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A
A
Okay
good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
meeting
the
planning
and
development
committee
meeting
of
Monday
March
27th,
let's
see
we'll
take
if
you
would
call
the
roll.
Thank
you.
D
B
A
Maybe
not,
he
is
he's:
okay,
okay,
so
we're
counting
him
present.
Okay,
okay,
great
okay!
Can
would
someone
like
to
move
the
minutes?
Approval
of
the
minutes.
D
A
Great,
the
minutes
have
been
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor,
aye
aye,
no
objections.
Okay,
the
minute
minutes
have
been
approved.
Do
we?
We
have
a
couple
of
public
comments.
I
believe
we
do.
Okay.
Are
they
online.
B
They
are
online.
Is
there
one
yeah
I've
got
this.
E
E
A
C
A
D
G
H
A
good
evening,
my
name
is
Alan
diddish
I'm,
the
general
counsel.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
do
you
want
to
do
you
want
to
just
wait
and
hear
comments
and
respond
to
questions
or.
I
H
We
have
a
very
short
presentation
and
it
is
very
short-
and
it's
just
basically
to
reiterate
a
few
of
the
points
that
Miss
klotz
made
in
her
memorandum
and
the
subject.
Property
sits
on
a
property,
that's
bounded
by
Oak
Avenue
on
the
West
Maple
Avenue
on
the
East
and
Grove
Street
on
the
south
and
the
building
was
previously
operated
as
the
king
home.
It
was
run
by
the
Presbyterian
Homes
of
Chicago
of
Evanston
and
bch
1555
purchased
the
property
in
2017
and
ever
since
then
the
property
has
been
vacant.
H
Unfeasible,
so
we
began
to
look
for
other
potential
uses
and
determine
that
an
apartment
hotel
might
be
the
perfect
match
for
this
particular
property.
The
building
itself
currently
has
67
units
and
the
units
each
have
living
in
sleeping
quarters,
bathrooms
and
kitchenettes.
Now
the
kitchenettes
are
currently
without
stoves.
If
and
when
a
special
use
is
granted,
we
will
add
stoves
to
the
kitchenette
so
that
all
the
units
can
be
deemed
dwelling
units
within
the
meaning
of
the
zoning
code.
H
Now,
with
respect
to
the
special
use
analysis,
a
section
6-18-3
of
the
zoning
code
defines
an
apartment
hotel
as
follows,
and
I
quote
a
hotel
with
dwelling
units
in
which
all
accommodations
are
provided
in
dwelling
units
and
in
which
at
least
25
percent
of
the
guest
rooms
are
for
occupancy
by
transient
guest,
close
quote
parsing.
The
code's
definition
yields
two
separate
requirements
as
I
see
it
for
an
apartment
Hotel.
First,
the
code
requires
that
quote:
all
accommodations
are
provided
in
dwelling
units.
H
All
the
accommodations
will
in
fact
be
a
common
dwelling
units
once
we
add
stoves
to
the
kitchenettes.
Second,
the
code
does
require
that
at
least
25
percent
of
the
guest
rooms
are
for
occupancy
by
transient
guests.
We
propose
that
up
to
100
percent
of
the
guest
rooms
will
be
used
for
transient
guests
and
therefore
we
satisfy
the
second
requirement
for
an
apartment,
hotel,
parenthetically
and
is
also
noted
by
Miss
klotz
in
her
memorandum.
H
While
the
code
does
set
a
minimum
number
on
transient
guests,
it
does
not
set
a
maximum
number
on
the
number
of
such
guests
in
some.
Therefore,
we
believe
that
when
the
dwelling
units
are
brought
up
with
the
kitchenettes,
we
believe
that
the
definition
will
be
met
and
that
we
will
have
an
apartment
Hotel.
Now,
it's
my
understanding.
You've
got
a
number
of
questions
about
this,
a
huge
number
of
questions
and
by
the
way
there
was
some
an
operating
agreement,
we
haven't
presented
an
operating
agreement,
because
simply
we
don't
know
what
one
is.
