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A
A
I
am
excited
for
our
series
on
policing
today,
because
we're
going
to
talk
about
alternative
policing
models
and
we
have
guests
with
us
from
olympia,
washington
in
denver
colorado,
and
we
also,
as
as
usual,
have
our
police
chief
demetrius
cook,
along
with
two
of
his
deputy
chiefs,
deputy
chief
secludey
and
deputy
chief
aretha
barnes
are
with
us
today.
A
This
is
our
second
to
last
in
the
series
that
we're
having
all
together,
we'll
have
had
nine
conversations
next
monday
august
31st
will
be
our
last
one
and
we
are
gonna,
have
a
conversation
with
evanston
black
youth
to
talk
about
their
experience
with
policing
here
in
our
community.
So
I
expect
that
will
be
a
well
intended
session,
so
so
today
we're
on
to
alternative
policing
models.
A
What
I
thought
I
would
do
is
I'm
actually
going
to
start
with
some
questions
that
people
have
emailed
in
prior
to
this.
So
I'm
going
to
direct
them
to
you,
chief
cooker,
to
your
deputy
chiefs,
and
this
will
give
our
guests
sort
of
a
flavor
of
how
we're
handling
homelessness
right
now
or
issues
of
mental
health
situations
that
come
up
in
individuals
call
9-1-1
so
chi.
B
Good
afternoon
everybody,
the
homelessness
issue
in
everson
is
kind
of
pervasive.
We
have
a
large
number
of
homeless
people
and
I
believe
the
reasoning
behind
that
is
the
homeless
population
in
cook
county
understand
where
they
can
get
good
service.
B
B
Up
until
now,
evanston
takes
great
pride
in
dealing
with
the
homeless,
so
we
do
get
a
large
number
of
homeless
calls
and
normally
what
happened
that
caller
come
in
through
9-1-1
we'll
send
a
police
officer,
and
you
know
what
we
try
to
do
is
get
that
person
the
treatment
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
be
in
a
violent
state
because
of
a
lack
of
taking
their
medications
and
so
forth,
so
we'll
take
them
to
the
hospital
and
that
becomes
a
revolving
door
type
deal
they'll
get
in
intake
into
the
hospital
and
then
the
next
day,
more
than
likely
we'll
see
that
person
out
on
the
street
again
in
the
wintertime
when
the
person
is
not
necessarily
suffering
from
an
episode
of
some
sort.
B
We
transport
them
with
the
assistance
of
connections
for
the
homeless,
which
is
a
a
not-for-profit
agency
here
in
evanston
that
deals
with
the
homeless
population,
either
they'll
come
out
and
assist
us
with
getting
placement
or
shelter
for
the
homeless
person,
because
after
seven
o'clock,
a
lot
of
these
homeless
agencies
will
not
intake
any
additional
patients
after
that,
after
that
time,
so
connections
for
the
homeless
will
make
sure
that
they
can
either
get
into
one
of
these
places
that
may
have
shut
the
doors
for
the
night
or
will
provide
transportation
for
the
homeless
person
to
a
location
in
chicago,
and
we
do
that
on
many
occasions
you
have
a
lot
of
population
of
homeless
people
sleeping
in
the
bus,
shelters,
sleeping
on
the
cta
train
platform,
sleeping
in
in
vestibules
of
apartment
building.
B
So
that
is
a
very
pervasive
deal.
The
other
deal
is
we
do
do
a
significant
number
of
check
the
well-beings
a
lot
of
times
when
we
go
to
these
locations
to
check
the
well-being.
It's
usually
a
call
in
the
9-1-1
or
through
the
desk,
where
the
family,
member
or
a
friend
is
saying
that
they
haven't
heard
from
their
loved
one
in
a
number
of
days.
B
They
have
went
to
the
location
and
they
see
the
mail
piled
up.
So
what
we
do
is
we'll
go
there
and
check
and
we'll
make
entry
in
good
faith
years
ago,
the
state
of
the
state
of
illinois
kind
of
exempt
the
police
department
from
being
held
liable
when
they
make
entry
into
a
residence
in
good
faith
check
on
the
well-being
of
a
person.
Now,
sometimes
we
go
into
these
locations
and
we'll
find
the
person
they
have
passed
away.
B
Sometime
we'll
find
that
they're
there
and
they
just
don't,
want
to
be
bothered,
but
when
we
leave
there
we're
going
to
have
complete
resolution
as
to
where
that
person
is,
and
then
we
get
back
to
the
family
on
that
we
get,
we
get
a
significant
number
of
them.
I
think
that's
like
the
top
third
call
in
our
weapon
in
the
services
that
we
delivered.
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
remember
chief.
I
mean
the
well-being
calls
and
if,
at
some
point
you
can
pull
up
like
the
total
number
just
share
that
with
the
audience
again.
That
would
be
great,
but
I
remember
it
being
you
know
in
the
thousands
of
well-being
checks
throughout
an
entire
year
that
officer
that
officers
do
before
we
go
to
our
guests.
Can
you
talk
to
us?
A
You
mentioned
connections
for
the
homeless,
and
connections
is
really
one
of
the
significant
organizations
in
town
that
works
with
housing
and
homelessness
issues
they're
doing
a
lot
with
cobit
19,
because
we
do
not
have
a
permanent
homeless
shelter
here
or
an
overnight
shelter.
A
But
can
you
just
talk
about
your
collaboration
with
other
community
partners
and
how
that
how
that
works
and
and
then
I'm
gonna
turn
to
our
guests,
to
have
them
talk
about
the
programs
that
they
have
in
their
community.
B
Well,
we
work
with
many
many
agencies,
but
I'm
particularly
fond
of
working
with
connections
for
the
homeless.
B
You
know,
sometimes
we
are
running
the
road
blocks
where
it's
a
disconnect
between
what
we
actually
want
to
do
with
I'm
gonna
call
a
homeless
person,
a
club
customer
in
this
situation
and
what
connections
for
the
homeless
is
capable
of
doing,
but
when
I
run
into
those
robes,
I
make
a
call
to
miss
betty
boggs
who's,
the
director
there
and
we
always
find
a
resolution
to
what
the
problem
is
and
how
we
can
solve
it.
So
that's
what
I
really
like
about
how
she
operates.
B
Connections
for
the
homeless,
she's,
never
told
me.
