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A
Brian,
are
we
waiting
on
anybody?
It
seems
like
everybody's
here
extraordinarily
promptly.
B
Right
you
know,
they're
the
members
or
the
representatives
of
the
american
legion
were
informed
about
the
meeting.
So
oh
I
see
my
cues
just
jumped
on
so
yeah.
I
think
everybody's
here.
B
A
Hi
there,
oh
and
there's
council
member
newsma
who's
here
for
the
oop
for
the
first
to
join
the
item
all
right.
Well
then,
let's
just
get
started,
everyone
you're
all
very
prompt,
and
I
don't
wanna.
I
don't
wanna
delay
anybody
warning,
I'm
we
all
have
strengths
and
weaknesses.
Running
meetings
on
zoom
is
one
of
my
weaknesses.
So
sorry.
D
Excuse
me,
this
is
mike
hughes
from
post
42.
If
I
could
just,
I
noticed
that
greg
lozinski
was
not
included,
he's
our
he's.
The
judge
advocate
for
post
42
and
I
saw
that
he
didn't
actually
receive
a
an
invitation,
is
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
could,
someone
could
afford
him
the
official
invitation
so
that
if
he
were
to
try
and
join
the
there's.
D
A
Okay
thanks
great
thanks
and
the
item
in
question
is
the
last
item
on
the
agenda.
So
he'll
have
a
few
minutes
to
join
right.
So
with
that,
I'm
called
to
order
the
january
24th
meeting
of
the
liquor
control
review
board.
E
A
A
Cool,
so,
commissioner,
macbeth
moves
that
we
suspend
the
rules
to
allow
participation
electronically
or
by
telephone
commissioner
phillips
seconds
any
discussion.
None.
Commissioner
macbeth,
I
agree,
mr
phillips,
I
I
vote
I
as
well
so
three
in
favor
on
voting
against
the
rules
are
suspended
and
this
meeting
is
now
legal,
which
is
great
news.
Next
is
public
comment?
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
seeking
to
give
comment?
A
Council
member
claire
kelly
has
raised
her
hand
just
just
obviously
you're
welcome
to
give
public
comment
council
member,
but
I
also
want
to
share
that.
The
sort
of
habit
of
this
committee
is,
if
pretty.
A
It's
a
pretty
small
group,
so
we
we
allow
members
of
the
public
to
engage
in
the
discussions
on
specific
items
as
they
arise.
So
if
you
want
to
get
public
comment
now,
that's
fine
or
if
you
prefer,
to
just
give
your
comments
as
a
part
of
the
discussion
on
the
issue
that
you're
going
to
discuss.
That's
fine
as
well
as
you
prefer.
I
just
wonder
if
this
is
recorded.
Yes,
it's
being
recorded.
Okay,.
A
F
I'll
move
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
december
17th
meeting.
A
E
A
So,
commissioner,
phillips
moves
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
december
17th
meeting
commissioner
seconds
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
commissioner
macbeth.
A
Mr
phillips,
yes,
I
vote
I
as
well
so
with
three
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
minutes
are
approved.
This
brings
us
to
our
actual
business
for
the
day.
The
first
item
item
five.
A
on
your
agendas
is
the
is
the
class
c
license
application
for
dollar?
A
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion,
so
we
can
begin
discussion
then
I
think
I
see
council
member
new
smith's
here
as
well
as
I
think,
deon
weiss,
but
to
begin
this,
with
someone
like
to
make
a
motion.
A
All
right
so
there's
been
a
motion
by
commissioner
phillips
and
seconded
by
commissioner
macbeth,
and
I
gathered
that
the
opponents
would
like
to
make
a
presentation
who
who's
who
would
like
to
go.
First.
C
C
This
will
be
a
coffee
cafe
operating
seven
days
a
week
from
seven
in
the
morning
to
11
pm.
Liquor
will
be
a
smaller
portion
of
the
product
being
sold
it's
food
and
coffee
and
to
go
pastries
and
things
like
that.
So
we're
looking
to
get
open
as
soon
as
possible
somewhere
in
the
next
month
or
so.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
would
like,
or
maybe
dan
can
chime
in
and
give
you
additional
information.
H
Guys
dan
dan
said
it
best.
It's
a
a
cafe
that
will
have
not
a
ton
of
seating
but
enough
seating
and
enough
sort
of
business
from
what
we
think
would
be
the
building
that
we're
in
the
neighborhood
to
warrant
wanting
to
do
some
small
liquor,
a
small
liquor
program.
H
H
G
Thumbs
up
from
the
fourth
world
council
member,
welcome
to
the
neighborhood
dan
looking
forward
to
stopping
in
for
a
cup
of
coffee
as
soon
as
you
guys
are
ready.
Thanks.
F
No
question
for
me,
but
just
one
comment-
and
this
is
a
matter
of
pedantic
housekeeping,
but
I
noticed
on
the
agenda
that
we
have
this
agenda
saying
the
applications
for
class
c
in
parentheses,
restaurant
license
and
I
think
it
should
be
class
c
hotel
or
restaurant,
and
I'm
only
pointing
that
out
so
that
we
have
that
correct
on
the
meeting
minutes.