H
J
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
it's
so
if
I
understand
what
you've
just
said,
you're
actually
not
looking
at
necessarily
as
running
this
as
an
apartment
hotel,
which
would
be
partially
transient
and
partially
permanent,
but
you
said
you're
planning
to
run
this
with
as
a
hundred
percent
transient
and
to
me
that's
a
hotel
and
hotels
are
not
permitted
in
this
zoning
District,
so
I.
J
You
know
I
recognize
that
the
code
may
allow
that,
but
I
think
the
the
spirit
of
our
of
our
code
is
that
we
have
certain
designated
areas
for
hotels,
and
this
is
a
designated
area
to
be
an
apartment.
Hotel,
so
I
have
I
have
concerns
about
that.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
address
them,
I'd
like
to
hear
a
response.
I
What
they
call
it
like
a
unit
kitchen
bathroom,
a
hotel,
does
don't
want
the
the
hotel
only
has
a
hotel
room
and
hotel
in
the
code
say
that
you
have
a
hotel
apartment.
Hotel,
you
have
to
have
a
unit.
You
have
to
have
a
full
apartment
which
has
a
living
quarter,
sleeping
quarter
and
kitchen
full
kitchen.
Hotels
do
not
require
that.
That's
why
we
qualify
to
be
a
partner
Hotel,
not
a
hotel,
but.
J
I
H
That's
what
Matt
Rogers
had
suggested
before
the
land
use
commission.
He
basically
said
he
was
going
to
see
to
it
that
the
code
was
Rewritten.
J
So
I
I
have
additional
questions.
So
what
is
your
experience
in
running
a
hotel.
I
I
ran
a
hotel
before,
but
I
am
a
businessman.
A
very
successful
businessman
and
I
have
ran
over
5
000
unit
commercial
office.
Everything
I
have
I,
have
no
experience
running
Hotel
a
museum
and
I
open
across
the
street.
The
museum
is
one
of
the
most
successful
Museum
in
the
world,
so
I
will
and
we
are,
we
are
going
to
get
a
license
from
Wyndham
hotel,
which
we
will
we
will.
We
will
comply
with
all
their
requirements
to
to
join
them.
J
I
Windham
has
they
just
sent
this
they'll
be
a
lot
of
requirement:
the
appearance
in
the
building
from
outside
the
lobby,
the
the
Staffing,
the
the
rooms,
how
the
room
look,
how
the
flooring
they
have
a
lot
of
requirement
for
us
to
meet
their
their
the
the
requirement.
J
So
would
it
be
Windham
Windham
employees
who
would
be
running
like
the
general
manager
of
the
reservations,
desk
and
and
I.
I
I
And
we
just
don't
run
hotel,
we
build
everything
from.
We
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
all
management
aspects
of
real
estate,
we're
the
best
in
town
for
what
we
do
and
I
I
running
a
hotel
is
is
nothing
the
booking
will
be
done
through
their
booking
system
working,
but
having
cleaning
staff
and
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
front
desk
and
thing
like
this.
The.
H
Other
thing
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
Windham
is
putting
their
name
on
this,
so
they
will
be
constantly
monitoring
our
performance
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
jury
their
name.
If
you
will,
they
will
be
coming
in
with
their
testers
and
so
forth
to
make
sure
that
we
comply
with
all
their
requirements.
I
F
Systems,
okay,
and,
and
is
there
a
reason
why
you
want
to
be
a
hundred
percent
up
to
100
transient
guests
and
as
opposed
to
a
mix
of
transient
and
long-term
guests.
I
Because
we
we're
really
gonna
set
the
the
the
building
is
set
as
a
not
as
an
apartment.
Building
we
have
a
restaurant,
we
have
amenities,
we
have
meeting
rooms,
it
fits
more
than
apartment,
hotels
than
an
apartment,
and
we
do
not
want
to.
We
have
five
thousand
yen
we
have
in
in
town.
We
have
Apartments
all
over
the
place.
Here.
We
have
buildings
in
in
Davis
who
have
buildings
in
the
University.
We
are
really
looking
for
to
run
an
apartment
hotel
and
we
read
the
code
and
we
complied
with
every.
F
F
Mean
I
do
think.
