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A
A
B
Quite
a
bit,
I
met
him
and
talked
with
him,
and
I
was
very
impressed
with
what
he
wanted
to
do
with
the
clerk's
office.
I
felt
he
really
wanted
to
turn
it
in
an
office
that
would
help
citizens
get
access
to
information
about
city
government.
He
was
very
passionate
about
that,
and
I
felt
that
this
was
great.
B
Here's
a
young
man
who
really
wants
to
do
something
for
the
city
and
to
turn
an
office
in
elected
office
into
a
more
active
proactive
office
dealing
with
things
like
go
to
participate
participation
so
to
learn
that
now,
because
of
some
complaints
that
members
of
the
council
have
that,
maybe
he
has
not
handled
the
FOIA
as
well,
they
should
be
taken
away
from
him.
This
was
one
of
the
that
he
campaigned
on,
that
he
would
work
with
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
the
council
would
support
such
a
move.
B
I
feel
if
there
were
things
that
can
be
fixed
up
and
he's
offered
to
do
that
he
could
made
Corrections
when
things
were
brought
to
his
attention.
So
I'm
really
troubled
that
anybody
would
so
quickly
decide
that
davon
Reed
should
not
have
these
powers
and
I
really
urge
all
of
you
to
keep
the
powers
with
Devon
and
if
there
needs
to
be
some
tweaking,
maybe
he
needs
more
staff.
Let's
have
it,
but
let's
not
take
powers
away
for
somebody
dedicated
to
really
improving
the
accessibility
and
transparency
of
our
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
C
Good
evening
my
name
is
Doug
sharp
I
live
at
2028
Cleveland
Street
in
the
Ninth
Ward
and
I'm,
a
member
of
reclaim
Evanston
as
a
member
of
reclaimed.
Evanston
I
worked
hard
over
the
winter
to
get
Devon
elected,
contributed
funds
contributed
my
time.
Canvassed
talked
to
people.
I
was
inspired
by
Devon
in
terms
of
what
he
was
going
to
bring
to
the
city
he
pledged
to
modernize
the
clerk's
office.
C
In
particular,
he
prompt
promise
to
streamline
the
city's
FOIA
process,
which
is
something
that
is
I,
think
critical
to
the
operation
of
the
city
and
a
transparent
and
open
government
and
now
he's
being
attacked
by
aldermen
for
doing
exactly
what
he
had
promised
to
do.
I
strongly
object
to
the
proposal
that
FOIA
responsibilities
be
removed
from
the
city
clerk.
Mr.
Reed
ran
on
a
platform
of
greater
transparency
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
That
is
what
he
is
attempting
to
do
and
reclaim
Evanson
supports
him
in
that
effort.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
D
D
D
D
E
I'm
Barbara
Lyons
I
live
at
14-14
Hinman
in
the
4th.
Ward
and
I
am
NOT
here
as
a
member
of
anything,
I
am
here
as
a
citizen,
I
worked
to
elect
Diwan
and
as
I
think
about
myself
as
a
young
person
in
my
first
jobs,
I'm
some
mistakes
and
if
I
wasn't
mentored.
If
somebody
didn't
help
me-
and
it
sounds
like
you
are
just
jumping
on
this
young
man,
if
you
need
some
assistance,
how
about
you
guys,
assist
him
or
get
him
some
assistance?
F
Good
evening
my
name
is
Cindy
Bush
and
I
live
at
2028
Cleveland
Street
in
the
Ninth
Ward
I
am
a
member
of
reclaim
Evanston
and
I
supported
davon
Reed
when
he
ran
for
city
clerk
last
spring.
As
you've
already
heard,
Devon
received
9700
35
votes
in
that
election.
He
is
the
top
vote.
Getter
of
in
all
of
the
races,
including
the
mayor's
race,
so
of
any
elected
official
in
Evanston,
received
a
mandate
that
was
Devon
Reed
during
the
campaign.
I
was
very
impressed
by
the
number
of
young
people
who
volunteered
for
Devon.
F
These
were
college
students
and
high
school
students,
some
of
them
not
even
old
enough
to
vote,
but
they
were
participating
in
a
campaign
because
they
were
inspired
by
devons
youth
and
by
his
vision.
His
campaign
introduced
them
to
the
electoral
process
and
to
the
obligation
we
all
have
to
participate
in
our
government
and
their
candidate
won
I.
F
Think
of
those
young
people
tonight
and
I'm
very
saddened
by
the
message
that
I
think
some
of
you
want
to
send
and
make
no
mistake.
This
is
what
they
will
hear
if
you
try
to
use
the
electoral
process
to
make
change
in
our
city
government.
Even
if
you
win
by
an
overwhelming
majority
of
the
vote,
you
will
be
shut
down
by
the
establishment
and
told
to
stay
in
your
place.
Don't
send
that
message.
Thank
you.
G
Good
evening
my
name
is
Chris:
white
I
live
at
943
Judson
and
the
Third
Ward
I'm,
a
member
of
reclaim
Evanston
I,
did
a
lot
of
work
on
Clark
Reid's
campaign
click
read
very
much
campaign
and
having
a
more
open,
transparent
city,
government,
I
use
FOIA
quite
a
bit
and
a
number
of
different
professionals
and
personal
capacities
and
social
capacities,
and
it
really
feels
that
the
attack
on
clerk
reads:
FOIA
powers
are
an
attack
on
my
votes
and
the
votes
of
many
others.
Thank
you.
Thank
You.
H
Good
evening
I'm
Lenny
Lampkin
I
live
at
835
Ridge
Avenue
in
the
Ninth
Ward
I
didn't
meet
the
clerk
until
after
he
was
elected,
I
was
working
on
a
presidential
campaign
and
I
was
traveling
the
country
for
my
regular
job.
The
question
here
to
me
as
a
citizen
of
Evanston,
it
sounds
like
some
folks
on
the
City.
Council
may
be
picking
on
him
because
he
made
some
mistakes,
but
they
may
be
also
picking
on
him.
H
If
you
remember,
I
came
and
spoke
out
on
the
minimum
wage,
ordinance
and
I
wonder
whether
this
is
retribution
for
him
saying
you
guys
violated
the
Boyer
act
and,
if
that's
what's
going
on
here
tonight,
it
smells
an
awful
lot
like
the
President
of
the
United
States
when
he
doesn't
like
somebody.
Can
we
please
keep
in
Thomases,
I
fire
them
and
take
away
their
powers
and,
as
I
remind
people
when
you
think
some
of
you
city
councillors,
were
thinking
about
privatizing
city
workers.
I
said
this
ain't
Wisconsin
this
is
Evanston.
H
A
I
But
you
can't
attack,
read
and
you
can
marginalize
read
and
you
can
try
to
deal
agenda.
Mize
read
it's
deplorable.
It's
wrong.
He
got
700
more
votes
than
anybody's
sitting
on
his
podium
up
here.
You
got
700
more
votes
than
anyone
else
up
here.
It's
wrong.
You
have
no
business
taking
his
things
and,
by
the
way,
for
the
record,
I
object
to
a
minute
and
a
half
as
a
thing
and
I
reserve
any
recourse
attendant
to
that.
I
J
Genet
risky
I've
lived
here
33
years,
the
other
I
was
in
the
jewel
the
other
night
and
a
former
city
employee
came
up
to
me
and
said
how's,
my
daughter
doing
my
little
girl.
Well,
it's
been
28
years,
I've
been
here
a
long
time
looking
into
City
issues.
Unfortunately,
the
two
employees
that
we
talked
about
it
both
passed
away,
but
one
thing
I
would
say
about
those
two
employees.
They
had
integrity
and
we
don't
seem
to
have
that
today
here
and
with
a
lot
of
the
staff
members
I'm.
J
It's
there's
been
misinformation,
spread
about
the
city,
clerk
and
other
things
here.
It's
very
unfortunate
and
I
mean
it's
that's
disgusting,
really
as
a
taxpayer,
to
have
to
pay
that
I'm
paying
for
this
nonsense.
That's
going
on
here
and
frankly,
I
didn't
vote
for
mr.
Reid,
but
that
doesn't
mean
I,
don't
support
what
he
does
and
I'll
leave
you
with
something
else.
Last
year
what
I
was
dealing
at
a
committee,
a
citizen
on
that
committee
was
touted
as
an
expert
and
that
citizen
was
not
an
expert
after
I
checked
into
it.
J
He
did
not
hold
a
license
to
practice
what
he
was
discussing
in
the
committee,
the
committee,
this
council
better
start
to
look
at
the
qualifications
of
people
you
appoint
to
committees
and
find
out
what's
going
on,
because
I
believe
that
individual
was
put
there
for
political
reasons
and,
frankly,
that
would
be,
if
I
consider
taking
him
to
the
state,
for
instance,
for
that
at
the
time.
Thank
you,
Thank
You.
K
Hello,
my
name
is
carol.
Lynn
die,
live
at
23,
33,
Lincoln
Street
in
the
sixth
Ward,
so
I've
never
spoken
to
meetings
such
as
this
before,
but
I've
been
very
disappointed
with
the
discourse
about
and
between
the
various
parts
of
Evanston's
government
involving
the
City
Clerk's
office
and
the
four-year
request
process.
Some
of
the
biggest
outrage
that
I've
heard
reported
was
about
the
fact
that
requests
and
the
Stiles
are
viewable.
K
I
did
a
bit
of
my
own
research,
including
taking
the
Illinois
Attorney
General's
public
online
training,
and
it
appears
to
me
that
the
identity
of
a
requester
is
indeed
public.
Information
and
requesters
should
have
no
expectation
of
privacy.
The
other
primary
issue
seems
to
be
the
proper
handling
of
information
that
is
indeed
exempt
from
FOIA
and
should
be
kept
private
private.
Obviously
time
and
care
has
to
be
taken
to
get
this
right.
K
City
department
should
work
together
to
support
the
City
Clerk's
office,
and
the
clerk's
office
should
be
very
careful
not
to
put
speed
ahead
of
care.
It's
a
complicated
area,
and
so
people
have
to
pay
close
attention.
I,
looked
at
the
websites
of
a
number
of
different
cities,
of
about
Evanston,
sighs
and,
from
my
very
unscientific
example,
I
think
the
City
Clerk's
is
often
the
office
that
does
this.
K
Although
I
acknowledge
the
point
that
the
clerk
is
not
always
elected,
it
is
also
the
case
that
police
report
requests
are
often
handled
separately
through
the
police
department
or
another
part
of
the
city.
I,
don't
agree
with
the
recommendation
and
the
materials
for
the
meeting
today
to
have
everything
kept
offline.
I
would
much
prefer
to
see
the
substance
of
requests
and
the
responses
online
I'm
ambivalent,
about
whether
the
identity
of
the
Questor
is
viewable.
I
also
see
merit
in
handling
requests
for
police
reports
and
the
like
differently
and
with
more
deference
to
privacy.
A
K
A
L
Name
is
Toni
Willis
and
I
live
at
1044,
Asbury,
Avenue
and
I'm
a
resident
in
the
Fourth
Ward.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
spoken
at
a
at
a
public
meeting
such
as
this,
and
this
is
the
first.
