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B
C
Here
we
have
a
quorum
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
mayor's
public
announcements
and
proclamations
of
which
there
are
none.
The
next
item
is
the
city
manager's
public
announcements.
C
Thank
you.
This
brings
us
to
public
comment.
Every
speaker
will
have
three
minutes
this
evening.
As
usual,
we
begin
with
those
who
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
person,
starting
with
ray
friedman.
E
Good
evening,
everyone,
mayor
city,
council,
interim
city
manager,
I
wrote
a
two-page
public
comment
that
I'm
not
going
to
read.
E
I
understand
that
councilman
fleming
came
up
with
the
idea
for
the
budget
and
finance
proposed
back
in
june,
and
then
we
just
had
our
first
budget
and
finance
meeting
last
week,
which
I
mean
it's
great
they're
great
people,
three
experts
that
we
could
take
advantage
of
to
work
on
the
budget.
The
budget
looks
like
a
runaway
freight
train
and
it's
a
it's
looks
like
it's
an
accident
waiting
to
happen.
E
E
You
know
it
doesn't
make
sense.
The
three
the
budget
committee
that
was
raised
in
question
was
raised
in
june.
It's
an
excellent
idea
and
we
asked
to
have
weekly
meetings
before
the
budget
is
passed
and
the
chair
said
no,
no
more,
no
meeting.
We
can't
we
don't
have
time
for
any
more
meetings
for
any
further
discussion
on
the
budget.
That's.
F
E
Not
right,
you
know
I
to
me,
you
need
you,
need
the
resident's
input
on
all
of
these
issues
and
you're,
not
allowing
it.
You
didn't
allow
us
to
finish
the
tiff
hearing
which
I'm
still
upset
about.
You
know
it's
it's
a
hearing.
It's
not
a
public
comment,
so
the
only
two
people
that
talked
about
last
week
that
talked
about
the
budget
was
jonathan,
newsma
and
claire
kelly
after
we
had
our
our
hearing
our
budget
hearing,
so
you.
G
E
That's
it
that's
it
and
we
had
one
meeting
at
one
meeting
for
the
for
the
new
committee.
No,
no.
We
need
to
have
a
whole
lot
more
discussion
before
we
go
ahead
and
re
raise
the
budget
by
55
million
dollars
and
and
hire
a
hundred
new
people
new
residents
without
any
discussion
from
residents.
No,
no!
No!
That's
just
not
right!
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
That
concludes
the
people
who
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
person.
So
now
we
move
to
those
who
signed
up
online
to
speak
in
person,
beginning
with
dr
christine
somerville.
C
H
H
H
Over
900
children
have
been
identified
as
having
social,
emotional
difficulties
of
these
seven
hundred,
our
children
are
children
of
color.
Many
more
remain
undiagnosed
anywhere
from
two
thousand
nine
hundred
to
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
evanston
residents
with
a
mental
health
disorder
are
not
seeking
help.
These
figures
represent
the
mental
health
crisis
prior
to
the
pandemic.
When
one
in
five
adults
experience
a
mental
health
condition
now
over
25
percent
of
the
population
does,
and
is,
it
is
expected
that
this
curve
will
not
be
flattening
for
a
long
time
to
come.
H
Mental
health
services
are
extremely
in
extremely
high
demand
right
now.
Therapy
services
for
non-ppo
people
are
almost
non-existent
in
evanston
providers
that
take
medicaid
are
few
and
far
between
and
evanston,
there
are
almost
thirty
thousand
evanston
households
with
incomes
under
fifty
thousand.
For
these
families,
the
cost
of
mental
health
care
puts
it
out
of
reach.
H
H
The
details
of
that
have
been
distributed
to
you
and
we
ask
that
they
go
into
the
public
record.
We
need
your
help
to
fortify
and
expand
mental
health
services.
We
need
funding
proportionate
to
the
crisis
at
hand.
We
hope
you
will
allocate
more
than
4
million
to
this
public
health
crisis.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
Despite
increasing
client
needs,
we
believe
offering
those
who
may
be
experiencing
a
mental
health
crisis.
A
place
to
go
would
not
only
be
a
benefit
to
the
client
seeking
services,
but
it
would
free
up
members
of
our
over
extended
police
force
from
having
from
them
having
to
act
as
mental
health.
Clinicians.
I
J
Good
evening
how's
it
going,
my
name
is
allison
stoll,
I'm
a
child
and
family
therapist,
with
the
children's
advocacy
center
of
north
and
northwest
cook
county.
The
cac
provides
services
to
children
and
families
that
have
experienced
abuse
neglect
trauma
of
some
sort.
Evanston
is
included
in
our
catchment
area,
I'm
here
tonight
as
a
member
of
the
mental
health
task
force
as
an
advocate
for
the
families
that
I
serve
as
well
as
to
represent
the
mental
health
needs
of
our
community.
J
As
I'm
also
a
resident
of
evanston,
I
can
attest
to
the
need
to
support
and
fund
mental
health
resources
beyond
the
3.7
million
previously
recommended.
As
my
experience
in
treating
children
and
family
has
shown
me
the
trend
and
complexity
of
intergenerational
trauma.
I
wish
that
I
could
say
this
is
a
newer
development,
but
unfortunately
it's
not
in
1997.
J
J
The
relevant
findings
of
this
study
were
that
adversity
experienced
early
in
life
has
a
tremendous
impact
on
later
functioning
of
an
individual,
and
it's
a
dose-dependent
relationship.
Aces
are
linked
to
chronic
health
problems.
Mental
illness
and
substance
use
problems
in
adulthood.
The
cost
on
communities
of
ignoring
the
adversity
faced
early
in
life
only
grows
exponentially.
J
In
my
line
of
work,
I
see
the
cost
of
ignoring
mental
health
issues
from
one
generation
to
the
next,
and
I'm
also
often
faced
with
helping
not
only
children
heal,
but
parents
heal
and
entire
family
systems
heal,
because
the
trauma
of
previous
generations
that
has
been
left,
open
and
festering
here
are
some
of
the
figures
we're
looking
at
61
percent
of
adults
in
the
united
states
report
experiencing
at
least
one
adverse
childhood
experience,
nearly
one
in
four
to
six
adults
report
experiencing
four
or
more.
This
study
confirms
what
I
witness
on
a
daily
basis.
J
C
J
Recommendations
on
combating
aces
is
one
strengthen
the
economic
support
for
families
and
to
propose
promote
social
norms
that
protect
protect
against
violence
and
adversity.
If
we
continue
to
ignore
minimize
and
devalue
the
impact
of
mental
health
needs
of
everyone,
we
are
choosing
to
fail
our
community.
I
ask
you
to
please
consider
raising
the
amount
of
funds
that
you
are
going
to
allocate
for
mental
health
needs.
Thank
you.
K
Good
evening,
everybody,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
trend
going
on.
My
name
is
cindy
castro,
I'm
the
manager
of
the
outpatient,
behavior
health
clinic
and
also
a
member
of
the
mental
health
task
force.
So
here
today
we're
really
to
provide
information
and
have
you
reconsidered
the
current
allocation
that
you're
giving
for
social
services
with
the
arpa
funds?
Let
us
first
be
clear
that
mental
health
services
fall
under
the
social
services
category
with
those
funds
that
category
recovers,
so
many
needs
not
just
mental
health.
K
So
already
the
current
allocation
will
have
to
be
spread
thin
within.
So
many
of
the
community
needs,
as
mentioned
before
in
our
repeat
again,
mental
health
came
up
in
most
of
the
town
halls
and
round
tables,
if
not
all,
but
let's
also
not
forget
that
it
always
comes
up
during
the
community,
needs
assessment
done
by
the
city's
health
department
and
also
by
both
hospitals.
K
In
a
time
when
mental
health
services
are
most
needed,
many
of
us
are
having
difficulty
with
our
resources.
Many
agencies
have
a
growing
wait
list.
For
example,
trilogy
that
focuses
on
medicaid
population
has
over
300
people
for
adult
therapy
and
300
for
people
for
child
and
adolescent
programs,
and
this
is
after
they
have
doubled
their
number
of
therapists
over
the
last
year.
The
same
is
true
for
thresholds,
and
these
are
both.
Agencies
provide
very
intensive
services.
K
So
what
I
tell
the
resident
that
is
calling
us
asking
that
they
need
to
be
seen
asap
because
they
do
not
know
what
else
to
do.
Would
I
tell
the
spanish-speaking
mom
of
a
teen
that's
refusing
to
go
to
school
because
of
their
social
anxiety
and
fear
of
covid
that
has
only
increased
during
the
full
year
of
remote
learning
and
that
the
services
that
she
currently
needs
are
only
outside
of
evanston.
K
The
need
to
eliminate
barriers
for
our
community
is
tremendous.
Our
agencies
need
more
unrestricted
funds
to
not
need
to
label
someone
with
a
diagnosis
or
go
through
our
extensive
assessments
through
the
insurances,
with
the
much-needed
triage
services
that
we
provide
through
our
contract
with
the
city.
Once
again,
I
ask
what
do
I
tell
the
residents
that
are
calling
me
to
ask
where
they
can
go
to
get
help,
even
if
what
we're
able
to
do
is
only
very
limited,
we
are
urging
you
to
reconsider
the
current
allocation.
K
We
all
need
more
and
we
cannot
continue
to
minimize
the
urgency
of
these
services
and
by
only
allocating
such
a
small
percentage,
then
we
are
telling
our
community
that
these
services
are
not
as
important
and
that
they
just
need
to
wait
for
the
care
that
they
so
desperately
need
in
partnership.
Thank
you.
L
Good
evening,
honorable
everybody
I'm
allie
harned
from
the
third,
the
second
ward.
I
almost
just
moved
to
the
third
board
and
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
mental
health
task
force.
I'm
a
district
wide
school
social
worker
in
district
65
working
in
a
new
role
this
year,
alongside
one
other
social
work
colleague,
to
try
to
address
the
many
complex
and
interrelated
needs
that
have
arisen
for
our
students
and
their
families
as
a
result
of
the
kovid
19
pandemic.
L
I've
spoken
to
this
council
a
number
of
times
about
a
number
of
issues
and
though
we
don't
always
agree
on
how
things
should
proceed
around
certain
items.
What
I
do
know
to
be
true
is
that
we
all
have
reasons
why
we
have
chosen
to
spend
our
time
here.
My
interest,
and
indeed
my
passion
for
city
issues,
is
a
direct
result
of
my
17
plus
years
working
with
children
and
families
and
having
seen
the
absolutely
direct
impact
of
the
decisions
that
you
all
make
up
there
on
the
day-to-day
lives
of
our
families.
L
Your
decisions
actually
can
make
a
difference
between
housed
and
unhoused,
fed
or
unfed,
well
or
unwell,
and
indeed,
unfortunately,
between
life
and
death
in
district
65,
my
mental
health
and
educator
colleagues
support
students
who
are
dealing
with
a
wide
variety
of
issues.
We
have
hundreds
of
students
who
are
registered
as
homeless.
We
have
children
grieving
the
loss
of
loved
ones
due
to
kovid
and
whose
lives
have
been
altered
drastically.
Due
to
the
economic
hardships
brought
on
by
the
pandemic.
L
Something
that
has
been
a
challenge
for
years
is
a
lack
of
partial
hospitalization
or
hospitalization
options
for
children
in
evanston.
If
a
child
needs
inpatient
or
outpatient
intensive
mental
health
treatment,
they
have
to
go
at
least
45
minutes
away
every
day
in
the
case
of
outpatient
care,
which
usually
requires
transportation
and
work
flexibility
for
the
parents.
This
is
literally
just
impossible
for
some
families
to
do
so.
The
child
remains
remains
under
treated
and
the
family
remains
under
deep
stress.
L
My
esteemed
task
force,
colleagues
who
have
spoken
before
me
have
all
spoken
about
the
even
more
exacerbated
need
than
before
for
help
mental
health
and
social
service
support
in
evanston,
something
else.
I've
said
for
years,
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
say
it
until
we
figure
out
a
solution
is
that
we
in
the
school
system
do
our
best
to
meet
the
needs
of
students,
and
we
are
well
versed
in
making
academic
and
behavioral
plans
to
support
the
students.
L
If
we
could
do
a
better
job
of
supporting
children
and
families.
Now
this
can
have
a
positive
effect
for
generations
of
evanstonians
to
come
when
you
are
choosing
how
to
spend
these
precious
arpa
dollars.
Remember
that
you
are
not
only
providing
sustenance,
sometimes
known
as
fish,
and
you
are
not
just
teaching
how
to
fish,
but
the
fisher
person
also
needs
fishing
poles
readily
available,
a
kitchen
in
which
to
fry
up
the
fish
and
a
healthy
state
of
mind
to
enjoy
their
delicious
meal.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
C
M
Yes,
I
am
good,
let
me
in
members
of
the
city
council
and
the
mayor,
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
make
a
comment
to
sp2,
I'm
very
concerned
with
the
money
that's
coming
in
from
the
money
from
the
city,
the
millions
of
dollars
and
the
allocation
I
saw
with
trees.
I
saw
were
sidewalks
and
I
saw
the
buildings.
Not
one.
M
Penny
has
been
allocated
for
minority
senior
land
owned
landlords
like
me,
who
have
taken
a
big
hit
in
the
city
with
taxes
and
tenants
not
paying
rent
with
all
the
facilities
that
you
have.
M
C
F
I'd
like
to
say
it's
strange
also
to
know
that
when
the
city
was
when
it
was
first
proposed
thought
about
before
it
was
even
brought
to
the
people
that
the
city
library,
the
public
library,
would
be
used
for
police
fire
and
city
council
offices.
Yet
it
was
not
large
enough
to
have
space
for
the
genealogy
collection.
That
seems
strange
to
me
and
it's
not
enough-
there's
not
even
enough
time
for
students
to
study
to
become
what
they
might
be
able
to
become
to
have
a
livable
wage
to
stay
in
evanston.
F
C
O
These
areas
are
usually
first
in
line
for
the
types
of
investments,
small
business
and
big
developers
get
most
years,
facade
improvement,
tiffs
low
interest
loans
and
grants
for
building
improvements
and
to
bring
new
businesses
to
evanston.
Here
we
have
the
opportunity
to
help
create
new
business
in
evanston
owned
by
evans
estonians.
O
O
This
innovation
is
proven
in
other
locations,
but
it
is
not
typical
of
any
kind
of
development.
That's
been
done
here
in
evanston,
so
even
long-time
members
of
the
council
and
people
long
involved
in
economic
development
are
very
likely
unfamiliar
with
model.
I
hope
that
you
will
support
the
one
million
dollar
request
to
fund
the
ox.
Thank
you.
P
P
Two
million
it'll
be
more
like
a
million
four.
I
believe
it
is,
and
then
the
maintenance
fund
the
right
actually
giving
us
some
of
the
money.
That's
in
the
checking.
We
don't
have
to
bond
that
out.
I
think
we
really
need
to
reevaluate
our
relationship
with
the
friends
crown
because
I
think
they're
sitting
on
a
couple
million
dollars
right
now.
That
is
supposed
to
be
for
their.
P
For
their
crown
center
anyway,
so
let's
have
a
very,
very
good
relationship,
but
most
of
all
the
northwestern
money
is
not
a
donation.
As
we
all
know,
it
is
a
fee
for
use
of
the
business
in
the
column
of
revenue,
not
donation.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
bye.
C
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
kim
kia
harris
and
I'm
an
attorney
with
the
illinois,
fraternal
order
of
police
labor
council.
As
you
may
know,
we
represent
the
police
officers,
the
sergeants
and
other
non-sworn
police
personnel
who
work
for
the
city.
We
also
represent
those
same
type
of
officers
for
more
than
500
municipalities
across
the
state
of
illinois.
Q
An
effective
police
department
is
one
that
responds
quickly
to
calls,
has
well-trained
and
motivated
officers
and
interacts
with
the
community
through
citizen
programs.
This
keeps
the
crime
rate
down.
It
makes
residents
feel
good
about
living
in
evanston.
A
good,
effective
police
department
helps
to
maintain
the
quality
of
life
that
the
citizens
of
everson
have
come
to
expect.
Q
But
this
major
factor
in
evanston's
quality
of
life
is
facing
some
serious
issues.
At
the
start
of
the
calendar
year
of
2019,
the
everson
police
department
averaged
159
employees
in
2020.
It
was
150..
Today
you
have
135
employees.
We
are
short,
19
employees.
These
employee
losses
do
not
follow
the
national
trend;
they
are
not
due
to
retirement.
Q
These
employees
are
highly
sought
after
by
other
municipalities
in
the
in
this
current
environment
officers,
continue
to
apply
to
other
municipalities,
and
we
notice,
because
the
city
continues
to
receive
background,
check,
requests
from
other
communities
as
a
rep.
As
a
result
of
these
employee
losses,
there
has
been
daily
shortages
of
personnel,
resulting
in
both
overtime
and
a
reduction
of
services,
in
both
the
patrol
division
and
in
the
investigative
service
division.
Q
These
losses
have
consequences.
There
is
an
estimated
nine
percent
increase
of
all
crime
in
everson
this
year,
including
five
homicides
in
2021.
There
has
been
a
46
increase
in
response
times
to
a
non-emergency
calls.
This
is
from
the
time
a
call
was
received
by
epd
until
the
time
because
assigned
to
an
available
officer.
During
this
time,
the
dispatch
services
is
actively
seeking
to
assign
these
calls,
but
due
to
the
shortage
and
staff,
it
takes
this
time
for
an
officer
to
become
open
to
respond
to
a
new
call.
But
there
is
a
solution.
Q
N
Q
C
S
Good
evening,
and
thank
you
just
quickly,
I
want
to
support
the
additional
funds
that
director
oboe
is
asking
for
he's
really
the
man
behind
the
scenes
that
took
care
of
so
many
different
things
during
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
he
got
a
little
credit
for
it
he's
not
a
politician,
but
I
think
his
requests
are
reasonable.
S
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
sp2
point
d,
the
aux
be
put
on
hold
for
more
discussion.
That's
a
lot
of
money
to
give
a
newly
formed
not-for-profit
timing.
You
know
that
formation
is
a
little
concerning
to
me
and
my
understanding
from
what
I've
heard
is
that
it's
really
a
group
of
only
two
or
three
or
possibly
four
people.
S
So
I'd
like
to
get
that
get
more
information
about
that.
I
also
do
not
support
spending
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
managing
grants.
This
is
something
our
staff
is
supposed
to
be
doing
under
the
current
funding.
I
do
agree
with
spending
more
in
the
city
clerk's
office.
S
Any
of
the
savings
for
items
that
that
can
be
eliminated
could
go
to
the
mental
health
group
as
well,
as
I
agree
with
carlos
sutton
landlords,
are
taking
a
hit
they're,
not
getting
help
from
either
side,
and
I
want
to
echo
what
ray
friedman
said
a
little
while
ago
that
finance
and
budget
meeting
that
was
suggested
to
be
something
that
would
engage
citizens
during
this
budget
process
was
a
complete
sham
and
it's
unfortunate
the
way
the
chairs
steered
that
meeting
right
off
the
road
and
into
a
trench,
because
we
won't
be
able
to
use
it
for
this
year
and
the
way
it's
being
shared.
S
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
know
what
this
council
and
evanston's
cfo
believes
or
if
they
could
answer
the
question
about,
because
I'm
hearing
from
now
two
two
aldermen
burns
and
reed
from
what
they've
said
and
what
they've
said
to
what
aldon
burns
has
said
to
me
about
not
needing
to
to
raise
taxes
for
all
of
the
spending
that
they've
approved
and
others
have
approved
over
the
last
couple
of
meetings.
C
S
C
T
T
T
First
of
all,
she
stalled
getting
the
committee
going.
That
is
appalling.
Second
of
all,
she
doesn't
want
to
connect
in
with
this
current
budget,
and
there
clearly
is
a
very
good
group
of
people
ready
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
who
can
start
weighing
in
on
at
least
a
few
things
concerning
this
budget.
T
T
First
of
all,
public
schools-
are
open
to
everyone.
Private
schools
are
not
so
that
would
be
something
that
maybe
you
want
to
consider
thinking
about
in
terms
of
who's,
paying
for
what
perhaps
maybe
some
of
the
money
and
the
four
active
tiffs
could
assist
you
in
in
helping
pay
for
crossing
guards
and
also
on
free
beaches.
T
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we,
as
a
city
start
implementing
and
getting
creative
with
how
to
get
that
money
flowing
now.
I,
for
one
would
be
totally
open
to
buying
a
pass
right
now
for
next
year
if
we
could
start
generating
a
fund
the
sooner
the
better.
I
think
you'd
find
a
lot
of
residents
willing
to
do
that
to
make
our
public
public
beaches
free
for
the
public,
as
they
should
be
all
right,
and
the
last
thing
is
well
two
things:
what
cities
have
hired
managers
of
their
arpa
funds?
T
I
could
not
find
cities.
I
found
counties
that
have
a
hired
hand,
but
I
don't
know
cities
again.
This
is
where
benchmarking
would
be
great.
Give
us
some
examples
of
who's,
doing
that
and,
in
addition,
hiring
people.
You
know
what
we
need
to
see
like
who
we
really
need
now
and
if
we're
hiring
managers
or
administrators.
T
Let's
do
that.
First
before
we
decide
to
hire
people
that
will
sit
under
those
people,
they
should
be
involved
in
that
process.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
Thank
you,
mayor
bess,
acting
city
manager,
gandurski
and
council
members.
This
is
leslie
vanquillen.
I
live
in
the
seventh
ward,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
budget
and
finance
committee,
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
I
was
heartened
and
happy
to
hear
that
that
chairman
nguyen,
as
well
as
the
other
city
members
city
council,
members
in
attendance,
are
in
agreement
that,
before
moving
on
with
this
budget,
that
we
really
need
to
see
what
the
next
three
or
preferably
four
years,
look
like
on
projections.
U
It's
one
thing
to
say
this
year,
we're
not
going
to
be
meaning
to
raise
taxes
or
the
levy.
However,
it's
quite
a
different
thing
when
you
layer
in
you
know
50
to
100
more
people
over
the
next
several
years,
and
we
need
to
know
what
that
looks
like
I,
you
know,
there's
there's
some
projections
that
need
to
be
included.
U
As
futesh
knows,
you
know
in
the
future,
we
are
not
going
to
see
the
gains
we've
seen
in
the
stock
market,
we're
going
to
have
more
pension
liability
than
in
addition
rates
are
going
to
go
up.
I
think
that
that
everybody
knows
that
so
for
us
to
just
reflexively,
go
back
to
oh
we'll
just
issue.
Some
more
bonds
is
going
to
really
start
to
hurt
us.
U
It's
going
to
become
a
vicious
cycle
where
we're
issuing
bonds
at
much
higher
rates,
issuing
more
debt
and
at
some
point
our
bond
rating
will
suffer
it's
just
inevitable.
So
I
really
would
encourage
you.
U
I
I
realize
that
it
sounds
as
though
the
those
of
us
on
the
committee
are
unlikely
to
receive
the
projections,
but
I
understand
that
there
was
a
commitment
to
the
city
manager,
the
cfo
and
his
staff
to
getting
the
projections
to
you,
aldermen,
and
I
certainly
would
not
make
any
decisions
on
the
budget
until
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those,
because
it's
just
apocryphal
that
you
think
that
there
won't
be
any
tax
increases
or
or
additional
debt
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
C
All
right
well
we'll
skip
for
a
moment
to
dorian
price,
miss
price.
W
Yes,
good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
mayor
this
and
the
rest
of
the
council,
those
discussions
tonight
have
been
extremely
thoughtful
and
by
serious
and
and
awesome
residents
of
evanston
who
are
in
capacities
of
helping
our
communities
is,
is
always
good
and
in
terms
of
charities
being
overwhelmed.
It
has
a
trickle-down
effect.
Obviously,
in
terms
of
the
people
who
need
help
and
who
are
vulnerable
in
terms
of
our
commitment
to
human
services
and
the
upper
funds.
W
I
think
that
we're
under
committing
a
great
deal,
including
the
general
box
of
health
and
human
services,
you've
heard
cicely
fleming's
report
with
regard
to
her
groups,
exploring
options
to
help
people
in
crisis
having
a
centralized
center
has
been
discussed,
also
in
other
zoo
meetings.
I've
attended
and
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
stabilize
people
with
the
same
caretaker
or
the
same
person
they
can
identify
with
in
terms
of
ptsd.
W
As
you
know,
I
have
as
well
it's
the
triggers
are
very
hard
and
in
terms
of
people
having
to
ask
for
help
over
and
over
again,
it's
extremely
difficult
for
most
people,
court
proceedings
or
anything
else
that
you
give
residents
for
whatever
reason
when
you
could
be
helping
them
has
to
be
seriously
considered
to
reverse
the
the
culture
or
the
climate
that
seems
to
be.
W
I
know
they
are,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
believe
that,
but
it
needs
to
be
embraced
across
the
board
and
we
need
to
be
unified
in
that
primary
principle
of
human
of
our
humanity,
and
that
has
to
guide
even
legal
decisions,
because
legal
decisions,
just
based
on
the
wording
of
the
law,
is
what
has
gotten
us
into
this
mess
of
an
economy.
And
we
need
to
be
more
generous,
as
your
volunteers
definitely
display,
and
the
people
who
are
committed
and
the
leaders
of
your
committees
are
extremely
undedicated
to
that.
W
And
other
leaders,
hopefully,
will
follow
suit.
Because
we
really
need
people
who
see
that
public
input
can
make
a
difference,
and
public
involvement
actually
helps
reverse
the
feeling
of
helplessness
that
the
traumatized
do
feel
and
then
I
did
write
something.
But
this
is
related
to
what
I
wrote.
