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A
B
B
B
With
the
the
recent
controversy
over
the
the
home
on
south
albany
street,
wondering
if
I
was
wondering
if
we
might
get
someone
who
wants
to
talk
about
that,
but
maybe
we'll
see
some
here's
some
comments
at
the
the
agency
board
meeting
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
D
Yes,
I
think
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
public
information
yet,
but
I
do
believe
the
parties
have
reached
an.
E
Yeah
I
haven't
been
on
this
committee
until
just
now,
but
I
have
read
about
it.
So
that
sounds
good
sounds
positive.
D
B
Okay,
so
the
first
order
of
business
or
third
order
business
is
recognized.
Review
of
our
meeting
minutes
from
last
month.
C
D
B
We're
going
to
do
introductions
right
after
this
tracy,
okay!
D
One
thing
that
I
noticed
this
this
morning
is:
I
need
to
change
the
date
to
the
to
the
july
meeting
date.
That's
in
error
on
on
the
draft
minutes.
B
Is
at
let's
see
I
just
want
to
get
right.
Where
are
we
here
here
we
go
yeah
on
page
two.
Actually,
the
first
right
under.
B
Yeah,
the
vice
chair,
called
the
meeting
to
order
at
8
34..
Is
that
correct?
Was
that
late
to
the
meeting.
D
Okay:
okay,
yeah.
I
see
that
there's
a
contradiction
there
yeah.
I
will
double
check
my
notes,
but
I
think
you
know
your
travel
schedule,
so
I
will
I
will
double
check
with
fernando,
but
change
that
do
you
have
it?
Do
you
usually
know
the
time,
carl
that
you
start
the
meeting?
Do
you
have
a
different
time.
B
D
B
D
So
this
was
the
so
I
also
need
to
change
this
on
the
minutes.
I
have
virtual
meeting,
but
it
was
an
in-person
meeting
that
was
the
one
that
we
did
at
city
hall.
That
was,
let
me
check
my
notes
on
all
this.
Oh.
D
C
B
But
in
june
yeah
I
definitely
was
not,
but
but
it
does
indicate
that
I
made
one
of
the
motions:
okay
yeah
in
the
minute.
So
let's
yeah,
let's
table
all
right
the
approval
of
the
june
minutes
and
until
we
double
check
some
things.
D
And
just
as
a
reminder
that
was
an
incorrect,
it's
the
july
minutes
that
we're
looking
at
I
needed
to
change
the
heading.
But
yes,
we'll
table
the
july
minutes.
E
B
B
B
All
right
well
welcome
to
the
neighborhood
investment
committee.
Cheyenne
was
interviewed
and
appointed
last
month,
so
shane.
If
you
would
say
a
few
words
about
yourself
and
then
we'll
go
around
and
make
introductions.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
I'm
happy
to
be
joining
this
committee.
I
work
up
at
ithaca
college,
I'm
in
the
economics
department
and
I
in
in
my
work
I
work
on
on
areas
related
to
most
recently.
I've
been
working
on
areas
related
to.
E
Poverty
alleviation
and
child
care,
the
care
economy
in
general
for
women
and
families,
some
specialty
in
asia,
and
so
I've
long
been
like
a
feminist
anti-racist
economist
working
on
sort
of
the
borders
of
the
discipline
of
economics.
E
I
I'm
just
getting
off
being
a
board
member
for
six
years
at
downtown
ithaca
children's
center,
which
I
know
makes
applications
to
this
committee.
So
I
will
recuse
myself,
but
I
do
have
experience
in
that
area
and
I
have
been
involved
also
with
the
advocacy
center
and
the
alternatives.
Credit
union
and
I'm
just
excited
to
keep
working
mo
to
work
on
items
related
to
city
and
neighborhoods.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you.
So
it's
a
great
relevant
experience
and
we
will
double
check
with
with
staff
I'll
ask
anissa
to
run
this
by
nails.
But
I
think
because
you
are
no
longer
on
the
dscc's
board,
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
refuse
yourself
from
any
votes
on
say
they
apply
in
this
upcoming
this
next
rather
funding
round.
But
personally,
I
always
err
on
the
side
of
caution
and
do
mention.
B
You
know
past
involvement
with
groups,
but
I
think
that's
generally
been
what
we
asked
that
if
you
are
directly
involved
with
an
agency-
or
you
say
you
have
a
family
member
who's
who's
part
of
an
agency,
you
do
disclose.
You
do
recuse
yourself,
but
if
you
know
a
form
or
involvement,
you
you
just
just
noted
say
if
you
have
children
who
were
attendees
at
the
icc,
you
might
want
to.
You
reveal
that,
but
I
don't
think
you
would
have
to
recuse
yourself,
but
again,
if
anisa
could
double
check
that.
B
I
think
I'm
pretty
accurate
about
that
great
morning,
fernando
tracy,
would
you
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself
and
say
a
few
words
about
you.
C
My
name
is
tracy
farrell.
I
have
been
involved
with
the
iura
for
many
many
years
now.
I
was
former
member
of
common
council,
which
is
how
I
know
I
was
involved
with
iura.
Before
that
I
live
downtown.
I
really
value
living
in
the
city
and
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
that
I
I'm
retired.
I
worked
at
cornell.
C
F
I'm
steve
williams
and
I
live
on
west
hill
and
up
until
you
joined
the
committee,
I
was
the
newest
person.
So
I'm
glad
that
you're
here
my
background
is
and
working
as
a
code
official
for
the
town
of
ithaca.
So
I
worked
there
for
15
years
and
now
I'm
retired.
So
I
don't
really
do
a
whole
lot
so
pleasure
to
meet
you.
A
Hi,
I'm
fernando
de
aragon,
I
direct
the
I
think
of
tompkins
county
transportation,
council
and
a
member
of
a
few
boards
in
town
and
been
in
town
for
about
25
years.
A
D
I'm
anissa
mentizable,
I'm
the
community
development
planner.
I
staff
this
committee,
I've
been
with
ira
for
about
five
years
now
I
have
a
degree
in
planning
from
cornell
and
most
of
my
professional
experience
has
to
do
with
working
in
the
nonprofit
sector,
with
various
vulnerable
groups.
B
D
A
B
Mayor
byron,
what
is
echo
what
tracy
said?
Welcome
shane
your
expertise,
really,
I
think,
will
will
fit
right
in
with
with
the
the
topics
that
we
tend
to
cover
on
this
committee.
I,
for
the
other
folks
benefits
I,
when
I
was,
I
retired,
from
alternatives,
federal
credit
union
february
of
2021
and
probably
20
years
ago
or
so
cheyenne,
and
I
run
one
of
the
credit
unions
committees
together.
B
So
I'd
like
to
welcome,
welcome
you
here
to
this
committee,
we
tend
to
right.
B
I
don't
I
wouldn't
say
that
we
are
strictly
operate
under
consensus,
but
we
do
tend
to
leave
lots
of
room
for
members
to
express
their
opinions
and
really
strive
to
be
in
agreement,
and
I
I
will
say
that
in
all
the
time
I've
been
on,
you
know
with
the
committee,
I
don't
think
we've
had
any
really
substantial
disagreements,
certainly
never
any
ugly
disagreements,
but
we
do
tend
to
try
to
work
together
and
hear
everyone's
opinion
and
we're
fortunate
that
we
have
always
had
great
staff
and
anissa
stepped
in
with
right
in
when
she
she
joined
the
committee
and
really
has
has
been
invaluable
to
the
way
we
operate.
B
You
know
we
really
depend
on
staff
and
the
agency
as
a
whole
has
great
great
staff
members.
I
think
I
can
confidently
say
that
for
everyone
here,
you
know
we
really
appreciate
the
staff
that
we
have
and
really
depend
on
them,
because
the
rules
in
working,
as
I'm
sure
you
know
with
government
funding,
can
be
very
complex,
and
so,
as
volunteers.
B
You
know
we
readily
admit
we
don't
understand,
necessarily
everything
that
that's
asked
of
us
by
by
hud
by
any
other
federal
agency,
so
staff
is
is
essential
to
how
we
perform
our
jobs
and
also
to
interfacing
with
the
community
with
the
work
we
do
and
as
you'll
see
in
the
upcoming
months
as
we
get
ready
for
the
the
next
funding
round
of
hud
the
hud
grants.
B
But
I
don't
think
you'll
have
any
issues.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
to
learn
and
it
all.
It
seems
to
me
that
I'm
always
learning,
even
though
we
may
be
doing
the
same
things
on
an
annual
basis,
but
thanks
to
anissa
and
nels
and
charles
you
know
we
are
able
to
to
do
our
jobs
and
I
think
we
do
our
jobs
effectively
and
everyone
on
the
committee
is
really
committed
to
this
community
and
a
lot
of
agencies
depend
on
the
funding
from
us.
B
And
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned
to
you
at
the
when
we
did
the
interview
was
that
you
know
kind
of
annually.
We
we
discuss
our
meeting
date
and
time
and
see
if
that
continues
to
work
for
everyone
on
the
committee.
I
don't
think
necessarily.
We
want
to
do
that.
B
Add
that
to
today's
agenda,
but-
and
I
asked
this
of
everyone
else
to
to
think
about
that-
and
you
know
ensure
that
this,
the
second
friday
of
the
month
at
8
30
a.m,
works
for
you,
you
know,
8
30
for
us
who
are
retired,
may
be
a
little
bit
early.
B
A
B
Pull
up
my
agenda
here
and
go
back
to
our
next
item
all
right,
so
we
have
some
discussion
about
the
home
american
rescue
plan.
Funding
planning
for
it
and
anissa
is
going
to
take
us
through
this,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
if
you
could
give
a
little
bit
of
background
about
the
the
arp
funding.
