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A
We
have
a
quorum,
so
we
will
get
started
and
our
first
item
of
business
is
approval
of
minutes
of
our
last
meeting.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
Yeah,
I
move
approval
of
the
minutes
from
what
is
it
march,
7th
yep.
D
A
Okay
and
then,
I
believe,
would
all
everyone
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
So
we
have
the
minutes
of
our
last
regular
meeting
approved
and
now
we're
ready
for
some
public
comment.
We'll
start
with
the
folks
who
are
here,
tony
schlacks,.
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
read
the
revised
proposal
in
depth
and
to
point
out
one
key
observation,
which
is
that
under
clause
five,
if
an
organization
or
business
has
a
special
event,
permit
they're
excluded
from
having
to
abide
by
this
ordinance,
except
for
the
time
of
morning
or
night,
which
would
exclude
the
loudest
event
during
the
year,
which
are
the
space
concerts
out
at
canal
shores.
E
And
I
assume
they
have
not
requested
that
special
permit
yet
for
this
year,
although
they
did
start
selling
tickets
for
the
events
from
august
4th
through
7th
at
canal
shores
last
week.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
I'm
sorry
which
we
approved,
we
approved
a
whole
set
of
special
event.
Permit
applicants
a
month
or
two
ago,
okay,
barbara
wallace,.
F
I'm
barbara
wallace
and
I'm
speaking
for
myself
and
my
spouse,
tom
wolf
and
we
live
at
1617
lee
street
in
evanston.
We
support
the
proposed
changes
to
the
sound
ordnance.
F
We
live
across
from
the
crown
athletic
fields
and
we
know
how
much
noise
can
carry
across
an
open
area,
so
we're
sympathetic
to
the
residents
on
asbury
and
we
feel
that
the
changes
adequately
address
the
situation
with
the
american
legion.
We
aren't
sure
that
the
changes
address
our
concerns
at
the
crown
athletic
fields
and
want
to
be
sure
that
the
sound
ordinance
applies
to
all
residential
neighborhoods.
F
We
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
highlight
the
concerns
we
have
and
to
make
sure
we're
covered
by
any
changes
in
the
ordinance.
We
want
to
preface
this
by
saying
that
we
support
public
use
of
the
fields.
We
love
them
and
we
appreciate
the
benefit
they
provide,
especially
to
young
people
in
evanston
and
especially
during
the
pandemic,
but
some
of
the
houses
are
less
than
a
hundred
feet
from
the
fields
and
there's
nothing
between
us
in
the
fields.
No
buildings,
no
landscaping
and
many
days
when
the
leagues
of
all
sorts
use
the
field.
F
It
reminds
us
that
we
live
in
a
vibrant
community
when
the
washington
kindergarteners
are
playing
tag
and
screaming
it's
our
favorite
time
of
the
day,
but
other
times
many
of
us
would
like
a
break
from
the
noise.
We've
been
told
to
call
the
staff
at
the
crown
center
when
it's
open.
If
speakers
are
on
the
field-
and
we
do
that,
but
we
don't
want
to
encourage
conflict
between
the
staff
and
the
people
who
use
the
field
when
the
old
crown
center
was
there
there
weren't
lights
and
no
fields
were
this
close
to
homes.
F
To
that
end,
some
of
us
have
recommended,
using
the
lights
less,
to
reduce
the
number
of
people
with
curb
noise
without
anyone
having
to
resort
to
noise
complaints
to
the
crown
center,
we've
asked
for
the
lights
to
go
off
at
9
pm
and
have
asked
for
maybe
one
regular
night
with
no
lights
a
night
or
two
a
week.
That
neighbors
could
know
ahead
of
time
would
be
a
quiet
night.
F
Some
of
the
nights,
the
lights
are
on
until
11
p.m,
with
our
neighbor
alex
schiffer,
we
surveyed
37
homes
near
the
field
and
30
supported
this
idea,
some
because
of
the
sound
and
some
because
they
find
the
busyness
or
the
lights
intrusive.
We've
suggested
sound
abatement
technologies,
including
soundproof,
fencing
or
landscaping,
and
finally,
better
signage,
bluetooth.
