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A
D
A
And
tonight
normally
we
do
our
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
but
we
thought
we
would
do
it
this
evening
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
since
there
are
some
issues
of
you
know,
funding
decisions
that
this
committee
is
going
to
be
discussing
and
we
thought
there
might
be
comments
from
members
of
the
public
about
some
of
those
issues.
So
marion,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
to
call
on
people
who
want
to
offer
public
comment.
E
E
So
tonight
in
the
attendees
we
have
betty
bogg,
edina,
keeling,
jennifer
foyer
crystal
jody
wickersheimer,
jonique
smith,
julia
flores,
liz,
novak,
monique,
parsons,
nia,
tavolaris,
nicole
woodward
and
sue
lobeck.
As
far
as
public
comment,
it
looks
like
we
only
have
one
person
looking
to
make
public
comment
and
that
would
be
betty
bogg
all
right.
F
F
We're
in
conversations
to
purchase
the
margarita
in
such
negotiations
are
sensitive
and
therefore
I'm
limited
on
what
I
can
say.
What
I
can
address
is
the
misperception
that
a
lack
of
oversight
has
led
to
increased
crime
and
the
false
claim
that
we
do
not
provide
comprehensive,
wrap
around
services
for
our
participants.
F
First,
opponents
are
falsely
claiming
a
huge
uptick
in
crime
at
the
margarita
connections
tracks
all
incidents
that
occur
at
our
sites.
We're
in
the
process
of
analyzing
this
data,
but
I
can
share
with
you
that
from
january
1st
2022
until
today,
april
19th,
our
records
show
only
two
incidents
requiring
a
police
response.
F
One
was
a
brief
misunderstanding
between
roommates
that
was
peacefully
resolved
with
no
charges
filed,
and
the
second
was
an
incident
in
which
our
staff
called
for
assistance
when
a
non-residence
was
seeking
access
to
the
property
and
refused
to
leave,
we
hope
to
compare
our
reports
to
evanston
police
reports.
However,
it's
been
difficult
for
us
to
obtain
detailed
information
from
the
department.
F
F
F
In
addition
to
case
management,
our
services
include
on-site
physical
and
mental
health
care
via
licensed
nursing
staff
and
a
mental
health
professional
who
provides
individual
and
group
therapy.
We
have
substance,
use
disorder,
support
employment,
counseling
and
many
additional
supportive
services.
As
always,
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
discuss
connections
work
at
any
time
with
any
community
member.
Thank
you.
F
A
D
G
A
A
What
was
that
motion
passes?
Thank
you.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
our
main
items.
We
have
some
very
important
items
to
discuss
at
our
meeting
this
evening
and
the
first
is
the
maga
ymca
men's
residence
renovation,
a
funding
request
and
to
get
us
started.
I
guess
I
do
need
a
committee
member
to
make
a
motion
that
we
consider
and
recommend
three
million
dollars
in
funding
for
this
renovation.
Would
someone
make
that
motion
please.
G
I
I
To
really
share
start
sharing,
what
the
needs
of
the
men's
residents
are
and
and
how
they
were
looking
to
address
and
change
the
facility,
but
also
how
they
are
changing
their
programming
from
its
many
many
years
of
history,
of
providing
housing.
In
addition,
we
have
nicole
woodard
here
and
jody
wickersheimer.
I
Nicole,
is
the
chief
operating
officer
and
jody
is
the
chief
development
officer
and
I
think
they're
on
to
answer
questions
if
need
be,
and
so
monique
you
are
on.
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
whole
memo,
because
you
have
such
a
thorough
presentation.
I
think
it
would
be
completely
unnecessary
so
well.
Thank
you.
J
J
J
I'm
joined
tonight
by
nicole
woodard,
who
is
my
chief
operating
officer
and
jody
wickenshimer,
my
chief
development
officer,
both
who
have
been
with
the
y
for
over
five
years.
I'm
planning
on
sharing
a
few
key
highlights
in
the
next
eight
in
the
next
eight
slides
and
then
open
the
floor
up
for
conversation
with
this
committee.
J
Thank
you.
The
national
y
movement
was
founded
in
the
1800s
as
boarding
houses
for
men
in
evanston.
We
never
wavered
in
our
commitment
to
housing
men
when
they
were
at
moments
of
their
transition,
but
what
they
needed
and
how
they,
how
we
responded,
as
an
organization
has
certainly
changed
in
the
1980s
and
the
90s.
The
residence
was
a
tenant
and
landlord
relationship.
J
J
We
are
committed
to
our
role
to
provide
bridge
housing
and
support
services
with
a
focus
on
getting
men
permanent
housing
after
one
thousand
growth.
In
short,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
help
our
resident
members
get
to
their
address
after
they
leave
magog
since
20.
Since
october,
2021
12
resident
members
have
already
moved
to
permit
market
rate
apartments.
J
J
The
social
services
are
formal
and
structured,
but
also
embedded
informal
in
the
informal
interactions
in
the
lobby,
the
hallways
and
gathering
spaces
throughout
the
y.
In
addition
to
the
direct
service
staff,
the
membership
and
building
service
teams
are
the
supporting
cast
in
the
care
for
our
resident
members.
J
In
essence,
the
resident
members
have
10
to
15
people
engaging
with
them
and
looking
out
for
them
each
day
in
addition
to
the
community
that
is
built
among
them.
I
appreciate
the
statement
in
marion
johnson's.
Memo
to
the
committee
quote.
The
sro
model
also
provides
for
additional
level
of
interactions
with
staff
and
other
residents,
which
contributes
to
the
success
of
the
program.
J
They
are
a
community
within
a
community
where
services
meet
them
literally
at
their
front
door.
We
are
proud
to
serve
the
members
of
our
community,
who
need
us
the
most
with
housing
and
services,
and
we
now
have
a
vision
for
the
future
of
ways
for
the
future
of
the
ways
that
we
can
serve
them
better.
Next
slide.
Please.
J
J
Our
commitment
to
equity
is
on
display
with
this
project
and
drove
specific
elements
of
our
design.
For
example,
congregate
spaces
need
more
square
footage.
Four
efficiency
units
will
support
short-term
rentals,
ranging
from
emergency
housing
to
unexpected
medical
circumstances,
bathrooms
kitchen
nets
and
laundry
facilities
on
each
floor.
That
will
allow
for
more
distance
in
space
and
less
crossover
between
individuals,
showers,
providing
privacy
with
an
individual
changing
room.
J
J
J
J
A
H
Hi,
I'm
lauren
berlin.
I
don't
think
we've
met
before.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It
is
exciting
at
the
risk
of
asking
a
question
very
far
in
the
future.
More
more
just
out
of
curiosity
than
anything
else,
you
mentioned
that
you're
committed
to
preserving
the
affordability
of
the
units
for
30
years.
I'm
just
I'm
just
curious
what
happens
after
30
years?
I
mean
I
imagine
that
indefinitely
they
would
continue
to
be
sro
units
dedicated
to
this
purpose.
