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A
Good
morning
the
august
30th
meeting
of
the
referrals
committee
will
come
to
order.
Could
you
call
the
role
please
ms
darling.
A
A
A
The
first
on
the
list
in
front
of
me
and
the
today's
are
all
from
council
member
burns.
The
first
on
the
list
in
front
of
me
relates
to
anti-displacement
and
anti-gentrification
efforts,
a
referral
to
create
a
here
to
stay
task
force.
C
I'm
happy
to
start
actually,
so
I
did
not
score
this
one,
because
we
had
the
same
conversation
last
time
about
making
a
task
force.
I
mean
making
a
this
is
a
task
force,
so
maybe
I
wrong,
but
a
subcommittee
that
would
need
me
by
whatever
committee
it
came
out
of,
but
maybe
I'm
wrong
since
the
task
force.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that
in
this
referral
committee
or
that
needs
to
be
done
elsewhere.
I.
A
I
did
score
it,
but
I
was
perplexed
in
the
same
way.
You
know
I
I
this
could
be
a
committee
could
create
a
subcommittee
of
I
suppose
I
could
appoint
a
a
special
committee
or
something
I'm
not
sure
that
we
would
need
a
resolution
to
create
a
task
force,
which
is
what
this
as
a
referral,
would
seem
to
be
councilman
revel.
Do
you
have
any
reaction
to
that
question?.
D
Well
with
the
subcommittee
that
was
basically
going
to
be
part
of
planning
and
development,
there
was
a
logical
committee
to
move
ahead
and
approve
the
subcommittee,
so
I
guess
the
question
is
that
what
is
there
an
existing
committee
that
for
whom
this
would
be
a
logical
subcommittee?
I
don't
know
human
services
well,.
A
D
C
But
that
started
off
of
the
conversation
we
had
in
human
services
and
human
services
right.
We
had
a
few
conversations
and
we
decided
it
was
kind
of
too
much
for
human
services.
So
we
made
a
subcommittee
so
yeah.
I
thought
they've
always
been
either
the
mayor
made
them
or
they
came
out
of
another
committee
that
made
this
kind
of
short-term
task
force.
Or
what
have
you?
So
I
thought
this
might
be
a
good
one
for
either
p
d
or
for
the
affordable
housing
committee.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
make
a
committee
of
committees.
C
That
seems
a
little
confusing
and
I
know
if
the
affordable
housing
committee
has
had
some
frustrations
with
you
know
their
members
just
and
with
the
pace
of
things.
So
I
don't
know
that
they're
interested
in
taking
on
something
else,
but
it
definitely,
I
guess,
in
my
mind,
did
not
seem
like
the
work
of
this
referral
committee.
Okay,.
D
A
A
A
So
my
reaction
to
this
was
wow.
I
thought
that
there
was
a
kind
of
a
clear
commitment
made
to
do
this
at
the
council
meeting
that
occurred
in
early
july
early
july
right
and
so
go
ahead.
B
A
And
can
you
just
speak
to
the
timing
I
mean
in
terms
of
when
that
would
be
ready
and
as
the
plan
then
to
make
that
a
special
order
of
business,
so
it
could
go
quickly.
B
The
tif
is
going
to
be
in
front
of
the
council
in
september.
I'm
not
sure
how
fast
we
can
do
this,
but
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
a
time
frame
that
aligns
with
that.
But
if
not
I'll,
let
you
know.
A
C
Okay
or
maybe
even-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
I'm
not
a
tif
supporter,
but
even
if
this
is
possible
to
say
in
the
tif
excluding
the
park,
I
mean
I,
I
talked
to
council
burns
about
this
because
it's
as
you
know,
a
county
function
to
separate
pins,
but
maybe
we
can
also
put
some
language
in
the
tift
of
minus
the
park,
which
will
be
you
know,
separated
at
the
county
by
the
end
of
the
year
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
know
I'm
not
a
tif
expert.
A
C
A
Saying
confidently:
is
the
tif
shouldn't
be
up
and
running
before
these
things
are
separated?
