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A
Good
evening
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
April
26th
meeting
of
the
city,
Administration
committee
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
this
body
to
order
my
colleague
from
the
first
wardrobe
orthogonals
here,
a
colleague
from
the
good
board
president
sharp
is
here,
and
my
colleague
from
the
fourth
ward,
coordinate
epidemius
here
and
Jeffrey
Martin
in
the
third
board
will
be
joining
us
shortly:
emergency
evacuation
method,
since
there's
no
one
in
the
room,
agenda,
review
and
additions
regulations
for
the
agenda.
A
We
are
none
in
that
case,
I'll
turn
to
the
review
and
approval
of
the
March
15
2023
committee
meeting
minutes
can
I
get
a
mover
on
that.
Please
Jorge!
Second
Chris!
Thank
you.
Any
discussion
on
these
items.
B
A
You
in
this
got
a
few
more
minutes,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
four
zero.
All
right,
I
understand.
We
have
one
member
of
the
public
signed
up
dispute
this
evening.
Are
they
in
the
waiting
room.
C
Oh,
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
speak
in
order
to
five
on
your
agenda.
The
increase,
the
salary
for
the
app
search,
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
good
idea
and
I
would
ask
the
committee
there
to
vote
against
that,
at
least
until
City
Hall
can
produce
an
adequate
explanation
as
to
the
last
search.
Why
Lieutenant.
D
C
Over
and
there
are
three
candidates
who
are
willing
to
work
for
the
current
salary,
I
believe
it's
about
a
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
dollars
and.
C
Pardon
me
well
a
chance
to
reason
that
someone
might
be
willing
to
work
for
the
112
000
without
having
to
increase
the
wage,
and
we
know
without
a
sufficient
explanation
as
to
the
failure
of
the
last
search.
It
doesn't
necessarily.
B
C
Spending
more
money
is
the
solution
to
finding
a
chief,
which
is
you
know,
more
urgent
than
ever
I
do
appreciate
the
need
for
the
search
given
Jolie's
departure
and
that
whole
situation
so
I
just
ask
you
folks
to
consider
voting.
No
and
I
guess
I'll
yield
the
remainder
of
my
time.
I'm!
Sorry!
If
I
broke
up
there
on
you,
so
have
a
nice
night.
B
E
We
lost
a
truly
Great
American
yesterday,
we'll
be
passing
a
Harry
Belafonte.
E
One
of
my
earliest
memories
of
my
mother
is
her
collection
of
Harry
Belafonte
records.
He
was
her
favorite
singer
and
which
she
thought
was
very
handsome,
but
also
it
was
a
great
leader
and
Federal
for
human
rights
and
for
men
for
decades.
So
thank
you.
Mr
Belafonte
for
alive.
E
A
Who
responds,
but
I
do
just
follow
point
out
at
the
aggregious
dominance
was
very
intentional
too.
A
What
has
been
happening
across
the
country
regarding
not
just
the
rhetoric,
but
the
actions
taken
by
the
surgeons
and
folks
in
the
Republican
Party
specifically,
and
see
how
house
legislatures
earlier
in
the
month
they
tried
to
expel
to
the
Democratic
lawmakers
three
I
believe
three
Democratic
lawmakers.
A
Who
are
speaking
out
against
these
trans
bands,
these
General
care
bands
per
happening
across
the
country
and
right
now
in
Montana,
I,
believe
the
only
trans
lawmaker
with
the
Democrat
in
that
state
house
has
been
centered
for
speaking
out
against
the
Republican
party's
attempts
to
censure
or
assume
to
ban
gender
affirmative
care
and
right
now,
trans
people
from
from
the
state's
driver
and
I
think
that's
despicable
and
I
think
that
elected
officials
should
call
it
out
what
it
is
we
presented
Democratic
these
folks
are
trying
to
they're
trying
to
wage
and
genocide
against
an
entire
community
of
people
and
the
right
amount
of
existence
and
everybody
who
has
platform
should
use
that
to
sneak
out,
and
so
my
solidarities
with
that
lawmaker
transposed
across
the
country
who
are
reading
the
news
and
they're
waiting
on
the
trade
every
day.
A
A
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
lose
my
time
to
bring
attention
to
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
further
response
from
Hilliards,
okay
I've
seen,
none
will
move
to
item
three
consent
agenda
and
someone
like
the
word
consent
agenda
Gourmet,
for
example,
George
loan
paper
and
consent
agenda,
yeah
very
generously.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Moving
right
along
to
administration
of
human
resources
and
policy,
we
have
4.1
the
updated
license
agreement
pertaining
to
public
parking
lot.
Capitalism.
Sorry.
A
Located
at
720
West,
Florissant
Street
Winx
completely,
but
we
usually
been
parties.
Two
licenses
are
being
stated:
February,
26,
2016
and
May
13
2019,
whereby
went
to
their
revocable
license.
