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A
A
B
All
right,
I
think
my
name
is
Mary
was
in
ski
I'm.
You
just
want
to
make
three
comments.
One
is
on
our
one
when
you're
discussing
that
I
hope
that
we
have
all
proposals
out
there
completely
available
to
all
people
with
some
sort
of
criteria
that
the
whole
community
understands,
because
I
think
we
have
some
really
good
interest
in
that,
and
this
is
a
very
long
going
process,
as
we
know.
B
Second,
on
this
discussion
of
the
City
Council
on
our
four
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
that
involves,
but
if
it
does
involve
having
a
time
period.
That
starts
at
the
right
time
that
the
meeting
is
scheduled
for
so
they're
people
at
home,
and
people
here
know
when
to
show
up
for
that
meeting.
I
know
for
the
convenience
you
it's
nice
to
have
all
those
other
meetings
ahead
of
time,
but
the
public
comes.
You
know
when
I
schedule
meeting.
B
Are
you
scheduled
meeting
in
your
work,
I'm
sure
if
you're
going
to
start
a
meeting
at
2:30,
that
meeting
starts
at
2:30,
not
at
4:30,
so
I'm
thinking
for
respect
for
the
people
here
and
a
way
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
schedule
to
get
those
meetings
all
the
meeting
started
at
the
right
time,
maybe
not
back
them
up
to
each
other
so
quickly,
I
realize
your
schedules
are
all
busy,
but
there's
got
to
be
a
way
to
figure
this
out,
and
the
last
thing
was
that
means.
Actually
that
was
the
two
things.
C
C
The
linguistic.
The
economic
diversity
is
represented
on
any
committee.
That's
going
to
be
looking
at
the
responses
to
the
Harley
Clark
RFP,
so
I,
really
just
don't
want
it
to
be
a
thing
where
the
wealthy
and
well-connected
get
to
evaluate
it.
But
I
really
want
input
from
the
entire
community.
So
that's
my
message.
Thank.
D
Good
evening,
everyone
I
didn't
have
time
to
write
down
my
comments,
which
I
usually
do
been
running
all
day,
but
I
have
my
new
shirt
on
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
so
in
the
Rules
Committee,
so
you
make
up
the
rules
for
for
I,
guess
the
entire
city.
What
does
the
Rules
Committee
do
when
the
city
is
not
following
its
own
rules?
Who
do
I
talk
to
who
do
I
go
to
at
that
point?
D
So
the
next
thing
is
I
wanted
to
thank
well
actually
before
I.
Think
alderman
suffered
in
I
wanted
to
again
mention
dialogue.
There's
we're
talking
about
dialogue,
several
of
us
and
Mayor
said.
Maybe
we
can
bring
that
up
in
a
Rules,
Committee
and
figure
out
how
we
can
have
some
dialogue
with
the
residents.
E
There's
a
lot
of
things
on
here
with
wool
soundbites,
heaven
happened,
didn't
have
a
chance
to
read
all
of
them
and
like
you're,
discussing
the
moral
election
process,
so
is
that
dealing
with
whether
we
will
be
doing
Patterson
or
nonpartisan
and
will
that
discussion
be
held
out
in
the
larger
community?
That
is
something
I
always
asked
for
is
the
whole
meeting
in
the
larger
community.
E
So
the
community
can
have
some
input
or
will
it
be
just
a
closed
meeting
in
this
house
and
kind
of
concerned
and
I
didn't
know
we
had
any
policy
for
citizens,
resolutions
and
things
to
be
placed
on
the
agenda.
So
I
would
like
to
know
where
we
find
that
in
the
city
code
and
are
we
going
to
be
changing?
Something
is
something
wrong
with
the
way
we
doing
it
now,
because
we
have
resolution
for
two
main
people,
Park
streets
and
things.
So
is
there
something
wrong
with
that
process?
That's
a
question
I
would
like
answered.
F
A
A
Second,
thank
you.
It's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor
of
approving
minutes.
Please
say
aye
any
opposed
right
that
passes.
Next
we
have
items
of
consideration.
Our
one
is
ordinance:
18,
OH,
20,
amending
city,
title
1,
chapter
8,
city
manager,
at
the
direction
of
City,
Council
staffs,
submits
for
consideration,
adoption,
adoption
of
ordinance,
18,
OH,
20,
amending
title
1,
chapter
8
city
manager
for.
H
A
I
Alex
Ruggie
assistant
city
attorney,
the
committee
I'm,
not
sure
when
it
was
recognized
that
there
was
a
discrepancy
between
the
city
council
rules
and
the
ordinance.
The
ordinance
follows
state
law,
so
I
think
that's
why
it
was
in
there
I'm
not
sure
why
it
was
changed
to
seven
votes
in
the
rules,
but
I
know
at
prior
Rules
Committee
meetings.
It
was
the
direction
from
rules
to
change
the
ordinance
as
opposed
to
the
rules
so
that
the
ordinance
and
the
city
council
rules
match
so.
A
A
A
So
I'm,
you
know
I
think
I
voted
against
this
one
last
time
and
my
I'm
interested
to
see
why
it
was
changed
in
the
first
place.
I'm
not
familiar.
Obviously
I'm
only
been
here
one
term
from
my
recollection,
I'm,
not
sure
that
we've
from
from
what
I
remember
hearing
I'm,
not
sure
that
we've
terminated
a
city
manager
in
the
past
I'm
sure
we
have
at
some
point
but
I,
guess
I'm
concerned.
