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A
A
Eight
members,
having
answered
the
call
we
have
a
quorum
and
are
ready
to
do
our
work.
We
begin
with
the
mayor's
public
announcements
and
proclamations
of
which
there
are
none.
The
next
item
is
the
city
manager's
public
announcements.
D
E
E
So
very
short
and
sweet
again.
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
I
want
to
encourage
residents
to
do
is
to
sign
up
to
get
the
winner
notifications.
It
will
send
you
a
tax,
it
will
send
you
an
email.
It
is
by
far
the
best
way
of
knowing
what
you
have
to
do.
If
there
is
a
snow
event.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is
that
we
do
not
allow
people
to
push
snow
from
their
private
property
on
the
city
property.
So
if
you
have
a
parking
lot,
you
have
to
get
rid
of
it.
E
You
can't
push
it
out
onto
the
street
or
down
the
alley
and
build
big
snow
piles
that
nobody
can
see
through
the
forecast
for
this
year
is
very
similar
to
last
year
above
average
snow.
We
generally
get
around
38
inches
of
snow
and
right
now
we're
predicted
to
get
44
to
46
inches
snow
last
year.
That's
what
they
predicted
as
well,
but
we
actually
got
62
inches
of
snow.
E
So,
who
knows
how
that
will
go
and
the
temperatures
are
above
average
for
the
first
half
this
season
and
below
average
for
a
second
half
of
the
winter,
with
the
majority
of
our
work
and
snow
coming
in
january
through
the
first
half
of
march,
so
our
staff
is
ready
once
we
get
done
picking
up
all
the
leaves,
the
rest
of
our
vehicles
will
be
ready
to
go
after
snow,
but
we're
set
to
go
so
that's
all.
I
have
thank
you
for
your
time.
K
Yes,
just
on
this,
thank
you
for
the
video
and
very
informative.
One
thing
I've
thought
about
is
there's
a
gentleman
who's.
Former
mayor
of
san
francisco,
governor
of
california,
probably
not
gonna,
be
president
gavin
newsom,
who
wrote
a
book
citizenville,
which
is
about
engaging
folks
in
civic
life
and
one
of
the
examples
that
they
use
that
I
thought
was
meat.
K
Was
this
adopting
fire
hydrants,
but
what
was
done
there
is
the
first
two
in
the
book
is
the
I
hate
to
use
this
term,
but
the
gamification
of
civic
engagement,
which
is
they
gave
folks,
there's
a
website
that
was
created
and
if
you
adopted
a
fire,
hydrant
you'd
be
recognized
as
the
person
adopting
the
fire
hydrant
and
every
time
you
cleared
it
after
a
snowfall,
you'd
get
some
points
and
it
got
more
folks
engaged
in
the
process
of
helping
the
city
clear
fire
hydrants.
So
just
throwing
that
out
there.
K
If
that's
a
possibility
here
that
we
can
create
some
kind
of
system
to
recognize
folks,
for
you
know
their
civic
engagement,
such
as
clearing
fire,
hydrants
that'd,
be,
I
think,
something
to
do.
A
Thank
you
quickly,
council
member
burns.
L
One
is
there
a
policy
that
kind
of
determines
where
bulk
snow
is
pushed.
I
have
a
lot
of
some
concerns
about
this
in
the
ward,
in
terms
of
is
when,
when
we
have
our.
M
E
E
Yeah
we
plowed
to
the
curb
line.
L
E
Snow
melter
is
actually
stationed
at
the
service
center
across
the
street.
From
here
we
clear
snow
from
the
downtown
area
and
from
other
business
districts.
We
start
with
the
downtown
area
and
then
we
haul
that
snow
to
the
service
center
and
then
at
the
service
center
front.
End
loaders
work
to
melt
the
snow
through
the
snow
melter.
So
we
don't
move
the
snow
melter
around.
L
E
We
try
to
get
to
every
business
district,
but
frequently
by
the
time
we
get
there,
the
snowys
meld
it
or
somebody
else
is
taking
care
of
it.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Next,
we
have
communications
from
the
city
clerk.
A
Thank
you.
This
brings
us
to
public
comment.
Today,
every
member
of
the
community
will
be
given
three
minutes.
We
begin,
as
always,
with
those
who
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
person
beginning
with
well
and
ending
also
with
ray
friedman.
J
Having
said
that,
you
all
received
an
email
from
mike
vasilco
and
first
I
wanted
to
thank
mike
vasilco
for
taking
the
time
to
write
a
full
page
summary
on
tonight's
agenda.
J
J
Public
comment
does
not
do
much
good.
If
all
are
not.
If
you
all
are
not
going
to
respond
to
it,
you
need
to
react
to
it.
Take
some
action
on
all
of
our
comments.
Of
course,
the
lack
of
transparency
and
accountability
is
very
concerning.
J
J
J
I
also
very
concerned
about
continuing
continuing
expenses
at
robert
crown,
a
new
400
thousand
dollar
park,
and
it
looks
like
new
employment
opportunities
regularly
posted
for
robert
crown.
How
are
we
paying
for
all
these
costs
of
new
robert
crown,
and
what
is
the
revenue
from
crown
to
cover
all
those
expenses
and
raising
our
annual
budget
by
60
million
dollars?
Is
a
20
increase
over
last
year's
budget?
J
How
are
we
paying
for
this
extra
60
million?
We
all
had
the
perfect
opportunity
to
hear
from
three
budget
experts
at
our
new
budget
and
finance
committee,
but
you
decided
not
to
take
advantage
of
this
excellent
opportunity
to
get
some
clarification
and
advice
before
the
budget
is
passed,
which
should
absolutely
be
done.
J
A
J
J
A
A
We
now
move
to
the
those
who
signed
up
to
speak
online.
The
first
speaker
will
be
maria
nanos,
followed
by
aina
gutierrez
and
then
betty
cones.
N
Good
evening
my
name
is
aina
gutierrez,
I'm
a
fifth
ward,
resident
and
executive
director
of
the
evanston
rebuilding
warehouse
located
in
the
second
ward,
I'm
a
relatively
new
member
of
the
operations
leadership
team
of
cradle
to
career,
and
I'm
here
to
ask
that
you
approve
the
city
of
evanston's,
continued
participation
and
subsequent
partnership
dues
of
our
communities,
collective
impact
initiative.
N
Why?
Because
you
are
a
critical
partner
in
evanston
cradle
to
career.
Our
network
is
more
than
40
organizations,
including
both
school
districts,
northwestern
university
evanston
hospital
and
a
myriad
of
non-profit
organizations.
Like
my
own,
we
at
the
evanson
rebuilding
warehouse
are
a
partner
because
we
know
that
our
organization's
efforts
aren't
enough
to
fight
inequity
and
ensure
that
each
child
in
our
community
can
achieve
their
full
potential.
N
Building
equity
takes
time
growing
trust,
partnership
and
ownership
all
take
time,
and
I
would
imagine
that
in
many
ways
the
city
of
evanston
knows
this
better
than
many
of
us.
At
the
same
time,
there's
urgency
there
are
young
people
in
evanston
who
have
great
needs.
We
can't
solve
their
needs
by
doing
the
same
things.
We've
done
because,
frankly,
it
hasn't
worked.
N
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
We
have
many
committed
individuals
within
our
partner
organizations
that
are
dedicated
to
ensuring
that
equitable
systems
are
implemented
that
will
productively
support
our
youth
and
families.
Our
community
needs
cradle
to
career.
We
need
the
city
of
evanston
to
partner
with
us
to
provide
guidance
and
leadership
through
the
process.
A
O
As
we
submitted
a
revised
partner
agreement
for
your
review,
the
city
of
evanston
has
been
a
long-term
partner,
creates
a
career.
You
all
have
been
instrumental
in
setting
organizational
strategy,
helping
us
hire
and
support
our
leadership,
building
out
an
organizational
structure
and
working
with
non-profit
partners
and
community
members
to
create
a
better
evanston
together
through
the
lenses
of
systems,
change
and
collective
impact.
O
As
we
come
out
of
this
pandemic
as
a
community
we
at
craves,
the
career
are
excited
about
one
resetting
our
strategy,
two
reinforcing
our
commitment
to
accountability
and
transparency,
three
refocusing
on
systems
change
and
measurable
outcomes
and
four
prioritizing
equity
in
the
coming
year.
We're
excited
to
do
all
these
things
with
our
partners,
including
the
city
of
evanston,
and
ask
that
you
vote
in
favor
of
approving
our
annual
funding
of
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
have
a
great
thanksgiving.
P
Hi,
thank
you.
I
had
to
pull
over
I'm
driving,
but
I
did
I
want
to
comment
on
the
budget
and
I
would
hope
that
you
will
review
it
and
take
out
some
of
the
expenses
like
that
700
000,
the
consulting
fee
for
the
animal
shelter,
not
that
we
can't
have
a
great
animal
shelter,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
clear
on
what
we're
building
and
what
that
700
000
is,
and
the
city
council
needs
to
vote
on
that.
P
The
second
thing
is:
I
would
hope
that
we
will
invoice
the
friends
of
crown
for
the
money
towards
the
expenses
for
the
robert
crown,
because
money
that
was
used
to
buy
facility
usage
time
is
sitting
with
the
friends
of
crown
and
we
can
write
an
invoice.
I
believe
in
alliance
with
the
memorandum
of
understanding.
P
For,
for
that
I
would
hope.
That's
what
the
mou
is
allows
for,
and
the
third
thing
is,
is
I'm
wondering
if
anyone
can
address
how
the
community
will
be
included
in
the
city
manager's
search
as
we
move
forward?
Are
we
going
to
have
another
community
more
community
meetings
and
how
will
we
find
out
the
results
of
what
our
fellow
residents
said?
I
hope
we
do.
P
I
mean
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
have
town
halls
there
was
that
one,
so
that's
basically
it,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
seriously
seriously
look
at
doing
a
forensic
audit
on
our
robert
crom
project,
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
projects
that
we
do
that
seem
to
keep
going
overboard
by
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
very
much
have
a
happy
thanksgiving,
bye.
A
Q
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
mayor,
thank
you,
councilman
and
woman,
as
each
of
you
will
hear
probably
this
evening
about
the
wonderful
adverts
and
the
business
district.
Special
service
area
leadership
is
doing
to
improve
the
footprint
for
their
area.
I
present
to
the
council
this
evening
an
opportunity
to
begin
the
conversation
about
creating
equity
for
all
businesses
in
evanston.
Q
Evanston
is
only
seven
miles,
long,
no
matter
how
it's
packaged,
delivered
or
created
it's
important
to
bring
our
business
community
under
one
business
district
that
is
providing
financial
equity
for
all
businesses
in
evanston
to
grow
and
sustain
themselves.
I
understand
this
evening.
The
budget
will
be
passed
for
the
ssas.
Q
Let's
move
forward
and
begin
the
conversation
on
how
to
close
the
gap
of
resources
for
all
businesses
in
evanston.
Let's
begin
to
work
today
to
push
forward
and
lead
to
having
a
greater
level
of
talent,
diversity,
ethnicity,
at
the
table,
it's
time
to
break
barriers,
everyone
and
that's
something
that
most
of
y'all
davon
read:
aldermen,
read
and
alderman
burns.
A
R
Thank
you,
so
I
search
littered
an
email
and,
let
me
first
say
thank
you
to
ray
friedman,
who's,
always
patient
and
asking
all
these
very
good
questions,
and
he
too
never
gets
his
answers.
R
The
budget
should
not
be
approved
tonight,
nor
should
it
be
approved
until
commitments
that
are
made
by
aldermen
and
by
the
mayor
during
campaigns
about
you
know
really
digging
into
city
departments
department
by
department
looking
at
their
efficiency
looking
at
their
staffing
requirements,
not
their
wants,
but
what
they
need
and
looking
at
their
overall
performances.
R
R
It
was
supposed
to
be
for
discussion,
but
of
course
it
felt
flat
because
the
share
just
dismissed
for
the
most
part
citizen
involvement,
so
city
council
members
are
really
responsible
for
what
was
a
campaign
that
not
that
long
ago
and
what
they
promised
one
of
the
big
issues
everybody
talked
about.
We're
gonna
make
northwestern
pay
their
fair
share
where
what
happened
to
that
seems
like
you
could
do
something
independently
without
their
agreement.
R
Right,
excuse
me
by
finding
them
assigning
fees,
you
know
make
the
fire
department
send
them
invoices
for
for
visiting
their
campus
and
other
things
that
you
should
do
independently
and
and
just
collect
the
money.
If
they're
not
going
to
give
it
to
us
the
way
they
should.
R
There
was
a
tax
levy
in
the
packet,
a
1.5
percent
tax
increase,
everybody
will
say:
well,
that's
not
so
much,
but
it's
a
tax
increase
and
several
aldermen
promised
there
was
not
going
to
be
a
tax
increase
this
year.
Well,
there
it
is
so
please
reject
sp2,
I'm
not
convinced,
mr
hemingway,
who
should
resign
for
his
involvement
in
covering
up
harassment
on
the
lakefront.
R
But
his
explanation
to
you
on
on
item
a
three
and
a
four
I'm
sorry
a3
and
a
six
where
these
programs,
you
know
he
claims
we're
making
some
money
off
of
it.
There
are
a
lot
of
hidden
costs
that
haven't
been
shown
to
you.
15.
A
R
It
was
profit
so-called
profits
disappear.
I'm
also
advocating
against
p2
the
listening
to
that
discussion.
The
parking
discussion
is
totally
unresolved,
a
lot
of
verbal
commitments
being
made
time.
People
are
going
to
walk
away,
thinking,
they're,
getting
what
they're,
what
they're
not
getting
and
that
should
just
be
tabled
until
the
parking
issue
is
resolved.
Thank
you.
A
A
If
not,
then
we'll
move
on
and
come
back
next
will
be
bruce
edenbach,
followed
by
cecile
mchugh
and
then
dorian
price.
S
Hi
super
saiyan
black,
addressing
p2
1900
sherman.
This
project
is
no
longer
the
same
project
that
the
previous
council
approved.