D
Yes,
so
let
me
put
the
draft
on
the
screen
and
I'd
like
to
let
everybody
know
that
this
this
document
is
really
meant
to
summarize
and
provide
essential
information
and
you're.
My
first
run
through
we'll
be
doing
this
with
the
ira
board
too.
So
if
there
are
areas
that
you'd
like
to
see
further
clarification,
please
feel
free
to,
let
me
know
now
and
or
after
the
meeting.
D
So
the
american
rescue
plan
includes
several
different
types
of
funding.
The
city
is
getting
an
allocation
or
has
received
an
allocation
of
about
14
million
dollars
in
american
rescue
plan
funding
that
is
separate
from
this
home
art
funding.
The
county
has
received,
I
think,
about
17
000
and
they've
just
reopened
their
process
for
applying.
For
that,
for
community
groups
did,
I
say,
17
million
17
million,
yes,
quite
a
difference
there.
D
So
this
funding
home
arp
comes
to
entitlement
communities,
communities
that
have
the
home
entitlement
program
and
as
a
reminder
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
the
two
entitlement
programs
that
we
have
are
the
community
development
block
grant
and
home
which
homes
acronym
is
a
home
investment
partnerships
program.
So
it's
not
a
good
acronym.
We
just
call
it
home
home
is
generally
in
all
other
cases,
except
for
home.
Arp
is
really
oriented
to
establishing
affordable
housing
in
communities
for
purchase
or
for
rental,
so
it
has
pretty
much.
D
It
has
a
very
limited
scope.
Normally,
this
funding
that
we're
going
to
review
is
new
is
a.
D
Is
it
never
been
tried
kind
of
approach
to
using
home
funds
in
the
community,
so
there
are
completely
different
rules.
I
shouldn't
say
completely
different:
there
are
different
rules
for
this
funding
than
there
is
for
regular
home
funding,
so
home
arp
funding.
D
This
is
one-time
funding
that
our
community
will
get
in
all
communities
that
receive
home
arp
or
get
just
getting
at
one
time
our
allocation
is
1.2
million
and
because
home,
when
hud
created
this
program,
they
really
wanted
it
to
target
people
who
are
homeless
and
who
are
housing
unstable
now.
Normally
the
home
program
does
not
target
homeless
people,
except
for
in
the
creation
of
new
units.
It
doesn't
fund
any
supportive
services
for
homeless
people.
It
does
not
fund
sheltering
type
facilities.
D
This
funding
can
in
very
prescribed
ways
which
I'll
get
into
in
just
a
moment,
but
for
for
those
that
know
about
other
hud
programs,
this
program
is
kind
of
a
combination
of
home,
the
home
program
and
a
program.
That's
called
the
emergency
solutions.
Grant
the
emergency
solutions
grant
is
normally
focused
on
homeless
populations
and,
as
I've
just
said,
the
home
program
is
normally
focused
on
creation
of
units,
whether
rental
or
affordable
housing.
So
they
tried
to
bring
the
two
together
to
in
hud's
words.
D
They
really
want
to
affect
change
for
homeless
and
at-risk
people.
D
So
there's
there's
a
learning
curve
associated
with
this
program
that
we
in
all
communities
have
been
going
through,
and
if
I
can
take
any
questions
about
what
I
just
said
now
or
I
can
just
go
ahead
and
go
on
with
who
is
qualified,
how
we
can
be
compliant
with
this
program.
D
B
D
B
Do
have
a
question
yes,
so
the
emergency
solutions
grant
have
we
applied
for
that
in
the
past
and
will
we
with
the
the
proposal
for
the
sanctioned
encampment
that
that's
the
city
is
going
to
put
forward?
Would
that
be
funded
under
the
emergency
solutions?
Grant.
D
The
emergency
solutions
grant
as
far
as
we
haven't
applied
so
since
we
don't
get
it
via
entitlement,
we
would
need
to
apply
through
the
competitive
process,
and
we
have
never
done
that
during
my
time
here
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
history
of
that
is.
I
believe
the
coc
receives
emergency
solutions
funding
and
I
can
double
check
that
with
liddy
the
sanctioned
encampments.
D
I
have
not
heard
that
we
ira
would
be
applying
for
funding
such
as
that,
but
the
coc
potentially
could
perhaps
that
would
be
an
avenue
that
they
would
take.
So
that's
what
I
know
about
that.
Okay,.
B
Thanks
tracy
and
then
cheyenne.
D
Okay,
oh
well,
it's
through
the
same
kind
of
process
that
we
normally
follow,
which
is
confusing
it
is
the
city.
Is
the
entitlement
community,
the
participating
jurisdiction
right
and
the
city
designates
iura
as
the
agency
that
will
administer
the
funding.
So
in
terms
of,
but
in
terms
of
your
question,
I
think
we
you
would
see
us
administering
it
and
implementing
you
know
kind
of
the
plan
in
the
same
way
that
we
do
with
the
annual
action
plan.
C
So
so
to
follow
up
on
that,
then
we
expect
that
agencies,
or
whatever,
would
be
applying
for
money
as
they
do
in
the
normal
grant
cycle.
Correct.
D
B
D
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
It's
an
addition!
So
this
this
year
in
2020,
two,
we
have
330
000
in
funding.
That's
coming
our
way!
This
funding
actually
follows
a
different
timeline
as
well,
so
we
have
until
2030
to
expend
all
the
funds
and
it's
kind
of
separate
and
on
top
of
any
other
home
funding
that
we
get.
A
D
Yes
and
I'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more
but
the
unlike
the
annual
action
planning
process,
which
this
committee
is
intimately
familiar
with
the
planning
process
for
home
irp
is
not
very
prescriptive.
It
does
not.
D
How
should
I
say
this
from
the
administrative
or
backend
side
of
things,
which
I
know
that
this
committee
doesn't
really
see,
but
it's
really
considered
an
amendment
we'll
be
attaching
it
in
idis,
which
is
our
information
disbursement
system
with
hud
the
hud
database.
As
an
amendment
to
our
2121
plan,
everybody
who
receives
this
funding
does
that
so
it
doesn't
have.
How
should
I
say
this,
I
think,
because
it's
a
new
program
and
because
are
a
variety
of
ways
that
are
different,
that
we
could
use
it
from
the
home
funding.
D
It
seems
like
from
what
I've
been
able
to
understand
from
my
conversations
with
our
hud
rep
and
the
webinars
that
hud
has
provided.
The
sense
that
I
get
is
that
the
this
plan
is
more.
It
feels
more
like
a
framework
or
an
outline
than
a
really
substantial
plan
like
what
you
see
with
the
home
annual
action
plan,
and
this
is
actually
something
that
I've
asked
our
hud
rep
about.
D
I
asked
her
if
she
could
direct
me
to
any
communities
in
our
region
that
have
produced
a
particularly
good
plan
so
that
I
could
review
it
understand
kind
of
how
they
went
about
doing
it,
and
it
doesn't
seem
that
our
region
or
she
hasn't
directed
me
the
one.
D
So
I
think
communities
are
just
getting
started
and
doing
this
I
know
I'm
giving
a
little
more
detail
than
you
wanted,
but
just
to
let
you
know
when
we
submitted
our
action
plan,
she
asked
us
where
we
were
in
our
planning
process
and
I
described
the
steps
that
we've
already
taken,
such
as
you
know,
commissioning
the
lisa
horn
report.
I've
already
done
several
consultations
in
the
community.
D
You
know
they
have
a
planned
checklist
and
some
common
issues
with
arp
funding.
But
I
haven't
identified
that
template
yet
and
when
I
do
I'd
be
happy
to
send
that
along.
A
A
I
would
say
we
as
much
as
we
can
we
piggyback
on
existing
plants
and
we
move
forward
because
you
know
we
can
spin
our
wheels
creating
plans
and
next
thing
you
know
five
years
have
gone
by
and
the
money's
not
spent
so
anyways.
D
C
That's
what
fits
into
the
plan
right
so
so,
if
we
have
information
that
we
can
just
quickly
put
together,
as
fernando
was
saying
about
this,
maybe
that's
all
we
need
for
the
plan
correct.
D
Well,
I
will
say
that
I
mean
how
should
I
say
this
that
sounds
sensible
when
I've
attended
the
home
arp
webinars,
they
place
a
great
emphasis
on
these
qualifying
populations.
They
are
a
lot
different
than
homes,
usual
populations.
D
They
very
much
emphasize
the
need
to
do
expansive
consultation
beyond
what
we
normally
do
for
the
annual
action
plan
with
all
types
of
community
organizations
that
might
come
in
contact
with
any
of
these
qualifying
populations.
Now,
I
think,
that's
fairly
straightforward
for
homeless
individuals
and
families.
D
I
think
it's
fairly
straightforward
for
persons
that
I'm
sorry
persons
fleeing
domestic
violence
dating
violence,
sexual
assault,
stalking
and
human
trafficking
by
human
trafficking.
They
mean
not
just
sexual
trafficking
but
also
labor
trafficking,
and
this
so
but
the
second
and
fourth
ones
you
know
are.
D
I
think
that
we're
going
to
need
to
look
outside
of
we're
very
fortunate
in
this
community
and
that
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
great
communication
between
the
service
providers
for
different
populations,
but
at
risk
for
homelessness.
Is
I'm
sorry.
Let
me
back
up
we've
sort
of
you
you're,
asking
wonderful
questions
that
I
I
have
intended
to
kind
of
answer
later
on,
but
the
qualifying
populations.
This
is
important
because
this
program
is
taking
a
very
expansive
understanding
of
homelessness
beyond
just
hud
definitions,
so
they've
included
in
the
statute.