Speakers
are
everywhere
now
and
they
work
really
really
well
and
they
carry
really
well.
F
They
aren't
allowed
on
the
field,
but
the
signage
is
very
poor
for
that.
It's
very
small
and
people
don't
see
it
and
a
simple
solution
would
be
larger
and
simpler
and
better
signage,
because
that
would
reduce
any
friction
between
the
staff
at
crown
center
and
the
people
who
use
the
field
again.
We
support
the
public
spaces,
including
the
crown
fields.
A
Oh
thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
our
attention.
A
We
will
see
what
we
can
do,
I'm
just
making
a
little
note
to
myself.
Okay,
then
online,
just
a
minute
chris
dillo.
B
B
I
am
imploring
this
committee
to
consider
the
human
impact
of
concentrating
a
large
number
of
vulnerable
individuals
at
one
location
at
the
margarita
inn
in
the
fourth
ward.
I
do
not
believe
that
the
city
or
this
committee
can
quantify
the
impact
financially
or
in
required
services
resulting
in
this
concentration
of
individuals.
B
Connections
for
the
homeless
failed
horrifically
at
the
orington
and
are
failing
their
residents
and
their
neighbors
at
the
margarita
inn
right
now,
not
because
of
bad
intent,
but
because
they
continue
attempting
to
implement
a
failed
model
by
applying
as
a
rooming
house
and
the
city
ruling
that
they
meet.
B
That
designation
is
a
disingenuous
way
for
connections
for
the
homeless,
to
advocate
its
responsibilities,
to
carry
out
best
practices
with
measures
and
oversight
that
ensure
the
safety
and
protection
of
all
concerned
best
practices
that
would
include
not
housing,
large
numbers
of
homeless,
vulnerable
individuals
together
without
serious,
substantial
professional
supports
on
hand
around
the
clock.
The
safety
and
well-being
of
residents
of
a
shelter
and
the
safety
and
well-being
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood
are
not
are
not
part
and
parcel
to
each
other.
One
is
not
exclusive
to
the
other
again.
B
We
hope
this
body
will
demand
information
on
how
many
police,
ems
and
medical
and
mental
services
will
be
required.
What
connections
will
do
to
support
it
and
how
the
city
of
evanston
will
make
up
the
difference
and
help
the
broader
council
do
its
job
to
make
the
best
decision
for
the
fourth
war
in
the
city
of
evanston?
A
Thank
you
and
this
this
committee,
actually
is
not
the
body.
That's
going
to
be
discussing
the
margarita
in
issue
that
there'll
be
a
zoning
board
of
appeal
or
a
land
use
commission
meeting
and
then
it'll
go
to
the
planning
and
development
committee.
G
Hello,
I'm
just
making
sure
you
can
hear
me
yep.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
in
advance
for
this
opportunity.
I
am
a
38-year
resident
of
evanston
in
the
fourth
ward,
and
I
also,
along
with
chris,
wanted
to
talk
about
this
issue.
The
residents
of
the
fourth
ward,
who
questioned
the
initiative
of
connections
establishing
a
rooming
house
by
the
margheritan,
have
been
called
nimby's
out
of
touch
and
unsympathetic,
but
instead
it
is
connections.
We
believe
that
needs
to
cultivate
more
compassion.
G
Why
would
connections
choose
to
operate
a
facility
and
call
it
a
rooming
house
rather
than
the
more
accurate
homeless,
shelter
or
supportive
housing
if
our
nation's
homeless
suffer
from
the
tri-morbidity
of
mental
illness,
medical
illness
and
addiction
at
a
rate
of
86
percent,
and
need
extensive
monitoring,
treatment
and
care?
Why
would
connections
promised
to
only
give
them
a
temporary
shelter
in
a
rooming
house
connections
seeks
an
operating
agreement
which
is
largely
funded
by
the
taxpayers,
both
local
and
federal,
that
allows
them
to
provide
fewer
services
with
less
oversight
and
fewer
regulations.