So
thank
you.
C
X
Yeah,
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
we
sure,
can
okay
great
good
evening,
mayor
city
manager,
city
clerk
and
city
council.
My
name
is
tina
payton
and,
as
you
heard
me
many
times
for
over
50
years,
payton
properties
has
provided
affordable
units
10
to
15
units
a
year,
one
two
three
and
four
bear
rooms
at
30
percent
ami.
X
Over
the
time
of
the
last
two
years
during
the
pandemic,
we
have
received
no
help.
We
have
tenants
that
are
in
there
that
are
tearing
up
our
apartments
and
they
will
not
pay
the
rent.
We
have
been
hit
very
hard
just
like
other
businesses
and
no
help,
and
it
is
very
important
that
you
help
the
small
landlords
like
us
right
now,
because
we
will
sell
to
large
landlords
and
they
will
turn
the
buildings
into
luxury
housing.
X
You
claim
to
be
concerned
about
affordable
units,
but
every
time
that
we
come
and
ask
for
your
help,
you
turn
away
and
act
like
we
don't
exist
now
with
the
arpa
funds
which
we've
been
asking
for
help
as
well,
you
are
giving
people
the
same
people
money
that
you've
given
grant
money
to
in
the
past
and
you're
acting
like
the
developer,
is
strippers
and
you're,
making
it
rain
and
throwing
out
money,
and
you
do
not
care
about
us
please.
Once
again,
you
need
to
consider
about
small
landlords
that
need
help.
X
If
you
excuse
me,
if
you
care
about
affordable
housing,
like
you
say,
then
you
will
help
us.
You
spent
almost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
a
skate
park.
You're
spending
all
of
this
money
of
30
million
dollars
of
our
funds.
Next
year,
you
spend
all
these
funds,
twenty
thousand
dollars
on
study,
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
you
give
some
landlords
or
some
developers
have
received
over
200
000
for
one
small
two-bedroom
unit.
X
C
Thank
you.
That
concludes
public
comment
for
this
evening,
which
brings
us
to
item
sp1
on
the
agenda.
The
way
I'd
like
to
handle
this
since
sp1
is
it's
four
different
items
but
they're
each
items
for
discussion.
I
don't
think
we
need
four
different
motions.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
allow
us
to
enter
into
discussion
on
the
budget,
but
then
we'll
we'll
follow
the
the
plan.
C
So
we'll
begin
by
discussing
essentially
items
b,
c
and
d:
are
you
know,
specific
things,
crossing
guards
and
then
the
question
of
free
beaches
and
the
question
of
proposed
expanded
staff
positions?
So
first
we'll
talk
about
everything
else
and
then
we'll
move
through
those
more
specific
items.
So
is
there
a
motion.
C
I
I
couldn't
tell
who
the
first
person
was.
Was
it
so
council
member
bracelet
moves
that
we
discuss
the
budget
council
member
newsma
seconds
and
so
again,
let
me
begin
by
asking,
if
there's
any
discussion
or
questions
that
members
of
the
council
have
regarding
any
aspects
of
the
proposed
fy
2022
budget,
with
the
exception
of
crossing
guards
beaches
and
proposed
new
staff
positions,
we
begin
with
council
member
kelly.
Z
Thank
you,
so
I
want
to
just
dovetail
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
questions
about
the
robert
crown
center
and
it
looks
like
we
are
at
allocating.
Z
Z
Z
I
mean
right
now
and
I
think
it
should
be
pointed
out.
It
is
really
important
that
when
this
project
was
projected,
we
were
talking
about,
staff
was
telling
us
we
were
going
to
maybe
have
about
a
500
000
deficit
and
now
we're
looking
at
2
million
when
you
take
all
the
costs
and
debt
service
fees
and
if
we
were
to
add
in
also,
if
we're
going
to
add
in
these
news
positions.
So
how
about
we
use
the
money
in
the
debt
in
the
robert
crown
maintenance
fund?
Z
So
that's
my
first
question
I
mean,
I
think
we
really.
Our
residents
have
just
shouldered
such
an
enormous
expense
already
on
the
center.
So
if
we
can
avoid
layering
more
expense
for
this
monster,
as
director
hemingway
called
it,
we
should
avoid
it.
D
I'm
happy
to
start
answering
that
and
if
we
need
more
elaboration
director
hemingway's
here
as
as
well
as
manager
cholek,
the
short
answer
is
the
council
can
choose
to
do
what
it
wants
with
the
maintenance
fund,
it
can
move
the
funds
over.
The
maintenance
fund
was
originally
created
to
budget
for
preventative
maintenance
on
robert
crown.
So
for
the
you
know,
regular
mechanicals.
D
D
It
really
is
something
that
needs
additional
staffing,
so
the
the
maintenance
fund
was
put
aside
for
maintenance,
but
but
there
wasn't
a
similar
fund
put
together
for
staffing
purposes,
and
so
in
looking
at
that
now
I
think
you
know
a
decision
would
have
to
be
made
in
terms
of
you
know.
Does
council
want
to
take
away
that
maintenance
fund
to
use
for
staffing,
but
then
there
would
still
be
the
issue
of
ongoing
maintenance.
D
It
was
too
late
in
the
season
to
plan
for
additional
staffing
to
run
the
programmings
for
that
capacity,
so
we
still
operated
with
less
capacity
for
programs,
so
we
didn't
receive
the
full
benefit
of
revenue
that
we
would
have
ordinarily
received
in
a
quote
normal
non-coveted
year.
I
think
the
end
of
this
year
now
that
we're
up
and
running
to
full
capacity
is
that
correct
director
hemingway
we're
up
to
full
capacity.
Now,
I
think
the
end
of
2021.
We
will
see
more
realistic
projections
from
the
revenue
side
of
the
programming.
Z
I
also
think
we
should
be
disclosing
like
for
our
naming
naming
rights
fees
like
what
did
we
get
for
that?
At
any
rate,
we
should
be
looking
at
all
these
different
sources
before
we
leverage
yet
more
costs
into
our
residence,
and,
if
we're
talking
about
378
000
for
these
additional
employees,
we
might
also
want
to
look
at
that.
I
mean.
Maybe
we
simply
can't
afford
four
more
employees
at
robert
crown,
but
if
we
are
going
to
do
that,
we
should
look
at
the
maintenance
fund.
We
should
look
at
the
naming
rights.
Z
How
much
money
did
we
get
for
the
wilson
fayak
or
whatever?
It's
called
the
fayak
wilson
rink?
How
much
do
we
get?
Maybe
that
should
be
going
towards
that.
You
know
and
and
all
that
should
be
assessed
before
we,
but
again,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
leaving
money
just
sitting
in
a
fund
rather
than
allocating
it
towards
if
this
is
really
a
desperately
needed
expense
for
these
four
new
employees
or
three
and
a
half.
C
Is
there
so
the
next
speaker
is
councilmember
revell.
AA
Just
drawing
from
my
my
memory
about
what
the
conversation
was
around,
the
creation
of
the
maintenance
fund
was
that
it
was
very
important
to
in
talking
with
potential
donors
significant.
Don't
you
know
major
donors
to
the
robert
crown
that
that
the
city
commit
that
we
would
have
a
maintenance
fund
so
that
our
once
the
facility
was
built
it
would
not
fall
into
disrepair.
AA
We
wanted
to
avoid
what
had
happened
with
the
previous
robert
crown
building,
so
it
was
just
a
very
important
selling
point
to
a
number
of
donors
that
we
were
going
to
be
setting
aside
this
special
fund
to
do
things
to,
for
these
preventative
maintenance,
major
expenses
rather
than
the
date,
the
day-to-day
operations.
AB
Well,
I
I
want
to
second
what
all
council
member
revell
is
saying.
I
mean
one
of
the
critical
things
that
we
have
realized
over
time
in
the
city
is
that
every
single
building
needs
constant
maintenance
from
the
moment
it's
built,
and
that
too
often
in
the
city,
we
have
postponed
that
maintenance
only
to
find
ourselves
spending
much
more
money
down
the
line
to
to
repair
something
that
would
have
been
a
minor
cost
at
the
at
the
beginning,
and
so
having
a
maintenance
fund
is,
is
as
essential
as
putting
the
roof
on
the
building.
AB
I
mean
it.
It's
it's
going
hand
in
hand,
so
to
already
to
start
by
eliminating
the
maintenance
fund
in
the
very
first
year
to
me
is
is
not
a
good
idea,
and
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
that
there
are
many
places
in
the
city
of
evanston
that
are
named.
This
building
is
named
for
the
wonderful
lorraine
morton.
This
chamber
is
named
for
a
former
mayor
and
they
gave
their
city
service
to
the
community.
There
was
that's
what
the
reason
why
a
room
is
named
for
former
councilmember.
Z
AB
Our
taxpayers,
I
think
that's
a
that's.
That's
that's
a
misconstrued.
My
understanding
is
just
like.
We
have
named
gibbs
morrison
for
evanstonians
and
a
number
of
other
buildings
or
rooms
in
in
our
city
buildings.
None
of
those
people
gave
money
now.
C
So
let
me
let
me
just
quickly
jump
in
here,
because
I've
been
trying
to
I
like
councilman
kelly,
I'm
a
newcomer
and
and
so
wasn't
around
before
I'm
trying
to
educate
myself
about
this
it.
It
certainly
is
the
case
that
naming
rights
to
a
number
of
different
aspects
of
crown
have
been
sold.
In
fact,
the
council
voted
to
approve
a
number
of
those
naming
rights
agreements.
C
C
In
practice,
it
was
utilized
as
a
fundraising
tool
to
to
help
friends
of
robert
crown
in
their
fundraising,
and
so
those
donations
were-
and
you
can
see
this
in
the
resolutions
passed
by
council
when
council
did
vote
on
these
naming
agreements,
those
those
those
contributions
were
sent
to
friends
of
robert
crown
and
then
were
simply
subsumed
into
the
transfers
that
friends
of
robert
crown
made
to
the
city.
C
C
Y
I'll
speak
to
robert
cronin
for
a
minute,
but
then
I
hope
we
can
move
on
because
we
have
a
lot
of
ground
to
cover
tonight.
We
have
350
million
dollars
worth
of
ground
to
cover,
so
my
understanding
of
the
robert
crown
maintenance
fund
is
that,
as
councilmember
wynn
indicated,
it
was
a
requirement
of
I
believe
the
crown
family
that
we
set
aside
money
for
long-term
maintenance
needs
on
the
facility
replacing
a
new
roof
replacing
the
boiler.
Y
I
think
we
all
would
agree
that
if
you
maintain
a
facility
on
a
regular
basis,
you
can
minimize
long-term
costs
and
the
better
care
you
take
of
a
facility
on
a
regular
basis.
The
lower
your
long-term
capital
expenses
will
be
so
I
do
think
we
could
make
a
legitimate
argument
to
use
the
maintenance
fund
for
routine
preventative
maintenance
on
mechanical
systems
and
stuff.
If
we
do
that,
fine,
that's
more
money!
We're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
somewhere
down
the
line
for
some
big
ticket
item,
so
I
think
that's
the
trade-off.
Y
Do
we
do
we
dig
into
the
to
the
reserve
fund
now
and
have
to
come
up
with
more
later
or
do
we
keep
it
in
the
reserve
fund
so
that
in
eight
years,
when
we
have
to
replace
a
boiler
or
whatever
it's
a
much
less
painful
proposition,
I
will
come
down
on
having
it
be
a
much
less
painful
proposition
in
eight
to
ten
years
and
having
to
come
up
with
revenue
to
maintain
the
facility
at
adequate
levels
somewhere
else
other
than
the
other
than
that
designated
maintenance
fund.
Y
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
on
on
robert
crown
happy
to
take
the
discussion
in
other
directions.
Unless
someone
else
wants
to
weigh
in
on
ground.
B
Not
only
crown
so
happy
to
move
on
from
the
crown
discussion.
Okay,
well,.
C
I
think
oh
so
council
member
suffered
in
his
next.
AC
Thank
you
so,
as
I
guess
there's
a
question
of
councilmember
kelly,
do
you
you
have
an
ask
or
like
a
specific
item
that
you
want.
I
don't
know
if
she's
out
of
time
and
I
can
yield
mine
or
whatever,
but
I
just
I
don't
understand
what
the
ask
is.
Z
My
ask
is
that
we
use
the
current
350
000
in
the
maintenance
fund
towards
this
expense.
I
believe
we're
also.
We
have
a
line
item
where
we're
also
putting
in
another
175
000
into
the
fund,
so
that
will
replenish
the
fund
by
that
much
so
I'm
saying
the
existing
350
000,
that's
in
there
that
that
go
towards
that
expense.
If
we
really
need,
if
we
really
have
an
appetite
and
we
we
really
feel
we
want
to
spend
money
on
four
new
employees.
I
think
that's
also
something
that
we
should
discuss.
Z
But
that's
what
I
say
if
we
all
agree
that
we
need
3.5
or
whatever
the
number
I
think
it's
3.5
employees,
then
I
think
that
the
fund
should
come
from
there
and
I
think
we
should
know
how
much
and
in
the
mou
daniel
it's
very
much
it's
very
clear
that
the
city
and
the
friends
of
robert
crown
agree
on
this
jointly
on
the
naming,
which
is
still
very
unclear,
how
some
of
this
happened
and
that
the
city
tracks
the
funds,
and
it
says
that
explicitly
in
the
mou
for
five
years,
so
I
say
where
the
funds.
Z
Let's
look
at
that,
how
much
is
and-
and
we
shouldn't
forget-
the
city
spent-
the
taxpayers
spent
over
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
a
fundraiser,
so
we
invested
in
fundraising.
We
should
know
how
much
is
sitting
in
fundraising,
accounts
too,
to
offset
the
burden
on
our
taxpayers
for
this
rec
center.
Thank
you.
So
my
ask
is
that
this
money
instead,
that
we
not
that
it
not
be
allocated,
as
is
presently
in
the
proposed
budget,
but
rather
taken
from
the
maintenance
fund?
Okay,.
C
So
I
know
customer
kelly
owed
your
light
on.
Was
that
what
you
wanted
to
turn
your
light
on
to
say?
Okay,
so
I
see
no
one
else
requesting
to
speak.
I
don't
know
if
that's,
because
no
one
wants
to
talk
about
anything
in
sp1a
or
if
no
one
wants
to
talk
anymore
about
crown,
so
folks
want
to
jump
in
with
other
items
before
we
move
to
part
b.
Let's
begin
with
council
member
nusma,
who
has
three
minutes
left.
Y
Y
One
idea
that
is
missing
from
that
list
of
possibilities
is
savings
elsewhere
in
the
budget.
So
I
just
like
to
put
that
on
the
table
is
that,
in
addition
to
finding
new
sources
of
revenue,
we
could
we
could
move
revenue
from
one
department
into
another
department.
We
could
make
cuts
somewhere
to
fund
growth
somewhere
else.
Y
Also,
I
am
concerned
that
the
500
000
we're
talking
about
for
comprehensive
and
strategic
planned
consulting,
which
is
meant
to
include
climate
action,
environmental
justice.
I
mean
I'm
concerned
that
those
two
very
important
concepts
might
get
lost
in
the
in
that
process,
despite
our
best
intentions.
Y
So
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
create
a
climate
action
fund.
Maybe
we
call
it
the
carp
implementation
fund.
Maybe
we
call
it
the
the
climate
action
and
and
resilience
fund
or
the
climate
action
environmental
justice
fund,
but
we
have
a
discrete
fund.
Y
This
will
allow
us
to
plan
into
the
future.
You
know
well
past
our
carp
deadline
or
our
arpa
deadline,
and
we
would
use
that
money
to
fund
sustainability,
environmental
justice
for
whatever
personnel
we
want
to
put
into
that
fund
and
as
well
as
programs
and
other
investments,
so
I'll
I'll,
throw
that
out
there.
If
my
colleagues
are,
if
there's
consensus
with
that,
that
would
be
great,
and
I
had
one
more
comment
I
wanted
to
make
at
this
point,
but
I
will
hold
off
on
that
for
right
now.
AA
Well,
I
just
like
to
jump
in
and
second
council
member
nusma's
suggestion
about
a
climate
action
and
resilience
fund.
I
think
be
very
helpful
to
be
able
to
know
that
we
were
regularly
seeing
money
going
into
that
fund
and
that
it
was
available,
then,
to
help
with
the
really
significant
costs
that
are
ahead
of
us
as
we
try
to
as
we
work
to
implement
the
carp.
So.
C
Thank
you,
I
don't
see
any
more
lights.
Does
anyone
else
want
to
speak
councilmember
burns.
AD
Now
so
I
have
a
question
regarding
a
new
position,
but
not
a
proposed
hadoop
position.
Is
this
the
time
to
speak
to
that?
Okay?
I
guess
I
have
a
question
for
edgar.
If
he
is
there,
you
go.
AD
Hey
guys,
this
is
about
trying
to
pull
up
the
memo.
I
think
it
was
it
was.
The
memo
was
called
like
special
pickups,
but
the
referral
that
I
had
maybe
one
sec
so
quick
question
the
one
it
mentioned
that
there's
one
spare
truck
is
used
when
one
of
the
regular
trucks
is
down
for
maintenance.
Are
you
able
to
keep
up
with
the
volume?
Is
that
one
truck?
AD
Are
we
seeing
that
that
multiple
trucks
are
down
at
one
time,
and
even
that
one
spare
truck
is
not
enough
to
keep
up
with
the
volume
yeah.
AE
That's
definitely
correct.
Last
I
chucked
we
actually
have
three
packers
down.
Unfortunately,
it's
even
three
of
our
newer
packers,
but
even
with
that
spare
there
we're
always
still
short.
We
have
to
combine
routes,
adding
more
workload
to
not
only
the
truck
trucks
that
are
out,
but
also
the
employees
that
are
out
there,
making
their
days
harder
and
more
extraordinary.
AD
Yeah
I
mean
because
I
know
in
in
the
memo
it
it
talks
about
adding
two
new
positions
and
and
two
new
vehicles
or
one
one,
a
20-yard,
packer
truck
and
one
pickup
truck
in
order
to
address
my
concerns,
and
it
really
talked
about
trying
to
address
special
and
bulk
pickups
that
aren't
reported,
and
I
see
the
issue
is
a
little
different
than
that.
I
think
the
community
would
be
willing
to
report.
AD
You
know
these.
These
make
these
complaints,
but
they
they
want
to.
They
need
to
know
that
if
they
make
the
request
that
they're
going
to
get
serviced-
and
so
my
question
is,
I
wonder
instead
of
hiring
these
two
new
positions,
can
we
just
look
at
an
equipment
operator
and
a
new
packer
truck
as
opposed
to
having
a
crew
leader
going
around
in
a
pickup
truck?
But
just
do
some
public
service
announcements
saying
hey,
look:
we've
added
additional
staff
or
whatever?
AD
Maybe
we
don't
do
that,
but
just
indicate
to
the
community
that
they,
you
know
they
can
use
3-1-1
to
you,
know,
report
issues
of
to
report,
report,
special
pick-up
needs
and
and
fly
dumping
needs
and
again
instead
of
having
those
two
new
positions
in
the
pickup
truck.
Just
a
new
equipment
operator
and
the
20-yard
packer
truck.
AE
Yeah
so,
unfortunately,
the
equipment
is
only
half
the
issue.
The
other
issue
is
just
the
amount
of
staff
that
we
have
right
now,
especially
with
either
being
out
ill
vacation
days
other
benefit
time
off.
We
barely
have
enough
staff
to
collect
the
routes
that
we
have
also
complete
our
street
sweeping
operations.
AE
AD
So,
just
to
be
clear,
I'm
saying
instead
of
a
new
crew
leader
and
equipment
operator,
what
if
we
just
went
with
the
a
new
equipment
operator
and
a
20-yard
packer
truck,
because
in
the
memo
it
said
that
the
crew
leader
would
only
go
around
in
a
pickup
truck
and
like
identify
unreported,
you
know
special
pickup
neat.
You
know
issues
and
and
fly
dumping
issues.
What
if
we
just
had
a
new
equipments
person.
AE
So
the
crew
leader
would
be
doing
more
than
that.
Well,
yes,
and
in
the
memo
stated,
they
will
go
out
looking
for
that,
but
that
would
be
part
of
their
duties.
They
would
also
be
either
driving
the
truck
again
if
we're
short
somewhere
else
that
crew
leader
would
be
the
one
doing
the
pickup
themselves
and
again
filling
in
for
any
other
route
driver.
That's
out
for
the
day.
N
AE
Hopefully,
if
they're
up
yes,
if
not,
you
know,
luckily
we
have
other
departments
that
have
been
lending
some
trucks
right
now,
they're,
not
the
best
to
use
for
this
type
of
operation.
But
when
push
comes
to
shove,
we
can
definitely,
you
know,
get
creative,
okay,
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
Yes,
okay,
I
have
a
few
questions.
First,
turning
to
the
memo
that
requested
regarding
vacant
properties
is
johanna
and
martin
available.
B
Great
so
I
see
here
so
I'm
extremely
interested
in
increasing
the
vacant
property
registration
fee
right
here
I
see
that
the
annual
registration
with
a
one-time
inspection
fee
is,
you
know
the
annual
registration
is
400
roughly,
and
it's
so
something
like
to
see
that
increase.
I
see
that
the
tier
fee
schedule
that
is
recommended
here
is,
you
know,
400.
You
know
potentially
400
annually
for
the
first
three
years,
750
for
four
to
ten
years
and
then
a
thousand
dollars
eleven
years,
plus
I'm
interested
in
a
tiered
schedule.
B
That
is
similar
to
that.
Although
I
think
we
should
really
step
up
a
lot
faster
to
encourage
folks
to
move
with
their
property.
So
I'd
love
to
see
the
staff
come
back
with
a
proposal
that
looks
at
the
annual
fee
being
400
to
the
first
two
years
and
then
four
years,
three
through
five,
that's
being
stepped
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
annually
and
then
anything
over
five
years,
seeing
that
stuff
jumped
at
about
fifteen
hundred
dollars
per
year.
If
someone
keeps
landing
faking
for
over
five
years,.
AF
Good
evening
johanna
niden
community
development
director,
my
understanding
is
we
will.
We
would
be
bringing
ordinances
with
these
these
changes,
so
we
can,
if,
if
the
council
would
like,
we
can
bring
that
back
with
that
ordinance
change
and
if
we're
at
that
point
yet,
but
we
are
definitely
in
support
of
a
tiered
structure
for
vacant
buildings
to
disincentivize
long-term
vacancies.
AF
B
Yeah,
thank
you
johanna.
I
do
want
to
so.
I
wanted
to
note
that
I
also
want
to
request
a
memo.
I
don't
think
it's.
I
don't
think
I've
seen
it
laid
out
specifically
anywhere.
This
is
for
likely
miss
big.
It's
laura
biggs
chief
engineer,
biggs.
I
would
like
to
see
numbers
on
the,
and
also
I
guess
for
mike.
B
You
know
separately,
but
I
want
I'd
like
to
know
what
specifically
our
annual
spend
on
street
resource
resurfacing
is,
and
then
particularly
I'd
like
to
know
what
our
annual
cost
on
maintaining
our
parking
infrastructure
is
and
if
to
just
ensure
that
we're
providing
enough
revenue
for
those
two
two
items.
AG
Hi
this
is
laura
biggs
city
engineer.
I
don't
have
all
the
numbers
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
I
can
write
a
more
detailed
budget
memo,
but
we
spend
approximately
1.2
million
dollars
on
resurfacing,
that's
funded
by
motor
fuel
tax.
In
a
year
we
spend
another
two
to
three
million
dollars
on
other
road
projects
that
are
bond,
supported,
whether
it's
patching
or
matching
funds
for
large
projects
and
then
parking
fund.
We
spend
around
one
and
a
half
to
two
million
dollars
a
year,
but
much
of
that
goes
towards
the
parking
garages.
B
And
then,
lastly,
I
would
like
to.
B
I
requested
a
I
made
a
referral
on
a
head
tax,
for
you
know
our
larger
businesses
in
time,
particularly
relating
to
the
head
tax
for
our
larger
businesses,
who
are
hiring
folks
who
are
not
evanstonians,
and
that
was
referred
to
the
finance
and
budget
committee.
But
the
finance
and
budget
committee
will
not
be
meeting
until
after
the
budget
is
already
passed.
B
R
Sure
budget
manager,
kate,
lewis
lincoln,
that
is
in
our
memo
list,
I
am
hoping
it
can
be
provided
this
week.
We
are
doing
some
research
on
that
option
and
we'll
we'll
at
least
propose
sort
of
what
we
learned
from
our
research
on
that
option.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
and
then
give
me
one
second,
certainly
if
there's
anyone
else
who
wants
to
jump
in
I'll
see
time,
but
also
for
the
registration,
rental
fees,
I'd
really
love
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know.
This
may
be
something
we
have
to
include
over
time,
but
I
I'd
love
to
get
a
sense.
We
have
any
idea
of
the
number
of
units
that
are
at
various
ami
requirements.
B
I'd
love
to
see
how
many,
if
we
have
any
handle
on
how
many
units
are
out
there,
that
would
require
200,
mi,
250,
300
whatever
and
get
a
determination
of
what
staff
thinks
luxury
is.
I
do
see
in
the
budget
memos
there's
a
per
square
foot
arrangement
that
that
staff
has
thought
of
I'm
just
thinking
of
it.
You
know
as
a
percentage
of
ami,
you
know
for
the
number
of
bedrooms.
So
if
it's
a
one
bedroom,
you'd
assume
it's
a
you
know
one
person.
B
B
What
is
ami
for
those
folks
and
then
what
becomes
luxury
so
I'd
love
to
get
an
idea
on.
