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A
Okay,
good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
Human
Services
Committee,
it's
Wednesday
September
4th.
It
is
6:00
p.m.
and
we
have
a
full
agenda.
We
do
have
a
quorum.
The
first
item
is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
of
June
3rd
approval.
Second,
all
the
favor
aye
any
opposed
okeydoke.
Then
we're
going
to
move
to
a
citizen
comment.
A
B
Good
evening
with
respect
to
agenda
item,
H,
h1
proposed
ordinance
79
on
19
I've,
previously
voiced
concerns
and
I'm
doing
so
again.
Fortunately,
there's
still
a
chance
for
this
ordinance
to
be
fixed
before
an
ultimate
vote
before
the
City
Council
and
I
urge
you
to
ensure
that
the
final
work
product
is
something
defensible
and
that
satisfies
the
intended
legislative
purpose
left
alone.
I
worry
that
the
social,
political
and
financial
repercussions
may
be
costly
for
the
community
for
the
years
to
come.
When
CPAC
was
first
formed
several
years
ago.
B
It
was
an
important
step
in
cementing
the
progressive
values
of
this
community,
in
which
citizens
have
a
voice
where
transparency
and
public
accountability
are
deemed
central
to
a
fair
and
democratic
society.
Most
communities
don't
have
a
citizens
board
tasked
with
reviewing
citizen
complaints,
alleging
misconduct
against
the
police
and
Evanston
should
be
proud
to
have
one.
There
have
been
both
praises
and
criticisms
of
CPAC,
and
maybe
even
some
critical
missteps
along
the
way,
but
at
no
time
has
a
community
ever
stopped.
B
Supporting
the
notion
that,
when
acting
in
their
public
capacity,
alleged
misconduct
of
police
officers
towards
members
of
the
community
is
a
matter
of
public
concern,
are
there
opportunities
for
improvement
absolutely,
but
we
shouldn't
lose
sight
of
the
purpose
behind
the
value,
purpose
and
value
behind
such
a
committee.
This
is
a
Citizens
Committee,
and
these
are
matters
of
public
concern
that
warrant
open
and
free
dialogue
and
thought
processes
and
open
access
to
the
essential
records
we're
supported
by
state
law.
We
must
welcome
and
accept
that
members
are
going
to
disagree
and
may
be
uncomfortable
at
times.
B
These
are
serious
issues
and
healthy
debate
is
to
be
expected,
but
we
can't
have
an
ordinance
that
claims
to
be
in
the
interest
of
increasing
transparency
and
building
a
trusting
relationship
between
the
community
and
the
police,
but
is
drafted
in
such
a
way
to
shield
the
police
from
scrutiny
and
accountability.
While
controlling
the
speech
and
thoughts
of
the
members
who
volunteer
their
time,
this
defeats
the
entire
purpose.
It
takes
courage
to
file
a
complaint
against
the
police
and
it
can
be
a
thankless
task
to
review
the
investigation
of
those
complaints.
B
Current
and
future
members
are
not
and
will
not
be
anonymous
and
no
matter
what
members
conclude
on
any
given
matter,
one
side
will
be
upset,
even
though
there's
no
power
to
for
the
Commission
to
impose
discipline,
the
conclusions
may
upset
our
neighbors
or
may
upset
the
police.
In
addition
to
addressing
the
issues
of
how
records
are
treated
in
freedom
of
speech
concerns.
A
key
feature
of
any
complaint
process
is
the
inclusion
of
a
prohibition
against
retaliation,
and
that
should
also
be
incorporated
in
an
Tenny,
revised
version.
B
Citizens
who
make
the
faith,
complaints
and
the
members
who
serve
on
the
Commission
should
be
able
to
complain
and
serve
without
fear
of
retaliation
and
some
if
these
problems
are
left
unchanged.
This
will
be
a
backward
step
in
transparency
and
will
only
result
in
greater
distrust
and
tension
between
the
public
and
the
police.
We
should
have
nothing
to
hide
and
nothing
to
fear.
I
hope
that
for
the
ordinance,
our
further
revisions
to
the
ordinance
are
made
to
ensure
that
none
of
these
issues
are
compromised
anyway.
C
Good
evening,
I'm
karen
court,
I'm
a
former
member
of
the
citizen,
a
committee
that
assessed
the
citizen
complaint
process
and
I
agree
with
everything
that
miss
biller
has
put
forward
and
and
grateful
for
the
work
that
she
did
in
finding
the
case
law.
That's
appropriate
for
us
to
use
in
assessing
the
ordinance
that's
being
developed
here.
So
I
won't
say
anything
more
about
that
and
I'll
just
make
a
brief
comment.
We
respect
to
HH
3
in
preparation
for
reviewing
tonight's
complaints
that
are
being
looked
at
at
HH
3.
C
I
went
to
the
website
for
CPAC
to
look
at
past
minutes,
especially
of
those
things
which
have
happened
most
recently,
and
I
was
disappointed
to
see
that
there
are
no
agenda
and
there
are
no
minutes.
There
are
no
minutes
since
March
of
2018,
so
I,
don't
know
why
that
is.
It
is
in
violation
of
the
Open
Meetings,
Act
and
I
hope
that
that
will
be
remedied
in
time
for
the
next
HSC
meeting.
When
we'll
be
looking
at
other
complaints.
Thank.
D
A
E
Maggie
Smith
I
am
also
a
former
member
of
the
citizen
police
complaint
assessment
committee
and,
as
a
member
of
that
committee,
I
was
really
happy
to
see
that
this
ordinance
had
come
forward.
We
all
worked
too
long
and
hard
to
provide
our
recommendations
and
I
was
happy
to
see
that,
thanks
for
continuing
to
step
forward
until
I
ran
the
ordinance
and
then
I
was
previous
appointed.
E
My
concerns
are
really
the
same
as
the
confidentiality
concerns
addressed
by
miss
pillar,
so
I
thank
her
for
her
work
and
the
information
you
guys
have
gotten
from
her
as
I
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
why
this
ordinance
may
have
been
written.
The
way
it
was
the
main
thing
I
remember
is
the
meetings
that
we
as
a
committee
had
with
police
officers,
especially
the
members
of
the
FOP
and
I.
E
Remember
them
talking
about
their
fears
of
social
media
retaliation
when
complaints
were
made
public
and
they
talked
about
some
officer
in
another
town
whose
children
were
subject
to
a
lot
of
online
bullying
as
a
result
of
the
officer's
name
being
made
public
I'm
not
going
to
claim
those
concerns
are
invalid.
You
know
you
all,
as
members
of
the
council
know
far
better
than
I
do
about
the
environment
online
that
we
live
in
these
days
and
if
that's,
why
this
ordinance
was
written.
E
The
way
it
was
I
would
like
us
to
just
find
a
better
way
to
adjust
those
concerns.
Hey
we're
all
here
tonight
in
a
public
meeting,
in
spite
of
concerns
that
we
all
may
have
about.
What's
gonna
be
said
online
and
I.
Think
that
that's
because
you
know
transparency
is
important
and
we
know
that
good
governance
is
important
and
that
means
being
brave
and
so
I.
Imagine
there's
a
middle
ground
right.
There's
some
way
to
maybe
you
know
one
of
the
ideas
that
it's
possible
is
to
say.
D
F
F
Well,
I'm
not
used
to
lying
on
myself,
it's
not
necessary
and
especially
when
your
life
is
threatened.
At
any
rate,
the
investigating
detective
became
more
than
a
problem.
In
other
words,
she
says
mr.
Gibbs,
you
know
me:
we've
talked
a
lot
of
times
in
the
neighborhood
say:
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
put
a
face
to
the
name,
can't
put
a
face
to
the
name,
but
as
I
thought
about
it
over
and
over
months
afterwards
he's
right.
We
did
speak
for
about
two
years
or
so.
F
F
Amongst
other
things,
said:
I
know
you
don't
have
time
to
hear,
but
at
any
rate
I
felt
well.
Not
only
do
I
have
to
watch
out
for
this
person
that
threatens
to
kill
me,
but
I
need
to
watch
out
for
the
other
strean
police
department,
I,
guess
if
you
don't
bow
and
kiss
them
where
they
sit,
then
you
can
be
labeled
a
problem.
F
I
filed
a
formal
complaint,
it
was
investigated
internally
by
the
police
department.
I
did
get
a
letter
from
them,
maybe
a
month
or
more
ago,
and
it
said
mr.
Gibbs
every
complaint
that
you
have
lots
I'm
paraphrasing,
but
it
virtually
said
every
complaint,
you've
lost,
insists,
hasn't
been
substantiated.
F
F
I've
spoken
with
our
chief
cook
about
it
outdoors
idea.
If
I
recall
correctly,
he
may
have
been
the
one
that
gave
me
the
letter
in
our
meeting,
but
when
I
was
asked,
what
did
I
think
should
be
done
about
it?
I
said
you
should
fire
him
and
I
was
told.
I
was
being
unreasonable.
The
man
had
been
demoted
back
Longstreet
for
trove
from
the
investigative
detective
he's
been
put
on
a
very
hard
shift,
but
I
think
anyone
that
can
lie
and
falsify
information
on
a
police
to
report.
F
How
many
other
people
have
you
got
away
with
doing
it.
Any
man
that
can
put
information
on
there,
which
is
to
attack
the
person
who's
already
been
attacked,
seeking
assistance.
You
don't
need
to
work
for
the
police,
you
aren't
above
the
rim,
you
don't
keep
it
above
the
rim
and
whatever
your
personal
things
are
against
me.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Gibbs
is
there
anyone
else
who
wanted
to
speak
tonight
and
has
not
signed
up?
Ok,
then
we
move
ahead.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
car
policy
package
and
policy
engagement
strategy.
Do
should
we
deal
with
hh1
first
and
then
go
to
carp,
Oh?
Okay,
let's
let's
do
it.
Let's
do
that
so
H
h1
is
Ordinance.
17
I
know
nineteen
creating
title
to
chapter
15
of
the
oven
since
city
code
forming
a
citizen
police,
Review
Commission,
and
that
is
for
action.
Alderman
Fleming
did
you
want
to
should.
H
Actually
so
I,
so
you
just
move
approval.
Oops
I
move
I
move
approval,
so,
as
you
stated,
I
I
spoke
to
him.
Sorry
didn't
get
everybody
on
the
council
or
on
the
committee
tonight,
I
did
speak
to
assistant
city
manager,
Richardson
about
this,
so
I
I
have
some
concerns.
I
know
that
miss
peeler,
it's
an
email
out
to
everyone.
You
know
I
share
some
concerns.