My
understanding
of
an
apartment
hotel
is
a
is
a
desire,
would
be
a
desirable
addition
to
our
range
of
accommodations
in
the
community,
but
I'm
I'm
troubled
by
the
fact.
If
it's
a
hundred
percent
transient,
then
you
know
that
it
would
be
a
hotel
as.
K
H
I
H
The
original
makeup
of
the
building
was
for
independent
living
and
Senior
care
Living,
so
the
units
are
all
quite
small.
F
It'd
be
interesting
to
know
what,
back
in
the
day
when
we
had
the
homestead,
what
which
had
a
good
percent
of
those
rooms
were
for
a
long
time,
residents
and
I
wonder
what
the
mix
was
then
no,
no,
the
Homestead
hotel,
Von
Hinman,
hasn't
hasn't
been
there
for
a
few
years
now,
but
they
had
many.
A
large
number
of
those
units
were
for
a
long
time,
residents,
I,
I,
guess
I
had
one
little
funny
question
for
staff,
and
this
was
looking
at
the
memo
and
on
page
12
in
the
next
to
last
paragraph.
F
It
says
all
all
67.
C
F
Will
have
stoves
added
to
the
kitchenettes
that
already
feature
a
sink
refrigerator,
blah
blah
blah
the
parking
requirement,
inclusionary
housing
requirement,
hotel
tax
and
possibly
zoning
use
hinge
on
the
amount
of
transient
versus
permanent
guests.
So
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
phrase
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
meant
in
that
in
that
sentence.
L
Thank
you,
Liz
Williams,
Planning
and
Zoning
manager.
What
is
intended
by
the
inclusionary
housing
if
they
are
intended
to
be
permanent
Apartments
and
they
would
in
essence,
need
to
meet
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
requirement
that
a
certain
percentage
be
dedicated
to
meeting
the
income
requirements
of
that
ordinance.
I
You
this
whole
block
of
vacant
land
parking
will
never
have
problems,
we're
in
parking
to
the
YMCA
we're
in
50
spots.
We
rent
parking
to
all
the
office
building
in
the
area
that
when
they
have
things
like
this,
and
we
have
parking
for
the
museum,
we
met
everything
Paul
I'm,
sorry
I
said
that
the
parking
will
never
have
any
problem
with
plenty
of
parking.
The
building
to
meet
apartment,
Hotel,
not
apartment
hotel.
We
have
plenty
of
parking.
C
I
We
have
the
land
from
Oak
to
all
the
way
to
I.
Don't
have
huge,
Garden,
beautiful
garden.
F
A
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
I
I
think
this
is
our
first
application
under
the
new
licensing
program.
So
so
I
can
completely
sympathize
with
your.
You
know,
having
to
try
and
figure
out
the
operating
agreement
and
I
think
we
should
all
be
aware
that
a
special
use
permit
can
be
issued
with
conditions
and
I
would
say,
I
feel
that
it
would
be
very
important
to
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
strictly
approve
or
disapprove.
I
would
like
to
see
us
consider.
A
You
know
a
condition
that
the
permit
is
good
if
the
city
and
the
applicant
arrive
at
an
operating
agreement
so
that
we're
looking
at
that
because
I
think
so
much
is
going
to
be
in
that
so
I.
Even
though
I
know
we
may
not
do
that
this
evening
or
want
to
move
on
that.
D
L
I
could
Madam
chair
that
is
currently
a
suggested
condition
of
approval
with
this
project
that
they
would
have
to
enter
into
that
shared
housing
provider
license
and
have
an
operating
agreement
approved.
D
I
think
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
are
being
raised
this
evening
would
be
negotiated
and
sorted
out
and
recorded
in
the
operating
agreement,
and
those
would
include
perhaps
some
guidelines
on
the
percentage
of
transient
versus
long-term
guests.
So
just
a
question
to
the
applicant,
knowing
that,
if
it's
all
long
term,
then
an
inclusionary,
a
heart,
ordinance,
occlusionary
housing,
ordinance
May
apply
if
it's
all
short-term,
it's
kind
of
a
hotel.