Authorization
was
the
number
of
parking
spaces
and
the
public
parking
lot
to
look
even
at
the
corner
of
West
Court
Street
and
North
11th
Street,
Dash,
3-20
public
parking
lot
and
whereas
sweetest
desires
do
increase
the
negative
invasive
license
in
the
public
parking
lot
in
2019
to
29
station,
and
whereas
the
director
of
parking
and
transportation
has
determined.
A
The
public
parking
lot
has
underutilized
that
licensing
additional
eight
spaces,
an
organizations
and
whereas
the
school
continued
well
for
the
parking
contenders.
The
public
is
standard
and
Ada
accessible
stages
in
public
parking
lot
and
whereas
links
is
agreed
to
pay
a
monthly
to
be
a
35
per
space
per
month
for
each
other.
History
licensed.
A
The
second
request,
thank
you,
Eric
is
joining
us
via
Zoo
Eric.
Anything
you'd
like
to
say
as
Preparatory
comment
before
we
discuss.
D
E
D
Yeah
I
believe
so
and
I
believe
we
have.
The
the
superintendent
can
change
the
rate
at
any
time
as
well.
That
can
be
done
administratively.
It
doesn't
need
to
come
back
here.
A
And
I'll
just
roll
colleagues
attentions
to
section
seven
of
those
contract
in
your
packet,
which
does
in
fact
State
the
provisions
by
the
issue.
Early
termination
may
occur
and
it
looks
like
it's
got.
A
three-month
notice
period.
B
A
I
met
Harry
Unison.
Thank
you.
4.2
amendments
personnel,
roster
for
DPW.
Thank
you,
Aaron
technology,
for
not
saying.
Thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this.
4.2
amendment
to
personnel,
roster
BBW.
A
Whereas
the
streets
facilities,
division,
that
tbw
has
a
vacant
working
supervisor
position
and
whereas
the
position
has
continually
been
assigned
work
within
the
highway
section
of
maintaining
stormwater
infrastructure
and
we're
out
of
the
DBW
has
added
a
stormwater
engineer
position
to
the
roster
to
assist
with
maintaining
compliance
with
safe
and
federal
resolutions,
and
whereas
this
position
will
align
with
the
organization
structure
of
streets
and
facilities
and
therefore
the
result
of
personal
roster,
because
division
of
Department
of
Public
Works,
he
amended
as
follows.
Had.
B
A
Working
supervisor
Sean
Walker
at
least
one
working
supervisor
and
be
a
further
resolve
the
position
of
working
supervisors
or
waters
on
the
assigned
to
the
CSE
and
DPW
unit
Compensation
Plan
at
salary
grade
eight.
We
have
further
resolved
that,
for
the
sole
purpose
of
the
trumpeting
days
were
reportable
to
New
York
state
and
local
employees
risk
Highland
system.
Standard
working
position
should
be
established
in
eight
hours
per
day.
40
hours
per
week
can
be
a
further
result.
Funding
this
position
should
be
derived
and
improved
2023
budget
I
assembly.
Thank
you,
Jorge.
F
A
Right
we're
seeing
no
questions
about
all
those
in
favor
of
4.2
has
moved
and
then
Kerry
Thomas.
Thank
you.
Colleagues.
Looking
for
4.3
resolution
to
adopt
the
workforce,
diversity,
advisory
committee,
commitment
to
equity
and
justice
statement
for
someone,
please,
voter
George.
E
I
mean
we
don't
need
that
is
to
improve
existing
City
policies
or
to
propose
new
policies
which
will
help
improve
Workforce
diversity
as
an
integral
part
of
the
operations
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
government,
whereas
the
County
Council
adopted
the
current
diversity
statement
on
December,
2nd
1998
and
whereas
the
wbac
has
determined
that
the
city's
Workforce
will
be
very
soon
by
an
updated
statement.
A
Thank
you,
like
Chris
discussion
of
this
item,.
B
A
H
Well,
the
workforce
diversity
advisory
committee
fell
strongly
that
the
previous
version
was
fairly
passive
and
that
they
thought
a
more
action-oriented
version
was
warranted
and
that
was
written
in
1998.
Literally
times
have
changed.
I
was
10.
I'm,
just
yeah,
you
know,
I
was
younger
too
not
10,
but
yeah.
A
All
right,
we'll
move
back
to
another,
almost
be
very,
very
important
reasons.
So
I
I
do
have
some
reservations
about
the
language
in
this,
and
it's
interesting
that
Shelley
uses
the
word
passive
and.
A
In
this
version
is
that
it
feels
a
bit
prescriptive
for
a
culture
that
should
have
opportunity
to
rise
of
itself,
divert
you
of
the
individuals
that
we
employ
here
and
the
diversity
that
they
bring
to
the
table
so
words
that
stand
out
to
me
as
just
problematic.
The
word
courageous,
for
example,
I.
Don't
think
you
can
use
that
term
without
defining
what
is
courageous
Behavior,
you
need
a
definition
of
Bravery.