H
H
Just
I
want
to
just
triple
check
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
this
in
accordance
with
all
you
know,
laws
I
think
pertain
particularly
things
that
were
just
not
discovered,
but
things
that
were
ruled
on
in
the
appellate
court,
after
laQuan
McDonald
in
terms
of
FOIA
and
and
officer
names
and
all
that
stuff,
because,
as
everyone
agrees,
this
is
very
important.
The
mayor
had
a
subcommittee
on
it.
They
made
some
recommendations
that
are
not
in
here
and
but
really
what
I
want
to
address
is
as
we
going
forward.
H
We
make
sure
that
this
is
as
transparent
as
possible
and
as
thorough
as
possible,
because
I
think
we
all
would
agree.
That
is
the
goal
and
we
don't
or
I,
don't
not
pretty
sure.
We
all
don't
want
to
do
something
and
then
come
back
later
and
figure
out.
You
know
we
didn't
take
our
time
and
make
sure
was
absolutely
correct,
so
things
that
I
pointed
out
to
miss
Richardson
and
and
Alex
and
the
legal
department.
H
Very
briefly,
on
a
conversation,
we're
making
sure
that
we
are
following-
and
you
probably
know
this
case
you
were
at
CPD,
but
making
sure
we
are
following
what
the
appellate
court
decided
on
transparency
regarding
officer
names
and
then
a
couple
more
things.
This
is
dealing
more
with
the
thoroughness
of
the
process
in
police
review.
I
I
would
like
them
to
have,
or
the
Kiska
new
committee
to
give
their
opinions
on
the
findings.
H
We
understand
they
are
not
of
personnel
board
and
they
would
not
recommend
you
know
termination
or
promotion,
that's
kind
of
things,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
if
we
have
this
board
put
together
for
this
process,
that
they
are
able
to
tell
us
their
opinion
on
not
only
the
thoroughness
of
the
investigation,
but
their
opinion
on
the
ruling.
I
mean
we.
We
do
have
the
capacity
to
do
some
of
that
up
here,
but
it
is
good
if
we
have
this
for
that.
H
They
are
as
thorough
as
possible
and
they
can
share
their
opinion
with
us
in
terms
of
what
they
find.
So
there
are
just
things
like
that
that
I
want
to
have
our
staff
kind
of
take
one
more
look
at
this
to
make
sure
it
is
absolutely
positively
correct
before
we
go
out
and
start
recruiting
people
and
then
have
this
board
to
start
operating
and
that's
very
important
light
that
they
are
operating.
H
So
that's
kind
of
the
gist
of
my
thoughts
and
actually
I
had
something
typed
up.
That
I
was
gonna,
give
to
you
guys,
but
I
lost
power
and
I
didn't
save
it.
So
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
type
it
up
again,
but
it
was
you
know
the
gist
of
that.
So
I
would
like
to
hold
this
I'm
fine,
not
holding
it
just
in
committee.
H
So
when
staff
has
finished
working
through
it,
they
did
come
back
to
the
full
council
so
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
a
whole
of
the
month
for
it
to
come
back
to
committee
in
October
and
then
you
know
get
put
on
the
councillor
tire.
So
I
don't
have
a
date
in
mind
because
I
don't
have
the
council
schedule
in
front
of
me,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
have
the
staff
work
on
I
didn't.
Have
it
come
back
to
Council
or
have
it
come
back
to
committee?
If
that's
what
the
committee
chooses.
A
I
Kimberly
Richardson,
deputy
city
manager,
so
yes,
almond
cleaning,
did
have
a
conversation
with
us
regarding
some
the
concerns
that
she
have
had
I
think
the
concerns
is
she
having
are
gonna,
be
resolving
a
two
days,
if
not
a
week
or
so,
and
some
of
the
issues
that
were
addressed
I
think
we're
addressing
the
updated
version
of
this
document
that
were
discussed
by
some
of
the
comments
made
earlier.
So
it
would
be
a
matter
of
us
just
reviewing
one
more
time,
but
for
that
I
think
you
can
do
it.
The
second
meeting
in
September
so.
A
I
My
only
question
is:
there
are
other
concerns
or
questions
that
were
of
interest
to
the
to
the
committee
that
we
should
be
me
aware
of,
like
I,
said
I
heard
from
alderman
Fleming.
If
there
was
anyone
else
that
had
some
concerns
that
we
have
not
yet
addressed
I
would,
you
know,
would
love
to
be
able
to
look
at
those
as
well.
If
we
don't
come
back
here
in
October,
because
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
those
concerns
are
also
addressed.
I
H
A
Yeah
no
I'm,
fine
d,
yeah,
okay,
well,
let's
yeah,
let's
City
put
a
committee
and
and
then
we
should
then
be
prepared
to
send
it
on
to
council
right
after
the
next
Human
Services
Committee,
which
would
be
the
first
council
meeting
in
October.
I
I
A
M
All
right
good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
Kumar
Jensen,
chief
sustainability
and
resilience
officer
for
the
city
of
Evanston
last
time
I
was
here
was
in
was
in
March
of
this
year
to
give
the
first
update
on
implementing
the
climate
action
and
resilience
plan.
I
promised
at
that
meeting
that
I
would
come
back
and
talk
more
specifically
about
the
year
4000
or
so
actual
individual
policies
like
ordinances
and
resolutions
that
were
recommended
in
the
plan,
and
what
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
do
as
a
community
in
terms
of
developing
those
policies.
M
So
again
just
a
little
bit
of
a
recap.
This
is
where
we
started.
It
came
in
March
to
talk
much
more
so
about
the
specific
administrative
action,
so
things
that
staff
can
be
doing
that.
Don't
necessarily
immediately
need
city,
council
approval
and
then
indicated
I
would
be
back
and
Here
I
am
in
September.
M
Lastly,
we
would
bring
back
that
first
round
of
policies,
so
ordinances
and
resolutions,
probably
in
the
beginning
of
2020,
wait
22,
late,
2019
and
so
just
a
few
quick.
Just
a
few
quick
updates
on
some
items
that
we
did
talk
about
in
March.
Just
wanted
to
note
that
we
did
receive
a
$250,000
grant
through
the
partners
for
places
funding
program
to
support,
affordable
housing
and
climate
resilience
and
energy
efficiency.
We
also
received
a
$10,000
grant
from
the
National
League
of
Cities
to
focus
on
really
engaging
and
helping
people
understand
an
meaningful
way.
M
What
is
in
Karpin,
what
some
of
the
climate
change
impacts
are
believe
that
to
be
very
important
in
a
planning
process?
I
meant
also
just
a
note.
We
mentioned
that
we're
gonna
launch
a
sustainable
business
recognition
program
that
was
launched
and
we
have
now
17
businesses
in
Evanston
that
have
received
recognition,
a
$250
incentive
and
are
taking
some
really
exciting
actions
to
to
help
us
meet
our
goals,
so
thinking
about
what's
actually
in
the
packet
and
so
there's
two
main
documents
in
there.
M
M
So
that
gives
us
a
pretty
long
period
of
time
to
look
at
this
and
that's
partially,
because
this
is
the
first
year
that
we
would
be
doing
it.
And
we
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
of
working
out
that
we're
gonna
have
to
do
in
terms
of
figuring
out
how
much
time
things
take,
and
then
packages,
two
and
three
and
I'll
talk
about
why
they're
together
would
be
much
shorter
and
part
of
the
reason.
Why
is
because
we
would
actually
start
working
on
some
of
those
policies
and
doing
some
of
that
research.
M
This
fall,
but
the
actual
sort
of
writing
of
the
ordinances
in
the
very
public
portion
of
that
would
not
necessarily
take
place
until
spring
of
2020.
So
this
is
the
way
that
we've
grouped
the
three
packages
again.
The
reasons
why
we
chose
waste
is
the
first
one
is
because
staff
in
particularly
the
environment
board
have
received
a
lot
of
comments
and
requests,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
programs
related
to
waste
and
waste
reduction
taking
place.
M
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
community
energy
and
a
lot
of
articulation
a
lot
of
works
already
been
done
in
some
cases.
We
now
just
need
a
broad
in
that
engagement
to
make
sure
people
understand
what's
being
talked
about,
and
then
second,
we
do
have
a
our
commercial,
solid
waste
franchise
contract
is
expiring
in
October
of
2020,
so
we,
the
staff,
will
be
releasing
an
RFP
for
that.
This
fall.
M
It's
a
very
good
time
to
be
talking
about
some
of
these
goals,
because
that
contract
will
likely
be
seven
years
or
so,
and
so
anything
any
goal
is
that
we
have
out
to
2025.
It's
gonna
be
really
important.
We're
working
on
this.
Now,
municipal
operations
are
a
couple
areas,
particularly
around
building
energy
efficiency,
electrification
of
the
fleet
and
things
like
LED
conversions
throughout
the
city
operations.
M
That
staff
could
use
some
additional
guidance
on
and
so
we'll
be
working
internally
to
work
on
some
some
resolutions,
based
on
some
of
the
best
practices
in
some
of
our
internal
analysis,
to
recommend
some
resolutions
that
will
provide
more
clarity
and
hopefully
long-term
guidance
as
to
how
the
city
is
a
is
an
entity
operates
in
line
with
some
of
the
carb
goals.
Then
the
last
one
is
buildings,
as
I've
I
believe
I've
mentioned
before.
M
80%
of
Evanston's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
come
from
buildings,
and
so,
if
we
are
going
to
meet
our
carbon
neutrality
goal
by
2050
or
meet
our
50%
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2025,
we
need
to
do
a
lot
on
existing
buildings,
and
so
we're
also
due
for
a
building
code
update
in
2021
and
so
we're
looking
at
studying
some
of
this
stuff
right
now
and
I've
applied
for
a
techno
tech.
Na'kal
assistance
grant
to
help
us
in
that
planning
work.
M
But
we
recognize
it's
a
long
process
and
we
want
to
get
started
as
soon
as
we
can.
So.
The
engagement
strategy
is
the
other
big
piece
of
this,
and
this
is
a
document
that
I've
been
working
on
since
I've
been
working
on
for
the
better
half
of
this
year,
and
we've
received
some
really
good
input
from
the
equity
and
empowerment
Commission,
the
environment
board
in
the
Utilities
Commission
in
particular.
The
idea
is
to
build
off
of
the
community
engagement
approach.
M
We
use
in
developing
the
carp
plan
where
I
and
members
of
carp
attended
over
25
events
and
facilitated
conversations
around
what
was
going
into
that
plan
and
and
how
it
be
structured.
And
so
we
want
to
build
off
of
that
process
and
hold
that
transparency
in
process
as
we're
working
on
specific
policies,
and
so
the
idea
here
is
that
we
break
it
into
three
phases
and
one
of
the
things
we
found
worked
very
well
in
the
carp,
implement
or
carpet
planning
process
was
engaging
people
educating
people.