If
we're
changing
this
for
a
reason
or
just
or
what
the
reason
is
I
guess.
J
J
G
J
K
One
of
our
advantages-
the
headhunters
so
to
speak,
tell
us
is
that
we
we've
never
fired
a
city
manager,
so
we've
not
fired
a
city
manager.
So
that
wasn't
the
reason
why
this
has
been
changed.
I
think
we
changed
it
simply
to
be
equal
if
it
takes
a
certain
number
to
higher
than
we
want
it
to
be
the
same
to
fire
and
I.
Don't
think
it
should
be
easy
to
fire.
Look,
how
much
trouble
we're
having
to
hire
somebody
I
mean
it's
not
an
easy.
K
It's
not
an
easy
task
and
I
think
those
of
you
who
haven't
done
it
before
seem
to
think
it's
easier
than
it
than
it
is
it's
very
complicated
and
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
suggest
to
our
staff.
Is
you
take
out
the
materials
from
our
our
hiring
of
Wally
and
share
them
with
people
who
were
not
here?
I
came
across
the
the
booklet
that
we
got
for
the
final
candidates.
K
It's
this
thick,
it's
this
thick,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
couldn't
find
and
I
think
the
reason
I
couldn't
find
it
as
we
had
to
probably
turn
it
back
in
is
all
of
the
all
of
the
meetings
that
we
had
there
and
I
know.
This
is
a
little
off
the
topic
of
how
many
to
fire
and
how
many
to
hire,
but
just
going
back
to
the
other
thing
we
had
so
many
meetings
with
the
public.
K
We
had
lots
of
meetings
and
I
know
that
individual
aldermen,
because
I
was
one
of
them,
had
meetings
in
their
wards
specifically
for
the
various
candidates,
and
that's
fine
to
do
so.
You're,
not
hamstrung
about
doing
that
and
they're.
You
know.
Different
organizations
in
the
community,
neighborhood
groups
and
like
opal,
can
have
a
meeting
for
the
candidates.
There's
there's
just
no
restrictions
on
that.
A
Corporation
accounts
were
able
to
find
anything,
no
okay.
So
yes,
so
that
that
is
my
I
guess.
Concern
I
like
to
know
the
reason
that
we're
doing
things
Thank
You
alderman
Wilson
for
catching
that
correction.
Although
I
think
that's
something
we're
discussing
later
right,
then
we
have
an
agenda
item.
Speaking
of
the
mayor's
participation
and
council
things
or
am
I
making
that
up.
Okay,
sorry,
all
right!
Automobiles,
like
him
on.
L
A
L
J
All
right,
there
are
other
circumstances
where
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
are
parsed
out
separately.
So
you
know
13
years
from
now,
when
somebody's
looking
at
that.
Why
didn't
they
put
the
mail?
You
know
so
kind
of
like
we're
having
to
fix
these
other
things
that
we're
finding
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
crystal
crystal
clear.
M
M
A
So
the
minute
has
been
second
and
moved
in.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
of
supporting
the
amendment.
Please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
So
now
we
will
do
item
our
one
ordinance,
18,
OH,
20,
amending
city
title.
Excuse
me,
title
1,
chapter
8,
city
manager,
as
amended
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
N
J
J
M
A
On
to
items
for
discussion,
we
have
a
to
discussion
regarding
the
formation
of
the
review
committee
for
Harley,
Clarke
least,
request
for
Proposal
mayor
Haggerty
and
staff
request.
The
Rules
Committee
determined
the
process
for
appointing
members
to
serve
on
the
review
committee
for
RFP,
19-20
long
term,
lease
of
harley
clark,
mansion
and
coach
house.
This
is
for
discussion.
They.
J
My
impression
was
that
that
the
proposals
would
be
reviewed
to
ensure
that
they
were
compliant
with
the
RFP
parameters,
so
I
didn't
envision
and
I
could
be
remembering
it
wrong,
because
it's
been
a
while
I
didn't
envision.
You
know
a
whole,
you
know
an
additional
new
committee
to
start
over
again.
You
know,
I,
think
that
you
know
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
We've
talked
about
this
an
awful
lot
and
I
feel
like
at
this
point.
J
You
know
as
long
as
these,
the
the
respective
proposals
comply
with
the
RFP,
and
that
should
be
something
that
I
imagine
staff
would
handle.
They
were
usually
doing
those
those
compliance
checks,
we're
accountable
for
you
know
what
we
do
or
don't
do
and
I
think.
Then
it
should
move
on
to
the
council,
and
we
should
know
proceed
from
there.
K
O
O
A
N
N
So
that
sounds
like
a
that
that
should
go
to
staff.
None
of
us
have
seen
as
far
as
I
know
have
seen
any
of
the
responses.
So
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
them,
but
I
would
just
suggest
that
everybody,
if
you
haven't
reviewed
the
RFP,
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
that,
because
I
agree
with
alderman
Wilson.
This
is
not
necessarily
a
conversation
to
reopen
with
the
community
as
much
as
it
is
a
conversation
to
see
how
these
individual
submissions
comply
or
meet
the
criteria
that
we
established
in
the
RFP.
J
I
guess
to
further
flush
that
out
a
little
bit
I
think
it's
only
fair
to
the
people
who
have
opinions
and
have
a
strong
opinions
not
to
kind
of
have
to
go
through
that
process
multiple
times.