J
They
definitely
will
be
so
they
have
always
been
mcgall
ymca,
as
well
as
the
emerson
ymca
when
it
was
created
and
built
was
built
for
housing
and
mcgall.
Ymca
has
never
steered
away
from
that,
so
our
commitment
is
is
to
make
sure
that
we
support
the
community
that
we
serve
and
so
that
affordability
will
go
on
indefinitely.
D
G
J
L
Hello,
thank
you
for
having
us
happily,
so
you
know
I
want
to
say
in
in
this
immediate
pastor.
In
covid,
we
guaranteed
that
men
would
be
housed
right,
no
mander
unemployment,
you
know,
and
all
that
has
happened,
and
so
we
have
156
men
living
at
the
y.
But
we
typically
plan
for
about
94
to
95
occupancy,
and
that
is
our
you
know
is-
is
standard,
often
it's
higher
than
that,
but
it
is.
It
is
always
in
the
mid
to
high
90s.
G
G
L
So
let
us
hope
that
that
is
the
case.
We
don't
anticipate
that
being
the
case,
given
what
we're
learning
about
variants
and
the
way
this
is
moving
forward.
But
we
are
renovating
our
spaces
to
a
high
degree.
They
are
flexible
enough
again.
We
we
would
love
to
go
out
of
business,
we're
not
going
to
go
out
of
business
right.
J
You
know
a
place,
that's
convenient
and
prepared
to
to
receive
them,
but
while
they're
with
us,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they
have
all
the
accommodations.
They
need
to
live
a
well
life,
and
so
the
efficiencies
are
something
new
that
we
would
like
to
add,
because
we
did
discover
through
kovic
hover,
taught
us
all
a
lot
that
our
men
needed
needed,
more
space
right
and-
and
so
we
were
trying
to
make
those
accommodations
while
still
being
flexible
with
the
living
environment.
L
M
Definitely
yeah
some
of
the
the
timeless
designs
are
regardless
of
covet
or
any
other
communicable
disease
showers
that
are
individual
versus
a
room
to
be
very
specific
right.
Now
it's
a
shower
room,
one
room
for
a
group
of
men
to
shower
together
and
then
even
in
the
bathrooms
sinks
are
on
one
side
and
the
toilet
areas
are
on
another.
So
it's
just
a
it
takes
more
space,
but
those
kind
of
design
changes
are
going
to
be
timeless
and
again
provide
that
privacy
and
dignity
even
outside
times
of
illness,
and
it's.
J
D
D
Been
has
been
around
for
sure,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
helping
this
project
advance
since
we're
talking
about
arpa
money.
Let's
talk
about
funding
and
monique.
If
you
could
talk
to
the
sources
and
and
uses
of
of
the
funding,
how
much
are
you
intending
to
raise
for
this
project
and
how
is
that
money
all
going
to
be
used
and
how
does
the
city's
proposed
contribution
fit
in.
J
M
Go
ahead,
so
the
whole
project
is
a
12.6
million
dollar
project
and
we
really
heard
the
kind
of
call
to
action
with
the
arpa
funding
that
projects
needed
to
be
kind
of
like
a
one-time
investment,
promote
the
sustainability,
and
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
budget
for
this
project
was
comprehensive.
So
it
includes
the
relocation
for
our
gentlemen
during
this
time
and
that
is
really
closing
the
gap
between
housing
that
they
will
still
pay
during
this
time.
M
And
then
what
is
market
rent
in
addition
to
a
an
endowment
that
will
be
used
for
future
maintenance
as
well
as
fee
assistance
right,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
while
the
operational
model
is
very
lean
that
it
it
doesn't
create.
This
ongoing
need
for
us
to
do
a
capital
campaign
in
another
50
75
92
years.
The
majority
of
the
construction
costs
are
really
what
take
up
the
budget
and
that's
about
6.9
million
dollars.
M
M
D
D
J
Yes,
okay
and-
and
we've
talked
to
as
jody
mentioned
city
staff
before
the
other
thing
that
will
go
on
forever.
Is
that
we
will
continue
to
be
partners
with
the
city
I
mean
this
is
we
are
in
partnership?
We
have.
This
is
probably
our
first
time
coming
to
the
city
for
this
a
number
like
this
I
mean
we
are.
You
know
we
have
maintained
our
facility
in
terms
of
adding
to
it
and
responding
to
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
this
is
one
area
where
we
intersect.
J
I
mean
this
is
what
we
do.
Many
of
the
men
that
that
live
here
work
in
our
community.
They
receive
services
from
the
city
there.
There
was
a
time
when
city
staff
placed
men
in
our
facility,
so
so
this
has
been
a
long-term
relationship
and
I
just
think
it's
it's
very
consistent
to
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
and
and
how
we
can
provide
continue
to
provide
that
service.
J
I
We
keep
changing
those
darn
categories,
don't
we?
It
makes
it
very
difficult,
but
we've
talked
about
at
one
point:
we
had
four
million
for
housing
and
then
we
had
additional
money
for
our
impacted,
disparately
impacted
communities.
So
quite
frankly,
there's
it's
somewhat
what
we
use
in
which
category
is
somewhat
flexible
since
things
like
the
one
stop
shop
that
we're
talking
about,
which
I
think
we're
all
very
committed
to
is
going
to
be
focused
on
those
areas
of
greatest
need,
are
lower
income
neighborhoods
and
would
likely
come
out
of
that
bucket.
I
You
know
to
again
purchase
and
renovate
vacant
and
foreclosed
homes
that
census
tract
was
one
of
the
ones
of
that
focus
because
we
saw
the
initial
challenges
were
in
those
two
census
tracts,
but
then
there
was
sort
of
a
rolling
down
to
the
so
there's
some
real.
I
I
see
the
the
that
particular
project.
The
one
stop
shop
coming
out
of
the,
as
I
say,
the
the
stuff
is
the
the
funding.
That's
the
geographic
focus
is.
D
I
Well,
we
talked
about
a
number
of
funds
in
it's
possible
that
we
could
use
some
money
from
the
affordable
housing
fund.
But
I'll
be
frank,
we
have
more,
you
know,
other
flexible
uses
and
and
no
deadline
to
spend
that
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
consider
and
that
we
can
do
something
like
what
we
did
in
with
the
ann
rainey
apartments.
In
that
case,
we
had
this
great
idea.
I
I
wanted
to
use
half
a
million
dollars
of
home
funding
and
then
a
million
and
a
half
from
the
affordable
housing
fund,
but
we
hadn't
gotten
our
20
our
year
of
our
next
year
of
home
funding.
Yet
so
we
didn't
really
know
how
much
we
were
going
to
get
and
everything
like
that.
So
we
basically
made
a
commitment
and
said
it
will
come
from
one
of
these
sources.
I
So
it's
you
know,
and
some
of
our
other
areas
have
other
possible
funding
sources
like
the
five
fifth
tiff
is
going
to
start
kicking
in
at
some
point,
and
so
we
we
have
more
resources
in
other
areas.