This
is
the
first
time
actually
I've
been
involved
in
local
politics.
I
have
worked
for
a
number
of
presidential
campaigns
over
the
years
and
also
worked
on
Barack
Obama's.
First
Senate.
L
Campaign
but
I
was
very
impressed
with
what
I
heard
from
Devon
Reed
I
am
a
member
of
reclaim
Evanston
and
I
was
involved
in
canvassing
for
him
and
I
did.
In
fact,
I
was
one
of
those
9700
odd
voters
and
I
was
particularly
pleased
to
hear
what
he
wanted
to
do
in
terms
of
opening
up
the
FOIA
process,
making
the
city
government
more
transfer
and
accessible
it.
For
me,
it's
a
very
puzzling
process
trying
to
work
my
way
through
the
how
you
all
come
to
decisions.
L
It
doesn't
seem
to
be
as
clear
and
transparent
as
perhaps
it
could
be,
and
I'm
really
puzzled
as
to
why
there's
such
an
a
rush
but
I
think
I'm
so
early
in
his
tenure
to
take
away
this
responsibility.
As
people
have
said,
yes,
there
may
have
been
mistakes
made,
but
if
it
is
a
learning
process,
then
you
don't
kick
the
person
out
of
school
the
first
semester,
because
they
make
mistakes
and
you
help
you.
A
L
M
Hello,
my
name's
Lonnie
Wilson
I
live
at
1725
dodge
in
the
fifth
Ward,
but
at
this
moment
I
hang
out
at
500
as
brilliant
to
grow
up
nursing
home
so
but
I'm
here
for
actually
two
reasons.
One
I
did
help
when
the
vine
was
trying
to
get
elected,
but
also
there's
another
thing
that
no
one
seems
to
touch
the
power
of
information
and
I
really
do
believe
that
this
body
has
a
fear
of
that
information
and
if
that's
the
problem,
putting
someone
else's
the
gatekeeper
of
that
information
is
really
critical
and
I.
M
Think
the
Diwan
is
the
person
who
should
be
that
gatekeeper
I,
like
the
rest
of
you,
but
I,
don't
trust
the
rest
of
you.
So
let's
just
try
to
keep
things
as
they
are
because
for
the
first
time
I,
like
I,
saw
an
african-american
woman
at
the
gas
station.
Tell
me
how
much
help
she
got
from
the
vine
trying
to
find
out
about
information.
The
people
in
the
neighborhood
I
grew
up
in
are
now
able
to
get
their
things
answered.
That
was
not
happening
before
and
I.
M
N
Thank
You
Ted
smuggler
I'm,
the
senior
organizer
manager
of
organizing
for
open
communities.
First
I
want
to
thank
you
for
passing
a
very
strong
welcoming
ordinance.
They
did
a
great
job
on
that
and
we're
very
proud
that
you
did
that.
Secondly,
in
terms
of
mr.
Reid,
I
see
no
reason
to
strip
these
powers
from
him,
except
for
fear
that
information
will
get
out
I.
N
Think
of
him
as
somebody
who's
all
about
transparency
and
all
about
community
involvement,
and
that's
what
you
would
want
from
an
elected
official
and
the
person
who's
handling
FOIA
information
can
I
ask:
is
the
the
ordinance
on
the
Commission
for
equity
owned
on
this
agenda?
It's
on
the
council
agenda,
okay,
okay!
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
O
Evening,
everyone
I
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
notion
of
the
records
and
the
database
being
available
only
to
the
person
who
requested
them.
I
am
a
former
city
employee,
as
you
all
know
so,
I've
been
on
both
sides
of
the
FOIA
situation
and
I
think
you
need
to
be
careful
when
we're
talking
about
words
like
privacy
and
appropriate
and
what
they
actually
mean
other
things
that
may
make
us
uncomfortable
to
be
in
a
publicly
accessible
database,
but
they're,
absolutely
vital
for
public
transparency.
Now
I
know
their
concerns
about
the
the
situation.
O
Where
say,
a
private
person
is
described
or
mentioned
in
an
email
that
goes
to
someone
in
city
government
and
thus
it
becomes
discoverable
through
FOIA,
but
that
can
also
work
the
other
way
around.
So,
for
example,
if
there
is
something
that's
been
said
about
a
private
citizen,
they
may
not
know
to
request
a
FOIA
for
it,
but
it
may
come
out
in
someone
else's
FOIA
and
so
by
having
that
available
in
a
public
database
that
gives
them
more
information
about
what
may
be
about
them
by
someone
in
a
public
body
and
I.
O
Think
it's
critical
that
that
remains
open
to
the
public
and
that
it's
administered
by
an
independent
elected
official,
so
that
all
of
the
information
about
someone
is
available,
both
thee
that
perhaps
the
spurious
information,
but
also
the
exonerating
and
explanatory
information,
and
that
people
have
a
chance
to
look
at
all
of
it
and
make
their
own
decisions.
I.
Think
it's
also
important
to
realize
that
Evanston
is
not
unique
in
keeping
the
FOIA
database
searchable
by
everyone,
including
it
not
just
people
who
made
the
request.
O
The
next
request
company
lists
many
many
different
cities
that
do
this
San
Diego
New
Orleans
Middlebury
Massachusetts
Shammi.
So
this
is
not
a
particularly
bizarre
thing
to
be
doing,
and
it
also
there's
simple
efficiency.
Questions,
as
next
request
says.
The
best
and
only
way
to
fight
increases
in
FOIA
requests
volume
is
use,
is
keeping
the
database
available
to
the
public.
O
P
P
You
have
stripped
from
what
I've
read
mail
service,
passport
service
transfer,
tax
business.
You
have
just
made
everything.
You've
touched
everything
up
in
the
air
and
we're
all
focusing
on
the
FOIA
issue
and
I
do
agree
with
other
people
much
more
eloquent
than
I.
Am
that
that
should
be
I
mean
this
is
not
the
White
House
information
in
this
city.
If
not,
this
country
should
be
open
and
available
to
citizens,
especially
if
it
reflects
badly
on
any
of
our
elected
officials.
Q
Mr.
mayor
mr.
city
manager,
members
of
the
council,
there
are
many
advisory
opinions
of
the
Illinois
Attorney
General's
Office
on
Freedom
of
Information
Act
matters,
I
request
that
that
information
be
taken
into
the
council
to
help
it
in
its
deliberations
and
that
this
matter
related
to
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act
duties
of
the
city
clerk
the
extended
to
another
meeting
of
this
body,
so
that
those
advisory
opinions
of
the
Illinois
Attorney
General
may
be
taken
into
account.
Q
Q
Literature
connected
to
those
advisory
opinions
either
before
the
opinions
or
after
them
there
are
appellate
law
decisions
which
would
also
help
you
I
believe
in
your
deliberations
upon
consultation
with
an
experienced
Freedom
of
Information
Act
attorney,
since
he
advised
me
to
ask
you
to
extend
this
complicated
matter
to
another
meeting
of
the
body,
so
that
citizens
and
other
legal
researchers
may
give
you
their
advice
before
you
give
your
advice
and
consent
to
the
city
government.
Thank
you.
Kim
Robinson.
R
Evening
Alex
Morgan
I
wanted
to
echo
the
woman
who
spoke
just
a
couple
before
me.
I
would
say:
I
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
fight
and
I
would
add
I'm
more
here
to
speak
about
the
whole
house.
A
lot
of
folks
prior
to
me
have
talked
about
the
election
and
how
it
was
a
top
issue
to
highlight
FOIA
and
open
government,
and
so
that's
been
stated.
There
have
been
some
legal
arguments
and
Leslie
spoke
so
eloquently
about
transparency.
R
What
I
wanted
to
get
at
is
you
know,
I
I,
don't
question
too
many
of
the
intentions
behind
why
this
question
was
raised.
I
think
they
were
meaningful
in
the
most
part,
and
so
I'm
not
here
to
point
fingers
but
I
think
that
to
take
such
a
rash
reaction
and
institute
this
conversation
about
re-evaluating
the
FOIA
officer
is
going
too
far
when
we've
had
these
conversations
about
openness
and
transparency
and
some
of
the
information,
while
clerk
staff
have
pointed
out
that
there
were
some
errors,
there's
also
some
of
the
reporting
on
this.
R
That
has
been
retracted,
because
city
staff
were
saying
inaccurate
things,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
would
hold
back
on
this.
Take
the
appropriate
steps
to
make
sure
that
the
the
clerk
is
thinking
in
the
best
interests
of
the
people,
which
I
think
he
does
and
making
sure
that
we
maintain
openness
and
transparency,
not
just
for
this
clerk,
but
for
any
clerk
going
forward
that
we
elect
well
into
the
future.
Thank
you.
S
Hi,
my
name
is:
will
Pierce
and
I'm
a
member
of
Lucy
Parsons
labs,
a
Chicago
police
accountability,
nonprofit
Chicago
based
that
is,
we
filed
dozens
of
foils
with
Chicago
Police
are
currently
engaged
in
several
lawsuits
and
I.
Don't
think
I
need
to
remind
anybody
in
2017
why
we
think
that's
such
crucial
work
now
being
a
resident
of
Evanston
I've
also
filed
three
Freedom
of
Information
Act
requests
regarding
the
Evanston
Police
Department
Evanston
has
always
conducted
itself
in
an
accurate,
timely
and
courteous
manner.
S
So
when
I
saw
that
the
FOIA
system
was
down
online,
I
was
concerned,
but
not
deeply
so,
but
I
was
especially
disturbed
when
I
heard
reports
of
a
plan
for
Evanston
to
take
FOIA
power
from
read
and
elected
official
and
place
it
in
the
hands
of
the
police
department.
So
I'm
here
tonight
to
offer
what
I
can
think
of
as
a
warning
that
the
the
city
of
Evanston
seems
to
be
heading
toward
a
culture
of
silence
and
obfuscation.
S
A
T
T
The
thing
that
also
concerns
me
that
maybe
we
haven't
addressed
tonight
is
how
does
somebody
start
a
job
at
the
city
of
Evanston
and
get
the
support
they
need?
How
is
it
that
Devon
Reid
begins
his
position
and
doesn't
get
to
shadow
the
other
person
who
held
the
position?
Why
is
this
no
one
overseeing
that
and
demanding
that
that
happened?
So
this
is
a
question.
Another
question
is
how
about
the
former
employees
that
worked
in
the
office
who
apparently
refused
to
work
with
him,
stating
they
don't
answer
to
him.
So
why
is
that
acceptable?
T
Why
was
that?
Okay
and
in
this
situation
about
the
FOIA
I
am
kind
of
amazed
that
John
Simon's,
the
collaboration
that
could
have
occurred
to
fix
this
ended
up
becoming
a
free-for-all
for
everybody
to
show
up
tonight
and
try
and
champion
this
guy
who's,
probably
one
of
the
far
the
smartest
people
in
this
room.
Frankly,
so
I
respect
this
guy
I
support
him.
We
all
support
him,
keep
FOIA
in
the
hands
of
the
city
clerk
and
let's
get
this
done.
Thank.
U
So
councilmembers
I
understand
you're
voting
on
a
proposal,
so
I'm
gonna
direct
you
to
the
proposal.
