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B
C
We
have
a
quorum
present
and
are
ready
to
do
our
work.
We
begin
tonight
with
my
public
announcements,
of
which
I
have
none.
Next
is
the
city
manager's
public
announcements.
D
C
C
E
Good
evening,
everyone,
thank
you
very
much.
It's
great
that
we've
been
talking
about
transparency
and
accountability.
Now
we
need
to
show
residents,
you
mean
what
you
say
and
honor
your
campaign
promises.
E
I
went
to
second
ward
meeting
hoping
to
have
some
discussion
about
the
budget,
since
our
new
interim
city
manager
was
in
the
meeting
and
asked
why
the
budget
had
not
been
discussed
first
with
residents
before
it
got
released
to
the
public.
Why
would
you
not
do
this?
How
and
when
do
the
residents
get
to
be
part
of
the
discussion
and
the
process?
E
Why
are
you
not
addressing
the
issue
of
your
process
being
flawed?
We
need
all
public
comments
to
be
addressed.
We
need
public
discussion
with
all
council
members,
the
mayor
city
manager,
city
clerk.
We
need
a
process
process
that
works
for
everyone,
not
just
some.
When
will
residents
get
involved
with
the
process
of
choosing
a
new
police
chief
city
manager
or
creating
a
new
city
budget?
E
Last
week
you
sent
out
18
new
job
opportunities.
Four
of
them
can
pay
over
a
hundred
thousand.
I
added
up
only
14
of
these
jobs
full
and
part
time.
They
added
up
to
approximately
nine
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
per
year.
We
already
have
over
eight
hundred
employees
how
many
employees
do
we
need
to
run
the
city,
and
that
does
not
include
studies
or
consultants.
E
I'd
like
to
start
my
budget
questions
with.
Why
are
we
increasing
the
budget
for
20
2022
by
59
million,
which
I
did
ask
at
the
ward
meeting?
I
don't
think
we
had
any
discussion
on
the
budget
at
our
ward
meeting,
even
though.
E
E
Agreement
for
the
water
intake
replacement
up
to
10
million
for
animal
shelter,
10
million
for
reparations
that
we
don't
know
who
qualifies
for
this
program.
89.25
million
for
fifth
ward
tiff
that
we
haven't
had
explained
yet
because
we
haven't
finished
the
discussion
on
that
tiff
as
to
where
and
when
we
have,
we
haven't
discussed
where,
when
and
how
this
money
will
be
used.
But
we
do
know
it
would
take
millions
of
dollars
out
of
the
general
fund
for
23
years.
E
E
C
C
Thank
you
very
much.
We
moved
to
the
online
commenters
who
will
begin
with
ali
harned,
followed
by
michelle
redfield
and
then
mary
rozinski.
C
All
right,
if
ms
hardin
isn't
there
we'll
start
with
michelle
redfield,
followed
by
mary
rozinski
and
then
darlene
cannon.
C
F
Hi,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
am
here
to
talk
about
the
fifth
ward
tip
and
also
because
it
is
budgets
time.
I
think
that
we
can
achieve
the
goals
that
we
want
to
do
if
we
plan
and
we
budget
for
it.
So
my
statement
is,
I
think
it's
imperative
that
the
city
council
members
stop
this
charade,
that
the
five-fifths
tiff
is
the
correct
economic
vehicle
for
the
fifth
ward.
F
This
is
just
not
true
and
that
this
will
help
bring
affordable
housing,
but
there
is
no
way
to
say
how
these
are
all
social,
buzzwords
and
goals
without
any
action
plan,
and
we
all
know
that
goals
without
an
action
plan
is
a
plan
to
fail
each
other
person
who
votes
for
it
to
move
forward
with
this
tif
will
own
and
this
vote.
His
vote
will
be
a
vote
for
public
deception
that
is
attached.
First
of
all,
the
tip
founders
exclude
the
majority
of
residents
in
the
fifth
ward.
F
Remember:
all
residents
of
businesses
outside
the
boundaries
of
the
tif
are
not
eligible
for
chip
assistance,
which
begs
the
question:
what
about
all
the
african-american
residents
and
businesses
in
the
other
wards?
Second,
many
of
the
parcels
of
the
tif
founders
are
not
fifth
ward
resident
owned.
In
fact,
there
are
many
corporate
owned
absentee
owned,
and
this
sounds
like
a
lot
of
special
interests
by
next
week.
I
will
have
a
database
to
show
a
fairly
good
representative
of
of
the
268
parcels
in
there
to
how
many
are
actually
owned
by
residents
living
within
the
boundaries.
F
Third,
the
trip
does
not
meet
the
criteria.
It
is
not
blighted
or
in
danger
of
becoming
brighter
development.
Investment
has
been
blooming,
property
values
have
been
escalating
and
there
is
no
indication
that
the
real
estate
market,
that
homeowners
investors
and
businesses
are
hesitant
to
buy
or
develop
there
any
more
than
any
other
awards.
I'm
in
the
business
I've
been
in
the
business
for
40
years,
and
I
follow
it
all
all
of
everything,
as
well
as
other
communities.
F
Fourth,
we
know
that
including
the
developed
already
developed,
1815
ridge
building
in
the
shift
so
that
the
tif
can
skim
90
of
those
property
taxes
and
dump
them
into
the
chip
fund
has
with
lots
of
banks,
property
values.
I
mean
promises,
I
apologize
is
tip
abuse
and
it's
not
okay,
it's
as
close
to
fraud
as
you
can
get.
F
Fifth
and
finally,
I
encourage
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
have
an
honest,
truthful
discussion,
read
all
about
the
tips
hope
your
discussion
represents
each
and
every
one
of
your
constituents
who
are
trusting
you
to
act
responsibly
with
their
dollars
and
with
their
goals.
We
can
budget
for
this.
There
is
no
reason
that
we
have
to
have
a
tif
in
the
area
for
23
years.
Thank
you
so
very
much
bye.
C
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
yeah,
you
can
hear
me
yep.
C
G
Okay,
okay,
thank
you,
darlene
cannon,
second
ward,
and
I
just
want
to
agree
with
what
mary
says
with
the
budget
season.
There
are
different
ways
that
we
can
do
different
things
that
we
can
do
other
than
the
tiff
and
the
fifth
one.
So
tiff
is
a
tool
of
economic
development.
It,
however,
is
not
a
benign
harm
free
one.
The
choices
for
community
development
are
not
that
divestment
or
gentrification.
G
There
are
an
infinite
amount
of
creative
choices
between
these
two
tiff
has
repeatedly
shown
itself
for
what
it's
designed
to
do.
Displace
people
for
economic
gain,
that's
just
another
way
to
say:
gentrification.
We
are
asking
the
city
of
evanston
to
be
more
creative
and
more
intentional.
The
council
should
be
the
shield
of
accountability
to
protect
us
stand
up.
If
you
see
something
say
something
do
something.
This
tif
is
like.
Its
predecessors
is
harmful
by
its
intent
design.
G
This
tip
will
push
out
and
accelerate
gentrification
in
evanston.
This
council
should
be
bringing
an
anti-racist
lens,
not
pulling
not
putting
a
nail
in
the
coffin
of
the
hemorrhaging
of
diversity.
This
tif
is
this.
Tiff
is
not
about
an
individual.
It
is
about
all
of
us,
it
will
impact
our
our
community.
Our
elected
officials
are
expected
to
protect
us,
the
residents
in
particular
our
most
vulnerable
ones.
You
cannot
vote
for
something
that
has
no
clear
agenda
and
support
it
on
a
hope
and
a
prayer
that
it
will
turn
out
right.
G
C
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
speaker
is
beth
steer,
followed
by
dorian
price
and
then
tina
payton,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
mister
is
in
the
zoom
either.
H
Thank
you
it's
my
pleasure
to
speak
tonight
to
the
council
and
the
mayor
and
everyone
who
is
involved
in
trying
to
make
evanston
a
better
place
in
terms
of
some
of
the
confusion
and
some
of
the
requests
for
detail.
It's
not
overkill
and
it's
actually
essential
and
when
cuddling
residents
want
to
speak
and
they
feel
thwarted.
H
Mayor
bis,
I
was.
I
have
great
confidence
that
what
you
want
to
have
happen
will
happen
it's
just
in
places
where
it
isn't
happening.
That's
a
problem
and,
to
the
extent
that
it's
associated
with
our
current
interim
city
manager,
that's
something
that
can
be
addressed
directly.
If
you
choose
to
do
that,
I
would
appreciate
that
you
would,
in
terms
of
the
sp1
2022,
it's
a
proposed
budget
and
the
request
to
fund
or
list
health
and
human
services.
H
Farmer,
homelessness,
prevention,
grant
program
should
be
restored
and
included
with
arpa
grants,
and
that
is
really
essential
because
when
we're
talking,
the
previous
two
speakers
were
talking
about
the
fact
that
we
kind
of
underestimate
the
need
and
the
ways
that
are
going
to
be
done
in
ways
that
don't
what
you
call
it
separate
people
and
rather
unify
people
who
are
all
vulnerable
and
in
a
particular
word
and
if
we're
going
to
parse
out
who's
needs
more.
H
For
whatever
reason:
that's
not
fair.
We
know
that
people
need
help
and
we
don't
offer
enough,
and
so
that
goes
back
to
why
we
need
to
go
back
to
health
and
human
services,
which
used
to
have
funds
in
a
grant
maker
and
that
can
be
restored.
Grant
makers
earn
more
than
their
share
of
their
money
and
we
can
have
health
and
human
services
that
are
community
specific,
which
we
know
we
need
in
light
of
trauma
and
in
integrated
medicine,
which
is
not
easily
available.
H
Even
if
you
have
insurance-
and
we
can
do
that-
we
can
partner
with
northwestern
or
you
know
every
I
mean
there's
all
these
institutions
were
around
of
course,
and
then
I'd.
Lastly,
lastly
want
to
say
that
I
have
every
hope
and
confidence
that
arpa
funds
will
be
expanded
so
that
community
and
economic
development
are
on
equal
footing,
because
what
you
do
in
terms
of
establishing
jobs
will
help
in
terms
of
helping
residents
stay
in
their
homes
and
get
rehabilitation
done
to
your
homes,
to
preserve,
affordable
housing.
H
That's
called
existing,
affordable
housing,
and
that's
when
we've
that
no
one's
acknowledged
that
and
we've
used
to
have
an
affordable,
houston
program,
and
I
don't
know
where
it
disappeared,
but
the
homelessness
prevention
was
a
big
part
of
it,
and
I
don't
see
that
now
manifesting
in
a
way
that's
going
to
help
the
community,
and
I
I
think
that
that
should
come
back
as
a
priority
is
to
prevent
more
people
from
falling
through
the
system.
Thank
you.
I
All
right
good
evening,
mayor
city
manager,
city
clerk
and
city
council,
the
tiff
budget,
arpa
and
all
other
meetings
that
comes
before
you.
These
meetings
need
you
need
to
have
meetings
with
the
residents
not
just
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
residents,
but
for
questions
and
answers
by
the
residents
which
has
been
allowed
in
the
past.
I
The
budget
just
came
out
a
short
time
ago,
one
week
ago.
I
believe
and
there's
been
no
meetings,
but
the
meeting
for
today
the
interim
city
manager
said
at
the
meeting
last
week
that
citizens,
if
they
want
to
make
comments
about
the
budget,
they
can
come
to
this
meeting
and
talk
today,
which
is
only
three
minutes
and,
as
you
can
see,
a
lot
of
people
were
not
available.
Today.
I
I
C
Thank
you
very
much.
The
people
who
I
called
on
who
didn't
sound
like
they
were
online
when
I
called
were
ali
harned,
michelle,
redfield
and
beth
stare
are
any
of
the
three
of
you
ready
to
get
public
comment
now.
J
I'm
here
now
not
there
hi,
I'm
ali
harnan
from
the
second
ward,
and
I
had
signed
up
to
speak
at
the
rules
committee
earlier
today
and
just
wanted
to
follow
up
that
a
little
bit
and
say
that
a
few
thoughts
on
that
that
I
it
was
exciting
to
be
able
to
talk
about
this
democratic
process
that
the
people
of
evanston
want.
3
800
signed
petition
to
say
that
process
and
a
question
was
raised.
J
And
I'm
listening
to
some
of
the
comments
tonight
and
hearing
that
people
are
feeling
like
their
voices
aren't
being
heard
and
that
they
haven't
had
enough
of
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
council
members
and
speak.
So
I
think
that
evi
is
an
opportunity
to
do
that
and
I'm
just
reflecting
on
some
conversations.
J
But
I
think
it's
still
important
to
listen
to
the
people
who
are
talking
to
you
about
it,
and
I
just
I
hope
people
will
have
an
open
mind
and
listen
to
the
conversations
that
are
happening
about
the
tiff
and
about
evi
in
the
future.
And
it's
just
really
important
to
be
thinking
about
the
impact
of
things.
I
am
a
school
social
worker
in
district
65,
and
I
want
to
say
that
if
there
are
disagreements
between
governing
bodies,
the
people
who
suffer
are
the
most
vulnerable,
the
children
and
the
families
of
evanston.
J
So
I
just
really
think
I
hope
that
we
are
all
thinking
about
the
impact
of
our
conversations
and
our
actions.
Sorry,
it's
playing
video
games
in
everything
that
we
do
and
thank
you
for
this
time
to
be
able
to
speak
again,
and
I
hope
that
we
will
have
a
lot
of
public
discussion
about
the
tiff
about
evi
and
things
that
the
future
that
we
may
agree
on.
We
may
disagree
on,
but
we
need
to
listen
to
each
other.
Thanks.
C
All
right
well
seeing
that
neither
seems
to
be
online
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
part
of
our
agenda
special
orders
of
business,
we're
going
to
divide
this
discussion
into
two
parts,
one
for
the
operating
budget
and
one
for
the
capital
improvement
program.
So
would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
allow
discussion
on
sp1
the
proposed
budget
so
moved?
C
Second
council
member
braithwaite
moves
that
we
discuss
item
sp1
council
member
win
seconds,
and
I
believe
ms
lewis
lakin
has
a
brief
presentation
to
share
with
the
council
of
the
community.
K
Good
evening,
members
of
council
mayor
bess
clerk
mendoza,
my
name
is
kate
lewis
lake
and
I'm
the
city's
budget
manager
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
a
few
slides
that
highlight
some
of
the
key
top
points
of
the
2022
proposed
budget.
The
budget
was
released
last
monday
october
11th
on
the
city's
website,
as
well
as
press
releases
that
went
out
the
budget.
The
total
budget
number
is
355
million
dollars.
My
slides,
don't
include
that
whole
amount.
So
we
can.
K
You
know
we'll
talk
about
many
of
those,
the
pieces
of
that
budget
that
that
you
may
want
to
discuss
tonight,
but
again
just
to
highlight
a
couple
of
key
points
from
my
view
in
the
slides
here,
and
then
we
can
come
back
for
any
questions
so
just
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
our
general
fund.
The
general
fund
is,
of
course,
our
largest
operating
fund.
It
includes
operations
for
all
of
our
city
departments
and
it's
about
one-third
of
our
city's
total
budget.
K
Our
our
general
fund
ranges
from
about
110
to
115
million
on
any
given
year.
Currently,
for
our
2022
proposed
budget,
we
are
showing
a
starting
deficit
in
the
general
fund
of
2.5
million
dollars.
This
comes
from
about
112
million
in
revenue,
115
million
in
expenses.
K
The
inclusion
of
of
a
number
of
positions
that
were
held
vacant
in
2021
are
put
back
into
the
2022
proposed
budget,
so
these
were
29
positions
that
were
deemed
critical
to
our
operations.
We
did
not
want
to
eliminate
them,
however,
due
to
the
the
concerns
from
covet
and
our
financial
situation.
When
we
were
doing
the
21
budget,
it
was
determined
that
these
could
be
held
for
one
year
and
they've
been
added
back
into
the
base
budget
for
22..
K
Our
baseline
revenue
in
the
general
fund
has
increased
from
the
2021
adopted
budget.
However,
we're
still
quite
a
ways
below
where
we
were
in
2019
2019
was
a
very
strong
revenue
year
for
us,
so
we're
about
4.5
million
below
that
still
expected
for
22.,
so
definitely
still
lingering
impacts
of
the
pandemic.
K
This
is
a
slide
showing
the
city's
property
tax
levy.
Again,
this
is
all
in
the
budget
book,
so
I
don't
want
to
overwhelm
you
with
numbers,
but
just
so
we
have
them
as
referenced.
During
this
meeting,
the
proposed
budget
includes
an
includes
an
increase
to
the
general
fund
portion
of
the
levy.
This
is
capturing
savings
that
we
are
able
to
see
in
the
debt
service
and
pension
portions
of
the
levy,
so
we're
proposing
a
flat
levy
overall
for
the
city
for
2022.
K
This
is
a
summary
of
our
rev.
Our
proposal
on
the
revenue
loss
funding
category
in
arpa,
and
this
is
the
exact
same
chart
that
was
shown
two
weeks
ago
on
october
4th
when
you
held
a
meeting
specifically
on
arpa.
So
this
is
just
an
overview
of
all
the
different
pieces
of
arpa
that
are
included
going
towards
the
city's
operations.
K
There
are
many
other
pieces
of
arpa,
as
we
all
know,
43
million
dollars
in
total.
This
only
represents
a
portion
of
those,
but
these
are
the
pieces
that
we
expect
and
have
proposed
would
be
going
towards
internal
city
operations
in
the
budget,
funded
through
again
that
revenue
loss
category
that's
available
to
us
through
arpa.
K
The
next
handful
of
slides
I've
put
on
all
of
the
specific
requests
which
are
again,
I
don't
want
to
go
through
those
individually.
You
have
those
lists
in
the
budget
and
I
expect
we
can
pull
these
slides
up
when
specific
items
are
discussed
tonight
so
that
we
have
these
slides
for
reference.
So
again,
this
is.
K
This
is
a
couple
of
items
that
we
believe
are
our
large
sort
of
policy
discussions
for
city
council
to
have
are
how
to
handle
beach
tokens
going
forward
for
the
beaches
in
evanston
and
the
revenue
loss
associated
with
that,
as
well
as
how
to
handle
our
crossing
guard
operations,
which
the
the
city
pays
for
almost
entirely
right
now
and
has
a
few
existing
reimbursements,
but
not
from
all
the
school
districts
that
benefit
from
that.
K
These
are
again
a
few
other
one-time
expenses
that
we're
proposing
be
funded
through
our
revenue
loss.
We
think
these
are
a
particularly
good
category
of
expenses
to
fund
through
this,
this
type
of
funding,
because
again
they
are
one
time
as,
as
is
the
arbor
revenue.