D
If
it's
somewhere
in
the
middle,
it
can
be
an
apartment,
hotel
and
I
mean
I
would
support
what
council
member
Revell
said.
I
think
an
apartment,
Hotel
properly
managed
can
be
a
real
amenity
to
this
community
and
much
like
the
homestead
was
prior
to
it
becoming
the
The
Graduate.
So
would
you
be
comfortable
committing
to
a
certain
percentage
of
long-term,
short-term.
I
I
really
would
like
to
comply
with
the
court.
I
don't
want
to
change
the
code,
because
somebody
wants
me
to
change
the
code
I
like
to
comply
with
the
code.
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
that
building.
I
have
served
so
much
in
Evanston
here
and
I
want
to
try
that
I,
don't
know
my
percentage.
Maybe
in
a
year
I
know
my
percentage
I
don't
know,
but
I
am
not
I
think
a
long-term
tenant.
This
building
does
not
belong
and.
I
D
I
No
I
I
don't
want
the
reader
to
give
me
that
I
want
to
try
it
myself.
I
want
to
do
and
I
am
not
going
to
promote
at
the
beginning.
Long
term
in
the
building
I
will
run
the
building
as
an
apartment,
hotel
and
I.
This
is
what
and
and
I
think
I
I
waited
too
long.
I
D
I
I
I
Here
we
have
300
tenants,
low
income
in
our
company.
We
we
we,
we
advertise
to
get
low
income.
So
we're
not
we're
not
the
purpose
of
that
to
make
all
the
trends
yet
that
we
keep
the
low
income
out.
I
want
to
give
another
statistic,
so
people
people
seeming
in
here:
where
does
they
think
about
the
the
homeless,
the
yeah?
I
Where
is
that
that
one
is
it
okay?
If
I
yeah
here
we
during
the
pandemic,
we
took
our
operation,
we
took
300
homeless
in
our
buildings
in
Chicago,
okay
out
of
those
we
have
now
61,
they
got
jobs
and
they
they
they.
They
they
they
we
have
70,
have
moved
to
section
eight
they're,
still
in
our
building
and
and
we
lost
170
out
of
it.
I
So
we
have
recorded
that
and
the
purpose
of
not
doing
the
percentage
here
is
not
to
equip
the
low
income
if,
if
I
run
this
building,
if
I
decided
to
run
20
units,
I
I
have
no
problem,
putting
the
percentage
there.
So
I
just
want
to
say
this
that
we
really
want
to
try
this
building
as
a
partner
Hotel
all
over
Transit,
because
we
believe
that
the
city
need
that
we
need
it
very
important
for
all
the
family,
I
I.
I
Well,
tell
them
how
you
and
your
family
try
to
go,
find
a
hotel
with
who
you
and
if
somebody
coming
to
town
here,
a
family
with
mother
and
father
and
their
kid
going
to
Northwestern
and
they
have
their
brother
and
they
want
to
find
the
place
to
go
there
till
they
see
the
university
and
things
like
this.
They
are
we're
going
to
be
the
only
place.
There
is
a
big
need
for
an
apartment
hotel
in
Evanston.
Thank
you
and.
G
Oh
okay,
yes,
so
first
I
just
want
to
thank
Mr
haleem
for
availing
himself
to
the
committee
and
and
coming
with
with
as
prepared
as
he
is
so
I
appreciate
the
questions
of
of
my
colleagues.
I
I
really
appreciate.
I
had
a
conversation
with
councilmember
news
earlier
and
he
gave
an
extremely
thorough
breakdown
of
this
I
think
I'm,
leaning
in
the
same
direction
as
other
members,
I
I,
think.
G
The
thing
that
we
really
just
looking
forward
need
to
focus
on
is
is
adjusting
our
code
and
I
know
we're
going
to
undertake
that
process
soon
with
our
comprehensive
planning,
hopefully,
because
I
do
think
this
is
well
I'm
I'm.
You
know,
I'm
happy
that
the
Helens
are
making
another
investment
here
in
Evanston
and
I.
Think
that
you
know,
if
done
properly,
that
this
comes
from
renusma
said,
could
be
a
real
asset
to
the
community
in
the
area.
