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City of Evanston - Planning & Development Committee - 6/10/2013
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B
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All
those
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes,
please
say
aye
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item
p1
is
approval
of
sidewalk
cafe
for
Carmen's
pizza
at
1241,
Chicago
Avenue
move
approval!
Second!
Is
there
anyone
here?
Anyone
have
any
questions,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
all
right!
We'll
move
on
to
item
p2
approval
of
sidewalk
cafe
for
forever
yogurt
at
1739,
sherman
avenue.
This
is
an
item
for
action.
Approval.
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F
C
That's
good!
Okay.
Did
we
just
move
approval?
All
right?
Thank
you.
You're
all
are
just
moving
along
without
me
here.
Okay
item
number
p3
approval
of
the
sidewalk
Kevin
I've
moved
and
seconded
okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
right!
Thank
you.
Next
is
p3
approval
of
the
sidewalk
cafe
for
starbucks.
This
is
at
1734
sherman
avenue.
Second,.
F
C
C
C
At
this
clip
we're
going
to
be
done
in
about
two
minutes
item
p6.
This
is
a
ordinance
59
0
13,
granting
a
special
use
for
a
type
2
restaurant
at
749.
Chicago
Avenue
staff
recommends
adoption
of
this
ordinance,
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
a
type
2
restaurant
at
749,
chicago
avenue,
called
dollop
coffee
company
and
who's.
Your
mama
Pie
Company.
A
C
C
Amendment
indicates
that
this
is
coming
with
no
staff
recommendation.
Correct
staff
recommends
consideration
of
ordinance,
60
0
13
grounding
a
special
use
permit
for
the
operation
of
a
bed
and
breakfast
establishment
at
1622,
Forest
Avenue,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
recommends
denial
of
this
request
at
resurrection.
Evanston
Preservation
Commission
recommends
approval
of
the
special
use,
and
now
did
I
hear
that
we
have
move
approval
second
discussion.
H
Moreno
manager
of
planning
and
zoning,
the
application
as
chairman
when
described,
is
a
application
for
a
special
use
for
bed
and
breakfast
at
1622
forest
avenue.
The
Preservation
Commission
has
recommended
approval.
The
special
use,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
has
recommended
denial
site
planet
appearance
review,
recommended
approval.
Staff
findings
were
that
the
application
does
meet
the
standards
for
a
special
use.
The
hearings
were
extensive
at
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
many
people
testified
and
there
was
fairly
broad
based
in
detailed
discussion
by
the
zoning
board
as
well.
H
D
H
The
preservation,
Commission's
role
is
to
make
a
recommendation
to
Council
about
specialty,
basically
related
to
special
uses
in
historic
districts.
They
do
not
have
the
same
details
standards
that
they
follow
for
this.
That
CBA
does
those
standards
are
in
your
packet,
the
principal
role,
the
Preservation
Commission,
is
to
consider
whether
or
not
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
improvements
to
landmarks.
In
this
case,
it's
the
landmark
itself.
H
The
large
house,
as
well
as
the
coach
house,
which
is
to
be
demolished
in
a
new
coach
house,
bill,
the
preservation
commission
granted
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
both
projects.
If
you
will
the
two
related
projects,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
has
several
standards
that
it
looks
at.
If
you
look
at
page
3,
25
of
your
packet
you'll
see
those
standards
there,
as
well
as
the
vote
of
the
committee,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
on
each
of
those
items,
the
Preservation
Commission
recommendation
was
a
broader
base.
H
G
Good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Andrew
Scott,
with
the
Law
Offices
of
dijkema
Gossett.
I
ham
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
patriot
park.
Llc.
All
of
our
team
members
are
here
with
us
as
well:
Paul
chanakya,
Paul,
Tiana,
key
architects,
who's,
the
project,
architect,
Mary
Lynn,
burger
of
Lynn,
burger,
&
Company,
our
valuation
consultant
Don
over
and
the
operator
of
the
proposed
bed,
and
breakfast
and
I
should
also
note
that
we
do
have
several
people
in
the
audience.
G
G
Fair
enough,
you
know,
rather
than
going
through
I
know,
you've
got
your
packets
and
have
seen
all
the
materials
that
were
for
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
spark
and
also
the
Preservation
Commission
I.
Think
there
are
a
few
key
points,
particularly
in
front
of
the
ZBA.
They
found
that
we
did
meet.
Seven
of
the
nine
standards
set
forth
in
the
municipal
code
for
a
special
use.
G
I
believe
that
the
two
key
issues
to
the
in
front
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
were
first,
whether
or
not
it
was
going
to
have
a
negative
cumulative
effect
on
the
surrounding
properties.
Due
to
the
fact
that
proximity
of
another
zoning
I'm-
sorry
another
bed
and
breakfast
at
300
church
street,
and
then
there
was
also
some
question
about
whether
or
not
it
was
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city,
as
well
as
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
itself.
I
think
with
respect
to
the
latter
issue.
G
In
addition,
I
think
that
in
your
staff
report,
they
also
talked
about
how
this
particular
project
and
the
rehabilitation
of
the
home
meets
the
purposes
and
goals
of
your
comprehensive
plan.
I
think
that,
where
there's
a
little
bit
of
deviation
is
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
was
the
intent
of
the
bed-and-breakfast
ordinance
when
it
was
passed
back
in
nineteen.
Ninety
and
a
lot
of
people
have
said
you
know
there
was
absolutely
no
intent
that
a
bed-and-breakfast
would
be
been
owned
by
an
LLC.
G
There
certainly
wasn't
any
kind
of
intent
about
ownership
being
divided
up
among
multiple
people
and
I
think
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
and
I
think
that
your
corporation
council
has
agreed
with
this
in
a
pining
that
we
do
meet
the
ownership
criteria,
that
there
is
no
there's
nothing
to
divine
the
intent
of
bed
and
breakfast
ownership
back
in
nineteen.
Ninety
there's
no
legislative
history.
G
That's
here
able
to
look
to
it's
only
what
people
sort
of
imagined
in
their
mind,
what
met
it
might
have
happened
22
23
years
ago,
when
you
pass
this
particular
ordinance,
so
I
think
that's,
maybe
some
of
the
concern
that
was
before
the
ZBA.
But
but
in
fact
there
wasn't
any
evidence
presented
to
the
contrary
in
terms
of
the
intent
of
ownership
of
bed
and
breakfast
establishments.
G
I'm
going
to
have
Mary
talk,
come
up
and
talk
for
just
a
few
minutes
about
impacts
on
the
surrounding
property.
She
did
do
an
extensive
study
and
made
some
comparable
studies
of
impacts
of
comparable
uses
and
found
that
there
isn't
a
deleterious
impact,
but
rather
than
hearing
from
me,
I
thought
I
would
let
you
hear
from
the
expert
that
we
have
that
did
an
intensive
study
of
the
property
and
the
project.
I
should
also
note
there's
a
concern
last
time
around
about
congestion
and
how
this
is
going
to
affect
the
streets.
G
We
in
fact,
are
a
self-contained
project
in
terms
of
parking
there's
going
to
be
five
proposed:
guest
rooms
plus
the
owner
and
also
folks
living
in
the
Coach
House.
