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A
On
this
agenda
there
isn't
the
the
remote
meeting
announcement.
We
still
need
to
do
that
right.
It's
not
on
the
agenda.
A
C
A
C
A
D
A
We
are
in
the
human
services
meeting
if
you
could
mute
yourself,
please
thank
you
for
joining.
A
A
A
Due
to
the
executive
order
issued
by
governor
jb,
pritzker
staff
recommends
a
suspension
of
the
rules
regarding
in-person
attendance
requirements
for
public
meetings
allowing
for
city
council
members
and
staff
to
participate
in
this
meeting
remotely.
May
I
have
a
motion
so
move
second
motion
passes.
We
will
continue
with
our
remote
meeting.
E
A
I
have
to
take
a
voice
to
vote.
Please.
F
A
B
List
sure
I
can
help
with
that
miss
esther
is
actually
out
listed
a
couple
different
times,
so
maybe
miss
esther
would
like
to
go.
B
F
I'm
here
on
the
moon,
I
will
be
happy
when
this
is
over.
What
because
there's
too
many
buttons
on
here
good
evening,
everybody
and
happy
new
year
to
you.
I
have
a
question
in
reference
to
the
items
that
aren't
it's
on
the
agenda.
F
That's
number
one
and
also
the
n-I-p-a-s
group.
F
We
can't
do
a
four-year.
We
are
on
unaffordable,
so
there
is
no
way
for
citizens
to
get
information
on
it.
It
would
be
great
to
see
the
city
step
in
and
work
with
scenes
and
hearing,
so
cnp
can
get
the
information
we
are
asking
for
right
now
we
have
two
for
you
with
90
different
municipalities
to
get
a
ticket
and
that's
hard
to
do
so.
We
are
asking
this
here
to
be
looked
at
and
that
to
be
part
of
the
discussion.
F
B
Yeah,
if
we
could
ask
everyone
to
go
ahead
and
mute
themselves,
if
they're
not
already,
the
next
person
is
zachary
watson.
If
he
is
available
on
the
call
here.
G
I
am
good
evening
everybody
and
happy
new
year
as
well.
My
comment
is,
and
is
a
a
question
to
be
considered
for
this
meeting
regarding
nypos
as
well.
We
have
found
text
messages
between
night
pass
officers
about
recent
protests
that
have
included
comments
about
hacking
into
protesters.
Memo
and
bank
accounts
expressing
pleasure
over
protesters
umbrellas
trapping
in
a
chemical
munition
that
was
fired
upon
them
on
october
31st.
G
We
have.
We
have
text
messages
of
night,
past
officers,
calling
northwestern
community.cops
a
quote
violent
hate
group,
suggesting
that
the
group
should
be
watched
by
an
intelligence
and
terrorism
fusion
center,
and
we
also
had
night
plus
officers
text
that
students
who
post
about
the
protests
online
should
be
criminally
charged.
G
A
We
hear
you
fine,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
we're
gonna
move
forward
with
three
minutes
for
all
the
public
comments.
Thank
you
all.
H
Right
perfect
good
evening,
and
thank
you
to
the
aldermen
for
holding
this
meeting.
My
name
is
alex
harrison,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
second
ward
and
I'm
a
second
year
journalism
student
at
northwestern,
my
colleagues,
zach
watson,
who
you
just
heard
from
and
myself
have
spent
the
last
couple
of
months
researching
and
writing
about
nypis,
which
we
have
published
to
a
northwestern
publication
called
seen
and
heard.
H
This
includes
the
following:
the
nipas
manual
and
the
identity
of
the
nypis
coordinator,
outlined
in
sections
7
and
8,
respectively,
of
standard
operating
procedure,
326-1
of
the
epd
policy
manual,
an
evidence
technician
report
written
by
e.t
witt
on
the
alleged
battering
of
knife's
officers
on
october
31st
mentioned
in
detective
kyle
pop's
narrative
report
on
the
night
and
the
names
and
amounts
of
chemical
agents
dispersed
by
nipas
officers.
At
protesters
on
the
night
of
halloween,
we
have
also
been
denied
access
to
two
emails
that
mention
myself
zach
or
seen
and
heard.
H
The
reason
given
was
that
they
pertain
to
a
quote
active
investigation
where
no
charges
have
been
filed.
We
are
concerned
that
this
denial
suggests
either
an
investigation
into
ourselves
or
the
use
of
our
reporting.
In
some
other
investigation.
This
denial
is
currently
under
review
by
the
illinois
public
access
counselor.
My
question
is
this:
what
will
you
chief
cook
do
to
remedy
these
lapses
in
transparency
and
compliance
with
foia
law
and
how
can
the
residents
of
evanston
trust
epd's
use
of
the
nypis
mobile
field
force
when
they
are
denied
access
to
critical
information
about
their
actions?
I
I
Has
the
law
department
provided
legal
guidance
on
how
nypos
relationships
should
be
managed,
for
example,
approvals
participation
activities,
authorities
for
managing
activities,
while
they
are
ongoing
records
to
be
maintained
of
those
activities,
review
of
evanson's
participation
in
the
activities
in
other
members
jurisdictions,
review
of
nypos
activities
conducted
within
edson,
including
citizens,
complaints
and
disciplinary
action?
These
are
all
things.
I'd
be
very
interested
in
getting
documentation
on.
I
Second
grouping
of
questions
is:
does
the
law
does
law
department,
give
legal
guidance
or
any
other
department?
That's
given
guidance
address
the
liability
that
shared
among
nypos
members
both
for
activities
conducted
within
evanston
and
without
when
there
are
officers
of
the
evanston
police
department
working
within
other
jurisdictions.
If
something
happens,
who's
holding
liability
there
does
our
insurance
policy
for
the
city
of
edinson
cover
these
liabilities.
B
J
Good
evening,
all
the
folks,
my
name
is
sean
pick
collier
and
I'm
a
member
of
cnp
as
a
resident
of
the
evanston
sixth
ward.
The
details
being
revealed
about
nypas
through
freedom
of
information
requests
are
deeply
disturbing.
