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From YouTube: Housing & Community Development Committee 02/21/2023
Description
The Housing & Community Development Committee discussed potential changes to the City’s Landlord Tenant Ordinance, Inclusionary Housing Ordinance (IHO) Review and Updates, Vote to Approve the 5th ward Alley Paving Selection, Metropolitan Tenants Organization (MTO) Annual Report, and the Community Partners for Affordable Housing (CPAH) Annual Report.
More information, agenda, and packets are available on the Committee's webpage: https://www.cityofevanston.org/government/housing-community-development-committee
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A
Would
be
great,
so
everybody
we
have
on
this
call
tonight:
Lindsey
Wade.
She
is
the
newest
team,
member
of
the
housing
and
Grant
team
she's
joining
us
as
the
housing
and
economic
development
analyst.
She
is
essentially
backfilling
my
previous
role
and
will
be
handling
most
mostly
handling
the
cdbg
grant,
as
well
as
other
projects.
She's
been
with
her
team
for
I.
Believe
three
weeks
now,
and
we
are
very
excited
that
she
is
joining
us
yeah.
J
I
E
G
I
E
A
Actually,
we
have
a
few
more
since
allies.
Give
you
an
update.
We
have
six
people
sign
up
so
far.
If
anybody
else
would
like
to
provide
public
comment,
please
raise
your
hand
with
the
icon
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
and
we'll
let
you
provide
public
comments.
The
first
person
is
Jacqueline
zard,
Korea
and.
K
Hi
I
actually
submitted
a
written
comment,
although
I'm
happy
to
read
them,
if
you
guys
can
get
them,
I
had
two
primary
suggestions
both
around
the
Edinson
rlpo
suggestions.
Okay,
so,
like
I
said,
my
name
is
Jacqueline
Court,
actually
with
my
one-year-old
with
me.
So
if
you
hear
a
baby,
that
is
why
well
so
I
work
she's
waving,
I
work
at
the
network.
The
network
is
a
collaborative
membership
dedicated
to
improving
the
lives
of
those
impacted
by
gender-based
violence.
K
There's
two
changes
that
I'm
proposing
the
first
one
is
a
change
to
the
rental
agreement,
prohibitions
in
the
ordinance
and
for
that
one
I'm,
proposing
that
Evanston
prohibits
that
a
rental
agreement
that
limits
a
tenant's
right
to
contact,
law
enforcement
or
emergency
assistance,
or
any
agreement
that
creates
penalty
for
attendance
for
contacting
law
enforcement
or
emergency
assistance.
That
change
is
consistent
with
the
new
changes
under
the
violence
against
women
act.
The
reauthorization
2022.
K
It's
also
consistent
in
to
be
clear
that
change
under
the
violence
against
women
act
covers
all
of
Evanston
because
it
receives
funding
from
the
Community
Development
block
grant.
That
change
would
also
be
consistent
with
Illinois
Public
Act
0990441,
which
is
a
similar
protection
around
crime-free
ordinances
and
being
allowed
to
contact
the
police
and
emergency
services.
K
However,
there's
often
retaliation
months
that
happens
a
lot
of
times
security
deposits
aren't
returned
after
someone
terminates
their
lease,
even
though
it's
a
lawful
termination
I
also
see
termination
of
tenancy
non-renewal
of
lease
after
you,
after
someone
requests
for
a
lock
change,
so
those
types
of
actions
are
directly
adverse.
The
purpose
of
the
safe
homes
act,
but
it
also
causes
survives
of
gender-based
violence
to
experience
economic
distress
when
trying
to
leave
violent
situations.
K
K
A
A
We
have
Sharon
cargile,
who
thinks
that
tenants
should
have
a
longer
term
residency
tenant
that
have
a
longer
term.
Residency
deserve
to
have
more
time
to
move
or
adjust
if
their
lease
is
not
renewed.
30
days
notice
for
our
long-term
tenant
is
not
enough
time.
In
today's
housing
market
we
have
CJ
O'hara
that
is
supporting
giving
more
time
for
longer
term
resident
to
move
and
also
moving
assistance,
if
needed
for
a
shorter
time
to
move
when
the
lease
is
not
renewed.
30
days
is
outdated
and
does
not
help
the
community
at
large
very
much.
A
L
Good
evening,
members
of
the
Housing
Commission
have
three
concerns
that
I
want
to
identify
your
deliberations.
One
and
more
important
I
do
not
see
my
alley
listed
in
the
1800
block
on
Daryl
for
repairs.
You
tore
my
alley
up
in
September.
You
did
not
contact
me
about
any
kinds
of
further
work,
there's
some
kind
of
problem.
What
you
said
that
you
don't
have
permission
from
ComEd
to
complete
the
work
and
then
the
subsequent
of
putting
blacktop
down
rather
than
concrete
alley,
which
I
haven't
seen
any
other
alley
in
Everson
with
that
kind.
L
Right
now,
as
I
go
out
to
pull
my
garbage
cans
out,
I
have
to
pull
them
through
about
ankle,
deep
water.
That's
behind
my
property
and
I've,
consistently
called
the
city
about
this
problem
that
has
not
been
adjusted.
The
alley
was
supposed
to
have
been
one
of
the
alleys
that
were
paved
under
the
transfer
station
settlement,
you've
gotten
all
the
hours
within
the
block
of
my
house.
You
have
not
made
any
plans,
it's
not
on
the
record
day
to
complete
the
construction
or
Paving
of
my
alley.
L
Secondly,
I
was
very
concerned
that
you,
members
of
a
committee,
would
afford
four
million
dollars
to
a
proposed
development
that
has
not
passed
the
planned
commission
or
even
under
the
city
council
I.
Think
it's
premature
and
you
should
be
very,
very
deliberate
about
giving
developers
money
to
assist
them
in
projects
that
they
don't
have
the
resources
of
themselves,
relying
on
government
funds
and
relying
on
our
city
to
experience
money
for
their
own
developments
and
third
and
most
important.
L
L
Like
me
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
maintain
our
properties
but
get
no
support
from
these
agencies
when
they
destroy
our
property,
bring
in
bed
bugs,
and
then
you
get
on
us
about
not
giving
them
notice
and
not
giving
them
their
security
deposits
back
I
think
you
should
bring
more
balance
into
this
discussion
and
you
should
eliminate
small
landlords
and
have
a
maximum
number
of
units
before
you
even
start
discussing
these
new
laws
that
apply
to
landlords.
Thank
you
thank.
M
M
The
new
landlord
tenant
ordinance
only
benefits
the
tenant
to
me.
You
should
not
vote
if
you
are
not
or
never
have
been,
a
landlord
that
rents
to
HUD
tenants
now,
I,
don't
know
the
some
of
you
very
well.
I
do
know
that
Joanne
Salome
at
one
time
had
has
or
has
had
rental
property,
and
she
would
rent
two
HUD
tenants.
So
she
may
speak
about
her
experiences.
M
You
do
not
understand
my
plight.
If
you
have
not
been
in
my
situation,
why
aren't
the
tenants
required
to
possess
renters
insurance
I
spoke
with
Ike
ogbo
and
he
feels
same
way.
I
was
at
the
fire
that
occurred
a
couple
of
months
ago
or
maybe,
a
month
ago,
on
Emerson
Street
and
the
Tenant
said
he
was
smoking
weed
and
he
dropped
his
incense
and
that's
why
the
place
was
on
fire
now
that
landlord
is
without
an
apartment
or
income,
and
we
have
to
put
that
on
our
insurance.
M
When
is
it
the
tenants
responsible?
It's
always
the
tenant,
the
poor
tenant
this
and
that,
while
they're
burning
out
our
place
tearing
up
our
units-
and
we
don't
get
help,
what
about
the
penalty
to
the
tenant?