What
that
says
about
the
the
procedural
questions
and
the
order
of
operations
is
not
something
that
I
feel
knowledgeable
enough
to
speak
to,
but.
C
D
Well,
my
understanding,
the
clock
is
ticking
in
terms
of
our
need
to
approve
or
not
approve
the
tif.
We
have
to
do
it
by
the
end
of
september
so
and
I
and
my
interest
in
making
sure
that
the
park
is
clearly
going
to
remain
a
park.
Is
you
know
we're
talking
about
a
23-year
tif
and
this
council
and
the
next
council
will
be
remembering
that?
Yes,
this
is
sacred
parkland,
but
20
years
from
now
you
know
people's
ideas
might
change,
and
so
so
we
do
want
to
make
codify
this
somehow.
A
The
question
that
that
a
council
member
who
is
inclined
to
vote
yes
on
the
tiff
but
concerned
about
this
issue
is
confronted
with,
is
the
question
of
does
the
final
vote
on
the
separation
of
the
parcels
need
to
occur
first
and
that's
a
conversation
for
council
members
to
have
with
the
you
know,
with
those
who
are
advocating
for
the
tiff
and
looking
for
five
votes,
but
I
think,
just
as
you
indicate
that
it's
hard
to
trust
a
hypothetical
council
16
years
from
now
to
remember
these
conversations
we're
having
now
someone
might
even
take
a
more
aggressive
posture
and
say
I
don't
trust
anything,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
the
tif
until
this
is,
and
so
if
people
say
that
that'll
go
into
the
calculation
about
how
quickly
this
separation
would
have
to
move
from
the
point
of
view
of
those
who
are
trying
to
pass
the
tif.
A
But
anyway,
I
think
we've
gotten
clarity
from
staff
that
it's
moving
as
fast
as
it
can
and
that's.
I
think
that
that
means
that
our
work
here
is
done.
Does
anything
you
want
dad.
B
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
we
can
put
a
resolution
on
the
council
agenda
for
the
13th,
acknowledging
that
there
is
a
desire
for
the
park
to
remain
a
park
and
by
the
passage
of
that
resolution.
That
may
alleviate
some
concerns
about
this
topic,
but
it
is
possible,
I'm
just
not
able
to
say
it
absolutely
will
happen.
A
And
just
to
help
me
understand
the
timing.
The
tiff
would
require
two
votes
correct
correct,
so
the
real
deadline
is
not
the
13th,
but
the
27th.
Okay.
A
All
right
that
brings
us
to
eviction
notification,
so
the
passage
of
an
ordinance
requiring
landlords
to
notify
the
health
and
human
services
department
about
an
eviction
30
days
in
advance.
C
A
Agree
with
my
own
score
here,
but
go
ahead.
Oh.
C
These
might
be
out
of
order
on
the
sheet,
because
anyway,
policy,
three
goals,
one
and
interest,
two
for
a
score
of
nine.
A
And
so
yeah,
so
the
two
of
you
agreed
for
most
of
them
and
then
the
one
where
you
didn't
quite
agree.
Council
member
fleming,
said
one
for
community
interests
and
council
members
said
two
and
I
will
say
I
do
agree
with
the
two
for
that.
A
So
let's
just
go
with
everything
you
agreed
with
on
the
four
you
agreed
and
then
with
I'll
just
I'll
be
the
tiebreaker
and
the
one
where
you
had
a
slight
disagreement,
and
so
that
gives
it
a
one
for
time,
sensitivity
a
two
for
scope,
a
three
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
two
for
community
interest
and
two
for
goals
and
priorities,
adding
up
to
a
10.
C
C
To
be
right,
I
don't
I
mean
I've
only
been
to
one
mw,
ebe
committee
meeting
so
far
as
a
new
member
and
we
haven't
had
a
whole
long
data
discussion,
but
it
seems
like
sharon
will
be
capable
of
doing
this
without
right,
an
entire
policy
right
me,
but
I
did
score
it
since
it's
here.