So
we
put
those
forward
for
that
and
then
the
final
two
slides
I
have
here
are
additional
staffing
requests
from
our
city
departments.
K
C
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
discussion
on
on
the
operating
budget
and
want
to
stress
for
council
that
I
think
nearly
all
or
all
department
directors
are
available
to
answer
questions
as
well
and
then
after
we've
had
that
discussion,
then
we'll
move
on
to
sp2
and
discuss
the
capital
improvements
program.
L
Thank
you.
Can
you
go
back
to?
There
was
a
slide
in
there
about
the
beach
revenue
and
something
else.
K
Absolutely
so
the
two
items
on
this
slide
are
again
items
that
were
that
are
not
included
in
the
base
budget,
but
we're
proposing
if
council
decided
to
move
forward
with
either
of
these,
they
would
need
to
be
funded
for
next
year
through
the
revenue
loss
funding
in
arpa.
So
the
first
one
is
free
beaches
for
evanston
residents
and
lawrence
hemingway
can
better
explain
that
number
if
need
be,
but
this
is
the
revenue
loss
that
we
would
see
if
we
continued
with
doing
free
beaches
all
the
time
for
evanston
residents.
K
So
this
would
be
an
everyday
proposal.
There's
a
smaller
number
that
we
would
be
associated
if
we
continued
the
current
policy
of
of
free
beaches
three
days
a
week.
So
again
we
we
put
that
forward
for
council
discussion
about
which
way
to
go
on
that.
This
would
be
the
number
if
it
were
everyday
free
to
have
in
stem
residence,
and
then
the
second
item
on
here
is
our
crossing
guard
operations.
K
The
city
currently
entirely
funds
crossing
guard
operations.
It's
about
620
000
for
the
total
contract
to
all
the
school
districts.
We
currently
receive
reimbursements
from
district
202
in
cairo
valley.
Continually
negotiating
to
receive
reimbursements
in
some
amount
from
district
65
made
some
progress
on
that
this
year,
but
we
are
putting
that
program
forward
for
council
consideration
again
about
whether
or
not
that
should
be
continued
in
the
in
the
2022
budget.
L
Okay,
so
I
imagine
this
is
not
the
time
maybe
to
have
those
conversations,
but
I
would
like
to
see
some
of
the
beach
numbers
flushed
out,
because
I
remember
before
we
thought
there
would
be
a
bigger
loss
this
year
with
the
free
weekend,
and
I
think
that
that
loss
was
not
as
big
as
we
projected
so
just
kind
of
wanting
to
make
sure
if
we're
thinking
of
loss
or
like
just
kind
of
what
that
number
is
based
on
and
then
for
the
crossing
guards.
I
know
I've
talked
many
times
about
this.
L
You
know
kind
of
shared
expense
with
65.,
so
I
realized
we
have
to
get
it
in
our
budget
because
now
we're
still
set
to
pay
for
it.
L
But
I
would
like
an
update
on
kind
of
where
that
conversation
is
because
you
know
this
this
year
would
be
one
thing
for
arpa
funds,
but
it's
not
attainable
for
long
term,
and
so,
if
we
know
we
can't
kind
of
afford
to
keep
covering
it
long
term,
I'd
rather
us
kind
of
have
that
in
our
budget
for
this
year
as
much
as
possible
and
use
those
arpa
funds
for
some
other
type
of
need
that
our
citizens
are
looking
for.
You
know
really
that
something
needed
plus.
L
I
know
we've
had
some,
at
least
in
my
ward,
some
issues
with
crossing
guards
being
in
place
right
so
before
I
committed
to
using
arpa
funds.
For
that,
I
would
like
to
just
kind
of
flesh
out
that
contract,
particularly
the
substitution
piece
very
much
more,
and
then
really,
you
know
pushing
the
district
to
see
if
they
can
cover,
even
if
they
go
into
it
with
half
of
it
or
their
plan
is
a
quarter
this
year
half
next
year.
M
So
seems
like
last
time
that
the
5
million
expenditures
was
listed
as
new
personnel
in
the
last
presentation.
K
So
5
million
is
not
entirely
new
personnel.
It's
it's.
Many
of
the
requests
that
follow
him
and
5
million
is
was
just
sort
of
our
initial
estimate
number
of
what
could
be
put
forward
in
this
year's
budget.
These
these
items
that
sort
of
come
forward
are,
are
included
in
that.
So
all
these
items
all
of
these
one-time
purchases
and
then
the
personnel
request,
totals
about
two
million
on
an
annual
basis.
So,
okay.
K
K
M
M
D
O
Is
this
any
better?
Yes,
okay,
I'm
happy
to
have
the
division
managers
speak
as
well,
but
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions:
do
you
want
to
go
through
position
by
position?
Yes,
please,
okay!
So
first
I
know
we
have
the
I.t
digital
services
specialist.
O
So
this
is
a
position
that
really
has
been
held
vacant
since
march
of
2020.
When
that
person
left
it
would
be
our
technical
administrator
for
the
website.
O
Our
website
was
initially
created
in
2017
and
it
definitely
needs
a
major
upgrade,
including
many
ways
to
make
it
more
ada
accessible.
This
position
would
also
work
on
open
data
initiatives.
You
know
building
in
and
restaurant
inspections.
O
M
K
This
is
one
that
was
held
vacant
in
the
past.
It
was
determined
that
this
should
be.
This
is
one
that
should
be
sort
of
brought
forward
to
city
council
to
determine
whether
whether
it
should
be
added
the
additional
are
the
rest
are
are
sort
of
brand
new
positions.
K
O
O
So
we're
just
asking
for
one
at
this
point
we
you
know
this
is
a
very
hr-
is
very
time
sensitive
needs,
the
time
to
go
through
legal
requirements.
You
know
we
don't
want
them
to
rush
and
be
making
any
mistakes.
So
it's
just
with
the
amount
of
staff
we
have.
This
is
imperative
that
we
are
able
to
have
this
person
right
now.
We
only
have
two
again
for
800
positions.
O
P
Okay,
good
evening
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
sean
trolick,
I'm
the
facilities
and
fleet
manager.
Here,
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
additional
facilities,
maintenance
positions
that
we're
seeking
approval
for
in
the
past,
we've
had
a
lot
more
staff
in
our
division.
P
P
P
P
The
second
fm3
position
would
be
a
general
tradesman
position
that
would
assist
in
this
very
large
building,
assist
the
building
building
engineer
to
make
sure
those
systems
are
up
and
running.
The
fm2
position
is
one
that
we
would
be
looking
for
to
help
with
some
of
the
basic
upkeep
of
the
building.
I
took
a
walk
with
director
hemingway
the
other
day.
We
took
a
look
at
you
know
some
of
the
doors
all
the
hockey
equipment.
That
beats
the
doors.
P
P
P
It
would
be,
it
would
be
two
new
positions
that
would
be
delegated
to
robert
crown.
So
the
building
engineer,
the
fm
worker
three,
which
is
a
building
engineer,
would
be
stationed
at
that
building.
Okay,
so
with
the
second
fm
worker
3,
the
general
tradesmen
would
also
be
stationed
at
that
building
the
fm
worker
2
would
be
able
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
there,
but
would
be
able
to
float
throughout
to
different
facilities.
Also.
M
P
C
Q
C
We're
not
taking
any
votes
tonight,
I
think,
having
as
sort
of
naturally
flowing
a
conversation
as
possible
is
important.
So
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
going
to
let
councilman
renu
smith
cut
in
you
know
on
some
sort
of
theoretical
sense.
Customer
kylie
the
floor
is
still
yours,
we'll
go
back
to
you
and
we'll
go
through
the
departments,
but
I
want
to
let
us
have
some
back
and
forth
on
this.
That's
the
go
ahead!
Councilmember
newsman
thank.
B
R
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
city,
manager,
gandursky
and
members
of
the
city
council
and
clerk
mendoza
lawrence
hemingway
director
of
parks
and
rec,
this
funding
that's
been
requested
is
coming
from
the
general
fund.
The
crown
maintenance
fund
is
money
that
has
been
put
aside
for
when
these
systems
start
to
need
to
be
replaced
that
there's
a
seat
pot
of
seed
money.
R
So
when
we
have
to
buy
a
new,
you
know
two
million
dollar
boiler
system
or
replace
glycol
systems
or
any
other
those
other
systems,
that's
the
crown
maintenance
fund,
so
these
positions
have
requested
right
now
are
coming
from
the
general
fund.
S
Quick,
quick,
just
a
quick
question
on
subject,
so
I'm
a
little
confused.
I'm
not
sure
how
to
ask
this
question
so
I'll
do
my
best,
the
old
crown
had
an
operating
fund
right
and
so
in.
My
in
my
thinking
here,
the
old
robert
crown
we
know
is
extremely
expensive
in
terms
of
maintenance
just
because
the
age
of
the
building,
and
so
now
I'm
looking
at
this
and
I'm
asking
myself
the
question.
S
R
Appreciate
it,
thank
you
directly.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
member
breakaway.
So
the
first
point
you
made
was
about
the
old
crowd
having
a
fun.
No,
it
did
not
have
any
type
of
maintenance
fund
and
your
bit
building
ended
up
in
the
kind
of
disrepair
that
caused
us
to
build
the
new
one.
So
no
fund
was
there
trying
to
do
things
differently
this
time
right.
That's
why
you
had
it.
R
To
crowd
well
yeah
this
this
comes
as
we
have
operated
this
facility
over
the
last
18
months.
What
we
have
come
to
realize
is
that
we
don't
have
enough
bodies.
This
building
is
a
seven
day
a
week,
364
day,
open,
building,
5
45
a.m,
to
midnight,
the
ice
system
and
the
technical.
R
What
we've
learned
it?
You
know
the
technical
expertise
that
is
needed.
We
need
a
specific
tradesperson
throughout
the
day,
as
well
as
on
weekends.
We
are
currently
operating
without
that.
Just
so
that
you
understand,
we've
had
a
few.
Now
we
have
an
on-call
preventative
maintenance
contract.
R
The
last
call
we
had
to
make
when
we
had
an
emergency.
It
took
them
over
three
hours
to
get
to
us
right,
there's
been
a
few
occasions
and
where
the
alarms
have
gone
off,
we've
had
to
evacuate
the
facility
et
cetera
and
most
of
the
times
those
alarms
are
when
we
don't
have
anybody
there
on
staff,
and
so,
as
you
know,
the
operator
of
the
facility.
I
work
closely
with
facilities
and
trying
to
you
know
what
is
it
that
we
need?
There
are
things
sean
didn't
mention,
as
the
building
has
settled
now.
R
It's
been
open
a
little
over
18
months
to
construction,
some
of
the
settling
issues
that
we're
having
he
talked
about
the
paint
from
the
hockey
bags.
We
got
cracks
and
seals
throughout
the
floors
throughout
the
walls
that
need
a
certain
level
of
technical
expertise
that
I
believe,
through
our
conversations
that
general
tradesmen
could
focus
on
the
staff
in
my
department
we
opened.
You
know
this
building
has
been
open
since
february
of
20.
R
This
will
allow
for
the
city
to
have
technical
expertise
on
a
more
consistent
basis,
and
you
know
none
of
we
thought
we
went
into
this
trying
to
project
our
best.
You
know
using
all
our
best
knowledge
best
practice
looking
at
other
communities
of
how
they
operated.
R
But
you
know
this:
just
is
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
square
foot
monster
that
we
need
more
technical
expertise,
and
so
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
we
collaborated
and
this
will
be
fm
stat.
This
is
facility
maintenance
staff,
this
isn't
parks
and
rec
staff.
This
will
be
facility
maintenance
because
if
it
is
slow,
one
of
the
things
or
advantages
here
sean
could,
if
he
need
to
use
these
extra
bodies
in
other
locations
as
well,
so
they're
housed
at
crown
station
their
crown
with
the
ability
to
move
forward.
P
I
did
want
to
add
one
other
thing
too.
We
got
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
new
crown
building
is
pretty
much
twice
the
size
of
the
old
crown.
So
there's
a
lot
more
equipment
a
lot
more
footprint.
This
is
also
a
two
level
building
where
the
old
one
was
a
single
level.
So
you
know
you've
got
additional
things
that
that
you
deal
with
there.
P
Lawrence
had
pointed
out
the
cracks
and-
and
things
like
that,
but
you
know
the
other
thing
with
this
building
is
there
is
a
lot
of
glass
involved
in
this
building
and
you
know
so,
where
the
other
one
was
mostly
masonry,
it's
going
to
stand
up
a
little
longer,
a
little
sturdier.
P
R
Thanks
for
bringing
up
the
glass
we've,
had
a
couple
glass
shatter
what
we
had
to
replace
just
as
the
building
settled
so
they're,
designed
in
a
way
that
it
I
say,
shatter
you
know
just
crack
throughout
spider
crack,
but
we've
had
to
replace
a
couple
and
it
was
based
on
settling
of
the
building.
So
there's
just
it's:
it's
we're
learning.
Every
day,
we've
learned
a
lot
over
the
18
months,
operating
it,
and
we've
just
come
to
the
point
where
we
need
more
bodies
to
maintain
this
very
technical
facility.
R
Q
C
Okay,
so
just
to
sort
of
unwind
where
we
are
structurally
councilmember
kelly,
asked
about
these
additional
requested
positions
and
a
is
the
first
letter
of
the
alphabet,
I'm
here
to
give
you
the
important
facts,
and
so
we
started
with
administrative
services
and
that's
we've.
That's
where
we've
gotten
to
so
far.
So
would
you
like
us
to
continue
going
through.
M
Yeah,
I
would
I
think
these
are
really
important
expenses
that
will
go
on
for
a
very
long
time.
This
isn't
so
yes,
personnel,
I
think,
are
the
most
important
expenses.
C
Great
so
go
ahead.
Ms
knighton,
with
community
development.
T
Good
eve
good
evening,
johanna
knighton
community
development
here
for
the
letter
c,
so
the
first
two
items
permit
services
representative,
two
two
ftes
and
one
permit
desk
supervisor.
I
think
each
and
every
one
of
you
sends
me
a
weekly
email
about
a
permit
that
is
stuck
or
is
slow
or
there's
a
problem
with.
We
are
understaffed
at
the
permit
desk.
This
happens
every
summer.
This
year
was
particularly
bad
because
we
did
not
have
permit
desk
staff.
T
We
had
to
bring
in
people
who
were
cross-trained
on
permit
desk
operations
to
staff
our
permit
desk.
We
just
hired
somebody
they've
been
training
for
the
past
few
weeks,
we're
still
trying
to
find
one
more
person,
but
that
will
still
not
be
enough.
I
think
they're
in
page
18
to
20
there's
a
memo
highlighting
how
much
time
each
permit
takes
different
types
of
permits,
different
processes
that
permit
staff
does
stuff
have
to
do.
If
you
calculate
all
that
up,
add
all
the
time
based
on
the
volume
of
permits
we
have.
T
We
just
don't
have
based
on
the
number
of
permits
we
get.
We
don't
have
enough
time
in
the
year
number
minutes,
hours
working
days
to
process
all
the
permits
and-
and
that
also
assumes
a
even
in
income
of
incoming
of
the
permits
they
come
they
peak
round.
They
start
peaking
around
may
june
july
august.
We
get
a
lot
and
then
by
now
it
kind
of
flattens
out,
but
in
our
permit
desk
operations.
T
Right
now,
we're
still
in
august
august
august
september,
because
of
the
lag
that
we've
had
so
those
those
three
new
positions
would
help
add
more
staff
people
can't
really
take
vacations.
When
you
work
at
the
permit
desk,
we
we
let
people
take
vacations,
but
it
you
can't
have
multiple
people
taking
vacations
at
the
same
time,
because
our
operations
grind
to
a
halt.
They
can't
be
sick
at
the
same
time.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
challenges
that
make
it
hard
to
run
operationally.
T
T
So
it's
it's
a
harder
thing
to
do,
and
you
also
then
have
our
building
and
inspection
services
manager,
spending
more
time
doing,
training
and
oversight
a
very
small
and
minor
permit
issues
when
there's
other
bigger,
bigger
things
such
as
enforcement,
visiting
different
parts
of
different
building
sites
that
person
is,
and
that
ends
up
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
those
activities.
T
Anecdotally,
I
hear
from
contractors
and
from
architects
that
say
they
are
hearing
that
people
are
not
going
in
for
a
permit,
because
it's
so
difficult
in
evanston
and
of
course,
they
then
report
that
they
would
never
say
that
to
a
client
or
customer,
but
we
know
that
that's
happening
because
we're
getting
more
complaints
about
construction
without
without
permit.
T
So
we
then
send
our
inspectors
out
to
go
visit
that
which
takes
time
out
of
their
scheduled
work,
which
further
delays
somebody
getting
to
the
next
step
of
their
project,
because
we
have
inspectors
who
have
to
go
visit
for
stop
work,
orders
and
and
then
and
then
we're
we're
in
a
position
where
we're
further
grinding
to
a
halt.
So
if
we
have
a
better
intake,
a
better
customer
experience,
we're
gonna
get
better
results
in
terms
of
bringing
in
new
revenue,
so
I
would
feel
comfortable.
Then,
in
a
year
saying
we
will
have
more
revenue.
T
U
Actually,
I
think
director
knight
answered
my
question,
which
was
do
any
of
these
positions
and
I'd
actually
like
that
to
apply
to
all
of
the
new
positions.
Are
there
any
of
the
new
positions
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
that
have
a
potential
for
adding
revenue?
And
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
saying?
U
Yes,
it
does,
and
I
would
acknowledge
your
point
that
I
do
believe
residents
have
alluded
to
me
that
they
have
bypassed
the
pro
the
process
occasionally
and
it's
alarming,
but
they
say
well,
we
can't
wait
any
longer
we're
just
going
to
go
forward
so,
but
so
I
think
you're
right
that
if
it's
a
if
we
return
to
a
quicker
process
that
people
will
be
happy
to
go
through
it,
not
if
not
happy
but
they're
ready
to
go
through
it.
S
S
So
if
that
means
more
revenue
coming
in
which
you
already
said
again
I'll
ask,
can
we
just
look
at
the
backlog
of
permits?
There's
maybe
one
indicator
missing
and
then
the
other
piece
which
I
also
think
is
critical-
is
the
work
being
done
without
approvals.
I
mean
there's
no
way
to
really
quantify
that,
but
I
would
hope
you
know
from
a
common
sense
perspective
if
people
are
doing
work
without
proper
permits
and
paying
attention
to
the
regulations
and
we
open
up
ourselves
to
a
lot
of
problems
later
on.
So
thank
you.
T
If
you,
if
you
looked
at
it,
was
a
hundred
and
thirty
eight
hundred
sixty
four
hundred
and
I'm
sorry
that
wasn't
correct
218
for
last
year
for
for
work
without,
if
you
assigned
a
let's
say
each
one
of
those
was
a
thousand
dollars
of
a
permit,
I
mean
that's
average.