I
have
a
building.
That's
non-smoking
and
the
Tenant
still
smokes
and
the
agency,
the
city
and
the
Tenant
swear.
It's
not
happening,
and
it
happens
all
the
time
and
get
penalized
they
bring
in
pets.
I
have
a
no
pet
policy.
Do
they
get
penalized?
M
M
I
had
a
shooting
at
my
building
and
a
chair
Ravel
knows
about
it.
No
one
has
stood
up
and
said
anything
about
it.
The
mayor
promised
me
help.
I
have
gone
all
over
the
city
for
help
and
I
don't
get
anything.
I
have
an
empty
building,
because
I
have
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
Damages
and
this
little
fund
you're
talking
about
helping
tenants
with
damages.
Well,
let's
start
with
me
write
me
a
check
for
fifty
thousand
dollars.
I
bet
you
won't
do
that,
and
what
about
retaliation?
I
heard
the
person
talk
about
it?
M
M
What
about
the
10
days
notice
doesn't
Chicago,
have
a
five-day
notice
and
you're,
saying
you're,
copying
them
and
so
forth.
These
are
just
outrageous
and
you're
sitting
up
here
and
if
you
have
not
ever
rented
your
place
to
hunt
tenants,
then
you
should
not
be
voting
on
anything.
You
sit
here
and
make
these
laws
and
you
want
us
to
follow
them
and
you're,
not
putting
any
penalty
on
the
tenant.
M
How
do
you
think
that
you're
going
to
get
more
affordable
units
by
making
more
rules
for
the
landlord
that
you
have
lost
a
lot
of
landlords?
Small
landlords
like
myself,
who
have
been
providing
units
for
over
50
years,
hundreds
of
families
on
HUD
connections
for
the
homeless,
Section
8
Center
of
Concern
Catholic
Charities
trilogy?
M
Who
do
you
have
right
now,
luxury
housing
at
50
m
Ami?
They
don't
even
have
to
take
these
programs,
so
I
suggest
you
consult
someone
who
is
actually
trying
to
do
something
in
this
community.
Like
landlords
like
me
before,
you
start
passing
judgment
and
rules
for
us
to
follow,
because
soon
you
will
not
have
anybody
taking
these
programs.
Thank
you.
E
N
N
You
chair
and
so
I
sent
Carlos
you
an
email
back
on
December
13
2022.
If
I
need
a
a
different
email,
please
send
it
to
me,
but
I
said
we
were
just
told
by
Laura
Biggs.
This
was
after
you
hopped
off
the
call
during
the
AC
DC
committee
that
there
is
a
construction
delay
on
the
Alley
by
your
home
because
of
an
unforeseen
issue
that
ComEd
is
addressing
due
to
that
unforeseen
event
and
supply
chain
issues
affecting
material
availability.
Construction
will
resume
in
the
spring.
N
Laura
said
that
the
stat
that
staff
will
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
where
to
put
their
garbage
cans
and
that
the
alley
is
cleared
out
Laura,
please
correct
correct
any
errors
that
I've
made
I
work
with
staff
to
send
a
comprehensive
update
out
to
you
and
the
resident
shortly.
Thanks
for
your
patience-
and
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
additional
questions
or
concerns
so
Carlos
I
sent
that
to
you
December,
13,
2022
and
then
on
December
30th
I
sent
the
follow-up
to
staff.
Saying
you
know.
N
E
A
E
Great
thanks,
okay!
Well,
we
have
several
meaty
discussions
ahead
of
us
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
to
talk
about
potential
changes
to
our
landlord
tenants,
ordinance
and
they're
they're
sort
of
two
parts
to
the
discussion.
One
is
sort
of
a
a
list
of
about
10
changes
that
we
could
make.
That
would
be
relatively
straightforward.
E
They
Echo
changes
that
I
guess
have
been
made,
for
example
in
Chicago,
and
then
there's
some
then
there's
a
series
of
oh
good.
Here
we
go
a
series
of
basically
new
types
of
changes
that
we
could
make
to
our
ordinance.
That
I
think
are
going
to
Warrant
more
in-depth
discussion
from
us,
so
staff.
Why
don't
I
turn
it
over
to
you
sure.
A
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
Lindsay's
going
to
give
a
quick
update,
because
a
lot
of
this
information
is
already
on
the
memo,
but
we
also
have
Jonathan
raffert
Springer
from
the
Law
Center
for
better
housing
that
is
in
the
audience.
Currently.
That
is
here
to
support
our
provide
any
kind
of
deeper
context
on
some
of
the
question
that
might
be
a
little
more
complex
and
I
believe
dumb
Vaz
from
open
communities
may
I
be
able
to
may
have
been
able
to
make
it.
A
He
was
planning
on
joining
but
had
some
challenges.
He
is
the
associate
director
of
fair
housing
at
open
communities
and
also
able
to
jump
in
for
deeper
context.
If
there's
some
of
the
conversation
points
from
the
committee
that
need
a
little
bit
more
feedback
or
input
from
those
two
organizations,
Lindsay
I,
think.
A
H
Can
go
ahead,
hi
everybody
in
case
you
missed
me
earlier:
I'm,
Lindsay,
Waid,
I'm,
the
new
housing
and
economic
development
analyst
with
the
housing
and
grants
team
and
I'm
going
on
my
fourth
week
as
a
part
of
this
team,
and
it's
going
great
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
fun
fun.
Working
on
this
too
much
working
on
this
project
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
H
In
addition
to
these
things,
we
are
also
asking
you
guys
to
consider
looking
into
a
low
barrier
compliant
tenant
screening,
which
is
basically
just
making
the
screening
process
for
tenants
easier
to
comply
with
since
Cook
County
updated.
It's
just
housing,
ordinance,
I'm,
looking
into
a
landlord
mitigation
fund,
First
Rate
of
refusal
and
right
to
organize.
H
So
we
took
a
look
at
the
city
of
evanston's
current
lto
regulations
that
we
have
on
residential
Condominiums,
the
fair
housing
ordinance
that
we
updated
recently
evanston's
model
lease
and
our
nuisance
ordinance
and
compared
it
to
that
of
cook
County's
Roto
that
they
recently
updated.
The
city
of
Chicago's
rlto,
which
was
also
recently
updated,
and
the
proposed
City
of
Chicago
just
cause
ordinance,
and
that
is
how
we
developed
the
memo
that
we
sent
out
to
you
guys,
foreign.
B
My
initial
question
was:
if
we
could
ask
questions
during
the
presentation
or
wait
till
the
end
I
guess
we
waited
until
the
end.
So
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
document
that
we
received-
we
didn't
receive
it
until
Friday
evening
and
I
had
a
pretty
full
house
weekend
and
today,
I
was
at
a
class
for
six
hours
is
still
trying
to
do.
B
Her
comment
to
our
meeting
from
last
week,
most
from
last
month,
mostly
but
to
the
Chicago
to
the
landlord
tenant
ordinance
for
Evanston
and
I.
I.
Think
that
you
know
I
part
of
me
is
telling
me
that
tenants
deserve
a
better
treatment
because
they
have
not
been
treated
well
historically
in
urban
areas
and
I.
Don't
know
anything
about
rural
areas.
So
I
speak
to
what
I
have
witness
in
the
past,
but
I
think
that
now,
like
every
correction,
it
tends
to
bring
the
pendulum
way
to
the
other
side.
B
I
agree
with
what
Tina
said
in
terms
of
we
don't
have
a
requirement
for
tenants
to
have
renters
insurance,
so
in
other
words,
we
instead
of
going
from
item
to
item
I,
would
say
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
more
input
from
the
landlord
side.