So
I
gave
it
a
three
for
time,
two
for
scope,
three
for
policy
two
for
interest,
although
maybe
it's
the
one
but
and
then
one
for
goal.
So
a
score
of
11.
D
And
I
had
a
a
three
for
time:
sensitivity:
a
two
for
scope,
a
two
for
existing
policy;
a
two
for
community
interest
and
a
two
for
goals
and
priorities
which.
D
I
agree
with
council
member
fleming
that
this
this
in
the
normal
pre-referral
days.
This
would
have
just
been
you
know,
come
up
during
the
committee
discussion
and.
A
A
I
agree
with
that
is
erica.
Is
there
a
reason
why
this
is?
I
mean?
I
think
it's
obvious.
This
is
a
good
idea.
Right
like
we
can
all
we
can
all
agree
what's
beneficial
about
this.
Is
there
a
reason
why
it's
difficult
to
either
gather
the
data
this
way
or
keep
the
data
in
this
way
or
report
the
data
in
this
way.
B
D
C
And
I
think
the
other
part
just
from
my
tracking
of
this
kind
of
issues
is
that
we
well
sharon
knows
who
she's
referring
to
job
sites
based
on
her
pool
of
people.
So
she
can,
you
know,
do
some
more
data
collection
there,
but
when
employers
are
telling
us
they've,
hired
x,
y
and
z,
I
would
just
be
concerned.
C
But
then
are
they
guessing?
So
if
you
fill
out,
if
I
fill
an
application-
and
I
don't
write
my
race
on
there
and
then
the
employee
needs
to
then
say:
okay
as
a
contractor
of
the
city
of
evanston,
I
have
this
many
minorities
and
I
haven't
disclosed
my
race.
I
mean,
obviously
you
can
guess,
but
he
might
not
actually
know-
and
I
might
be
too
far
down
in
the
weeds
there,
but
wouldn't
wouldn't
the.
C
A
All
right:
well,
I
think
we
can
alright.
So
let's
hold
back
from
doing
anything,
referral
wise
here
and
see
if
we
can
just
spur
this
to
occur,
but
it
does
seem
like
it
should
occur.
I
mean
it
seems
like
the
use
of
the
word.
C
So
I
gave
that
one
a
three
for
time
and
three
for
scope,
three
for
policy,
one
for
interest
and
a
three
for
go
at
a
13..
I
also
will
say
that
I
think
this
is
one
that
I
mean
I
feel
like.
We
do
this
already,
there's,
probably
not
a
very
clear
policy
on
how
we
do
it,
because
I
know
we've
done
it
before
from
my
record
lesson
from
human
services
and
from
affordable
housing
funds.
So
we
probably
do
need
some
clarity
around
that.
C
I
think
my
question
I
wasn't
sure
about
is
this
is
talking
about
just
creating
a
whole
separate
fund
of
money.
I
assume,
but
I
would
hope
that
we
also
are
going
to
make
a
policy
to
go
around
how
we
who
qualifies
and
how
long
you
can
stay
in
the
hotel
and
all
those
kind
of
things,
because
I
know
this
has
been
different.
People
have
gotten
different
allotments
of
hotel
funding,
so
I
would
like
a
policy
more
so
than
the
fund.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
talked
with
councilmember
burns
about
this
today
and
I
I
also
helped
him
intervene
to
find
some
funding
to
house
family
members
of
of
of
victims
of
a
crime
just
just
a
few
months
ago,
and
I
think
he's
sort
of
I
think,
you're
very
much
speaking
his
language,
that
there
doesn't
there's
neither
a
set-aside
pool
of
money
nor
a
clear-
or
at
least
in
his
experience,
clarity
to
the
policy,
and
we
probably
ought
to
have
both.
A
You
know
my
question
for
him
was:
do
we
need
a
in
the
legal
sense,
a
new
city
fund,
because
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
why
that
would
be
the
case
either,
and
you
know
it
seemed
like
his
inclination
was
yes,
but
again,
I
think
the
the
greater
the
the
more
urgent
question
here
is:
do
we
have
a
clear
policy
that
can
be
applied
consistently
and
access
to
adequate
funding
to
implement
that
policy?.
