from
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
to
look
at
giving
people
variances
when
they
want
an
additional
unit
or
something
like
that
and
having
those
units
restricted
at
eighty
percent
of
the
area
median
for
ten
years
got
to
be
our
recommendation.
Thank.
U
U
R
A
R
A
R
Two,
our
other
text
amendment-
and
this
is
the
unique
use
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
experiment
with
small
out
housing
I.
Ultimately,
it
could
result
in
knowledge
that
could
write
code
for
small
a
lot
housing.
It
also
may
be
something
that
in
and
of
itself
could
be
used
for
odd,
shaped
Lots,
weird
things
that
we
honestly
don't
make
good
use
of
right
now,
but
it's
being
done
in
two
places.
Other
cities,
where
they're
really
making
good
use
of
bits
and
pieces
of
land
that
have
before
just
been
considered,
not
usable,
okay,.
AB
Also
think
this
is
a
good
idea
at
the
third
board
meeting
last
Thursday
night
I
had
we
had
dick
Coe
come
from
Evanston
development
cooperative
and
to
give
a
talk,
a
presentation-
and
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
interest
from
people
about
exploring
this
idea
with
him.
So
I
I
think
that
this
is
I,
think
that
we
may
will
see
this
coming
back
again.
If
we
can
change
the
unique
use,
great.
V
T
Can
look
into
that
and
my
question
for
that
is
I
definitely
support
this,
but
I
also
don't
want.
We
have
very
restrictive
zoning
and
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
with
and
I
don't
want.
All
of
our
experimental
zoning
to
be
in
one
area
of
town.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
mindful,
and
if
we're
going
to
do
this
and
I
think
we
should
put
it
a
couple
of
different
places
to
see
how
it
works.
Not
just
one
location-
and
you
know
have
that-
be
the
total
we.
R
R
Too,
small
and
and
and
one
of
the
things
about
this
unique
use
is
it
actually
has
a
great
deal
of
oversight
because
it
is
almost
like
a
mini
PD
I
mean
it
really
does
go
through
a
public
process
and
it
would
be
approved
by
council
before
anything
move
forward,
so
it
wouldn't
be
the
way
to
do
this
efficient
efficiently.
Ultimately,
if
we
get
the
kinks
worked
out,
but
I
think
it
means
that
there
is
enough
input
that
we
won't
have
things
go
right
either.
Thank.
C
K
C
C
So
I
can
tell
you
right
now
that
it's
happening
right
in
that
area,
that
there
is
interest,
and
hopefully
I-
think
in
the
next
45
days
we're
trying
to
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
with
with
landowners
that
Dempster
rolled
its
that's
very
organically,
its
own
artist
community
and
we're
looking
to
expand
on
that.
So
hopefully,
in
the
next
six
days,
60
days
to
three
months,
we'll
have
some
real
applications
coming
through,
so
I'm
excited
about
this,
and
and
definitely
in
full
support
of
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
X
X
R
And
we
don't
really
want
to
try
to
put
a
definition
on
an
absolute
lot
size
at
this
point,
because
I
think
it
may
be
different
in
different
situations.
But
our
goal
with
this
particular
project
was
to
see
if
we
could
get
to
ownership
houses
that
could
be
purchased
and
would
be
on
smaller
Lots
than
normally
wait.
I.
X
AC
Good
evening
Johanna
Leonard
commune
of
Elm
dr..
Yes,
we
would
this
book
with
the
Planning
Commission
they
would
they
review
review
it
and
discuss
it
and,
like
you,
they
would
and
and
others
up
here
they
would
be
very
concerned
with
making
sure
that
there's
a
definition
and
there's
a
lot
of
working
documents
that
define
small
Lots
I
think
we're
trying
to
meet
flexibility
for
interesting
lots
and
build
up
urban
spaces.
But
we
also
have
to
make
sure
we
have
a
zoning
code
that
describes
things
accurately.
We.
X
A
X
I,
just
I
just
want
to
make
a
reference
of
real
quick
on
affordable
housing.
I
want
to
make
a
reference
to
the
plan,
Commission
I
believe
to
look
at
art
space
as
a
way
for
us
to
create
some
affordable,
affordable
uses
in
as
part
of
our
development
of
some
buildings.
That
might
need
some
help
and
we're
we're
looking
at
trying
to
make
our
rental
space
more
available
to
persons
who
really
need
it.
Not
as
a
public-private
partnership
is
that
right,
Johanna
with
both
living
and
working
spaces.
AC
For
those
of
you
who
haven't
heard
art
space
is
a
organization
based
out
of
Minneapolis
that
looks
to
retrofit
and
build
new,
affordable,
artist's
loft
studio
space.
So
people
can.
What
challenge
in
a
lot
of
communities
is
artists
want
to
do
their
art,
but
they
also
need
a
place
to
live.
So
how
does?
How
does
that
space
work
out
and
there's
a
few
examples
in
Chicago,
one
in
Waukegan
and
one
in
Elgin,
where
they've
had
successful
projects?
AC
A
Great,
so
we
had
a
motion
that
was
seconded
for
this
item
to
accept
and
place
it
on
file
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay,
SP
2
will
be
placed
on
file
as
a
unanimous
I
guess.
We
have
eight
to
eight
to
zero.
We're
now
going
to
move
on
to
SB
4
alderman
Wilson.
Could
you
introduce?
This
is
I,
think
I
have
seven
or
do
I'm
sorry,
you're
right
I
do
have
seven
Thank
You
Clark,
Reid,
okay,
that
was
seven
to
zero.
Okay,
SP.
U
Four
is
the
ordinance
38
Oh
at
nineteen,
affordable
housing
fund
and
demolition
tax
update.
This
is
for
introduction.
The
housing
and
homelessness,
Commission
and
staff
are
recommending
approval
of
the
ordinance
amending
title
for
chapter
18
of
the
city
code
to
increase
the
demolition
tax
to
further
affordable
housing
efforts.
The
demolition
tax
for
a
single-family
detached
residential
structure
will
increase
to
$15,000
from
$10,000
and
for
any
multi-family
single-family
attached
or
to
family
residential
structure,
either
15,000
or
5,000
per
unit
in
the
structure,
whichever
is
greater
and
that's
an
iMovie
introduction.
U
Okay,
all
the
minerals,
okay-
and
this
is
something
I've,
I
and
I-
think
others
have
been
supporting
for
a
while.
It
ties
the
loss
of
affordable
units
to
the
demolition
tax
and
has
all
been
fleming
and
others
were
pointing
out.
I
think
this
provides
us
with
an
opportunity
with
so
at
$5,000
per
unit.
We
don't
have
to
do
this,
as
you
know,
as
part
of
this,
but
you
know
when
we
look
at
how
we're
going
to
use
the
money
down.
U
The
road
I
think
we
should
proceed
with
this
tax,
but
that
does
provide
us
with
a
pool
of
money
to
potentially
work
with
tenants
who
are
being
displaced.
So
I
do
want
to
introduce
this
move
forward,
but
we
can
look
at
that.
You
know
the
distribution
of
the
funds
as
we're
getting
into
those
other
issues
as
well.
Does.
U
A
A
T
I
definitely
support
this
I
will
say
coming
back
to
the
tenant
relocation
part,
so
the
two
tenants
I'm
thinking
of
who
just
recently
have
been
relocated
because
their
buildings
were
purchased
and
they
were
told
they
had
to
move
the
buildings
are
not
being
knocked
down
and
from
my
understanding
they
don't
even
have
a
permit
to
be
knocked
down
at
this
point.
So
I
definitely
would
appreciate
this
money
being
used
for
that.
T
But
you
know
we
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
trying
to
say
this,
but
if
this
money
was
used
for
some
kind
of
tenant
relocation,
tenant
assistance-
you
know
these
two
families,
their
buildings
not
knocked
down,
so
we
still
would
need
to
have
potentially
something
to
help
them
because
I,
you
know,
people
could
buy
your
building
and
have
you
move
and
maybe
knock
it
down
for
a
long
time
or
not
knock
it
down
at
all,
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
just
continue
to
advocate
that
we
have
a
both/and.