So
again,
my
apologies
for
being
the
stickler
here.
A
Bye
yeah
good
right.
C
If
I
may,
I'm
okay,
I've
done
a
lot
of
liquor
licenses,
but
they've
all
been
in
the
city
of
chicago
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
the
the
license
application
there
in
evanston.
F
This
is
this,
isn't
anything
you
guys
did
wrong?
This
is
just.
I
think
this
is
just
a
slight
note-taking
error
on
our
part.
G
You've
got
you're
co-located
with
who's
your
mama
down
on
chicago
avenue.
Oh.
H
Yeah
there
there
are
14
branded
locations
and
then
we
have
a
few
other
brands
of
coffee
shops
as
well,
but
we've
been
in
at
the
location
with
hoosier
mama
for
gosh.
I
think,
seven
years
now,
which
is
hard
to
believe
something
like
that
which
is
out
of
control
in
my
head
right
now
but
yeah.
That's
that's
the
closest
to
that's
the
only
evanston
location
but
we're
throughout
the
city,
mostly
mostly
east,
closer
to
the
lake.
H
The
original
location
was
in
uptown
our
buena
park,
neighborhood
by
irving
and
lake
shore
area,
and
I
opened
that
one
or
I
didn't
open
a
bridge.
I
actually
bought
the
original
from
the
original
owners
in
2011
and
then
grew
the
the
company
from
there
yeah
and
I
went
to
high
school.
I
went
to
I
went
to
royce
moore.
I
graduated
from
royce
moore
about
1
000
years
ago
this
day.
A
And
congratulations:
yeah.
I've.
A
All
right
seeing
none,
I
think,
we're
ready
for
for
the
vote.
Commissioner
macbeth.
Yes,
mr
phillips
right
and
I
vote
I
as
well
so
three
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
the
motion
passes
council
member
nusm
is.
A
That
you
would
like
to
see
on
the
I
guess
february
14th
agenda
for
both
introduction
and
action.
If
the
council
is
comfortable
with
that.
G
If
folks
would
like
to
get
it
done
sooner
rather
than
later,
that
would
be
great.
G
A
It's
pretty
customary,
though,
for
liquor
licenses
to
ask
the
council
to
suspend
the
rules
and
do
them
all
at
once,
and
if
that,
if
you
guys
and
council
members
agree
that
that's
your
preferred
path
forward,
we
would
ask
council
to
do
that
on
valentine's
day
and
then
there
would
only
be
one
vote
that
would
need
to
occur
and
you'd
have
your
liquor
license
at
that
point.
A
A
The
the
next
three
meetings
of
city
council
are
today,
which
is
too
late
to
change
the
agenda
february,
14th
and
february
28th.
A
H
Whatever's
whatever's
convenient
we're
not
going
to
be
open
by
that
day
or
you
know
so
whatever's
best
for
everybody.
Whatever
the
easiest
thing
is
for
everyone.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
as
you
as
you
heard
today
that
doesn't
seem
like
this
is
on
a
trajectory
to
be
super
controversial,
and
so
I
I
would
assume
everyone's
going
to
be
comfortable
with
one
vote,
one
evening
of
votes
being
enough,
so
we'll
we'll
give
it
a
go
and
if,
for
some
reason
something
comes
up,
then
we'll
then
we'll
be
two
votes.
A
Evanston
and
we'll
look
forward
to
to
having
coffee
there
when
it's,
when
it's
open
and
and
and
safe,
damn
you're
handling.
A
Dan,
what
dan
weiss's
hand
is
up
in
the
zoom,
but
that's
I
mean.
C
Do
we
have
any
questions
you
know?
Are
you
is
everybody
clear
on
the
operation
of
the
of
the
way
this
will
function,
it's
coffee
to
go
food
grab
and
go.
A
A
Again
and
and
congratulations.
C
A
A
You
this
brings
us
to
item
5b
a
proposed
amendment
to
class
s
ordnance.
Could
we
have
a
motion
on
this
so
that
there
can
be
discussion
and
again,
as
was
indicated
earlier,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
number
of
folks
who
would
like
to
be
to
participate
in
this
conversation.
F
Yes,
I
move
to
discuss
the
proposed
ordinance
for
the
class
s
revised
license.
I
believe
I
got
that
correct.
A
All
right
so,
commissioner,
phillips
moves
item
five
b,
commissioner
macbeth
seconds,
and
I
I
think
perhaps
it
would
be
best
to
begin
with
council
member
rebel,
who
I
know
has
been.
Oh,
I'm
not
sure
that
there
is
universal
agreement
there.
Well,
I
think.
G
A
A
I
I
Prior
up
until
2020
sale
of
alcohol
was
limited
to
the
members
and
guests
of
the
american
legion
and
in
2020
we
amended
that
to
remove
that
restriction
about
members
and
guests,
but
now
we
want
to
go
back
to
so
what?
What
meant?
That
meant,
then
that
the
american
legion
patio
area
was
becoming
like
a
regular
restaurant,
which
was
not
permitted
in
our
zoning
code.
So
by
approving
this
amendment
and
bringing
it
back
to
the
language
that
was
there
in
2020,
we'll
be
in
compliance
with
our
zoning
code,.