D
I
gave
it
a
quote
better
score
for
time
sensitivity
because
I
I
mean
this
could
be
should
probably
be
part
of
the
budget,
just
budget
discussion
potentially,
if,
if
we're
talking
about
either
creating
a
new
fund
or
making
sure
there's
enough
money
in
our
existing
emergency
funds,
so
I
gave
it
a
2
for
time,
sensitivity
and
a
2
for
scope
and
a
2
or
a
3
for
existing
policy,
a
1
for
community
interest
and
a
2
or
a
3
for
goals
and
priorities,
kind
of
a
little
wishy-washy.
There.
A
Well,
what's
particularly
aggravating
is
that
for
the
two
or
you
gave
it
a
two
or
a
three
one
of
us
gave
it
a
two,
and
one
of
us
gave
it
to
three,
so
we're
truly
on
the
on
the
fence
here.
So
I
I
give
it
a
it's
quote
better
score
than
both
of
you.
Actually,
I
give
it
also
a
two
for
two
for
time
sensitivity.
A
I
give
it
a
one
for
scope,
which
seems
to
be
completely
out
of
left
field
compared
to
everyone
else.
So
I
acknowledge
that
I
gave
it
a
two
for
a
connection
to
existing
policy,
a
two
for
community
interest
and
a
two
also
for
alignment
with
our
goals
and
priorities
which
added
up
to
a
nine
which
is
sort
of
not
where
not
where
everybody
else
was
really.
A
Yeah,
roughly
so
I
mean,
if
we
sort
of
average
things
out,
it
gets
a
two-for-time
sensitivity,
a
two
for
scope.
A
I
don't
know
I
mean,
I
guess,
a
three
for
connection
to
goals
and
priorities,
and
that
gives
it
an
11.
D
A
A
Yeah,
I
also
don't
know
what
it
means.
Do
you
know
what
it
means
erica.
B
I
think
where
is
coming
from
from
this
is:
if
there
was
some
kind
of
official
partnership
between
the
two
entities,
then
it
might
be
more
feasible
for
shorefront
to
obtain
grant
funding
for
certain
things.
I
also
know
that
there
was
some
interest
in
having
some
kind
of
exhibit.
Potentially
it
gives
morrison
or
something
else,
so
these
are
just
conversations
that
I've
had
with
councilmember
burns.
A
And
I
mean
that
makes
sense,
except
is
there
a
relation?
I
mean
obviously
there's
a
there's,
a
sort
of
inform.
Is
there
a
do
they
do
this?
Well,
no,
I
mean,
I
guess
you
know
we
entered
an
mou
if
there's
an
agreement,
to
share
the
responsibility
to
provide
services
or
provide
one
service
in
exchange
for
another
or
if
money
is
changing
hands,
but
is
there
a
thing
that's
occurring
in
the
relationship
between
the
city
and
shore
front
legacy
that
fits
any
of
those
categories
that
might
require
formalization.
B
That's
what
we
would
need
to
find
out.
What
exactly
is
the
mou
going
to
bind
both
parties
to?
I
don't
know
that.
There's
any
pressing
need
at
this
point,
but
I
could
just
be
unaware
so
more
direction
from
this.
The
alternative
it
could
be.
We
could
just
put
it
on
an
agenda
at
some
future
date
discuss
previous
partnerships.
The
two
entities
have
had
and
then
discuss
what
potential
future
partnerships
could
exist
or
could
be
and
maybe
get
more
direction
then
or
get
more
direction
now
and
then
maybe
make
it
easier
to
prioritize.
C
C
A
Okay
and
then
lastly,
it
leads
us
to
the
lead,
pipe
replacement
workforce
program.
C
So
I
gave
that
one
a
three
for
time:
a
three
for
scope,
a
one
for
a
policy,
a
two
for
interest
and
one
for
goal.
So
a
score
of
ten.