You
know,
revenue
that
is
available
there
and
then.
B
And
then
the
progressive
fee
and
fine
structure,
that
was
something
that
was
made
in
a
referrals
committee
and
has
not
been
assigned
to
an
actual
committee,
an
actual
standing
committee
of
the
council,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
again
there.
If
staff
has
claims
on
a
memo
there
to
look
at
you
know,
particularly
if
we
were
to
talk
about
you
know:
parking
related,
fines
and
fees.
C
Okay,
I
think
the
the
feedback
is
that
folks
will
get
back
to
you.
I
believe
in
writing
as
quickly
as
possible.
C
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
seeking
to
speak
on
item
sp1a.
AH
I
just
will
add
that
I
I
don't
have
examples
in
front
of
me,
but
I
would
agree
with
councilmember
newsma
and
I
brought
this
up
in
years
past.
I
think
that
there
are
ways
in
which
we
can
look
at
some
spending
items
so
the
building.
As
far
as
I
understand
it,
is
still
not
fully
open.
So
we
have
lots
of
staff
that
are
still
working
at
home.
AH
I
don't
know
what
the
opening
plan
was,
but
that
was
part
of
the
reason
I
questioned
the
need
for
so
many
cars,
and
I
know
in
the
budget
each
year
when
I
look
at
things
like
food
expenses
by
department.
I
don't
know
what
we've
done
to
I'm
all
for
staff
lunches
and
such,
but
you
know
maybe
looking
at
happiness.
I
know
if
I'm
correct,
we
still
are
offering
car
allowances,
which
we
stopped
at
some
point
but
then
started
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic
when
people
are
at
home.
AH
So
there's
car
allowances
that
people
are
receiving
that,
I
would
say
you
know
given
given
our
financial
insecurity
outside
of
our
funds.
Maybe
it's
not
needed,
particularly
if
folks
are
still
not
being
required
to
come
into
the
building,
and
so
those
things
are
not.
You
know
necessarily
big
ticket
things,
but
I
would
love
for
us
to
look
at
the
budget
in
a
way
of
which
we
budget
our
own
family
dollars
and
really
thinking
of
how
we
can
cut
back
on
on
some
expenses.
So
we're
not
always
looking
at
you
know.
AH
We
know
our
cost
of
staffing
is
going
to
go
up
based
on
our
union
contracts,
and
so
that's
not
always
a
given
pass
through
to
our
residents
and
tax
increases
when
we
know
that
our
residents
are
also
always
com
complaining
about
the
fees
in
which
they
pay
and
to
claire's
point
I
don't,
I
don't
support
using
the
equipment,
they're,
not
equipment,
but
the
maintenance
fee
in
that
way,
because
you
know
I've
sat
here
while
we've
had
buildings
crumbling.
AH
However,
you
know
the
fact
that
we
need
two
or
three
more
staff,
because
the
building
is
taking
more
effort
to
run.
I
think
just
shows.
You
know
that
we
had
a
huge,
miss
somewhere
right.
We
knew
how
big
the
building
was
going
to
be.
We
knew
all
the
facilities,
I
mean
we
knew
everything
that
was
going
to
be
in
the
building.
So
now
that
we're,
you
know
kind
of
surprised
in
that
the
number
of
staff
it
takes
to
run.
AH
The
building
is
a
little
bit
of
a
miss
on
our
point,
so
I
mean
we
have
to
pay
for
it.
It's
a
new
building.
We
need
to
keep
it
running,
but
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
I'm
really
looking
for.
You
know
the
city
manager's
office,
as
well
as
the
cfo
to
be
thinking
about
when
they're.
Looking
at
these
budgets
that
are
presented
to
us
by
staff,
I
mean
we
just
do
some
underestimating,
maybe
in
some
points,
and
so
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
about
that.
AH
Why
also
thinking
through
you
know,
all
of
the
things
we're
paying
for
essentially
are
going
to
be
paid
for
majority
of
them
by
our
taxpayers,
and
we
continue
to
hear
about
our
taxpayers
being
frustrated
by
increased
property
taxes,
but
also
increased
fines
and
fees.
And
so
you
know
we
can't
do
it
all,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
just
be
super.
Mindful
and
fiscally
conservative
about
things
we
are
doing.
D
Well,
I
can't
say
most
of
our
staff
is
not
back
not
physically
working
from
an
office
location.
Most
of
the
civic
center
staff
has
not.
I
am
working
on
bringing
them
back,
so
our
vaccination
policy
takes
effect
november
15th
and
presuming
we
will
have
compliance
from
staff
or
for
the
policy
we'll
be
looking
at
bringing
back
staff
into
the
civic
center
on
a
plan
we
had
to
first
ensure
that
the
building
was
safe.
To
do
so.
We've
determined
that
it
is
safe
to
do
so.
D
We
had
some
environmental
studies
done
concerned
about
some
leaking
and
some
possible
mold
issues,
and
we
know
now
that
that's
not
a
cause
for
concern
other
than
the
leaking
which
we
will
be
addressing
the
cars
out
in
the
lot
are
being
used
by
city
staff,
they're
being
used
for
inspections
and
other
city
business.
So
maybe
there
was
a
period
of
time
that
wasn't
happening
where
we
were
really
locked
down,
but
that
the
cars
and
the
lot
are
in
use.
D
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aware
of
that
in
terms
of
staff
lunches,
at
least
in
the
civic
center-
that's
not
really
happening,
because
staff
are
either
bringing
their
own
lunch
going
out
to
lunch
or
meeting
remotely.
So
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
lunch
meetings.
D
C
Z
Okay,
thank
you
just
regarding
staffing.
This
isn't
exactly
this
isn't
on
this
page.
In
fact,
it
hasn't
been
in
our
budget
for
a
long
time.
We
used
to
have
it,
I'm
probably
going
to
get
the
term
wrong,
but
we
used
to
have
like
a
lag
pay
line
so
every
year,
when
you
budget,
for
so
many
employees,
you're
always
going
to
have
a
certain
number
that
are
out
while
you're
when
someone
either
quits
or
retires
before
you
hire
so
there's
always
and
so
usually
over
a
million
dollars
and
that
got
eliminated.
Z
I
think
we
should
consider,
because
that
is
money
that
we
will
save
every
year.
We
can
count
on
you
know
when
we
budget
so
many
positions.
Z
R
Sure
so
so
what
you're
referring
to
is
sort
of
budgeting,
some
sort
of
savings
to
represent
when
we
have
vacant
positions,
since
typically,
when
someone
leaves
the
city,
it
takes
us
a
couple
of
months
to
fill
that
position.
That
position
does
feel
vacant.
That's
not
been
the
practice
of
the
city,
we've
we've
done
it
once
or
twice
in
my
five
years
with
the
city,
where
we've
budgeted
at
maybe
98
99
percent
of
all
salaries.
R
When
we
have
vacancies,
there
is
sometimes
you
know
there
are
payouts
that
when
someone
leaves
are
then
are
an
additional
expense
that
we
don't
always
anticipate
that,
then
the
vacancy
helps
helps
to
support
as
well
as
well
as
any
fill-ins
that
maybe
may
need
be
required
in
the
time
when
we
have
that
vacancy
to
support
the
service,
it
could
be
the
direction
of
council
2
budget
for
those
savings,
but
it's
not
staff's
recommendation.
Z
Thank
you.
I
think
I
would
like
to
ask
that
we
consider
consider
adding
that
back
end
to
be
actually
to
be
fiscally
conservative
on
behalf
of
the
taxpayers.
I
think
it's
to
to
the
residents
benefit
that
we
actually
have
that
add
in
there.
Of
course,
I
understand
for
staff,
it's
you
know
nice
to
have
the
I
mean
comforting
to
have
that
extra
buffer,
but
I
think
so
that
we
really
understand.
Z
C
I
know
that
your
favorite,
your
favorite
sentence,
is
ms
lewis.
I
can
begin
with
I'd
like
to
request
a
budget
memo,
but
what
I
think
might
be
the
best
way
forward
on
this
is
just
to
share
what
those
numbers
have
actually
been,
how
the
how
the
person
or
the
salary
budgets
and
actual
salary
payouts
have
have
compared
in
recent
years.
I
don't
know.
Perhaps
21
is
not
quite
close
enough
to
over
to
protect
properly.
Perhaps
20
is
too
pandemic
affected.
Maybe
we
have
to
go
back
to
17
80
19.
Z
C
Thank
you.
So,
let's
move
forward
now
to
item
sp1b,
which
is
the
issue
of
crossing
guards.
There's
a
memo
in
the
packet
describing
the
situation.
C
There
are
certain
public
and
private
schools
for
which
the
city's
provision
of
crossing
guards
is
reimbursed,
and
there
are
certain
public
and
private
schools
for
which
the
city's
provision
of
crossing
guards
is
not
reimbursed
and
staff
is
requesting
direction
from
council
on
how
to
proceed
on
this
issue,
both
in
the
coming
fiscal
year
and
and
to
set
a
precedent
moving
forward
is,
does
anyone
have
any
questions,
or
would
anyone
like
to
speak
to
this
matter?
G
AI
Thank
you
good
evening,
citycom
members
of
city
council
mike
rivera
parking
division
manager.
This
has
been
a
past
president
that
the
city
of
evanston
has
been
providing
for
over
20
years
for
providing
crossing
guard
services
for
currently
five
schools,
independent
schools
or
school
districts.
We
provide
crossings
for
eths,
district
202,
school
district,
65,
caravel,
montessori,
school,
st
athanasia
school
and
pope
john
paul
schools.
Now,
prior
to
years
ago,
it
was,
it
was
state
mandate
that
we
needed
to
provide
the
crossings
through
the
municipality
so
through
the
intergovernmental
to
the
illinois
governmental
tort.
AI
AI
Y
Okay,
so
I'm
not
advocating
that
crossing
guards,
don't
need
to
be
there.
I
just
want
to
understand
what
you
know
what
legal
structure
we're
operating
under.
I
think
I'm
gonna,
of
course
tie
everything
into
to
climate
action
and
carp,
I
think,
having
kids
walk
to
school.
Walk
to
school
safely
is
good
not
only
for
their
health
but
for
the
environment.
So,
however,
we
pay
for
them
crossing
guards
are
important.
Y
I
do
firmly
believe
that
private
schools
should
pay
for
their
own
crossing
guards.
I
don't
think
that
is
a
an
expense
that
should
be
borne
by
taxpayers
for
public
schools.
I
one
way
or
the
other
is
coming
out
of
my
pocket
and
evanston
residence
pocket
as
taxpayers,
so
whether
that
money
goes
through
the
city
or
through
the
school
district.
Y
I
guess
I'm
kind
of
ambivalent
about
you
know
I
would
love
as
a
city
council
member
to
have
more
money
available
on
city
stuff,
but
as
a
taxpayer,
it
doesn't
really
matter
so
to
me
in
that
case,
who
can
get
a
better
deal
for
the
taxpayers
that
both
the
district
and
the
city
report
to
is
it
if
it
makes
sense
to
do
it
through
the
city
great?
If
not,
then,
let's
look
at
other
alternatives.
AI
So,
council,
member
news,
that's
why
I
would
beg
that
different,
because
we
have
a
contract
with
andy
frein
services
to
provide
the
crossings
for
the
schools
when
andy
freyn
service
members
this
year
for,
for
instance,
has
been
a
very
tough
year
as
most
of
the
crossing
guard.
Members
are
retirees
so
since
ever
since
covet
has
been,
we've
been
going
through,
the
covet
pandemic,
they've
been
seeing
less
and
less
people
actually
wanting
to
be
around
the
children
and
wanting
to
provide
those
services.
AI
So
it's
been
very
tough
for
the
for
the
vendor
to
provide
the
crossing
guards
and
then
the
second
problem
for
the
city
is
that
when
the
vendor
doesn't
provide
a
crossing
guard,
we
subsidize
that
crossing
with
a
parking
enforcement
officer.
AI
So
the
problem
that
I
have
with
that
particularly
is
that
across
a
parking
enforcement
officers,
issue
four
to
six
tickets
per
hour,
and
then
we
have
to
pay
their
hourly
salary,
which
is
in
excess
of
thirty
dollars
per
hour,
plus
the
vehicle
that
they're
using
to
man
that
site
as
they
travel
to
and
from
so
manning
when,
when
somebody
is
absent
from
a
corner
cost
the
city
approximately
anywhere
from
130
to
180
per
hour
to
man,
a
corner
that
should
be
manned
by
a
school
district
or
or
a
private
school.
AI
They're
well,
the
contract
that
we're
that
we're
currently
working
off
of
is
the
2018
contract
that
we
had
released
a
request
for
proposal
at
that
time,
and
that
is
a
contract
that
it
was
due
to
expire
december
31st
of
2021
and
due
to
the
fact
that
you
know
we
haven't,
received
direction
on
which
way
to
go,
and
we
still
have
to
finish
the
school
year.
We
brought
that
to
council
to
extend
that
through
june
of
2022.
D
And
I'll
just
add
to
that,
because
we've
only
budgeted
to
fund
to
june
of
2022,
so
not
the
full
year
of
2022.
So
if
council's
direction
is
to
have
us
provide
for
the
crossing
guards,
we
need
to
adjust
that
in
the
budget.
AI
Correct
and-
and
with
that
being
said,
it
was
challenging
in
2020
to
budget
for
that,
because,
typically,
we
provide
two
crossings
per
day,
one
in
the
morning
and
one
in
the
afternoon,
when
the
schools
decided
to
go
when
district
65
in
particular
decided
to
go
to
a
hybrid
model,
they
decided
to
have
four
crossings
per
day.
They
didn't
ask
the
city
of
evanston,
they
didn't
didn't,
ask
us
our
input.
They
just
released
the
schedule
and
said
have
crossing
guards
there.
AI
Y
B
Yes,
so
two,
a
point
raised
by
councilmember
new
small
in
this-
is
that
it's
the
same,
whether
it's
you
know
evanston,
it's
you
know
leveling
some
taxpayers
either
way.
I
will
note
that
district,
65
and
202
are
not
the
fancy.
Legal
term
is
coterminous
with
the
boundaries
of
the
city
of
evanston.
B
In
fact,
there
are
taxpayers
outside
of
our
city
limits
who
are
supported
by
the
schools,
and
so
it
may
actually
make
sense
to
spread
the
level
a
little
further
just
to
mention
further
and
have
this
cost
born
by
the
totality
of
the
district
202.
C
AC
So
mike,
I
could
probably
guess
your
answer
based
on
your
previous
reply.
Is
there
a
single
efficiency,
that's
achieved
by
having
the
city
of
evanston
be
the
ones
who
contract
with
andy
frain
rather
than
having
the
in
the
case
of
the
private
schools,
the
private
schools
themselves
or
the
district
be
the
one
who
contracts
with
andy
frank
to
provide
this
service.
AI
AI
There's
not
anything
that
prohibits
that,
and-
and
just
you
know
just
so
that
you
know
in
recent
years
there,
between
2014
and
2019.
There
has
been
other
municipalities
that
have
either
stopped
providing
the
services
for
the
school
districts
or
have
entered
into
revenue
shares
with
with
their
school
districts
and
that's
glencoe,
buffalo
grove
wheeling
urbana
and
eureka.
AC
Okay,
so-
and
you
know,
I
have
three
children
who
use
crossing
guards
every
day,
but
it
seems
like
this
is
like
a
tradition,
that's
been
carried
on
and
doesn't
make
any
financial
or
administrative
sense
from
a
practical
standpoint
what
it-
and
maybe
this
isn't
a
this
is
a
question
for
the
district.
AI
I
mean
that
that's
exactly
what
eureka
did
in
2014.,
they
told
their
school
district,
we're
not
funding
crossings,
okay
after
tax
date,
and
then
at
that
point
they
released
a
statement
to
the
school
and
at
that
point
the
school
reconsidered
their
position
and
their
budget.
They
came
back
to
eureka
and
then
entered
into
a
intergovernmental
agreement
to
provide
a
revenue
share
model
between
the
school
and
the
municipality
to
provide
those
crossings.
AC
Okay,
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
think
the
appropriate
thing
for
us
to
do
is
fund
this
to
the
end
of
the
school
year
and
then
enter
into
those
discussions,
because,
if
there's
not
a
single
reason
why
this
is
advantageous,
and
I
would
assume
that
the
schools-
you
know
they're
evansen's
a
community
with
a
lot
of
active
parents
or
one
volunteer-
I
mean
they
could
pick
up
the
vacancy
problems
that
that
we're
picking
up
with
paid
city
employees
with
with
parent
volunteers-
and
you
know
it
seems
like
it'd-
be
way
more
efficient
for
the
principals
of
the
school
to
deal
directly
with
the
district
when
there's
absenteeism
or
whatever,
rather
than
coming
through
you
or
coming
through
one
of
us.
AI
Sure,
and
just
so,
they
are
aware
that
you
know
we've
been
trying
to
manage
the
efficiencies
better
so
prior
to
2018.
This
was
an
in-house
service
that
we,
the
city
of
evanston,
had
more
staffers
in
the
parking
staff
division.
They
were
dedicated
to
hiring
and
managing
the
the
crossing
guards
and
the
crossing
guards
were
all
vetted
through
the
city
of
evanston.
AH
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know:
if
you've
had
this
conversation,
maybe
you
have
mike,
but
it's
in
our
budget
so
june.
I
would
like
you
know
you
or
kelly
or
whoever
is
in
charge
of
this
situation,
to
go
back
to
the
school
district
and
ask
them
if
next
year
they
could
at
least
do
half
the
cost.
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
fair
ask
there,
there
are
streets
or
you
know,
we've
done
it
for
years.
We're
willing
to
keep
doing
it.
AH
You
know
half
the
cost
for
another
year,
maybe
even
two
years,
and
so
that
they
can
kind
of
add
this
into
their
budget
cycle.
To
pick
up
the
total
cost.
I'm
like
I
agree
with
councilmember
newsman
that
the
private
school
should
just
be
paying.
I
mean
they
pay
tuition,
you
know
whatever
they
can
pay
for
their
home
crossing
guards.
All
together
looks
like
we
only
have
two
now
that
are
using
their
crossing
cards,
but
for
65
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
it's.
AH
It
is
not
with
all
I
mean
it's
not
at
all
out
of
the
realm
of
possibility
for
them
to
find
250
000
in
their
budget
starting
next
school
year
to
pay
for
half
these
crossing
guards
for
a
year
and
then
continue
our
conversations
about
how
they
take
it
over
full
time.
AH
Jonathan
to
your
point,
we
do
all
share
on
the
burden
of
taxpayers,
but,
as
you
know,
in
the
tax
bill
they
receive
like
40
or
something
and
we
receive
like
16,
so
we
don't
really
share
the
tax
bill
and
again
these
are
we're
providing
safe
streets,
we're
providing
all
the
things
on
the
street,
we're
plowing
the
streets
and
everything
else.
AH
AI
AH
I
think
a
half
is
good
next
year
I
mean
not
that
much
money,
but
either
whatever
you
can
figure
out
for
them
to
do.
I
imagine
they're
not
going
to
do
anything,
but
wherever
you
can
find
a
compromise
to
phase
us
out
of
this
business.
Having
one
of
the
districts
I
mean
having
one
of
the
schools
where
we
frequently
don't
have
a
crossing
guard
and,
as
tom
said
people
are
calling
me,
I'm
calling
you
by
the
time
you
even
get
somebody
over
there.
AI
C
D
Think
it's
important
for
council
to
know
that
the
school
district's
budget
starts
their
fiscal
year
starts
july
1st.
So
I
think
just
something
to
consider
for
what
it's
worth.
If
we
made
this
decision
now
to
phase
they
could
have
half
of
a
year
more
than
half
of
a
year
to
plan
for
next
year
in
the
following
year,.
Z
I
had
a
question
just
for
clarification
so
prior
to
2018.
Was
it
all
in
house
city
of
evanston
in-house?
Yes,
it
was
and
can
you
is
there
an
assessment
as
to
how
this
is
compared?
Cost
and
efficiency.
AI
Financially,
it's
it's
probably
very
comparable
efficiencies
we're
just
as
as
inefficient.
Now
as
we
were,
then
we
we
have
lost
staffers
in
the
parking
services
division
due
to
budget
cuts
during
the
2020
covet
year.
Those
individuals
haven't
been
replaced,
as
of
yet
so
it's
still
very
inefficient.
Managing
the
crossovers
thank.
Z
AC
AI
They
were
making
approximately
the
same,
which
is
20
per
hour.
It
was.
Z
Well,
I
don't
mean
necessarily
us,
but
I
just
thought
to
get
a
good
assessment
as
to
how
that's.
AI
C
Is
there
any
last
comment
on
the
crossing
guard
issue?
I.
AB
AB
Yes,
director
rivera,
are
you
finding
now
that,
or
is
andy
frain
finding
now
that
it's
it's,
the
situation
is
better
than
it
was
or
because,
or
has
it
has
anything
changed
during
the
course
of
this
year?
With
respect
to
now
that
we
have
vaccinations,
are
they
able
to
staff
better.
AI
They're
they're
still
having
the
same
staffing
issues
and,
and
even
I've
had
conversations
with
with
matt
driscoll
at
eths,
high
school
and
with
regards
to
busing
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
even
the
school
bus
services
in
town
are
having
the
same
issue
as
well.
C
I
I
don't
see
any
other
lights.
I
just
I
feel
like
happily,
I
feel
like
there
was
some
pretty
broad
agreement
in
the
comments
that
I
heard,
which
is
to
say
that
I
think
for
a
number
of
reasons,
people
feel
that
it's
appropriate
to
pay
through
the
end
of
this
school
year.
C
I
think
people
feel
very
strongly
that
the
city
should
not
be
in
the
business
of
subsidizing
crossing
guards
for
private
schools,
and
I
think,
people
I
heard
people
feeling
relatively
strongly
that
they
would
like
to
see
the
city
seek
to
phase
out
of
subsidizing
the
crossing
guards
for
district
65
as
well
beginning
with
the
discussion
with
the
district
about
their
next
budget,
which
they'll
be
you
know,
working
on
in
the
spring,
given
that
their
fiscal
year
begins
on
july.
C
For
july
1st,
if
I
summarize
the
sense
of
the
council
incorrectly,
please
speak
up
now,
because,
if
not,
I
think
staff
can
move
forward
and
make
plans
under
the
direction
that
I
just
articulated
did
I
did.
I
get
anything
wrong
that
folks
want
to
take
issue
with.
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
rivera
and
thanks
to
the
council
for
your
your
clarity
on
this.
That
brings
us
to
item
sp1c
the
questions
about
free
beaches.
C
Obviously,
we
instituted
a
new
policy
regarding
three
days
a
week
of
free
beach
access
for
evanston
residents,
and
the
question
is
what
to
do
this
coming
summer,
both
in
the
question
of
free
or
not
free
for
evanston
residents,
then
also,
potentially
for
the
question
about
what
about
non-evanstonians
and
also,
I
think,
there's
a
particular
question
about
skokie
residents
that
folks,
some
folks
have
opinions
about.
So
does
anyone
have
questions
or
input
or
feedback
on
the
issue
of
free
beaches
for
the
summer
of
2022,
we'll
begin
with
council
member
fleming.
AH
So
my
suggestions,
director
hemingway
my
math-
could
be
wrong
here,
but
looking
at
the
revenues
that
you
have
from
last
year,
just
at
the
resident,
not
the
skokie
and
all
the
other
people
was
about
somewhere
between
five
hundred
and
five
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars.
I
realized
we
have
the
skokie
agreement.
I
think
we
can
keep
the
skokie
agreement
in.
AH
We
can
still
allow
skokie
residents
will
be
my
suggestion
to
pay
what
was
once
the
evanston
rate,
because
it
still
be
discounted
above
people
who
are
not
getting
that
that
rate,
and
then
you
know
all
the
other
folks
still
paying
the
non-resident
rate
that
we've
already
had,
while
allowing
the
evanston
residents
to
be
free.
AH
AH
I
don't
know
and
that's
right,
the
I'm
not
sure
so,
even
if
we
go
with
the
daily
passes,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
it's
hard
for
me
to
gauge
how
much
of
that
is
evanston
resident.
So
if
you
can
just
kind
of
elaborate
there
on
your
your
estimates-
and
I
will
do
this
last
disclaimer
coming
out
of
covet-
I
know
that
you
know
we've.
We
knew
actually
during
clover.
AH
We
knew
how
much
people
were
trying
to
go
down
to
the
lakefront
just
to
get
some
air,
and
I
think,
last
year
we
saw
an
increase
in
usage
this
year.
Who
knows
what's
going
to
happen
given
beach
erosion,
but
I
do
think
it's
worth
us
having
if
nothing
else,
for
you
know
one
year
kind
of
as
we
still
recover
from
the
pandemic
free
beaches
for
evanston
residents.
AH
AJ
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
interim
city
manager,
gandursky
members
of
city
council
and
clerk
mendoza
lawrence
hemingway,
director
of
parks
and
recreations
councilmember
fleming,
the
numbers
you
started
out
absolutely
correct
with
what's
in
the
chart,
looking
at
the
preseason
endurance
season,
passing
for
city
residents,
the
one
piece
that
was
not
accounted
for,
we
do
not
track
the
dailies
where
they
come
from
and
so
from
me
as
a
department.
AJ
You
know
that's
where
that
extra
hundred
thousand
dollars
coming
from
based
upon
our
skokie
passes
and
how
we
track
them.
So
originally
the
request
is
750,
000
reduction.
So
you
add
all
that
up.
That's
where
you
get
750..
If
it
is
to
keep
the
100
000
revenue
in
the
direction,
then
our
reduction
will
be.
The
loss
of
revenue
will
be
more
closer
to
650,
based
upon
what's
presented.