There
are
two
parties
to
this
to
this
ordinance
and
one
is
tenants
and
the
other
one
is
landlords
and
it
seems
to
be
to
me
very
lopsided.
I
am
all
pro
protecting
the
rights
of
human
beings
in
general.
B
It
doesn't
matter
what
the
situation
is,
but
it
seems
like
he's
taking
away
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
protections
that
landlords
also
need
in
order
to
be
in
a
healthy
relationship
with
tenants.
There
are
two
sides
and
I'm
all
for
protecting
the
tenant,
but
it's
also
unfair
to
say
ten
dollars
on
a
late
fee
when
that
ten
dollars
is
gonna,
translate
for
that
lender
to
fall
behind
on
their
mortgage
and
I
guarantee.
You
100
that
that
is
not
it's
not
going
to
be
a
ten
dollar
fee
from
their
bank.
B
That's
holding
their
mortgage.
That's
just
once
one
instance
of
what
I
see
here
and
I
wonder
the
the
organizations
that
Lindsay
quoted
that
have
participated
into
this
sounded
to
me
that
they
were
predominantly
tenant.
Organizations
and
I
have
not
heard
that
there
are
landlord
organizations
that
are
also
present
at
this
conversations.
So
I
think
that
we
owe
it
to
the
population
of
Evans.
B
A
Yeah
I
definitely
want
to
respond
to
that,
because
I
fully
agree
that
this
is
meant
to
be
a
conversation
and
includes
all
parties,
so
we're
coming
to
the
committee
with
a
list
of
kind
of
a
grab
bag
or
list
of
items
that
could
be
considered
from
the
tenant
perspective.
Look
organization
that
provided
from
the
research
that
we've
done
as
far
as
what
exists
in
the
local
landscape
as
well
as
outside
of
just
locally.
A
This
is
this
initial
conversation
is
meant
to
kind
of
give
us
an
initial
Direction,
so
that
then
we
can
really
start
conversation
a
little
bit
deeper,
a
little
bit
more
focused,
and
we
absolutely
intend
to
have
focus
group
and
conversation
with
landlords
and
involve
landlords
that
are
a
key
part
of
the
success
of
an
update
like
that
in
the
next
couple
months.
This
is
an
initial
conversation.
This
is
not
meant
to
be
a
deciding
discussion
by
any
means
right.
B
You
don't
mind
me
just
saying
it's
just
kind
of
the
structure
that
we
have
had
is
that
this
particular
your
presentations
come
in
and
and
then
next
month
we
have
to
vote
on
that
that's
kind
of
the
motor's
upper
random
of
our
committee
and
and
I.
That's.
Why
I'm
overly
concerned
that
this
is
next
next
month
we'll
be.
B
A
I
completely
understand
where
you're
coming
from
and
why
you
would
assume
that,
because
it
has
been
in
in
some
cases
when
it's
a
small
project
or
different
project.
That's
the
case
in
this
case
we're
not
planning
to
come
back
to
the
committee
for
at
least
a
couple
months.
So
there's
this
initial
conversation
there's
going
to
be
an
update
next
month
and
then
the
plan
would
be
to
come
back
to
the
committee
at
the
April
meeting.
This
is
a
large
project
and
it
does
deserve
a
little
bit
more
time.
Yeah.
E
And
if
we're
not
ready
in
April,
then
we'll
continue
the
discussion
until
we
are
comfortable
making,
because
once
we
make
the
changes,
then
the
it
will
be,
it
will
be
our
ordinance
that
will
operate
under,
for
you
know
several
years
well
a
few
years
anyway.
So
we
want
to
get
it
right.
Yep
Lauren!
You
have
a
question
or
a
comment.
O
O
Ultimately,
once
we
start
trying
to
piece
this
together,
if
we
could
sort
of
have
the
material
presented
as
sort
of
here
are
things
when
you're
thinking
about
protecting
tenants,
here's
a
set
of
recommendations
when
you're
thinking
about
protecting
landlords
and
here's
where
we
see
some
obvious
overlap
or
opportunity
for
sort
of
agreement.
That's
pretty
low
hanging
fruit,
like
I,
think
some
of
the
the
things
you
all
put
on
here
are
pretty
pretty
obvious,
like
we
should
all
be
in
favor
of
transparency
right
like
there's.
O
Some
like
this
is
a
huge
gamut
in
terms
of
how
controversial
these
would
or
wouldn't
be,
and
I
suspect.
The
same
will
be
true
from
getting
landlords,
so
I
agree
with
Hugo,
both
in
terms
of
maybe
just
in
the
future,
with
big
things
like
this
framing
it
up
that
you
don't
have
to
we're
not
going
to
ask
you
to
vote
tonight,
we're
we
recognize.
We
need
to
get
this
information
from
this
other
critical
party,
and
it
would
be
helpful,
I
think
to
me
to
see
it
that
way
when
we
do
get
to
that
point.
J
Yeah
I
just
want
to
note
that
I
appreciate
the
discussion.
That's
been
going
on
this
far
I
I
too
appreciate
Hugo
bringing
up
the
landlord
I
I
do
want
to
highlight
that
you
know
we
have.
You
know
residential
rental
providers
on
the
call
on
the
committee,
and
we
hear
from
that
group.
Quite
often
we
sometimes
do
not
hear
or
most
of
the
time
we
do
not
hear
from
tenants
and
so
I
just
want
to.
J
J
J
It
makes
sense
for
us
to
be
in
alignment
with
you
know.
The
rest
in
most
cases,
makes
sense
for
us
to
be
in
alignment
with
the
rest
of
the
county.
I
think
the
10-day
versus
five-day
exemption
makes
sense
here
and
then
I.
You
know,
of
course,
I
made
the
referral
so
I
just
advocate
here
that
we
also
include
the
the
just
cause
eviction
updates
to
our.
G
J
C
C
I
think
we
need
to
take
our
time
with
this
to
get
it
right
and
not
feel
we
have
to
rush
through
everything,
because
you
know
landlord
they're,
the
one
who's
made,
the
financial
investment
and
I
mean
I.
Had
a
I've
had
some
bad
things,
you
know
and
stuff.
So
it's
it
can
be
frustrating
time
and
Tina
has
sure
had
more
than
her.
It's
too
much
experience
with
the
problem.
Tenants
you
know
so
I
think
we
should
just
take
it
slowly.
O
Yeah
I
don't
want
to
Sidetrack
us
so
by
all
means.
Tell
me
if
this
is
a
separate
conversation,
but-
and
hopefully
this
is
not
an
inappropriate
thing
to
say,
but
one
I
was
really
compelled
by
what
the
very
first
public
comment
was
and
I
would
ask.
We
add
that
to
the
list
of
things
to
consider
both
points
she
made
about
being
allowed
to
call
the
police
and
have
your
locks
changed
and
then
you
know
I.
Think,
council.
O
Member
Reed's
point
is
a
really
good
one
about
power
dynamics,
and
maybe
this
is
for
a
different
day,
but
I'd
really
love
to
think
about
what
we
do
about.
That
I
mean
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
we're.
Moving
too
fast
to
protect
tenants,
I
actually
tend
tend
to
think
those
protections
are
really
needed.
I
just
do
think
it's
important
to
recognize.
Both
sides
have
valid
needs,
and
so
the
power
Dynamic
is
is
not
level.
O
I
absolutely
agree
with
that,
although
I
do
think
that
there
is
less
power,
the
smaller
the
landlord
in
some
respects,
so
I
don't
know.
Maybe
council
member
read
that's
something
to
think
about
offline,
but
I
totally
hear
you
and
I.
Don't
know
what
to
do
about
that
and
I
think
it's
a
really
important
Point.
B
I
Just
so
that
there's
you
know
we're
not
a
huge
outlier
with
some
of
these
things.