No,
it's
always
will
find
a
way
and
just
bear
with
me
cook
and
I'll
get
back
to
you
in
a
minute,
and
she
always
does
so.
That
makes
our
job
when
we
go
to
these
situations
with
the
homeless
pretty
good.
B
We
also
work
good
with
a
number
of
youth
organizations
such
as
y
o.
U,
you
know,
that's
in
the
in
the
fifth
ward,
it's
on
church
street,
and
that
is
a
place
where
youth
have
refuge
it's
where
they
can
go
utilize
computers
do
their
homework,
get
tutoring
and
and
have
a
place
of
safety.
B
You
know
if
they,
if
they're
experiencing
a
problem
versus
making
it
a
police
problem,
they
can
go
to
you
and
come
up
with
a
resolution
that
may
be
appropriate,
but
I've
never
experienced
a
issue
with
ylu,
whereas
if
something
truly
was
a
issue
that
the
law
enforcement
agency
should
get
involved
with
that
they
didn't
help
us
with
that.
So
you
know
why
ou
ywca,
you
know
we
deal
with
them
a
lot
on
the
domestic
violence.
B
You
know
they
provide
shelter
for
a
lot
of
women
that
are
battered.
They
do
that
around
the
clock.
B
I
had
the
experience
when
everston
cut
the
social
workers
here
at
the
department
and
then
when
they
bought
the
social
workers
back
in
conjunction
with
the
ywca,
I
got
to
see
the
professionalism
and
those
ladies
that
work
for
the
y
by
wca,
and
I
thought
they
were
a
really
good
asset
and
they
have
been
an
asset
for
40
years
that
I
have
been
in
law
enforcement
here
at
this
time.
So
it's
a
collaboration
on
many
levels.
B
As
you
know,
mayor
I'm
on
the
mental
health
board
on
the
mayor's
mental
health
board
and
it's
got
to
be
50
or
60
mental
health,
not
for
profits.
B
There
and
I've
been
in
many
a
problem
solving
situation.
When
we
look
at
service
delivery,
you
know
who's
available
who's
available
at
night
who's
available
in
the
daytime.
B
A
Thanks
chief,
I
think
that
gives
us
a
good
foundation.
There's
also
a
whole
victim
advocacy
group
that
we
have
that's
in
our
department
in
our
department
of
health.
It
used
to
be
part
of
the
police
department,
but
it's
a
there's.
A
tight
liaison.
Is
that
right,
cheaper?
Did
I
mess
that
up.
B
If
I
may
mayor,
we
have
social
workers
here
we
have
two
only
licensed
social
workers.
Here
they
were
a
part
of
a
larger
social
work
network
that
we
had
exclusively
in
a
police
department
since
1976,
when
chief,
william
h,
logan
pioneered
social
workers
within
a
within
the
police
department.
We
also
had
four
youth
outreach
workers
that
worked
with
the
troubled
youth
and
youth
that
were
going
astray
and
could
possibly
at
some
time
some
point
be
termed
delinquent.
B
B
They
came
here
to
understand
to
see
how
we
did
it,
so
we've
always
been
progressive
and
nonsense,
and
I'm
glad
that
we
have
were
able
to
get
two
of
those
social
workers
back
here,
even
though
they
work
out
of
health
and
human
services.
B
A
Great,
so
we
so
after
george
floyd
brianna
taylor,
all
that
that
has
happened
out
there.
We
have
had
a
commitment
in
evanston
to
do
a
real,
deep
examination,
possibly
reimagination
of
policing
in
evanston.
A
There
have
been
a
couple
best
practices
reports,
big
reports
that
have
come
out,
one
from
the
u.s
conference
of
mayors
that
came
out
recently
another
one
called
the
new
era
of
public
safety,
which
was
the
leadership
education
fund
and
leadership
conference
on
civil
and
human
rights.
A
We
have
had
staff
in
the
city,
manager's
office,
review
both
of
those
and
I'm
really
pleased
that
in
evanston
we're
doing
a
lot
of
those
best
practices.
Already.
I
asked
her
to
bring
to
our
human
services
committee
on
august
31st
a
memo
that
that
sort
of
summarizes
her
review
of
those
and
those
areas
where
we're
not
doing
certain
things.
So
we
can
share
that
with
evanstonians
and
our
you
know,
residents
part
of
this.
You
know
reimagining
and
rethinking
policing
is
considering
whether
there
are
activities
that
we
have
our
police
doing.
A
That
may
best
be
performed
by
others,
whether
it's
a
non-profit
organization,
whether
it's
another
agency
with
within
the
city.
That's
still
ensuring
that
our
city
remains
a
safe,
safe
place,
but
maybe
provides
the
the
the
the
circumstance
with
a
better
solution,
and
so
today
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
have
guests
from
olympia,
washington
and
denver,
and
so
I'm
gonna.
Let
them
introduce
themselves
chris.
Why
don't
we
start?
Why
don't
we
start
with
you
and
if
you
could,
just
you
know,
share
with
people.
A
C
Sure
I'm
chris
richardson,
I'm
the
associate
director
of
criminal
justice
services
with
the
mental
health
center
of
denver.
The
mental
health
center
of
denver
is
the
largest
non-profit
mental
health
provider
in
the
city
and
what
we
kind
of
took
on
this
year,
just
kind
of
came
out
of
our
original
co-responder
team.
C
We
have
clinicians
that
ride
with
officers
that
started
about
five
years
ago
started
out
with
four
and
just
through
kind
of
like
that
partnership,
the
good
work
and
being
able
to
respond
to
people
in
a
very
trauma,
informed,
humanistic
kind
of
way
and
connecting
with
resources.
We
were
able
to
expand
our
correspondent
team
from
florida,
where
it's
at
right
now,
which
is
32
and
that's
providing
services
throughout
the
entire
city
of
denver
in
partnership
with
our
law
enforcement
partners.
C
What
we
realized
pretty
quick
in
january
2019,
is
that
there
was
still
a
lot
of
stuff
coming
across
9-1-1.
That
officers
were
taking
on
that.
We,
you
know
we
just
kind
of
were
just
like.
Is
this
something
that
they
actually
need
to
shoulder?
They
are
asked
to
shoulder
a
lot
in
the
community,
anything
that
comes
across
9-1-1
they're.
C
The
first
ones
that
are
responding
regardless,
if
there's
law
enforcement
or
not,
and
that's
been
going
on
for
a
very
long
time,
and
so
we
just
kind
of
did
some
internal
investigation
and
heard
about
this
cahoots
program
in
eugene
washington.