D
Other
definitions
of
homelessness
that
other
federal
agencies
use
that
we
don't
normally
use
that
might
have
to
do
with
couchsurfing
and
things
like
that,
all
very
important.
It's
just
that
hud's
definitions
and
all
the
different
federal
agencies.
They
don't
all
use
the
same
definitions
for
homelessness.
D
So
I
think
the
easiest
way
for
me
to
have
understood
the
qualifying
populations
for
this
program
is
to
think
of
it
on
a
spectrum
of
everybody
from
who
is
literally
homeless.
In
the
hud's
view,
and
probably
in
the
public
view,
people
who
are
sleeping
outside
sleeping
in
places
not
meant
for
human
habitation.
D
You
know
across
a
spectrum
that
includes
couchsurfing,
that
includes
people,
as
we've
already
said,
who
are
in
domestic
violence
situations,
people
who
are
in
under
imminent
threat
of
eviction
and
don't
have
a
place
identified
to
stay
within
the
next
20
days.
D
D
But
we
home
arp
is
different
in
that
they
really
want
us
to
explore
and
look
at
what
the
gaps
of
numbers
of
units
available
for
people
who
are
making
30
percent
of
area
median
income
and
less
and
people
who
are
severely
housing,
cost
burdened,
which
means
that
they
pay
50
or
more
of
their
annual
income
for
rent
people
who
are
doubled
up
with
family
members.
Now
those
folks
are
not
generally
thought
of.
D
As
being
you
know,
qualifying
for
any
programs
that
homeless
people
qualify
for
this
program
is
saying:
look
at
all
the
folks
who
might,
because
of
their
housing
procurity,
eventually
become
homeless.
I
think
they're
really
trying
to
kind
of
address
it
at
both
ends
of
the
spectrum
and
that's
much
different
than
any
other
hope
program
that
we've
worked
with
so
far.
Does
that
answer
some
questions
is
that.
A
You
can
refer
to
this
as
a
program
but
home
erp
being
that
it's
a
one-time
funding
and
it's
a
million
dollars
or
so
that
we're
getting
it
it's
you
know
I
I
would
argue
it
cannot
be
seen
as
a
program.
It's
just
you
know
an
enhancement
again.
A
one-time
thing
that
may
allow,
I
think,
would
be
most
effective
to
work
within
existing
programs
and
services,
rather
than
seek
to
create
anything
new.
This
is
not
recurring
funding.
A
You
know
it's,
so
we
gotta
be
careful
not
to
start
something
that
then
we
can't
sustain
so
working
with
an
existing
structures.
I
think
it's.
What
makes
sense
here.
That's
why
I
don't
know.
A
D
A
D
Correct
and
my
apologize,
if
apologies,
if
I'm
using
the
wrong
terminology,
all
I
really
mean
to
say
is
that
there
are
specific
regulations
to
this
funding
that
are,
unlike
our
other
funding.
They
are
very
clear
that
we
need
to
consult
with
existing
structures
but
go
beyond
kind
of
the
consultations
that
we
normally
do,
they're
very
clear
that
we
need
to
do
quite
expansive
consultation.
D
The
webinar
that
I
was
reviewing
last
night
to
be
prepared
for
today
use
the
term.
Don't
expect
to
do
this
from
your
desk
and
I
think
what
they
want.
Is
they
want
numbers
from
service
providers?
They
would
like
us
to
try
to
create,
try
to
receive
as
much
data
as
possible
about
what
the
numbers
of
people
that
providers
to
of
services
to
each
of
these
for
qualification
and
qualifying
population
serve
annually
and,
if
possible,
the
demographic
breakdown.
D
I
will
say
that
I
was
just
at
a
meeting
yesterday
at
the
coc,
where
we
were
reviewing
applications
for
a
fund
that
they
have
and
a
lot
of
the
service
providers
that
applied
do
not
have
disaggregated
demographic
data.
So
that's
going
to
be
some
there's
going
to
be
some
difficulty
there
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
they,
I
think,
are
asking
us
to
gather
as
much
information
from
service
providers
that
may
touch
these
populations.
D
Part
of
that
is,
for
equity
reasons,
to
understand
kind
of
who's
already
getting
served
and
who
is
not
so
that's
the
best.
I
can
answer
that
question,
but
I
definitely,
I
think
I
understand
your
point
fernando,
which
is
to
try
to
as
expeditiously
as
possible,
get
the
funding
into
the
community
and
that's
going
to
be
important.
B
I
see
cheyenne
has
a
question,
but
before
shane
goes,
you
know
you
can
see
that
as
anissa
starts
to
go
down
to
the
various
components
of
this
program
and
the
the
planning
has
to
be
done.
So
if
you
have
a
question
that
falls
under
one
of
the
categories,
maybe
we
can
wait
until
anissa
is
able
to
brief
us
on
the
category
before
asking
the
question,
because
we've
gotten
kind
of
I
see
put
her
off
her
planned
briefing
to
us,
but
cheyenne
go
ahead.
D
What
it
means
is,
I
think,
I'm
understanding
your
question
correctly,
that
of
the
total
1.2
million.
We
can
only
use
15
to
administer
the
the
plan.
So
hopefully
my
math
is
right
there.
So
we
take
the
administrative
amount
from
the
1.2
million.
It's
not
on
top
of.
E
But
is
that,
like,
is
that
the
kind
of
thing
I'm
sorry
to
ask
this
question,
but
it's
like
that
feeds
like
the
salary
salaries
in
the
city
that
do
this
work
or
is
it
available
for,
for
example,
like
hiring
a
consultant
to
do
this
work
of
interviewing
various
offices
that
are
doing
this
work.
D
Okay,
so
down
here
under
the
eligible
activities
and
compliant
uses
we,
I
have
already
spent
ten
thousand
of
it
to
hire
lisa
horn
consulting
to
actually
so
I
apologize,
we
could
have
used
this
funding.
The
city
ended
up
spending
the
funding
I
believe
to
to
do
that
with
the
coc.
D
So,
yes,
we
can
use
funds
to
hire
consultants.
We
can
use
five
percent
and
sorry
I
was
going
to
get
to
this
a
little
later
on,
but
oh.
D
So
but
in
answer
to
your
question,
the
administrative
amount
is
used
for
staffing
the
con.
You
know
the
contracts
process,
monitoring
remember
this
is
a
program
that
will
go
on
for
for
10
until
2030,
so
iua
will
continue
to
have
to
monitor
how
the
if
the
funds
are
being
spent
in
a
compliant
way
and
the
administrative
funding
is
to
be
would
cover
those
you
know,
eight
or
seven
or
eight
years
to
completely
spend
the
the
funds.
D
So
does
that
sort
of.
B
C
D
Excellent
question
tracy:
this
is
a
point
that
a
lot
of
communities
are
having
their
plans
rejected
about
so.
D
However,
there
has
to
be,
it
has
to
be
clear
in
the
needs
and
gaps
analysis
why
the
population
is
being
chosen
and
what
is
intended
to
be
done
for
the
other
populations
if
they
are
not
selected
as
the
preferred
one.
D
So
I
I
feel
that
this
aspect
of
the
program
is
one
to
take
a
lot
of
care
around,
and
I
would
actually
like
to
get
more
technical
assistance
from
hud
because,
as
I've
said,
they've
been
very
clear
in
you
know
the
webinars
that
I've
gone
to
and
the
conversations
that
I've
had
that.
I
think
they
haven't
said
these
words.
But
what
I
would
say
is
it
seems
as
though
what
they're
saying
as
while.
D
We
should,
of
course
be
looking
at
the
existing
service
structure,
building
on
what
is
possible,
and
so
on
that
we
have
to
use
data
to
fully
explain
why
the
qualifying
population
has
been
chosen
and
be
also
able
to
address
what
we
learned
about
the
other
qualifying
populations.
D
C
The
other
thing
I
want
to
ask
about
is
a
lot
of
times.
Student
students
skew
our
data
in
in
terms
of
the
city
and
in
terms
of
the
census
and
the
10-year
plan,
and.
D
Yes
and
excellent
point:
that's
something
that
we
discuss
in
our
consolidated
plan
consolidate
a
plan
is
a
document
that
hud,
you
know,
wants
us
to
re-emphasize
in
this
in
this
effort.
So
I
don't
believe
that
we'll
be
in
any
jeopardy
of
doing
that.
We
are
clearly
going
to
be
focused
on
the
population
of
people
who
are
either
homeless
at
risk
of
homelessness
or
in
a
housing,
unstable
situation
that
has
a
number
of
different
criteria
that
doesn't
normally
include
the
population
that
you're
speaking
in.
C
D
C
B
If
I,
if
I
amaze
like
tracy,
brings,
brings
up
a
good
point
about
students,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
students
fall
within
the
qualified
populations,
we
still
have
to
take
them
into
account
right.
We
can't
just
kind
of
separate
out
the
students,
because
they
are
residents
of
the
city
of
ithaca.
D
That's
correct,
I
think
an
example
of
that
might
be
for
carl,
for
example,
somebody
who's
fleeing
domestic
violence
or
fleeing
stalking.
It's
pretty
clear
in
the
regulations
about
home
arp
that
that
anybody
who
fits
in
these
various
categories
has
to
be
considered.
D
It's
not
to
say
that
every
single
person's
needs
can
be
met,
but
correct
veterans
are
another
example
that
they
have
called
out
that
their
veterans
are
not
their
own
specific
qualifying
population,
but
any
veteran
that
fits
into
a
qualifying
population.
You
know
you
know,
is
included
in
that
way.
B
Right,
there's
no
further
questions
at
this
moment.
I'll
ask
anissa
can
go
ahead
and.
