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I
guess
please
just
press
the
microphone
yeah.
Just
a
general
note.
If
you're
going
to
be
speaking,
please
press
the
button
on
your
microphone
and
speak
directly
into
it.
It
helps
with
the
sound
for
the
people
at
home.
B
Okay
to
start
the
meeting
I
am
to
read
the
emergency
evacuation
notice
in
case
of
an
emergency
evacuation.
We
are
to
take
one
of
the
two
exits
which
one
over
here
one
over
there
and
we
out
front
of
the
Queen
Street
garage
near
the
numbered
columns,
those
with
restricted
Mobility
in
the
event
of
an
emergency.
It
is
best
to
move
to
one
of
the
stairwells
and
the
first
responded
worldwide
to
Andrew
an
event
of
other
emergencies.
B
You
will
be
instructed
on
what
to
do
at
that
time
in
the
event
of
a
lockdown
active
killer,
those
restricted
mobility
and
if
you
know,
they're
in
place
behind
office,
Doors
by
the
home
of
pictures
and
First
Responders
will
arrived
to
Aid
here,
help
others
in
the
group,
but
only
if
you
can
do
so
safely.
We
want
everyone
to
be
aware
of
their
surroundings
and
offer
help
others
when
it
is
launching
your
own
detriment.
As
you
are
your
own
best
advocates.
B
Okay
notices
here
by
giving
us
that
14
student
municipate
section
228
public
hearings
may
be
held
by
the
ilpc
at
6
PM
Tuesday
October,
18
2022
in
common
council
chambers
at
108,
East,
Main,
Street,
Ithaca,
and
also
conducted
remotely
using
video
conferencing
technology.
Virtual
participation
in
public
meetings
is
authorized
by
Parts
ww
of
chapter
56
of
the
laws
of
2022
of
New
York
State
at
local
law.
2022-5,
more
information,
including
the
written
procedures
governing
the
use
of
video
conferencing
technology,
is
available
on
the
city's
next
slide.
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B
The
brawl
Hall
141
Central,
Avenue,
Cornell
Arts,
broad
historic
district
proposal
to
remove
guests
and
wrought
iron.
Trusting
202
East
4th
Street,
the
wind
Park
historic
district
proposal
to
replace
a
window
in
the
third
story
of
the
north
elevation
to
meet
egress
requirements
and
modify
a
fire
escape.
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C
D
E
It
says
the
host
is
disabled,
video.
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C
You
start
considering
the
application,
while
we
try
to
figure
out
the
issues
with
the
camera,
if
you
are
comfortable
with
moving
forward
without
being.
B
B
B
B
J
E
B
Could
you
go
ahead
and
start
presenting
your
argument
and
we'll
see
we'll
see
how
it
plays.
E
Foreign
sure
I
can
start.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
so
as
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
was
denied
at
the
site
visit,
we
are
applying
for
a
finding
of
economic
hardship
based
on
the
fact
that
any
investment
in
that
building
will
yield
no
Financial
benefit
whatsoever.
So
it's
just
it's
just
paying
money
to
keep
the
building
standing
up.
It's
not
a
rental,
it
can't
be
a
rental
and,
according
to
the
guidelines,
the
financials
are
about
the
building
as
a
standalone
item
to
be
considered.
E
So
there's
no
there's
really
no
payback
to
to
doing
anything
there
other
than
taking
it
down,
and
even
that
is
a
is
a
cost
of
some
amount.
K
Brian
before
we
we
consider
this,
could
you
lay
out
for
us
the
the
guidelines
for
a
financial
hardship,
I've
been
on
this
commission
10
years
do
longer
and
we
none
has
come
before
us
so
far.
I,
don't
believe
that
I
know
not
not
in.
C
Again,
my
apologies
for
the
technical
difficulties,
so
the
landmarks
ordinance
outlines
procedure
for
considering
an
economic
hardship
whereby
the
commission
can
take
into
consideration
the
cost
of
an
improvement
and
how
that
will
or
will
not
negatively
impact
the
financial
return
on
the
investment
in
the
property.
So
it
provides
a
list
of
a
list
of
materials
that
an
applicant
can
provide.
C
It
is
always
a
case-by-case
basis.
What
is
applicable
here,
the
cost
of
stabilizing
the
building
was
submitted,
along
with
the
cost
of
demolition,
an
analysis
of
what
that
those
two
Investments
would
mean
in
terms
of
a
return
on
their
investment
and,
and
so
that's
what
was
submitted
by
the
applicants.
And
it's
now,
the
commission's
job
to
one
determine
if
the
materials
that
were
submitted
are
sufficient
for
you
to
make
a
determination
about
this.
This
potential
economic
hardship
are
there
additional
information
is
needed
or
if
additional
information
is
provided.
C
If
the
difference
between
the
preferred
Improvement,
which
would
be
the
stabilization
of
the
building,
is,
does
create
an
economic
hardship
for
the
applicant
and
does
not
and
it
and
is
difficult
for
them
to
make
a
reasonable
return.