I
gotta
be
honest
with
you.
C
I
don't
know
how
they
kept
this
program,
so
quiet
for
so
long,
but
they've
been
running
it
for
a
decade
plus
where
it
is
a
civilian,
social
work,
type
person
riding
with
an
emtb
and
responding
to
low-level
911
calls
where
there's
not
a
safety
concern,
but
there's
either
a
behavioral
health
crisis
or
something
that
doesn't
require
a
law
enforcement
presence.
So
denver.
A
huge
contingent
of
denver
staff
went
up
there.
C
The
mental
health
center
of
denver,
denver,
police,
911
center,
denver
justice
project,
the
harm
reduction
action
center
and
we
basically
went
up
there
and
did
some
ride-alongs.
It
took
the
information
that
they
had
on
here's
a
different
approach
to
responding
to
people
that
really
just
need
help
and
need
something
either
from
a
solution
or
a
system
navigation,
or
something
like
that,
and
we
brought
that
down
to
denver
and
after
about
a
year
of
kind
of
talking
and
being
able
to
get
some
funding
attached
with
it.
C
We
launched
a
pilot
june
1st
of
this
year.
It
is
a
licensed
social
worker
writing
with
a
denver
health
paramedic
and
it
goes
10
a.m
to
6
p.m.
Monday,
through
friday
is
just
part
of
our
pilot
initiative,
primarily
in
the
downtown
corridor
area
of
denver,
and
so
far
over
the
past.
Soon,
to
be
three
months,
we've
been
over.
350
calls
for
service,
not
one
of
those
has
led
to
us
having
to
key
up
requesting
police
backup.
C
We
were
able
to
resolve
most
things
on
scene,
and
if
we
did
need
something
like
an
ambulance,
we
were
able
to
specifically
request
an
ambulance,
verse
kind
of
like
the
the
previous
system,
which
was
everyone
kind
of
shows
up
and
assesses
who
needs
to
be
there
and
leads
from
there.
And
what
we've
noticed
is
a
a
a
different
take
on
being
contacted
by
us.
C
It's
I'm
actually,
probably
a
little
more
dressed
up
than
I
normally
would
be,
I'm
usually
wearing
a
t-shirt
and
jeans
and
jumping
out
of
a
van
and
kind
of
talking
with
someone
who's
who's
dealing
with
something
that
just
is
it's.
It's
catching
them
on
a
bad
day,
and
they
just
want
some
relief
attached
with
that,
and
sometimes
it's
a
compassionate
year,
sometimes
it's
transportation
to
a
certain
location.
Sometimes
it's
I
just
can't
get
through
the
front
door
of
you
know.
C
I
want
mental
health
treatment,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
access
it
and
being
able
to
do
that
in
a
way,
that's
pretty
low
barrier
and
then
it's
also
kind
of
just
a
it's
a
humanistic
harm
reduction
based
approach
of
you
know
we
go
on
calls
occasionally
of
individuals
that
have
fallen
asleep
on
the
sidewalk
and
that's
just
being
able
to
very
nicely
wake
them
up
and
say:
hey:
where
can
we
get
you
to?
Can
we
get
you
to
at
least
a
bench
under
a
tree?
Keep
you
out
of
the
sun.
C
Here's
some
water!
Here's!
Some
resources
can
anything
else
you
might
need
and
and
that
that
approach
is
very
different
for
people
they
they
get
a
little
weirded
out
that
we
are
coming
across.
So
nice
is
what
we
keep
getting.
It's
like.
You
guys
are
being
nice.
Why?
What?
What
are
you
doing
that
for
it's
just
like
it's
a
different,
a
different,
take
and
different
way
to
connect
with
people
in
a
very
humanistic
kind
of
way?
C
Most
these
all
these
calls
are
coming
across
911
call
center
and
they're
being
identified
as
when
the
call
taker
is
taking
it
as
long
as
there's
not
a
safety
concern,
it's
something
that
we
would
be
able
to
respond
to
and
if
it
kind
of
raises
where
it
is
a
safety
concern.
It's
nice
because
denver
has
the
ability
to
tap
into
a
correspondent
model
where
a
police
officer
will
be
able
to
go
with
one
of
our
social
workers.
C
So
it's
really
a
tiered
system
of
responding
to
the
right
call
with
the
right
response
and
being
able
to
determine
whether
or
not
if,
if
law,
enforcement's,
not
needed,
then
the
starving
can
take
it
on.
And
if
it's
something
that
law
enforcement
is
needed,
there,
then
a
co-responder
can
be
requested
and
if
it's
something
where
it's
just
beyond
the
scope
of
even
a
social
worker
being
part
of,
then
the
police
kind
of
take
that
on
and
request
us
as
mute.
So
it
really
is
the
right
response
to
the
the
right
situation.
C
A
I
want
to
understand
you
started
off.
You
talked
about
a
program
where
you
had
four
also
called
social
workers
right
that
went
out
with
the
police.
Yes,
and
then
you
increased
that
program
all
the
way
to
32,
which,
which
is
huge
and
I've
recognized
denver
as
a
huge
city
and
everything
else.
But
then
you
talked
about
the
pilot
program
that
started
on
june
1st
and
so
the
pilot
program,
the
difference
between
the
other
program.
The
pilot
program
is
literally
9-1-1
is
sort
of
triaging
that
call
and
making
a
decision
about.
C
Exactly
and
they're
they're
going
based
on
their
kind
of
like
triage
process
and
as
as
they
go
through
that,
if
they're
like
safety
is
not
a
concern,
then
you
send
the
star
van
to
this
call
and
there's
been
a
few
occasions
where
they'll
actually
say
hey.
Can
you
give
us
a
call
and
they
run
the
scenario
by
us,
and
you
know
we
tend
to
be
like
yeah?
C
I
think
we
can
take
that
call
in
not
a
problem,
and
it
just
helps
expand
the
idea
of
like
what
calls
we
will
go
to
and
what
we
won't
go
to
and
what
we've
noticed
right
off
the
bat
pretty
early
is
that
about.
40
of
our
calls
are
actually
officers
that
are
on
a
call
and
recognize
that
this
is
not
something
they
need
to
be
on
and
they
will
call
us
in
and
we
kind
of
tap
them
out
and
say
yeah.