Thank.
AB
Yep,
like
other
things,
I
that
we
have
talked
about
where
we
set
a
fixed
number
I,
don't
remember:
how
long
do
we
establish
the
demolition
tax
it
was.
It
was
2007
right,
okay,
so,
twelve
years
ago,
instead
of
having
to
return
to
this
well,
can
we
come
up
with
some
way
of
indexing
it.
So
there
it
go,
increases
on
a
regular
step
basis.
You
know
that
we
determine
that
with
the
staff
determines
is
appropriate.
Well,
we.
AB
S
AB
AB
C
R
Are
waivers
if
somebody
is
tearing
something
down
in
affordable
housing
is
being
available,
they
do
not
pay
the
tax
we
also
have.
There
is
a
kind
of
complicated
thing,
we're
an
owner-occupant
there's
something
down.
If
they've
lived
there
for
three
years
and
then
they
tear
it
down
and
they
build
something
and
they
live
there
for
another
three
years
they
get
their
money.
Rebated
it's
pretty
complicated.
We
might
want
to
look
at
something
simpler
if
we
want
to
continue
with
it
and.
C
R
Not
taxed,
there's
a
demolition
fee
for
any
building
and
that's
because
of
the
that's
the
in
some
cases.
It's
related
to
County's
demolition
requirements,
I
believe
I'm,
not
super
knowledge,
but
but
it's
it's
and
there's
a
building
permit
for
demolition,
but
that's
totally
separate
from
the
demolition
tax.
The
demolition
tax
does
not
apply
that
I.
V
Zoning
or
property
value,
and
just
thinking
because
because
of
zoning,
the
multi
families
that
will
be
more
likely
to
be
demolished,
they're
gonna
be
in
lower-income
neighborhoods.
So
just
thinking,
if
that
was
ever
considered,
it
was
that
ever
part
of
the
discussion
when
we
came
up
with
this,
not
to
my.
R
R
We
did
look
at
trying
to
tie
the
payment
to
what
they're
building
in
place,
so
you
know,
in
other
words,
if
they
were
building
a
huge
expensive
thing.
They'd
have
to
pay
even
more.
The
problem
we
ran
into
is
trying
to
actually
figure
out
how
to
implement
it.
When
it's
implemented.
If
somebody
tears
something
down,
then
we
wouldn't
get
anything
till
it's
built
again
and-
and
it
also
is
very
difficult
to
put
things
on
valuations
because
then
you
to
actually
make
it
fair
or
or
have
some
basis.
R
You
end
up
getting
appraisals
and
the
cost
and
the
process
to
implement
it
begins
to
outweigh
the
benefits.
Unless
you
really
raised
that
fee
a
whole
lot
more,
and
that
was
pretty
much
the
discussion
that
the
housing
and
homelessness
Commission,
they
did
give
it
a
significant
amount
of
discussion,
as
alderman
of
Ravel's
can
attest
to
so
one
of
the
problems
is
sometimes
it
just
gets
too
complicated.
We
can't
implement
it.
This.
R
A
A
A
V
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
staff,
recommend
city
council
approval
of
resolution,
36
r19
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
deed
in
lieu
of
foreclosure
agreement
for
the
acquisition
of
a
vacant
lot
located
at
1805,
Church
Street
in
Evanston
this
property
at
the
corner
of
Church
Street
and
Darrow
Avenue
has
been
identified
as
a
development
site
for
affordable
or
mixed
income
housing.
It
is
adjacent
to
two
parcels
we
currently
own
at
1708
and
1710
Darrow
Avenue.
This
is
for
action
for.
Y
R
The
only
time
you
run
into
you,
as
with
any
kind
of
site
that
has
contamination,
there's
there's
a
certain
capping
of
certain
things,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
do
certain,
if
you
remove
the
cap
or
need
to
make
a
change
to
that,
you
still
have
to
put
a
barrier
down.
So
if
somebody
were
to
dig
if
they're,
just
putting
down
foundation
hilarious,
my
understanding
is,
you
know
just
they.
It
would
not
require
additional
work.
R
But
if
somebody
I'm
not
saying
this
is
going
to
happen,
if
somebody
wanted
to
build
down
and
build
a
basement
or
something
like
that,
then
they
would
have
to
dig
out
material
put
another
barrier
in
when
Emerson
Square
was
built,
and
that
was
on
a
contaminated
site.
There's
there
are
engineered
barriers
under
some
of
those
things
and
they're
quite
deep.
So
all
of
those
things
have
to
be
looked
at
as
part
of
the
development,
but
so.
R
V
A
B
I
B
A
V
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
SP,
six
staff
recommends
adoption
of
ordinance,
36
Oh
19,
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
negotiate
the
sale
of
city-owned
property
at
1824,
Emerson
Street
Evan
in
Township,
High,
School
and
conformance
with
the
terms
of
the
intergovernmental
agreement
between
the
city
and
ETH
s
for
geometry
and
construction
class
for
introduct
introduction,
you're.
B
A
S
Mayor
before
we
and
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you,
Sarah
and,
and
all
the
folks
from
the
community
development
staff
a
lot
of
information
to
cover
in
one
evening
in
one
sitting.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
and
for
the
members
of
the
council,
conveniently
we
have
another
fifth
Monday
in
the
month
of
July
on
July
29th,
and
so
does
this
still
work
for
the
council
to
use
that
fifth
Monday
as
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
affordable
housing?
C
S
S
A
Be
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
sure
we
decided
this
city
managers
gonna,
look
at
look
at
the
calendar
and
see
if
there's
a
late,
August
state
where
he
could
put
that
meeting
just
to
give
people
a
break
during
the
summer
here
on
the
and
the
council
and
all
the
people
that
are
working
hard
as
well
on
affordable
housing
that
may
want
to
take
a
little
time
off
all
right.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
everybody
for,
for
all
the
hard
work
on
that
we're
now
going
to
move
to
a
different
topic
which
lots
of
people
spoke
about
as
well
during
public
comment
today
and
I
know,
lots
of
the
aldermen
have
been
hearing
about,
and
that
is
regarding
parking
in
Evanston
and
the
changes
that
are
going
on
in
the
modifications
that
we're
making
so
welcome
mr.
Lee
to
discuss,
as
can
I,
get
a
motion
for
sp7
parking
updates.
All
right
welcome.
Thank.
W
You
good
evening,
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
city
clerk
and
city
manager,
I'm
Erica
story,
the
assistant
city
manager
gonna
go
through
a
few
updates
that
we've
been
compiling
for
this
meeting.
As
you
know,
we've
made
many
changes
in
the
parking
system
since
the
beginning
of
the
year,
and
those
changes
have
resulted
in
some
very
good
feedback
from
the
community.
The
parking
division
is
striving
to
be
adaptable
and
amenable
to
new
ideas.
W
So
some
of
these
changes
that
we're
proposing
our
direct
directly
in
response
to
the
feedback
we've
gained
from
the
residents
and
the
business
owners,
so
just
a
quick
overview
of
what
we're
gonna
cover
tonight,
longer
term
parking
options
in
business
areas
and
outside
of
the
downtown
core.
Looking
at
options
for
eliminating
the
convenience
fee
on
the
park,
Evanston
app,
what
we
call
a
lockout
period
or
the
ability
to
reap
arc
in
the
same
spot
later
on
and
in
a
given
day
and
then
sweet
sweeping
changes.
W
So
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
exciting
change.
A
lot
of
people
have
been
talking
about
this
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Parking
Transportation
Committee
has
discussed
it
on
several
occasions,
but
generally
times
have
changed,
people
are
doing
experience,
businesses
having
dinner
and
movie
two
hours-
it's
just
not
simply
long
enough
to
accomplish
what
people
want
to
accomplish,
especially
in
the
different
business
areas
where
there
isn't
a
long-term
parking
garage
option.
W
So
what
we've
compiled
tonight
in
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
bunch
of
changes
related
to
where
we're
going
to
allow
for
extended
parking
both
in
the
outer
lying
areas
of
downtown
and
then
in
the
business
districts
outside
of
the
downtown,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
and
great
detail.
