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F
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
Wednesday
February
22nd
meeting
with
the
city
Administration
committee,
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
order
recognize
a
colleague
from
the
fourth
ward,
where
I
had
a
meeting.
F
And
all
the
person
Jeffrey
Barkin
is
unable
to
attend
this
evening
before
we
get
into
it
agenda
review.
Are
there
any
additions
or
deletions
to
the
agenda
like
seeing
none
move
to
review
and
approval
of
the
minute
make
a
motion
on
those
please
forehead.
Second,
four
minutes.
F
But
I
suspect
that
neither
of
them
are
here
public
comments
is
that
true,
okay,
great
in
that
case,
we'll
just
go
straight
to
the
consent
agenda,
so
I'd
like
to
move
that
loose
Jorge,
Thank
You
by
George,
all
those
in
Baylor,
and
that
is
four
zero.
Thank
you.
Okay.
F
F
We
have
this
on
here
as
a
voting
item
this
evening,
because
it's
easier
to
have
it:
let's
go
ahead
and
remove
it
off
if
there
are
still
vitamins
and
the
other
way
around.
But
we've
been
going
over
these
proposed
revisions
for
a
bit
of
time.
The
chief
of
staff
very
helpfully
reminds
me,
but
also
I,
think
all
of
us
that
we'll
have
to
obviously
redo
rules
procedure
again
next
year,
because
we'll
have
a
lot
more
substantive
change
in
how
business
is
conducted
in
the
city.
F
But
I
wanted
to
give
colleagues
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
rules
as
a
draftly
amended
as
well
as
draw
everyone's
attention
to
comments
that
were
circulated
earlier
today
by
old
Oakland's
abroad.
And
my
response
this
afternoon
and
we'll
return
it
over
to
Colleen's
very
discussion.
F
E
Thank
you
I
appreciate,
seeing
this
I
would
also
just
remind
us
all
that
discussions
such
as
the
email
exchanges
today
well
fruitful,
should
also
be
on
Council
floor
rather
than
comments
across
the
email.
So
we
should
have
these
transparently
for
the
public.
F
Yeah
absolutely
I
think
we
can
definitely
include
that
exchange.
If
we'd
like
in
a
future
supporting
documentation,
I
mean
I
will
attempt
to
summarize
them,
which
simply
Cindy
was
going
to
join
us
until
the
weather.
F
So
the
first
point
that
was
raised
was
comment
in
Section
1
point
four
or
voted
for
voting
questioning
the
decision
to
strike
what
the
older
person
of
the
older
persons
after
two
during
the
vote
for
overwriting,
they
will
obedo.
The
question
and
concern
that
was
raised
was
whether
or
not
this
would
permit
a
a
mayor
who
is
a
member
of
County
Council
to
participate
in
a
vote
to
override
him
in
a
world
veto.
F
F
My
further
I
mean
yeah
I,
think
it
makes
intuitive
sense
to
not
have
any
mayor
be
able
to
vote
in
the
decision
to
override
their
veto.
I
would
also
note
that
this
is
a
power
that
will
no
longer
exist
and
then
there's
always
starting
next
year,
which
is
which
was
included
in
my
response.
F
Second
was
a
question
about
order
into
Forum
with
Oliver's
Brock,
noting
that
their
current
rules
do
not
allow
a
person
to
speak
without
quote
attending
a
meeting,
but
noting
that
our
we
don't
explicitly
Define
an
attendance
and
I
think
this
was
speaking
to
the
zoom
participation
from
the
members
of
the
public,
as
well
as
those
who
are
attend
in
person.
F
A
procedural
standpoint.
I
read
this
as
still
covered
under
eight
through
ten
sections,
eight
through
ten
of
the
about
the
order
in
the
Quorum
part
of
the
code,
and
even
you
know,
for
those
who
sign
up
to
speak
online,
they
fill
out
a
virtual
comment
card
in
in
their
attempt
to
sign
up
in
terms
of
what
they're
speaking
about
when
they
register
again
question
for
probably
open
question
for
colleagues.
F
Do
we
feel
that
we
need
to
make
that
specific
or
explicit
rather
or
do
we
feel
that
it's
covered
in
the
current
reading?
F
Then
there
was
a
note
about
a
new
explicitly
enumerating
the
standing
committees
and
also
a
very
important
point
that
the
public
safety
Community
outstanding
Community,
but
rather
a
special
committee
again
I,
think
we
don't
I
think
this
is
a
good
comment.
We
don't
want
to
sort
of,
even
though
I
don't
believe
this
interferes
with
the
mayor's
ability
to
create
committees
standing
or
otherwise.
F
Obviously
we
wouldn't
want
to
avoid
the
possibility
for
confusion
at
any
point,
so
I
think
you
know
not
explicitly
integrating
what
those
committees
are
very
reasonable.
F
I
think
the
language,
both
in
the
comments
that
this
committee
received
last
year
when
the
previous
working
group,
as
well
as
the
attention
of
it
had
so
it
made
over
the
last
year,
I
think
we're
just
intended
to
clarify
that
rules
of
procedure
apply
to
the
Committees
in
the
same
way
that
they
applied
accounting
at
Large
and
the
last
comment,
the
old
version
of
rock
Rays,
whether
you
know
whether
or
not
rules
should
be
able
to
be
alternated
by
the
entire
County
Council
or
the
standing
committee
and
I
think
that
is
a
well-taking
comment,
obviously
not
altered
by
the
standing
committee.
F
Although
I
do
believe
that
section,
the
the
following
clause
about
temporary
suspension,
we
may
want
to
As
a
matter
of
policy
at
least
consider
whether
standing
committee
should
be
able
to
temporarily
suspend
rules.
F
This
is
very
like
parliamentary
inside
baseball
I,
don't
I,
can't
I
I,
can't
think
of
a
time
when
we've
even
had
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules,
but
again
just
whether
or
not
one
wants
to
have
that
procedural
option
available
and
even
I
honestly
can't
even
conjure
an
example
of
why
we
would
but
parliamentary
values
have
to
prepare
for
vegetables.