C
D
F
K
C
So
I
think,
what's
what's
important
to
consider
here
is
we're
looking
at
the
the
economic
viability
of
a
project
for
any
property
owner.
So
whether
you
know
the
rehab
of
this
structure,
would
you
know
present
the
same
financial
hardship
to
a
different
property
owner,
as
it
does
to
this
one
I
think
in
this
case
the
the
cost
of
Demolition
and
the
cost
of
stabilization
is
not
going
to
change
based
on
the
property
owner.
C
It's
still
something
that
needs
to
be
done
and
whether
there
is
I
mean
the
point
that
there's
still
not
a
use
for
the
building
after
stabilization
to
create
a
use
that
does
is
require
an
additional
investment
only
impacts
the
return
on
investment
more
or
you
know
in
this
case
the
the
negative
return
on
investment,
so
I
mean
we
could
certainly
ask
for
clarification
from
the
city
attorney,
but
I
I.
Think
as
a
commission,
we
don't
have
purview
overuse.
C
This
is
not
a
rental
property
so
asking
them
to
create.
You
know
a
revenue
stream
from
the
building
through
a
Rental
Source
seems
far
outside
of
what
we
can
request
all.
B
I
guess
one
question:
I
have
I
see
that
they're
concerning
Revelation
the
it's
going
to
be
approximately
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
for
demolition.
If
you
take
another
approach
and
you
go
for
stabilization,
just
to
stabilize
the
building
would
be
178
000,
and
then
you
mentioned
this
additional
150
000.
What
is
that,
and
what
would
you
have
when
we
put
in
that
additional
150
000.
E
G
We
have
had
several
projects
on
this
property
which
you
have
approved,
and
it
has
been
our
experience
with
these
projects
that
the
actual
cost
of
them
has
been
at
least
triple
and
in
some
cases
as
much
as
five
times
what
the
estimates
were
and
because
this
is
such
a
dangerous
situation,
and
so
much
of
this
work
has
to
be
done
by
hand.
G
It's
it's.
You
know.
We've
lived
here
for
17
years,
we've
done
a
lot
of
projects,
and
that
is
just
our
experience.
So
that's
an
empirical
estimate.
E
I
would
I
would
add
to
that
that
this
estimate
is
something
over
a
year
old
and
what
there's
been
a
lot
of
inflation
since
then,
as
we
all
know,
and
also,
as
we
had
mentioned,
one
of
our
previous
meetings,
the
the
contractors
the
contractor
provided
that
pulled
out
because
of
liability
concerns
and
suggested
we
go
to
The,
Specialist,
Group
and
I-
think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
as
soon
as
you
bring
in
Specialists,
that's
going
to
increase
the
cost.
E
K
K
Second
is
if,
if
this
first
of
all,
if
this
building
were
my
backyard
and
it
were
open
that
is
open
on
on
all
four
sides,
I
would
turn
it
into
housing.
I
wouldn't.
But
it's
not
it's
not
even
open
on
four
sides
and
I
think
if,
if
we
were
to
think
of
of
the
best
economic
use
for
this
building,
it's
still
no
good
I
mean
you
still
couldn't
make
housing
out
of
it,
but
it
still
would
not
be
approved.
K
And
so
I
have
to
think
that
that
given
given
the
the
unsuitability
to
to
convert
it
into
into
any
sort
of
obvious
economic
use,
which
you
don't
want
to
do
anyway,
because
it's
your
own
and
that's
that's
not
what
you
do
and
and
the
cost
even
of
stabilizing
the
building
I
think
it's
supporting.
J
I
think
the
numbers
are
are
reasonable,
that
they're
submitted
in
some
ways
whether
it's
328
or
428
000
still
a
lot
of
money,
no
rate
of
return.
A
I
reluctantly
have
to
agree
with
the
other
people
that
have
spoken
due
to
the
fact
that
it
is
in
a
dangerous
condition
currently
and
the
prices
so
high
to
repair.
It
seems
like
it.
It
would
just
it
would
stay
there
and
get
more
and
more
precarious,
so
I,
I,
I,
suppose
I
wouldn't
vote
to
approve
this.
B
Okay
and
I
would
also
have
to
agree
that,
because
of
the
expense
of
the
stabilization
and
the
fact
that,
in
the
end,
you
would
still
not
actually
have
a
particularly
usable
building
of
the
head
economic
value
and
I
would
also.
We
will
pay.
You
currently
feeling
great
about
it.
But
I've
stabilize
his.
K
Yeah
I
would
just
like
to
add
to
Ed's
comment.
I
also
feel
terrible
about
it.
I'm
it's
such
a
beautiful
building
and
a
special
building,
and
in
that
location,
there's
there's
you
know
in
that
area.
There's
nothing
else
like
it
and
it's
it's
it's
a
marvelous
thing,
but
I
I,
don't
see
if
you
put
200
000
inches
stabilizing
it.