These
are
the
highlights.
City
city-owned,
surface
park
in
our
city
operated
city
or
surface
parking.
Lots
are
going
to
be
for
hours,
so
library
parking
lot
parking
lot
next
to
smiley.
W
Brothers
parking
lot
on
Central
Street,
just
west
of
the
McCormack
Boulevard
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
really
great
amenity
for
people
going
to
these
business
areas
at
the
end
of
the
slideshow
I
have
detailed
maps
on
each
one
of
these
changes.
So
if
you
have
specific
questions,
I
can
go
through
those
later
on,
or
you
can
just
refer
to
them
off
of
the
website
for
more
information.
W
These
changes
that
we're
going
to
put
in
obviously
we're
going
to
evaluate
this,
isn't
the
end-all
be-all.
If
there's
going
to
be
additional
places
where
it
makes
sense
great
things,
we
can
constantly
continue
to
evaluate
where
the
usage
is
at
and
then
make
adjustments
with
pay
boxes
and
apps.
We
can
be
much
more
nimble
than
when
we
had
the
parking
meters
in
certain
places.
A
Erica
can
I
just
ask
one
question
about
the
four
hours,
so
I
presume
that,
historically,
the
reason
that
our
a
lot
of
our
meters
around
town
were
two
hours
is
that
they
were
intentionally
obviously
encouraging
turnover
and
that
that
was
something
that
you
know,
retailers
and
restaurant
ORS
and
in
the
business
community
wanted.
So
can
you
just
talk
to
that?
A
little
sure.
W
And
that's
absolutely
correct
when
we
had
the
merchants
summit
here
a
few
weeks
ago.
Many
merchants
were
completely
opposed
to
anything
longer
than
two
hours.
Businesses,
like
floral
shops,
dry
cleaners.
You
know
they
don't
want
to
have
a
spot
in
front
of
their
business
taken
up
for
four
hours
at
a
time.
That's
why
you
see
that
the
changes
most
of
them
outside
of
the
downtown
two
hours
is
still
in
place
directly
in
front
of
the
major
business
areas
and
it
only
converts
to
four
hours
after
5:00
p.m.
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
so
Sara
you
look.
Nuts
are
part
of
me.
Sorry
Erica,
my
appache,
exciting
about
the
change.
I
think
this
is
one
opportunity
where
residents
will
know
that
we
we've
heard
them,
and
so,
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
one
slide,
the
one
area
so,
though
I
just
to
be
clear,
so
it's
up
to
four
hours
right,
correct
that
that
should
be
noted
and
then
the
other
concern
that
I've
heard
it's
just
with
the
zoning.
C
So
now
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
people
leaving
the
zones,
but
there
was
still
a
concern,
particularly
with
seniors
that
the
distance
between
the
sign
is
so
I.
Don't
know
how
you
improve,
but
that,
but
that
is
just
something
that
I've
heard
the
distance
between
the
signs
is
sometimes
confusing
for
for
people
to
be
able
to
put
them
into
the
app
yeah.
W
C
T
W
T
And
so
at
night
we
talked
about
after
so
at
four
hours
is
to
max
it
regardless.
So
if
you're
going
downtown
evidence
and
I
mean
I
know
if
you're
parking
a
lot,
you
have
more
time.
But
if
your
downside
evidence
yeah
four
hours
for
your
dinner
and
a
movie
if
you
park
on
the
street
even
after
5:00
right.
W
T
So
I
think
and
again
I've
mentioned
this
in
partner
transportation,
I'm
I
kind
of
wing
it
on
my
parking,
because
it's
a
little
confusing
right,
so
I
go
to
one
business
district
and
it's
I.
Think
for
me
the
easiest
thing
to
read
is
the
20
minute
meter,
because
it's
green
but
other
than
that
I,
don't
know
until
I
put
in
my
parking
up
what
I
can
do
and
so
I
don't
know
and
I
know.
T
We
have
a
lot
of
signs
already
on
the
street
and
so
I'm
not
very
hard
to
read,
depending
on
your
vision,
but
I
would
hope.
You
know
my
concern.
I
guess
is
with
the
zones
because
I
don't
really
understand
them.
I
mean
they
kind
of
remind
me
of
our
zones
for
buildings.
They're
very
you
know:
I
go
to
one
business
district.
It's
one
way,
I
go
downtown
it's
another
way
and
I.
T
T
We
had
the
opportunity
to
a
full
city
parking
study
and
we
missed
that
and
I
think
we
tried
to
do
something
that
was
more
convenient
with
the
parking
up,
but
it
seems
to
have
caused
more
confusion,
and
you
know,
if
I'm
being
honest,
I
I
just
hope
that
these
maps-
or
we
have
some
kind
of
way
to
explain
this
in
a
way
that
is
very
clear
to
people.
I
mean
very
clear.
Our
business
owner
is
very
clear
for
our
customers.
T
W
Absolutely
agree:
I
think
the
signage
is
going
to
be
key,
I
think
there's
a
fine
line
between
too
much
signage
and
just
the
right
amount.
I
think
you'll
see
a
good
balance
of
that.
Once
we
implement
these
changes
sort
of
marketing
the
fact
that
this
longer
parking
option
is
now
available,
and
also
with
both
the
app
and
the
paybacks,
it
won't
let
you
pay
to
park
more
than
what
you're
allowed
to.
So.
If
you
come
up
to
a
space
and
you're
only
allowed
two
hours,
it
will
only
let
you
pay
for
two
hours.
W
T
But
you
don't
know
that,
so
you
find
a
space
right.
Some
circle
encircling
I,
find
my
space
I.
Think
all
right.
It's
a
new
for
our
rule.
I
go
to
the
app
and
I
realize
is
the
to
our
space.
And
then,
if
we
have
the
I
know
we're
gonna
get
rid
of
lockouts,
but
you
know
I,
just
I,
don't
know
how
we
get
past
that
because
you
don't
know
what
the
parking
is
until
you
find
the
parking
space
right.
W
A
W
It
is
coming
up
later
in
my
presentation,
but
in
the
month
of
March
we
issued
3,400
warning
citations
for
street
cleaning.
Okay,
we
did
not
do
too
much
other
enforcement
during
the
month
of
March
because
we
were
busy
issuing
all
those
tickets,
those
warning
tickets,
so
we
do
give
warning
tickets.
It's
a
little
bit
more
difficult
and
time-consuming
to
go
to
every
car
in
the
street
and
look
up
whether
or
not
that
car
has
had
a
previous
citation.
S
Thank
you
and
I
would
want
to
remind
the
council
that
we
sent
to
every
resident
in
business
in
Evanston
on
March
1st,
a
document
that
detailed
the
changes.
So
you
know
I
think.
As
mr.
Lee
said,
there
has
to
be
a
balance
and
we
don't
want
people
to
feel
that
this
is.
But
we
would
much
prefer
that
the
City
Council
tell
us
what
you
believe
the
community
standards
are
for
what
the
law
should
be,
what
the
zone
should
be
and
then
allow
us
to
enforce
them.
A
AB
So
and
perhaps
you're
going
to
get
to
this
Erica,
but
what
we
heard
over
and
over
again
at
transportation
and
parking,
and
that
I've
heard
from
the
merchants
over
and
over
again
is
the
zones
that
that
were
on
the
city
books
for
for
a
long
time.
But
we
didn't
have
the
technology
now,
which
we
now
have,
which
enforces
the
zones
and
what
we
heard
a
lot
was.
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
get
rid
of
eliminate
the
zones,
because
that's
the
thing
that
people
find
very,
very
confusing
and
the
merchants
find
difficult.
AB
We
do
have
areas
where
people
will
visit
Main
Street
in
the
morning
for
breakfast
at
lucky
platter
and
then
might
come
back
in
the
evening
to
park
or
at
five
o'clock
to
park
for
dinner,
and
there
they're
locked
out
they're
not
allowed
to
park
again
so
and
I
know
that
a
transportation
of
parking.