A
A
I
think
that
there
are
many
people
who
who
shy
away
from
these
sensitive
conversations-
and
you
know
I
know
that
I
myself
hesitate
to
raise
a
question
like
this
in
this
atmosphere,
and
at
this
time
is
that
that
brings
to
to
mind
these
questions.
Are
bravery
versus
powerless
right
and
so
I.
Just
think
that
it
might
be
too
much
pressure
on
many
employees
to
to
have
basically
an
activist.
A
Mentality
here
in
this
definition,
I
also
find
the
word
the
use
of
the.
A
Been
changing
of
folks,
that's
very
colloquial
language
rather
vague.
You
know,
I
think
that
this
one's
meditating.
E
I
agree:
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
maybe
about
why
they
think
these
changes
are
needed
and
I
like
I,
like
the
previous
1998
version,
better.
A
H
Job
losing
you
know
the
only
thing
I
will
say
in
terms
of
the
language,
the
particular
word
folks.
There
was
significant
conversation
around
using
that
terminology
and,
and
they
landed
and
I-
think
it's
to
me,
I
can't
reiterate
or
repeat
the
discussion,
but
it
was
quite
a
limited
discussion
about
this
and
the
the
group
of
folks
that
were
involved
in
this
was
satisfied
with
this
language.
H
There's
historical
meaning,
I
know
it's
when
comp,
maybe
it's
uncomfortable
for
certain
people,
maybe
not,
but
this
whole
topic
is
uncomfortable,
so
I
would
just
say
that
I
I,
you
know
I
would
I
would
just
caution
just
editing,
because
this
took
place
over
several
several
meetings
back
and
forth
in
discussion,
and
this
committee
has
several
experts
in
this
field.
Considering
this
committee
no.
A
You
know
I'll
just
say
that
okay,
I,
think
the
changes
are
good,
as
somebody
who
is
trying
to
do
in
my
everyday
life
and
imagine
this
wordage
of
folks
trying
to
avoid
using
you
know
Japan
or
exclusive
terms
or
whatnot
anymore.
A
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
appreciated
the
the
active
nature
of
this
statement
and
I.
Think
it's
more,
it's
less
prescriptive
than
the
previous
one.
That's
something
I
really
appreciated
about
it.
I
appreciate
about
it.
I
I
When
I
look
at
the
diversity
statement
that
the
previous
one
it's
it's,
you
know
the
the
details
I'm
looking
at
are
actively
seeking
volunteers
and
employees
develop
and
maintain
a
work
environment.
It's
like
the
big
picture,
but
not
what
actually
needs
to
happen
in
the
actions,
so
I
I
contrast
actively
seeking
employees
and
volunteers
with
what
would
be
a
good
like
using
an
equity
lens
to
evaluate
all
decision-making
processes,
so
I
see
those
as
two
different
ways
of
looking
at
it.
I
One
is
kind
of
like
you
make
a
statement
and
the
one
that
we're
looking
at
today
is
more
about.
How
do
we
bring
that
statement
to
fruition?
How
do
we
take
action?
And
you
know
it's
about
using
Equity
lenses,
educating
ourselves
on
the
historic
systems.
Engaging
in
conversations,
courageous
challenging,
you
know,
would
be
another
word
that
could
be
very
courageous,
acknowledging
power
differentials.
I
It
just
seems
to
me
it's
more
about
how
we
take
action
and
what
we're
what
we
intend
to
do
in
a
group,
as
opposed
to
we're
going
to
look
for
the
most
diverse
group
of
people
to
hire
it's
nitty-gritty.
For
me
and
I.
Don't
know
if
I
answered
your
question,
but
that's.
B
H
I
E
Not
opposed
to
educating
ourselves
of
the
historic
systems,
but
when
it
comes
to
hiring
people
in
d2w,
for
example,
I
like
actively
seeking
information,
diverse
background.
A
To
Chris's
point
that
I
find
descriptive
that
we're
going
to
really
have
hardened
processes
to
basically
formalize
the
way
in
which
people
interact
in
an
organization
and
I
think
that
there's
just
missed
opportunities
there
and
so
I
prefer
the
previous
language,
because
it's
setting
up
a
it's
casting
a
wide
net
saying
we
want
to
bring
the
diversity
in
here
and
then
we
want
to
let
it
flourish.
This
is
attractive
to
me
and
so
yeah.
You
know,
I
I
agree
with
George
I
think
we.
A
H
H
H
So
that
to
me
is
like
a
clear
statement.
This
is
what
this
is.
How
we're
going
to
do
this
we're
going
to
accomplish
this
by
using
an
equity
lens
speaks
for
itself.
You
know,
and-
and
the
other
thing
I
would
say
about
in
1990
the
the
what
was
written
in
1998.
H
What
it
says
and
what
we
have
now
are
still
far
far
apart
so
apparently
it's
not.
It
wasn't
enough
to
get
us
where
we
said
we
want
to
go
so
you
know
I,
just
really.