Some
of
these
permits
are
very
multiple.
T
Of
dollars,
that's
a
lot
of
that's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
recovered
right
there,
so
I
think
I
think
you
would
you
know
I
can
we
can
work
to
make
some
assumptions.
I
mean
the
other
thing
to
think
about
is
if
these
extreme
storms
that
we
get
as
climate
change
continues
to
be
a
reality.
T
The
hail
storm
of
of
2020
was
an
intense
disaster
for
roofs
in
evanston,
and
that
resulted
in
a
lot
of
permits
and
a
lot
of
permanent
activity
that
a
lot
of
activity
that
was
not
permitted,
that
we
went
in
and
were
able
to
capture
as
well,
so
those
those
kind
of
events
being
able
to
respond
to
them
quickly
because
they
really
are
catastrophic,
because
people
can't
it
can't
live
in
their
homes.
We
have
people
who
are
begging.
I
can't
live
in
my
home
because
the
roof
is
so
damaged,
at
least
so.
T
So
those
are
you
know
there
we
can.
We
can
quantify
maybe
some
of
those
those
catastrophic.
Q
S
And
this
is
more
so
for
the
benefit
I
mean,
I
think
back
here.
We
get
it
because
we
get
the
complaints
every
single
day,
emails
phone
calls
and
contractors,
but
just
for
someone
in
the
public
to
be
able
to
see
something
graphic
that
they
can
hold
on
to
is
is
the
basis
of
my
challenge
not
disagreeing
with
whether.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so,
in
addition
to
this,
increased
personnel
expense
you're,
also
proposing
spending
some
money
on
some
software,
and
they
would
have
to
go
together
really
to
make
the
most
to
make
the
most
improvements.
T
I
mean
I
we're
what
we
our
inside
joke
in
the
office
is
what
we
are
operating
on
is
like,
if
you
still
had
the
iphone
too
and
you've
never
done
any
updates
and
we've
learned
to
make
phone
calls
with
other
people's
phones
we've
we're
using
spreadsheets,
I
mean
we've.
We've
used
all
the
tools
that
are
at
our
disposal
to
try
to
make
this
work,
but
we
are
not
running
with
the
best
system
and
we
often
blame
the
system,
but
we've
never
invested
in
it.
T
So,
for
I
think,
we've
had
it
for
15
years
we've
never
invested
in
it.
We've
never
made
many
improvements
to
the
workflow
things
that
should
be
captured
in
there
are
not
necessarily
captured
in
there
it
it
in
terms
of
boxes
to
check
those
are.
Those
are
things
that
are,
you
know
our
organizational
failure,
but
we
have
not
made
that
I
think
it
was
sold
at
the
time.
This
will
solve
all
your
problems,
but
the
approach
wasn't
that
we
needed
to
make
it.
D
Let
me
jump
into
and
there's
understand
that
there's
less
accountability
when
you
have
a
software
system
that
doesn't
track
where
the
permit
process
goes
so
right
now
we,
you
know
the
permits
go
to
an
inbox
and
then
someone
has
to
print
off
that
paper
and
they
start
working
on
it.
And
then
it
goes
the
next
person
the
system
is
just
archaic
and
with
the
upgrade
the
one-time
upgrade
of
the
software
system,
there
would
then
be
more
accountability,
not
just
department-wide,
but
city-wide,
because
public
works
could
then
see
where
a
permit
lies
in
community
development.
B
T
All
of
that,
and
and
some
like,
we
have
issues
with
property
maintenance
in
the
same
department.
Don't
necessarily
talk
to
each
other,
the
software
that
doesn't
talk
to
others,
so
somebody
has
a
violation
from
a
property
standards
perspective.
We
can't
look
to
then
see
if
they
have
an
open
permit
on
something.
It's
I
mean
we
can
look
this
this
stuff
up,
but
it
adds
add
extra
time
and
process
or
even
do
they
have
outstanding
fines
on
something
else.
T
T
We
people
in
evanston
still
want
people
to
talk
to,
and
that
has
become
if
I
was
standing
here
last
year.
I
might
not
have
said
that,
but
it
has
been
more
pronounced
than
ever.
People
want
to
talk
to
people,
they
want
to
have
a
person
help
them,
because
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
applying
for
permits
are
people
who
have
no
building
experience,
so
they
need
a
little
bit
of
technical
assistance.
The
contractors
may
have
the
challenge.
T
It
may
take
them
some
extra
time,
but
it's
people
like
all
of
us
in
this
room
who
are
applying
for
something
because
their
contractor
said.
Oh
just
you,
it's
not
that
hard,
you
go
get
it,
and
so
those
individuals
need
a
lot
of
hand.
Holding
a
lot
of
technical
assistance
and
people
want
to
talk
to
a
person.
The
first
thing
I
hear
when
I
I
am
now
as
the
community
development
director
returning
phone
calls
to
people
who
are
upset
that
they
don't
have
a
permit
and
the
first
thing
they
say.
T
B
There
was,
you
know,
initiative
to
improve
procedures
and
processing
for
building
permits.
So
have
we
done
what
we
were
supposed
to?
According
to
last
year's
budget
discussion,.
V
T
Allows
for
some
of
the
quick
we
call
them
express
permits,
so
new
water
service
roo
some
roof
permit,
there's
some
very
simple,
straightforward
permits
that
we've
been
able
to
turn
on
that
module
for
we've
scanned
a
lot
of
our
documents,
so
things
that
we
might
have
otherwise
had
to
go
in
a
file
file
cabinet.
In
the
back
on
the
third
floor,
we
can
now
find
within
literally
seconds
so
those
those
are
things
that
we
have
done.
T
We've
asked
for
this,
this
money
in
previous
budgets
and
it's
been
smaller
amounts,
for
I
think
last
year
was
150
or
maybe
160
000,
so
those
we've
had
smaller
bites.
You
know
the
approach
was,
let's
do
small,
small
small.
I
think
we've
we're
running
out
of
time
in
terms
of
catching
up
to
what
people
are
willing
to
tolerate.
I
think.
Moving
to
this
remote
virtual
experience
has
really
amplified
the
need
for
for
some
of
this
digital
catch-up.
C
T
Well,
we
use-
and
it's
completely
escaping
me
right
now-
the
the
software,
the
program
where
you
can
call
somebody
and
they
can
provide
translation
services
if
needed,
but
generally
we
do
have.
We
have
somebody
who
can
speak
spanish
at
the
permadesk
and
then
we
have
somebody
who
can
speak.
I'm
not
I'm.
I
don't
want
to
say
what
language
she
does
speak
other
languages
that
have
been
useful,
but
we
generally
have
used
the
city
translation
services.
If
we
need
somebody.
M
Yes,
so
in
terms
of
being
able
to
provide
sort
of
accountability
to
our
residents
and
our
constituents,
can
we
see
in
terms
of
efficiency
over
the
years?
Could
you
provide
a
list
of
the
number
of
permits
and
the
cost
that
it's
been
to
run
it
over
the
years
and
how
it's
increased?
M
If
that's
the
case,
and
by
how
much
and
in
order
to
better,
be
able
to
justify
this
and
also
a
comment
regarding
you
mentioned
handholding,
I've
heard-
and
this
is
what
I've
heard
a
number
of
times
now-
that
people
are
saying
that
inspections,
they
kind
of
laugh
at
it.
They
say
they're
virtual
and,
of
course
they
don't
mind
because
they
say
it's
much
easier
to
pass
an
inspection
but
they're
kind
of
laughing
like.
Why
are
they
still
doing
it?
This
way?
And
I
I
can
you
so
so
I've
heard
this
a
lot.
M
T
So
we've
restored
most
of
our
inspections
to
in
person
so
reinspections
that
where
the
inspector
may
have
already
did
out
to
the
site
to
see
it,
the
example
I
give
is
you
do
up
and
upgrade
your
electric
panel,
you
missed
labeling,
something
the
inspector
says
just
send
me
a
picture
of
the
labels.
Once
you
know
I've
seen
the
work
I've
seen
the
circuits,
I'm
good
just
send
me
a
picture,
so
it
saves
to
going
back
out
for
the
re-inspection,
but
all
almost
all
of
our
inspections
now
are
in
person
again.
T
We
can
talk
offline
that
should
have
been
if
it,
depending
on
the
type
it
should
have
been.
Most
inspections
are
in
person.
C
T
Okay,
customer
service
representative
for
property
standards,
we've
gotten
more
property,
maintenance,
inspection,
property
standards,
complaints
we'd
like
to
have
our
inspectors
in
the
field
more
so
having,
but
inspectors
now
for
many
years,
have
come
back
into
the
office
to
process
paperwork,
prepare
notices
of
violations
or
even
tickets
we'd
like
to
have
inspectors
in
the
field
more.
So
this
position
would
help
with
the
paperwork
for
those
positions
to
better
relay
what
what
is
happening
and
better
utilize,
our
inspection
staff.
We
also
continue
to
see
a
ride.
T
We
will
see
what
the
spring
market
holds,
but
real
estate
transfer
tax
is
a
big
piece
of
this
position
in
terms
of
checking
various
databases
to
make
sure
there's
no
outstanding
liens
or
loans
or
any
other
kind
of
debt
owed
to
the
city.
So
people,
that's
another
money,
generating
opportunity
being
able
to
process
those
in
a
timely
manner.
So
sales
do
go
through
is
a
key
piece
of
that
and
then
the
last
two
are
the
planning
and
zoning
manager
and
the
comprehensive
plan
coordinator.
T
These
are
two
positions
proposed
to
be
in
the
planning
and
zoning
division.
I
currently
serve
as
the
planning
and
zoning
division
manager
in
addition
to
the
community
development
director,
all
the
planning
and
zoning
staff
report.
To
me,
this
position
was
reclassified
previously
in
last
year's
budget
to
save
money
and
also
to
hopefully
focus
on
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
we
staffed
that
position
with
a
planner
position
this
past
spring
to
accommodate
permit
activity.
So
we're
asking
for
two
of
these
positions.
The
planning
and
zoning
manager
would
also
be
able
to
support.
Permit
activity.
T
There's
complicated
zoning
matters.
We
are
an
older
community.
We
have
challenging
zoning
matters
related
to
where
things
can
go,
how
they
can
be
positioned,
having
more
more
people
that
can
help
with
those
those
challenging
issues
would
would
help
immensely
and
then
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
comprehensive
planning
and
I've
been
talking
about
it.
You
all
have
been
talking
about
bringing
in
staff.
They
could
really
help
move
that
forward
and
accompany
the
request
for
implementation
of
this
plan.
L
Yeah,
so
for
that
customer
service
rep
for
property
standards,
but
that
person
also
didn't
take
phone
calls,
because
right
now,
along
with
permitting,
I
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls
about
whatever
thing
people
were
fined
about
or
notice
about
them,
they
call
311
and
they
go
to
a
voicemail
somewhere.
T
L
I
don't
know
that
we've
made
a
commitment
to
it,
so
I
guess
my
concern
with
that
position
is
just
because
we
have
a
person
doesn't
mean
that
this
council
is
going
to
make
a
commitment
to
it
or,
if
there's
a
comprehensive
plan,
then
we're
going
to
implement
it
so
I'll
be
a
little
hesitant
on
hiring
someone
just
to
do
one
thing
that
we
have
not
necessarily
committed
to
and
then
my
other
question
is
for
interim
manager
kelly,
because
I
thank
you
for
all
of
these,
and
I
know
we
usually
do
this.
L
L
It
okay!
So
then
I
didn't
see
that,
but
then
my
other
question
for
that
was.
L
C
Thank
you
very
much,
oh
just
hold
on
one
second,
is
that
councilmember
kelly.
M
Yeah,
so
with
regard
to
those
last
two
positions,
I
understand
it
would
those
would
help,
but
what
it
would
be,
the
problem
without
without
those
last
two
positions,
I
mean
what.
T
Well,
right
now
the
planning
and
zoning
manager
is
me.
So
when
I'm
not
here,
I
have
one
person
that
can
do
the
job,
which
is
sarah
flax.
So
I
have
you
know.
Our
bench
is
not
too
deep
in
community
development
in
terms
of
senior
leadership,
succession
planning,
all
those
things
in
terms
of
decisions
that
a
manager
would
make
questions
about
workflow.
T
I
have
eight
different
people
who
come
to
me
and
ask
me
questions
about
things
that
are
probably
more
manager
level
decisions,
I'm
happy
to
make
them.
I
appreciate
to
being
supportive
of
the
staff,
but
we
are.
We
are
adding
a
middle
manager
role
to
the
community,
the
director
role
so
there's
things
that
I
just
can't
can't
always
provide
for
the
staff.
So,
if
they're
waiting
for
something
a
decision
on
a
zoning,
a
project
or
I
want
to
review
this
letter
it,
I
can't
always
review
it
in
a
timely
manner.
T
You
know,
maybe
if
they
send
it
to
me
in
the
morning,
I
might
not
get
it
until
later
in
the
afternoon
or
even
the
next
morning.
So
there's
just
things
like
that
that
you
add
to
my
workflow,
you
you,
you
slow,
it
creates
a
bit
of
a
log
jam.
I
wish
I
could
do
more
with
less
kind
of
thing,
but
you
know
we.
We
accommodated
this
last
year
because
of
the
pandemic,
to
reduce
the
manager
to
to
reduce
the
flow
there.
T
We're
that
we're
in
a
position
where
we
need
that
manager,
because
if
somebody
has
you
have
a
resident
or
a
business
that
is
concerned
about
something
they're
with
with
the
way
a
zoning
planner
has
maybe
made
a
decision.
Their
next
step
is
me,
and
so
you
know,
there's
there's
just
a
limited
amount
of
time
that
and
we
can't
we
can't
always
be
as
responsive
as
we
want,
because
the
there's
just
not
enough
people.
C
Oh
sorry,
that
that
that,
if
you
could
come
back
that
lit
everybody
up.
W
N
Well,
I
was
just
going
to
follow
up
about
the
comprehensive
plan
coordinator
because
also
in
our
proposed
budget
document,
we've
got
500
thousand
dollars
of
arpa
revenue
loss
funding
for
the
comprehensive
and
strategic
plan
consultant
fees,
so
so
as
part
of
the
whole,
I'm
envisioning
as
part
of
our
adopting
the
budget
that
that's,
how
we're
giving
our
goal
ahead
to
actually
do
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
strategic
plan.
D
I'm
sorry
so
we
we
put
a
line
item
in
for
the
consultant,
but
this
goes
back
to
the
age-old
problem
that
once
there's
a
plan
who's
going
to
execute
the
plan.
So
this
would
contemplate
that
we
would
have
a
plan
and
then
there
would
be
someone
spearheading
that
plan.
C
So
a
bunch
of
follow-ups,
I
think,
council,
member
okay
at
the
entire
council.
I
think
councilmember
burns
has
a
separate
item.
Yeah.
C
So
I
think
on
this
we
have
council
members,
nussma,
braithwaite
and
kelly.
B
S
Thank
you,
mr
my
question
was
a
previous.
I
think
a
previous
slide
when
it
as
it
relates
to
the
free
beaches,
so
I
can
wait
until
the
appropriate
time.
C
M
So
I
just
feel
like
I-
and
I
do
want
to
continue
with
this.
I
think
it's
really
important,
because
these
are
huge
expenses
that
don't
end
after
the
arpa
money
runs
out.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
understand
these,
but
I
also
feel
that,
instead
of
like
evaluating
every
position
going
forward,
it
would
be
nice.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
set
some
sort
of
standards
on
how
we
evaluate
staff,
staffing
positions.
D
One
of
the
things
I've
noticed
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
is
that
it
appears
that
continually
this
organization
has
had
positions
cut
for
budgetary
purposes
and
the
work
has
been
distributed
among
staff,
I'm
finding
that
there's
less
efficiency.
That
way
now
there's
more
room
for
more
mistakes,
there's
more
room
for
burnout,
there's
more
room
when
people
leave.
We
have
a
critical
time
replacing
those
positions
because
of
the
amount
of
responsibilities
that
one
person
was
doing.
So
that's
one
part
of
it.
D
D
So,
for
instance,
we
could,
you
know,
fill
start
with
one
permit
service
representative
and
see
if
that's
increasing
revenue
and
decreasing
the
workload
such
that
they're
able
to
make
due
with
one
representative
before
we
fill
it
with
a
second
full-time
position.
So
I
think
one
of
the
critical
things
in
government
management
is
always
making
sure
that
the
workload
is
distributed,
but
also
that
people
are
doing
what
they
can
do
with
the
time
that
they're
here
and
so,
where
there's
inefficiencies
you
look
at
that
and
redistribute
workloads
and
you
cross
train.
D
That's
another
big
part
of
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
here
is
cross-train,
but
I'm
honest,
I'm
running
out
of
individuals
to
cross-train
with
so
we've
done
this
even
in
the
city
manager's
office,
where
we
ask
people
to
cross-train
so
cross-training
and
looking
at
metrics-
and
I
think
the
permit
desk
is-
is
a
one
really
good
example
where
we
can
actually
see
how
this
is
working.
Because
are
we
increasing
revenue
with
more
bodies
and
if
not,
then
that
would
be
a
really
clear
indicator
that
something
else
is
wrong.
L
I
remember
my
question
so
now,
looking
at
the
budget
memos
which
we're
not
in
the
packet
but
on
the
budget
page
just
for
clarification
for
people
who
are
watching,
can
we
have
a
memo
at
another
time
about
hiring,
because
I
I
feel
like
I
don't
have
the
best
memory,
but
I
feel,
like
some
departments
have
been
flat
and
some
departments
have
definitely
been
hiring,
especially
during
the
pandemic,
and
so
it'd
be
good
to
see.
Given
all
the
gaps
we
have
in
staffing,
what
departments
have
still
been?
L
You
know
hiring
people
or
you
know,
kind
of
flat,
whereas
other
departments
have
been
losing
a
lot
of
people,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
again
as
we're
as
we're
bringing
people
on
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
we
consider
and
not
just
where
the
revenue
can
come
in,
because
I
think
I
hear
as
much
about
people
feeling
like
we're
charging
more
money
for
things.
But
people
also
feel
like
the
service
level
has
declined
so
much
and
that's
not
just
at
the
permit
desk,
where
we're
bringing
in
money
that's
in
parks
and
other
places.
L
M
S
Terms
of
customer
service,
so
my
encouragement
for
new
members,
because
I'll
continue
to
do
this
is
please
reach
out
to
the
director.
So
I
would
agree
with
you:
100
percent
councilman
fleming,
just
looking
at
the
information,
but
then
also
take
advantage
of
our
experts,
who
are
in
the
room
to
talk
to
them
and
understand.