So
thank
you
mayor.
Those
are
the
substance
of
old
person,
Brock's
comments
and
my
reply
and
happy
to
make
that
available.
A
I
appreciate
Cynthia's
feedback
on
this
I
think
it
was
especially
very
good
by
the
way
and
then
I
appreciate
that
dude
I
appreciate
you,
the
Lord,
going
into
having
these
Messengers
revise,
even
though
everybody
have
to
look
at
them
again.
Accuracy
manager,
but
you
know
I
I,
think
that
these
these
additions
and
how
to
make
make
sense
and
so
I'll
start
but
I
appreciate
the
report.
Thank
you.
F
I
also
quickly
say
most
of
the
work
that
went
into
this
did
credit
to
brought
your
heart
and
former
Oliver
Don
Fleming.
Who
did
a
lot
of
this
work
before
it
was
handed
off
to
our
committee
last
year.
Other
comments
in
public
storage.
Please.
B
Not
muted
I
I
agree
with
Cynthia,
actually
I,
don't
think
the
mayor
should
be
allowed
to
vote
to
not
override
their
veto
and
if
these
were
gonna
have
to
be
changed
in
10
months
time,
because
the
mayor
will
be
then
a
full-fledged
member
County
Council
without
veto
power,
I,
don't
see
why
we
should
change
this
now.
B
And
that
that
kind
of
goes
for
the
rest
of
the
things
too.
We
have
to
make
major
changes
in
10
months.
I,
don't
see
any
need
to
make
these
changes
now.
F
I,
don't
think
you're
alone
in
that
I
think
I
mean
from
my
perspective.
I
could
go
either
way,
I
think
most
bodies
at
least
minorly,
a
mannerable
procedurally
agree
approved
procedure
on
an
annual
basis
and
by
the
time
of
the
practice
of
their
body,
and,
obviously
again,
this
is
going
to
have
to
be
a
much
more
time
intensive
project.
So
if
I
guess
I
guess
next
question
would
be.
Is
that
on
formal
motion
to
the
table
for.
F
Yeah
I
mean
it'll
need
to
go
back
like
in
the
I,
mean
we're
obviously
talking
about
the
city
manager
transition
plan
later
this
evening,
but
I
think
this
probably
should
be
worked
on
concurrently.
Okay,
so
I
think
you
know
whether
it's
table
for
10
months,
whether
it's
table
for
one
or
two
months
until
it
comes
back
as
a
detection
item
for
the
group
can
be
working
on.
F
G
D
F
I
would
encourage
people
to
to
you
know
to
to
review
these
in
the
interim
just
because
we
want
to
have
I
think
relatively
fresh
in
mind
as
we
as
we
work
on
the
revisions.
F
F
F
Would
be
a
proposal
to
amend
the
city
code
to
remove
existing
method
of
filing
affilink
vacancies
or
appointment
process
and
instead
and
proposed
a
special
election
imaginative
that
is
similar
to
what
our
colleagues
of
accounting
do.
F
There
was
a
record
there
was
a
new
document
circulated
or
just
now
which
we
will
add
to
the
the
design
supporting
this
legislation.
Before
we
begin
discussion,
I
will
invite
Steve
to
share.
Please
comments
on
the
on
the
recordings.
Okay,.
H
Yeah
I
speaking
here,
potentially
in
opposition
to
through
the
proposed
charity,
change,
I
think
on
the
therapist.
You
know
having
a
special
election
to
build
a
vacancy
sounds
really
good.
It
sounds
like
it's
very
Democratic,
but
I
seen
the
process
in
five
special
elections
for
County
London
Blanchard.
It's
a
put
that
into
the
county
Charter
back
around
2000
and
I,
don't
think
it's
quite
as
transparent
or
I
mean
it's
Democratic
in
that
the
people
vote,
but.
H
Puts
out
some
of
my
feelings
on
the
left-hand
side,
a
special
election
to
fill
a
vacancy
all
that
stuff,
you
know
I'm
reasonably
sure
of
you
know
because
I've
administered
it
and
you
know-
I
live
with
election
law
all
the
time
stuff
on
the
right
side,
there's
a
little
bit
more
of
how
I
perceive
this
appointment
process
has
gone
in
the
past.
H
The
you
know
when
your
special
election
has
a
totally
different
calendar
it.
If
you
work
backwards
from
the
date
of
the
election
that
you
Proclaim,
we
have
to
certify
the
candidates
on
the
ballot
53
days
prior
to
that
and
the
ballot
access
process
starts
the
date
of
the
Proclamation
and
the
way
that
the
four
political
parties
put
their
put
a
candidate
on
the
ballot
and
won
one
candidate
for
party
is
that
they
they
meet
and
further
party
rules.
H
They
select
the
person
to
go
on
the
ballot
and
file
a
certificate
of
the
nomination
in
our
office
and
it's
all
gone.
There
is
an
independent
nominating
process
for
that.
My
new
starts
the
date
of
the
Proclamation
and
they
have
to
file
the
petition
within
12
days
of
that
data.
The
proclamation
and
that
independent
nominating
petition
has
to
have
the
same
amount
of
signatures
you
would
have
if
you
have
the
whole
five
or
six
week
petitioning
process
that
there
normally
occurs
through
dependent
nominating
petitions.
H
Yeah
I
tell
you
the
five
special
elections
that
I've
you
know
won.
County
Legislature
who've
never
been
one
with
more
two
more
than
two
candidates
in
there
and
there's
been
the
two
that
have
been
totally
unopposed
well,
like
put
some
clothes
and
cons.
I
think
the
pros
the
voters
could
make
the
decision,
but
the
pecans
I
think
greatly
outweigh
it.
It's
a
very
short
and
immediate
ballot
access
process.
H
I
H
Decide
if
they
want
to
resign
from
whatever,
let's
say
from
Atomic
Council-
and
you
know,
planning
on
doing
it
a
month
from
now.