It's
you
still
don't
have
a
building.
I
mean
there's
still
nothing
nothing
to
do
with
it.
J
I'm
thinking
ahead,
the
last
Community
I
believe
we
discussed
documentation
of
the
existing
building,
clear
documentation,
I
think
especially
the
brick
details
or
the
door
details
or
the
roof
Edge
details,
or
maybe
preserve
some
of
the
components
at
on
the
properties.
A
piece
of
the
Corn
issue,
or
something
like
that.
G
C
C
G
Is
actually
my
practice
with
everything
that
has
come
out
of
the
house?
I
have
a
place
where
there
are
pieces
of
the
moldings
and
the
cornices
and
the
supports
corbels
and
everything.
J
J
A
list
of
national
project
costs
for
both
demolition,
stabilization
of
the
carriage
environment
and
project
description
that
includes
calculation
of
Braintree,
return
on
the
Demolition
and
stabilization
scenarios
and
where's
the
obviously
considered
the
financial
information,
including
the
application
for
certificate
of
appropriate
state
of
August
29
2022,
which
was
submitted
for
review
to
Big
Ithaca
landmarks
preservation
commissioned
by
Property
Owners
Mr
copen
and
Mary
chapter
in
The
Following,
one
two
narratives,
respectively
titled.
The
description
of
proposed
change
is
and
reasons
for
changes
to
a
letter
to
David
landmarks
preservation.
J
and
where's.
The
applicant
has
provided
sufficient
documentation
and
information
to
evaluative
request,
refining
that
they
have
a
card
ship
on
grounds
that
do
not
denial
by
the
commission
will
prevent
the
owner
from
earning
a
reasonable
return
on
their
property,
where
the
public
hearing
to
consider
the
economic
parties.
That
appeal
was
held
by
the
ilpc
on
October
18
2022.
J
J
As
an
owner
occupied
single-family
home,
the
property
does
not
generate
income.
Therefore,
the
iopc
did
not
consider
the
expenses
of
the
overall
property
taxes,
Insurance
maintenance
management,
fee
utilities
which
offset
income
in
a
traditional
rate
of
return
calculation
for
an
income
producing
property.
The
rates
of
return
achieved
under
the
two
scenarios
calculated
have
been
interviewed
by
the
commission
showed
the
rate
of
return
of
negative
14
under
the
stabilization
scenario
is
not
a
reasonable
rate
of
return
when
compared
to
be
returned
to
zero
percent
under
the
demolition
alternative.
J
In
addition
to
the
financial
information
provided
in
the
request
for
refining
the
economic
heart
to
that
application,
the
commission
also
considered
the
following:
one:
decides
and
location
of
the
building
on
their
property
significantly
impacts
the
cost
and
Technical
feasibility
of
any
project.
Stabilization
or
demolition
to
the
stabilization
of
the
carriage
environment
is
not
qualified
for
any
preservation.
J
C
They're,
all
in
favorites
what
that's
the
approval
with
the
two
conditions,
one
in
the
building
is
Thoroughly
documented
into
Salvage.
Materials
are,
are
expected
in
the.
J
Okay
touring
any
sample
repairs
at
the
site
itself
is
fairly
preferable
to
across
town
somewhere.
Okay,.
C
B
Okay,
the
next
one
we're
join
you
tonight,
we're.
C
B
L
L
L
So
our
our
proposal
is
to
bring
down
the
decorative
fencing
Basin
rods.
L
We
have
a
bid
in
hand
to
perform
the
work
by
a
contractor
who's
ready
to
mobilize
really
as
soon
as
we
get
the
ilpc
approval
and
it's
Our
intention
to
as
I
mentioned,
store
the
materials
on
site
so
that
our
historic
preservation
architect,
that's
leading
the
full
restoration
project,
conserve
a
and
prepare
design
drawings
for
fabrication,
It's,
Our
intention
to
return
to
ilpc
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off
I
believe
it
was
November
2019
when
we
last
presented
the
McGraw
Hall
renovation
project
to
to
your
committee
or
Commission,
and
it's
Our
intention
to
return
once
the
project
is
approved.
L
It
was
put
on
hold
during
the
pandemic
once
it's
approved
to
restart
design.
Our
intention
is
to
come
back
to
ilpc
and
discuss
the
larger
full
project
with
you.
The
intention
of
this
evening's
presentation
is
to
again
gain
your
approval
to
remove
an
unsafe
condition
and
last
I'll
just
mention
that
the
cost
to
fabricate
all
new
iron
work
will
be
borne
out
by
the
full
project
and
we
believe
that
sequencing
the
construction
of
replacing
that
iron
work
in
concert
with
the
new
roof
that
needs
to
go
on
the
new
roof.
Hatch.
L
Lightning
protection
is
the
most
sensible
path
forward
foreign.
So
that's
that's
the
the
last
slide
in
the
presentation,
so
I
open
it
up
for
questions
and
discussion.
Thank
you.