So
I'm
not
particularly
I'm
you
know,
I
I
think
one
of
the
important
things
is
if
we
had
a
more
consistent
source
of
money
for
the
affordable
housing
fund,
I
would
be
more
interested
in
maybe
splitting
that,
but
but
that's
that's
the
challenge.
I
Yeah
there's
plenty
of
red
tape
on
all
federal,
but
it's
it's
even
more
intense
one
of
the
things
that
is
important
to
think
about
is
sros,
aren't
really
a
very
easily
fundable
form
of
housing,
because
you
know,
let's
face
it
in
this
country,
we've
kind
of
pushed
them
out
of
existence
in
many
places
and
and
the.
Why
did
apply
to
the
illinois
housing
development
authority
five
years
ago
about,
I
think
it
was
for
low-income
housing,
tax
credits
and
mayor
haggard,
you
wrote
a
letter
of
support.
I
I
wrote
a
letter
of
support.
A
lot
of
us
were
saying
this
is
a
very
important
facility
and
and
housing
part
of
our
housing
program.
You
know
our
of
our
affordable
housing,
even
though
they're
not
full
housing
units,
which
is
really
what
many
many
housing
funding
the
focus
of
housing
funding
was
put.
I
That
way-
and
lytex
said
I
mean
I
just
said-
no-
we're
not
going
to
give
you
litex,
so
a
lot
of
the
other
funding
sources
that
are
generally
used
for
large
projects,
whether
it
is
new
construction
or
even
rehab,
or
acquisition
in
rehab,
like
the
tax
credit
programs,
they're,
just
not
open
to
funding
it,
which
creates
a
problem.
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
about
the
wise
operating
budget
and
I
we
they
did
share
it
with
us
and
we
didn't
get
it
oh
yeah.
I
We
do,
we
have
it
in
the
in
the
packet.
It
just
took
the
last
page
of
that
and
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
is
it's.
It's
a
blended
it.
You
know
you,
you
have
approximately
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
of
money
coming
in
earned
income
from
the
rent
or
the
the
re,
the
fees
that
the
residents
pay.
I
It's
almost
like
creating
really
it's
providing
wraparound
services
and
creating
a
shelter
transitional
housing
shall
we
say
with
really
strong
supports
that
they
are
not
getting
any
other
source
of
funding
from
that
comes
out
of
their
out
of
their
own
resources.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
financial
equation.
From
that
standpoint,
too,
they're
making
a
pretty
major
commitment
to
services
as
a
part
of
this
agreement.
D
I
D
Yeah
and
I'm
happy
to
fun
this
that
you
know
we
can
finalize
the
the
number
as
we
discuss
this,
but
in
anticipation
of
other
worthy
projects
being
presented
to
us
yeah.
I
want
to
talk
about
our
approach
to
allocating
our
arpa
bucket
and
are
we
gonna?
Are
we
gonna
dull?
This
money
out
kind
of
on
a
first
come
first
serve
basis
or
we're
gonna
wait
until
we
have
a
bunch
of
applications
or
several
applications,
and
then
you
know
then
see
what
makes
sense.
I
D
N
Thank
you,
yeah
one.
I
would
and-
and
thank
you
monique
and
I
came
on
late,
so
I
I
think
there
are
other
representatives
from
the
ymca
on
the
call
so
welcome.
I
want
to
welcome
the
whole
ymca
team,
as
as
I've
noted
before
I'm
a
product
of
ymca
programming
went
to
the
what
we
call
the
the
small
ymca
and
the
big
ymca
went
to
both
programs
kept
camp,
echo
kids.
So
thanks
for
all
you
do
and
for
for
joining
the
call
this
evening.
N
Sarah,
just
to
you,
I
would
love
to
better
understand
to
have
a
breakdown
of
what
those
the
red
tape,
differences
between
davis,
bacon
and
the.
I
don't
know
what
we're
comparing
that
to,
but
the
arpa
guidelines
or
the
arpa
red
tape.
What
is
you
know
just
side
by
side,
davis,
bacon
versus
arbor
guidelines?
Let's,
let's
get
a
sense
of
or
cdbg.
I
can't
remember
if
we
were
comparing
davis
bacon
to
something
with
cdbg.
M
H
N
Either
in
a
an
email
to
all
the
committee
members,
so
we
can,
it
could
be
in
the
next
meeting
in
the
packet.
But
I'd
like
to
know
what
those
differences
are.
I
think
understanding
those
differences
and
see
really
having
all
of
us
take
a
look
at
it
to
see.
If
there's
any
opportunities
there
is
important.
So
I
would
like
to
to
see
that
and
from
from
my
from
what
I
remember,
the
the.
N
Committee
would
weigh
and
score
their
rubric
differently
than
this
committee
would,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
we
still
are
supposed
to
work
off
of
the
rubric
that
we
adopted
as
a
full
council,
and
so
I
would
you
know,
obviously
fully
full
transparency.
You
know
there
are
at
least
three
or
four
different
proposals
that
did.
N
N
A
N
I
don't
know
if
you
can
pull
it
up
for
everybody.
I
again
was
not
as
prepared
as
meetings
I
would
like
to
be,
or
I
would
have
had
it
up.
So
I
apologize,
but
we
again
the
if
you
pull
up
the
plan
that
we
passed.
There
was
a
rubric
in
there
and
that's
what
I
I
think
we
need
to
go
into
the
the
the
point
was
for
us
to,
as
a
committee
develop
how
we
would
weigh
each
category.
So
there.
N
At
how
much
funding
an
applicant
had
right,
what
are
your
just
resources
from
funding,
and
you
know
what
percentage
I
would
imagine
as
a
city
make
up
of
that
and
how
many
other
partners
sources
of
funds
do
you
have?
And
obviously
I
think
the
point
in
that
is
the
more
funding
you
have
from
other
partners.
The
higher
the
score
is
right,
like
that's
up
for
us
to
come
up
with
how
we
want
to
score
and
weigh
those
things,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
to
follow
the
adopted.
I
D
I
A
H
The
one
thing
I
was
just
gonna
say
and,
as
you
just
said,
I
was
not
part
of
figuring
out
that
rubric,
but
I
mean
I,
my
timing
may
be
off
on
this.
So
correct
me,
please
if
I'm
wrong,
but
my
sense
is
that
there
are
some
projects
we've
already
given
some
funding
to
through
these
sources.
I
actually
feel
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
the
idea
that
now
some
of
the
way
through
we're
gonna,
suddenly
ask
to
do
a
different
process
like
to
me.
H
It
seems
more
appropriate
to
start
that
at
a
fiscal
year
like
if
we're
already
doling
out
some
arpa
funds
or
funds
from
anywhere,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know,
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
with
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
change
tactics.
I
understand
that
might
be
helpful,
but
it
also
it
seems
a
little
bit
random,
even
though
it's
an
approach
to
try
to
make
things
less
random.
N
But
while
we
were
having
that
discussion,
there
were
at
least
you
know
two
or
three
requests
that
were
made
and-
and
you
know
it's
pretty
significant
lobbying
efforts
to
to
try
to
get
those
passed
than
they
were.
