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B
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F
B
Yeah
all
right,
yeah
I,
should
warn
you.
It's
been
our
tradition
on
this
community
as
committee
rather
to
because
we
we've
had
observers
from
the
government
class
in
the
past.
So
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
tell
us
something
about
yourself
so
be
prepared.
B
B
B
Sorry
there
was
stable
yeah
all
right,
so
we
have
one
action
item
and
that's
the
housing,
real
Rehabilitation
standards,
neighborhood's
home,
assisted
housing,
so
I
need
to
send
us
out.
Excuse
me
the
proposed
amendment-
and
this
is
an
update
to
a
previous
resolution.
D
So,
for
all
of
the
units
that
the
that
home,
that
the
city
of
ithaca's
Home
entitlement
program
has
assisted
to
have
a
period
of
affordability
once
they
are
built,
and
so
we
need
to
monitor
those
units
during
their
period
of
affordability
and
the
periods
of
affordability
range
from
five
years
to
20
years.
D
So
in
the
initial,
the
initial.
Well,
what's
the
word?
What's
the
word
I
want
to
use
when
the
project
is
completed.
There
is
an
inspection,
however,
going
forward
all
the
years
of
the
period
of
affordability.
D
Those
projects
need
to
be
monitored
every
three
years,
so
we
have
many
units
in
the
in
our
portfolio
at
this
point
that
are
still
in
a
period
of
affordability
and
actually
I
meant
to
look
that
up
right
before
I
got
in
the
meeting
and
I
was
looking
up
something
else
instead,
but
I
would
say
it's
about
100
units
total
and
because
we
need
to
monitor
them
every
three
years
we
need
to
have
our
standards
had
had
once
the
participating
jurisdictions
to
have
to
find
what
their
standards
are
for
monitoring
them.
D
So
the
just
as
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
bringing
this
forward
right
now
is
that
in
2006,
as
you
saw
in
the
previous
resolution
in
your
in
your
packet,
you
know
we
set
some
standards,
but
over
time,
HUD
has
been
kind
of
rolling
out
new
guidance
and
in
hearing
And
discussing
this
issue
with
Nells.
D
What
he
has
said
is
that
HUD
in
the
past
used
to
kind
of
issue
guidance
in
stages
and
back
in
2006.
When
this
was
passed,
there
was
an
indication
that
the
HUD
was
going
to
be
forthcoming
and
be
more
definitive
and
exactly
what
standards
and
wanted
communities
to
pursue.
D
That
was
my
understanding
anyway.
Hud
used
to
do
use
a
format
called
I
think
it's
a
UPC
uniform
property
codes.
D
It
was
a
very,
very
lengthy
form
and
inspection
that
it
was
using
and
it
indicated
to
communities
at
that
time
that
it
was
going
to
be
accepting
other
types
of
formats
and
at
one
of
the
city
to
they
wanted
the
participating
jurisdictions
to
specify
what
participating
jurisdictions
wanted
to
use.
So
state
and
local
code
is
clearly
acceptable
for
meeting
HUD
Rehabilitation
standards.
D
However-
and
we
also
wanted
to
have
an
alternative
method
for
being
able
to
do
the
three-
you
know
the
follow-up
inspections,
because
Ira
staff
needs
to
do
that.
D
So
in
the
case
that,
for
example,
the
unit
has
not
been
inspected
in
the
year
that
we
need
to
do
the
inspections
by
the
department
of
you
know
building,
then
this
resolution
is
basically
saying
that
we
will
use
housing
quality
standards
to
for
me
to
go
out
and
inspect
the
units,
so
either
method
is
acceptable,
but
we
want
to
have
two
methods
to
be
able
to
do
it
in
case
you
know
we,
the
the
building
department,
has
not
inspected
those
units
in
the
same
year
that
they
come
up
and
need
to
be
inspected.
D
If
that
makes
sense,
if
they
have
inspected
them,
then
we
can
use
that
as
our
documentation
for
them
having
been
inspected
and
or
any
corrections
needing
to
be
made
will
be
documented
by
the
building
department
and
we'll
follow
up
on
those.
D
A
Steve
so
I
read
through
the
the
proposed
resolutions.
D
Resolution,
well,
that's
a
great
question:
Steve
I
thought
that
you
might
have
a
lot
of
expertise
to
share
with
us
in
this
discussion
and
you're
asking
why
we
included
in
there
the
multiple
residence
law-
yes
well,
I
I
would
think
we
did
because
it
applies
to
multi-family
residences,
am
I
wrong
about
that.
A
No
you're
correct
it's
just
that.
It's
a
standard
that
a
lot
of
inspectors
really
don't
understand.
Okay
and
it's
and
it's
a
retroactive
and
it's
a
retroactive
standard
that
New
York
state
has
had
an
existence
for
quite
a
quite
a
while
and
most
buildings
don't
comply
with
it.
So
you
have
a
standard
in
here
that
may
or
may
not
that
you
that
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
be.
C
A
You
know
you
might
not
be
able
to
say
yes,
that
the
building
complies
with
it.