The
fact
the
matter
is,
the
coach
house
will
have
six
off
street
parking
spaces
available
for
guests
and
also
owners
when
they're
when
they're
the
vm
v
is
not
full
and
in
addition,
there
are
plenty
of
surface
parking
spaces
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
G
So
there
isn't
going
to
be
any
kind
of
impacts
of
congestion
of
traffic
of
taking
up
street
parking,
as
was
a
concern
before
I.
Think.
It's
also
important
to
note,
and
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
investment
here
is
substantial,
and
you
know
in
my
conversations
with
our
architect
one
of
the
key
things
that
you
get
to
in
a
house
like
this.
G
G
They
can
maintain
their
homes,
but
you
really
get
to
a
tipping
point
with
historical
structures
like
this,
where
you
need
to
do
substantial
work
to
the
foundation
to
underpin
it,
to
make
sure
that
it
can
handle
the
the
loads
of
modern-day
living
of
uses
and
variations
that
are
undertaken
in
a
property,
and
so
again
the
city
has
already
undertaken
an
effort
to
designate
this
as
a
historic
district
in
and
of
itself
recognizing
the
architecture
and
all
of
the
historical
uses.
And
again
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
the
city
itself
to
further
that
goal.
G
F
F
G
I'll,
be
quite
frank,
and
the
question
came
up
with
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
I.
You
can't
this
is
not
a
this.
Is
the
most
developers
look
at
projects
on
a
five-year
10-year
horizon?
That's
not
this!
This
is
you
know,
2025
years.
This
is
more
of
a
legacy
matter.
I
mean
first
of
all,
Colonel
Pritzker
has
a
sincere
interest
in
historic
preservation
and
I
believe
that
he
looks
at
this
as
something
that
he
will
pass
down
to
his
children
and
his
grandchildren
and
his
grandchildren.
So
it's
not
a
immediate
money-making
opportunity.
G
This
is
simply
a
this
is
a
it's
relatively
consistent,
I
think,
with
what
was
envisioned
with
b
and
b's
originally,
which
is
you've,
got
a
large
home.
The
kids
have
moved
out
of
the
house
and
you
need
some
cash
flow.
You
need
some
additional
income
to
help.
You
maintain
your
home.
This
is
sort
of
like
that
and
the
bed
and
breakfast
it's
not
meant
to
turn
a
profit
necessarily,
but
it's
a
means
to
provide
a
cash
flow
to
you'll
pay
in
part.
The
substantial
maintenance
I'm,
sorry,
the
rehabilitation,
but
really
it's
the
ongoing
maintenance.
G
It's
the
real
estate
taxes
and
again
this
is
very
comparable.
Colonel
Pritzker
is
doing
with
the
he's,
got
another
property,
the
email
back
house
in
the
city
of
Chicago,
and
we
recently
got
it
approved
for
a
it
mean
it's
undergoing
a
substantial
renovation
cost
several
million
dollars,
and
so
we
are
looking
to
use
it
as
a
vacation
rental,
again,
you're
not
going
to
pay
for
your
two
million
dollars
in
renovations,
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
clip
or
two
hundred
dollars
a
clip,
but
really
what
it
is.
J
J
Most
of
my
work
has
involves
the
value
impact.
I
do
praise
commercial
properties,
but
most
of
my
focus
is
the
value
impact
of
various
developments,
partial
takings.
All
sorts
of
things
like
when
I
doubt
widens
a
road.
Is
the
value
your
property
go
down
by
how
much
if
the
road
gets
closer
to
your
home
that
sort
of
issue?
So
in
this
regard,
this
sort
of
activity
is
very,
very
comparable
to
what
I
typically
do.
J
First
thing
I'd
say:
is
it's
hard
to
find
bed
and
breakfast
in
the
Chicago
area?
They're,
not
a
common
type
of
lodging
here.
Certainly
as
compared
with
the
coast
and
particularly
New
England,
but
surprisingly
enough,
there
are
a
fair
number
of
them
in
the
Chicago
area,
there's
sort
of
a
stealth
property
type.
You
don't
really
notice
them,
they
look
like
single-family
homes
and
they
effectively
function
like
single-family
homes,
but
I
did
identify
one
bed
and
breakfast
in
a
neighborhood
of
chicago,
but
I
thought
was
somewhat
telling
and
relevant
to
this
particular
property.
J
We're
talking
about
tonight.
It's
on
Cedar,
Street,
I,
don't
know
whether
you're
familiar
with
cedar.
It's
a
very
elegant
side
street
that
extends
West
from
lakeshore
drive
right
down
your
oak
street.
It's
probably
one
of
the
most
affluent
streets
in
the
city.
It's
largely
single-family.
There
are
a
few
multifamily
buildings
right
along
the
lakefront
and
some
a
little
further
west
identified
a
bed-and-breakfast
there
at
68
east
cedar.
It's
very
typical
of
the
housing
net
area.
It's
over
100
years
old.
It
looks
like
everything
else.
It
looks
like
a
luxury
single-family
home.
J
It
is
in
a
historic
district,
such
as
this
property
is,
and
the
surrounding
homes
are
similar
to
it.
In
age,
identified
two
homes
sold
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
This
property
one
was
across
the
street,
sold
in
two
thousand
743
point:
oh
I'm,
sorry,
it's
one!
It's
across
the
street
at
60,
90,
Cedars
sold
in
2007
for
2.5
million
dollars
and
then
the
home
immediately
west
of
this
bed
and
breakfast
immediately
adjacent
to
it.
J
Neither
of
them
could
identify
any
impact
at
all,
I
mean
the
basic
message
they
came
back
with
is
nobody
noticed
it
was
there
and
it's
not
easy
to
spot.
There's
a
small
plaque
on
the
property.
You'd
have
to
be
looking
forward
to
know
it
was
there
so
and
I
realize
that
there
is
only
two
data
points,
but
unfortunately,
there's
not
a
lot
of
information
to
work
with
on
bed
and
breakfast
in
the
Chicago
area.
J
There
just
aren't
that
many
of
them,
and
certainly
there
aren't
that
many
of
them
in
neighborhoods
that
are
analogous
to
the
the
neighborhood
we're
talking
about
here.
So
in
some
ways
I
felt
lucky
to
find
what
I
did.
Secondly,
I
know:
there's
a
there's
also
a
significant
concern
about
the
cumulative
impact
of
two
bed
and
breakfasts
in
such
close
proximity
and
I
have
I,
have
no
bed
and
breakfast
that
are
that
close
to
each
other
in
any
neighborhood.
That's
analogous
to
this.
J
What
were
the
dates
of
those
sales
on
Greenwood,
one
sale
on
Greenwood
was
105
Greenwood
sold
in
October
october,
two
thousand
twelve
for
600
72,000,
the
other
home
that
I
found
in
the
immediate
proximity
was
at
1022
Greenwood.
It
was
an
older
sale,
January
of
2008
for
a
million
550
and
I
real.
I
realized
that
date
is
not
perfect,
but
unfortunately
there's
there's
not
a
lot
to
work
with
I
have.
J
D
J
Probably
a
reason
for
that.
Well
I
mean,
I
guess
I
guess
my
issue
with
choosing
the
churches
is
that
they
do
a
couple
of
things.
They
generate
a
lot
of
vehicular
traffic
and
they
generate
pedestrian
traffic
and
they
are
not
per
se
homes.