A
D
H
G
J
Yes,
I
if
I
just
pull
up
my
notes
here
for
a
second,
we
had
a
meeting
there.
J
Oh
sure,
my
name
is
greg
lazinski.
I
am
the
past
commander
of
evanston
post
42
and
I
currently
act
as
their
as
their
their
attorney.
Basically,
what
we
call
a
judge
advocate-
and
I
of
course
am
familiar
with
the
discussions,
because
I
was
involved
in
them.
Last
week
we
received
these
proposed
amendments
only
three
business
days
before
the
prior
meeting
and
in
the
course
of
our
gathering
information
and
having
the
discussion
we
did
last
week
and
the
discussions.
J
Of
course,
we
appreciate
some
other
really
very
important.
Things
have
come
to
our
knowledge
that
that
have
really
altered
the
position
of
post
42.
On
this.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
the
evidence
post
42
has
learned
that
there
is
now
another
liquor
license
on
the
site
that
has
no
limitation
for
sales
until
midnight
it
it
and
yet,
at
the
same
time,
we're
being
told
that
we
are
not
supposed
to
do
anything
on
the
patio
after
9
p.m.
J
The
the
fact
is
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
issuance
of
this,
by
the
way
the
liquor
license
was
issued
to
the
golf
association,
which
everyone
calls
canal
shores
and
canal
shores
is
now
going
to
be
managed
by
a
third-party
entity
called
kemper
management
and
yet
and
yet
we're
being
told,
we
can't
do
anything
after
nine
pm
outdoors
it.
J
It
seems
to
be
a
very
arbitrary
and
capricious
kind
of
distinction,
especially
since
the
zoning
decision
was
made
in
light
of
of
the
address
and
not
the
and
not
the
party
as
zoning
decisions
always
are
so
with
with
that
being
said,
the
fact
of
us
being
treated
differently
than
then
then.
First
of
all,
someone
in
the
same
building
using
the
same
patio
and
presumably
the
same
fire
pit
which
I'd
like
to
sit
around
on
occasion.
J
We
are
now
being
singled
out,
okay
and,
and
there
is
no
rational
basis
for
it.
During
the
entire
course
of
the
of
the
presence
of
post-42,
there
is
no
history
of
like
disorderly
conduct
violating
the
noise
ornament
ordinance.
None
of
that,
and
and
now
we're
being
told,
no
one
can
sell
after
9
p.m.
Everyone
has
to
go
home,
except
now,
there's
in
the
same
building
a
liquor
license
till
midnight.
J
It's
it's
it's
a
really
arbitrary
and
and
by
the
way
part
of
that
proposal,
I
must
add,
was
limiting
us
to
selling
only
to
members
and
guests.
That's
part
of
the
proposed
ordinance,
but
yet
I
don't
know
that
I'm
not
aware
of
any
such
distinction
to
the
liquor
license
till
midnight
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
us.
So
all
of
this
now
has
become
in,
in
my
view,
quite
an
arbitrary
and
capricious
distinction
that
only
penalizes
post
42
over
what
I'm
not
sure.
A
B
Yeah,
the
canal
shores
does
have
a
recently
or
it
was
issued
within.
I
think.
B
A
year
ago
a
new
liquor
class
was
created
for
the
golf
course
which
does
allow
for
the
sale
of
alcohol
from
9
a.m
to
midnight
monday
through
saturday
and
10
a.m
through
midnight
on
sunday,
and
I
know
that
they
are
on
the
in
the
same
area
as
to
the
specifics
of
canal
shores,
members
using
the
patio
and
the
fire
pit,
and
everything
like
that,
like
I
honestly
couldn't
speak
to
that,
but
I
know
they're
all
kind
of
co-sort
of
same
space
and
I
think
that
when
the
w-2
license
for
canal
shores
was
issued
initially,
I
think
it
was
issued
with
the
understanding
that
it
would
be
sort
of
a.
B
E
Mcgrath
yeah,
I
was
on
the
board
when
this
was
going
through
and
the
discussion
on
it
and
honestly
this
is
one
of
the
things
I
told
them.
What
are
you
opening
up
a
can
of
worms,
and
I
was
really
not
saying
doing
that
didn't
add
other
things.
The
american
legion
is
right
there.
Next
to
it,
is
it
then,
how
are
you
going
to
impose
the
different
restrictions
on
one
thing
when
you
let
one
be
really
pretty
lenient?
As
far
as
you
know,
liquor?
So
that's
my
comment.
E
He
said
I
remember
all
this
discussion
from
before
when
channeled
the
evanston
golf
course
wanted
to
do
this
stuff,
and
I
had
serious
questions
about
it.
Then
this
does
not
surprise
me
that
this
has
come
up
as
an
issue.
A
I
Yeah,
I
I
have
to
say
I
don't
recall
why
the
hours
are.
Maybe
they
were
mirroring
the
hours
of
the
legion,
but
also
the
the
language
in
the
ordinance
for
canal
shores,
talks
about
the
sale
being
limited
to
patrons,
implying
that
these
are
people
who
are
coming
there
to
play
golf.
So
it's
it's
not
quite
like
members
of
the
american
legion,
but
it's,
but
it's
not
envisioning
selling
alcohol
to
everybody.