M
At
the
same
time,
we
were
soliciting
input
from
them
and
so
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
share
complex
information
in
a
setting
and
in
a
way
that
is
conversational
but
also
requests
an
action
or
feedback
from
people
during
that
during
that
engagement,
opportunity
and
so
reflecting
back
was
also
requested
heavily
during
the
car
process.
That's
the
idea
that
we
once
we've
taken
in
this
information
and
staff
and
the
environment
board
in
particular.
M
We
will
then
digest
it
and
bring
that
back
and
say
well,
here's
what
we
think
we
heard
or
we
are
we
in
line
with
with
the
EM
from
you
know,
that
the
feedback
that
you
gave
us
prior
to
directing
staff
to
draft
actual
ordinances.
It
also
give
us
the
opportunity
to
look
at
what
other
communities
are
doing
and
see
how
that
we
relate
policy.
M
Here's
here's
the
timeline
that
we
have.
It's
shifted
a
little
bit,
but
the
idea
is
that
we
will
be
holding
these
workshops
in
starting
in
September.
We
already
have
about
five
of
them
scheduled
with
with
community
partners,
and
so
these
are
sort
of
co-created
events
to
help.
Both
people
understand
what
what's
going
on
related
to
waste
and
what
some
of
the
recommendations
are
in
our
within
the
plan,
but
also
to
start
to
understand
where
people
feel
they
are
sort
of
in
those
recommendations
then
really
August.
Through
October,
we
started
a
little
bit
in
August.
M
We
would
hold
these
events.
November
is
when
we
would
bring
that
feedback
staff
we'll
bring
that
feedback
from
those
workshops
to
the
environment
board.
The
equity
empowerment
Commission
has
asked
to
continue
to
continue
to
be
engaged,
so
we
bring
back
something
to
them,
and
then
staff
would
take
that
in
December.
It's
probably
not
an
ideal
time,
so
maybe
that'll
shift
a
little
bit,
but
what
bring
it
back
hopefully
before
the
end
of
the
year,
to
have
another
round
of
conversations.
M
So
here's
what
we
heard
is
this
aligning
well
with
what
what
you
told
us
and
then
in
January
actually
start
some
of
the
ordinance
and
policy
development
process.
So
the
way
that
we've
been
thinking
about
it,
particularly
as
it
relates
back
to
the
equity
and
empowerment
commissions,
engagement,
guidance
that
they
they
worked
on
earlier
this
year
and
the
guiding
principles
within
carp.
M
There
are
some
really
significant
benefits
from
laying
this
process
out
early
on,
since
the
since
carp
are
be,
the
the
policies
in
carp
have
already
been
sort
of
endorsed
in
their
sort
of
general
list.
Within
the
plan.
In
the
resolution
that
was
adopted,
we
want
to
hold
hold
ourselves
to
those
commitments
and
and
also
tell
people
how
we
plan
on
developing
these
ordinances
in
policies.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
from
community
members
and
a
lot
of
community
expertise
in
a
lot
of
these
areas,
and
so
part
of
it
is
also
responding
to
residents.
M
Saying
when
are
you
going
to
do
this?
How
is
it
going
to
be
done,
and
so
we
want
to
provide
as
much
structure
and
clarity
so
that
they
don't
feel
like
we're
either
ignoring
that
or
sort
of
saying
you
know,
having
just
pop
up
at
some
point
without
much
notice.
I
do
want
to
just
mention
that
and
we'll
get
to
some
of
these
examples.
A
second
but
I
do
want
to
just
mention
that
this
doesn't
mean
that
there
aren't
other
policies
that
are
in
carp
that
we
won't
address.
M
It
means
that
this
is
where
I'm
gonna
be
focusing
my
my
energy,
but
there
are
plenty
of
other
policies
that
are
already
underway
through
the
environment
board
and
through
the
equity
and
Power
Commission
that
are
very
relevant
and
supported
in
carp
and
so
I
did
want
to
give
a
few
actual
examples.
This
is
the
exact
language
that
was
used
in
carp
for
some
of
these.
So
if
we
look
at
policies
related
to
waste
and
waste
reduction
in
carp,
these
are
four
that
are
laid
out
there.
M
So
this
is
sort
of
a
recap,
but
just
thinking
about
the
next
steps
so
this
evening,
hopefully
well
we're
recommending
that
you
all
refer
the
items
in
the
packet
to
the
SI
or
the
the
recommended
boards
communities
and
commissions.
We
will
actually
begin
some
of
the
engagement
strategy
that
streets
alive.
If
this
committee
does
not
want
to
recommend
the
specific
process
was
still
going
to
help,
people
understand
some
of
the
challenges
and
some
of
the
actions
in
carp.
M
M
We've
done
had
a
lot
of
conversations
already
with
some
of
our
existing
partners
to
secure
spaces,
to
be
able
to
co-host
some
of
these
conversations,
whether
it's
in
the
schools
or
at
some
of
our
nonprofits
and
some
of
our
businesses,
and
then
I
would
like
to
come
back
in
December
January
to
report
back
I.
Don't
think
we'll
have
policies
exactly
ready
by
then,
but
to
least
say
hey
here
is
where
we
are.
M
H
A
H
Thank
you
for
being
very
thorough
thing.
It's
good
to
see
that
you're
taking
so
much
time
to
make
sure
you
hear
from
people.
You
know
several
several
places,
I
have
a
question
that
you
can.
Maybe
you
can
address
now.
One
is
a
referral,
I
guess
maybe
for
the
environment
board,
but
something
that
came
up
so
Alderman
fist
get
talked
before
when
we
passed
some
of
you
asking
about
the
cost,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things
and
so
my
question
I
guess,
is
as
they're.
H
My
just
referral
as
I'm
talking
to
you
and
thinking
about
your
community
engagement
I,
know,
we've
already
passed
the
benchmarking
ordinance
before
I
was
here,
but
you
know,
I
tried
to
explain
it
to
someone
and
I
realize
I
didn't
quite
understand
all
of
it
and
he
didn't
really
know
what
his
requirements
were.
So
maybe
I
streets
alive
or
someplace
or
another.
L
You
thank
you
tomorrow
for
your
work
on
this
and
thanks
to
the
committee
in
your
engagement
plan.
Can
you
certainly
include
our
everyone's
Ward
meetings?
We
have
a
more
engaged
in
captive
audience
there
than
someplace
a
little
more
festive
like
the
events
in
town
and
then.
Secondly,
we've
talked
about
balloon
releases.
So
if
you
could
have
this
as
a
policy
is
being
formed
so
that
I
don't
have
to
work
on
one
specific
policy,
can
you
have
that
specific
language?
L
M
L
M
L
M
And
and
I
in
the
memo,
I
referred
to
the
analysis
I
referred
to
earlier
of
the
the
existing
plastic
bag
ban,
we'll
be
sharing
that
later
this
week
and
I
can
share
that
with
everyone
on
on
the
committee,
but
it
does
a
pretty
good
job
of
laying
out
sort
of
where
some
of
the
holes
are
and
and
in
reference
to
carp
there
are
there
already
are
our
guidelines
and
recommendations
in
there
to
update
and
evaluate
the
ban.
It
doesn't
get
into
specifics,
but
does
call
it
out
as
being
somewhat
ineffective
in
its
current
structure.
L
M
Have
not
been
discussed
in
any
formal
sense,
but
they
are
also
included
in
carp
in
talking
about
eliminating
single-use
plastics
and
thinking
about,
obviously,
some
of
the
complications
of
just
wholesale,
eliminating
something,
and
so
that's
I-
think,
one
of
the
reasons
why
doing
a
sort
of
longer
engagement
process
around
this
you
can.
You
know
the
time
to
get
out
some
of
these
ideas,
help
people
understand
them
and
also
understand
the
nuance
and
implementation.
We've
certainly
heard
from
our
peers
around
the
community
that
straw
bands
can
be
very
effective,
but
they
they
come.
L
So
on
the
straw
piece
on
to
ban
the
traditional
straws
and
replace
it
with
the
paper
straws
still
single,
you
still
still
not
that
much
of
progress,
but
if
we
could,
while
we're
working
with
our
businesses
and
getting
them
certified,
even
recommend
some
of
them
retail
still
in
glass,
reusable
straws
just
so
that
the
community
has
an
alternative.
If
a
straw
is
something
that's
necessary
for
them
to
enjoy
the
beverage
famous.
J
J
G
K
Prevail
to
address
Alderman,
Fleming's
question
about
the
leaf
blowers.
I
I
did
make
a
reference
to
the
environment
board
to
look
at
not
only
enforcing
our
current
leaf
blower
ban,
but
also
just
banning
fossil
fuel
powered
lawn
equipment
in
general,
so
the
environment
board
is
looking
at
it
very
carefully
and
the
enforcement
piece
is
is
a
really
complicated
part
of
it.
So
they
it's
it's
gonna
take
a
while
before
they
are
back
to
us
with
some
kind
of
recommendations
but
they're
if
they
are
definitely
working
on
it.
K
At
the
same
time,
I've
been
going
to
a
couple
of
meetings
of
people
from
some
of
our
nearby
communities
and
there's
a
proposal
for
a
workshop
that
would
be
aimed
at
municipal
municipalities
and
maybe
large
landscaping
companies
to
come
and
see
electric
lawn
equipment.
So
it's
it's
not
because
we
not
only
need
to
say
you
know,
don't
use
these,
but
we
want
to
say-
and
here
are
some
options
that
you
could
use
instead,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able.
This
is
a
workshop.
K
That's
planned
for
November
and
I'm
hopeful
that
the
city
of
Evanston
will
be
a
co-sponsor
of
that
as
well
and
then
just
follow
up
with
Kumar.
On
his
presentation,
lights
I
mean
it's
very
thorough,
very
thoughtful.
The
I'm
delighted
to
see
that
we
have
this
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
for
community
engagement.
K
Community
engagement
is
going
to
be
really
important
as
so
much
of
what
we
need
to
do
to
achieve
our
really
ambitious
carp
goals
involves
behavior
change
and
so
the
more
we
can
involve
the
community
and
talking
about
policy
and
ordinances,
but
also
just
what
they
can
do
privately
I.
Think
that's
gonna
be
really
really
helpful.
K
L
Thank
you
about
the
NLC
grant,
so
fantastic
job
on
getting
that
in
and
us
getting
the
award.
But
my
recommendation
and
us
applying
for
that
had
a
specific
request
that
we
pay
close
attention
to
environmental
and
justices,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
we
will
use
it
for
outreach
in
general.
But
I
do
not
want
to
get
too
far
away
from
intentional
focus
on
neighborhoods
that
have
environmental
and
justices
that
we've
been
dealing
with.