G
I
do
think
that
the
code
AS
is,
is
you
know,
kind
of
a
loophole
if
you
will
and
we
need
to
fix
that,
but
certainly
you
know
it
exists
now,
and
the
haleems
or
Mr,
halim
and
and
Mrs
attorney
are
are
extremely
diligent
at
going
through
the
code
and
they
found
this
and
so
I
think
you
know
we
should.
G
We
should
honor
that
move
forward
with
an
appropriate
operating
agreement
to
ensure
that
you
know
this
is
an
asset
to
the
community
and
as
many
of
the
other
Investments
that
the
Helens
have
made
has
has
been
so
I
appreciate
the
discussion
and
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
this.
K
Yeah
I
was
just
curious
if
you
folks
had
a
chance
to
bring
someone
from
Windham
to
kind
of
answer.
Some
of
these
questions
around
the
apartment,
Hotel
questions,
I,
think
you
know
you
mentioned
that
they
had
a
lot
of
properties.
They
do
this
a
lot
if
I'd
like
to
see
some
data
around
what
an
apartment
Hotel
occupancy
looks
like
in
like
a
college
town,
it
sounds
like
they're
everywhere,
so
that
that
information
would
be
helpful.
For
me.
A
I
would
if
no
one's
going
to
speak.
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
just
pay
some
accolades
to
the
homestead
and
Dave
and
Holly
Reynolds
that
ran
a
beautiful
hotel
apartment
establishment
with
great
success.
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
it
council,
member
hirakaris,
but
that
was
a
really
wonderful
successful
example
in
our
city
of
the
of
this
sort
of
a
mix
mixture,
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
is
that
I'm
sure
they'd
be
happy
to
talk
also
about
what
they
did
to
make
it
so
successful.
D
I
have
a
suggestion
for
for
how
we
can
move
forward
here,
but
before
I
get
there.
If
you
have
have
you
given
any
thought
to
the
rental
room,
rental
rates
on
a
daily
or
weekly
or
monthly
basis,.
I
I
think
what
they
I
see.
The
rich
is
everyday
old
hotels,
especially
by
Northwest
like
if
I
looked
less
time
to
get
somebody
when
the
football
game
was
going
here
and
I
think
that
it
was
seven
thousand
dollars
a
room.
One
night
yeah
I,
I
I,
don't
maybe
I
can
say
like
in
in
in
in
the
the
not
high
demand
area,
maybe
about
two
hundred
dollars
a
night.
Something
like
that.
If
it
is
if
it's
busy
I
but
I
I,
don't
know.
D
Okay,
I
do
think
that
we
probably
don't
have
the
information
that
we
would
need
to
move
this
forward
tonight.
I
think
there
are
some
questions
about
the
percentage
of
transient
guests.
I
think
the
operating
agreement
is
something
that
we
would
feel
more
comfortable.
Advancing
to.
You
know
more
than
just
a
conceptual
State
before
we
vote
to
introduce
this
I
think
some
more
information
from
Windham
would
be
appropriate
and
some
more
discussion
about
ensuring
that
well-qualified,
well-qualified
management
team
is
in
place.
D
I
think
that
would
inevitably
be
part
of
the
operating
agreement.
So
since
there
are
some
unanswered
questions
tonight
that
it
seems
like
we're
not
ready
to
move
this
forward,
I
will
make
a
motion
that
we
table
this
for
now
to
allow
the
applicant
some
time
to
address
these
issues
to
work
together
with
myself
and
the
appropriate
staff
F.
And
then
we
would
come
back
to
this
committee.
I'll
ask
the
applicant:
how
much
time
do
you
think
this
would
take?
Our
next
meeting
is
in
two
weeks?
That's
probably
not
going
to
be
enough.
Oh.
I
No,
we
can't
wait,
no,
no!
You
have
to
come,
and
really
this
is
like
you're
putting
other
things,
not
in
the
code,
how
good
manager
the
code
does
not
require
a
manager
in
there
and
and
it's
all
vague
question
what
you
want
and
we
really
have
the
building
vacant.
We
we
need
to
get
going
construction.