It
is
no
longer
a
c1a
zoning
project,
rather
is
an
r6
zoning
project
which,
by
the
way,
is
its
current
zoning
designation
by
the
county's
own
admission,
quoting
from
them,
quoting
them
from
a
planned
commission
meeting
minutes
of
9
9
20
quote
the
primary
reason
for
the
request
to
change
the
zoning
that
is
from
r6
to
c1a
is
that
the
planned
development
in
a
residential
district
requires
a
12-foot
separation
between
the
buildings.
S
Unquote,
the
original
proposal,
the
one
the
previous
council
approved,
did
not
have
that
required.
12-Foot
separation.
So
now
with
the
proposed
change,
the
reason
for
having
asked
for
c1a
no
longer
exists
with
the
proposed
change
there.
Now
is
the
appropriate
separation
between
the
buildings
required
under
r6
sony.
Accordingly,
the
project
is
now
r6.
S
The
project
additionally,
is
not
appropriately
c1a
at
all.
To
quote
the
city's
web
page
quote:
the
c1a
commercial
mixed
use
district
is
intended
to
provide
locations
for
the
development
of
a
mixed-use
buildings
consisting
of
retail,
oriented
and
office
uses
on
the
ground
level
and
office
uses
and
or
residential
device
holes
located
above
unquote.
This
project
is
not
a
mixed
uses,
a
mixed-use
development.
It
has
no
retail
component,
it's
clearly
not
c1a.
S
This
is
an
r6
project
and
with
the
proposed
changes
accordingly
must
now
be
reconsidered
under
r6
jonah
sony.
Now
I
am
happy
and
pleased
that
the
county
develops
affordable,
housing
and
happy
to
pay
taxes
for
that
activity.
But
this
project
is
not
that
it
only
masquerades
as
an
affordable
housing
project.
It
was
originally
a
thirty
percent
market.
Seventy
percent
affordable
rate
project.
Now
it's
the
opposite:
it's
thirty
percent
affordable
in
seventy
percent
market.
This
project
is
primarily
a
market
rate
luxury
residential
development,
the
likes
of
which
the
county
has
no
business
being
involved
in.
S
While
I
may
support
money
losing
projects
by
the
county
which
are
in
the
interest
of
helping
others,
those
in
need,
I
cannot
support
the
county
using
our
tax
dollars
going
into
speculative
market
rate
residential
buildings
such
as
this.
Please
reject
this
proposal
and
thank
you
very
much
and
happy
thanksgiving.
A
T
Sorry,
could
you
let
sue
lobac
go?
I
need
to
take
a
break
real,
quick.
A
If
sue
is
available,
that's
fine
sue
is
sue
oldbox.
There.
U
Yes,
I
am
here
I
am
available.
However,
I
am
passing
so
thank.
C
A
Got
it
okay,
thank
you.
So
the
three
there
are
four
people
who
have
been
called
on
and
haven't
yet
spoken
or
passed:
they're
maria
nanos,
sarah
best
warren
cecile,
mchugh
and
doreen
price.
T
T
The
topic
I
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
hopefully
quickly
is
related
to
pages
2
and
3
of
our
cfo's
report
about
expenses
and
revenue
and
introduction
to
the
budget,
and
I
had
questions
about
where
the
arpa
money
went
to
and
they
went
unanswered,
but
I
sort
of
get
a
better
view
of
where
the
items
are
going
to,
but
I
still
don't
know
have
a
clear
picture,
which
is
my
biggest
concern
about
passing
this
budget
and
considering
that
the
the
agencies
you
heard
from,
I
know
ena
and
a
wonderful
person
in
organizations
she's
associated
with
and
others
have
been
asking
for
money
and
basically
been.
T
I
haven't,
heard
anything
about
increased,
increased
funding
of
of
charities
as
spoken
about
in
the
november
first
city
council
meeting.
So
it
continues
in
terms
of
being
an
issue
is
where
is
this
money
coming
and
going
in
terms
of
helping
the
residents
and
helping
those
helping
the
residents
on
page
two?
It
says:
2
million
673
thousand
dollars
and
400
two
for
I'm
sorry,
two
million
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
arpa
revenue,
loss
funding.
Okay,
that's
going
it's
from
arpa
to
the
city
and
then
there's
eight.
T
Let's
see,
there's
one
time:
expenses
of
six
hundred
thousand
and
five
hundred
thousand
toward
the
bottom
last
paragraph
there
that's
that's
basically
being
carpet
funneled
funding,
funneled
funded
by
arpa,
so
we're
not
now
up
to
four
million,
and
then
we
have
four
million.
That's
corrections
to
health
insurance
or
no,
not
corrections,
opera
funding,
loss
revenue
which
we
know
about
which
was
four
million,
so
that
gets
up
to
four
million
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
so
we're
up
to
eight
million,
possibly
nine
million.
T
And
then,
if
that
10
million
has
all
gone
to
the
city
before
it's
gone
to
anything
else,
I
don't
think
that
makes
sense
if
we're
saying
that,
and
especially
if
you
don't
have
the
next
three
years
projection,
we
can't
tell
the
difference
of
what's
for
this
year
versus
next
year
or
if
this
is
this
year,
then
we
don't
have
much
left
for
next
year.
If
we're
saying
half
of
200
20
thousand
of
forty
thousand,
then
that
means
we
have
ten
thousand
to
go
to
economic
development.
T
Go
to
these
charities,
the
homelessness
whatever
and
people
trying
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
and
then
they're
gonna
say
that
affordable
housing
is
more
important
and
so
seniors
aging
in
place
becomes
and
we're
talking
about.
Okay,
go
rent
a
house:
well,
people
in
their
houses
can
be
prevented
from
needing
those
those
rental
units
and
keeping.
T
Their
homes,
yes,
is,
as
we
know,
medically
advised
medically
advised
as
well
as
morally
advised,
so
I'm
advocating
for
the
fact
that
people
that
need
to
stay
in
their
homes
need
help.
They
need
to
be
honest,
they
need
to
be
called
just
like
renters,
so
that
they
can
be
up
for
whatever
is
available
for
them
at
any
time
that
it's
available.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
I
appreciate
you
reading
my
comment
when
I
submit
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
very
much
that
brings
this
evening's
public
comment
to
a
close,
which
brings
us
to
special
orders
of
business,
of
which
we
have.
I
believe
we
have
eight
special
orders
of
business
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
all
related
to
the
2022
budget.
Would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion.
W
I
will
move
ordinance
98021
the
2022
budget,
ordinance.
X
Well,
all.
K
All
right,
I
would
like
to
make
a
few
budget
amendments.
One
is
in
the
eighth
ward.
Custer
street
is
a
I'd,
invite
my
colleagues
to
visit
custer,
particularly
between
howard
and
main
street,
and
in
fact,
cluster
may
not
run
beyond
at
that
point
and
you'll
notice
that
the
lanes
on
custer
are
wider
than
almost
any
other
lane
in
in
the
city
of
evanston.
Particularly,
you
know,
if
you
look
at
well,
ridge
is
a
special
exception
where
the
lanes
are
pretty
narrow,
but
chicago
avenue
and
most
other
you
know.
K
Standard
streets
in
the
in
the
city
have
narrower
lanes,
which
this
causes
the
safety
issue.
People
tend
to
drive
a
bit
faster
down.
Custer
I've
had
a
number
of
complaints
from
residents
who
wanted
to
have
speed
humps
installed
on
custer,
but
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
to
me
on
a
talk
to
staff.
A
a
proper
place
for
speed
humps,
but
reducing
a
road
diet,
as
it's
called
having
a
road
diet
on
custer,
would
allow
what
would
encourage
folks
to
drive
at
the
speed
limit
and
potentially
create
safety.
K
It's
I
did
the
measurement
it's
a
mile
of
of
road,
and
so
their
cost
would
be
somewhere
20
to
30
thousand
dollars
just
to
restripe,
and
I
think
it
would
be
create
a
considerable
amount
of
safety
for
folks
in
the
area.
K
K
Seeking
a
second
for
that,
in
particular,
I
had
a
a
number
of
parents
in
the
area
who
are
worried
about
their
children.
You
know
being
hit
by
a
speeding
car
and
if
we
can
do
something
as
small
as
restriping
the
area
and
creating
you
know,
providing
for
a
road
diet
and
encouraging
folks
to
drive
the
speed
limit.
I
think
this
is
a
fairly
minor
expenditure.
A
So,
council,
member
reed
moves
to
amend
the
budget
by
adding
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
the
sorry,
yes
to
the
cip,
to
the
capital
to
the
cfp
for
the
purpose
of
restriping
custer
between
maine
and
howard.
Is
that
correct?
Yes?
So
if
there's
a
second
I'll,
ask
you
to
put
that
in
right
now,
but
is
there
a
second
for
that
motion.
L
Second,
I
just
really
wanted
to
hear
from-
I
don't
know
like
I
said
that
would
be
dave,
stoneback
or
edna
who's
ever
around.
I'm
sure
you
spoke
to
one
of
them
about
this
and
just
get
their
thoughts
on
it.
K
A
So
the
the
motion
was
made
by
council
member
reed.
It
was
seconded
by
council
member
burns,
while
there
was
a
request
for
discussion
that
I
think
will
be
important,
but
while
this
ongoing
council
member,
could
you
please
send
that
motion
in
writing
before
any
vote
would
occur?
Mr
stoneback.
E
Evening
again,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
the
council
member
is
requesting.
I
I
don't
know,
there's
parking,
I
believe,
on
both
sides
of
carster.
Now,
so
are
you
planning
a
middle
island
that
people
won't
drive
in
or
let's.
K
Focus
on
the
free
striping
and
the
road
diet
and
making
it
that
that's
the
concern
here
parking.
If
we
can
add
parking,
we
can
add
parking
if
we
can't.
We
can't
talk
to
mike
revere
about
that,
but
the
concern
is
reducing
the
width
of
the
lanes
to
encourage
slower.
E
Speeds-
and
I
I'm
sorry
I
just
can't-
I
don't
can't
visualize
how
we
put
striping
down
that
would
actually
solve
that
issue.
Generally.
Speeds
are
derived
by
the
amount
of
open
space
that
that
you're,
seeing
as
you're
driving
down
the
road
so
having
a
mark
on
the
pavement,
doesn't
really
give
your
eyes
a
sense
that
the
road
is
narrow,
you're
still
seeing
the
full
width
of
it.
E
E
K
Yeah
the
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
have
looked
into
this
and
the
kind
of
industry
standards
are
saying
that
really
it
maxes
out
at
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
a
mile
of
road.
But
you
know
I
know
the
times
are
different
now
and
costs
are
up.
So
that's
why
I
increased
it
to
30
000
for
this
mile
stretch
of
road.
E
E
And
and
put
white
stripes
along
the
edges,
I
I'm
not
sure
what
your
plan
is,
and
so
I
can't
say
for
sure
whether
30
000
is
appropriate.
Not
that's
the
number
that
you
provided.
But
again,
if
you
remove
the
cars
like
on
dodge
avenue,
we
made
a
protective
bike
lane
along
the
curve
and
move
the
cars
out
that
provides.
E
V
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
just
for
members
of
city
council.
I
think
you
know
we're
on
the
eve
of
the
budget.
So
I'll
keep
my
comments
short,
and
this
is
why
we
have
memos
and
a
process
every
year.
So
I'm
not
sure
when
this
became
a
priority,
a
council
member
read,
but
I
would
suggest
you
know
per
days
conversation
it's
a
lot
more
than
just
making
a
what's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
fill
in
the
blank
we
have
an
opportunity
later
in
the
season
to
make
a
budget
amendment.
V
I
think
it's
difficult
at
this
hour
with
a
full
agenda
to
make
this
type
of
a
judgment
or
adjustment,
and
that's
just
my
thoughts
and
I
can
be
supportive
at
a
later
date,
but
not
the
night
that
we're
looking
to
pass
it,
particularly
when
we're
trying
to
promise
our
public
that
we're
not
going
to
raise
taxes
this
year.
It
just
opens
the
door
to
a
different
set
of
consequences.
A
Let's
go
to
councilman
small
you'll
have
another
another
chance
before
any
vote
occurs.
Councilman
smith.
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
councilmember,
rita.
I
don't
think
that's
a
crazy
idea
worth
consideration.
X
I
do
have
some
separate
concerns
about
custer
between
oakton
and
maine,
for
reasons
which
we
don't
need
to
get
into
tonight,
and
for
that
reason
I
would
not
be
supportive
of
moving
forward
at
this
at
this
point
this
evening,
but
I
guess
I
would
echo
councilmember
braithwaite's
comment
that
if
we
can
come
back
to
this
after
having
gone
through
some
discussion
with
staff,
I
may
very
well
be
supportive
at
a
later
date.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
have
a
question
is:
is
lara
biggs
available
by
any
chance
to
answer
a
question
about
this.
A
Thanks
thanks
so
much
ms
biggs,
you
know,
as
some
of
you
know,
I
learned
a
lot
more
than
I
cared
to
earlier
this
year
about
road
safety
and
speed
of
vehicles
and
so
forth,
and
as
a
result,
we
entered
in
some
discussions
about
some
thoughts
city-wide
about
trouble
spots
for
exactly
this
reason
spots
where
the
kind
of
design
of
the
street
perhaps
gives
an
impression
to
the
motorists
that
a
safer
rate
is
appropriate
than
what
actually
a
higher
velocity
is
appropriate
than
what's
actually
safe,
and
I
know
that
you
had
kind
of
embarked
on
some
thinking
about
what
we
might
do
city
wide
as
opposed
to
kind
of
ad
hoc
and
particular
locations.
Y
So
during
that
time
period,
as
you
can
imagine,
there
have
been
some
advances
in
neighborhood
traffic,
calming
programs
and
technology.
So
we
get
a
lot
of
requests
regarding
things
like
mid-block
crosswalks.
How
should
we
stripe
them?
Where
we
should
put
stop
signs?
What
do
the
crosswalks
look
like?
Do
we
have
blinking
led
lights?
Do
we
have
a
sign
in
the
middle
of
the
street?
These
are
all
really
valid
questions
and
we
have
not
really
looked
at
it
with
any
consideration
in
quite
some
time.
We
get
so
many
crosswalk
requests.