L
We
also
were
made
aware
by
director
stone
back
I
believe
that
our
community
has
some
room
for
improvement
in
compliance
with
our
recycling
and
if
we
could
be
sure
that
we
are
educating
the
targeted
neighborhoods
that
are
struggling
with
education
and
information
and
understanding,
why
it's
a
priority
that
we
protect
our
environment.
If
we
could
just
make
sure
that
we
use
some
of
those
funds
for
specific
targeted
engagement
and
the
areas
that
need
it
most.
Absolutely.
M
Yep,
and
so
I
will
just
mention
that
the
the
funds
at
the
moment
are
being
spent
on
helping
develop
content,
specifically
that
we
want
to
have
be
designed
to
be
very
sort
of
a
low
barrier
to
entry
in
terms
of
explaining
some
of
these
systems,
and
so
we're
specifically
looking
at
the
client
climate
hazards
in
heaven-sent
right.
So
we're
looking
at
things
that
are
gonna
happen
to
the
lake
and
in
water,
so
flooding
related
issues,
waste
related
issues,
air
quality
in
particular
heat.
M
And
so
the
idea
is
that
we're
using
these
funds
to
create
a
suite
of
material
and
engagement
activities
that
we
will
then
be
able
to
deploy.
And
so
the
idea
is
to
not
only
help
people
understand
sort
of
what
can
and
cannot
be
recycled,
but
also
what
some
of
the
proactive
things
are,
that
they
can
do
or
that
the
city
can
do
so
that
they
better
understand
the
system.
M
But
we
found
that
in
these
conversations
we're
able
to
tell
people
about
what's
happening,
sort
of
also
outside
of
Evanson
and
how
that
complicates
what
we're
doing
here,
that
we
seem
to
get
a
lot
better
feedback
and
questions
in
comprehension
in
those
activities
and
so
but
I
appreciate
that
recommendation.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
comments
on
the
stakeholder
list,
I'm,
assuming
that
we
can
add
to
the
stakeholder
list
of
groups.
I
do
think
that
alderman
or
Simmons
makes
a
makes
a
real
good
point
about
reaching
reaching
people
in
the
community.
That
may
not
be
part
of
these
groups
through
Ward
meetings,
I
had
a
Ward
meeting
last
night
and
unfortunately
had
to
get
announcement
for
the
meeting
out
three
weeks
earlier.
A
So
this
wasn't,
this
wasn't
part
of
it
and
my
next
board
meeting
is
in
December,
so
that
may
a
little
tough
I
I
really
do
think
that
this
is.
This
is
something
that
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
are
going
to
be
interested
in
participating
in
and
they
may
not
be
parts
of
these
groups
and
I
don't
want
to
surprise
them
or
I
don't
want
to
make
it
appear
that
they
could
have
participated.
They
just
didn't
know
about
it,
so
it's
I
think
getting
the
getting.
A
The
word
out
is
an
important
part
of
the
educational
process
and
and
the
investment
process
in
you
know
getting
people
to
really.
You
know
not
only
understand
the
importance
of
it
but
being
engaged
in
it.
I'm
really
concerned
about
about
businesses,
both
small
and
large
businesses.
We
need
to
have
them
I'm
totally.
A
Does
the
increase
in
sales
tax
compared
with
the
increased
cost
to
them
of,
let's
say
eliminating
plastic
bags
for
smaller
businesses?
All
of
these
things
are
inform
us
and
help
us
make
make
better
decisions.
There
is
a
huge
population
of
seniors
who
are
really
looking
for
a
way
to
be
involved
and,
and
in
my
ward,
I
know
that
they're
there
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
want
to
suggest
some
names
for
the
stakeholder
list
and
Northwestern
University
generally.
A
You've
got
northwestern
students
on
here,
but
the
university
administration
I
think
has
made
a
commitment
to
sustainability
and
I
would
like
to
have
them.
The
university
administration
present
in
these
conversations
as
well
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
they're
doing
that
we
don't
know
about,
and
I
would
like
to.
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
that.
A
The
other
thing
that
I
will
say
too
is
that
and
I've
not
got
this
fully
formed
in
my
mind
yet,
but
in
our
zoning
ordinance
when
we
allow
structures
to
be
built
and
suddenly
eliminate
a
lot
of
green
space.
What's
the
effect
on
our
community
and
maybe
that's
something
you
and
I
can
talk
about,
but
I
think
that's
again
as
we're
looking
at
these
issues,
you
know
decades
down
the
road.
A
M
A
J
A
A
But
my
point
is:
is
that
that
takes
a
while
for
that
to
make
its
way
down
the
line
into
the
individual,
homeowner
and
I
know
that
there
are
people
I
can
tell
by
the
people
who
recycle
in
my
neighborhood
that
are
really
really
invested
in
this
and
who
might
want
to
participate
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
they
find
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
I'm
so
loved.
So
that's
my
reason
for
expanding
the
stakeholder
list.
So
anybody
else,
okay,
so
Kumar
we
need
to
accept
and
refer
to
boards
and
commissions,
then
is.
D
A
You
for
everything
that
you
do
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Move
on
to
HH
3,
which
is
review
of
police
complaints
by
the
citizen
police
advisory
committee.
Three
complaints
were
reviewed,
there
are
10
positive
letters
and
the
comments
are
received.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
in
places
on
file.
L
A
A
H
N
H
So
I
guess
what
I
want
to
say
it's.
What
I've
said
before
is
I
appreciate
now
that
there
seems
to
be
I,
won't,
say
more
thoroughness,
but
more
attention
put
to
such
matters.
I
realized
that
there's
frustration
that
the
first
di
or
whatever
it
was,
was
not
satisfactory,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
you
all
went
back
and
there
was
a
different
binding
again
for
me.
That
means
that
you
know
as
hard
as
you
work.
We
still
have
some
work
to
do.
People
do
make
mistakes.
H
Oh
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
this.
This
new
procedure
correctly.
So
I,
don't
really
have
a
question
about
it.
Just
the
statement
that
I'm
thanking
you
for
going
back.
There
was
a
different
finding
and
I
continue
to
be.
You
know
where
no
one's
perfect,
but
I
can
think
you
to
be
pleased
to
see
the
change
in
these
procedures.
A
G
A
O
J
You
very
much
if
so,
I
actually
asked
to
have
this
brought
back
to
Human
Services
right
before
the
break.
I
met
with
a
family
here
in
the
automatic
library,
with
the
Chief
of
Police,
and
also
our
city
manager
and
I.
Think
it's
important
is
to
say
that
was
I
feel
like
it
was
an
officer
air
and
not
an
air
of
the
Evanston
Police
Department,
and
so
the
individual
was
found
dead
in
his
apartment.
J
There
was
a
significant
amount
of
time
that
passed
before
the
family
was
notified
and
it
was
a
situation
where
and
I
won't
go
into
all
the
details,
but
had
we,
the
family
not
found
out
within
a
period
of
days
like
the
whole
individuals
estate,
that
said
or
would
have
gone
into
two
state
probate,
and
so
in
meeting
with
a
family
and
just
going
through
the
details
and
the
chief
was
very
helpful
throughout
the
conversation
it
was
just.
You
know
brought
to
my
attention.
I
wanted
to
share
with
members
of
council.
J
J
You
know
period,
I,
I,
don't
know
how
often
it
happens.
I
did
ask
that
question
as
part
of
the
support
I
is
you
know
last
I
think.
Last
month
we
had
an
individual
who
was
run
over
by
a
train
and
these
things
pop
up.
I
just
don't
know
what
the
frequency
is,
but
I
do
think
it's
very
important
that
again,
whenever
there
is
a
police
investigated
death,
it's
not
natural
causes
in
a
hospital
that
we
are
notified
and
that's
the
policy
that
I'm
looking
to
get
implemented.
O
O
I'm
in
a
process
of
reviewing
our
policies
when
victims
advocates
transition
to
to
the
health
apartment,
those
policies
have
not
been
updated
or
revised
so
I'm
in
a
process
of
working
on
that
to
tailor
it
to
how
we
will
be
responding
going
forward.
They're
number
of
policies
that
need
to
be
revised
that
have
not
been
in
like
I
stated
is
something
that
I'm
currently
working
on
and
that
should
be
included
in
our
policy
to
notify
the
or
then
when
a
death
is,
of
course,
especially
if
it
will
cause
in
your
words.
J
Will
that
also
include
when
there's
I
don't
want
to
go
into
details,
but
there's
a
case
currently
right
now
and
there's
just
a
number
of
questions
that
have
become
public
to
a
number
of
all
them
in
regarding
how
families
are
notified
as
well
when,
when
there's
an
actual
shooting,
so
I
hope
that,
when
you're,
looking
at
that
policy
that
there's
a
clear
direction
to
staff,
whether
it's
a
police
officer
or
our
victim
advocates
how
families
are
notified.
Also
yeah.
O
O
Well,
when
it
comes
to
death
notifications,
we
are
supposed
to
respond,
irrespective
of
what
caused
the
death.
It
is
our
responsibility.
It's
the
responsibility
of
the
Advocate
to
do
those
death
notifications
and,
like
I
stated,
it
is
something
that
we
are
currently
working
on.
I
will
work
with
the
police
to
iron
this
all
out,
so
that
we
are
responding
swiftly
when
it
comes
to
to
these
cases.
J
L
D
O
O
We
receive
a
phone
call
from
the
police
whenever
there
needs
to
be
a
death
notification,
then
we
respond
in
person.
If
the
person
I,
don't
accept,
can
lives
in
Evanston
or
they're,
not
sure
area,
and
we
deliver
that
death
notification
to
the
next
next
of
kin.
I
believe
that
there
are
some
processes
that
has
to
be
rectified
in
this
regard
and
I'm
committed
to
figuring
out
what
these
issues
are
and
that's
why
we
have
to
implement
policies
on
how
to
move
forward.
O
A
P
Want
to
address
the
process
for
the
police
department
sure
whenever
we
have
a
death
in
this
town,
where
it's
a
police
investigation,
everybody
gets
notified.
The
gray
area
is
when
we
have
a
natural
death
as
a
case
right
that
we
speaking
up
about
here
and
then
you're
right.
They
could
have
done
a
bit
job
with
trying
we're
just.
P
D
J
What
and
so
that's
so
that's
that
that's
what
I
wanted
to
make
a
clear
distinction.
So
what
I
would
call
a
natural
death
is
someone
who
dies
in
the
hospital
because
it's
documented
they
before
the
person
comes
in
the
person
is
admitted
I
think
any
time
the
police
are
called
into
a
situation
where
there's
then
maybe
criminal
I
would
say
criminal
deaths
we
always
find
about
whatever
they're
shooting.