There
are
many
questions
that
residents
would
like
to
know
more
answers
to,
and
it
is
our
hope
that
you
can
help
shine
some
light
on
the
organization
and
its
participation
in
recent
events.
J
So
far,
it's
known
that
naitas
as
an
organization
did
not
want
to
lend
aid
to
evanston
police
department
unless
they
were
given.
Approval
for
use
of
force
was
evanston
required
to
approve
the
deployment
of
less
lethal
force.
Who
gave
that
approval
was
that
approval
rubber
stamped
by
other
departments
or
city
supervisors?
J
J
We
also
know
that
nipas
members
are
staged
before
they
are
deployed,
so
why
was
there
no
epd
super
superior
on
site
ensuring
that
nibis
officers
were
complying
with
the
equipment
standards
that
are
required
to
be
deployed
in
evanston,
considering
the
level
of
complete
police
misconduct
and
brutality
that
has
been
reported
nationwide?
It
is
horrifying
to
know
that
knight
this
officers
put
tape
over
their
badges
and
numbers
right
here
in
evanston
black
lives
matter.
J
J
Furthermore,
if
a
commander
in
evanston
allowed
officers
to
operate
in
in
the
field
with
their
identification
obscured,
this
is
even
more
reason
for
investigation.
Finally,
it
is
known
that
nipas
claims
not
to
be
to
be.
It
is
known
that
neither
claims
to
be
untouchable
from
foia
requests
in
the
interest
of
transparency
and
accountability.
It
would
be
wonderful
to
see
the
city
step
in
and
work
with
cnn
heard
and
cnp
to
get
the
information
we're
seeking
in
the
interest
of
transparency,
accountability
and
commitment
to
public
safety.
J
D
All
right,
I'm
on
them,
hello,
hello!
Well,
I
really
thought
gonna
be
on
a
line
too,
because
I
was
called
in
request
of
what
she
wanted
to
be
done
by
getting
in
this
meeting
or
something
so
I'm
just
you
know,
being
a
spectator
and
find
out
what's
going
on.
K
K
K
I
Janine
had
to
do
something,
I
know
a
question
she
wants
to
ask.
Can
I
ask
it
for
her.
A
I
Were
officers
in
charge
of
the
troop
movements
when
naipas
was
in
the
streets?
Who
was
in
control
of
that.
A
Thank
you
and
that
conclude
concludes
our
public
comment.
It
looks
like
we
have
items
for
consideration
next,
are
there
any,
and
then
we
have
items
for
discussion?
Hs1,
the
northern
illinois
police
alarm
system
staff
recommends
the
human
services
committee
review
the
documentation
in
the
memorandum.
So
this
is
for
discussion,
hello.
L
Yes,
alderman
good
afternoon,
everybody
happy
new
year
to
all
the
citizens
to
all
the
elected
officials.
Yes,
I
have
a.
I
have
a
presentation
and
I
will
proceed
when
you.
Let
me
know
it's:
okay,.
L
Okay,
you
all
received
a
memo
correct
with
the
outline
and
just
for
public
knowledge.
L
L
The
financial
cost
of
knife
is
to
the
city
of
evanston,
the
2020
annual
membership
fee
of
six
thousand
two
hundred
and
five
dollars,
we'll
talk
about
the
direct
overtime
costs
related
to
northwestern
university
protests
of
19
500
585.48
and
the
total
cost
of
of
having
knifeless
the
indirect
cost
of
having
nitrous
at
the
university
events,
88
435
for
all
personnel
related
costs,
personnel
assigned
to
the
nypis
emergency
service
team
and
the
mobile
field
force.
L
L
L
and
then
we'll
go
into
open
for
discussion.
L
So
in
1982
it
was
severe
flooding
in
the
northern
suburbs
and
several
communities
along
the
north
shore
were
devastated
by
this
flooding,
and
then
they
soon
realized
that,
although
they
were
able
to
deal
with
the
flooding
situations
and
the
strains
that
it
put
on
those
municipalities
in
terms
of
workload
in
terms
of
personnel
and
equipment,
they
realized
that
they
needed
to
come
up
with
a
better
way
to
organize
and
have
pre-planned
responses
to
these
emergency
situations.
L
The
following
year,
15
chiefs
from
agencies
in
northern
illinois
and
southern
lake
county
established
nypis
through
an
intergovernment
intergovernmental
mutual
aid
agreement.
This
legal
document
authorized
neighboring
agencies
to
work
together
in
times
of
need
in
1988,
written
bylaws
were
formalized
for
the
original
agreement
knife.
The
is
organization
has
a
governing
board
consisting
of
police
chiefs
that
direct
knife
and
approves
its
annual
budget,
which
serves
as
the
basis
for
all
nypis
expenditures.
L
Agencies
pay
a
set
annual
fee
to
participate
and,
as
I
stated
a
little
bit
earlier,
that
annual
fee
for
2020
was
6
hundred
and
five
dollars
so
to
get
knife
is
here.
We
we,
we
pull,
alarms
and
each
alarm
to
knife
us
to
the
northwest.
L
L
So
when
we
look
at
how
we
plan
for
protests,
we
look
at
what's
going
on
not
only
locally,
but
we
look
at
what's
going
on
on
a
national
basis
when
it
comes
to
the
protests,
and
we
look
at
the
conduct
of
the
participants
in
these
protests
over
a
period
of
time.
L
As
you
all
know,
in
the
summer
of
19,
I'm
sorry.
In
the
summer
of
2020,
we
had
approximately
21
protests
in
front
of
the
evanston
police
department
with
everston
black
lives
matter,
and
my
goal
in
any
of
these
situations
is
to
allow
people
the
freedom
of
speech,
the
freedom
of
expression.
L
L
We
bought
out
our
clergy
team
and
our
problem
solving
team
to
engage
the
students
and,
if
any
of
you
all
were
present
during
that
time,
you'll
know
that
toward
the
end
of
those
protests,
they
would
have
like
peace
circles
in
front
of
the
station
with
students,
clergy,
members
and
problem
solving
team
members.
So
that
worked
out
really
well.
L
When
it
came
to
the
northwestern
university
students,
we
allowed
the
university
students
to
protest
peacefully
for
20
some
days
until
the
31st
of
december.