This
was
a
significant
issue
and
it's
incredibly
confusing
people
have
I
know,
there's
a
zone
number
on
these
things,
but
it
I
was
I'm
unaware
of
where
the
zone
ends
and
the
next
one
begins.
AB
I
mean
now
that
it's
been
explained
to
me.
I
now
understand,
but
that's
way
too
much
for
the
average
Evan
stone,
Ian
Parker
to
absorb
and
and
especially
for
people
who
are
coming
to
our
destination,
retail
or
restaurants.
In
you
know,
I'll
just
speak
for
Maine
Dempster
Mile,
where
we
have
people
coming
from
not
from
Evanston
who
are
coming
for.
Maybe
one
visit
every
six
months,
today's
Rock
shop
or
one
of
the
other
businesses
and
they're
completely
flummoxed
by
this
news
parking
system.
AB
So
my
other
question
is
I'm
I,
see
that
we're
we're
opening
up
the
parking
lots
and
most
and
conveniently
in
most
places
for
the
four
hours
I'd
like
just
to
get
the
information
on
the
parking
lot
lot,
sixty
on
Chicago
Avenue
as
to
how
many
spaces
are
available
in
that
lot,
because
I
know
a
number
of
them
are
our
permit
only
long-term
overnight,
24-hour
permit.
So
I'd
like
to
find
out
how
many
spaces
are
there
sure
I
can
get
that
information
to
you.
X
Thanks
and
Erica
I
want
to
hear
the
rest
of
your
of
your
report.
Cuz
you
may
cover
this.
Have
we
looked
at
possible
locations
and
I
know
they're
extremely
expensive,
but
other
parking
garages
throughout
the
city
where
we
have
parking
problems?
How
long
has
it
been
since
we've
actually
looked
at
that?
Do.
W
X
I
guess
I
I
have
never
received
so
many
complaints
as
I
have
about
the
parking
changes.
I
mean
people
are
I'm,
almost
literally
tearing
their
hair
out.
They're
so
upset
about
this.
The
and
thank
you
mr.
city
manager,
I,
was
one
of
those
people
that
got
a
reprieve
from
the
street
cleaning
the
street
clean
evening.
Ticket
and
I
appreciate
that
as
everyone
else
on,
my
street
did
as
well.
But
but
this
is
this
is
in
some
ways
we're
making
it
more
complicated.
X
S
We
have
people
coming
from
other
parts
of
Evanston
other
parts
of
the
North
Shore
to
get
on
the
metro
and
the
CTA
and
we'd
be
happy
to
park
as
close
to
the
stations
as
they
can
to
be
there
all
day.
So
that's
part
of
the
balance
and
I
think
that
if
the
council
would
like
to
say
that
it's
for
our
parking
everywhere
and
not
have
any
to
our
parking
I,
don't
think
from
a
staff
perspective.
We
have
a
problem
with
that.
S
X
X
I
really
understand
that
I
mean
I
used
to
be
on
parking
and
transportation.
I
know
that
I've
heard
that
discussion
I
are
Santa,
I,
just
think.
There's
another
way
for
us
to
approach
this.
There
has
to
be
a
simpler
way
for
us
to
do
it,
because
it's
just
right
now
it
just
isn't
working
and
I.
Don't
think
trying
to
manage
this
is
is
again
is
is
effective.
I
just
think
we
need
to.
X
We
need
to
just
kind
of
clear
the
decks
and
look
at
the
situation
that
we
have
and
who's
who
it
is
that
we're
hurting
and
we're
only
hurting
ourselves
I.
You
know
we're
hurting
our
business
owners,
we're
hurting
the
people
who
want
to
come
and
shop
here
and
dine
here,
and
everyone
is
upset.
So
we've
got
to
figure
out
a
better
way
and.
S
S
I
think
if
the
council
wishes
to
go
for
ours
everywhere,
with
the
caveat
that's
been
said,
you
know
that
then
I
think
alleviates
some
of
those
issues.
We
can
then
continue
to
work
with
the
business
districts,
because
I
think,
on
the
one
hand,
we're
hearing
if
it's
the
same
everywhere,
then
everybody
knows
and
has
clear
expectations.
S
On
the
other
hand,
we're
saying
it
can't
be
the
same
everywhere,
because
every
business
area
is
different
and
so
we're
trying
to
balance
that
the
city
over
and
was
1940-something
that
the
parking
meters
were
first
put
in
place
in
Evanston,
and
we
changed
no
law.
When
we
put
in
these
kiosks,
we
are
merely
enforcing
the
laws
that
are
on
the
books.
So
we
hear
you
we
hear
the
businesses
word
is
trying
to
be
as
your
professional
staff,
mindful
of
of
some
additional
unintended
consequences.
We
have
found
some
with
this
change.
AB
I
and
I
I'm
sorry
I
stepped
out
to
confer
with
main
dempster
mile,
but
I.
Don't
know
what
all
completely
what
alderman
Fisk
said,
but
I
am
I
am
I'll,
say:
I
am
somewhat
worried
about
completely
eliminating
the
to
our
parking,
because
we
did
do
a
study
within
the
last
five
years
that
figured
out
what
the
average
amount
of
time
that
someone
you
parked
in
our
downtown
and
it
was
under
the
average,
was
under
two
hours
now.
You
know.
AB
Are
there
so
I?
That's.
Why
I'd
like
to
have
that
looked
at,
but
I
do
think
the
the
zones
and
I
understand
mr.
tsuda
manager
that
the
zones
were
put
in
place
years
ago,
but
we
do
have
to
figure
out
how
to
because
those
are
very
confusing
and
very
problematic
and
I
think
we
do
need
to
figure
out
how
to
eliminate
those
I
know.
I
I
have
I,
haven't
even
gotten
to
the
issues.
Maybe
all
are
infested
of
the
paid
boxes
themselves,
which
I
think
are
stunningly
on
user-friendly
I
mean
they.
AB
They
I
have
helped
so
many
people
with
those
pay
boxes,
I
hand
out
my
business
card
to
people
who
can't
make
them
work
and
tell
them
that
if
they
get
a
ticket
they
should
get
in
touch
with
me.
I
was
on
Main
Street
in
the
parking
lot.
The
other
day
there
was
a
line
of
for
people
with
some
poor
soul.
Saying
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
make
this
thing
work
and
nobody
else
on
the
line
you
had
to
make
it
how
to
make
it
work
either
I
kind
of
snuck
away
at
that
time.
AB
So
you
know
these
boxes.
You
know
people
are
used
to
using
electronic
boxes,
but
these
boxes
I,
don't
think
the
directions
are
very
clear
at
all.
They
might
be
to
everyone
under
30,
but
but
they're
all
on
the
app
so
I
think
we
got
a
that's
another
thing
I've
heard
is
that
the
boxes
aren't
are
not
that
user-friendly
and
I
don't
mean
to
beat
up
on
you,
mr.
Li,
but
it's
like
alderman
Fisk
I
have
just
been
besieged
with
people
who
are
so
frustrated
with
this
I.
A
Think
Thank
You
alderman
when
I
to
have
helped
many
people
with
those
pay
boxes
and
I,
never
I,
never
tell
them
who
I
am
I,
also
travel
around
the
country
quite
quite
a
bit
and
I
have
yet
to
find
the
perfect
pay
box
out
there
and
other
other
communities
that
I
use.
I
always
stand
there
for
a
minute,
go
okay.
What
am
I
supposed
to
do,
which
button
to
a
hit?
So
let's
go
with
alderman
Revell
and
alderman
Wilson.
A
Y
I'm
glad
Alderman
suffered
and
has
arrived,
because
what
I
was
about
to
say
is
that
I
think
this
whole
conversation
really
points
to
the
need
to
do
the
parking
study
that
we
were
prepared
to
do
a
number
of
months
ago
until
we
hit
our
little
budget
crisis
I,
just
we're
about
to
make
some
important
changes,
I
think,
but
we
need
another
dozen
changes
still
and
each
change
we
make
triggers
some
other
thing
that
needs
adjusting,
so
I,
don't
know
if
I
couldn't
yield
to
Alderman
suffered
it.