In
this
particular
situation.
There
was
no
one
there,
so
I
would
call
it
an
investigation.
P
P
P
What
would
lead
us
to
determine
if
it
was
the
natural
causes
is
when
we
call
the
doctor
of
the
deceased
person
and
the
doctor
agrees
to
sign
the
death
certificate.
He
may
say
something
to
the
effect
yeah.
So
my
client
a
couple
of
days
ago,
and
he
had
so
many
ailments
and
it's
a
natural
dinner-
it's
not
gonna,
be
a
Emmys
case
creates
some
confidentiality,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
P
J
P
Sometime,
you
know
it
could
be
some
times
where
they'll
go
into
a
scene
and
don't
find
a
next
Akins
number
or
something
like
that.
So
then
they
will
go
down
to
the
medical
examiner's
office
in
a
case
will
get
get
assigned
to
a
Emmie
investigator
and
they
do
basically
the
same
process
that
we
do.
They
try
to
find.
P
Next,
you
can,
but
certainly
you
know,
we
should
be
making
every
effort
and
maybe
even
beyond
you
know,
when
we
have
a
resident
in
our
town,
they're
passed
away.
I
think
we
should
be
stretching
it
to
do
a
little
bit
more
to
try
to
find
out
who
the
next
of
kin
yeah,
such
as
canvassing
the
neighborhood.
You
know
simple
things
like
that.
J
So
again
the
reason
for
bringing
it
up
in
chief.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
explanation.
He
did
a
great
job
at
the
meeting
is,
if,
if
it
was
to
happen
to
someone
you
or
that
someone
passes,
I
I
made
it
a
point
in
a
commitment
to
the
family
that
this
will
never
happen
again
in
our
town.
That
I
mean
that's
my
mind.
I
want
to
sit
and
I
want
to
hold.
J
My
I
want
to
make
good
on
my
word
that
this
will
never
happen,
and
that
was
the
whole
reason
that
they
were
about
10
family
members,
probably
a
week
after
the
funeral
very
composed
making
the
strong
point
that
they
never
want
to
see.
This
happen
to
any
individual
again
in
town.
So
that's
the
reason
for
my
request.
Ike
you've
identified
the
inconsistencies
with
the
notification.
J
I,
god
bless
see
if
you
can
fix
that,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
that,
unfortunately,
we
get
to
hear
the
inconsistencies
in
the
most
extreme
circumstances,
so
anything
that
you
can
do
to
prioritize
this
issue
with
the
chief
and
make
something
good
come
out
of
it,
so
that
we
can
keep
our
word
to
this
family
I.
Think
that
that's
important
okay.
H
Think
this
is
what
you're
Sam,
but
just
so
I'm
clear.
So
the
notification
would
come
from
the
police
I'm
assuming
right
because
they're
the
ones
on
the
scene,
so
they
would
notify
us
in
terms
of
the
alderman
I,
know,
there's
a
different
process
for
notifying
the
family
and
kin.
Are
we
you
requesting
that
notification
for
everyone?
So
even
if
there's
no
next
again,
we
should
know
because
this
is
a
small
town.
We
might
even
know
well.
J
H
H
D
H
Then
I
know
innocent
may
be
a
different
conversation,
but
I
know
I've
had
a
couple
people
attempt
to
take
their
own
life,
which
is
a
total
different
kind
of
privacy
matter.
But
one
came
to
my
attention
because
someone
else
in
the
neighborhood
knew
and
called
me
and
really
was
calling
to
see
if
we
had
any
services
that
we
can
offer
this
person,
you
know
they
were
concerned
about
them
and
and
again
I.
Don't
have
the
capacity
to
offer
that
service,
but
I
don't
know.
If
that's
something
that
we
want
to
kind
of
think
about.
H
Just
you
know
just
so
it's
on
our
radar
right.
It's
because
we
all
know
our
Ward's.
You
know
pretty
well
in
the
people
and
you
know
just
thankfully,
this
person
lives
on
the
block
that
people
are
very
concerned
and
checking
in,
and
you
know
the
issue
has
been
long
resolved,
but
it
was
something
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
and
just
for
me
personally
and
I
know,
this
is
never
the
staffs
intention,
I,
just
don't
like
being
caught
off
guard
with
things.
So
when,
when
a
citizen
calls
me
I,
don't
like
me
like
what.
H
Had
that
last
week,
with
the
gas
main
like
what
gas
leak
I
had
to
see
it
on
TV,
that's
not
a
good
feeling,
because
then
people
they
that
I'm
neglectful
but
I'm,
just
not
everywhere,
to
know
everything.
So
thank
you
for
taking
care
of
this.
If,
if
there's
some
way,
we
can
expedite
it,
I
think
that
would
be
great.
Hopefully
we
don't
have
many
deaths
yeah,
so.
O
H
And
I
don't
know,
I
know
that
the
very
confidential
think
this
one
was,
you
know,
probably
had
some:
it
involved
a
weapon
and
you
know
there
was
some
police
activity
and
the
police
did
a
great
job.
But
you
know
some
residents
were
concerned
just
with
the
weapon
and
all
that,
so
you
know
I
I.
Don't
necessarily
need
to
be
that's
very
private
matter,
but
if
there's
something
that
we
write,
this
one
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
the
citizen
and
then
I
inquired.
H
P
A
police
response
and
it's
an
investigation,
it's
a
medical
examiner's
case,
so
we
treat
it
as
such.
We
it's
a
sensitive
nature
for
family
members.
It
could
be
some
perceived
humiliation
and
with
the
family
with
that,
so
we
don't
publicize
that
whatsoever.
No,
we
we
do
try
to
provide
the
family
with
all
of
the
resources
clergy
support
victim
advocates
and
so
forth,
but
we
we
try
to
you
know,
keep
it
confidential
for
the
family
members.
A
But
the
police
have
done
an
extraordinarily
good
job
with
jumpers
at
the
parking
garage,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
that
not
only
that
training,
but
also
the
response
and
the
outreach
to
family
members
who
might
be
able
to
come
in
and
help
with
the
conversation
and
but
I've
never
been,
you
know
really
quite
sure
of
what
the
what
the
process
is.
So
that's
our
standard
process
is
that
that
is
a
police.
The
police
take
first
position
on
that.
Whether.
P
It's
a
homicide
or
a
suicide
or
natural
call.
The
death
I'm
thoroughly
committed
to
providing
the
family
members
of
the
decedent
with
the
best
possible
care
we
can
in
partnering,
and
we've
done
a
great
job
and
healthy
human
services
has
always
this
isn't
that
new
they've
always
supported
us
with
the
resources
we
need.
You
know
when
we
make
a
mistake.
P
A
Are
we
voting
on
this?
Okay?
What
so
we're
voting
on
accepting
in
placing
on
file
all
those
in
favor
aye?
Anyone
opposed
okay,
so
we're
going
down
to
age.
Five,
the
healthy
work
environment,
complaint
lot
of
staff
recommends
that
the
committee
accept
in
place
on
file
the
complaint
process
report.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
in
place
and
file?
L
H
I
requested
this
one
for
clarity.
As
we
know,
we've
you
know
had
an
increase
in
a
healthy
workplace
process.
I've
had
a
couple
conversations
with
staff
and
it's
been.
It's
been
not
very
clear,
always
to
me
how
the
process
works,
and
you
know
that
kind
of
thing.
Given
the
amount
of
money
we
have
spent,
having
legal
outside
legal
counsel
investigate
several
of
these,
and
just
you
know
some
confidentiality
issues,
I
would
like
to
have
stuff.
H
I
mean
I,
appreciate
the
memo
here,
but
I
would
like
to
propose
to
have
HR
staff
come
back
to
us
next
month
with
information
on
outsourcing
healthy
workplace
claims
or
investigations,
whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
So
just
in
my
own
primary
research,
I
realized.
You
know
we
provide
a
lot
of
employee
assistance
program,
so
you
know
we're
there.
There
were
these
companies
that
run
call
center,
so
to
speak,
to
take
different
kind
of
you
know:
whistleblower,
complaints
and
whatever
there
are
also
some
that
do
workplace
investigations.
H
That's
very
costly
and
then
also
to
give
people
to
do
all
we
can
to
make
sure
I
stop
feels
like
their
complaint
is
really
being
heard
and
investigated
in
a
non-biased
way.
I
think
that
there
are
probably
some
concerns
in
the
building
that
people
don't
always
know.
If
that's
happening
and
there's
I,
don't
see
another
way
to
make
sure
that
that
happens
is
that
where
everyone
calls
somewhere
outside
of
this
building
and
that
person
or
that
department,
excuse
me
that
company
takes
care
of
it
and
brings
the
report
back
to
us.
H
So
I
would
like
to
have
staff
come
back
to
us
with
some
options
and
some
pros
and
cons
some
cost
so
that
we
can
weigh
if
that's
the
direction
we
want
to
go.
If
we
want
to
keep
these
things
in-house.
Given
all
of
the
you
know,
tension
in
government
nowadays,
even
that
we
see
here
at
they've,
got
the
diets
and
the
lack
of
trust,
and
you
know
and
things
that
can
escalate
out
of
control.
I
think
we
really
should
be
diligent
to
make
sure
we're
providing
our
staff
the
most
confidential
and
non
bias.
Options
available.
A
J
A
couple
things
that,
on
to
autumns
plumbing
I'm
gonna,
suggest
that
we
actually
reject
it
and
in
here
my
reasons
why
it
is
really
clear
what
happens
when
there's
a
police
complaint?
There's
a
process
we're
trying
to
find
maze
to
to
improve
on
that
process.
It's
clear
what
a
resident
has
to
do
whenever
whenever
they
have
a
bad
interaction
with
the
police,
I
think
in
this
situation,
when
it's
staff
on
staff
I,
here's
what's
missing
from
remember
like
everything's
antidotal,
there's
no
statistics
to
support
and
I'm.
H
J
Mean
that
is
just
false
and
and
I
and
I
would
have
been
alright.
If
I
didn't
read
that
last
statement,
that's
that's
a
lie.
There
have
been
just
in
my
time,
a
council,
a
very
clear
document.
It's
lack
of
support
and
trust
in
the
HR
in
general.
In
terms
of
dealing
with
these
employee
issues
and
if
I
think
we
were
to
look
at
the
last
situation
and
where
information
was
leaked
at
etc.
J
J
Think
of,
and
that's
why
I
want
statistics
like
I,
don't
know
any
complaint
against
a
staff
member
where
we
didn't
pay
outside
legal
and
so
we're
into
the
thousands
of
dollars
when
it
comes
to
these
and
there's
got
to
be
a
more
efficient,
trustworthy
entity
out
there
that
can
provide
some
type
of
mutual
assistance
with
assisting
our
staff
when
they
feel
like
they.