I
yeah
I.
J
Real
issue
here
is
that
it
might
be
an
impermissible
transfer
of
an
economic
benefit,
because,
during
the
course
of
these
special
events,
you
know
evanson,
post
42's,
liquor
license
was
part
of
that
equation.
So
now
we're
taking
that
and
we're
shifting
it
to
another
interest,
and-
and
it
seems
to
me
that
other
than
that
sitting
around
the
fire
pit
at
9,
00
p.m
or
10
p.m.
J
It
it
doesn't
make
any
sense.
None
of
these
limitations
make
sense
any
longer
in
light
of
what
the
city
is
giving
to
somebody
else,
not
next
door,
not
down
the
line,
but
in
the
same
building
on
the
very
same
patio,
it
makes
no
sense,
and
also
too
we
were
just
told
members
and
guests.
Only
to
me
a
patron
is
a
customer.
A
patron
is
somebody
who
walks
up
to
the
window
and
says
give
me
a
beer,
okay,
I,
but
yet
we
were
told
it
has
to
be
membership.
A
This
seems
like
one
of
those
moments
where
I
remind
people
that
I
don't
have
a
law
degree.
Brian.
Do
you
have
any
reaction
to
that
that
that
point.
B
B
So
if
they
accept
you
know
members
of
different
nationally
chartered
veterans,
associations
and
as
members,
that's
fine
with
us,
the
city
doesn't
just
doesn't
want
it
to
be
a
general
place
where
people
from
you
know
the
city
or
or
will
met,
are
just
like
kind
of
going
up
there
and
just
you
know
being
being
patrons,
and
at
the
last
meeting
they
indicated
that
they
were
fine
with
the
language
in
the
in
the
proposed
ordinance
and.
A
J
That
is
all
absolutely
true.
That
is
only
absolutely
true.
However,
it
was
without
the
knowledge
that
there
was
another
license
in
the
same
building
that
had
no
such
limitations,
that
that
is
disturbing,
and,
and
so
that
is
why
I
woke
up
this
morning,
thinking
that
this
was
going
to
be
only
about
two
items
until
I
got
a
copy
of
the
liquor
ordinance,
and
now
it's
really
about
one.
It's
just
this
invidious
discrimination.
A
And
now
it's
just
a
one-second
council
member.
I
just
the
question
that
I
was
asking
brian
was
about
this.
I
believe
the
phrase
was
the
impermissible
transfer
of
a
benefit.
Is
that
the
phrase
you
utilized
this
idea
that
that
by
by
having
these
two
non-parallel
liquor
licenses
you're
kind
of
transferring
a
economic
right
from
the
legion
to
canal
shores
and
again
I'm
I'm
the
guy
who
didn't
go
to
law
school.
So
I'm
just
saying
words
here
with
the
sort
of
desperate
hope
that
some
of
them
make
sense.
A
J
B
Yes,
that,
by
limiting
the
by
limiting
the
sort
of
the
patrons
that
are
allowed
at
the
american
legion,
you
know
yeah
they're
going
to
go
somewhere
else
and
as
far
as
it
being
an
impermissible
economic
transfer.
I
I
don't
know
about
that.
I
What
the
I'm
looking
at
the
the
code
for
the
canal
shores
liquor
license,
and
it's
very
much
envisioned
that
actually,
the
people
purchasing
the
alcohol
will
be
taking
it
with
them
on
the
golf
course
that
they're,
because
it
says
that
the
beer,
wine
or
liquor
shall
be
sold
and
dispensed
either
in
original
packaging
for
beer
or
in
plastic
or
paper
containers
provided
by
the
licensee.
No,
no
glass
containers
whatsoever.
So
it's
really
the
the
vision
wasn't
that
it
was
going
to
be
in
competition
with
the
american
legion
sale
of
alcohol.
B
That
might
be
something
that
needs
to
be.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
that
might
be
something
needs
to
be
revisited.
B
It
was
the
ordinance
for
the
w-2
license
was
pretty
much
based
on
the
ordinance
for
the
class
w
license,
which
is
indoor
commercial
recreation
facilities,
and
you
know
there
are
a
couple
of
tweaks
made
to
it
just
to
make
it
a
little
more
unique
and
applicable
to
golf
courses,
but
the
hours
were
pretty
much
based
on
quad
indoor
sports,
the
the
holder
of
the
w
license,
and
you
know
like
if
there,
if
there's
tweaks,
that
need
to
be
made
to
the
canal
shores
license,
then
that
might
be
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
up
in
the
future.
J
If
I
may
I
this
is
I
I
would
hate
to
have
to
go
through
this
grind
again
to
address
something
we
can
do
now,
even
in
the
even
in
the
simplest
case,
saying
that
the
limitation
for
possession,
even
and
not
just
simply,
sales
on
the
patio
in
the
fire
pit
is
9
p.m.
It's
just
completely
without
basis
completely
and-
and
it
seems
to
me
that
it.
J
It
did
but
it's
they
started
off
at
nine
and
then
they
changed
it
to
ten.
But
it
seems
to
me:
wait
wait
a
minute.
