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Planning & Development Committee 01/13/2014
A
A
All
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes,
please
say:
aye
aye.
The
first
item
for
consideration
is
p1
ordinance,
12-0
desk
14,
granting
special
use
for
a
type
2
restaurant
harold's,
chicken
shack,
the
ZBA
and
the
city
staff
recommended
option
of
this
ordinance,
granting
a
special
used
for
operation
of
a
type
2.
Second,.
A
C
B
B
C
C
I
will
have
a
license
on
which
is
action
arm
who
do
a
lot
of
who
is
for
city
of
Chicago
I'm
sure
they
do
out
here
too
I'm
action
as
a
certified
company.
I
will
have
them
come
out
and
it
has
to
be
described,
but
they
have
to
check
and
sign
off
on
it
before
you
get
the
permit
as
part
of
the
permit
process.
C
C
C
B
D
B
C
C
And
I
think
it
comes
with
the
territory
of
a
fast
food
and
carry
out
business
is
just
you
have
to
be
very
extra
guarded.
I
believe
that,
because
it
just
has,
you
have
to
run
a
tight
ship,
you
have
to
make
sure
that's
why
I
didn't
provide
a
lot
of
seating
because
sometimes
when
you
have,
when
all
my
story,
I
don't
have
sit
down,
because
I
want
them
just
to
get
their
food
to
be
honest
and
leave,
because
I
don't
want
to
ever
have
the
lottery.
C
You
know
are
people
hanging
out
because
on
seventy-ninth
Street
I
find
myself
all
day,
referee
and
kids,
that's
probably
why
I
got
sick
because
I'm
gonna
hit
Getty.
What
are
you
doing
in
front
hey?
What
are
you
doing
here
and
I'ma
find
myself
chasing
them,
and
I
will
have
watching
my
camera's
all
day
they
just
you
know.
It
takes
a
lot
of
monitor.
F
C
A
A
Right
next
item
is
p2
ordinance,
13
0
14,
granting
special
use
for
a
type
2
restaurant
DMK,
burger
bar
and
fish
bar.
The
CBA
and
the
city
staff
recommend
approval,
granting
a
special
use
for
this
new
type
2
restaurant.
Do
we
have
anyone
representing
DMK
burger
here
this?
Would
you
like
to
come
up
and
introduce
yourself
I.
G
E
Are
you
venting,
but
we
haven't
had
this
kind
of
food
preparation
in
that
location
before
it
was
formerly
fresh,
it
was
a
bakery
and
right,
and
so
how
will
you
be
venting
it's
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
it's
backing
up
to
a
large
apartment,
building
and
then
condo
building.
So
it's
all
residential
around
it
right
and
I.
G
G
I'll
do
my
best.
This
is
not
my
forte
okay,
so
we
have
separate
grease
traps
and
you
know
it's
just
it's
a
super
expensive
piece
of
equipment.
This
is
our
seventh
restaurant
and
it's
a
similar
equipment
package
that
we've
installed
elsewhere.
They're,
not
all
DMK,
burger
bars
or
fish
bars.
They
all
have
a
similar
kind
of
fry
station
component
to
them
so
we're
great
neighbors.
We've
got
a
track
record
of
being
great
neighbors
and
we
have
had
historically
no
incidents
whatsoever
as
far
as
odors
or
inconveniences
to
the
name,
proud.
Okay,.
F
A
A
Great
alright,
we
have
another
entry
in
the
burger
wars:
mm-hmm,
okay
item
p3,
ordinance,
14
0
14,
granting
a
special
use
for
a
retirement
home
retirement,
home
and
major
zoning
relief
for
a
one-story
addition
at
1300
oak
avenue,
cba
in
the
city
staff,
recommended
opting
this
ordinance.
Granting
a
special
use
permit
for
retirement
home.
Do.
A
H
A
Finally,
we
have
P
for
ordinance,
20,
15,
20,
14,
amending
various
portions
of
the
city
code
of
bed
and
breakfast
establishments.
The
plan
commission
is
a
staff
of
recommending
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
to
establish
a
type
1
and
type
2
bed
and
breakfast
establishments.
This
is
for
introduction
tonight,
so
we
have
a
brief
report
from
the
staff.
Would
you
like
to
briefly
discuss
this
mark,
sir.