Y
A
Thank
you,
that's
very
helpful.
I
appreciate
it.
No
one
who
has
not
yet
spoken
is
asking
to
speak.
So,
let's
go
back
to
council
member,
oh
sorry,
so,
first
councilmember
kelly.
U
I'm
sorry
it's
not
in
reference
to
the
to
devon's
request.
A
Let's,
let's
hold
it
until
after
this
amendment
is
dealt
with
then
so
back
to
council,
member
reid.
K
Yeah,
I
just
two
comments
that
were
made.
K
This
isn't
my
idea
if
one
of
my
colleagues
mentioned
that
this
comes
from
the
community
from
parents
who
have
children
who
live
on
custer
and
who
are
constantly
worried
about
cars
that
are
speeding
down
custer
and
you
know
thirty
thousand
dollars-
I
I
I
think
that's
enough
and
if
we
needed
to
adjust
it
up
one,
this
is
just
setting
the
money
aside
to
say
this
is
something
if
we
look
at
all
of
the
streets
in
evanston
that
run
north
south
chicago
avenue,
custard
rage
dodge
whatever
the
case
may
be.
K
Custer
is
the
widest,
and
I
mean
I
haven't
personally
measured
every
street,
but
by
my
estimation,
by
my
understanding
of
just
knowing
evanston
custer
has
the
widest
lanes
of
of
any
north
south
street
in
evanston.
K
Maybe
the
only
streets
not
in
evanston,
but
the
only
street
that
I
think
could
compare
as
far
as
with
them
is
maybe
mccormick.
I
think
the
lanes
on
custer
is
as
wide
as
the
lanes
on
mccormick
and
so
we're
talking.
Maybe
I
think
the
standard
is
what
a
12
foot
lane
a
10
to
12
foot
lane
is
a
standard
and
a
custer
seems
like
it's
closer
to
like
15
feet,
which
is
like
the
highway.
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
is
a
highway
lane
15
20
feet.
Y
The
highway
lane
is
actually
only
around
12
feet.
That's
a
standard,
highlighting
width
highway,
lane
width,
so
I
under-
and
I
understand
your
concern
completely,
but
I
would
say
we
actually
have
so
many
requests
from
all
over
the
city
and
for
that
reason
we
put
in
neighborhood
traffic
calming
money
as
a
pool
of
money
in
general.
If
I
mean
I'm
certainly
willing
to
look
into
custer
specifically
and
look
at
the
lane
widths
and
try
to
figure
out
the
best
way,
is
there
a
specific
point
where
people
are
concerned?
Y
Y
K
Thank
you,
and
I
totally
understand
that
my
my
goal
here
is
just
to
set
aside
the
the
money
that
I
think
it
would
take
to
to
get
a
project
underway.
You
know
we
could
come
back
to
this,
but
you
know,
I
think
putting
it
in
now
makes
sense.
We
know
I
know
in
the
area
of
concern.
You
know,
I'm
the
eighth
world
alderman,
my
ward
ends
at
oakton.
K
I
don't
get
calls
about
anything
going
on
past
oakton,
so,
but
certainly
between
howard
and
oakton,
and
particularly
near
mulford,
is
where
I've
had
a
number
of
residents
reach
out.
So
if
there
is
a
commitment
from
I
mean
I'd
still
like
to,
I
think
this
is
important
and
I'd
like
to
still
take
a
vote
on
it.
But
if
there's
a
commitment
from
staff
to
to
look
into
this
further
I'd
like
to
set
aside
the
money,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
K
Y
Regardless
of
whether
the
council
votes
to
set
aside
funding
or
not,
we
will
we
will
look
into
it,
and
perhaps
we
could
come
to
a
ward
meeting
or
have
a
special
board
meeting
to
discuss
this
with
the
issue
among
the
neighbors.
We
would
happy
to
be
participation
to
participate
in
that
and
then
again,
regardless
of
whether
the
funding
for
this
or
for
neighborhood
traffic
calming
is
increased.
We
do
propose
to
come
back
in
february
or
march,
with
revised
recommendations
for
neighborhood
traffic
calming
policy
for
the
city.
A
Okay,
so
all
right,
so
a
few
things
first
of
all
council
member
read
your
time
is
up.
I
I
didn't
fully
understand.
Are
you
indicating
that
you're
withdrawing
the
motion
in
light
of
that
or
you're
not
withdrawing
the
motion,
not
withdrawn,
emotion,
okay,
council,
member
rebel.
Z
I
just
want
to
say,
since
I
I
share
with
all
my
colleagues,
I'm
sure
the
the
the
fact
that
we
all
are
receiving
you
know
concerns
from
our
residents
about
traffic
speeding
down
their
neighborhoods.
So
I'm
really
pleased
to
hear
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
a
comprehensive
look
at
you
know
new
measures
that
we
could
try
to
improve
safety
on
our
streets.
I
think
our
residents
will
be
really
happy
about
that.
AA
Z
A
With
two
voting
in
favor
and
six
voting
against,
the
amendment
does
not
pass
next
in
line
to
speak
on
the
council.
K
I
still
had
another
amendment
so
my
time
on
that
amendment
I
think,
has
expired
because
we
get
the
five
minutes
per
motion.
A
The
rules
are
ambiguous.
The
rule
is
five
minutes
per
subject.
My
intent
was
to
enforce
that
per
agenda
item
tonight
rather
than
promotion.
Obviously
this
is
the
budget
of
the
city
of
evanston.
I'll,
of
course,
allow
you
to
make
a
a
motion,
but
I
would
ask
you
to
make
a
motion
quickly
to
to
any
further
amendment
you're
proposing.
K
Yes,
so
this
is
moving
on
to
a
separate
item-
road
diet,
it's
still
relating
to
roads,
so
since
budget
memos
were
referenced
earlier,
I
did
request
a
budget
memo
on
this,
and
this
is
looking
toward
revenue
as
opposed
to
an
expenditure,
and
the
question
on
this
was
about
wheel
tax
pricing.
K
Currently
we
charge
85
dollars
for
a
a
regular
passenger
vehicle
and
the
late
fee
is
110
if
you're
late,
it
jumps
up
to
110.
K
You
know
60,
for
motorcycles
on
and
on
95
for
recreational
vehicles
40
for
trailers.
My
interest
here
is
to
for
a
second
vehicle
registered
to
a
single
address,
increase
the
fee
by
staff.
Here
in
the
memo
you
know
gives
an
example
of
ten
dollars.
My
goal
would
be
to
increase
that
to
twenty
dollars
for
for
the
second
vehicle,
so
taxing
each
second
vehicle
and
beyond
another
ten,
ten
dollars
or
ninety
five
dollars
per
car
for
the
second
vehicle
would
result
in
approximately
230
000
dollars
in
additional
revenue.
K
So
my
proposal
would
be
to
make
that
20
per
additional
car
and
that
would
four
bring
in
sixty
thousand
dollars
of
additional
revenue.
We
know
that
our
particularly
our
capital
improvement
funds
are
lagging.
Our
funding
for
capital
improvements
is
lagging
far
behind
a
huge
portion
of
that
is
for
roads
and
infrastructure
that
is
meant
to
provide
for
these
vehicles.
K
I
think
this
is,
you
know
progressive
in
that
you
know
it's
folks
who
are
owning
more
than
one
car
per
household.
It
has
environmental
impacts
and
encouraging
folks
to
consolidate
vehicles
where
possible
would
certainly
be
happy
to
make
an
exception
for
vehicles
that
are
older,
which
would
likely
belong
to
someone
who's
more
low
income
and
so
as
opposed
to
twenty
dollars
per
per
for
a
second
car
for
an
older
vehicle.
You
know
make
it
10
or
or
just.
A
Keep
it
right
just
in
the
interest
of
equity
regarding
time,
can
you
just
you
said
a
lot
of
important
things
there,
but
could
you
just
quickly
state
that.
K
Yes,
the
the
motion
is
to
increase
the
budget
by
200,
I'm
sorry
by
400
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
charge
twenty
dollars
per
additional
vehicle
registered
the
same
address.
A
So
this
is,
I
don't
know
exactly
where
this
question
would
be
directed,
but
my
guess
is
mr
cummings,
or
maybe
mr
mr
desai
or
ms
lewis
lincoln.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
the
the
various
fees
and
taxes
being
described
here
are
not
in
the
budget
at
all,
but
rather
their
ordinances.
That
then
generate
revenue.
Estimates
that
inform
the
budget
is
that
is
that
correct?
Mr
cummings.
AA
A
AB
Sure,
just
to
clarify
wheel,
tax
revenue
currently
goes
into
the
general
fund.
So
if
we
increase
the
the
revenue
estimate
due
to
this
expectation,
you
would
just
have
to
decide
if
you're
also
increasing
the
expense
side,
since
that
is
what
shows
up
in
the
budget
ordinance,
as
as
the
city
attorney
mentioned,.
A
K
The
money
to
go
to
roads,
to
our
capital
improvement,
to
funding
our
infrastructure,
but
certainly,
as
kate
said,
it
traditionally
goes
into
the
general
fund.
A
I
think
this
is
a
this
is
a
good
example
of
why
I
just
struggle
without
things
in
writing.
So
so,
if
someone
wants
a
second
counselor
reads,
motion
go
ahead,
but
if
that
happens,
I'll
definitely
want
to
see
this
in
writing
and
to
read
it
out
loud,
because
I'm
struggling,
I
think,
to
understand,
what's
what's
being
sought
here,.
AA
K
AB
If
you
were
to
change
the
wheel
tax
in
preparation
for
them,
the
2023
wheel,
tax
season,
that
revenue
would
primarily
be
received
in
22
since
we're
selling
wheel
tax
october
september,
you
know
later
ones
come
in
october
november
and
usually
with
the
current
schedule.
All
that
revenue
is
received
in
the
year.
K
If
I
can
ask
laura
a
quick
question
as
a
reminder,
we
currently
the
the
the
cip
budget,
is
currently
requested
at
about
64
million
just
roughly
yeah,
and
then
I
remember
asking
if
we
were,
you
know,
quote
unquote
responsible
with
our
cip.
We
would
be
funding
to
keep
up
with
expenditures
or
to
keep
up
with
our
liabilities.
K
A
L
Okay,
because
I
like
the
idea-
I'm
not
necessarily
ready
to
to
do
this
with
something-
I
don't
quite
understand
how
it
will
work,
but
I
am
ready
to
I
like
the
idea
and
it
should
be
discussed
and
I'd
love
to
see
ordinances
drafted
and
passed
and
the
revenue
collected.
I
just
don't
think
we
may
not
need
to
do
this
to
to
get
the
revenue
in
which
is
what's
most
important.
A
A
All
we
can
do
tonight
is
spend
the
revenue
not
earn
it,
and
so
I
would
I
don't
get
a
vote,
but
I
would
urge
people
to
only
only
do
this
if
you're
really
sure
you're
going
to
come
back
and
take
the
vote
to
bring
in
the
revenue,
because
if
we
do
have
a
vote
tonight
to
spend
the
revenue
and
then
for
whatever
reason
later
on,
the
ordinance
doesn't
pass
to
bring
in
that
revenue.
We've
just
created
a
budgetary
hole,
that's
pretty
severe.
K
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
that's
absolutely
correct.
I
guess
the
question
is:
what
are
we
doing
tonight
and
if,
if
we're,
if
we're
we're,
not
generating
the
funding,
because
that's
you'd
have
to
pass
an
ordinance
which
require
a
different
notice
for
a
different
item
to
be
on
an
agenda
and
require
two
votes
in
any
case,
so
we're
doing
something
else
in
anticipation
of
that
eventually
occurring
and
if
we're
just
changing
the
revenue
estimate
in
the
budget
without
then
making
a
commitment
to
spend
that
money,
you
might
ask
the
question
of.
Why
is
that?
K
What
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
was
the
point
of
like
I
sat
here
for
for
meeting
after
meeting
and
requested
budget
memos
like
what
what
was
I
just
spinning
my
wheels
or
what
was
the
point
of
me
requesting
those
budget
memos
on
a
whole,
I
have
a
whole
host
of
things
that
we
had
staff
prepare
memos
on.
K
K
Yeah
yeah
the
memos.
Obviously
the
memos
exist
I'm
reading
from
the
memos,
I'm
not
right.
I'm
saying
that
did
we
did.
I
just
request
a
memo
for
a
memo.
Saker
was
it
to
actually.
I
thought
that
by
requesting
the
memo
there
would
be
stuff
prepared,
so
we
could
act
on
the
memos
you
know.
So,
if
we're
just
requesting
memos,
how
did
how
did
some
memos
make
their
way
into
the
budget
and
other
memos
not
make
their
way
into
the
budget?.
A
A
K
A
I'm
hypothesizing,
so
I
if,
if
ms
gandersky
wants
to
speak
to
the
process
by
which
the
budget
memos
were
incorporated
in
the
development
of
this
evening's
draft,
I
think
that
might
be
helpful.
L
Are
you
saying
why
aren't
they
accompanying
ordinances
to
be
more
specific.
K
Yeah
I
mean
I
so,
for
example,
I
I
put
in
a
request
for
storm
for
the
head
tax
for
storm
water
fees,
for
progressive
rental
registration
fees.
For
that's
what
I'm
mentioning
now
for
the
wheel
tax
for
a
number
of
items
that
would
have
budget
impacts,
and
there
are
other
folks
who
put
in
things
that
have
budget
impacts
too.
So
I'm
just
curious
how.
K
And
then
also
earlier
in
this
process,
you
know
we
had
the
budget
for
discussion
and
we
were
told
then
that
hey
the
budget's
just
for
discussion.
We're
not
able
to
you
know,
make
amendments
at
that
point
or
make
any
motions
on
the
budget,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
When
was
the
time
to
to
get
this
stuff.
A
Incorporated
so
I
will
answer
that
question.
There's
a
to
my
eye,
there's
a
lot
different
in
the
budget.
That's
in
tonight's
packet
by
comparison
with
the
initial
staff
proposed
budget,
which
was,
I
think,
essentially
entirely
a
reaction
to
direction
given
during
those
discussions,
including
a
lot
of
direction
given
by
you
around
the
expansion
of
staff
positions.
