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A
A
D
I
am
what
no
just
they
just
a
report.
No
just
the
report.
As
we
reported
the
last
time,
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
the
ICM,
a
format
that
they
had
sent
out
to
us.
D
We
did
that
we
met
in
all
of
and
Grover
was
ascribed
and,
and
you
received
on
an
email,
the
draft
copy
that
we
would
like
for
each
one
of
you
to
look
at
now
and
if
you
want
to
make
any
additions
deletions,
we
will
love
to
have
those
tonight
or
at
least
in
the
next
couple
of
days,
so
that
we
can
then
make
the
final
copy
and
I'll
send
it
out
to
you.
So
we
can
begin
the
process
and
where.
E
D
A
Check,
okay,
all
right,
I,
anything
else;
okay!
So
all
right,
so
we'll
review
that
cuz
when
I
was
talking
today
with
alderman
Grover
I,
didn't
really
understand
that.
Well.
D
E
The
the
draft,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
rough
draft,
went
from
email
from
mr.
Anselmo,
a
first
which
would
have
been
went,
ok,
I,
don't
know
friday,
thursday
friday
and
then
included
both
the
icma
materials,
a
draft
that
incorporates
our
old
evaluation
form
into
the
icma
proposed
form
and
additional
materials
to
review,
and
then
we
can
send
it
back
out
again
or
just
print
hard
copies.
It
makes
it
easier,
but
we.
D
A
F
D
F
F
Think
the
practice
has
been
that
that
translates
into
the
assistant
to
the
mayor
and
city
council,
as
well
as
the
staff
of
the
City
Clerk's
office,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
municipal
code
that
specifically
addresses
that.
So
we've
relied
on
that
as
a
past
practice
for
a
number
of
years.
I
know
that
anecdotally,
upon
my
arrival
in
2009,
there
was
a
staffing
issue
in
the
City
Clerk's
office
with
mr.
F
Greene
and
I
worked
on
together
and
relied
on
that
past
practice
for
the
hiring
of
an
employee
and
made
it
clear
in
that
hiring,
for
example,
but
that
individual
was
not
subject
to
our
personnel
rules
served
as
an
at-will
employee.
So
in
our
investigation
of
this,
we
have
discovered
that
we
have
largely
relied
on
that
section
of
the
personnel
rules
and
past
practice
versus
anything
that
specifically
in
the
municipal
code.
F
So
if
the
council
this
evening
would
like
to
make
changes
to
any
of
this,
I
think
would
be
useful
to
incorporate
it
into
the
avastin
city
code.
What
has
been
either
what
has
been
the
practice
or
to
make
clear
that
a
new
practice
would
be
then
codified
within
the
code.
Mr.
Ferrar
I
think
that
generally
covers
your
memorandum
in
our
discussions
of
clerk,
green
and
I
have
discussed
this
and
I
think
I
have
represented
what
at
least
has
been
passed
off
till
this
point,
and
certainly
he
can
speak
on
other
matters.
F
F
F
Course
and
I
think
as
the
council
is
aware,
over
the
last
few
years,
we
have
done
a
lot
of
cleanup
in
the
in
the
city
code.
The
personnel
sections
of
the
city
code
are
are
not
extensive.
They
rely
on
the
prog
mated
personnel
rules.
As
you
know,
the
the
code
was
amended
substantially,
dealing
with
the
civil
service
system
to
focus
the
Civil
Service
Commission
and
was
re
recraft
it
as
a
public
safety,
Civil,
Service
Commission.
So
a
lot
of
the
language
that
appears
in
the
city
code
deals
with
police
fire
hiring.
F
A
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
actually
have
a
couple
questions
if
we're
comparing
what
the
best
comparing
ourselves
to
other
municipalities
and
the
best
practices
in
this
regard,
it
seems
that
we're
not
within
the
best
practice
of
what
majority
municipalities
do
with
political
appointees
is,
which
is
basically
what
we're
talking
about.
So
sorry,
if
we
have
information
on
on
that,
or
is
that
just.
G
H
Chair
members
of
the
committee
grant
for
our
corporation
counsel,
with
respect
to
the
issue
that
you
raised.
One
point
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
deal
with
hiring
with
village
or
city
clerks
is
also
informed
by
the
form
of
government
issue.