We
we
made
sure
that
they
had
passageway
in
the
streets,
even
though
none
of
these
these
organizations
that
protested
with
northwestern
none
of
them
had
permits
to
do
so.
But
we
recognize
in
the
good
of
the
public
that
we
should
allow
that
and
we
provided
safe
passage
in
the
streets.
L
L
It
turned
into
a
different
way:
it
it
became
violent
and
it
became
violent
because
of
the
actions
of
the
protesters.
L
Now
any
time
nypis
is
deployed
in
this
town
and
it's
the
same
way
for
those
of
you
all
that
don't
know.
I
have
vast
experience
in
dealing
with
multi-jurisdictional
task
force.
I
was
the
president
and
commanding
officer
of
cert,
which
is
the
south
suburban
emergency
response
team
vice
president
and
president
for
seven
years.
L
Cert
is
the
largest
swat
team
in
the
state
of
illinois,
and
it
is
the
most
active
swat
team
in
illinois,
also
even
having
more
incidents
than
the
chicago
police
department
and
I've
worked
in
in
various
situations
with
the
dea
fbi,
chicago
police,
cook,
county
est
and
a
number
of
other
task
force
that
work
in
conjunction
with
each
other
to
mitigate
violence
and
keep
the
situation
safe
in
our
communities
anytime.
L
We
call
in
mutual
aid,
I'm
the
commanding
officer,
and
I
worked
every
protest
that
northwestern
university
students
were
at,
and
I
worked
every
protest
on
every
sunday
that
the
students
in
front
of
the
station
were
at
and
that's
because
I
wanted
to
go
the
way.
I
think
the
citizens
in
evanston
would
like
to
see
a
situation
go
with
respect
to
protests
and
our
young
students.
L
Now
let
me
tell
you
something
about
a
number
of
us
here
at
the
evanston
police
department.
We
love
the
university.
I
I
I'm
sorry
it's
closed
down.
We
utilize
the
library
over
there
we
eat
in
the
norris
student
center.
I've
had
phd
students
since
I've
been
chief
work
here
and
do
they
doctorial
work
here.
L
L
I
have
a
son,
that's
a
law.
School
student
at
lsu
he's
a
second
year
law,
school
student
and
when
I
send
him
down
there,
it
is
my
wish
that
the
police
department
there
will
protect.
L
My
kid
will:
respect
his
rights
and
so
forth
when,
when
the
parents
of
these
kids
drop
their
kids
off
here
in
evanston,
they're,
counting
on
me
to
protect
them,
they're
counting
on
me
to
provide
guidance
when
necessary
and
to
be
less
intrusive
on
their
life
as
possible,
and
we
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
that
here.
I
think
at
everton
police
department,
we
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
arrest
a
lot
of
students,
it's
not
really
a
lot
of
violent
crime
over
there.
L
So
it's
no
really
no
need
for
us
to
be
heavy-handed
over
there
and
we
have
not
been
so
any
decision
that
is
made
when
knifers
is
called
to
the
scene.
I
demetrius
cook.
Police
chief
is
the
one
that's
responsible
for,
and
I
take
100
responsibility
in
whatever
happens,
it
is
my
judgment
on
how
things
are
put
forth
from
any
of
these
multi-jurisdictional
task
force,
whether
it's
nypis
nortaf,
which
is
the
north
regional,
major
crimes,
task
force
or
the
major
accident
team.
L
L
We're
not
allowed
to
be
antagonistic
in
a
way
to
cause
a
reaction
where
we
can
take
enforcement
action,
and
I
never
let
that
happen
in
any
situation
where
I'm
the
commanding
officer
and
out
of
seven
years
of
running
the
largest
swat
team
in
the
state.
I
never
had
a
situation
with
that.
I
never
had
civil
litigation
around
that
particular
type
of
situation,
so
I
take
responsibility
when
it
comes
to
what
goes
on
in
this
town.
In
naples,
we
have
all
of
the
nypis
contact
with
northwestern
university
students.
L
On
the
31st
of
october
on
video,
I
have
reviewed
the
video
it's
open
for
aldermen
to
see
the
video
that
video
is
part
of
an
ongoing
investigation,
because
it
has
not
been
determined
if
any
other
students
will
be
charged
if
they
can
be
identified.
L
L
I
don't
agree
with
that,
but
sometimes
the
action
of
people
necessitate
that
and
that's
what
the
situation
was
on
the
31st.
Now
the
31
day,
it
was
more
than
31
days
of
protest,
one
student
got
arrested
and
there
were
several
opportunities
for
more
of
them
to
be
arrested
when
they
started
fires
when
they're
destroying
property.
L
The
sidewalk
cafes,
when
they're
breaking
out
windows
to
the
establishments
here
in
this
town,
and
I
want
the
students
to
know
that
you're,
a
visitor
here,
the
city
of
evanston,
the
business
people
here,
have
a
right
to
maintain
their
property
in
a
way
that's
fit
for
all
of
evanston,
including
each
of
you.
L
So
the
line
was
drawn
once
it
became
violent
which
was
perpetrated
by
I'm,
not
sure.
If
all
of
those
people
there
were
students,
we
know
some
of
them
were
anarchists,
which
may
be
termed
as
a
subversive
group,
and
they
were
starting
to
destroy
evanston
business
property
downtown
and
the
disruption
of
the
downtown
area
went
on
for
more
than
30
days
and
one
student
got
arrested.
L
Now,
certainly,
if
I
get
a
complaint
about
the
activity
of
a
knife's
officer
and
it
better
not
be
an
evanston
officer,
I
will
forward
it
to
the
appropriate
authorities
that
manage
the
nypis
team
and
I
haven't
gotten
any
of
those
complaints.
Yet
if
you
review
the
video
you'll
see,
we
acted
appropriately
when
you
utilize
force
in
any
situation,
it's
a
progression
of
force.
L
I
can
tell
you
from
my
my
swat
knowledge.
You
know
you'll
start
out
with
pepper
balls,
then
you'll
go
to
cs,
then
you'll
go
to
tear
gas,
but
in
between
those
steps,
there's
several
mitigation
processes
that
go
into
effect,
so
they
got
the
first
round
of
pepper
ball
to
kind
of
like
disperse
the
crop
that
was
out
there.