C
We
can
cover
it
from
here
and
being
able
to
kind
of
relieve
them
to
go
back
and
do
the
services
in
the
community
to
keep
our
communities
safe
and
then
the
uniqueness
of
the
star
van
is
is,
is
the
ability
to
transport
people
you
know
covet
has
definitely
changed
a
lot
of
service
providers,
ability
to
engage
with
the
community,
specifically
with
a
lot
of
like
act,
services,
sort
of
community
treatment
which
would
be
maybe
possibly
being
able
to
transport
an
individual
and
the
star
van.
C
You
know
it's
a
big
space
and
we're
able
to
do
it
safely.
Where
we
can
say,
can
we
get
you
to
a
shelter
or
to
get
your
meds
or
to
you
know
whatever
it
is?
In
that
moment,
it's
going
to
help
alleviate
some
of
your
stress
attached
with
what
what
the
crisis
you're
going
through
we'll
be
able
to
help.
Do
that.
A
C
Yeah
so
right
now
the
the
contract
is
held
by
the
denver
police
department
or
the
department
of
safety,
but
they
contract
out
with
the
mental
health
center
of
denver.
And
then
we
have
the
denver
health,
which
is
our
local
hospital,
supplying
the
paramedics.
At
this
time.
A
Interesting:
okay,
let's:
let's
we'll
go
back
and
forth
with
questions
and
all
that
and
chief,
I
want
to
ask
you
and
the
deputy
chiefs.
If
you
have
a
question
or
anything,
you
know
feel
free
to
just
raise
your
hand
or
whatever
I'll
call
on
you,
so
we
can
make
sure
you
guys
get
questions
answered
as
well.
You
have
a.
B
Yeah,
I
got
a
question
for
chris
chris:
do
you
all
find
it
problematic
with
the
social
workers
responding
with
the
police,
just
that
association
in
today's
climate
being
looked
upon
as
a
negative
thing
or
is
it
you
know?
Does
that
create
a
issue
with
that
association.
C
I
think
it
depends
on
kind
of
what
what
lens
you're
looking
at
it
through
I
mean
I've
always
been
a
fan
that
if
we
can
help
support
someone,
that's
in
crisis
in
any
way
that
mitigates
it
or
jail
is
not
the
the
end
run
and
honestly,
the
hospital,
like
that's
a
positive
and
I'd
rather
be
there.
You
know
with
the
partnership
of
police
next
to
me
than
not.
C
C
C
They
do
about,
I
think,
98
of
our
our
guys
are
actually
trained,
and
I
think
it's
just
part
of
the
standard
training
as
they
come
into
the
department.
C
You
know-
and
I
think
it's
also
you
know,
having
a
social
worker
with
you-
it's
it's
not
just
us,
taking
it
over
taking
a
call
over
and
being
able
to
mitigate
the
crisis
from
where
we're
at
we're
actually
bringing
the
officers
into
that
conversation
as
well
to
kind
of
change
that
you
know
how
the
badges
as
well
like.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
it's
a
co-response.
C
It's
it's
coming
at
this
as
how
do
we
solve
this
problem
as
a
team
and
as
a
as
a
whole
community,
and
not
just
saying
officer,
sits
back
and
doesn't
do
anything
they're
part
of
the
conversation
of
how
do
we
help
this
individual
and
we're
just
we're
just
that
we're
just
the
tool
and
instrument
to
be
able
to
do
that
with
low
barrier
and
using
our
resources
that
we
have
on
hand.
A
That's
great
great,
let's
turn,
let's
turn
to
olympia
washington.
We've
got
our
guests,
anne
larson
and
amy
king
who's
lieutenant
there.
So
could
you
talk
about
the
olympia's
crisis
response
unit
and
how
it
originated
similar
to
what
chris
just
did
with
the
program
with
the
star
sporting
environment.
D
Yeah
sure
so,
like
chris,
our
model
is
based
off
of
the
cahoots
model
from
eugene
oregon,
so
our
chief
of
police,
that
just
retired
this
past
december
was
from
eugene
and
so
had
always
had
in
the
back
of
his
mind
how
successful
the
cahoots
model
was
when
he
was
working
in
eugene
as
an
officer,
and
so
he
had
always
had
that
as
one
of
his
goals
moving
forward
when
he
became
chief
in
olympia.
D
So
in
2017,
the
olympia
police
department
and
the
city
of
olympia
put
forth
a
public
safety
levy,
and
so
they
asked
the
citizens
of
olympia
to
vote
upon
this
public
safety
levy
and
part
of
that
public
safety
levy.
Funding
was
funding
for
like
a
mobile
crisis
unit
and
my
position
and
it
passed
overwhelmingly,
and
so
it
increased
walking
patrol
officers
and
increased
neighborhood
policing
officers,
it
bolstered
our
community
court
and
then
it
created
funds,
550
000
for
a
crisis
response
unit
and
then
250
000
for
direct
services.
D
And
so
then
I
got
hired
on
by
the
olympia
police
department.
So
I'm
a
civilian
that
works
in
the
police
department
and
I
work
really
closely
with
lieutenant
king
and
we
started
to
build
what
is
now
called
the
crew,
the
crew
team,
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
eugene
as
well,
and
we
were
lucky
enough
to
have
eugene
come
up
three
times
during
our
implementation
process
and
help
us
build
our
program.
D
Something
that's
a
little
bit
different
here
in
olympia,
and
I
think
it
just
depends
on
your
jurisdiction
is
that
we
do
not
have
an
emt
riding
along
with
our
behavior
health
specialist.
It
all
comes
down
to
the
fire
department,
and
paramedics
in
our
county
can
only
work
underneath
a
fire
department
and
we
could
get
into
unions
and
all
that
kind
of
jazz.
But
I
won't
bore
you
so
we
have
two
behavioral
health
specialists
that
work
in
a
sprinter
van,
probably
similar
to
what
chris
has
which
we
got
the
specs
from
cahoots.
D
So
we
run
our
program
seven
days
a
week
from
seven
a.m.
To
nine
pm
we
are
teams
of
two,
just
probably
like
chris's
team,
but
they're,
both
behavioral
health
specialists,
and
I
mean
I
could.
I
could
echo
a
lot
of
what
chris
had
said
like
the
power
to
transport
people,
our
crew
team
members
are
on
police
radio
as
well,
and
the
way
it
works
here
in
olympia.