So
I
mean
on
the
issue
of
traffic
and
appearance
and
use
their.
You
could
say,
possibly
that's
not
something
that
a
single-family
home
would
like
to
be
next
to,
but
seemingly
it
doesn't
have
any
impact
on
growver.
K
Thank
you,
ms
Lindberg,
you
answered
my
first
question
question,
which
was
why
churches
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
that
made
sense
to
use
churches
as
an
analogous
situation.
But
it
sounds
as
if
we
have
in
looking
trying
to
find
data
as
to
the
the
effect
of
a
special
use
bed
and
breakfast
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
like
you
said
it
really
doesn't
exist,
and,
and
the
bed
and
breakfast
at
300
church
may
help
us
understand
what
the
effect
is
of
bed
and
breakfast
and
its
surrounding
neighbors.
J
I
mean
I
think
to
really
you're
right
to
have
something
you
could
call
a
statistically
significant
in
terms
of
data.
We
can't
work
with
just
one.
You
know
one
comparable,
but
unfortunately
we're
sort
of
reduced
to
anecdotal
data
simply
because
we
don't
have
a
sufficient
database
of
bed
and
breakfast
in
this
market
area
to
talk
about.
L
G
A
couple
of
those
short
points
that
I
think
are
worth
noting
and
then
certainly
I'll
conclude,
as
ms
Limburger
mentioned
this
home
as
well.
Three
under
church
is
going
to
be
virtually
indistinguishable
from
the
outside
there's
going
to
be
no
special
signage,
it's
going
to
look
and
it's
going
to
function
just
like
a
single-family
home,
I,
think
also
sort
of
to
your
question.
Alderman
Grover,
on
the
point
about
you
know:
special
uses,
verse,
I'm,
sorry,
ottoman,
fist,
the
question
about
special
uses
versus
permitted
uses
in
1990.
G
The
city
council
made
a
legislative
decision
that
bed
and
breakfasts
were
a
compatible,
consistent
use
in
a
residential
district
granted
it's
subject
to
additional
standards,
but
it's
already
been
determined
that
it's
a
compatible
land
use.
As
long
as
you
look
at
these
other
particular
issues,
alderman.
D
Fisk
thanks
well,
a
special
use
is
a
special
use
because
it
may
have
a
negative
impact
on
a
neighborhood.
That's
the
reason
why
it's
a
special
use.
My
my
memory
is
that
when
you
were
speaking
on
the
purchase
of
300
church
street
or
the
application
for
300
church
street
at
cba,
there
was
a
in
response
to
a
question.
You
said
that
there
weren't
going
to
be
any
more
carnal
pritzker
was
not
going
to
be
applying
for
any
more
bees
and
bees
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
now
we're
here
a
year
later
with
another
application.
D
G
Had
negotiated
for
and
I
think
what,
when
we
were
before
the
ZBA
for
300
church
street,
we
had
expressed
an
interest
in
the
property.
We
pulled
title
on
the
property
and
discovered
that
title
was
such
a
mess,
that
it
would
be
almost
impossible
to
unravel
it.
So
again
the
testimony
was
truthful
back.
Then
we
weren't
under
contract
and
there
wasn't
an
intent
to
do
a
B&B
there.
Well.
D
My
concern
is
that
there's
a
concern
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
residential
neighborhood
that,
with
the
acquisition
of
these
future
homes,
that
just
like
you
said
for
any
future
purchase
after
300
church,
you
didn't
anticipate
any
more
babies
and
bees.
Now
what
what
assurance
can
you
give
to
the
neighborhood
other
than
your
statement
gear
tonight?.
D
D
Concerned
because
the
neighbors
are
concerned
and
the
neighbors
are
concerned,
because
they're
understanding
after
300
church
was
that
there
was
not
going
to
be
another
B&B
and
now
we're
here
talking
about
another
B&B
Colonel
Pritzker
has
acquired
more
property
since
that
time
and
I'm
asking
you
what
what
assurance
you
can
give
the
neighborhood
that
there
aren't
going
to
be
future
bees
and
these
in
the
houses
that
he
has
since
acquired.
What.
G
A
C
I
would
I
just
like
to
make
the
comment
that,
even
though
the
appearance
of
the
exterior
of
the
homes,
it
doesn't
change,
you
know
the
Preservation
Commission,
wouldn't
wouldn't
permit
it
to
look
like
a
commercial
business.
It
doesn't
mean
that
the
function
isn't
different,
and
so
that
does
have
some
I
think
it
does
have
some
potential
negative
impact.
C
Then,
because
people
know
that
they
aren't
living
next
adjust
to
the
facade
they're
going
to
be
living
next
to
what's
what
the
function
of
the
of
the
structure
next
to
them,
so
that
you
know
I,
you
don't
have
to
respond
that.
That
was
just
my
that's
my
comment
that
I
don't
NESN.
The
zoning
ordinance
is
not
just
appearance
its
function
as
well.
So,
even
though
it
may
look
just
like
a
single-family
home,
it
doesn't
function
the
same
well.
G
And
I
guess
I
would
like
to
comment
on
that
because
I
don't
think
it's
in
your
packet.
It
wasn't
expressed
in
the
record,
but
when
the
former
homeowner
was
there,
there
were
I
believe
after
discussions
with
him
14
people
living
on
that
property.
There
was
him
and
his
wife,
his
children,
a
mother-in-law
to
live
in
housekeepers.
Are
you
know,
folks
that
you
know
that
worked
for
them
and
then
there
was
also
a
couple
and
their
dogs
that
lived
in
the
Coach
House
behind
and
I
understand
my
you.
C
Know
it's
still:
it's
still
a
family
unit,
it's
different
than
guests
coming
every
night.
Thank
you.
Let's
go
on
to
our.
Do
you
have
anything
more
represent?
Okay,
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
our
Comment
citizen
comment.
I
can
tell
you
all
that
there
are
a
lot
of
you
signed
up.
Some
of
you
may
have
signed
up
on
this
pink
sheet,
not
recognizing
that
it.
It
meant
that
you
wanted
to
speak
tonight.
G
Madame
sheriff
I
might
to
try
to
abbreviate
the
number
of
names
that
you
have
there.
We
could
limit
our
supporters
recognizing
that
we
didn't
want
to
ticket
of
comments
this
evening,
to
you
know
maybe
five
to
six
people
and
that
would
I
think
adequately
expressed
the
view
of
the
number
of
supporters
that
we
have
here.
So
if
it
pleases
the
chair,
that
may
be
a
way
to
proceed
to.
A
C
C
E
Hopefully,
I
can
alleviate
some
of
your
fears
and
we
have
known
Colonel
Pritzker
for
over
15
years
and
we
own
our
home
and
partnership
with
Hillman
1629
Judson
Avenue.
We
have
two
small
boys
and
we
send
them
to
the
like
evidence
of
Evanston
school
system
and
we
do
live
directly
behind
1622
forest
and
we
have
no
objection
of
that
home
being
used
as
a
special
or
with
the
request
of
the
special
use
permit.
We
do
believe
that
this
will
help
restore
evanston
and
help
provide
increase.
E
The
edit,
oh
I'm,
sorry
add
value
to
the
surrounding
properties
that
will
hopefully
increase
the
economic
benefit
to
the
community
of
Evanston.