Do
you
want
to
jump
in
his.
AD
Thank
you
know
the
gentlemen
of
Boy
Scout,
Troop
912,
send
their
regards
to
all
of
us
so
and
I
apologize.
Obviously,
I'm
late
here,
I
had
a
meeting
with
Central
Street,
some
several
Street
business
owners
who
have
a
real
concern
about
parking
on
their
little
area
and
then
discussing
it
with
them
and
realizing
whatever
we
decide
to
do.
There
will
affect
the
residents
on
Harrison
and
kind
of
the
cascade
effect
of
whatever
we
do.
I
would
just
really
like
to
encourage
us
to
allocate
the
resources
for
a
citywide
parking
study
I.
AD
A
W
W
U
U
It's
for
introduction,
that's
great,
because
I'm
gonna
need
time
to
talk
to
you,
know
business
owners
and
residents
and
my
ward
and
get
some
feedback,
but
the
ultimate
stuff
from
this
point
is
correct.
I
really
think
it's.
We
can't
do
a
one-size-fits-all
thing.
Evanston's
cobble
together
with
you
know
all
kinds
of
different
circumstances,
facts
and
and
and
and
development
trends.
So
it's
you
know
each
each
little
spot
is
is
unique
and
we
don't
want
to
make
it
worse.
That's
the
bottom
line.
U
V
You
is
there
a
standard
parking
policy
for
business
districts
that
are
right
in
like
a
residential
area,
and
so
we
have
in
the
fifth
Ward
very
disconnected
merchant
districts
that
are
also
in
residential
areas,
and
so
we
have
what
feels
like
a
unique
situation,
but
maybe
it's
not
so
unique.
So
is
there
a
standard
for
that
type
of
parking
need
where
there
is
residential
and
then
business
like
immediately
in
the
same
block,
so
basically
I
support
Ottoman
suffered
in
and
a
parking
study.
I'll
just
do
that
because
I
don't
know
there.
W
V
V
And
I
think
I've
asked
someone
or
maybe
I
didn't,
but
can
I
just
ask
someone
to
put
a
sign
there,
because
that
might
eliminate
some
of
the
congestion
that
we
have
where
folks
are
fighting
for
parking
along
the
church
dodge
business
district
like
they
aren't
aware
that
they
could
park
amount.
Absolutely.
That
would
be
helpful
for
some
immediate
relief.
So.
C
V
S
W
AD
Sorry,
if
you
covered
this
or
we
had
talked
about
in
better
signage
and
wayfinding,
downtown
and
letting
people
know,
the
capacity
at
the
garages
is
that
something
that
is
budgeted
is
what's
the
saddest
dessert
opportunity
to
include
that
as
part
of
this
study
or
how
I
do
it,
can
we
get
some
signs
on
town?
So
people
know
how
many
spots
are
available
in
the
garages
and
then,
rather
than
deal
with
the
meters,
they
could
at
least
make
an
informed
choice
and
whether
or
not
they
would
prefer
to
park
in
a
garage.
Yes,.
W
But
the
comprehensive
sign
package
is
in
the
CIP
budgeted
the
money
is
there.
We've
got
other
CIP
projects
that
we've
already
started
on
parking
that
resurfacing
think
of
some
garage
projects,
but
the
the
signage
is
coming
up
and
we're
probably
going
to
start
that
and
a
mother
too
so
I
think
I
think
that's
critically
important
to
this.
The
whole
puzzle
is
that
the
signage
is
not
as
good
as
it
could
be
and
letting
people
know
where
the
available
spaces
are
safe,
the
battle,
and
so
once
we
have
that
in
place.
A
W
W
The
vendor
has
given
us
a
couple
of
proposals
about
how
they
could
lower
the
fee
to
25
cents
or
27
cents.
I
still,
don't
think
that
that's
the
best
way
to
move
forward
any
convenience
fee.
Just
feels
like
an
irritation,
it's
what
we've
been
hearing
the
feedback
from
most
people,
so
we
have
talked
about
this
model
with
the
vendor
and
they
are
working
on
getting
us
a
proposal
that
I
hope
to
bring
to
you
in
the
very
near
future,
which
basically
would
say.
W
If
you
have
the
wallet
and
you
use
the
wallet
there
would
be
no
transaction
fees
on
anything.
But
if
you
use
the
pay-as-you-go
option
which
cost
the
city
more
money,
you
would,
then
you
would
still
be
charged
a
convenience
fee.
So
there
would
be
some
incentive
to
you
preload
the
wallet
with
a
at
minimum
ten
dollars
and
then
use
that
going
forward.
So.
A
I,
like
I
like
I
use,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
you
could
probably
tell
how
many
people
use
the
wallet.
I
use
the
wallet
since
you
told
me,
oh,
you
need
to
really
use
the
wallet
and
I
do
find
it
easy,
but
I
still
right
now
right
pay
the
convenience
fee.
How
much
money
is
the
vendor
receiving
I
mean
it's
great
that
they're
offering
us
this
app
and
many
thousands
of
people
are
using
it.
How
much
money
are
they
getting
out
of
the
app
each
month?
So.
W
I've
been
closely
tracking
this
because,
like
I
said
that
the
usage
has
pretty
much
double
of
year
over
here
seems
to
be
implemented.
They
have
five
years
ago
when
we
first
started
using
the
app
the
vendor
was
getting
maybe
four
or
five
thousand
dollars
a
month
last
month,
I
think
that
was
thirty.
Five
thousand
thirty.
W
Z
W
Model
for
them
there's
ongoing
safety
and
security
that
they
need
to
do
to
it.
You
know
it's
keeping
the
app
up-to-date
and
things
like
that,
like
there's,
definitely
cost
that
the
vendor
will
continue
to
incur
plus
there
every
time
a
transaction
is
process,
that's
another
cost.
They
need
to
have
the
bandwidth
and
the
processing
power
and
all
of
that
stuff.
W
So
it's
it's
not
a
situation
where,
once
you've
built
the
app,
then
you
have
no
more
money
than
you're
sure
incurring
as
a
vendor,
but
I
don't
think
that
at
present
the
cost
of
what
we're
we
would
potentially
be
paying
if
we
as
I'm,
proposing
pay
for
all
of
these
transaction
fees
for
everybody,
was
commensurate
with
what
we
would
be
receiving
in
return.
I
ran
the
numbers
if
we
were
to
pay
for
all
these
transactions
at
the
rate
that
we're
at
right
now,
it
would
be.
M
W
If
we
don't
get
to
a
grant
agreement
with
our
current
vendor,
we
have
the
option
to
then
go
out
for
an
RFP
and
look
for
another
vendor
to
provide
the
same
service,
which
obviously
comes
with
great
hardship.
Switching
getting
people
to
download
a
new
app
reloading,
a
new
wallet
all
that
we
want
to
avoid
that
if
we
can.
But
if
we
can't
you
know,
we
have
to
entertain
all
options
to
get
the
best
deal
for
the
residents.
I'd.
W
A
A
It
really
is
I
mean
that
app
really
is
an
amazing
convenience.
If
you
don't
use
it,
I
gotta
say
like
I'm,
downtown
all
the
time
that
convenience
fee
kills
yeah
and
then,
if
you
want
to
avoid
the
convenience
fee,
you
got
to
figure
out
where
the
box
is.
You
know,
walk
to
the
box
figure
out
how
to
use
the
box
and
then
walk
back,
and
then
you
don't
have
to
walk
back
to
your
car.
A
X
Sorry,
Eric
I'm
gonna,
keep
interrupting
you
so
anyway
see
map
has
a
has
a
brochure
called
parking
strategies
to
support
livable
communities.
I
have
not
read
it,
but
it
seems
to
be
sort
of
on
target
with
what
we're
talking
about.
Can
we
all
take
a
look
at
that
and
in
the
free
time
that
we
have
and
see
if
there's
something
there,
that
would
inform
us
as
to
a
way
forward.