I
Martin,
director
of
community
development
in
your
packet
you'll
see
a
memo
from
staff
as
to
how
we
and
the
Planning
Commission
decided
to
approach
this.
After
some
previous
discussions
on
the
topic,
we
did
some
research
in
other
communities
that
have
dmvs
in
the
community
and
that
we
felt
somewhat
resembled
evanston
to
try
and
tackle
if
council
so
chooses
to
further
regulate
the
establishment
and
basically,
what
we
came
up
with,
and
the
summary
is
on.
I
The
second
page
of
my
memo
to
you
is
to
separate
the
being
these
into
a
type
one
and
a
type
2
a
type
one
would
be
two
bedrooms
or
less.
It
would
effectively
be
accessory
to
a
residence.
It
would
be
a
situation
typically
where
household
needed
to
augment
their
income
and
develop
a
B&B
in
just
a
couple
rooms
of
their
residence.
It
would
still
require
a
special
use
and
there
would
be
no
distance
requirement
from
other
bmds.
What
it
would
change
is
the
way
the
ordinance
read
right
now.
I
It
just
said:
there's
no
ownership
percentage
tied
to
the
fact
that
it
needs
to
be
owner
occupied
according
to
own
and
according
to
the
ordinance.
This
would
put
a
number
on
that
would
be
thirty
three
percent
ownership
interests
of
somebody
living
on
site.
The
type
to
would
be
the
higher
intensity
use.
It
would
be
more
commercial
in
nature,
it
would
be
up
to
five
bedrooms,
it
would
have
the
same
thirty-three
percent
owner
occupancy.
It
would
still
require
special
use.
I
The
plan
commission,
and
despite
many
attempts
and
motions,
could
not
come
up
with
a
exact
distance
requirement,
though
they
believed
that
a
distance
requirement
was
needed
between
the
other
type
2
or
the
higher
intensity
uses.
So
in
light
of
that
staff
took
the
highest
number
that
they
came
up
with,
which
was
1500
feet,
which
is
effectively
about
three
blocks:
a
radius
around
the
site.
So
that's
the
the
proposal
in
front
of
you.
E
E
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
this?
Yes,
I
will
speak
to
this.
This
is
a
reference
by
alderman
when
the
second
go
around
at
the
plan,
commission
I
attended
the
plan,
commission
meeting
and
I
thought.
The
discussion
was
very
good,
I
mean
clearly
they
understood
the
proliferation
of
commercial
bed
and
breakfasts
on
in
particular
neighborhoods
and
how
that
might
what
effect
that
might
have
on
those
neighborhoods
and
I
thought
they
had
a
very,
very
good
discussion.
The
only
area,
as
mr.
E
munzer
said
that
they
were
having
trouble
with,
is
what
the
distance
requirement
for
a
commercial
you
should
be
I
mean
currently
in
the
First
Ward.
We
have
two
approved
commercial
vian
bees
that
are
within
a
hundred
feet
of
one
another.
We
have
an
application,
I
believe
was
that
submitted
or
withdrawn,
or
what
is
the
status
if.
E
E
I
think
the
the
feeling
of
the
council
at
that
time
was
that,
after
approval
of
those,
we
would
wait
and
see
what
happened
and
what
we're
seeing
is
that
there
is
interest
by
other
parties
to
to
open
commercial
be
in
bees
in
the
especially
in
the
lakefront
neighborhoods.
So
it
was
happy
to
to
listen
to
the
discussion.
I
had
a
ward
meeting
that
was
well
attended
where
we
discussed
this.
It
was
on
the
agenda
and
I
think
this
has
the
support
of
the
neighborhood.
E
They
would
like
to
see
stricter
enforcement,
but
I
think
they're
happy
to
to
have
this.
Have
this
come
forward
now?
I
hope
that
those
of
you
who
are
in
other
Ward's
would
understand
that
this,
these
commercial
uses
really
are
disruptive
in
some
people's
minds
to
the
residential
character
of
neighborhoods
alderman.
A
E
J
Like
what
I
like
about
the
proposal
is
distinguishing
between
the
type
1
and
type
2
bed
and
breakfast
establishments
I
have
issues
with
the
owner
occupancy
thirty-three
percent
requirement.
I
also
have
issues
with
the
idea
of
a
distance
requirement,
given
that
bed
and
breakfast
right
now,
I
believe
requires
special
use,
permit
and
go
through
the
process.