I
just
see
this.
It's
like
to
me.
This
is
clear
what
you
know
when
we
talk
about
engaging
in
courageous
conversations,
means
that
we
have
to
create
an
environment
where
people
are
safe
to
have
these
conversations,
so
I
am.
A
I
This
is,
this
came
out
of
a
conversation.
I
had
just
with
someone
about
this,
but
I.
Think
I
really
like
the
idea
or
the
the
the
diversity
is
not
in
this
new
statement
and
in
and
what
is
in.
It
is
a
sense
of
inclusivity
and
belonging
and
I
really
appreciate
that
about
this
statement.
A
A
Is
debate,
and
so
now
we
have
to
learn
all
the
items?
Okay,
so
that
Harry
is
5-0,
and
now
we
are
going
to
be
going
on
5.3.
The
item
has
moved
all
those
in
favor
of
523
has
moved
Elizabeth
and
that
carries
three
two.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Unless
colleagues
have
a
particular
separate
question,
which
nothing
was
shared
with
me
in
advance,
so
I
suspect
not
for
Shelly.
On
the
HR
report,
my
thought
was
to
Waverly
report
this
month,
as
my
questions
were
decided
to
the
status
of
the
Honor
by
Chief
search,
which
is,
of
course
the
subject
of
our
next
voting
item.
So
unless
anyone
has
a
separate
question,
originally
at
this
time,
I
I
proposing
over
5.1,
okay
5.1
approval
of
police
chief
salary
adjustment
may
I
have
a
moment.
Please.
E
Please
choose
salary
adjustment
5.1,
whereas
it
has
become
increasingly
clear
that
we
are
in
a
very
competitive
market
for
recruiting
high
quality
individuals
and
whereas
the
city
has
committed
itself
to
a
major
transformational
journey
in
reimagining
public
safety,
which
will
improve
the
safety
and
well-being
of
all
individuals
in
our
community
and
whereas
based
on
input
from
common
Council
and
members
of
the
community.
Through
survey,
surveys
and
focus
groups.
E
The
city
will
seek
an
individual
who
has
a
proven
track
record
in
crime
reduction
strategies
being
community-minded,
also
able
to
engage
all
stakeholders,
reform,
oriented
and
committed
to
social
justice,
and
whereas
the
president
of
the
executive,
Search,
firm
public
sector
search
and
Consulting
has
advised
that,
due
to
the
challenges
facing
law
enforcement
everywhere,
but
particularly
in
our
local
climate,
a
salary
increase
is
necessary
to
attract
the
desired
candidate
and
whereas
the
police
chief
position
is
currently
at
a
salary
grade.
12
with
a
salary
range
of
110
460
dollars
to
132
552.
E
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
common
Council
hereby
acknowledges
the
unique
and
extenuating
circumstances
that
exist
at
this
time,
given
the
city's
difficulty
with
recruiting
law
enforcement
at
all
levels
in
its
desire
to
move
forward
with
implement
the
recommendations
of
reimagining
Public
Safety,
which
is
synonymous
with
reducing
crime
and
improving
safety
for
all
and
yet
further
resolved,
their
common
Council
authorizes
the
starting
salary
of
altitude,
150
000
and
a
fifty
thousand
dollars
sign
on
bonus
can
be
paid
evenly
over
two
years
or
this
is
the
police
chief
search,
my
soul
move.
Thank
you
jewel.
H
H
H
No
okay,
so
anyway,
this
is
based
on
the
advice,
the
advice
of
the
consultant
and
and
based
upon
his
current
contacts
and
Communications
with
individuals.
Colleagues,.
A
E
I
have
two
questions.
One.
E
G
E
E
So
if,
if
I
was
going
to
agree
to
a
signing,
bonus
and
I
understand
baiting
the
hook,
but
it
would
have
to
be
for
more
than
two
years.
It
would
have
to
be
at
least
four
years.
H
Can
answer
it?
Your
question
was:
how
does
this
affect
other
other
department
has?
So
you
know
that
we
have
our
conversation
plan
and
we
have
our
range.
This
would
be
outside
of
the
Compensation
Plan.
It's
not.
It
wouldn't
be
the
first
time
we've
done
that,
so
so
it
would
be
outside
of
the
conversation
tonight.
What
I
will
say.
H
Is
that
we
have
now
embarked
upon
us,
particularly
in
the
police
department,
where
we
are
doing
things
that
we
have
not
done
before,
but
we
know
because
of
the
situation,
we
cannot
attract
people
without
we
have.
We
have
transfers
coming
over
at
much
at
higher
steps
than
we
normally
do.
We
have
signal
bonuses
for
those
individuals
coming
in,
so
we
are
really
sort
of
where.
C
H
A
And
it's
all:
is
there
any
other
colleagues.
B
F
Don't
know
and
what
I
can
also
tell
you
is-
we
may
have
to
have
this
exact
same
conversation
when
we
have
to
hire
a
controller
and
we
have
to
hire
an
HR
Director
right.