D
Okay,
so,
like
I
said,
the
size
and
demographic
composition
of
all
four
qualifying
populations
must
be
described
in
the
plan,
along
with
their
unmet
housing
and
service
needs.
We'll
use
a
lot
of
existing
data,
the
tokens
counting.
You
know
housing
assessment
numbers
like
how
many
units
currently
exist.
They
want
that
in
the
plan,
how
many
units
exist,
and
what
do
you
expect
the
gap
to
be
we'll
be
drawing
on
other
plans
for
that.
D
The
eligible
activities
and
compliant
uses
experience.
You
know
the
longtime
members
of
the
committee
will
see
that
rental
housing
is
emphasized,
tenant-based,
rental
assistance,
supportive
services
and
acquisitions
and
development
of
non-congregate
shelter.
These
are
actually
the,
I
would
say,
the
primary
uses
in
a
future
draft
of
this,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
indent
these
and
show
that
there
are
limits
to
how
much
can
be
used
for
the
the
fifth
and
sixth
bullet
point.
D
So
so
this
is
fifteen
percent,
and
this
is
five
percent
each
so,
but
there's
no
emphasis
on,
for
example,
home
buying
the
the
regular
home
program
that
we're
familiar
with
does
so
there's
a
lot
of
materials
on
hud's
website
that
talks
about
this
one
development
of
a
non-congregate,
shelter
you'll.
Remember
that
there
was
an
organization
in
town
that
came
forward
with
it
wasn't
a
fully
developed
proposal,
but
an
idea
for
acquisition
of
a
hotel
to
create
just
this
before
before
the
pandemic
there.
D
During
the
pandemic,
many
communities
experimented
with
acquisition
of
hotels
to
become
sheltering
places
that
were
non-congregate
and
hud
seems
to
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
that.
So
there's
no
requirement
that
we
do
that.
However,
I
point
this
out
as
well,
because
the
type
of
proposal,
for
example,
that
you've
been
hearing
lately
about
the
sanctioned
encampment,
how
that
proposal?
D
D
The
consultation
process-
I
think
we've
talked
about
that
quite
a
bit-
the
needs
and
gas
analysis.
Yes,.
B
We
have
a
couple
of
questions
tracy
first.
C
Yeah,
so
a
hotel
situation
would
qualify
as
long
as
there
was
some
little
microwave
or
something
in
the
room,
and
it
was
a
separate
bathroom.
Would
that
qualify
as
non-congregate.
D
There
definitely
has
to
be
the
separate
bathroom
yeah
I
in
the
materials
I've
looked
at,
it
doesn't
prescribe
what
the
kitchen
facility
needs
to
look
like.
I
don't
know
if
I
can't
say
off
the
top
of
my
head,
whether
a
microwave
would
qualify
okay,
but
just
to
just
to
be
clear.
It
would
be
for
acquisition
and
conversion
of
the
hotel.
E
D
Okay
and
on
congregate
situation.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
There's
certainly
in
terms
of
the
the
services
that
can
be
funded,
there's
some
overlap
between
agencies
that
qualify
for
this
aarp
funding
and
the
regular
home
or
cdbg
funding.
D
Yes,
I've
not
read
anything
that
would
prohibit
an
agency
or
a
provider
from
providing
from
receiving
both
types
of
funding.
Normally,
I
will
say
on
the
back
end,
and
you
know,
when
we
enter
information
to
hud,
we
usually
always
indicate
what
other
federal
funds
are
in
each
program
and
where
the
matches
are
coming
from,
so
hud
would
be
collecting
that
information
anyway,
you
know
kind
of
what
the
various
uses
and
sources
of
funding
were
and
where
they
come
from.
D
B
And
I'm
sorry
and
maybe
you're
about
to
get
to
this,
but
on
the
consultation
process,
the
the
coc,
a
continuum
of
care.
That
group
seems
to
include
all
the
other
bullet
points
under
the
consultation
process.
B
You
may
have
answered
this
already,
would
would
we
or
sorry
would
you
actually
be
able
to
just
consult
with
coc,
or
do
you
have
to
that
reach
out
to
all
these
all
the
agencies
who
are
trying
to
phrase
this
correctly,
do
you
have
to
to
hit
every
agency
that
falls
under
these
bullet
points,
or
you
can
you
say,
since
the
coc
contains
all
these
agencies
I'll
just
speak
with
that
group.
D
This
list
is
directly
drawn
from
hud
materials,
so
I
would
say
that
what
I'll
say
is
that
I'm
planning
on
going
to
the
october
5th
housing
and
homelessness
task
force
meeting
of
the
coc
to
introduce
this
information
to
invite
their
comment.
D
I
nells
and
I
have
talked
about
creating
a
short
survey
to
send
to
everyone
on
that
list.
That
really
just
asks
for
the
data
that
we
are
required
to
have
how
many
people
do
they
serve
annually?
What
the
demographic
information
is,
what
they
see
the
unmet
needs
as
being
and
what
any
challenges
or
barriers
that
they
see
are
also.
The
list
that
I
just
described
is
directly
from
hud
material
so
that
they
could
quickly
send
a
survey
in
and
that
we
could
compile
the
data
that
way
you
know.
D
Of
course,
we
could
do
and
you
know
follow
up
questions
with
them
if
it
wasn't
exhaustive
enough,
but
we
can
get
a
lion's
share
of
what
we
need
from
the
coc
and
the
groups
that
are
participating
in
the
coc.
However,
I
will
say
that
the
public
housing
authorities
do
not
normally
participate,
or,
I
should
say,
iha
doesn't
tca-
is
often
there
and
the
public
again.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
reaching
this
population
number
four.
D
I
have
some
ideas
for
doing
that.
For
example,
the
ithaca
eviction
displacement
defense
project
actually
kind
of
on
the
leading
edge
of
all
this
before
before
this
money
came
down
established
a
program
called
the
housing
disability
supplement
program.
So
we've
already
collected
data
about
how
many
people
applied
to
that
program
and
what
their
vulnerabilities
are
so
we'll
be
able
to
use
that
data,
for
example.
D
So,
in
answer
to
your
question,
yes,
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
lot
of
the
lion's
share
of
what
we
need
through
our
involvement
with
the
coc.
We
will
have
to
do
some
extra.
For
example,
we
have
to
consult
with,
for
example,
the
office
of
human
rights
and
cny
central
new
york,
fair
housing,
because
hus
specifically
requires
us
to
talk
with
those
organizations.
D
So
the
continuum
of
care
is
a
coordinating
body
that
communities
are
required
to
have
by
hud,
so
tompkins
county's
continuum
of
care
is
actually
not
all.
Communities
have
staffed
positions
to
do
that.
So
sometimes
you
know,
but
in
tompkins
county
has
been
made
a
priority,
so
the
human
services
coalition
houses
the
staff
of
the
continuum
of
care
and
they
are
responsible
for
collecting
all
manner
of
data
related
to
homeless
persons
in
our
our
county.
D
They
oversee
so
they
oversee
that
daily
collection
and
manage
the
it's
called
hmnis
homeless,
mana
management
information
system.
They
coordinate
the
point
in
time
count
which
is
required
by
hud.
They
coordinate
the
you
know
when
there's
funding
opportunities
such
as
the
hud
nofa,
that's
out
right
now.
They
they
coordinate
that
locally
and
they
bring
together
service
providers
for
regular
kind
of
meetings,
consultations
and
so
on.
The
homeless
and
housing
task
force
the
regular
coc
meeting
and
they
also
started
an
enhanced
street
outreach
coordination
team
during
the
pandemic.
D
So
so
it's
a
coordinating
body,
that's
how
it's
described
by
hud,
it's
not
a
governing
body
and
it
doesn't
have
any
ability
to,
for
example,
it
doesn't
create
policy
for
the
organizations
that
are
within
it.
It's
really
just
trying
to
coordinate
their
actions
so
that
we
can
be
as
efficient
as
possible.
D
Okay,
other
questions.
Yes,
tracy.
C
D
Yeah
great
question:
that's
where
I
I
think
that
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
clarity
on
the
hud
end
from
what
I
can
gather
is
that
I
mean
oddly
enough
you'll
see
the
public
process.
Requirements
are
very
slim.
I
reached
out
to
our
hud
rep
to
ask
specifically
that
question:
there's
not
a
prescription,
but.
D
The
materials
I've
read
indicates
that
opening
a
public
the
public
comment
period
at
the
same
time,
that
the
consultations
are
being
done
to
hear
from
the
community
but
also
be
able
to
give
the
community
during
that
public
comment
period.
You
know
some
information
so
that
they
can
see
what
data
we
have
and
where
we
think
you
know
from
what
we've
gathered
the
needs
and
gaps
are
so
they
can
comment
on.
D
It
would
be
useful,
is
what
I've
read
and
then
one
public
hearing
wants
an
allocation
plan
has
been
developed
is
what
hud
recommends
phew.
C
The
other
thing
I'm
thinking
about
is
this
can
be
spent
over
eight
years
and
we
don't
usually
do
plans
for
eight
years
so
is
is
this
is?
Is
it
the
kind
of
thing
where
part
of
the
plan
goes
in
and
we
say?
Yes,
we
think
these
should
be
funded,
or
is
it
that
the
whole
thing
goes
in
at
once
I
mean
the
needs
might
be
quite
different.
Actually
in
eight
years,
but
whatever.
D
I
think
I
think
part
of
the
reason
for
the
eight-year
timeline
has
to
do
with
for
communities
that
are
acquiring
and
or
engaging
in
construction.
You
know
those
projects
often
have
a
very
long
timeline.
A
D
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
the
timeline's
so
long
we
I
without
hopefully
without
speaking
out
of
turn,
I
would
say
that
probably
our
our
goal
would
be
to
create
allocations
for
the
the
entire
amount
and
then,
if
needed,
just
like
in
our
action
plan,
you
know.