S
You
know
the
impact
to
their
department.
Not
only
have
we
lost
really
good
staff
over
the
years,
and
I
think
our
interim
city
manager
did
an
excellent
job,
but
our
staff
is
tired
and
and
the
result
of
the
lack
of
service
that
we've
seen
in
the
last
couple
years
due
to
the
pandemic,
people
are
leaving,
for
whatever
their
reasons
are.
S
Many
of
our
staff
are
overworked
and
there's
really
no
human
way
to
understand
that
unless
you
take
the
time
to
have
the
conversation,
so
I'm
going
to
encourage
as
a
council
that
we
reach
out
and
then
also
I
speak
to
the
directors.
I
know
how
challenging
is
your
day-to-day
jobs,
plus
your
managing
your
families
and
other
stuff?
S
W
It's
it's
about
a
new
position,
so
I'll
jump
in
now.
So
I
hear
a
lot
about
permits
the
permit
process.
I
hear
a
lot
about
property
standards
and
there's
a
feeling
as
though
that
we
don't
have
enough
inspectors
for
property
standards.
I
also
would
like
to
if
director
knight,
you
could
speak
to
that
issue.
W
This
is
something
that
I
I
made
a
property
standards
referral
to
comprehensively
go
over
all
of
this
that,
unfortunately,
you
know
we
haven't
made
it
to
a
committee
yet,
but
I
would
love
to
have
a
more.
You
know
robust
conversation
about
it,
but
I
hear
about
that
all
the
time
in
the
ward
and
then
the
last
question
and
I've
talked
to
staff
about
this-
is
about
a
new
position
to
help
out
with
special
bulk
pickups
again.
This
is
an
issue
on
all
sides
of
the
ward.
It's
an
issue.
W
It's
it's
an
issue
for
people
who
who,
who
correctly
make
special
boat
pickup
requests
from
the
city,
those
who
don't
we
need
to
go
out
and
make
the
pickup
and
charge
the
homeowner
you
know
per
metric
to
whatever,
however,
that
calculation
works,
so
we
need
additional
staff
for
that,
but
also
fly.
Dumping
is
a
huge
issue
in
the
fifth
ward,
and
it
also
would
allow
us
to
get
out
to
those
sites
quickly
in
the
alleys.
W
You
know
it's
people
are
bold,
they'll
they'll
I've
seen
saw
something
the
other
day
that
was
right
on
the
parkway
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
respond
to
those
those
requests
quicker
than
I
think
we're
able
to
now.
So,
if
we
could,
I
guess
the
first
question
is
for
you
and
then
maybe
directed
stone.
Backing
can
can
address.
The
second
question.
T
So
we
are
going
to
reclassify
a
current
employee,
our
sign
inspector
and
graffiti
removal
specialist
to
a
property
maintenance
inspector.
So
that's
in
the
budget
to
re
to
add
another
inspector
and
part
of
to
your
point.
T
That
particular
inspector
would
likely
be
tasked
with
mostly
exterior
because
we
get
a
lot
of
fly,
dumping,
exterior
complaints
and
that
particular
employee
would
need
very
little
training
to
know
where
things
are
and
continue
with
some
of
the
sign
the
sign
code
violations,
but
also
deal
with,
do
it
deal
with
the
issues
of
fly,
dumping
and
and
just
general
exterior
complaints
that
lead
to
other
complaints
like
rats
and
and
overflowing
garbage,
so
there's
sort
of
that
nexus
between
health,
public
works
and
community
development
for
complaints.
T
So
that's
we
do
hear
you
on
that,
so
we
were
going
to
reclassify
them
graffiti
removal
would
now
be
handled
by
public
works.
They
would
they
would
take
that
on
because
right
now
we
have
one
person
in
community
development
who
handles
graffiti
removal
and
when
he's
out
we
often
send
those
requests
to
public
works
or
parks
and
rec
depending
on
what
the
type
or
the
location
is.
So
it
just
makes
sense
to
have
that
in
one
department
versus
multiple
departments.
W
C
And
councilor
kelly.
M
I
was
just
going
back
to
some
of
the
positions
up
here,
so
these
are
nice
starting
salaries.
Not
that,
I
don't
think
probably
everybody
would
do
any
of
those
jobs
isn't
worth
much
more
than
that,
but
so
I'm
just
curious
what
the
like,
who
would
address
this
they're
like
hundred
thousand
again.
F
But
I'm
sorry
sure
that
was
with
benefits.
That's
not
the
same.
Q
M
X
Y
Good
evening,
members
of
the
council
mayor,
biss
city
manager,
gandersky
clerk,
mendoza,
edgar
cano,
acting
director
of
public
works
agency.
Yes,
mr
councilmember
burns
is,
as
you
mentioned,
we
are
definitely
short
in
our
rem
department,
recycling,
enviro,
environmental
maintenance
departments.
We
would
love
additional
personnel
in
order
to
collect
those
special
pickups.
We
are
falling
behind
on
special
pickups
and
fly
dumps
which
have
been
increasing
throughout
the
city.
Y
In
order
to
do
that,
we
do
believe
that
we
would
need
two
additional
staff
members
and
an
additional
vehicle
in
order
to
appropriately
traverse
the
city
to
make
sure
to
pick
that
up.
It's
on
our
mind,
it's
something
that
we
want
to
do
again.
We're
just
liking
the
resources.
In
order
to
do
it
right
now,.
W
R
Okay,
so
the
first
position
is
the
request
for
recreation
manager
and
and
currently
so
that
you
all
understand
how
we're
structured.
I
have
three
buildings
currently
that
hasn't
have
no
manager.
I
got
four
buildings
that
do
those
buildings
are
levy,
rubber,
crown,
fleetwood,
jordan
and
I'm
not
forgetting
dude
trying
to
crown
ain't.
No,
no,
no,
no
yeah,
I'm
ecology!
R
Those
three
facilities
just
end
up
reporting
to
the
the
assistant
director
position
or
myself
for
it,
and
so
the
first
position
you
see
there
is
a
recreation
manager
to
manage
those
three
buildings.
Noise
is
operated
as
a
leasing
facility,
as
all
you
know,
but
there
are
also
requirements
with
the
tenant
association
in
terms
of
managing
their
community
service
hours
right.
R
We
have
nobody,
we
do
it
being
like
out
of
my
office,
but
there
isn't.
You
know
we
need
someone
to
hold
our
tenants
accountable
on
a
more
consistent
basis
in
terms
of
that
in
terms
of
managing
noise.
R
As
far
as
chandler
neuberger
center,
the
management
of
chandler
has
bounced
around
over
my
last
five
and
a
half
years
here.
It
will
go
to
a
manager
with
another
building.
Then
we
pull
it
out,
we'll
send
it.
You
know,
or
someone
leaves
or
retire
when
I
first
got
here,
chandler
had
its
own
manager
and
the
position
was
cut,
and
so
because
of
that,
we've
been
moving
it
back
and
forth
to
the
manager
with
the
skill
set
who
can
take
on
more
ability.
R
So
this
is
a
great
example
of
doing
more,
with
less
you
had
a
manager
of
a
building
that
person
retires,
would
now
cut
the
position,
and
so
the
responsibilities
fall
on
someone
who's
left.
Who
has
the
the
talent
to
do
so,
and
you
know
what
you
end
up
with
and
what
you
have
been
over
the
last
four
years.
R
Is
you
know,
someone
at
the
director
or
assistant
director
level
scheduling
custodians
to
work?
Someone
call
in
we
are
at
the
very
grassroots
level
of
just
trying
to
provide
the
service,
and
so
we
would
need
a
manager.
This
position
would
also
pick
up
some
of
those
responsibilities,
as
well
as
managing
the
future
usage
of
gibbs
morrison
right
now.
R
Gibbs
is
just
primarily
a
rental
spot
when
we
can
find
custodians
to
work,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to,
if
the
decision
for
us
is
to
move
forward
with
re,
engaging
reintroducing
gibbs
as
a
more
active
facility,
this
also
could
fall
under
that
position.
So
that's
the
first
manager.
The
second
is
a
lakefront
manager.
For
many
many
years
the
lakefront
had
its
own
manager,
it
had
a
lakefront
coordinator
and
then
it
also
had
an
assistant
director
that
all
of
the
lakefront
operations
reported
to.
R
When
I
arrived,
we
we
only
had
a
assistant
director
when
I
got
here,
there
was
two
assistant
directors,
one
of
them
was
eliminated,
and
so
what
happened
is
the
management
of
the
lakefront
again
falls
to
who
is
left,
and
so
we
had
talented
staff
who
could
take
on
the
responsibilities.
R
But
besides
the
investigation,
we
need
someone
focused
on
the
lakefront
year-round,
whether
it's
training,
prepping
training,
updating
our
lakefront
operational
manuals,
everything
associated
with
it,
the
closeout
aspects
right
now
that
we're
dealing
with
and
trying
to
get
our
boaters
and
those
who
store
their
non-motorized
boats
with
us
during
this
time
of
year
trying
to
get
all
of
that
finalized
during
this
time
of
year,
as
well
as
prepping
every
single
year.
The
opening
and
management
of
the
lakefront.
R
This
position
up
until
the
early
2010s
was
a
regular
position
in
the
budget.
It
was
eliminated,
got
moved
to
an
assistant
director
that
position
got
eliminated
and
we
are
where
we
are
today
custodian
one
for
multiple
buildings.
It's
just
like
right
now
I
am,
I
am
juggling
bodies
from
building
a
building.
I
have
a
person
currently
at
levy
who's
man,
who's,
trying
to
keep
the
building
clean
at
levy
and
run
over
to
the
ecology
center.
R
It's
just
not
an
efficient
way,
but
it's
all
we
have.
We
don't
have
enough
bodies
and
we're
asking
for
a
full-time
custodian
to
help
us
keep
both
facilities
optimally
clean.
We
have
reached
a
point
in
our
department
where
our
custodians
and
our
facilities
supervisors
are
the
ones
who
kind
of
deal
with
rentals
when
buildings
are
rented
or
at
evening
ward
meeting
or
things
of
that
nature.
R
We,
we
obviously
accommodate
award
meetings,
but
we
have
stopped
taking
rentals
because
I
don't
have
enough
bodies
or
people
to
come
in
and
work
on
a
saturday
sundays
to
manage
these
rentals.
We
need
more
people
and
because
we
have
just
continued
to
cut,
and
so
it's
not
just
been
at
the
management
level
over
the
years.
We've
also
equally
cut
at
our
custodial
level,
and
it
has
reached
a
breaking
point
for
us,
and
so
we,
you
know
you
talked
earlier
council
member
kelly
about
revenues
with
my
colleague.
R
We
are
not
taking
any
rentals
and
now
we're
losing
revenue,
because
we
don't
have
bodies
to
come
in
whether
it's
at
levy,
whether
it's
at
chandler,
it
doesn't
matter
where
that's
across
the
board.
So
these
additional
custodial
positions
will
assist
us
to
one
maintain
the
facilities
with
the
covet
standards
that
are
currently
in
place
and
to
put
us
in
a
position
to
accommodate
some
of
the
weekend
activities.
R
We
are
just
in
dire
needs
of
additional
staff
to
continue
to
accommodate
that
and
without
the
staff
we
won't
be
able
to
continue
to
accept
those
rentals
and
then,
and
so
that
kind
of
goes
to
the
part-time
custodians
at
crown
as
well,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
crown,
but
crown
just
we
need
more.
R
R
Our
zamboni
process
is
very
easy
to
get
on
the
zamboni
machine
drive
and
do
an
ice
cup.
Probably
a
good
zamboni
driver
to
do
that
in
an
eight
to
ten
minute
time
frame
what
people
don't
see
and
then
it
takes
20
minutes
in
the
back
of
the
house
to
dump
the
tanks
refill,
the
water
that
goes
in
there
and
the
water
spigot
that
we
have
to
fill
the
zamboni
machines
very
slow.
R
R
So
if
we
got
just
somebody
who
focused
on
zamboni
driving,
you
know
to
some
degree
again,
it
frees
up
more
custodial
style
to
meet
the
covet
cleaning
standards
to
keep
the
building
addressed
in
terms
of
serving
especially
in
the
evenings,
getting
the
buildings
flipped
over
one
activity
to
another.
R
And
so
we
really
believe
these
will
be
the
positions
to
help
us
be
a
little
more
efficient,
operationally
and
also
meet
the
needs
of
those
positions.
That's
been
cut
over
the
years.
M
R
Didn't
run
aquatics
count
because
when
we
started
the
beach
season,
the
beach
at
greenwood
was
extreme.
It
was
minimal,
as
the
season
summer
went
on,
the
water
receded
some
and
we
got
more
at
the
beach.
We
opened
that
beach
up.
I
want
to
say
second
week
of
july
and
made
it
more.
You
know
so
we
had
that
beach,
but
the
aquatics
camp
runs
out
of
greenwood
beach.
That's
the
location,
we
need
to
run
aquatic
scout
and
right
now
we
have
greenwood
beach
to
operate.
R
R
We
need
to
focus
the
green,
the
aquatics
camp
area
in
the
greenwood
space,
so
that
you're
not
mixing
the
two
and
that's
the
reason
why
we
didn't
open
it
because
again
there
just
wasn't
enough
sand
to
operate
at
the
beginning
of
the
season,
but.
R
When
I
say
rentals,
I'm
talking
about
the
rental,
our
boat
rentals,
we
we
did
almost
400
over
400
boat
slip.
Right,
I
mean
both.
L
R
L
And
all
that
that's
correct,
but
I'm
trying
to
you
know
understand
so
for
30
minutes
per
sheet
of
ice.
We
have
two
and
a
half
sheets
of
ice
there,
two
sheets,
two
okay,
two!
So
even
less.
How
many
times
are
we
doing
the
zamboni
that
somebody's
working
30
hours
a
week
or
are
they
doing
other
stuff
zamboni.
R
We're
doing
it
we're
cutting
it
ice
every
hour,
so
once
the
one
activity
finishes
you
go
in
and
you
recut
the
ice
before
the
next
activity
come
on,
and
so
literally,
what
you
have
is
a
position:
who's,
basically
dealing
with
ice
cuts,
who
can't
go
clean
bathrooms
or
can't
go
clean.
The
spill
when
an
emergency
happens
because
they're
concentrating
on
the
ice
cuts.
L
B
R
You
know
way
more
than
that,
but
I'm
asking
for
this
as
a
minimum
to
help
us
during
those
peak
hours
specifically
in
the
evening
so
and
when
I
have
more
more
people
in
the
building,
so
that
we
got
somebody
who
can
focus
on
ice
cuts
after
each
hour.
But
I
also
now
have
freed
up
the
staff
because
the
staff
that's
currently
doing
it
are
also
the
ones
who
got
to
go.
Do.
L
R
There
are
exp,
you
know
so,
like
you
know.
Obviously
there
are
experienced
people,
but
yes,
there
are
folks
who
pr
you
can
probably
be
trained
to
run
a
zambo.
Not
probably
you
can
be
trained
to
run
a
zamboni.
We
have
our
current
structure
of
facility
workers.
There
all
have
been
trained,
they
didn't
all
walk
in
the
door
with
zamboni
experience.
AA
Yes,
thank
you
director,
so
for
the
zamboni
driver,
picking
up
on
where
council
member
fleming
was
I'm
sorry,
so
the
83
000
number
is
that
for
the
full
2.25
full-time
equivalent
or
is
that
per
person.
R
AA
R
Excuse
me
pointing
so
just
trying
to
just
make
sure
one
sheet
of
ice
so
you're
on
the
machine
for
10
minutes.
Take
another
20
minutes
to
get
the
machine
ready
or
swap
it
out
or
whatever,
and
then
you
go
do
the
other.
So
it's
really
about
an
hour
and
I'm
estimating
you
know
a
really
good
person.
If
you
don't
use
all
the
water,
you
know
you
can
do
it
in
probably
45
minutes
first
an
hour,
but
you
understand
it.
Average
is
taking
us
about
20
minutes
behind
the
house
to
get
the
machine
prepped.
R
Depending
on,
if
you're
a
resident,
let
me
make
sure
I
say
this
correct,
I
don't
want
to
misquote
you.
Let
me
just
look
it
up.
It's
on
the
website.
I
want
to
say
it
is
400
and
400
an
hour
for
some
folks
and
like
people
with
our
agreements.
They
got
set
rates.
It
may
be
350
for
evanston
residents
and
then
400
for.
R
Northwesterns
it's
400
an
hour.
Cyha
is
425
an
hour.
Our
own
evanston
group,
I
want
to
say,
is
350
an
hour,
so
it
it
varies.
But
northwestern
is
you
know.
C
C
W
R
Or
how
is
that
I
mean?
If
imagine
you
know,
ice
skates
is
a
blade.
Those
blades
are
creating
cuts
along
within
the
ice.
So
what
happens?
The
zamboni
comes.
It
drops
water
that
is
currently
spread
evenly
through
over
the
ice
so
that
the
ice
can
re-freeze
level
at
a
level
perspective.
So
it
is
a
safety
issue.
R
R
Y
Good
evening
again,
edgar
cano
acting
public
works
agency
director.
The
first
position
we're
asking
for
is
a
forestry
crew
leader.
The
forestry
is
tasked
with
maintaining
over
32
000
public
trees.
As
I'm
sure,
a
lot
of
you
are
aware,
we're
having
a
lot
of
storm
damage
and
a
lot
of
other
just
damage
from
winter
precipitation
and
things
of
that
matter.
So
we're
asking
for
a
crew
leader
to
be
able
to
handle
the
25
to
30.
Excuse
me,
the
20
to
25
requests,
311
requests
that
we're
getting
per
day.
Y
A
lot
of
those
requests
are
inspections.
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
our
field
staff
isn't
properly
trained
in
to
perform
those
inspections.
So
there's
only
a
few
certified
arborists
within
our
division.
We're
asking
for
another
forestry
crew
leader
also,
hopefully
be
a
certified
arborist.
In
order
to
be
able
to
handle
a
lot
of
these
inspections
as
far
as
equipment
operator
for
streets
go,
the
streets
division
is
handles
the
alley:
sidewalk
maintenance,
street
maintenance
of
the
city.
It's
also
a
pretty
much
a
catch-all
for
all
the
other
departments.
Y
So,
as
director
knighton
stated,
whenever
graffiti
removal
needs
assistance,
we
step
up.
We
assist,
or
is
the
streets
department,
steps
up
and
they
assist
same
thing
with
animal
control
as
far
as
picking
up
dead
animals.
Unfortunately,
we
also
have
to
assist
with
that
as
well.
So
as
far
as
equipment
operator
2,
the
streets
division
has
lost
three
positions
within
the
last
five
years,
because
of
that
we're
really
feeling
those
effects.