In
my
past
experience
as
village
attorney
for
other
municipalities
in
the
co
county
area,
they've
had
elected
village,
clerks
and
appointed
or
or
they've
run
as
part
of
a
ticket
with
the
mayor
of
that
particular
or
village,
president
of
that
particular
jurisdiction.
H
So
a
lot
of
the
hiring
practices
that
exist
in
other
jurisdictions
may
not
be
apples
to
apples
with
the
city
of
Evanston,
which
is
of
course
council-manager
form
of
government
within
the
scope
of
the
memorandum
and
the
the
look
that
we
took.
We
did
not
get
to
that
second
level
of
analysis,
which
you're
the
point
that
you're
leading
up
into
the
charge
that
I
understood
from
the
manager
and
other
members
of
the
committee
was
to
look
at
the
code
and
past
practice.
So
so
there
there
may
be
another
piece
that
could
inform
the
discussion
further.
F
In
all
members,
maybe
if
I
can
come
in
largely
in
under
a
council-manager
form,
the
role
of
the
city
clerk
is,
is
either
appointed
or
if
it
is
elected,
the
city
clerk,
if
I
practice
in
many
of
those
communities,
is
often
not
a
full-time
city
clerk.
So
you
have
sort
of
a
hybrid
here
where
you
have
a
council-manager
form
which,
generally
speaking
them,
would
have
all
the
staff
responsible,
the
city
manager,
but
a
part-time
clerk.
Perhaps
even
an
elected
part-time
clerk.
Here
you
have
an
elected
full-time
clerk,
so
we'd
be
happy
to
gather
more
data.
F
I
think
that
we
are
a
little
bit
of
a
hybrid
with
an
elected
full-time
clerk,
and
so
you
either
look
toward
the
the
the
strong
mayor
of
strong
bill
as
president
model
that
mr.
Ferrar
was
just
referring
to
the
council-manager
world.
There
are
fewer
full-time
elected
clerks,
so
it
would
be
harder
to
draw
so
everything.
It
really
becomes
as
many
things
that
the
council
deals
with
the
standard
in
evanston.
What
what
makes
the
most
sense
yeah.
G
Just
want
to
follow
up
my
my
concern.
Is
that
not
the
particular
people
that
are
in
these
spots?
I?
Don't
you
know?
Obviously
it's
DARS
positions.
This
is
not
about
dar
or
anybody
else.
It's
about
the
position
itself,
so
it
wont
to
be
really
clear
about
that,
but
the
notion
of
having
people
on
staff
that
aren't
it's
really
part
of
the
personnel
rules
in
the
same
way
and
that
are
the
political
points
I
think.
Currently
it
works
okay
and
maybe
previously
it's
worked.
G
Okay,
but
I
think
if
we're
talking
about
going
forward
and
making
sure
that
everyone's
on
the
same
playing
field
has
the
same
because
one
of
the
one
I'm
starting
to
think
of
thinking
of
that
where
we
all
have
I
guess
part
I
protections.
Thank
you.
I
was
like
couldn't
figure
out
the
word
protections
that
most
are
our
employees
have
and
that
the
city
manager
has
also
some
control
or
guidance
over
the
employees
within
the
building.
So
it's
just
in
working
in
government.
Previously,
I
think
political
having
political
appointees
can
sometimes
not
be
the
best
case.
D
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
confused,
because
this
started
out.
We
weren't
talking
about
the
clerk.
We
all
understand
that
the
clickers
elected
just
like
the
almond
tree
because
they
are
elected.
We
were
talking
about
the
employees
that
would
not
have-
and
you
know
that's
a
sign
to
the
ottoman
or
to
the
clerk
that
they
just
don't
have
any
rights,
and
I
just
don't
think
that
that's
fair
and
that's
the
it
was
the
position
of
those
employees
that
would
not
have
protection
that
we
were
talking
about.
G
D
Okay,
so
you
it
was
the
appointees
that
you
know
I
mean
everybody,
you
have
things
have
gone
round
fine
but
say
you
had
someone
who's
been
working
here,
ten
years
doing
a
great
job
and
somebody
else
gets
elected
and
they
decide
they
want
to
bring
in
their
own
people.