I
authorized
it
to
push
that
group
back.
They
throwing
bricks
they
launching
rocket
motors
at
the
police
officers.
L
Police
officers
were
being
blinded
by
lasers
being
shined
in
a
face,
so
it
was,
it
certainly
exceeded
what
black
lives
matter
is
about
black
lives
matter.
Is
a
non-violent
group
that
it
is
designed
to
address
injustice
in
law
enforcement
non-violent.
L
So
when
that
situation
turns
violent,
I
don't
care
if
it's
black
lives
matter
or
any
other
group
if
it
turns
violent
and
it's
detrimental
to
the
public.
Here,
it's
my
job,
the
citizens
of
evanston,
put
me
in
this
position
to
uphold
the
law
and
I'll
uphold
the
law,
no
matter
who
it
is
in
this
town,
everybody
has
the
right
in
his
town
to
be
in
a
situation
free
of
violence,
free
of
violence.
L
Now
some
of
these
people
want
to
make
it
like
knife
was
the
perpetrator
and
they
want
to
turn
the
situation
around.
That's
that's
their
right
to
do
so,
but
believe
me,
I
am
here
to
listen
to
complaints.
I
am
here
to
address
any
complaints
and
forward
it
to
the
appropriate
people
in
nipas.
L
I'm
told
that
they
have
numbers
on
versus
name
tags
and
badge
numbers
and
that's
to
protect
their
rights
and
and
their
safety,
because
some
of
these
groups
that
they're
up
helping
us
mitigate
not
only
in
everything
in
a
in
a
lot
of
these
115
suburbs
that
they
serve,
they
can
be
violent
and
they
can
retaliate
on
these
police
officers
by
gathering
and
publishing
all
of
their
information,
a
home
address,
name
phone
number
and
all
of
that
and
have
people
show
up
at
the
house.
L
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
operate
in
that
sense,
okay,
88
000
in
total
cost
doing
a
pandemic
from
some
of
our
greatest
residents
is,
is
uncalled
for.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
We
have
people
losing
jobs
in
this
town.
L
It's
it's
devastating
to
the
organization
here
when
we
lost
14
police
officers,
and
then
we
got
88
000
coming
out
of
our
budget
for
unnecessary
overtime.
When,
if
the
situation
hadn't
been
peaceful,
if
it
hadn't
stayed
peaceful,
maybe
we
could
have
not
spent
as
much
money
go
ahead
ultimate.
You
got
something
yeah.
M
I
just
while
you're
you
answered
some
questions
already
that
the
cmp
had
emailed
us
earlier,
but
can
you
just
break
down
for
people
who
aren't
looking
at
the
memo
of
the
88
000.?
That's
just
for
overtime
for
our
officers.
We're
not
paying
nice
officers.
Is
that
correct.
L
Yes,
ma'am
we
when
we
when
knife
is
responds
here,
their
their
their
personnel,
is
paid
by
their
individual
agencies.
L
Now,
during
that,
we
have
to
staff
up
our
own
personnel,
because
we
have
to
have
not
only
the
full
personnel
that
we
put
over
there
because
after
we
evaluate
a
situation
a
lot
of
times,
knifers
may
say:
okay,
we'll
give
you
40
officers
for
this,
or
if
we
can
articulate
credible
evidence
that
it
could
be
violent.
They'll,
say:
okay,
we'll
give
you
a
hundred
officers.
L
So
the
staffing
levels
fluctuated
from
knifers
from
incident
to
incident,
but
what
they
did
was
made
us
have
to
push
officers
that
would
normally
be
doing
detective
work
that
would
normally
be
in
ops
that
would
normally
be
in
training
or
or
any
other
units
in
this
police
department.
We
have
to
push
them
toward
that
scene
so
that
88
000
is
the
19
000
that
we
had
to
pay
out
in
cash
plus
the
man
power
costs
associated
with
staffing
it
up,
so
that
we'd
have
a
full
complement
of
people
at
these
things.
L
That's
for
officers
we
had
to
call
in
and
pay
overtime
or,
if
our
officer,
like
a
lot
of
these
events,
started
at
just
as
it
was
starting
to
get
dark,
we
would
hold
a
day
shift
over.
We
would
hold
a
detective
day
shift
detective
personnel
over
and
sometime
on
the
other
end,
we
will
call
in
the
the
afternoon
shift
people
early.
M
L
The
calculation
of
what
it
would
cost,
if
I'm
billing
in
man
hours
so
if
I'm
sending
100
cops
down
there
and
they
they
each
there
two
hours
in
I
got
200
man
hours
that
I
have
to
account
for
in
terms
of
money.
L
That's
how
you
put
a
dollar
amount
on
a
situation
and
and
bring
clarity
to
it.
L
Not
sure
I
I
know
the
city
manager
has
spoke
about
that,
but
I
do
believe
mr
lewis,
who's,
the
chief
of
of
the
university
police
department,
said
that
that
was
something
that
they
would
look
at.
We
had
you
know
when
you
look
at
total
calls.
L
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
costs
we
had
to
get
spray
paint
off
of
the
police
department,
get
derogatory
language
about
cops,
wives
and
mothers
off
of
the
sidewalk.
L
L
I
should
be
responsibly
budgeting
every
year
and
not
exceeding
resources
that
I
need
to
achieve
my
organizational
goals
and
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
when
you
look
at
the
cost
to
what
was
done
in
the
downtown
area
with
spray
paint
and
things
of
that
nature
is
it's
devastating
to
this
time
and
I
love
this
town
and
I
love
the
university.
L
Let's
make
it
clear
that
university
is
an
asset
to
this
police
department
and
they've
been
an
asset,
and
I
want
them
to
continue
to
be
an
asset,
because
I've
never
went
to
northwestern
university
and
not
got
some
help.
L
Last
year
we
sent
10
supervisors
to
staff
of
command.
At
northwestern
university,
we
sent
three
police
officers
to
the
three-week
executive
management
at
northwestern
university.