I
do
think
one
thing
you
know:
I
think
we
can
do
the
the
tenant
protections
without
making
it
punitive
towards
housing
providers.
I
think
that's
would
be.
You
know
one
way
where
we
could
move
forward
without
having
this
be
a
US
versus
them
kind
of
situation.
N
N
P
N
Is
the
right
word
that
we
should
use?
Yes,
we
want
to
be
thoughtful
to
me.
We
want
to
be
deliberate.
We
don't
want
to
be
slow
because
there
is
urgency
around
this
people
on
this
call,
including
myself,
may
not
be
feeling
it,
but
there
are
many
people.
Landlords
included
that,
for
whatever
reason,
either
because
you're
near
displacement
or
have
already
been
displaced
or
for
a
landlord
is
Miss,
Payton
described
have
a
really
terrible
situation
that
you're
in
that's
that
is
creating
a
loss
of
income.
That's
affecting
you
like
there
is.
N
J
Yeah
I
just
want
to
note
one
last
thing:
I
believe
and
council
member
Burns
or
maybe
director.
Flax
can
correct
me,
but
I
believe
the
issue
regarding
domestic
violence,
victims
and
you
know,
quote
unquote.
Crime-Free
ordinances
is
more
connected
to
our
nuisance
premises.
Ordinance.
Is
that
correct
and
I
believe
that
our
nuisance
premises
ordinance
has
those
Protections
in
place.
J
F
I,
do
I
think
that
we
have
some
of
those
protections,
but
there
have
been
some
that
have
been
detailed
more
recently.
That
I
think
we
do
need
to
look
at
it's.
Ours
was
done
in
I,
think
2012,
and
so
some
there
has
have
been
some
additional
legislation
that
I
do
think.
We
need
to
look
at
including
the
Illinois
state
law
that
was
referenced
to
make
sure
that
we're
aligned
with
that,
because
I
believe
we
have
to
be
other
things,
but
but
I
do
think
there
there
may
be.
E
E
Thanks
right,
so
you
all
staff
are
going
to
be
chat
talking
with
our
landlord
Community
to
get
more
input
from
them
and
that
do
you
have
enough
input
from
us
for
a
first
go-around
tonight
or
I
guess.
Are
there
some
of
these
in
particular
that
you,
because
we've
not
really
I,
mean
we've
basically
said:
oh
yeah,
that
short
list
the
list
of
about
10
items
that
looks
pretty
good
we've,
not
really
delved
into
the
more
the
newer,
more
complicated
issues
that
you've
that
were
mentioned
in
the
memo.
I
I
can
I
can
explain
my
two
referrals
that
are
kind
of
being
wrapped
into
this
discussion.
The
the
fair
notice
I,
you
know
when
I
first
got
on
Council
something
I'd
looked
up
and
I
just
kind
of
it's
mirroring,
Chicago's,
Fair
notice
and
I.
Think
I
would
want
to
be
at
least
near
Chicago.
You
know,
I
I
do
hear
from
people
and
you
know
have
had
the
you
know
the
The
Experience,
where
you
know
you
find
out.
I
Oh
I
have
to
move
in
two
months
and
like
realistically,
you
know
even
60
days
notice
for
a
short-term
renter
is
a
huge
huge
burden,
especially
with
Rising
rental
costs.
You
know,
I
know
a
lot
of
housing
providers.
Don't
do
this,
but
you
do
hear
stories
about
like
well
rents
going
up,
so
they
terminated
my
lease
and
I
can't
find
something
now
so
I
would
want
that
to
stay
at
least
give
it
as
much
noticed
as
Chicago
does
to
their
tenants.
I
You
know,
maybe
we
could
bake
in
something
that
maybe,
for
you
know
very
long-term
renters
that
it's
a
little
bit
even
you
know
once
you're
there
for
like
past
five
years.
That's
you
know,
that's
a
pretty
big
shock
if
you
have
to
move
the
second
one,
the
you
know
the
security
deposit
piece
I
just
heard
from
a
few
people.
I
I
So
that,
wouldn't
you
know,
maybe
you
know
cut
off
a
week
or
so
you
know
a
lot
of
the
security
deposits
at
this
point
are
pretty
big,
and
so
you
know
a
lot
of
middle
class
families.
You
know
waiting
for
you
know
three
grand
to
come
come
back
is,
is
a
big
deal
for
them,
so
that's
kind
of
where,
where
those
two,
what
my
thinking
was
on
those
great.
E
I
B
Thank
you
just
wanted
to
ask
Marion,
Anna
or
Lindsay
to
if
you
have
a
hold
of
the
Chicago
landlord
tenant
ordinance
itself,
because
I
remember
that
my
office
had
a
very
hard
time
finding
that
document
there
are
lots
of
summaries
going
around
floating
around,
but
in
the
back
of
of
leases
and
stuff,
but
the
actual
full
complete
ordinance.
It's
not
an
easy
document
to
come
by.
B
B
Once
it's
determined
that
the
tenant
is
qualified
to
run
that
apartment,
then
you
go
to
the
second
phase,
which
is
criminal
backgrounds
and
any
any
other
kinds
of
checks
that
you
might
run,
which
are
also
have
been
recently
limited
to
three
years,
so
even
a
convict
felon
that
he's
service
of
that
sentence
or
that
sentence.
Let's
leave
it
at
that
was
five
years
ago.
You
cannot
bring
that
up
as
a
as
a
hope
to
rent
into
that
particular
person
which
I
I
I'm
all
in
favor
of
all
these
things
and
I.
B
Think
it's
very
it's
very
good.
The
things
are
moving
in
in
a
more
fair
Direction,
but
it'd
be
good
to
have
if
we're
comparing.
What
Evanston
has
currently
what
Cook
County
landlord
in
an
ordinance
is
in
what
Chicago
landlord
tenant
ordinance
is
also
if
we're
gonna
make
those
comparisons,
it'll
be
good
to
have
the
actual
full
documents.
B
So
we
can
get
a
good
sense
of
that
and
it
that
in
itself
is
going
to
take
us
a
good
while,
even
if
we
do
it
deliberately
and
as
fast
as
we
can,
it's
gonna
take
a
good
while
because
it's
it's
a
lot
of
a
document
and
I.
Now
we're
talking
about
three
of
those
that
we're
gonna
try
to
compare
to
each
other.
A
A
E
A
G
F
Along
with
these
other
changes,
one
of
the
things
we
didn't
want
to
have
happen
is
to
do
a
whole
lot
of
individual
separate
changes
to
multiple
ordinances.
That
would
be
I
think
just
absolutely
confusing
and
drive
the
landlords.
You
know
crazy,
because
I
mean
how
can
you
implement
multiple
changes?
Sequentially,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
other
reasons
we're
trying
to
pull
everything
together.
G
F
Whatever
we
are
going
to
do,
let's
try
to
get
it
all
whether
it's
in
as
as
I,
think
council
member
Reed
said
whether
it's
in
a
separate
ordinance
in
some
cases
or
not,
but
even
things
like
at
least
riders
that
explain
something
or
references
I,
think
are
very
important
because
it's
really
hard
to
keep
track
of
all
the
different
piece
parts
right
right,
yeah.
Thank
you.
O
Lauren
well,
I
was
just
going
to
answer
Marion's
question,
which
is
that
I
thought
the
information
provided
was
very
useful
and
I
didn't
have
any
follow-up
questions
and
I
feel
like
this
is
a
good
set
for
us
to
consider,
as
I
said,
with
the
addition
of
the
public
commenters,
the
first
commenters,
so
no
I
thought
I
felt
like
this.
Was
the
right
level
of
detail.
I
didn't
feel
any
need
for
follow-up
information.
I
thought
it
was
really
good.