But
we
have
to
start
at
some
point
and
I
you
know,
I
think
we,
this
is
it's
it's
adopted.
Typically,
we
start
things
once
it's
adopted.
It's
adopted.
I
D
D
We
had
a
similar
kind
of
rubric
when
we
evaluated
aux
in
north
light
right,
as
I
recall,
our
actions
from
last
monday,
we
did
our
staff
did
run
both
hawks
and
through
the
approved
rubric
and
show
the
scores
that
had
not
come
through
committee,
but
at
least
they
ran
through
the
the
rubric
with
the
staff
driving
that
process.
Okay,.
H
H
The
sense
that,
on
not
all
projects,
have
equal
access
to
funding.
It
is
true
that
sro
projects
are
really
hard
to
fund.
No
one
wants
to
do
them,
and
so-
and
maybe
this
is
a
different
conversation,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about
what
sources
are
realistically
available
when
considering
where
the
city
can
and
can't
step
in
on
any
individual
project,
because
some
things
are
much
easier
to
fund
in
housing
and
some
things
are
much
less
right.
Easy
to
fund.
N
D
N
I
I
I
And
and
staff
would
be
happy
to
create
a
draft
version
for
housing
and
that's
something
I
actually
think
is
very
important
for
us
to
discuss
at
this,
because
even
our
housing
projects
aren't
always
going
to
be,
or
programs
aren't
going
to
really
fit
the
same
things.
So
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
get
the
the
rubric,
but
it
does
have
some.
It
does
have
things
that
are
very
important
in
it,
which
is
things
like
the
community
benefit
community
support
the
finances.
I
Is
it
transformative?
I
mean
it's
the?
Is
it
doing
something
that
and
can
it
be
sustained?
Those
are
also
things
that
we
had
in
some
of
the
commitment
in
in
the
rubric.
The
the
full
rubric
that
was
attached
had
again
had
so
many
things
in
it,
because
there
could
be
a
diff,
a
lot
of
different
factors
that
come
into
different
well
and.
K
H
You
know
my
only
familiar
with,
that
is
how
it
affects
the
type
of
people
you
can
hire
on
a
project
and
the
cost
sometimes
goes
up.
I
don't
know
if
there's
other
things,
but
if
a
project
feels
like
they
have
the
capacity
I
mean
who
feels
like
they
have
the
capacity
to
increase
the
cost
of
doing
their
project,
but
it
might
also
be
worth
a
conversation
with
whoever
is
applying
for
the
money
on
whether
or
not
they
feel
comfortable,
assuming
some
of
the
responsibilities
under
davis,
bacon.
G
No,
no,
no,
no
worries,
no
worries.
Your
questions
are
very
good
lauren.
I
have
a
question
and
it's
to
sarah.
We
have
you
have
mentioned
somewhere
here
in
our
documentation
for
this
meeting
tonight,
that
the
nsp2
leftovers
for
a
lack
of
a
better
term
is
going
to
be
reallocated
and
when
that
reallocation
happens,
would
that
go
into
something
similar
to
our
phone
cdbg
or
what
would
be
the
the
guidelines
for
the
use
of
that
money?
Can?
I
It
can
be
used
for
housing.
In
fact,
that's
what
we're
recommending
that
it
be
reallocated
too,
it
is
being
turned
into
cdbg
funding,
and
that
is
how
hud
closes
these
out.
The
nsp
program
was
designed
based
on
cdbg,
and
it
has
many
of
the
same
regulations,
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
won't
get
into
what
we
recommend
how
we
recommend
we're
reallocating
that
right
now
we'll
get
to
that
later,
but
it
it
would
have
the
same
issues
as
cdbg.
I
Our
housing
has
always
been
focused
on
rehab,
because
it's
there
are
very
rare
occasions
where
you
can
actually
construct
new
housing
with
cdbg,
but
for
the
most
part,
we've
used
it
for
small
scale.
Rehab
we
haven't
used
it
for
major
facilities.
We
did
we've
what
we've,
what
what
we've
used
it
for
is
deferred
maintenance
on
public
facilities
and
the
y
has
over
the
year
gotten
some
cdbg
we
used
it.
We
provided
cdbg
to
help
renovate
elevators,
for
example,
both
of
them.
I
We
also
have
put
some
but
very
limited
money
and
not
very
recently
into
the
residence
facility.
One
point:
we
replaced
all
the
lighting
in
the
hallways,
because
I
gotta
tell
you:
I
was
up
there,
it
needed
new
lighting
and
you
know
new
carpet,
but
it
was.
It
was
more
cosmetic
than
than
really
transformative,
although
we
did
improve
the
energy
efficiency
because
it
was
new
lighting,
but
we
could
even
look
at
cdbg
as
a
potential
layering
with
arpa,
but
cdbg
is
not
a
source
of
really
major
funding.
I
So
the
question
is:
do
we
just
over
complicate
things
by
putting
in
multiple
sources
and
putting
multiple
regulations
in
and
not
really
solve
a
problem
or
really?
But,
but
I
will
certainly
look
at
that.
Maybe
we
can
consider
you
know
whether
that
would
be,
and
I
can
certainly
give
more
specifics
about
what
the
challenges
are
to
using
each
one.
For
example,
you
have
to
do
a
much
more
complex.
You
don't
have
to
do
an
environmental
review
with
arpa
of
the
type
we
always
have
to
do
with
cdbg.
I
N
D
N
N
B
N
Feasibility
team
organization
and
capacity
budget
return
on
investment,
addresses,
inequities
and
equality,
inequality
and
then
community
support
and
then
for
each
of
those
six
criteria,
there's
a
description
that
gives
some
good
information
and
then
examples
so
under
under
budget.
It
says
under
description.
It
says
realistic
estimates
with
diverse
sources
of
funds
with
majority
of
funding
from
non-city
sources
and
then
under
example,
it
says
sources
of
funds,
less
than
25
city
funding,
realistic
estimates
based
on
current
market
conditions,
best
practices.
So
this
just
sounds
like
it's
a
little
bit
above
you
know
25
percent.
N
N
For
but
I
would
encourage
the
the
ymca
team
to
to
look
over
this
and
and
I'm
sure
sarah
will
send
it
to
you
and
then
I
think
from
here.
Well,
we,
this
is
pretty.
This
is
generic
enough
and
I
think
we
intended
it
to
be
that
way,
so
that
each
committee
could
add
things
to
this.
But
this
what
we
have
here
really
can
apply
to
every
committee
of
the
city,
and
it
was
it
was
designed
that
way.
I
believe
so.
I
just
wanted
to
run
there
by
everybody.
D
I
I
I
I
I
I
A
I
Sure
process
on
this
whole
thing,
I'm
sure
you
have
right,
yeah
and-
and
actually
this
rubric
was
put
together
by
paul
and
I
don't
believe
the
actual
participants
had
okay
any
weighing
in.