D
Is
they
hear
all
the
calls
for
service
that
are
happening
in
the
city
of
olympia,
where
a
city
of
a
little
over
50,
000
and
individuals
can
directly
call
9-1-1
or
not
an
emergency
dispatch
for
the
crew
team
we
have
so
they
can
get
dispatched
from
our
9-1-1
system
and
then
like
what
chris
said
a
lot
of
times.
D
Officers
are
on
a
scene
and
they'll
request
the
crew
team
over
police
radio,
and
we
also
assist
fire
a
lot,
because
a
lot
of
our
folks
that
we
serve
have
chronic
medical
conditions,
and
so
a
lot
of
our
folks
are
just
really
medically
fragile
in
olympia
and
so
we'll
get
referrals
from
fire
as
I'll.
Let
amy
jump
in.
E
Good
morning
I'm
amy
and
I
do
work
for
opd,
and
this
is
not
my
uniform
I'm
actually
on
vacation.
I
just
moved,
and
so
I
didn't
even
know
we're
gonna
be
live,
so
I
apologize
that
I'm
wearing
chris's
outfit
apparently
today,
but
at
least
it's
a
picture
of
washington.
So
that's
good
on
my
shirt
so
yeah.
E
I
am
currently
an
acting
lieutenant
and
that's
coming
to
an
end
here
soon
and
then
I'll
go
back
to
my
regular
position,
which
is
the
sergeant
and
I'm
in
charge
of
our
a
sergeant
and
I'm
in
charge
of
our
downtown
walking
patrol
and
so
prior
to
crews.
Starting
walking
patrol
was
funded
out
of
the
levy
that
anne
talked
about,
and
so
myself
and
I
have
six
officers
and
we
focus
strictly
on
our
downtown
either
walking
or
on
our
bikes.
E
We
have
a
significant
unhoused
population
in
downtown
olympia
and
in
the
larger
area
as
well,
and
I
think,
as
the
chief
talked
about
people
sleeping
in
lots
of
places
that
are
not
always
best
for
other
parts
of
the
community
or
businesses,
and
so
then,
as
chris
talked
about
getting
that
comment
about.
Oh,
you
guys
are
so
nice.
We
really
have
made
some
shifts
at
opd
and
so
kind
of
my
crew.
E
One
of
our
first
things
in
the
morning
was
to
go
down
and
start
helping
wake
people
up
in
a
nicer
gentler
way
and
helping
build
some
relationships
and
starting
connecting
them
to
services.
Knowing
that
crew
was
coming
on
board
and
then
when
crew
came
on
board,
we
did
some
some
cross-training
kind
of
helping
them
understand
police
culture
and
the
way
that
we
might
be
viewing
a
situation
or
why
we
might
be
doing
things
that
we're
doing
and
also
just
making
some
introductions
to
people.
E
You
know
denver's
huge
olympia
is
not
so
huge,
and
so
we
see
a
lot
of
the
same
people
and
and
truly
get
to
know
them.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
before
we
move
on
is
the
chief
asking
the
question
about
those
associations
between
social
workers
showing
up
with
police
officers.
E
I
can't
emphasize
enough
the
importance
of
taking
the
time
to
build
all
the
relationships.
The
relationships
with
the
people
in
the
community
that
you're
serving
the
relationships
between
officers
and
social
workers
or
emts
or
whoever
is
on
your
co-response
team
and
vice
versa.
Any
time
spent
doing
that,
whether
it's
formal
or
it's
casual
is
time
really
well
spent.
It
has
served
us
very
well
and
it's,
I
think,
served
our
community
very
well,
because
we
may
have
different
goals
at
certain
times
on
certain
calls.
A
So
one
of
the
differences
between
the
two
models
so
you're
both
using
the
cahoots
sort
of
framework
in
the
case
of
denver
they've
contracted
out
to
the
mental
health
association
that
chris,
that
chris
works
for
and
so
they've
got
that
contract
agreement
in
the
case
of
olympia,
you've
done
it
in-house.
You
had
the
levy,
and
so
the
vote
or
my
am
I
messing
that
up
man,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
people.
I
know
people
have
an
interest
in
understanding.
Their
part
of
the
police
department
is
separate
from
the
police
department.
A
A
Got
it
got
it?
Okay,
okay,
so
chris?
How?
How
did
denver
do
you
know
how
denver
went
about
paying?
For
you
know
this
program
was
it,
you
know
we
have
the
whole
defund
police
movement
right.
That's
been
going
on
that
existed
before
you
know
really
this
spring.
I
understand,
but
you
know
the
whole
focus
of
that
is
look
at
how
much
money
you're
spending
on
public
safety
can't
we
reduce
that
and
invest
more
into
prices,
counseling
or
invest
more
into
housing
and
everything
else.
That's
you
know
leading
some
of
these
problems.
C
Yeah,
actually,
in
2018
denver
passed
a
it's
called
caring
for
denver.
It
was
like
an
eighty
percent
approval
by
the
citizens.
C
It's
basically
a
twenty
percent
tax
on
every
hundred
dollars,
and
that
goes
towards
behavioral
health,
specific
programming
and
it's
not
meant
to
supplant
but
used,
be
a
creative
way
to
fill
gaps
in
our
system
through
funding
and
that
took
all
of
2019
for
them
to
slowly
get
their.
You
know,
accrue
the
the
income
and
then
right
when
we
got
back
from
eugene.
C
B
No
that
one
that
funding
question,
that
was
what
was
on
my
mind,
you
know-
was
that
a
line
item
adjustment
and
ul's
budget
or
was
it
through
some
defunding
process,
and
I
think
chris
did
a
great
job
in
that.
A
We
had
a
question
from
alexandra
that
came
in
your
question
was:
did
denver
911
dispatch
callers
need
significant
training
in
order
to
identify
the
differences
in
calls
and
dispatch.
The
appropriate
units.
C
Yeah
now
we
actually
got
the
benefit
of
having
one
of
our
our
head.
911
director,
go
up
to
eugene
and
sit
in
an
entire
day
up
in
their
comm
center
and
listen
to
the
calls
that
were
coming
in
and
figure
out
how
they
triaged
their
calls
and
cahoots
did
a
great
job
of
being
able
to
give
us
that
information
and
she
brought
it
back
to
denver
and
disseminated
it
to
all
her
individuals.
And
then
it
really
was
just
kind
of
fine-tuning
when
someone's
calling
9-1-1.