Maybe
we'll
talk
to
a
couple
friends
that
are
well
connected
and
they
think
I'm
going
to
reside
in
a
couple
of
you
know
a
month
or
so
you
think
you
can,
you
might
want
to
run,
you
can
Grease
the
kids
for
them,
give
them
a
little
bit
of
an
advantage
that
that
can
happen.
You
know
with
that
process
and
I
think
the
choice
of
the
candidates
is
limited.
H
H
Currently,
we
almost
came
very
close
to
this
past
year
having
a
vacancy
occur
where,
if
the
person
had
resigned
on
a
date
that
he
was
intending
to
resign,
we
would
have
been
having
an
election
on
January
3rd
with
early
voting
starting
on
Christmas
Eve.
You
know
you
don't
have
control
over
those
things
and
they
tend
to
occur
in
a
special
elections
can
occur
when
it's
really
inconvenient
for
boards
to
administer
last
year,
Tom
Reed
when
he
resigned
at
special
election,
because
you
know
totally,
it
was
totally
something
new.
H
We
never
ever
run
a
special
election
in
our
primary
election.
On
the
same
day,
they
thought
they
were
doing
a
favor,
putting
those
two
elections
on
the
same
day,
but
they
each
had
different
electorates.
One
could
only
the
Democrats
could
vote
in
and
the
other
election
everybody
could
vote
in.
But-
and
that's
you
know,
that's
where
I
see
from
the
Board
of
Elections
standpoint
and
I.
Just
think
that
you
know,
once
you
declare
you
proclaim
the
election,
you
lose
any
control
over
the
process.
H
You
know
that
on
the
sports
elections,
political
parties-
individuals,
whereas
for
the
process
you
have
now
from
where
I,
what
I've
observed
is
that
you
can
publicize
the
vacancy
immediately.
You
can
establish
a
process.
You
can
have
control
over
that
process.
Any
eligible
candidate
can
apply.
Common
Council
can
interview
the
candidate,
the
televise,
the
interviews
that
they
choose.
However,
you
want
to
create
the
process
of
general
public
and
make
evaluations
of
the
common
Council,
and
you
know
that
the
candidates
a
lot
more
thoroughly
than
political
parties.
H
You
know
cat
because,
there's
more
time
to
do
it
and
the
whole
process
I
imagine
can
be
accomplished
within
60
days
and
doing
it
in
a
deliberate
manner
and
historically,
the
appointed
replacement.
You
know
with
the
common
Council
when
you've
had
vacancies
has
often
been
elected
at
the
next
general
election.
There's
have
been
exceptions.
That's
true,
though
it's
an
exception,
but
I
think
at
the
time
that
you
were
considering
the
appointment.
H
I,
don't
believe
the
person
that
actually
you
know,
unseated
the
person
that
was
selected
I,
don't
think
they
were
under
consideration
for
the
you
know
for
the
position
yeah
for
the
next
election.
It
goes
before
the
voters
and
the
voters
made
their
choice.
Then
you
know:
that's
I,
just
think
that
it's
a
much
more
transparent
and
clean
and
process
that
you
can
control
and
make
it
a
transparent
and
open.
E
I
don't
see
included
in
here,
and
this
has
been
a
question
mark
potential
cost
of
running
a
special
election
and
the
staffing
needs
Board
of
Elections
staff
meetings,
we're
running
special
elections.
Can
you
come
in
on
both
those
questions?.
H
Email
that
I
did
Senator
Robert
I
believe
has
been
shared
with
everybody
on
common
Council
I
outline
the
Clause
through
the
special
election,
because
that
special
election
I
think
as
far
as
cost
would
be
very
similar
to.
If
you
had
an
opening
on
common
Council.
H
You
know
it
happened
to
be
three
polling
places
there.
It
could
be
as
little
as
one
polling
place
depending
on
where
the
killers
of
Indians
scored
it,
maybe
not
where
the
whole
thing
was,
would
occur,
go
to
class
I,
I
would
say
it's
a
minimum
of
10
000..
We
sat
we.
We
call
on
our
more
dependable
election
inspectors
to
support
the
early
voting
portion
on
Election
Day.
H
It's
you
know.
If
it
was
a
mayor
and
it
was
city-wide,
it
would
be
considerably
more
expensive.
It
didn't
really
cost
that
out.
But
you
know
what
was
the
the
other
was
cost
and
the
other.
H
In
other
near
you're,
bringing
them
in
on,
you
know
Sun,
Saturdays
and
Sundays
and
possibly
holidays.
You
know
it's
pretty
consultant
with
other
elections
other
than
you
know
they
could
come
in
a
very
identity.
The
time
of
the
airport
workers.
F
See,
let
me
ask
you
and
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
categories
of
objections
right.
Some
of
those
are
I
think
significantly
more
addressable
than
others
like,
for
example,
an
ordinance
could
be
grafted
in
such
a
way
to
either
extend
the
the
calendar
timeline
or
not
inclusively
account
in
the
holidays.
F
For
example,
I
think
that's
an
important
point
that
you're
raising
about
the
that
you
can
see
in
the
third
legislative
industry,
for
example,
and
the
timing
that
that
would
have
occurred
there,
but
I
think
there's
the
opportunity
if
one
were
to
move
forward
with
the
the
election
method.
F
J
F
For
me,
this
boils
down
to
I,
absolutely
hear
the
logistical
and
the
financial
considerations
I,
don't
view,
for
example,
the
appointed
replacement
being
elected
at
the
next
general
election
of
the
existing
method,
I
mean
as
a
political
scientist
right.
There
is
a
real
empirical
phenomenon
that
is
the
incumbency
advantage
and
so
from
a
from
a
democratic
perspective
that
is
I
think
a
negative
of
the
existing
system.
F
A
But
I'll
turn
it
over
to
other
counties.
Orientation.
Yeah
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
this
information.
Steve
and
I
appreciate
you.
A
A
A
serious
concern
for
me,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know,
and
then
looking
at
these
pros
and
cons
lists,
you
know
it
seems
you
could
make
arrogance
very
one-sided,
but
that
one
of
the
motor
gets
to
make
a
decision
that
speak
and
I.