I
also
have
questions
about
how
this
aligns
with
our
short-term
occupancy
licensing
ordinance,
because
there
are
already
I'm
guessing.
We
have
one
licensed
short
term
rental.
J
If
you
check
an
Airbnb,
I'm
guessing
that
there
are
many
more
operating
with
in
evanston,
they
don't
require
a
special
use
and
they
are
their
existing
with
in
evanston
in
the
same
way,
and
perhaps
with
the
same
impact
that
a
type
one
bed
and
breakfast
would
have.
Those
are
that's
my
initial
thinking
on
this
having
read
the
packet
materials.
J
So,
for
me
it's
the
is
the
ownership
issue,
a
distance
requirement,
and
I
can't
remember
what
else
I
said,
but
I
do
like
the
idea
of
the
two
different
types
of
been
breakfast
establishment
so
that
our
short-term
rental
right
and
how
that
either
is
distinct
from
it
or
aligns
with
it.
And
are
we
consistent
between
how
we
are
looking
to
regulate
the
type
ones
and
our
short-term
rentals?
How
are
they
different
Alma.
H
You
and
I
agree
with
much
of
what
ottoman
Grover
said.
So
I
won't
repeat
those
points,
but
with
regard
to
the
ownership
interest
requirement,
I
understand
where
that
comes
from
and
understand
what
that's
about,
but
at
the
same
time
it
seems
this.
Is
it
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
arbitrary,
but
I
think
I
think
it's
a
little
arbitrate.
The
other
thing
is
as
I've,
given
this
a
lot
of
thought
over
the
past,
you
know
year
year
and
a
half
since
these
have
been
discussed,
I
guess
in
my
own
mind,
I
diced
still
feel
like.
H
This
is
more
the
kind
of
thing
that
be
I
guess
a
case-by-case
basis
situation
as
opposed
to
setting
you
know
distance
requirements.
You
might
have
an
area
where
zero
would
be
appropriate.
None
would
be
appropriate
in
certain
areas.
You
might
have
an
area
where
two
or
three
in
a
row
might
be
a
good
idea.
It's
just.
It
seems
to
be
more
appropriate
for
a
case-by-case
kind
of
analysis
and
with
the
special
use
process
that
we
have
in
place.
It
does
subject
them
to
a
significant
degree
of
scrutiny.
F
Ultimate
homes,
I
did
not
attend
the
meeting,
but
I
did
watch
the
replay
on
TV,
so
I
did
get
to
hear
the
exchange
between
the
plan.
Commission
members,
you
know
in
terms
and
I,
saw
a
lot
of
heard,
a
lot
of
wavering
back
and
forth
between
the
discussion.
My
issue,
of
course,
is
with
the
owner
occupancy
requirement.
F
I
think
it's
high,
thirty-three
percent
I
think
that's
really
high
and
I
also
think
that
you
know,
since
we
don't
have
a
track
record
yet
to
be
able
to
say
what
kind
of
impact
it's
having
just
isn't
right
and
since
it's
always
going
to
be
a
special
use,
we
always
have
the
option
of
you
know,
voting
for
or
against
it.
So
I
just
don't
think
that
we
should
do
this
yet
alternate
ending.
D
Thank
you,
I
agree
to
the
social
use
is
really
what
I
can't
conceive
of
any
other
way
of
dealing
with
this,
except
especially
yours.
We
don't
have
that
many
in
the
pipeline.
We
don't
have
that
many
that
we
receive
it
I
think
it's
something
we
could
anticipate
and
certainly
the
cases
it
can
be
for
counsel
at
this
point
could
be
dealt
with
one-on-one
and,
like
all
the
others,
there
are
special
circumstances.
The
other
thing,
I
have
a
real
big
issues
with
is
a
the
radial
dimension
for
proximity
to
another
B&B.
D
You
know
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
linear
measure.
That
would
be
I
suppose
on
the
street
in
a
linear
way,
but
the
radial
dimension
just
casts
a
big
net.
You
don't
have
to
consider
that
it
goes.
You
know
several
blocks
behind
a
particular
B&B
would
also
be
restricted
and
it
could
be
a
totally
different,
neighborhood
political
situation,
very
unaware
of
what's
going
on
in
other
part
of
town,
we're
really
it
does
cast
a
wide
net
like
I
said
it
and
I
think
that's
really
unfair,
so
these
special
uses
way
to
go.