Y
Our
alley
cutouts
have
dropped
from
18
to
12,
that's
about
33
percent
reduction
and
also
we've
also
reduced
our
asphalt
pavement
maintenance
in-house
by
over
40
percent
again,
just
because
we
do
not
have
the
field
staff
to
be
able
to
accomplish
those
goals
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
the
full-time
arborist
that
we're
asking
for.
That
would
be
if
the
tree
preservation
ordinance
passes.
Y
Well,
we're
going
to
be
expecting
an
influx
of
permits
over
400,
again
we're
going
to
need
a
certified
arborist
to
be
in-house
to
be
able
to
take
care
and
go
over
all
of
those
permits
and
the
forestry
tree
services
contractual
services
right
now.
The
forestry
department
also
assists
with
our
snow
and
ice
operations
so
because
of
that
and
the
heavy
winters
that
we've
been
having
recently
we're
not
able
to
do
the
dormant
season
cutting
we're
asking
for
this.
C
Questions
go.
S
Ahead
customer,
thank
you,
mr,
so
your
position
has
changed
with
dave's
position
being
elevated
who's
going
to
be
responsible,
just
as
we
we're
not
there
yet,
but
he's
going
to
be
responsible
for
for
snow
and
everything
that
I'm.
B
A
question
about
the
arborist
position:
this
is
related
to
the
tree
preservation
ordinance,
which
has
not
yet
been
passed
right.
If
we
do
pass
an
ordinance,
is
there
any
revenue
that
we
would
expect
to
bring
in
from
private
private
residents
paying
to
pay
paying
for
a
permit
to
have
a
tree
removed.
Y
Yeah,
unfortunately,
I
do
not
have
that
information
again.
I
just
stepped
up
into
this
role,
I'm
not
sure
if
deputy
city
manager,
stoneback
or
director
knight
will
be
able
to
speak
to
that.
T
I
was
quickly
trying
to
pull
up
the
memo.
As
you
were
asking
that
question.
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
do
that,
but
we
can
send
that
in
a
budget
memo.
Yes,
the
it
was
contemplated
that
if
somebody
is
going
to
remove
a
tree
out
of,
I
think,
a
certain
species
that
we
would
be.
We
would
be
asking
for
some
kind
of
payment
for
that.
B
L
L
Ride
their
bikes,
so
I
you
know,
I'm
just
not
a
tree
person,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
we
have
to
have
the
trees.
I
know
they
serving
them.
You
know
environmental
people
call
me
tomorrow,
however,
people
need
to
drive
their
cars
and
ride
their
bikes
and
cross
the
street,
and
we
still
have
the
same
issue
with
snow,
which
is
when
we
plow
the
streets.
We
pack
all
the
snow
along
the
sidewalks
and
then
people,
particularly
those
who
are
disabled.
L
You
know
pushing
strollers
everything
else
can't
get
down
the
sidewall
because
there's
so
what?
What
are
we
doing
about
that
like?
Where
is
that
in
the
budget?
AB
Y
Thing
sure
thing-
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
mention
as
far
as
the
streets
department
equipment
operator
too,
so
the
streets
primary
focus
in
the
winter
time
is
the
snow
and
ice
control
and
removal.
So
by
adding
this
one
position,
it
will
help
our
efficiency
in
our
operations
and
it
will
also
limit
us
from
having
to
go
to
other
other
divisions
to
ask
for
personnel
by
at
least
you
know,
one
additional
person.
Z
Y
Unfortunately,
right
now
we
haven't
included
anything
in
order
to
buy
that
equipment,
but
I
mean
it's
definitely
something
that
we're
looking
at
and
I
mean
if
the
funds
are
there,
we're
more
than
happy
to
go
out
and
and
look
for
the
equipment
that
we
need
so.
L
Is
there
a
thought
around
this
arborist,
since
this
tree
preservation
ordinance
hasn't
even
passed
yet
or
even
the
first
year
if
it
does
pass
of
having
a
part-time
arborist
and
then
using
some
of
that
money
for
things
that
are
more
practical,
like
snow
removal
or
equipment
for
snow
removal
or
something?
And
it
just
you
know,
we
know
it's
going
to
snow.
We
know
snow
gets
worse
and
worse.
We
know
every
year
we
have
this
complaint,
some
of
which
are
not
feasible,
but
people
should
you
know,
be
able
to
particularly
think
about
our
seniors.
L
Mr
sutton
is
always
here
talking
about
shoveling
out
his
driveway
and
then
he
comes
outside
and
our
plows
have
plowed
him
back
in
again
I
mean
it
seems
to
be
that
I
would
like
us
to
move
in
a
way
that
again
talking
about
those
services.
People
expect
that
we're
getting
closer
to
that
and
not
doing
as
much
response
to
people
who
have
these
other
interests
that
maybe
don't
serve
everybody
in
the
community.
L
Y
L
Q
W
You
know
I
don't
know
how
often
this
happens,
but
just
one
story
and
director
callahan
was
the
one
that
ultimately
went
out
to
to
inspect
this
tree.
But
the
fifth
floor
resident
is
not
the
owner
of
the
home.
She
stays
in
an
award
asked
if
we
could
send
somebody
out
to
inspect
a
tree.
W
It
was
a
a
tree
that
had
big
mushrooms
coming
out
the
end,
which
was
an
indic
in
indicated
that
indication
that
the
tree
may
be
on
its
way
to
fall
in
and
and
needs
to
be
removed,
michael
calan,
that
both
parties,
who
are
the
owners
have
had,
I
think,
received
conflicting
opinions
and
michael
callahan
was
able
to
come
out
and
say
yeah
if
this
was
on
my
property.
I'd
get
it
out
of
here
when
we
had
that
big
storm
that
tree
fell
down
on
the
home
and
the
the
tenant
was
that's.
W
What
they
were
concerned
about
is
that
this
tree
is
is
is
damaged
to
the
point
where
it
will
fall.
You
know
she
had
a
a
elderly
parent
in
the
home
and
was
concerned
that
the
tree
would
fall,
and
it
did
so
just
going
to
your
point
about
councilman
flynn
about
service.
I
I
do
think
there
is
a
service
we're
providing
with
going
out,
in
particular,
with
trees
that
are
old
and
damaged,
making
sure
that
they're,
safe
and
they're
not
going
to
fall
in
homes
or
people
or
cars,
etc.
W
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that's
what
that
position
would
do
because,
right
now
our
director
showed
up
to
do
that
call
and
it
wasn't.
You
know,
an
employee,
another
staff
person
that
was
able
to
go
out
and
do
it
and
I'm
not
sure
how
much
of
it
of
that
we're
able
to
do
with
limited
staff
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
was
clear
on
that.
Thank
you.
L
Would
our
forestry
crew
leader
also
do
that?
Because
you
mentioned
the
forestry
crew
leader,
you
would
hope
to
find
maybe
an
arborist
for
that
position
right,
correct
right.
So
right
now
we
have
michael
and
the
four
guys
work
to
the
bone.
So
I
do
think
we
need
another
tree
expert
arborist.
I
mean
I
guess
my
concern
is
we
have
this
force
of
tree
leader
who
you
would
hope
to
be
an
arborist
or
someone
who
can
care
for
trees,
and
then
we
have
a
position
on
here.
That
is
literally
just
related
to
one
ordinance.
Y
Y
We
would
like
to
dedicate
that
one
just
to
improve
our
tree
canopy
here,
our
public
one
as
far
as
the
one
for
the
tree
preservation
when
they're
not
assisting
if
they
don't
have
any
permits.
If
that
ever
happens,
they
would
obviously
be
able
to
help
us
take
care
of
our
of
our
other
trees.
W
Okay,
go
ahead.
I
was
just
wanted
to
confirm
so
we're
still
toward
a
few
months
ago
or
a
month
ago
I
saw
a
lot
of
folks
from
that
were
doing
tree
trimming
and
other
tree
maintenance
in
the
ward,
and
then
I
stopped
after
the
storm
we're
still
working
on
cleaning
up
from
the
storm
making.
You
know,
where
are
we
at
right
now
with
that.
Y
W
Comes
in
and
we're
back
to
where
we
just
want
to
add
that
that
again,
part
of
climate,
climate
action
is
with
additional
severe
storms,
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
trees,
falling
down
old
trees
and
evanston
falling
down.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
that
they
weren't,
even
they
were
in
the
fifth
ward,
doing
some
really
good
work,
maintaining
trees
in
an
area
that
had
been
historically
overlooked
and
then
this
big
storm
hit.
W
D
L
All
right,
this
is
my
last
point
because
I
feel
like
everyone
is
making
me
out
to
be
like
the
person,
because
I
don't
give
a
damn
about
trees.
The
issue
here
for
me
is
that
trees
are
important
and
we
had
tree
city
usa
a
thousand
times,
and
I
get
that,
but
when
you
have
seniors
who
cannot
walk
down
our
streets
because
our
snowplows
come
and
shovel
them
in
on
the
corners.
It
is
an
issue,
and
so
I
think
as
much
as
we
care
about
trees-
and
I
get
your
point
with
climate
change.
L
Climate
change
also
is
impacting
us
having
these
very
severe
winters,
and
if
we
continue
to
tell
people,
please
show
rusher,
hydrants
and
all
these
things,
but
we
come
behind
them
and
plow
them
in
and
we
know
it's
freezing
I
mean
we
just
are
not
setting
up
a
good
quality
of
living
and
everyone
doesn't
drive
so
people
just
as
much
as
we
pay
attention
to
cars.
We
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
sidewalks
and
people.
L
I
mean
I
think
we
have
to
really
be
mindful
the
quality
of
life,
and
that
involves
snow
removal
in
the
way
in
which
we
can
do
it,
and
I
hear
all
the
time
as
we
all
do
about
skogy
and
how
great
they're
about
plowing
their
sidewalks,
I'm
not
getting
us
to
that
standard.
But
I
think
that
there's
a
way
in
which
we
can
spend
some
money.
That
again,
is
not
just
for
tree
gear,
but
it's
for
quality
of
life
and
snow
and
edgar,
and
I
had
this
conversation
a
million
times.
Y
No
but
but
I
do
want
to
mention
again,
we
do
not
plow
the
or
excuse
me.
We
do
not
shovel
the
sidewalks.
Just
excuse
me
to
private
property.
Another
thing.
Y
Right
well,
I
do
also
want
to
mention
that,
even
though,
if
we
do
get
extra
personnel
and
extra
equipment,
I
do
want
to
set
that
expectation
that
that
will
still
happen
on
some
occasion,
not
only
on
the
crosswalks,
but
also
in
the
driveway
aprons.
I
was
just
at
a
snow
conference
last
thursday,
where
I
mean
this
is
an
issue
that
every
municipality
is
having.
Y
C
Great
thank
you
very
much.
Let's
move
on
to
the
next.
K
K
Go
ahead,
this
is
the
end
of
the
position
list
and
I
just
want
to
underscore
a
couple
items:
one
that
department
directors
have
completed
memos
on
all
of
the
positions
that
you've
seen
that
you've
heard
about
those
are
available
on
the
budget
website
or
sorry
on
the
budget
page
of
the
city's
website,
and
they
were
emailed
to
council
as
well
when
we
first
sent
out
the
proposed
budget.
K
Second,
all
of
these
requests
for
budget
memos
that
you've
been
throwing
out
tonight
that
you've
been
hearing
your
colleagues
say:
I've
been
tracking
those
as
well
and
we
will
work
with
staff
to
get
those
completed
and
and
published
in
a
timely
manner
as
well,
so
know
that
we
are
tracking
those
too.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
Next,
we'll
have
council
member
revel
followed
by
when.
N
Well,
I
just
I'm
glad
that
kate
mentioned
that
the
memo
from
staff
that's
on
our
on
the
website.
It
is
definitely
worth
reading.
It's
really
full
of
wonderful
detail
about
why
why
the
various
positions
are
being
requested,
and
I
I
wish
a
lot
of
our
residents-
would
read
it
because
then
they'd
understand
why
it
was
taking
a
long
time
to
get
their
parkway
tree
trimmed
or
why
it
was
taking
a
long
time
to
get
their
permit.
AA
C
I
believe
we've
completed
the
description
of
of
requested
new
positions.
AA
C
What
I
have
here
is
council
member
wynn,
followed
by
a
new
smith,
followed
by
reed.
Are
there
others
and
then
anyone
else
is.
S
That
good,
I
had
a
question
regarding
the
750
for
the
beaches.
C
Okay,
so
I
have
win,
newsma
read
braithwaite
and
if
there's
others
just
feel
free
to
switch
on
your
lights,
but
let's
go
ahead
with
councilmember
when.
U
I
it's
just
a
brief
request
for
staff.
I
I
think
that
it's
also
useful
for
the
new
council
members
and
actually
everyone
who's
on
the
council
to
possib,
to
read
last
year's
budget
memos
as
well
to
understand
how
we
are
where
we
are
right
now
are
those
available
kate
are
they?
Is
that
the
line
that
I'm
seeing
here
on
the
website.
U
C
That's
great,
thank
you.
Councilmember
new
smith,
followed
by
read
and
then
breathe
right.
B
B
So
I
would
like
to
talk
about
the
sustainability
department
and
they
talk
a
little
bit
about
carp
and
environmental
justice,
and
I
do
think
that
the
budget
memo
and
the
budget
process
that
we
have
in
front
of
this
in
front
of
us
tonight
was
it's
a
lot
of
work,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
kate
and
hitesh,
for
bringing
us
this
far
understanding
that
this
is
just
the
you
know
the
first
night
we're
discussing
this,
and
it's
going
to
take
us
a
couple
months
to
sort
through
this.
B
Fortunately,
we
have
cara
pratt
who
joined
us
last
week
two
weeks
ago,
so
we
are
yeah,
we're
turning
the
corner,
we're
going
to
be
heading
in
the
right
direction
and
and
cara
is
going
to
be
able
to
jump
into
the
deep
end
here
and
get
some
work
done.
You
know
we
did
in
last
year's
budget
process.
Carp.
Implementation
was
kind
of
highlighted
in
several
different
points
at
several
different
points.
B
It
was
listed
as
a
city
council
goal
and
we
don't
have
that
structure
in
our
budget
process
this
year,
so
that
kind
of
as
a
sidebar
underscores
the
need
for
us
to
do
a
comprehensive
plan,
a
strategic
plan
that
will
allow
us
to
refresh
our
city
council
goals,
refresh
our
community
goals
and
allow
us
to
have
this
kind
of
conversation
with
some
priorities
already
having
been
identified.
B
B
There
are
a
number
of
performance
measures
listed
and
I'm
pleased
that
carp
is
very
clearly
addressed
in
one
of
these
one
of
these
performance
measures.
I
don't
at
all
like
the
content
of
of
how
it's
expressed.
I
like
the
fact
that
the
idea
is
at
least
there
so
yeah.
I
will
follow
up
on
that
in
a
budget
memo,
I
suppose
or
an
offline
conversation,
but
I
I
I
like
the
fact
that,
at
least
in
the
city
manager's
office
carp
was
addressed
as
a
performance
measurement.
B
I
want
to
make
sure
we
can
implement
a
a
more
reasonable
and
accurate
metric.
B
D
Yes,
miss
lewis
lincoln,
do
you
have
the
breakdown.
B
Right,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we're
not
losing
sustainability
in
the
mix,
because
it's
spread
too
thin.
I
do
want
to
have
a
focus
on
sustainability.
Having
said
that,
sustainability
is
not
just
one
project
and
everything
else
is
separate.
Sustainability,
carpal
implementation,
environmental
justice,
climate
action
is
a
lens
through
which
decisions
should
be
evaluated
at
every
level
of
the
organization
and
we're
starting
to
see
that
happen
here.
B
The
the
the
the
capital
plan
really
takes
a
deep
dive
into
carp,
as
it
should
so
you
know
thank
you
laura
for
doing
that.
We'll
talk
more
about
that
later,
affordable
housing.
We
have
the
lot
one
project
going
in
on
south
boulevard.
Carp
was
like
built
into
that,
and
so
that
kind
of
thing
is
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
are
you
know,
budgeting
ourselves
and
aligning
the
management
of
the
city
to
focus
on
on
climate
action
and
carp.
B
I
talked
briefly
about
doing
a
carp
implementation
plan,
an
environmental
justice
implementation
plan
as
part
of
that
strategic
plan
or
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
I'm
I'm
very
pleased
if,
if
that
were
to
be
the
case,
I
don't
want
to
you
know
short
change,
the
specific
attention
on
carp
and
ej,
because
that's
those
are
in
and
of
themselves
pretty
massive.
So
this
comprehensive
plan
is
going
to
be
fairly
comprehensive.
B
It's
in
the
title-
I
guess
yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
we
can.
We
can
I'm
glad
we
can
take
advantage
of
arpa
money
and
move
ourselves
in
the
right
direction.
There.
B
I'm
also
concerned
that
we
are
not
setting
ourselves
up
by
spending
arpa
money
on
carp,
implementation
setting
ourselves
up
to
just
you
know,
run
into
a
cliff
or
run
off
the
cliff
in
a
few
years
when
urban
money
runs
out.
So
on
an
ongoing
basis.
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
focused
on
carp
implementation,
and
that
includes
looking
for
sources
of
funding.
Just
as
one
idea
you
know,
perhaps
we
could
direct
the
nikkor
franchise
fee
into
a
climate
action
fund.
B
B
So
I
have,
I
think,
I've
said
my
piece
on
carp
and
environmental
justice.
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
focused
on
those
during
this
process
for
budgeting
this
year.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
beaches.
I
want
to
talk
about
crossing
guards.
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
public
safety,
so
I'll
defer
to
the
mayor
as
to
how
best
to
handle
the
conversation
here.
C
B
Okay,
beaches:
I
am
of
the
position
that
we
should
make
the
beaches
of
evanston
free
to
evanston
residents,
seven
days
a
week
last
summer.
That's
the
commitment
that
we
made
at
one
of
our
first
council
meetings,
this
this
session
of
of
the
city
council
and
that
back
in
may,
or
maybe
it
was
early
june,
so
beaches
free
all
summer
long,
seven
days
a
week
crossing
guards
as
a
taxpayer.
B
So
in
a
sense
it
really
doesn't
matter
as
a
city
council
member.
However,
I
would
be
very
happy
if
we
have
that
money
to
spend
on
other
stuff,
so
I'll
defer
that
discussion
to
you
know
to
the
appropriate
committee
and
trust
that
they
will
handle
that
issue
properly
and
then
in
terms
of
public
safety.
B
I
guess
I
have
a
question-
I'm
not
sure
who's
the
right
person
to
answer
it,
but
I
was
hoping
that
we
would
have
some
actionable
recommendations
from
the
mayor's
committee
to
reimagine
public
safety
that
we
could
consider
as
we
talk
about
our
budget
for
next
year.