So
you
know
we're
going
to
entertain
it,
so
the
proposals
will
be
available
to
everybody,
but
to
kind
of
put
everybody
to
task
you
know
over
and
over
and
over
again
it
doesn't
seem.
You
know
it
seems
a
little
like
we're
passing
off
the
responsibility
and
as
hard
as
the
responsibility
is
I.
J
L
They
they've
met
all
the
criteria
that
we
listed
that
then
they
would
come
to
the
full
council.
I
guess
I
can
see.
That
is
then
being
quite
a
lengthy
discussion
where
we
might
want
to
have
presentations
from
the
different
proposals.
So
I
guess
I
would
suggest
that
that
not
be
on
a
regular
council
meeting
night,
but
that
we
have
it
as
a
special
meeting
or
something
very.
J
Good
point-
and
it
wouldn't
be
one
night
at
presumably
yeah
I-
would
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
structured,
as
you
know,
special
order.
What
has
to
be
done
did
dealt
with
one
night,
so
there's
an
introduction
and
action.
So
it's
not
just
you
know
one
occasion
that
there's
plenty
of
time
for
people
to
see
it.
Consider
it
and
weigh
in.
A
All
right,
so
you
seem
no
more
lights.
It
sounds
like
yeah.
M
A
I
was
gonna,
say,
sounds
like
we
don't
have
any
strong
support
for
moving
forward
with
the
new
formation
of
a
committee.
There's
some
direction
too
I've
done
separate
night.
Okay.
The
next
item
for
discussion
is
our
three
discussion
regarding
placing
citizen
resolution
on
City
Council
agenda
for
the
request
of
Alderman
Fisk
staff
seeks
direction
to
address
the
issue
of
whether
or
not
to
place
a
citizen
resolution
on
the
City
Council
agenda
that
the
City
Council
does
not
have
jurisdiction
over
Ottoman
Fisk
and
Ottoman
Wilson
for
comment.
I'll.
N
The
the
the
fact
is
that
we
don't
have
a
process
for
this,
and
so
we
can
have
some
very
nice
people
standing
up
at
the
microphone
asking
us
to
do
something,
but
we
haven't
put
in
any
staff
time
or
research,
or
we
have
no
other
opinion.
We
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
go
to
our
constituents
and
discuss
it.
We
don't
have
really
any
basis
for
a
full
and
complete
discussion
of
of
these
matters,
and
it's
while
it
may
seem
that
these
are
nice
things
and
we
should
encourage
them.
N
The
fact
is
that
we're
binding
the
City
Council
to
a
point
of
view
that,
frankly,
I
don't
think
is,
has
been
vetted
well
and
we
wouldn't
do
this
with
any
other
ordinance
or
any
other
action
on
the
part
of
the
council.
We
would
ask
staff
for
a
staff
report
and
staff
research
and
we
would
talk
about
these
things
that
are
at
our
Ward
meetings,
but
we
tend
not
to
do
that
with
these
resolutions,
so
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
I'm
criticizing.
N
Anyone
who
comes
forward
with
this
I
think
that
you
know
people
do
look
at
the
opportunity,
especially
when
their
issues
pertain
to
something
that
is
going
to
be
taken
up
by
the
state
of
Illinois
or
the
federal
government,
and
they
think
oh
good
I
can
get
the
you
know
the
city
of
Evanston
to
take
a
position
on
this
and
that
will
that
will
help
me
promote
this
in
front
of
the
body
who
actually
is
taking
action
on
it.
But
again,
that's
not
that's
not
what
we're
about
here.
N
J
Okay,
you
covered
I,
think
ninety-eight
percent
of
what
I
was
gonna,
say
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
of
what
the
other
2%
might
be.
I
do
think
that
we
want
to
just
kind
of
as
we've
flushed
out
what
the
parameters
would
be
leave
enough
room
so
that
if
I
can't
I
can't
them
trying
to
think
of
an
example
if
there
was
a
governmental
body
governmental
entity,
some
sort
of
like
policymaking
organization
that
was
soliciting
our
input
or
what
needed
our
input
on
something
that
we
would
have
room
to
do
that.
L
Well,
I
agree:
it
would
be
very
helpful,
I
think
to
have
guidelines,
because
then
we
have
a
way
to
tell
residents
yes
or
no,
that
we
can
try
to
consider
the
resolution
that
they're
suggesting
I
have
a
couple
of
guidelines.
I
guess
I
would
suggest
one
would
be
if
it's
going
to
be
a
communication
to
a
governmental
entity
whose
authority
is
would
affect
Evanston's
ability
to
act
on
a
local
policy
or
act
to
protect
community
resources
and
I
can
think
of
two
resolutions.
L
In
particular
in
February
of
2017,
we
passed
a
resolution
regarding
this,
the
state's
preemption
of
local
governments,
ability
to
regulate
pesticides,
because
we
we
really.
We
can
do
all
what
we
want
about
pesticides
on
city
property,
but
we
have
no.
We
can't
tell
private
property
owners
what
they
can
do
in
the
way
of
pesticides
on
their
property
because
of
the
state
preemption.
So
that
was
one
resolution
that
passed
overwhelmingly
and
another
one
where
we
were
asking
another
governmental
entity
to.
Let
us
have
control
over
what
was
in
Evanston's.
L
Property
was
MW
Rd
when
we
urged
them
to
reject
the
Cook
County
request
for
roadway
easement
across
isabella
woods.
So
that
would
be
one
category
that
I
would
like
to
think.