But
we
also
when
we
do
these
when
paul
and
I
have
done
them-
we
go
back
and
we
dig
through
the
all
of
the
input
from
the
community
and
various
other
things
that
we've
heard.
So
you
know
we're
not
just
completely
pulling
it
out
of
our
memories,
which
is
at
this
point.
A
Yeah,
well,
I
I
think
we've
had
a
pretty
thorough
discussion
and
we're
obviously
going
to
be
coming
back
to
this.
I
guess
at
our
next
meeting
I
haven't
said
much
yet
I
just
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
I
was
really
so
impressed
to
read
about.
I
hadn't
been
aware
of
the
case
management
wrap
around
services
that
that
are
now
being
provided
to
the
residents,
and
I
mean
that's
just
such
a
meaningful
addition
to
the
long-standing
program
that
you've
had
for
over
over
a
century.
A
I
guess
so
and
the
you
know
the
success
that
you've
already
had
in
moving
some
of
your
residents
into
permanent
housing.
I
think
I
think,
that's
just
very
exciting
and
when
I
look
at
the
plans
for
the
renovated
building,
it's
really
the
design
is
really
going
to
provide
some
really
important
dignity,
and
you
know
just
the
some
characteristics
to
the
living
arrangement
that
I
think
is
really
much
needed
and
really
so
important,
I
think
for
our
residents.
So
I'm
I'm
very
excited
about
the
project.
A
I'm
confident
that
we're
going
to
get
to
the
to
the
right
and
answer
with
some
more
discussion.
What
I
would
ask
sarah
is
what
I
did
is
I
looked
at
the
arpa
document
to
see
what
other
programs
have
been
kind
of
slotted
into
that
bucket
of
and
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
come
up
with
even
just
a
rough
idea
of
you
know
how
much
money
we
could
be
saving
for
some
of
these
other.
I
I
You
know
what
affordability
you
can
have
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
this
a
lot
too.
We
because
the
y
has
a
lot
more
change,
especially
with
their
what
their
new
programming,
which
is
not
to
make
it
people's
last
place,
they're
living,
but
to
get
move
them
on
we're
not
going
to
be
having
people
necessarily
who
are
staying
multiple
years
to
the
same
extent
that
you
do
in
more
traditional
home,
funded
housing
and
you're.
I
So
you're
the
flexibility
that
we
have-
and
I
do
want
to
note
that
without
any
operating
subsidies,
the
y
is
committing
to
all
of
the
units
being
under
80
percent
of
area
median,
but
with
a
significant
number
of
them,
the
largest
percentage
below
50
and
even
down
to
30
percent
of
area
median.
And
that
is
not
something
we
get
even
in
our
subsidized
housing
that
we
develop.
I
Rent
assistance-
you
know,
in
other
words
the
ann
rainey
apartments,
for
example,
of
the
60
units.
30
of
them
have
project-based
support,
which
makes
them
able
to
fund
those
lowest
income
residents.
So
it
it's
it's
quite
a
different
critter
and
clearly
there's
more
of
that
that
I
have
in
my
head
and
drilled
the
y
on
but
didn't
get
into
the
memo
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we'll
be
happy
to
try
to
explain
some
more
of
those
things
as
well.
Great.
A
L
M
M
K
J
J
I
J
A
A
C
925
and
29
cents
in
available
uncommitted,
home
entitlement
funds
and
this
funding
will
be
increased
to
the
200
000
spending
our
2022
home
grant,
and
we
expect
home
grant
amounts
by
entitlement
communities,
they're
expected
to
be
released
by
mid-may
of
this
year
and,
as
you
know,
the
2022
federal
consolidated
appropriations
act,
including
an
increase
to
the
home
allocation
from
the
2021
amount.
So
that's
very
good
news.
C
88
percent
of
families
started
new
jobs
or
maintained
their
jobs
and
100
of
the
51
children
in
the
program
have
advanced
on
to
the
next
grade
level.
So
it's
just
remarkable
that
a
stable
housing
is
giving
children
the
ability
to
study
and
they
all
passed
on
to
the
next
grade
level
and
41
of
families
served
maintain
or
increase
their
income,
while
in
the
program
and
some
secured
a
new
job
or
they
receive
training
for
a
new
field.
C
O
Great
hi
everyone,
I'm
jen,
foyer
crystal
it's
good
to
see
everyone's
faces
and
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
considering
our
proposal.
We
also
are
are
here
with
liz,
novak
and
jalissa
flores
singh
and
jonique
smith,
who
I
hope
now
is
a
panelist
as
well
and
I'll.
If
there's
any
questions
we'll
make
sure
the
question
gets
to
the
right
person,
but
I
just
wanted
to
simply
say
thank
you
so
much
for
this
funding.
O
We
were
able
to
extend
the
last
grant
we
got
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
were
able
to
extend
the
families
that
were
in
during
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
into
a
third
year,
and
five
of
the
families
did
take
the
extension.
There
were
two
that
moved
on
to
other
opportunities
and
and
then
we
this
will
give
a
chance
for
us
to
finish
out
other
families
that
we've
added
during
this
year
and
then
add
more
families
on.
A
N
Yeah,
thank
you
jim
for
being
here,
and
I
think
I
see
I
think
I
heard
betty
earlier.
If
I'm
not
mistaken
and
who
else
is
on
the
call,
I
see
sue,
I
see
nia
and
I'm
not
sure
if
adina
is
that
name
sounds
familiar,
but
I
don't
know
she's
with
connections
but
hello
to
the
connections
family.
So
how
many
the
last
I
don't
know
if
we're
calling
this
a
grant,
but
the
last
funding
the
city
approved
for
this
purpose.
How
much
was
that
again.
N
Okay
and
and
again
I
apologize-
I
was
not
able
to
prepare
for
this
meeting
as
as
much
as
I
would
like.
Full
transparency,
so
maybe
ask
some
questions
that
are
in
the
package,
but
I'll
be
very
quick
and
then
how
many
families
were
we
able
to?
Were
you
able
to
support
and
what
was
the
average
funding
amount.
O
O
There
were
seven
that
were
in
I'm
so
sorry
this
is.
My
child
has
not
been
down
here
for
an
hour
and
a
half
so
the
when
the
pandemic
started,
and
we
were
still
in
the
former
grant.
We
had
seven
families
in
and
we
offered
all
of
them
extensions
for
another
year
because
of
the
pandemic
and
five
of
them
accepted
the
extension.
The
other
two
had
you
know,
had
kind
of
moved
on
and
were
doing
okay,
and
then
we
added
four
more
families
with
this
fund
as
well.
O
O
The
spending
amounts
vary
per
family.
Sometimes
we
have
families
that
are
making.
You
know,
they're
working,
full-time
they're,
not
in
school
and
they're,
able
to
contribute
a
lot
more
towards
the
rent,
and
then
we
have
other
families
that,
where
we're
paying
a
large
portion
of
rent
for
a
while,
while
they're
in
school,
which
we
also
support
in
this
program.
Sorry,
all
the
members
that
I
interrupted.