L
J
L
Definitely
will
replace
the
Iron
Work
It
is
a
iconic
character
to
the
building
and
in
our
previous
work,
with
the
historic
preservation
firm
by
our
blender
Bell,
they
documented
that
replacement
or
restoration
at
the
time
they
were
unaware.
We
didn't
have
the
Consulting
engineer
performed
the
review
of
the
decorative
elements
at
the
time
that
they
did
their
drawings,
but
their
drawings
clearly
called
for
restoration
and
including
the
decorative
iron
work
in
the
completed
project.
So
that's
a
definite
foreign.
C
I
would
like
to
note
to
Steve's
point
that
I
included
a
draft
condition
of
the
approval
in
the
proposed
resolution
that
no
certificate
of
appropriateness
will
be
issued
for
the
full
renovation
of
McGraw
Hall
without
the
inclusion
of
the
restored
cresting.
And
if
the
applicant
chooses
to
remove
the
questing
permanently,
that
a
separate
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Application
for
that
needs
to
be
submitted.
K
L
The
the
the
more
you
look
closely
at
the
condition
of
the
Iron
Work,
the
more
you
discover
cracks
and
areas
where
rusting
has
deteriorated
the
condition
of
the
cast
iron.
L
If
it
does
turn
out
to
be
the
case
that
we
could
reuse
some
of
the
material.
Of
course,
we
would
explore
that
option.
C
There
were
no
members
of
the
public
that
signed
up
to
speak
this
evening
on
this
project
and
I
received
no
written
comments.
Okay,.
I
Concerning
the
property
and
the
proposal.
A
period
of
significance
for
the
area
now
known
as
the
Cornell
Arts
quad
is
identified
in
the
city
of
ithaca's
Cornell,
Arts,
quad,
historic
district
summaries,
significant
statement
as
1868-1919.
As
indicated
in
the
New
York
State
structure
inventory
for
McGraw
Hall
141
Central
Avenue
was
designed
in
the
Second
Empire
Style
by
syracuse-based,
architects,
architect,
Archimedes,
Russo
and
constructed
in
1869.
I
I
In
considering
architectural
and
cultural
value,
the
commission
must
consider
whether
the
proposed
change
is
consistent
with
start
value
and
the
spirit
of
the
architectural
style
of
the
landmark
or
District,
in
accordance
with
section
228-6
of
the
municipal
code.
In
making
this
determination,
the
commission
is
Guided
by
the
principal's
set
forth
in
section
228-6b
of
the
municipal
code,
AS
further
elaborated
in
section
228-6c
and
by
the
secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
Rehabilitation,
and
in
this
case,
specifically
the
following
principles
and
standards.
I
Principle
number
two:
the
historic
features
of
a
property
located
within
and
contributing
to
the
significance
of
an
historic
district
shall
be
often
as
little
as
possible
and
any
alteration
made
shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
history,
historic
character
of
the
individual
property
and
the
character
of
The
District
as
a
whole
standard
number,
two,
the
historic
character
of
a
property,
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
distinctive
materials
or
operation
of
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
a
property
will
be
avoided.
I
Standard
number,
six
deteriorated
historic
features
shall
be
repaired
rather
than
replaced
from
the
severity
of
deterioration
required
for
placement
of
a
distinctive
failure.
The
new
features
shall
match
the
old,
InDesign,
color,
texture
and
other
visual
qualities
and
where
possible,
materials
replacement
of
mission
features
shall
be
substantiated
by
documentary,
physical
or
pictorial
evidence
standard
number,
nine,
you
know
additions,
exterior
alterations
or
related.
New
construction
shall
not
distort
and
stored
materials
that
characterize
the
property.
I
The
new
word
shall
be
differentiated
from
the
old
and
shall
be
compatible
with
the
massing
size,
scale
and
Architectural
features
to
protect
the
historic
Integrity
of
the
property
and
its
environment.
With
respect
to
principle,
number
two
standard
number
two
and
standard
number:
nine:
the
removal
of
crusting
well.
C
I
I
Results
that,
based
on
the
findings
set
forth
above
the
proposal,
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
effect
on
the
aesthetic,
historical
or
architectural
significance
of
the
Cornell.
Arts
is
quad
art,
Squad,
historic
district,
as
that.
Fourth,
in
section
228-6
and
Via
further
resolved
at
the
glenmarks
preservation
commission
determines
that
the
proposal
meets
criteria
for
approval
under
section
228-6
of
the
municipal
code
and
be
it
for
the
resolved.
The
pilpc,
of
course,
the
certificate
for
the
application
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
the
following
conditions.
I
The
removed
Crossing
shall
be
clearly
enabled,
with
the
property
address,
original
location
and
data
removal
and
stored
in
a
clean
dry,
secure
location
for
future
restoration.
Recreation,
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
shall
be
issued
for
the
full
Rehabilitation
shall
not
be
issued
for
the
full
Rehabilitation
of
the
borough
Hill.