The
way
that
I'm
asking
us
for
a
we
can.
We
can
we
can't
and
then
we
have
to
go
to
you
and
go
to
the
city
council.
I
think
this
is
just
so
important.
It's
about
us.
D
I
I
think
two
weeks
is
too
fast:
we're
going
to
need
some
staff
support
on
this,
so
I
would
say
a
month
minimum
minimum
yeah.
So
I
will.
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
bring
this
back
and
can
you
the
date
of
that
is
April.
D
A
April
24th,
so
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
bring
back
April
24th
discussion,
council
member
Reed.
G
Thank
you,
I
I
am
fine
with
that,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
Mr
Mr
halim
what
you're
concerned
about
this
being
a
month.
You
know
waiting
a
month
is,
and
I
mean
the
soonest
we
could
bring
it
back
would
be
right.
Two
weeks
from
now.
Is
that
correct
councilman
renews
me
if.
I
You
want
what
I
don't
know
what
you
want
to
give
you.
You
want
the
agreement,
you
you
said
you
wanted
a
disagree,
you
don't
know
you
I,
don't
know
what
you
want
in
it.
He
could
write
this
in
one
day.
If
I
know
what
you
want,
anything
you
want
to
win
them.
I
can
give
you
their
their
requirement.
We
have
it
at
the
office
tomorrow
morning,
but
I
don't
want
to
wait
another
month
and
I'm
complying
with
the
code.
I
D
So
between
now
and
then
we
will
have
to
talk
and
I'll
bring
in
the
appropriate
staff
to
make
sure
we're
covering
all
these
bases.
I
D
I
think
you've
heard
some
tonight
and
let's,
let's
set
up
a
meeting
with
with
the
appropriate
staff
sometime
later
this
week
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we're
that
we're
giving
you
that
that
list
of
questions.
A
You
so
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
I
do
want
to
apologize.
Like
I
say
you
are
the
first.
We
have
a
new
license
system
and
the
operating
agreement,
so
I
I
think
this
is
very
difficult
and
I
will
just
apologize
because
I
think
you're
having
to
Wade
through
this
with
us
and
I
think
it
probably
is
being
prolonged
a
bit
as
a
result.
Council,
member
Burns.
D
E
Councilman
Reed
was
he
first
okay,
mother
I
understand
some
of
the
frustration,
I
will
say:
I,
don't
think
this
is
the
venue
to
answer
any
of
the
last
two
questions.
E
I've
heard,
I
think
what
you're
getting
from
us,
if
it's
approved,
is
that
a
staff
person
is
going
to
reach
out
this
week
and
and
provide
answers
to
your
questions,
and
hopefully-
and
this
is
why
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment-
provide
specific
details
about
what
we're
looking
for
and
I'll
make
sure
I
also
get
in
on
that,
as
as
a
council
member
that
also
wants
to
weigh
in
on
this
I
will
say,
because
you
keep
referencing
the
code
that
when
you
see
that
little
those
two
words
special
use,
that's
a
very
us
and
your
attorney's
shaking
his
head,
because
he
knows
that's
a
different
process
than
what
I
think
you
imagine
to
do
things
by
right
is,
it
is,
is
different
than
by
special
use
is
very
uncertain,
I'm
trying
to
get
some
things
going
in
Chicago,
and
we
actually
are
we're
trying
to
find
space
that
didn't
require
any
special
use
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
this
process.
E
But
it's
not
as
simple
as
the
code
says,
this
there's
all
types
of
stipulations
that
could
be
added
on
as
part
of
the
approval
and
that's
the
process
that
you're
going
through
now,
but
again,
I
think
it
is
only
right
by
a
governor
body
to
be
very
specific
about
what
what
it's
looking
for
and
I
think
we
will
do
that
for
you,
Mr
halim,
so
I
certainly
will
offer
my
comments
quickly.
You
know
in
between
this
meeting
and
hopefully
that
that
provides
some
assurances
for
you
and
that's
all
true.
Thank
you.
G
Sure,
and
here
I
just
want
to
know
that
I
had
not
relinquished.
G
Okay,
yeah
well
well,
I
think
well.