K
In
terms
of
need-
and
I
think
we
included
this
in
the
application
we
submitted
to
the
city-
that
we've
got
an
eligibility
list-
that's
over
30
families
right
now,
who
we're
always
sort
of
screening
families
in
to
figure
out
who's,
got
kids
in
district
2
of
202
and
65,
and
then
keep
them
on
that
waitlist,
so
that
when
funding
does
open
up,
we've
got
a
queue
of
families
ready
to
go.
Also
knowing
that
often
that
this
doesn't
come
open
frequently
and
so
we're
trying
to
connect
families
to
other
resources
in
the
interim.
M
N
I
We
have
not
looked
at
supporting
it
through
arpa,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
could
use
arpa
and
do
a
huge,
a
big
bump
in
the
number
of
families
that
we
could
put
in
for
at
least
a
period
of
time,
but
we
wouldn't
be
able.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
sustain
it
and
there's
a
certain
question
of
how
much
we
can
bump
the
program
size,
because
that
also
affects
connections.
They
have
a
very
you
know
and
they've
been
very
flexible
in
expanding
to
meet
needs.
I
But
you
know
there's
a
point
where
we
we
could
not
necessarily
achieve
sustainable
long-term
goals
that
we
have
no
other
source
for.
So
it's
a
balancing
act.
Could
we
use
it
for
arpa?
Yes,
I
mean.
Could
we
use
arpa
for
rent
assistance,
programs
or
programs
like
this?
Yes,
technically
we
could.
But
we've
we
haven't,
brought
forward
that
as
a
use.
N
H
N
City
programs
that
have
worked-
and
I
think
the
way
to
narrow
it
is
again
we
know
the
program
exists.
They
have.
You
know
30
families
that
are
on
the
waiting
list.
What
does
it
look
like
to
to
clear
out
that
waiting
list,
at
least
for
at
least
to
provide
the
rental
assistance
for
one
month?
Two
months,
however,
the
program
works.
I
mean
back
of
the
napkin
estimate
that
might
be
around
six
hundred
thousand
to
do
that.
Back
of
the
napkin
I
might
be
off,
but
it
seems
like
a
dollar
amount.
That
is.
N
N
A
F
Thank
you,
councilmember
revell,
that
you
it's
like.
You
know
how
we
run
our
program.
In
fact,
our
case
manager
for
the
tiber
program.
Janik
smith,
is
here
with
us
tonight
and
just
so
you
all
have
some
context.
This
is
a
very
successful
program
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
we
provide
intensive
case
management
for
that
program.
F
No
city
funds
go
to
pay
for
that
intensive
case
management.
We
actually
are
leveraging
funds
in
from
the
state
and
federal
sources
to
bring
into
the
community
to
provide
those
services
and
what
we
feel
cautious
about
and
councilmember
burns.
I
love
your
enthusiasm
for
this
program
because
I
feel
it
too.
What
we
want
to
be
cautious
about
is
our
biggest.
We,
we
can't
just
staff
up
and
then
two
years
from
now,
like
staff
back
down,
that's
not
fair
to
our
staff.
We
don't
want
to
lure
people
away
for
some
kind
of
like
short-term
gig.
F
O
O
That's
really
been
disheartening
for
them,
and
you
know
the
24
months
is
where
what
we
need,
and
sometimes
even
more
so,
but
I
think
alderman
burns
like
yours
is
right
in
line
with
what
we
do
with
prevention,
so
we
make
sure
nobody
falls
through
the
cracks
when
in
those
situations
either
when
they
just
need
a
month
or
two
of
support
and
we're
making
sure
to
gear
them
to
the
right
program.
So
this
one
we
see
for
people
that
are
employable
and
self-sufficient,
but
do
need
that
longer-term
subsidy.
F
But
thank
you
so
much.
I
would
love
to
have
more
conversations
about
how
this
program
could
work
in
expansion
council
member
burns.
I
love
like
that
sort
of
entrepreneurial
thinking
that
you're
bringing
to
this.
It's
really
important
and
you're
absolutely
right.
The
equity
that
is
that
goes
unaddressed
when
we
have
folks
on
waiting
list
is
profound
and
I
don't
want
to
sound
reticent.
I
just
want
to
be
planful
and
thoughtful
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing
by
everybody
in
the
community.
N
F
I
I
I'd
also
like
to
see
what
our
home
grant
actually
comes
in
at
because
we
may
be
able
to
allocate
more
money
from
that.
If
we
get
an
increase,
we
have
right
now
our
expected
home
amount
split
between
bricks
and
sticks,
which
means
we
expect
we'll
put
something
into
new
housing
development
or
some
you
know,
and
then
tibra
that's
pretty
much.
I
We
how
we
have
it
allocated
in
our
draft
action
plan,
but
of
course
that
can
be
amended
and
changed
if
we
decide
we
want
to
use
the
money
differently
because
of
the
different
needs
and
the
different
ways
that
they
can
can
be
used,
because
arpa
does
have
far
more
flexibility
than
home.
That's
for
sure,
so
all
of
those
things
are
possible.
I
It's
not
going
to
be
immediate.
We
know,
and-
and
we've
worked
very
hard
to
try
to
keep
from
having
families
left
without
resources,
which
is
why
we
in
many
cases
we
have
one
or
two
families
that
get
an
extension,
but
not
all
of
them,
and
so
you
know
it's
it's.
It's
we'd
be
happy
to
work
on
that
with
connections
and
just
come
back
at
some
point.
You
know
with
you
know
later
in
the
year
with
how
that
might
be
done.
I
N
N
I
know
somebody
specifically
that
reached
out
whose
family
member
was
a
was
a
victim
in
a
in
an
incident
here
in
evanston
was
in
the
hospital
and
his
situation
is
he
has
to
be
by
our
bedside,
so
he
could
no
longer
work
and
he
doesn't
know
how
he's
going
to
pay
rent.
So
he
has
to
choose
between
being
by
his
child's
bedside
to
support
the
child
or
going
back
to
work
right
and
so
yeah.
N
Of
course
you
you
would
want
six
months
if
you
can
get
it,
but
even
a
month,
even
two
months
can
make
all
the
difference
in
these
situations,
and
so
I
don't
think
later
this
year
is
sufficient.
Certainly
if
connections
doesn't
feel
like
an
expanded
program
in
any
way
that
that
would
make
arpa
funds
useful.
That's
one
thing,
but
if
there's
a
way
to
to
help
those
families
again,
I
think
that
is
squarely.
What
arpa
is
meant
to
do
and
and
it
again
it
it
it
may
not.
N
I
To
be
sensitive,
there
is
still
some
short-term
assistance
that
the
cities
hasn't
has
given.
Connections
to
work
with,
that
is,
rent
assistance
with
the
cdbgcv
funding
that
hasn't
been
exhausted
yet
too.
So
it's
not
that
there's
nothing.
I
I
think
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
to
expand
the
tebra
program.