Unless
the
project
scope
includes
the
restoration
or
Recreation
of
the
pressing
or
a
separate
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Application
is
submitted
for
the
permanent
removal
of
this
disdainment
of
architectural
element.
I
B
J
B
C
B
B
B
J
Megan,
do
you
want
to
get
started?
Would
you
like
to
describe
the
Defenders
band
cards
sure.
F
I
can
yeah
I
can
tell
you
sort
of
what
we're
thinking
and
doing.
We
first
of
all
are
really
honored
to
be
in
the
historic
district.
It's
such
a
beautiful
area
and
the
location
that
we're
in.
We
currently
occupy
two
floors
for
our
office
space,
and
we
are
trying
to
actually
move
into
the
third
floor
because
we
are
doing
so
well,
which
is
wonderful
for
a
non-profit
in
the
area
and
expanding
our
staffs.
F
So
we've
already
outgrown
the
floor
and
a
half
that
we're
on
currently
and
we
are
applying
to
the
city
for
a
building
use
change,
because
we
currently
rent
several
apartments
on
the
third
floor
and
the
space
that
we
are
asking
for.
The
change
to
the
window
actually
used
to
be
a
rental
and
we
no
longer
rent
it.
So
it's
vacant
at
the
moment,
but
we
we
are
looking
to
bump
out
a
stairwell
that
already
exists
and
move
up
into
that
third
story
for
Office
Space.
A
J
So
they're
building
sort
of
it
was
actually
constructed
as
two
separate
loneliness,
two
separate
houses,
two
separate
properties
and
there's
sort
of
like
a
party
wall
running
across
and
there's
two
back-to-back
stairs.
Remember
one
reach
house
at
some
point.
In
the
past
they
were
combined
as
a
single
address
single
property
single
tax
map
number.
J
The
change
of
occupancy
under
New,
York,
State
resistant
building
code
requires
a
certain
Bank
directly
to
be
brought
out
the
code,
and
one
of
them
is
fire
escapes
and
fire
escape
act
as
one
of
those
maintain
their
grandfather
and
status.
J
So
that's
the
name
we
were.
We
were
hoping
that
the
building
department
would
allow
it
to
remain
better
and
we
were
hoping
that
sort
of
an
interior
access
from
one
staircase
to
the
other
on
the
second
and
a
half
or
would
suffices.
The
second
means
of
egress
from
the
third
floor
of
the
building
department
was
not
wasn't
willing
to
go
along
with
that,
so
we
have
to
bring
the
fire
escape
and
the
fire
escape
access
window
of
the
current
code.
J
F
J
For
the
three
windows
that
are
joined
together
with
one
continuous
head
casings,
with
very
very
ingenious,
elaborate
head
casing
and
a
sort
of
elaborate
under
sill
trim
and
a
one
piece
windowsill,
and
so
because
of
that
I
I
think
the
most
sensitive
way
to
handle.
This
is
to
actually
use
an
insert
replacement
window.
J
If
you
try
to
go
back
to
remove
the
window
all
the
way
down
to
the
rough
opening
with
all
the
window
frame
and
everything
my
concern
is
both
inside
and
outside,
there
would
be
possibility
for
significant
significant
damage
to
the
one
piece
set.
Casings
I
want
these
skills
and
so
I
think
it's
more
sensitive
to
the
existing
fabric.
To
use
an
insert
replacement,
I
was
even
hoping
to
avoid
cutting
out
The
Parting,
stop
and
the
Blind
and
the
the
interior
stop
and
the
pulleys
and
stuff.
J
But
it
turns
out
that
the
the
size
requirements
for
an
egress
window,
just
barely
barely
barely
barely,
might
make
it
so
I
had
to
go
back,
but
so
the
requirements
in
the
building
code
are
clear:
width,
clear
opening
width
of
20,
inches,
clear
opening,
height
of
24
inches
and
a
clear
opening
overall
area
of
5.7
square
feet,
and
they
said
that
it's
it's
the
two
windows
a
little
bit
smaller
than
the
center
won't
understand.
It's
very
close.
J
So
I
would
look
at
the
preservation
conference
a
few
weeks
ago
and
Rochester
Colonial
manufacturing
was
there
and
they
had
information
on
their
old
windows,
and
this
was
like
a
day
after
I
heard
we
had
an
environment
new
bridge
window
there
and
it's
apparently
that
would
be
a
really
nice
way
to
handle
it
because,
as
you
can
see
in
the
pulled
up
it's
actually
when
it's
closed,
it
looks
like
a
double
Hound
window.
The
upper
sash
is
in
a
further
exterior
plane
in
the
end,
of
course,
Ash.
J
It
looks
just
like
a
double
end
window,
but
as
you
can
see
how
it
opens
the
whole
thing
folds
up
to
the
seat,
it's
pulled
up
to
the
top.
So
since,
since
the
width
was
a
more
difficult
requirement,
I
thought
that'd
be
a
really
good
way
to
to
handle
this,
and
apparently
there's
like
50
of
these
at
the
Sherwood
in
in
skinny,
Atlas
and
and
we
all
have,
we
just
photographs-
can
do
pull
it
up.