I
don't
see
the
date,
but
it
looks
relatively
recent.
W
We
will
take
a
look
at
that
all
right,
I'm
gonna
talk
about
the
lockout
period
for
a
minute.
So
if
you're
not
familiar
with
this,
the
city
code
has
said
for
many
decades
that
you
cannot
park
on
the
same
block
more
than
one
time
per
day.
So
that
means,
if
you
park
on
the
block,
you
cannot
return
to
that
same
block
until
the
next
day,
and
this
was
to
enforce
the
two
hour
maximum.
So
in
the
old
days
somebody
would
walk
along.
They
would
chalk
the
tire
if
he
parked
there
at
10:00.
W
If
it
came
back
at
12:30
and
you
were
still
there,
you
got
a
ticket
because
he
stayed
over
two
hours.
That
was
how
this
was
enforced.
It's
a
little
bit
different.
Now
that
we
have
the
app
and
the
pay
box
certainly
went
even
with
a
two
hour.
Maximum
people
could
continue
to
feed
a
meter
if
they
wanted
to,
and
if
you
got
caught
you
got
caught.
W
If
you
didn't
you
didn't
so
people
were
utilizing
this
method
citywide
until
the
implementation
of
the
app
and
the
payback,
so
that
this
brought
the
concern
to
light
wait
a
minute.
What
if
we
want
people
to
come
back
and
be
able
to
park
on
the
same
block
in
the
same
day
after
some
period
of
time?
So
the
question
is
you
know
what
is
that
period
of
time
and
how
do
we
enforce
it?
W
So
we
want
to
continue
to
encourage
that
transit,
though
that
turnover
make
sure
that
the
to
our
policy
is
enforced
and
available,
but
also
make
it
easier
for
people
to
return
to
this
spot.
So
right
now
we
have
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
after
the
feedback
that
this
was
not
something
that
people
were
amenable
to.
We
did
switch
that
lockout
period.
It
was
that
at
five
hours
to
30
minutes,
so
you
can
come
park
at
a
spot,
leave
come
back
and
park
within
another
30
minutes,
but
after
30
minutes
correct.
W
So
in
Chicago,
if
you're
familiar
when
ABC
did
their
story,
they
told
us
this
they've
confirmed
it.
Even
though
the
the
street
says
two
hours,
you
can
continue
to
pay
that
meter
all
day
long
or
that
with
the
app.
You
can
continue
to
extend
your
time
for
six
eight
hours.
It
doesn't
matter,
they
won't
lock
you
out
at
any
point
in
time
or
require
you
to
move
I,
think
the
pay
boxes
are
set
up
differently,
but
the
app
doesn't
require
that
you
have
that
lockout
period
at
all.
AB
W
AB
AB
W
A
Erica
we
had
a
resident
here
tonight,
Laurie
Keenan,
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
her
when
she
was
out
of
public
comment.
I
was
just
talking
about
having
used,
you
know
the
app
paid,
but
then
was
you
know,
getting
a
ticket
and
saw
other
people.
Are
we
confident
that
sort
of
our
city
technology
is
working
properly
and
that
people
aren't
getting
tickets
who
actually
paid
so.
W
And
so
if
people
had
paid
for
their
time
via
the
app
it
wasn't
refreshing,
quick
enough
on
the
device
that
has
since
been
resolved.
We've
turned
off
the
Wi-Fi
on
all
the
devices,
and
now
we
are
more
confident
that
the
information
is
refreshing
at
a
rate
that
is
accurate,
so
totally
apologize
for
the
inconvenience
that
people
had
to
endure.
While
that
bug
was
worked
out
by
the
vendor.
But
at
this
point
I'm
not
aware
of
any
other
issues
where.
Y
W
Street
sweet
things
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
a
couple
of
changes
that
have
happened.
I
know
that
there
has
been
this
sentiment,
that
there
are
more
parking
enforcement
officers
on
the
street
and
that
part
of
that
reason
is
that
we
made
this
met
this
big
change
last
year
and
how
we
enforce
street-sweeping.
So
we
decided
that
the
council
took
the
recommendation
of
staff,
which
was
that
people
were
more
inconvenienced
and
more
heavily
burdened
by
the
financial
cost
of
towing
for
street
cleaning
than
if
we
were
to
raise
the
ticket
slightly.
W
So
we,
the
council,
did
determine
that.
We
should
go
away
from
towing
for
standard
street
cleaning
and
instead
just
give
tickets
so
now
we'd
only
tow
on
special
postings.
That's
if
we
put
up
a
placard
that
says
street
cleaning
and
those
certain
areas
of
town
where
it's
super
important
to
get
those
streets
clean,
because
there
hasn't
been
compliance
and
a
regular
posting.
So
when
a
parking
enforcement
officer
used
to
do
towing,
it
would
take
the
entire
day
to
do
six
or
eight
or
ten
cars.
W
It
was
a
very
cumbersome
and
time-consuming
process,
so
those
officers
are
now
freed
up
during
the
day
to
go
on
their
normal
routes
and
so
there's
a
lot
more
visibility
of
these
parking
enforcement
officers,
because
they're
not
tied
up
doing
the
toast.
In
addition,
City
Council
approved
in
the
budget
last
year,
the
addition
of
two
parking
enforcement
officers
so
generally
there's
just
more
staff
available
to
enforce
the
rules
than
there
were
in
the
past,
and
so
that
is
part
of
the
reason
why
the
enforcement
staff
is
more
visible
and.
S
A
AB
W
S
A
Hundred
so
what
300
but
I
think
you
need
I
think
to
do
that
analysis,
though
it's
really,
you
know
parking
tickets
issued
by
enforcement
officer.
If
you
increase
the
number
of
forcement
officers,
okay,
naturally,
you
know
there
might
be
an
increase,
but
my
question
has
always
been
you
know:
are
we
issuing
more
tickets
and
to
me
you
take
the
total
tickets
divided
by
the
number
of
forcement
officers
you
have
and
then
that
would
be
a
way
to
properly
analyze
that
right.
AB
And
I,
my
point,
though,
was
to
say
you
know,
and
over
the
years
we've
talked
about
this.
A
transportation
in
a
parking
is
that
you
have
to
find
the
right
balance
in
terms
of
allowing
people
to
not
feel
as
though
they're
going
to
get
a
ticket
if
they,
if
they
get
back
to
their
car.
You
know
just
a
few
minutes
late.
You
have
to
give
people
I
know
we
have
a
grace
period,
although
I'm
not
sure
we
do
anymore
and
we
used
to
have
a
10-minute
grace
period
on
all
of
our
meters.
AB
It
you
had,
it
was.
What
we
want
to
do
is
encourage
compliance,
but
not
make
people
feel
as
though,
if
they
make
one
mistake,
boom
they've
got
a
ticket
and
I
mean
there.
I've
lived
in
places
that
are
like
that.
You
know,
we've
all
been
places
like
Chicago,
it's
a
little
bit
like
that
I
think.
But
you
know
you
want
to
make
it
so
that
not
every
visit
is
going
to
be
a
potential
ticket.
AB
W
AB
And
another
thing
that
happened
when
we
started
putting
in
the
credit
card
the
ability
to
pay
with
a
credit
card,
we
actually
wrote
fewer
tickets
because
people
were
able
to
pay
the
amount
they
needed.
It
wasn't
just
depending
on
how
many
coins
you
had
sitting
in
your
car,
so
what
we
found
was
parking
tickets
dropped
after
we
got
much
more
credit
card
usage,
and
that's
that's
where
we
want
to
be.
We
want
people
to
be
in
compliance
and
not
writing
more
tickets.
T
Erica
mentioned
so
I
asked
this
question
during
the
budget,
and
I
wasn't
reminded
of
it
in
my
own
brain
until
we
talked
at
parking
and
transportation,
but
I
did
want
to
see
the
numbers
and
the
city
manager
sent
him
out,
but
it
would
be
great
for
me
to
see
him
on
a
map
if
possible,
in
terms
of
where
the
tickets
are
I,
think
we
did
it
last
year,
but
I
would
be
interested
in
looking
at
that.