C
Y
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
do
support
free
beaches,
seven
days
a
week
for
evanston
residents.
You
know
this
was
the
commitment.
I
understood
that
we
made
to
ourselves
when
we
passed
the
compromise
measure
back
in
may,
so
I
think
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
in
may
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
2022.
Y
AJ
Yes,
we
do
aquatics
camp
is
really
housed
out
of
greenwood
beach
and,
if
I
think
I
mentioned
this
previous
to
the
to
the
council,
we
didn't
even
open
start
our
season
with
greenwood
beach
open
as
the
lake
levels
receded
a
little
bit.
AJ
We
had
enough
surface
area
to
kind
of
open
up
greenwood
beach
just
for
the
residents
to
enjoy
the
aquatics
camp
process
and
registration
process
had
passed
by
that
point,
and
so
we
anticipate
and
are
hopeful
that
water
levels
continue
to
recede
and
we
plan
to
offer
a
aquatics
camp
for
2022,
so
you're
correct.
There
is
no
revenue
in
that
in
the
2021
or
2020
total
budget
line
items
for
aquatic
scam.
Y
AJ
X
AJ
Y
Y
Right,
but
how
much
you
know,
how
much
does
the
needle
move
with
aquatics
cam.
Y
Oh
and
as
far
as
skokie,
I'm
in
favor
of
a
discount
rate
for
skokie
residents,
if
they
want
to
give
us
free
access
to
their
pools,
we
could
give
them
the
evanston
raid
on
peaches.
B
Yeah,
I
just
I
want
to
say
I
I
want
to
second
what
councilman
renusmo
said.
We
made
this
commitment
to
make
sure
that
the
beaches
would
be
evans
and
residents
this
year.
I
think
we
should
keep
that
commitment
that
we
made
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to,
hopefully
working
to
see
how
we
can
more
intentionally
use
our
beaches
as
an
economic
development
tool
and
use
that
you
know
create
a
metric
for
the
economic
development
generated
by
our
beaches.
B
So
I'd
love
to
see
beach
tokens
continue,
but
I'd
love
to
see
them.
You
know
handed
out
in
a
way
that
we
can,
you
know,
maybe
work
with
them
the
chamber
downtown
to
to
provide
you
know,
discounts
somewhere
to
the
way
that
folks
who
have
northwestern
cards.
You
know
the
wild
kit
cards
or
whatever
they're
called,
can
folks
have
a
beach
token
or
beach
pass,
which
I
think
we
could
issue
you
know
more
freely.
B
Whatever
you
know
could
folks
receive
a
discount
for
for
for
going
to
the
beach
on
a
day
on
a
certain
day,
and
would
that
encourage
folks
to
have
from
the
beach
to
our
downtown?
Could
beach
tokens
be
used
to
validate
parking,
and
so
you
get?
You
know
an
hour
free
and
you
know,
as
we
maybe
look
at
adjusting
policies
you
get
an
hour
or
an
extra
hour
free
in
you
know,
parking
in
a
downtown
garage
to
encourage
folks
to
utilize
our
downtown
garages.
B
So
I
just
really
love
to
think
creatively
about
how
we
can
you
know
measure
the
impact
of
you
know
the
beaches
as
a
public
asset
and
a
tool
for
economic
development.
C
Thank
you.
Next
is
council
member
suffered
and
followed
by
braithwaite,
followed
by
kelly.
AC
Thanks
director
thanks,
so
we
have
to
reconfigure
our
arrangement
with
skokie.
Is
that
an
agreement
with
the
village
or
the
park
district?
How
does
that
work
park?
District,
okay,
so
like?
If
we
have
to
reconfigure
it,
we
could.
We
could
that's
that's
a
direct
negotiation
that
would
happen
between
you
and
your
counterpart
and
school
gear,
how's.
That.
AJ
Yeah
we,
you
know
we
will
take
well
what
I
can
do.
I
think,
if,
if
the
direction
for
the
council
is
to
keep
our
evanston
rate
in
place,
but
that's
the
fee
that
we
charge
the
skokie
residents,
that's
my
understanding
through
council
member
fleming's
suggestion.
We
would
just
do
that.
Okay,
nothing
changes!
AJ
AC
AC
AJ
I
wouldn't
want
to
give
away
negotiation
secrets
here,
but
if
it's
about
getting
more
access,
I
will
kind
of
use
the
amenities
that
are
currently
that
we're
swapping
our
agreement
on
it
is
the
current
pool
or
their
splash
pad.
You
know
our
residents
get
their
resident
rate.
I
will
start
there.
Okay.
C
Thank
you.
Next
is
councilmember
braithwaite,
followed
by
kelly.
G
Now,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
clearly
I
am
the
only
one
that
that
feels
this
way
and
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
the
information.
So
at
least
everyone
can
see
exactly
where
the
revenue
is
coming
from
at
1.15
million
1.1
million,
and
then
we
also
see
that
the
revenue
provides
more
than
just
the
beaches,
which
includes
boat,
ramp
and
other
operations.
So
my
concern
is:
we
all
understand
that
nothing
is
for
free.
G
G
Residents
have
not
pushed
back
from
paying
this
fee
and
I
think
we
do
have
free
beaches.
The
only
thing
is
you
have
to
get
a
token
so
as
we're
going
through
the
budget
process.
Clearly,
we're
not
voting
any
on
anything
now
1.1
million
dollars
for
a
problem
that
I
just
have
not
received
enough
feedback
to
say
that
I'm
willing
to
go
this
down
this
direction,
but
I'm
speaking
for
myself
right
now
clearly.
G
I
would
much
rather
invest
in
making
that
process
easier
for
those
who
are
complaining
about
the
barriers
make
that
process
easier
for
those
who
feel
that
this
should
be
a
public
asset.
But
why
remove
the
rep?
You
know
the
ability
to
collect
revenue
when
there
are
people
in
this
town
that
believe
in
paying
for
that
service
is
all
I
have
to
say
for
consideration.
Thank
you.
B
Just
point
of
information:
the
dollar
amount
was
incorrectly
stated
there.
It's
650
000,
not
almost
double
that
at
1.1
million.
C
I
think
well,
depending
on
what
you
add.
I
think
it's
that
right,
650,
I
think,
is
correct.
Sorry,
that's
right!
Next
is
council
member
kelly,
followed
by
revell.
Z
Thank
you,
councilmember
reed
for
correcting
that,
and
so
do
we
have
a
ballpark
idea.
I
know
we.
We
don't
really
know
how
many
skokie
residents
would
pay
but
like
if
half
did
how
much
revenue
we
might
generate,
because
that
would
definitely
offset
that
cost.
AJ
I
know
this
number,
the
number
of
actual
residents
I
mean
I
could
sit
down
and
do
the
calculation
based
on
the
revenue
received.
I
mean
and
do
what
our
tokens
cost
and
give
you
a
number.
I
mean.
I
just
don't
know
the
number
of
people
right.
You
know
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
could
sit
down
and
do
that
math
and
give
it
right
back.
Z
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
worth
sort
of,
and
I
know
again
we
don't
know
what
will
happen
because
we're
this
is
new,
but
if
we
were
to
charge
you
know
that
that
rate
and
what
we
would
generate
from
from
skokie
residents
and
then
also-
and
I
know
we
already
do
this
and
you
can
already
donate,
but
I
think
we
should
do
a
promotional.
You
know.
I
know
I
put
it
out
on
my
newsletter
for
donating
for
beach
access.
Z
Just
to
really,
you
know,
do
some
figure
out
some
good
pr,
because
I
know
in
my
ward
people
really
wanted
free.
I
I
got
a
lot
of
wanting
free
access
to
the
beach,
but
also
a
lot
of
people
that
would
love
to
support
that,
and
so
I
would
just
just
ask
if
we
can
maybe
do
a
little
pr
campaign
to
for
people
to
donate
for
for
beach
access.
I
think
that
would
be
very
popular
and
also
we'll
have
rental
right
next
summer,
the
kayaks
again
sure
great
okay.
Z
Okay,
terrific-
and
I
also
feel
we
should
reinstitute
the
tokens
whether
or
not
we
do
something.
Also,
you
know
electronic
is
fine,
but
I,
but
that
is
such
a
nice
easy
way
for
token
takers
having
been
a
token
taker
one
day
long
time
ago.
I
just
think
it's
really
easy
for,
rather
than
having
the
token
takers
have
to
look
and
decide
if
they're
evans
in
resident,
you
know
tokens
such
a
quick,
easy
way
to
when
you're
walking
in
so
I
think
that's
that
should
be
reinstituted
and
I
think
that's
about
it.
AJ
Thank
you,
councilmember
kelly
in
terms
of
process,
for
if
the
council
chooses
to
make
beaches
free,
it
will
be
probably
like
a
beach
pass
just
so
that
you
know
it's
rather
than
a
token.
That's
cost
that
we
could
potentially
save
on
on
actual
tokens
the
traditional
things,
but
as
staff
we've
been
thinking
about
how
we
would
manage
that,
and
it
would
be
a
pass,
you
know
we
will
have
residents
go
to
any
of
their
community.
Centers
show
prove
they
are
resident.
AA
I'm
piggybacking
on
council
member
kelly's
comments
and
your
comments
about
so
there'll,
be
a
process
then,
for
residents
to
come
into
the
community
center,
prove
their
residency
etc.
And
at
that
point
we
can
have
a
big
sign.
That
says,
you
know,
suggested
donation
or
you
know
some
because
I
do
agree.
I
think
they're
a
num,
a
lot
of
residents
who
appreciate
the
beaches
and
know
that
it's
an
expense
and
will
be
willing
to
pay
that
suggested
donation.
AA
So-
and
I
would
I
I
also
kind
of
I
liked
council
member
fleming's
id
at
the
very
beginning,
which
is
we
could
say
this
is
a
one
year.
Another
pilot,
it's
with
a
you
know:
free
beaches,
every
you
know
seven
days
a
week
and
we
have
a
chance
to
evaluate
it
again.
AB
Well,
I
I
agree
with
council,
member
ravel
and
fleming's
idea
about
reevaluating,
but
I
have
one
quick
question.
I
know
every
year
that
I
buy
my
beach
tokens.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
buy
extras
and
we
I've
done
that
for
the
entire
time.
I've
lived
here
in
evanston
just
bought
double
the
number
of
tokens
for
my
family.
AJ
AJ
So,
except
it
every
year
varies,
but
it's
been
as
low
as
about
eight
thousand
dollars
and
as
high
as
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
You
know,
as
you
look
at
some
of
the
historical
data,
so
you
know
let's
land
in
the
middle
and
and
that's
kind
of
your
average
each
year
over
time,
but
you
know
some
years
there's
more
donations
than
others.
This
is
a
you
know.
The
parks
and
rec
board
really
pushed
us
this
past
year
coming
out
of
kovit
on
donations,
and
I
think
each
of
them
bought
donated
past.
AJ
C
C
No
one
else
who
has
not
yet
spoken
is
seeking
recognition,
so
we'll
go
for
folks
asking
to
speak
a
second
time,
beginning
with
council
member
nusma,
who
has
four
minutes.
B
Thank
you
I
just
want
to.
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we're
doing
this,
we're
doing
it
looking
to
actually
remove
barriers.
So
I,
while
I
appreciate
one
suggestion
I
was
made
earlier,
I
think
if
we
make
people
go
to
some
beach
house
or
whatever
and
prove
their
status
as
an
evanstonian
that
keeps
the
barrier
in
place
at
least
part
of
it.
It
removes
the
financial
barrier,
but
it
puts
a
barrier
in
place
to
evidence,
estonians
being
able
to
just
go
to
the
beach.
B
I
mean
we
don't
force
folks
to
go
register
their
statuses
and
evanstonian
to
enjoy
our
parks
or
any
other
public
facility.
I'm
hoping
we
can
streamline
this,
and
also
you
know
adding
that
bird
and
the
staff
time,
for
you,
know
a
process
that
we're
not
going
to
be
collecting
funds
on,
I
think,
doesn't
make
sense.
So
as
much
as
we
can
reduce
you
know
the
need
for
staff
interaction
with
this.
B
I
think
the
system
that
we
had
in
place
this
year
worked
quite
effectively
where
you
just
you
know
we
we,
I
think
we
can
do
an
honor
system,
particularly
with
the
pilot.
I
think
we
can
try
an
honor
system
if
things
don't
work
out,
we
can
troubleshoot
from
there,
but
I
think,
as
we
start
out,
we
should
we
should
try
it
in
a
fairly
relaxed
manner
that
doesn't
burden
staff,
doesn't
burden
our
city
resources
and
reduces
the
barrier
as
much
as
possible,
particularly
for
the
pilot
to
to
evanstonians
enjoying
our
lakefront.
B
I
think
the
thing
that
we
should
that
I'd
really
like
us
to
focus
on
if
we
were
going
to
you,
know,
put
any
kind
of
burden
on
staff
time
with
this
process.
I
think
it
should
be
to
measure
the
impactfulness
of
you
know.
Other
revenue
of
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
auxiliary
revenue
is
the
right
word,
but
let's
just
say
that
you
know
or
ancillary
revenue
from
folks
coming
to
our
beaches
again,
maybe
parking
at
our
lakefront.
B
You
know
traveling
to
our
downtown
to
get
some
ice
cream
or
enjoying
you
know
something
on
a
lakefront
from
one
of
our
push
carts.
If
we
can,
you
know,
use
our
beach
tokens,
or
you
know
this
system
to
measure
the
impact
of
that,
I
think,
would
be
more
useful
than
just
having
folks
register
as
evanstonians
to
receive.
You
know,
access
to
our
like
fund.
AB
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
council,
member
reid,
I
I
have
to
say
I
disagree
with
you
on
this,
because
the
last
thing
we
need
is
to
have
our
our
beach
attendants,
having
to
ask
every
single
person
to
pull
out
their
driver's
license
and
determine
whether
they're,
an
evanston,
resident
or
not,
and
the
honor
system
means
that
we
lose
all
the
revenue
that
from
anyone
who
is
from
chicago
or
wilmette
or
from
out
of
town,
and
we
really
do
need
to
make
sure
we
collect
that.
AB
AB
They
just
saw
it
waved
you
through,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
and
and
what
we
did
find
is
over
the
last
year
or
so
is
that
our
beach
attendants
took
a
lot
of
grief
from
people
when
they
had
to
ask
them
for
proof
of
residency
or
even
to
wear
a
mask,
and
I
I
and
my
understanding
is
that
for
periods
of
time,
because
we
passed
this
so
quickly
that
our
beach
attendants,
just
let
anybody
on
which,
because
they
didn't
have
enough
time
to
to
prepare
and
because
of
the
concern
about
conflict.
AB
So
this
is
a
matter
of
someone
showing
their
driver's
license
or
showing
their
gas
bill
or
whatever,
and
then
they
get
a
card
which
they
just
hold
up
and
walk
right
through
onto
the
beach.
Just
as
if,
as
in
our
old
policy
and
then
our
daily
rates
people
can
people
from
chicago
can
pay
our
daily
rate.
I
would
like
that
to
happen,
so
we
do
capture
some
of
that
revenue
rather
than
having
to
have
everybody,
show
some
proof
of
residence.
You
know
if
we
just
are
going
to
open
up
the
gate.
AB
B
May
I
respond
to
that
since
I
was
directly
named,
I
will
say
that
you
know
non-evanstonians.
B
If
we're
worried
about
capturing
revenue,
we
are
certainly
charging
those
folks
to
pay
for
parking,
and
so
it's
far
more
likely
that
a
non
than
a
chicago
one,
someone
from
walmart
someone
from
scope.
I'm
sorry.
C
B
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
rule
that
says
that
the
member
can't
speak
more
than
twice
to
a
subject.
It
says
that
maybe
there
isn't
so
you
could
be
right,
yeah
I'll
bring
it
to
a
close,
so
chicagoans
or
folks
from
women
or
whatever
other
city
will
be
paying
the
parking,
and
we
know
that
the
average
stay
was
about
what
the
cost
of
a
daily
token
was.
B
So
certainly
there
will
be
some
revenue
captured
and
then
again,
if
we're
making
folks
pull
out
ids
or
other
things,
whether
it's
that
certainly
wasn't
happening
at
the
lakefront
this
year,
folks
were
just
going
by
the
honors
system
and
we
still
captured
a
very
respectable
amount
of
revenue,
and
then
certainly
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
force
evanstonians
to
to
have
to
pull
out
their
ids
or
gas
bills
or
anything
else
to
prove
who
they
are
just
to
go
to
the
beach.
C
Great,
thank
you
councilmember
kelly.
Your
light
went
on
and
off
for
you.
Okay.
Then
next
is
council
member
sufferden
with
four
minutes
and
15
seconds
left.
AC
Thank
you,
I
won't
use
it
all
and
lawrence.
This
probably
isn't
a
question
you
can
answer
necessarily,
but
can't
we
just
do
like
whatever
the
library
does.
It
seems
like
that's,
not
an
overly
burdensome
process
that
we've
already
tested
in
terms
of
residence
proving-
and
I
mean
let
you
know
like-
does
that
work
or
is.
AJ
To
work
with
her
to
see
what
she
does
for
residents
versus
non-residents,
and
you
know
if
it's
streamlines
and
make
it
easier,
we
absolutely
are
willing
to
implement
the
most
less
restrictive
process
that
we
can
figure
out
for
our
residents.
Yeah.
C
C
It's
an
emotionally
different
conversation,
but
in
any
case,
notwithstanding
my
feelings
about
the
winter,
I
I
want
to
sort
of
something
was
mentioned
a
couple
times,
but
not
directed
at
you.
It
appeared
to
be
the
case
both
anecdotally
from
in
terms
of
the
anecdotes
I
heard,
but
also
just
the
stuff.
I
saw
on
the
lakefront
this
summer
that
enforcement
of
the
evanston
residence
requirement
was
impossible,
essentially
or
very,
very
hard
sort
of
put
put
staff
in
a
difficult,
if
not
impossible
position.
N
C
AJ
So
again,
my
goal
is
to
minimize
conflict
because
your
gate
attendants
are
16
year
old
kids.
So
if,
if
someone
shows
up
without
our
token
pass
whatever
that
piece
is
if
they
are
adamant
that
they
are
evanston
resident,
we
will
say
we
just.
We
will
ask
them
to
go
to
the
one
of
the
beach
offices
just
show
it
they'll
get
the
pass
or
the
token
and
be
able
to
come
right
in
if
they,
if
it
becomes
too
much
of
a
conflict,
we
always
err
on
the
side
of
just
let
them
in
we.
AJ
We
don't
want
to.
You
know,
put
those
young
people
in
that
kind
of
position.
So
that's
how
that's
exactly
what
we
did
this
year.
You
know
we've
had
people
say
you
know
they
asked
folks
as
they
entered
the
gate.
Are
you
having
resident
nope?
Okay?
Well,
you
gotta,
you
know,
go
pay
yeah.
I
might
have
some
resident,
let
them
in
right.
We
just
were
put
in
that
kind
of
situation,
so
the
goal
is
to
minimize
any
type
of
conflict.
AJ
AJ
C
I
know
you
don't
have
data,
especially
about
the
people
who
didn't
pay,
but
I
mean
was
your
sense.
Obviously,
from
a
conflict
minimization
standpoint
which
I
agree
is
critical
from
a
conflict
minimization
standpoint,
it
worked
well
last
summer
from
a
non-evanston
residents
paying
standpoint.
How
do
you
feel
that
it
was.
AJ
Obviously,
with
three
days
free,
we
still
made
quite
a
bit
of
money.
We
we,
we
didn't,
have
an
issue,
you
know,
and
now
let's
go
back,
you
know
this
year
we
implemented
the
the
vipley
digital
pass.
AJ
You
know
people
resident,
you
know,
and
you
had
to
put
your
address
in
there.
So
you
know
we
were
able
to
tell
right
away
right.
So
there's
no,
you
know
people
came
with
the
past
resident
versus
now
resident.
We
we
we
just,
I
mean
that's,
not
an
issue,
most
people
who
enjoy
our
beaches,
whether
they're
from
skokie
or
chicago.
AJ
C
Thank
you
and
now
council,
member
kelly
with
three
minutes
and
20
seconds
left.
Z
Okay,
just
because
we're
on
the
beach
topic,
I
just
wanted
to
get
this
in
really
quickly.
The
high
school
will
be
returning
again
early,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
make
arrangements
and
it
can
be
done
between
northwestern
students,
high
school
students
and
we're
on
block
schedules.
Now,
so
you
know,
high
school
students
have
different.
Z
AJ
That's
a
great
point,
council
member
kelly.
The
practice
we
did
this
year
wasn't
new.
AJ
It
we've
always
done
it
when
the
young
people
go
back
because
the
majority
of
our
staff,
our
high
school
kids
and
slash
college
kids
in
the
month
of
august,
we
every
year
I've
been
here,
we
reduced
beach
operations
based
upon
those
who
are
available
to
stay
throughout
the
end
of
the
year.
This
year
was
no
different
sure.
Z
AJ
Z
AJ
Z
Thank
you
and
one
one
other
little
comment,
and
I
don't
know
I
mentioned
in
terms
of
revenue,
can
we
look
at
the
possibility
of
the
lincoln
street
beach
on
the
off
season
for
a
couple
months?
I
think
plenty
of
people
would
buy
if
we
could
do
dog
beach
on
the
off
season.
You
know
in
their
spring
early
spring
and
late
fall
for
a
few
months.
C
So
no
one
else
is
requesting
to
speak.
So
pardon
me,
everybody
sorry.
C
I
apologize
so
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
acknowledge.
First
of
all
that
there's
not
consensus
on
this
issue,
I
don't
wanna.
I
don't
wanna
sort
of
pretend
that
that's
the
case
when
it
isn't.
Let
me
tell
you
what
I
think
I
heard
as
the
kind
of
majority
view
and
again
folks
I
mean
I'm
I'm
trying
to
reflect
back
what
I'm
hearing
so
please
pipe
in.
C
If,
if
I'm
getting
this,
if
you
want
to
contest
that,
I
think
the
majority
are
supportive
of
at
least
you
know
in
2022,
for
the
purposes
of
this
budget
having
free
beach
access
for
evanston
residents,
there
was
limited
discussion
about
skokie,
but
what
I
heard
was
basically
for
the
skokie
population:
that's
used
to
getting
evanston
resident
service
from
the
parks
and
rec
department
in
the
city
of
evanston.
C
N
Y
C
I
appreciate
the
correction,
thank
you.
So
let
me
just
say
it
again,
both
for
the
record
and
from
hound
clarity
that
that
what
skokie
residents
would
enjoy
is
the
current
evanston
rate
that
they're
enjoying
and
there'd
be
an
opportunity
for
discussion
to
see
if
there
might
be
the
ability
for
us
to
do
better
in
exchange
for
something,
and
we
would
simply
have
to
figure
out
if
those
discussions
led
to
a
mutually
beneficial
arrangement.
C
And
I
think
I
think
it's
worth
saying
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
trying
to
be
creative
about
revenue
and
some
of
it
from
council
members,
kelly
and
reid
was
just
about
doing
different
things
we
haven't
done
before,
and
I
think
those
are
important
ideas
to
be
considered
and
some
of
it
also
from
council,
member
kelly
and
and
wynn
and
and
others
was
just
like-
let's
really
beat
the
drum
on
trying
to
raise
funds
from
the
community.
You
know
if
this
were
to
pass.
C
That's
not
when
when
it
passes,
we
can
say
to
the
community.
This
is
an
exciting
benefit
that
we're
doing,
because
we
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
Certainly
as
mayor
I
would
be
happy
to
say,
but
in
an
effort
to
support
this
effort
in
my
personal
capacity
I'm
buying
the
beach
tokens,
I
would
have
bought
an
ordinary
year.
C
Let's
invite
residents
who
have
the
means
to
do
that
and
want
to
be
supportive
of
this
effort,
because
they
believe
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
to
join
us
in
doing
that.
So
I
think
I
think
that
last
element
is
a
little
more
nebulous
than
just
making
free
or
don't
make
them
free,
but
I
think
it
is
worth
saying
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about,
let's
be
creative
about
looking
for
revenue
sources
to
support
this
with
the
with
the
welcome
correction.
Did
I
do
folks
feel
like
I've
represented
the
council,
faithful.
C
No,
I
mean
money
is
very
useful.
There's
no
question
about
it
all
right.
Well,
thank
you,
everyone
for
the
robust,
but
I
think,
really
important
discussion
and
let's
move
now
to
item
sp1d,
as
you
recall,
and
as
the
memo
in
the
packet
describes,
there
was
a
request
for
a
number
of
new
positions
in
the
budget
proposal,
and
staff
is
seeking
direction
on
what
to
do
vis-a-vis
those
requests
and
wanted
to
open
it
up
and
see.
If
there's
members
of
council
have
either
questions
or
feedback
about
those
proposals,.
B
Sure
I
hope
to
chime
in
go
ahead.
I
I
I
am
supportive
of
thus
far
what
I've
been
able
to
kind
of
do
a
good
dive
on
most
of
the
positions.
There's
only
one
position
that
I'd
love
to
ask
for
us
to
hold
off
on
and
there's
within
the
police
department.
There
are
a
number
of
positions
that
are
being
requested.
The
vast
majority
of
them
are
not
shooting
to
the
vast.
The
majority
of
them
are
civilian
positions.
C
Council
member,
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
same
page
and
I,
if
I'm
understanding
properly,
we
may
not
be
there's.
There's
two
different
collections
of
proposed
hirings.
One
is
the
restoration
of
positions
that
were
frozen
frozen
during
the
pandemic
because
of
covid,
and
then
one
is
a
collection
of
recommended
new
positions
which
I
think,
if
I'm
doing
this
right
are
found.