I've
been
a
proponent
of
northwestern
university
since
I
became
a
supervisor
in
1995,
because
my
chief
back
then
chief
kaminsky
saw
value
there
and
sent
us
there
for
our
education.
L
So
when
it
comes
to
utilizing
law
enforcement,
education
and
looking
at
institutions-
and
there
are
many
of
them-
it's
smip
at
harvard
university-
there's
the
senior
management
institute
down
in
louisville
kentucky.
L
I
look
to
northwestern
for
a
whole
lot
of
things
and
I'm
hoping
that,
even
though
we
had
this
darkness
in
2020
with
us
as
an
organization,
I
want
everybody,
miss
esther,
zach
and
alex.
I
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
not
here
to
be
an
adversary,
I'm
here
to
to
push
what's
right
and
if
something
was
done
wrong.
I'm
gonna
tell
you
how
I
I
face
things
that
I
do
wrong.
L
L
L
Spread
out
between
mobile
field
force,
emergency
services
and
and
the
bicycle
patrol
now
we
don't
use.
2020
was
a
year
that
I
have
never
seen,
and
I've
been
a
policeman
for
40
years
all
right,
and
I
never
seen
a
time
in
my
career
where
we
have
to
call
out
knifers
as
much
as
we
did
in
2020.
L
sometime
it'll
be
once
a
year
or
not
at
all.
We
had
a
barricaded
gunman
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
over
the
fifth
ward,
they
showed
up
made
a
couple
of
announcements
and
a
person
came
out.
It
was
peaceful
when
we
call
out
emergency
services,
which
is
the
swat
team.
What
people
have
to
understand
is
that
they
have
tools
and
services
to
help
mitigate
the
situation
that
you
all
may
not
be
aware
of.
L
The
first
move
is
the
safety
of
all
of
the
residents
in
that
immediate
area,
so
we're
going
to
evacuate
that
area
and
make
sure
none
of
the
neighbors
can
become
part
of
a
gun
battle
or
be
in
the
line
of
a
situation
like
that.
Then
we're
gonna
try
to
make
contact
with
a
person
with
professional
negotiators
and
or
psychologists
in
an
effort
to
talk
them
out
and
we're
here
for
a
long
haul
on
talking
them
out.
L
It's
not
if,
if
you
got
not
out
in
two
minutes,
we
gonna
push
it
and
make
it
a
violent
confrontation
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
that
is
what
the
supreme
court
said.
We
cannot
do
as
swat
teams,
so
we
utilize
all
types
of
we
utilize,
the
military.
L
You
know
if
we
have
a
military
veteran
that
is
going
through
a
depression
or
something
and
he's
in
a
house.
We
call
him
military
and
we
get
the
military
we'll
send
they
psychologists
and
they
command
them.
Officers
out
and
I've
seen
it
work
they
get
on
the
phone
and
they
talk
with
the
person
for
10
or
15
minutes
and
in
the
in
the
soldier.
It's
coming
out
of
the
house.
L
So
that's
how
I
like
to
see
these
situations
handle
with
things
outside
of
force.
M
L
Last
year
you
know
during
the
protest
we
called
knife
us
out
ten
times
we
had
ten
call
outs
and
then
we
had
seven
standbys
sometime.
We
anticipated
danger,
but
we
weren't
really
sure
so.
We'd
have
a
knife
and
stage
somewhere
out
of
you
a
lot
of
times.
They
were
sitting
here
in
a
police
department
or
in
the
fire
department,
training
room,
and
sometimes
we
needed
them.
Sometimes
we
didn't
need
them.
We
sent
them
on
their
way,
but
those
are
the
exact
numbers,
all
of
them.
A
M
A
M
And
some
of
these
I
will
give
credit
to
cnb.
They
sent
some
questions
over
some.
I
have
myself,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
this
conversation
going.
So
can
you
help
us
understand-
and
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
municipalities,
but
why
naipas
does
not
have
to
comply
with
the
foyer
rules
with
the
foil.
L
They
set
up
their
organization
like
that,
a
couple
of
years:
back
liability
for
knifer's
activity,
rest
on
the
city
that
called
them
out.
So
if
I
call
knifers
out
or
the
swat
team-
and
let's
just
say
it's
a
death
or
injury
and
it
turns
into
civil
litigation,
the
agency
that
requested
knife
is
responsible
under
their
insurance
for
the
litigation
and
irma
the
insurance
agency,
that
a
lot
of
municipalities
they
drafted
that
probably
about
four
years
ago,
and
not
only
does
nypis
work
under
those
rules.
M
Okay,
and
so
when
you
mention
that
some
of
the
officers
wearing
badge
numbers
and
not
names.
L
I
asked
about
that
because
I
saw
that
zach
and
him
had
wrote
about
that.
So
I
asked
the
president-
and
he
said
they
have
numbers
on
now.
If
they
get
a
number,
they
know
who
that
officer
is
neither,
but
they
don't
want
the
people
who
they're
there
protesting
and
some
of
the
violent
extremists
that
be
acting.
L
Some
of
these
protests
not
necessarily
saying
at
the
northwestern
deal,
but
they
work
in
a
hundred
and
some
municipality
and
it's
always
a
probability
that
it
could
be
some
subversive
there
that
want
to
do
harm
to
these
police
officers.
So
we
keep
their
name
confidential,
but
we
know
who
they
are.
We
know
who's
assigned
and
so
forth
and
we
know
who's
on
the
scene.
There.
M
Okay
and
so
nick,
can
you
just
help
us
tend
to
understand,
because
I
know
foyer
particularly
around
police
stuff
is
a
it's
a
big
issue.
How
does
that
fall
within
you
know
our
commitment
to
foia
as
a
city.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
boys.
These
last
four
years.
C
So
it
shouldn't
really
affect.
If
the.
If
the
city
has
the
requisite
documents,
then
we
should
be
producing
them
in
compliance
with
foia.
If
there's
an
exemption,
we
should
be,
they
should
be
exempted.
If
there
is
no
exemption,
then
they
should
be
released
and
and
to
to
chief
cook's
point.
Nypis
is
sort
of
like
a
diffuse
organization,
so
it
in
and.