So
this
may
not
be
exclusive
to
the
police
chief.
It
may
be
simply
the
current
nature
of
hiring
people
in
top
level
leadership
roles
when
these
are
the
roles
that
are
not
prescribed
by
bargaining,
that
get
x
amount
of
money
added
to
them
year
year
by
year.
F
F
Was
a
compression
study
done?
There
were
some
adjustments
made
to
this
this
particular
stretch
of
City
staff
and
that
may
have
to
happen
again
given
who
we
are
about
to
lose
so
I.
Don't
I
know
that
this
feels
like
it's
tied,
particularly
to
the
extremeness
of
what's
going
on
with
ipd
right
now,
but
it
may
simply
be
the
case
for
upcoming
leadership
positions,
asthma.
So
this
gives
us
flexibility
to
do
different
kind
of
negotiating,
rather
than
being
restricted
to
what
the
current
band
is.
E
H
So,
okay,
I'm
dividing,
okay,
sorry
as
well;
okay,
so
that
ends
up
yeah.
So
it's
part
of
what
is
sort
of
the
mentally
the
salary
for
that
time
period.
But
I
think
sport
is
too
long
a
stretch.
H
For
it
to
be
because
four
brings,
if,
if
you
were
to
go
to
the
max
I
mean
four,
but
four
does
this
added,
it
adds
twelve
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
a
person's
salary.
A
Yeah
I
recognize
myself
really
quick,
really
how
often,
as
a
as
a
proponent
of
salary
ranges.
How
often
do
we
bring
someone
in.
B
H
I
I
You
know
a
long
employee
in
another
department
with
a
promotion
right
with
and
that
person
doesn't
have
a
deputy.
You
know
doesn't
so
it's
24
7
for
that
person,
and
so
I
am
thinking.
I
I
am
just
thinking
about.
Even
if
this
is
an
necessity.
Problems
with
us-
and
you
know,
I'm
thinking
of
the
issue
of
equity.
You
know
there
so.
F
Good
news
is
there,
isn't
there
will
be
a
deputy
fireship
and
that
will
be
posted,
so
that's
exciting
and
so
acknowledging
what
you're
saying
that
that's
hard
to
do
to
do
that.
So
that'll
be
something
that's
going
on
board,
but
we
agree
with
what
you
just
said:
aren't
sure
how
to
yeah
universally
make
it
happen.
A
I'll
just
throw
in
one
morning
really:
can
you
share
with
us
what
your
thoughts
are
in
your
personal
opinion
on
the
relative
balance
between
the
proposed
salary
and
the
proposed
signing
bonus,
whether
changes
to
one
or
the
other
would
have
a
significant
impact
in
the
overall
attraction
and
whether
that
might
impact
colleagues
willingness
to.
H
H
F
Yeah
one
of
the
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
we
looked
at
it.
This
way
is
that
we
were
not
looking
at
like
making
the
base
so
much
higher
and
sort
of
setting
the
precedent
for
the
base
and
then
really
skewing
what
the
other
people
are
in
the
city
that
are
in
that
are
in
that
role.
So,
by
giving
flexibility,
what
the
sign
of
one
says
well,
then
we're
not
establishing
the
faith,
salary
so
high
that
then
we
never
maybe
can't
put
it
back
to
where
we
think
it
should
stabilize.
E
H
So,
are
you
saying
that
if,
if
are
you
saying
that
the
the
sign
on
bonus
does
it
affect
the
retirement?
Is
that
what
you're
right.
B
G
G
It
was
campus.
It
was
considered
compensation
by
a
retirement
system
that
I
would
have
been
for
that
and
then
you
have
you
know.
Depending
on
the
years
you
have,
you
can
only
increase
a
certain
percentage
that
will
be
able
to
be
incorporated
into
the
calculation
of
retirement
overall.
So
there's
some
complications,
but
but.
H
E
G
B
E
Much
more
than
mine,
but
I.
If,
if
you
think
three
years
is
as
far
as
we
can
go,
I'd
say
three
years:
I
don't
want
somebody
to
come
here
for
two
years
say.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
going
to
the
Bahamas
Mountain.
H
E
A
A
I
guess
I
would
say
that
we
go
down
that
road.
I
think
you
want
to
have
a
singer
at
the
end
of
it,
so
there
should
be
some
lump
sum.
That
is
greater.
Should
they
stay
the
full
three
years
and
you
may
have
to
add
more,
you
know
we're
being
advised
by
recruiters
who,
to
be
perfectly
honest,
I
have
no
questions
about
questions
about
why
a
police
chief
exam
that
had
applicants
was
canceled.
A
That's
not
been
answered,
and
perhaps
jelly
can
speak
to
that
we
need
to
do
whatever
is
the
most
competitive
thing
in
the
situation.
This
is
the
price
of
our
volley,
there's
no
other
way
to
say
it
and
I
think
we
see
that
here
tonight.