Don't
when
they're
having
another
issue
with
an
employee
and
eventually
through
our
Rules
Committee,
will
also
be
effectively
dealing
when
it's
against
an
elective
official.
So.
J
There's
some
work
that
needs
to
be
done
so
I'm
going
to
vote
no
in
terms
of
I.
Don't
want
us
to
accept
this
I
wants
to
have
to
come
back
with
more
information
following
up
with
all
of
them.
Simmons
recommendations
as
well
as
some
statistics
around
the
number
of
complaints
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
Okay,.
A
J
D
H
Say
so
we
didn't
you
know
this
was
from
last
month
and
we
poured
it
onto
committee,
which
is
fine
but
yeah.
You
know
I
just
say
that
I'm
a
little
frustrated
that
there's
no
work
of
HR
here
to
answer
to
some
of
these
questions.
So
that's
why
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
report
comes
back
with
the
staff
next
time,
not
just
a
report
that
we
are
to
decipher
ourselves.
That's
not
HR
professional.
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
we're
going
on
to
hh6
with
which
is
the
mental
health
board
proposed
2020
funding
priorities.
Staff
recommends
consideration
of
the
boards
for
post-2020
funding
priorities
and
it's
May
meeting
the
Mental
Health
Board
discussed
ways
to
better
align
their
priorities
with
city
council
goals
and
is
submitting
the
proposed
funding
priorities
to
us
for
review
and
acceptance.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
in
place
on
file
acceptance.
L
A
Okay,
hh7
is
diversity
and
inclusion.
Policy
for
boards
and
commissions
staff
is
seeking
direction
from
us
regarding
the
development
of
a
diversity,
inclusion
policy
for
City
boards
commissions
and
committees
and
I,
don't
they
would
they
just
want
direction
from
us?
Yessum,
Richardson,
perfect
timing,.
I
So
yeah
so
I
know
this
has
been
a
discussion.
That's
been
had
often
over
the
last
year
so
and
so,
as
we
are
beginning
to
revamp
our
abortion
agenda
applications
as
well
as
looking
at
how
we're
making
our
process
more
user-friendly,
it's
good
to
get
some
feedback
on
how
we
can
do
better
and
how
how
to
go
and
do
working
engagement,
I
think
is
gonna,
be
key
into
trying
to
identify
members
of
the
community
who
may
have
an
interest
but
may
not
know
how
I
do
understand
that.
I
Sometimes
it's
just
people
just
don't
know,
and
so
how
can
we
better
do
better?
How
can
we
create
a
policy?
Even
if
it's
not
a
policy?
That's
saying
we
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
numbers,
but
more
of
how
can
staff
do
a
better
job
of
engaging
the
community
in
an
effort
to
get
more
individuals
engaged
into
wanting
to
volunteer
their
time.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
putting
on
the
application
is
your
availability.
Are
you
able
able
to
come
to
meetings
in
the
a.m.
or
p.m.
things
of
that
nature?
I
I
L
That's
okay!
Thank
you,
so
I've
requested
it
over
the
last
two
years,
really
that
we
address
this
I
haven't
seen
enough
improvement
in
our
appointments
to
our
board
committees
and
commissions,
and
I
think
this
is
the
only
way
for
us
to
better
regulate
who
is
leading
and
having
the
discussions
that
are
later
being
recommended
to
council
for
for
a
vote.
L
So
I
would
like
to
see
a
couple
of
things,
one
that
each
Ward
be
considered
and
included
on
these
Commission's,
but
also
that
people
of
color
and
women
are
equally
included,
but
as
well
I've
noticed
that
there's
a
trend
of
the
same
profile,
academic
senior
level,
executives
at
seniors
or
retired
professionals,
and
many
times
they
are
weighing
in
on
matters
and
policies
that
they
don't
have
a
lived
experience
with.
So
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
more
to
appoint
community
members
that
have
a
lived
experience
with
the
area
that
they
are
leading
in.
H
Now
I
have
a
question
or
it's
we
only.
Obviously
we
get
what's
recommended
to
us
to
approve
or
not
approve
it's
there.
A
way
and
I
think
this.
We
got
a
report
at
one
point,
but
for
us
to
see
who,
from
our
ward,
is
maybe
in
the
pool
right.
So
if
I
can
see
that
you
know
no
one
from
the
Ninth
Ward
is
applied
this
year
to
be
on
the
Commission.
Obviously,
I
can't
expect
you
to
point
someone
who's,
not
there.
H
So
I
just
have
a
gauge
of
our
people,
even
applying
from
my
ward
or
even
if
you
just
you
know,
send
me
something
about
no
one's
applying.
The
other
thing
that
we
could
do
right
away
is
in
each
of
our
ward
newsletters
that
goes
out
there.
There
could
be
a
piece
in
there
that
says
these
boards
are
looking
for
people
please
apply,
I
mean
that
way.
It's
it's
constant,
monthly
or,
however
often
we
send
our
newsletters
that
people
are
seeing
that
there
are
openings.
H
H
If
the
mayor
is
willing
to
do
this,
I'd
love
to
have
a
little
more
information
about
what
he's
looking
for
so
part
of
that
lived,
experience,
I
think
is
really
important,
but
probably
you
know,
are
we
only
looking
forward
to
greet
people
and
we're
looking
for
whatever
we're
looking
for
right,
because
if
I
am
heavily
recruiting
people
which
I
have
done
and
they're
applying
and
they're
telling
me
month
after
month,
I
didn't
get
picked,
I
didn't
get
picked
and
then
I
see
here
because
we
get
the
referrals.
You
know
there
is
an
opening.
H
I
That's
exactly
right,
I
mean
because
right
now
we
are
getting.
We
have
30-plus
supports
and
commissions,
I
think
that
in
itself
is
a
challenge,
and
so
what
ends
up
happening
and
what
we
begin
to
have
begun
to
do
is
if
we
cannot
find
the
person
to
spit
a
position
that
they've
requested
we're
looking
at
them
from
other
positions
that
might
be
of
interest
in
reaching
out
to
them
to
say,
would
you
be
interested
in
this
Boren
Commission
because
of
the
fact
that
we
may
have
individuals
who
a
case
in
point
its
equity,
an
apartment?
I
Everyone
wants
to
contact
the
apartment,
but
we
only
have
one
position.
So
it
looks
you
look
at
the
composition
of
the
committee
and
what
you
are
trying
to
do
is
what
would
be
the
candidate
that
would
fit
the
composition.
It
is
diversity
if
it's
education,
if
it's
lived
experience
so,
but
then
you
have
all
these
other
applicants
who
apply,
and
so
what
do
we
do
those
individuals
who
will
apply
it
but
weren't
able
to
be
selected,
because
we
only
have
one
slot
open.
I
That
comes
up
a
lot
where
we
have
positions
currently
come
committees
that
we
can't
find
anyone
who
wants
the
beads
who
wants
to
serve
on
the
committee,
and
so
that's
when
you
start
seeing.
We
do
have
a
prohibition
that
you're
not
allowed
to
serve
consecutively
unless
one
is
on
a
task
force
or
a
short
term
committee
than
there
can
be
to
be
able
to
serve
within
that
12
month
period,
but
our
Prats
practices
and
continuing
practices.
I
If
you
have
served
on
a
commission
for
more
than
two
terms,
which
is
usually
the
maximum,
that's
the
average
matches
two
terms:
you're
not
allowed
to
serve
them
in
a
year
to
24
months
on
another
board
commission
at
sustaining
board
commission,
and
so
we
try
to
do
this.
But
the
problem
is
that
we
have
a
need
to
fill
seats
because
we
have
quorum
and
then
quorum
gets
impacted
because
we
can't
fill
the
the
appropriate
applicants
want
us
to
have
those
skills
and
abilities,
because
some
committees
do
require
some
skills
and
abilities.
I
That
may
require
some
technical
understanding
or
may
not,
depending
on
how
the
City
Council,
but
as
the
requirements
are
that
in
the
ordinance
and
that's
how
we
go
by
the
ordinance.
It's
those
who
comments
that
we're
looking
at
to
make
sure
they
fulfilled
now
as
to
Ward's
I
can
say
that
the
ward
that
has
the
least
amount
of
interest
is
the
first
ward,
unfortunately
they're
the
ones
that's
hardest
to
fill.
I.
Think
the
second,
the
eighth
and
the
seventh
and
sixth
wards
are
very
consistent
in
applying
the
fifth
Ward
as
well.
I
I
think
we
may
have
have
several
over
the
last
few
months
have
been
from
the
fifth
Ward
may
not
all
be
a
color,
but
they
are
in
that
war.
So
I
think
it's
been
a
more
concerned.
Effort
to
try
to
diversify
the
boards
and
Commission
is
just
how
do
we
engage
the
community
to
know
that
we
have
these
boards
and
commissions
available
and
we
don't
want
to
set
a
high
bar
to
where
people
don't
feel
that
they
can
access
can
apply
in
MPX.
I
Consider
I,
don't
think
the
mayor
is
just
looking
at
pedigree
of
education
from
what
I've
seen
so
far.
It
just
happens
to
be
those
individuals
are
applying
currently,
but
we
would
love
to
have
I
mean
I.
Think,
for
example,
the
Mental
Health
Board
you're
gonna,
see
that's
coming
up
for
the
meeting
on
the
9th
there's
I
mean
I.
Think
that
board
is
gonna,
have
some
really
great
individuals
coming
on
board,
who
have
lived
experience
and
have
professional
backgrounds
that
fit
that
board
as
well?
B
J
J
Our
city
staff
should
mirror
the
the
population
of
our
residents
right,
and
so,
if
we
use
that
as
a
very
simple
benchmarking
lookit
overall,
what
that
number
is-
and
we
just
pay
attention
to
it-
I
think
that's
what
I
would
recommend
if
you're
looking
for
direction.
I
recommend
that
as
a
direction
and
then
lastly,
I
would
want
to
look
at
some
of
the
Commission's
or
committees
where
it's
very
one-sided
I
mean
I.
J
Think
of
Zoning
preservation,
I,
don't
know
why
it
is,
but
from
my
limited
perspective,
when
I
go
to
those
meetings,
the
preservation,
Planning
Commission,
it
seems
like
we're
attracting
the
same
people
and
I.
Don't
have
a
real
good
understanding.
Why?
But
those
are
some
of
the
groups
that
I
would
want
to
take
a
look
at
and
if
that,
if
there's
anything
else
out
there,
that
I,
just
I'm
ignorant
to
I
think
that's
where
you
would
want
to
start
as
well.
From
my
perspective,.
D
I
J
It
starts
with
the
intention
right.