Please
look
at
pages
12
and
13.
Some
of
the
memo
that
you
were
given
for
the
proposed
FOIA
policy
can
be
misleading
and
may
be
technically
legally
on
target.
It's
rhetorically
designed
to
have
you
take
a
certain
position.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
the
Illinois
statute,
the
proposal
quotes
the
Illinois
FOIA
statute.
The
FOIA
act
is
not
intended
to
cause
an
unwarranted
invasion
of
personal
privacy.
U
Each
public
body
shall
promptly
provide
to
any
person
who
submits
a
request,
a
copy
of
each
public
record.
The
proposal
before
you
to
be
voted
on
then
States
quote
the
statute
could
not
be
clearer.
Records
are
be,
are
to
be
produced
to
a
requester.
One
might
conclude
from
this
that
the
clerk
did
something
unusual
or
inappropriate
by
fulfilling
some
by
putting
some
FOIA
requesters
names
online.
The
proposal
says
your
city
of
Chicago
I
have
a
printout
for
you
names
of
requesters.
U
The
proposal
says
the
clerk
often
refused
to
set
FOIA
request
to
private
the
proposal
also
states
after
May
2017.
There
were
issues
admitted
to
by
the
clerk.
Regarding
timely
compliance
with
FOIA
requests
or
other
relevant
legal
standards,
this
lacks
detail
in
specifics
and
implies
the
clerk
did
not
do
his
duties
without
substantiating
with
examples.
Is
this
accurate
and
fair?
Are
we
supposed
to
simply
trust
the
words
of
the
author
of
this
proposal?
Where
is
the
documentation?
U
It
may
be
worthwhile
to
be
mindful
of
the
various
types
of
defamation
and
libel
recognized
under
Illinois
law.
One
type
is
words
that
impute
a
lack
of
ability
in
a
person's
trade
or
profession
prior
to
removal
of
the
clerk's
FOIA
duties,
I
had
never
had
an
extended
conversation
with
him,
nor
his
deputy.
Beyond
good
luck.
Hope
you
win
the
election
as
an
avid
assistant
resident
concerned
about
good
government
and
transparency.
I
spoke
to
them
since
the
clerk
was
relieved
to
FOIA
duties.
I
can
say
in
the
course
of
explaining
their
side
of
the
issue.
U
A
U
A
V
Evening,
mayor
Haggerty,
City,
Council
I'm
reading
on
behalf
of
the
1,300
pitner
block
club,
we
consistently
urge
our
young
people
to
make
a
positive
contribution
to
their
community
and
to
work
with
the
political
process.
Davon
Reed
has
done
that
our
young
people
are
watching.
Can
we
expect
them
to
follow
his
example
of
leadership?
If
they
see
they
will
not
be
given
the
opportunity
to
grow
into
their
responsibilities?
V
W
Yes,
I'm,
my
name
is
Diane
todos
I
live
in
Evanston,
two
six,
six,
eight
I've
grown
up
in
this
city
for
all
my
life,
but
for
13
years
and
I'm
really
concerned
about
what's
gone
down
today,
because
it
seems
to
be
tracking
a
pattern
that
casts
some
light
of
doubt
on
the
credibility
of
this
body.
W
Well,
the
last
time
I
was
here
when
there
was
something
of
shocking
going
on.
It
was
because
we
were
going
to
be
passing
a
$15
minimum
wage
in
Evanston
and
lo
and
behold
we
were
not
given
the
48
hours
in
which
to
get
here
in
order
to
stop
a
motion
to
deny
that
$15
minimum
wage,
but
thank
God,
davon
Reed
was
there
to
support
us
to
do
right
by
our
Evan,
stone,
Ian's
and
and
past
this
so
I'd
say
yeah.
W
That's
a
really
good
sign
that
this
man
was
doing
his
job
and
there's
something
going
on
behind
the
scenes
here
that
was
trying
to
upend
a
duty
to
support
Evanston
citizens
and
a
$15
minimum
wage
and
from
what
I
understand
you
know
this.
This
seems
to
be
something
that
that
draws
an
issue
of
not
suspicion
on
him,
but
on
those
who
voted
against
him
now.
I
know
that
Fleming
and
Simmons
did
not
vote
to
be
against
him
and
I.
Think
there's
a
reason
why
I.
W
The
power
of
the
FOIA
request
in
his
hands
and
also
the
absolute
necessity
for
transparency
of
our
government
and
that
transparency
has
been
proven
by
what
he's
been
able
to
do
so
far.
I
work
for
reclaimed
and
I'd
that
Greek
claim
in
this,
because
he
was
found
to
be
a
true
progressive
and
I
I
work
for
the
Harley
Clark
mansion
issues,
because
I
did
not
see
transparency
in
this
in
this
ward
and
there
were
some
members
that
I
work
to
try
to
get
to
replace
alderman,
but
we'll
keep
working
on
that.
W
A
X
Name
is
Lila
Robb
and
I
have
noticed
a
similarity
in
some
of
my
thoughts.
So
I
will
conclude
with
the
summation
here.
Is
we
all
did
not
understand
the
FOIA
process?
We
understand
it
better.
No,
it
is
very
important
to
us
that
they
not
get
to
on
the
job
that
they
get
the
on
job
training.
He
does
that
I
didn't
get
on
my
job
because
we've
all
been
through
that
and
it
is
ineffective.
I
must
make
you
aware
of
that.
X
The
collaboration
of
our
city
officials,
with
each
other
in
terms
of
helping
processes
and
not
combining
to
thwart
progressive
ideas,
is
very,
very
good
and
also
not
to
support
themes
that
you
were
elected
to
talk
to
us
about
before
you
make
your
decisions
and
the
one
last
comment
is
the
language
in
the
roundtable
about
how
he
did
not
do
his
job
was
so
nonspecific.
It
goes
back
to
what
the
lady
just
said.
There
were
no
facts,
it
was
just
charges.
It
sounded
like
my
old
boss
when
he
didn't
want
to
give
me
a
raise.
A
Y
A
Z
Mr.
maryk
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
good
evening
on
page
5
of
your
packet
is
a
memorandum
from
the
corporation
council
in
the
interest
of
time.
We're
happy
to
answer
questions,
but
staff
is
recommending
that,
in
order
to
deal
with
this
conflict
in
the
future
that
the
bills
list
be
divided
between
all
non
amazon,
related
city
purchases
and
amazon,
related
purchases
all
over
suffrage
and
can
vote
on
the
non
amazon
related
list
and
abstain
from
voting
upon
the
amazon
related
list.
So
again,
the
corporation
councils
here
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I.
H
AA
A
Z
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
on
page
six
is
memorandum
form
from
me
regarding
this
I've
pointed
out
the
appropriate
Illinois
statutes
dealing
with
mayoral
appointments.
I've
also
pointed
out
the
second
section
of
the
Evanston
City
Code,
as
well
as
the
pertinent
sections
of
the
City
Council's
rules
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
Y
You
my
concern
was
that
our
appointed
committee
members,
don't
accurately
reflect
our
community
and
I
was
challenging
us
to
come
up
with
policy
and
a
process
that
would
make
sure
that
we
have
representatives
from
all
communities
here
in
Evanston
and
so
from
the
memo
that's
been
provided.
I
see
that
there
is
one
example
where
we
should
not
have
more
than
one
resident
appointed
to
more
than
one
committee
is
that
am
I
reading
that
correctly.
Z
Sorry,
mr.
chair
members
of
committee
element
Bruce
immens.
That
has
been
the
practice
I
think
the
memorandum
that
was
provided
to
the
committee
today
indicated
that
the
only
instance
where
a
there
are
multiple
members
of
standing
boards
and
commissions
has
when
those
boards
and
commissions
appoint
members
to
serve
on
other
commissions.
So,
for
example,
the
Economic
Development
Committee
has
a
member
from
zba
and
from
the
Planning
Commission,
so
those
individuals
then
end
up
serving
on.
Since
the
memo
was
produced.
Z
There
was
one
exception
to
that
that
there's
a
member
of
the
board
of
ethics
who's
also
serving
on
the
mayor's
ad
hoc
committee.
Looking
at
the
police
complaint
process,
strictly
speaking,
ad
hoc
committees
weren't
a
scope
of
the
mission
requests,
but
otherwise
there
is
no
duplication
other
than
as
what
was
mentioned.
I.
AA
Wanted
to
say
on
behalf
of
Alderman
Tisdale,
she
actually
kept
vacancies
open
as
she
searched
and
searched
and
searched
different
communities
for
people
to
apply,
and
at
some
point
those
committees
were
urging
her
to
please
put
somebody
on
because
they
were
unable
to
make
quorums.
And
so
that
became
a
problem.
AA
Y
With
that
said,
I
would
like
an
opportunity
to
do
outreach
to
the
community
to
get
more
participation
to
have
better
representation
on
the
committee's
and
definitely
not
have
any
one
resident
appoint
it
to
more
than
one
committee.
Even
if
it
is
the
example
that
city
manager
mentioned,
we
have
how
many
committees,
boards
and
commissions,
about.
Y
And
so
with
that
said,
we
have
residents
that
are
engaged
and
have
a
voice
and
should
have
a
voice,
especially
when
we
are
creating
policy
and
and
having
opinions
on
budgets
that
affect
our
entire
community.
So
if
we
can
do
better,
that's
a
great
example
leave
a
vacancy
open
and
not
have
an
urgency
to
fill
it
without
a
thoughtful
attempt
to
have
a
diverse
representation
on
that
committee.
AB
Just
to
echo
what
alderman
Rainey
said
in
my
various
service
on
various
nonprofit
boards,
they'll
be
the
time
when
the
nominating
committee
is
getting
ready
to
look
for
new
board
members
and
we're
always
told
that
everybody
on
the
board
is
a
member
of
the
nominating
committee
in
an
unofficial
way
and
is
supposed
to
be
out
talking
with
people
in
the
broader
community,
whatever
community.
That
might
be
to
encourage
people
to
consider
becoming
a
member
of
the
board.
And
so
similarly
I
think.
AB
AC
Z
Mr.
chairmembers,
the
committee
aldrin
fleming
each
board
and
commission
kind
of
has
its
own
story
as
far
as
requirements,
so
many
of
them
have
different
kinds
of
requirements.
I,
don't
think
we
have
it
all
in
one
document,
so
I
don't
know.
There's
anything.
I
can
complaint
you
to
online
really
in
the
memo
that
I
provided
this
evening,
it's
really
within
the
council's
purview
other
than
the
the
four
or
five
of
that
the
mayor
has
power
without
without
form
to
appoint
other.
The
remainder
belong.
That
power
belongs
to
the
City
Council.
Z
So
if
you
wish
to
look
at
any
one
of
them,
some
of
the
boards
and
commissions
are
set
by
ordinance.
Some
are
created
by
resolution.
Some
are
created
by
a
amended
order
of
the
City
Council,
so
I
guess
my
proposal,
so
the
council
would
be
if
there's
something
you'd
like
to
change,
perhaps
think
about
the
boards
and
commissions
you're
most
concerned
about
and
perhaps
look
at
the
makeup
from
the
and
the
authorizing
language
of
those
boards
and
commissions,
and
then
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
there,
either
as
all
of
your
Fleming's
suggesting
one
per
Ward.