E
F
Okay
and
we
will
be
trying
to
get
a
broad
range
of
of
landlords
involved
in
the
conversation
and
get
feedback,
and
so,
if
any
of
you
know,
landlords
I
mean.
Obviously
we
know
we
have
some
landlords
who
come
to
every
meeting,
who
will
of
course
be
invited.
But
but
if
there
are
others
that
people
know
who
might
be
good
to
get
involved,
we
have
our
list.
But
sometimes
it
helps.
E
Yeah
great
okay!
Well,
this
is
obviously
just
our
first
goal
around
on
this
topic
and
we'll
have
further
in-depth
discussion
in
the
next
couple
of
meetings
ahead.
So
we
have
another
meaty
topic
now,
which
is
basically
every
three
years.
We
need
to
review
and
update
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
So
now
we're
getting
started
on
thinking
what
that
update
might
look
like
and
we
had
information
in
our
packet.
Is
there
a
presentation
before
we
start
discussing
it?
There
we
go.
A
A
There
was
no
question,
but
thank
you
for
coming
before
we
move
on
to
the
the
next
topic.
I'm
going
to
start
the
presentation
for
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
update.
We
also
have
Melissa
klotz
the
zoning
administrator
that
is
with
us
tonight.
That's
going
to
provide
the
bulk
of
the
update
when
it
gets
to
the
more
technical
zoning
bonuses
and
calculation
of
the
iho,
okay
and
I.
Think
just
before
I
start
I
want
to
make
sure
Melissa.
Are
you
here
and
able
to
speak
and
have
the
right
I.
A
So
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
has
been
implemented
with
several
different
iteration
started
a
while
back.
Initially
in
2007,
we
had
the
ih04
for
sale
developments
only
with
a
smaller
fee
and
loop
per
unit.
It
was
revised
as
a
much
meteor
version
in
2016
and
included
rental
and
for
sale
developments
at
the
time
as
it
included
some
feeling
per
unit.
A
But
one
of
the
update
was
the
way
of
calculation,
simplifying
the
calculation
in
a
increase
in
a
fee
and
loop
per
unit
to
ensure
that
we
got
more
on-site
unit
versus
fees
being
paid
just
so
they
could
produce
additional
units,
affordable
units
in
the
community
and
then
in
the
ordinance.
There
is
a
regular
update,
that's
included,
to
make
sure
that
the
IH
requirements
are
in
line
with
the
needs
of
our
community.
A
If
it
involves
any
kind
of
Public
Funding,
there
is
alternative
and
other
way
to
meet
those
requirements,
but
at
a
top
level,
10
and
20
are
kind
of
the
numbers
to
remember
here,
for
the
current
diet
show
for
rental
development.
The
affordable
maximum
income
is
60
of
area
median
income,
so
the
units
are
supposed
to
be
affordable,
are
meant
to
be
affordable
for
household
that
are
at
or
below
60
Ami
for
ownership.
A
Currently
is
30
years
for
rental
units
99
years
renewable
for
ownership.
The
affordable
units
do
not
require
parking,
so
that
counts.
When
there's
in
the
calculation
that
Melissa
is
going
to
go
over,
the
iho
units
are
also
located
throughout
the
buildings.
They
cannot
be
clumped
into
one
corner.
They
cannot
be
just
specific,
only
Studios
they
have
to
match.
A
If
there's
a
certain
number
of
units
of
two
bedroom
or
one
bedroom
or
Studios,
that
needs
to
follow
kind
of
the
same
ratio
and
then,
as
far
as
the
benefit,
the
buildings
that
are
meeting
the
itra
requirements
are
receiving
certain
number
of
construction
site
zoning
bonuses
that
is
going
to
be
detailed
in
the
next
slide.
That
Melissa
is
going
to
go
over
since
we're
going
to
discuss
the
technical
details
at
the
very
high
level
of
potential
changes
to
be
made.
A
But
we
wanted
to
start
with
something
and
we're
starting
at
a
higher
level.
So
the
additional
items
to
consider
for
this.
This
review
is
our
couple
things.
First,
there's
been
some
recent
state
of
Illinois,
affordable
housing,
property
tax
incentives
that
I've
put
in
place,
they're
for
developments
of
seven
or
more
units,
and
they
have
different
levels
depending
on
and
different
level
of
benefits,
depending
on
the
number
of
affordable
units
that
a
developer
is
providing.
The
thresholds
are
15,
20
and
35
percent
for
Evanston.
A
So
it's
something
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure.
We
include
in
our
considerations
because,
of
course,
if
we're
able
to
somehow
align
some
of
what
we
do
with
those
tax
incentive
requirements,
then
we're
able
to
leverage
this
benefit
to
make
sure
that
the
development
that
we're
seeing
are
getting
the
best
amount
of
affordable
housing
units
for
the
community.
A
But
I
wanted
to
provide
that
context.
For
you,
the
20
level
is
only
available
to
low
affordability
areas
and,
unfortunately,
Evanston
does
qualify
for
that,
so
that
those
are
some
of
the
twos.
We
specifically
focused
on.
The
second
item
that
we
are
looking
at
is
Chicago
as
recently
updated
their
own
version
of
their
eye
show.
So
we
review
what
they
put
in
place
to
try
to
understand
how
that
was
working.
Their
setup
is
quite
complex.
A
It's
got
a
tier
system,
it's
based
on
different
type
of
neighborhoods,
there's
a
lot
of
factors,
but
at
the
very,
very
high
level,
if
we're
looking
at
comparable
neighborhood
to
Evanston
they've
set
an
affordability
minimum
at
20
for
60
Ami
units,
there's
a
number
of
different
kind
of
flexibility
and
alternative
that
are
possible.
But
just
keep
that
in
mind
is
helpful.
G
Q
We
last
talked
about
iho
zoning
bonuses
a
few
years
back,
and
it
was
quite
a
complicated
thing
and
largely
because
we
were
looking
at
establishing
bonuses
that
were
correct
for
development
based
on
projects
that
had
already
been
approved,
and
it
worked
out
really
well
other
than
it's
really
hard
for
everyone
to
follow.
So
this
time
around.
Q
What
we've
done
is
mostly
tried
to
simplify
it
so
that
we
are
getting
the
same
end
result
or
slightly
better,
but
in
a
way
that
everyone
can
follow
and
is
much
more
intuitive,
and
in
doing
so
we
should
be
able
to
get
quite
a
bit
more
affordable
housing
overall.
So
if
you
look
at
our
current
bonuses
that
are
shown
on
this
slide,
this
was
based
on
10
on-site,
affordable
housing,
which
was
not
required.
Q
Only
five
percent
was
required
on
site,
but
because
of
how
the
bonuses
played
out,
and
especially
with
rounding,
most
developments
did
choose
to
go
for
these
10
bonuses.
So
you
can
see
with
our
current
bonuses,
for
instance,
in
the
downtown.
The
density
allowed
for
market
rate
bonus
units
for
every
one,
affordable
housing
unit
you
had,
which
is
a
great
thing
other
than
the
end
result
on
paper
kind
of
looks
a
little
bit
funny,
because
it's
starting
to
show
up
that
that
it
looks
like
developments
are
gaining
30
and
40
bonus
units.
Q
Q
This
kind
of
go
goes
over
based
on
those
bonuses,
some
of
those
things
that
I
was
just
saying
our
method
of
calculating
worked
backwards
before
and
that
what
that
resulted
in
is
for
those
10
on-site,
affordable,
housing.
It's
we
weren't
actually
getting
10
in
the
end,
counting
bonus
units,
we
were
really
ending
up
at
somewhere
between
seven
and
eight
percent.