I
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
we
don't
fund
as
much
as
we
thought
we
might
through
the
social
services
core
committee,
because
in
this
case
connections
is
providing
that
for
those
families
and
we're
providing
housing.
But
I
you
know
we're
not
saying
there
are
no
resources
for
people
who
can
and
people
can
get
some
short-term
subsidies,
but
I
do
think
that
we.
F
F
F
In
the
pot
long
and
short
term,
we
have
completely
gone
through
all
of
our
emergency
rental
assistance
money.
We
ran
out
of
that
provided
by
arpa
provided
by
the
state
we
ran
out
of
that
in
january
and
we're
turning
people
away
all
the
time.
So
we
need
rental
assistance
in
every
possible
configuration
to
help
these
households
who
really
they
will
be
evicted.
They
will
end
up
in
our
shelter
system,
it's
extraordinarily
expensive
to
help
them
there,
even
though
that's
less
expensive
than
having
them
end
up
on
the
street.
I
N
I
K
N
G
N
Gets
back
to
me,
so
it's
it
it's
you
know
we
can.
We
can
talk,
discuss
this
on
committees
and
leave
here,
and
that
is,
though,
money's
out
there
that's
not
or
money's
out
there
that
is
hard
to
qualify
for,
but
it
will
get
back
to
me
because
they
know
that
they're
going
to
run
into
it
they're
going
to
apply
and
they
they
will
be
told,
they're
not
eligible,
and
then
they
get
upset
because
I
sent
them
in
so
I
just
I
want
to
be
very.
I
B
N
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
I'll,
let
I
think
you're,
you
know.
I
trust
you.
Sarah
and
connection
should
come
back
with
something
that
makes
sense,
but
I
guess
just
what
I
want
to
underscore
is
you
know
we
have
horrible
money.
Obviously,
that
is
a
lot
more
flexible
and
the
way
I
understand
it
than
some
of
our
other
funds.
We
have
existing
programming,
we're
approving
one.
You
know
funds.
N
And
I
just
want
to
see
if
we
can,
you
know,
add
a
few
more
dollars
to
what
we're
already
doing
to
to
make
a
greater
impact,
and
I'm
just
saying
it
should
be
sooner
than
later,
because
a
christ,
the
emergencies
are
happening
now.
The
only
the
reason
why
I
reiterate
at
this
point
is
because
you
mentioned
later
on
in
the
year,
and
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
know
exactly
when
that.
What
that
looks
like,
but
the
30.
F
We
do
have
additional
capacity
for
some
additional
rental
assistance
if
that
is
available
in
the
form
of
tibra,
without
having
to
like
up
staff,
janik
loves
helping
some
tumor
families,
and
so
we
we
can,
we
could
absorb.
Like
I
said
we
were
operating
at
a
300
000
level
a
couple
of
years
ago.
We
can
absolutely
manage
that
again.
I
Yeah
and
part
of
the
reasons
we
we
were
using
more
tibro
was
we
had
a
lack
of
fundable
projects.
We
weren't
doing
bricks
and
sticks
projects
in
some
years
at
all.
We
tend
to
do
that
in
large,
lumps
but
we'll
work
with
connections
and
and
really
look
at
whether
it's
a
tibra
type
thing,
which
is
a
longer
commitment
or
that
and
a
balance
of
some
shorter
term
as
well
and
come
back
with
the
recommendation,
I
don't
know-
or
I
don't
know
that
we
can
do
that
for
the
next
meeting.
I
I
A
Okay,
so
then
so
for
tonight,
then
we
have
before
us
the
motion
to
approve
up
to
200
000
for
the
renewal
funding
for
the
tibor
program
and-
and
the
idea
is
that
sarah
and
staff
and
connections
will
come
back
to
us
with
an
idea
for
additional
possible
additional
funding
to
help
more
people
who
are
on
the
waiting
list
or
in
in
need
of
rental
assistance,
but
so
for
tonight,
though,
we're
voting
on
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
tbr
renewal.
So
could
we
have
a
roll
call
on
that?
A
D
B
A
I
A
Okay,
great,
okay,
well,
thank
you
and
to
be
continued.
Obviously,
all
right.
Our
next
item,
I
need
someone
to
make
a
motion
to
transfer
the
remaining
unobligated
program,
income
from
the
nsp2
grant
in
the
amount
of
145
591
dollars
and
50
cents
to
the
city's
cdbg
program,
as
directed
by
hud,
so
moved
and
a
second
second,
thank
you.
I
A
bookcasing
at
one
point
they
were
saying
you
can
hold
on
to
your
nsp
program
income
and
use
it
as
nsp,
and
then
they
were
like.
We
have
all
these
huge
grants.
We've
got
these
grants
out
there.
We
want
to
close
them
out,
and
so
for
those
of
us
who
are
entitlement
communities
and
have
cdbg,
they
are
closing
it
out
by
moving
it
to
cdbg
program
income.
I
Now
there
are
some
things
that
I'm
just
finding
out,
because
I
put
in
the
memo
we
didn't
know
if
we
were
going
to
amend
the
2021
action
plan
or
the
2022
action
plan,
and
when
I
asked
hud
what
we
were
supposed
to
do,
they
said
didn't
think
about
that,
because
our
2022
action
plan
is
in
draft
form
and
we'll
be
in
draft
form
till
we
get
our
2022
funding
amount,
and
then
we
make
those
tweaks.
So
that's
kind
of
premature
and
might
get
bollocksed
up
in
their
paperwork,
so
they
are
now
recommending.
K
I
I
I
I
What
hud
will
do
is
they
will
make
the
transfer
regardless,
and
then
we
actually
have
longer
time
to
work
on
the
we.
I
just
have
to
give
them
what
a
draft
amendment
is
and
how
we
plan
to
use
the
funds,
and
we
can
then
change
it.
If
we
have
other
considerations,
they
just
have
to
have
something
in
hand.
When
I
submit
this
lovely
form
requesting
the
transfer.
B
A
D
B
D
C
H
A
B
A
C
F
B
B
E
Right-
and
I
can
I
can
give
a
very
quick
update
as
far
as
what
this
amendment
is:
we're
not
changing
the
spirit
of
the
rules
or
anything
like
that.
It's
just
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
that
the
original
intent
wasn't
extremely
clear,
and
so
we
worked
with
legal
to
make
sure
that
the
rules
were
actually
reflecting.
What
we
were
hoping
to
happen,
which
is
what
was
happening
in
the
past
as
well,
meaning
not
require
motion
for
every
single
item
and
making
sure
that
the
meeting
is
running
smoothly.
So
there
there's
no
actual
change.
I
B
A
A
E
Okay,
yes,
and
can
you
guys,
can
you
all
see
my
screen?
Yes,
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
run
for
this
very
quickly.
Okay,
it's
late!
We
have
three
updates
around
our
different
task
force
and
projects
the
one-stop
shop
retrofit.
We
are
happy
to
share
that.
We
received
500
thousand
dollars
of
congressional
earmark
that
have
been
secured
for
low-income,
solar,
so
we're
considering
with
cara
how
to
potentially
include
that
money
into
this
program
and
there's
an
additional
two
million
dollars.