Z
Not
every
board
and
Commission
has
nine
members,
but
but
you
look
at
it
that
way,
because
otherwise
there's
just
an
awful
lot
and
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
from
a
staff
perspective
is
when
positions
are
left
vacant.
Sometimes
the
committees
have
difficulty
having
meetings
because
they
aren't
able
to
find
quorum.
Z
So
there's
absolutely
a
balance
here
and
and
I
think
it's
a
difficult
balance,
because
if
you
don't
have
people
to
fill
the
positions
because
you're
leading
positions
vacant
in
order
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
every
single
boarding
commission
looks
like
Evanston,
sometimes
there's
just
so
many
people
involved.
So
if
there's
44
groups
times
at
least
five,
that's
an
awful
lot
of
Evanston
residents,
you're
asking
to
devote
time
to
a
boarding
commission.
So
again
my
suggestion
would
be,
if
they're
specific
groups
at
boards
of
Commissioners
you're
most
concerned
about
perhaps
at
a
future
meeting.
Z
AD
Locating
people,
okay,
thank
you!
Thank
you,
chair,
Wilson
yeah.
So,
basically,
when
it
comes
to
committees
and
appointing
members
to
those
committees,
the
way
it
works
right
now
is
we
look
at
folks
that
have
applied
okay
and
I
suggest
to
anybody.
If
you're
interested
in
the
committee,
you
can
apply
online
just
go
to
the
city's
website.
We
look
at
the
people
that
have
applied.
We
then
look
at
the
composition
of
the
committee
right
now:
okay,
in
a
broad,
broad
sense,
okay,
geographically,
where
do
people
live?
What's
their
gender?
AD
What's
what's
their
race,
you
know
what's
their
occupation,
what
does
the
the
ordinance
require
of
that
committee?
Some
of
these
ordinances
that
establish
the
boards
and
commissions
require
certain
skills
and
capabilities,
and
and
that's
the
process,
that's
the
process
that
we
go
through.
It
is
certainly
not
a
perfect
process
if
we
said
hey,
you
know
what
we've
got
committees
that
are
made
up
of
nine
people.
We
just
want
one
person
from
each
ward.
AD
AD
We've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
new
people
involved
in
that
committee
tonight
on
the
council
agenda
is
the
climate
action
workgroup
that
comes
before
the
council
and
will
continue
the
process
that
we
do
as
well
when
I
put
forward
candidates
that
that
comes
to
the
council
members
beforehand.
For
you
all
to
take
a
look
and
give
me
any
feedback
on
that
Thank.
A
You
Man,
Delta,
mu,
Simmons
I,
think
your
point
about
the
outreach
is
important
and
well
taken.
Perhaps
we
could
find
a
way
to
get
the
committee
chairs
more
directly
involved
in
some
of
the
you
know
lead
and
they
are
better
dialed
in
to
when
people
are
going
to
be
cycling
off
the
committee's
and
if
they
could,
maybe
just
as
part
of
their
duties,
be
directed
to
reach
out
to
you
and
maybe
help
develop
strategies
on
on
how
to
effectively
do
that
outreach.
You.
AD
Know
we,
let
me
just
add
we
could
absolutely
do
that.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
now
just
for
the
public
to
be
aware
of
is
whenever
anyone
applies
for
a
committee
or
a
board
or
Commission
I,
send
an
email
back
to
them
generally
within
48
hours,
I
copied
the
alderman
of
the
ward
that
that
person
is
in
to
give
visibility
to
you
all
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
great
suggestion
that
we
could
add
is
another
step
in
the
process.
AD
AE
You
I
think
I.
If
we
could
I
realize
we
can't
do
this
necessarily
that
frequently,
but
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
the
whole
community
to
maybe
on
a
quarterly
basis
to
know
that
there
will
be
you
know
on
these
committees.
There
will
be
openings
in
the
next
three
months.
So
if
you
are
interested,
perhaps
you
should
think
about
applying
or
you
know
there
will
be
an
opening
on
the
Plan
Commission
of
the
CBA,
the
environment
board
over
the
next
six
months.
AE
Think
about
applying
now
we-
and
you
know
we
certainly
have
the
city,
you
may
you
newsletter,
we
all
have
Ward
newsletters
I,
just
took
a
note.
I
have
a
town
hall
meeting
next
week.
I
think
several
of
us
do
that
I'm
gonna
ask
to
have
a
list
of
what
are
the
current
vacancies
and
the
upcoming
vacancies
prepared,
so
that
we
can
distribute
that
at
our
board
meeting.
So
you
know
we
get
people
who
are
coming
out
and
are
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
constant
reminder
of
hey?
Are
you
interested
look?
AE
Look
at
the
array
of
committees,
you
know
there's
something
for
everyone
and
and
here's
the
next
opening.
Maybe
this
is
a
good
time
in
your
life.
You
have
time
to
volunteer.
This
would
be
a
good
time
to
do
it
so
I
think
if
we
just
keep
letting
people
people
letting
people
know
the
array
of
what's
available
when,
when
a
position,
when
there
is
going
to
be
an
opening
and
put
your
application,
you
know-
and
people
can
also
it's
very
important
for
people
to
realize
you
can
is
I
hope
this
is
correct.
Mr.
AE
Y
Great
idea,
if
we
had
the
information
as
autumn
and
one
is
suggesting
that
would
give
us
time
to
do
the
proper
outreach,
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
formal
recommendation
that
we
have
a
memo
of
who
what
vacancies
are
going
to
be
opening.
So
we
can
inform
and
invite
the
community
to
apply,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
system,
a
goal
and
so
that
we
don't
end
up
in
the
same
spot
where
we
we
just
didn't,
get
the
participation.
Let's
be
more
intentional
about
having
a
diverse
makeup.
Y
Y
A
Y
AA
We
know
just
we
know
that
there
are
numerous
people
on
two
committees
because,
for
example,
on
economic
development
there's
somebody
from
the
planned
commission,
because
many
committees
require
that
one
of
their
members
serve
on
another
committee.
They
represent
another
committee.
Maybe
we
should
even
look
at
that
to
see
if
that's
necessary
anymore.
So
that's
that's
what
happens
and
somebody
from
zoning
is
required
to
be
on
another
committee,
and
so
that's
where
you
see
the
two
names,
the
name
being
the
same
on
different
committees
like
somebody
on
CD,
is
from
what
from
the
planned
Commission.
AA
AE
AA
AE
AE
We
act
a
little
bit
more
in
her
rather
than
I
think
there
have
been
times
in
the
past
where
one
board
might
have
been
trending
in
a
particular
direction
on
certain
issues
and
another
board
was
trending
in
an
opposite
direction
and
it
wasn't
until
we
actually
had
a
joint
meeting
that
that
there
was
a
realization
of
a
staff
that
was
caught
in
the
middle.
So
by
having,
for
instance,
someone
from
the
environment
board
we
get
and
it's
usually
someone
who's
very
interested
in
transportation
policy.
S
AE
Then
having
someone
from
the
plan
Commission
is
helpful,
because
then
you
know
they're,
they
might
know
more.
They
are
listening
to
what
we're
talking
about
about
transportation,
policy
and
they're.
Taking
that
back
to
the
plan
Commission,
who
are
looking
at
projects
and/or
changing
the
zoning
ordinance
Thank.
Z
A
Z
Mr.
Anselmo
is
helped
by
a
Kimberly
Richardson
they've
been
working
together.
The
council
has
asked
for
more
staff
resources
on
this
matter
since
miss
Richards
has
been
here.
So
it's
been
nearly
two
years
so
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
continuing
to
put
that
forward
and
give
a
difficult
budget.
So
it's
difficult
for
me
to
ask
you
for
additional
staff,
but
to
spend
times
on
boards
and
commissions.
Z
A
AA
AA
Hecky
Powell
is
in
a
position
right
now
at
his
rib
place,
to
expand,
and
there
are
certain
programs
in
the
economic
development
department
that
allow
for
people
to
apply
for
certain
grants
under
that
program.
It's
it's
not
a
competition.
You
are
either
eligible
or
you're,
not
you
select
certain
contractors
and
you
give
you
bids
for
certain
work.
That
is
either
approved
or
not
approved,
but
it's
not
a
matter
of
competition.
You
are
either
no
matter
who
you
are
I
mean
they
could
even
blank
out
names
who
are
either
eligible
or
you're.
AA
Not
it
doesn't
matter
who
you
are
you're,
either
eligible
or
you're
done,
so
he
indicated
that
he
would
like
to
apply
for
a
grant.
He
was
told
that
he
was
not
eligible
to
apply
for
a
grant
because
he
was
on
the
economic
development
committee.
I
argued
with
our
legal
department
that
that
was
not
fair,
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
he
brought
to
the
economic
development
committee
and
I
thought.
AA
Other
members
of
the
committee
agreed
with
me,
was
a
certain
perspective
being
born
and
raised
Devin
stone,
Ian,
a
minority
who
engaged
more
youth
than
probably
any
other
single
employer
in
the
city
of
Evanston
Hecky
always
has
a
project.
The
more
trouble
you're
in
as
a
youth,
the
more
likely
he's
to
snatch
you
up
and
try
to
make
you.
You
know
what
what
he
considers
a
success
and
he's
just
he's
just
been
an
amazing
success
story,
and
so
he
brings
a
certain
snarkiness
and
a
certain
perspective
to
that
committee.
AA
That
many
of
us
don't
have
and
he's
been
very
helpful
and
he's
been
on
the
committee,
not
quite
a
whole
term.
I,
don't
think,
and
he
really
likes
being
on
the
committee,
and
he
was
he
was
astonished
when
he
was
told
that
he
could
no
longer
be
on
the
committee
if
he
were
to
apply
for
a
grant,
not
that
he
would
have
to
compete
for.
But
if
there
were
money
available
he
would
either
be
eligible,
like
somebody
else
or
not
eligible
and
I
I
stressed
that,
because
it's
not
a
matter
of
competing.
AA
And,
of
course,
he
wouldn't
be
present
for
the
debate
of
whether
or
not
we
would
approve
it.
He
wouldn't
be
present,
for
he
wouldn't
be
able
to
participate
in
any
discussion,
but
the
the
word
was
no.
You
couldn't
because
there
would
be
a
conflict
of
interest.
So
I
mentioned
several
other
situations.
I
thought
in
the
city
that
were
very
similar
and
I
was
told.
Well,
those
are
different.
AA
I
said
what,
if
he
quits
the
committee,
which
he
absolutely
did
not
want
to
do,
I
was
told
that,
even
if
he
quits
the
committee,
that
might
influence
still
the
committee
and
that
that
matter
would
still
probably
have
to
go
to
the
ethics
committee.
So
my
purpose
for
bringing
it
here,
even
though
I
realize
this
has
to
go
to
the
ethics
committee
if
he
doesn't
want
to
quit,
and
even
if
he
does
quit.
AA
Oh
yes,
yes
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
we
can
change
the
ethics
committee
language
because,
obviously
the
way
it
stands
it
has
to
go
the
ethics
committee
and
if
it
has
to
go
to
the
ethics
committee,
there's
no
point
in
us
discussing
it
here,
but
I
wanted
to
discuss
the
reason
why
it
has
to
go
to
the
ethics
committee.