Q
This
is
proposed
bonuses,
and
so
this
is
going
based
on
15
on-site,
affordable
housing
and
that
that
is
a
true
15
since
we're
now
working
forward,
and
so
ultimately
we're
almost
doubling
the
on-site,
affordable
housing
that
we
would
be
getting
changes
from
our
current
bonuses
are
highlighted
in
Gray
and
one
that
probably
significantly
stands
out
is
that
it's
showing
for
density
that
there
would
be
no
density
requirement.
Now.
Q
What
this
does
is
that
takes
away
that
goofy
thing
of
seeing
30
or
40
bonus
market
rate
units,
and
instead
it's
going
to
what
actually
fits
on
the
property
that
is
acceptable
and
if
it
is
a
very
small
project,
it's
going
to
be
the
rest
of
the
zoning
regulations
that
end
up
determining
that.
You
know,
based
on
height,
lock,
coverage
things
like
that
and
then
in
say
the
downtown,
where
we
really
do
want
that
that
big
height
and
density,
it's
actually
encouraging
it
appropriately
and
if
not
appropriately,
those
would
all
be
planned
developments.
Q
Looking
at
the
parking
requirement,
we
are
recommending
changing
to
0.5
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
rather
than
per
bedroom,
and
that
is
still
on
par
or
slightly
more
than
what
current
developments
are
being
approved
with
by
the
city
council.
So
we,
we
still
believe
that
that's
probably
a
little
bit
more
parking
than
is
necessary,
but
definitely
within
the
realm
of
more
acceptable
to
developers
as
well
as
the
city.
Q
So
without
working
backwards
we
have
a
couple
of
examples,
and-
and
these
are
current
in-process
projects
that
may
or
may
not
come
to
fruition,
but
applying
both
our
our
current
zoning
bonuses
and
then
the
proposed
zoning
bonuses.
You
can
see
what
the
differences
are.
So
example:
number
one
is
a
small
development
and
overall
they're
requesting
nine
units,
so
with
our
current
10
on-site,
affordable
housing
that
is
not
actually
10
on
site.
Q
The
requirement
is
that
0.7
units
must
be
affordable,
so
that
rounds
up
to
one
unit,
and
so
what
we
are
actually
saying
from
a
zoning
perspective
is
that
they're
requesting
seven
units,
one
of
which
is
Affordable,
plus
two
bonus
units.
So
that's
where
it
gets
a
little
confusing
for
everyone
when
it
doesn't
need
to
be
looking
at
how
we're
proposing
it.
We
would
just
say
they
want
nine
units.
Okay,
fifteen
percent
of
nine
is
1.35
units
or
if
they
want
to
go
with
the
20,
then
that's
1.8
units.
Q
The
other
part
of
this
is
since
we
are
looking
at
parking
that
then
goes
based
on
dwelling
units
rather
than
bedrooms.
We
would
not
be
discouraging
bedrooms
and
encouraging
luxury
units
that
just
have
fewer
bedrooms,
so
we
could
get
more
of
what
the
community
really
needs.
If
we
go
to
example,
two
on
the
next
slide.
Q
So
that
is
this:
one
is
for
a
mid-sized
project.
This
is
basically
the
largest
zoning
project
that
does
not
trigger
a
planned
development.
So
this
is,
you
can
kind
of
look
at
it
as
a
worst
case
scenario,
but
the
current
10
percent
affordable
housing.
It
was
that
the
request
was
for
30
dwelling
units
and
three
needed
to
be
affordable
units
and
then
because
of
those
three
units,
you
could
gain
six
bonus
units
and
I.
Q
Q
If
you
look
at
the
15
and
20
percent,
then
you
would
see
that
instead
of
gaining
two
affordable
units,
instead
you
gained
5.4
units
or
even
7.2
units.
In
the
end,
it's
the
same
project
other
than
we
get
more
affordable
housing
and
it
would
also
trigger
less
parking,
which
this
is
a
project
that
did
go
through
the
process
and
it
received
a
parking
variation
to
reduce
its
parking
by
a
decent
amount.
So
you
can
see
better
end
result
for
everyone.
Q
Q
Using
our
our
new
way
of
doing
it,
we
would
more
than
double
those
on-site,
affordable
units,
while
also
reducing
the
parking,
which
is
exactly
what
the
developer
is
requesting
and
heading
heading
to
city
council
with
anyway.
So
the
other
part
of
that
parking
reduction
is
that
it
just
provides
more
more
of
a
known
quantity
to
developers
where
they
can.
They
can
know
right
off
the
bat
that
they
don't
need
to
have
an
another
entire
floor
of
parking
that
costs
x,
amount
of
money
and
they've.
O
O
Don't
really
understand
how
you
have,
for
example,
1.35
units
or
1.8,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
round
down
or
round
up,
could
you
just
clarify
that
the
decimal
idea
with
a
unit
the
second
one
is-
and
this
is
probably
just
my
ignorance
showing
through,
but
there
are
a
couple
places
where
you
say
no
parking
on
inclusionary
units,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand.
Does
that
mean
like
someone
who's
allowed
to
move
into
an
inclusionary
unit
is
like
hey
I
got.
O
Q
A
No,
no,
that's
that's
right
and
for
the
future,
we're
actually
still
discussing
that's
part
of
the
kind
of
Next
Step.
We
want
to
understand
better
how
the
state
of
Illinois
is
also
looking
at
the
tax
incentives
and
how
they're
doing
their
calculation
to
understand,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
smaller
buildings
between
7
and
14
units,
how
they're
doing
it
so
we
don't
end
up
having
two
different
way
of
calculating
and
no
one
understands
anything.
Q
F
A
really
quick
point,
the
this
is
the
tax
benefits,
are
so
new.
Really
the
first
property
that
has
been
built
or
is
in
the
process
of
being
finished
is
a
fairly
large
property
in
Fulton
Market,
which
is
you
probably
know,
is
a
very
expensive
market
right
now
and
related
Midwest
is
building
it
and
they're
putting
20
affordable
on
site,
so
it
clearly
is
motivating
to
developers
and
I'm
going
to
send
out
an
article.
It
was
in
today's
Tribune
about
that.
F
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
very
careful
of
is
to
try
to
that's
another
reason
for
going
with
the
actual
percent
being
accurate
and
Lauren.
Your
point
is
very
good.
We
just
don't
know
yet,
because
nobody
has
proposed
small
units
that
anybody's
implemented
that
we're
aware
of
so
there's
a
it's
a
kind
of
steep
learning
curve.
F
F
It's
not
like
it's
packaged
with
the
rent,
and
we
do
not
have
a
discounted
rate
at
this
time,
for
the
parking
has
totally
separate.
People
can
get
parking.
We
did
have
a
situation
where
we
had
a
a
property
that
you
know.
Well,
we
don't
have
enough
parking
for
everybody.
So
can
we
just
say
that
we
can't
offer
it
to
the
people
with
affordable
housing?
We
said
no,
they
have
to.
They
have
to
have
the
chance
to
get
it
too.
F
J
Thank
you.
I
have
well
I'm,
really
glad
Lauren
that
you
honed
in
on
parking
there,
because
that's
where
one
of
my
comments
really
lies,
and
so
I
I
put
in
a
referral
for
bonus
reform
quite
a
while
ago,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
to
see
this.
You
know
I'm
sure
this
was
on
the
minds
of
Staff
well
before
that
referral,
but
really
excited
to
see
this
moving
forward.
J
Q
J
Provided,
yes,
and
you
know,
public
benefits
can
be
things
like
Divi
bike
stations
or
Parks,
or
you
know
correct,
and
so
what
Chicago
did
is
they
realized?
Hey
those
things
just
make
the
development
more
attractive
in
the
first
place,
so
that's
good
for
your
bottom
line,
if
you're
putting
in
divvy
stations
or
if
you're,
adding
parks
and
you're
adding
these
other
amenities
that
are
accessible
to
the
public,
and
so
what
Chicago
did
was.