G
If
connections
plans
to
have
an
effective,
24-hour
trained
staff,
wrap
around
services,
meals,
health
care
therapy,
job
training,
then
it
should
apply
for
the
proper,
more
regulated
permitting
for
that
property
and
not
the
quick
rooming
house
application,
which
offers
little
more
than
heads
in
beds
in
the
months
that
they
have
operated
the
margarita
in
they
have
failed.
Their
charges
miserably
there
have
been
over
60
911
calls
in
less
than
52
weeks,
fires,
overdoses,
a
death,
fights
violent
threats,
children
left
unattended
and
vandalism.
G
The
list
goes
on
and
several
of
those
calls
were
horribly
from
other
residents
inside
the
margarita
inn.
So
when
you
ask
connections
how,
in
the
future,
the
neighborhood
should
best
deal
with
these
emergencies,
you
were
told
simply
call
the
police
through
their
irresponsible
hands-off
design
connections.
Practices
are,
in
effect,
criminalizing
the
vulnerable,
the
mentally
illness
and
the
addicted.
G
You
don't
like
the
drunk
gentleman
in
the
rose
garden
called
the
police.
You
have
a
problem
with
connections
and
the
residents
trying
to
break
in
your
back
door.
Call
the
police,
the
guy,
is
having
a
fight
in
the
middle
of
oak
avenue
in
the
middle
of
the
night
called
police
long
time.
Housing
advocates,
such
as
connections,
are
resting
on
a
dogmatic
approach,
outdated
principles
that
are
not
grounded
in
fact,
which
include
fact
the
entire
united
states
now
understands
it
is
never
a
good
idea
to
stockpile
vulnerable
people,
but
rather
create
careful
selected,
scattered
sites.
G
G
A
Thank
you,
so
is
anyone
else
here
tonight
want
to
make
any
public
comment.
A
All
right,
then
we're
ready
to
go
on
with
our
agenda.
Would
someone
make
a
motion
for
hs1
regarding
city
code,
9-5-20.
D
A
Excuse
me,
I'm
just
going
to
review
what
the
various
changes
are.
So,
as
you
know
so,
the
first
paragraph
is
would
be
completely
deleted
from
this
section,
because
the
reasonable
person
standard
is
really
very
subjective
and
difficult
to
enforce.
A
Moving
on
then
to
the
more
substantive
part
of
the
changes
so
section
f2,
music
and
amplified
sound,
it
regulates
the
sound
level
rather
than
the
location
of
the
loudspeakers
it,
and
it
says
that
the
sound
that
reaches
a
person
750
feet
away
from
the
amplifier
or
loudspeaker
should
be
no
louder
than
55
decibels.
At
our
last
meeting,
the
language
talked
about
an
average
conversation
level
and
it
was
determined
that
having
a
decibel
limit
was
much
would
be
easier
to
enforce.
A
So
the
there
are
a
lot
of
examples
of
what
a
you
know.
Conversational
level
is
they
arrange
around
660
dbs,
and
so
the
proposal
before
you
tonight
is
for
55
dbs,
then
section
f4
permit
required.
A
It
provides
that
if
you
are
going
to
use
an
amplifier
or
a
loudspeaker
outdoors,
you
must
you
must
obtain
a
loudspeaker
permit
and
the
permit
pro,
and
it
also
provides
that
a
permit
shall
not
be
issued
for
a
loudspeaker,
that's
located
within
150
feet
of
a
residence,
and
this
continues
to
provide
the
protection
for
residents
whose
neighbors
might
want
to
use
a
loudspeaker
close
to
close
to
their
homes.
A
That's
a
problem
in
some
of
our
neighborhoods,
so,
together,
subsection,
f2
and
f4
continue
to
disallow
loudspeakers
within
150
feet
of
a
residence,
but
they
do
allow
loudspeakers
further
than
150
feet
as
long
as
the
sound
level
does
not
exceed
55
dbs
at
a
distance
of
750
feet.
This
is
all
a
little
complicated
section.
F5
is
exemptions.
A
The
first
sentence
exempts
organizations
that
have
obtained
a
special
event.
Permit
that's
been
approved
by
the
city
council.