D
C
D
D
Three
for
exist,
two
exit
for
existing
policy,
two
for
community
interest
and
one
for
goals
and
priorities-
and
I
did
happen
to
have
a
conversation
with
aina
gutierrez
at
rebuilding
warehouse,
so
the
lead
pipe
replacement
job
is
a
union
job.
So
I
don't
know
how
that
fits
into
this
so
anyway,
she's
talking
about
some
kind
of
I
think,
maybe
coming
to
us
for
arpa
funds
to
do
some
kind
of
workforce
training
around
around
this
issue.
A
Got
it
so?
I
also
gave
it
a
one
for
time
sensitivity,
not
only
because
of
what
you
said,
but
also
because
of
the
other
thing
you
said,
which
is
that
I
think
this
fits
really
critically
into
the
arpa
discussion.
I
also
gave
it
a
three
for
scope.
It
is
a
huge
project,
great
project,
but
huge
project,
one
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
two
for
community
interest
and
one
for
goals
and
priorities,
which
adds
up
to
an
eight.
A
And
you
know
I
did
ask
I
asked
councilmember
burns
kind
of:
is
this
already
underway,
meaning
that
I
heard
you
know?
I
know
that
the
the
economic
development
committee
was
talking
about
stuff
like
this
in
connection
with
her
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
allocate
the
arp
funding
and
his
reaction
was
sort
of
no.
It
was
exactly
your
point
that,
because
these
are
these
are
union
jobs,
there's
a
whole
kind
of
different
process
that
that
we
would
need
that
we
would
need
to
engage
with.
A
So
I
don't
know
eric
if
you
have
any
reaction
to
sort
of
where
this
I
mean,
if
we
really
wanted
this
is
not
sort
of
a
you
know,.
A
This
is
not
like
a
oh,
it's
a
big
project
and
if
it's
too
much
we'll
do
it
halfway
thing
I
mean
this
is
either
kind
of
go
all
in
on
this
effort,
or
don't
I
mean,
do
you
have
thoughts
about
where
it
would
live,
how
it
would
interact
with
the
existing,
presumably
state,
mandated
way
that
this
work
is
bid
out
and
all
that.
B
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this
with
staff,
I
know
that
there
is
a
broader
discussion
about
lead,
pipe
replacement
that
will
come
to
the
council
in
september
october.
I
can't
remember
which,
but
as
we
prepare
the
budget
for
next
year,
understanding
how
much
we're
going
to
try
to
attempt
to
make
progress
on
this
and
how
much
the
city
council
would
like
us
to
attempt
to
make
progress
on.
This
will
be
key
to
setting
that
budget
for
next
year.
B
A
A
A
A
A
C
C
C
Is
it
hsc
or
apw?
We
usually
do
hr
stuff
at
hsc.
B
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
human
services
makes
sense.
So
let's
do
that
then
this
is
the
one
about
the
corporation
council
being
appointed
by
council.
That
obviously
has
rules
again.
I
assume
speaking.
C
A
If
I'm
messing
up
here,
then
there's
the
evidence
and
voter
initiative
process
also
rules
so
now.
Well
now
we
arrive
at
two
days
and
I'm
only
going
to
go
over
the
ones
that
we
did
score.
A
A
A
D
A
Right
right,
it's
missing
out
on
the
just
the
both
the
mechanisms
that
we
use
today
in
our
public
works
department,
as
well
as
the
kind
of
interacting
with
the
union
regulations
right,
so
I
hate
to
have
a
whole
big,
detailed
thing,
an
economic
development.
That
concludes
let's
do
this
and
have
that
siloed
off
from
all
of
the
sort
of
anybody
who
controls
the
logistical
logistical
questions
that
could
really
get
in
the
way
here.
C
C
A
A
So
that
brings
us
we've.
Now.
We've
had
scoring
conversations
and
kind
of
venue
conversations
about
everything.
A
You
know
I'm
I'm
happy
to
go
through
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
we
want
to
kind
of
make
a
timeline
recommendation
for
that
we
didn't
so
far,
but
I'm
I'm
conscious
of
the
extent
of
the
backlog
that
we
that
that's
accumulated
here.