One
of
one
of
the
features
of
the
New
York
State,
multiple
residents,
so
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
bore.
You
know.
A
Is
your
wheelhouse
yeah
one
of
the
features
of
the
New
York
State
multiple
residence
law
is
that
the
building
is
three
stories
or
more.
The
ceilings
in
the
basement
have
to
be
solid
or
motivational
has
to
be
spread
or
protected.
Okay
and
most
people
when
they
do
Renovations
in
their
own
home
or
when
they
do
Renovations
in
a
building
it
kind
of
destroy
whatever
ceiling,
was
in
the
basement
at
the
time.
As
a
code
officer
I
understood
this,
and
when
I
went
into
doing
an
inspection,
I
was
multi-family
house.
A
It
was
kind
of
onerous
when
I
told
them
that
they
had
to
actually
fix
their
their
ceiling
in
their
basement,
and
it's
not
something
that
I
I
know
for
a
fact
that
a
large
part
number
of
the
people
that
I
worked
with
didn't
really
know
the
law
and
there's
a
large
number
of
people
in
other
inspectors
that
don't
know
the
law,
because
the
state
really
doesn't
update
the
training
on
this
law.
Okay,.
G
A
D
That's
just
my
personal
feeling.
Well,
this
is
very
important.
Information
I
have
Steve,
may
I
ask
you
so
when
so
you
mentioned,
when
rehab
or
construction
has
been
done
on
multifamil
I'm,
sorry,
is
it
multi-family.
A
But
it's
it's
specifically
relates
to
the
building
that
are
three
stories
or
more
okay,
so
most
of
the
college
town,
most
of
the
existing
structures
in
college
town
actually
should
fit
into
this.
This
requirement
anything
at
each
Street
or
above
probably
you
should
fit
into
the
skyline,
but
it
probably
doesn't
Okay
so
was
people
put
in
new
Plumbing
like
they
repair
Plumbing,
they
have
Tendencies
cut
cut
a
hole
in
the
ceiling
in
order
to
get
to
that
pump.
Okay,
they
put
in
new
ductwork.
A
They
have
a
tendency
of
cutting
a
hole
in
the
ceiling
in
the
basement
to
get
to
install
the
new
Blackboard.
Well,
most
contractors,
when
they
do
it,
they
you
know
I,
just
cut
this
whole.
It
makes
it
easy
for
me
to
to
put
in
whatever
I
installed
and
if
I
ever
have
to
come
back,
I'm
not
going
to
fix
it
because
it's
easy
to
get
to
it,
but
the
multiple
residence
law
says
You
must
or
know
they
use
the
word.
You
shall
repair
it.
Okay,
and
that
is
one
of
those
standards
that.
D
Right
well,
this
is
very
important
information
to
have.
This
is
why
we
really
value
your
expertise
and
all
the
different
kinds
of
expertise
that
our
committee
members
bring.
D
So
considering
what
you
said
about
the
state,
not
updating
the
training
on
this
portion,
perhaps
we
should
reevaluate
whether
or
not
we
should
include
this-
that
that
one
requirement
in
our
resolution
I'm
going
to
do
committee
members
want
to
make
a
recommendation
about
how
we
proceed
in
this
matter.
B
D
Well,
the
HUD
does
not.
How
does
not
prescribe
what
exactly
are
the
standards
that
we
use?
So
when
we
put
together
this
resolution,
we
basically
did
the
research,
but
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
and
tried
to
include
any
applicable
state
and
local
guidelines.
D
So
if
your
question
is,
is
HUD
requiring
this.
No,
we
are
trying
to
draw
together
the
information
we
need
to
have
a
standard
that
that
meets
state
and
local
requirements
for
that
portion
of
the
resolution
like
I
said,
and
then
the
housing
quality
standards
are
included
so
that,
if
building
hasn't
inspected
those
units,
then
we
can
go
out
and
we
have
a
format
format,
a
template
by
which
we
can
do
the
inspection.
D
So
this
this
really
has
to
do
with
you
know
our
trying
to
bring
together
whatever
the
necessary
codes,
were
and
specify
what
they
are
in
this
resolution.
But
we
didn't
have
this
background
knowledge
that
Steve
has.
A
Sure,
I
I
personally
think
that
if
you
leave
it
with
just
this
chapter,
210
of
the
city
that
you
already
still
get
the
New
York
State
multiple
residence
law,
because
what
the
city
has
done
with
their
law
is
to
say
any
applicable,
State
and
state
standards
that
and
the
New
York
State.
Multiple
residence
law
is
something
that's
been
on.
The
books
since
I
think
1954.
A
and
it's
never
been
revealed,
but
it
could
at
some
point
be
repealed.
But
who
knows
so?
It
I
think
that
if
you
were
to,
if
my
my
personal
opinion,
if
you
were
to
strike
the
New
York
State
multiple
residence
law
and
leave
it
with
chapters
210
of
the
city
of
Ithaca,
Municipal,
Code,
that
it
covers
both
okay.