N
C
Itself
doesn't
have
and
actually
isn't
a
governmental,
it's
not
a
municipality
that
will
be
subject
to
foia,
but
but
it
it's
a
diffuse
organization,
so
the
individual
entities
that
are
members
would
be
subject
to
foia.
So
it's
a
matter
of
identifying
which
organization
that
the
foia
request
needs
to
be
submitted
to
it
shouldn't
be,
as
one
of
the
commenters
said
earlier.
Well,
they
should
just
be
able
to
submit
the
foia
request
to
evanston
and
evanston
get
a
hold
of
the
documents
from
some
other
entity.
C
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
last
question
I
have
here
that's
a
kind
of
short
one.
Is
we
all,
as
a
council
received
the
twitter
link,
I
think
it
maybe
was
alex's,
I'm
not
sure,
and
then
I
spent
some
time
trying
to
go
through
lots
of
foia
documents
from
other
municipalities
that
had
to
do
with
nipas
and
saw
some
of
the
concerning
language
that
was
used
by
officers,
which
I
I
don't
think
are
evident
officers.
M
But
it
was
a
little
bit
hard
to
tell
because
it
was
a
lot
of
information
and
I
did
look
at
some
of
the
video
provided.
M
You
know
both
online
and
then
from
our
epd,
and
there
was,
I
remember,
a
picture
of
an
officer
and
not
not
all
officers,
I'm
sure
where
they
did
have
tape
over
what
I
assume
would
be
their
number,
so
they
have
on.
What
I
guess
is
this
nightmarish,
uniform
with
some
kind
of
crest,
and
I
can
I
can
email
it
over
to
you
all,
because
I
have
a
screenshot
of
it,
but
that
you
know.
M
That
is
the
kind
of
thing
where
I
understand
chief
you're
saying
you
know
you
don't
condone,
but
obviously
we
know
in
any
profession.
We
do
have
individuals
who
do
their
own
thing.
So
I
think
you
know,
as
we
look
further
and
speak
further
about
this
issue.
My
question
is:
chief:
have
you
looked
at
some
of
the
foia
materials
that
the
northwestern
students
or
anybody
else
has
found,
particularly
where
it
has
languished
that
you
know
as
an
evans
and
city
council
member?
I
would
not
condone
when
they
speak
of
our.
M
L
Yes,
ma'am,
I
had
conversation
with
the
vice
president
of
nypis
and
the
leader
of
the
mobile
field
force
about
those
emails.
You
know-
and
here
you
know
what
I
with
our
with
our
policy
on
social
media.
L
You
know
if,
even
if
you
are
on
social
media
and
what
you're
talking
about
impacts
the
organization,
then
it
could
be
something
that
we
would
look
to
you
for
in
terms
of
discipline,
and
we
have
done
that
in
one
situation
with
the
citizen
network
of
protection
and
I'm
hoping
that
they
can
see
that
if
you
bring
it
to
me
and
I
find
out
that
it's
valid,
then
I'm
going
to
take
the
appropriate
action
and,
as
I
stated
ultimately,
we
did
do
that
in
one
situation
with
the
citizen
network
for
protection.
M
Okay,
so
I
would
just
wrap
my
you
know
statement
up
with.
I
am
you
know
I've
chosen
not
to
be
a
police
officer.
I
I
understand
their
job
is
taxing,
but
I
also
understand
the
citizen
point,
particularly
as
you
said
now
in
this
last
year,
with
so
much
tension
in
the
air
that
our
citizens
do
have
very
high
expectations
for
our
officers
in
terms
of
behavior
and
conduct,
and
I
would
say
the
same
high
expectations
for
nypis
if
they're
coming
into
our
town,
at
your
request.
M
M
I
know
that
that
that
one
night
in
particular
was
one
that
we
hadn't
seen
before.
I
mean
I'm
glad
that
no
one
was
hurt,
but
I
do
think
you
know
there
was.
M
There
was
lots
of
concern
by
citizens
and
I
have
some
of
the
some
concern,
not
as
maybe
all
of
it
about
some
of
the
conversation
and
some
of
the
behavior
from
the
nypis,
and
I'm
going
to
send
you
this
text
message
now
of
the
officer
with
no
number,
but
you
know
just
the
behavior
and
what
our
expectations
are
here
and
the
the
last
point
that
I
do
remember
as
an
edison
thing
is:
there
was
a
email
I
believe
from
maybe
oak
brook
police
about
them.
M
M
So,
as
you
return
to
nipas,
you
know
whatever
you
can
do
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
about
what
our
policing
is,
and
I
appreciate
you
saying
you're,
you
know
you're
on
the
same
there,
but
obviously
particularly
that
night
there's
a
lot
of
people,
it's
very
dark.
You
got
bricks
and
fireworks
and
whatever
else
going
on
so
you
can't,
I
don't
expect
you
to
be
able
to
manage
every
officer
there,
but
we
give
a
very
clear
understanding
of
what
our
expectations
are
for
treatment
of
our
citizens
and
respect
level.
Here
in
evanston.
L
Yes,
ma'am,
and
you
know
it
was
four
four
police
officers
injured
on
that
night,
and
you
know
it's
also
some
responsibility
on
graduate
students,
upper
upper
level,
students
at
the
university
and
one
of
the
greatest
universities
in
the
world,
but
they
want
to
come
out
and
create
havoc
in
our
town.
L
We
recognize
systemic
racism,
we
recognize
systemic
racism
and
we
have
been
proactive
here
at
the
evanston
police
department
in
trying
to
work
post,
george
floyd
and
solving
some
of
these
systemic
issues
and
bringing
up
bettering
our
use
of
force
policy,
taking
strong
advice
from
some
of
the
greatest
professors
in
the
world
that
are
willing
to
work
with
us
from
northwestern
university.
L
L
So
that's
going
to
prove
to
the
town
that
we're
working
to
pull
forth
good,
strong,
solid
ethical
policies
and
procedures
in
our
administration
to
test
us
here-
and
you
know
it
was
very
taxing
for
the
police
officer,
but
that's
what
they
get
paid
to
do
and.
M
Agree
about
the
officers
we
you
know,
I
I
don't
not
the
officers
I
hear
about
the
students.