Sometimes
a
project
is
not
able
to
go
forward.
A
C
D
I
think
that
the
process
you
know
the
process
that
nell
and
I
have
talked
about
is
yes
put
together
the
data
and
then
niles
really
likes
the
or
we've
talked
about
the
idea
of
putting
out
a
request
for
expressions
of
interest
to
let
commun
you
know
to
let
potential
applicants
know
what
the
compliant
uses
are.
D
If
we,
if
ira,
establishes
any
preferences
among
the
qualifying
populations
and
then
asks
for
the
potential
applicants
to
tell
us
what
they
would
be
proposing,
so
we
could
see
what
the
capacity
of
the
agencies
is
out
there
and
what
the
ideas
that
they're
they
they
would
be
willing
to
sponsor,
would
be.
Nelson
said
that
kind
of
the
request
for
expressions
of
interest
really
can
be
helpful
in
understanding
what
is
possible
in
the
current
lan.
You
know
in
the
landscape
and
then
normally
from
there
either.
D
You
know,
applicants
could
be
selected
that
way
to
to
go
further
or
then
an
rfp
could
be
designed
for
another
step,
another
layer
of
application
to
then
for
the
committees
to
review.
Does
that
make
sense?
I
feel,
like
I
kind
of
have
a
little
does
that
answer
your
question.
C
Yes,
yes,
I'm
still,
I'm
still
concerned
about
the
plan
business.
I
mean
the
preliminary
stuff
of
the
data
versus
the
plan
and
the
plan
is
the
whole
thing
it's
like
after
we've
asked
for
our
expressions
of
interest
and
then
we
decide
on
what
we
think
should
be
funded
and
then
the
whole
thing
goes
in
as
a
plan
to
hide,
or
is
it
that
preliminary
stuff
goes
into
hud?
To
start
with,
you
know,
when
you
said,
plans
have
been
rejected,
other
places.
What
are
they
rejecting.
D
I
mean
the
preliminary
stuff
doesn't
go
to
start
with
it's
okay,
it
all
goes
in
at
one
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
So
and
what
I
will
say
is
so
like
I
said,
the
public
process
requirements
seem
very
minimal
and
that's
seems
unusual
and
that's
why
I
reached
out
to
our
hud
rep
to
understand
more.
She
also,
I
also
reached
out
to
the
person
that
had
buffalo
who
I've
also
had
conversations
with
the
person
at
hub
buffalo,
who
is
seen
as
kind
of
being
a
specialist
in
home,
arp,
okay,
so
the
anticipated
planning
process.
I
mean
what,
because
it's
not
prescribed
in
the
way
that
the
action
plan
is
we're.
D
Gonna
try
to
follow
a
model,
that's
similar,
because
we
know
that
it
works.
Although
you
know
not
as
exhaustive
so
there'll
be
an
organizational
meeting
at
the
september
iowa
meeting.
If
there
is
one
or
we'll
do
it
in
october,
and
the
organizational
meeting
is
just
to
do
what
I've
just
done,
which
is
to
let
you
know
what
the
allocation
amount
is
and
what
the
eligible
activities
are
and
what
is
required
by
hud,
as
I've
attempted
to
do
here.
D
But
again,
all
your
comments
are
helping
me
understand
where
we
might
need
more
information
to
be
given.
Consultations
with
agencies
and
service
providers
are
actually
already
underway.
I
will
invite
further
input
at
the
homeless
and
housing
task
force
meeting
of
the
coc
and
we'll
send
out
that
short
survey.
D
I
describe
so
that
we
will
be
able
to
provide
hud
with
the
data
that
they
request.
Also
all
past
plans,
our
action
plans
and
our
consolidated
plan
and
lisa
horn's
report
all
provide
data
that
we
will
be
able
to
draw
from
then
nells
and
I
talked
about
on
october
27th
iua
meeting
initiating
the
15
day
public
comment
period.
D
I
don't,
if
you
know,
maybe
that
would
get
moved
back
to
another
date.
I
don't
know
if
it's
feasible
to
do
both
the
organizational
meeting
and
the
public
comment
at
the
same
time.
I
think
it
might
be,
but
this
is
you
know
this
is
the
plan
that
we,
this
is
the
framework
that
we
initially
discussed.
D
I
felt
it
might
be
useful
to
do
a
community
input
meeting,
such
as
what
we
do
for
the
the
action
plan
to
have
one
day
that
community
members
can
come
and
talk
about
their
thoughts,
so
that
we
can
tell
head
that
we
did
that
at
noon.
That
would
I
actually
I
find
that
attendance
is
better
when
we
do
a
zoom
meeting,
but
we
may
not
no
longer
be
under
the
public.
Meetings
can
occur
by
zoom
that
that
might
not
be
in
effect
by
that.
D
I
would
need
to
know
that
then
after
we
create
the
draft
plan,
I'm
calling
it
a
draft
plan,
but
perhaps
you
know
I,
I
think
our
understanding
of
plan
is
much
more
exhaustive
in
this
community,
and
you
know
it
sounds
like
from
what
hud
has
said.
It
could
be
a
lot
slimmer
like
a
framework
of
what
potential,
what
potential
projects
would
be
considered,
how
much
money
is
available,
and
so
on
that
that
could
potentially
constitute
a
plan.
D
D
Hud
hasn't
said
that
it
has
to
go
that
way.
So
this
is
again
we're
just
following
the
action
plan
as
a
model.
I
don't
anticipate
that
we
would
have
as
many
applications
as
we
get
to
the
action
plan
and
the
schedule
and
details
are
subject
to
change
the
submission
deadline
to
hud.
There
is
no
express
submission
deadline,
they're
accepted
on
a
rolling
basis.
D
Hud's
expressive
plan
should
be
submitted
as
expeditiously
as
possible,
which
is
all
which
all
of
you
have
been
saying
and,
as
I've
said
before,
our
hud
rap
expressed
that
she
was
very
satisfied
with
where
we
are
currently
in
our
planning
process.
B
So
anisa
sounds
like
because
there's
no
pressure
to
have
the
initial
steps
under
the
planning
process
done
by
a
certain
time,
if
I'm
understanding
that
correctly,
that
gives
staff
some
flexibility,
because
we
don't
want
this
process
to
overlap
with
the
the
funding
processes
coming
up
for
the
the
2022
action
plan.
Am
I
correct.
D
D
Sooner
rather
than
later
seems
to
be
a
desire
in
the
community,
but
certainly
the
lisa
horn
reports.
Data
is
now
available,
and
so
we
might
want
to
take
advantage
of
that
while
it's
still
current.
So
I
think
that
there
is
a
balance
to
be
undertaken.
Yeah.
D
Yes,
it
doesn't
have
the
same
kinds
of
deadlines
as
the
action
plan
has.
So
we
can
adjust
the
timing
in
ways
that
we
can't
for
the
action
plan,
and
I
guess
I
I
mean
I
guess
that
would
be
our
guidances.
Like
you
know,
if,
if
we're
going
through
the
process
and
for
yeah,
I
guess
I
would
just
leave
it
there
and
say
that,
yes,
things
are
subject
to
change.
D
B
A
couple
of
things
one
I
want
to
thank
charles
for
dropping
the
continuum
of
care
definition
into
the
chat
and
also
the
lisa
horn
report.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
remember
if
that
went
to
the
whole
this
committee
or
if
I
just
went
to
the
ira
board,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
cheyenne
probably
has
not
seen
it
so
if
you
could
send
that
out
to
the
committee.
B
D
B
F
Okay,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Anissa
in
listening
to
this,
it
seems
like
this
is
quite
a
bit
of
work
for
very
little
money,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
as
to
is
there
what
I
mean?
Has
the
city
already
decided
to
accept
the
plan,
the
the
money,
or
are
you
asked
giving
us
this
presentation
with
the
anticipation
of
requesting
our
opinion
on
whether
or
not
taking
the
funding
is
worthwhile.
D
I've
never
been
in
a
situation
where
the
the
city
had
I
mean
this.
I've
never
been
in
a
conversation
where
the
I've
heard
that
the
city
is
considering
not
accepting
the
funding.
I
see.
Okay,.
F
I
mean
it
just
there
seems
to
be
the
homeless
popul.
The
home
dealing
with
homelessness
seems
to
be,
and
especially
the
definitions
that
I
that
I'm
understanding
that
they
want
to
incorporate
into
this
process
to
have
any
impact
on
that.
F
I
think
that
a
1.2
million
dollars
is
just
kind
of.
I
could
spend
that
in
a
study
and
not
really
there.
There
really
wouldn't
be
enough
money
available
for
any
one
group
to
to
effectively
impact
homelessness
in
our
community.
B
Well,
I
was
going
to
say,
given
the
the
small
amounts
that
the
agency
gets
from
hud.
This
is
significant.
You
know
for
us
to
be
able
to
provide
to
to
our
agencies
and
and
you're
you're,
absolutely
right,
steve
that
this
wouldn't
build.
This
wouldn't
build
any
housing,
but
it
may
allow
I'm
sorry
it
will
allow
the
agencies
we
work
with.
To
do
some
significant
work.
I
mean
we
think
about.
You,
know
catholic
charities
with
the
the
the
down
payment
assistance
or
the
agencies
that
do
the
the
the
temporary
rental
assistance.
B
You
know
this
can
have
some
real
impact
and
unfortunately,
we're
in
a
position
where
we
can't
afford
to
turn
down
any
money,
particularly
when
they
include
some
administrative
funding
too.
So
you're
right.