D
I
mean
that
seemed
sensible,
because
what
you
know
the
intention
or
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
portion
of
that
has
to
do
with
you
know
if
the
city's
building
an
apartment
were
to
go
out
and
do
the
inspections
is
to
specify
that
their
actions
would
then
meet
meet
the
standards
that
we're
looking
for.
So
if,
as
you're
saying
in
practice
that
it's
very
difficult
to
not
enforce
this
code
but
abide
by
this
code,
then
whatever
the
city's
practices
is
what
we
want
to
be
specifying
what
we're
going
to
do.
D
B
F
The
six
where
I
asked
I'm
reading
and
it
seems
like
it's
missing
a
an
action
time,
whereas
the
city
of
Ithaca
has
a
minimum
housing
standard
or
it
seems
to
be
missing
out
a
word
right.
Yeah.
D
Okay,
we
can
add
you
can
add
that
word
when
also
when
you
make
the
motion
that
that
could
be
included
in
a
revision.
Well,
they
wanna.
E
Seems
to
Executive
with
the
second
next
one
which
just
says
what
the
standards
are.
But.
D
C
D
B
I
have
a
question
regarding.
Excuse
me,
the
resolution
home
funding
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
home
funding
can
be
for
to
support.
B
D
B
Correct
I'm
sorry
I
was
wondering
where
that
noise
came
from
I
thought
it
was
the
owl
or
something
okay.
So
the
inspections,
and
it's
not
every
unit,
it's
a
statistically
significant
sample
that
has
to
be
done
with
the
on
the
every
three
years
schedule.
So
that
would
includes,
for
example,
Founders
way,
yes
or
okay,
so
any
home
assistant.
D
Yeah,
this
is
a
good
point,
so
home
assisted
units
also
include
units
for
which
tibra
tenant-based
rental
assistance
is
provided.
D
So
the
security
deposits
that
IRA
has
funded
over
the
years
through
Catholic
Charities,
that
that
is
home
funding
and
so
the
units
into
which
people
who
have
received
a
security
deposit
are
moving
also
need
to
be
inspected,
and
this
is
why
I
don't
know
if
it's
not
always
well
you'll
see
it
some
years
in
our
action
plan
funding,
we
add
a
small
line
for
inspections
that
Tompkins
Community
Action
is
contracted
to
do
and
they
inspect
the
units
prior
to
somebody
with
a
security
deposit
moving
in.
D
So
that's
also
an
area
of
inspections
that
we
might
not
normally
think
of
because
they
may
not
have.
The
unit
may
not
have
been
built
with
any
home
assistance,
but
because
somebody
living
there
is
receiving
home
assistance,
it
counts
and
that's
how
we
handle
that
type
of
not
that
that
category
of
assistance,
but
in
general,
what
we're
looking
at
or
what
we're
thinking
about
with
this
resolution
is
yes,
any
project
that
has
received
any
amount
of
support
through
home,
the
city's
Hut
entitlement
home
program.
D
So
everything
from
the
large
developments
such
as
Founders
way,
as
you
might
mentioned,
Breckenridge
smaller
projects.
There
are
a
number
of
projects
that
I'm
going
or
there's
a.
D
Vigrious
housing
or
that's
not
the
name
of
it,
it's
vitreous
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
it
might
just
be
LLC
is
a
small
Corporation
here
in
Ithaca
that
owns
I'd,
say
between
10
and
15
units.
They
took
over
these
units
from
another
provider
and
the
house
and
the
affordability
can
period
continues.
They
were
not
the
ones
that
received
the
funding
initially,
but
they
now
own.
D
These
units
that
were
home,
funded,
they're
nearing
the
end
of
their
housing
affordability,
but
they
have
these
units
that
need
to
be
inspected,
so
I've
Set,
the
time
frame
with
them
to
inspect
them
in
February,
and
he,
the
the
owner
of
the
company
who's,
been
very.
D
What's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
a
very
Cooperative
with
setting
up
our
inspections
noted
that,
because
some
of
their
residents
use
housing,
Choice
vouchers
how
housing,
Choice
voucher,
the
unit
is
already
inspected
yearly
to
using
housing
quality
standards
because
of
the
housing
Choice
voucher.
So
he
asked
me,
you
know:
is
there?
Are
you
going
to
be
doing
a
different
inspection
and
I'm
going
to
be
using
the
housing
quality
standards,
inspection?
Which
is
the
same?
D
So
what
we
will
try
to
do
for
landlords
who
are
in
the
situation
is,
we
will
try
to
pursue
a
way
to
have
an
mou
with
its
Pro.
You
know
one
of
the
area:
public
housing
providers,
it's
either
Ithaca
Housing,
Authority
or
Tompkins
Community
Action
to
see
if,
when
they
do
their
yearly
inspection,
we
can
document
that
as
the
housing
inspection
instead
of
inconveniencing
the
residents
and
the
property
manager
twice
for
the
same
inspection,
that
would
be
ideal.
So
we're
going
to
be
looking
into
that.