It
exempts
them
from
the
sub
the
section
about
the
decibel
limit
and,
for
example,
as
tony
schlacks
pointed
out,
that
would
allow
the
space
concerts
to
continue.
A
There
is
a
correction
that's
needed
to
that
sentence,
though
we
should
strike
the
it.
It
says
that
they're
exempt
from
both
f2
and
f4.
They
should
be
exempt
only
from
f2.
They
would
still
be
required
to
get
a
loudspeaker
permit.
So
when
I
get
finished
here,
I
I'll
make
a
motion
to
amend
that
to
strike
f4
and
then
in
the
second
sentence.
It's
added
since
our
last
meeting
and
that's
to
there
was
a
concern
expressed
at
our
last
meeting
about
some
unintended
consequences.
A
Neither
northwestern
nor
eths
are
currently
required
to
obtain
any
permits
for
their
loudspeakers,
so
this
basically
maintains
the
status
quo.
So
can
I
open
it
up
for
any
questions
or
comments
from
committee
members,
council,
member
burns.
C
C
Maybe
some
of
the
council
members
have
some
loud
speakers
at
their
at
their
house
that
we
can
use
as
an
example,
but
this
is
very
abstract,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
one
how
it's
going
to
be
enforced
by
ivinson
police
department
and
what
55
decibels
really
is
at
that
distance.
So
again,
I'm
fine
supporting
this,
but
I
would
I
would
request
so.
C
Something
just
I
need
to
see
what
this
looks
like
in
in
in
real
time
and
and
know
that
we
have.
You
know
the
equipment,
and
you
know
our
police
department
who
enforce
our
noise
ordinance
understand
exactly
how
to
enforce
this
and
yeah.
I
mean
if
they
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
If
they,
I
don't
know,
if
we've
ever
done
anything
like
that
before,
but
but
that's
something
that
I
would
want
to
make
sure
we
do.
C
Because
again,
I
one
of
my
concerns
during
the
last
meeting
was:
how
does
the
the
reader
know
the
difference
between
the
cars
rushing
by
a
street
and
the
noise?
That's
in
the
background.
How
is
it
able
to
to
distinguish
between
each
noise
and
like
filter
out
one,
but
only
but
measure
the
other
it
just?
H
A
Challenges
it
well.
Maybe
chief
eddington
would
like
to
give
us
his
thoughts.
I
mean
I
my
thought
would
be
that
apd
would
have
a
handful
of
actual
sound
meters,
so
we're
not
relying
on
people's
iphone,
sound
meters
and
so
the.
If
there
was
a
complaint,
the
officer
would
go
to
the
location
where
the
complaint
was
made,
I.e
the
the
residence
750
feet
away
and
whip
out
the
sound
meter
and
see
just
what
the
sound
reading
was
and
take
steps
from
there.
Chief
edict
and
you
want
to
comment.
I
Thank
you,
chairperson,
yes,
we'll
be,
we
could
be
happy
to
do
this
once
the
ordinance
is
on
its
way,
we'll
start
to
collect
the
equipment
we
need,
because
I
think
one
of
the
other
nuanced
things
is
we'll
probably
need
to
have
is
is
a
a
range
finder,
so
we
accurately
say
yep
750,
and
so
with
that,
with
the
sound
meter
and
we'd
be
happy
to
demo
that,
for
you,
sir,
when
when
we
collect
all
that
equipment
perfect,
thank
you
thanks
chief,
thank
you.
A
And
I
think
the
other
thing
that
will
help
is
since
anyone
who's
going
to
be
using
a
loudspeaker
needs
to
get
the
loudspeaker
permit.
And
then
I
think,
if
the
permit,
when
a
permit
is
granted
if
a
copy
goes
to
epd
they'll
know
that
there
might
be
a
complaint
on
that
particular
night,
because
the
permits
issued
so
it
will
be.
A
Okay,
then,
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
motion
to
amend
the
it's.
It's
gonna
be
on
page
eight
of
our
of
your
packet.
A
A
A
A
So
could
I
have
a
second
for
that
amendment.
C
Move
that
amendment
to
what
is
it
section,
two
striking.
A
C
A
Right
right
right,
that's
right!