Obviously
that's
not
under
my
purview,
the
northwestern
students
and
I
think
that's
a
conversation
about
northwestern
student
behavior
that
we're
having
next
month.
I
would
have
just
assumed
that
northwestern
police
force
be
the
ones
who
were
out
there
manning
you
know
their
own
students
and
the
protest
that
was
against
their
police
and
their
university
so
that
we
didn't
have
this
88
000
bill
in
this
long
conversation.
But
you
know
that's
not
what
happened.
M
N
Thank
you
miss
chair
and
chief.
I
just
want
to
slow
down
and
and
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
and
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
detailed
report.
N
I
have
a
sense
that
there
are
some
people
on
this
call
and
we've
had
to
deal
with
this
throughout
the
trump
administration
that
have
a
feeling
just
because
you
may
play
a
different
role.
They
seem
to
forget
that
our
skin
is
black
and
I
think
we've
lost
some
focus
in
this
conversation,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
highlighting
it.
N
I
think
it
takes
a
different
tone,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
to
say
after
this
discussion
part
of
me
that
you've
already
addressed
that.
But
I
think
it's
clear
that
at
least
to
me,
if
we
didn't
have
the
violence
from
outsiders
coming
into
our
community
residents,
threatening
property
residents
threatening
violence
residents.
N
N
N
We
can
all
agree
as
we
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
that
we
don't
need
that
violence
in
order
to
bring
change.
You
definitely
don't
need
that
violence
to
take
to
capture
my
attention,
but
we
do
not
need
that
level
of
violence
or
destruction
of
property
vandalism
of
property
in
order
for
us
to
create
change
in
this
town.
So
thank
you
very
much,
chief
cook.
A
Again,
thank
you
chief.
I
can't
add
anything
more
to
ottoman
braithwaite's
comments
and
if
there's
no
further
discussion
next,
we
have
madame.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
ottoman.
O
Right
yeah.
Well
I
I
echo
my
colleagues
comments
and
chief.
I
I
appreciate
the
high
standards
that
you
set
for
our
police
department.
I
and
your
you
know
your
thoughtful
care
for
the
community.
O
My
concern
with
nypis
is
you
know
whether
they're
going
to
follow
that
same
care
and
caution
that
you
set
for
for
the
our
police
officers.
I
mean
they.
They
are
really
scary,
looking
people
and
they
just
don't,
they
don't
feel
like
evanston,
and
I
so
I'm
struggling
with
you
know
our
need
to
bring
them
in
when
there's
violence
and
and
destruction
of
property.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
covering
up
of
their
numbers
on
their
uniform.
Do
they.
I
have
a
question
about.
L
O
Ma'am,
yes,
okay,
but
yeah
I
mean
I.
I
guess
I
feel
grateful
that
nothing
really
escalated
beyond
what
we
saw,
because
I
I
think
there
I
think,
there's
a
legitimate
concern
that
it
could
have.
There
could
have
been
something
more
more.
That
would
have
happened.
That
would
have
been
really
tragic.
O
So
I
appreciate
all
your
sharing
with
us
about
how
the
process
that
you
use
to
determine
when
to
bring
the
nypus
forces
in
to
help
and.
L
These
services
that
knifers
provide
are
services
that
are
put
forth
nationwide
and
we
only
to
use
them
when
the
situation
exceeds
our
operational
financial
capabilities
and
or
what
we
can
effectively
deal
with
in
terms
of
danger-
and
I
understand
you
know
when,
when
these
groups
come
in
here,
I'm
worried
about
the
people
in
my
time
these
cops
will
tell
you
any
of
these
commanders
are
telling
you
I
wanted
to
be,
as
least
intrusive
on
them
in
terms
of
arrests
and
and
violence,
or
the
perception
of
violence
between
the
public
and
the
police
as
possible,
and
I
expressed
that
hey.
L
L
L
I
have
never
seen
anything
like
that
and
I'm
one
of
the
few
guys,
I'm
probably
the
only
guy
around
here
that
dealt
with
a
protest
in
this
situation
in
this
type
of
situation
before
and
that's
going
back
into
the
ricky
bird
song
deal
with
the
nazis
on
campus
and
stuff,
like
that
protesting
art,
the
butts
and
all
those
kind
of
people
on
the
university
campus.
L
So
I
I
I
wanted
to
explain
it
as
truthfully
and
as
clear-cut
as
possible
and
where
everybody
could
understand
that
we're
not
just
calling
people
in
here
to
do
violence
to
our
own
people
in
this
town.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chief
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
the
discussion.
Next,
we
have
item
hs1,
I'm
sorry
hs.
A
M
F
I
have
a
question,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
because
doing
this
different
and
I
should
have
said
yes,
I
wanted
to
speak
on
two
topics,
but
before
you
vote
on
this,
I
need
you
to
think
about
it.
I
was
a
young
lady
that
came
to
that
committee
and
she
presented
her
case
and,
and
it
was
thrown
out
because
the
the
city
or
the
police
department
whoever's,
the
keeper
of
the
videos,
had
destroyed
the
videos
because
it
was
90
days
and
they
denied
her
complaint.
A
In
the
future,
public
comment
is
a
designated
time.
We
cannot
have
interruptions
because
it
would
not
be
fair
now
everyone
interrupted.
So
on
that
note
there
was
a
public
commenter
that
possibly
had
technical
difficulties.
Luke.
Can
you
call
the
name
one
last
time
to
see
if
they
were
able
to
join
in.
A
E
You
so
much
I
was
having
technical
difficulty
my
issue
and
thank
you
guys
for
your
allowing
me
to
present
this.
My
issue
was,
I
have.
E
I
had
filed
a
complaint
with
the
evanston
police
department
about
about
a
about
the
handling.
I
feel
that
the
handling
of
my
case
was
a
total
disservice
that
was
provided
to
me
by
the
evaston
police
department,
and
I
I
made
a
call
to
the
police
department
and
there
were
like
various
things
that
happened
that
led
to
a
statement
that
was
generated
that
I
didn't
know
that
was
generated.