D
However,
what
are,
and
as
I
explained
to
him-
and
he
seemed
to
understand-
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
is
be
compliant
with
HUD
and
making
sure
that
we
can
document
that
we
I
area
have
done
the
inspections
so
that
that's
kind
of
a
further
step
down
the
line.
But
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
with
to
you
in
this
example,
is
that
some
of
the
units-
Within
These
home,
assisted
buildings-
are
already
inspected
every
year.
D
If
the
person
living
within
that
unit
has
a
housing
Choice
voucher,
so
there
may
be
some
redundancy,
which
is
not
what
we're
intending
to
do.
What
we're
intending
to
do
is
be
on
track
with
Hud's
requirements
for
us,
so
we
will
try
to
minimize
any
redundancy
that
way.
Another
option
if
we're
not
able
to
or
HUD
does
not
want
us
to.
D
You
know
kind
of
create
an
mou
for
a
third
party
to
have
done
the
inspections
for
for
these
home
requirements
is
we
could
try
to
coordinate
with
the
inspectors
that
are
going
out
on
behalf
of
the
public
housing
authorities
and
try
to
do
it
on
the
same
day,
so
I
feel
like
I've
gotten
a
little
off
track
or
into
the
Weeds
about
that
part.
But
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
there
are
various
issues
having
to
do
with
the
inspections.
D
We
want
to
be
able
to
show
how
that
we
are
doing
this
every
three
years
and
because
we
haven't
been
doing
it
during
the
pandemic,
because
there
was
a
waiver
we're
trying
to
have
all
our
ducks
in
a
row
to
have
our
standards
specified.
So
the
head
knows
that
we
are
using
a
particular
plan
to
go
forward
with
these,
something
that
I
meant
to
say
when
I
started
on.
This
was
also
that
the
statistically
valid
sample
is
for
units
for
projects
that
have
over
four
units.
D
E
I'm,
just
gonna
say
that
it
makes
sense
and
I
would
be
surprised
that
if
I
had
a
problem,
if
they
have
housing
standards
for
the
housing,
Trace
Voucher
Program,
that
if
we
were,
if
you
were
to
be
able
to
say
yes,
please
check
that
out
and
then
that
would
be
the
same
as
the
others
right.
So
it
there
must
be
some
common
Municipal
I
mean
that
can't
be
ethical,
specific
issues,
though
there
must
be
some
kind
of
common
way
to
like
apply
that
standard
to
what
we're
talking
about
right,
yeah,.
D
That's
I
mean
we
think
so
I
mean
there's.
There's
some
I
mean
I'm,
never
surprised
one
has
like
nope.
You
can't
do
things,
even
though
it
seems
reasonable
to
do
those
things,
but
I
we
agree
with
you
sham.
We
think
that
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
we
want
to-
or
it
seems
practical
to
adopt
as
the
alternative
method
of
inspection,
these
housing
quality
standards
is
because
it's
a
standard
that
HUD
has
set
it's
a
standard,
that's
in
use
already
in
the
community,
and
it's
very
well.
D
It's
HUD
is
very
familiar
with
that
standard,
and
so
it
does
seem
very
reasonable
that
we
will
be
able
to
request
a
HUD
or
yeah
make
a
request.
I've
had
that
for
any
units
that
already
have
this
inspection
yearly,
that
that
should
satisfy
their
requirement
for
inspection.
E
Being
collegial
municipalities
what
they
did
or
if
they
were
denied
the
ability
to
do
that
just
might
be
kind
of
a
swift
way
to
access
like
that
distribution.
D
Yeah
we
can
reach
out
to
some
of
our.
You
know
some
other
communities
who
are
entitlement,
communities
and
see
if
they
have,
you
know
have
already.
You
know,
settled
this
manner
with
HUD
or
if
they
have
any
other
recommendations
or
comments
or
wisdom
for
us
they
agree.
We
could
do
that.
B
So
a
related
question,
the
inspections
being
done
by
the
agencies
that
provide
housing,
Choice
vouchers,
I
assume
they
use
the
same
inspection
checklist.
B
All
right,
so
that
would
have
been
if
we
could
have
the
mous.
It
would
make
sense
then
that
they
could
be.
We
could
use
their
inspections
to
fulfill
our
requirement.
C
D
That
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
pursue
going
forward.
Again
part
of
the
reason
that
we
wanted
to
have
to
update
our
practices
and
document
it
in
this
resolution
is
because
I
will
be
going
out
in
the
community
to
start
doing
these
inspections
and
it's
kind
of
a
chicken
or
an
egg
thing
we
could
have
pursued
the
you
know
clarification
with
HUD
first
to
get
out
there
and
do
it,
but
we
are
behind
in
doing
our
inspections,
because
of
just
for
a
little
background.
D
Before
before
the
pandemic,
we
had
decided
as
a
staff
that
I
would
take
over
doing
the
inspections
from
Charles
because,
as
you
know,
Charles
has
a
lot
to
do
so
we
were
gearing
up
to
to
do
that
and
the
pandemic
happened.