So,
mr
mayor,
can
you
speak
to
that.
C
I
think
it's
not
impossible
that
that
would
occur
during
the
course
of
this
budget
cycle.
The
reimagining
public
safety
committee
is
broken
into
three
working
groups.
C
I
think
two
of
those
working
groups
are
close
to
having
recommendations,
and
one
of
those
two
red
sets
of
recommendations
is
likely
to
have
budgetary
impact
that
would
be
from
the
violence,
prevention
and
violence
interruption
working
group,
but
at
this
time
I
I
just
give
that
high
level
status
report
and
say
there's
a
good
chance,
but
no
certainty
that
that
would.
B
Complete
on
that
time
frame,
okay,
I
would
certainly
welcome
that
input
if
we're
talking
about
our
public
safety
budget,
I'm
being
kind
of
pulled
in
two
different
directions:
on
the
one
hand,
similar
to
what
we've
seen
here,
a
shortage
in
manpower
person,
power
that
I
have.
B
I
have
felt
that
in
conversations
with
the
police
department
that
they
don't
have
enough
manpower
to
to
do
what
we
are
asking
them
to
do.
On
the
other
hand,
looking
at
our
budget
documents
in
our
packet,
if
we
look
at
our
city
of
evanston's
ratio
of
you
know
of
police
officers
per
capita,
we
are
relatively
high,
so
that
points
perhaps
in
a
different
direction.
So
I
I
don't
have
any
answers.
I'm
just
asking
questions
at
this
point
and
would
hope
that
that
committee
would
be
able
to
help
help
me
answer
some
of
those.
C
Thank
you.
So
we
go
to
council
member
reed,
followed
by
braithwaite,
followed
by
kelly.
AA
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
number
of
questions.
I
guess,
since
it's
a
topic,
that's
come
up
I'll
start
with
the
beaches
and
director
hemingway.
Yes,
so
one
I
I
just
am
you
know
that
we're
still
in
the
early
stages,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
accurate
as
we're
moving
through
this,
because
150
250
000
could
make
a
huge
difference
or
it
could
make
a
substantial
difference
in
our
discussions
and
where
we
move.
So
I'm
curious.
How
did
I
see
the
number
750
000?
AA
My
estimate
would
be
about
150
to
200
000
less
than
that
if
we
made
beaches
free
just
for
evanston
residents,
so
I
guess
I
want
to
get
a
bit
of
clarification
one.
What
is
the
revenue
that
we've
received
this
year
with
the
three
free
days
for
evanston
residents?
And
then
you
know,
how
did
you
get
to
this
750
000
number.
R
Sure,
thank
you,
sir.
If
you
all
look
at
the
budget
memos
there's
a
memo
in
there.
That
shows
you.
The
actual
revenues
received
this
year
total,
which
takes
into
account
the
the
budget
memo
has
all
the
revenues
that's
generated
off
of
our
beach
sales,
so.
S
V
R
Just
where
does
750
so
in
terms
of
revenues
that
you
see
in
front
of
you,
we
were
able
with
this
this
year's
program,
we
still
generated
923
dollars
off
of
beach
sales
that
includes
tokens
and
daily
passes
total
residents
and
non-residents.
R
That's
our
total
sales
of
revenue
off
beaches
in
the
parks
and
rec
budget
for
beaches,
which
has
more
than
just
sales
of
of
beach
tokens
and
in
in
dailies.
We
have
a
1.2
million
dollar
number
in
our
budget.
All
we
did
so
the
750
thousand
dollars.
We
took
a
conservative
approach
in
trying
to
if,
if
beaches
are
made
free,
we
will
estimate
estimatedly,
just
you
know,
lose
about
750
000
dollars
based
based
off
that
1.2
million.
R
AA
I'm
sorry
I
just
I
also
want
to
keep
just.
I
want
to
be
judicious
judicious
with
the
time
that
I'm
using
here
sure.
So
I
just
specifically
you
know
beach
operation
is
great.
I'm
looking
at
free
beaches
for
evanston
residents.
So
what
is
the
total
revenue
that
was
brought
in
last
year
from
beach
sales
for
evanston
residents?.
R
All
right
I
mean
I
got
because
it's
broken
down
in
various
categories.
Let
me
just
you
got
406
000
on
preseason
tales,
another
103
that
gets
us
to
510
resident
season
tokens
here,
nine,
nine,
the
and
then
you
have
to
take
a
percentage
of
your.
So
you
so
from
resident
token
sales.
Q
AA
R
We
have
an
agreement
with
skokie
that
you
all
have
to
consider
right
now
we
have
a
partnership
agreement
that
allows
evanston
residents
to
buy
passes
to
skokie's
water
park
and
splash
pad
at
a
skokie
resident
rate,
and
we
do
the
same
thing
for
them
to
buy
these
tokens
from
us.
So
I
add
that
revenue,
because
I'm
thinking,
if
we're
doing
it,
maybe
for
us
you
may
want
you
know
we
may
want
to
try
to
reciprocate
our
existing
agreement.
R
So,
as
I
add
those
revenues
in
to
that
510
you're,
looking
at
you,
add
another
100
000
you
get
to
about
six
ten
and
then
of
your
daily
passes.
We
are
just
taking
a
rough
estimate.
We
brought
in
254
thousand
dollars
of
daily
passes.
We
took
about
150
of
that
254
000
added
it
to
that
600
and
that's
how
you
get
to
the
750
and
so
that
that
was
my
process
to
just
get
to
750..
R
S
R
AA
S
S
And
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
right,
so
here's
what
I
see
is
critical
in
in
alderman.
Excuse
me.
Councilmember
nguyen
mentioned
this
looking
back
at
previous
memos,
so
you
have
come
to
us
with
different
scenarios
in
terms
of
we've
lost
the
dog
beach.
So
that's
that's
land
that
we
can't
get
back.
Unfortunately,
whatever
year
we
had
that
conversation
the
cost
to
replace.
That
was
exorbitant.
I
don't
I
don't
even
remember
so.
I
guess
where
I'm
going
with
this
is
looking
at
the
chain
changing
climate.
Looking
at
also
the
fact
that
is
it,
the
tide
is
increasing.
S
Whatever
the
terminology
is
we're
losing
valuable,
lakefront
property
continuing
to
repair.
That
is
a
cost
that
I
don't
see
in
front
of
me.
So
I
share
this
dynamic
at
our
at
our
last
meeting.
It's
just
that.
I
can't
predict
out
how
long
we're
going
to
have
a
beach
to
go
to,
but
here's
what
I
do
know
based
on
previous
budgets.
The
cost
of
operating
will
always
increase,
and
I
I
supported
the
pilot
in
an
effort
to
gain
information
right
and-
and
I
and
I'll
be
honest
and
second
world
residents.
S
S
S
Councils,
based
on
what
you
projected
in
the
memo,
not
a
hypothetical,
has
a
huge
impact
to
our
budget
beyond
what
we
would
normally
recoup
with
our
arpa
funds,
so
anything
that
you
can
do
to
help
us
understand
that
it
would
be
impactful
as
well
as
any
projected
cost
to
the
erosion
of
our
lakes
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
AA
V
M
So
I
just
want
to
say
one
750
000,
that's
a
big
round
to
a
million
from
750
and.
S
C
M
M
Right,
well,
I
think
we
can
do
it
more
proactively,
even
with
them
with,
because
this
is
a
new
program
we
didn't
have
this
before
so
where
it's
free
for
everybody,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
want
to
see
this,
so
I
think
that
there
would
be
a
new,
a
bigger,
more
spirit
involved
in
in
wanting
to
donate
than
in
the
past,
where
everybody
had
to
buy
it.
With
the
exception
of
you
know,
some
people
who
were
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
time.
C
All
right,
let's
go
back
to
council
member
reed.
Look,
I
think,
in
the
interest
of
efficiency.
Let's
go
back
to
councilmember,
reed
and
kind
of
finish
your
comments
and
we'll
see.
If
there's
anyone
left
before
we
move
on
to
sp2.
AA
Okay,
so
yeah
just
with
beaches,
was
just
a
topic.
I
wanted
to
touch
on
again.
Rounding
750
up
to
a
million,
as
councilmember
kelly
said,
is
a
fairly
large
round.
I
I
know
there
are
estimates
of
what
we
were
projected
to
lose
this
year,
because
we
made
the
beaches
free
for
three
days
a
week.
AA
You
know
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
revenue
lost
aligns
with
the
fact
that
we
cut
three
days.
It
seems
like
revenue
was
fairly
steady
from
year
over
year,
so
I
I
would.
AA
I
would
think
that
you
know
in
particular,
if
we
make
this
for
you
province
and
residents
and
skokie
residents,
whoever
need
we
need
to
make
it
free
for
I'm
supportive
of
making
it
free
for
honestly
everyone,
but
you
know,
I
think
we
can
still
realize
the
revenue
necessary
to
provide
all
these
services,
particularly
as
we're
looking
at
alternative
revenue
sources
such
as
parking
along
the
lakefront
and
increased
activities
along
the
lakefront.
C
L
L
R
L
L
But
if
we
charge
chicago
people,
you
know
I
looked
at
last
year.
I
think
we'll
meadow
when
that
car
somebody
charges
like
really
high
to
go
to
their
beach
and
almost
I
think
you
can't
even
go
to
the
beach
if
you're
not
a
resident
on
the
weekend
or
something
so
there's
a
way.
We
could
structure
a
fee
system.
Sure
let's
go
okay,
absolutely.
AA
Okay,
all
right,
that's
as
before,
again
no
more
questions
about
the
beach.
At
this
moment,
I
do
want
to
move
on
to
a
few
other
revenue
questions
that
I
have
one
well
on
the
revenue
side
manager
gandursky.
We
are
including
the
arpa
funding
in
this
in
the
2022
budget.
It
seems
like
about
what
is
it
almost
all
of
it?
Is
there
the
total
that
we're
receiving
is
what
43
million
and
then
it
seems
as
though
was
it
40
million
that
I
see
in
in
the
budget?
AA
AA
So,
but
if
we're
including
30
million
in
the
2022
budget,
I
would
expect
that
we
anticipate
spending
30
million
in
the
22
budget
and
I
wonder
similar
and
council
member
fleming
is
now
doing
something
different.
But
my
understanding,
for
example,
is
other
units
of
government
such
as
the
county
are
having
a
separate
budgeting
process
for
their
opera
funds
and
keeping
it
what
I
might
consider
a
bit
cleaner
in
that
you
know
it's
very
clear
how
those
funds
are
being
used
versus.
You
know
kind
of
intermingling
that,
with
the
annual
budget
process.
K
Just
to
clarify
that
25
million
that's
sort
of
in
the
arpa
fund-
I'm
sorry
30
million
total
in
the
arpa
fund.
That
is
just
a
number
at
the
moment,
just
understanding
that
we
will
be
receiving
another
21
million
next
year,
revenue
that
is,
that
is
known
right.
We
will
receive
the
second
half
council.
K
I'm
sorry,
let
me
clarify
the
the
revenue
that
will
be
coming
in
next
year
is
21
million
and
change.
We've
received
21
million
and
changed
this
year,
so
the
the
server
revenue
coming
into
the
fund
when
we're
doing
the
fund
budgeting
for
for
the
arpa
fund.
The
revenue
is
coming
in
this
year
and
it's
coming
in
next
year.
K
Our
expenses
going
out
can
can
happen
through
2024
again
the
30
million
total
was
was
put
in
as
a
placeholder
as
we
as
the
council
works
through
specific
projects
and
programs
that
would
be
funded
out
of
arpa,
so
understanding
that
arpa
is
sort
of
happening
on
a
separate
track.
There
have
been
meetings
specific
to
arpa
and
I
would
expect
that
any
projects
that
would
be
funded
from
arpa
would
be
approved
by
council
before
they
fit
into
that
total
budget
dollar
budget
sort
of
budget
amount
for
the
year.
K
So
I
would
not
expect
that
that
30
million
would
all
be
spent
in
2022,
but
that
is,
you
know,
attempted
to
encompass
any
amount
we
may
spend
on
our.
But
next
year.
AA
Yeah,
so
you
know
I,
I
will
just
say
that
I
believe
we
need
to
certainly
where
it's
very
clear
you
know
we're
replacing
revenue
with
our
funds.
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
million
dollars
here,
a
million
there
whatever
it
is.
Those
funds
should
be.
AA
You
know
very
clearly
put
into
the
budget,
but
I
think
that
for
unallocated
upper
money
it
may
make
sense
to
have
a
a
cleaner,
separate
process
and
accounting
for
how
those
funds
are
going
to
be
utilized
and
not
put
it
in
the
budget
to
create
what
I
think
would
create
some
confusion.
So
I'll
move
on
from
that,
I'm
curious
about
a
number
of
licenses
that
we
have
one.
AA
AA
Site
or
the
budget
page,
it
is.
AA
So
right
now
it's
listed
as
zero
revenue.
For
so
there
are
no
permits
being
requested
for
heating
vents
and
ac
permits.
No
one's
changing
out
there.
AA
Do
we
know
just
internally
how
many
folks
are
pulling
heating
or
ac
permits.
T
AA
Yeah,
okay,
so
my
the
reason
I
mention
that
is,
I
suppose
that
the
permit,
for
you
know,
there's
a
separate
permit
cost
for
the
various.
You
know
items
that's
correct,
so
I'm
interested
in
you
know,
particularly
looking
at
what
might
be
termed,
as
you
know,
meeting
looking
at
our
arpa
goals.
AA
If
someone
is
replacing
their
heating
or
cooling
system
and
they're
not
using
an
efficient
system,
I
I
would
like
to
charge
them
more
for
the
permit
to
encourage
that
to
as
a
means
to
encourage
folks
to
just
switch
over
to
the
cleaner
system.
T
AA
T
And
some
of
those
it's
hard,
I
would
push
back
a
little
bit
and
say
that's
hard
because,
depending
on
the
building
type
or
the
type,
the
the
size
of
the
home
or
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish
it's
hard
to
say
what?
What
a
sign
of
value
to
whether
they're
doing
something
that's
improving
the
energy
efficiency
and
without
adding
an
extra
cost,
because
there's
always
something
better.
You
can
do.
I
had
a
resident
who
had
an
idea
about
something
they
wanted
to
do.
They
thought
they
were
going
to
be
improving
their
efficiency.
T
They
had
a
lot
of
extra
money
to
maybe
spend
on
something,
and
so
they
were
ready
to
do
a
lot
of
things,
but
it
wasn't
going
to
improve
their
their
overall
opportunity
to
reduce
their
their
carbon
footprint,
but
it
just
it
all
kind
of
added
up
to
seem
like
a
good
idea.
So
you
there's
a
there's
a
spectrum
on
which
you
can
spend
money
to
to
improve
your
efficiency.
That
gets
more
costly.
As
you
add
more
things,.
AA
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
rooming
house
licenses
is
that
something
that
your
department
would
deal
with.
AA
Okay,
so
director
ogbo
is
here
as
well,
so
I
see
that
rooming
house
licenses
brought
in
previously
165
000
over
165
000
in
revenue
annually
and
now
that's
listed
as
zero.
Do
we
know
why.
T
Right,
I
think
it's
moving
moving
health
does
some
of
it
cd,
so
some
of
it,
I
believe
some
of
that
was
zeroed
out
and
moved
into
the
community
development
department.
Is
that
correct?
So
it
was
it.
Some
of
these
things
represent
zero
because
they
changed
departments
because
it
two
years
ago,
property
maintenance
which
did
the
inspections
for
that
work,
was
housed
in
the
health
and
human
services
department
and
then
that
moved
to
community
development.
So
some
of
those
zeros
you
see
were
based
on
the
shifts
that
took
place
there.
AA
So
do
we
know
what
the
estimate
is
for
2022
then.
AA
195
000.,
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
look
at
the
rooming
house
licenses
and
the
fees
for
rooming
house
licenses
and
see
if
we
can't
gain
additional
revenue
there
to
help
with
enforcement.
As
we
know
that
has
been
a
an
issue
that.
AA
T
So
when
that's,
that
is
on
the
occupant
of
the
room,
so
when
you,
when
you
take
a
room
at
a
at
a
hotel
in
evanston
you
as
the
user
pay
a
fee,
so
the
the
lice,
the
the
fees
that
we
collect,
that
you're
seeking
more
information
on.
That's
something
that
the
operator
pays.
So
that
ranges
from
somebody
who
operates
a
rooming
house
to
the
hyatt
house.
AA
Okay,
okay
and
right
and
then
moving
on
to
additional
revenue,
questions
and
items
with
our
wheel
tax,
I'm
interested
in
again
environmental
pricing
for
the
wheel
tax.
AA
I'd
love
to
see
you
know,
I
think,
keeping
the
rate
for
a
single
car
registered
to
a
single
address
or
unit
is
fine,
but
I
think
once
folks
start
getting
over
one
car,
knowing
two
or
three
cars,
I
think
certainly
having
a
will
tax
price
that
encourages
folks
to
consolidate
vehicles
if
necessary
and
certainly
accounts
for
the
additional
cost
that
is
burdened
on
to
the
taxpayers
as
we'll
get
into
shortly.
AA
We
have
capital
improvement
capital
improvements
that
are
woefully
underfunded,
and
you
know
a
large,
a
very
substantial
portion
of
that
is
maintaining
infrastructure
that
supports
vehicles.
So
I
think
we
should
recognize
that
particularly
folks
who
are
putting
more
of
a
burden
on
the
system
by
owning
multiple
cars.
AA
Moving
on
from
that
is
looking
at
a
progressive
rental
registration
fees.
I
think
luxury
units,
you
know,
and
we
can
figure
out
how
to
define
luxury
units.
Is
it
units
that
require
an
income
over
100
of
ami
or
is
it
110
or
whatever
the
case?
But
I
think
luxury
rental
units,
when
they
register,
should
pay
a
higher
registration
fee,
as
well
as
looking
at
a
a
tax
on
those
leases
for
those
luxury
units
to
to
gain
additional
revenue.
AA
I'm
curious
about
a
value
added
tax
for
legal
and
consulting
fees.
I
don't
recall
if
there
is
some
kind
of
if
there
is
a
state
prohibition
on
charging
attacks
for
legal
and
consulting
fees
that
take
place
within
the
city.
My
understanding
is
that
we
currently
do
not
gain
revenue
such
as
you
know,
as
we
do
with
sales
tax
for
those
services
that
are
provided
within
city
limits,
and
so
I'd
like
to
look
in
to
that
vacant
properties.