A
So
I
think,
had
there
been
a
demonstration
in
those
discussions
that
there
was
widespread
support
from
council
to
advance
some
of
those
ideas.
I
would
presume
that,
like
the
ideas
that
were
incorporated,
we
would
we
would
have
seen
them
in
in
tonight's
budget
and
I
don't
think
staff
received
that
signal
and
again
I
I
didn't
see
ms
lewis
like
and
wants
to
speak
to
that.
But
that's
my
presumption
about
about
the
mechanism
by
which
what
we
see
tonight
was
actually
put
together.
AB
Sure
now
I'll
just
echo,
you
know
your
statements
that
the
the
changes
that
were
put
into
the
that
have
been
incorporated
in
the
budget
have
have
come
out
of
city
council
meeting
discussions.
The
budget
memos
are
are
intended
to
be
informational
and
and
provide
further
analysis
on
detail
of
what
is
contained
in
the
budget.
AB
If
something
is
a
new
policy,
a
new
ordinance,
a
new
kind
of
you
know,
would
would
need
a
new
policy
direction
from
the
city
council.
My
understanding
is
that
those
would
would
require
to
go
through
more
process
than
coming
through
the
budget,
specifically
so.
A
W
W
So
councilmember
when
first
well,
I
I
would.
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
interesting
topic.
I'm
referring
to
the
wheel
tax
issue.
I
I
was
on
the
council.
The
last
time
we
raised
wheel
tax.
There
was
a
great
deal
of
of
discussion
about
it,
including
public
comment.
W
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
topic
that
we
should
address
at
the
finance
and
budget
committee
to
understand
the
implications
of
this.
Not
everyone's.
Second
car
is
a
luxury
vehicle
or
are
a
luxury
to
their
family.
So
I
think
we
need
to
understand
that
better,
but
I'm
not
opposed
to
certainly
studying
it
and
looking
at
it.
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
were
raised
in
budget
memos,
that
this
council
wasn't
necessarily
prepared
to
act
on
in
this
budget,
but
certainly
would
be
points
of
study
for
the
finance
and
budget
committee.
Z
I
think
my
comments
are
along
the
same
line
as
council.
Member
wins
that
not
only
the
wheel
tax
idea,
but
several
other
others
that
council
member
reed
has
just
mentioned
are
really
important
policy
issues
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
a
further
more
detailed
conversation
about,
rather
than
trying
to
address
them
in
one
evening
during
a
budget
discussion.
So
I
guess
I
would
encourage
if,
if
all
of
these
belong
to
the
finance
and
budget
committee
you're
going
to
be
very
busy,
there
may
be
some
that
go
to
a
different
kind
of
committee.
Z
But
just
just
because
we're
not
going
to
deal
with
them
tonight
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
look
at
them
further.
K
Thank
you.
If
I
can
just
one
last
point
of
information
and
then
I
will
add
a
number
of
other
emotions,
but
I'm
seeing
the
trend,
then
I'm
going
to
drop
them.
So
my
question
is
just
to
understand
that,
to
recap
the
process
the
budget
was
introduced
on
october.
10Th
is
my
memory,
something
along
those
lines.
K
We
had
a
discussion
on
it
and
the
first
time
it
was
up
for
introduction
was
november,
8th
or
whatever
it
was
early
november.
So
this
is
the
second
time
it's
coming
to
council
with
the
opportunity
to
make
amendments
to
it.
So
we
had
a
very
an
almost
month
and
two
week
turnaround
process.
K
And
then
you
know
through
the
committees,
it
just
seems.
Like
I
see
we
have
the
finance
and
budget
committee
going
forward.
You
know
starting
for
next
year,
but
this
year's
process
seems
really
truncated
and
doesn't
seem
to
allow
for
much
real
input
from
the
elected
representatives.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
feedback.
I
would.
I
would
say
that
one
lesson
that
I
think
I'll
be
thinking
about
a
lot
next
year.
That
will
probably
be
beneficial
for
all
of
us.
Is
that
there's
a
variety
you're?
I
think
you
really
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
there's
a
variety
of
different
kinds
of
changes
to
the
budget.
A
I
think
those
that
require
that
additional,
you
know,
sort
of
those
that
are
not
just
a
tweaking
of
a
number,
but
a
change
in
how
we
do
something
are
ones
that
I'll
just
be
starting
early
on,
because
I
agree
that
the
the
time
period
in
the
last
six
weeks
was
relatively
truncated
to
make
really
significant
controversial
policy
changes.
That
would
require
a
lot
of
public
input
and
and
generate
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
concern,
and
so
we
should
start
earlier
for
ones
like
that.
A
U
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
explain
why
the
projected
revenue
for
22
is
actually
less
than
the
projected
year-end
revenue
for
this
year.
I
think
it's
about
330
thousand
dollars
less.
It
seems,
like
you
know,
throws
of
covid
that
we
should
expect
an
increase
overall
next
year.
V
U
AC
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
the
committee
members
of
city
council,
I
mean
one
thing
in
general
when
we
budget
for
the
revenues.
AC
Obviously
we
are
a
little
bit
conservative
and
I
think
I
have
mentioned
a
couple
of
times
at
the
council
that
I
want
to
have
the
real
cash
in
the
bank,
so
that
what
I
mean
is
that
the
fund
balance,
and
even
when
we
were
doing
the
budget
last
year,
you
know-
and
we
looked
at
the
number
then
when
we
did
this
years
there
was
something
like
we
heard
that
state
government
changed
something
about
the
use
tax
and
we
thought
that
that
might
hurt
us
by
a
couple
of
hundred
thousand
the
way
there.
AC
When
you
order
online
and
the
way
the
taxes
are
coming
in,
that
might
hurt
us.
At
the
same
time,
we
heard
about
the
income
tax
and
some
changes
to
the
pprt
tax,
how
they
allocate
the
money
to
us
and
it's
a
wild
swing.
I
mean.
Suddenly
I
got
the
money
which
is
like
three
times
higher
this
year,
but
obviously
we
would
not
get
the
same
thing.
AC
I
just
got
the
letter
from
department
of
revenue
that
this
is
only
one
time
payment
because
of
this
reason,
but
next
time
again
you
would
be
back
to
your
2020
level.
So,
yes,
I
mean
when
we
compare
the
numbers,
whether
it's
income
tax
like
building
permits
real
estate
transfer
tax.
Yes,
we
are
over.
AC
I
don't
think
I
would
get
the
same
amount.
Yes
at
least
I'm
optimistic
and
I
hope
I'm
wrong,
but
my
point
is
as
a
finance
person.
I
have
to
be
realistic
of
the
thing
and
I
can't
just
say:
okay,
I
got
these
numbers
in
2020,
so
I
would
get
the
same
amount
in
real
estate,
transfers,
tax
or
personal
property
tax,
and
some
of
the
taxes
like
sales
tax
income
tax
and
all
that
allocation
are
beyond
our
control.
That's
subject
to
the
state.
You
know
when
they
allocate
purpose
and
revenue.
AC
In
the
past
they
have
taken
10
percent
of
our
income
tax,
motor
fuel
taxes,
so
at
the
same
time,
some
of
the
local
revenues.
The
good
examples
are
real
estate
transfer
tax
building
permits.
If
I
make
my
2020
as
a
base
or
2021
as
a
base,
I
might
be
wrong
sometimes-
and
I
hope
I'm
wrong,
but
yes,
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
So
that's
why
we
always
try
to
be
conservative.
AC
When
we
look
at
the
revenue,
then
again
I
think
I've
mentioned
in
the
past
when
you
look
at
the
or
you
make
the
decisions
right
now
or
in
the
next
year,
whether
like
at
the
time
of
budget,
you
look
at
our
fund
balance
and
you
see
it
is
okay.
Now
we
have
four
million
five
million
more
than
our
two
months
requirement.
AC
Definitely
use
that
in
and
thereby
reduce
the
bond
funding
or
something
like
that,
but
I
want
to
see
that
money
in
our
bank-
I
just
don't-
want
to
be
like
too
optimistic
and
then
end
up
spending
more
and
that
has
happened
too.
So
I
I
I
like
to
be
cautious.
Yeah.
U
So
I
mean
I
can
see
it's
conservative
for
staff,
not
for
taxpayers.
It
just
doesn't
seem
at
this
point
when
we're
coming
out
of
the
throes
of
covert
we're
going
into
22
with
sales
tax
likely
to
increase
that
we
would
be
estimating
a
reduction.
Can
you
just
sum
it
up
for
me?
Why
you
think
it's
going
to
be
reduced.
AC
AC
We
may
not
get
that
number
and
that
has
happened
just
like
building
permit
and
we
learned
the
lesson
from
building
permit.
When
we
one
year
we
got
eight
and
a
half
million,
we
tried
to
budget
the
same
amount
and
then
we
got
four
and
a
half
million
next
year.
So
my
point-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
taxes
too,
which
are
home
rule
taxes,
our
own.
You
know
like
gas
tax,
I
mean
if
there's
prices
go
down
like
I
have
seen
like
our
gas
utility
taxes.
AC
That
fluctuate
a
lot
because
it
depends
on
prices.
So,
if
the
couple
of
years
we
had
high
prices,
we
got
more
money,
we
budgeted
a
little
bit
higher.
Suddenly
the
supply
market
was
good
in
the
electricity
and
gas,
and
our
taxes
go
down
too
so,
and
these
are
big
numbers.
So
if
I
just
make
one
good
number
as
a
base,
you
know
the
positive
number
I
might
end
up
hurting
the
budget
for
the
next
year.
H
AC
Be
aware
of
the
income
tax
few
years
back
that
when
the
state
government
made
decisions
suddenly
say,
okay,
we'll
give
you
10
less
in
your
income
tax.
So
these
are.
These
are
the
examples
yeah?
So
that's
why?
Yes,
when
I
say
conservative
is
not
just
that.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
be
conservative
without
any
logical
reasoning,
but
we
look
at
the
trend.
We
look
at
the
things.
We
see
the
potential
risk
too,
whether
it's
the
home
rule
tax
or
this
kind
of
taxes
and
then
make
our
decisions
accordingly.
Z
Well,
I
appreciate
staff's
response
to
my
plea
for
adding
a
new
position
for
a
staff
member
who
would
work
on
enforcing
our
new
leaf
blower
policy.
I'm
very
grateful
for
that.
So
I'm
looking
at
the
page
page
19
in
our
packet,
which
lists
the
final
list
of
new
positions
and
positions
held
and
well
I'm
pleased
to
see
the
new
environmental
health
inspector
for
leaf
blower
enforcement.
Z
It
projects
not
hiring
that
person
until
july
first,
but
I
know
we
can
all
expect
a
lot
of
complaints
from
residents
in
the
spring
when
the
spring
cleanup
is
finished
and
people
it's
leaf,
blower
season
again
and
we'll
be
getting
complaints
about
gas-powered
leaf
blowers.
At
that
point,
and
also
it's
really
important
for
us
to
be
doing
a
serious
community
education
effort
really
starting
after
the
first
of
the
year,
because
landscaping
contractors
need
to
have
a
lot
of
advanced
warning
about
the
transition.
Z
M
Z
I
guess
I
am,
and
I
don't
know
how
to
make
an
amendment
on
this,
because
it's
in
it's
on
the
line
item
for
the
full
ninety
thousand
dollars,
but
it
says,
hold
to
july
1st.
Do
I
can
I
make
an
amendment
to
say
begin
that
position
on
january
1st?
Is
that
the
is
that
an
actual
amendment,
or
is
that
a
recommendation
account?
How
should
I,
how
should
I
handle
that?
Well,.
D
D
A
M
A
D
K
D
What
I've
tried
to
do
here
is
give
my
public
commitment
as
long
as
I'm
sitting
in
the
seat
as
long
as
I'm
in
charge,
and
the
staff
is
still
here
with
our
budget
and
finance
team
that
we
will
commit
to
holding
off
on
hiring
these
positions
when
we
say
we
will
for
the
sake
of
the
budget.
So
that's
why
we
outlined
it
here
for
the
packet
and
put
it
in
in
the
packet,
so
the
public
can
see.
D
A
You
don't
need
to
make
a
motion.
I
don't
think
I
think.
There's
I
mean
we
can
do
a
straw
poll
with
hand
raises.
We
can
come
back
with
a
resolution
at
the
next
council
meeting.
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
start
this
hiring
process
tomorrow,
no.
D
A
So
I
I
think
I
would
respectfully
suggest
that
we
can
move
forward
and
I
think
there
was
a
pretty
good
sense
given
and
we
can
have
any
sort
of
formal
conversation
going
forward
to
give
to
give
staff
the
the
clarity
they
need
that
they
would
not
be
breaking
a
commitment
to
the
community
and
to
the
council
by
moving
forward
on
a
different
calendar
than
what's
enumerated
in
the
packet.
Okay,.
U
AC
AC
Yes,
I
think,
can
you
check,
I
think
we
generally
post
the
actual
report,
but
I
can
definitely
share
right
now,
after,
if
you
want
to
see
the
thing
and
one
thing
which
I
think
is
maybe
the
right
time,
both
the
pension
boards,
the
police
pension,
they
generally
ask
for
the
pension
levy
at
six
and
a
quarter
percent
investment
return,
which
means
extra
million
million
and
have
more
than
what
we
are
suggesting
in
the
past
city
council
has
been
suggested
at
six
and
a
half
which
is
the
rate
used
by
the
state.
AC
We-
and
I
think
I
have
mentioned
in
one
of
those
things-
that
we
contribute-
maybe
million
million
and
have
more
than
the
state
minimum
mandate
for
each
pension
fund,
but
obviously
that's
a
burning
issue.
I
mean
most
communities
are
using
what
we
call
entry
abnormal
and
we
are
even
contributing
at
a
level
dollar
which
is
contributing
more
to
the
thing.
Yes,
there
are
maybe
very
handful
communities
which
are
looking
at
a
couple
of
options
to
kind
of
get
rid
of
this
not
get
rid
of,
but
somehow
to
tackle
this
pension
liabilities.
AC
One
of
them
is
the
kind
of
a
rolling
amortization
which
means
like
right
now.