It
should
be
10
o'clock
during
the
week
monday,
thursday
and
11
on
weekends,
because
that's
only
fair.
E
I
think
whatever
we
do,
those
two
things
are
in
the
same
location
and,
yes,
we
said
that
they
could.
You
know
the
golfers
could
buy
liquor
and
take
it
out,
they're
going
to
come
back,
sit
and
then
drink
after
the
game,
they're
not
going
to
just
do
it
on
the
course,
and
I
really
think
these
two
licenses
for
these
two
buildings
they're,
not.
I
think
they
need
to
be
the
same.
I
think
you
are
discriminating.
E
If
you,
you
know,
make
various
provisions
on
one
and
not
on
the
other,
because,
as
far
as
I
know,
the
evidence
that
golf
course
is
fairly
a
public
golf
course.
Isn't
it
yes,
so
that
means
you
do
not
have
to
be
a
member
of
whatever
club
to
use
it.
Am
I
wrong,
or
am
I
right
right.
E
Okay,
therefore,
like
I
said
I,
I
think
I
am
disturbed
when
we
make
little
inc
variances
for
particularly
businesses
which
are
operating
in
the
same
location.
I
really
think
for
this
and
this
situation.
E
A
I
agree
that
I
don't
think
it's
tenable
to
have
dramatically
different
rules
for
those
two
organizations.
I
just
think
it
it's
pretty
hard
to
justify.
Mr
hughes
had
his
hand
up
and
down
a
couple
of
times.
Do
you
want
to
jump
in.
D
D
H
A
A
Kind
of
the
point
right
right:
no
one's
saying,
you're
bad
guys.
What
there's
what
the
neighbors
are
saying
is
there's
just
having
outdoor
service
of
liquor
in
that
location.
Late
at
night
is
just
going
to
be
disruptive
and-
and
so
that's
the
tension
here
right
right.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
the
solution
isn't
just
just
follow
the
noise
ordinance,
because
that's
that's
not
getting
the
job
done
for
the
neighbors
and
there
is
a
there
is
a
real,
a
real
concern,
and
so
this
is
an
effort
to
find
a
different
solution.
E
A
J
J
Okay,
so
what
we
were
trying
to
do
in
one
sense
is
to
is
to
parallel,
what's
permissible
indoors,
certainly
not
seeking
to
permit
disruption
or
or
to
excuse
it,
but
rather
to
say
if
someone
buys
a
beer
and
it's
10
o'clock
and
they're
sitting
by
the
fire
pit,
they're,
not
hurting
anyone
and,
and
and
that's
really
what
this
is
about.
Okay-
and
this
is
why
we
felt
it
was
unfair.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think
just
confusing
the
one
other
part
that
we
were
looking
at
was
what
what
is
allowable
at
other
outdoor
drinking
establishments
throughout
the
city
of
evanston
that
have
outdoor
patios
that
are
surrounded.
I
mean
immediately
directly.
Next
to
residential
property
is
11
o'clock
at
night.
D
You
know
sale
and
consumption,
so
I
mean
to
to,
and
I
think
what
happened
was
that
when
we
got
when
we
finally
saw
this
liquor
license
from
canal
shores
and
the
day
after
our
meeting
we
found
out
the
canal
shores
was
also
moving
towards
using
this
third-party
management
company.
That
was
going
to
change
kind
of
the
you
know
the
overall
and
and
originally
was
proposed
that
our
liquor
license
should
be
changed
to
only
be
able
to
serve
to
guests
and
that
we
shouldn't
be
able
to
consume
or
possess
alcohol
after
9
p.m.
E
D
Like
an
extreme
extreme
overreach
to
a
better
organization
that
serves
the
community,
you
know
that's
that
was
kind
of
our
again
it
last.
We
did
have
a
conversation
and
again,
we've
been
here
to
kind
of
talk
through
and
come
to
whatever
you
know,
understanding
that
needs
to
be
in
the
the
final
result,
but
a
lot
of
those
two
things
are
fairly
major
points
that
we
found
out
only
in
the
last
couple
of
days
and
and
that's
why
we
have
kind
of
changed
our
position.
A
So
so,
commissioner
mcbeth,
I
think,
has
been
really
clear
about
her
preference
that
we
have
whatever
the
solution.
Is
that
it's
parallel
between
the
two
organizations,
commissioner
phillips
you've
been
pretty
quiet?
Do
you
have
what's
what?
What
are
you
thinking
at
this
moment.
F
Well,
I
I
agree
with
marion.
Frankly
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
having
having
that's
a
disparity
that
we
need
to
address.
Somehow
I
don't
like
it,
and
I
guess
I
actually
have
a
question
earlier
and
I
don't
remember
who
brought
this
up.
It
might
have
been
council
member
revell,
but
someone
alluded
to
a
zoning
issue
that
the
the
property
of
the
legion
is
not
zoned
for
a
standard
restaurant
license.
F
Something
to
that
effect,
and
I
just
wanted
to-
or
maybe
brian
had
mentioned
that
could
I
get
a
little
clarification
on
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
that
correctly.
I
I
think
I
was
the
one
who
mentioned
it.
We
did
do
a
zoning
analysis
and
the
property
is
in
a
zoning
district.