Well,
although
I
think
a
lot
of
it
has
been
answered,
I
just
want
to
check
in
one
last
time
and
with
two
things.
One
chair
you
made
a
comment
about
the
operating
agreement
and
I
just
want
to
check
in
is
the
reason
for
the
Opera
or
the
requirement
that
there's
an
operating
agreement.
G
Is
that
tied
to
the
fact
that
this
is
special
use
and
that
existed
long
before
for
for
a
long
time,
or
is
that
operating
agreement
tied
to
the
recent
ordinance
that
we
passed
requiring
operating
agreements
for
for
these
type
of
types
of
units?
So
is
it?
Is
it
special
use
or
is
it
the
new
ordinance.
L
You
to
respond
to
that
question.
Specifically,
it
is
the
new
ordinance
that
was
recently
passed
that
does
require
the
operating
agreement.
Thank.
G
You
so
that's
not
tied
to
the
Specialties,
okay
and
then
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
Institute
Mr
lame.
It
seems.
L
Hold
on
council
member
Reed
just
to
clarify
that
point
specifically,
there
is
currently
in
the
ordinance
a
condition
of
approval
for
the
special
use
permit
that
requires
them
to
get
the
shared
housing
license.
That
also
requires
the
operating
agreement,
so
it
is
a
little
bit
of
both.
They
are
required
to
have
the
license,
regardless
of
the
special
use,
because
this
is
one
of
the
land
uses
that
requires
that
license.
G
Thank
you
thank
you
and
lastly,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify.
It
seems
like
you're
concerned
Mr
haleem
about
the
the
tabling
of
this
for
a
month,
isn't
about
you
know
if
we
table
it
for
a
month
that
the
deal
is
going
to
fall
through
or
something
you
know
detrimental
is
going
to
happen
here.
It's
just
that
you
don't
want
to
be.
I
Well,
my
concern
is
the
question
which
came
here
is
all
general
question
and
I:
don't
see
anything
specific
I'm
scared
of
this
I'm
scared
that
we're
talking
about
General
things,
nothing
specific
and
how
I'm
gonna
make
you
happy
to
vote.
I
mean
it's
today,
I,
I
and
I
think
all
you're
concerned
what
I
heard
I
cannot
fix
it.
I
If
you
think
that
I'm
not
qualified
I
cannot
be
qualified,
because
this
is
me
if
you
think
that
the
I
I
don't
know
I'm
worried
from
the
uncertainty
of
the
discussion
and
and
we're
going
to
go
another
month
and
come
back
we're
uncertain
again.
So.
G
Yeah
I
I
I.
Thank
you
for
that
and
I
think
we're
maybe
ready
to
move
forward
with
this,
but
I
I
I
think
you've.
There's
a
majority
of
the
Council
on
this
committee.
I
always
like
folks
to
you
know,
leave
with
assurance
that
you
know
that
that
this
body
is,
you
know,
coming
from
a
place
of
genuine
concern
that
we're
not.
You
know
that
are
that
the
questions
are
genuine
and
so
I
as
councilman
bernusma
said
and
council
member
Burns
reiterated
I.
G
Think
we'll
get
those
questions
to
you
as
as
soon
as
possible
and
I'm
prepared
and
I
think
I've
heard
from
some
other
members
at
least
the
sentiment
that
we
are.
You
know
we're
we're
prepared
to
try
to
get
to
yes
and
I.
G
Think
the
particularly
just
to
clarify
and
give
you
some
Assurance
the
question
about
you
know
your
qualification
isn't
about
you,
but
I
think
it's
really
about
making
sure
that
you
have
a
strong
partner
coming
on
board
such
as
Windham
in
that
there's,
some
assurances
from
those
Partners.
So,
looking
forward
to
getting
answers
to
the
questions
to
my
colleagues
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
this
again
in
a
month,
thank
you
all.
A
A
I
think
councilmember
newsman
is
gonna,
we'll
reach
out
to
you
so
that
you
all
can
meet
with
staff
and
make
sure
everything's
Crystal
Clear
what
needs
to
be
ironed
out
on
both
ends.