We've
had
a
waiver
for
three
years,
but
now
our
HUD
rep
has
asked
us
what
our
plans
are
for
getting
back
on
track
and
inspecting
units,
and
so
I
think
the
preferences
for
us
to
start
doing
that
to
show
that
we
are
attempting
to
be
compliant.
B
So
that
was
actually
even
answered.
One
of
the
other
questions
I
had
was
who
on
staff,
would
be
good
at
the
inspections
and
it
sounds
like
you
were
the
one
who
does
it,
but
other
staff
could
do
them
if
necessary.
D
Charles
could
theoretically
anybody
okay.
B
B
Other
questions,
if
if
we
don't
mind
before
moving
on
the
resolution
because
the
inspection
checklist
and
then
there's
another
sheet
with
frequently
asked,
asked
questions
which
I
believe
is
Page
11.,
page
12.,
so
I
wanted
to
since
they're
all
it's
all
related
I
thought
we'd
see
if
there
are
any
questions
about
the
inspection
checklist
so
frequently
asked
questions
prior
to
moving
the
the
resolution.
E
Any
questions
exactly
about
the
infection
checklist,
because
that
is
not
our
review
really
but
I,
just
was
one
thing
I
was
wondering
is
it
seems
to
have
a
like?
Yes,
no,
failed,
past
kind
of
thing
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
like
this
in
practice
and
see.
If
maybe
you
know
that's
the
best
like
you
know,
it
seems
sort
of
like
a
some
of
these
things
are.
H
E
Of
like
exactly
what's
a
yes
and
exactly
what
to
know,
I,
don't
know
this
checklist
provide
you
enough
guidance,
but
anyway
that
I
mean
that
was
my
only
just
like
query,
but
when
the
foreign
itself
seems
basic
and
presumably
if
we
are
following
the
codes
that
we
had
discussed,
then
it
would
be
easy
to
fill
out
this
one.
But
what.
D
Makes
it
be?
Yes,
what
makes
you
know,
where's
the
dividing
line.
I
think
you
bring
up
a
really
interesting
point,
Cheyenne,
because
I
would
say
I'm
a
person
also.
That
is
very
there's
a
lot
of
gray
area
out
there
that
sometimes
I
wonder.
You
know
how
we're
going
to
address
that
we
do
have
an
excellent
resource
within
City
Hall
that
I
expect
I
will
be
Consulting
with
as
often
as
she'll.
Let.
H
D
One
of
our
current
housing
code
inspectors
actually
previously
worked
for
Tompkins
Community
Action
and
was
responsible
for
doing
the
housing
codes.
Quality
inspections.
This
exact
this
exact
form
that
you're
looking
at
she
did
that
on
behalf
of
the
housing
Choice
voucher
program,
the
TC
TCA
operates
and
I
happen
to
know
from
talking
to
her
in
the
past
and
Consulting
with
her
in
the
past.
D
More
generally
about
how
the
two
different
kinds
of
codes
code
inspections
work
is
that
she
even
kind
of
she
went
above
and
beyond
and
did
a
lot
of
extra
training
and
even
bought
some
special
equipment
to
do
to
use
in
her
inspections.
So
she
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
performing
the
housing
quality
standards.
Inspection,
so
I
will
be
she
and
she's
very
generous
with
her
expertise.
D
So
I
will
be
talking
with
her
a
lot
I
think
as
I
move
through
this,
because
I'm
sure
I
will
have
questions
about
how
you
know,
for
example,
if
if
there
is
a
standard
that
is
not
being
met
in
a
particular
unit
and
I
need
to
go
and
reinspect
it,
how
will
I
assure
that
it?
You
know
the
improvements
that
are
made.
Actually,
you
know,
are
compliant
things
like
that.
I
think
she'll
be
a
big
help.
Foreign.
A
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
checklist
is
it's
pretty
basic
and
there
is
foreign
state
has
online
classes
that
you
can
look
at
when
they're
real
easy
to
follow.
You
don't
get
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
credits
or
anything
like
that.
So,
okay,.
D
Yeah
and
again,
I
I
will
say
that
again
part
of
the
reason
that
we
chose
and
want
to
include
an
alternative
method.
D
You
know
in
in
specifying
that
there
are
two
methods
to
be
able
to
meet
the
standards
either
this
the
city's
own
inspection
standards
for
the
housing
quality
standards
is
because
you
know,
obviously
I
don't
I,
do
not
have
the
expertise
that
you
have
Steve
or
that
any
of
our
building
code
inspectors
actually
have
so
I
think
it
would
be
very
hard
for
me
to
try
to
perform
that
kind
of
inspection.
D
D
B
Do
you
know
further
questions
or
discussion
like
to
make
a
motion
to
pass
the
revised
Rehabilitation
standards
of
home
assisted
projects
as
modified
the
modifications
being
on
the
sixth,
whereas
we
change
the
sentence
to
read?
The
city
of
Ithaca
has
adopted
minimum
housing
standards
from
detailed
and
stringent
building
standards
and
we
modify
the
first
result.