I
think
in
a
couple
places,
but
also
starting
on
page
17,
on
pages
17
and
18
of
the
packet.
C
As
I
understand
as
I,
as
I
recall,
the
positions
in
the
police
department
were
from
the
first
category,
the
frozen
positions
and
obviously
that's
a
really
important
thing
for
us
to
to
come
to
an
agreement
about
but
item.
The
item
that
we're
talking
about
now
is
for
the
proposed
new
positions
and
there's
a
there's.
C
A
reason
for
that,
which
is
that
the
staff
recommended
budget
included
funding
for
the
frozen
positions
becoming
unfrozen,
but
not
did
not
include
funding
for
these
potential
new
positions
and
so
in
and
in
fact
I
think
the
the
memo
says.
C
So
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward
with
these
new
positions,
they
could
be
supported
with
arpa
revenue,
loss,
increased
use
of
fund
balance
or
an
increase
in
the
property
tax
levy.
The
challenge
about
that,
of
course,
is
that
those
first
two
sources
of
revenue,
the
upper
revenue
loss
funding
and
the
increased
use
of
fund
balance
are
one
time,
and
so
eventually,
if
these
positions
were
to
be
retained,
they
would
likely
have
to
be
supported
with
property
taxes.
C
Z
I
think
we
really
need
to
well.
I
would
recommend
that
we
first
we
wait
for
those
budget
projections
before
we
make
any
decisions
at
all
on,
especially
well,
I
think
all
the
positions
unless
there's
something
urgent,
of
course,
barring
something
that
is
exceedingly
urgent,
but
otherwise
I
think
we
really
need
to
wait
till.
We
see
those
budget
projections
so
that
we
understand
the
implications
for
our
residents.
Z
So
that's
yeah.
I
feel
very
strongly
about
that
that
otherwise
we
don't
really
know
what
we're
getting
into
until
we
see
those
three
to
five-year.
Just
you
know,
finance
and
budget
committee
was
pretty
unanimous
and
feeling
that
that
was
really
important.
Before
we
had
this
one-time
one-time,
you
know
money
of
arpa
and
we
made
we
did
really
well
with
the
market
on
the
pensions,
so
it's
43
and
another
11
million
that
so-
and
I
know
that's
all
being
figured
into
this,
but
that
won't
be
there
in
years
to
come.
AD
New
positions
for
robert
crown,
that's
a
question
it
does.
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
move
on
those
personally
from
what
I
understand,
no
matter
whose
fault
it
was
in
the
past.
AD
It
is
of
the
utmost
of
importance
that
all
of
our
facilities
and
particular
ones,
which
will
say
all
have
but
facilities
who
the
residents
are
actively
using
that
they're
fully
staffed.
It's
a
safe,
huge
safety
issue,
and
so
I
I
do
feel
strongly.
We
need
to
move
on
those,
however,
the
the
other
positions
similar
to
council
member
kelly.
AD
I
I
do
not
feel
comfortable
moving
forward
with
positions
that
may,
unless
we've,
if
we've
only
identified
an
increase
in
property
taxes
in
the
future,
to
pay
for
it,
I'm
just
I'm
not
comfortable
making
that
decision
right
now.
I
need
additional
information,
starting
with
the
three-year
projection
that
we
talked
about
getting
at
the
budget
and
finance
committee
meeting,
which
is
a
really
good
meeting.
AD
C
Council
member
new
smith,
followed
by
fleming.
Y
I
will
note
that
there
are
some
positions
listed
under
administrative
services
as
well
as
positions
under
parks
and
recreation,
all
of
which
would
be
robert
crown.
So
there's
some
robert
crown
maintenance
facilities,
workers
as
well
as
some
robert
crown
programming,
related
staff,
and
it's
a
clarifying
question
for
council
member
burns.
Were
you
referring
to
both
such
both
categories
or
only
the
only
the
program
staff.
Y
Administrative
services,
the
facilities
maintenance
worker,
two,
the
hume
and
the
facility-
I
think
that
one
as
well
as
facilities,
maintenance
worker-
three-
that's
for
sure
at
crown
two
of
those,
so
those
are
at
crown
two
that
yeah.
So
I
do
think
you
know
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
take
care
of
our
assets
and
the
more
the
better
care
we
take
of
them
in
2022.
Y
You
know
the
less
expense
we
will
incur
on
a
long-term
basis
when,
when
things
go
wrong
better
to
prevent
problems
than
prevent
little
problems,
then
then
fix
a
big
one.
Y
Having
said
that,
I
am
reluctant
to
spend
arpa
money
on
salaries
unless
we
are
very
clearly,
you
know
filling
in
for
lost
revenue
that
we
anticipate
will
come
back
next
year
and
in
the
following
year
year.
After
that,
like
we
don't
want
to
put
ourselves
in
a
position
of
having
to
lay
off
staff
in
a
few
years,
because
there
is
not
enough
revenue
there.
Y
If
that's
the
case,
we're
talking
about
a
property
tax
increase,
unless
we
can
find
savings
elsewhere
to
echo
council
member
fleming's
point,
and
that
requires
a
but
a
deeper
discussion
than
I
think
we're
ready
to
have
tonight.
AD
N
D
I
just
want
to
address
a
couple
of
points
for
some
of
these
positions,
especially
the
community
development
positions.
I
think
it's
pretty
safe
to
say
that
the
revenue
generated
from
those
positions
could
cover
those
costs.
D
I
think
it's
harder
to
say
that
for
some
of
the
other
positions,
these
are
really
about
levels
of
service
provided
to
the
community,
but
I
think
any
which
way
we
slice
it.
I
think
it's
pretty
fair
to
say
that
we
would
have
to
look
at
other
revenue
sources
to
sustain
these
positions
and
some
other
costs
that
the
city
have.
Regardless
of
these
positions
going
forward.
AH
However,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
just
a
little
bit
more
that
once
we
get
all
these
staff
there,
that
you
know
we
as
council
members
are
not
fielding
calls
every
day
about
permits.
The
one
question
I
did
or
the
one
comment
I
guess
I'll
make
here.
I
made
my
comments
last
week
about
the
all
the
tree
staff
versus
some
staff
to
do
some
quality
of
life
improvements,
particularly
around
snow
removal,
is
the
recreation
manager
at
gs
morrison.
AH
AH
It
seems
to
be
that
it's
a
space,
that's
mostly
rented
out
for
party
use,
which
might
be
a
need
to
have
a
recreation
manager,
but
I
guess
before
I
move
forward
with
some
staff
and
I'd
like
to
kind
of
know
the
long-term
plan
for
the
building,
because
it's
not
really
been,
in
my
opinion,
utilized
its
best
capabilities,
and
so
before
we
put
more
staff
in
there.
I
like
to
know
that
we're
you
know
going
to
actually
be
doing
some
things
in
the
building.
AJ
AJ
AH
AH
But
definitely
agree
with
what
everyone
else
said
and
I
think
to
your
point
kelly
in
terms
of
looking
at
revenue.
I
you
know
I've
been
here
enough
to
see
us
cut
staff
because
we
haven't
had
revenue,
and
so
I
would
hate
to
bring
in
anybody.
You
know
we
only
had
enough
money
to
pay
them,
for
you
know
a
year,
maybe
a
little
past
the
year.
You
know
without
you
know,
having
a
fleshed
out
plan.
AH
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
stepped
out
of
the
room,
while
folks
are
going
through
their
list,
so
I
do
think
it
is
important
to
prioritize
our
parts
and
wrecks,
spend
and
as
well
the
community
development.
I
I
shared
this
earlier
that
we
all
receive
those
phone
calls
from
our
residents
with
complaints
of
the
backlog,
and
I
think
that
if
this
this
team,
this
funding
group
helps
to
make
that
run
more
efficiently.
It's
it's
well
worth
the
dollars
in
terms
of
the
revenue
numbers
that
I've
seen
in
the
past.
G
There's
one
position
that
I
have
edgar
is
he
still
in
the
room
or
maybe
oh
there
you
go,
sir.
Thank
you,
the
arborist
position.
I
definitely
think
trees
are
important.
My
curiosity
is
in
my
mind,
and
you
can
probably
change
this.
I
see
that
as
more
seasonal
in
terms
of
opportunities
get
out
inspect
and
do
the
things
that
an
arborist
would
do.
Can
you
just
give
me
a
real
brief
explanation
of
what
an
arborist
does
during
the
winter
time,
for
example,.
G
AE
Do
have,
I
believe,
it's
four
arborists
technically
that
are
certified
arborists
on
staff.
G
AE
So
this
arborist
that
we're
asking
for
is
related
to
the
tree
preservation
ordinance
if
that
passes,
just
our
workload
would
increase
significantly
with
that
and
that
this
one
would
be
the
one
year
round,
depending
on
the
construction
projects
and
applications
that
come
through.
That
would
be
going
out
doing
not
only
you
know,
inspections
of
the
tree,
but
give
recommendations
of
what
could
be
done
and
also
we're
not
working
on
any
private
tree
ordinance
related
issues.
AE
They
would
assist
with
just
general
inspection
of
all
the
trees
that
we
currently
have
32
000
trees
in
our
public
parkway.
As
you
guys
know,
we
get
a
lot
of
3-1
requests
about
that.
We
get
a
lot
of
storm
damage.
The
storm
damages
have
led
to
poor
conditions
on
these
trees
that
have
become
liabilities.
AE
AB
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
do
agree
with
those
who've
spoken
before
me
that
I
think
it
is
important
for
us
to
move
forward
with
all
of
the
employees
who
we
need
to
fully
staff
crown
that
building
is
it
isn't
even
at
full
at
its
true
capacity.
At
this
point
we
know
we
need
these
employees.
AB
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
the
building
is
running
appropriately
with
with
all
the
staff
that
it
needs.
I
also
agree
with
community
adding
the
community
development
staff
from
what
we
heard
from
the
director
this.
There
is
a
great
potential
that
this
will
be
run
a
revenue
generation
and
we
don't
want
people
bypassing
the
permitting
process,
and
you
know
people
get
tempted
to
do
that
and
I
as
much
as
I
discourage
people
from
doing
that
that
happens
sometimes.
So
I
think
those
are
positions
that
I
could
support.
AB
I
do
also
think
that
you
know
our
our
trees
are
infrastructure
and
we
do
need
to
make
sure
we
are
maintaining
this
infrastructure.
I
think
that's
critically
important.
AB
C
Thank
you.
I
see
no
one
else
who
hasn't
spoken
yet
requesting
to
speak
so
I'll
call
on
folks
for
a
second
time
in
a
minute.
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
just
share
a
few
additional
thoughts
that
I
haven't
heard
represented
yet
and
look.
C
I
think
these
positions
are
are
really
important,
but
I
think,
as
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
prioritize
and
what
to
say
yes
to
now,
I
I
don't
see
us
so
much
saying
no
to
any
of
these
necessarily
as
saying
not
now,
perhaps
to
some
of
them
for
the
reasons
that
we
don't
have
a
revenue
source
to
to
pay
for
them,
and
and
so
that's
making
a
long-term
commitment
that
we
not.
We
may
not
feel
comfortable
with
the
mechanism
by
which
we
would
meet
that
commitment.
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
flag
on
two
other
observations.
One
is,
and
as
councilmember
reed
indicated,
we
haven't
nobody's
passed
anything
the
entire
budget
is
still
open
for
discussion,
but
I
have
the
impression
that
there's
relatively
broad
agreement
about
the
unfreezing
of,
if,
if
not
literally,
all
very
many
of
the
positions
that
would
that
are
recommended
to
be
reopened
essentially
subsequent
to
covid
elsewhere
in
the
budget
proposal,
so
that
that
speaks
to
the
fact
that
our
organization
would
be
growing
from
the
today's
status
quo
relatively
quickly
and
there's.
C
C
The
other
issue
that
I
would
flag
is
that
we're
you
know
still
in
a
pretty
darn
early
stages
of
a
nationwide
search
for
a
new
city
manager,
and
I
think
there
is
some
argument
to
be
made
that
some
of
these
decisions
might
benefit
by
being
made
under
under
the
the
new
regime
seems
like
a
weird
word
to
use,
but
under
the
new
city
manager.
So
those
are
just
two
other
considerations.
C
I
wanted
to
put
on
folks
minds
as
we're
as
we're
thinking
about
how
to
how
to
grapple
with
these
with
these
proposals.
So
now
the
to
go
to
folks
requesting
to
speak
for
a
second
time
on
council
member
kelly
with
four
minutes.
Z
So
I
agree,
I
think
we
also
have
an
interim
head
of
hr
right,
so
I
think
we're
in
in
a
position
with
an
interim
situation,
and
I
agree,
I
think
it
might
make
sense
to
wait,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
that
maintenance
fund
and
if
there
is,
I
mean
if
there
are
in
fact
urgent
positions
that
need
to
be
covered
again.
Z
I
feel
we
should
wait
until
we
get
that
three-year
projection,
but
if
there's
something
urgent,
if
it's
really
urgent
that
we
hire
these
maintenance
folks
at
robert
crown,
then
again,
let's
use
the
I
mean
it's
really
silly,
financially
not
to
use
that
money,
because
we're
bonding
out
for
that
money
and
we're
paying
higher
interest
and
we're
making
to
have
money
just
sitting.
There
is
ridiculous,
financially
ridiculous
spend
the
money
that
we
have
in
the
maintenance
fund.
It's
350
000
and
I
don't
even
know
if
we
should.
Z
I
mean
putting
107
bonding
out
to
put
175
000
every
year
into
that.
Also,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
makes
financial
sense
either.
So
again,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
that.
If
everyone
is
compelled
to
say
we
really
have
to
these
positions
are
urgent,
then
you
know
then
again,
let's
not
I'm
going
to
ask
again
that
we
consider
taking
it
from
the
maintenance
fund.
Thank
you.
R
Just
a
quick
clarification
that
the
maintenance
fund
is
funded
through
the
centers.
Sorry,
it's
funded
through
the
center's
operations.
It's
not
funded
through
bonds,
so
it
is
coming
out
of
the
operations
of
the
crown
center
every
year,
175
000
is
being
contributed
and
again
the
intention.
What
was
set
up
was
that
for
that
to
sit
and
wait
for
these
larger
replacement
projects
that
need
to
be
done.
C
So
I'm
seeing
no
further
council
members
requesting
to
speak.
So,
let's
start
with
ms
gandersky
and
then
we'll
go
to
councilman
smith.
D
I
think
I
need
to
state
the
importance
of
this,
while,
maybe
you
know,
you'll
have
a
new
city
manager
sitting
in
the
seat
six
months
from
now
a
year
from
now
whatever
that
may
be,
I
was
asked
to
come
in
and
identify
what
I
believe
is
critically
important
to
run
operations
and
that's
something
I
have
some
experience
with,
and
I
think
it's
really
critically
important
for
me
to
let
the
council
know
that
you,
you
can
choose
not
to
fund
these
positions
and
that's
fine,
but
understand
that
the
operational
inefficiencies
that
are
going
to
result
from
that
will
continue.
D
And
I
understand
funding
is
always
an
issue
and
it's
always
an
issue
in
government
to
determine.
Where
is
the
money
coming
from?
And
I'm
not
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
council
member
kelly
in
some
ways
where
we
we
should
look
in
council
member
fleming,
we
should
look
at
other
ways
where
we
can
we
can
save.
I
just
need
to
the
council
understand
that
we
are.
D
That
said
again,
I
think
we
we
are
exploring
creative
ways
to
look
at
other
sources
of
revenue.
I
think
we
are
probably
leaving
money
on
the
table
in
some
instances,
and
I've
asked
staff
to
take
a
look
at
where
we
we
are
doing
that,
because
I
think
we
owe
it
to
the
taxpayers
to
do
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
it
really
clear
that
you
know
I'm
the
first
one.
D
Kate,
if
you
can
verify,
I
think
some
of
those
already
scheduled
to
be
filled
and
our
hr
department
is
going
to
have
to
fill
these
all
assuming
the
council
funds
them
on
a
staggered
basis,
because
we
don't
have
enough
staff
in
hr
to
fill
all
these
positions
at
once.
So
we
could
be
looking
at
a
year
from
now,
even
if,
if
council
decided
to
give
us
these
positions
before
they'd
even
be
remotely
filled,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
Y
Mr
cano,
would
you
be
able
to
speak
to
that?
I
know
there
is
a
memo
on
the
topic
it.
So
this
speaks
to
the
arborist
position
that
councilmember
braithwaite
was
was
asking
about.
If
we
fund
that,
if
we
pass
the
ordinance
we'll
have
to
pay
somebody
to
enforce
it,
but
we'll
also
bring
some
revenue
some
revenue
in
as
well.
AE
Correct
as
of
right
now,
the
projected
amount
of
money
based
on
400
building
permits
that
we
anticipate
at
a
cost
of
one
hundred
dollars
per
permit.
That
would
be
revenue
of
forty
thousand
dollars
again
with
any
penalties
associated
with
this
ordinance
that
can
go
up
as
well
so
right
now
the
current
violations
stand
between
one
hundred
and
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
We
are
proposing
to
increase
that
to
five
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
per
occurrence
or
per
tree,
so
that
will
definitely
help
offset
some
of
that
cost.
500.
Y
AE
Y
AB
Y
I
agree
agreed
okay,
so
we'll
bring
in
some
money
that
will
at
least
partially
offset
this.
This
arborist
position
correct.
Thank
you.
B
Yes,
I
just
want
to
chime
in
on
comments
that
I
heard
from
manager
gandursky.
So
if
there
are
positions
you
know
given
the
state
of
our,
you
know
the
number
of
positions,
the
number
of
vacancies
and
positions
that
need
to
be
filled
and
the
state
of
our
hr
department.
B
If
what
you
said
is
accurate,
that
you
know,
you
believe
that
it
could
be
a
year
from
now-
and
you
know
a
number
of
these-
it's
not
like
you're,
saying
a
you
know,
a
good
number
of
these
positions
still
wouldn't
be
filled.
I
I'd
love
to
see
us.
You
know
if
that
is
the
case
to
again.
I
think
someone
else
mentioned
this
to
give
us
a
list
of
the
positions
that
you
think
are
most
critical
and
the
ones
that
will
be
hired
first
and
the
ones.
B
You
know
the
positions
that
you
think
it
may
not
be
a
year
until
those
positions
are
filled,
and
so
we
can
eliminate.
B
I
mean
I
would
say
if
it
seems
like
it
may
not
be
a
year
for
until
those
positions
are
filled.
Let's
just
eliminate
those
positions
from
this
year's
budget
request
and
bring
down
the
levy
or
not
that
no,
I
shouldn't
say
that
bring
down
our
overall
budget,
not
pretty
something
like
that.
D
Asking
me
to
prior,
I
just
have
to
say
this
asking
me
to
prioritize
which
of
these
positions
is
the
most
important
is
like
saying
which
one
of
my
children
do.
I
like
the
least
in
some
instances.
It's
it's
it's
dependent
upon
what
we're
valuing
the
community.
So
if
we
don't
fund
the
parks
and
rec
positions,
then
we
we
have
programming
for
our
children
that
we
that
may
not
be
able
to
happen
or
happen
as
efficiently.
If
we
don't
fund
the
community
development
positions,
we
know
what's
happening
with
the
permit
process.
D
If
we
don't
fund
the
public
works
positions,
then,
if
the
tree
ordinance
is
passed,
we're
not
enforcing
that
we're
leaving
money
on
the
table
and
same
with
administrative
services
are
asking,
for.
You
know:
maintenance
workers
to
keep
up
our
facilities
so
that
they
don't
go
into
disrepair
as
well
as
the
human
resources
specialist,
which
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
We
are
in
desperate
need
of.
So
I
I
I'm
having
I'm
loathe
to
say
to
prioritize.
D
B
Well,
okay!
Well,
then,
I
think
that
it
may
be,
you
know,
asking
your
priorities
or
staff's
priorities.
You
know
based
on
work,
but
if
there
are
positions
that
will
not
be
filled
for
the
greater
balance
of
the
year,
I
just
think
that
we
should
assess
those
positions
for
this
year's
budget,
and
I
think
that
would
help
us
you
know
with
with
determining
the
is
their
best,
but
at
the
you
know
not
that
we're
saying
no
to
these
positions.
B
You
know
that
you
know
our
children
are
beautiful,
but
you
know
some
some
are
more
productive
than
others
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
productive
children
if
we're
going
with
that
metaphor,
says.
B
Yeah
I.
D
Z
So
you
know
as
much
as
agree:
we
want
to
do
all
these
great
things:
free
beaches,
save
old
oak
groves,
get
new
zambonis
all
that
stuff,
at
least
as
much,
if
not
more.
We
also
want
to
relieve
the
burden,
the
financial
burden,
the
tax
burden
on
our
residents,
so
it
is
about
priorities,
and
I
hear
you
right
that
it's
really
up
to
us
to
figure
out
how
those
priorities
are-
and
I
know
we're
under
in
a
time
crunch
now,
but
somehow
we
need
to.
Z
I
don't
know
if
that
you
know
committee,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
this.
The
nine
of
you
know
10
of
us
up
here,
figuring
this
out
or
if
we
really
should
figure,
have
a
group
to
really
examine
personnel
and
priorities,
because
I
agree
with
you,
it
is.
We
do
want
to
do
all
these
things,
but
we
equally
or
more
want
to
ensure
that
residents
are
not
feeling
the
squeeze
not
just
next
year,
which
that
shouldn't
you
know,
won't
they'll
everyone
increase,
but
in
subsequent
years.
Z
So
so
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
But
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
can
do
that.
C
This
is
a
really
complicated
issue.
It's
you
know
it's
a
number
of
positions
and
on
some
level
each
of
those
positions
is
a
separate
question.
So
I'll
do
my
best
to
provide
some
direction.
First,
I
think
there's
ambivalence,
there's
you
know,
there's
I
think
abroad
recognition.
These
are
important
positions
and
I
think
of
a
discomfort
around
the
long-term
obligation.
C
That
filling
them
would
would
impose
on
the
on
the
city.
What
I
heard,
I
think-
and
I
really
just
you
know-
want
to
acknowledge
on
from
the
jump
I
may
have
maybe
getting
this
wrong,
but
what
I
heard
from
the
what
I
think
I
heard
was
that
the
positions
that
are
required
to
make
crown
function
are
critical,
and
I
think
I
heard
that
the
community
development
positions
are
critical.
C
And
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
there
was
consensus
that
it's
only
those
or
that
it's
definitely
those
or
anything,
but
I
think,
there's
a
sense
of
like
we
want
to
do
this.
But
we
want
to
be
cautious
about
the
timing
of
the
rollout
and
the
identification
of
a
revenue
source
to
fund
these
things
over
the
long
term,
and
those
are
two
priorities
that
I
I
at
least
heard
as
kind
of
high
up
on
that
list.
Is
that
folks,
please
jump
in.
AD
AH
It
well,
that's,
that's,
I
think
what
jonathan
and
I
were
pointing
out.
We
either
raise
taxes
or
find
another
revenue
source.
Another
revenue
source
has
not
been
identified,
so
what
I
said
is
we're
if
we
feel
like
we
need
to
hire
these
folks
and
we
hire
and
tell
them
what's
for
a
year,
because
that's
what
we
can
commit
to
in
funding
unless
we're
all
willing
to
say
you
know
we're
going
to
be
super
creative
with
some
kind
of
magical
funding
or
we're
going
to
raise
taxes,
which
I
seems
like
people
don't
want
to
do.
AH
I
mean,
I
know,
that's
not
ideal
way
to
hire
folk,
but
that
that's
the
honest
truth
of
it
is.
We
have
enough
money
to
pay
you
for
a
year.
D
I
think
I
I
I've
asked
again:
I've
asked
staff
to
look
at
our
our
current
revenue
and
ways
to
increase
revenue.
We
will
be
looking
at
some
of
those
proposals
coming
up
at
the
next
city
council
meeting.
We
have
it.
I
can
pretty
much
guarantee
from
community
development
if
they've
got
people
to
work,
the
permit
desk,
that's
more
permits
being
processed,
that's
more
revenue
coming
in
hand
and
some
of
these
other
positions.
D
You
know
it's
hard
to
say
because
with
increased
staff,
at
crown,
where
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
an
efficiency
savings
as
well
we're
not
spending
time
fixing
things
that
are
broken
that
have
been
left
or
neglected.
You
know
we're
maintaining
their
buildings
and
also
we're
providing
superior
programming
for
our
children
and
our
community,
and
you
know:
there's
there's
an
efficiency
cost
to
that
and
there's
a
policy
good
policy
behind
that.
So
you
know,
will
you
have
to
raise
taxes
next
year,
regardless
of
of
these
positions?
R
D
R
Yes,
and
we
would
not
be
able
to
put
forward
these
increases,
so
I
mean
arpa
part
of
arpa
is
to
go
towards
revenue
loss.
We
are
still
experiencing
revenue
loss,
the
advantage
too,
on
how
we're
playing
out
some
of
this
is.
If
revenues
do
come
in
higher
next
year,
if
they
come
in
higher
this
year,
we
have
more
fund
balance
that
we
can
use
if
they
come
in
higher
next
year,
we
use
less
anarcho,
we
use
less
in
fund
balance.
Z
So,
just
to
reiterate,
I
think,
we're
all
sort
of
shooting
in
the
dark
a
little
bit
here.
I
think
when
we
get
that
projection
like
with
this,
although
even
this
evening,
I
think
we
found
like
between
the
crossing
guards
potentially
having
a
lag
pay
line
item.
Maybe
using
the
maintenance
fund,
I
mean
already
we're
looking
at,
you
know
close
to
two
million,
but
I
think
if
we
saw
minus
that,
but
just
on
this,
what
this
would
mean
for
for
residents
in
years,
two
three
four
five.