J
It's
window
manufacturers
at
the
website
to
see
if
you
can
do
that,
but
it
turns
out
that
the
the
folded
up
window
it
really
extends
down
quite
a
bit
further
than
I
expected
from
the
head.
It
bends
down
like
10
inches,
and
because
of
that
it
could
not
make
the
5.7
square
foot
required.
Overall
area
is
about
5.2
square
feet
and
I
wanted
to
use
a
wood
version
of
that.
But
the
clad
version
alone
is
3,
800.12
lead
time,
and
the
wood
version
is
twice
that
and
18
weeks
of
the
time.
J
So
if
it
doesn't
doesn't
provide
the
required
area
in
the
price,
and
so
the
next
thing
I
looked
at
was
a
Martin
wood
basement
with
a
because
I
know,
people
on
the
commission,
like
real
wood
and
I've
done
it.
I
just
recently
got
the
information
back
on
that.
It's
those.
J
The
occasions
typically
used
to
get
these
requirements
when
it
doesn't
want
to
do
it
because
you
get
open
fully,
but
as
it
opens,
it
tends
to
come
in
a
little
bit
into
the
opening,
and
so
I
got
the
just
got
this.
In
yesterday,
the
Marvin
Wood
casement,
the
width
is,
is
short
by
like
1960
47
inch
and
the
net
clear
opening
is
the
short
by
about
0.3
square
feet.
J
I
have
the
guy
from
Builders
basketball
asking
Martin
if
there's
any
way
that
they
can
handle.
But
at
this
point
the
only
window
that
seems
to
really
make
it
that
I
have
found
is
a
Anderson
400
series
replacement
window,
the
main
reason
being
that
Anderson
has
two
options
for
their
operating
system:
a
split
arm
operator
and
a
straight
arm
operator.
J
With
a
split
arm
operator.
The
stash
comes
into
the
opening
more
and
with
the
straight
iron
operated
stays
over
here.
So
it
seems
to
just
make
the
list
requirements
by
half
an
inch.
This
makes
the
clear
opening
we're
reminded
by
one
tenth
of
a
square
foot,
and
the
height
is
all
right.
Also
so
I
think
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
submit
the
Anderson
window,
and
this
is
a
wood
window
with
vinyl
cladding.
J
Would
have
a
white
exterior
and
we
installed
in
a
sort
of
a
slide
in
replacement
Edge.
The
the
other
element
of
this
application
is
just
a
slight
widening
of
the
second
floor.
Fire
escape
Landing
I,
think
four
inches
and
said
after
speed
cutting
in
welding
and
fire
escape.
J
So
then
those
are
actually,
thankfully,
that
seems
to
be
all
we
could
have
to
do
on
the
outside.
To
get
this,
the
change
of
accuracy,
partial
change
of
accuracy,
approved.
I
J
M
J
M
S,
width
of
the
Landing
parallel
to
the
building
or
out
from
the
building
yeah.
J
M
J
J
J
A
C
B
C
Yes,
although
I
would
recommend
reading
the
description
of
the
project,
which
is
the
the
second
Warehouse.
Oh,
it's
the
fourth
where,
whereas
and
then
getting
down
to
the
result,
whereas.
K
The
the
proposed
project
involves
the
removal
of
an
easternmost
double-hung
window
in
the
third
floor
of
the
north
elevations
and
it's
replacement
with
a
window
unit
that
meets
minimum
egress
requirements.
The
project
also
involves
enlarging
an
existing
Second
Story
fire
escape
welding
on
the
North
elevation
resolved
that
the
ilpc
has
made
the
following
findings
of
kind
of
concerning
the
property
as
identified
in
the
city
of
Educational,
Park,
historic
district,
summary
statement.
The
period
of
significance
for
the
area
now
known
as
the
DeWitt
Park
historic
district
is
1820.
K
It's
1920.,
it
indicated
in
the
New
York
State
Building
structure
inventory
form
the
double
house
at
202,
East,
Court
Street
was
designed
in
the
free
classic
Queen
Anne
style
by
noted
local
architect,
Clinton
this
Vivian
and
constructed
between
1899
and
1903
constructed
within
the
period
of
significance
of
the
DeWitt
Park
historic
district
and
possessing
a
high
level
of
architectural
Integrity.
The
property
is
a
contributing
element
on
the
DeWitt
part
of
the
Stark
District
that
boilerplate,
but
we
have
not.
Oh
no.
We
have
read
standard
number.
K
Two
principle
number
two
standard
number:
two:
we
have
done
standard
number,
nine.
With
respect
to
principle.
Number
two
standard
number
two
and
standard
number:
nine,
the
replacement
of
the
window
and
enlargement
of
the
fire
escape
will
not
remove
distinctive
materials.
It
will
not
alter
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
the
property.