I
mean
those
folks
have
no
right,
so
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
way
we
want
to
do
business.
That
was
that
was
the.
That
was
a
premise
on
which
we,
this
was
brought
to
the
council
and
to
the
rules
committee,
seeing.
I
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
it's
it's
not
really
totally
correct
to
say
that
people
have
no
rights
because,
as
I
think
in
some
any
reference
constitutional
rights,
you
can't
be
discriminated
against.
All
of
those
things
are
still
in
place,
so
those
employees
have
all
of
the
ordinary
legal
rights
that
done
that
all
employees
have
it's
just
a
question
of
whether
you're
at
will
and
I
guess:
I'm,
not
as
troubled
by
it.
You
know
that
I
element
homes
through
the
idea
you
kind
of
got
to
I.
I
Don't
think
really
applies
so
much
in
evanston,
but
if
you,
if
I
think
good,
it
could,
but
in
a
different
context,
if
you
have
somebody
who's
working
for
an
elected
official
and
there's
a
contested
election,
and
this
person
has
been
working
for
that
elected
official
for
ten
years
and
that
person
loses
that
might
not
be
a
comfortable
relationship
for
the
person
who
ends
up
getting
elected
in
that
position.
So
I
think
those
kinds
of
things
have
to
be
considered
in
the
context
for,
for
these
particular
and
there's
a
tiny
handful,
the
employees.
D
I'll
know
Wilson
if
that
happened.
Just
take
the
scenario
that
you
just
mentioned.
If
the
employee
was
an
employee
of
the
city,
then
that
new
elected
official
would
have
the
right
to
talk
to
the
city
manager
about
getting
another
person
within
the
pool,
or
what
have
you
I'm,
not
saying
that
you
have
to
be
stuck
with
the
same
person?
I'm
not
saying
that
at
all,
but
I'm,
just
thinking
about
the
protection
of
the
employees
that
have
worked
and
should
have
some
kind
of
additional
protection.
I
understand
that
you
have
all
of
the
the
constitutional
things.
D
I
My
loved
one
last
point
was
it's
my
understanding
that,
in
throughout
the
city
we
have
hundreds
of
that
will
employees.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
we
draw
the
line
and
also
if
we
were
to
take
all
of
those
hundreds
of
employees
and
then
they
weren't,
it
will
then
you're
bringing
a
very
substantial
cost
as
far
as
benefits,
and
things
like
that
are
concerned
with
those
with
those
other
employees.
So
that's
something
that
has
to
be
taken
and.
D
I
think
we
resolved
that
at
the
last
meeting,
I
thought:
that's
why
we
were
we
just
concentrated
on
the
employees
that
were
assigned
to
the
elected
officials.
I
thought
that
was
the
way
it
went
if
I
remember
correctly,
we
did
not
understand
that
there
were
all
the
other
at-will
employees,
but
that
this
would
you
know,
okay,.
A
Right,
Emily's,
alderman
homes
keep
in
mind
that
we've
been
told
in
the
last
paragraph.
I
think
it
is
of
the
memorandum
that
if
the
council
wants
to
do
anything
about
this,
you
know
you're
free
to
micah
recommendation.
Guarding
this,
I
have
merit
is
dull
and
city
manager
of
upwards.
Do
you
want
to
let
you
probably.
C
F
Wanted
to
try
to
clarify
the
role
of
the
at-will
employees
that
the
personnel
rules
may
mr.
fryer.
If
you
could
help
me
out
here,
the
personnel
rules
the
at-will
employees
are
subject
to
those
personnel
rules.
The
the
phrase
that
we've
been
relying
on
in
these
discussions
are
that
employees
of
the
law
department,
the
city
manager's
office
and
those
employees
of
elected
officials
are
not
so
the
remainder
of
our
at
will.
F
Employees
who
are
not
in
the
city
manager's
office,
not
in
the
law
department
and
not
an
employee
of
elect
officials,
still
have
rights
to
the
personnel
rules,
in
addition
to
all
the
other
fair
employment
laws
above
and
beyond
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
we
have
tried
I,
think
too
thrilling
the
areas
of
dismissal
of
at-will
employees
to
provide
as
much
of
a
due
process
as
possible.
Is
that
a
fair
statement
which
we
afford
to
those
at-will
employees
and
I?