It's
not
nearly
enough
to
to
effectively
address
the
issue,
particularly
for
hot
for
for
homelessness,
but
it
will
help-
and
I
think
you
know-
as
they
said
we-
I
can't
think
of
any
instances
where
we
said
no
we're
not
going
to
take
it.
Take
the
money
tracy.
C
Yeah
take
the
money,
but
I'm
also
thinking
that
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
come
to
us
during
the
normal
grant
cycle
are
combining
money
with
into
a
project.
For
example,
some
of
the
some
of
the
tenant,
some
of
the
rental
housing
we've
provided
a
chunk,
but
we
haven't
done
the
whole
thing.
C
D
C
D
So
that's
that
would
require
some
balancing
only
because
of
the
the
statute
and
the
regulations.
So
you
know
I
could
see
a
project.
You
know
understanding
like
you
know
where,
where
they
can
apply
for
regular
home
funding,
perhaps
they'll
be
developing
rental
housing
with
regular
home
funding
and
they
want
to
match.
D
You
know
rental
housing
that
will
be
specific
to
homeless
populations
with
that
development.
Something
like
that
because,
again,
if
we
look
at
the
compliant
uses,
rental
housing
is
a
compliant
use.
Supportive
services
are
a
compliant
use,
so
perhaps
they
want
to
develop.
D
There's
an
there's,
a
project
that
we
talked
about
a
lot
in
the
community
art
house,
for
example,
that
had
rental
housing.
They
ended
up
housing,
a
lot
of
people
who
were
coming
from
homelessness,
supportive
services.
D
Yes,
yes
yeah,
so
it's
really
just
about,
because
the
regular
home
program
has
different
some
different
regulations.
They
would
have
to
make
sure
that
each
piece
was
complying
with
each
program.
D
B
So
I
think
we
should
finish
up
this
discussion
because
we
have
another
could
be
a
fairly
substantial
discussion,
but
perhaps
not.
I
do
have
a
question,
though,
in
terms
of
next
steps
for
this
proposal
it
will
be
well.
We
may
not
have
a
an
agency
board
meeting
this
month
still
to
be
determined.
B
D
That's
correct,
so
consultations
again
are
already
underway
creation
of
that
very
short
survey
that
I've
talked
about
to
send
out
to
all
the
providers
that
the
coc
has
on
their
mailing
list
and
collect
data.
D
That
way,
I
think,
will
be
very
effective,
but
between
now
and
when
ira
next
meets,
I
think,
what's
clear,
is
we'll
be
bringing
you
know
working
to
like
bring
together
the
data
from
previous
plans,
leaseholders
plans
and
so
on
to
create
a
picture
of
you
know
how
many
housing
units,
how
many
sheltering
units
etc
exists
in
in
the
community
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge
and
where
the
gaps
are.
D
So
we
can
do
that
kind
of
synthesizing
of
the
research
between
now
and
when
ioria
meets,
and
I
think
that
will
be
very
helpful.
So
I
mean
that
that
in
itself
would
get
us
a
long
way,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
very
important
to
do
first
and
from
what
I
can
glean
from
hud.
B
Okay,
thank
you
all
right,
thanks
denise,
so
that
was
quite
a
discussion,
a
lot
of
questions,
and
you
know
we
will
of
course
hear
much
more
about
this.
B
Moving
on
on
page,
nine
of
our
in
our
packet
is
a
member
of
memo
of
termination
to
st
john's
community
services.
They
were
unable
to
complete
a
project
or
perhaps
process,
not
the
correct
word
unable
to
fully
document
the
spending
on
the
project
anisa.
You
take
us
through
this.
Please.
D
Yes,
so
st
john's
received
some
cdbg
cv
funding
for
newer
members.
D
This
was
a
stream
of
funding,
not
unlike
home
arp,
which
was
released
by
the
government
kind
of
in
response
to
a
specific
need,
covid,
and
so
not
unlike
the
home
arp
process,
we
had
to
go
through
a
separate
process
to
allocate
it
and
it
kind
of
ran
alongside
our
usual
entitlement
process
and
st
john's,
and
the
requirement
was
that
any
project
funded
needed
to
respond
to
prepare
for
or
mitigate
the
coven
19,
the
effects
of
coven
19
in
the
community.
D
So
st
john's
community
services,
which
operates
the
homeless
shelter
in
the
friendship
center
in
town
applied
for
funding
to
replace
their
hvac
system,
because
you
know
again
because
of
kobit
19
having
cleaner
air
having
more
exchange
of
air
was
seen
as
important,
so
the
iura
recommended
funding
them.
D
They
actually
did
replace
replace
their
hvac
system,
but
they
did
not
with
all
federal
funding
that
involves
construction
or
installation
of
you
know.
Construction
type
activities
any
that
exceed
over
two
thousand
dollars
in
funds
are
required
to
comply
with
the
federal
davis
bacon
act,
which
requires
that
the
those
working
on
the
project,
the
laborers,
the
construction
workers,
receive
federal
prevailing
wage
and
the
exception
is
if
they
go
with
a
sole
proprietor
who's.
D
You
know
a
one-person
business
who
does
the
installation
themselves,
then
they're
exempted
from
davis
bacon,
however,
st
john's
contracted
with
the
company,
and
they
did
the
work,
but
they
didn't
they
weren't
able
to
document
davis,
bacon
compliance.
There
are
ways
that
they
could.
You
know,
for
example,
they
could
have.
If
the
contractor
had
been
amenable,
one
strategy
could
have
been
to.
D
You
know,
understand
what
the
prevailing
wage
was
and
pay
any
back
wages
to
them,
but
the
construction
company
did
not
wish
to
go
forward
in
that
way,
and
so
st
john's
was
not
able
to
document
that
they
complied
with
the
david
spican
act
and
therefore
they
needed
to.
They
were
not
able
to
voucher,
and
so,
therefore,
we
gave
them
time
to
develop
a
strategy
to
see
if
they
they
could
voucher.
B
Any
questions
about
this,
this
particular
memo
and
the
reasons
for
it:
no,
okay,
so
the
next
step,
and
then
perhaps
the
the
I
will
say
most
important,
but
an
important
component
of
this
is
that
there's
twenty
thousand
dollars
twenty
thousand
plus
dollars
that
need
to
be
reallocated
and
so
at
I
don't
know.
If
we
wanna
have
that
discussion
now
we
denise
and
I
had
communicated
kind
of
about
the
reallocation
component
of
it.
And
how
do
we
approach
it?
B
Excuse
me
we.
What
last
month,
two
months
ago,
had
to
discuss
some
some
reprogramming
of
funds
and
you'll.
Remember
that
we
had
three
local
agencies
who
had
applied
for
reallocations
of
the
the
coded
funding
and
we,
let's
see
we
chose
to.
D
D
B
Immigrant
services
and
we
chose
to
fund
the
diccs
application
because
we
discussed
the
importance
of
child
care
to
so
many
families
and
their
abilities
to
to
to
function
normally,
I
guess
in
the
community,
in
their
jobs
with
you
know,
needing
the
child
care,
so
we
have
reallocated
those
funds
to
drcc's
project.
B
B
Or
come
up
with
something
different,
so
that's
that's
something
that
that
we
need
to
decide
how
we,
how
we
plan
to
reallocate
these
funding
these
funds
and
kind
of
the
timing
of
it
too.
But
let
me
interrupt
thank
you
cheyenne
for
for
joining
us
this
morning.
E
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
I
don't
know
why
I
just
got
90
minutes
in
my
head,
so
I
let
myself
get
booked
for
a
10
o'clock,
but
real
quick
can
they
get
reimbursed
for
covet
expenses?
They
already
made
chance.
E
D
I
think
this
is
where
the
idea
that
something
that's
responding
to
the
effects
of
covet
is
also
eligible.
So,
and
I
will
say
that
I
it
seems
like
that
category
is
rather
broad.
So
when
we
see
impacts
on
you
know,
workers
because
of
covid
or
child
care,
as
we
just
discussed
or
you
know,
transportation
has
been
affected
by
covert
there
aren't
as
many
bus
drivers
and
you
know,
there's
a
deficit.
You
know
there's
there.
D
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
to
read
that
as
long
as
the
the
applicant
can
describe
and
explain
how
it
is
a
pro
covid
related
reason.
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
something
now
that
I
think
we
would
normally
cover
under
the
grant
summary,
but
I
wanted
to
let
the
group
know
that
we
have
also
asked
reach
we've,
given
them
a
30-day
deadline
to.
Let
us
know
whether
they're
going
to
be
vouching
for
the
remaining
11
of
the
grant
that
they
received,
which
amounts
to
2
230.
D
D
It's
up
on
october
3rd,
I
believe,
is
a
monday.
I
think
yeah.
F
Okay,
I
think
that
anissa's
comment
about
the
additional
two
thousand
dollars
kind
of
makes
my
what
I
was
gonna
say
irrelevant.
I
was
just
going
to
suggest
that
since
orr
was
the
second
place
contender
in
in
our
meeting
in
july
that
maybe
we
could
consider
just
funding
them.
But
if
there's
going
to
be
more
money,
then
maybe
we
should
wait
until
october
to
decide.
D
C
D
I
think
that's
a
great
question
tracy
and
we
can
perhaps
delve
in
a
little
bit
more
when
we
look
at
the
grant
summary,
but
when
I
went
through
it
just
to
let
you
know
the
health
and
wellness
smoothies
and
food
services
and
yoga
project
has
been
vouchering,
so
that'll
change
on
future
grant
summaries.
D
The
online
market
discounts
has
started
going
forward
and
they
have
a
different
contract
expiration
date.
I
should
have
mentioned
also
that
the
reach
expiration
date
was
reached
so
online
market
discounts.
They
have
a
different
expiration
date,
so
it
looks
like
at
this
time.