E
It
was
a
domestic
disturbance
and
I
didn't
know
there
was
a
statement
and,
on
this
statement,
was
tons
of,
I
feel
and
believe
and
and
trust
that
it
was
basically
considered
falsified
information
and,
as
a
result,
there
was
the
the
officers
that
were
involved
in
this
this.
This
incident
in
reporting
this
case.
E
That
officer,
which
was
the
lead
officer,
was
from
what
I
understand
is
being
exonerated,
and
I
don't
agree
with
that
wholeheartedly.
100
percent,
because
of
how
him,
as
being
the
lead
officer,
allowed
and
pursued
this
case,
along
with
the
investigation
and
information
that
was
provided,
alleging
that
I
made
a
statement,
that
was
not
me
at
all.
It
was
made
by
the
offender
and
that
basically
took
charge
of
the
investigation
from
what
I
can
see
and
that's
why
that
internet
officer
was
exonerated.
That's
the
problem
that
I'm
having
with
the
evanston
police
department.
E
I
am
a
resident
of
chicago,
and
so
there
was
information.
This
is
my
first
time
doing
this,
so
please
forgive
me
so
the
information
such
information
being
that
it
it
was
stated
on
the
on
the
statement
on
the
report
that
I
was
intoxicated
and
as
being
intoxicated
a
lot
of
of
these.
This
was
pretty
much
the
driver
of
everything
that
happened
and
I'll
try
to
make
this
quick.
There
was
when
I
made
the
call,
because
I
was
in
jeopardy.
I
felt
that
I
was
in
danger.
E
E
Well,
well,
there's
just
a
with
a
lot
of
false
information
that
was
reported
such
and
and
things
that
weren't
reported
and
I
and
and
I
and
I
think
that
this
report
is
based
on
false
information,
and
I
don't
and
I
would
I
need,
and
it
wasn't
and
the
way
I
was
dealt
with
and
asked
questions.
I
was
not
asked
questions
in
a
way
so
that
I
could
give
them
the
right
information
I
wanted
to
come
in,
but
the
pandemic
allowed
me
not
to
do
that.
E
M
M
A
Agree,
I
agree
so
nick
what
would
be
our
option
to
hold
this
one
and
place
it
on
a
future
agenda.
C
I
mean
it's
only
an
item
for
I'm
trying
to
pull
the
agenda
back.
A
Right
now
we're
just
placing
it
on
file
so
that
doesn't
keep
us
from
any
further
investigation
or
feedback
with
the
chief
and
the
police
just
trying
to.
C
C
N
Can
I
make
a
suggestion
all
been
flaming
all
day,
what
we've
done
in
the
past
in
a
situation
like
this
nick
is
weak?
You
know
maybe
not
for
this
meeting,
but
we
can.
We
can
calendar
it
for
executive
session
prior
to
our
council
meeting,
where
we
can
all
look
at
the
tape
and
see
if
there
are
questions
that
we
may
that
we
may
have.
P
D
P
Lodged
close
to
two
years
after
it
occurred
per
state
statute,
we
keep
video
unless
it's
tagged,
which
means
that
it's
an
arrest.
It's
given
a
category
so
by
by
statute
the
categories
dictate
how
long
we
keep
the
video
if
a
complainant
does
not.
Let
us
know
within
that
90
days,
which
most
municipalities
are
between
three
months
and
six
months.
After
that,
you
cannot
file
a
complaint.
We're
one
of
the
only
municipalities
that
I
know
of
that
allows
a
two-year
window
for
complaint.
P
We
just
feasibly
cannot
keep
video
for
two
years,
so
there
is
no
video,
there's
no
911
recordings,
because
our
office
was
not
notified
of
this
until
almost
two
years
after
so
we
have
no
no
way
to
retroactively.
Get
that
information
once
it's
deleted.
So
there
is
nothing
I
could
do
on
this
case.
Okay,
okay,.
M
Video,
we
don't
keep
like,
I
guess,
a
written
I
guess
would
be
written,
but
like
a
computer
log
of
the
9-1-1.
P
When
we
have,
we
have
the
log,
it's
all
it
was
all
in
the
investigation.
Citizen,
police
review
commission
looked
at
it
all
the
supervisors
that
reviewed
the
case
looked
at
it.
We
just
don't
have
any
audio
or
video
for
this
case,
because
this
case
was
presented
to
us
almost
two
years
after
it
occurred.
M
P
P
P
The
supervisors
decide
if
there
was
a
rule
violation
and
if
there
isn't
there's
no
discipline,
they're
exonerated
or
it's
unfounded,
and
it
does
go
to
citizen
police
review
commission
which
it
did,
and
they
did
provide
a
report
for
this
case,
so
they
they
reviewed
it
and
again
when
they
review
it,
they
get
the
whole
packet.
They
get
our
whole
investigation.
They
get
all
our
memos
upgraded,
it's
redacted,
but
they
get
everything
that
any
supervisor
gets
to
review
the
case,
and
that
was
explained
to
the
complainants
at
length.
A
P
C
A
Okay,
well
she's
made
the
effort
to
be
here.
If
there
is
a
video,
if
you
would
be
willing-
and
I'm
sorry-
I
I
forgot
your
name
if
you
would
be
willing
to
share
it
so
that
we
can
support
you
more
lisa
sergeant.
D
A
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
and
table
this
one
so
that
you
can
make
a
decision
if
you're
going
to
share
your
video
with
us
or
not.
If
not,
then
I
will
move
forward
with
placing
it
on
file.
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
other
discussion
from
the
community
about
the
rest
of
the.
A
E
Okay,
so
just
okay,
let
me
reiterate:
get
back
with
one
of
the
members
with
one
of
the
committee
members
or
contact
the
sergeant
that
I'm
that
I
was
handling
the
investigations
that
were
what
you
said.
E
A
We
had
a
motion
and
a
second
there's,
no
further
discussion
and
that
passes
was
there
any
new
business
before
we
adjourn.
M
I
would
just
like
to
ask-
and
I
think
you
answered
most
of
them
chief,
but
if
you
can
and
I'm
happy
to
send
it
to
you,
cnp,
send
us
a
list
of
questions
if
we
can
just
if
I
can
send
that
to
you,
we
can
you
know
you
can
address
them
at
another
time.
That
would
be
great.