Think
we
also
extend
it?
F
F
If
you
feel
that
that
all
employees
should,
you
know,
be
be
subject
to
those
personnel
rules,
if
they're
at
will
or
not
at
will,
we
can
come
back
with
language
to
amend
the
code
to
say
that
if
you'd
like
to
codify
in
the
code,
the
current
practice,
then
I
think
we
could
come
back
with
language
to
do
that.
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
ambiguity
that
needs
to
be
cleared
up
on
either
side.
So
it
would
encourage
the
council
to
think
about
providing
some
clarity
there.
Mr.
A
H
A
That
could
be,
but
I
think
over
time.
The
city
clerk
has
become
more
and
more
full-time,
which
I
think
I'm
very
supportive,
as,
as
has
our
mayor,
become
full-time.
All
right,
I
think
we'd
beat
this
to
death
for
the
time
being
and.
I
A
B
Green
2016,
Brown
Avenue,
also
city
clerk
of
Evanston,
asked
the
comments
about
the
employees
of
at-will
employees
do
not
have
responsibilities
or
or
protection.
Let
me
read
from
you
from
what
I
found
off
the
line
concerning
an
at-will
employee
and
will
employee
refers
to
employee
whom
an
employer
or
or
on
PO
you
can
terminate
and
will
for
any
reason
or
for
no
reason
at
all.
B
But
the
bottom
line
is
that
an
employer
cannot
fire
employees
in
any
way
that
constitutes
discrimination,
a
violation
of
state
public
policy
or
contradictions,
any
actual
or
implied
promises
regarding
the
criteria
or
procedures
for
employee
termination.
That
still
leaves
a
wild
latitude
to
fire
employees
for
economic
or
performance
reasons
for
violating
the
law
or
internal
comp
company
policies,
or
even
for
no
reason
at
all.
In
some
cases,
just
be
sure
that
we
know
the
law
apply
your
own
policies
consistently
and
document
everything
when
terminating
an
employee.
B
A
A
I,
just
interject
something
I
am
very
concerned
and
I
see
our
city
attorney
sitting
here
that
we
get
into
a
personnel
issue
and
not
the
conceptual
issue
of
you
know
being
an
twill
employee,
no
matter
who
you
are
so
that's
that's
a
concern
for
me.
We
do
have
an
executive
session
tonight
and
I
think
it
is
personnel
matters
or
not,
but.
A
B
When
this
decision
again
came
up-
and
I'm
not
going
in
particular
see
here,
I
noticed
it
will
say
that
isn't
coming
because
of
the
last
person
that
will
I
let
go
that
the
court
let
go
in
the
clerk's
office.
I
know
there
was
questions
about
that
and
let
me
explain
some
things
to
you.
As
the
city
manager
said
before
we
had
gone
through
years
of
documentation
and
I
have
documentation
of
everything.
So
if
we
had
fallen
the
rules
and
regulations,
there
was
nothing
irregular
done
with
the
termination
of
that
employee.
B
F
There's
some
direction,
I
think
to
to
do
some
additional
research
which
we're
happy
to
do
mr.
Ferrar
and
I,
and
will
we
could
come
back
at
your
meeting
in
Oh,
golly,
jr.
Eddie,
but
I
think
that
anything
further
or
regarding
any
actions
of
the
clerk
and
in
fairness
to
the
clerk
in
being
respectful
of
Eleanor
laws
regarding
personnel
should
be
conducted
an
executive
session
and.
A
F
B
F
Madam
chair,
if
I
may
I,
think
one
option
that
the
council
could
consider
for
a
potential
of
amendment
to
the
code
would
be
to
indicate
that
at-will
employees
are
still
subject
to
the
personnel
rules,
and
so
we
have
worked
with
personnel
rules
to
provide
procedures
for
a
termination
for
all
employees
I'm
mr.
Ferrar
and
his
staff
has
worked
to
craft
that
language.
So
I
think
that
one
option
would
be
to
indicate
that
those
at-will
employees
are
subject
to
personnel
rules,
I
again,
I
think
probably
the
history
to
the
personnel
rules
section
here
in
evanston.
F
It
is
very
typical
that
the
staff
working
for
the
chief
executive
usually
is
not
subject
to
that.