I
think,
then
we
can
say
well
wow.
Z
C
C
This
brings
us
to
sp2
where
item
a
is
another
discussion
and
the
rest
are
proposed
individual
expenditures.
So
what
I
want
to
request
is
a
motion
just
simply
on
sb2a,
to
allow
us
to
open
the
discussion.
C
C
Okay,
council
member
braithwaite
moves
that
we
discuss
item
sp2,
a
council
member
when
seconds
we've
we've
had
very
very
useful
conversations
about
the
american
rescue
plan
act.
Funding
in
the
past
and
we've
also
had
a
awful
lot
of
input
that
was
kind
of
collated
and
spearheaded
by
the
evanston
community
foundation
that
they
helped
us
put
together
a
number
of
town
hall
meetings,
as
well
as
a
large
number
of
roundtables
with
stakeholders
and
just
recently
sent
over
a
final
final
report.
C
That's
based
off
of
that
process
and
with
us
this
evening
I
believe,
is
saul
anderson,
the
ceo
of
the
epson
community
foundation,
to
give
a
a
quick
sort
of
update
on
the
outcome
of
that
process.
AK
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
biss,
members
of
the
council,
clerk
mendoza
and
manager
kandersky.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
having
me
and
also
want
to
send
a
thank
you
to
all
of
the
city
staff
and
others
who
participated
in
these.
Many
many
conversations,
I
believe
in
total
we
had
north
of
25
hours
of
conversations
around
are
leveraging
the
opera
funds
and
how
to
best
how
many
of
our
community
members
felt
that
those
funds
would
be
best
leveraged
in
community.
AK
I
did
send
an
email
to
the
council
earlier
today,
sort
of
summarizing
things
just
so
you
know
you
all
have
have
these
notes,
but
I
just
wanted
to
and
highlight
a
couple
of
things
that
we
heard
during
these
processes
to
you
know
to
just
sort
of
to
give
a
summary
of
community
input.
I
know
the
report
is
pretty
long
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
there.
AK
So
you
know
a
couple
of
key
things
that
we
heard
during
the
conversation
were
first,
that
community
wanted
a
lot
of
transparency
and
a
lot
of
conversation.
I
know
that
you
know,
council
is
entered
into
many
conversations
and
had
those,
so
that
is
happening,
but
a
lot
of
transparency
to
determine
the
allocation
of
funds,
and
I
think
the
community
members
really
felt
like
this
was
an
opportunity
for
some
cross-sector
creative
approaches
to
community
challenges.
AK
So
one
of
the
sort
of
themes
that
people
talked
about
was
thinking
about
ways
that
you
could
partner
across
you
know,
budget
lines
and
have
public
private
civic
sector
and
non-profits
all
coming
together
to
build
collaborative
solutions.
AK
You
know,
rather
than
you
know
some
things
that
will
certainly
have
to
be
rfp
processes
for
sure,
but
rather
than
thinking
about
it
as
exclusively
rfp
processes.
Thinking
about
ways
that
groups
of
community
could
come
together.
AK
Some
of
the
highlights
that
we
heard
in
terms
of
the
criteria
that
the
community
wanted
to
see
were
the
the
centering
of
community
voice,
promoting
equity
and
really
having
community
involved
in
some
of
the
selection
processes
and,
as
folks
have
talked
about
on
the
council
today.
Thinking
about
the
budget
really
demonstrating
project
sustainability
and
just
making
sure
again
that
this
is
really
about
a
positive
impact
on
employment.
The
city's
economy
and
and
making
sure
that
the
the
funds
are
used
strategically
in
a
way
that's
going
to
really
be
sustainable
over
time.
AK
So
a
couple
of
the
you
know
the
points
that
that
came
out
in
terms
of
top
program
needs
the
community
expressed
were
just
me
first
of
all,
and
some
of
these
have
come
up
already,
but
the
top
four
areas
that
really
stood
out
as
foundational
were
housing,
child
care,
investment
in
black
and
latinx
communities
and
mental
health
and
trauma.
So
those
came
up
really
across
all
of
the
different
conversation
areas
that
we
had.
AK
Some
of
those
have
come
up
in
conversation
today,
and
you
know
those
were
the
needs
that
really,
regardless
of
the
groups
that
we
brought
together
and
and
roundtables,
were
things
that
really
people
really
felt
were
foundational.
Try
to
leverage
these
these
funds-
and
you
know
we
did
have
conversations
not
just
with
nonprofits
and
community
members,
but
also
with
small
business
leaders,
and
things
like
that,
and
all
of
this
really
came-
came
to
the
forefront
regardless
of
those
conversations
and
who
we
were
having
those
conversations
with.
AK
So
we
just
feel
like
those
are
really
important
things
that
are
great
to
express-
and
you
know
certainly
again
just
want
to
highlight
the
community.
You
know,
as
certainly
is,
is
always
the
theme
in
evanston.
We
have
a
really
involved
community,
an
engaged
community
and
they
want
to
find
real
ways
to
be
engaged
in
this
process
as
well.
You
know
if
it's
about
working
through
existing
boards
and
commissions,
finding
new
ways
to
bring
those
meetings
to
people
and
bring
the
information
to
those
and
those
meetings
to
people.
AK
You
know
we
found
great
success
with
doing
some
of
these
meetings
in
spanish
to
make
those
more
accessible.
So
if
those
those
sort
of
traditional
boards
and
committees
are
going
to
be
the
way
where
a
lot
of
these,
this
information
is
hashed
out.
I
think
well,
they're,
certainly
open
thinking
about
new
ways
to
make
them
accessible
to
community
members
will
be
very
important
and
if
there
are
other
mechanisms
to
bring
community
voice
into
the
process
and
have
folks
really
be,
you
know,
engaged
in
a
deeper
level.
AK
The
community
is
certainly
open
to
that,
and
you
know
I
want
to
offer
as
a
in
partnership
the
community
foundation.
We
are
certainly
ready
and
willing
to
continue
to
partner
with
the
city
of
evanston
to
help
bring
community
voice
together
throughout
this
process.
As
you
know,
really
the
highlights
I
wanted
to
bring
bring
to
this
meeting
and
I'm
happy
to
you
know
throughout
the
conversation
this
conversation
here
just
to
stay
on.
G
You
said
the
top
three
things
that
you
heard
you
said
them
real
fast
and
I
just
want
to.
V
AK
G
AK
G
AK
Certainly
so
the
first
was
housing,
not
a
new
topic,
but
just
to
address,
affordable
housing,
homelessness,
affordable
rentals
and
supportive
housing
was
a
really
fundamental
thing
that
people
talked
about
also
child
care,
I'm
so
thinking
about
as
families
think
about
how
to
return
to
work
and
and
finding
jobs
in
a
post-pandemic
era.
Really
thinking
about
how
they
their
children
are
cared
for
during
that
time
is,
is
really
important
to
helping
the
sort
of
community
continue
to
thrive.
Economic
continued
to
thrive
economically.
AK
There
was
also
discussion
about
investment
in
black
and
latinx
communities,
so
every
roundtable
group
talked
about
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
as
being
a
core
value
to
evanston,
and
certainly
we
saw
during
the
pandemic
how
black
and
brown
communities
were
hit
the
hardest,
and
so
people
wanted
to
see
intentional
reinvestment
in
those
communities
to
bring
not
only
to
sort
of
support
those
communities
but
start
the
work
of
equity
and
bringing
communities.
AK
We
all
know
many
people
are
dealing
with
stress
and
anxiety
and-
and
you
know,
experience
trauma
during
you
know
the
circumstances
we've
been
living
in
and
there
are
a
lot
of
services
we
also
you
know
there
are
services
available,
certainly
for
mental
health,
although,
as
you
know,
many
people
mentioned
they're,
not
always
as
accessible
but
there's
a
particular
gap
within
that
issue.
Area
for
young
people,
children
who
needed
mental
health
supports
an
issue
altogether
with,
but
another
gap
for
children
as
well.
Yep.
AK
Yeah
across
the
round
tables
and
the
town
halls
we
had
over
500
residents,
and
then
we
also
had
residents
and
and
folks
who
work
for
community
organizations.
Many
of
them
were
residents
as
well
to
be
sure,
and
then
we
had
another
65
to
70
eths
student
surveys
that
that
we,
that
are
part
of
this
feedback
as
well.
Thank.
G
AK
C
Are
there
any
further
questions
from
mr
anderson
senator?
I
just
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
time
and
attention
and
care
and,
frankly
the
push
that
the
community
foundation
has
provided.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
sitting
in
all
those
roundtables
and
learned
a
lot
and
also
really
appreciated
the
the
discussion.
C
I
think
the
report
that
you've
sent
is
is
a
really
helpful
start
and
I'm
mindful
of
the
point
that
you're
bringing
us
tonight
that
implicit
in
all
this
is
a
commitment
to
continue
engaging
the
community
in
the
process
of
establishing
clear
priorities,
a
clear
priorities
and
a
clear
plan
pursuant
to
which
we
can
then
make
these
decisions,
and
I
I
I
just
I
personally
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
that
promise
that
when
we
spend
dollars
we're
doing
it
because
we
have
clarity
about
what
our
priorities
are.
C
You
know,
I
see
this
really
really
frankly
inspiring
list
of
proposals
on
our
agenda
for
later
this
evening
I
mean,
frankly,
I
want
to
say
it.
I
think
those
are
all
things
that
I
personally
support,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
them
as
a
part
of
a
plan
that
we've
established
in
partnership
with
the
community
that
leaves
complete
transparency
again
about
what
our
priorities
are.
And
why-
and
I
I
hope,
that's
a
value
system
that
we
can.
C
We
can
maintain
because
I
think
it'll
both
give
us
a
better
product
and
also
significantly
enhance
community
trust
during
the
course
of
this
process.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
the
role
that
you
personally
and
the
foundation
have
played
in
moving
us
in
that
direction.
AK
Absolutely,
and
if
I
may,
just
one
last
second,
I
want
to
you
know
again
reiterate
that
the
foundation
is
here
to
partner
and
also
say
if,
if
members
of
the
council
have
other
questions
or
want
to
have
deeper
conversations,
our
team
is
certainly
available
for
those
as
well
me
in
particular,
I'm
ready,
willing
and
able
to
have
those
conversations
about
how
we
can
partner
together
to
to
to
do
that,
to
engage
in
that
process.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
about
sb2a,
just
let's
begin
with
council
member
rebel.
AA
Well,
I
too
would
like
to
echo
the
mayor's
thanks
for
the
to
the
community
foundation.
For
this.
You
know
really
leadership
role
you
played
in
in
bringing
so
many
members
of
the
community
together
to
talk
about
these
issues
with
us,
and
it's
not
just
the
sheer
number
of
residents,
but
these
were
a
lot
of
voices
that
we
don't
normally
hear
from
here
at
city
council.
AA
So
I
think
that
makes
it
extra
special,
valuable
input
I
want
to
just
so
I'm
looking
at
the
page
of
cross
sector
themes
and
saul
mentioned
numbers,
one
two,
three
and
four
number
five
is
something
we've
not
talked
about
at
all,
and
yet
it's
one
of
the
issues
that's
specifically
mentioned
in
arpa
guidelines
and
that's
the
whole
idea
of
broadband
and
the
digital
divide.
AA
And
so
I
guess
I'm
asking
whether
staff
and
I
don't
know
we
have
any
of
the
right
staff
here
to
maybe
our
interim
city
manager
can
answer.
The
question
has
has
staffed
on
any
conversation
about
what
we
might
do
for
expanding.
AA
You
know
addressing
the
digital
divide,
expanding
broadband
and
not
only
I
know
we
heard
a
lot
about
the
digital
divide,
issues
in
terms
of
school
children
being
able
to
do
their
school
work,
but
I'm
hearing
from
senior
citizens
who
really
feel
the
need,
for
you,
know
greater
support
in
terms
of
access
to
broadband.
D
Yes,
I'm
going
to
call
on
sarah
flax,
it's
been
a
discussion,
we've
had
quite
a
bit.
She
and
I
okay.
AL
Good
evening,
council,
members,
mayor
and
city
clerk
and
the
thing
that
we're
dealing
with
with
this
broadband
infrastructure
is
not
really
what
our
issue
here
is
in
evanston.
Our
issue
is
getting
people
the
to
be
able
to
pay
for
broadband
that
is
available.
The
infrastructure
part
of
broadband
is
very
clearly
defined.
It
tells
you
exactly
how
many
megabytes
and
you
have
to
have
it.
Upload
speeds
and
download
speeds
if
you
are
creating
a
network
and
we
have
network
providers
in
our
community
that
really
reach
all
parts
of
our
community.
AL
It's
the
question
of
whether
people
have
the
ability
to
pay
that
isn't
considered
broadband
access
that
goes
under
services
in
in
in
arpa's
funding.
So
it's
our
the
the
broadband
infrastructure
is
for
places
that
literally
do
not
have
broadband
service
at
all
rural
areas
and
some
parts
of
some
large
cities
where
there
aren't
broadband
providers
that
have
invested
in
it
because
there's
no
money
there
for
them.
AL
So,
if
we're
really
not
where
we
would
be
putting
money,
if
we
put
it
against
giving
people
access
would
be
in
a
service
category
and
it
would
have
to
fall
under
to
addressing
and
it
could
their
health
or
their
economic
well-being,
because
those
broadband
contributes
to
those
things
or
digital
access
contributes
to
those
things
so
much.
But
does
that
make
clear
what
they're.
AA
AA
Some
places
there
you,
you
know,
there's
free
wi-fi,
I
mean
just
you
know,
like
wi-fi
at
fountain
square
or
right.
J
AL
AL
AL
AA
AH
Yeah,
so,
just
speaking
on
the
memo,
that's
in
this
packet
here
for
the
item
you
know
I
will
get
to
this
one
later,
but
I
guess
I
still
just
one
for
the
record
and
have
some
frustrations
with
the
allocation
of
seven
million
for
economic
development
and
four
hundred
I
mean
seven
million
for
economic
development
and
four
million
for
social
services,
and
I
know
there
was
a
conversation
before
about
not
under
you,
ms
kandersky,
but
about
social
service
funding,
and
I
know
we
did
some
early
human
services
but
being
available
at
other
places
and
our
staff
being
able
to
to
help
our
nonprofits
access
that
funding.
AH
But
you
know
really
all
of
the
public
comment
we've
had
tonight
has
been
from
our
social
service
community
and
we've
talked
about.
You
know.
We've
talked
about
having
this
transparent,
open
process,
but
you
know
we
we
still
haven't
allocated
more
money
to
that.
Maybe
that's
just
me
beating
a
dead
horse,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
about
my
concerns
there
as
well
as
that
we,
which
I
made
the
motion
for
the
700
000
for
guaranteed
income.
AH
I
am
not
sure
whose
decision
that
was
to
put
under
social
services
versus
putting
that
under
like
equitable
and
inclusive
recovery,
but
I
would
also
that
that
was
not
the
right
place
to
take
that
allocation
from
so
this.
This
document
is
a
bit
more
helpful
as
we
continue
to
talk
about
how
we
can
spend
the
arpa
funding.
AH
I
guess
I
would
love
for
us
as
a
council
on
you
know
not
tonight,
but
I
don't
know
when
we
can
do
it
to
kind
of
prioritize
what
we,
what
we
think
is
important.
I
mean
we
all
talk
about
mental
health
and
I
know
we
gave
an
update
in
the
last
committee
about
the
living
room
situation,
and
so
those
kind
of
things
will
be
coming
back
to
us,
but
you
know,
I
think,
a
million
dollars
here,
a
million
dollars.
AH
There
doesn't
seem
like
very
much
but
as
I'm
trying
to
explain
to
my
residents
who
have
needs
who
we
have
not
yet
yet
addressed,
it's
getting
a
little
bit
difficult
because
we
as
a
council
haven't
kind
of
prioritized
what
the
needs
are.
So
the
you
know,
community
foundation
has
done
a
great
job,
but
I
think
we
we
have
to
take
some
ownership
here
and
you
know
give
staff
some
direction.
AH
Give
the
community
some
direction
in
terms
of
what
the
priorities
are
because
tonight,
if
people
are
paying
attention
to
watching
this
agenda,
they
see
proposals
for
health
response,
which,
probably
everybody
would
say,
is-
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
arpa
funding
being
the
lowest
thing.
The
lowest
dollar
amount
on
the
agenda
tonight
and
obviously
under
well.
I
guess
it's
the
second
lowest
or
maybe
the
third
list,
but
understanding
this
is
not
all
of
the
harper
funding,
but
but
also
there's
nowhere
on
here.
AH
You
know
what's
a
valid
ask
and
what's
not,
but
just
that
I
would
hope
we're
going
to
balance
some
of
the
economic
development
ask
with
some
social
service.
Ask
or
some
social
service
provisions-
and
I
know
kelly's
working
on
that
some
offline.
But
just
I
would
love
for
us
to
have
kind
of
a
more
cohesive
plan
as
a
counselor
that
we
can
communicate
to
the
citizens
and
to
the
staff
so
that
they're
not
bringing
things
up.
AH
C
Thank
you
and
sorry,
I'm
talking
too
much
tonight.
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
councilmember
fleming
put
far
more
clearly
what
I
was
trying
to
say
in
my
comments.
I
think
the
reason
that
residents
might
not
know
what
our
priorities
are
is
because
we
haven't
decided
it's
not
we
don't.
We
haven't,
decided
and
kept
it
a
secret.
We
I
think
we
still
haven't
completed
that
process
and
it's
an
important
process.
Councilmember
kelly,
followed
by
burns.
Z
So
yeah
just
to
reiterate
the
need
to
to
clarify
our
priorities-
and
I
know
I
mean
some.
Other
cities
like
chicago
have
a
whole
arpa
recovery
plan
where
they
identify
that
I
would.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
develop
an
arpa
recovery
plan
too,
so
that
residents
could
look
at
and
see
how
we
decided
to
allocate
funds.
I
also
the
one
also.
I
think
we
have
until
the
end
of
24
right
for
for
the
expenditure
of
these.
So
I
think
we
so
keeping
that
in
mind.
Z
We
don't
have
to
blow
through
it
all
right
now
and
we
also.
I
also
said
this
43
million
dollars,
which
is
distorting
our
budget,
which
is
great,
but
also
we
did
really
well
in
the
pension
market,
with
our
investment
and
basically
came
out
11
million
ahead,
which
is
also
going
to
distort
things
in
terms
of
you
know,
we're
not
putting
that
right
back
into
our
pensions.
So
I
think
we
have
to
keep
that
11
million
dollars.
Also,
that's
not
going
to
happen
again,
probably
in
the
years
to
come.
Z
So
that's
another
reason
why
it's
so
so
so
essential
that
we
get
that
that
we
get
that
projection
for
three
years.
Thank
you.
AD
Yeah,
I
think
in
some
ways
something
that
I
requested,
which
is
projects
to
come
forward.
It
might
have
confused
things
all
I
wanted
projects
to
come
forward.
It
really
is
to
help
us
better
understand
what
our
priorities
are.
I
think
we
need
to
understand
our
priorities.
Hopefully
tonight
we
can
decide
what,
by
what
process
is
this
body
going
to
determine
its
priorities?
I
think
that
is
really
important.
Is
it
going
to
be
child
care?
AD
Is
it
going
to
be
jobs
like
what
are
we
doing
here
and
because
I
I
don't
it's
just
we're
we're
a
little
bit
into
this,
and
I
still
don't
have
a
firm
idea
of
of
how
we're
thinking
about
this
and
because
of
it
you
know,
I
think,
priorities
figuring
out
how
we're
going
to
make
that
determination.
AD
I
think
hazard
pay
is
something
that
we
might
be
able
to
move
on.
If
we're
looking
for
things
to
move
on
quickly,
we
have
a
couple
requests
here
for
planning
like
we
should
do
planning
first
before
we
allocate
the
funds.
So
if
we
can
take
a
vote
on
what
planning,
where
we're
willing
to
to
proceed
with,
that
would
be
a
good
start,
and
then
I've
said
this
before
pb
participatory
budgeting.
AD
That
is
something
that
we're
going
to
have
total
hands
off
of,
and
so
it
would
be
great
to
get
that
going
and
I
think,
even
through
that
community
process,
will
it's
it's
a
it's
community
input
it's
feedback
and
really
a
better
way.
AD
Instead
of
just
you
know,
organizing
meetings
and
having
this
you
know,
community
members,
the
same
community
members
in
many
cases
tell
us
things
that
we've
already
heard
before,
like
give
them
2.5
million
to
actually
determine
how
that
those
funds
are
allocated,
and
I
think
we'll
get
a
lot
more
information
back
of
what
the
community
wants
us
to
prioritize
up
here.
Doing
pb
a
participatory
budgeting
process
compared
to
more
and
more
community
meetings.
So
I
think
hopefully,
today
again
we
can
decide
as
a
council.
AD
How
are
we
going
to
determine
what
our
priorities
are
as
a
council?
Do
we
want
to
get
hazard
pay
moving?
Do
we
want
to
get
pb
moving?
Can
we
at
least
vote
on
which
plans
today
that
we
want
to
to
to
move
forward?
We
have
the
business
district
market
study,
implementation
plan
and
some
other
things
that
staff
has
requested
from
us,
but
I
think
just
knowing,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
start
off
with
today,
that
that's
that's
an
easy
decision
for
us
to
make.
I
think
we
should
focus
on
those
things.
B
I
will
echo
that
I
also
want
to
have
a
check
in
on.
Have
we
yet
created?
I
haven't
seen
it
the
web
page,
the
dedicated
web
page
that
goes
over
all
of
the
operating
expenditures.
D
I
believe
the
page
has
been
created.
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
updated
as
a
recent.
It
has
kate's
shaking
no
kate's
saying
no
has
not
been
updated
yet.
B
Okay,
and
can
I
just
get
a
check
after
at
the
conclusion
of
this
evening,
assuming
we
were
this
council
were
to
adopt
everything
that
is
on
the
agenda
tonight?
What
would
the
total
arpa
spend
to
be
this
year.
D
D
D
D
I
think,
if
we're
looking
at
this
agenda
tonight,
if
this
helps
you
at
all,
I
think
it's
really
critical
to
provide
funding
for
the
health
response
to
continue
the
contact
tracing
and,
in
my
mind,
as
a
from
a
management
perspective.
It's
really
critical
that
we
have
someone
at
the
helm.
That's
looking
at
the
compliance
issues
of
all
of
this
because
we
can
vote
on
or
we
can.
D
The
council
can
vote
and
decide
to
spend
the
funds
as
it
wishes,
but
if
it's
not
in
compliance
with
arpa
or
or
if
it's
not
if
it's
something
that
might
be
covered
in
another
area
of
funding,
we
need
someone
at
the
helm
to
really
look
at
that
to
ensure
that
we're
maximizing
what
the
funds
are
used
for.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
N
B
Y
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
will
reiterate
my
previous
concern
about
carp,
implementation,
climate
action,
environmental
justice,
kind
of
getting
lost
in
the
wash
here,
so
I
personally
would
feel
better
if
we
had
another
specific
line
for
those
topics.
Y
If,
ultimately,
that
is
not
the
case,
we'll
just
have
to
make
sure
we
keep
an
eye
on
it
and
make
sure
we're
funded
funding
those
activities
in
one
of
these
other
buckets
here,
but
I
do
think
a
deliverable
that
I
would
like
to
leave
tonight
with
is
ideally
finalizing
our
allocations
amongst
these
now
11
buckets
as
we're
looking
at
page
two
and
three
of
our
memo
here.
Y
That's
what
I've
been
looking
for
all
along,
let's
put
a
pin
in
that
portion
of
the
conversation
and
move
on,
so
I
would
at
least
speaking
for
myself
be
open
to
some
discussions
on
that
high
level
of
you
know.
Do
we
want
to
move
some
money
from
one
of
these
11
buckets
to
another
one?
Y
I
am
relatively
comfortable
with
with
how
they
are
now
with
the
exception
of,
and
I
wish
there
was
a
12th
bucket
for
for
climate
action
and
I'm
not
comfortable
ex
approving
any
additional
expenses
until
we
have
that
exercise
completed.
Certainly
no
external
expenses,
if
it's
revenue
loss
funding
that
we're
you
know
we're
going
to
use
for
internal
city
of
evanston
purposes.
Y
Maybe
maybe
we
can
approve
that
tonight,
but
the
economic
development
and
we'll
talk
about
this
separately.
When
we
get
to
this
budget
item,
I
don't
feel
comfortable
taking
economic
development
projects
on
a
first
come
first
serve
basis.
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
whole
menu
of
options
looks
like
before
we
decide
how
we're
going
to
spend
that
money.
Y
AB
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
so
I
have.
I
have
two
points
that
I
think
we
should
that,
in
my
opinion,
we
should
move
on
tonight.
First,
I'm
going
to
jump
ahead
to
sp2
subsection
b,
which
is
the
arpa
approval
of
approval
of
575
thousand
dollars
and
funding
to
sustain
the
public
health
response
to
covet
19
in
2022,
as
we
all
know
we're
this
isn't
over,
and
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
fund
our
health
department.
AB
I
think
they
I
never
knew
what
contact
tracing
was
until
coven
and
then
lo
and
behold
our
health
department
had
contact
tracing
all
along
they'd
already
they
had
it
in
place
for
other
things
so,
and
I
think
most
people
in
evanston
feel
very
strongly
that
our
health
department
was
second
to
none
during
this
covet
process.
So
I
would
like
to
approve
that
tonight
and
then,
if
I
may,
mr
mayor
I'd
like
to-
and
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
with
respect
to
that,
but
I
also
want
to
talk.
I.