That's
why
I
brought
it
here.
I
think
alderman
suffered
ins
issue
is
totally
different
than
this
I
mean
that's.
A
A
My
hope
is
that
when
the
Board
of
Ethics
does
their
full
vetting
I
think
as
it's
referred,
that
they'll
take
this
into
account,
I
mean
all
the
apollomon
trainees
point
is
well-taken.
If
you
will-
and
we
just
had
a
couple-
we
just
finished
a
conversation
about
how
hard
it
is
to
staff
the
committees
and
how
hard
it
is
to
to
find
representative
members
of
the
community
if
you're
in
the
community-
and
you
are
engaged
you're
gonna
have
things
come
up,
I
mean
that's
the
whole
point.
A
You
want
people
that
are
engaged
in
the
community
and
you
know
to
find
somebody
who
doesn't
have
any
contact
with
a
business
or
any
contact
with
the
government
or
any
contact
with
a
non-profit.
Well:
okay,
we
don't
have
those
people
or,
if
you
do,
they
might
not
be
your
first
pick
to
be
on
your
committee.
So
so
hopefully
they
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
be
mindful
of
of
that
of
that
general
idea.
You're
comfortable
with
the
reference
to
the
community.
AA
Right,
my
the
the
real
issue
here
is
you
either
you
either
are
eligible
or
you're?
Not
it
really
doesn't
matter.
If
we
really,
the
the
committee
really
loves
Hecky,
and
we
really
want
him
to
have
this
money
if
he
weren't
eligible,
he
couldn't
get
it
right.
It's
not
there's
no
partiality
here,
you
either
meet
all
the
checkbox
or
you
don't.
A
AF
Remember
his
weight,
Thank
You
ball
people
assumed
I
in
thinking
about
it.
I
could
I
am
on
the
side
to
support
this
in
one
of
the
recommendations
I
want
to
make
is
if
we
can
make
a
statement
that
goes
along
with
referral
to
our
to
our
Board
of
Ethics,
that
just
a
very
simple
statement
from
our
council
saying
that
and
I,
don't
know
how.
If
you
want
to
take
a
straw
poll,
that
we
are
in
general
support
of
this.
AC
When
I
think
about
this
I'm
thinking
about
when
I
was
in
the
mental
health
board
and
we
allocate
funds
and
some
of
those
people
either
have
been
an
employee
of
an
agency,
that's
applying
or
volunteer
I
didn't
an
agency.
So
we
you
know
I.
Thank
you.
Move
done,
I,
think
one
lady
recuse
herself,
but
we
it's
just
fall
into
the
same
pot,
because
those
are
people
who
work
very
hard
and
we're
voting
and
giving
grants.
But
we
have
to
be
mindful
if
you
know
they
have
been
an
employee.
AC
AC
AA
A
A
AA
Tell
them
what
to
do
I.
The
most
important
piece
here
is
that
there's
no
there's
no
partiality
here,
there's
there's,
but
what
the
legal
department
has
said
is
that
there
is
no
way
that,
given
that
he
is
a
member
of
the
committee,
that
we
cannot
that
we
would
not
be
showing
partiality
to
him
in
making
this
decision.
We
really
have
no
decision
to
make
our
staff
takes
a
look
at
these
requests
and
they
either
meet
the
requests
or
they
don't
their
projects
either
meet
the
requests
or
they
don't.
There
are
50/50
deals
where
you
know.
AA
A
AC
AG
Members
of
the
Rules
Committee
grant
for
our
Cooperation
Council
I
think
that
the
dialogue
that
is
going
on
right
now
is
extraordinarily
helpful
in
that
it
raises
all
the
potential
questions
that
need
to
be
further
vetted
at
the
board
of
ethics.
So
I,
don't
think
I
can
really
capture
that
hypothetical,
because
it
ties
in
to
everything.
AG
That's
just
been
discussed,
but
I
think
that
the
road
map
that
this
committee
has
laid
out
in
terms
of
all
the
possible
universe
of
issues
that
is
attendant
to
a
part
of
the
code
that
was
not
passed
in
2006,
with
the
kind
of
flexibility
to
to
address
all
of
these
issues.
This
is
where
this
dialogue
is
extremely
helpful.
AA
AH
AH
AD
A
minute
I'm,
sorry,
mayor
eggy,
oh
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair,
Wilson,
I,
don't
know
if
this
has
happened.
If
this
has
happened
before
you
know
again
and
I
do
recognize
that
it
is
dynamic,
but
has
there
ever
been
a
situation
or
could
we
envision
a
situation
where
there's
$100,000
or
whatever
in
the
economic
development
fund?
Let's
say
that
people
submitting
proposals
for
and
the
committee
gets,
you
know,
proposals
for
150,000
dollars
and
then
they're
making
a
choice
about.
AD
You
know
on
objective
data
or
alderman
Rainey
as
you're
saying
that
this
is
very
objective
in
terms
of
who,
how
they're
gonna
parse
that
money
out-
and
you
know
if
there's
a
business
member
of
the
committee
who's
applying
for
one
of
the
grants.
You
know,
how
does
that
you
know
impact
the
decision
making.
L
A
Was
okay
that
will
be
referred
to
the
Ethics
Board?
The
next
item
is
a
reference
from
Alderman
Fisk.
We
do
have
a
little
short
staff
memo
on
that
particular
issue
on
with
best
practices
for
the
board
of
ethics.
I
see
that
the
analysis
suggest
that
we
invite
the
board
to
their
work
to
us
at
a
future
meeting.
Does
that
sound
good
to
you.
A
AH
That's
fine
but
I
think
part
of
the
reason
that
I
suggested
this
is
that
and
and
frankly,
I'm
really
glad
that
this
is
moving
moving
forward.
Is
that
I
think
our
our
ethics
ordinance
is
confusing?
I?
Don't
think
it's
clear?
We
need
to
figure
this
out.
I
mean
talk
about
transparency.
Most
of
the
people
here
tonight
are
here
because
of
transparency
and
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
reflected
better
in
our
code
of
ethics.
There's
all
sorts
of
questions
I
think
was
it
you.
Mr.
chair,
that
mentioned,
were
a
small
community.
AH
Someone
did
mention
that
you
know
we're
a
small
community.
We
all
know
each
other.
We
we
basically
trust
each
other,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
always
make
the
right
decisions
that
result
in
a
accurate
interpretation
on
the
part
of
the
public
and
I
think
making
our
code
of
ethics
more
more
transparent,
more
easily
understood
by
the
public
I
think
is
helpful.
I've
had
various
concerns
about
our
ethics
code
over
the
years
apparently
well.
One
of
those
concerns
is
campaign.
AH
AC
Okay,
I
have
a
good
question
for
corporation
counsel.
On
this
memo.
You
mentioned
a
couple
places
in
the
code:
one
10
a
and
one
10
9
that
you
suggest
be
revised
is
that
I'm,
assuming
that
revision
is
not
happening
until
the
Ethics
Board
goes
through
their
whole
analysis
and
comes
to
us
and
all
that,
okay,
that.
AG
AC
Z
AH
Z
AC
Z
Z
A
You
next
on
the
agenda
is
the
discussion
of
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act
policy,
so
believe
it
or
not.
We're
only
we're
all
really
glad
that
people
are
here
because,
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
going
on
in
the
community.
The
city
clerk
was
good
enough
to
afford
the
meeting.
Then
it's
from
the
25th
I'm
gonna
read
the
meeting
minutes
just
so.
People
are
clear
on
what
did
or
didn't
happen
at
the
last
meeting
because
I.
We
of
course
heard
all
the
comments
and
a
lot
of
people
seem
to
have
had
some
misunderstandings.
A
A
Think
alderman
Fisk
had
pointed
out
that
the
previously
designated
FOIA
officer
is
obviously
no
longer
the
city
clerk.
So
clerk
greed
is
no
longer
the
clerk
and
I
think
his
great
I'm,
sorry
court,
green
clerk
read
is
the
clerk
clerk.
Green
is
no
longer
the
clerk
and
and
of
course
it
would
not
be
appropriate
that
he
remain
the
designated
FOIA
officer
and
switching
pages.
Here
we
do
have
the
memo
here.
The
item
is
broken
out
in
a
tooth
and
two
aspects.
We
have
the
the
policy
itself
myself.
A
Other
staff
members
have
talked
to
clerk
read
a
number
of
times
and
trying
to
develop
I
think
something
that
will
be
a
workable
policy.
The
next
request
system
is
something
that
was
in
place
for
well
over
a
year
before
he
was
here
personally
I
never
paid
particularly
close
attention
to
it.
Some
things
came
to
my
attention,
and
these
were
these
were
more
concerns
about
how
the
next
request
system
operated.
A
A
So
in
my
8
years
here,
we've
been
very
very
focused
on
transparency
when
I
look
back
over
the
eight
years
when
I
started
and
and
unfortunately,
none
of
us
actually
none
of
us
get
to
shadow
our
predecessors,
I
elected-
we
jump
right
in
but
since
I
started,
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
access
to
information
has
greatly
improved
and-
and
we
want
to
keep
that
trend
going,
it
is.
It
is
a
great
value.
It
is
a
great
importance
to
every
single
one
of
us
and
and
that's
something
that
we
strive.
A
AH
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
and
make
sure
that
I
understood
you
correctly
what
I
understand,
and
that
is
that,
right
now
our
designated
FOIA
officer
is
rodney
green
and
the
two
members
of
his
staff,
neither
of
which
are
in
the
office
anymore.
So
right
right
now
we
don't
have
a
FOIA
officer
who
is
elected
official
or
a
person
on
staff
could
corporation
council.
Could
you
just
explain
that
to
me
the.
AG
AI
I,
just
want
to
you
know,
respond
in
in
that
I
think
it
should
be
written
into
our
city
code
that
the
city
clerk
is
the
FOIA
officer.
That
way,
there's
no
confusion
moving
forward
about
who
it
is
and
that
gets
written
into
the
color
that
will
solve
this
issue
moving
forward.
Well,
we
don't
have
to
individually
name
FOIA
officers,
so
it
can
simply
read
the
clerk
and
his
staff
or
the
FOIA
officers
on
a
rainy.
AA
A
It's
my
understanding
that
the
clerk's
office
was
doing
the
work
and
when
the
nuclear
was
elected,
the
clerk's
office
continued
to
do
the
work
and
continues
to
this
day.
So
I
don't
think
until
until
issues
came
up
with
the
FOIA
policy,
which
was
I
think
three
or
four
years
ago.
Nobody
went
back
and
looked
at
that
particular
document
until
recently.
A
AA
Z
Granny
members
of
the
committee
of
is
I
think
the
clerk
will
about
to
tell
you.
There
are
multiple
staff
members
of
multiple
departments
that
work
on
FOIA
requests.
There
was
one
individual
at
the
police
department
whose
primary
job
it
is
to
to
focus
on
that
there
are
others
there.
There
are
others
in
other
parts
of
the
organization.