That's
something
that
I
think
is
really
goes
a
lot
a
long
way
that
is
very
important
and
in
general,
I
think
we,
you
know
it's.
A
It's
I,
think
it's
important
that
democracy
in
general
and
while
I,
while
I
respect
how
we
have
done
things
in
the
past,
I
respect,
so
the
effectiveness
that
could
be
done
with
sort
of
betting
in
this
employment
account
Council
and
how
those
things
have
or
in
the
county
when
it
was
that
way.
I
see
the
value
in
that
I
also
just
want
to
reflect
that
in
general.
A
A
The
level
was
the
last
paragraph
and
I
think
there
are
more
systemic
accepts.
We
need
to
take
it
to
to
address
that,
and
that
was
Noah
doesn't
necessarily
do
all
of
those
things
I'm
glad
you
know
that.
A
In
general,
I
think
having
a
more
democratic
processity
open
to
the
constituency,
even
if
that
does
get
relegated
through
the
channels
are
parties
is
something
that
I'm
in
favor
of,
and
you
know
this
isn't
perfect
I,
don't
think
which
you
think
that
it's
just
in
the
right
direction,
but
I
do
really
appreciate
all
the
concerns
and
and
feedback.
That's
been
brought
To
Us
by
this
too
much.
B
I
agree
with
Jorge
and
Rob
and
is
important
for
voters
to
have
a
say,
and
they
always
do
it
election
time.
B
These
appointments
are
generally
for
short
periods
of
time.
I
first
came
on
Council
after
I
was
appointed
on
the
last
one.
We've
worked
very
care
Carolyn
and
you
might
think
that
was
an
advantage
to
being
incumbent,
but
I
would
argue
that
in
that
case
it
was
not
an
advantage
because
I
was
busy
running
the
job
and
going
to
meetings
and
Cindy
was
going
door
to
door
and
so.
B
B
Steve
DeWitt
has
been
doing
this
for
quite
a
while
and
I
really
respect
his
knowledge
and
I
know
that
he
is
thinking
about
how
to
do
this
most
democratically
and
when
you
see
now,
parties
can
just
kind
of
pick
their
own
people
and
put
their
money
behind
that,
and
that's
not
necessarily
democratic,
so
I
will
I
will
take
Steve's
advice
and
I
will
suggest
and
keep
things
the
way
they
are.
B
B
The
the
goal
of
diversifying
members
of
council-
we
can
do
that
too.
I
E
I
Thanks
Robert
yeah
I
just
want
to
add
to
the
conversation,
speaking
of
being
Democratic,
the
consideration
that
that
war
council
wants
to
want
or
Council
to
choose
to
move
in
this
direction.
I
There
is
the
potential
for
the
need
for
a
referendum,
so
it
might
be
a
slow
process
of
making
a
shift
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
council's
aware
of
that
I'll
point
to
two
elements
of
the
municipal
home
rule
law.
That
Council
would
want
to
consider
both
in
section
23
of
the
municipal
home
rule
law.
I
I
Now
we
can
start
to
debate
for
ourselves
whether
this
is
in
fact
changing
the
manner
in
which
an
elective
officer
is
elected
or
appointed,
because
that's
the
transition
that's
occurring,
but
but
I
think
there's
a
concern
there
and
additionally,
in
any
event,
subsection
2f
then
requires
a
referendum
when
you
are
abolishing
transferring
or
curtailing
any
power
of
an
elective
officer,
in
this
case
the
mayor.
I
So
if
this
change
were
to
take
effect
next
year,
well,
no
even
then
you
know
it
depends
where
Council
were
to
go
with
the
matter,
but
but
even
then
I
I
believe
there
would
be
additional
concern
there.
So
I
think
Council
needs
to
consider
the
potential
that
this
would
have
a
referendum
involve.
F
So,
just
to
clarify
two
points
are
here
one
in
a
hypothetical
case
where
let's
say
this
past
Council,
it's
not
even
a
voting
anything
to
purely
If
This
Were
to
pass
Council
next
week.
It
could
in
fact
appear
on
the
November
ballot
right
because
it's
before.
I
The
cutoff
that
is
true,
the
cutoff,
is
in
the
first
or
second
week
of
August.
For
me,
this
speaks
to.
F
This
like
for
me
this
is
very
helpful.
All
right.
Thank
you
because
for
me
this
speaks
more
to
you
know.
If
it
is
eligible
for
referendum,
my
position
will
be
put
it
on
the
ballot.
If
your
voters
understand
the
trade-offs
and
think
this
is
a
better
method
great,
if
not
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
move
forward.
I
And
Robert
may
I
just
chime
in
there
briefly,
yes,
ma'am
yeah
sure
I'll
just
say
from
the
mechanics
angle,
and
certainly
an
important
question
like
this
is
about
much
more
than
mechanics
in
that
I'm
sure
we
all
recognize
that,
but
I
will
just
say
from
the
mechanics
angle
having
helped
the
city
through
the
mechanics
of
a
number
of
referenda,
including
one
just
this
past
election
cycle.
I
A
referendum
is
a
meaningful
undertaking
both
for
the
public,
as
you
all
well
know
better
than
me
in
terms
of
understanding.
What's
on
the
ballot
and
educating
themselves
and
making
choices,
but
also
in
terms
of
the
internal
mechanics
for
common
Council
for
the
city
clerk's
office
for
my
office
for
the
mayor's
office
for
Steve
Dewitt's
office,
so
I
I
I
would
encourage
Council
to
send
to
referendum
only
a
law
that
counsel
genuinely
hopes
to
see
approve
that
reference.
F
Oh
totally
agree
I
mean
my
position
is
very
clear,
but
yeah,
no
that's
I
I
was
not
at
all.
Advocating
we
experimentally,
send
it.
I
was
just
lending
the
the
argument
where
I
think
it
is
in
public
interest.
Other
other
comments
right
of.
G
I
got
distracted
by
Jorge
over
there
going
so
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I,
don't
know
enough
at
this
point
to
really
weigh
in
on
this,
and
especially
since
I
am
the
most
decent
person
that
this
whole
thing
you
know
address,
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
I'm,
listening
and
learning
and
don't
feel
like
I
can
really
speak
to
it.