C
A
Took
go
ahead,
council.
C
I
took
several
so
I
wanted
to
remind
myself
what
those
were
so
and
what
I
did
was
I
talked
to.
I
think
I
had
most
councilman
remember
burns,
so
I
spoke
to
him
to
get
clarity.
Then
I
spoke
to
the
committee
chairs
and
then
I
sent
an
email,
so
I
have
review
of
landlord
tenant
process,
so
I
send
an
email
to
dave
because
he's
the
staff
for
apnw
and
peter
or
councilmember
braithwaite
anyways
like
this,
is
what
the
referral
is.
Please
prioritize
it.
It's
been
on
this
for
a
while.
C
These
are
things
that
were
requested
in
the
staff
memo
and
then
the
same
with
the
mwe
local
hiring
requirement
sent
that
one
also
to
sharon,
and
then
I
think
I
had
one
more,
which
was
oh,
the
landlord
attendant
process.
I
had
forgotten
johanna
knight
and
then
that
one
she
said
that
that
was
going
to
be
coming
before
us
for
the
affordable
housing
meeting
on
9
20.,
so
that
one
actually
is
on
the
calendar
and
then
the
last
one
was
from
council
member
kelly
that
had
to
do
with
the
no
raising
the
property
taxes.
C
So
I
got
that
one
to
also
apnw
what
I
sent
it
to
them
and
also
copied
attached,
because
she
wanted
a
very
simple
memo
which
was
just
talked
about,
like
you
know,
five
or
ten
years
worth
of
property
tax
increases
and
what
those
amounts
have
been
so,
and
I
also
asked
them
to
prioritize
that
also
taken
in
consideration
the
budget
conversations
that
were
coming
up,
but
hopefully
that
one
can
be
pretty
fast,
since
the
memo
was
essentially
just
should
be
kind
of
cut
and
faced
from
some
kind
of
data
spreadsheet.
C
D
Right
so
so
I
I
sent
an
email
to
the
chair
nguyen
and
johanna
knighton
and
I
heard
from
johanna
about
the
status
of
the
force,
so
the
board
of
policy
she's
been
in
communication
with
councilmember
burns
and
that's
kind
of
in
progress.
So
there
were
two
that
were
like
that
in
progress.
What's
the
next
one.
A
We
still
don't
okay
great
so
I
had
two
committees:
one
was
parks
and
rec
board.
This
was
the
referral
to
create
an
urban
farm
on
the
parcel
adjacent
to
twix
park.
A
A
So
there
were
two
one
was
the
bearing
of
com,
ed
transmission
lines,
and
one
was
options
to
make
downtown
episodes
more
walkable
economic
development
is
meeting
very
very
soon.
Of
course,
those
won't
make
it
onto
that
meet
that
agenda,
but
there
seemed
to
be
a
lot
of
openness
to
put
these
on
an
agenda
very
soon,
perhaps
even
the
next
meeting
that
occurs
after
the
one
that
I
guess
is
maybe
tomorrow
or
something
so
I
can.
I
can
sort
of
check
back
in
on
those
which
were
those
were
more
sort
of.
A
A
Is
there
anything
else
substantive?
We
want
to
talk
about
today.
C
A
B
Right,
I
mean,
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
this
a
couple
of
different
ways.
The
first
is
refining
the
front
end
of
the
process
like
is
there
a
better
way
to
put
the
referrals
in
potentially
have
staff
look
at
them
before
they
come
to?
You
gather
additional
information
so
that
once
you
guys
meet,
you
can
actually
make
a
decision
about
them
because
there's
all
the
information
is
there
that
you
need
versus
having
them
put
into
a
system.
B
Nobody
looks
at
them
and
then
you
have
to
make
a
decision
or
score
them
based
on
some
incomplete
information.
Then
there's
the
second
part
of
that
which
is
a
lot
of
these
referrals
when
they
come
in.
There
should
be
some
conversation
between
the
person
making
the
referral
and
staff
so
that
there
is
some
concept
of
what's
trying
to
be
achieved
and
that
once
that
concept
has
been
refined,
then
you
can
put
it
in
the
you
can
put
the
referral
in
knowing
exactly
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
get
to
like
the
short
front
thing.