We
could
have
resolutions
for
those
and
then
most
recently,
of
course
we
had
at
least
I
was
working
on
the
resolution
regarding
the
treaty
on
the
prohibition
of
nuclear
weapons
and,
to
my
mind,
Evanston
is
a
member
of
mayor's
for
peace
and
were
a
member
of
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors
and
both
well.
They.
L
The
whole
idea
of
working
on
the
Treaty
of
the
prohibition
of
nuclear
weapons
is
a
very
it's
a
top
priority
of
Mayors
for
peace,
which
was
formed
by
leaders
in
Japan
as
a
result
of
the
nuclear
weapons
used
in
Japan
after
at
World
War
two.
So
we
we
became
a
member
of
mayor's
for
peace
in
2008,
and
it
would
seem
to
me
being
a
member
implies
some
kind
of
commitment
to
taking
action
on
in
response
to
their
requests.
L
So,
if
we're
not
prepared
to
follow
through
on
the
commitments
that
I
would
think,
a
membership
would
imply
I
guess
I
would
think
we
can't
be
a
member
of
these
groups
so
I.
Those
would
be
the
two
categories
where
I'd
like
to
have
us
say
that
these
guidelines
would
allow
us
to
consider
the
resolutions
all.
A
Right
mayor
parody,
thank.
G
You
I'm
supportive
of
us
having
resolutions
come
before
the
City
Council
I'm
fine,
with
putting
some
parameters
around
it,
but
I
think
it
brings
out
people
to
the
City
Council
Chambers,
who
don't
normally
come
out
here
and
I,
think
it's
valuable
as
a
community
for
them
to
sort
of
see
their
city
government
at
work.
I
echo
what
Alderman
Ravel
said
I
do
think
there
is
a
National
League
of
Cities
US
Conference
of
Mayors
and
at
times
there's
important
resolutions
that
they
would
like
to
see
come
from
cities
or
around
the
country.
G
A
All
right,
so
my
comment
is
I.
Think
what
automobile
brought
up
is
very
important.
I
think
that
probably,
in
my
opinion,
falls
outside
of
the
citizen
resolution,
because,
if
there's
something
from
National
League
of
Cities
or
one
of
these
other
organizations
that
we
belong
to
or
something
that's
happened
in
the
Springfield-
that
we
want
to
voice
an
objection
to
that's,
probably
not
necessarily
I,
don't
come
from
a
citizen.
We
will
maybe
know
that
from
our
correspondence
with
the
membership
organizations.
A
So
that's
something
that
will
come
either
via
the
mayor
or
the
city
manager's
office,
and
we
won't
see
what,
which
is
my
concern.
As
you
said,
these
items
that
you
know
one
take
up
a
lot
of
time
and
are
a
little
bit
more
symbolic.
Given
the
number
of
things
that
we
have
to
focus
on
and
as
alderman
Wilson
said,
where
we
can't
really
speak.
For
you
know
every
citizen
and
Emison
supports
whatever.
A
The
item
is
particularly
if
it's
not
something
in
which
we're
necessarily
well
informed
with
we
have
a
chance
to
go
back
to
our
citizen
base
and
ask
them
so
I
would
definitely
support
something
to
the
effect
that
alderman
Ravel
laid
out
that
would
that
would
again
not
fall
under
citizen
resolution.
That
would
just
be
an
intergovernmental
kind
of
a
resolution
that
we
could
still
make
some
parameters
around,
but
still
I
would
support
as
written
in
our
materials
here,
not
placing
citizen
resolutions
on
the
council
agenda,
quadrant
disc,
thank.
N
Think
any
action
that
we
take
as
a
council
needs
to
have
a
both
sides
presented,
not
that
there
is
a
pro
and
con,
but
that
that
so
we're
not
just
getting
one
side
of
a
from
a
group
that
may
be
promoting
something,
and
we
haven't
heard
the
other
side.
It's
been
a
surprise
to
me
and
I
think
we're
totally
unprepared
for
this.
N
When
you
know
folks
show
up
and
and
everyone's
everyone's
so
positive
about
about
an
issue
and
then
suddenly
there
are
opponents
that
show
up
and
we
had
no
idea
of
it,
because
it's
not
something
necessarily
that
we've
spent
any
time
looking
into
or
that
is
in
front
of
in
any
of
our
committees.
So
I
just
want
to
be
fair
to
everyone,
so
that
we
have
all
the
information
that
we
need
so
that
the
public
can
have
confidence
in
the
decision
that
we're
making
in
the
position
that
we're
taking
as
a
council.
A
All
right
singing
no
for
the
lights
for
discussion,
city
manager,
you
have
no
direction.
Okay!
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
moving
on
to
our
for
discussion
of
City
Council
minute
mini
meeting
schedule,
automatic
and
staff
request
discussion
of
the
standard,
City
Council
meeting
scheduled
determine
the
preferred
schedule,
whether
it
be
existing
schedule
or
a
variation
thereof,
coming
up
of
motion
all
right,
alderman,
Wilson,
I
think.
J
We
should
make
the
change
to
take
that
other
meeting
off
the
ordinary
calendar
and
then
go
back
to
a
more
of
an
as-needed
I
think
that's
fair
to
everybody.
As
far
as
you
know,
planning
your
life
planning,
your
calendar
planning
your
schedule
and
you
know
kind
of
trying
to
hold
those.
You
know.