That's
it's
zoned
for
as
an
open
space
district,
and
so
restaurants
are
not
a
permitted
use
or
even
a
special
use
in
a
open
space
district.
I
The
legion,
of
course,
has
been
their
predates
our
zoning
codes,
so
zoning
ordinance,
and
so
it's
a
pre-existing,
non-conforming
use,
and
so
it
may
continue
as
a
membership
organization,
etc,
and
so
what
we're
now
dealing
with
is
saying
that,
basically,
you
know
for
the
last
couple
of
years,
since
we
changed
the
liquor
code
for
the
legion,
it
was
functioning
more
as
a
restaurant,
rather
than
as
as
it
has
been
historically
as
a
a
place
for
members
of
the
legion
and
their
guests
to
socialize.
I
So
I
have,
I
have
to
say,
I'm
I'm
personally
comfortable,
changing
the
hours
to
11
p.m,
on
fridays
and
saturdays
and
and
then
going
back
to
canal
shores
and
amending
their
liquor
whatever
code,
whatever
code
they're
under,
I
think
it's
as
brian
mentioned,
I
think
yeah
the
reason
that
the
hours
are
the
way
they
are
which
clearly
don't
make.
Any
sense
is
because
it
was
a
new
liquor,
a
new
class
w
and
we
were
just
mimicking
the
other
class
w
license.
So
I
think
we
do
need
to
revise
that.
F
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
clarification
yeah.
I
I
guess
and
thank
you
for
the
the
background
on
that,
but
yeah
I'm
with
marion
on
this,
and
I
guess
I
would
just
caution
that
if
we're,
if
we
are
planning
on
doing
something
about
the
golf
course
license,
you
know
we
I
I
worry
that
we
if
we
can
forge
some
kind
of
compromise
with
the
with
the
legion
now
and
then
we
talk
to
the
golf
course
later
and
they're
like
well
wait
a
second.
You
know
you
didn't
know
about
x,
y
and
z.
I
D
I
would
you
know
I
would
just
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
just
important
to
recognize
that
even
bring
in
a
company
like
kemper
who
to
generate
enough
revenue
to
man.
Of
course,
it
will
rely
on
special
events
of
some
kind,
whether
it's
a
birthday
party,
or
you
know
that
is
just
that.
That
is
how
these
golf
courses
operate
and-
and
we
are
just
so-
you
know
mean
we
are
we're-
we're
collaborators
with
canal
shores,
we're
we're
super
in
favor
of
them
succeeding,
figuring
out
ways
for
them
to
economically
thrive.
D
This
program
that
we
have
on
the
patio
is
a
is
a
collaboration
between
canal
shores
and
the
american
legion,
and
we've
been
working
together
for
the
last
few
years
on
this.
So
I
guess
I
just
what
we're
and
again
we
we
recognize
what
you
said
daniel
about
you
know
the
neighbors
and
the
effect
it
has
on
the
neighbors,
and
we
we
certainly
don't.
D
We
are
trying
to
come
up
with
some
type
of
you
know,
resolution
that
feels
reasonable
compared
to
what
other
businesses
manage
in
in
the
city
of
evanston,
but
but
also,
you
know,
kind
of
limiting
back
to.
As
greg
was
saying
the
idea
of
adding
you
know
this,
you
know
a
little
requirement
back
to
members
and
guests.
It
just
adds
a
separate
burden
to
the
legion
and
it,
and
it
does
then
only
allow
the
golf
course
to
serve
the
general
public.
D
You
know
people
if
you
go
to
other
golf
courses
that
have
grills
and
patios
anybody
can
walk
up
off
the
street
and
buy
a
drink
and
sit
on
the
patio
and
there's
no
restriction
to
that.
So
I
think
if
we
can
come
up
with,
I
think
the
golf
course
is
also
again:
we've
talked
with
them.
You
know
that
they
recognize
there's
a
lot
of
change
for
everybody,
so
we're
all
anyway
we're
just
we're.
We
are
ready
to
compromise,
but
but
to
a
level
that
is
reasonable,
for
you
know,
for
for
the
whole
area,.
A
A
E
Yeah
yeah,
no,
I
think
you're
right.
I
think
in
this
case
we
would
be
creating
more
problems
if
we
try
to
without
canal
shores,
knowing
what
we're
doing
change
the
existing
license.
That
is,
though,
it
would
affect
him.
I
think
everybody
needs
to
come
to
the
table,
talk
about
it
and
make
it
one
whatever
so
that
we
don't
get
into
those
type
of
problems.
I
One
more
point:
the
reason
we're
kind
of
on
this
timeline
is
because
the
legion
every
you
know
it
has
a
license
that
it
has
to
renew
and
its
renewal
date
is
coming
up
in
february
20th
or
something
so
we
were
trying
to
get
the
amendment
taken
care
of
before
the
renewal
of
the
license.