They
have
been
at
some
blurry
neighbors.
Can
you
speak
more
into
the
mic?
Yes,
they
have
been
at
slim
flurry
neighbors,
and
we
really
appreciate
their
friendship.
I
can't
say
enough
great
things
about
the
two
of
them.
N
I'm
chair
members
of
the
committee
city
manager,
Bob
quits,
my
name
is
Jan
halperin
and
I
am
director
of
development
at
the
Evanston
History
Center.
We
are
located
in
the
National
Historic
Landmark
charles
gates,
dawes
house,
at
225,
greenwood
street
in
Evanston,
I'm
speaking,
obviously,
to
the
bed
and
breakfast
ordinance.
Our
interest
in
the
project
is
threefold:
first,
the
value
it
brings
to
the
community
through
arts,
history
and
education;
second,
the
economic
benefit
to
the
city
of
Evanston
through
heritage
tourism
and
third,
to
recognize
the
philanthropic
commitment
of
Colonel
Pritzker
to
Evanston.
N
The
first
reason
is
the
significance
of
the
house
itself.
According
to
the
Evanston
index,
which
we
have
in
our
library
from
August
eighteenth
1883,
the
residence
of
mr.
CH
remy
at
1622
forest
place
is
among
the
many
beautiful
homes
being
built
in
Evanston.
The
location
is
one
of
the
most
desirable
along
the
shore.
The
view
of
the
lake
is
very
fine.
N
The
article
goes
on
to
go
through
the
house
room
by
room
and
give
an
exact
detail
of
all
the
furnishings
and
fixtures
in
the
house,
including
the
fact
that
the
kitchen
had
hot
and
cold
running
water,
which
was
of
significance
in
1883.
It's
a
wonderful
example
of
a
19th
century
home
on
a
very
grand
scale.
The
second
reason
we
support
this
is
the
economic
benefit
bed-and-breakfast
in
historic
districts
bring
to
evanston
cultural
heritage.
Tourism
is
on
the
rise
in
the
United
States
increasing
about
five
percent
per
year.
N
People
come
not
just
to
stay
in
Evanston,
but
because
they're
seeking
experiences
that
are
distinctive
and
not
homogenized,
not
every
community
can
have
a
successful
cultural
heritage.
Tourism
program
we're
very
fortunate
that
preservation
is
a
part
of
evanston's
history
and
we
welcome
the
opportunity
to
partner
with
historic
bed
and
breakfast
and
open
our
doors
to
their
guests.
Finally,
we
commend
the
owner
Colonel
Pritzker,
who
has
demonstrated
support
of
the
community
in
many
areas,
including
the
arts,
preservation
activities
for
children
and
educating
the
public
on
the
lives
of
famous
Evanston,
the
colonel
challenges.
N
O
Good
evening
I'm
Ryan
kettle
camp,
I
reside
at
11
26
Brummel
street
here
in
evanston
in
the
great
8th,
ward
and
I'm,
also
a
business
owner
with
my
wife,
kettle
camp
and
kettle
camp
landscape
architecture
located
at
1315
Sherman
place.
I'll
also
disclose
that
I
am
the
landscape,
architect,
who's
been
hired
to
work
on
this
project
and
I'm
excited
for
the
prospect
to
one
day
be
able
to
have
on
the
evanston
garden,
walk
some
spectacular
gardens
associated
with
this
project.
O
It's
kind
of
strange
for
me
to
want
to
talk
about
the
concept
of
trickle-down
economics,
but
in
all
honesty
you
have
to
acknowledge
that
it
has
some
impact.
The
commitment
that
these
people,
particularly
Colonel
Pritzker,
has
made
to
our
local
economy
before
the
project
is
even
completely
off
the
ground
in
terms
of
hiring
local
talent
to
back
them
up
on
this
project
and
to
deliver
a
quality
project.
O
Over
and
above
that,
as
an
evidence
and
resident,
I
would
also
love
to
be
able
to
have
my
mother-in-law
from
Louisiana
who's
quite
used
to
staying
in
bed
and
breakfast
stay
in
a
place
like
this
she's
from
near
a
small
town
near
Natchitoches,
Louisiana
and
the
town.
The
large
significant
component
of
the
town's
economy
is
based
on
tourism
and
the
town.
Many
fine
old
homes,
our
bed
and
breakfast
many
are
in
proximity
to
one
another,
and
it
has
no
detrimental
impact
on
the
town
or
on
surrounding
property
values.
O
That
I
can
see
anecdote
I
acknowledged,
but
when
she
comes
to
town,
I
would
love
to
have
her.
Have
the
option
of
staying
at
a
place
like
this,
and
you
can
say
yes,
she
can
stay
at
stone
porch,
but
what?
If
they're,
booked
up
and
I
just
wanted
to
have
this
option?
And
a
week
ago
my
wife
and
I
celebrated
our
20th
anniversary
and
I
would
have
loved
to
have
had
a
facility
like
this
to
treat
my
wife
to
unique
experience.
O
P
C
P
C
A
C
Q
C
Q
Q
Q
And
just
briefly,
just
as
speak
that
Don
over
it
and
Carl
Pritzker
have
been
very
generous
as
they
come
to
the
community
and
supporting
voice.
Hope,
girls
hope.
So
I
guess
it's
more
to
say:
I
guess
the
expectation
would
be
as
business
owners
in
the
community
that
they
would
continue
to
do.
That
and
I
know
they've
been
generous
with
other
nonprofits
as
well,
so
I
guess
as
someone
who
works
for
the
nonprofit
in
the
area,
we're
very
appreciative
of
their
generosity.
Thank.
C
R
L
Even
my
name
is
Paul
Jannicke
I'm,
the
architect
with
Paul
janneke
architects,
who
will
be
working
on
this
project
has
been
working
on
this
project
and
I'm
also
a
neighbor
I'd
live
about
two
blocks
away
from
this
bed-and-breakfast
and
I.
Just
want
to
quickly
say
that
while
I
was
touring,
East
Coast,
overpriced
college
campuses.
L
With
my
two
sons,
we
stayed
in
a
lot
of
bed
and
breakfast
and
everywhere
we
went,
there
were
beautiful
historic
districts
with
butyl,
he
made
beautifully
maintained
houses
in
and
there
were
bed
and
breakfast
and
there
were
bed
and
breakfasts
almost
next
to
each
other.
Several
on
the
same
block,
Dartmouth
Cornell
Princeton,
you
name
these
beautiful,
beautiful
American
cities
that
are
as
beautiful
as
Evanston.
L
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
king
garlic.
I
live
at
1608
forest
place.
It
is
two
doors
south
from
the
proposed
based
bed
and
breakfast
and
I'm
a
strong
supporter
with
my
husband.
My
husband
resides
at
our
place
for
about
close
to
60
years.
I
live
in
our
house
for
about
20
as
an
architect
and
CEO
of
art.
Studio,
incorporated,
I,
understand
the
value
of
historical
preservation
and
restoration,
thanks
to
my
European
background
and
training
in
a
field
of
preservation,
as
well
as
the
experience
gained
while
working
on
some
landmarks,
landmark
residences
in
evanston.
S
I
know
how
extensive
time-consuming
and
costly
the
whole
process
can
be.
It
is
worth
but
requires
super
contractors
and
craftsmanship
and
a
great
deal
of
founding.