12
meetings,
open
or
12
or
more
meetings
open
is
not
necessary,
given
the
record
from
last
year
on
which
ones
we
kept
in
which
one
didn't.
K
K
A
N
N
So
my
my
thought
is
that
in
in
trying
to
conserve
our
resources
and
be
mindful
of
our
budget
and
staff
cuts
and
staff
time
that
we
can
go
back
to
a
schedule,
that's
more
in
keeping
with
what
we
had
before,
which
is
the
the
two
meetings
a
month
and
then,
if
a
meeting
is
needed
we
can
we
can
fit
it
in
rather
than
having
the
standing
meetings
as
as
planned,
I
I.
Think
more
and
more,
we
need
to
look
at
the
amount
of
work
that
we're
asking
our
staff
to
do.
K
N
I
look
at
them
and
a
lot
of
them
seem
really
tired
to
me
and
I
know
that
they're
working
really
hard
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
But
a
change
like
this
I
think
is
going
to
be
really
helpful
in
hell
in
helping
them
plan
their
time
as
well,
and
to
get
us
all
the
information
and
services
that
we
require
as
a
council.
But.
K
N
N
A
So
I'm
gonna
interject
real
quick
for
the
public,
who
is
here
and
people
are
sitting
at
home,
who
might
not
even
know
we've
been
off
of
a
traditional
schedule
to
tell
you
what
schedule
we're
proposing,
because
you're
probably
only
hearing
that
we're
talking
about
cutting
meetings,
so
the
previous
and
the
past
practice
has
been
that
the
council
meet.
This
is
the
first
Monday
we
have
committee
meeting.
So
this
is
not
considered
a
council
evening
and
then
the
meetings
that
we
traditionally
have
had
are
the
sir
I'm
trying
to
read
it
off
here.
A
Side
make
sure
I,
don't
get
it
wrong.
Yes,
sorry,
second,
him,
second
and
fourth.
So
the
proposal
here
is
that
we
return
to
council
meeting
on
the
second
and
the
fourth
Monday
of
the
month
and
then
the
third
Monday,
if
needed,
would
be
for
special
order
business.
So
that's
where
we
could
have
affordable
housing
and
whatever
other
may
be,
Harley
Clark
or
whatever
other
longer
discussion
we
need
to
have,
and
what
autumn
araignee
is
proposing.
Is
that
we
don't
then
schedule
anything
for
the
fifth
Monday.
That's
just
that
we
don't
ever
have
fifth
Monday
meeting.
M
Support
autumn
iranian
saying-
and
I
hear
you
on
the
staff
peace
autumn
and
fisk
as
well-
I'm
sure
they're
exhausted,
but
just
for
quality
of
life
and
work
life
balance
in
terms
of
having
that
one
Monday
off.
There
are
ways
that
this
is
being
done
across
the
nation.
Just
came
from
philly
they
actually
take
June,
July
August
off
completely
I
mean
there's,
there's
other
ways
to
get
this
done.
So
I
would
support
that.
We
at
I
would
support
autumn
and
rainy
in
that
fifth
Monday
vacant.
M
A
J
I
totally
agree
with
the
sentiment
and
it's
in
line
with
what
I
just
suggested.
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
that
I
think
we
just
should
give
direction
to
avoid
the
fifth
Monday,
the
fifth
Monday.
There
could
be
a
situation
where,
for
some
reason,
that's
more
desirable
than
than
the
third
Monday
no.
J
You
look
at
a
calendar.
It
varies
year
to
year
it's
going
to
be
a
different
month.
Every
year,
one
year
it
could
fall
on
4th
of
July,
and
that
would
you
know
like
Meza
I'm
going
for
whatever
I.
Just
don't
think
we
should
make
a
rule
barring
it
forever.
I
think
we
should
avoid
it,
but
go
back
to
the
2nd
and
4th
and
pick
the
third
and,
if
it
necessary
the
fifth
on
an
as-needed
basis,
but
I
just
want
to
borrow
it
completely
as
a
rule,
because
it
could
be
a
situation
where
it's
more
desirable.
M
We
don't
have
any
rules
around
it
now
and
we
generally
meet.
Maybe
we
have
a
Monday
off
like
the
way
it's
been
trending.
Is
there
any
like
feedback
or
report
on
what
our
standard
has
been
in
terms
of
Mondays,
and
then
some
of
us
are
on
more
committees
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
if
we,
if
we,
if
we
protect
that
Monday,
then
we'll
know,
at
least
we
will
have
that
one
Monday
off
that
fifth
Monday.
K
A
A
A
M
A
M
Six
o'clock
is
I
believe
necessary,
I
mean
if
we
want
to
have
more
inclusion
on
our
elected
board.
We
need
folks
that
are
going
to
be
working
and
it's
difficult,
especially
if
you're
working
in
the
city
I
mean
there's
not
a
lot
of
jobs
and
Nevison.
Most
people
are
coming
from
outside
of
Evanston
from
work.
You
have
to
be
able
to
get
to
Evanston
on
the
other
side
of
traffic,
so
six
o'clock
is
I.
Think
important.
Okay,.
A
E
A
J
Don't
think
we
should
I
think
that
when
probably
most
people
sign
up
for
something
like
a
newsletter,
they
are
not
expecting
that
someone's
going
to
take
that
and
as
if
someone's
going
to
take
that
information,
also
our
privacy
poly
policy
specifically
says
that
no
attempts
are
made
to
identify
individual
users
or
their
usage
habits.