AA
If,
if
a
residential
property
we
know
in
in
both
in
my
ward
and
in
other
words,
particularly
in
the
eighth
and
fifth
ward,
there
are
units-
and
also
this
is
happens
with
some
of
these
luxury
developments
across
the
city.
We
have
units
that
sit
vacant
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
I'd
love.
AA
And
then
you
know.
Lastly,
I'll
close
up
with
this
section
is
again
a
progressive
excise
tax,
the
progressive
sales
tax
for
we
have
a
liquor
tax
that
brings
in
you
know
quite
a
bit
of
revenue.
AA
I
think
for
for
high
ticket
items
that
there
should
be
a
kind
of
a
progressive
or
a
luxury
excise
tax
on
for
liquor,
expenditures
that
are
top
shelf
and
that
and
then
I
will
close
out
with
this
one
as
well
as
looking
at
you
know,
with
parking
lots
that
are
not
that
that
are
impervious
and
do
not
allow
storm
water
drainage.
AA
I'd,
be
interested
in
looking
at
storm
water
increasing
or
instituting
stormwater
drainage
fees
for
those
impervious
services
across
the
city
again
to
bring
in
additional
revenue
to
support.
C
Thank
you.
So
the
final
three
speakers
on
sp1
are
going
to
be
council
members,
braithwaite,
kelly
and
nusma,
and
then
we'll
move
to
sp2.
S
S
Albany
care
greenwood
care.
There
was
a
recent
press
release
just
regarding
the
number
of
carjackings,
the
aggressiveness
of
our
homeless
and
I've
had
a
couple
of
questions
with
our
police
department,
and
I
think,
just
when
we
look
at
the
number
of
vacancies
that
we
have
and
multiple
conversations
going
on.
I
think
that
that's
something
chief,
that
you
know
we
can
explore
at
human
services.
S
You
know
my
concern
is
this:
we
we
understand
what's
going
on
on
the
national
scene,
we
also
understand,
what's
going
on
in
the
city
of
chicago
my
concern
and
there
may
not
be
a
direct
correlation.
So
that's
why
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can
unpack
this
at
the
next
human
services.
Just
is
there
a
direct
correlation
between
the
reduced
staff
and
increase
crime
and,
if
so,
to
be
thoughtful
of?
How
do
we?
S
You
know?
How
do
we
offset
that,
like
I,
I
think
everyone
behind
here
is-
is
critical
in
terms
of
police
brutality
and
all
the
things
that
we're
seeing
nationally,
but
some
of
the
things
that
I
see
locally
are
concerned,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
terms
of
the
resources
that
you
need
to
keep
our
towns
safe,
that
we're
paying
very
close
attention
to
that.
AB
Good
evening,
council
members,
mayor
clerk
city
manager
and
council-
yes,
there
is
a
direct
correlation.
Absolutely
as
of
today
at
5
pm.
We
are
down
19
officers,
so
people
are
stressed
out
and
exhausted
on
the
job
and
that's
not
good
they're
working
double
shifts,
and
it
is
time
to
move
towards
working
on
a
solution
for
it
and
we
have
begun
those
talks
with
the
union
as
well
as
human
research,
human
resources,
as
well
as
city
manager,
ken
dursky.
S
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
and
I'm
sure
some
of
that
can
be
just
the
age
of
our
officers.
Also,
what
we're
seeing
nationally
people
taking
early
leaves
can
you
anything
you
can
do
to
give
us
a
real
good
picture
of
some
of
the
pressures
that
you're
dealing
with
that
the
police
station,
I
think,
will
be
extremely
helpful,
which
also
includes:
are
there
any
officers
that
are
on
the
bench
I
mean
earlier?
S
AB
Yes,
we
are
speaking
internally
about
some
plans
for
recruitment
and
retention,
as
well
as
an
emphasis
on
wellness
and
just
taking
care
of
each
other.
So
some
of
those
plans-
I
have
not
spoken
to
staff
about
just
yet
so
I'd
like
to
just
keep
those
close
to
the
vest.
C
AA
You
very
much
just
point
of
information,
I'm
sorry
for
clarification
for
two
things
that
were
just
raised:
the
initial
one
I'll
I'll
start
with
the
second
one,
because
it's
just
brought
up
but
just
point
of
information.
The
policy
that
you're
referring
to
with
the
firefighters,
was
vetoed
by
the
mayor
because
it
was
not
import.
It
did
not
comport
with
state
law,
so
we
wouldn't
have
that
option
for
the
police
department.
AA
But
then
two
the
issue
was
raised
about
a
correlation
between
staffing
and
an
increase
in
vehicle
theft,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
it's
being
said
from
the
dice
here.
Is
there
were
there?
AA
Have
you
or
folks
in
your
department,
done
an
actual
statistical
analysis
of
both
employment
rates
at
epd
and
the
crime
rates
determine
that
there
actually
is
a
significant
statistical.
AA
Math
people,
please
a
statistical
correlation
to
show
that
you
know
that
is
in
fact
true.
AB
C
And
I
would
just
jump
in
because
I
wanna,
I
think
that
if
you
could
send
us
any
analysis
and
write
in
there's
obviously
tremendous
interest
up
here
and
figuring
out
the
right
way
to
ensure
public
safety
and
helping
us
better
understand
that
correlation
and
what
what
we
can
learn
from
it,
I
think
would
be.
I
think
we
really
really
appreciate
that
information.
Q
C
Thank
you
very
very
much.
The
the
last
speaker
will
be
council
member
kelly.
M
K
It's
it
was
29
positions
that
were
held
vacant
in
the
budget
last
year.
I
think
it's
23
are
being
filled,
are
being
proposed,
be
filled,
sort
of
in
the
same
way
they
were
held
vacant,
the
rest
are
being
filled
but
were
reclassified
or
moved
around
a
little
bit.
There
may
have
been
some
changes
so
in
sort
of
dollars
and
cents.
We
are
proposing
to
put
all
29
of
those
positions.
M
Thank
you
and
then
also
sort
of
I'm
following
up
with
jonathan's
question
to
daniel
about
the
his
reimagining
public
safety.
So
daniel
you
mentioned
that
there
would
be
you
expected
a
positive
budgetary
impact
as
a
result.
When
are
you?
When
do
you
think
that,
and
I
I
imagine
through
staffing,
that
you
know
we
staffing
would
shift
so
we've.
I
think
we're.
I
think
it's
seven
that
we're
bringing
back
right.
Seven
positions
held
vacant
in
the
police
department,
we're
filling
in
the
21
budget
which
is
about.
M
K
Yep
so
there
there
were
eight
positions
held
vacant
in
the
police
department
last
year.
Two
of
those
were
commanders,
one
was
an
officer
and
the
remainder
were
back
office,
staff
of
administrative
staff,
so
so,
just
out
of
those
eight
three
were
sworn
in.
Five
were
civilian
positions,
so.
M
My
question
daniel
is,
have
you
I
mean,
because
certainly
nobody
ever
nobody
ever
wants
to
have
to
lay
people
off.
So,
given
you
know
that
you
expect
a
positive
budgetary
impact,
have
you
had
conversations
about
the
filling
of
these
positions
and
maybe
thought
creatively
about
you
know
how
you
go
forward
with
that
or
if
you
go
forward
with
that,
or
I'm
just
wondering
from
your
perspective
as
heading
up
the
program
for
reimagining
public
safety.
Well,.
C
I
have
been
urging
the
individuals
who
are
leading
these
working
groups
to
to
be
as
expeditious
as
possible,
given
the
time
frame
that
we're
dealing
with
the
I
mentioned.
There's
three
working
groups.
I
think
two
are
kind
of
nearing
a
point
of
making
a
recommendation
of
those
two
one
could,
I
think,
likely
have
a
budgetary
impact.
C
The
other
one
by
the
way
is
likely
to,
I
think,
could
well
help
free
up
some
staff
time
in
the
in
the
police
department,
but
the
the
one
that
I
think
may
have
a
budgetary
impact
is
one
that
I
do
not
myself
lead
and
I'm
just
doing
my
best
to
encourage
them
to
do
their
work
on
a
time
frame
that
will
enable
itself
to
be
folded
into
this
process,
but
we're
dealing
with
you
know
an
enormously
dedicated
talented
group
of
volunteers,
who
you
know
all
have
more
than
full-time
other
commitments
and
can
only
be
asked
to
do
so
much.
C
So
I
don't
want
to
over
promise
on
behalf
of
people
who
are
stretched
enormously
thin
kind
of
a
specific
date
certain
by
which
that
could
be
done.
In
the
meantime,
I
think
we
have
no
choice
but
to,
of
course,
move
forward
with
this
budget
process.
M
C
All
right
well,
thank
you
to
all
for
the
both
robust
discussion
for
the
detailed
information
from
staff,
which
was
very,
very
informative.
I
think
for
for
all
of
us
with
that.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
on
sp2
to
allow
discussion
on
that
item.
AA
Remove
discussion
of
item
sp2
discussion
on
our
2022
capital
improvement
program.
I.
C
That's
where
reid
moves
discussion
on
item
sp2,
councilman
newspaper
seconds
and
we'll
begin
with
ms
biggs,
with
a
brief
presentation.
X
X
So
I
wanted
to
give
a
bit
of
an
overview
about
how
the
cip
is
put
together.
We
actually
have
seven
portions
to
our
cip.
X
We
have
street
resurfacing
water,
main
transportation,
which
is
other
projects
like
bridges
and
traffic
signals,
parks,
facilities,
water
treatment,
the
library
and
miscellaneous.
So
you'll
note,
there's
quite
a
disparity
in
how
these
are
funded
street
resurfacing.
Water
main
and
sewer
generally
is
funded
really
well.
It
includes
a
lot
of
work
on
our
water
distribution
system
and
we
get
a
lot
of
federal
grants
in
this
area
compared
to
some
of
the
other
areas
which
are
much
smaller.
X
We
also
when
we're
putting
it
together.
We
have
to
consider
the
funding
sources
that
we
have
available
in
order
to
fund
the
cip.
So
as
you
look
at
this
table,
you'll
see
that
the
first
three
lines
are
related
to
bonds
that
are
sold
in
order
to
fund
the
general
obligation.
Bonds
are
10.4
million.
We
are
also
proposing
to
sell
some
bond
funding
for
water
and
library
for
a
total
of
16.2
million
dollars.
X
How
do
we
decide
our
capital
improvement
projects?
Well,
we
have
several
sources
from
this
and
this
is
all
detailed,
much
greater
detail
in
the
memo,
but
essentially
on
the
right
side.
You
see
suggestions
to
the
mayor,
alderman
city
manager
in
3-1-1.
Those
really
constitute
citizen
requests,
and
we
have
a
number
of
examples
of
projects
that
are
funded.
That
way,
including
things
like
park.
Rehab
tennis
court
resurfacing.
X
X
So
things
like
the
lead
service
line,
replacement,
which
we've
talked
about
quite
a
bit
lately,
is
being
handed
to
us
as
a
legal
requirement
by
the
state
of
illinois,
and
I
also
wanted
to
mention
projects
have
a
life
cycle
that
is
actually
quite
long.
So
we
begin
the
planning
phase
and
it
typically
takes
two
to
five
years
to
get
through
the
concept
planning.
X
During
that
time,
we
often
have
public
engagement
to
help
us
determine
what
the
scope
of
a
project
is.
Then
we
go
into
design
where
usually
there's
very
little
public
engagement
and
no
discussion
with
the
public.
We
move
into
construction
and
then
closeout.
But
if
you
look
at
these
timelines,
we
talk
to
people
in
the
planning
phase
and
then
typically
don't
talk
to
them
for
one
to
two
years
before
we
move
into
construction
which
is
boom.
X
It's
right
there
in
your
face
and
it's
actually
kind
of
the
shortest
segment
of
a
project's
life
cycle
and
that's
when
most
people
are
aware
of
a
project
and
then
the
closeout
takes
quite
a
long
time
can
be
one
month
on
a
very
small
project
versus
when
we
deal
with
federal
funds.
It
can
actually
go
to
six
seven
years
to
close
out
all
the
paperwork.
X
We
take
all
these
projects
and
we
have
to
figure
out
our
priorities
because
we
obviously
have
way
more
project
needs
than
we
have
available
funding.
So
when
we
look
at
things
like
immediate
life,
safety,
some
of
the
long-term
safety
issues,
maintaining
our
operations
and
other
improvements,
we
actually
do
projects
in
all
these
categories.
But
when
we
come
up
with
an
immediately
life
safety
problem,
those
projects
tend
to
be
elevated.
For
obvious
reasons,
I
will
say
at
this
point
most
of
our
projects
fall
into
the
category
of
maintaining
operations.
X
We
have
generally
been
told
by
the
city
council
to
deal
with
our
worst
issues.
First,
there
is
not
a
focus
in
the
city
of
evanston
on
doing
things
on
a
ward
by
word
basis,
but
more
looking
at
issues
like
equity
access
and
just
generally
solving
the
problems
that
are
the
largest
or
most
most
impactful
to
people.
X
That
is
14
years
away.
13.
If
we
consider
we're
working
on
the
22
cip
right
now,
and
the
average
life
cycle
of
an
hvc
system
in
evanston
facilities
is
really
at
around
20
years.
So
we
already
know
that,
as
we
implement
hvac
systems,
we
need
to
be
addressing
the
carp
goal
of
carbon
neutrality
now
or
when
we
get
to
2035
we're
just
not
going
to
be
there.
So
we
are
reading
the
adopted
plans
and
policies
and
we
are
constantly
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
conform.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
begin
with
council
member
reed
yeah.
Thank
you,
laura,
oh,
and
let
me
just
say
housekeeping.
You
know
I
think,
we're
starting
to
lose
both
people
and
attention
and
interest
in
making
sure
this
conversation
is
as
beneficial
as
the
last
one.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
switch
the
timers
back
on
and
sort
of
go
back
to
the
regular
rules.
I
will
be
flexible
as
needed,
because
this
is
also
a
critical
discussion
that
I
think
will
ultimately
do
it
better.
C
If
we
can
keep
it,
you
know
if
we
can,
what
we
lose
in
in
making
it
quick,
we
might
gain
in
a
lack
of
cognitive
decline.
That'll
occur
as
the
night
goes
on,
so
without
the
timers
are
back
on
good
customer
grade
great.
AA
So
the
total
capital
total
funding
requested
for
the
capital
improvement
plan
is
just
over
64
million
correct.
Yes,.
X
AA
Q
N
Q
AA
What
what
do
you
think
that
number
would
be
on
an
annual
basis?
So
if
we're
spending,
64.3
million
now
to
you
know,
fall
short
essentially
and
we're
still
not.
This
number
isn't
even
starting
to
make
a
dent
in
our
unfunded
infrastructure,
liabilities,
correct.
H
AA
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
is
what
do
what
with
the
city
council,
if
we
were
being
the
most
responsible
stewards
of
the
public
assets
that
we
are
responsible
for?
What
would
we
need
to
spend
on
an
annual
basis
to
keep
up
with
maintenance.
X
So
I'd
actually
like
to
defer
that
to
a
budget
memo,
but
I'll
tell
you
why,
in
our
five-year
cip,
for
example,
we
tackle
maybe
a
total
of
eight
to
ten
park
refreshes
where
we're
going
in
and
we're
redoing
a
park.
But
that's
because
that's
what
we
know
what
we
can
bear
as
a
cost.
We
probably
can't
even
do
that
in
reality,
we
should
probably
be
doing
twice
as
many
of
those
right
now
and
so
I'd
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
really
review
it.
AA
So
there's
potential
that
we're
you
know
spending
you
know
almost
30
million
or
even
maybe
35
million
short
of
what
we
need
to
be
spending
roughly,
which.
AA
Number-
and
I
think
taking
that
into
you,
know
keeping
that
in
mind.
I
think
we
need
to
this.
This
council
needs
to
be
really
understanding
of
the
fact
that
we
need
to
raise
additional
revenue
and
look
at
progressive
ways
to
raise
additional
revenue
and
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
up
with
our
you.
AA
Again,
having
safe
bridges
and
roads
and
clean
drinking
water
and
facilities
that
are
conducive
to
a
safe
fun,
experience
for
our
community
is
extremely
important
and
one
of
the
basic
things
that
we
need
to
be
doing
as
government,
and
so
I
really
think
you
know
that
we
need
to
really
keep
that
in
mind
and
look
at
ways
that
we
can
increase
funding
to
our
capital
improvements
and
I'm
sure
my
time
is
starting
to
run
low.
But
I
also
am
curious
about.
AA
I
know
we
had
a
discussion
earlier
this
term
as
early
in
this
term,
as
we
could
get
we're
only
five
months
in
about
ending
the
practice
of
bonding
out
for
all
of
our
capital
improvement
projects,
including
for
staffing,
so
is
that
is
that
being
taken
into
consideration
in
the
2022
capital
improvement
program?.
X
There's
no
staffing
salaries
that
are
included
in
the
general
obligation
bond,
that's
being
issued.
Those
salaries
are
shown
as
being
funded
from
the
general
fund.
I
will
say
that
I
don't
necessarily
agree
that
we
should
be
issuing
this
much
debt.
This
is
the
funding
source
we
have,
and
particularly
for
parks
and
facilities.
X
AA
And
my
last
question
is
regarding
just
your:
what
are
other
mispellages
or
kind
of
model
municipalities
doing
to
keep
up
with
their
capital
improvement
funding?
Is
there
some?
AA
You
know
nugget
that
you
have
to
share
with
us
that
maybe
we're
not
doing
that.
You
think
you
know
the
council
could
be
doing.
You
know
whether
it's
charging
for
xyz
service,
what
new
revenue
do
you
think
we
could
dedicate
to
this?
That
would
help
solve
the
the
35
million
dollar
annual
gap
that
we
have.
X
Given
some
of
the
other
budget
concerns
that
the
council
is
facing,
I'm
a
little
reluctant
to
just
pose
solutions,
because
I'm
not
sure
I
really
know.
I
will
say
that
we
have
a
lot
of
facilities.
The
city
of
evanston
owns
45
facilities
right
now,
and
that
is
a
lot
for
the
city
to
maintain
for
the
services
we
deliver
for
the
size
of
our
city.
AA
Okay
and
thank
you
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
and
then
to
close
just
looking
at
the
chart
there.
It
is
quite
apparent
that
you
know
the
largest
expenditure
is
street
is
related
to
providing
infrastructure
for
cars.
Street
resurfacing
is,
I
forget,
I
don't
know
exactly
what
percentage
of
our
city
land
is
streets
and
of
all
of
the
city
assets.
AA
I
think
streets
make
up
the
largest
percentage
or,
I
should
say,
not
assets
liabilities,
because
they
are
not
assets
that
have
their
liabilities,
and
so,
if
all
of
the
city
liabilities
streets
are
one
of
the
largest,
so
I
would
imagine
you
know
we
talk
about
things
like
parking
and
other
things
that
are
related
to
cars.