AH
Z
You
so
the
records,
practically
speaking,
most
of
the
requests
from
the
police
department
come
for
records,
so
miss
Pratt
is
the
supervisor
of
the
records
division.
The
other
individual.
Sarah
has
the
most
practical
knowledge
and
she's
able
to
process
the
information
quickly.
So
that's
we're
out
with
the
police
department
and.
A
AI
Gets
sent
to
the
requester
is,
but
so
it
works
is
when
a
four
year
request
comes
in
unless
it's
for
you
know
it's
documents
that
are
held
directly
by
my
department,
which
you're
relating
to
ordinances
and
other
records
produced
by
this
body.
We
send
it
off
to
the
proper
department.
So
if
it's
an
request
for
emails,
for
example,
we
send
that
off
to
the
IT
department
and
someone
from
IIT
pulls
those
records,
and
then
you
know
those
records.
AI
In
my
belief,
an
unredacted
copy
of
those
records
should
come
to
my
office
and
also
to
the
law
department
and
the
way
it's
been
set
up
in
the
past.
For
example,
the
law
department
would
be
then
be
responsible
for
redactions
of
documents,
which,
and
in
my
belief,
is
something
that
could
be
taken
on
by
the
clerk's
office.
So
so
then
we
can.
The
clerk's
office
will
then
could
then
be
responsible
for
determining
whether
records
are
unduly
burdensome
under
the
FOIA
Act.
AI
When
it
comes
to
the
police
department,
same
thing,
documents
go
to
they
come
into
my
office.
They
are
then
submitted
to
the
proper
Department.
If
it's
the
police
department
to
the
police
department,
the
police
department,
Miss
Jones,
is
responsible
for
add
action
as
they
send
it
off
to
me
and
then
I
released
it
if
it's
anywhere
else,
that's
physically
located
here
in
this
building
then
same
process,
but
we
typically
just
receive
the
unredacted
copy
and
we
work
to
get
it
to
the
requester
or
help
requesters
narrow,
a
requester
figure
out.
What
they're?
Looking
for?
Okay.
AI
The
next
request
system
make
helps
us
stay
in
compliance.
It
gives
us
notifications
as
to
when
documents
are
due,
and
it
keeps
a
log
of
all
of
the
communications
that
are
made
with
the
requester,
which
is
required
by
FOIA
law
and
and
since
this
vote
was
taken
on
the
25th,
my
office
has
been
without
the
next
request
system,
and
you
know,
as
you
read
the
motion,
I,
don't
believe
that
that
was
the
intention,
but
that
was
what
happened,
and
so
we've
had
to
deal
with
FOIA.
You
know
that
and.
AC
Right
so
not
being
I'm,
not
an
expert
here.
My
thoughts
from
the
memo,
so
the
first
part
about
the
resolution-
and
you
know
making
these
parameters
in
place.
I
clerk
read,
spoke
some
about
some
parameters
that
he
was
setting
up
on
the
next
request
system.
I
guess
my
overall
concern
is
to
make
sure
that
in
using
the
next
request
and
being
very
transparent
as
a
city
that
we
also
balance
that
or
don't
I
guess,
don't
overshoot
and
lose
protection
of
citizens
right
so
juveniles,
you
know
personal
information
so
on
and
so
forth.
AC
You
know
that
those
are
the
two
things
that
I
would
like
to
see
happen.
So
I
do
think.
The
next
request
some
it's
helpful
and
should
go
back
up
because
in
this
day
and
age
of
technology
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
people
not
have
to
fax
ma'am
even
has
a
fax
machine,
but
you
know
or
call
or
come
in
or
whatever.
AC
However,
I
do
want
guarantee
or
insurance
that
guarantees
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
when
the
information
is
up
there
in
terms
of
requests
and
then
when
information
travels
back
from
whatever
department
that
the
redactions
are
correct,
that's
a
post
in
this
correct
that,
if
it
needs
to
go
just
to
an
individual,
that's
what
happens
that
if
it
needs
to
go,
you
know
if
they
can
go
elsewhere.
I
would
like
to
see
us
using
the
open.
What
do
we
call
it?
AC
AC
So
if
someone
wants
to
request
how
many
streets
we
plow
on
with
that
cost
or
whatever,
and
they
do
that
through
FOIA
and
and
and
their
friend-
wants
to
see
it
as
well-
maybe
that
just
goes
on
the
open
data
portal
page
or
something
so
that
you're
not
trying
to
write
forth
through
and
look
for
your
friends,
name
or
date
or
whatever
for
that
information.
I
know
the
police
have
a
new
dashboard
up.
There
I
think
that's
another
area
that
we
could
use
to
post.
AC
If
someone
has
FOIA
is
something
that's
not
private,
that's
not
so
I!
Guess
it's
not
private
that
we
can.
You
know,
work
with
the
police
department
to
make
sure
that
that
stuff
has
maybe
gone
on
a
police
portal
page
so
that,
if
folks
are
looking
for
things
that
are
just
police
specific,
they
know
what
page
to
go
to
I.
AC
Don't
know
who
currently
manages
the
open
data
portal,
but
I
would
think
that
that's
something
that
the
clerk's
office
can
work
with
IT
or
whoever
does
that
to
make
sure
the
appropriate
information
is
going
up
there,
but
I
do
think.
This
is
something
that
you
know.
I
I
do
FOIA
is
not
here
but
other
places,
and
it
does
seem
like
in
other
places
where
there's
a
staff
member
who
does
FOIA
I'm,
always
surprised
that
they
send
me
the
information.
But
then,
if
you
go
on
their
website,
there's
no
other
way
to
find
it.
AC
AC
So,
instead
of
just
being
able
to
click
on
my
name
or
click
on
Public
Works
and
see
in
general,
what
I
requested
that
that
data,
if
it's
not
you
know
violating
the
privacy
of
our
citizens
or
obviously
breaking
in
law,
whatever
FOIA
law
says
that
that
information
can
be
accessible
by
clicking
and
getting
the
PDF.
If
that's
what
people
are
interested
in
doing
and
then
my
last
thing
on
here,
which
I
guess
is
just
a
clarification
point
on
page
14,
where
it
talks
about
a
checklist,
can
you
corporation
counsel?
Can
you
just
explain?
AC
AF
AC
AC
AC
So
perfect,
so
yeah.
So
those
are
my
overall
thoughts.
I
I
do
like
the
idea
of
being
a
little
more
between
the
legal
office
and
the
clerk's
office,
as
well
as
the
clerk's
office
in
the
police
department,
but
I
do
want
to
say,
I
would
support
keeping
FOIA
in
the
clerk's
office
but
again
making
sure
that
our
citizen
base
is
is
kept
private
and
protected
and
then
using
the
police
portal
that
they
have
been
doing
a
pretty
good
job
about
getting
stuff
up
there
and
then
using
our
open
data
portal
on
the
city
website.
AI
I
just
want
to
clear
up
us
some
of
alderman
Fleming's
concerns
number
one
with
the
protection
of
the
residents
privacy
on
the
25th
I
laid
out
a
number
of
procedural
changes
to
how
FOIA
will
be
processed.
That
will
ensure
all
of
those
parameters
that
you
laid
out
are
met.
One
would
be
the
you
know,
embargoing
of
requests
that
would
give
a
five
to
ten
day
window
before
anything
goes
live,
and
so
that
would
give
us
a
two-step
verification
system
to
make
sure
that
everything
has
been
properly
redacted
before
anything's
released.
AI
I'm
also
agreeable
that
all
police
reports
should
be
released
only
to
the
requester
and
I
think
anything
beyond
that.
We
have
to
have
a
thoughtful
discussion
on
I
also
want
to
work
with
every
department,
the
legal
department
and
every
other
department,
the
city
to
put
together
a
list
of
all
documents
that
are
available
by
a
department
and
and
clearly
break
down
that
list.
That'll
make
it
easier
for
folks
just
know
what
they
can
access
and
then.
AI
Lastly,
you
know
I
serve
on
the
open
government,
the
open
data
governance
team,
which
will
be
bringing
forth
a
resolution
to
the
council.
I
believe
next
month
in
the
early
November,
regarding
our
open
data
policy,
we've
switched
over
to
a
system.
It's
called
secreta
Chicago
uses
that
system
as
well.
AD
Thanks
yeah
I
did
I
certainly
never
ran
for
mayor
and
thought
we
were
gonna
have
a
huge
conversation
about
FOIA.
You
know
it
never
came
it
never
came
up
during
the
campaign.
I
think
everybody
on
you
know
the
former
Council
this
council
and
in
the
public
in
general,
thinks
that
we
should
have
open
government.
You
know
and
we
should
be
transparent
and
we
should
be
accountable.
The
question
becomes:
was
there
an
issue
with
the
way
that
we
were
handling
FOIA
before
clerk?
AD
Read
it
came
into
office
and
so
I
just
want
to
explain
how
I
understand
we
handled
FOIA
prior
to
that,
and
so,
if
a
FOIA
request
came
into
the
city,
the
city
fulfilled
that
route
for
a
request
and
delivered
that
FOIA
response
to
the
requester,
and
that
then
that's
how
it
was
handled
and
we
did
have
the
next
request.
System
and
information
was
put
up
on
to
the
next
request
system.
So
you
could
come
through
and
you
could
see
you
know
the
requests
that
have
been
made.
Did
you
want
to
add
something?
AI
AD
But
after
after
after
you
took
office,
I
think
you
know
very
well-intentioned.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
government
is
completely
open,
and
so
you
set
a
policy
that
said
that
not
only
will
I
fulfill
FOIA
responses
to
the
requester,
but
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
publicly
for
anyone
to
say
for
the
public.
Yes,.
AI
For
the
most
part
there,
what
did
change
is
that
request,
automatically
went
live,
and
so,
whenever
someone,
you
know,
put
something
in
that
automatically
went,
live
and
that's
something
I've
addressed
in
the
changes.
I,
yes,
with
with
a
certain
request,
information
was
released
just
to
the
requester
and
other
requesters
released
publicly,
and
there
were
you
know,
a
few
mistakes
along
the
line,
and
you
know
we
have
that
sure
sure.
AD
So
so
the
the
conversation
to
be
had
I
think
is
a
very
legitimate
conversation
which
is
should
FOIA
responses
that
the
city,
then
issues
go
to
the
entire
public
or
just
go
to
the
requester
I
believe
in
you
and
I
have
had
conversations
and
I've
said
this
to
anyone
that
that
wants
to
talk
to
me
about
this.
That
I
feel
strongly
that
we
ought
to
have
the
next
request
system
that
the
next
request
system
is
a
great
system
for
visibility,
for
anyone
to
see
the
requests
that
have
been
made.
AD
So
you
could
say,
oh
I'm,
interested
in
request
number
37
could
I
see
that
same
response,
but
that
the
response
should
go
to
the
requester.
And
if
the
requester
is
you
know,
the
Evanston
roundtable
the
Chicago
Tribune
and
they
see
something
here
and
they
want
to
write
an
article
and
make
it
public.
They
can
make
it
public
if
it
goes
to.
You
know:
John
Smith
out
there
in
the
public,
and
he
wants
to
see
something
here
and
he
wants
to
put
it
up
on
his
own
platform.