A
One
option
is
to
try
to
amend
it
on
the
fly
right
now,
based
on
these
discussions
to
come
up
with
our
best
guess
of
where
this
might
land
also,
I
would
argue
with
the
understanding
that
we
better
then
have
some
pretty
serious
conversations
before
anything
shows
up
at
city
council
and
the
third
option
is
just
to
hold
it,
which,
frankly,
if
it
weren't
for
the
timeline,
I
think
would
pretty
clearly
be
the
best
option,
but
I
think,
given
what
councilmember
revell
just
said,
just
sort
of
holding
it
all
together,
maybe
a
maybe
problematic
as
well,
because
you
know
it
sounds
like
if
the
date
that
you
indicated
is
correct.
A
A
So
I
mean
we're
on
a
tight
timeline,
one
way
or
the
other,
because
three
weeks
from
today
we
need
to
have
a
final
vote
at
the
city
council.
So
I
guess
the
question
is
of
the
commissioners:
is:
are
you
given
that?
Then
your
choices
are
vote,
something
out
and
leave
the
negotiation
sort
of
for
for
the
city
council
and
their
representatives
essentially
or.
F
A
So
so
the
choices
would
be
either
voted
out
with
the
understanding
that
you
know
that
there'll
be
a
lot
of
discussion
before
it
shows
up
for
council,
but
it
still
shows
up
in
council
in
three
weeks
or
adjourn
schedule.
Another
meeting
really
soon
like
less
than
two
weeks
from
now,
with
the
expectation
that
these
negotiations
have
reached
a
point
of
some
form
of
resolution
by
them
and
those
are
our
two
choices
and
I
see
mr
hughes
wants
to
jump
in.
A
Let's,
let's
go
to
mr
hughes,
then
I'm
gonna,
then
I'm
gonna
ask
ty
and
marion
to
speak
to
whether
sort
of
how
they
would
prefer
to
move
forward.
D
G
D
My
question
was
just
my
question
is
why
it
is
that
we
are
trying
to
squeeze
this
in
in
three
weeks,
meaning
I
recognize
that
the
license
has
to
be
renewed.
You
know
the
the
renewal
date
is
coming
up,
but,
similarly
to
when
we
made
the
amendment
to
this
license
two
years
ago,
we
made
it
in
july.
D
Like
it
wasn't,
it
wasn't,
based
on
the
fact
that
it
was
on
the
renewable
date.
We
were
able
to
make
the
change
kind
of
mid-year
and-
and
we
I'm
just
wondering,
if
that's
important,
I
mean
you
know
that
we
are
not
able
just
renew
it
as
is
and
make
the
change
throughout,
or
is
that
just
not
a
possibility.
A
I
mean,
I
guess
I'll,
let
brian
that
I
would.
I
would
assume
the
issue
here,
is
that
if
you
know
it
seems
likely
that
or
at
least
plausible,
the
change
would
include
a
diminishment
of
some
of
the
rights
conferred
in
the
license,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that
seems
quite
different
than
expanding
the.
I
B
I'm
really
sorry,
but
mike
was
breaking
up
the
entire
time.
He
was
supposed.
A
To
really
hear
what
he
said,
mike's
question
was:
listen,
we've
amended
the
license
mid-year
in
the
past.
Why
is
it
essential
to
get
this
done
before
the
license
is
granted?
And
my
my
guess
of
an
answer
was
well.
It's
one
thing
to
expand
what
the
license
lets.
You
do
mid-year,
but
it's
a
different
thing
to
to
roll
back
some
of
what
the
license
allows
you
to
do.
B
J
Yeah,
yes,
is
it
possible
by
administrative
act
or
ordinance
to
merely
say,
extend
the
license
on
its
current
terms,
for
maybe
two
months,
so
it
could
be
worked
out
for
all
parties.
B
I
I
mean
that's
not
really
how
the
code
is
written.
You
know
like
they're
done
on
a
semi-annual
or
an
or
an
annual
basis.
B
A
Okay,
so
so
let
me
ask
commissioners
macbeth
and
phillips
what
their!
What
they're
thinking
about
this.
F
A
A
Discussions
that
need
to
happen-
and
I
I
think,
if
we,
if
we
wanna,
if
you
guys
wanna,
propose
an
amendment,
that's
like
your
best
guess
of
where
this
maybe
should
land.
I
think
that
might
be
that's
fine,
but
I
just
think
we
got
to
characterize
it
as
a
best
guess,
not
a
final
draft,
because
there's
those
conversations
I
think
with
canelo
shorts
that
have
to
occur.
There's
there's
I
just
I
personally,
don't
feel
ready
to
say
about
anything.
Okay,
this
is
it
private
and
stone.
A
We'll
have
to
vote
no,
we
can
just
sort
of
adjourn
and
go
home,
but
if
we
don't
vote,
if
we
don't
vote
something
out,
I
I
do
think
we
should
put
a
meeting
on
the
calendar
for
like
two
weeks
from
now
or
something
or
less
and
establish
that
as
the
establish
as
our
as
our
expectation
that
we'll
have
something
on
the
agenda
for
that
meeting
that
we'll
be
comfortable
voting
out.
That
may
not.
E
I
have
a
question
when
we
started
out
with
this
discussion.
We
were
talking
about
the
fact
that
the
original,
whatever
your
original
license,
was
it
was
changed
in
2010,
correct,
20,
2000,
yeah,
yeah
2020..