At
this
point,
thank.
A
You
thank
you
I'm,
sorry,
but
a
question
that
I
just
had,
and
the
answer
is
my
very
early
to
know,
and
it
could
also
very
good
like
a
whole
another
can
of
worms
in
the
in
the
realm
of
logistics,
but
I
know
for
me
the
biggest
issue
you
know
with
this
so
far,
and
it's
not
a
real
great
cat
on
him.
That
is
the
question
of
like
probably
picking
you
can
really
run
on
the
ballot.
Is
that
just
some?
Is
that
just
something
that
rests
entirely
with
the
specific
party?
We
have
no
jurisdiction.
A
That
was
right
here
to
save
all
right
yeah.
You
know
this
I
mean
I,
don't
know,
maybe
things
a
lot
I
think
it's
easier
for
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
question
of
like
this
being
a
more
democratic
process,
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
also
yeah,
I,
think
that
makes
sense
and
yeah
that's
my
question,
so
we
should
look
into
that.
A
But
if
you
recognizes,
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
the
most
democratic
outlet
for
folks
to
do
that,
and
there
are
very
real
problems
with
I
think
how
we
do
things
now
and
that
there
are,
you
know,
concerns
and
issues
and
how
you
could
lose
this
in
this
direction.
I
know
that
my
gut
is
telling
me
that
this
feels
the
most
democratic
option.
But
again
you
know
you're
an
expert
in
this
in
between
this.
For
a
long
time
and
I
appreciate
those
feedbacks
and
there
are
definitely
logistical
concerns.
A
H
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
I
noticed
that
it
was,
you
know
it.
It
refers
to
elected
offices,
but
in
the
text
of
it
the
only
recursion
of
Mayor
and
County
council
members
never
mentions
Treasures.
H
So
you
know
it
might
want
to
just
be
more
clear
whether
judges
are
included.
H
K
Thank
you
actually,
I
will
be
sending
out
electronically.
Literally
personally,
in
the
morning,
we
do
have
our
new
hire
you
to
date,
numbers
we
are
in,
and
so
we
will
get
that
in
addition,
the
year
to
date
and
when
I
say
year
to
date,
2022.
K
or
2022,
the
new
hires
and
the
demographic
breakdown
for
the
new
hires,
the
promotions,
any
separations,
voluntary
or
for
whatever
reason
and
then
retirement.
So
you
will
get
all
of
those
numbers.
Last
year
we
actually
hired
a
total
of
45
individuals
and
be
successful
to
hire
last
year.
K
On
the
other
hand,
we
we
also
had
several
separations
and
retirements
that
have
sort
of
met
us
at
close
to
zero
on
that.
So
we
still,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
work
to
do
you
just
sent
through
consent
agenda
the
the
HR
recruitment
specialist.
So
we
will
be
advertising
starting
next
week
for
that
position,
with
the
hopes
of
them
starting
April
1st.
So.
F
Close
to
Net
Zero,
do
you
know
probably
your
head
or
there?
Is
it
positive
or
negative.
K
B
And
I'll
show
you:
can
you
help
us
understand
why
exams
for
candies
for
police
is
so.
K
Actually,
no
well
I.
Cannot
it's
not
my
decision.
It's
a
state
decision
in
terms
of
police
officers,
yeah,
okay,
my
understanding
it
has
to
do
with
security.
I,
don't
know
that
I
haven't
spoken
with
the
state.
K
This
is
through
our
local
Civic
Service
Commission,
that
I
understand
it
has
to
do
with
security
and
Staffing
at
the
state
level,
because
it
does
require
a
lot
of
effort,
one
developing
the
exams,
you
need
expertise
and
staff
are
doing
that
and
and
just
the
the
number,
the
administrative
sort
of
Duties
that
come
along
with
all
of
this.
So
it's
we,
the
city
of
Ithaca,
has
requested,
recruit
ongoing
recruitment
exams,
but
they
and
not
just
us
I
mean
many
other
municipalities,
especially
now,
but
this
thing
says
no
I,
don't
you.
B
K
B
K
F
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
I'm.
Looking
for
your
getting
that
information
tomorrow
and
again,
please
forgive
me
if
this
is
something
I
would
invited
before
and
I'm
just
forgetting-
and
this
is
just
not
a
good
place
or
we're
trying
to
have
this
conversation.
A
But
I
am
curious
about
these
conversations
with
caffeine
and
whatnot,
and
conversations
are
organized
our
organized
labor
and
I,
don't
know
again:
I
recommend
who's
going
to
be
freaking
subject
to
have
a
conversation
about
in
in
the
rise
of
the
public,
and
this
is
something
that
needs
to
happen
in
the
different
session
and
does
this
sound
you're
really
familiar
to
something
I
brought
up
last
month.
So
please
shut
that
down
at
the
top
valuable,
but
is
there
any
way
that
these
HR
enforcement
could
involve
conversations
regarding
you
know
existing
staff
systems.
A
K
A
A
I
think
that'd
be
a
good
idea,
but
more
specifically
like
how
we
on
the
common
Council
can
can
look
at
that
and
since
again
negotiating,
he
was
informed
by
the
jurisdiction
of
the
mayor
and
the
common
Council
of
what
we,
how
we
want
trainers
to
go,
having
conversations
about
what
that
could
look
like
so
that
we
can
invest,
we
need
the
best,
informative
Studio
to
them
and
has
to
be
there
sure.
Okay,.
K
My
understanding
is
that
you
have
set
up
a
system
to
do
that
and
you
have
a
labor
liaison
who
attends
those
meetings.
You
have
also
requested
periodic
updates
from
the
negotiators,
and
the
topics
that
are
negotiable
should
be
discussed
in
executive
session,
and
my
understanding
is
that
we
have
that
process
in
place.
We
haven't
had
a
meeting
yet,
but
there
are,
there
should
be
one
coming
up.