Reach
is
the
only
one
that
would
have
money
coming
forward
and
an
expired
contract
that
we
know
about.
D
I
just
wanted
to
mention
about
oar
in
the
last
conversation
there
were
some
questions
about
there
may
be
they
may
have
had
some
non-compliant
uses,
although
they
might
be
able
to
justify
why
those
uses
are
are
compliant.
I
also
want
to
say
that
oar
has
continued
with
some
conversations
they
seem.
D
They
seem
at
the
beginning
of
you
know,
kind
of
hammering
out
the
details
with
they're,
hoping
to
bring
together
some
community
partners
to
be
able
to
open
their
drop-in
center
in
the
evenings
four
evenings
a
week
to
they
see
that
as
a
need.
I
have
been
invited
to
some
initial
conversations
with
them
about
that,
but
they
I
have
asked
them
if
they
have
a
preliminary
budget
which
they
don't
and
but
I've.
Let
them
know
that
we're
very
interested
in
hearing
what
this
proposal
might
look
like.
D
D
I
need
to
get
the
the
name
of
that
process,
but
the
the
project
that
they're
looking
at
they're,
not
considering
a
pilot
or
the
last
time
I
spoke
to
them,
they
weren't,
and
that's
why
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
to
know
more
how
they've
developed
that
idea.
D
Just
to
let
you
know
that
some
projects
may
be
applying
to
the
county
for
some
funds,
in
which
case,
maybe
these
cb
funds
would
be
a
good
match
or
a
project
that
is,
you
know,
being
funded
by
the
county,
or
perhaps
you
know,
there's
a
smaller
project
out
there
that
I
I
don't
mean
to
take
us
straight,
not
not
to
get
away
from
the
three
applicants
that
are
aside.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
the
oer
has
continued
in
their
thinking.
B
A
B
Had
the
applications
I
mean
they
as
anissa
indicated,
they
might
need
to
modify
them,
but
in
terms
of
time
it
would
certainly
be
a
much
shorter
process
than
soliciting
new
applications.
B
But
if
I
remember
correctly,
we,
it
was
a
relatively
short
time
period
right
with
the
last
reallocation,
you
kind
of
announced
to
the
community
that
these
funds
were
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
process.
D
D
Funds
funds
already
and
compliantly,
and
so
the
three
were
identified
as
the
three
that
applied.
B
So
if
we
did
decide
to
to
open
it
up
beyond
the
two
that
it
applied
last
time,
it
would
still
be
a
relatively
limited
pool
of
applicants,
and
so
you
know
we
could
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
that
much
of
a
burden
on
staff.
D
I
mean
yes
yeah,
I
mean
I
would
look
to
you
for
how
you
how
you
would
like
to
do
that
I
mean
the
I.
The
committee
could
also
solicit
a
proposal
from
you
know.
Somebody
that's
worked
with
us
in
the
past
or
or
somebody
that
you're
interested
in
you
know.
We
could
also
try
that
route,
but
it's
it's
really
up
to
you.
I
do
think
there
is
more
information
that
could
be
forthcoming
relatively
soon,
that
you
might
want
to
consider.
B
B
On
top
of
everything,
the
staff
is
facing
the
last
quarter
of
this
year,
not
sure
how
how
efficient
it
would
be
for
us
to
say,
let's,
let's
solicit
some
some
proposals
here,
but
we
want
to
do
what's
best
for
the
community.
Also.
B
B
Is
that
that's
what
I
kind
of
what
I
heard
from
from
tracy
and
steve,
and
I'm
I'm
leaning
that
way,
also
fernando
your
thoughts.
A
B
Right
so,
let's,
let's
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
our
next
meeting
then
and
in
the
in
the
agenda
that
we'll
get
you
know.
Anisse
will
have
some
more
information
in
terms
of
our
options
and
then
we
can
decide.
But
whatever
we
decide,
I
think
we
want
it
to
be
relatively
short
because
again
we're
into
october
and
that
last
quarter
of
the
year
it's
going
to
be
pretty
busy
for
staff.
B
D
I've
heard
different
things.
I
know
it's
a
little,
it's
a
little
hard
to
understand
exactly
where
they
are
with
it,
I'll
reach
out
to
them
and
find
out
what
the
capacity
they're
currently
accepting
is,
I
I
know
they
had
reopened
a
while
ago,
but
with
a
limited
capacity
due
to
social
distancing.
However,
perhaps
they've
lifted
those
mandates
so
I'll
reach
out
to
chris
to
find
out
what
the
what
the
current
how
they
would
describe,
how
open
they
are
right.
Now.
D
No,
it's
it's
more!
That
concept
it's
more
and
again.
I
want
to
just
underline
it.
I
did
ask
them,
because
I
know
that
they
did
experiment
with
something
like
that
at
the
beginning
of
covid.
D
Although
understanding
you
know
the
beginning
of
covid,
our
understanding
of
the
disease
was
so
much
different,
so
they
did
do
something
like
that
in
the
groundswell
office.
That's
on
fulton,
and
I
asked
you
know
what
kind
of
demand
that
they
saw
and
they
I
don't
know
if
they
didn't
collect
numbers.
They
felt
like
that.
The
people
that
came
really
needed
it
and
that's
what's
driving
their
current
planning,
but
I
don't
know
that
they
had
data
on
that.
D
So
they're
kind
of
seeing
the
drop
in
center
as
being
a
place
that
people
who
are
in
crisis
can
come
at
night
that
perhaps
the
ipd
could
refer
people
who
they
encounter,
who
have
a
need
to
them
at
night.
D
They
kind
of
see
it
as
a
way
of
limiting
people's
need
to
use
the
emergency
room
or
police
interactions.
Although
I
will
say
that
there
was
a
police
representative
there
and
a
nursing
representative
there,
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
that
either
of
those
agents,
I
don't
want
to
say
that
the
agencies
weren't
supportive.
It
just
wasn't
clear
to
me
that
those
agencies
were
being
used
in
the
way
that
oar
thought
that
they
were
so.
D
I
think
they
see
it
as
a
just
to
be
a
resource
that's
available
at
night,
whether
for
to
intervene
in
a
crisis
to
provide
some
referrals
to
somebody
who
needs
them
at
night
to
continue
working
with
somebody
who
started
a
process
during
the
day,
that's
exceeding
daytime
working
hours
and
so
on.
That's
kind
of
how
it
was
described.
D
Yeah,
I'd
really
be
interested
in
seeing
a
concrete
proposal.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
happening
and
a
lot
of
partners
in
the
room
that
seemed
to
be
hearing
about
it
for
the
first
time.
So
that
leads
me
to
believe
that
it's
very
much
in
the
initial
phases
thanks.
B
B
Even
though
it's
it's
not
included
on
this
summary
anissa,
I'm
assuming
that
we
are
still
over
the
the
spin
down
ratio.
D
Yes,
we
are
actually,
and
I
the
kim
will
have
more
information
I
didn't
realize.
When
I
was
I
became
alarmed
when
I
I
put
the
june
one
on
there,
because
that
seems
so
far
away,
but
kim
is
still
in
the
process
of
finishing
the
july
grant
summary.
But
yes,
we're
still
we're
still
a
little
bit
over
okay.
D
I
did
just
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
I
have
reached
out
again
to
under
the
2020
cdbg
activities
to
go
ithaca
last
conversation
I
had
with
them.
They
were
planning
on
vouchering,
but
we
have
not
seen
that
voucher,
yet
their
contract
doesn't
expire
until
december,
but
I've
had
various
conversations
with
them
about
the
value
of
vouchering,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
why
they
haven't
been
able
to
do
that
yet
so
just
wanted
to.
D
Let
you
know
that
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
them
community
gardens
also
2020
just
reached
out
to
us
the
other
day.
They
have
some
more
things
that
they'll
be
vouchering,
for
those
are
two
that
I
have
recent
information
about.
D
Yeah,
I
have
some
things
that
I
thought
you
might
be
interested
in
knowing
so
the
hud
grant
agreements
for
2022
were
just
transmitted
to
us
this
week.
The
mayor,
hopefully,
will
sign
them
today
and
we'll
return
them
to
hud,
so
that
will
release
the
2020
to
three
hundred
and
three
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
and
home
three
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
eight
hundred
twenty
five,
so
that
will
be
able
to
begin
the
contract
process.
D
Charles
and
I
have
waited
on
sending
commit
commitment
letters
until
we
receive
that
so
we'll
send
the
balance
of
the
commitment.
Letters
out
and
charles
will
begin
working
on
those
those
contracts.
As
usual
he's
you
know
been
in
touch
with
people,
and
I
he
always
prioritizes
the
contracts
in
terms
of
agencies
that
specify
the
greatest
need,
so
we'll
be
working
on
that
there
are.
There
is
some
new
housing
coming
online
in
ithaca
that
you
will
be
interested
in
the
advocacy
center.
D
You
probably
remember
has
worked
with
the
salvation
army
and
inhs
with
eshai
funding
to
have
six
units
in
the
founders
weight
development
that
will
be
designated
for
domestic
violence.
Survivors,
that's
a
special
population,
so
there
are
two
studio
units:
two
one
bedrooms,
one
two
bedroom
and
one
three
bedroom.
D
D
D
The
village
house
is
looking
for
a
live-in
staff
member,
but
they
expect
to
be
able
to
accommodate
people
from
age
12
to
24..
I'm
not
certain.
I
will
reach
out
for
more
information
about
what
the
configuration
of
the
housing
is
like
and
for
minors.
In
the
program,
I
believe
it's
through
17
will
need
to
have
the
permission
of
their
guardian
if
they're
going
to
be
living
there.
So
that's
something
quite
new
that
was
announced
at
the
coc
meeting
or
where
is
that
anissa?