A
B
B
D
Yeah
I,
actually,
like
I,
said
we
I
think
it's
February
17th,
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
I'm,
not
sure
you
know,
I,
don't
have
my
calendar
in
front
of
me,
but
yeah
that
I
have
already
I
will
be
inspecting
videos
units
on
that
day,
communicated
with
the
company
and,
like
I,
said,
they've
been
very
accommodating.
D
D
If
we
could,
you
know,
they're
very
willing
to
be
inspected.
You
know
to
comply
with
us
and
in
fact,
as
you
know,
as
I
just
said,
they
already
go
through
a
lot
of
inspections
because
of
the
housing
Trace
voucher,
inspection
that's
needed,
however,
because
they
were
so
short
staffed
at
that
time.
D
Last
summer
she
asked
for
at
least
three
months
of
you
know,
kind
of,
and
not
thinking
of
the
right
word
dispensation
for
us
to
wait
to
be
able
to
do
that,
while
they
onboarded
their
new
Property
Management
staff
there,
their
director
of
property
management
just
left,
so
I
will
re-contact
her
now,
I
decided
to
start
with
other
providers
and
I
will
re-contact
them
now.
Another
another
thing
that
we've
considered
and
what
we
think
would
be
most
beneficial
is
to
be
able
to
do
the
inspections.
D
During
warmer
months
of
the
year
you
know
I,
don't
we
were
trying
to
work
out
how
to
handle
the
fact
that
you
know
we
would
be
entering
units
and
people
might
be
feeling
vulnerable
because
of
you
know
pandemic
and
wanting
to
have
caution,
and
so
we
felt
that
for
people
to
be
able
to
more
easily
either
leave
their
unit,
but
not
be
so
inconvenient,
so
they
had
to
go
somewhere
else.
They
could
be
outside
or
open
their
windows
or
whatever
we
thought
we,
you
know
we
were
trying
to
do.
D
The
inspections
during
the
summer
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
last
year,
but
that
was
difficult
to
achieve
so
we're
starting
in
the
winter.
Now,
if
we
receive
any
comments
from
residents
or
property
managers
that
people
are
concerned
for
pandemic
reasons,
of
course,
we
will
work
to
accommodate
them
by
inspecting
at
another
time,
that's
more
convenient
for
them.
B
All
right,
thanks
Denise
next
item
in
business,
any
Committee,
Member
updates
I,
have
not
heard
anything.
Have
you
heard
anything
no
I
haven't
all
right,
so
I
I
had
meant
to
do
this
and
I
apologize.
I
need
to
reach
out
to
Chris.
Prue
Chris
is
the
chairperson
of
the
IRA
board
and
ask
him
if
he's
had
any
discussions
or
any
applications
have
been
received.
D
I
will
say
that
I
did
check
with
the
city
clerk
Julie
Conley
before
she
retired
just
before,
to
see
if
any
other
Applications
had
come
in
and
at
that
time.
No,
but
that
was
back
at
the
end
of
November.
So
I
will
check
with
the
city
clerk's
office
as
well
to
see
if
it's
to
see
if
we've
received
any
okay
thanks.
B
All
right,
the
next
on
the
agenda
is
the
grants
summary,
which
is
toward
the
end
of
origin,
is
on
page
13.
G
B
One
of
the
things
I
noted
in
this
will
come
up
probably
or
will
be
on
our
agenda
I
think,
probably
next
month,
when
we
get
the
applications
for
the
2823
funding
round,
is
we
will
I'm
sure
get
some
applications
for
some
of
the
folks
that
we've
been
planning
in
the
past
I'm
thinking
in
particular
of
GX
HTTP
program,
and
you
will
know
that
they
have
some
funds
that
have
not
been
spent
yet,
but
we
expended
so
I
think
that'll
inform
our
discussion
as
to
if
they
put
in
duping
an
application
for
in
this
round.
B
D
Projects
and
I
think
that's.
You
know.
We've
talked
at
length
in
this
committee
about
how
you
know
a
pandemic
has
really
disrupted
a
lot
of
projects,
their
ability
to
spend
down,
but,
as
Carl
is
ever
Vigilant
about
IRA,
and
this
you
know
in
the
city
is
required
by
Hud
to
meet
a
specific
spend
down
ratio,
and
so
this
and
HUD
does
not
encourage
communities
or
projects
to
Bank
the
funds
for
multiple
years.
That's
why
they
have
the
spend
down
requirement.
D
So,
while,
for
example,
there
are
many
projects
that
haven't
implemented
their
2022
funding,
what
is
very
necessary
for
this
committee
and
all
of
Ira
to
be
vigilant
about
is
the
fact
that
any
any
funds
that
remain
unexpended
could
jeopardize
our
ability
to
I
mean
how
will
claw
back
whatever
is
over
the
spend
down
ratio.
So
we
we
do
need
to
be
very
careful
about
allocations
to
ensure
that
they
don't
linger
for
longer
than
necessary.
E
I
had
two
questions
about
this.
Since
we
have
replying
one
is,
let's
say
an
organization
has
well
actually
the
first
question:
is
the
target
spend
down
percentage?