C
How
do
you
specifically
ask
questions
that
would
be
appropriate
for
a
star
response?
Additionally,
we're
because
we're
only
piloting
in
such
a
small
area
of
denver,
we
do
have
a
specific
phone
number
that
we
were
wrong
to
roll
out
to
the
entire
city
once
becomes
much
larger.
C
A
Is
there
a
belief
in
either
olympia
or
or
denver
that
if
you
get
this
kind
of
program
up
and
running,
you
can
reduce
the
amount
of
money
that
you're
spending
on
the
police
department
because
you're
shifting
away
you
know
some
of
these
or
is
it
sort
of
net
neutral
in
terms
of
probably
in
terms
of
cost?
D
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
so
I
think
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
if
you
bring
in
programs
like
this.
Are
you
going
to
have
more
calls
for
service
we're
really
just
taking
calls
for
service
that
were
already
existing
and
a
crew
response
is
going
to
be
less
expensive
than
a
law
enforcement
or
a
fire
response
a
lot
of
what
we
do.
So
we
track
how
the
how
the
call
is
dispatched
and
a
lot
of
what
we
do
is
self-initiated.
D
So
a
lot
about
the
a
lot
of
what
we
do
is
self-initiated,
which
is
you
really
want
to
prevent
someone
from
calling
9-1-1
to
begin
with,
like
that's
like
where
it's
at,
and
so
I
think
it
just
frees
up
our
officers
to
do
law
enforcement
work
and
it
it
allows
our
crew
team
to
really
engage
in
the
community
and
and
help
them
reduce
the
numbers
of
calls
to
9-1-1.
D
So
it
we're
up
and
running
officially
april
2019,
so
we
hired
folks
at
the
end
of
2018,
and
we
spent
a
good
four
months-
training
our
crew
team
members
and
really
getting
them
invest
in
the
community,
because
a
lot
of
times
calls
for
service
might
be
like
where
someone
can
get
some
coffee
or
a
shower
or
what
kind
of
resources
do
you
need
to
have
on
board?
And
so
I
know
people
think
when
they
see
the
numbers
sometimes
of
how
many
calls
for
service
that
we
go
on.
They
think.
D
Oh,
my
gosh,
like
the
city
of
olympia,
is
in
a
chronic
state
of
crisis
and
it's
really
not
because
we
work
really
hard
on
not
defining
crisis.
So
we
we,
I
think
chris
kind
of
said
it
too
is
like
how
do
you
get
to
yes
like?
How
do
we
get
to?
Yes,
when
a
law
enforcement
officer
calls
and
someone's
missing
their
shoes
is
that
you
know
criteria
for
crisis
yeah?
If
you
don't
have
shoes,
it's
it's
definitely
criteria
for
crisis,
and
so
I
think,
just
being
super
nimble
and
super
responsive.
D
I
told
my
team
from
the
get-go
if
it's
not
unethical
or,
and
it's
not
unlawful,
we're
doing
it
like,
and
I
think
that
you'll
I
think,
just
even
listening
to
chris
is
that
their
model,
too,
is
like
officers,
need
someone
that's
going
to
go
in
just
like
they're
going
to
go
in
and
they're
going
to
problem
solve
and
help
this
person
out,
and
sometimes
it
is
moving
them
from
the
location
on
the
sidewalk
to
another
public
space.
E
And,
and
from
the
police
perspective
you
know,
officers
are
so
used
to
being
the
only
response.
We've
been
the
only
response
for
so
many
years,
and
so,
if
you
know
want
to
figure
out
how
to
get
officers
to
buy
in,
it's
have
a
program
that
says
yes
have
a
program
that
finds
a
way
to
get
to
the
help.
E
That
is
needed,
because
it
only
takes
an
officer
contacting
the
crew
team
once
or
twice
and
having
them
be
able
to
take
over
and
for
them
to
be
able
to
tap
out
and
go
to
the
next
call
and
deal
with
a
law
enforcement
issue
to
make
them
firm
believers
and
to
be
on
board,
and
we,
I
think
I
don't
have
the
numbers-
and
I
don't
know
if
and
as
either,
but
I
think
we
know
certainly
anecdotally
that
officers.
I
think
chris
mentioned
this.
E
A
E
Yeah,
however,
and
so
when
crew
started,
they
really
did
just
focus
on
downtown
because
it
was
a
smaller
geographic
area.
It
was
easier
for
us
to
be
available
from
walking
patrol
and
to
make
sure
that
if
there
were
questions
or
somehow
that
we
could
just
assist
because
it
was
a
new
program,
but
they
will
respond
anywhere,
they
also
didn't
have
their
van
in
the
beginning,
and
so
going
outside
of
downtown
was
hard
because
if
they
couldn't
get
there
came
on
and
they
had
some,
they
now
respond
anywhere
within
the
city.
E
A
A
E
Hesitant,
I
think,
to
directly
dispatch
crew,
but
officers
are
really
good
at
doing
that
right
up
front
like
when
the
call
comes
out
over
the
air,
it's
not
uncommon
to
hear
an
officer,
you
know,
tell
dispatch,
can
you
see
if
crew
is
available
and
have
them
respond,
and
it
may
then
continue
to
be
a
co-response
until
it's
figured
out
that
yeah
crew
really
can
just
if
this
is
appropriate
for
them?
E
Sometimes
officers
do
respond,
because
you
know
it's
not
clear
from
the
information
coming
out
over
the
air
and
then
once
they
get
there,
they
will
call
crew.
I
know
that
because
crew
is
on
our
radio,
they're
listening
and
I
know
oftentimes,
they
start
kind
of
heading
in
the
direction
when
they
think
this
might
be
a
call.
I've
heard
them
get
on
the
air
and
tell
officers
like
oh
we're
familiar
with
that
person,
which
is
kind
of
you
know
our
way
of
of
them.
Communicating
with
officers
like
hey.
E
A
We
had
a
question
from
chelsea
and
I
think
it
would
be
similar
to
to
your
community.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
each
of
you
what
were
the
obstacles
or
the
barriers
or
the
concerns
that
people
are
expressing
in
within
your
police
department,
even
too
of
putting
these
programs
in
place
because,
prior
to
these
programs,
again
it
was
a
police
officer
that
went
out
and
handled
these
situations.