Our
goal
by
the
state
statute
is
90
by
2040,
so
we
have
like
19
20
years,
left
by
rolling
amortization
of
15
years,
but
what
that
means
is,
I
will
have
to
come
to
the
city
council
and
ask
for
a
couple
of
millions
more
because
now
the
amount
the
amortization
period
has
gone
down.
AC
The
other
thing,
which
has
been
a
great
discussion
and
now
particularly
in
the
low
interest
environment,
has
become
a
kind
of
a
at
the
forefront,
at
least
among
the
finance
directors
and
with
the
city
councils,
issuing
the
pension
obligation,
bonds,
obviously
gfoa
our
finance
officers,
association
at
the
u.s
and
canada
they're
kind
of
against
this.
For
so
many
other
reasons,
because
this
number
is
actually
changing
every
day
you
know,
pension
obligation
is
a
variable
amount.
People
retire,
people
die
pension
disability.
AC
What
not
so
it's
continually
changing
if
we
issue
a
bond
400
million
today
and
say:
oh,
let's
pay
off
these
100
million
penalty.
I
mean
liability
next
day
again.
Suddenly
they
lose
20
in
the
market
next
year.
What
happens
we
still
might
them?
I
might
have
to
come
to
the
council.
Say:
yeah
contribute
15
million.
You
said
why
and
I
have
to
say
yeah:
they
lost
20
in
the
market.
So
that's
right.
So
some
of
those
communities
who
have
a
smaller
amount
of
pension
liabilities
under
15
20
million.
AC
U
AC
A
L
I
just
want
to
understand
the
property
tax
increase,
because,
where
I'm
sitting
and
I've
said
this
during
the
campaign
and
unless
there's
no
other
way
to
to
address
it,
I
can't
vote
on
a
budget
with
the
property
tax
increase.
So
I
need
to
understand
how
do
we?
L
How
do
we
get
there
and
you
know
and
and
that
flows
into
my
other
question,
which
I
talked
to
city
manager,
gandursky
about
if
there's
a
way
to
hold
off
on
some
of
these
positions
that
are
held
vacant?
Currently,
we,
you
know,
I
understand
we,
we
need
a
ton
of
new
positions
and
we
need
to
fill
vacant
positions
to
understand
it.
But
we
went
through.
We
scrutinized
the
new
positions
up
here
and
we
were
able
to
reduce
it.
L
I
think
it
by
half
or
maybe
a
little
less
than
half,
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
the
potentially
the
same
thing
with
the
positions
that
are
that
we're
being
asked
to
fill,
especially
if
it's
going
to
result
in
an
increase
in
property
taxes.
That's
where
I'm
at,
but
I
want
to
just
get
a
better
understanding
of
how
we
got
there
and
and
then
also
how
much
you
know
what
what
is
the
dollar
amount
is
like.
I
think
it's
I
saw
400
some
thousand
dollars,
but
please,
okay,
thank
you.
AB
So
that
is
the
increase
on
one
of
the
levees
that
you
are
considering
tonight.
The
total
city
levy,
including
our
debt
service
levy,
is
not
proposed
to
increase,
so
that
will
remain
flat.
Why
you
don't
see
that
in
quite
the
same
way
is
that
the
debt
service
levy
was
actually
established
by
the
abatement
resolutions
that
were
passed
at
the
last
council
meeting,
so
the
debt
service
levy
will
be.
You
know
that's
based
on
when
we
issue
bonds,
the
county
receives
those
those
bond
reports
with
the
with
the
principal
and
interest
schedule
for
those
bonds.
AB
They
will
levy
that
principle
and
interest
each
year
just
on
its
face
value.
If
we
don't
do
anything,
what
council
did
at
the
last
meeting
was
said,
we're
going
to
abate
a
portion
of
that
principle
and
interest
cut
our
debt
service
levy
down
to
a
different
number,
so
that
debt
service
levy
is
14.6
million
in
gross
the
net
net
number
is
13.9
million,
so
there's
a
that's
a
decrease
from
last
year,
so
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
the
city
levy
that
that
is
up
for
consideration
tonight.
AB
A
AB
Yeah
and
it's
just
two
different
portions
of
our
levy
that
we
have
to
deal
with
in
two
different
ways
but
again
on
the
page,
three
of
or
I'm
sorry,
that's
in
the.
If
you're,
if
you're
under
the
item,
99021
the
city
tax
levy,
there
is
sort
of
the
full.
V
AB
Sorry,
I'm
on
the
agenda,
not
the
packet,
so
let
me
get
that
pulled
up
real
quick
it'll,
be
page
22
of
the
packet
tonight
is
where
you'll
see
the
the
full
summary
of
the
tax
levy,
which
again
includes
the
debt
service
fund
22
of
the
packet.
AB
L
AC
AC
Obviously,
if
the
debt
service
levy
and
yeah
I
mean
if
the
market
or
the
interest
rate
continues
like
that,
like
a
flat
low
environment,
then
I
think
that
would
be
beneficial,
but
I
think
you
hear
that
okay,
at
least
there
might
be
a
rate
increase
at
least
one
next
year,
and
that
might
push
the
what
you
call
our
rates
up
so
so
it
depends
on
yeah
how
the
thing
work
out
when
we
issue
the
bonds
next
year
for
the
amount
and
the
interest
rate
environment.
AC
The
other
thing
is
the
other
big
factor
is
a
pension.
I
think
we
expect.
Obviously
we
don't
control
the
stock
market,
but
at
least
with
the
centralized
investment
pool
coming
in
place
for
both
the
fire
pension
and
police
pension.
We
might
see
some
savings
there.
I
guess
you
know
it
could
be
in
the
long
run,
but
again
we
might
see
some.
I
think
our
fire
pension
board
is,
I
think,
working
to
have
it
effective,
even
one
one.
AC
Twenty
twenty
two,
even
though
the
I
think
the
date
required
is
july,
one
twenty
twenty
two,
so
we
might
have
some
kind
of
additional
investment
earnings
like
a
battle
like
the
imrf
is
managed
from
the
investment
standpoint
and
at
the
same
time
at
least
as
of
now,
we
don't
know
yeah
we,
the
economy
and
our
revenues,
and
they
look
strong
so
and
we
have
even
based
on
2020
general
fund
fund
balance.
L
And
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
there
anything
that
can
trigger
us
to
have
to
look
back
at
this?
If
we
need
to
because
what
I
don't
want
to
happen,
is
I
want
to
be
able
to
track
this
and
that
if,
if
the
things
don't
happen,
the
way
we
hope
with
the
debt
service
levy?
If
that
increases
that
we
have
to
look
back
at
this,
and-
and
we
can
have
that
conversation,
so
we
know
if
we
need
to
make
the
adjustments
right.
H
L
Them
to
trust
us
on
this
and
that
if
things
don't
work
out
with
the
debt
service
levy
down
the
road
that
will
adjust
the
property
tax
levy
at
that
point
in
other
areas,
so
it
won't
effectively
result
in
a
property
tax
increase
and
that's
that's
a
lot
to
monitor
as
a
community
member
that
doesn't
trust.
What's
going
on
up
here
already
and
we'll
get
there
right.
AC
I
mean
one
of
the
things
which
we
did
in
the
past
and
then
we
discontinued
for
the
transparency
purposes.
We
used
to
transfer
funds
out
of
general
fund
for
the
debt
service
levy
to
keep
it
flat.
We
transferred
the
funds
from
general
fund
and
I
think
in
1819
right.
We,
I
think
discontinued
last
year
to
have
a
better
transparency
that
okay,
what
is
the
real
requirement
for
the
bond
debt
service?
You
know,
so
we
don't
want
to
kind
of
we
used
to
artificially
lower
it
by
transferring
million
million
and
have
one
general
fund.
AC
You
know,
and
that
could
be
a
possibility
if
the
things
go
real
south,
because
and
particularly
the
way,
the
general
fund
fund
balance
is
looking
right
now
and
the
way
the
issue
looking.
You
know
we
might
have
a
healthy
fund
balance,
the
arpa
or
some
of
the
other
things
yeah.
We
can
look
at
those
options
in
case
that
happens.
L
L
If
you
need
my
vote,
you
know
I'm
just
being
real.
I
need
that
and
I
got
some
other
questions
too
so
I'll
leave
that
there,
but
I
am
so
serious
about
that.
I
can't
I
can't
play
these
games
with
this.
This
is
important.
The
other
thing
is.
I
also
made
a
request
for
an
amendment
to
the
budget
around
kiosks
that
will
allow
people
from
to
kind
of
sell
they'll,
be
these
sell
serve
sites
throughout
evanston,
where
they'll
be
able
to
pay
wheel,
tax
parking
tickets
in
in
waterville.
L
In
my
opinion,
this
is
this
is
one
of
those
areas
where
we
can
use
a
bit
of
technology
to
help
us
hopefully
collect
more
revenue
as
a
city
and
then
over
time
as
positions
in
the
collector's
office
as
people
retire.
You
know
we
might
be
able
to
hold
those
positions
vacant
and-
and
this
is
something
that
that
staff
as
a
concept
supports
we've.
I've
been
talking
to
to
dave
about
this
as
well
as
luke
stowe.
L
This
is
something
that
they've
discussed
and
thought
about
for
a
while,
they're
supportive,
not
necessarily
on
making
the
amendment
today
but
they're.
They
were
going
to
look
at
the
numbers
and
then
something
came
up
with
staffs
that
I
won't
go
into,
but
they
were
supposed
to
have
it
ready
by
today.
It's
not
ready,
it's
something
that
I'm
really
passionate
about.
It's
important
to
me.
L
So
I'm
also
expecting
that
to
be
for
to
know
what
those
those
numbers
are
before
I
support
a
budget
and
then-
and
then
I
like,
I
said
I
had
a
conversation
with
city
manager,
gandursky
about
the
vacant
positions,
the
equity
position
as
an
example.
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
that's
something.
We
need
to
take
action
on
right
now.
L
L
We
don't
have
any
real
system
set
up
right
now,
any
good
system
to
manage
how
we
do
boards
committees
and
commissions
and
keep
it
all
aligned
so
that
there's
no
duplicative
work
and
that
we're
not
we're
not
having
people
work
on
things
and
then
it
gets
to
council
and
there's
no
vote
on
it.
So
I
just
don't
think
we're
ready.
We
don't
necessarily
need
to
hire
an
equity
coordinator
at
this
point.
L
A
X
L
AD
K
K
A
X
AB
So
there
are
two
pieces
to
this
answer.
The
first
one
that
is
sort
of
more
we've
talked
about
works.
It's
related
to
the
general
fund
is
where
the
revenue
loss
money
is
and
how
that's
touching
the
general
fund
and
have
we
how
we've
budgeted
that
now
in
the
revised
visit
budget,
is
4.2
million
of
arpa
money
going
to
the
general
fund
to
support
general
fund
operations
and
some
a
couple
of
one-time
costs
that
have
been
added.
So
that's
the
amount.
That's
there
and.
AB
No,
those
are
items
that
are
part
of
this
budget.
This
is
the
the
one-time
expenses
here.
Are
the
I'm
sorry
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
software
for
the
permit
desk
and
then
the
rest
of
it
is
to
go
towards
supporting
general
fund
operations
again
staffing
coming
from
that
revenue
loss
category
so
that
that
number
is
4.2
million.
AB
The
remaining
amount
of
sort
of
arpa
money
to
be
spent
is
in
the
arpa
fund,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
other
transfers
that
we
have
budgeted:
2.3
million
to
the
park,
new
parking
fund
for
revenue
loss
there,
1.6
million
for
equipment
replacement
and
then
the
remainder
is
just
sort
of
budgeted
in
a
lump
number
right
now
in
anticipation.
That
council
will
continue
that
discussion
about
the
specific
spending
coming
out
of
that.
AB
AB
So
the
sort
of
the
the
buckets
that
would
be
defined
by
your
vote
tonight
is
that
revenue
loss
side
of
things,
so
the
the
13
million
and
how
that
gets
broken
out
and
that's
changed
a
little
bit
based
on
our
discussions
and
how
we've
how
we've
sort
of
adjusted
the
budget-
but
that
is
the
only
portion
I
see,
is
getting
more
solidified
by
tonight's
vote.
The
rest
again
would
is
sort
of
in
the
budget,
so
it's
available
for
spending,
but
I
would
expect
that
to
that
to
all
come
back
to
council
first,
so.
X
AB
Yeah
and
those
specific
items
that
have
sort
of
been
discussed
throughout
and
how
those
break
up
some
I'm
sorry,
some
of
that
13
million
was
spent
in
21
right.
U
AB
So
it's
it's
revenue
lost
money,
that's
going
to
the
general
fund,
so
it's
offsetting
costs
across
all
the
departments.
You
know.
1.1
million
of
that
is
these
two
one-time
expenses
that
they
noted
and
the
rest
is
going
to
support
general
fund
expenses,
including
salaries.
So.
U
D
M
U
I
don't
know
if
everyone
had
a
chance
to
read
jamie
collier,
robin's
letters
which
were
incredibly
helpful,
and
I
thank
her
for
this
work
and
making
these
graphs
that
we
all
got
these
emails.
But
from
what
I'm
understanding,
it
seems
that
our
general
fund
staff
is
was
predicting
kind
of
like
last
year,
where
this
didn't
turn
out
right
either
it
was
predicting
it
to
be.
U
One
point
I
think:
1.9
million-
let's
see,
I
think
it
looks
like
according
to
hers
that
we're
going
to
end
up
with
2
million
dollars
more
than
what
is
in
the
general
fund
than
what's
predicted
and
last
year.
Actually
she
was
right
and
we
ended
up
with
almost
you
know
exactly
what
she
was
predicting
more
that
we'd
have
than
what
staff
had
predicted.
U
So
I
think,
did
everybody
see
these
charts,
so
I'm
just
wondering
because
it
looks
like
we're
actually
going
to
end
up
with
a
lot
with
a
lot
more
fun,
not
only
in
the
general
fund,
but
in
other
funds
as
well.
According
to
these
charts
and
by
the
way,
just
I
just
want
to
for
the
record,
the
actuality
report
is
not
posted.
We
do
not
have
it.
It
came
out,
I
believe
in
august,
and
we
don't.