K
The
theater
go
landmarks
preservation
ignition
determines
that
the
proposal
meets
the
criteria
for
approval
under
Section
238
of
the
municipal
code
and
being
further
resolved
with
the
ilpc,
approves
the
application,
of
course,
certificate
of
reportedness
for
the
following
conditions.
Staff
shall
review
and
approve
the
selected
window
product.
The
remove
windows
sash
should
be
clearly
labeled
with
a
property
address,
original
location
and
data
removal
and
stored
in
a
clean
under
our
secure
location
at
the
property
for
future
potential.
J
C
Let's
leave
the
staff
staff
review
and
approval
of
the
selected
window
product
and
that
leaves
the
flexibility
to
address
Market
concerns.
B
M
I
happened
to
the
research
this
building
before
it
was,
could
people
with
the
land
trust
before
they
purchased
it
and
one
other
item
the
building
was
purchased
and
lived
in
by
the
architect,
John
wilgers
in
the
20s
and
thereafter
and
I
believe
since
he
took
out
a
building
permit
for
the
garage
during
his
occupancy
that
the
garage
admission
was
probably
well
gonna
lose.
D
B
B
M
Really
is
an
and
creative
and
successful
double
house
design,
as
opposed
to
side
by
side.
This
is
the
way
it
was
expressing
that
for
a
corner
site
and
lucky.
F
C
C
State
Street,
formerly
known
as
401
East
8th
Street,
is
a
project
that
is
returning
to
the
planning
board
this
month
for
a
a
request
to
add
a
seventh
story
to
the
approved
product.
C
C
C
It
is
my
understanding
that
the
applicants
believe
they
cannot
move
forward
with
the
construction
of
the
building
due
to
financial
reasons,
without
the
construction
of
the
seventh
story
on
the
western
half
of
the
proposed
building.
So
you
all
I
know
the
drawings
were
circulated
or
an
electronic
electronic
copy
of
the
drawings
were
circulated,
but
I.
K
C
And
that
that
portion
of
the
building
will
remain
at
six
stories,
so
it's
only
the
Western
half,
that
is
being
the
seventh
story.
Added
to
you,
everything
the
historic
district
ends
and
then
the
steep
slope
starts
everything
east
of
that
will
remain
six
stories
and
everything
west
of
that
will
go
up
to
seven.
A
C
It
would
have
required
a
variance
that
they
didn't
think
they
would
be
successful
in
receiving
so
they
removed
the
seventh
story
to
create
a
building
that
falls
within
zoning.
J
J
C
C
C
C
C
J
C
So
this
is
the
end
of
the
historic
district.
This
is
the
parcel
line
that
denotes
where
that
it
sort
of
District
ends
this
portion
of
the
building
that
I'm
certainly
here,
will.
J
C
Must
have
been
used,
State,
Street
Post,
on
the
North
View.
This
is
the.
What
is
what
Steve
is
calling
you
may
call
it
open
over.
K
All
right
I
want
to
know
why
they're
they're
increasing
the
height
there
and
not
on
the
on
the
east
side,
where
it's
not
going
to
be
so
visible.
I
mean
that's
that
it's
already
really
messing
with
that
view
shed
both
from
East
Hill
and
South
Hill,
and
it
would
be
so
preferable,
I
think,
to
to
have
the
additional
story
tucked
in
where
it's
not
going
to
be
so
visible.
C
C
D
C
A
C
You
know
the
both
the
planning
board
and
the
bza.
Do
you
take
your
comments
seriously
when
reviewing
the
project
and
this
and
this
building's
close
proximity
to
the
East
Hill
historic
district?
You
know
there
there
is
going
to
be
some
weight
here
in
the
future.
B
K
I
I
would,
first
of
all
I'm
I
have
been
concerned
enough
that
what
six
stories
are
going
to
do
to
the
view
shed
both
from
East
Hill.
You
know
that
is,
that
is
a
precious
Vista
across
Six
Mile
Creek,
both
from
East
State
and
from
South
Hill.
The
the
one
of
the
few.
K
Individual
resonances
on
the
on
the
national
register
that
I
know
of
is
107
Giles,
and
this
is
this
is
just
directly
across
from
them,
essentially
destroying
destroying
the
view
from
that
property.
And
so,
as
I
say,
I
mean
I
was
concerned
enough
about
six
stories
there
and
I'm
more
concerned
and
more
disheartened
by
seven
okay.
C
I
C
K
At
least
there
I
mean
I
would
want
to
know
what,
if,
if
they
were
to
to
put
it
on
the
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
what
what
that,
how
that
would
affect
the
the
properties,
the
actual
historic
properties,
so.
J
D
A
Yeah
yeah
the
view
Across
The
Gorge
there
is
beautiful,
but
from
State
Street
and
retain
that
view,
but
it
would
be
nice
still
to
have
it
be
more
in
line
with
the
height
of
the
structures
going
on
a
state
stream,
which
you
know
even
with
six
stories,
looks
like
he's
beginning
to
be
a
larger
massive
size.