E
That's
been
applied
for
through
the
offices
of
representative
tchaikovsky
and
senator
duckworth.
We
got
our
first
meeting
with
elevate
and
cnt
to
review
their
proposal
and
how
we
could
move
forward.
That's
including
budgeting
as
well
we're
supposed
to
get
a
second
draft
and
we're
targeting
next
month's
meeting
to
see
if
we'll
ideally
be
ready
for
request
for
funding
on
this.
I
D
N
C
N
I
We're
we
have
to
find
that
out.
Cara
just
got
an
email
from
epa
about
the
grant,
more
information
on
the
grant.
Really,
all
we
know
so
far
is
we
got
500
000,
so
we're
just
starting
to
find
that
out
we'll
piece
it
together,
hopefully
by
the
the
17th
and
have
some
real
information
for
you
on
that
thanks,
okay,.
N
I
N
D
E
So
the
last
update
is
around
the
landlord's
tenant
services
survey.
The
task
force
met
a
few
times
and
we
had
made
some
really
good
progress
as
far
as
getting
an
agreement
and
a
plan
together
around
how
to
structure
the
surveys
and
how
to
put
them
in
place,
starting
with
one
short
survey
right
after
initial
contact
and
a
more
general
satisfaction
survey
for
the
six
weeks
post,
the
initial
contact.
E
Unfortunately,
once
we
started
working
around
the
even
just
a
simple
short
survey,
which
I
was
expecting
to
be
an
easy
implementation,
we've
run
into
some
complicated
implementation.
There's
it's
a
very,
very
manual
process,
there's
no
way
to
get
any
kind
of
contact
information
to
be
able
to
even
dump
in
this
third-party
survey
software
or
anything
like
that.
So
it's
really
one
email
at
a
time
into
one
survey.
E
At
a
time
sending
it
extremely
manual,
we've
talked
with
the
teams
to
see
if
there
was
any
potential
for
improvement,
they're
actually
working
on
rfp
for
a
different
tool,
which
is
great
news.
The
only
thing
is
that
neutral
needs
to
be
selected
and
then
implemented
before
we
can
even
get
to
our
kind
of
higher
level
implementation,
meaning
a
survey
which
would
be
not
their
first
primary
priority.
E
So
right
now,
where
we're
at
is
kind
of
at
a
standstill,
we
don't
have
them
on
power
to
be
able
to
run
the
survey
in
that
very
manual
process.
The
satisfaction
survey
may
be
a
potential
option.
It's
also
going
to
run
into
the
same
technology
issue
and
it's
going
to
require
a
lot
more
coordination
with
other
teams
in
other
department,
because
it's
a
much
bigger
ask
and
it's
a
little
bit
more
planning
than
just
a
one
question
survey
about
timeliness.
E
G
N
N
Okay
and-
and
I
know
you're
gonna-
have
this
discussion
at
the
next
meeting,
but
I
I
want
to
I've
mentioned
this
before
that.
You
know.
I
really
think
it's
either
being
very
careful
with
what
you
know.
The
small
landlord
definition
is
or
expanding
this
to
support
small
to
mid-sized
landlords,
and-
and
you
know
we
can
I've
heard
what
was
it.
N
Somebody
used
the
other
day
of
vulnerability,
something
can
be
used
or
what
was
that
council's
memory,
where
we
heard
that
it's
some
vulnerability
index,
I
think
this
could
potentially
be
used
or
other
you
know
different
other
expressions
or
whatever
of
hardship
or
proof
of
hardship.
But
I
I
really
think
it's
important.
N
So
there's
low
interest
loans
and
other
programs
that
they're
eligible
for
that
small
to
mid-sized
landlords
are
not,
and
so
I
just
I
don't
want
to
quickly.
You
know,
rule
out,
mid-size
landlords
or
or
larger
smaller
landlords
so
quickly.
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
how
we
go
about
that.
So
I'll.
Add
that
as
a
note
and-
and
I
have
the
date
so
april
27th,
so
I
can
share
that
out
with
the
community.
I
N
And
then
I
think
at
that
first
meeting
it
was
determined
that
it
was.
We
were
going
to
do
a
survey
instead
of
including
land.
I
I
had
been
telling
landlords
that
they
were
going
to
be
included
in
the
working
group
that
there
was
that
they
would
be
included
in
the
meetings
I
didn't
know.
You
were
gonna
that
the
there
was
gonna
be
a
survey
instead,
and
so
that's
what
I
mean
is
just
the
landlords
want
to
keep
track
of
when
the
working
group
is
meeting
and
when
the
survey
will
be
released,
et
cetera.
N
So
that's
what
I
mean
I
wanted
to
share
this
information
with
them
not
to
join,
but
just
to
be
aware
of
what
things
are
happening,
but
also
another
question
is
and
this
this
landlord
asked
me
this
is
the
plan
to
share
the
survey
out
through
mail
or
just
through
email?
Have?
Has
the
working
group
considered
that
at
all.
C
N
Yeah,
I
would
say
especially
for
this
survey,
because
we
have
you
know
rental
registration.
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
to
mail
it
out,
so
we
can
get
the
make
sure
we
get
the
you
know
as
much
participation
as
possible
and-
and
we
have
you
know,
we
know
where
they
live
at
least
for
the
landlords
that
are
registered.
So
I
think
that's
hopefully
is.
It
is
something
that
we're
able
to
do
and
then
the
the
survey
last
point
on
the
survey.
I
am
I'm
in
communication
with
luke
show.
N
I
I
think
this
is
something
that
should
be
a
priority
for
them,
as
the
different
departments
evaluate
different
software,
and
I
know
they're
in
the
later
stages
of
that
rfp
process,
which
complicates
things,
but
I
I
don't.
I
think
it
concerns
me
that
we
may
miss
an
opportunity
because
we
don't
want
to
add
something
late
in
the
game,
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
this.
N
This
is
important
because
it's
it's
where
the
community
comes
in
ties
into
a
lot
of
these
decisions,
and
so
I
am
talking
to
luke
so
I'll,
be
talking
to
city
manager
gandurski
tomorrow
about
it
again.
I
think
it's
it's
important
that
this
is
a
priority
and
that
we
select
the
final
softwares
for
each
department
based
on
their
ability
to
to
survey
the
community
so
I'll
you
know,
rep,
that's
an
advocacy,
obviously,
as
an
elected
official
I
I'm
able
to
do.
N
E
A
Okay,
all
righty.
Well,
thank
you
staff
for
this
update
about.
You
are
all
so
busy.
This
is
it's
very.
It's
really
good.
I
mean
there's,
obviously
a
lot
to
do
and
you
are
you
are
on
it.
So
with
that,
I'm
just
going
to
mention
that
our
next
committee
meeting
is
may
17th
and
we
have
gotten
through
our
agenda,
so
I
am
going
to
consider
it
call
us
adjourned
so
good
night.
Everybody-
and
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.