Please
certainly.
W
X
As
I
mentioned
before,
one
of
the
things
that's
complicating
to
people
is
that
on
residential
streets,
for
example,
or
any
other
street,
where
we
have
multiple
signs,
we
we
place
the
signs
for
street
cleaning
at
either
end
of
the
block,
and
sometimes
the
blocks
can
be
short,
and
sometimes
they
can
be
long.
But
I
think
people
are
confused
when
they
walk
up
to
a
pole
and
they
see
signs
there
and
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
street
cleaning
and
they
park
there.
They
may
be
half
a
block
away
from
the
actual
street
cleaning
sign.
X
They
may
be
unaware
that
there's
even
a
street
cleaning
sign
there,
so
I've
asked
the
city
manager
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
us
to
make
sure
that
those
street
cleaning
signs
now
that
the
fines
are
$75.
But
to
put,
though,
that
signage
on
every
pole,
where
we
have
other
parking
information,
I
know
that
increases
the
costs
and
it
also
increases
the
number
of
signs.
But
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
as
again.
X
They
think
that
we're
trying
to
balance
a
budget
on
the
backs
of
people
who
are
well-intentioned
but
may
have
missed
the
sign,
so
it
what?
What
is
the
way
that
we
can,
we
can
make
it
appear
fairer,
because
I
think
we
want
to
be
fair
and
I
know
the
city
manager.
You
gave
me
a
cost
on
throughout
the
city,
but
that's.
W
Certainly,
some
of
the
feedback
I've
been
hearing
is
that
people
don't
feel
that
the
signage
is
adequate.
I
know,
that's
a
conversation.
That's
been
happening
over
several
years
about
whether
there
is
too
much
scientist,
not
enough
signage.
The
decision
was
made
at
some
point
in
time
to
just
do
the
beginning
of
the
block
in
the
end
of
the
block.
Of
course,
we
can
always
change
that
and
if
the
council
directs
us
to,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
have
any
direction
to
do
that.
So
look
for
direction
on
that
going
forward.
W
How
exciting
is
that
paying
your
wheel
tax
through
the
park
Evanston
app
we're
trying
to
get
more
regular
access
to
the
Secretary
of
State
database
so
that
we
can
have
more
up-to-date
information
on
registered
vehicles
so
that
when
we
sell
vehicle
stickers,
we
have
that
information
updated
on
a
more
regular
basis
than
it
is
now
looking
at
a
discount
program
for
maple
in
Church
parking
garages
for
retail
employees,
vacation
rate
for
long
term
storage
for
parking
garages
improved
signage.
This
is
one
of
my
favorites
and
displaying
ABS
own
numbers.
W
So
when
alderman
Wynn
was
discussing
earlier,
the
confusion
around
the
zones
zone
is
just
a
term
for
the
block
number
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
going
forward
to
have
each
block
have
an
individual
number
and
the
college,
a
block
number,
not
a
zone
number
and
then
people
know
have
to
worry
about
it.
It
used
to
be
you
had
parking
number
one.
Two,
three!
You
can
have
block
number
one
two
three
and
then
each
block
has
its
own
number
and
then
it's
a
little
bit
more
clear.
W
Going
forward
that
you
know
one
zone
doesn't
extend
more
than
one
block
and
we
just
stop
talking
about
zones
altogether.
So
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
be
working
on.
In
the
near
term
promotional
campaign
around
the
garages
five
hours
for
five
dollars,
there's
been
a
request
to
have
some
more
information
readily
available
for
businesses
to
post
in
Windows
we're
creating
an
infographic
around
where
to
park,
how
to
park,
how
to
use
the
pay
box
etc,
and
then
the
improved
signage,
directing
customers
and
surface
lots
and
garages
and
then
coming
back
at
the
console
in
another.
A
Could
could
you
in
the
city
manager
come,
do
some
analysis
and
come
back
to
us
and
what
it
would
cost
to
do
a
proper.
You
know
parking
analysis
around
around
the
city.
I
know
you
sort
of
threw
out
the
hundred
thousand,
but
I
think
it's
necessary
to
just
put
some
more
thought
into
what
that
what
that
would
be
just
so
the
council
can
consider
it
absolutely.
S
The
city
manager
indicated
sixty
days
so
I
think
ninety
is
too
long,
so
will
commit
to
come
back
at
the
end
of
June
will
have
will
have
a
specific
item.
Dealing
with
a
parking
study
will
look
and
see
what
like
communities
have
done
to
get
a
better
dollar
and
I
agree
with
mayor
Haggerty
that
the
hundred
thousand
is
probably
not
something
given
the
the
extent
of
what
we're
looking
for
the
questions,
we're
looking
to
answer,
but
we'll
figure
it
out
and
we'll
come
back
to
you
in
sixty
days
it
seems
low
to
me.
A
I
just
well,
we
have
I,
mean
I
know
we
have
Katherine
God
sick
I
know
we
have
Annie
Coakley.
These
folks
are
in
the
front
line
on
a
lot
of
the
park
parking
issues.
Is
there
anything
that
either
of
you
would
like
to
add?
Well,
you've
got
the
council
here
in
terms
of
things
that
that
we
as
a
city
ought
to
be
thinking
about
and
I
know,
you've
sent
out
some
emails
to
all
of
us,
which
I
really
appreciate
it
with
a
bunch
of
bullets.
If.
AE
You
could
introduce
yourself
yes,
certainly
mr.
mayor
city
manager,
aldermen
I'm,
Katherine,
godsake,
executive
director,
the
main
dempster
mile
and
I
can't
really
say
much
more
I'm
Julie
from
Kuhn
is
in
my
district
and
she
represented
a
lot
of
the
more
organized
merchants
thoughts.
But
I
would
just
say
that
there
is
a
sense
of
urgency
like
when
I'm
hearing,
60
or
90
days.
You
know
the
merchants
are
indicating
to
me
that
that
they
are
experiencing
losses
of
sales
they're
experiencing
bad
months,
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
another
couple
of
bad
months,
that's
alarming.
AE
So
whatever
we
do,
I
would
like
it
to
be
as
quickly
as
possible.
Also,
it
seemed
that
Dempster
and
Chicago
area
is
really
challenging
and
tis
the
amount
that
has
that,
as
still
to
our
parking.
That's
that's
something
that
I
wish
I
could
get
you
to
reconsider
that
area,
because
there
is
so
little
public
parking
they're
having
people
turnover
that
quickly
is
is
seems,
problematic,
I
just.
A
AE
U
AE
U
AE
Yes,
massive
employee
parking
issues
on
on
specifically
on
dumpster
on
apartment,
both
ends
of
the
district
for
sure,
dumpster
and
Chicago
is
just
challenged.
Parking
wise,
so
I've
indicated
to
aldermen
win
that
I
would
be
happy
to
volunteer
that
area
for
any
sort
of
pilot
programs
or
anything
that
you'd
like
to
try
out
to
to
help
out
in
these
in
these
areas.
We're
motivated
to
do
that
and
dempster
in
Chicago
Thank.
AF
Good
evening,
Annie
Coakley,
director
of
downtown
Evanston
I've,
sent
out
a
lot
of
communication
on
this
topic
and
received
maybe
five
e-mails
back.
It
is
a
different
bag
for
downtown.
We
have
a
lot
of
garages
surface
Lots
a
lot
more
parking
spaces
in
general,
but
it
is
also
a
little
tricky
as
we've
been
discussing
tonight.
Some
of
my
businesses
would
prefer
to
have
two
hours
and
then,
like
we
have
a
hair
salon
here
tonight.
That
would
like
more
than
two
hours
I
think
the
solution
is
the
number
counter
on
the
garages.
AF
If
people
could
see
that
there
are
300
spaces,
they
might
be
more
likely
to
go
into
the
garage,
because
there's
that
fear,
I'm
gonna
drive
up
I'm
gonna
be
on.
You
know
that
I
don't
even
know
if
you
can
do
it
by
floor,
probably
not
but
I
do
think.