We
have
not
seen
that
we
don't
have
access
to
it
yet.
AB
So,
just
a
response
on
on
revenues
coming
in
high
the
advantage
of
again
how
we
sort
of
structured
this
budget
in
this
plan,
because
we're
proposing
to
put
some
arpa
money
towards
the
general
fund
next
year.
If
revenues
come
in
high
in
21,
we
can
reduce
the
amount
of
arpa
going
to
the
general
fund.
We
can
use
more
fund
balance
instead,
if
they
again
come
in
high
in
22,
we
can
use
less
fund
balance
roll
that
over
into
capital
again
free
up
more
arpa
to
go
to
more
purposes.
AB
U
AB
U
B
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
police
pension
fund
report
was
sent
to
the
council.
Since
you
are
saying
you
didn't
receive
it.
I
want
to
clarify
that
it
wasn't
to
the
city
council
distribution
list,
it
is,
and
I
can
forward.
I
can
forward
it
to
you
with
your
with
a
distribution
list
on
there.
The
the
the
police
pension
board
did
send
it
to
us,
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it
was
sent
to
the
council.
B
What
sorry
so
the
police
was
sent
to
you,
so
I
did
not
receive
the
fire
one,
but.
AC
But
I
just
need
to
clarify
a
center
to
the
council.
Even
I
have
sent
to
the
cage,
so
we
can
post
it.
I
just
sent
the
email
to
the
city
council
for
both
the
police,
fire
numbers
which
are
based
on
the
full
detail.
Report
is
based
on
a
six
and
a
quarter
person,
and
then
there
is
a
separate
two
page
report
which
is
based
on
a
six
and
a
half
person
and
yeah
any
question
they
all
be
ready
to
entertain.
But
then
we
will
post
it
to
you
tomorrow
on
the
city
website,.
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
This
is
back
on
the
topic
of
arpa
allocations
and,
as
I've
been
saying
for
some
time
now,
like
I
really
want
to
have
a
once
and
for
all
final
discussion
on
allocating
funds
between
the
various
arpa
buckets
and
so
now
that
I've
had
a
chance
to
digest
what
kate
has
said
about
13
million
from
revenue
loss
like
I
am
uncomfortable
making
that
allocation
without
taking
the
broader
arpa
context
into
consideration.
X
So
I
don't
want
to
delay
this
process.
You
know,
otherwise,
I'm
prepared
to
you
know,
wouldn't
be
prepared
to
vote
for
the
budget
tonight.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
move
money
from
the
revenue
loss
line
item
into
the
general
arpa
fund
category,
which
would
allow
us
to
vote
for
the
approve
the
budget
tonight
without
changing
any
other
numbers
and
defer
the
discussion
on
how
much
to
put
in
the
revenue
loss
bucket
until
a
broader
conversation
on
arpa.
AB
S
AB
AB
X
I
I'm
just
not
very
happy
that
we
are
once
again
kind
of
piecemealing
an
arpa
discussion
that
I
would
like
to
have
once
and
for
all
holistically,
rather
than
just
chipping
away
at
piecemeal.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying.
I
understand
I'm
not
super
pleased
with
the
answer,
but
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from.
U
Kelly,
so
I
just
you
know,
I'm
concerned
that
that
we're
about
to
vote
on
this
and
I
feel
like
there's
still
too
many
questions
and
I'd
like
to
move
to
hold,
I
guess
table
until
our
december
6th
meeting.
Is
that
right,
I'm
sorry.
What
is
it.
A
V
Actually,
as
a
special
order
of
business,
so
they
can't
be
held,
but
they
can
be
tables
and.
A
V
U
M
A
Let's,
let's,
let's
let
the
lawyer
answer
the
question:
is
it
possible
to
table
a
special
order
of
business
to
our
december
6th
special.
AA
Counsel
meeting,
so
my
understanding
is
that
the
budget
needs
to
be
passed
during
a
regular
city
council
meeting,
so
it
had
to
be
the
13th,
so
it
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
the
6th,
the
6th
of
the
special
meeting.
What,
but,
as
far
as,
insofar
as
tabling
it
to
the
13th,
a
special
order
business
could
be
tabled,
although
it
has
the
same
effect
as
a
hold
which
is
not
allowed
by
your
city
council
rules,
but
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
not
being
able
to
table
it.
U
I
mean,
I
think
we
do
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
pension,
which
is
such
an
important
part
of
our
budget.
I
mean,
I
think
we
need
to.
We
do
need
to
reconcile
the
funding
request
by
the
pension
board
with
what's
being
budgeted,
and
we
haven't
just
I
mean
we're
getting
part
of
it
now
and
I
I
think,
there's
also
questions
about
you
know
I'm
looking
at
these
graphs
too.
U
I
think
there's
we're
going
to
end
with
just
like
last
year,
with
millions
of
dollars
more
than
in
our
in
some
of
our
funds
in
the
general
fund
and
others.
I
just
want
to
have
these
reconciled
before
we
vote
to
increase
a
general
fund,
even
though
yes,
I
understand
that
it's
going
to
be
flat,
that,
overall,
that
the
tax
is
not
going
to
go
up.
A
V
So
can
I
have
a
point
of
information
to
understand.
I
think
it's
our
responsibility
to
the
taxpayers
and
for
me
to
know
seeing
that
I've
in
the
past
10
years.
I've
never
sat
on
a
city
council
that
have
not
passed
the
budget
and
I
definitely
don't
want
to
start
this
evening.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
either
our
city
manager,
who
former
corporation
council.
K
K
Point
of
information
just
because
the
motion
was
to
table
until
the
13th.
I
understand,
if
that
is
the,
if
that's
actually
a
desire,
but
we
do
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
this.
Sixth
and
again,
I
know
that's
an
arpa
meeting,
but
just
as
a
point
of
technicality,
we
would
be
able
to
table
to
a
special
meeting.
I
don't
know
of
anything
in
state
code.
That
would
specifically
say
that
the
budget
has
to
be
passed
at
a
regular
meeting
and
it
couldn't
be
passed
at
a
special
meeting.
AA
Cosby
I
just
lost,
I
lost
my
place
where
I
was
looking
at
that
before,
because
I
was
looking
for
the
other
answer
that
was
just
asked.
So
you'll
have
to
get
back
to
me
on
that
with
respect
to
whether
it
could
be
a
special
meeting
or
a
regular
meeting,
but
my
understanding
originally
was
that
had
to
be
a
regular
meeting.
But
there's
it's
there's
two
different
places:
there's
a
budget
act
and
there's
municipalities
act
to
deal
with
the
budgets,
so
I've
been
flipping
pages.
So
you
get
to
come
back
to
me
on
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
one
thing
is
very
clear:
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
pass
a
budget
using
a
procedural
mechanism.
That's
inconsistent
with
state
law,
so
correct.
So
on
you
know
I
would
again
I
don't
get
a
vote,
but
I
would
strongly
or
just
against
doing
something
that
our
attorney
is
not
convinced
is
legal.
A
K
So
I
mean
I'd
still
encourage
council
comings
to
look
into
this,
but
I
will,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
controversy
about
that
being
in
compliance
with
the
state
law.
So
I
will
second
the
motion
to
table
it
to
the
13th,
although
I
would
like
to
see
it
done
sooner
on
the
sixth,
if
possible,.
A
So
there's
an
emotion
in
a
second.
I
think
there
seems
to
be
desire
from
the
person
who's
second
of
the
motion
to
get
some
further
clarification
about
state
law
before
any
vote
occurs.
While
we're
doing
that,
council
member
braithwaite
had
a
question
about
the
the
ramifications
of
voting
on
a
budget
on
december
13th.
I
don't
know
if
that's
mr
desai's
area
or
mr
cummings
or
ms
gandersky,
but
it's
obviously
an
important
question.
AC
Good
evening
again
I
mean
by
law.
You
have
to
pass
the
budget
before
the
start
of
the
fiscal
year
new
fiscal
year,
which
is
january
1..
So
yes,
technically,
you
can
pass
it
by
december
31st.
One
of
the
big
aspect
of
the
budget
is
the
tax
levy
and
that
has
to
be
filed
by
the
last
tuesday
with
the
cook
county.
Obviously,
we
need
some
time
after
the
city
council
passes.
Have
it
signed
by
the
mayor.
The
clerk
notarized
make
copies
and
submit
it
to
silicon.
D
To
speak
for
staff,
we
can't
do
that
in
a
day,
so
there
has
to
be
a
and
I
know
staff
has
holiday
plans
and
there's
days
off
and
there's
documents
that
need
to
be
prepared
and
if
there's
an
error
that
needs
to
be
corrected,
that's
happened,
so
I
I
can
tell
you,
because
I
did
the
research
last
year's
corporation
council.
If
you
don't
pass
a
budget
by
the
end
of
the
year,
your
assets
can
get
frozen
by
the
state,
so
at
least
your
general
fund.
So
I
know
you
know
there.
D
D
V
D
State
statute
requires
municipalities
to
pass
a
budget
before
the
end
of
the
year
before
the
start
of
the
fiscal
year.
The
state,
if
that's
not
done,
I
believe
I
think
during
the
pandemic.
I
don't
know
if
that's
still
in
play
now
with
emergency
orders,
there
was
a
little
bit
of
leeway
last
year
to
wait
until
you
could
do
it
by
the
end
of
january.
I
don't
know
if
that's
in
play
anymore.
V
D
V
D
W
AC
Last
tuesday,
in
december,
but
again
what's
the
process.
Like
suppose
you
pass
the
tax
levy,
which
is
an
important
piece
of
the
budget.
We
have
to
have
it
signed
by
the
mayor,
the
clerk
I
mean
somewhere,
even
I
sign
it,
and
obviously
we
make
the
copies
with
the
seal
and
all
that
verified
I
mean.
Last
year
we
had
so
many
changes
on
the
floor
that
we
caught
the
error
and
then
we
had
to
come
back
to
the
city
council.
AC
Obviously
we
were
glad
that
it
happened,
so
we
could
pass
it
in
the
december,
so
yeah.
What
manager
gandusky
said
that
yeah
I
mean
if
you
want
to
do
it
on
27th
I
mean
yeah,
that's
kind
of
a
yeah
which.
AC
AC
L
AC
Again,
yes,
it
is
up
no.
L
No,
no,
no
I'm
talking
about
when
this
will
come
back
right.
I
mean
because
I
understand
the
you
know
what's
at
play
here
where
people
want
to
make
it.
You
know,
but
we're
talking
about
december
13th
and
then
we're
talking
about
december
28th,
just
to
be
clear
to
the
public,
since
the
public
has
continued
to
be
referenced
here.
We're
talking
about
over.
I
think
two
weeks,
certainly
two
weeks
between
the
13th
and
the
28th
I
mean,
unless
I'm
this
will
come
back
what's
on
the
floor.
AC
It's
fine,
the
only
concern
which
is
what
happened
last
year,
that
if
we
find
something
in
the
tax
levy
and
all
that
because
the
county
goes
by
the
ordinance
we
file
with
them
about
the
tax
levy
and
if
there
are
potential
changes
or
something
or
if
we
find
something
I
mean
we
have
gone
through.
We
have
so
many
iterations
and
versions.
We
look
at
for
mathematical
accuracy
too,
but
there
is
no
room
for
us
to
come
back
to
you
in
december.
AC
W
Well,
I
just
want
to
say
we
have
always
left
ourselves
a
buffer
so
that
precisely
so
that
what
happened
last
year
gives
us
an
opportunity
and
the
staff
to
come
back
and
correct
it,
so
that
we
have
always
passed
the
budget
using
the
same
timeline
that
we
have
done
this
year
with
the
same
number
of
meetings,
and
I
recognize
there
are
new
members
of
the
council.
W
We've
had
other
new
members
of
the
council
before,
but
we
have
always
done
that
in
order
to
make
sure
that
if
there
was
an
issue
we
would
could
address
it
in
december
and
then
our
city
staff,
who
have
regularly
scheduled
vacations
and
family
events,
are
not
scrambling
at
the
last
minute,
and
I
I
am
prepared
to
vote
yes
on
this
budget
tonight.
I've
studied
it.
I've
read
all
the
budget
memos.
I've
listened
to
the
discussion
very
thoroughly.
W
I
had
a
ward
meeting
and
I
understand
there
may
be
still
some
questions
about
this,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
are
fundamentally
going
to
change
this
budget
at
this
point
and
for
next
year.
If
the
process
once
needs
to
be
different,
we
can
have
it
be
different.
We
used
to
meet
four
saturdays
in
a
row
four
saturday
mornings
in
a
row
and
if
that
needs
to
happen
again,
then
we'll
do
that
again.
U
Yeah-
and
I
think
you
know
many
of
us
ran
because
we
know
we
need
to
stop
the
bleeding
on
the
high
property
taxes
in
this
town
and
that's
why
that's?
Why
I'm
pushing
back,
and
I
think
we
need
to
reconcile
why,
when
our
tax
levies
are
remaining
so
high,
yet
reconcile
why
yet
the
fund
balances
are
increasing
and
human
services
in
the
general
fund,
like
I
need
that
reconciled.
U
U
I
need
that
reconciled.
So
that's
why
I'd
like
to
wait,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
need.
I
think
that
maybe
we
can
make
an
adjustment
between
now
and
the
13th.
A
Okay,
the
next
speaker
is
councilmember
reed
customer.
Your
time
is
way
up
for
the
broader
budget
discussion,
but
I'm
giving
people
a
reset
for
the
discussion
of
this.
This
this
table
motion.
K
Okay,
am
I
the
only
member
whose
time
is
up
on
the
budget
discussion?
So
as
far
as
the
the
table?
Here,
you
know
councilmember.
When
you
mentioned
a
good
point,
we
have
not
had
the
same
level
of
discussion
that
we've
had
in
previous
years,
in
that
you
mentioned
that,
and
I
recall
this
as
as
clerk
we
had
those
or
we
didn't
have
it
for
maybe
saturdays
during
my
time
as
clerk,
but
certainly
we
we
had
saturday
sessions
and
we
had
a
few
more.