B
I
know
yeah
I
do,
but
is
that
I
first
before
I
say
anything
about
it
is:
would
that
fall
under
kind
of
like
the
advocacy
center's
shelter
that
you
know
it?
It's
secret.
D
Myself,
because
I
didn't
have
in
my
notes
where
it
was,
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
public
information,
so
maybe
I'll
inquire
of
them
offline
and
then
I
can
send
you
the
information.
If,
if
it's,
if
it's
publicly
available,
where
they're,
where
it
will
be.
B
C
Okay,
so
there'd
be
a
live-in
person.
Does
that
person
take
up
one
of
the
units.
D
D
So
I'm
not
sure
I
would
assume
that
they're
perhaps
approaching
it
in
that
way,
which
kind
of
I
would
think
of
it
a
little
bit,
although
they
might
not
want
this
term
out
there
a
little
bit
like
a
group
home,
but
I
in
subsequent
meetings
I'll
provide
some
additional
detail.
D
This
was
an
announcement
was
that
was
made
that
they
were
accepting
applications
to
them
so
so
that
I've
been
in
conversation
with
black
hands
universal
over
a
variety
of
matters
this
summer
and
most
recently
they
have
an
interest
in
learning
more
about
becoming
a
community
based
development
organization
at
cbdo.
So
we'll
be
meeting
about
that
up.
Yeah
the
broken
promises
initiative
requested
and
I
I
had
actually
reached
out
to
them
to
do
some
technical
assistance.
They
are
still
interested
in
the
homeownership
project.
D
They
proposed
to
iura
last
year
on
down
payment
assistance,
so
they're
still
exploring
how
they
might
be
able
to
do
that,
and
actually
I
received
some
information
yesterday
from
another
stakeholder
in
the
community
about
apparently
bank
of
america
and
another
large
bank.
I
think
it's
chase
are
going
to
be
rolling
out.
D
Mortgage
programs
specifically
for
people
who've
been
underserved
by
mortgages
in
the
past,
so
I
sent
them
that
article
that
they
might
want
to
consider
that
as
they're
moving
forward,
I've
been
in
contact
with
nomus
lagermusse
about
coming
to
do
a
site
visit
and
also
giving
some
technical
assistance
been
a
very
busy
summer
for
them.
I
believe
that
their
coordinator
was
ill
for
a
while,
and
then
she
was
also
out
of
town,
but
we'll
continue
to
work
on
finding
a
date
to
get
together.
D
I
received
a
sidewalks
inquiry
just
from
a
member
of
the
public.
I
thought
you
might
be
interested
in
this
was
a
person
who
was
just
concerned
about
the
lack
of
sidewalks
in
the
west
hill
area,
so
I
referred
her
to
john
in
the
city
sidewalks
program
for
more
information.
She's
very
grateful
about
that,
and
I
noted
this
as
a
a
comment
that
we
got
for
our
upcoming
action
plan:
the
learning
web,
I'm.
D
They
she,
I
remember
the
con.
Let
me
look
up
this
question,
but
the
the
context
of
it
was
she
felt
like
she
was
seeing
a
lot
of
families
with
young
children
walking
kind
of
up
and
down
the
hill
where
there
was
not.
D
Let
me
go
ahead
and
just
read
this
for
you:
I'm
concerned
about
the
lack
of
sidewalks
for
pedestrians
coming
from
the
state
street
areas
from
the
new
bridge.
There
are
many
mothers
walking
with
children
strollers
and
even
though
some
wheelchairs
coming
around
cherry
street,
making
their
way
to
markets
with
the
new
bridge
construction.
Please
be
aware
that,
upon
its
opening,
there
will
be
a
terrific
amount
of
traffic,
not
to
mention
present
conditions,
I'm
so
worried
for
each
citizen,
baby
to
elderly
to
arrive
safely
to
their
destination.
B
All
right
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
had
the
discussion
with
the
the
the
planning
around
that
the
new
apartments
and
and
complexes
there
on
the
on
cherry
street
and
and
malone
drive
mm-hmm.
That's
worse.
Yes,
steve.
F
Jungle
has
grown
significantly
where
people
used
to
walk
across
that
path.
They
no
longer
feel
safe,
walking
the
path
between
cherish
cherry
street
and
see
some
alone
drive.
So
there's
a
lot
more
traffic
of
people
walking
in
the
street
along
the
street
in
front
of
art
house
than
there
was
in
even
last
summer.
D
Thank
you
for
that
information.
Learning
web
we've
created
a
forum
for
them
the
last
piece
that
they
were
needing
to
be
able
to
work
with
landlords
to
implement
the
new
tiber
regulations.
There
is
going
to
be
a
staff
change
at
learning.
Web
rick
alward
has
accepted
a
new
position
and,
as
I
just
said,
the
county
is
opening
its
application
process
for
those
wanting
to
apply
for
community
recovery
funds,
county
arp
funds.
B
Okay
and
so
just
go
back
regarding
the
village
house,
because
again
we're
not
sure
if
it's
public
information
I'll
just
send
an
email
out
to
the
to
a
niece
of
the
committee.
And
let
you
know
where
that
that's
located.
B
And
but
just
you
know,
keep
in
mind
that
it
may
be
that
they
want
to
keep
it,
but
I've
not
heard
any
indication
that
that
you
know
there's
concerns
there,
but
you
know
have
not
been
on
the
board.
I
reside
I'm
not
on
the
board
with
the
village
anymore,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
latest
discussions
were.
B
I
just
happened
to
have
seen
them
going
into
the
into
the
house
and
spoke
with
the
executive
director
and
learned
about
it
and
the
funding
and
all
that,
okay,
all
right,
so
it
seems
like
we
have
covered
all
today's
business
again
for
the
october
meeting.
It
may
be
a
person
we're
still
the
way
the
governor's
been
going.
It
keeps
getting
extended
every
month.
It
seems,
but
we
should
keep
in
mind
that
we
may
have
an
in-person
meeting
for
our
october
meeting.
B
B
All
right,
everyone,
thank
you.
Oh
you
know
one
one
quick
thing
and
I'm
going
to
mention
this.
So
one
thing
we
had
discussed
this
is
a
while
ago-
and
you
may
remember
this
about
adding
committee
adding
new
members
to
the
committee.
B
We
had
talked
about
having
a
discussion
within
the
committee
when
a
name
comes
up
and
because
you
know
ithaca's
such
a
small
place
and
it
may
be
valuable
to
for
the
committee,
it's
for
us
to
discuss
a
new
member
because
of
conflicts.
You
know
I
may
know
something
about
somebody
that
would
say.
Well,
you
know.
B
Maybe
this
person
is
not
a
good
fit
for
the
committee
and
that
process
did
not
happen
with
cheyenne,
which
kind
of
you
know
got
an
email
that
here's
a
person
who's
interested
in
joining
the
agency.
B
As
a
committee
member,
we
think
that
her
she
her
interest
is
in
is
with
the
ni
committee
versus
you
know
the
openings
on
the
ed
committee,
and
so
you
know
the
interview
was
scheduled,
and
I
will
talk
with
with
chris
proof
about
this
that
well,
I
should
ask
the
question:
if
the
committee
still
feels
that
we
would
prefer
to
have
kind
of
an
internal
discussion
prior
to
someone
being
appointed
or
as
the
process
as
it
worked
out
this
time.
B
Okay,
let
me
say
I
have
no
concerns
about
cheyenne,
as
you
heard
from
her,
she
has
quite
a
bit
of
experience.
She's
been
in
the
community
for
a
long
time,
her
areas
of
expertise
fit
in
with
what
we
do,
but
just
the
process
itself
again,
this
being
such
a
small
in
many
ways,
a
small
city.
I
think
it's
best
to
hear
from
committee
members
before
someone
else
joins
us
in
case
there
are
any
issues
or
any
conflicts.
You
know
interpersonal
conflicts,
any
thoughts
on
that
tracy.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
really
feel
the
need
to
have
the
committee
approve
everyone.
What
I
do
like
to
encourage
people
to
do
is,
if
they're
interested
to
come
to
a
meeting
or
two
to
see
whether
they
feel
like
they're
going
to
be
a
good
fit
and
whether
it's
really
interesting
for
them
and
and
and
see
that
interaction.
There
too,
I
mean
we've
had
that
happen
in
the
past
quite
a
number
of
times.
C
I
mean
somebody
may
be
jumping
into
something
and
then
they
think
oh,
my
gosh.
This
is
the
most
boring
thing
I
ever
talked
about
or
oh
it's
way
more
than
I
expected,
and
I
hope
anybody
who's
invited
to
join
hears
about
the
heavy
lifting
in
well
whatever
months,
probably
january
february.
Now,
because
looking
at
all
those
grant
proposals-
and
then
when
we
talked
about
this
today-
that's
a
whole
nother
set
of
them,
and
most
of
that
goes
through
this
committee.
I'm
not
sure
it
should,
but
it
does.
B
Okay,
all
right
yeah
thanks
tracy,
that's
a
very
good
point,
and
that
is
the
way
it's
worked
in
the
past.
People
have
attended
the
meetings,
as
you
said,
to
decide
whether
this
is
what
they
actually
think
they're
getting
into.
C
B
Okay
and
you'll
see
that
anissa
draft
in
the
chat
that
lynch
reim,
our
our
former
community
development
planner,
is
going
to
be
honored
by
stork
ithaca
on
september
15th.
Is
that
what
their
annual
meeting
anissa.
D
C
B
Yeah,
no,
it
definitely
is
and
do
we
know
amissa
when
the
the
apartment
building
itself
is
planning
to
open.
C
B
B
Right
all
right,
everyone.
Thank
you
very
much
I'll
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
at
10,
30..