A
A
But
we
need
to
get
this
before
the
council
and
we
need
to
have
them
here.
Answer
questions.
H
H
A
A
H
A
Is
there
further
discussion?
I'll
just
note,
you
know
I
wanted
to
bring
us
back
to
something
that
just
said
near
the
beginning
of
the
discussion
by
Jordan
Shelley
and
echoed
by
others
later
you
know
the
department
does
a
permanent
leadership
and
he
just
spent
an
inordinate
amount
of
time.
A
A
What's
happened
has
happened
and
there's
a
time
for
evaluating
and
reflecting
on
that,
but
but
I
think
right
now.
The
most
important
thing
is
to
you
know,
follow
through
on
our
commitment
to
the
reform
process
that
we've
put
in
place
and
so
how
to
be
voting
in
favor
of
this.
Despite
you
know,
despite
physical
location,
I'll
go
ahead
and
tell
this
to
a
vote.
All
those
in
favor
are
we
voting
for
the
amendment
first?
A
A
A
Okay,
yeah
I'll
make
a
motion
to
to
how
much
total
is
the
50
000?
Let's
do.
A
so
to
clarify
just
getting
information.
You
are
retaining
the
same
amount
of
money,
but
reallocating.
How
it
is
I
mean
I
would
I
would
like
to
open
it
up
to
feeling
more
I
I
hear
that,
but
the
motion
you're
offering
is
I,
think
that
makes
it
more
competitive.
But
you
know
there
should
be
a
reason,
a
worthwhile
some
to
stick
around
for
the
third
year.
A
E
A
All
right,
seeing
no
second,
that
motion
fails.
We
will
now
consider
a
vote
on
5.1
as
amended
same
amount
of
money
over
three
years:
salary
engine,
all
those
in
favor
of
5.1
as
amended.
A
A
F
F
F
F
So
what
I
want
to
hear
from
all
of
you
is
a
few
things:
I'll
kind
of
go
down
one
by
one,
give
you
a
sense
of
what
we
were
hoping
to
send
the
meeting
with,
and
then
I
also
want
to
hear
from
everybody
if
there's
pre-work
or
information
or
stuff
that
you
want
ahead
of
time.
F
That
might
help
you
have
a
more
productive
meeting
on
me
through
the
first
and,
let
me
know,
and
I
can
put
you
know,
sort
of
a
packet
or
a
primer
or
memo
or
whatever,
together
for
everybody,
so
the
first
one
that
we
talked
about
role,
clarification
for
that.
What
I
hope
we
get
is
sort
of
a
comprehensive
understanding
of
the
role
of
the
mayor,
the
role
of
council
members
and
the
role
of
the
city
manager.
So
let
me
know
what
your
thoughts
are
things
you
might
need.
F
I
G
A
F
Manager,
I
think
it's
in
a
previous
system,
the
same
dragging
out
the
same
information.
F
A
F
So
I
think
well
just
so.
You
all
understand
we're
hoping
that
the
meeting
will
be
really
more
of
like
a
working
session,
where
we'll
have
like
some
robust
discussions
about
how
really
we
see
the
mayor's
role
being
different
Newcastle
roles
in
different
Etc,
so
I
guess
I'm,
not
sure
how
to
help
you
have
that
conversation.
Some
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
you
having
to
all
discuss
what
this
looks
like
for
you
as
a
legislative
body.
F
How
is
changing
so
if
you
want
me
to
give
me
like
prompt
or
questions
or
case
studies,
or
how
do
you
want?
How
do
you
want
to
go
about
this
story?.
E
One
thing
I'd
like
to
know
is
and
I
know
it's
I've,
probably
read
it
somewhere
and
I
apologize
so
I,
don't
remember
it
the
role
of
the
City
attorney
and
and
who
hires
the
City
attorney.
A
Yeah
I
think
I
mentioned
it
at
our
last
Association
in
the
1900s,
but
I
think
he
says
would
be
really
would
be
really
interesting
and
helping
the
to
look
at
for
that
meeting
just
to
see
a
frame
of
reference,
particularly
if
there
are
cases
for
cities
of
our
site
or
like
in
our
region.
A
That
would
be
helpful,
but
whatever
you
can
get
does
that
regard
would
be
really
excited
great
I.
Think
for
us.
F
E
F
So
what
we
hope
to
leave
with
I
think
riding
room
on
the
floor
will
just
be
Hercules
like
that.
That
will
not
happen,
but
I
think
we
want
to
do
for
that
is
we
can
we
can
approach
this
a
number
of
different
ways,
and
so
this
is
why
I'm
looking
for
guidance
from
all
of
you,
you
can
go
Section
by
section
by
section
as
to
what
your
rules
of
procedure
currently
are,
and
you
can
decide
do
we
need
this?
Do
we
not
need
it?
We
want
it
to
be
modified.
F
You
could
start
with
a
totally
blank
slate
and
build
them.
I
also
have
been
recording,
slash,
collecting
rules
of
procedures
from
many
many
other
municipalities
that
ask
city
manager.