That
would
definitely
help
and
we
had
the
retail
summit
I.
AF
Think
a
lot
of
people
were
sort
of
shocked
at
how
many
spaces
are
in
the
Church
Avenue
garage
I
do
have
a
lot
of
businesses
that
will
tell
me
that
their
customers,
women,
focused
businesses,
women
were
afraid
to
park.
In
parking
garages,
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is:
they're,
better
lighting,
cleaner
garages.
AF
But
I
think
this
would
eliminate
that
need
what
I'd
really
like
to
do
is
figure
out
a
way
to
get
more
ride-sharing,
affordable,
ride-sharing,
especially
for
dining,
so
that
people
have
that
third
drink
and
spend
more
money,
and
then
they
can
get
home
safely.
And
so
that's
something.
We've
piloted
during
Restaurant
month
with
lyft
I
have
an
ongoing
relationship
with
lyft.
So
we're
gonna
see
if
we
can't
continue
something
like
that
and
Johanna
suggested
via
so
I'll
reach
out
to
them
too.
AF
S
Mayor
if
I
can
just
follow
up
on
mr.
Coakley's
comments
about
the
the
right
chair
she
mentions
via
via
has
a
third
company
that
is
offering
service
and
they
are
specifically
offering
much
more
almost
a
transit
model
for
multiple
passenger
ride-sharing,
and
so
that
is
now
it's
in
the
city
of
Chicago
and
in
Evanston
only
in
in
the
metropolitan
area.
So
I
think
that
and
I
think
that
they
didn't
start
today.
They've
started
just
over
the
last
several
days.
The
second
point
is
Divi.
S
Remember
Divi,
the
the
bike
company
is
now
owned
by
lyft,
and
so
a
lyft
and
the
city
of
Chicago
entered
into
a
revised
agreement.
A
couple
of
weeks
ago,
we
are
in
negotiations
with
lyft
for
a
similar
agreement
that
will
be
multifaceted,
not
only
covering
bikes
but
scooters,
and
hopefully
motorized
bikes,
as
well
as
perhaps
some
opportunities
on
the
right
share
site.
So
Jessica
Hynek,
our
transportation
mobility
coordinator,
is
working
with
them.
We
met
today.
S
Our
hope
is
that
it'll
be
a
transpose
a
joint
meeting
of
transportation
and
parking
and
economic
development
later
in
the
month
of
May.
So
our
hope
is
to
have
that
draft
agreement
with
all
the
various
of
new
pieces
of
the
agreement
to
discuss
at
that
joint
meeting
and
then
back
to
the
council.
So
we're
working
on
those
right
share
issues
as
well.
Well,.
AF
I
am
here,
I
will
say
personally,
my
biggest
problem
is
congestion,
downtown
with
delivery
vehicles
and
I
know
that
that's
something
we
could
continue
to
investigate
and
we
will
usually
during
lunch
time,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
trucks
delivering.
Let's
go
trucks
or
beer
trucks
delivering
and
they
clog
up
the
streets,
and
it
would
take
15
minutes
to
go
three
blocks
downtown.
AF
A
A
We
very
much
value
the
investment
that
you
all
have
made
in
evanston
and
appreciate
you
all
coming
out
and
the
city
staff
is
going
to
continue
to
work
hard,
and
hopefully
these
addition
modifications
that
we're
making
right
now
help,
but
we've
got
to
keep
working
fast
on
this.
Okay,
all
right
with
that
Alderman.
AB
Staff
recommends
adoption
of
ordinance,
36
Oh
19
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
negotiate.
Excuse
me
wrong.
One
staff
recommends
the
City
Council,
adopt
ordinance,
3100
19
amending
various
sections
of
title
10
chapter
11,
section
12
parking
meter
zones
changing
the
maximum
time
allowed
at
meters
and
surface
Lots
by
location.
These
changes
will
allow
for
our
limits
on
on
street
parking
in
certain
areas
after
5:00
p.m.
and
for
our
maximum
parking
all
day
and
select
surface
parking,
lots,
I,
move,
introduction,
I.
A
A
T
Know
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this.
I
do
have
some
things
I'd
like
to
incorporate,
if
possible,
so
for
the
goal
of
enhancing
community
development
for
expand
transportation.
I
would
love
it
if
we
looked
at
some
Sunday
transportation
options
there.
Currently,
it's
very
limited
and
I
think
zero
options.
If
you
need
paratransit,
so
that's
one
addition
I,
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
it
written
out,
but
I'd
like
the
staff
to
be
thinking
about
that.
T
The
other
part
of
it
is
my
concern
around
the
affordable
housing
options.
When
we
talk
about
build
economically
racial,
integrated,
neighborhoods,
I
guess
in
my
mind,
potentially
particularly
for
the
integration.
A
lot
of
that
and
my
mind
has
to
do
with
zoning,
and
so
you
know
I
appreciate
some
of
the
things
that
are
listed
here,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
without
really
looking
at
how
the
city
is
zoned
we're
going
to
get,
you
know
we're
going
to
achieve
that
goal
and
I
think
I
had
one
more
sorry.
Oh.
T
I
guess
my
for
investment
city
infrastructure.
We
talked
about
the
Friends
of
the
library
Friends
of
Park
and
creating
two
more
groups.
I
guess
I
would
just
like
to
mention
that
we
continue
to
go
in
their
direction.
They
have
we,
as
we
have
with
Friends
of
crown
and
I.
Think
the
city
manager
mentioned
this,
but
to
have
some
MOU
is
created
for
some
of
those
groups,
so
that
you
know
as
they're,
going
forward
there's
a
lot
of
clarity
around
how
they
work
and
what
they're
raising
money
for.
T
A
T
So
expand
transportation
and
mobility
on
page
59,
so
there
currently
is
a
lack
of
handicapped
transportation
on
Sundays,
so
people
who
take
the
pace
paratransit
does
not
operate
on
Sundays.
Thank
you
and
then
also
we
don't
really
have
a
Sunday
bus
option.
I
know
that's
a
little
bit
out
of
our
control
but
I'd
like
staff
to
start
looking
into
how
we
can
remedy
those
things.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
all
right,
so
she
made
the
motion.
It
was
seconded
all
in
favor
any
opposed
okay,
so
that
was
the
amendment
seeing
no
more
lights.
The
the
motion
for
action.
This
was
the
2019-20
City.
Council
goals
was
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor.
Any
opposed.
Okay
pass
to
the
City
Council
on
8
to
0
vote.
A
AB
U
V
You
thank
you
to
rebuilding
Together
for
your
generous
volunteerism
over
this
weekend.
They
renovated
four
homes
in
the
fifth
Ward,
maybe
others
in
the
city,
but
thank
you
for
your
partnership
in
helping
us,
preserve,
affordable
housing
and
supporting
seniors
and
staying
in
their
homes.
Longer.
Also
a
congratulations
to
the
women
of
Delta
Sigma
Theta.
They
had
their
annual
scholarship
fundraiser
this
weekend,
where
myself
and
some
of
our
other
staff
participated,
and
they
have
raised
over
the
course
of
this
event
over
$250,000
for
education,
for
scholarships
for
our
local
youth.
T
I
just
want
to
congratulate
or
support
I
guess
County
that
last
week
passed
the
just
housing,
an
ordinance
that
essentially
says
landlords
cannot
discriminate
against
people
who
have
a
criminal
background
when
they
are
looking
to
rent
and
so
I
have
spoken
to
Sara
already
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
follow.
I,
don't
know
what
we
flip-top
Interop
out
or,
however,
that
works,
but
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
great
for
our
returning
citizens
to
be
able
to
actually
rent
and
live
in
the
city
without
prejudice.
A
U
To
v
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
ilcs
120,
/,
2a
I,
move
that
the
City
Council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
litigation
in
minutes.
These
jennarose
organist
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
in
executive
session
and
are
enumerated
exceptions
on
the
Open
Meetings
Act.
These
exceptions
are
five
ILCs
120,
/,
2a,
c11
and
C
21.
Do
we
have
a
second.