AB
Because
there's
some
yeah,
so
I
I
do
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
approved.
We
don't
want
to
have
any
interruption
in
our
in
the
work
of
our
health
department,
and
that
is
something
that
the
arpa
money
is
definitely
that
we
received
our
money
to
to
to
apply
it
to.
The
second
issue
that
I
want
to
talk
about
is
sp2
subsection
c.
This
is
approval
of
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
funding
for
grant
management,
compliance
and
reporting.
AB
AB
43
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
for
any
any
entity.
Any
city
to
to
manage
all
of
our
staff
is
very
busy
managing
all
of
the
money
that
they
currently
have.
AB
So
this
is.
This
is
a
standard
thing
that
we
do
and
43
million
dollars.
We
need
to
make
sure
we
report
on
it.
I'm
sure
that
there
are
endless
numbers
of
things
that
the
federal
government
is
asking
us
to
do,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
start
the
process
of
of
hiring
some
either.
AB
AB
AB
I
do
think
we
should
move
forward
with
the
575
for
the
public
health
response
and
I
do
think
we
all
need
to
recognize
that
that
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
every
single
dollar
of
it
is
is
well
spent
when
we
know-
and
we
have
done
this
all
the
time
I
mean
so-
that
that
may
seem
like
a
large
number,
we
just
received
a
very
large
amount
of
money
from
the
from
the
federal
government.
AB
C
Thank
you,
and
just
for
reference.
Your
time
is
up.
Mr
desai,
did
you
have
a
reply
to
council
member
reed's
question.
V
Good
evening
mayors,
members
of
the
city
council,
so
we
have
been
awarded
43.1
million,
we
have
received
half
of
that
amount.
The
city
council
has
already
approved
five
and
a
half
million
dollar
in
our
power
funding
in
four
different
items.
V
Now,
what
do
you
see
in
the
memo
is
towards
the
bottom
total
committed
7.19
million,
which
includes
the
three
items
which
are
proposed
right
now
on
the
discussion.
One
of
them
is
the
million
dollar
for
the
ox
project,
440
000
for
ringtone
in
chicago
evan
streetscape
and
the
other
250
000
for
outdoor
dining.
So
if
you
add
those
amount
of
1
million,
690
thousand
to
the
five
million
five
and
a
half
million,
which
is
already
been
approved
by
the
city
council,
the
amount
comes
to
seven
million.
One
hundred
ninety
thousand.
C
V
C
V
And
so
three
items
right
there
yeah
then
the
next
is
the
oxford.
That's
a
million
dollar
ringtone
is
440
city
council
consideration,
eleven
one
which
is
tonight
and
then
the
outdoor
dining
250.
C
B
Thank
you.
Go
ahead,
council,
member!
Oh
no!
No
thank
you!
Our
mathematician
mayor
and
so
my
point.
There
is
with
that
full
dollar
amount
that
you
know,
8.5
million,
that
represents
roughly
you
know
again.
The
math
looks
better
than
I
what
45
of
this
year's
the
money
that
we've
received
thus
far.
B
You
know
45
45
somewhere
around
there,
and
you
know
that's
that's
quite
a
bit
of
money
to
have
allocated
before
we've,
even
as
thompson,
brunusma
and
others
mentioned
today,
we've
even
fully
locked
in
all
of
our
you
know
our
11
or
12.
You
know,
however,
many
buckets
that
that
we
we
have
so
I
just
want
to
you
know,
put
a
you
know,
caution
on
that
and
I
really
would
love
to
see
that
arpa
tracking
page
get
fully
operational
fairly
soon.
B
There
was
a
commitment
that
we
almost
surely
adopted
in
a
formal
manner,
early
on
or
certainly
there's
a
you
know,
strong
seeming
consensus
of
the
council
that
that's
something
that
we
wanted.
So
I'd
love
to
see
that
operational
and
I'd
love
to
see.
Where
else
you
know,
who
else
is
hiring,
you
know
our
other
municipalities
of
our
size,
hiring.
B
You
know,
consultants
at
this
or
or
compliance
officers.
I'm
sorry.
The
correct
term
at
this
rate
is
that
is
that
being
done
in
other
municipalities,
and
if
not
you
know
who
is
you
know
what
levels
they're
doing
that
and
what
dollar
amounts
do
they
did
they
receive
an
arpa?
B
In
fact,
do
we
do
we
know
that
off
offhand,
hud,
tashor
or
others?
Are
there?
Other
municipalities
such
as
you
know,
oak
park,
skokie
well,
matt.
V
Good
evening,
yes,
I
mean,
as
far
as
the
900
000
numbers
look
big.
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
cpa
firms
and
obviously
they
said
the
fees
could
range
from
two
and
a
half
to
three
and
a
half
to
even
four
percent
if
you're
more
sub
recipients,
because
some
recipients
are
subject
to
the
same
restriction
as
a
recipient.
You
know-
and
so
obviously,
when
we
calculated
that
feed
it
turn
out
to
be
more
than
one
million
council
members
read
to
your
question.
V
I
got
a
call
from
my
peer
at
oak
park
and
say:
okay,
what
are
you
doing?
Because
I
think
he
talked
to
the
one
of
the
cpa
firm
and
he
said
this
is
too
much
of
a
feast
because
they
got
kind
of
same
amount
as
evanston,
and
we
told
him
finally
that
yeah
we
might
go
the
internal
staffing
route,
which
might
be
a
lot
more
cost
effective
than
going
to
the
outside
cpa
firm.
C
Thank
you,
so
I
think
no
one
else
is
seeking
recognition.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
different
things,
so
I
want
to
sort
of
enumerate
some
options.
Obviously,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
items
on
our
agenda.
We
could
simply
entertain
motions
on
them,
one
at
a
time
and
and
see
if
they
rise
or
fall.
I
will
say
I
heard
a
lot
of
support
and
principle
for
some
of
the
items
on
the
agenda,
but
some
discomfort
voting.
C
Yet
for
some
of
them
and-
and
you
know,
council
member
wayne
enumerated
a
few
specifically
items
sp2b
and
c
that
she
felt
we
ought
to
vote
on
now
and
that
the
others
we
ought
to
wait.
And
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
shared
view,
but
so
one
option
is
just
to
vote
on
everything,
because
here
they
are
in
the
agenda,
we
can
make
motions
and
vote.
C
So
we're
then
in
a
position,
perhaps
to
start
voting
for
things
like
this
and
then
council
member
newsman
talked
about
tonight
wanting
to
reach
agreement
on
the
11
buckets.
So
that's
a
lot
of
different
things
we
could
do
so.
I
want
to
call
in
order
on
council
member
braithwaite,
followed
by
ravel,
to
weigh
into
this
question.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
it
was
my
anticipation
coming
into
this
meeting,
that
it
would
be
a
late
night
and
that
we
would
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
each
item
and
because
it
sounds
like
we
are
changing
up
the
format.
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
speak
to
item
d,
that
is
on
the
agenda,
and
my
reason
for
that
is
because
we
have
three
members
of
the
organization
that's
with
us
tonight.
G
It
has
gone
through
our
community,
our
economic
development
workflow,
starting
with
a
discussion,
and
then
it
was
voted
out
of
economic
development.
So
at
the
very
least,
I
do
want
to
carve
out
some
time
for,
for
that
conversation
out
of
respect
for
the
people
that
are
here
this
evening
as
well.
The
support
that
they've
received
in
the
community.
Thank
you.
C
Great.
Thank
you
for
that
council
member
revell.
AA
Well,
I
agree
with
council
member
wynn
about
the
two
issues
that
that
I
feel
prepared
to
vote
on
tonight,
the
colon
response
funding
and
the
compliance
with
our
our
guidelines.
Those
are
really
two
very
important
things
and
but
then
I
also
agree
with
council
member
nusma
about
I.
I
have,
I
feel
more
comfortable
making
additional
decisions
once
I
kind
of
once.
AA
I
really
know
how
big
each
bucket's
going
to
be
and
and
what
are
in
economic
development
development,
for
example,
what
other
big
ticket
items
are
going
to
be
proposed
for
that
bucket,
and
you
know,
is
that-
is
that
bucket
too
big
or
not
big
enough?
I'd
like
a
little
more
understanding
about
the
social
services
bucket
is
that
is
that
adequate
or
not?
We
haven't,
talked
about
the
inclusive
and
equitable
recovery
bucket
at
all.
AA
So
I
I'd
I'd
feel
much
more
comfortable
if
we
had
a
clearer
idea
of
I'm,
I'm
very
happy
to
talk
this
evening
about
the
ox
proposal,
and-
and
you
know
we
can
get
a
general
sense
from
the
council
about
how
people
feel,
but
I'd
rather
put
off
that
actual
voting
on
each
of
those
things.
Until
we
have
a
better
sense
of
the
the
overall
bucket
picture,.
C
C
You
know
the
peop,
the
the
the
folks
who
are
here
on
behalf
of
the
ox
have
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
it's
10
15
at
night.
Let's
skip
items
b
and
c
and
move
directly
to
item
item
d.
We
appreciate
your
patience
and
I
know
10
15
is
a
lot
worse
than
you
know:
7
15,
but
hopefully
it's
a
little
better
than
10
45..
G
C
G
G
Sure
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
I'm
glad
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you
all
for
for
being
here.
G
If
you,
google,
the
washington
post
corporation
or
the
washington
post
corporations
within
the
last
year
of
this
pandemic
and
coming
off
with
george
floyd,
came
together
and
pledged
50
billion
dollars
to
support
black
the
black
community,
so
there
was
definitely
a
change
in
mindset
out
of
that
50
billion
dollar
that
was
pledged.
Please
feel
free
to
look
it
up
as
I'm
going
through
it.
G
Excuse
me:
let
me
start
by
saying,
with
a
change
of
mindset,
with
an
effort
to
leverage
the
million
dollars
of
county
tax
credits,
if
I'm
saying
that
correctly,
an
investment
of
public
dollars
of
a
million
dollars,
and
so
here
we
are
after
going
through
the
process
them
socializing
this
in
our
community.
Developing
support
from
the
rotary
developing
support
from
the
mayor's
task
force
on
businesses
passing
through
economic
development,
with
questions
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
questions.
I've.
G
I've
had
to
field
questions
you
know
leading
into
this
evening,
and
so
have
you,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
those
questions
are
answered.
But
what
I'm
hoping
tonight
is
to
get
a
gauge
of
whether
we
have
or
whether
we're
willing
to
change
our
mindsets,
to
look
at
these
opportunities
that,
but
for
arpa.
That
would
not
happen
and
look
at
these
people
in
the
eyes,
as
well
as
the
public
that
supports
the
organization
and
get
your
questions
answered,
put
them
out.
G
G
I
want
to
thank
sal
anderson
for
the
for
his
comment
and
work,
because
what
he
has
laid
out
in
front
of
us
is
that
he
went
out
and
fight.
You
know
it's
a
sample
of
our
community,
not
everyone,
but
500
people
that
we
would
not
normally
engage
in
out
of
that
out
of
the
top
four
issues
supporting
black
and
brown
businesses,
which
I
think
is
critical,
especially
as
we
move
out.
G
So
I
don't
think
I
need
to
argue
that
what
we
all
have
talked
about
over
the
many
years
of
the
of
the
lack
of
access
for
our
community,
how
we
end
up
at
the
bottom
of
the
list.
That's
not
what
this
conversation
is
about,
but
really
it's
an
opportunity
to
get
behind
what
we've
talked
about
and
provide
support,
and
if
you're,
if
your
dollar
amount
is
in
a
billion
dollars,
then
say
it
to
the
group.
G
I
without
a
doubt
I
can
say:
yes,
that's
a
great
number,
because
there
were
some
people
who
didn't
think
that
we
could
get
to
10
million
dollars
for
reparations
and
if
there
was
ever
a
time
for
us
to
take
a
stand
and
have
this
conversation.
Now
is
the
time,
and
with
that
I
will
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Mr
mayor,
thank
you.
AH
Thank
you.
So
I
will
start
off
by
saying
I
cannot
vote
on
this
because
I'm
related
to
one
of
the
owners,
and
so
I
would
be
happy
to
vote
on
this,
but
given
this
teeny,
tiny
town,
I'm
sure
it's
tomorrow,
someone
would
out
me
and
it's
not
worth
the
ethics
board
if
we
even
have
one.
But
what
I,
what
I
will
say,
regardless
of
my
relationship,
is
why
I
would
support
this.
AH
Some
of
the
things
ottoman
breakaway
said
regarding
you
know
why
african-american
businesses
take
so
long
to
get
started,
is
lack
of
capital.
Lack
of
capital
is
based
on
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
that
have
to
do
with
skin
color
or
not,
will
and-
and
you
know,
intellect
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
do
think
this
is
a
chance
for
us
to.
AH
You
know
kind
of
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
in
a
city
in
which
we
proclaim
to
be
doing
reparations
and
other
things.
This
is
a
very
tangible
effort.
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
questions
and
about
the
the
ownership
and
whether
it's
white
ownership
or
black
ownership.
AH
I
will
let
folks
speak
for
themselves
if
they
have
those
questions,
because
you
know,
I
think
there
was
some
answers
that
were
given
to
us
as
a
council,
but
I
will
just
say:
historically,
you
know,
african-american
people
haven't
had
access
to
capital
and
so
a
lot
of
times
when
businesses
are
started,
they
are
with
loans
or
or
they
are
fronted
by
white
people
who
have
capital.
So
that's
how
my
mother
started
her
first
business.
AH
AH
AH
I
am,
I
think,
as
new
smith
said
concerned
about
things
that
just
kind
of
come
to
us
based
on
you
know,
either
staff
preference
or
who's
the
loudest
person
in
the
room,
and
that
is
definitely
not
a
good
way
to
make
decisions,
particularly
around
this
one-time
funding
source
that
we
have.
I,
I
still
remain
concerned
that
we
have
not
done
enough
in
the
mental
health
space
in
the
homeless
space.
AH
So
hopefully
those
things
are
coming,
but
I
would
say
you
know,
would
not
hold
that
against
this
applicant
because
they
did
go
to
the
system
that
we
told
them
was
the
one
to
do
now,
whether
that
was
right
or
not.
On
our
part,
I
would
question,
but
they
have
done
what
we
told
them
to
do
so.
I
would
either
suggest
that
you
know
folks
are
willing
to
vote
for
this
tonight
or
if
we
hold
that,
and
we
come
up
with
some
other
process.
We'd
have
them
go
through,
but
just
recognizing
that
it's
very
confusing.
B
Point
point
of
information:
my
understanding
is
that
the
applicant
tonight
relating
to
you
know
the
you
know
the
quote-unquote
aux
project
actually
isn't
the
aux
as
the
office
isn't
quite
yet
a
legal
entity.
It's
the
growing
season
which
the
ownership
is
not
you
know
related.
You
know
ownership,
I
do
not
believe,
has
any
relationship
members.
So
I
just
wanna
yeah.
AH
Okay,
so
I
so
that's
a
fair
point.
However,
trying
to
be
ethical,
I
mean
it's,
you
know
my
cousin
has
a
clear
interest
in
this:
getting
a
million
dollars
in
benefit
to
the
longevity
of
the
company
of
which
she
is
a
partner.
So
I
think
it
would
be
unethical
for
me
to
say
I'm
going
to
vote
for
because,
technically
it
is
something
else,
whereas
I
mean
the
folks
are
in
the
room
right
now,
so
it
is.
It
is
not
worth
my
integrity
to
take
a
vote
on
it.
C
Next
is
council
member
new
smith,
followed
by
kelly?
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Y
Y
So
we're
not
talking
about
the
business
tenants
but
we're
talking
about
you
know
the
the
aux
building
itself
and
I
want
to
I'm
excited
about
this
opportunity
to
support
the
business
tenants
and
to
council
member
braid
wright's
point
you
know
kind
of
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
to
do
something.
You
know
transformative
to
support
black
owned
businesses.
Y
I
do
have
some
questions
about
what
the
eventual
ownership
of
the
aux
llc
or
whatever
that
entity
will
legally
be
known.
As
what
can
we
do
to
ensure
majority
black
ownership
of
that
entity
and
not
just
you
know,
provide
a
willing
landlord,
but
let's,
let's
have
it
be
a
majority
black
landlord.
Y
With
those
concerns
expressed,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
fully
supportive
of
the
concept
at
you
know.
Whatever
dollar
amount
the
council
decides
and
I'm,
but,
as
I
said
before,
I'm
not
comfortable
making
that
vote
tonight.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
allocating
money,
certainly
from
the
economic
development
bucket.
Until
we
have
you
know
the
complete.
You
know
the
picture
in
front
of
us
and
we're
able
to
evaluate
this
proposal,
which
I
like
and
support
in
the
context
of
other
proposals
as
well.
Y
This
shouldn't
be
just
a
first,
come
first
serve
and
that's
not
too
not
to
be
dismissive
of
the
aux
folks,
because
they
have
followed
the
procedure
that
we
have
asked
them
to
follow.
Y
I
I
would
like
to
ask
everyone
else:
who's
interested
in
that
in
in
in
economic
development
funding,
to
follow
that
same
procedure,
we'll
end
up
with
a
number
of
proposals
in
front
of
us,
we'll
see
how
much
money
we
have
how
much
money
is
asked
for.
Then
we
can
make
the
decisions.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
in
order
at
this
point
or
what
the
the
temperature
of
the
console
would
be,
but
to
make
a
move
to
hold
this
to
a
date
certain
if
that
would
be
the
appropriate
action.
Y
Certain
I'll,
I
won't
make
that
motion
yet
I'll,
allow
my
colleagues
to
weigh
in,
but
that's
that's
where
my
mind
goes
at
least.
Z
So
I
concur
with
everything
that
jonathan
just
said.
I
was
going
to
say
essentially
very
similar,
similarly
that
I
think
great
opportunity
exciting
innovative,
but
I
also
would
like
to
see
it
either.
I'm
not
sure
if
it'd
be
held
until
we
have
that
opportunity
to
sort
out
our
expenses,
our
expenditures
and
our
projections
better.
Z
C
AM
The
answer
is
no:
it
had
to
be
tabled
under
city
council.
Is
it
to
be
tabled
to
a
date
certain
under
roberts
rules?
It
could
be
table
indefinitely,
but
under
city
council
rules
has
to
be
tabled
to
a
date
certain
and
because
it
was
brought
to
this
special
city
council
meeting
as
a
special
order
business.
It
cannot
be
held.
AB
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
think
this
is
a
very
exciting
proposal
and
I
agree
with
council
member
great
weight.
This
is
a
different
way
of
looking
at
this
than
we
have
done
before,
and
certainly
there
are
many.
There
are
just
innumerable
barriers
to
black
businesses.
Any
new
business
has
a
struggle,
but
particularly
black
businesses,
as
we
know,
have
additional
hurdles
they
have
to
overcome.
AB
I
we
received
some
additional
information
from
the
the
ox
proponents
just
in
the
last
day
or
so,
and
so
I
I
have
to
say,
I
need
more
time
to
review
this,
so
I
fully
understand
it,
but,
like
the
other
members
of
the
the
council,
I
think
this
is
a
really
exciting
opportunity,
but
I
do
want
to
understand
it
better
before
I
vote
on
it.
AB
I
think
a
million
dollars
is
a
large
chunk
of
our
arpa
money,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
this,
as
as
council
member
newsman,
is
saying
that
we
understand
what
are
the
choices
we're
making
by
supporting
this
and
in
this
amount.
So
I
would
support
holding
this
to
a
date
certain
so
that
all
of
the
members
of
the
council
can
more
thoroughly
understand
it,
because
this
is
unlike
anything,
that
we
have
had
before,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
fully
understand.
AB
C
Thank
you,
so
no
one
who
has
not
yet
spoken
is
requesting
to
speak.
Councilmember
braithwaite,
you
used
your
full
five
minutes
in
your
opening,
but
obviously
this
is
my
tradition
has
been
if
it's
an
initiative,
that
is
a
passion
project
in
the
consumer's
ward.
Of
course,
I'd
like
to
go
over
their
remarks,
but
I
wanted
to
be
aware
of
that
for
sort
of
situational
reasons.
G
I'll
be
brief,
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
that
provided
the
feedback,
because
I
think
this
is
important,
so
we're
saying
if
I'm
tracking,
that
we
are
in
general
support.
However,
I'm
also
hearing
that
they're
questions,
and
so
I
started
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
it's
important,
because
they're
here
that
we
are
clear
with
what
our
questions
are,
so
the
goal
post
doesn't
move
again
and
I
want
to
thank
councilman
bowen
new
small.
I
think
also
revell
spoke
to
this
as
well
as
fleming.
G
So,
if
you
have
questions
here,
they
are
we've
all
received
bits
and
pieces
of
the
information
based
on
the
questions
that
you
threw
out,
but
let's
just
be
open
with
whatever
your
concerns
are
so
that
when
we
do
set
the
date
that
we
come
prepared
to
vote
on
this
and
we'll
move
on,
so
the
one
question
that
has
come
up
is
the
ownership
that
package
that
agreement.
G
What
does
that
look
like
I'm
going
to
interpret
from
past
conversations
at
what
point?
Does
it
change
over
to
the
businesses?
I
think
there's
the
camp,
the
response
that
I've
heard
is
when
they're
sustainable.
That's
when
there
will
be
a
transfer,
but
I
think
to
have
some
type
of
agreement.
That's
pretty
clear
set
forward
is,
is,
what's
loud
and
clear.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
concerns
that
should
be
presented
to
this
group,
so
when
they
come
back
that
people
feel
that
they
have?
C
And
I
would
imagine
you
know,
council
member
wen,
made
the
point
that
we
just
got
some
information
recently.
I
would
imagine
that
you
know
the
folks
at
the
ox
have
been
at
least
with
me
really
generous,
with
their
time
willing
to
be
in
touch.
I
would
imagine
if
folks
have
questions
that
occur
to
them
during
the
course
of
that
study,
that
the
folks
at
the
ox
would
be
open
to
having
those
discussions.
AB
So
I
I
do
have
one
additional
request
of
information.
I
may
have
more,
as
this
goes
on
I'd
like
to
have
more
information
about
the,
and
it
may
be
that
there
are
links
provided
here,
the
similar
entities
in
milwaukee
and
dc
and
baltimore,
and
perhaps
so.
If,
if
I
could
get
more
information
about
those,
that
would
be
very
helpful
to
me.
AH
C
Option
I
want
to
flag
for
folks,
because
what
I
really
really
don't
want
to
do
is
table
it
for
a
date
certain
and
come
back
and
then
be
not
ready.
Then
I
think
that's
pretty
profoundly
disrespectful.
Frankly,
if
we
wind
up
doing
that
after
all
of
this,
so
another
option
would
be
referred
back
to
the
economic
development
committee
just
to
have
a
place
for
it
to
make
sure
that
when
it
comes
back
here,
we're
actually
ready.
We
have
clarity,
the
votes
are
lined
up
and
we
don't
put
people
through
this
kind
of
process
multiple
times.
AH
I
finish
my
question
yes.
Well,
it's
not
it's
a
comment.
I
guess
I
would
just
say
so
not
to
invalidate
people's
questions,
but
I
think
if
we
can
just
reflect
on
what
we're
saying
is
kind
of
maybe
two
different
things.
So
we're
saying
we
love
the
idea.
We
want
to
support
black
businesses.
AH
We
understand
historically,
why
black
businesses
don't
have
capital
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
then
we're
questioning
why
a
white
entity
at
this
point
has
come
forward
to
put
forward
the
money
for
black
businesses
to
get
started
and
and
how
they're
going
to
actually
be
owners
right,
and
so
not
that
it's
an
invalid
question.
But
I
will
say
for
my
five
years
of
being
here
that
we
haven't
had
our
funding.
AH
So
I
just
I
just
want
to
point
out
for
with
me
for,
in
my
opinion,
what
are
some
maybe
inconsistencies
again,
not
that
we
should
not
do
our
due
diligence
to
make
sure
businesses
are
sustainable
and
all
those
different
kind
of
things.
But
you
know,
I
think
that
the
reason
that
they're
making
the
ask
is
that
they
don't
have
the
capital
on
the
reason
that
this
other
entity
has
invested
in
them
is
to
get
them
to
the
point
to
be
business
owners
full
and
outright.
AH
And
I
think,
if
you
think
about
this
as
several
different
businesses
versus
one
business,
you
mean
the
ask
is
still
large
granted.
But
again
I
have
been
here
when
we
have
given
money
to
business,
hoping
they
would
do
great
and
they
have
not
done
great
and
it's
part
of
the
risk
that
we
take
when
we
invest
in
community
business.
C
Thanks
council
member
of
braithwaite,
followed
by.
B
Read
by
burns
point
of
order,
just
remember,
and
I've
only
raised
this
point
of
order
out
of
caution
for
council
member
fleming.
If,
if
the
council
members
recusing
themselves,
then
it's
yeah,
it's
a
full
refusal,
not
just
from
the
vote.
The
council
member
isn't
supposed
to
engage
in
the
debate
either,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
flag
that
for
council
member
fleming
since
she
raised
the
concern
herself
and
has
chosen
to
take
that
route,
just
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it
correctly
as
to
avoid
any
of
her
party.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Just
to
members
of
city
council.
I
will
make
a
referral.
My
recom,
my
suggestion
is
that
we
not
hold
to
a
date
certain,
but
that
we
refer
it
to
a
committee.
So
I'll
wait
until
everyone
has
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
and
then
with
the
understanding
of
nods
from
city
council.
I'd
like
to
refer
this
back
to.
AD
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
just
the
mere
fact
that
this
is
a
group
of
business
owners
who
are
going
to
be
committed
not
only
to
the
success
of
their
own
businesses,
but
each
other's
businesses
is
extremely
powerful,
no
matter
the
race
background,
etc.