We
see
alarming
the
radiation
of
beautiful
historic
residences
with
large
size
homes
are
no
longer
a
hot
sellers
on
the
real
estate
market.
As
we
know
it,
United
States
is
very
young
country,
at
least
by
European
standards.
S
This
is
why
preservation
of
historic
buildings
makes
even
more
sense
than
every
everywhere
else.
Thanks
to
Colin
L
Pritzker,
his
great
experience
in
preservation,
combined
with
passion
about
history
and
financial
abilities,
some
historic
homes
can
be
brought
to
life
again.
Thank
you
Thank,
You
Kent,.
C
T
Good
evening
my
name
is
ken
swanson
and
I
live
at
1630,
Judson,
Avenue,
real
estate,
developer
and
investor,
so
I'm
think
I'm
fairly
qualified
to
discuss
the
real
estate
issues
involved
here,
I'm
also,
roughly
equidistant
from
the
two
bed
and
breakfast
the
existing
one
and
the
proposed
facility
I'm
been
a
strong
proponent
from
from
the
beginning
of
these
historic
renovations
for
a
number
of
reasons.
The
economic
development
benefits,
historic
preservation
benefits
the
maintenance
of
home
values
and
what
I
believe
is
a
low
impact
on
neighbors
I.
T
My
perspective
of
the
impact
on
me,
but
I'd
like
to
use
my
remarks
to
rebut
a
couple
of
the
arguments
against
the
b
and
b's
first,
some
are
concerned
about
disturbing
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
your
home
in
an
ro1
district.
From
my
perspective,
there
is
no
possible
way.
I
could
notice
a
change
in
the
traffic
and
an
activity
level
in
the
specific
neighborhood
that
we're
talking
about
it's
the
lakefront
park
system.
Is
it's
very
active
you're
right?
T
What
you
know
what
your
the
downtown
is
immediately
to
the
west
of
you,
so
you
have
huge
traffic
flows
down
Church
and
Davis.
You
have
significant
activity
from
the
from
the
you
know
from
the
University
moving,
so
it
is
a
very
active
neighborhood.
This
will
have
no
impact
on
the
relative
activity
level
in
our
neighborhood.
T
Secondly,
people
have
expressed
concerns
about
the
home
values
in
the
vicinity
of
B
&
Bs
I
would
agree
with
some
of
the
evidence
from
from
other
communities
that
doesn't
seem
to
have
an
impact,
but
I
would
like
to
report
that
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
our
of
my
house
and
the
Envy's
b
and
b's
we've
had
two
homes
sell
in
less
than
30
days
for
prices
that
were
very
substantial
and
even
above
their
asking
prices,
one
sold
in
two
weeks,
so
there
seems
to
be.
You
know
this.
T
The
one
B&B
is
approved
and
the
other
one
is
under
discussion
and
people
are
not
making
having
any
trouble,
making
a
commitment
and
moving
quickly
to
expensive
real
estate.
Third,
this
is
an
investment.
Isn't
it's
an
unsubsidized
economic
development,
Colonel
Chris
Cruz
at
actions
make
other
bastards
pay
attention.
As
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
people,
evanston
contractors,
restaurant
tours
suppliers
and
eventually
employees
as
well,
are
going
to
be
directly
and
benefiting
from
these
investments
in
these
B
&
Bs
and
real
estate
taxes,
hotel
taxes
will
also
be
paid.
T
Lastly,
I've
heard
that
some
are
concerned
about
not
about
Colonel
Pritzker's
ownership,
but
what
happens
after
Colonel
Pritzker's
of
ownership
and,
frankly,
my
perspective
on
that.
Is
you
make
that
decision
when
the
time
comes,
and
you
could
have
a
hearing
like
this
and
if
you
like
the
person,
that's
going
to
take
it
over
fine
and
if
you
don't,
then
you
reject
it
at
that
time.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
M
Basically,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
came
and
they
looked
at
a
number
of
standards,
and
they
said
it
did
not
meet
all
standards
to
then
go
back
to
the
City
Council,
who
approved
the
previous
bed
and
breakfast
after
a
denial
by
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
You
know
seems
to
me
we're
setting
up
to
do
the
exact
same
thing
over
again,
and
that
concerns
me.
The
second
thing
is
that
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance-
yes,
I
was
not
there
when
the
zoning
ordinance
was
first
written
but
reading
it.
M
It
certainly
implies
that
what
was
what
people
envisioned
by
a
bed
and
breakfast
was
mon
pas
own?
A
big
house
they've
got
kids,
the
kids
move
out,
they
need
to
somehow
keep
the
property,
and
so
what
they
do,
is
they
open
up
as
a
bed
and
breakfast
to
me
that
sounds
reasonable.
This
is
a
commercial
venture,
plain
and
simple:
it
is
I.
M
Don't
I,
don't
see
how
anyone
could
deny
that,
because
of
fact
that
it's
now
see
it's
all
both
of
these
bed
breakfasts
are
essentially
owned
by
the
same
person
the
same
entity
as
far
as
property
values.
I'm
not
concerned
about
my
property
value
I'm
far
enough
away
and
I,
don't
think
my
property
value
would
be
negatively
affected.
M
Does
that
diminish
the
number
of
people
who
would
qualify
or
even
want
to
move
in
I?
Just
can't
see
it,
I
mean
if
I
were
looking
for
a
large
home.
Would
I
want
to
move
next
door
to
what
is
essentially
a
mini
hotel
on
one
side
and
a
mini
hotel
on
the
other
side?
I'm,
not
sure
I
would
anecdotal
sure,
but
I
can't
find
no
one
else
can
find
any
evidence
either.
So
it's
I
think
there's
a
real
concern
there.
M
I've
been
looking
through
the
city
code
and
I
can't
really
find,
and
I'm
hoping
that
someone
could
clarify
for
me,
but
it
appears
from
the
code
that
a
bed
and
breakfast
because
it's
less
than
10
units
and
not
technically
a
hotel,
is
not
does
not
have
to
pay
room
taxes
or
hotel
taxes.
To
me,
that
is
not
really
good
thing
for
the
economy
of
evanston.
I
think,
if
you
I
mean
call
it
a
hotel,
it's
a
hotel.
They
both
are.
That's
all
I'd
like
to
say
thank.
U
Hello,
Jean,
lindwall,
625
library,
place
I
live
fairly
far
away
from
the
proposed
being
bees,
but
my
concern
is
that
I
think
it's
very
important
from
a
public
policy
position
to
really
seriously
take
into
consideration.
The
recommendation
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
were
to
deny
this
special
use.
U
I
was
when
it
first
looked
at
the
packet
on
on
friday
and
then
even
the
clarification
of
the
agenda
item
this
morning,
I
was
really
troubled
by
having
a
situation
where
not
only
did
the
ZBA
deny
the
special
use,
but
you're
sitting
there
with
a
staff
recommendation
saying
that
it
should
be
adopted
and
you've
got
an
ordinance.
That
was
not
something
that
the
CBA
recommended
and
that's
sitting
before
you
so
I
I
have
a
real
problem
with.
U
In
this
case,
the
kindest
thing
I
could
say,
is
staff
/
reached
and
overstepped
and
I
I
think
that
that's
really
troubling
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
most
residents
look
to
is
is
that
there
is
some
our
boards
and
commissions
of
Planning
Commission
in
the
CBA
and
the
City
Council.