E
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
for
from
the
police
perspective
was
what
I
mentioned
and
that
officers
are
so
used
to
being
the
only
one
to
respond,
and
I
can't
count
the
number
of
times
in
the
course
of
my
career,
that
there's
been
a
new
program
and
the
promises
have
been
made
that
they're
going
to
be
there
and
they're
going
to
respond,
or
we
can
take
the
person
to
this
location.
Usually
that's
what
it
is
I've.
E
Never,
I
can't
think
of
one
where
they've
been
gonna
respond,
but
you
know
you
can
bring
them
here,
we're
24,
7
or
you
can
call,
and
someone
will
answer
and
unfortunately
that
has
never
ever
been
the
case
until
now,
and
so
I
think
when
perhaps
this
was
you
know
there
was
first
conversation
about
this.
I
think
that
was
officers
most
their
biggest
concern
was.
Is
this
just
gonna
be
another
promise
that
is
empty
and.
C
E
There
is
no
one:
that's
going
to
respond.
There's
nobody!
That's
going
to
show
up!
There's
nobody!
That's
going
to
answer
the
phone,
I'm
going
to
take
them
someplace
and
the
door
is
not
going
to
be
open,
and
so
ann
has
done
an
incredible
job
and,
and
the
crew
team
has
done
an
incredible
job
of
figuring
out
how
to
say
yes
and
how
to
show
up
and
to
problem
solve
some
really
difficult
situations,
sometimes
and
some
difficult
issues
to
try
and
and
get
figured
out.
E
I
think
that
was
probably
the
biggest
challenge
and
then
you
know,
officers
also
want
to
know
that
and
it
kind
of
is
tied
in
just
that
we
can
depend
on.
You
know
that
they're
trustworthy
and
that
they're
going
to
do
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
do
not
just
in
showing
up,
but
that
they're
going
to
truly
work
to
solve
the
problem
and
not
just
make
it
look
like
they're
working
to
solve
the
problem
so
and
that's
gone
a
very
long
way.
E
Again
it's
about
relationships,
and
there
is
a
good
relationship
between
our
crew
team
and
our
officers.
At
this
point,.
A
That's
that's
great,
so
skeptical
about
whether
the
program's
gonna
you
know
is
here
to
stay,
and
can
they
do
you
know
as
good
a
job
as
I
think
I
can
do.
You
know
responding
to
this
as
a
police
officer
chris
anything
else
to
add
in
terms
of
barriers
or
concerns
or
obstacles.
You
people
have
there
in
denver.
C
No,
I
I'd,
second,
that
there
is
definitely
the
you
know
being
able
to
be
a
resource
that
is
able
to
solve
some
of
the
things
I
think
is
like
the
second.
You
saw
one
thing
like
you're,
like
the
officers
like
spread
the
word
like
wildfire
and
that's
what
we're
able
to
utilize.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
things
from
a
lot
of
communities
and
a
lot
of
communities.
C
I've
talked
with
around
the
nation
kind
of
stuff
is
just
a
general
safety
in
us
going
to
these
things
from
a
safety
concern,
and
it's
really
trying
to
talk
with
people
is.
This
is
a
different
approach
to
how
we're
engaging
this
population
not
coming
across
as
threatening
it's
not
coming
across
in
any
kind
of
a
confrontational
way.
C
You
know
I
did
case
management
for
a
very
long
time
and
was
in
areas
of
towns
that
I've
never
been
concerned
about,
and
it's
just
being
able
to
come
in
there
with
like
kind
of
a
a
positive
attitude
and
being
able
to
really
talk
with
people
in
a
way
that's
different
than
what
they're
used
to
talking
spoken
to
and
and
and
not
being,
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
think
of
sometimes
social
workers,
the
shrinking
violets
and
these
teams
aren't
these
crisis
is
kind
of
what
we
do
and
it's
all
versions
of
crisis
and
it's
being
able
to
go
out
there
and
say
I
don't
need
to
you
know.
C
I
I'm
gonna,
make
sure
that
I
have
my
my
spider
sense
up
when
things
seem
a
little
bit
weird.
But
for
the
most
part
this
is
a
population.
That's
we're
really
good
at
working
with,
and
we're
really
good
at
engaging
and
just
in
different
creative
ways,
and
I
think
once
we
get
past
the
safety
aspect
where
people
are
like:
okay,
like
they're
they're,
okay,
they're
gonna
be
fine
on
the
scene.
They
talk
with
this
person,
that's
really
heightened
and
manic,
and
all
that
stuff.
It's
like
it's
just
a
tuesday.
A
Right,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
the
concern
right
that
I
hear
is
just
the
safety
of
you
know
our
social
officers,
because
you
know
that,
and
you
know
whether
you
can
accurately
and
appropriately
triage
through
nine
through
nine
one,
one
which
again
I
mean
it's.
These
programs,
like
you,
said
the
eugene
program
has
been
around
for
a
long
time.
It's
been
tested
and
you're
using
it
in
your
communities
and
finding
that
it's
working
well
so.
C
And
for
denver,
I
think
that's
the
unique
part
is
being
able
to
like,
even
if
it
wasn't
correctly
triaged
and
we
get
to
a
scene
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're,
like
you
know,
we're
on
the
far
end
of
like
what
we're
willing
to
be
able
to
like.
You
know,
tolerate
and
deal
with
and
work
with.
If
we
get
to
that
point
where
we're
just
like
now
we're
a
little
concerned,
we
have
our
partnership
to
be
able
to
key
up
and
say:
hey.
C
Can
I
have
an
officer
just
for
backup
and
that
trust
and
that
relationship
allows
them
to
come
in
and
know
what
we're
doing,
but
also
be
there
to
kind.
C
As
well
so
you
know,
it
is
definitely
a
partnership,
that's
positive
and
and
needed
good.
I.
A
Know
we're
coming
up
on
an
hour
and
I
so
appreciate
you
spending
time.
I'm
gonna
give
the
chief
the
last
question
before
I
wrap
it
up
so
chief:
go
ahead:
you're,
muted,
chief.
B
Thank
you.
I'm
sorry
I'd
like
to
know
from
each
of
the
panelists
how
how
are
you
all
measuring
success?
Is
it
a
mix
of
quantitative
and
qualitative
analysis?
B
Is
it
on
the
police
side
or
reduction
in
the
number
of
calls
for
service,
as
opposed
to
when
you
didn't
have
a
social
work
partnership
can?
Can
you
all
elaborate
on
that?