B
That's
a
good
example
like
that
should
be
like.
I
know
we've
staffs
have
conversations
about
that,
but
what
we
received
wasn't
you
know
completely
flushed
out
and
similar
to
the
board
up
policy.
The
you
know
the
board
up
policy
has
been
in
discussions
with
council
member
burns
and
several
different
departments
for
months.
B
So
I
think,
as
this
continues
to
evolve,
we
can
refine
both
the
front
end
process
and
the
back
end
process.
You
know
once
something's
been
prioritized,
it
would
be
ideal
if
you
could
get
on
an
agenda
within
the
next
couple
of
months.
I
just
now
that
we've
got
the
such
a
backlog
of
things
and
they're
all
important.
B
There's
realistically,
just
not
any
time
slots
to
talk
about
some
of
these
things
that,
especially
at
p
d
and
apw.
Some
of
the
other
committees
have
some
capacity.
But
so
we
have
to
just
also
set
an
expectation
that,
if
you
put
a
referral
in
today,
the
likelihood
is
it's
probably
not
going
to
get
to
tilly
after
the
first
of
the
year,
and
that's
just
based
on
the
fact
that
we
have.
B
A
And
I
think
all
that
I
mean
all
that's
really
important
kind
of
advice.
I
guess
I'm
not.
I
have
no
commentary
on
the
speed,
it's
more
a
question
of
the
automation
right,
so
I
think
I
think
to
system
councilmember
fleming's
point
it's
at
what
point?
Can
she
sort
of
let
go
and
know
that
hey?
It
might
not
be
on
the
agenda
until
2027
right
we're
going,
but
it's
on
like
it's
just
in
the
queue
it's
gonna
happen.
It's
not
gonna
get
bummed,
it's
not
get
forgotten.
It's
just
gonna.
A
It's
gonna
appear
on
an
agenda
as
soon
as
possible
and
not
get
sort
of
shunted
aside
or
or
or
need
continued
negotiation,
because
I
think
her
point
is
if
there's
like
eight
different
times
that
we've
gotta
check
in
and
negotiate
nudge.
That
becomes
a
burden,
whereas
if
there
is
one
or
perhaps
two
times
it's
a
totally
manageable
thing.
So
that's
that's
the
question
it's
kind
of
when
it
becomes
a
done
deal
that
we
can
just
sort
of
blissfully
declared
to
be
somebody
else's
problem.
B
Once
it's
been
greenlighted
to
be
prioritized
from
the
referrals
committee
and
that
communication
has
taken
place
between
the
committee
and
the
committee
chair
of
whatever
committee,
it's
going
to
that's
the
point
in
which
I
think
you
can
successfully
say
it's
been
handed
off
once
it's
in
the
committee
chair's
hands.
It's
up
to
the
committee
chair
to
get
it
on
the
agenda
in
conjunction
with
staff.
C
C
Talking
to
the
committee,
not
committee
chairs,
talking
to
the
council
member
put
the
referral
in
kind
of
fleshing
it
out
is
helpful
for
me
because
I've
heard
it
directly
from
them
and
then
maybe
we
just
don't
have
you
know
they
know
it's
going
to
the
referral
committee
versus
whatever
they
might
be
thinking
and
then
so
I'm
happy
to
do
that
legwork
and
then
do
the
scoring
here
and
all
the
stuff
we
do
here
and
then
passing
it
to
somebody
who
then
is
going
to
work
with
committee
chair.
C
You
know
passing
a
complete
project
off
to
the
committee
chair
and
the
staff
who
are
then
going
to
follow
it
through,
because
I
think
some
committee
chairs
are
going
to
be
more
aggressive
and
say:
okay,
these
things
are
in
the
hopper.
Let
me
get
them
on
the
agenda.
Some
community
chairs,
quite
frankly,
are
just
going
to
wait
for
your
office.
To
say
here
are
five
things.