Tonight.
I
just
feel
like
giving
access
to
those
lists
would
would
be
a
slippery
slope
that
wouldn't
be
comfortable
with
that.
P
P
If
you
email
me
or
any
other
member
of
the
council,
we're
the
ones
that
are
going
to
respond
to
you,
if
your
newsletter,
if
someone
chooses
to
respond
to
that,
we
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
respond
to
you
and
very
often
I
mean
even
in
the
beginning.
I
think
I
was
probably
one
of
the
first
users
of
this
I
actively
recruit
people
to
my
newsletter.
P
So
I
don't
rely
on
staff
to
do
that
and
I
think
if
the
issue
that
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
is
someone
and
that
someone
should
be
myself
for
whoever
is
the
owner
of
that
war.
So
I
wouldn't
expect
that
someone
outside
of
the
second
war
to
residents
another
alderman
or
staff,
but
if
it's
something
that
I
monitor
I
should
have
access
to
it.
P
And
if
again,
the
concern
is
what,
if
one
would
want
to
use
that
for
campaign
purposes,
then
it's
real
simple,
just
put
a
clause
on
it
and
say
that
this
newsletter
is
owned
by
Alden
Braithwaite
or
the
second
Ward
Alderman,
and
you
just
put
a
little
box
that
says
it
could
be
used
for
a
campaign
and
then
that
should
make
it
pretty
straightforward
that
should
cover
all
the
uses
would
be
my
suggestion.
Ottoman.
A
K
Well
it
it
refers
to
the
city
newsletter.
I'm
have
no
interest
in
having
access
to
the
city
newsletter
that
reminds
people
about
street
cleaning
or
you
know,
Robert
crown
activities
or
Parks
and
Recreation,
but
the
and
Rainey
newsletter
for
Ward
meetings
etc.
Those
are
all
on
my
friends:
I
mean
they're.
All
people,
in
mostly
in
my
ward,
Rae
Freedman
I,
think
might
behind
it,
because
he
comes
every
one
of
my
meetings
and
a
few
other
people
from
out
of
the
ward
but
they're
all
people.
K
K
I,
don't
want
any
city
of
Evanston
newsletter
list,
but
my
own
newsletter
announcing
my
Ward
meetings
that
that
most
of
them
are
names
I
gave,
and
maybe
one
or
two
media
outlets
have
signed
up
for
that,
but
otherwise
they're
mostly
people
in
my
ward
or
people
that
I
know
or
people
who
have
asked
me
to
be
on
the
list.
All.
I
The
man
Rainey,
if
I
can
respond
so
I
know
that
the
memo
specifies
that
it's
for
the
city
newsletter
mailing
list
that
is
inclusive
of
the
Ward
mailing
list.
From
the
city's
perspective,
when
someone
signs
up
on
the
city's
website
to
receive
different
Ward
newsletters,
it's
still
considered
the
city's
newsletters,
even
though
the
aldermen
put
them
out
individually.
It
still
is
owned
by
the
city,
so
it
is
the
city
staffs
recommendation
that
those
mailing
lists
be
maintained
by
the
city
and
not
given
out
individually,
as
alderman
Wilson
noted
for
the
privacy
policy.
I
So
it
would
never
anyone
signs
up
to
receive
a
city
newsletter
or
an
individual
award
newsletter.
There
is
a
privacy
policy
that
they
agree
to
wear
in
which
the
city
states
it
will
not
be
sharing
those
individual
identities
so
per
the
privacy
policy.
That's
where
the
city
is
concerned
about
releasing
those
lists.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
I'm
gonna
jump
in
here
before
we
go
to
the
other
two
lights,
so
you
know
my
opinion
is
and
I'm
probably
like
autumn
arena,
I
think
when
I
came
into
office
they
were
like
300
people
on
the
Ninth
Ward
mailing
list
and
then
I
dumped
my
entire
campaign
list
into
that,
because
I
no
longer
was
going
to
be
sending
them
out
as
a
candidate
and
I
think
twice
since
being
in
office.
A
You
know:
I
have
asked
Patrick
for
the
list
again,
because
people
have
updated
it
and
and
I
also
am
like
autumn
earth
wind
that
I'm
always
telling
people
to
sign
up,
because
that
is
how
you
know:
I,
mostly
communicate
with
people.
I
do
understand
on
the
other
side
about
you
know,
because
this
happened
to
me
during
the
campaign
where
the
city
newsletter
list
was
used
to
not
speak
favorably
of
me.
A
A
What
I
have
started
doing
now
and
people
have
asked
if
I
say,
sign
up
for
the
city
newsletter
and
then,
if
they
want
to
hear
from
me
my
personal
thoughts
on
the
weather,
they
can
sign
up
on
my
own
newsletter,
because
there
are
two
different.
You
know
lists
I
think,
while
we're
out
of
office,
we
should
not
have
access
to
that
list.
You
know
I,
guess
I'm
I,
don't
have
any
concerns
being
that
I've.
A
You
know
accessed
it
myself
for
us
not
having
access
to
the
list
while
we're
here
we
understand
also
with
our
city
newsletter.
It
is
limited
to
once
a
month.
You
know.
Sometimes
it
can
be
very
limited
in
terms
of
what
goes
in
there.
Unless
you
catch
the
person
on
the
exact
day,
you
can
crap
what
you
need.