A
little.
C
Yeah,
so
from
from
our
side,
I
think
it's
twofold.
You
know
the
city
of
denver
wants
to
see
a
reduction
in
officers
having
to
go
to
calls
and
they
want
to
see
you
know
how
often
were
we
did.
We
have
the
the
least
needed
mean
attached
to
it
to
still
solve
the
problem,
the
social
worker
in
mia.
It's
how
many
people
are
we
trying?
Are
we
successful
in
connecting
to
the
next
step
that
kind
of
progresses
their
life
in
a
positive
way?
C
Whether
that
is
just
not
only
resolution
of
the
immediate
problem,
but
are
we
connecting
people
with
services?
Are
we
getting
them
into
substance
abuse
options?
Are
we
connecting
them
with
some
version
of
a
social
support?
I
think
that's
what
keeps
people
feeling
like
they
have
connection
in
a
community
and
also
takes
that.
Hopefully,
9-1-1
is
not
the
go-to
all
the
time.
Instead,
it's
my
therapist,
it's
my
peer.
It's
my
whatever
that
looks
like
to
be
able
to
like
reduce
the
likelihood
that
9-1-1
is
the
immediate
go-to
and
or
the
social
community
aspect.
D
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
just
echoing
what
chris
said
as
we
track
the
amount
of
time
we're
on
calls
as
well.
So
we
can
show
that,
like
you
know,
we
can
spend
an
hour
two
hours
three
hours
with
a
client
where
law
enforcement.
Really
I
mean
there
there's.
D
There
are
so
many
calls
for
service
that
they
really
need
to
like
respond,
resolve
clear,
you
know,
and
so
we're
able
to
spend
a
lot
more
time.
We
also
have
a
program
here
called
familiar
faces
which
our
crew
team
can
refer
into,
which
has
peers
so
folks
with
lived
experience
and
incarceration
addiction,
mental
health,
and
so,
if
we're
responding
to
the
same
person
frequently,
we
can
refer
them
to
another
opd
program
and
really
do
that.
Work
that
lieutenant
king
always
says
is
like.
We
can
always
find
solutions
that
work.
D
But
what
about
solutions
that
last?
And
it
really
is
connecting
people
to
their
community?
Have
someone
walk
alongside
with
them
because
there's
a
lot
of
resources
but
folks
have
a
lot
of
it's
hard
to
navigate
even
if
you're
housed
and
have
a
car
it's
hard
to
navigate
the
systems
that
we
have
in
place.
A
E
Yeah,
the
only
thing
I
could
add
is
I
refer
to
data
as
kibbles
and
bits
and
it's
my
least
favorite
thing,
but
I
know
it's
what
everyone
wants
and
is
important.
I
like
the
stories-
and
it's
it's
always
hard
for
me
to
you-
know,
put
into
a
data
point
the
relationships
that
I
see
that
have
been
built
and
the
changes
in
people's
lives
or
in
their
interactions
with
whether
it's
the
police
or
it's
our
crew
team
and
their
response.
E
You
know
those
are
the
things
that
I
think
make
lasting
change.
I
think
change
happens
within
community,
and
so
I
like
to
focus
on
building
that
community
and
I
know
we
need
to
have
data
to
support
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
always
my
gut
tells
me
this
is
working.
This
is
I've
never
seen
anything
like
this
in
the
course
of
my
career
that
has
worked
in
the
way
that
this
has,
and
so
I
don't
always
have
a
number.
We
do
keep
track.
E
A
Okay,
well,
I
want
I
want
you
have
one
more
question:
deputy
chief
go
ahead.
D
So
you
know
we
had
community
buy-in
and
law
enforcement
buy-in
which
from
the
get-go,
so
our
chief
was
on
board
and
our
community
was
on
board.
So
I
mean
we
did
an
rfp.
You
know
we
did
stakeholder
meetings,
we
did
officer
surveys
once
we
picked
our
provider,
we
were
really
up
and
running
within.
D
I
would
say
five
months,
but
you
really
do
need
to
spend
a
lot
of
that
time.
Building
up
and
building
we
are.
D
I
was
implemented
or
embedded
in
the
police
department,
so
I
wasn't
this
stranger
coming
in
promising
things
without
connections
without
relationships,
and
so
I
could
send
you
all,
like
the
budgets
and
the
rfps,
and
you
know
officer
surveys
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
recreate
it,
but
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
figuring
out
what
was
going
to
work
for
us
and
how
and
how
to
implement
it.
A
C
Well,
I
think
our
co-responder
team,
we
it
was
slow
and
intentional
just
to
be
able
to
get
that
buy-in
and
then
over
time
we
were
able
to
expand
it
really
intentionally
and
then
the
star
program,
just
being
on
the
backs
of
that
I
mean
we
could
have
stood
that
up
the
next
day,
just
because
we
had
to
buy
it
immediately.
A
Well,
we're,
I
know
we're
up
at
our
hour
and
I
just
a
big
big
thank
you
to
chris
richardson
of
the
star
program
in
denver
to
lieutenant
amy
king
and
ann
larson
with
the
olympia
crew,
the
crisis
response
unit
team
there
I
I
know,
I'm
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
positive
things
from
people
in
the
community,
I'm
already
seeing
some
of
the
feedback
on
facebook
that
we
really
appreciate
both
of
you
and
your
cities
taking
time
with
us
here
in
evanston.
I
know
we're
not
alone.
A
There
are
many
cities
out
there
taking
a
hard
look
at
you
know.
What's
the
best
way
to
you
know
manage
you,
know
mental
health
issues
in
the
community
homelessness
issues
on
the
community
and
obviously
our
police
chief
and
the
two
deputies
just
spent
an
hour
here
on
this
they're
very
committed
as
well
to
a
full
examination
of
all
of
this
and
figuring
out
what's
best
for
evanston.
So
I
thank
you
both
or
all
three
of
you
for
joining
us.
A
I
want
to
thank
patrick
degnan,
who
works
behind
the
scenes,
but
helps
put
on
all
of
these
sessions,
along
with
anderson,
castillo
we're
going
to
meet
again
next
monday
will
be
our
last
in
the
series
on
policing
here
in
evanston,
and
that
will
be
at
noon
with
some
youth
in
the
community,
who
will
be
having
a
frank
and
honest
conversation
about
policing
here
with
them,
so
until
then
be
well
everyone,
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.