You
got
to
look
at
and
identify
it
first
and
change
the
policy
that'll
allow
for
you
to
be
intentional
about
who
you
get.
So.
If
you
got
a
bunch
of
all
black
males
on
a
committee,
then
you
try
to
mix
it
up
if
you
have
all
Asian
females
and
you
try
to
mix
it
up
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
if
we
don't
identify-
and
we
don't
know
it-
then
it's
difficult
to
fix
it.
From
my
perspective.
L
Thank
you
so
that
point.
The
way
that
you
get
the
engagement
is
we're
the
elected
body
like
we're
the
residents.
We
have
the
relationships
with
the
community,
so
if
there
is
a
shortage,
the
first
that
I'm
hearing
that
we
have
such
a
shortage
and
I
know
that
I
have
shared
in
newsletter
and
on
social
sites.
L
When
there
have
been
openings
into
the
cific
committees
that
were
really
important,
so
I'm,
suggesting
that
as
Audrey
Fleming
stated,
that
we
have
a
regular
announcement
of
what
openings
are
and
that
you
communicate
with
us
who
you
need
so
that
we
can
get
the
applications
and
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that
so
I
that
one
doesn't
seem
too
difficult
to
do.
Then.
I
L
What
that's
a
concern,
because
I've
asked
several
times
over
a
couple
years
that
we
do
more
in
this
area
and
if
they're
vacancies,
then
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
recommend
residents
who
are
inquiring
on
what
they
can
do
to
make
a
difference
in
community.
So
there
are
residents
that
want
to
serve
and
here's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
give
them
a
place
to
serve
understand.
I
I
We
have
over
a
hundred
and
sixty
people
who
are
serving
currently
on
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
it's
the
capacity
as
well
of
those
number
of
committees
that
we
have
some
time
as
a
struggle
to
fill,
because
people
want
to
be
able
to
feel
that
they're
contributing
and
if
they
go
to
committee
meetings
and
they
see
that
they're
not
really
doing
anything
or
they
feel
that
it's
not
something
that
they
want
to
invest
the
time
because
they
don't
see.
You
know
action
in
their
eyes.
I
It's
hard
to
get
people
to
want
to
commit
to
two
hours
in
the
evening
to
meetings.
So
it
goes
just
beyond
just
announcing
and
I
got
to
I
want
to
get
beyond
the
the
announcement
part
of
it
I
think
is
important.
Maybe
there's
community
groups
that
are
in
your
in
your
ward,
that
we
need
to
tap
into
that.
I
We
should
be
talking
to
directly
not
just
as
the
elected
official
but
as
staff,
so
that
if
they
know
individuals
who
might
be
of
interest
who
are
not
connected
to
the
individual
to
you
all,
then
you
know
they
can
share
that
information.
But
again
we
have
a
lot
of
boards
and
commissions
I
mean
probably
one
of
the
highest
in
the
state
when
it
comes
to
boards
and
commissions.
So
that's
a
struggle
just
to
try
to
fill
continue
to
feel
as
people
coming
off
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you.
O
I
A
My
answer
to
them
is
that,
if
that's
the
mayor's
role,
we
need
to
hear
from
him
about
how
many
people's
applications
are
sitting
in
the
desk.
I
I,
don't
know
whether
there's
a
time
frame
that,
if
they're
in
the
desk
for
more
than
six
months
and
the
desk
drawers
cleaned
out
or
how
long
they're
retained.
But
you
know
when
people
express
an
interest
in
serving
and
they
never
never
chosen.
A
You
know
that
word
gets
out
and
so
I
I
don't
know
it's
I
I
believe
Kimberly,
that
you
have
a
really
good
handle
on
understanding
what
the
problem
is
and
as
far
as
some
of
the
boards
and
commissions
like
zba
I
are
most
of
us.
Like
lay
us
on
to
some
of
the
committees.
I
know
I'm,
laying
on
to
plan
to.
I
A
And-
and
that
may
be,
that
may
be
helpful.
I
mean
I,
don't
go
to
every
single
committee
meeting,
but
if
I
don't
go,
I
watch
them
on
TV,
so
I'm
acutely
aware
of
what
they're
doing
and
how
often
they
do
not
have
a
quorum,
which
is
a
horrible
situation
for
people
who
have
you
know
to
appear
before
them
to
be
have
to
wait
another
usually
another
month
or
at
least
and
commission,
maybe
two
weeks.
So
that's
it's.
It's
a
bigger
problem.
A
But
then
we
hear
from
other
people
who
say
that's
not
a
time
when
it's
not
transparent,
because
it's
not
a
time
in
the
evening
when
everybody
can
come
so
there's
there's
lots
of
competing
interests
and
and
issues
that
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
as
well.
But
I'm
I
am
really
impressed
with
your
ability
to
I
mean
your
head
is
really
around
this
and
that's
I
think
very
helpful
to
us
and
we've
talked
before
about
I
mean:
do
we
reduce
the
number
of
boards
and
commissions
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
H
Can
I
get
one
more
suggestion,
so
I
would
love
to
see
the
boards
and
commissions
that
have
nine
more
people
to
have
someone
from
each
Ward
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
I
think
the
age
diversity
is
really
key.
I
had
to
kind
of
tussle
to
get
a
younger
gentleman
on
one
of
the
boards
and
I
know.
The
mayor
was
waiting
for
a
different
demographic,
but
he
fit
the
demographic
of
being
younger.
D
H
So
I
would
love
to
think
that
I
think
the
lived
experience
is
vital
even
on
boards
and
commissions
like
the
Planning
Commission,
where
we
want
people
with
plan
and
experience,
I
think
to
have
one
person
on
there
who
has
been
displaced
or
whatever
the
case
is
I,
think
they
bring
some
value
to
that
born
in
Commission
with
their
perspective,
so
I
I
think
that
that
is
super
important.
The
other
part
is
I.
H
You
know
we
have
like
the
rich
coming
up
streets
alive,
I,
don't
know
that
people
would
flock
to
it,
but
I
think
if
we
have
a
need,
why
we
have
all
these
City
events.
Maybe
we
have
a
table,
we
go
out
and
we
tell
people
what
the
board
the
Commission's
are
and
how
to
apply
and
all
those
kind
of
things
I
mean.
Even
if
we
got
a
couple
people
from
there
I
think
that
would
be
more
than
what
we're
doing
now,
which
is
essentially
it's
a
link
on
the
website.
H
If
you're
interested,
you
can
dig
around
and
apply
a
thing
just
like
the
current
plan,
we
have
to
go
out
of
the
building
and
think
about
where
to
speak.
To
people
I
mean
we
can
do
some
of
our
ward
meetings,
but
we
know
that
even
everyone
doesn't
come
to
the
ward
meeting,
so
you
know
we
can
do
easily.
It
avoids
a
commission.
Fair
I
mean
there's
there,
some
things
we
can
do
to
get
out
of
this
building
to
recruit
people
of
whatever
demographic
and,
as
Peter
said,
we
can
be
intentional.
H
If
we
know
a
we
need.
You
know
let
next
members
to
be
on
these
boards.
We
go
to
the
places
we
make
the
fliers
in
Spanish.
You
know,
there's
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
city.
That's
just
you
know
getting
passed.
You
know
whoever
it's
interested
is
going
to
take
the
time
to
find
the
Commission
read
all
the
requirements
fill
out
the
application
and
then
I
think
we've
done
a
better
job
of
engaging
people
after
they
apply
I.
H
Think
you've
done
a
better
job
with
this,
but
if
they
have
applied
and
aren't
chosen
that
there's
an
email
that
they
get.
This
is
thank
you
for
applying.
You
know
X
Y,
&
Z.
Would
you
consider
something
else
so
that
they
don't
think
it
went
into
the
abyss
and
then
they're
discouraged
from
ever
trying
again.
I
So
the
new
system
that
we
will
have
will
allow
for
us
to
be
able
to
better
track
the
length
of
time
a
application
has
been
in
place
and
in
fact
it
will
allow
for
us
to
put
in
progress
reviewed
rejected
so
that
we
know
the
status
because
right
now
we're
using
woohoo
form,
which
is
not
the
best
way
of
tracking.
And
so
what
we
have
done
is
we've
kept
applications
on
file
for
two
years.
I
We
do
that
and
that's
when
you
see
a
surge
of
applicants
and
then
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
low.
So
the
needs
of
recommendations
and
suggestions
that
you
are
provided
will
definitely
go
back
in
and
we're
gone
and
I
will
present.
Do
you
want
me
to
come
back
to
the
next
October
meeting?
To
kind
of
give
you
all
overview
upon.
J
J
Was
actually
gonna
make
a
suggestion
whose
idea
was
this?
Who
brought
this
say
you
okay,
I,
think
was
a
good
one
to
bring
and
so
you're
welcome,
and
so,
if
I
was
just
to
take
a
couple
of
you
know,
my
takeaways
are
this:
that
you
need
to
be
intentional
about
it,
and
so
that's
gonna
require
maybe
changing
some
of
the
ways
we
do
things
in
terms
of
the
race
gender
in
an
age.
J
The
other
thing
is
so
we
used
to
receive
annual
reports
from
all
of
our
Commission's
and
I.
Don't
know
why
we
stopped,
and
it
was
just
something
that
helped
us
to
always
stay
abreast
of
the
moving
pieces
that
they'd
run
our
time,
because
we
I
mean
I,
can't
monetize
it,
but
they
committees.
These
volunteers
do
a
lot
of
work
along
with
with
our
staff,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
that
that
come
back
and
I
was
gonna.
J
Ask
all
of
them
fist
that
we
refer
it
back
to
rules,
so
it
does
involve
the
mayor
and
it
will
involve
some
changes
and
I
think
this
conversation
deserves
to
the
brought
up
in
front
of
full
council.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion
that
when
it
comes
back,
this
is
a
chair
that
we
refer
to
our
rules
committee.
Sure.
A
Yeah
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
have
the
mayor
as
a
part
of
this
conversation,
because
ultimately,
our
City
Council
rules
give
him
that
authority
and
the
I'd
like
to
suggest
is
that
I
know
that
there
are
some
firms
and
employers
who
give
their
employees
they.
They
want
them
to
go
out
and
do
public
service,
and
they
give
them
time
off.
To
do
that.
A
I
don't
know
whether
we've
reached
out
to
employers
in
Evanston
to
provide
a
paid
to
our
window
for
an
employee
to
be
part
of
a
board
and
Commission
that
may
affect
you
know
what
time
of
day
a
board
or
Commission
meets,
but
I
think
that's
a
possibility
too,
to
try
to
find
some
more
folks
who
might
be
interested
in
in
applying,
but
to
think
a
little
bit
creatively.