Probably
matters
not
just
that
there
is
some
unspent
funds
like,
for
example,
in
that
Greek
example.
It's
just
one
percent
of
the
funds
that
have
not
yet
been
spent.
So
is
there
like
a
threshold
for
the
percentage
of
the
outstanding.
E
Spending
that
was
one
question
and
then
the
other
question
is
because
of
the
covet
specific
projects.
E
C
D
What's
really
helpful
for
me
and
when
I
look
at
the
grant
summary
and
seeing
you
know
what
percentage
has
been
spent
down
and
what
per
project
and
how
much
they
have
left
is
it
helps
me
is
not
fully
understand,
get
an
idea
of
how
the
project
is
being
implemented
like
if
they
have
had
a
lot
of
balance
on
their
project
for
a
long
time
and
have
not
vouchered.
That,
for
me,
causes
me
to
question,
and
you
know:
I,
don't
I
don't
mean
question.
D
It
causes
me
to
have
some
insights,
but
I
probably
need
to
check
in
with
this
project.
To
find
out.
Are
they
stalled?
Are
they
not
able
to
implement
the
project
for
some
reason,
or
is
it
that
they
recruit
expenses
and
they
haven't
had
time
to
voucher
yet
because
those
are
two
different
things,
but
what
I
would
say
is
either
either
funding
stream
either
cdbj
or
CV?
If
there
are
unspent
funds,
that's
an
indicator
to
me
and
I
mean
I,
guess
I'm
suggesting
it
could
be
an
indicator
to
you
as
well.
D
That,
perhaps
you
know
we
questions
need
to
be
asked
like
you
know
what
what
are
the
barriers
that
the
project
is
experiencing
from
being
able
to
spend
down
in
a
more
regular
way,
because
that
tells
us
more
about
you
know
kind
of
how
realistic
their
project
is.
D
What
current
circumstances
are
facing
that
is
making
you
know
the
project
either.
You
know
not
seen
to
move
forward,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
would
say.
I
would
consider
both
of
both
of
those
categories
with
looking
at
you
know,
projects
if
they're
coming
forward
for
funding
like
you
know
both
are
indicators.
Yes,
cdbg
ceb
is
a
is
a
special
category,
but
it's
still
it's
you
know
very,
very
similar
to
cdbg,
so
it's
still
an
indicator
of
kind
of
how
they're
managing
that
type
of
program
compliance.
E
B
I'll,
add
in
to
that
I
would
look
at
the
the
projects
and
because
they
can
be
really
dissimilar,
so
an
organization
might
have
a
blacklist
CD
on
the
covert
related
funds
to
you
know,
help
us,
clients
mitigate
and
prevent
infection,
and
then
they
may
apply
again
for
repairs
to
an
office
or
exterior
painting
or
something
so
you
know
two
really
different
projects,
so
I
would
look
at
that
too,
though,
I
would
also
wonder
if
they
did
not
handle
this
one
particular
project
they
got
funding
for.
D
Cheyenne
I'm,
sorry,
you
had
two
questions
and
I
only
answered
one.
Oh.
E
D
Well,
yeah
you're,
exactly
right.
I
on
the
grant
summary
I
think
inhs
has
a
couple
of
one
percent
left
in
there.
That
usually
has
to
do
with
sort
of
back-end
administrative
reasons
it's
like
when
the
project
finally
closes.
They
usually
they
submit
their
final
voucher
and
that's
because
and
Charles
could
explain
this
better
than
I,
but
Hud's
information
disbursement
system
Idis.
D
Well,
it
just
has
its
own,
like
projects
that
have
appeared
to
be
inactive
for
a
certain
number
of
months,
but
have
not
been
closed,
will
be
flagged
so
for
housing
projects
in
particular,
there's
extremely
long
timelines
associated
with
construction
and,
like
you
know,
from
the
initiating
it
to
closing
it
out
so
that
you
you
know,
inhs
has
worked
with
us
to
basically
be
able
to
reserve
a
small
amount
to
put
in
at
the
end
to
be
the
completing
voucher.
That's
why
and
if
we
need
more
information
on
that.
D
Charles
can
give
me
that,
but,
for
example,
other
you
know
other
projects
that
I've
been
looking
at,
for
example,
because,
as
the
you
know
longer
time,
committee
members
know
that
we
have.
D
You
know
many
organizations
that
come
forward
to
us
dearly
to
reapply
for
funding,
and
you
know
in
the
past
maybe
had
a
great
record
of
spend
down,
but
I'm
I'm
noticing,
for
example,
that
historic,
Ithaca
and
I
have
to
say
it's
like
confusing,
even
for
staff,
because
there's
just
so
many
years
ongoing.
You
know
that
that
we're
still
looking
at
past
years
for
things
that
we
didn't
normally
have
this
volume
of
contracts
that
we
were
tracking
before
the
pandemic.
D
Things
would
like
flow
down
on
a
Court
kind
of
more
regular
way,
but
I
think
as
if
you
look
at
2021
historic
Ithaca
work,
Preserve
the
project
number
15
in
2021
they're
only
at
41
of
spend
down
so.