Even
from
the
height
you
know,
larger
height
from
the
rather
than
the
other
buildings
on
the
State
Street
are
going
up.
The
hill.
J
A
J
J
K
K
K
A
C
So
if
it
summarize
what
I've
heard
it
sounds
like,
the
commission
still
feels
our
comments
from
2021,
irrelevant
and
I
will
resubmit
them
to
the
planning
board.
With
the
additional
comments
that
the
commission
does
not
support
the
application
to
add
a
set
of
story
to
the
building
or
the
approved
building,
and
that
you
may
be
supportive
of
having
a
seven
story
to
the
smaller
portion
of
behind
the
story.
District
put
additional
information
if
needed.
I
C
Know
that
they
were
required
to
submit
a
transfer
Transportation
demand
management
plan
as
part
of
the
site
of
medical
process.
I
don't
have
information
on
that,
but
I
know
it
is
something.
B
C
Will
be
considered,
especially
with
the
resubmission
of
this
application
for
a
second
story.
There.
B
J
Yeah
there's
so
concerning
I,
don't
know,
60
something
Stuart
Ave
and
the
third
chapter
in
case
behind
that
resignation,
the
minute
said:
Steve
gibeon,
didn't
didn't,
think
it
didn't
know
or
didn't
think
about
it.
The
size
requirements,
the
city
and
that's
exactly
that's
what
I
said:
okay
Steve,
what
do
you
think
and
I
said
yeah?
Well,
they
meet
this
nine
by
18
size
requirements
instead
of
hurricane.
The
space
needs,
as
I
said
in
the
minutes.
C
B
A
B
C
Just
a
brief
update,
it
was
unanimously
approved
by
Common
Council
on
October
5th,
and
the
nomination
that
was
drafted
by
Jeff
iovone
was
submitted
for
the
state
for
inclusion
in
their
cultural
resources
within
towards
the
system.
So
people
will
be
when
they
search
for
this
property.
They'll
be
able
to
find
the
excellent
nomination
to
be
prepared
all
right.
K
I
just
want
to
add
apropogus
that
I'm
I'm
teaching
a
course
that
I
see
called
life
death
and
after
light
in
the
fictional
house
and
included
in
in
that
course,
is
Allison
bechdel's
fun
home,
which
is
you
know,
a
legendary
graphic
Memoir
and
at
the
end
of
fun
home
in
the
acknowledgments.
At
the
very
end,
she
thanks
Nancy
bariano
for
encouraging
her
to
tell
her
story.
D
C
C
Yes,
so
I
received
a
request
from
the
property
owner
of
313
Stewart
Avenue
today
to
paint
a
mural
on
the
concrete
retaining
wall
in
front
of
his
property.
So
this
retaining
wall
has
been
there
for
a
number
of
years.
It
was
replaced
and
has
always
been
a
non-contributing
element
of
the
East
Hill
historic
district.
C
It
was
installed
in
the
50s,
replaced
in
2021
and
has
become
the
target
of
graffiti,
so
the
property
owners
solution-
and
it
has
worked
for
city-owned
resources-
is
to
paint
a
mural
on
the
retaining
wall,
one
to
cover
up
the
graffiti
and
two
to
discourage
future
tagging.
C
So
our
landmarks
ordinance
requires
review
of
the
painting
of
previously
unpainted
masonry
surfaces,
but
it
talks
about
historic
masonry
surfaces,
brick
houses,
brick,
chimneys,
Foundation,
there's
no
reference
to
to
non-historic
amazing
restructures
like
this,
so
my
question
or
request
is
to
allow
staff
to
approve
painting
a
mural
on
this
because
I
mean
there's,
there's
no
guidance
in
the
design
guidelines.
Nor
is
there
any
information
in
the
landmarks
ordinance
related
to
it,
and
it
is
not
a
historic
element
of
the
district
on.
C
So
it
would
be,
there
would
would
be
some
consideration
of
content,
so
it
can't
be
an
advertisement
for
the
property
or
if
it
was
an
advertisement
for
the
property
it
has
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
sign,
ordinance
and
the
property
owner
has
been
in
contact
with
the
zoning
administrator
to
discuss
that
part
of
the
project
and
talking
with
the
applicant
or
the
property
owner.
He
wants
to
do
essentially
the
Cornell
Skyline
on
the
so
looking
at
the
content
and
making
sure
that
it's
not
offensive
or
or
commercial.
B
B
C
C
A
C
The
reason
why
this
was
added
at
the
last
minute
is
the
property
owner
is
having
another
mural
painted
on
one
of
the
properties
elsewhere
in
the
city.
That
has
a
similar
problem,
she's
an
out
of
town
artist,
and
she
has
the
time
to
do
the
mural.
B
B
C
K
It's
a
non-contributing
we're
all,
although
it
is
you
know
very
squarely,
and
that
is.
C
C
K
Miss
Cleveland
I
would
like
to
know
what
she
had
to
say
about
the
the
corresponding.