A
To
me,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
George's
are
at
our
liaison,
if
if
we
should
dedicate
part
of
the
time
for
these
reports,
we're
going
to
provide
time
for
just
going
to
the
executive
session
when
we
have
met
with
when
you
participated
in
these
or
if
that's
just
a
separate
thing
that
we
should
just
carve
out
time
for
separately.
But
it
does
seem
like
a
place
that
City
Administration
can
exist,
that
we
want
to
have
these
conversations
and
then
bring
it
to
campus
I'll.
F
Just
jump
in
and
say:
I
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
CA
and
like
jurisdiction,
I
do
think
in
the
in
the
spirit
intent
of
the
Labor
Ready
I
I,
wonder
if
it
makes
more
sense
to
do
those
at
Council.
D
F
Because
that
I
mean
like
the
spirit
of
what
you're
saying,
I
totally
get
in
my
mind,
what
an
immediately
jumps
to
is.
We
have
a
five.
You
know
five
member
executive
session
where
we
go
yeah.
We
really
should
talk
about
this
with
all
the
counseling
next
week.
Right
so
I
he'll
move
the
telephone
again.
A
E
A
E
Yeah
I
I
agree
to
that
point
also
agreed
and
wanted
labor
liaison
on
Council.
There
really
is
I'm,
not
a
CA,
labor
liaison,
so
I
think.
B
K
K
K
K
Those
individuals
can
still
be
considered,
but
if
we
have
the
exam
we
would
it
just
it
literally
doesn't
make
sense.
Did
they
throw
on
the
search
money?
Yes,
exactly.
F
All
right
move
to
section
five,
the
finance
budget,
Appropriations
items
and
I
get
someone
to
move.
5.1
update
hours,
react
division,
for
instance,.
G
Okay,
Finance
graduate
in
Appropriations
5.1
resolution
to
amend
GF
roster
program
coordinator
position,
whereas
the
greater
Indica
Activity
Center
via
needs
a
program
coordinator
position
to
manage
some
of
its
special
initiatives,
including
serving
as
the
school-aged
child
care
program
director
at
sacc,
and
whereas
the
mayor
and
common
Council
included
this
position
in
the
authorized.
G
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
personnel
roster
of
giac
shall
be
amended
as
follows.
Increase
one
GF
program
coordinator
from
20
hours
a
week
to
25
hours
a
week
and
be
a
further
resolved.
That
said,
roster
Amendment
will
be
made
within
the
existing
funds
of
the
2023
authorized.
Gm
projector.
L
I'm,
having
a
really
hard
time
hearing
you,
but
pretty
much
if
you're
asking,
if
there's
any
more
information,
it's
pretty
much,
what
Chris
red
that
we
do
need
and
if
the
position
could
be
more
hours,
we'd
appreciate
the
effort
at
this
point
we
know
at
minimum
we
could
use
25
hours.
The
sac
director
sacc
is
a
person
who
does
all
of
our
ocfs
regulations
items
our
former
deputy
director,
Carrie
Phillips,
had
that
responsibility,
and
it
really
is
a
very,
very
intense
and
time-consuming
job.
That
requires
very,
very
careful
attention.
L
Otherwise,
it's
you
know
it
messes
with
our
license
to
operate
the
school
age,
Child
Care
Program.
So
this
is
a
very
important
position
for
us
and
we
appreciated
that
position
will
also
be
supporting
the
special
events
that
GF
offers
for
the
community,
because
there's
no
one
person
who
really
helps
to
organize
those
special
events
and
a
lot
is
being
put
on
staff
who
are
already
stretched
because
very
short
staff.
L
So
so
that
mainly
is
why
we're
we
ask
for
this
position
in
the
budget
and
why
we'd
like
to
see
the
errors
increase
and
plus
it
helps
to
attract
a
good
candidate.
The
number
of
hours.
B
B
5.2
is
a
resolution
for
a
temporary
access
movement
from
the
city
of
Ithaca
to
New
York,
State,
Electric
and
Gas
Corporation
nice
here,
whereas
the
city
of
Ithaca
owns
a
land
interest
or
public
water
supply
within
tax
parcel
55-1-1
and
whereas
the
New
York,
State,
Electric
and
Gas
Corporation
NYSEG
loans
and
maintains
an
overhead
utility
easement
within
city
land
and
whereas
indirect
access
to
the
NYSEG
utility
easement
can
be
entertain.
Some
city
property
off
the
cottage
enrolled
in
the
town
of
Ithaca,
more
specifically
between
Tech
parcel.
B
48-1-9.1
and
Tech,
partial
40-1-10
and
whereas
nysig
is
prepared,
the
temporary
he's
been
active
extension
service.
That
utility
include
the
kayaking
World
access
and
whereas
the
city
is
the
direct
in
granting
NYSEG
access
to
its
parts,
now,
therefore
be
it
resolved
their
careful
review
of
the
temporary
access
foreign.
J
Access
easement,
that's
required
by
law,
for
anybody
to
enter
on
public
property.
Nyseg
has
a
utility
easement
that
runs
through
our
Watershed
and
they're,
just
looking
to
gain
access
to
it
to
service
their
own
easement
off
of
Coddington
Road
thanks.
F
F
Or
presentation
I
will
be
city
manager,
transition,
update.
C
Or
as
I
promise,
giving
our
regular
updates
on
what's
been
going
on
with
the
manager
transition
through
the
screen,
I've
also
committed
to
providing
a
written
report
that'll
make
it
easier
for
people
to
background
information.
So
I
won't
read
through
everything
in
the
report
you
had
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
of
things.
C
You'll
note
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
guide
some
from
all
of
you
is
that
we
we
mentioned
last
month
that
we
know
that
some
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
happening
really
sort
of
internally,
but
the
Department's
just
kind
of
weighing
in
on
processes
and
procedures
and
things
that
need
to
be
changed.
So
you'll
see
some
of
that
outline
in
the
workplace.
C
Then
we
know
that
some
of
it
is
going
to
need
to
involve
Council
directly
because
there
are
going
to
be
some
changes
that
impact
more
specifically
council's
role
in
the
mayor's
role
Etc.