K
K
Chicken
little
sky
is
falling
kind
of
discussion
where
you
know
if
we
didn't
pass
it
now,
you
know
our
assets
are
going
to
be
frozen
and
staff
isn't
going
to
be
paid
and
everything
is
is
going
to
going
to
be
horrible,
but
we
know
that
in
reality,
if
we
do
pass
this
on
the
13th,
there
would
be
enough
time
for
staff
to
get
this
in.
K
In
fact,
I
I
am
on,
I
firmly
believe,
and
I
I
firmly
believe
that
state
law
does
not
prohibit
us
from
adopting
a
budget
during
a
special
meeting
that
would
almost
be
you
know.
Why
would
the
state
set
a
city
up
to
almost
fail
where
you
couldn't,
you
know,
have
a
special
meeting
if
you
needed
to
to
adopt
your
budget,
so
I
would
be
thoroughly
shocked
if
that's
in
state
code,
I
think
it
can
be
adopted
at
a
special
meeting.
So
let's
say
on
the
I,
so
we
could
adopt
it
on
the
sixth.
K
We
could
adopt
it
on
the
13th
and
hey
if
staff
said
there's
some
issue,
there'd
be
nothing
assuming
my
assumption
is
correct.
There'd,
be
nothing
stopping
us
or
prohibiting
us
from
again
in
an
extreme
emergency
situation,
calling
a
special
meeting
virtually
if
we
need
to
just
adopt
a
budget.
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
the
case,
I
believe
in
our
staff.
K
I
think
you
know
a
mistake
was
made
last
year
and
I
think
folks
learned
from
mistakes
like
that,
and
so
I'm
pretty
sure
that
this
year
you
know,
we
can
assure
that
there
won't
be
a
mistake
and
then
also
last
year
we
passed
the
budget
in
december.
So
can
someone
remind
me
what
day
the
budget
was
passed
in
2020.
AB
K
Okay,
so
the
tax
levy,
the
thing
that
we're
really
concerned
about
here
right,
the
thing
that
has
to
be
in
we
have
until
the
last
day
for
the
budget
of
of
the
year.
But
you
know
the
tax
levy
is
the
thing
that
has
maybe
a
shorter
timeline.
Even
that
was
passed
last
year
on
the
14th,
so
it
seems,
staff
was
able
to
get
it
done.
Last
year,
I
remember
signing
off
as
clerk
on
it.
You
know
it's,
we
got
docusign,
so
I
I'm
supportive
of
this.
K
I
think
we
can
take
you
know,
while
we
haven't
had
those
saturday
sessions
that
we
that
members
of
the
council
and
the
public
are
used
to,
I
think
if
we
just
take
another
a
bit
of
time
to
look
this
over
and
allow
for
some
of
the
questions
that
a
number
of
council
members
have,
including
councilmember
newsman.
I
think
you
have
some
great
concerns
that
I
think
should
be
addressed
prior
to
adopting
this
if
possible.
So
thank
you.
AA
So
the
learned
council
member
from
the
eighth
award
is
correct.
You
could
pass
the
budget
at
whatever
meeting
you
want.
The
problem
is
rule
16.5
of
city
council
rules,
mandates
that
you
only
have
one
meeting
in
december
and
we're
already
having
a
special
meeting
and
a
regular
meeting
in
december.
AA
So
you
can
pass
it
at
whichever
meeting
you'd
like
if
you
want
to
table
it
to
that
meeting,
but
we're
only
supposed
to
have
one
meeting
in
december.
According
to
the
city
council
rules.
K
A
Okay
got
it
so
in
light
of
that
councilman
kelly,
do
you
want
to
draw
the
motion
and
make
the
other
motion.
K
U
U
A
U
Okay,
I'll
withdraw
my
motion
and
I'll
make
an
emotion.
Am
I
doing
this
all
in
one
one
fell
swoop:
okay
to
to
table
action
on
the
budget
until
the
sixth.
A
Is
there
a
second
second,
so
council
member
kelly
moves
to
table
just
the
vote
on
sp1
to
the
december
6th
special
meeting
council
member
reed
seconds?
Will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
table.
X
A
A
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
sp1,
so
councilmember
reed
your
time
is
up,
but
you
have
a
quick
comment:
go
ahead.
K
Mike
it's
not
on
yeah.
My
quick
comment
is
I
I
believe
we
really
need
councilmember
newsman,
I
think,
was
right
on
I'm
I'm
fully
supportive
of
this,
and
it
was
one
of
the
motions
I
was
anticipating
making.
I
think
we
need
to
pull
arpa
separate
of
the
funds
that
we're
putting
into
you
know
revenue
lost.
I
think
we
need
to
pull
arpa
out
of
the
budget
essentially,
and
I
do
have
one
question
for
or
so
with
money
that
is
so.
K
A
It
is
so
let
me
just
interject,
because
I
I
out
of
respect
for
the
importance
of
the
issue.
I
wanted
to
give
you
time
particularly
to
make
a
motion,
but
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
answer
this
question
and
then,
if
you
have
a
motion
to
make
I'd
like
to
entertain
the
motion
immediately
after
the
answer
to
this
question,.
AC
Yes,
so
as
far
as
the
our
2021
year
is
not
over
yet
so
we
go
by
the
audited
numbers
of
2020
and
which
has
a
17.4
million
dollar
in
fund
balance
in
general
fund,
which
equates
to.
Is
it
even
a
little
short
right
gate
of
16.66?
AC
AC
It
is
like
pretty
close
to
our
two
months
requirement,
which
is
the
goal
of
the
city
council.
Obviously,
when
we
complete
the
audit
for
this
year,
we'll
look
at
the
fund
balance
for
the
2021
and
the
total
for
the
balance.
K
Oh
I'm
sorry,
my
my
question
is:
how
is
the
reserve
fund
balance
earlier
mayor
biss
alluded
to
in
our
budget
being
essentially
just
expenditures
so
money
that
is
sitting
in
the
general
fund
reserve
and
is
not.
We
have
no
anticipation
of
spending
that
money
in
2022,
for
example.
AC
AC
Right:
it's
not
because
you
don't
budget
for
the
fund
balance,
which
is
called
like
a
balance
sheet
item.
What
the
budget
is
for
the
revenues
and
expenses.
We
do
put
the
what
you
call
the
fund
balance
from
the
last
year
and
estimated
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
22.
You
would
see
that
in
the
budget
yeah.
K
Right,
and
so
my
concern
is
in
line
with
the
arpa-
is
that
we
have
30
million
in
arpa.
Some
of
it
is,
you
know
we
have
decided
how
we're
going
to
spend
it.
We
know
that
it's
dedicated
toward
revenue
loss,
but
another
large
portion
of
it.
We
have
not
decided
how
it's
going
to
be
spent,
and
essentially
it's
just
money.
That's
could
be
seen
as
kind
of
sitting
in
our
reserve
fund
because
it
could
be
spent
2023
2024.
K
AC
So
we
were
transparent
from
the
day
one
it
was
in
the
budget.
It
was
in
our
transmitter
that,
okay,
how
this
13
million
is
made
up
of,
and
it's
not
entirely
general
fund.
I
think
kate
mentioned
that
almost
3
million
is
for
the
parking
for
an
operation
which
would
qualify
under
the
revenue
category.
Then
I
think
lara
is
here.
She
can
speak
for
a
long
time
that
how
much
money
parking
for
needs
for
their
capital
improvement.
AC
So
that's
why
we
decided
to
kind
of
incorporate
that
and
kind
of
put
it
out
there
in
a
transparent
manner
that
this
is
what
and
again
when
you
say,
the
30
million
dollar.
Even
if
you
approve
it
just
like
any
contract
like
cip
fund,
you
approve
10
million
dollar
when
we
actually,
the
staff
goes
out
and
beats
anything.
It
has
to
come
to
the
city
council
for
the
approval.
Again,
when
we
do
the
rfp
we
come
there,
we
come
with
the
recommendation.
The
staff
so
same
thing
is
the
30
million.
AC
If
you
are
spending
200
000
somewhere
as
a
part
of
that
as
a
project
like
in
parking
fund,
you
are
going
to
approve
2.4
million
capital
project.
Now
we
awarded
half
a
million
dollar
project.
Yes,
you
would
see
that
thing
that
this
is
the
thing,
and
these
are
the
prop
potential
bidders,
and
this
is
what
the
staff
recommend.
So
it
comes
to
the
city
council
yeah.
You
know
in
the
most
transparent
manner
every
time
where
it's
required.
K
Yeah,
if
I
can
get
one
so
the
dollar
amount.
Sorry,
the
dollar
amount
that
we're
talking
about.
That
is
not
the
revenue
replacement,
the
kind
of
unencumbered
portion
of
that
30
million
roughly.
What
is
that
or
really
almost
exactly?
What
is
that
kate.
AB
It's
about
25
million
and
again
that
is
not
it's
in
the
budget
ordinance
so
that
it
can
be
spent
out
of
that
fund.
We
don't
have
to
stand
up
to
that
total.
We
don't
spend
up
to
our
total
expenditure,
budgeted
amount
in
many
of
our
funds
every
year
right.
We
budget
it
so
that
you
have
the
option
of
considering
contact
contracts
and
expenses
within
that
dollar
amount.
AB
If
you
want
to
spend
more
than
that,
if
the
revenue
is
there,
then
it
would
be
a
budget
amendment,
but
that's
why
we
chose
that
25
million
dollars
to
just
kind
of
try
and
catch
what
we
would
be
getting
in
arpa
next
year
and
what
could
be
spent
next
year.
It
is
sort
of
the
universe.
It
is
not
what
city
council
has
obligated
to
spend,
or
you
know
what
what
has
been
chosen
to
be
spent
so
far,
so
it
is.
It
is
again
sort
of
one
number
in
the
budget
of
budget
ordinance.
Thank.
K
You
so
with
that
I
would
move
to
remove
25
million
dollars
in
the
opera
funding
from
the
budget.
Again,
we
would
still
have
the
ability
to
come
back
at
any
point
during
the
year.
The
money
is
going
to
be
there
like
it's
in
the
reserve
fund
when
we
receive
it,
and
at
that
point
we
can
make
allocations
to
you
know
the
arpa
eligible
uses
that
we
see
fit,
but
by
placing
the
funds
in
the
budget
it
it.
K
The
motion
that
we
removed
25
million
from
the
arpa
line
item-
25
million-
are
performed
from
the
budget
and
alloc.
That's
it.
A
So
the
motion
dies
for
lack
of
a
second
council
member
well.
X
I'm
sorry
there's
still
an
underlying
motion
I'll
I'll
address
that
councilman.
I
very
much
appreciate
where
you
were
going
there
trying
to
not
get
ahead
of
ourselves
in
our
arpa
allocation,
which
you
know
I
and
others
have
been.
You
know
very
adamant
about
you
know
we
should
have
that
discussion
holistically
and
make
these
bucket
allocations
in
a
separate
meeting
in
a
separate
discussion.
I'm
I'm
disappointed.
We
are
dipping
into
or
defining
a
bucket.
You
know
kind
of
not
inadvertently,
but
by
passing
this
budget
we
will
be
defined
in
a
bucket.
X
X
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
still
have
the
opportunity
to
do
the
good
work
and
that
I
want
to
do
and
spend
the
money
in
the
way
that
I
would
like
to
spend
it.
If
I
can
make
the
case
and
convince
the
majority
of
my
colleagues
to
go
along
with
that
plan,
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
a
separate
bucket
for
climate
action
and
environmental
justice,
and
I
was
hoping
to
take
some
money
from
the
revenue
loss
bucket
and
put
it
in
that
climate
action
bucket.
But
we
don't
need
a
separate
bucket.
X
We
can
still
do
that
good
work
out
of
the
revenue
loss
bucket,
so
I'm
disappointed,
but
not
enough
to
to
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater
here.
So
I
will.
I
do
intend
to
vote
for
this
budget
and
you
know,
keep
fighting
the
fight
for
climate
action
when
it
comes
up
on
december
6th.
Are
you.
M
A
You
all
right
with
one
minute
and
14
seconds,
left
councilmember
kelly.
U
So
I
can
amend
the
budget
yeah,
I
mean
a
proposal
to
amend.
So
can
I
mean
I'm
just
I
am
concerned,
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
before.
As
everybody
knows,
we
have
a
huge
unfunded
pension
liability
so
to
decrease
that
can
we
amend
the
budget
so
that
it
reflects
the
requested
amount
by
the
pension
board.
So
I
think
right
now
we're
we're
proposing
6.65
and
they've
asked
6.25.
U
This
would
increase.
This
would
decrease
our
our
liability.
I'd
like
to
see
us
amend
our
budget
so
that
so
that
we
increase
our
contribution
to
reflect
what
the
pension
board
is
asking.
AC
Good
evening
again,
as
I
mentioned
yes,
most
communities
stay
consistent
with
what
the
rate
used
by
the
department
of
insurance,
their
actuary
and
almost
70
of
the
communities
in
illinois.
They
use
six
and
a
half
percent.
Obviously,
and
obviously
evanston
has
been
in
the
what
you
call
forefront
that
like
we
have
been
using
six
and
a
half
for
some
years,
when
even
department
of
insurance
was
using
seven
percent
and
some
of
the
teachers
pension
fund
were
using
eight
percent
just
to
kind
of
artificially
lower
the
liability.
AC
S
U
AC
AC
U
U
I
mean
that
was
also
like
1.9
million,
and
I
I
think
what
we
should
be
looking
at
is
is
evanson's
future,
and
it's
not
that
much
more
and
I
so
I
think
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
reduce
that
pension
liability,
and
this
doesn't
have
to
cost
the
taxpayers
anymore.
I
think
we
should
be
funding
it
at
the
the
amount
that
the
pension
board
in
the
long
run,
we're
saving
our
we're
saving
our
residents
money.
A
A
U
A
W
Once
again,
I
I
think
this
is
a
topic
for
the
finance
and
budget
committee
when
the
city
josh,
I
don't
remember
whether
you
were
here
when
we
did
the
last
significant
change
and
when
evanston
decided
to
with
our
pensions
contribute
significantly
more
than
what
the
state
required.
W
We
did
a
very
long,
thoughtful
discussion
about
this
and
decided
that
we
would
undertake
spending
more
to
push
down
our
liability.