I
I,
don't
want
to
focus
on
developers.
A
A
The
first
thing
is,
you
know
how
many,
how
many
applications
are,
do
we
have
that
are
sitting
around
if
any
and
how
that
decision
is
made
and
I
think
this,
ultimately
will
be
a
direction
to
the
mayor
that
we
have
a
policy
and
the
policy
is
something
then
that
he
can
follow
and
still
we're
not
taking
the
authority
away
from
him,
but
were
the
suggestion
is
that
this
is
a
policy
that
we
should.
We
should
follow.
A
J
A
J
J
Then
our
staff
is
able
to
to
keep
track
of
it,
but
I
think
what
I'm
interested
in
it
was
clear
with
all
of
them.
Simmons
request
is
what
type
of
notification
tools
do
you
have
you
know
what
I
mean
so
I
would
like
to
have
information.
That's
pushed
to
me
that
alerts
us
when
there's
an
opening
in
a
particular
committee
and
that's
what
I
heard
her
asking
and
I.
I
I
I
A
Well,
I
want
to
thank
chief
Lewis
for
coming
tonight
and
no
he's
on
hh8,
yeah
and
and
and
chief
cook.
So
could
you
both
come
up
and.
H
And
I
preferred
this
here,
based
on
actually
the
complaint,
that's
in
the
register
tonight
I
think
it's
1802.
That
involved
in
northwestern
student
and
I
went
to
watch
the
video
and
talk
to
Oh
PS
about
it,
and
it
was
a
northwestern
student,
but
it
also
involved
Northwestern
officers
and
so
I
was
interested
to
see
how
I'm
sure
there's
a
memorandum
I
understand
about
how
we
work
together.
You
know
this
young
man.
H
Nothing
was
arrested
as
he
was,
but
anyway,
whatever
happened,
you
know,
does
northwestern
have
a
system
where
students
or
whoever
have
interactions
with
northwestern
police
officers,
make
a
complaint.
Does
northwestern
police
have
jurisdiction
to
arrest
Evanston
citizens,
or
do
they
only
arrest?
You
know
I,
have
those
kind
of
questions
sure
start
to
start.
My
questions
again.
H
Q
H
Q
Q
Q
Just
recently,
chief
cook
invited
us
to
participate
in
the
National
out
National
Night
Out
ceremony,
as
well
as
police,
Memorial,
Day
recognition
and
celebration.
So
in
my
16
years,
I've
had
the
benefit
of
working
in
collaboration
with
chief
Kaminski,
chief
Addington
and
our
chief
cook,
and
we
have
worked
well
within
the
framework
of
the
MOU.
Q
But
the
real
I
think
the
real
benefit
is
how
it
materialized
at
the
line
level
how
the
men
and
women
interact
and
it
affords
the
confidence
in
the
trust
at
that
level
as
a
force
multiplier
in
building
community
transparency
in
confidence
of
our
community.
So,
as
I
view
it,
both
departments
have
benefited
through
this
Memorandum
of
Understanding
as
given
us
more
empowerment
to
affect
the
rest,
but
that's
only
secondary
to
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
community
building.
Okay.
H
H
H
Our
officer
made
an
error
which
is
noted
in
the
file
here,
but
he
made
a
comment
to
one
of
your
officers
that
the
officer
didn't
believe
and
the
student
was
accurate,
and
so
you
know
with
with
no
judgment,
I
think
it's
probably
you
know
not
the
end
of
the
world,
but
probably
worth
you
taking
a
look
at.
If
you
have
a
few
minutes,
because
you
know
I
assume
the
young
man
week,
it
was
savvy
enough
to
know
he
can
make
a
complaint
here.
I.
H
A
Okay,
so
I'm
a
little
confused.
So
tell
me
what
happens
when
you
abreast
an
Evanston
resident
or
a
northwestern
student?
What
just
tell
me
what
happens
so
that
person
is
arrested
and
where
do
they
go?
Who,
as
EPD
notified
I
mean,
do
they
go
to
APD
or
do
you
hold
them
on
campus?
So.
Q
Irrespective
to
affiliation
whether
student
are
citizens
is
not
affiliated
with
Northwestern
University,
the
procedures
are
consistent.
In
that
we
affect
the
arrest.
We
take
them
to
our
Police
Department
at
1201,
Davis
Street.
We
then
process
them
in
terms
of
fingerprinting,
photographing
and
complete
the
necessary
police
reports
from
there.
We
then
transport
them
through
Evanston
Police
Department,
where
they
are
booked
in
jail.
Until
such
time
they
can
meet
the
bond.
H
Up
some
time
ago,
if
you
all
remember,
we
had
a
citizen
who
came
and-
and
she
I
believe,
was
homeless
or
have
been
in
and
out
of
homelessness,
and
she
made
a
complaint
that
or
under
oath
westerns
campus
and
I,
don't
know
what
she
was
doing,
but
don't
know
what
the
questions
can't
be.
She
felt
like
the
homeless
are
harassed
and
or
they're,
not
even
homeless.
I
think
her
feeling
was
that
citizens
who
are
on
campus
are
kind
of
shooed
away
and
I.
H
Remember
that
very
clearly,
I
didn't
do
anything
about
it,
but
I
remember
very
clearly
that
that
was
what
she
claimed
to
be
her
interaction
when
she
was
on
campus.
But
again
this
this.
You
know
this
complaint
that
would
just
looked
at
tonight
involved
no
Northwestern
officer
not
as
being
complained
on,
but
they
were
in
the
footage.
Yeah.
A
A
Q
A
P
P
The
process
that
chief
Lewis
spoke
about
with
respect
to
you
know
northwestern
processes,
I've
been
a
policeman
for
39
years,
and
it's
been
that
way.
Even
when
I
worked
at
Northwestern
University
in
1980,
it
was
the
same
process.
We
would
look
at
our
station
and
transport
to
the
city
of
Evanston
for
housing
and
transport
out
to
the
second
district.
Okay,.
A
Q
We
receive
a
call
directly
in
our
communication
center,
a
dispatch
center
about
a
noise
complaint
or
unruly
party.
We
notify
Evanston
police
immediately
and
then
we
respond
jointly
with
Evanston
PD
to
that
residence
under
the
memorandum
of
understanding
being
that
it's
a
private
residence
and
it's
not
within
public
domain
da
repair
or
street
or
sidewalk
EPD
has
the
primary
responsibility
in
jurisdiction
and
we
are
there
to
support
their
enforcement
actions,
whether
it's
a
warning
or
C
ticket
issue.
Okay,.
A
Q
The
memorandum
of
understanding,
if
an
offense
occurs
within
the
expanded
policing
jurisdiction
geographically
within
the
presence
of
the
officer
and
it's
within
the
public
purview
a
street
or
sidewalk,
then
the
officer
can
effect
the
arrest
if
it's
in
a
private
setting
than
we
defer
to
Evanston.
Okay.
G
Q
A
H
Else,
I
have
a
quick
question,
so
looking
at
your
website,
I
was
gonna.
Ask
if
you
produce
a
blotter
which
I
see
you
do.
We've
had
a
lot
of
citizens
interested
in
what
I
would
call
stop
and
frisk
or
traffic
stops,
and
if
you
would
be
so
kind
as
to
get
us
a
report.
What
I'm
looking
on
your
website
is
only
reports
from
last
year,
so
I
know
you're,
not
the
IT
person,
but
you're.
H
You
know
first
through
fourth
quarter
of
last
year
are
available
on
your
website
under
the
field
and
traffic
stops
and
I
would
be
very
interested
to
see
what
the
numbers
look
like
this
year.
If
you
have
them
available
in
addition
on
your
your
crime,
blotter
you
have
a
daily
bladder.
I
would
be
interested
to
see
if,
if
you
have
the
ability
to
get
us,
a
report
for
non
citizen,
I
mean
on
student
arrest.
I
know
it
comes
in
our
report,
but
I
can't
necessary
just
like
for
who
was
arrested
by
who
on
our
report.
I.
H
A
Okay
and
any
other
comments-
yes,
okay,
so
then
we
have
items
for
communication.
Hhh
is
response
to
referral
from
the
August
5th
City
Council
meeting
on
the
Memorandum
of
Understanding,
between
Northwestern
Police
Department
in
Evanston,
Police
Department.
That's.
A
H
All
right,
so
that's
mine
and
that's
very
quick.
Can
you
just
tell
me
what
the
law
is
so
in
that
same
video,
the
young
male
was
asked
for
his
ID,
and
that
became
part
of
his
complaint.
If
I
am
walking
down
the
street
and
a
police
says,
can
I
have
your
ID
do
I
have
to
produce
it?
Oh
yeah,
so
let
me
read:
this
I
was
just
going
through
this
in
Arizona
walking
down
the
street.
Only
person
on
the
street,
a
police
car
came
on
the
sidewalk
with
his
light
salon.
H
I
of
course,
turn
around
and
slide.
What
is
he
going
he's
jumped
out
and
asked
for
my
ID
right
I
said
no,
because
I,
first
of
all,
never
bent
and
stopped
by
police,
but
to
have
your
lights
and
siren
on
on
the
sidewalk
was
a
little.
He
gave
me
a
ticket
for
jaywalking,
which
is
another
story,
but
can't
do
I
have
I.
Think
it's
important
to
people
know
if
they
have
the
rights
they
produce
their
ID
or
not
like
what
is
the
rule.
N
Commander
officer
professional
standards,
what
we
use
is
a
law
that
says
reasonable
suspicion
and
what
that
means
is.
If
an
officer
has
reasonable
reasonable
suspicion
that
a
crime
is
about
to
be
committed,
has
been
committed
or
it's
going
to
be
committed.
Then
they
have
the
right
to
ask
you
for
identification.
N
N
If
you
ask-
and
you
say
well,
why
do
you
stop?
Why
do
you
need
it?
Then
an
officer
should
be
able
to
articulate
why
they
have
reasonable
suspicion.
It's
called
articulable
suspicion,
so
they
should
be
able
to
do
that
now.
There's
nothing
that
precludes
that
I've
read
an
officer
for
asking
you
for
identification
at
any
point,
but
you
have
a
right
to
say:
I'm,
not
giving
it
to
you.
H
H
D
N
N
A
A
J
I'm
sorry
was
that
really
quick
items.
Sorry,
it
was
clear
that
there's
a
memo
of
understanding
with
the
Evanston
police
as
well
as
Northwestern.
One
of
the
issues
that
have
come
up
just
worked.
A
couple
of
situations
over
the
summer
is
that
there
is
not
a
memo
of
understanding
with
the
Evanston
police
in
district
65.
So
I
know
that
that's
something
that
our
legal
department
is
working
on
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
your
attention
and
to
the
attention
of
this
committee.