J
So
so
that's
one
I
would
love
us
to
look
into.
You
know
creating
alternative
streams
of
revenue
for
our
affordable
housing
fund
that
could
be
supported
by
folks.
You
know
instead
of
providing
public
benefits,
you
know
just
directly
cashing
out
for
some
of
that
and
then
on
the
topic
of
parking
I
am
you
know,
parking
is
a
huge
cost
of
providing
housing,
and
particularly
it's
it's
a
burden
for
providing
affordable
housing.
As
was
noted
earlier
and
they're,
you
know
there
are
cities
Across
the
Nation,
you
know
I'm
thinking
some.
J
J
J
Like
to
get
to
the
point
here,
I
would
encourage
us
I'd,
really
love
to
see
if
there's
a
possibility
for
us,
you
know
preferably
to
eliminate
for
these
kinds
of
projects
for
qualifying
projects,
parking
minimums
and
allow
the
private
Market
to
figure
that
out
or
set
the
the
rate
at
instead
of
0.5.25
I
think
would
be
a
fair
middle
ground
and
I.
Think
with
that,
we
would,
you
know,
encourage
you
know
more
folks
to
develop
here
so
all
in
there.
Thank
you,
okay,.
I
So
I
had
a
similar
thought
to
councilmember
Reed
wondering
about
my
questions:
kind
of
around
Transit
oriented
development.
How
what
we
can
change
to
make
facilitate,
like
you,
said,
less
parking,
so
I'll
just
leave
that
at
that
one
other
thing
I'd
have,
and
maybe
this
is
a
whole
deeper
discussion
as
we
we
get
further
along
in
this
for
staff.
But
you
know
some
feedback
I
get
from
residents.
Is
you
know,
affordable
housing
units
there's
not
very
many
for
larger
families,
how
we
can
facilitate.
Q
Great
question
so
zoning,
depending
on
the
zoning
District,
either
uses
building
lock
coverage
or
floor
area
ratio.
So
building
lot
coverage
is
for
residential
districts
and
it
is
simply
the
outline
of
all
roofed
structures
compared
to
the
total
lot
size
for
commercial
properties
or
mixed-use
properties,
downtown
area,
it
uses
floor
area
ratio
and
that
is
basically
the
outline
of
all
roofed
buildings
but
then
multiplied
by
how
many
floors
it
is
compared
to
the
total
lot
size.
So
it
it
ends
up
being
an
A
number.
Q
C
Q
G
F
Okay,
I
I
do
want
to
point
out
a
couple
things
we
can
look
more
at
incentivize
I
mean
ways
to
potentially
incentivize
larger
units,
but
there
are
some
things
as
Melissa
explained.
Even
changing
the
parking
from
a
per
unit
from
a
per
bedroom
to
a
per
unit
I
think
is
going
to
have
a
significant
impact
on
that,
because
we've
seen
that
you
know
it's
even
like.
Oh
we're
going
to
build
a
two
bedroom
with
a
den
because
they
don't
want
to
have
the
extra
parking.
F
So
things
like
that
and
I
think
that
that
will
give
them
give
us
greater
flexibility,
and
we
have
always
offered
the
option
of
providing
a
sort
of
equal
discount
off
of
an
Ami
discount.
For
example,
if
you
were
to
have
you
know,
10
units
at
60
Ami.
If
you
actually
offered
units
at
30
Ami,
we
would
require
fewer
units
because
of
the
Deeper
Discount
and
that's
something
Chicago
does
as
well.
They
offer
that
it's
really
something
that's
hard
to.
When
we
did.
F
F
Or
vice
versa,
where
you've
got
existing
properties
already,
the
in
some
cases
they're
financing
there
are
lower
cost
sources
of
financing.
If
a
somebody
who's
deconverting,
a
building
will
have
20
percent
affordability
on
site
at
50
Ami,
and
that
is
a
deal
that
works
really
well
with
the
housing
authorities
to
give
more
units
that
will
easily
accept
vouchers
because
vouchers
are
at
50
Ami,
that's
the
maximum
income.
F
G
A
A
We
know
that
there's
a
certain
level
of
affordability,
that's
being
reduced
from
very
large
renovation
and
rehabs
being
done
to
currently
affordable
homes
that
are
becoming
very
large
and
potentially
quite
expensive
within
the
community.
We
know
that
there's
commercial
currency
that
is
not
covered
commercial
developments,
there's
other
single
families
not
covered,
so
we
wanted
to
review
a
little
bit
our
options
there
and
what
could
be
considered?
A
There's
a
penalty,
a
non-compliance
policy
that
could
be
potentially
reviewed
and
improved
in
this
version
of
the
iho
that
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
Chicago
has
done
some
interesting
things.
There
we're
also
going
to
be
reviewing
exactly
what
Sarah
was
mentioning
kind
of
alternative
equivalence
and
what
that
could
be
and
how
that
can
provide
some
flexibility
so
that
we
don't
have
necessarily
quite
the
same
level
of
complexity
that
the
Chicago
model
was
providing
where,
if
you're
reviewing
the
documentation,
it's
very
easy
to
get
lost.
A
Part
of
the
goal
of
this
update
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
Clarity
for
all
when
we're
reviewing
what
the
Ito
entails.
The
rounding
calculation
is
mentioned
here,
but
there's
also
the
definition
of
what
potentially
a
public
benefit
is
right.
Now.
Public
benefit
is
a
little
fuzzy.
So
we
wanted
to
kind
of
spend
some
time
to
review
that
and
provide
some
clarity
there
and
I
believe
that
was
mentioned
in
the
conversation
before
and
then,
of
course,
we're
going
to
review
other
items
such
as
whether
our
fee
and
loser
still
appropriate.
A
If
there's
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made
reviewing
the
affordability
periods,
what
the
itra
means
for
some
of
the
maybe
smaller
projects
that
are
for
ownership
and
whether
it's
it's
making
sense
and
then
the
incentive
for
larger
units,
whether
there's
something
that
can
be
done
or
not.
There
are
complexity
to
that
topic.
A
Right,
the
goal
would
be
to
come
back
to
the
committee
with
a
proposal.
That's
a
little
bit
more
full-fledged
with
like
layers
and
a
little
bit
more
complexity,
but
having
this
conversation
in
two-part
is
helpful
to
kind
of
get
the
core
of
the
conversation
discuss
before
we
move
forward
right
any
further,
yeah
right,
because.
F
There's
already
been
some
discussion
with
developers
and
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
go
quite
to
the
formality
level
of
formality
that
we
had
in
our
last
go-round.
But
again
it
is
important
that
we
include
developers
in
the
discussion,
just
as
we
were
talking
about
rights
of
including
landlords
in
in
the
discussion
of
the
rlto.
So
we
will
be
doing
some
of
that
too.
N
Perhaps
thinking
about-
and
this
was
also
you
know-
a
part
of
the
presentation
that
we
just
received
thinking
about
how
iho
can
tie
into
commercial
developments,
but
I
just
want
to
uplift
that
I
think
it's
it's.
It's
really
important.
We
continue
to
find
ways,
yes
to
include
as
many
of
these
affordable
units
in
the
plan
development
projects,
but
also
the
way
we
can
boasts
our
affordable
housing
funds
so
that
we
can
contribute
to
other
projects
around
the
city.
That's
all
true.
Thank
you.
E
E
A
Is
correct?
It's
the
second
alley
for
2024,
so
you're
discussing
the
selection
prioritization
of
the
Alley
we're
not
discussing
funding
yet
because
it's
for
2024,
it's
part
of
our
effort
to
prioritize
multiple
alleys
at
once.