It
has
meant
many
times
that
we
have
raised
our
property
taxes
to
pay
for
that,
and
so
this
is
something
that
needs
to
have
significant
discussion
by
the
entire
council
with
the
community
participating
in
this,
because
there
is
no
way
for
us
to
continue
at
that
high
rate
year
after
year,
without
recognizing
that
there
will
be
times
when
we
will
have
to
increase
the
property
tax,
and
that
is
what
has
happened
over
the
years.
W
U
Again,
we
didn't
have
this,
I
I
mean
I'm
just
finding
out
now
that
it
was
6.25
versus
a
6.5.
This
we
all
should
have
had
this
information
ahead
of
time
before
voting.
That's
why
we
should
be
voting
on
this
in
december
and
we're
doing
everything
on
the
fly.
That's
why
we've
been
operating
with
arpa
and
everything
so
yeah.
It's
a
problem.
A
Are
you
still
calculated
alright
in
the
meantime,
while
we're
waiting
on
councilmember
kelly
councilman,
I
read.
K
I
just
said
a
point
of
just
parliamentary
as
we're
kind
of
waiting
here
I
just
want
to.
Are
we
keeping
time
on
all
members.
A
K
D
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
seems
like
a
big
calculation
and
I'd
I'd
like
you
to
take
the
time
to
make
sure
the
numbers
are
right
because
we've
been
accused
of
like
having
this
all
be
on
the
fly.
But
I've
been
asking
very
diligently
for
questions
to
come
in
over
the
last
several
weeks
and
for
us
to
sit
down
with
council
members
to
talk
about
all
this.
So
I'd
like
you
to
take
your
time
and
make
sure
these
numbers
are
right,
because
I
don't
want.
AC
AC
If
we
go
down
to
six
and
a
quarter,
it
would
go
up
to
eleven
million
nine
hundred
seventy
one
thousand
so
roughly
eight
hundred
thousand
more
in
the
police
in
the
fire.
What
we
have
recommended
at
six
and
a
half
is
nine
million
five
hundred
twenty
eight
thousand
five
twenty
four
at
six
and
a
quarter.
It
would
go
up
to
ten
million
fifty
six
thousand,
eight
hundred
seventy
six,
so
roughly
500
000,
more
so
collectively,
1.3
million
more.
A
K
This
is
a
point
I
want
to
make
earlier
to
the
before.
A
few
motions
were
made.
You
know,
councilman
burns
mentioned
that
committee
should
be
doing
the
essentially
the
be
led
by
the
direction
of
council
in
some
regard,
and
I
really
think
as
we're
moving
into
next
year's
budget,
that
committees
should
be
a
part
of
reviewing
relevant
parts
of
the
budget,
so
I
think
you
know
the
environment
board
should
be
looking
at
our
funding.
K
Regarding
environmental
issues,
the
you
know,
whatever
other
traffic
committee,
I
know
that
might
be
gone
now,
but
for
if
there
wasn't
whatever,
if
there
was
a
traffic
committee,
if
there
still
is,
they
should
be
looking
at
issues
relating
the
standing
committees.
You
know
administration
and
public
works
should
be
looking
at
our
funding
for
our
cip
and
there
should
be
a
bit.
The
process
should
be
delegated
a
bit
further
than
just
council
meetings
and
hitesh.
If
you
have
an
answer,
okay,.
U
U
And
it
will
increase
by
more
than
that
without
any
harm
to
the
taxpayers.
So
we
can
it's
going
to
increase
beyond
the
1.94
projected.
U
A
U
AA
A
Reads
seconds
would
the
clerk
please
call
the
role.
K
But
just
to
if
a
quick
comment
on
this,
because
this
is
now
it's
just
coming
up
for
the
there's
a
motion,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
again.
This
is
a
responsible
thing
for
us
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we're.
Yes,
we
are
above
the
state
minimums,
but
state
minimum
should
not
by
any
way
be
our
value
set,
and
we
know
council,
member.
X
L
K
A
With
two
voting
in
favor
and
six
voting
against
the
motion
fails
and
seeing
no
further
discussion
with
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
role
on
sp1,
which,
if
I
have
my
facts
straight,
has
not
been
amended
but
remains
the
budget
as
as
put
in
the
packet
that
was
sent
out
before
the
weekend.
S
K
A
With
five
voting
in
favor
and
three
against
sp1
passes
now
council
member
suffran
tells
me
he
wants
to
make
a
motion.
AD
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
would
like
us
to
take
sp2
through
sp,
eight
in
one
vote
and
one
motion,
so
I
move
items
sp
2,
sp3,
sb4,
sp5,
sp6,
sp7
and
sp8.
I.
A
K
K
I'm
sorry
I
would,
you
know,
happy
to
have
sp3
through
so
eight
move
together.
You
know,
I
have
a
different
opinion
on
the
you
know,
those
tax
levies
versus
the
city
versus
sp2.
AD
I
withdraw
my
previous
motion
and
I
move
item
sp2.
K
A
With
five
voting
in
favor
and
three
voting
against
item
sp2
passes
council
member
suffered
and
is
recognized
for
another
motion.
Yeah.
AD
Hi
I'd
appreciate
you
calling
me
again.
I
would
like
to
move
items
sp3
through
sp8
in
one
motion.
A
V
B
M
K
A
A
A
Seeing
none,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
pass
the
whole
consent
agenda
without
a1,
a4
and
p1
so
move
second
councilmember
braithwaite
moves
passage
of
the
consent
agenda,
except
for
a1,
a4
and
p1
council
member
nusma
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
with
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
roll.
L
A
With
seven
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
consent
agenda,
save
a1a4
and
p1
passes.
This
brings
us
to
item
a1
council
member
burns.
Would
you
care
to
make
a
motion.
L
A
Is
there
a
second
second
council
member
burns
moves
passage
of
item
eight
one
council,
member
braithwaite
seconds?
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
with
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
roll.
AD
A
L
Approval
of
evanston
credit
to
a
career
annual
payment
staff
recommends
city
council
authorizes
the
city
manager
to
execute
the
annual
payment
of
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Partnership
dues
to
support
the
ongoing
efforts
of
cradle
to
career.
M
A
AD
M
Z
A
Council
member
revell
moves
item
p1,
council
member.
When
seconds
is
there
a
discussion
council
member
nusmo?
I.
X
Just
want
to
point
out
that
this
was
amended
in
committee.
If
you
refer
to
your
packet
in
section
3,
condition
b,
which
reads
the
sale
of
tobacco
products
must
be
less
than
the
total
sales
revenue.
That
was
the
old
language.
The
new
language
is
the
sale
of
tobacco
products
must
be
no
greater
than
50
percent
of
the
total
sales
revenue
that
language
was
emailed
to
council
earlier
earlier
this
evening,.
M
X
Are
voting
on
an
amended
version,
correct.
A
The
amendment
passed
in
committee,
so,
what's
before
us
is,
is
what
councilman
described,
not
what's,
to
the
extent
that
it
differs
in
the
packet
council
news,
health
members.
Nusma's
description
is
the
correct
one
council,
member
braithwaite.
V
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
was
made
a
brief
appearance
at
p
and
d
and
I'm
always
supportive
of
of
all
businesses,
particularly
those
that
are
in
the
ward,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
staff
and
connecting
with
mr
dean
and
his
partner
to
introduce
him
to
the
neighborhoods,
as
this
is
being
introduced,
to
make
them
aware
and
ask
any
questions
that
they
may
have.
A
Is
there
any
further
discussion
seeing
none
will
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
role
on
p1,
as
amended
in
committee.
X
V
M
X
K
A
With
six
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
item
p1
passes.
This
concludes
our
consent
agenda
and
brings
us
to
the
hall
of
the
awards,
beginning
with
councilmember
braithwaite.
V
V
We
also
hire
fire
and
manage
our
city
manager,
but
tonight
we
passed
the
budget
and
again
it
takes
time
to
learn
and
for
those
that
stood
firm
and
and
voted
yes
with
the
understanding
that
we
do
have
the
freedom
to
make
the
amendments
as
necessary.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
V
One
of
our
members
of
the
city
council
was
not
here,
council,
member
fleming
who
is
with
her
mother,
so
I
just
her
absence.
She
didn't
ask
me
to
do
this,
but
I
will
share
that
and
also
request
that,
for
those
who
know
her
know
her
family
to
continue
to
look
them
up
in
prayer
as
she
is
with
her
mother
this
evening.
V
A
W
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
will
join
my
colleagues
in
offering
condolences
to
the
of
the
families
to
the
family
of
luke,
stowe
and
just
keeping
council
member
fleming
in
our
thoughts
as
well
as
I'd
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
the
tragedy
that
happened
in
waukesha
wisconsin
and
extend
our
thoughts
and
prayers
for
that
community
as
well.
X
L
L
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
some
comments
directly
to
the
fifth
ward,
that
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
this
council
has
not
created
its
collective
goals
yet,
nor
has
it
went
through
a
priorities
process,
and
so
I
stand
firm
on
my
vote,
mainly
because
decisions
we
make
in
particular
decisions
around
positions
that
we
we
end
up,
feeling
we
can't
get
that
revenue
back
right.
L
These
are
people
that
are
going
to
be
with
us
for
quite
some
time
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
important
work
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
committee.
Our
chair,
one
of
the
working
group
committees
and
one
of
our
likely
one
of
our
recommendations
that
we're
exploring
right
now
is
creating
a
new
department.
Right,
that's
going
to
require
that
we
allocate
we,
we
think
differently
about
how
how
we
allocate
city
funds
and
those
new
expenditures
if
we
approve
them,
could
change
the
workload
in
other
departments.
L
Departments
that
we
just
voted
to
to
to
fill
in
part
for
these
vacancies-
and
so,
although
I
think
sometimes
it
seems
like
these
decisions-
are
easy:
they're,
not
they're,
complex.
That's
that's!
Why
we're
having
these
discussions,
but
I
stand
firm
and
committed
to
our
finance
and
budget
committee
process.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
the
best
the
you
know,
actions
that
we've
taken
as
a
council
and
look
forward
to
again
all
year
round
making
sure
that
we're
taking
a
look
at
our
budget
and
we
ve.
L
L
K
Yes,
I
also
want
to
add
my
voice
to
the
course
folks
extending
condolences
both
to
luke
still
with
the
loss
of
his
father
and
council.
Member
fleming
or
not,
condolences
was
sending
well
wishes
and
prayers
to
council
member
fleming
and
her
mother,
who
is
a
an
absolutely
wonderful
woman,
so
I
want
to
also
echo
you
know.
Tonight's
vote
was
tough.
K
I
voted
no
because
I
made
a
commitment
during
the
campaign
to
evanston
fight
for
black
lives
that
if
there
were
sros
in
the
budget
that
I
would
not
vote
for
it
looking
back
would
I
have
made
that
commitment,
maybe
not,
but
certainly
that
was
a
commitment
that
I
made
and
I
find
that
important
as
well
as
for
reasons
relating
to
the
tax
increase,
I
think
we
have
to
be
responsible
stewards
of
the
dollar
as
we
move
forward,
particularly
without
some
of
the
new
revenue
that
that
has
been
proposed
for
eighth
waters.
K
K
I
just
do
want
to
note.
I
want
the
call
of
the
awards
to
be
a
place
that
8th
ward
residents.
You
know
if
you
don't
watch
the
full
committee
or
full
council
meeting.
Maybe
you
come
here
and
watch
this
two
issues
that
have
been
raised
in
the
ward
recently
that
are
really
big
are
lighting
in
james
park
that
couldn't,
as
we
saw
tonight,
make
it
likely
into
this
year's
budget,
but
certainly
that
is
something
a
priority
of
mine.
K
A
lot
of
folks
feel
unsafe
with
without
ample
lighting
in
james
park,
particularly
folks
who
are
looking
to
for
recreation
and
exercise,
and
so
that
is
something
we'll
be
working
on
as
well
as
turning
lane
on
howard
leading
to
dodge.
In
california.
I've
been
noted,
I've
been
told
by
director.
K
Stone
back
that
the
lights
likely
are
were
delayed
and
the
new
signage
will
be
installed
within
the
year.
Also.
I
just
want
to
give
commitments
to
manager
interim
manager
gandursky
one,
for
I'm
sure
this
was
a
tough.
This
is
your
first
second
budget
year.
First
leading
it
so
give
you
commitment
for
leading
that
process.
K
I
also
want
to
commend
you
for
ushering
in
what
seemed
at
least
from
public
from
the
outside
seemed
like
a
a
very
smooth
transition
to
the
new
vaccine
mandate,
we've
seen
in
a
lot
of
other
cities
that
there's
been
some
controversy
and
I
think,
and
certainly
in
part
to
your
leadership
and
our
staff
and
our
and
our
staff
and
other
senior
management
there
hasn't.
We
haven't
had
those
issues
here
and
I'm
happy
that
myself
and
sure
all
of
the
council
members
support
that
policy
and
are
living
in
the
spirit
ourselves
of
that
policy.
U
U
U
I
think
right
for
that
one
peter
so
crossing
over
a
little
bit,
but
we'll
be
holding
refreshments
and
conversations
there,
and
you
can
also
shop
beautiful
items
there
by
evanston
artists
so
hope
for
first
word:
residents
will
join
that's
december,
10th
friday
at
4,
30
again
at
the
old
urban
outfitters
second
floor.
Also,
I'd
like
to
thank
again
all
the
residents
who
come
out
and
speak
and
take
time
out
of
their
day
to
speak,
and
we
we
are
hearing
you,
but
I
agree.
U
We
really
need
to
do
more
with
that,
and
I
think
we
should
figure
out
a
way
that
we
are
actually
responding
to
questions
these
questions
about
city
manager.
It's
not
enough
just
to
be
heard.
I
mean
we
have
to
you
know:
residents
should
feel
like
they're
getting
some
traction
when
they
come
out
and
speak
and
take
time
out
of
the
day.
U
X
Okay,
do
you
want
to
okay?
I
will
move
to
convene
into
executive
session
pursuant
to
five
ilcs
120-2a
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
litigation
and
the
establishment
of
reserves
or
settlement
of
claims.