So
there
are
times
that
we
might
want
to
communicate
with
our
people
in
our
ward
and
we,
you
know,
we
don't
have
city
staff
to
do
that
as
autumn
and
break
way
suggested.
A
I
think
if
there
was
a
way
to
either
ask
people
when
they're
signing
up
for
this
list.
Do
they
want
to
also
have
their
information
share
with
the
aldermen?
Maybe
there's
a
way
we
can
have
them,
opt
in
or
out
of
that
and
then
that
those
people
who
have
opted
in
we
can
share
their
information
with
the
aldermen
as
they're
in
office.
I
would
also
be
open
to
their
being
some
kind
of
cutoff
for
that.
A
So
as
we
go
into
campaign
season,
maybe
the
list
is
off
limits
so
that
we
know
that
people
are
transitioned
and
those
people
into
you
know
vote
for
Sicily
campaign
list,
I
think
with
technology.
Those
things
should
be
doable
in
our
end,
but
sometimes
people
sign
up
for
our
Ward
newsletter
and
they
don't
know
that
it
is
more
of
an
automatic
kind
of
a
thing
and
unless
they
come
to
the
ward
meetings,
they're,
not
having
necessarily
a
dialogue
with
us.
A
So
I
do
think,
there's
some
room
for
improvement
with
those
lists,
and
you
know
then
I
guess.
My
personal
suggestion
is
that
if
you
have
people
who
do
contact
you
that
you,
you
know
as
we
all
do
just
suggest
that
they
also
join
if
we
have
any
kind
of
outside
mailers
that
they
also,
you
know,
are
privy
to
those
that
they're
interested
so
I'd
go
to
Ottoman,
Wilson
and
then
Ottoman
discs.
I
I
So
I
think
we
should
do
that
moving
forward.
We
can
talk
to
Luke
Stone
IT
to
see
if
he
can
amend
that
on
the
city's
website
and
then
aldermen
are
always
welcome
to
maintain
their
own
lists
and,
like
you
said
you
had
your
lists
with
campaigns.
So
you
know
you
can
keep
this
separate
list
and
compile
it
yourselves
so,
and
the.
A
Opt-In
route,
just
sort
of
clear,
should
be
the
you
know,
current
aldermen,
if
you're
signed
up
for
the
ninth
ward
newsletter
today,
you're
opting
in
to
have
it
share
with
me.
You
know
so
not
my
name.
You
know
the
current
sitting.
Alderman
I
do
feel
pretty
strongly,
though
about
when
it
comes
to
campaign
season
that
we
no
longer
share
that
coz,
then,
as
I
think
Ottomans
suffered
I
mentioned
before
we
are
then
candidates
we
are
still
sitting
in
the
seat,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
then
turning
those
lists
into
something
else.
N
Yeah
well,
I'm
really
glad
we're
having
this
conversation,
because
I
feel
I
feel
like
I've,
just
like
dropped
off
the
turnip
truck
or
something
but
the
turnip
truck.
You
know
that
so
I
try
to
remind
everybody
at
my
ward
meetings
if
they
to
sign
up
for
the
first
ward
email
list
on
the
city's
website,
I.
N
Even
people
who
supported
me
during
the
campaign.
I've
said
if
you
want
to
receive
that
information
that
comes
from
the
city
sign
up
on
the
city's
website,
so
I
I
have
a
very
distinct,
and
this
is
just
me
I'm
not
suggesting
anyone
else
do
anything
different,
but
I
have
a
very
clear
view
of
myself
as
a
candidate
and
myself
as
an
alderman
and
and
that's
what
I
feel
really
comfortable
with
so
I
I
want
to
be
really
careful
that
we
don't
blur
the
lines
between
the
two
I
look
at
and
I.
N
N
So
I
again
I
the
whoever
has
signed
up
I,
don't
know
who
you
are
I'm
I.
Welcome
you
on
the
on
the
first
word
email
list
and
when
I'm
no
longer
in
office.
I
hope
that
email
lists
will
continue,
because
my
view
of
looking
on
that
is
that
people
have
signed
up
for
that
because
they
want
to
know
what's
going
on
in
the
first
Ward
and
they
don't
necessarily
want
to
know
what's
going
on
with
me.
N
O
What
we
will
do
is
we
will
work
with
our
communications
department,
our
division
and
IT,
and
come
up
with
a
solution.
I
think
that
would
be
where
you're
not
recreating
a
will
so
I
mean
maybe
sitting
out
a
separate
communication
piece
to
that
list,
saying
if
you're
interested
to
participate
in
a
separate
email
communication
piece
from
the
Alderman
that
they
can
just
sign
up.
Because
again,
we
do
not
have
any
additional
contact
information
of
who
these
individuals
are.
O
So
that
will
allow
them
to
be
able
to
sign
up
for
a
separate
list,
but
also
allow
you
to
be
able
to
collect
that
that
won't
be
attached
to
the
city's
email
system.
So
I
think
we
can
figure
out
a
way
that
I
can
make
every
best
compromise
in
the
situation
to
make
sure
that
our
privacy
rules
are
not
being
violated,
but
also
that
you're
able
to
access
the
information
that
you're
requesting
right.
J
And
I
appreciate
your
your
desire
to
try
to
find
a
compromise
feel
strongly
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
I
think
there's
literally
no
way
that
we
can
separate
this.
If
we're
going
to
tell
people
and
and
and
giving
a
disclaimer
isn't
good
enough
people
sign
up
for
the
Fourth
Ward
newsletter,
they
don't
sign
up
for
the
Don
Wilson
newsletter.