I
second
that
so
can
we
just
do
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
no
all
right
and
then
now
we're
ready
for
the
main
motion,
as
amended
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
C
A
Opposed
no,
I
think
I
think
we're
done.
Okay,
then
now
we're
ready
for
items
for
communication,
evanston,
police
department,
staffing
vacancies
and
crime
data
updates.
I
Thank
you,
chairperson.
The
members
of
the
committee
should
have
in
their
packet
tonight
a
memorandum
dated
april
4th
that
deals
with
the
vacancies
and
also
it
deals
with
the
staffing
levels
over
time
in
the
number
of
officers
in
the
crime
levels,
as
requested
by
council
member
reid.
The
last
time
we
were
here,
I
think,
there's
some
added
additional
explanations
in
there
about
how
we've
changed,
how
we
count
crime
over
time,
which
you're
kind
of
really
get
into
the
weeds.
I
But
I
think
all
those
changes
have
leveled
out
with
this
being
the
third
year
of
the
neighbor
system.
So
we
should
account
for
any
influxes
in
crime
based
on
how
we're
counting,
so
that
that
should
be
we're
comparing
apples
to
apples
for
the
last
three
years,
and
I
will
continue
to
provide
this
data
as
as
we
go
through,
especially
in
the
context
of
our
staffing.
I
Currently,
the
evanston
police
department
has
98
police
officers.
44
of
those
98
are
tier,
2
pensioners,
which
means
that
their
pensions
are
portable,
as
were
the
24
officers
that
have
left
us
for
other
organizations.
So
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
as
we
go
forward.
If
there's
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
try
and
answer
them.
H
H
Thank
you,
thank
you
chief,
so
I
wasn't
sure
I
saw
that,
but
then
I
didn't
understand
what
the
grand
total
was
equally.
Nor
do
I,
okay,
it's
it's
not
consistent,
okay,
okay,
but
I
paid
attention.
So
this
is
good.
Thank
you.
A
And
any
other
questions
or
comments.
I
A
A
All
right,
then,
I
guess,
do
we
need
a
motion
to
accept
and
place
on
file.
I.
A
And
is
there
a
second
second?
Okay,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
oppose
no,
all
right!
We've
taken
care
of
that
one
and
then
hs2.
There
was
a
police
complaint
in
our
packet.
J
J
J
It
was
not
sustained
by
the
patrol
sergeant
rules,
1
and
20
were
sustained
by
the
patrol
commander
or
I'm
sorry,
the
commander's
recommendations.
The
deputy
chief
concurred
that
the
recommendations
of
sustaining
rule
1
violating
rules,
one
in
20,
with
the
shift
level
counseling
to
address
the
customer
service
issue,
was
appropriate.
J
H
J
All
crs
people
will
receive
a
phone
call
email,
we'll
reach
out
to
them
several
ways
this
this
complainant
didn't
want
to
lodge
a
complaint.
They
were
fine
with
us,
going
investigating
ops,
investing
as
a
di,
so
the
level
of
will
always
be
available
for
follow-up,
but
that
formal,
multiple
layers
of
engagement
got.
It
is
different.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
very.
H
A
Okay,
so
would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
and
place
on
file
their
report.
B
H
Oh
I'm
sure
I'd
like
to
move
just.
C
A
quick
question:
okay,
does
this
describe
what
shift
level
counseling
is
in
here.
J
Madam
chair
members
of
committee,
alderman
burns
so
shift
level.
Counseling
would
typically
be
something
along
these
lines.
A
supervisor
would
sit
down
with
the
accused
officer.
The
officer
had
the
complaint,
sustained
and
re
review,
the
rule,
violations
with
them
and
and
and
then
give
some
direction,
and
some
counseling
is
how
to
correct
the
behavior
so
such
in
this
situation,
we
would
potentially
review
the
body-worn
camera
pick
out
areas
that
we
thought
were
deficient
and
provide
ways
not
to
do
that
again.
J
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
now
a
motion
to
accept
and
place
on
file
the
this
review.
H
A
Oppose
no,
I
mean
yeah
all
right,
so
we
have
taken
care
of
our
agenda
just
before
we
adjourn.