Twitter's,
you
know
Facebook
whatever
it
is.
He
can.
AD
He
can
do
that
and
the
reason
that
I
feel
this
way
is
because
I
can
tell
you
in
the
few
months
that
I've
been
mayor
here.
If
somebody
said
I'm
on
a
FOIA
mayor,
haggerty's
emails
from
May
from
September
1st
to
September
30th,
here's,
the
kind
of
emails
that
would
go
out
there,
dear
mayor
I've
lost
my
job.
Do
you
know
of
any
openings
in
the
city?
Do
you
know
of
any
openings?
You
know
elsewhere
in
town
that
I
might
apply
for
dear
mayor,
let
me
tell
you
about
my
neighbor
Smith.
AD
This
guy
is
doing
all
sorts
of
illegal
activities.
Okay,
he's
building
a
new
addition
to
his
house
and
I'm
certain.
He
doesn't
have
all
the
proper
permits.
Dear
mayor,
my
neighbor
has
a
pitbull
that
will
not
stop
defecating
on
my
property.
Dear
mayor
you're,
an
idiot
I
can't
believe
that
you
would
do
this.
These
are
the
kind
of
emails
I
get
in
under
a
policy
where
we
release
all
FOIA
responses
to
the
public.
All
of
that
information
could
become
public.
None
of
that
is
protected
by
the
FOIA
law.
Yes,
juveniles
are
protected.
Yes,
you
know.
AD
Sexual
assault.
Victims
are
protected
but
that
other
information
isn't
protected,
there's
a
reason:
it's
not
protected,
because
the
public
ought
to
be
able
to
know
who
our
elected
officials
as
well
as
other
city
officials,
are
communicating
to,
and
so
that's
why?
That's
why
that
exists?
So
you
can
see
who
everybody
is
communicating
to
so
the
policy
that
is
before
the
council
tonight
of
the
Rules
Committee
tonight
says
that
FOIA
responses
go
to
the
requester,
only
I,
think,
and
so
that's
one
thing
for
this
for
this
committee
to
consider.
AD
The
second
thing
that
it
says,
though,
is
it,
says
that
you're
going
to
group
into
categories
on
next
request
the
requests
that
come
in
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
so
certain
I'm
sold
on
that
I
think
that
there
that
the
public
ought
to
be
able
to
go
there
and
have
a
good
sense
of
what
these
requests
are.
So
they
could
say
to
themselves.
Oh
I'd
like
to
see
that
Boyer
response
that
the
city
provided
for
you
know
whatever
it
may
have
been.
AI
If
I
can
respond
to
I
mean
to
your
last
point
or
actually
I'll
start
with
your
first
point,
I
think
that's
you
know.
Mr.
Kline
mentioned
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
more
thoughtful
discussion
of
this
and
look
into
actual
PAC
opinions,
because
some
many
of
the
concerns
that
you
raised
are
actually
already
solved,
either
by
FOIA
law
or
by
binding
PAC
opinions,
and
so
that
information
you
know
if
someone's
like
my
neighbors
brown
head
and
their
dog,
keeps
pooping
on
my
lawn.
AI
That's
something
that
would
not
be
necessarily
released
by
FOIA
because
it
doesn't
have
it.
It
doesn't
serve
any
larger.
It
is
truly
personal.
That
seems
to
be
personal,
and
in
the
case
of
you
know,
someone
says
the
mayor
is
a
bonehead
or
whatever
is
determining
to
use.
Then
that's
also,
you
know
something
that
could
go
out
to
the
public.
AD
S
AI
The
second
thing
was
the
grouping
of
documents,
a
blanked
for
a
second
the
grouping
of
documents.
When
you
search
on
the
next
request
system,
it's
actually
already
you
can.
You
can
do
a
search
by
Department,
so
there
isn't
necessarily
a
new
step.
They
would
have
to
be
taken
to
make
that
feature
available,
but,
alongside
being
able
to
run
a
search
by
Department,
you
can
just
broadly
search
through
documents.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
should
also
address
in
this
policy
is
one
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
police
department.
AI
The
naming
of
requests
I've
made
this
request
of
the
department
to
no
longer
name
documents
after
the
requester
one
that
will
help
protect
some
an
anonymity
because
I,
don't
think
we're
going
in
the
direction
that
Chicago
has
where
we
want
to
list
necessarily
the
names
of
all
requesters.
That's
it's
not
a
practice
we've
had
in
the
past,
and
it's
not
something
that
you
know.
I'd
necessarily
advocate
for
so
changing
the
name
of
the
documents
from
the
requesters
name
to
a
more
broad.
A
AH
AH
Unlike
some
of
us
who
do
this
full-time,
when,
when
you
write
to
us,
that's
public
information,
I
mean
that's
public
record
everything
you
write
to
us
so
that
if
the,
if
the
mayor
is
correct,
that
there
is
a
request
for
all
of
the
mayor's
emails
for
May
2017,
then
the
clerk
is
going
to
have
the
decision
to
make
about
which
of
those
emails
to
share
and
which
not
to
share,
and
that's
fine
but
I.
Think
you,
the
public,
need
to
understand
that
when
you
participate
via
email,
you're
now
part
of
this.
AH
We're
here
to
help-
and
the
mayor
is
not
unusual
in
the
requests
that
he
gets.
We
get
a
ton
of
requests
asking
for
help
and
very
serious
concerns
that
affect
neighbors
and
friends
and
family
members
and
animals
and
garbage
and
all
sorts
of
things,
but
all
of
that's
public,
so
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
for
raising
that
I
think
it's
a
really
important
thing
to
stress
to
the
community
out.
There.
Z
AE
AE
Think
some
of
alderman
Fleming's
views
also
that
that
their
the
the
response
should
go
to
the
requester
I
appreciate
that
we
will
still
and
not
correct
me
if
I'm,
if
I
got
this
right,
I
mean
that
you
can,
for
instance,
you
know
you're
looking
for
you
know,
you're
looking
at
you
know,
your
topic
is
parks,
and
so
you
can
narrow,
but
you
want
to
see.
Oh
did
somebody
else
already
request
this
information,
so
can
so
you
can
search
and
then
just
gather,
FOIA
requests
on
next
request
that
we're
just
made
about
parks
you
and
right.
AE
So
you
can
do
that
so
I
think
if
that's
possible
I
think
that's
that
helps
the
efficiency.
It
helps
the
public
to
see.
You
know
if
somebody
else
asked
a
question
about
this
topic,
maybe
even
asked
a
better
one:
I
can
get
there
and
then
I
could
say
I'm,
making
the
same
for
a
request.
I
do
feel
strongly
that
that
it
itch
the
information
should
go
just
to
the
requester.
Because
of
the
issues
that
that
mayor,
Haggerty,
raised
and
and
ultimen
Fisk
we
do
is
right.
AE
We
do
I
think
a
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
that
when
you
write
to
us
that
it
is
a
public
document
and
sometimes
I
I,
just
gently
remind
people
that
I
have
people
write
to
me
and
say
these
are
my
questions,
but
please
don't
use
my
name
I'd
like
to
get
these
responses,
but
please
don't
use
my
name
in
any
way
and
I
tell
them.
I
won't
use
their
name
in
any
way
and
so
I
just
make
it
I'm
curious
and
I.
AE
Ask
a
department,
you
know,
I
have
a
question
and
and
then
then
I
send
the
response
back
to
the
person,
but
so
I
do
think
people
have
I.
Don't
think
people
expect
that
an
email
they
wrote,
maybe
about
not
being
able
to
pay
their
water
bill
to
the
mayor,
would
ever
show
up
publicly
on
that
next
request
system
and
so
I
think
that
that's
that's
something
that
you
know.
Maybe
they
they
should
expect
that,
but
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
them
and
then
actually
then
the
other
question
I
have
kind
of
may
I
finish.
AE
The
other
question
I
have
for
click
read.
Is
you
and
I
had
had
a
discussion
about?
Is
our
next
request
system,
then
hooked
up
or
connected
or
linked
with
Google?
Yes,
okay,
because,
unfortunately
for
all
of
us,
you
may
not
know
this
Google
never
deletes
anything.
It's
there
forever
and
so
I
think.
That's
another
important
aspect
of
this
that
so
let's
say
you
write
to
the
mayor
and
say
my
house
is
in
foreclosure.
Can
you
tell
me
what
programs
the
city
offers
about
this?
AE
AI
AI
We
have
the
option
before
I
took
office,
we
decided,
or
someone
decided
a
next
request
decided
that
Google's
spiders,
as
they're
called,
would
crawl
through
our
next
request
system
and
that's
a
very
technical
term,
meaning
that
that
it'll
catch
data,
that
is
in
the
next
request
system,
but
it
only
one
catches,
data
that
is
put
into
the
public
request
boxes.
So
if
someone's
name
was
associated
with
a
FOIA,
it
wouldn't
capture
that
it
also
wouldn't
capture
anything
that
is
in
the
release
document.
AI
So
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
google
and
find
things
that
are
in
the
PDF
that
that's
released.
It
only
be
what's
in
the
the
public
request
form
of
the
request
box,
but
then.
Secondly,
we
also
have
the
option
to
contact
Google
and
say
we
don't
want
you
sending
your
spiders
through
our
next
request
system
and
then
no
longer
well,
things
are
next
requested,
so.
AE
I
and
that's
good
to
know
so,
I
would
like
to
know
that
perhaps
from
you
clerk
read
or
from
someone
else,
the
the
pluses
and
minuses
of
having
those
spiders
go
through
our
system
and
then
let
us
make
that
decision
about
whether
we
want
to
do
that
or
not
so
then.
The
other
question
I
have
just
to
make
sure
I
understand.
So
if
we
follow
what
this,
what
we're
discussing
here
is
the
person
who
is
making
the
request
is
their
name
in
the
next
request
box,
or
is
that
or
they
are
they
can
they?
AI
So
one
as
it's
set
now,
the
requesters
name
is
not
made
public.
What
does
happen
and
then
you
know
that
Ottoman
Wilson,
rightfully
noticed
is
that
when
the
police
department
names
a
document,
a
PDF
it
right,
that's
that
may
get
captured
and
that
may
be
a
way
that
folks
can
find
it.
But
as
long
as
we
stop
naming
documents
after
the
requester
we
can
we
can
address
that.
Okay.
A
Right
and
that's
a
that's,
not
a
good
point,
so
one
of
the
conversations
clerk
reading
I've
had
is
with
regard
to
trying
to
go
forward
with
the
next
request
system
and
the
open
data
portal.
So
it's
it's
a
goal
to
try
to
figure
out
ways
we
have
it
in
place.
It's
been
in
place
for
a
long
time
is
to
find
ways
to
expand
that,
for
example,
if
we
have
staff
working
on
you
know
all
of
the
arrests
from
such-and-such
a
date
to
such-and-such
a
date.
A
A
You
know
the
you
know
going
back
to
I
forget
all
the
physical
thing
was
your
point,
but
this
there
was
a
legitimate
problem.
Okay,
collectively
we
identified
a
legitimate
problem.
We
have
had
a
collaborative
conversation
to
solve
a
legitimate
problem.