I
think
it's
not
just
you
I
I,
think
it's
you.
D
I
And
you're
going
to
give
us
idea
about
the
the
agreement
operation
agreement,
how
to
how?
What
what
you
want
is
your
concerned,
how
much
staff
we
have
when
are
we
going
to
change
beds?
One?
Are
you
gonna
what
kind
of
security
you
will
have,
or
we
don't
know,
we
don't
know
how
to
write.
So
you
need
to
get
to
that
and
give
us
what
you
need
and
the
operating
again
operating
agreement
is
running
like
any
hotel,
so
I
mean
it's
simple:
you're
going
to
have
room
service
everywhere.
A
D
I
A
You
very
much
for
coming
this
evening.
Okay,
would
somebody
like
to
move
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
D
J
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
discussion
council
member
Wynn.
J
Yes,
I
I
want
to
urge
my
colleagues
to
vote
Yes
on
this.
The
reason
why
this
is
necessary
is
that
space
is
expanding,
not
their
performance
space
but
they're
sort
of
back
their
entrance
they're,
adding
more
bathrooms
and
they're
providing
easier
access
for
people
coming
their
patrons
coming
to
their
venue.
Prior
to
this
space,
the
activities
of
space
were
deemed
to
be
an
accessory
to
the
restaurant.
Now
that
they're,
adding
expanding
their
footprint
and
adding
these
additional
amenities
requires
it
to
have
to
go,
have
a
special
use.
J
D
Before
devoting
yes,
I'm
sorry
I'm
looking
forward
to
voting
yes
here,
this
is
really
going
to
be
an
exciting
amenity
for
the
neighborhood.
There
are
other
B1
districts
in
town
where
something
like
this
might
not
be
appropriate.
It's
out
in
the
neighborhoods
like
in
Lake
Street
in
Ashland
or
somewhere
over
there.
D
I
know
that
would
be
a
special
use
and
would
have
to
come
through
that
process.
But
we
also
are
going
to
be
taking
a
really
deep
dive
into
our
comprehensive
plan
and
redoing
our
entire
zoning
map,
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
hung
up
on
this
too
much,
but
it
is
certainly
possible
that,
as
we
go
through
this
kind
of
rezoning
process,
we'll
be
changing
designations
on
some
of
these
kind
of
Oddball
or
unique
little
Charming
pockets
of
of
B1.
A
J
F
Well,
I,
just
I
did
notice
the
reference
to
the
noise
ordinance
and
specifically
to
the
mention
of
the
150
foot
requirement
between
the
soy
source
of
the
noise
and
residential
property,
and
that
seems
to
be.
You
know
something
that
everybody's
paying
attention
to,
but
the
noise
ordinance
also
talks
about
hours
of
permitted
use
which
are
somewhat
different
than
the
hours
that
space
is
proposing.
F
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
problem.
What
they're
talking
about
is
where's
the
wording
here.
Basically
ambient
background.
C
F
Background
music
that
would
be
conceivably
in
the
outdoor
area,
so
I'm
just
I'm,
just
sort
of
highlighting
that
as
as
given
given
that
space
is
going
to
be
open
till
midnight
on
weekdays
and
wait
11
o'clock
on
weekdays
at
midnight
on
the
weekends
that's
an
hour
later
than
the
noise
ordinance
provides
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
a
problem.
But
it's
we.
We
have
both
the
150
foot
requirement,
as
well
as
the
hours
of
operation
requirement
in
the
noise
ordinance.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
council,
member
Revell.
That
was
something
that
was
just
discussed
at
the
neighborhood
meeting.
The
the
concern
about
the
outdoor
seating
area
not
have
any
any
music
there
or
you
know
other
than
just
some
background
music
that
would
be
playing,
but
I'm
sure
that
space
will
comply
with
the
noise
ordinance.
F
Right,
yeah
and
you
know,
I
I
have
space
in
at
Canal
Shores
every
summer
and
they
are
very
cognizant
of
impact
on
nearby
residents
and
to
you
know,
go
really
out
of
their
way
to
make
sure
that
they
do
everything
according
to
rules
and
regulations.
Yes,.