Some
of
them
are
Regional,
so
I
could
send
you
a
packet
of
other
rules
of
procedures
that
so
you
can
see
what
they
look
like
in
municipalities
that
already
have
a
city
manager.
So
you
can
see
how
that
kind
of
language
works.
F
So
any
number
of
the
above
or
any
combination
of
the
above
I'm
happy
to
just
provide
whatever
you
want
ahead
of
time,
so
that
when
you
have
that
discussion,
you
can
hopefully
get
a
good
chunk
of
it.
I
think
what
will
end
up
happening
is,
if
you
could
keep
them
at
this
Committee
of
the
whole.
If
you
keep
them
at
the
concept
level
and
then
probably
a
smaller
working
group
is
going
to
need
to
then
go
and
start
writing
the
different
sections
for
that.
How?
How
can
we
most
help?
Even
that.
A
Well
I'll,
say
I
think
one
of
the
most
helpful
things
would
definitely
be
that
packet
of
comparable
or
rules
for
my
own
perspective
on
it
like
I,
think
making
sure
right.
A
One
of
the
great
virtues
of
the
system
is
the
shared
legislative
oversight
of
the
executive
at
the
same
time,
I
think
that
warrants
an
update
for
how
information
is
solicited
and
formalizing
channels,
so
that
there's
the
appropriate
balance
between
individual
members
wanting
information
but
ensuring
that
it
gets
shadowed
in
such
a
way
as
we
have
now
that
it
isn't
an
undue
burden
on
staff.
F
C
A
Leaning
towards
going
like
a
section
by
section
approach,
just
because
it
would
be
good
to
that'll
create
more
of
an
opportunity
to
like
really
look
in
see
how
things
will
you
know
before
and
after
and
what
have
you
know
and
and
really
help
us
hold
it
on
things
that
specifically,
we
might
want
to
focus
on,
whereas,
like
Blank,
Slate
I
think
there
could
be
that
they
used
to
be
missed
or
overlooked.
Legends.
My
personal
preference
section.
F
By
section
sounds
fine
and
then
what
everybody
could
also
always
do
is,
if
you
see
things
that
are
in
other
rules
of
procedure
that
you
like
that,
aren't,
then
you
can
also
have
a
space
for
what
sort
of
thing,
and
we
can
add:
okay,
everybody,
okay
with
a
section
by
section
review
that
makes
sense.
Okay,
so
we'll
kind
of
take
that
approach.
That
sounds
good.
F
Okay,
anything
else
on
that
one
voting
procedures.
This
probably
will
not
be
a
very
lengthy
discussion,
but
we
wanted
to
give
everyone
an
opportunity
to
just
understand
how
things
will
work
it
will
for
those
people
if
you're
continuing.
If
you
were
on
Council
and
you're
continuing
on
Council,
it
may
feel
awkward
in
the
beginning,
because
the
mayor
has
a
vote,
and
so
we
thought
that
we
just
should
talk
through
with
everybody.
F
What
that
will
look
like
we
need
to
just
have
a
brief
understanding
of
what
it
does
it
change,
how
we're
defining
the
Quorum.
Should
it
change
how
we're
defining
the
form
should
that
be
any
different,
and
then
we
used
to
have
the
situation
where
the
mayor
would
break
a
tie.
So
presumably
there
won't
ever
be
a
time
because
there's
going
to
be
an
odd
number
of
votes,
so
I
think
that
will
take
some
getting
used
to
in
terms
of
the
momentum.
F
What
we
have
to
talk
about
is,
do
you
want
any
form
of
a
tiebreaker
or
just
due
to
Fort
default
to
Robert's
Rules,
where,
if
it's
a
top
like,
let's
say
someone's
absent
and
it's
five
five,
then
it
would
fail
because
it
doesn't
have
the
number
so
anyway,
I
just
think
getting
into
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
the
Weeds
on
voting
procedures.
Just
so
everybody
understands
the
differences
and
if
we
need
to
write
any
new
procedures
related
to
that,
so
anything
else
about
loaning
procedures.
Are
there
things
that
I'm?
Not
thinking
of
that?
F
B
F
That's
kind
of
what
item
okay
budget
process,
so
this
is
sort
of
two-part
very
similar
to
what
I
talked
about
voting
procedures.
The
significant
difference
in
the
new
city
manager
structure
is
that,
right
now
it's
the
mayor's
budget
and
in
the
city
manager
structure.
It's
the
city
managers
project,
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
think
about
is
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
design
where
it
makes
sense
to
plug
Council
into
the
budget
process,
and
what
does
that
look
like
so
I
think
there
are
some
good
models
out
there.
F
A
F
Right,
while
we're
speaking
of
models
and
case
studies
and
and
Etc,
is
everyone
able
to
access
when
we
share
files
through
shared
spaces,
because
everyone
has
anyone
had
any.
You
know
for
the
unsexual
work
in
group.