So
we're
kind
of
steps
through
the
end
of
the
current
Consolidated
plan
and
have
our
ducks
in
a
row
for
funding
for
next
year.
E
N
E
A
So
there's
there's
no
one
for
the
alley,
but
accountable
for
burdens,
I
believe
so
part
of
what
makes
it
a
little
bit
challenging,
and
this
is
Nelly
that
was
discussed
last
summer.
We
keep
we've
been
having
based
on
agenda
items.
We've
been
having
to
postpone
this,
but
that
was
that's
an
alley
that
got
your
full
approval
from.
That
was
an
alley
that
was
suggested
by
Chris
Vanetta
in
public
works.
N
Yes,
I
think
for
this
alley.
One
I
think
we've
because
of
the
cdbg.
This
is,
you
know
Fifth
Ward,
especially
the
a092,
since
the
track,
but
even
eight
zero.
Nine
three
I
believe
is
in
a
cdbg
area.
We've
made
quite
a
bit
of
progress
on
completing
or
improving,
unimproved
alleys
and,
and
so
I
think
this
is
this
alley
was
identified
due
to
you
know
some
I
think
some
of
the
selections
are
based
on.
Like
are
complaint
driven.
N
E
P
I
I
C
D
E
A
D
D
D
D
The
large
majority
of
calls,
or
96
of
them
are
still
from
tenants
and
just
some
some
updates
on
administrative
monitoring
of
the
calls.
We
have
implementing
implemented
a
process
to
log
response
time
in
Evanston
311,
as
requested
in
previous
meetings
and
previous
updates
for
the
MTO,
and
we
will
be
using
the
data
in
our
monthly
check-ins
and
we'll
also
be
using
it
to
track
progress
on
calls.
P
D
Yes
great
question:
we
just
got
news
that
they
are
working
on
the
tax.
The
text
feature
that
we
had
requested
and
they
are
planning
to
roll
it
out
at
the
end
of
quarter.
One
so
they're
still
working
on
that
and
they've
also
sent
a
scope
of
work
to
the
developer
of
the
chatbot
feature
that
will
mirror
the
one
that
they
use
for
Chicago.
So
they're
working
on
both
things.
A
And
just
for
context,
so
the
the
texting
tool-
that's
something
that's
a
little
bit
easier
to
implement.
So
we're
excited
to
see
that
happening
soon
as
far
as
the
chatbot
and
kind
of
that
digital
integration.
That
would
have
some
kind
of
automated
features
and
document
creation.
Things
like
that.
That's
something
that's
going
to
take
quite
a
bit
longer,
but
at
the
same
time,
since
we
are
updating-
or
at
least
looking
to
review,
updates
to
the
rlto.
The
timing
works
quite
well
because
it
can
start
the
work.
N
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
differences
between
the
two.
So
one
kind
of
the
Live
Messenger
feature
could
involve
kind
of
an
automated
feature,
but
also
it
could
involve
a
live
person
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
they're
working
towards
they're
working
towards
more
of
an
automated.
A
So
there's
two
different
service
which
would
allow
MTU
to
be
reached
by
text
currently
they're
only
reachable
via
3-1-1
or
via
their
direct
phone
hotline.
They
don't
really
have
a
texting
service
and
one
of
the
feedback
we've
gotten
with
other
services
is
that
a
lot
of
people
nowadays
are
more
comfortable
initiating
contact
with
texting.
A
A
They're
probably
going
to
choose
has
both
features
and
there
might
be
some
level
of
automated
answer
that
could
be
possible,
but
that's
going
to
be
extremely
limited
and
really,
the
point
is
for
them
to
be
reachable
with
the
live
person
by
text
as
a
mode
of
communication.
The
website
tool,
which
would
be
a
chat
bot,
that's
going
to
be
something
that
would
be
accessible
after
hours.
A
So
that's
kind
of
the
chatbot,
but
the
chatbot
is
currently
doing
in
Chicago.
Oftentimes
is
allowed
by
answering
a
few
questions.
You
potentially
hear
more
about
what
attendance
or
a
landlord
right
and
Duties
are.
It
can
provide
potentially
templates
or
letters
automatically
things
that
are
kind
of
easy
self-serve
item
that
could
resolve
a
good
part
of
some
of
the
easier
requests
that
the
hotline
is
getting.
N
A
N
D
D
D
D
A
F
And
these
are
not
officially
from
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
but
we
have
been
very
in
some
cases
where
this
developer
wanted
a
some
site
allowances
and
so
what
we
negotiated
as
a
benefit
for
that
was
to
have
one
of
the
units
affordable,
and
it
is
a
large
unit.
It
is
a
three
bedroom
unit
and
it
for
these
particular
which
they're
not
really
the
true
iho.
F
O
Yeah
I
was
just
curious,
I
mean
obviously
it's
a
very
strange
labor
market,
we're
in
a
kind
of
strange
economy,
but
I'm
wondering
what
the
ad
what's
attributable
to
the
super
steep
increase
I
mean
beyond
the
obvi.
If
there's
anything
besides
the
pandemic,
because
you
said
it
was
in
2021
right
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
any
because
I.
A
A
Well,
there's
the
fact
that
the
program
I
mean
we're
continuing
Outreach
and
we're
trying
harder
and
harder
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
aware
of
the
program
so
there's
that
there
it's
it's
a
the
replays
of
the
fairly
recent
I,
think
it's
three
or
four
years
now.
So
it's
still
growing
there's
been
some
specific
Outreach
that
was
done
in
the
last
six
months
and
Library
session.
A
A
K
A
There
is
a
long
wait
list,
but
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
if
you
look
at
the
screen
right
now,
most
of
the
units
that
we
have
available
for
this
program
are
in
sections
that
are
in
white
and
in
some
cases
we've.
The
Outreach
that
was
done
recently
has
created
a
lot
more
wait
list
for
the
units.
Even
above
80.
There
was
a
lack
of
awareness
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
there's,
sometimes
a
lack
of
awareness
that
there
could
be
various
income
level
available
with
this
program.
A
So
we
have
to
keep
doing
Outreach
we're
trying
to
be
realistic.
There's
also
the
fact
that
the
the
wait
list
may
be
long
in
some
cases,
but
not
in
others.
It
really
depends
on
the
timing
of
when
the
unit
is
available,
the
size
of
the
unit,
the
situation
at
the
time
and
sure
there
is
a
higher
demand
for
the
lower
income
units,
but
that
doesn't
there's
not
like
a
specific,
like.
Oh
there's
120
people
in
front
of
you
that
that's
not
quite
how
it
works,
because
there's
a
local
preference
Factor.
A
O
A
So
I
have
some
general
staff
update
I'm,
going
to
try
to
make
quick
so
number
one.
We
are
slated
to
get
our
grunt
amounts
on
Final
Grant
amounts
for
2023
on
the
27th
of
February.
So
what
that
means
is
that
will
allow
us
to
if
we
get
them
on
that
date.
That
will
allow
us
to
update
the
2023
action
plan
with
final
Grant
amounts
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
with
final
numbers
and
get
it
approved
by
city
council.
A
A
A
They
are
also
going
to
be
starting
focus
group
from
residence
and
landlords
to
get
kind
of
gather
feedback
on
the
pilot
and
they're
starting
reviewing,
which
grants
and
alternative
external
source
of
funding
could
be
available
and
starting
to
look
at
applying
for
different
grants,
including
one
from
EPA
and
one
from
the
Department
of
energy.
So
we'll
have
a
lot
more
updates
in
April
they're,
slowly,
starting
reviewing
of
building
assessments
and
identifying
buildings
that
could
be
eligible
for
the
pilots,
who
kind
of
keep
building
that
business
case.