I
mean
it
might
be
perceived
that
way,
or
somebody
might
be
thinking
that
in
their
minds.
But
there's
no
way
for
me
to
know
that
and
a
disclaimer
doesn't
fix
that.
J
So
just
the
idea
that
the
respective
aldermen
can
go
ahead
and
get
those
lists,
I
think
that's
going
to
have
a
significant
chilling
effect
on
anybody
being
willing
to
sign
up.
For
that.
You
know
the
opt-out
provisions.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
law
on
this.
As
far
as
what
can
be
done.
So
you
know
our
IT
department.
Has
you
know
their
disclaimers
on
the
you
sign
up?
You
have
to
be
able
to
opt-out
things
like
that.
J
We
can't
take
responsibility
as
a
city
for
what
the
individual
aldermen
do
or
might
do
with
the
data
and
with
the
lists
so
I
think
to
let
it
out
of
the
system
is
a
is
a
really
big
mistake
and
I
feel
strong
and
I.
If
we
need
to
I
would
imagine
that
our
IT
department
could
come
in
and-
and
you
know,
educate
us
more
fully
on
the
dangers
of
that
and
and
the
restrictions
that
we
that
we
are
operating
under.
A
Ottoman
sense
suffer
done
so
I
don't
want.
H
To
start
a
new
topic,
but
maybe
we
could
change
the
template
to
you
here
in
our
head,
chats
and
just
have
to
pee.
Like
is
a
neutral
here's
some
words
about
some
stuff.
You
might
care
about
street
cleaners
coming
up
all
that
stuff,
but
the
data,
collection
and
dissemination
is
a
real
problem.
Andy
yeah
anybody
who
clicks
on
Peter
to
your
point
like
if
they're
clicking
on
yours
and
they're,
like
hey
I'm
cool
if
Peter
Braithwaite,
have
my
information.
H
H
J
J
H
A
So
the
composition
has
changed
tones
a
little
bit
here.
So
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
have
the
director,
you
need
yeah,
which
seems
like
we're
right
down
the
middle
here,
and
this
is
not
something
that's
up
for
vote.
It's
just
for
a
discussion,
so
we
have
several
who
feel
strongly
against
I
would
imagine
a
couple
who
sounds
like
a
couple
who
think
we
should
have
access
and
the
others
that
are
quiet.
I.
Imagine
don't
have
strong
feelings
either
way.
Alright,
so
he
okay
very
quickly
autumn
it
this
week,
yeah.
A
So
why
don't
we
leave
this
on
the
Rules
Committee
agenda?
We
will
come
back
with
some
more
legal
and
IT
information,
alright.
Moving
on
our
seven
discussion
regarding
the
mayoral
election
process
that
seeking
direction
regarding
the
mayoral
election
tour
process-
and
there
was
an
extensive
memo
in
the
packet
on
Andrew
Wilson
move.
A
J
What
I
think
we
should
do
is
put
on
the
next
meeting
back
and
wait
the
results,
the
of
the
nonpartisan
referendum,
because
I'm,
assuming
that
okay
I,
think
we're
all
assuming
that'll
pass,
but
if
it
doesn't
pass
that
changes
things
so
I,
don't
wanna
get
ahead
of
the
curve.
I
suggest
we
hold
that
to
the
next.
A
G
G
The
review
/
evaluation
committee
should
include
members
of
the
public
and
the
proposal
can
include
uses
for
the
main
house
coach
house
or
both
so
that
I
just
want
everybody
to
be
aware.
Cuz
the
resident
emailed
me
and
said
hey.
This
is
what
you
guys
had
previously
talked
about,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
comfortable.
If
there's
a
change
from
that
direction,
that
we
gave
back
in
February
well,.
A
I
think
you
know
I
wasn't.
My
only
suggestion
for
this
committee
was
that
we
could
try
to
have
one
person
from
each
ward
that
was
about
all
I
was
bringing
to
the
table
for
that
all
so
that
if
we
had
a
committee
that
they
understood
when
their
directions
were
given
that
they
were
making
a
suggestion
and
a
recommendation,
but
it
was
not
necessarily
meaning
that
that
was
exactly.
A
We
were
going
to
do
as
a
council,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
always
clear
for
our
citizen
committee,
I
guess,
given
this
information
I
think
if
we
said
that
we
were
going
to
do
that,
we
should
do
it.
I
understand
honorable
Wilson's
point
regarding
kind
of
the
fatigue
and
people
spending
a
lot
of
time
when,
ultimately,
it
is
going
to
be
the
suggestion
of
the
direction
and
the
choice
of
the
council
in
terms
of
what
we
do
with
the
mansion.
A
N
My
understanding
is
that
staff
is
looking
at
this
now
to
see
who
complies
and
that
it's
going
to
be
coming
to
the
council
and
that
if
we
want
to
expand
the
discussion
at
that
time,
we
can
do
it,
but
I
think
starting
to
add
a
larger
committee
at
this
point.
To
do
to
do
the
evaluation
that's
in
the
RFP
is
is
is
not
a
great
idea.
A
All
right,
no
other
lights
for
discussion,
so
it
sounds
like
we're.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
mayor.
The
citizens
have
heard
our
thoughts
on
that.
So
any
items
for
communication
all
right,
so
I
move
that
we
adjourn
the
Rules
Committee
meeting
it
is
7:10.
Come
have
a
second
okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
a
journey.