We
send
documents
where
that
may
be
better
is
just
create
a
location
where
everybody
can
access
all
of
the
materials
instead
of
clogging
up
in
boxes
with
multiple
documents.
F
Okay,
so
I'll
start
putting
folders
in
there
and
then
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
just
notify
Council
that
okay,
the
role
clarification
folder
has
this
this
and
this
information
in
it
and
then
I
don't
have
to
send
a
million
emails
around.
Would.
F
F
Work
very
similarly
to
the
way
that
it
does
now,
except
that
the
city
manager
gives
you
the
budget
to
deliberate
on
versus
the
mayor,
giving
you
the
budget
that
piece
won't
be
different
but
and
again,
overall
clarification.
One
of
the
significant
goals
of
council
is
you're
still
the
appropriating
body
that
appropriates
the
funds
and
recommends
all
the
funds
are
spends.
Yeah
I.
A
Think
it
goes
without
saying,
you
know
we'll
probably
be
addressed
when
we
talk
about
the
stuff
but
I'm
curious
to
see
what
the
role,
what
the
role
of
the
mayor
will
look
like
in
in
a
potential
and
I
guess
it
could
barrier
differences
or
it
could
just
be
that
there's
just
another
number
of
times
so,
like
that's.
How
that
is
I'm
curious
to
see
how
that
specific
position
changes
with
this
model.
F
That
is
something
that
I
would
hope
that
you
would
discuss
as
part
of
this.
So
we're
looking
for
this
group
for
recommendations
as
to
what
you
think
it
could,
or
should
I
mean
you
could
treat
it
any
number
of
us.
The
mayor
could
be
the
person
who
does
right
now
what
the
city
Administration
chair
does
kind
of
run.
People
through
the
process
that
could
be
the
mayor
or
you
could
elect
budget
chair.
You
could
do
I
it.
That
would
be
what
we
would
be
looking
to
this
group
to
give
us
some
guidance
on.
A
I
think
it
would
just
be
useful
to
me
like
this
is
less
of
a
formal
mechanism
and
more
of
a
process-based
discussion
of
you
know
is
it
at
all
possible
for
us
to
begin
I
wasn't
ready
to
look
at
Steve
we'd
love
to
see
if
I
know
I
know
you
won't
be
your
problem
anymore,
but
you
know
like
is
it?
Is
it
possible
to
begin
the
budget
process
slightly
earlier
or.
A
Getting
a
good
sense
of
how
or
maybe
it's
less
maybe
it's
less
about
timing,
but
it's
more
about,
like
you
know,
tying
those
budgetary
requests
as
I
think
you've
done
in
previous
years,
but
not
most
recently
to
the
plan.
The
work
stream
of
the
prospective
departments,
because
I
think
I've
heard
from
folks
that
there's
been
a
little
bit
and
especially
given
the
organized
several
new
members
next
year.
Just
like
some
confusion
about
how
to
essentially
just
minimizing
the
number
of
times
people
have
to
interact
with
department
heads
and
from
their
schedules.
A
F
A
I'm
still
not
understandable,
like
that
policies,
that's
all
said
right.
The
city
managers
administering
what
the
policy-making
body
is
proposing
so,
like
that
point
of
like
where
that
guidance
is
hooked
into
coordination
with
the
city
manager,
I
think
is
the
part
where,
and
maybe
the
budget
process
isn't
the
right
place
to
do
that,
but
that's
the
presumably
the
city
manager
is
going
to
solicit.
F
Policy
direction
as
they
instruct
staff.
Okay,
that
makes
more
sense
to
me
most
of
the
models
that
I've
been
looking
at
and
the
ones
that
I
will
recommend
to
this
group
have
the
have
the
council's
bookend
the
budget
process.
So
the
budget
process
starts
with
Council
right.
It
gets
handed
off
to
the
city
manager
and
then
it
comes
back
to
council
right.
So
maybe
that
is
yes
right
right.
F
So
what
just
the
back
end
right
now,
it's
just
because
we
have
an
elected
right
so
in
that
instance,
or
in
those
models
and
again
we're
going
to
get
into
it
at
that
level.
But
I'm
trying
to
address
your
question
tonight
in
those
models.
There's
like
a
policy
setting,
meaning
where
the
council
gets
together
and
takes
a
look
at
you
could
review
last
year's
budget.
F
A
This
wasn't
I
apologize
yourself
came
to
me
in
recent
more
recently,
but
it
pertains
to
like
earlier
sections
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
would
fit
better
under
like
your
goals
and
classifications
versus
rules
and
procedures
about
conversation,
specifically
talking
about
how
negotiations
with
collective
bargaining
would
change
the
role
of
city
manager,
mayor
and
Council.
How
that
would
look
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
earmark
some
time
specifically
to
to
talk
about
those
discussions
at
one
of
these
cows.
A
May
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
by
Jorge;
secondly,
bye
all
those
in
favor
and
I
carry
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Colleagues.