So
I've
proposed
a
couple
of
dates
and
topics
and
I
just
wanted
some
feedback
from
all
of
you
on
that.
As
you
know,
we
have
one
Wednesday
a
month
where
we
sort
of
asked
you
to
put
attention
full.net
that
we
need
to
convene
What's
called
the
committee
of
the
whole
and
we
happen
to
have
two
extra
Wednesday
in
May.
C
So
you
get
your
choice
of
what
tape
works
better
the
times
31st
and
we've
got
some
topics
suggestions.
There
are
role,
clarification,
voting
procedures,
rules
of
procedure
on
there
and
the
budget
process,
so
I
guess
the
first
thing
I
was
asking
for:
is
there
any
preference
or
one
date
for
the
other
date?
C
A
A
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is
I
understand
that
we
all
have
a
difficult
schedules
and
you
guys
need
time
to
crush
the
house,
but
having
a
lot
of
these
conversations
amongst
amongst
members
of
council,
starting
with
manually,
that's
in
the
building
in
my
estimate,
given
that
we
are
trying
to
have
this
process
ready,
you
know
with
a
fairly
quick
and
run
around
and
so
I
understand
that
we
want.
We
don't
want.
We
want
to
avoid
similar
with
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier.
A
You
know
degrees
of
telephone
where
we
have
something
wrong
to
the
UCA
and
our
broader
Council
the
same
thing,
but
I
am
a
little
curious
as
to
you
know
it
does.
Is
things
like
this
through
the
administration
seems
like
our
program
Israel
we
can
have.
We
need
to
have
some
of
these
conversations
as,
like
you
know
this
role
and
I
didn't
worry
that
we'll
be
in
a
time
crunch.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
these
conversations.
A
Speaking
in
the
name,
though
I
do
appreciate
the
options
that
you
propose,
but
that's
why
I'm
coming
from
it
does
seem
to
be.
Although
far
is
off
to
have
someone
who's
conversations
about
the
house.
C
Song
so
I
think
what
you're
getting
is
once
a
month
at
this
meeting,
we
will
have
a
whole
bunch
of
things
I'm
going
to
be
bringing
to
this
group,
which
is
sort
of
as
the
process
of
the
movement.
So
these
dates
were
sort
of
I'm.
Looking
at
more
of
the
end
of
the
process,
not
the
start
of
the
process,
so
that
at
these
meetings
in
May
and
June,
there'll
be
at
a
place
where
we
just
need
all
Council
involved
to
work
through
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
working
on
kind
of
already.
C
So
this
is
sort
of
a
working
session
meeting
and
then
the
community
of
the
whole
will
be
all
right.
We're
ready
to
have
everybody
involved
in
this
discussion
and
we'll
do
more
being
getting
feedback
guidance
on
stuff
that
we'll
be
kind
of
working
on
along
the
way
in
in
this.
C
So
that's
not
clear
from
and
again
we'll
be
doing,
upgrades
on
this
attached
work
plan
every
month
and
there
might
be
a
reason
for
us
to
bring
pieces
of
what
we're
working
on
I
think
every
month,
I
mean
I'm
open
to
doing
things
earlier.
I
just
don't
know
how
fruitful
it
will
be
if
we're
sort
of
writing
on
these
things
together,
as
committee
will
grow,
more
convinced
timeline
and-
and
this
is
we're
open,
I'm
open
to
adding
other
topics
other
account,
you
know
that's
fine.
B
I
say
this
with
great
reluctance:
the
subcommittee
for
reimaging
Public
Safety
has
decided
to
have
a
public
forum.
Our
draft
Rewards.
B
C
F
How
quickly
does
the
job
is
like
actually
I
think
when
we
discussed
last
it
has
to
I
know
it
has
to
get
Civil
Service
at
the
exam,
but
the
banding
process,
whatever
that
is
approval
process?
F
How
quickly
do
we
go
from
like
finalizing
the
job,
scripture
and
salary
to
it
being
listed
and
then
like
reviewing
applications?
Well.
K
Literally,
once
common
Council,
it
goes
through
common
Council.
Typically
we'll
do
the
next
day.
If
we're,
you
know
we're
ready
and
we
can
post.
That
posting
would
definitely
be
a
six-week,
posting
and
yeah
just
getting
started.
You
know.
F
It
and
I
guess
just
a
follow-up
because
I
don't
know
what
is
the
typical
I
guess
comparing
it
to
like
the
nearest
proximate
thing
like
a
department
head
search,
that's
ample
time,
I!
Guess
the
question
right.
K
E
That's
one
second,
then,
as
long
as
everything
goes
smoothly
and
Shelley
has
indicated
in
the
past
that
we
can
remember,
the
selection
team
will
be
can
begin
renewing
applications.
E
While
it's
still
being
advertised,
so
we
don't
have
to
you,
know,
post
and
then
wait
until
the
end
of
the
posting
period.
In
order
to
begin
looking
at
reviewing
that
Corrections.
A
Yeah
I
guess
the
final
question:
I
I
have
to
your
point:
Robert
who's
been
sort
of
been
impaired,
politics,
scientists,
I
guess
even
ending
I
was
going
to
turn
around
for
applications
and
finding
city
managers
and
other
municipalities
that
have
that
have
adopted
those.
C
You
are
a
community
of
the
whole,
so
you
don't
need
to
wait
until
a
council
meeting
in
July
in
order
to
take
an
action,
because
you
will
be
a
function,
it
will
all
be
there,
so
you
can
build
things
out
of
that
and
being
fresh
and
when
things
have
to
wait
to
go
to
counsel
it's
because
you're
only
in
a
standing
company.
C
So
if
you're
looking
at
that,
as
oh
my
gosh,
we
can't
do
anything
for
the
one
until
July
and
that's
not
actually
how
this
was
and
I
know
that
we'll
probably
have
more
information.
Shelly
and
Laura
will
have
more
information
at
the
end
of
this
week.
We're
talking
to
someone
who
it
is,
has
around
these
kinds
of
searches
for
videos,
and
we
can
certainly
write
that
question.