You
need
to
go
on
the
next
agenda
right
that
we
just
have
different
skill
sets
and
timing.
B
Right
and
I
mean
for
people
who
are
watching
at
home,
you
know
we
put
out
the
friday
packet
every
friday.
It
has
what's
coming
up
on
future
agendas,
trying
to
get
all
parties
to
put
all
items
in
there
as
soon
as
they're,
aware
of
them.
So
we
have
an
expectation
of
what's
coming
down
the
pipe
for
the
next
three
months.
B
C
So
so
what
if
we
did
this,
because
I
mean
I
look
at
the
friday
city
managers
report-
for
probably
most
average
americans
are
not
looking
at,
and
I
had
asked
in
my
last
time
like
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
have
a
link
for
in
the
referrals
committee.
Just
that
one
piece
so
people
who
are
paying
attention
kind
of
know
that
there's
a
flow
of
things,
but
does
it
make
sense
when
we're
then
kind
of
sending
things
out
of
this
committee
to
send
it
to?
Whoever
is
also
doing.
C
I
don't
know
who
compiles
that
piece
of
it
but
send
it
to
someone
who
can
then
pop
these
in
there,
so
that
they
are
actually
on
the
queue
and
on
the
waiting.
You
know
like
out
of
our
spreadsheet
and
somewhere
else,
and
if
we
need
to
keep
doing
the
like
nudging
of
the
committee
members,
we
can't.
I
just
don't
know
how
much
say
I
have
and
what
you
know,
councilmember
kelly's
putting
on
her
agenda.
A
Yeah
I
mean
at
the
risk
of
putting
you
know
at
the
risk
of
having
an
unorchestrated
conversation
and
then
maybe
paying
for
it
later.
I
I
want
to
you
know,
also
say,
as
I
did
to
a
few
weeks
ago,
we
just
hired
a
policy
coordinator,
who
I
think
I
don't
know.
I
can't
speak
to
the
back
end
of
the
technical
process
and
what
the
right
kind
of
parceling
out,
of
which
exact
kind
of
technical
step
to
whom
is.
But
I
think
that's
a
person
who
I
would
hope
could
be
very
helpful
in
this
process.
A
C
C
We
have
this,
but
again
everyone's
not
paying
attention,
and
so
maybe
we
can
start
working
on
like
an
ideal
flow
chart
and
happy
to
work
with
ally
on
this,
but
an
ideal
flow
chart
for
everyone,
because
I
think
in
speaking
to
council
member
burns,
I
think
I
spoke
to
him
about
something
you
had
spoken
about.
So
then
he
was
like
oh
where's,
the
thing
right,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
clarity
which
we're
working
on,
but
maybe
written
for
folks
as
well.
A
D
And
I
I
was
thinking
was
at
some
point,
probably
pretty
soon.
The
committee
needs
to
report.
I
guess
to
the
referrals
committee
about
the
process
and
also
we
could
use
take
that
opportunity
to
help
council
members
understand,
because
we
had
a
couple
of
items
that
came
to
us
today
for
today
that
we
decided
really
didn't
need
to
be
made
as
a
referral.
So
maybe
some
kind
of
here's,
a
type
of
thing
that
you
can
just
you
know,
bring
up
in
a
regular
committee
meeting
versus
sending
it
as
a
referral.
A
Yeah,
yes,
100
and
also
you
sort
of
politely
didn't
point
out
that
the
next
rules
committee
meeting
is
very
very
soon
so
at
a
minimum.
I
think
we
need
to
report
back
verbally.
You
know
councilmember
fleming,
if
you're
comfortable,
starting
some
sort
of
something
in
writing
that
we
could
work
on.
C
A
C
C
B
B
A
Myself
is
that
okay
yeah
all
right,
so
our
next
meeting
then
will
be
at
9
30
a.m.
On
wednesday
september
15th-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
everyone's
indulgence.
A
So
that'll
be
a
new
experience
for
me.
I'm
sure
everyone
else
has
done
it
already
a
million
times.
We
did
that
for
the
first
time.
Oh.