Take
our
zoning
ordinance,
the
plant
comprehensive
plan,
the
lakefront
master
plan
and
and
the
like
seriously,
and
you
know
I
hope
that
you
really
will
consider
the
recommendation
of
the
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
I.
V
V
And
at
that
time
we
were
very
concerned
that
there
were
some
bed
and
breakfast
already
in
town.
We
knew
about
it
and
we
really
thought
that
they
ought
to
be
licensed
and
therefore
we
are.
They
ought
to
be
recognized
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
because
we
had
in
mind
people
as
Chris
mentioned,
who,
when
their
children
left
for
college
or
when
their
children
simply
moved
out,
might
have
some
extra
room
and
also
might
have
trouble
paying
the
higher
and
higher
taxes
we
were
paying
in
evanston
for
living
in
large
houses.
V
And
so
we
thought
that
this
would
be
a
way
for
them
to,
on
a
temporary
basis,
be
a
bed-and-breakfast
and
we
had
nobody
thought
of
an
LLC,
and
maybe
we
should
have
done
I
mean
there
were
lawyers
on
the
on
the
committee,
and
nobody
mentioned
it.
But
my
real
purpose
for
being
here
tonight
is
to
say
that
I
live
in
the
same
historic
district,
that
the
two
houses
are
in
that
are
proposed
as
bed-and-breakfast
one
already
confirmed
as
a
bed
and
breakfast
I
live
two
blocks
away
and
you
know
tight.
V
I
live
at
17,
11
hinman.
That
means
I'm
on
the
odd
side
of
the
street,
the
east
side
of
the
street,
so
our
houses
face
West,
they
don't
face
the
lake,
they
don't
have
a
park
in
front
of
them
and
yet
two
of
them
sold
this
summer,
one
of
them
sold
after
being
on
the
market
for
four
days
and
sold
above
the
market
price
or
I'm.
Sorry,
above
the
asking
price,
the
other
one
was
never
on
the
market.
They
has
sign
up
saying
coming
soon
and
before
soon
arrived,
that
house
sold
now.
V
One
of
the
people
who
testified
earlier
said
that
it's
hard
to
sell
these
houses.
Well,
they
didn't
know
and
seem
to
have
any
trouble,
selling
them
and
I
think
these
houses
would
have
sold
to
not
not
the
second
one.
The
one
we're
talking
about
now
was
kind
of
tied
up
and
legal
matters,
but
once
that
was
taken
care
of
I'm
sure
that
could
have
been
sold.
I
hope
that
my
house
was
so
too
I
mean
if
it
sells
in
four
days.
V
V
Don't
think
this
is
a
protection
I
think
I'm
worried
not
about
my
my
block
because
as
I
say,
we
don't
face
the
lake
and
there's
no
park
in
front,
but
there's
a
house
behind
us
that
phases
the
lake
and
it's
very
large
and
has
a
lot
of
parking
and
and
pretty
soon
there
may
be
another
bed
and
breakfast
behind
me
and
I
really
think
it
would
change
my
neighborhood
a
lot
and
I've
been
there
a
long
time
and
the
house
has
been
there
since
1896
I'd
like
to
keep
it
that
way.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you.
My
name
is
David
Reynolds.
I
live
at
204
davis
street,
I'm
a
close
neighbor
of
1622
forest
place.
I'm
here
this
evening
to
ask
that
you
follow
the
advice
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
deny
the
special
use
request
for
a
B&B
at
16.
20
24
s
place
in
their
questioning
and
deliberations.
Eba
understood
that
to
be
n
bees
in
such
close
proximity
would
not
comply
with
standards.
See
of
the
special
use
requirements
and
standards
see
states.
I
It
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
That's
a
whole
lot
of
whole
lot
of
information,
but
it
basically
boils
down
to
that.
I
Another
special
use
will
not
have
a
negative
effect
on
the
neighborhood
to
b
and
b's
two
doors
apart
in
a
residential
neighborhood
will
certainly
have
a
negative
cumulative
effect.
They
will
commercialize
one
end
of
that
block
and
preclude
families.
The
normal
occupants
of
a
residential
zone
from
building
the
fabric
of
a
neighborhood.
I
There
is
a
telling
point
about
standard
C,
as
you
remember,
after
the
City
Council
approved
the
special
use
at
300
Church
Street.
The
plan
commission
spent
months
evaluating
the
B&B
ordinance
in
order
to
recommend
a
City
Council
how
to
resolve
the
issues
of
ownership,
density
of
B,
&,
Bs
and
frequency
of
special
events.
Among
other
things.
I
It
is
my
view.
The
two
b
and
b's
two
doors
away
from
one
another
in
a
residential
neighborhood
will
have
a
negative
cumulative
effect
from
a
residence
point
of
view
and,
contrary
to
mr.
Scott's
assertion
in
earlier
hearings
that
the
cumulative
effect
of
to
be
mb's
may
actually
be
positive.
Common
sense
says
otherwise.
A
B&B
is
a
commercial
use
in
a
residential
zone.
Our
zoning
ordinance
places
restrictions
on
businesses
and
residential
zones
through
the
home
occupation
section.
I
I
Home
occupations
are
rather
tightly
regulated
because
they
have
the
ability
to
interfere
with
normal
living
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
A
B&B
under
our
existing
ordinance.
Our
existing
home
occupation
ordinance
wouldn't
come
close
to
complying
with
the
rules
which
require
no
clients
between
9pm
and
7am.
The
area
of
the
home
used
for
business
purposes
not
to
exceed
25
percent
of
the
total,
a
maximum
of
two
non-resident
employees,
a
maximum
of
six
Alliance
at
any
one
time,
a
maximum
of
three
deliveries
per
week.
I
An
additional
problem
is
the
business
structure
when
b
and
b's
were
added
to
our
zoning
ordinances,
special
use
in
1993.
The
intent
was
to
allow
a
family
with
grown
children
to
rent
a
few
extra
rooms
to
help
defray
the
cost
of
their
home,
and
we
know
that
because
mary
singh
was
there
and
was
part
of
the
committee
that
that
wrote
the
ordinance
the
business
operations
here
are
entirely
different
and
go
beyond
anything.
The
zoning
ordinance
ever
envisioned.
I
I
Pardon
me
taking
a
common-sense
approach.
Imagine
that
you
own
the
beautiful,
carefully
restored,
yellow
Victorian
house
between
mr.
Pritzker's
to
be
envies.
Do
you
think
the
value
of
your
home
would
not
be
diminished
by
having
a
B&B
rather
than
a
family,
on
either
side
of
you,
unless,
of
course,
it
ultimately
comes
one
more
of
mr.
Pritzker's
being
bees.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
P
P
C
P
Did
well
I
didn't
have
a
choice.
My
parents
moved
so
I
am
a
restoration
architect.
I
was
responsible
for
many
of
the
primary
restorations
of
buildings
like
the
rook
rebuilding
the
reliance
building.
That's
now
the
hotel
Burnham
we
just
finished
the
Sullivan
Center
and
I
am
working
for
Colonel
Pritzker
on
the
back
house
on
sheridan
road
I'm.
Here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
his
commitment
to
the
idea
of
preservation.