C
I
won't
bring
that
question
to
this
person,
showing
them
where
everyone
will
ask
Friday
I
think
they
have
a
whole
laundry
list
of
questions.
We're
going
to
be
asking
those
questions
if
we
feel
like
it's
not
gonna,
be
a
good
time
frame.
Elizabeth.
C
C
K
Sorry,
just
I
just
have
to
correct
something.
Steve
always
refers
to
this
as
HR
math
I
gave
you
some
HR.
Math
is
what,
when
I
get
it
wrong,
you
had
asked
a
question
about
whether
we
were
Net,
Zero
or
net
or
so
forth,
we're
actually
in
a
positive
it's
a
small
Class
A
lot
of.
We
are
passing
three
so.
K
F
Next
meeting
date,
I
had
listed
here
as
to
be
announced
because
I
was
hoping
to
chat
with
Rob
Gearhart,
who
I
also
know
is
so
I
will
be
away
during
our
next
scheduled
meeting,
but
I
also
know.
Rob
is
away
for
the
next
schedule.
Pdc
meeting,
so
I
am
reaching
out
to
him
again
about
the
possibility
of.
Maybe
you
could
look
in
those
days
just
open
these
people,
unless
there
is
a
reason
that
time
sensitive
wise.
E
Handwriters
no
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
conversation
for
us
with
the
understanding
nature
I
believe
there
was
an
announcement
at
the
EDC
that
rub.
Your
heart
will
not
be
available
for
the
market
EDC,
but
that
they've
decided
on
someone
who
will
chair
right
on
that
date.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
information,
so
you
could
also
determine
someone
to
act
in
your
status.
Chair.
F
Oh
absolutely
yeah
I,
just
I
I
just
wanted
to
float
the
question
of.
Would
it
be
better
to
have
if,
if
that
date
could
accommodate
full
attendance
for
both
committees
but
I'm
happy
to
I?
Think
that
makes
sense
to
find
that
out
yeah
so
we'll
just
figure
that
out
via
email
over
the
next
few
days.
So
that
there's
an
example
time
to
a
price
check
of.
E
That,
before
the
next
council,
meeting,
yeah,
Indiana,
Council
or
or
other
staff's
info
on
what
works
best
for
them
and
and
also
to
make
sure
that
the
rest
of
your
committee
is
available
right.
Potentially
changing
foreign.
B
This
is
a
suggestion
about
additional
businesses
for
us
about
two
election
Cycles
ago,
Council
avoid
to
increase
the
stipends
for
the
County
Council
numbers,
and
it's
the
first
increase
in
about
10
years
and
at
that
time
it
was
in
your
mind.
My
recollection
is
correct.
B
At
that
time
he
was
talked
about
how
difficult
that
was
to
vote
on
and
that
a
better
system
might
be
to
tie
the
stipend
to
through
inflation,
because
when
we
did
raise
it,
we
raised
it
to
what
was
then
considered
the
minimum
wage
in
the
city
of
Ithaca.
B
F
D
Yeah,
you
would
still,
it
would
still
be
part
of
the
budget
process.
In
addition,
there's
also
some
legal
requirements
to
make
that
change,
so
we'd
have
to
go
through
that
whole
process,
but
yeah.
A
Department
no
I
think
you're
doing
that
that
woman
of
George
I
think
is
actually
the
poorest
number
of
common
Council.
There's
80
of
occupation
is
my
right.
This
is
a
question
that
I'd
like
to
see
explore
and
I
appreciate.
It
I
think
it
really
connects
to
looking
at
me
earlier
in
our
discussion
without
trying
to
make
common
Council
on
more
or
open
and
possible
belief
for
those
who
are
committed.
A
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea.
I
supported
that,
but
how
about
the
way
I
can.
E
A
K
A
quick
I,
don't
know
what
all
the
conversations
were
prior
to
this,
but
I
also
think
it
would
be
important
to
look
at
what
other
municipalities
do
and
when
you're
thinking
about
what
you
would
like
to
do
for
counsel,
please
keep
in
that
sort
of
scan
of
the
environment.
What
we
do
in
the
workforce
too,
for
Workforce
so.
K
B
To
whatever's
a
good
way,
so
some
people
on
Council
don't
need
the
second
and
they
in
the
past
voted
against
the
race,
because
it
seemed
politically
difficult
when
they're
asking
taxpayers
to
pay
more
for
their
taxes
and
that's
understandable
too.
But.
B
C
Wanted
to
remind
everyone
that
now
is
actually
a
real
good
time
to
start
usually
February
or
March
is
when
Steve
and
I
start
thinking
about
the
budget
process
will
look
like
very
soon
we're
going
to
need
in
soliciting
what
dates
are
all
the
budget
meetings
and
all
of
that
we
also
like
to
try
to
identify
any
special
topics
that
we
want
to
take
a
more
take
a
deeper
dive
into.
This
is
one
that
George's
run
we've.
Never
really.
We
always
try
to
address
it
in
the
middle
of
the
budget
and
kind
of
stuff.
C
It's
been
very
challenging
to
do
when
you're,
in
the
middle
of
everything
else,
I
think
it
makes
sense.
If
a
couple
of
you
from
this
committee,
you
wanted
to
work
on
some
proposals
or
some
ideas
or
some
suggestions.
I
can
certainly
help
with
that,
but
you
may
want
to
use.
Maybe
you
want
to
put
as
an
agenda
item
on
this
committee
for
next
month.
C
What
topics
do
you
want
for
these
special
meetings
or
Council
and
that'll
give
time,
especially
the
staff
needs
to
prepare
to
develop
some
materials
together
to
have
a
nice
you've
done
conversation
into
some
of
these
special
topics,
and
then
we
can
start
assigning
them
to
months
and
we'll
complete
the
full
schedule
for
the
budget
process.
So
maybe
that
makes
sense
to
focus
on
for
next
month's
agenda
and
just
get
a
lot
of
you
list
of
all
the
topics,
the
council
ones
and
start
scheduling
them
in
and
doing
the
work.