I
think
the
law
department,
by
extension,
because
of
the
work
that
they
do
again
I,
think
you
could
look
at
ten
different
jurisdictions
and
probably
find
ten
different
configurations.
So
but
yes,
I
think
that
would
be
a
reasonable
option
for
the
council
that
they
may
wish
to
consider
that
will
employees
are
still
subject
to
personnel
rules.
F
The
other
twists
with
this
is
that
the
language
that
the
council
amended
in
the
city
code
that
dealt
with
civil
service
was
generally
pretty
broad
language
and,
as
it
would
mostly
spoke
to
police
officers
and
firefighters,
but
not
exclusively
to
police
officers
and
firefighters,
and
so
when
that
language
was
altered
to
specifically
refer
to
police
officers
and
firefighters,
a
little
bit
was
lost
in
translation.
I
think
in
talking
with
mr.
Ferrar
that
we
both
felt
comfortable
that
the
personnel
rules
covered
the
rest.
G
Mr.
Farrar,
when
you're
looking
at
this,
could
you
also
add
to
find
out
whom
the
political
and
point
ease
directly
report
and
whom
does
their
evaluations
and
if
evaluations
are
done
for
those
employees,
I
think
that's
also
one
of
the
protections
that
are
important
for
personnel
issues
that
in
valuations
are
done
regularly
and
that
we
have
that
I
come.
A
J
A
K
A
J
B
J
A
Time,
timeout
timeout,
that's
I,
think
you
need
to
sit
down
if
you
can't
deal
with
the
concept.
There's
a
public
policy
issue
here
it
is
not
a
personality
issue:
either
stick
to
it
or
sit
I'm.
Sorry,
I'm,
trying
I
I
feel
you
were
disrespectful
and
I
apologize
for
being
disrespectful
back,
but
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
personalities
or
people
who
are
incompetent
or
disappointment
with
the
council.
We're
sorry
about
that.
A
A
J
A
E
We
switch
every
other
meaning
it
seems.
This
is
an
example
of
the
revenue
fee
structure
is
set
by
state
statute,
not
yet
caught
up
with
the
way
people
use
911
and
with
the
shift
in
the
huge
shift
to
cell
phone
use
in
our
everyday
lives.
In
the
discontinuation
of
a
lot
of
land
lines,
our
fee
structure
for
911
Illinois
is
based
upon
landlines
really,
and
this
resolution
is
encouraging.
E
E
A
C
A
Works
and
there's
there's
no
doubt
that
every
single
community
is
facing
this
exact
same
thing
in
every
community
is
so
and
I.
Imagine
champagne
has
very
few
landlines
given
anyway,
all
right,
so
any
discussion,
any
other
comments,
any
other
points
of
view.
Hearing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
recommending
this
to
the
council
say
I
high
and
you
pose.
All
right.
Next
item
is
what
11
opposed
okay
Wow
okay
resolution
34
are
14
moved
to
support
continuation
of
the
Illinois
income
tax
increase
to
support
critical
government
services?
Is
there
a
motion
to
I
move.
I
It's
just
my
own
personal
thought
when
it
was
passed,
their
representations
made
and
I
don't
think
that
the
circumstance
has
changed.
I
think
if
this
was
going
to
be
the
the
course
it
should
have
been
chosen
as
the
course
when
it
was
when
it
was
passed
in
the
first
instance
I
feel
like
that
would
be
much
that
would
have
been
more
honest
and
truthful
and.
C
Thank
You
alderman
rainy
I,
certainly
agree
with
you
when
it
was
first
passed,
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
permanent
and
I
wish
that
they
had
said
that
then,
but
they
didn't
and
we
are
where
we
are
and
I
don't
think
any
of
us
are
going
to
like
the
cuts
that
are
going
to
come
to
city
services
if
the
income
tax
is
not
made
permanent
so
because
of
that
I
do
support
this.
However,
I
have
very
bad
news
to
tell
you
about
this.
This
proposal,
apparently
senator
I,
believe
Noland.
C
It
has
said
that
that
we
should
all
encourage
keeping
the
income
tax
permanent
and
then
we
would
be
able
to
afford
the
fireman's
minimum
Manning
pill.
This
is
definitely
if
we
pass
it,
not
an
indication
the
head.