P
The
question
was
asked:
why
would
someone
invest
that
kind
of
money
and
a
bed
and
breakfast
that's,
never
going
to
pay
him
back,
and
the
answer
is
because
he
sees
the
value
of
the
heritage,
value
of
a
property
like
that
and
giving
something
back
to
the
community.
We
have
the
similar
situation
with
the
bog
house
and
people
scratch
their
heads,
and
the
reality
is
is
that
he
believes
in
the
idea
of
creating
something
for
someone
beyond
himself
to
look
at
the
community
around
him.
P
It
was
also
mentioned
about
the
collateral
improvements
or
the
benefits
that
people
get
from
working
on
these
projects
and
I
think
that
any
community
evanston
Chicago
or
wherever
would
be
greatly
enhanced
and
would
be
very
lucky
to
have
someone
like
Colonel
Pritzker.
That's
willing
to
make
that
kind
of
a
commitment
to
that
to
the
community
in
which
he
is
finding
himself
with
his
investments.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
C
G
G
D
K
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
point
out,
as
one
of
our
speakers
did,
that
there
there
is
indeed
additional
legislative
history
since
1993,
and
that
was
our
consideration
of
significant
amendments
to
the
bed
and
breakfast
ordinance.
When
was
that
in
just
late
last
year
in
which
we
did
consider
cumulative
effect
and
buffer
and
ownership
criteria
and
the
City
Council
did
not
agree
that
at
that
point
for
different
reasons,
I
can't
discern
what
each
of
our
individual
reasons
were
for
rejecting
those
amendments
to
the
bed-and-breakfast
ordinance.
K
But
I
think
that
stands
as
part
of
the
legislative
history,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
understand
that
that
at
some
point
we
all
made
this
decision
of
a
no
vote.
It's
hard
to
discern
meaning
out
of
a
no
vote
on
those
amendments.
But
we
did
at
that
point
decide
not
to
amend
our
bed
and
breakfast
ordinance.
K
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
apparently
in
a
4-2
vote,
determined
that
this
granting
the
special
use
permit
was
not
going
to
diminish
the
value
of
the
neighboring
properties
under
standard
d,
and
that
was
a
four
to
vote.
And
so
the
ZBA
is
instructive
to
us
in
that
way
as
well.
The
two
standards
where
they
were
our
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
K
How
used
is
their
vote
to
the
to
the
two
standards
that
were
not
met
in
this
special
use?
Permit
where
the
cumulative
effect
in
keeping
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
both
of
which,
like
all
the
other
standards
I,
think,
are
very
subjective.
The
City
Council
retains
authority
to
make
determinations
based
upon
that
criteria
or
other
criteria.
Those
standards
or
others
and
I
can't
help.
K
But
look
at
the
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
in
our
preservation
commission
and
consider
their
expertise
and
consider
those
recommendations
as
what
they
are
recommendations
by
our
professionals,
appointed
professionals
and
as
but
for
me.
At
this
point.
I
think
that
the
arguments
are
pretty
persuasive,
that
another
bed
and
breakfast
at
1622
forest
is
not
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
property
values
in
the
neighborhood.
K
I
don't
think
it
will
change
the
the
traffic
the
use,
the
the
activity
in
the
neighborhood
in
a
way
that
most
will
notice
much
less
mind
and
and
that
bigger
picture
I
think
a
bed
and
breakfast
establishment
it's
important
to
add
that
additional
type
of
accommodation
to
evanston's
landscape
hotel.
And
how
would
you
call
it
the
hospitality
landscape
in
evanston?
So
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
the
pending
motion
and,
yes,
I
hope,
on
a
subsequent
motion,
to
send
up
a
special
use
permit
to
the
city
council,
Thank,
You,
alderman,
rainy,.
C
R
The
the
hearing
was
very
interesting
and
I
that
this
is
simply
a
personal
opinion,
but
I
believe
had
there
been
present
at
that
hearing
and
testifying
neighbors
or
supporters
of
the
second
bed
and
breakfast
that
the
Commission
vote
would
have
been
different
and
it
went
to
the
issue
of
cumulative
effect,
the
closeness,
the
proximity
of
one
to
the
other
and
that
there
were
no
people
there.
Speaking
in
support
of
it,
I
thought
made
a
huge
difference
and
several
commented.
Several
members
of
the
board
commented
on
it.
R
I
want
to
say
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
that
we
cannot
pick
and
choose
when
we
give
credence
to
the
Preservation
Commission
any
other
time.
If
the
Preservation
Commission
voted
six
to
nothing
on
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
on
the
special
use
we
we
would
be
acknowledging
that
that
was
an
important
vote
and
we
can't
say
I,
don't
believe
in
this
case.
Well,
the
the
criteria
is
lessened
and
we
recognize
them
and
I
I
thought.
F
F
Want
to
acknowledge
to
I
guess,
to
concerns
that
people
have
about
the
about
the
proposal.
The
first
is,
and
they
really
both
go
to
the
cumulative
effect
aspect,
but
some
neighbors
are
concerned.
Some
people
in
the
neighborhood,
I
should
say,
are
concerned
about
the
possibility
of
there
being
not
just
to
what
they're
being
four
or
five
filling
up
the
block,
something
along
those
lines,
and
I
think,
given
the
context,
it's
legitimate
for
people
to
have
that
concern
my
impression
when
we
proved
the
first
one
was
that
there
was
going
to
be
one
and.
F
That's
not
the
case
so
now
there
are
two
and
I
understand
how
people
would
be
concerned
that
there
might
be
more
somewhere
down
the
road.
The
other
aspect
is
with
regard
to
I'll
call
it
other
businesses.
It's
apparent
that
for
all
of
the
good
and
great
aspects
of
this
restoration
preservation,
it
is
a
business
and
it's
a
business.
That's
going
to
be
competing
with
other
businesses
who,
in
order
to
continue
that
their
existence
have
to
make
a
profit.
F
So
a
couple
of
bed
and
breakfasts
probably
aren't
going
to
put
them
out
of
business,
but
if
we
had
a
block
of
four
five,
six
or
seven
in
a
row,
that
would
not
only
change
the
character
the
neighborhood,
but
it
would
also
probably
adversely
impact
the
businesses
and
the
people
who
are
in
the
business
to
make
a
profit.
And
it's
it's
clear
that
this
isn't
for
that
purpose.
But
I
understand
that
those
those
businesses
have
reservations
about
how
it's
going
to
impact
them
and
that's
a
fair
concern.
D
Alderman
Fisk.
Thank
you.
There
are
a
number
of
problems
that
I
have
with
this
application
I
to
set
through
both
of
the
meetings,
and
one
of
my
concerns
was
that,
when
pressed
by
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
that
the
the
resident
owner
when
asked,
why
are
you
continuing
to
acquire
more
property
referred
to
land,
banking
and
land
banking
in
an
r1
single-family
neighborhood
is
a
fairly
serious
concern
for
the
neighbors
and
I
think
justifies
justifies
their
level
of
caution
in
approaching
a
project
like
this.
D
This
neighborhood
is
barely
two
blocks
wide.
The
beach
and
park
across
the
way
is
barely
a
half
a
block
wide.
It's
a
fairly
it's
close
to
downtown.