That's
what
I
meant
okay,
and
were
we
talking
at
the
beginning
to
go
back
to
the
way
it
was
before
2020,
which
is
more
restrictive
than
it
was
or
less
restrictive
than
it
was
in
2020.
I
Well,
the
the
there
are
two
things
that
we're
dealing
with.
I
think
in
this
proposed
change.
One
is
the
membership
issue
and
one
is
what
should
be
the
hours
so
in
2020
we
did
not
change
the
hours
we
left
it.
You
know
to
be
till
2
a.m,
because
that
was
what
the
legions
hours
were
for
the
it
for
their
indoor
up
upstairs
room.
I
So
we
all
the
only
thing
that
changed
in
2020
was
eliminating
the
membership
requirement
and
then
adjusting
the
the
fee
for
the
license
it
used
to
be,
and
so
what
we'll
be
doing
with
this
proposed
amendment
is
going
back
to
the
much
lower
fee
500
instead
of
2000
or
something
and
reinstating
the
membership
requirement
and
simultaneous,
and
then
the
newest,
the
new
element
is
the
hours
for
the
patio.
I
guess
my
and
I
know
I'm
not
on
the
board.
I
My
thought
would
be
if
the
if
the
commission
feels
that
11
pm
on
friday
and
saturday
would
be
a
good
solution
that
that
you
kind
of
agree
on
that,
and
then
that's
what
we
that's.
What
we
take
to
discuss
with
canal
shores,
rather
than
I
give
give
it
your
best
guess
now,
so
that
when
we
have
the
conversation
with
canal
shores,.
E
I
I
That's
the
only
thing
I'm
proposing
changing
from
what
you
received
in
your
packet
for
this
meeting
would
be
having
five
nights
a
week
or
10
p.m,
and
then
friday
saturday,
is
11
p.m
and
that
that
would
be
the
proposal
to
canal
shores
or
the
what
what
we
would
be
discussing
with
canal
shores,
with
the
idea
of
probably
being
that
they're,
we
should
be
amending
their
liquor
code,
their
micro
license
powers
to
match
that.
B
And
just
to
interject
briefly,
I
actually
received
an
email
from
somebody
at
canal
shores
asking
about
their
liquor
license
and
like
and
some
potential
plans
that
they
have
for
their
liquor
license
when
the
spring
season
starts.
So
he
wants
to
chat
this
week.
I'll
definitely
forward
that
email
to
the
to
the
liquor,
commissioner,
and
and
because,
in
anticipation
of
what
I
imagine
is
going
to
be
a
sort
of
long
conversation
with
him
and
and
yeah,
and
you
council
member,
reveal.
A
You
I
just
want
to
flag.
I
think
I
think
the
two
discrepancies
that
were
named
between
the
legion's
proposed
license
and
canal
shore's
license
were
the
hours
and
the
membership
issue,
so
I'm
personally
very
comfortable,
saying
10
on
weekdays,
11
on
weeknights.
Let's
propose
that
as
the
compromise
for
everybody,
but
then
we'll
still
have
to
resolve
the
membership
question
right.
A
Let's,
let
me
put
council
member
revell's
question
directly
to
the
commission.
I'll
say
it
again:
I'm
comfortable
with
her
proposal
10
for
weeknights
11
for
weekends,
as
the
as
the
sort
of
compromise
that
would
be
applied
equally
across
all
entities.
Is
that
okay,
with
both
of
you
as
well.
F
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
okay
with
it.
I
I
do
think,
depending
on
how
that
conversation
with
the
canal
shores,
people
goes,
you
know
it
could
be
interesting,
but
yeah.
I
I'm
okay
with
it.
A
A
You
know
I
mean-
maybe
we
perhaps
even
scheduled
today,
meaning
two
weeks
from
meeting
two
weeks
from
this
meeting,
so
11
a.m,
on
the
7th
of
february,
with
the
intent
of
being
able
at
that
time
to
pass
something
that
we
feel
a
level
of
comfort
with.
I
Right
and
so
are
you,
are
you
so
you're
not
going
to
vote
on
anything
for
the
legion?
At
this
point,.
A
That
one
of
the
commissioners
make
a
motion
to
table
this
item
to
february
7th
and
then
and
then
adjourn,
does
that?
Does
that
work,
councilmember,
yeah,
okay,
all
right!
Well,
would
someone
be
willing
to
make
that
motion
then.
G
F
F
Okay,
I'll
do
it.
I
move
that
we
table
this
discussion
of
the
proposed
amendment
to
february
7th.
A
Any
discussion
seeing
none
commissioner
phillips
moves
that
we
table
this
item
to
february
7th
commissioner
seconds
and
now
for
the
roll
call.
Commissioner
macbeth.
A
Mr
phillips
hi,
I
vote
I
as
well,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
with
three
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
this
item
is
tabled
and
will
be
will
appear
on
an
agenda
here.
Two
weeks
from
today,
thanks
everyone.
I
know
this
is
sort
of
unresolved
but
we'll
get
there,
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
input
and
and
thank.
A
Thank
you
and
with
that,
seeing
no
further
a
business
to
come
before
us.
The
january
24th
meeting
of
the
evanston
liquor
control
board
stands
adjourned
have
a
great
day.
Everybody.