We
will
then
have
enough
money
to
support
the
minimum
Manning,
but
the
cuts
that
will
have
to
come
are
going
to
come
heavily
on
municipalities
and
I
think
this
is
a
better
time
to
deal
with
it
than
to
scream
after
it
happens.
E
E
This
makes
a
really
good
case
for
the
extension
of
this
tax
income
tax
increase
as
making
it
permanent,
which
he
sees
is
kind
of
a
temporary
permanence
and
in
his
the
casey
makes,
for
it
is
really
about
the
size
of
the
hole
that
illinois
is
in
right
now
and
not
only
the
size
of
the
size
of
the
hole,
but
the
trajectory
of
how
big
this
whole
can
become
and
that
in
writing.
The
ship
of
illinois
everybody's
got
to
feel
some
pain
and
you
have
to
deal
with.
E
You
have
to
deal
with
illinoise
financial
issues,
both
from
a
revenue
side
and
a
in
a
spending
side
and
they're
doing
both
and
by
extending
this
temporary
income
tax
increased
as
a
permanent
measure
that
it's
just
asking
everyone
to
to
work
for
getting
the
state
on
the
right
side
of
the
ledger
and
and
again
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
not
easy
for
anybody.
But
it's
it's
going
to
be
necessary
for
everybody
to
be
feeling
the
pain
on
this
and
there
were
a
long
way
from
making
illinois
right
again.
I
And
generally,
I
agree
with
all
these
things,
but
I
don't
agree
with
how
springfield
continues
its
with
its
spending
and
in
the
absence
of
it,
what
I
deemed
to
be
more
responsible
spending
and
in
the
absence
of
and
and
I
recognize
that
our
representatives
are
different
than
the
representatives
in
the
state
as
a
whole.
So
I'm
much
more
pleased
with
our
own
representatives
only
make
that
clear.
I
However,
Springfield
hasn't
done
anything
to
help
us
out
with
our
pension
issues,
they're
only
helping
themselves
and
again
just
my
inclination
is
not
to
go
out
of
my
way
to
to
say
good
job
on
doing
this,
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
this
is,
is
just
too
encouraging.
So
and
that's
all,
that's
all
I
have
to
say
I'm
a
missile.
A
C
A
All
right,
I,
don't
see
any
other
comments
here.
Did
I
miss
anybody,
no
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
of
recommending
this
resolution
to
support
the
continuation
of
the
Illinois
income
tax
increase.
Now,
let
me
add
this
to
support
critical
government
services,
say
I,
any
opposed,
no
eyes.
Please
raise
your
hand.
One
two,
three
four
five
six
motion
passes.
M
A
G
For
new
business,
the
the
assessor's
office
staff,
could
you
remind
me
who
that
person
I
forgot
her
name?
Thank
you.
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
really
terrible
things.
Jay
is
reporting
to
and
helping
to
manage
her
daily
workflow.
So
I
think
there's
been
some
confusion
about
even
how
she's
to
answer
the
phone
of.
Is
it
city
of
Evanston
assessor?
Is
it
what
was
so
I?
Think
there's
been
some
comments
that
there's.
F
Happy
to
answer
the
question
now:
the
position
is
a
part
of
the
Administrative
Services
Department
Marty
Lyons
is
the
director
of
the
Administrative
Services
Department
the
position
reports
to
hit
test
his
eye
in
our
finance
division.
The
phone
would
be
answered.
City
of
Evanston.
We
have
been
talking.
We
do
not
have
a
permanent
person
in
this
position.
We
are
in
the
process
of
recruiting
for
a
permanent
person
for
the
position.
The
office
remains
the
same
as
they
are
today.
The
phone
numbers
remain
the
same.
The
services
remain
the
same
so.
I
Do,
pursuant
to
five
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
ilcs
120
/
to
a
I
move
that
the
City
Council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
the
agenda
item
regarding
our
agenda
items
regarding
personnel.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted,
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
is
an
enumerated
exception
under
the
Open
Meetings
Act.
To
this
exception
is
five
ilcs
120
/
2
a.c
one.
A
Should
we
call
them?
Thank
you.
Do
we
need
to
call
the
roll
sure,
madam
era,
we
need
to
call
the
roll.
Can
you
look
I'm.