That
that
model
in
and
of
itself,
I
think,
is
extremely
powerful
and
and
and
to
to
me
indicates
that
that
this
will
be
successful.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
put
that
out
there
that.
AD
Model
and
everybody
that
I
know
that
even
has
even
individual
businesses,
that
is
in
some
business
community
fares
more
better.
In
particular,
I've
I've
met
many
business
owners
who
are
in
a
a
business
group
who
were
able
to
get
ppp
loans
during
you
know,
covid
successfully,
because
they
were
able
to
work
with.
You
know
their
peers
in
these
organized
structure
groups
to
make
sure
that
they
understood
how
to
apply
where
to
apply
who
to
work
with
et
cetera.
So
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
seeing
this.
This
project
happen.
N
C
A
Y
Y
C
On
a
vote
of
eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
and
one
abstaining,
the
motion
passes
and
this
item
will
return
to
the
economic
development
committee
and
I
think
we
all
have
a
great
degree
of
optimism
that
will
be
back
here
and
meet
with
support
here
at
a
later
date.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
and
thanks
for
everything
you're
doing
for
the
city.
C
Moving
back
to
the
regular
order,
this
brings
us
to
item
sp2b,
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
on
item
sp2b.
AH
C
Scene,
none
council,
member
kelly.
Z
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
know.
Of
course
you
know
we
want
to
have
funds
available
for
contact,
tracing
or,
however,
that
you
know
I
know
just
looked
at
the
skokie
budget
and
it
looks
like
they've
just
incorporated
into
existing
staff.
I
just
is
there
any
kind
of
comparison
so
just
to
get
an
idea
as
to
how
this
a
575
000
allotment
just
for
that
compares
to
surrounding
cities.
AN
Good
day,
members
of
the
city
council,
ike
oboe,
director
health
and
human
services
department,
contact
tracing
is
not
just
performed
by
temporary
staff
that
we
hire
during
the
pandemic.
We
have
been
involved
as
well
the
permanent
staff
in
the
health
and
human
services
department.
AN
We
have
incorporated
staff
to
respond
even
initially
before
we
even
hired
temporary
staff
to
aid
in
this
effort.
I've
done
contact
trace
and
I
continue
to
do
it
as
well.
Our
permanent
staff
continue
to
do
it
as
well,
and
you
made
a
reference
to
skokie
health
department.
They
do
have
a
number
of
contact.
Traces
and
they've
also
used
their
staff
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
AN
Many
health
departments
who
didn't
have
the
grants
to
support
contact,
tracing
and
other
public
health
activities
and
and
functions,
had
to
use
the
staff
that
they
had
in
their
departments
to
respond
to
covet
19..
So
the
temporary
staff
that
we
hired
has
just
aided
and
helped
in
our
response
to
government
19..
So
it's
pretty
much
a
hands.
All
hands
are
on
deck
affair.
Everyone
is
involved
here.
AN
Our
social
workers
have
been
very
paramount
in
our
response:
public
health
practitioners
that
we
have
in
the
department,
even
though
there
are
few
of
us,
have
been
instrumental
in
our
response.
So
it's
a
collective
effort.
Z
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
understand
that
I
guess
my
question
is
like
on
average
cities
have
one
for
every
10
000..
I
just
was
looking
for
some.
That's
you
know
the
best
we
can
do
sort
of
to.
Let
you
know
residents
know
this
is
we're
on
par
with
what
other
can
we
said
ever
most
commun
communities
have
on
average
one
for
ten
thousand.
I
mean
I
just
that's
what
I
was
looking
for.
AN
So
we
pretty
much
base
it
on
trends.
We
at
the
height
of
the
pandemic
responded
to
about
10
cases
per
day,
which
can
be
very
overwhelming
for
for
staff.
AN
The
way
that
we
have
followed
our
protocol
is
assigning
one
contact
tracer
to
three
cases,
and
those
three
cases
can
actually
result
in
one
contact:
tracer
contacting
about
10
to
15
people
just
based
on
those
three
cases
keep
in
mind.
The
one
case
might
have
been
ex
the
closed
contacts
might
have
been
exposed
to
just
one
case
and
we
probably
have
about
seven
to
ten
ten
individuals.
So
that's
the
way
that
we
did
the
math
one
contact
tracer
to
three
cases
which,
as
I
mentioned,
might
expand
to
five
to
fifteen
contact,
closed
contacts.
Y
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
councilmember
kelly
asked
one
of
my
questions.
I
have
another
question
about
the
grants
received.
Y
We
received
several
grants,
one
for
817,
some
thousand
dollars
for
contract
tracing
and
then
another
grant
for
vaccination
for
290
thousand
dollars
were
we
eligible
for
those
grants
because
our
health
department
is
certified,
certainly
and
we
would
not
otherwise
have
been
eligible
for
those
grants
if
we
were
not
certified
you're
correct.
Thank
you.
AC
AN
The
two
current
grand
stats
support
staff
expires
in
december
of
this
month,
so
it
will
help
calm
the
nerves
up
our
temporary
staff.
If
I
can
relay
a
message
that
has
been
approved
in
council
tonight,
I've
been
asked
a
number
of
questions
about
their
future
with
a
health
department,
and
it
took
me
a
while
to
assemble
the
professionals
that
we
have
and
I
don't
want
to
to
lose
any
of
them.
So
if
it's
something
that
we
can
approve
expeditiously,
that
will
certainly
help
me
and
my
staff.
Thank
you.
C
Is
there
any
further
discussion
seeing
none
of
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
role.
B
B
C
AN
Thank
you,
and
just
one
thing
due
to
our
certification
as
a
health
department,
we
receive
a
number
of
grants.
The
latest
development
from
idbh
is
that
there
is
a
grant
that
will
be
coming.
I
don't
know
when
we'll
be
approved
for
that.
My
guess
would
be
early
next
year
that
will
be
getting
the
grant.
So
when
we
do
get
that
grant
any
of
the
money
that
we've
spent
or
allocated
through
my
request
will
be
reimbursed
to
the
city's
post.
Z
Z
I'm
just
asking
if
we
could
hold
this
and
just
come
back
next
week.
I
mean
it
won't,
put
things
off
in
terms
of
you
know
the
dates
that
you
just
gave
us
in
response
to
to
tom's
question
and
then
just
to
give
us
on
average
what
communities
are
hiring
in
terms
of
fts
per
capita.
AN
Well,
it's
a
question
that
I
can
ask
the
number
of
certified
health
departments,
but
keep
in
mind.
As
far
as
I
know,
scope,
I
don't
know
how
many
contact
traces
that
they
have
a
number
of
communities
that
I
know,
for
example,
stephanie.
AN
AN
You
know
just
based
on
trends
based
on
matrix
and
we
also
reduce
the
amount
of
hours
depending
on
our
positivity
rate.
So
if
you
do
not
have
any
cases
for
a
specific
period
of
time,
re-reduce
their
hours
just
to
because
that's
what
they
do,
that's
their
job,
they
do
contact
traces
and
if
they
don't
have
any
work
to
do,
it
is
something
that
we
monitor
and
we
reduce
their
hours
and
when
we
start
to
get
an
influx
of
cases,
we
increase
their
hours.
So.
AB
AN
AN
AH
So
I
for
me,
I'm
ready
to
vote
on
this.
I
mean
I
think
kovit
is
the
one
reason
that
we
have
any
arpa
funds,
not
to
say
we
need
to
just
you
know,
spend
willy
nilly,
but
you
know
definitely
some
other
things
on
the
agenda
tonight.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
just
vote
no
too,
but
I
mean
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
do.
Hopefully
we
don't
have
an
increase
in
covet
anymore,
so
we
don't
need
as
many
contact
tracers,
but
I
would
just
say
you
know
when
we
when
we
had
the
covet
outbreak.
AH
I
think
for
me
that's
when
I
realized
that
our
health
department
had
really
been
decimated
and
we
barely
had
a
health
department,
and
so
I
was
very
kind
to
come
out
to
the
food
pantry
several
times,
but
also
was
like
constantly
trying
to
find
contact
tracers,
and
I
think
we
were
using,
like
the
outreach
staff
to
do
some
contact,
racing
and
volunteers
which
which
were
fine,
but
I
mean
we
need
to
have
a
functioning
health
department
again.
AH
Hopefully
we
don't
go
back
to
where
we
were
with
needing
contact,
tracers
and
in
terms
of
other
communities.
I
mean,
I
think
it's
fine
to
have
that
as
a
benchmark,
but
I
don't
think
other
communities
had
quite
decimated
their
health
department
as
we
had,
and
so
we
are
really
trying
to
rebuild.
My
other
concern
is
you
know
it
is
a.
It
is
an
employee,
an
employee
market
right
now.
C
With
nine
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
item
sp
to
be
passes,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
our
minutes-
the
motion
was
made
by
council
member
fleming.
I'm
not
sure
that
we
tracked
two
second
of
the
motion
and
council.
Remember
one
second
of
the
motion.
Thank
you
for
that.
AB
C
AD
AL
AL
200
of
the
you
know,
omni
circular,
as
it's
called,
which
is
all
of
the
procurement
requirements
all
of
the
reporting
requirements,
all
of
the
that
sort
of
requirement
stuff.
That
has
to
be
done.
So
it's
the
compliance
for
just
the
day-to-day.
Every
time
you
get
a
payment
that
you're
making.
We
don't
just
give
people
money,
we
actually
have
to
get
what
they're
paying
for
or
what
they
want
us
to
pay
for,
and
we
have
to
go
through
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
actually
eligible
and
allocable.
If
it's
an
allocated
thing.
AL
So
you
know
it
is
not
an
easy
process.
It,
hopefully
won't
be
quite
as
complicated
as
nsp2
in
nsp2.
AL
Whenever
we
were
re
approving
a
draw,
we
usually
had
about
500
pages
of
backup
that
we
had
to
go
through
and
we
had
to
make
sure
that
things
were
allocated
correctly
across
the
houses
that
were
for
sale.
If
we
were
doing
advertising
and
stuff
like
that,
so
hopefully
we
won't
have
any
problems
like
that,
but
it's
very,
very
detailed.
AL
We
will
have
to
monitor
every
sub-recipient
that
we
give
money
to
whether
it's
if
it's
a
non-profit
who's,
doing
some
kind
of
service
and
where
there
is
a
relatively
small
thing,
it's
only
about
50
or
60
pages.
That
is
the
first
reporting
information
and
it
refers
you
to
things
like
the
the
annual
update
to
to
cfr
200,
which
we
have
to
look
at,
which
I
started
looking
at
not
like.
AL
I
don't
even
see
how
it's
relevant,
because
it
came
out
in
2020
before
arpa
was
even
out,
but
you
have
to
look
for
everything
that,
in
theory,
you're
supposed
to
make
this
grant
compliant
with
every
time
you
have
a
contractor.
You
have
to
check
them
in
sam.gov.
You
have
to
have
duns
numbers,
but
more
important
than
just
the
compliance
the
person
the
people
who
will
be
doing
this
will
also
be
helping
with
programming
and
things
like
that.
AL
So
when
we
get
to
things
like,
are
we
going
to
do
housing
rehab
to
try
to
make
our
low
income
housing
carp?
You
know
sustainable
along
carp
and
also
better
create
better
health
outcomes,
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
that'll
be
implemented
and
it'll
be
getting
contractors
it'll
be
getting
it'll,
be
putting
together
a
whole
program
which
is
going
to
have
some
similarities
to
the
nsp
program.
AL
Now
one
of
the
things
that
when
hitachi
was
talking
about
what
outside
organizations
when,
if
you
the
people
who
are
hiring
hiring
cpa
companies
to
do
their
compliance
and
reporting,
are
not
having
to
manage
their
programs,
so
you
know
that's
even
another
thing,
so
we
actually
think
we
can
do
this
more
efficiently
when
we
do
it
in
house,
because
we
have
different
capacities.
AL
Realistically,
we
have
a
team.
We
have
one
of
the
most
probably
experienced
teams
in
terms
of
federal
grant
management
of
any
community
our
size
in
the
entire
state.
I
oak
park
lost
their
long-term
cwpg
person
and
I
get
constant
emails
hey
what's
this?
What
am
I
supposed
to
be
doing?
AL
It
isn't
easy
to
manage
these
federal
grants
and
it's
critical
that
it
be
done,
because
we
get
monitored
on
these
things
we
are
going
to
have
to
send
in
for
every
expense
of
50,
000
or
more
there's
a
detailed
thing
that
has
to
be
sent
in.
We
have
to
create
outcome
measures
for
programs
and
monitor
them,
just
as
we're
doing
with
our
cdbg
programs.
AL
Oh
you
did
it
wrong,
give
the
money
back.
It's
really
not
a
fun
thing.
So
far
we
have
not
had
to
give
money
back
on
any
of
our
programs
that
we've
gotten
we
didn't
have
to
on
nsp.
We
didn't
have
to
on
hprp
that
we
were
also
doing
during
that
last
recovery.
We
haven't,
you
know
we
haven't
been
monitored
on
cdbgc
and
esgcv,
but
all
of
these
things
require
a
great
deal
of
detailed
work.
AL
It's
not
the
most
fun
thing
we
do.
We
do
it.
We
have
to
do
it
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
ourselves
into
trouble,
but
and
also
accomplish
the
goals
of
our
community,
and
I
think
that
you
know
you're
not
going
to
find
somebody
who's
going
to
come
in
and
put
together
a
housing,
rehab
program.
You're
not
going
to
find
people
who
are
going
to
you
know
do
a
lot
of
these
other
things
that
I
think
are
necessary
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
a
successful
recovery
from.
N
AL
And
you
know
it
is
constant:
there
are
quarterly
reports,
there
are
annual
reports
and
they're
all
different
during
the
recovery.
AL
AH
C
Do
you
have
a
follow-up
question?
The
next
two
speakers
our
council
members
suffered
and
then
nusma.
AC
Hey
sarah
sorry,
you
walked
away.
I
the
first
question
is
it's
similar
to
the
question
that
I
asked
dr
ogbo:
is
there
a
reason
why
this
has
to
be
approved
tonight
or
could
this
happen
in
december.
AL
AL
They're,
based
on
it's
based
on
a
position
that
is
similar
to
the
positions
that
report
to
me
right
now,
jessica,
wingateur
and
marion
johnson,
who
are
doing
grant
management
and
compliance
and
doing
program
development
as
they've
been
doing
that
during
you
know,
marion
developed,
the
some
of
the
small
business
programs
that
we've
funded
with
cbbg
cv,
and
you
know
that
sort
of
thing
part
of
my
salary
is
put
in
there
and
then
part
of
teresa
borgia.
Who
is
our
financial
analyst
for
our
federal
grants?
AL
N
G
AL
No,
it's
it's
divided
out
over
three
years,
so
it's
the
staffing
costs
over
three
years
and
then
it's
some
other
things.
You
know
we
do
actually
have
a
little
bit
of
a
slush
fund.
We
might
do
something
like
want
to
have
slush
fund
being.
We
might
need
to
have
something
like
a
license
or
two
for
our
zoom
grants,
application
if
we're
doing
getting
applications
for
social
services
or
something
like
that.
That's
a!
AL
AL
The
way
I
was
getting
time
a
half
time
and
about
25
percent
of
it
so.
C
AL
AL
That
doesn't
necessarily
take
a
ton
of
time,
but
you
have
to
have
separation
of
people
looking
at
approving
funding
you
know
draws
and
all
that
stuff
and
she's
really
good
at
it.
Sarah.
Y
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
First
quick
question
is:
can
we
bill
oak
park
for
the
services
you
appear
to
be
rendering
them.
Y
All
right,
fair
enough,
so
1.75,
you
know,
fte
900
000
seems
like
a
lot,
and
so
I
guess
my
fundamental
question
is:
is
it
that
much
work?
Yes?.
Y
Okay
and
then
the
next
question
is
what
happens
to
these
people,
to
the
new
hire
after
2024.
AL
Well,
when
we
hired
for
nsp,
we
said
the
position
was
expected
to
be
about
three
years,
and
so
we
didn't
it
wasn't
something
that
we
said.
We
absolutely
will
have
a
position
forever.
Now
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
do
it
as
a
true
contract,
because
one
of
the
things
that
happens
is
frequently
not.
Everything
is
quite
over
in
the
number
of
years,
and
so
you
have
to
have
and
again
you
know
we're
doing
some
estimates
on
staff
costs
and
until
people
are
hired
there
won't
be
any
so.
Y
The
understanding
would
be
when
hiring
this
person.
They
will
be
here
until
as
long
as
the
job
exists,
which
will
not
be
indefinitely
right.
That
makes
sense,
and
then
the
job
description
or
the
proposal
discussion
includes
participatory
budgeting.
So
it's
anticipated
that
these
folks
were
talking
about,
would
set
up
and
manage
the
participatory
budget.
Well,.
AL
AL
D
D
Y
C
Me
seeing
no
one
else
seeking
recognition.
Oh
all
right.
AH
Okay,
so
I
I
I
do
think
we
need
a
person.
I
think
I
want
to
bring
up
two
things
that
made
me
super
nervous,
so
sarah
mentioned
like
we
already
have
allocated
for
these
cars,
but
we're
not
sure
our
cars
fall
under
like
so.
Maybe
that's
not
what
you
said.
That's
what
I
heard
it's
late.
Okay!
So
then
my
other
question
had
to
be
with
the
one,
the
half
and
the
quarter.
So
if
you
are
half
of
this,
you
know
funding
proposal.
Does
that
mean
so?
AL
Half
of
my
time
would
be
this
half
of
my
time
would
be
the
other
other.
AH
N
AH
AL
AH
Full
person
they're
getting
paid
whatever
they're
getting
paid
under
this
contract.
We
have
a
quarter
person,
so
that's
the
young
lady
you
spoke
about
so
quarter
of
her
job
is
going
to
be
this
and
that
quarter
of
a
job
is
not
only
allocated
in
here
for
time,
but
it's
also
allocated
in
here
for
dollars
right,
so
a
quarter
of
her
salary
and
a
quarter
of
her
time
is
now
being
paid
for
out
of
this.
If
we
approve
this,
this
grant
management
fund.
AH
AH
AH
Okay,
so
I
so
I
understand
that,
but
also
I
can
talk
about
this.
I
guess
I'm
not
because
you
seem
to
do
a
lot
of
things
now
and
unless
we
hire
another
person
who's
going
to
do
half
of
the
things
you're
doing
now.
I
don't
know
where
that
half
of
work
goes,
but
I'm
paying
for
you
to
do
half
of
another
job.
So
I
guess
I'm
not
trying
to
set
us
into
a
situation
where,
at
some
point
or
another
we're
having
a
discussion
about
how
your
department
is
stretched.
AH
Half
of
your
portfolio
is
now
floating
on
the
ethernet,
with
nobody
to
pick
up
the
pieces
for
it.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
which
I
don't
need
to
do
tonight.
You
can.
We
can
talk
about
it
tomorrow,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
where
half
your
workload
is
going
if
we're
not
hiring
another
part-time
person,
assuming
the
work
that
you're
doing
now
still
needs
to
be
done.
Who
is
doing
that.
AH
D
No,
we
can.
I
I
talk
to
director
nidan
and
she
can
convert
another
position,
that's
in
the
budget
or
there
will
be
budgeting
for
that
other
position.
AH
AH
AL
D
AL
AL
AH
C
AL
I
don't
understand
how
the
salary
question
is
because
it's
half
of
my
salary
and
benefits
and
then
it's
a
salary,
a
position.
I
think
it's
an
a
33
or
something
like
that
or
the
equivalent
of
that
which
is
one
of
our
positions
that
is
similar
to
the
positions
that
are
in
my
department.
AH
AH
B
Oh
geez,
a
number
of
the
questions
I
had
councilmember
fleming
got
into
yeah,
and
so
I
guess
at
this
point
I'm
gonna
just
agree
with
councilmember
fleming
that
I
think
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
held.
I
I
have
questions
you
know,
there's
some
very
similar
questions
about
where
the
money
that
is
currently
budgeted
for
you
know
behalf
of
sarah's
work
and
other
folks
within
the
division.
How
that's
going
to
be
allocated.
B
Yes,
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
I'm
supportive
of
either
cabling
this
or
suspending
the
rules
and
holding
it
to
the
next
meeting
in
order
to
give
time
for
that
information
to
be
gathered
and
presented
to
the
council.
B
B
I
guess
if
we
were
to
table
this,
what
is
the
date
that
are
we
just
tabling
it
to
the
next
meeting,
or
are
we
tabling
it
two
meetings
from
now?
How
much
time
do
you
think
folks
would
need
to
get.
C
We
can
get
questions
in
writing
to
miss
blacks,
quickly.
There's
a
meeting
a
week
from
today.
I
would.
N
Y
B
I
will
table
this
item
until
was
it
november
22nd?
I'm
sorry,
that's
not
a
week
from
now
november.
B
Also
not
a
week
from
now
either
yeah
just
think
of
meetings,
yes
november
8th,
so
council.
C
We
do
have
a
regular
meeting
that
day.
Second
councilmember
reed
moves
to
table
item
sp2c
until
november
8th
council
member
fleming
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
to
table,
or
we
maybe
aren't
allowed
to
do
that?
I
always
mess
that
up.
Will
the
third
please
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
table
this
for
one
week.
Y
AA
C
On
a
vote
of
eight
voting
in
favor,
eight,
who
varied
somewhat
in
enthusiasm
and
one
voting
against
the
motion
carries
this
item
will
be
on
the
agenda
on
monday
november
8th.
I
would
ask
those
who
have
questions
to
get
them
in
writing
to
ms
blacks.
Early
this
week
we
had
a
long
discussion.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
hard
to
put
the
questions
that
you
all
have
in
writing.
Y
C
A
Y
C
With
nine
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
carries
items,
sp2
e
and
f
are
both
referred
to
the
economic
development
committee.
We're
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
items
raised.
I
would
suggest
that
we're
not
in
a
position
to
really
do
serious,
deliberative
work
at
this
hour.
C
You
know
tomorrow
get
that
email
out
to
the
council
within
36
hours
and
then
solicit
feedback
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
how
to
get
to
the
plan
that
we
need,
I
would
suggest,
rather
than
sort
of
entering
into
a
kind
of
11
30
pm,
half-baked
fight
about
the
buckets.
C
I
think
that
we
should
pause
at
this
moment
and
allow
the
bucket
decision
to
be
incorporated
into
that
process
that
we'll
present
to
you
is
there
any
objection
to
that
all
right,
seeing
none!
You
can
expect
to
hear
from
me
again
within
36
hours,
hopefully
less,
and
that
brings
us
to
call
of
the
awards,
beginning
with
council
member
fleming
councilmember
kelly.
No.
Z
AB
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
to
the
third
ward
meeting
in
person
third
ward
meeting
last
thursday
night.
We
had
an
excellent
discussion
about
a
wide
variety
of
issues,
and
if
anyone
wants
to
come
and
talk
to
me
in
person,
one
on
one,
I
will
be
holding
my
office
hours
from
7
30
to
10
a.m.
This
coming
thursday
at
brothers
k.
Thank
you.
Y
Fourth
ward
meeting
tomorrow
night,
seven
o'clock
at
robert
crown
we'll
be
joined
by
mayor
biss
and
director
igbo
to
talk
about
albany
care
issues,
great
park
issues
and
also,
I
believe,
hitesh
desai-
will
join
us
to
talk
about
the
budget.
Thank
you.
AD
Yeah,
please
join
me
in
parking
division
manager,
michael
rivera
for
a
meeting
on
wednesday
november
17th
at
7
p.m.
Double
clutch
brewery,
2121
at
ashland
avenue
to
identify
new
strategies
and
opportunities
to
improve
neighborhood
parking
for
residents
and
businesses
in
the
hill
arts
district.
AD
The
discussion
will
focus
on
establishing
parking
rules
to
create
turnover
so
that
there
is
equitable
access
to
parking
meeting
agenda
options
for
short-term
parking
management
at
2100
to
2200
ashland
street
parking
on
1500
to
1600,
payne
street
usage
options
for
city
lease
parking
lot
at
2200,
ashland
street
avenue,
exploring
a
residential
park
parking
district
at
2100
to
2200,
dewey
street
and
generally
discussing
load
zones,
residential
parking
districts,
metered
parking
and
parking
for
commercial
vehicles.
Again,
that's
november
17th,
7
pm
double
clutch
brewery.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
revell.
AA
I'd
just
like
to
note
the
passing
of
marianne
capo,
who
was
a
very
active
and
engaged
civic
community
member,
very
involved
in
a
number
of
local
organizations,
both
as
a
board
member
and
as
a
fundraiser.
AA
She
was
particularly
passionate
in
her
support
of
the
evanston
public
library
and
she
was,
most
importantly,
I
think,
a
founding
board
member
of
the
evanston
community
foundation
and
served
as
the
board
chair
of
the
foundation.
B
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
residents
that
came
out
to
our
ward
meeting
last
week.
We
will
be
having
a
november
award
meeting
that
will
be
announced
shortly,
exactly
which
day
that
will
be
normally
award.
Ratings
will
take
place
on
the
last
thursday
of
every
month,
except
for
november
and
december,
certainly
also
looking
for
any
residents
who
happen
to
watch
these
meetings
all
the
way
until
the
end,
you
know
looking
to
try
to
do
something.
B
You
know
come
together
as
a
community
as
an
eighth
ward
community
for
the
holidays,
particularly
in
december.
So
if
folks
have
ideas
about
a
way
that
we
can
build
community
in
their
age
award,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
and
I'll
probably
be
reaching
out
to
alderman
fleming
about
that
as
well,
since
you've
successfully
done
that.
So
that
ends
my
report.