We
saw
in
our
discussions
on
a
lakefront
proposal
that
maybe
a
corridor
between
downtown
to
the
lake
was
something
that
the
city
should
consider
in
the
future.
I
don't
agree
with
that,
but
I
see
that
this
is
possible
to
help
possibly
the
plan
that
may
be
in
place.
I,
don't
know
any
other
way
to
explain
what
that
phrase.
Land
banking
means.
D
D
D
No
one
is
questioning
the
fact
that
he
may
use
evanston
business
owners
but
I'm
sure
if
that
house
or
any
other
house
in
the
neighborhood
had
workers
at
their
house.
They
would
also
be
evanston
business
owners,
so
I,
don't
think
that
that's
a
that's
a
fair
accolade
to
give
to
him,
as
opposed
to
the
other
neighbors
I,
do
agree
with
the
ZBA
that
it
will
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect,
I
think
to
commercial
uses
in
a
block
that
is
I.
D
D
I
value
the
the
taxes
that
the
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
pay
I
value
the
taxes
that
carnal
pritzker
pays
putting
5.5
million
dollars
into
a
house
that
you've
bought
for
over
two
million
dollars
is
going
to
result
in
a
house
that
is
unreachable.
Should
Colonel
Pritzker
decide
in
future
to
sell
it
to
a
single
family?
It's
it's
creating
an
artificial
environment.
D
That's
not
supportive
of
a
single
family,
residential
district
and
I.
Think,
as
I
said,
I
think
we've
reached
that
tipping
point
on
this
block.
We
did
ask
the
council
for
a
distance
requirement
between
bees
and
bees
before
at
that
time.
There
was
just
one
and
we
didn't
know
that
there
was
going
to
be
another
now
there's
another
and,
as
I
said
previously,
he
owns
four
houses
on
this
block.
A
fifth
house
just
a
few
blocks
away,
all
of
them
right
right
on
the
lakefront.
D
B
Well,
I'll
be
voting
to
move
it
on
the
council.
I
am
I,
since
none
of
us
are
in
the
fortune-telling
business
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
know
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
other
homes
that
are
bought
and
and
I
I
know,
sometimes
things
change
and
they
could
be
the
other
properties
there.
That
could
be
brought
up
by
someone
else
and
they
could
want
a
bread
and
breakfast
and
still
have
to
come
before
four
special
you.
B
B
R
Oliver
and
rainy,
and
to
comment
on
are
not
supporting
the
decision
of
zba
zba
is
a
recommending
body
on
this
matter
and
we
have
the
authority
to
overrule
them.
It
is
not
an
outrageous
stance
to
take
to
not
agree
with
the
ZBA.
The
ZBA
is
a
recommending
body
here
and
I
appreciate
all
their
work,
and
they
did
a
very
thorough
job
discussing
this,
but
we
do
not
have
to
agree
with
them,
so
it
is
not
a
fault
of
the
council
to
not
support
zba.
R
C
You
seeing
no
one
lights
I
as
chair.
I
will
take
a
moment
for
my
comments.
I
do
support
the
decision
of
the
CBA
I
believe
that
special
uses
that
was
the
first
activity
I,
was
ever
involved
with
in
front
of
this
council.
As
a
private
citizen,
you
have
to
meet
all
nine.
You
just
can't
pick
and
choose
and
say
you
met
for
reading,
meet
seven
and
you
don't
that's
good
I.
Think
that's
excellent,
but
it's
not
far
enough.
C
I
do
agree
with
the
CBA
on
this
one
I
think
to
b
and
b's
one
house
apart
is
too
dense.
It
turns
the
block
fifty
percent
commercial
there.
There
is
a
family
that
lives
between
these
two
I
know
them,
and
you
know
I
think
it
takes
away
the
opportunity
for
them
to
have
what
most
of
us
who
buy
a
house
in
a
neighborhood
hope
for
another
family
living
next
door.
So
I
can't
support
it.
I
do
appreciate
Colonel
Pritzker
and
his
superb
commitment
to
press
vation.
C
Many
of
us
in
evanston
share
that
commitment
and
his
commitment
to
evanston
merchants.
Many
of
us
share
that
commitment
as
well,
but
I
I
don't
support
this
B&B
I.
I
believe
it
is
another
commercial
operation.
It
isn't
as
I
think.
A
merry
Singh
has
said.
The
original
intent
was
of
the
B&B
I
I
recognize
that
the
council
debated
this
about
having
a
distance
requirement.
I
I
wish
that
that
had
prevailed.
I
do
think
that
we
have
to
be
cautious
about
the
next
one.
That
comes
because
at
some
point
this
block
could
potentially
be
fifty
percent.
C
The
entire
block
and
I
do.
I
do
want
to
make
a
comment
about,
and
it's
been
folks
have
provided
excellent
information
tonight
about
this.
There
was
a
member
of
the
cba
who
commented
that
these
large
houses
are
so
difficult
for
people
to
maintain
these
days,
they're
being
snapped
up
right
now
we
don't
need
not.
Every
house
in
evanston
meets
everybody's
price
point,
but
these
large
houses
are
being
snapped
up
by
single
family
by
single
families
and
they
are
being
beautifully
restored.
C
We
have
someone
who
took
a
house
that
was
in
terrible
disrepair
on
sheridan
road
and
has
poured
a
small
fortune
into
it,
has
created
a
beach
and
it's
a
single
family
with
a
small
child
and
they
will
be
living
there
for
years.
So
I
think
this
idea
that
these
big
houses
are
are
too
difficult
to
maintain
is
absolutely
untrue.
C
We
see
now,
over
and
over
again
go
on
the
Mother's
Day
house
walk
there
gorgeous
and
people
really
are
as
committed
as
Colonel
Pritzker,
and
they
do
have
the
resources,
maybe
not
quite
as
much
of
the
resources,
but
they
do
have
the
resources
and
they
do
buy
these
houses.
So
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
is
not
an
argument.
I
think
that
holds
water,
alderman
rainy.
W
You
it's
my
mic,
I
think
it.
You
know
with
regard
to
the
property,
values
and
and
appreciation
of
values
of
property.
The
I
know
in
my
ward,
a
lot
of
bigger
homes,
really
beautiful
and
some
historic
homes
are
selling
very
quickly,
but
they're,
also
selling
very
low
I
think
they're
well
below
what
their
value
is.
Certainly
extremely
lives
really
less
than
the
actual
purchase
price
or
what
it
was.
Maybe
in
two
thousand
eight.
So
I
think
that
I.
W
I
don't
see
any
way
this,
you
know
we're
selling
this
property
at
a
as
a
premium
and
putting
money
into
it.
I
don't
think,
does
anything
but
actually
reassure
that
property
values
will
stay
up.
You
know
this
under
bidding
under
you
know,
devaluation
of
the
cost
and
in
some
way
of
it.
That
way.
Actually
concerns
me.
I
think
that's
it,
so
it
doesn't
do
much
in
terms
of
people
selling
is
looking
for
comps
and
things
like
that.
W
C
I
think
that
what's
happening
is
the
market
is
finding
itself
now.
You
know
after
the
recession,
when
nothing
sold
for
several
years,
because
everyone
wasn't
sure
what
about
what
the
value
was.
I
think
looking
back
at
2008
that
isn't
the
2013
value
anymore.
Nobody
I
mean
the
market
produces
its
own
price.