Okay
and
hopefully
people
can
appreciate
that
you
know
if
you,
if
you
look
at
what
we've
done
as
a
community
as
far
as
transparency
is
concerned,
I,
don't
think
anybody
could
take
issue
with
that
and
we
continue
to
strive
to
do
better
in
that
regard.
So
we've
got
this
draft.
AI
AI
Last
point
that
isn't
addressed
in
this
and
that
I
think
should
be-
is
the
format
that
we
release
documents
I've,
had
a
number
of
requesters
come
in
and
request
documents
that
are
in
XLS
format
or
CSV.
This
basically
means
machine,
readable
formats
and
it's
you
know
2017
any
database
that
we're
using
as
a
city
should
be
able
to
release
the
information.
That's
in
that
database
in
a
machine
readable
form.
AI
In
fact,
back
in
2013,
President
Obama
in
the
White
House
passed
a
executive
order
signed
an
executive
order
that
stated
that
all
government
agencies
as
they
are
renewing
their
software,
would
make
sure
that
that
software
is
capable
of
releasing
these
documents
in
machine
readable
format
which
again
any
software
company.
That's
making
most
of
the
software
that
we
use
is
made
specifically
for
government.
So
you
would
assume
that
folks
would
understand
when
creating
the
software
that
folks
may
FOIA
the
data.
A
A
AI
A
I
guess
we've
discussed
that
one
of
the
items
we
do
have
to
attend
to
is
we
do
have
to
designate
a
designee
for
officers
and
I
think
obviously,
I
would
submit
that
I
would
submit
that
the
city
of
Evanston
is
Clerk's
office
and
the
deputy
clerks
be
designated
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
indicate
that
there
is
a
first
of
all.
A
This
is
a
collaborative
effort,
so
this
is
a
collaborative
effort
amongst
every
department
in
the
city
that
keeps
records,
so
the
clerk
works
with
these
departments
works
very
closely
with
the
law
department
and
you
know
making
sure
that
it's
done
properly
and
correctly.
So
people
get
the
right
information,
that's
key,
but
also
that
we
so
we
protect
the
rights
of
others,
knowing
that
we
follow
the
law,
so
it
suggests
that
we
designate
the
city
clerk,
deputy
clerk
or
clerks
and
representative
from
the
law
departments
that
that
be
my
suggestion.
AA
AA
AI
AA
A
AA
AA
AC
I,
don't
have
the
right,
Robert's
Rules
language
here,
but
I
would
so
I
guess
I
would
like
to
see
the
clerk's
office
remain
the
FOIA
officers
and
then
have
the
legal
team
continue
in
the
capacity
that
they
currently
serve,
in
which
I
don't
think
as
a
designated
for
officer.
But,
however,
they
work
together
with
this
checklist
and
such
so
not
a
designated
play
officer,
but
I,
counselor
or
I,
don't
know
what
their
I
don't
know
how
they
have
a
term.
At
this
point
friendly.
AF
AC
A
Okay,
mayor
Haggerty,
so
I
just
have
a
question.
AD
We're
saying
is
that
I'm
just
I'm
speaking
about
the
proposal
up
here,
but
is
that
sort
of
an
order
type
of
thing,
meaning
that
if
the
clerk,
the
clerk
is
the
FOIA
officer
and
if
he
is
not
available,
it's
the
deputy
clerk
and
then
if
the
deputy
clerk
is
not
the
FOIA
officer,
then
it
reverts
to
this
third
person
in
the
law
department
I
just
like
to
understand.
Procedurally,
how
that
will.
AG
The
Freedom
of
Information
Act,
the
corporate
authorities,
the
City
Council,
can
designate
one
or
more
employees
or
officers
to
act
as
FOIA
officers.
Those
FOIA
officers
are
tasked
under
this
statute,
with
from
gaining
rules
and
regulations
for
responding
to
requests
and
providing
the
information
accessible
on
a
website.
That's
required
under
the
FOIA
Act.
AG
If
I
could
just
speak
to
to
the
issue
of
the
FOIA
officers.
I
think
that
the
problem
with
the
with
the
first
motion
is
currently
styled
with
all
due
respect.
Alderman
Wilson
is
there
is
the
problem
of
sequential
order
and
different
lines
and
spans
of
authority.
If
there
is
a
clerk
with
a
deputy
clerk
and
then
a
staff
member
in
the
law
department,
that's
that's
not
going
to
be
very
clear.
AG
I
think
that
it
would
be
more
appropriate
if
the
will
of
this
council
in
this
committee
is
to
designate
the
city
clerk
as
the
FOIA
officer
with
a
deputy
clerk
that
the
staff
and
would
apply
to
all
staff
across
the
board.
That
staff
has
the
responsibility
to
comply
with
his
fiduciary
obligations
to
cooperate
with
the
FOIA
officer
and
timely,
responding
and
accurately
responding
to
requests.
AG
A
AI
AI
A
AA
AC
A
AC
A
Just
one
person,
if
I
understand,
incorporation,
that's
right.
Sorry,
it's
the
city
clerk,
but
obviously,
as
we
just
described
this
is
this
is
a
collaborative
effort
by
the
entire
city.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
and
okay.
So
that's
my
motion.
It
was
seconded,
it's
not
Noren
it.
So
it's
a
resolution.
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Z
A
A
A
Wasn't
so
bad?
Was
it
it's
a
little
late,
but
okay,
next
resolution
aspect
of
the
resolution
is
to
direct
the
city's
law
department
to
continue
its
legal
support
and
review
regarding
city,
FOIA
responses
and
appliance
purpose
practice,
and
it's
adopt
the
rest
of
the
page
and
a
half
of
details
of
that
is
there
a
second
for
them?
Second,
on.
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AA
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AI
AI
AA
AD
I'd
be
caught
I
personally
I'm
cautious
on
the
idea
that
you
can
opt
out
or
you
can
opt
in
for
this
to
be
public.
I
mean
again
I
feel
strongly
that
the
request,
a
FOIA
request,
should,
in
the
response,
a
FOIA
response
should
go
to
the
requester.
Only
so
again
you
take
you
take
the
exam
you,
but
let's
just
follow
I
think
I
just
heard
you
say,
because
you
take
the
example.
You
say:
I
want
mayor,
haggerty's
emails
from
September
1st
to
September,
30th
and
I
check
a
box
and
say
yeah.
AD
AC
A
AG
The
will
of
the
chair
I
would
also
suggest
that,
based
upon
the
discussion
that
was
had
tonight
and
clerks,
read
clerk
reads
many
suggestions
that
he
take
the
laboring
or
with
respect
to
revising
the
policy,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
we're
having
to
try
and
take
tonight's
remarks
and
boil
them
down
into
a
policy.
So
I
think
that
it's
appropriate
for
clerk
read
to
have
the
policy
and
then
insert
his
suggested
revisions
based
upon
some
of
the
new
information
with
respect
to
spiders
and
whatnot.
That
right.
AC
AG
A
Z
Second,
mr.
chair:
we're
not
proposing
the
next
council
meeting,
okay!
Well,
what
didn't
work
that
needs
to
be
done!
I!
Think
your
next
regular
reading
on
November
13th
is
probably
sufficient.
I
think
they'll
kind
of
give
the
clerk
enough
time
to
do
that.
Otherwise,
it's
a
week
less
than
a
week
and
I,
don't
think
that
said,
makes.
A
AI
You
know
if
we
can
do
I
think
it
is
possible
to
do
that
tomorrow.
It
it
with
the
next
request
system
down
it's
made
processing
for
days
in
my
office,
extremely
difficult
and
and
we've
lost
the
tracking
system
that
we
had
with
the
next
request.
I
think
it's.
It
would
be
as
easy
as
a
phone
call
tomorrow
to
say
that
people
can
start
making
requests
on
next
request
again
or
at
least
allow
in
the
clerk's
office.
Maybe
until
the
policy
comes
back
to
use
the
next
request
system
just
to
make
request.
AI
Z
AI
Z
Perhaps
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
we
would
leave
that
at
least
until
November
14th,
so
that
the
clerk
has
access
to
the
system
to
fulfill
the
requests
but
to
leave
the
requests
and
it
the
what's
the
term
that
you
used
embargo
builder
for
for
public
view.
But
the
system
can
still
be
used
to
fulfill
the
requests
and
to
provide
you
information,
I.
Just.
Z
AI
AC
AD
But
we
just
said:
okay,
the
clerk's
office
is
going
to
revise
I,
guess,
Exhibit,
A,
okay
right,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
the
council
ought
to
make
sure
that
they're
clear
about
because
I
just
you
know,
I
mean
the
clerk.
Read
and
I
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
this
and
we
have
a
difference
of
opinion.
You
know,
clerk
read
definitely
feels
like
all
FOIA
responses
should
go
to
the
public.
Okay
I
mean
they
yeah
and
that's
okay.
AD
I
mean
there's
people
out
there
that
think
that
and
I
and
I
think
differently.
Right
I
think
it
should
go
just
to
the
requester
and
so
I'm
just
afraid.
We're
going
to
come
back
here
in
a
couple
weeks
if
this
exhibit
a
is
different
in
that
particular
aspect,
I
think
some
of
this
other
stuff
yeah.
We
can
talk
about.
You
know
what's
in
the
next
request
system,
and
what
does
that
look
like.
Q
AC
AC
That
speaks
to
that
that
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
we
have
that
in
our
policy,
but
I
guess
the
way
I
understand
this
is
that
the
clerk
is
going
to
work
on
the
policy
it
gets,
maybe
in
conjunction
with
the
legal
department
and
if
they
come
back-
and
it
says
everything
is
public,
then
we
as
a
council
decide
if
everything
is
public
or
not
right.
Do
we
not
have
the
power
to
edit
that
piece
of
the
policy
based
on
a
vote?
Of
course.
A
And
then
I
think
that's
part
of
our
future
conversation.
The
way
understand
it
is,
as
the
technology
exists
right
now
we
can
turn
the
next
request
system
on
people
can
submit
their
requests.
That's
the
anybody
can
get
their
responses,
but
none
of
it
will
be
published
on
the
internet
until
we
develop
the
policy.
Is
that
a
correct
recap?
Yes,.
AE
AE
Y
A
Opposed
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
only
other
action
item
on
the
resolution
list
is
and
I
don't
think.
This
is
an
issue
direct
that
the
clerk's
office
maintain
all
FOIA
related
documents
after
the
city
responds
to
the
requests
with
no
post
response,
edits
or
changes.
This
directive
will
align
with
the
clerk's
ministerial
duties
as
a
record,
keeper
or
I
think
we're
all
clear
on
that
direct
the
city
clerk
to
have
regularly
scheduled
Google
Calendar
meetings
with
the
staff
to
address
for
you
issues
in
a
regular
matter.
AI
A
Oh
so
I
move
that
we
do
that
make
that
direction.
Is
there
a
second?
Second
all
those
in
favor
aye
any
opposed,
okay,
long
meeting
but
I
think
we
got
a
lot
accomplished.
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
your
input.
Thank
you
for
the
to
the
council
and
to
clerk
read
and
to
the
mayor
for
a
thoughtful,
thoughtful
discussion
and
some
some
good
work.
Do
we
have
any
business?