AA
I
think
we
have
to
get
serious
about
understanding
that
providing
infrastructure
for
vehicles
is
one
of
the
largest
expenditures
to
the
city,
and
if
we
are
not
serious
about
reducing
the
number
of
vehicles
in
our
city
or
at
least
charging
what
it
actually
cost
the
city
and
the
taxpayers
to
support
that
infrastructure,
we
are
going
to
see
this
whole
grow
and
grow.
AA
And
what
we
know
is
that,
because
of
classism
and
racism,
that
a
lack
of
funding
for
this
infrastructure
disproportionately
tends
to
impact
lower
income,
black
and
brown
folks
and
those
are
the
communities
that
tend
to
have
the
lowest
quality
facilities,
the
lowest
quality
roads.
While
we're
subsidizing
vehicle
and
convenience,
you
know
to
the
tune
of
higher
asthma
rates
and
all
kinds
of
other
environmental
costs
and
health
cost
of
your
vehicles.
So
I
think
we
need
to
really
you
know
start
turning
the
page
on.
You
know
how
we
fund
our
car
infrastructure.
X
I
do
want
to
say
that
street
resurfacing
and
transportation
also
include
water
main
and
sewer
and
the
other
utilities,
and
but
the
staff
is
mindful
of
what
you
said
and
on
all
of
our
large
projects.
We
are
trying
to
include
those
multimodal
bike
and
pedestrian
facilities
and
then
recently,
with
the
council's
direction,
to
keep
moving
forward
on
our
sidewalk
improvement.
We
have
dramatically
increased
sidewalk
and
mass
transit
support
costs
in
our
cip,
but
still
they
play
a
small
portion
of
the
total
goal.
C
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
just
for
recording
purposes.
Councilmember
you
nailed
it.
That
was
five
minutes
almost
on
the
button.
So
remember
that
if
you
have
to
speak
again,
next
is
council
member
newsman.
Thank
you.
B
Mr
mayor
and
thank
you
councilmember
reed
for
talking
getting
into
the
carp
lane
again
I'll,
intend
that
pun,
laura
I'd
like
to
talk
about
funding
for
street
resurfacing
and,
as
I
understand
it
like
a
lot
of
the
funding,
you
can
tell
me
what
percentage
comes
from
the
state
through
the
motor
fuel
tax
program.
Is
that
correct.
X
X
The
state
has
given
us
additional
funding
over
the
last
couple
years,
so
this
year
we're
funding
over
two
million
dollars
through
motor
fuel
tax
to
in
order
to
bur
to
I
don't
want
to
say
burnt,
but
to
fully
utilize
that
funding
that
we've
received
on
our
larger
projects,
which
would
include
things
like
the
main
street
corridor,
improvements
that
are
coming
up,
the
ones
on
sheridan
road
that
were
done
a
couple
years
ago,
we're
looking
at
chicago
avenue,
oakton
church
street.
Those
are
more
multimodal
projects
and
they're
really
expensive.
X
X
B
So,
with
with
the
state
funding
street
resurfacing
through
attacks
on
gasoline
sales,
do
you
know
what
the
long-term
prognosis
is,
as
we
shift
on
a
national
level
towards
electric
vehicles
and
away
from
the
use
of
gasoline
like
this,
beyond
our
pay
grade
here
in
the
city
of
evanston,
but
the
state's
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
a
way
of
funding
street
maintenance
that
relies
on
some
other
source
of
revenue.
X
They
do
so
far.
They
have
they've
been
finding
ways
to
increase
the
motor
fuel
tax
budget
through
programs
called
the
transportation
renewal
fund
and
the
rebuild
illinois.
These,
I
think,
are
generally
funded
through
the
state
diverting
other
sources
of
funding
or
selling
general
obligation,
bonds
themselves
and
then
rebating
that
back
to
the
municipalities.
X
N
U
Laura
am
I
remembering
correctly
that
our
motor
fuel
tax
has
actually
dropped
over
the
last
few
years,
or
is
that
was
that
just
a
cyclical
with
the
price
of
gasoline.
X
So,
10
years
ago
the
state
was
pushing
out
they
pushed
out
in
several
packets
additional
motor
fuel
tax
funds.
Then
there
was
a
drop,
so
it
wasn't
the
base
rate
that
dropped.
It
was
more
that
they
were
giving
a
lot
of
extra
and
then
they
stopped
that
for
a
while,
now
they're
back
to
giving
us
extra,
which
we
are
gratefully
taking
to
resurface
our
streets.
B
Just
a
general
comment:
thank
you
for
your.
You
know
explicitly
calling
out
sustainability
goals
and
carp.
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
this
is
a
model
for
the
other
departments
in
the
city
to
always
be
thinking
about
climate
action
and
environmental
justice
as
we
go
about
business
of
the
city
and
just
as
a
point
of
information.
B
What
happens
now,
with
the
climate
or
with
the
with
the
capital
plan,
is
this
coming?
This
is
for
discussion
tonight.
Is
it
coming
back
to
us
for
approval
at
some
point.
X
C
C
Oh
sorry,
I
missed
a
light
council
member
kelly.
M
So
I
just
wanted
to
comment
not
necessarily
about
capital
improvements,
but
about
the
whole
budget
process,
and
I
mean
our
city
professes
right
to
have
at
the
top
of
our
priorities,
supporting
our
most
vulnerable
residents
of
evanston
and
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
why
it
is
that
this
council
can't
actually
budget
the
maybe
four
to
five
million
dollars.
That
would
be
that's
the
equivalent
in
the
tiff
like
actually
budget,
in
order
to
support
those
members,
those
most
vulnerable
members
of
our
communities
in
order
to
have
a
fund.
M
That's
about
strengthening
those
communities,
and
I
I
really
believe
that
if
we
talked
about
belt
tightening-
and
we
really
worked
on
and
put
our
heads
together,
we
could
actually
come
up
with
that
money
and
create
that
fund.
And
I'm
I'm
just
a
little
disappointed
that
you
know
we're
that
we're
really
not
we're,
rather
we're,
preferring
to
go
to
a
relatively
I'm
sorry,
but
controversial
and
convoluted
tip
without
any
real
concrete
plans.
M
Instead
of
actually
looking
at
how
we
can
budget
budgeting
for
that
budgeting
in
a
way
to
strengthen
a
fund
that
strengthens
our
most
vulnerable
communities,
is
far
more
profound
and
meaningful
and
a
much
greater
commitment
by
this
city,
if
we
budget
for
it
rather
than
tiff
it
out-
and
I
just
really
want
to
you-
know-
put
that
out
there
right
now,
and
I
ask
that
we
all
that
we
really
consider
this.
I
hope,
melissa
on
the
finance
and
budget.
M
N
Well,
I'd
just
like
to
call
the
community's
attention
to
the
fact
that
we
have
a
wonderful
new
mural
in
the
seventh
ward
on
the
northwest
corner
of
central
and
green
bay
road.
It's
on
the
side
of
the
maya,
papaya
building.
N
It
features
three
local
birds
of
concern
and
it's
a
project
of
the
art
encounter
with
support
from
the
evanston
arts,
council,
the
evanston
north
shore,
bird
club
and
the
central
street
businesses,
and
it
was
done
by
chicago
artist,
slang
jones,
and
it's
really.
It's
really
a
great
a
great
mural
and
the
shops
on
central
street
have
these
wonderful
bookmarks
that
talk
about
the
mural
and
birds
of
concern,
as
well
as
things
that
all
of
us
can
do
to
help
birds
survive
and
thrive.
N
So
I
just
encourage
you
all
to
take
a
look
northwest
corner
of
central
street
and
green
bay.
Road.
AA
Yes,
I
want
to
make
a
closing
comment
about
some
of
our
budget
discussions,
particularly
our
improvement.
I
think
that
as
we're
continuing
to
move
through
this
budget
process,
while
I
am
certainly
not
of
the
belief
that
governments
are
businesses,
we
do
have
a
financial
responsibility
to
our
taxpayers.
AA
The
roads
that
we
provide
for
folks
is
a
product
just
like
an
iphone
and
apple,
wouldn't
sell
you
an
iphone
without
figuring
out
what
their
costs
are
to
to
provide
that
service
to
you,
and
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
figuring
out
the
cost
to
provide
the
services
of
rows
and
others
and
other
services
that
we
provide
and
make
sure
that
we're
charging
effectively
for
those
services
to
be
able
to
provide
those
and
others
to
make
sure
we're
taking
care
of
the
most
vulnerable
residents
and
hope
we
can
do
that
through
this
start
doing
that
through
this
budget
process,
you
know-
and
then
lastly
I'll
say
councilmember
kelly.
AA
If,
when
we
look
at
the
budget
that
you
know
the
reason
we
can't
provide
the
four
to
five
million
dollars
in
a
manner
that
is
going
to
be
consistent
over
23
years
is
because
of
the
unfunded
liabilities
that
we
already
have
so
to
close
out.
I
have
a
ward
meeting,
eighth
ward
meeting
on
the
28th
at
six
pm,
so
we
will
have
ward
meetings
in
the
eighth
ward
on
the
last
thursday
of
every
month,
except
for
november
and
december.
AA
AA
We
are.
There
are
community
members
in
eighth
ward,
who
are
putting
together
a
halloween
gathering
at
clyde
bromwell
park,
a
trick-or-treat
gathering
for
for
the
young
folks,
eighth
waters
and
folks
across
the
city
are
welcome
to
come
to
clyde
bumble
park.
Information
can
be
found
on
facebook,
where
else
folks
are
also
looking
for
contributions
to
help
support,
providing
a
safe
and
fun
halloween
for
eighth
ward
children,
who,
in
some
cases,
particularly
on
my
side
of
the
ward
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
ward,
where
there
are
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings.
AA
What
I've
heard
is
children
often
can't
trick
or
treat
in
their
own
neighborhoods
there
and
have
to
go
to
other
neighborhoods,
so
it's
a
great
event
to
help
folks
stay
in
in
their
neighborhood
and
build
community,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
see
eighth
waters
there,
as
well
as
get
contributions
and
all
of
that
information
can
be
found.
On
our
eighth
word.
AA
Facebook
page
and
other
groups,
so
please
find
it
there
and
then
lastly,
the
howard
and
maine
grant
survey
has
gone
out,
so
I'm
encouraging
business
owners,
I'm
sure
all
of
the
howard
business
owners
are
watching
right
now
to
fill
out
that
survey.
I
will
be
stopping
by
some
of
the
businesses
there
to
encourage
folks
to
take
care
to
take
advantage
of
those
grant
opportunities
and
looking
forward
to
discussing
that
more
at
future
meetings.
M
I'm
sorry
first
award
meeting
this
thursday
a
virtual
meeting
on
thursday
and
we're
also
competing
our
first
subcommittee
of
planning
and
development
on
housing
and
the
following
thursday,
we'll
be
having
a
first
award
meeting
just
on
the
budget
and
by
the
way,
and
also
the
finance
and
budget
committee
meeting,
I
believe,
will
be
starting
next
weekend.
Councilmember
reed.
I
hope
I
don't
have
to
remind
you.
M
I
know
you
know
very
well
the
many
projects
where
we
spent
many
millions
of
dollars
exorbitantly
high
costs
on
projects
that
did
not
reflect
our
equity
goals
and
that's
exactly
what
I'm
talking
about.
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
examine
and
prioritize
and
understand
our
priorities
and
make
sure
that
our
budget
is
in
fact
reflecting
our
priorities,
and
I
look
forward
to
doing
that
at
the
finance
and
budget
committee.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
First,
I
want
to
thank
our
our
city
manager,
kelly
for
attending
the
second
ward
meeting.
It
was
our
first
opportunity
just
to
begin
talking
high
level
about
our
budget,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
follow-up
meeting
where
we
can
take
a
deeper
dive
into
areas
and
I'll
make
sure
to
outline
them
as
well.
I
would
ask
you
to
pass
along
to
the
staff
just
by
our
appreciation,
for
what
we
heard.
This
is
a
great
beginning
to
what
will
be
a
much
deeper
conversation.
S
Okay,
so
thank
you
to
your
staff.
That's
it.
U
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
have
two
announcements
tomorrow
there
will
be,
I
will
be
hosting
a
zoom
meeting
for
third
ward
residents
and
anyone
else
on
one
topic:
crime
we've
had
two
carjackings
in
the
last
week
in
the
third
ward
and
there
has
been
a
significant
uptick
in
a
number
of
other
crimes
that
have
made
everyone
much
more
concerned.
So
we
are
going
to
be
talking
with
the
police
department
via
zoom
tomorrow
evening,
starting
at
5
30..
U
Then
our
regular
town
hall
award
meeting
will
be
on
thursday
october
28th
that
one
will
be
in
person
and
because
we
don't
have
a
location
in
the
ward
that
is
ada,
accessible
and
open
right
now,
our
regular
location,
lincoln
school
is
not
yet
having
outside
meetings.
U
We
are
going
to
be
meeting
in
the
main
library
in
the
large
conference
room
and
I
there'll
be
there's
parking
in
the
at
the
library,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
all
of
us
to
meet
together,
so
tomorrow,
night
will
be
via
zoom
and
thursday
october
28th
will
be
in
person,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
and
seeing
everyone.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Just
one
quick
announcement.
The
next
meeting
of
the
fourth
ward
residence
will
be
tuesday
november,
2nd
7
p.m,
regular
place
at
the
robert
crown
center
and
we
will
specifically
be
addressing
the
city
budget
at
that
meeting
with
representatives
from
the
city
staff
there
to
guide
us
through
the
discussion.
Thanks.
W
Next
fifth
war
meeting
october
28th
7
p.m,
at
gibbs,
morrison,
7
p.m.
There
will
be
a
more
information
on
the
on
the
city
calendar
about
a
hybrid
option,
we're
still
trying
to
work
that
out,
but
again
october
28th
7
p.m.
I
did
want
to
respond
use
this
time
to
respond
to
my
colleague,
anytime.
Tiff
is
brought
up.
I
know
folks,
love
the
tiff
conversation,
I'm
happy
to
respond,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
W
The
council
member
talked
about
a
fund
that
we
need
to
fund
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
that
tif
is
a
fund.
It's
it's
that's
what
it
is.
It's
a
tif
fund,
so
we
have
a
financing
tool
that
the
good
thing
about
it
is
that,
instead
of
that,
this,
the
city
of
evanston,
being
the
only
one
allocating
funds
the
way
tiff
works,
of
course,
is
that
all
the
tax
embodies
that
pull
from
a
certain
given
given
area
are
are
chipping
in
towards
this
goal.
W
So
funds
that
would
have
otherwise
been
diverted
all
around
the
county
will
now
be
focused
in
on
on
one
area
in
the
fifth
ward
and
because
all
the
different
taxing
bodies
are
chipping
in,
we
can
accumulate
a
lot
more
money
than
we
could,
if
just
one
city
did
it
as
if
just
one
tax
somebody
did
it,
and
so
instead
of
further
further
burdening
the
city
of
evanston
taxpayers
to
expect
the
city
alone
to
raise
anywhere
from
30
million.
W
If
you
look,
listen
to
some
of
the
activists
to
83
million
dollars
over
the
next
23
years
is
what,
which
is
what
our
tif
consultants
are:
projecting
we're
working
with
our
partners.
Other
tax
embodies
cook
county,
oakton,
district,
65
202
to
say:
hey.
We
have
a
collective
interest
in
making
sure
that
this
area
that
has
30
percent
of
the
residents
living
below
the
poverty
line
that
have
only
20
percent
that
go
on
to
graduate
from
a
four-year
college
that
that
we
have
a
shared.
W
We
have
a
shared
interest
in
ensuring
that
we're
creating
affordable
housing
and
workforce
development,
etc.
So
I
just
wanted
to
correct
the
record
on
that
and
this
idea
about
a.
A
W
Tiff
is
a
financing
tool.
We
have
plans
right,
comprehensive
plans,
affordable
housing
plans,
consolidated
plans
on
and
on
and
on
and
on.
We
need
to
update
those
plans
which
we're
doing
right.
We
we
got
to.
We
talked
to
the
staff
we
heard
from
staff,
even
today
about
hiring
a
consultant
to
help
us
run
a
comprehensive
plan.
So
we
have
plans.
I
agree.
W
We
need
to
update
our
plans
and
the
way
this
particular
financial
tool
tool
works
is
that
those
plans
will
actually
inform
how
the
tif
money
is
allocated,
along
with
a
tif
pen
committee
of
representatives,
both
imminent,
who
live
in
that
boundary
outside
the
boundary
informed
by
ex-officio.
W
Now
voting
members,
which
will
be
staff,
will
collectively
kind
of
work
on
these
plans,
work
on
developing
home,
repair
guidelines,
etc.
So
we
won't,
as
a
council,
make
all
these
decisions
ourselves
we're
going
to
really
rely
on
staff
and
the
community
to
as
a
whole
to
work
on
these
plans
and
inform
how
we
use
tiff
funds,
but
here's
what
is
100
sure
we
need
funds
right
every
at
the
end
of
every
plan.
W
That's
what
that
community
is
telling
us.
We
everybody
in
this
in
this
on
this
diocese,
I
know,
has
been
getting
emails
from
that
community.
Saying
hey,
we
need
funding.
We
need
to
set
aside
our
funding.
We
need
to
set
aside
of
funding
in
our
budget,
and
so
what's
important
is
that
we
make
a
a
a
commitment
by
will.
W
That
shows
that
that
we
have
the
political
will
to
invest
in
an
area
that
has
been
underserved
and
overlooked
for
for
decades
and
before
we
drag
them
through
another
planning
process
that
can
be
shelved
that
we
are
going
to
identify
a
source
of
funding
to
do
the
work
after
they
commit
the
time
to
helping
us
create
it.
Thank
you.
C
Councilmember
sufferden
no
report.
Thank
you
just
before
we
break
you
know.
Obviously
you
all
get
time
during
call
awards
to
do
whatever
you
choose
to
do
with
it.
I
would
just
say
that
we
have
a
lot
of
time
to
debate
issues
and
you
know
we
do
that
at
length
and
robustly
and
I'm
not
sure
how
beneficial
it
is
to
use
call
the
words
time
to
additionally
debate
those
issues,
but
that's
obviously
not
not
my
choice.
To
make
with
that.
C
I
want
to
again
thank
everyone
on
the
council
for
really
robust
engagement
in
this
absolutely
critical
discussion.
I
want
to
thank
our
entire
staff
for
the
information
that
you
gave
tonight
for
the
preparation
that
was
done
and
for
the
work
that
will
be
done
going
forward
and
seeing
no
further
business
to
come
before
us.
The
october
18th
special
meeting
of
the
events
city
council
stands
adjourned.