D
I
know
that,
like
all
other
Workforce
Development
projects
are
three
Workforce
Development
projects,
HTTP
historic,
ithaca's,
work,
preserve
and
ithacare
use
have
really
encountered
specific
difficulties
related
to
the
pandemic
that
we've
discussed
previously,
but
I
might
have
been
before
you
joined
the
committee
Cheyenne.
So
you
know,
ironically,
or
not.
That's
not
the
right
word
but
kind
of.
D
Paradoxically,
when
we're
seeing
rise
in
wages,
which
is
very
good
for
entry-level
workers,
Workforce
Development
programs
actually
see
a
decline
in
enrollment
and
part
of
the
reason
is
that
and
there's
also
an
abundance
of
jobs
right
now,
unemployment
is
very
low,
so
people
can,
you
know,
get
entry-level
jobs
fairly
easily.
They
might
also
lose
entry-level
jobs
fairly
easily,
whether
because
those
jobs
are
just
very
hard
to
maintain,
because
the
types
of
scheduling
that's
expected
or
things
like
that
or
because
of
you-
know
some
skills
or
Readiness
that
aren't
there.
D
How
so
for
Workforce
Development
projects
that
offer
stipends
and
or
in
internships
and
things
like
that,
when
unemployment
is
high,
they
tend
to
have
a
higher
enrollment,
because
you
know
people
have
let
much
less
ready
opportunity
out
there
and
you
know,
are
more
inclined
to
see
the
the
internships
and
the
stipends
as
an
incentive
for
participating
in
the
project
right
now.
That's
not
how
it
is,
there's
an
abundance
of
entry-level
jobs
that
pay
more
than
they
have
in
the
past.
D
So
these
organizations,
all
three
of
them
historic,
Ithaca,
giac,
hatp
and
reuse-
have
needed
to
kind
of
re-consider
how
they're,
how
they're
doing
their
recruitment,
how
they're
enrolling
how
they're
reaching
out
so
all
of
them
are
having
that
situation,
but
I
do
see
that,
in
addition
to
you
know,
HTC
spending
down,
slowly
so
is
historic.
Ithaca
I
mean
I
met
with
their
new
program
staff
person,
the
program
staff
person
who's
now
responsible.
D
He
had
worked
with
in
doing
other
things
that
historic
Ithaca
before
Sarah
left,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
be
meeting
today
or
tomorrow,
to
discuss
to
kind
of
do
a
retraining
on
how
to
do
the
quarterly
reports
that
are
required
by
us
and
how
to
submit
vouchers,
because
it's
hard
to
know
have
they
really
not
spent
over.
You
know
50
of
their
funding,
or
do
they
have
vouchers
sitting
waiting
to
be
reimbursed.
D
So
we
need
to
understand
more
for
them,
but
that's
another
organization
that
I
have
my
eye
on,
because,
if
they're
planning
on
reapplying
for
the
same
amount,
but
they
have
a
lot
already
still
on
their
on
the
books,
why
do
they?
What
will
they
be
saying
as
far
as
why
they
still
need
that
same
amount
of
money
right.
E
D
For
and
for
example,
for
some
of
these,
the
urban
bus
stops
upgrade
project
they
have
applied
for
a
an
extension.
Their
reason
for
not
being
able
to
spend
down
is
supply
chain.
The
supplier
did
not
have
the
items
that
they
needed
at
once
and
because
of
issues
of
scale,
they
need
to
make
an
order
all
at
once
so
and
most
construction
or
installation
projects
that
happen
Outdoors
need
to
happen
in
good
weather.
So
that
is
the
reason
that
that
they
haven't
spent
down.
D
That
seems
very,
like
a
very
concrete
reason:
I'm
not
making
any
recommendations
here,
I'm
just
saying
some
of
the
things
I
think
about
when
I'm
reaching
out
to
them
and
we
have
had,
and
similarly
it's
like
a
community
gardens
they're
the
provider
that
they
contracted
with
to
build
the
shed
was
not
able,
because
of
supply
chain
reasons
to
get
the
shed
built
last
summer.
So
now
they're
going
to
have
to
wait
until
this
summer
to
implement
it.
D
So
those
are
some
pandemic
related
reason,
other
reasons
that
some
projects
have
not
been
able
to
complete.
B
D
That
and
I
also
just
want
to
point
out.
This
might
be
a
good
time
to
to
mention
again
that
the
volume
of
contracts
that
we
have
to
create
because
we
generally
fund
many
projects
on
each
action
plan
year.
D
In
fact,
in
years
where
we've
funded,
say
18
rather
than
21.,
you
know,
I've
been
asked,
sometimes
like.
Why
didn't
we
get
more
applications
to
consider?
Like
you
know,
I
I
really
think
that
IRA
and
city
of
Ithaca,
unlike
some
other
entitlement,
communities
that
might
be
our
size
generally
funds,
quite
a
variety
of
projects
and
quite
a
number
of
projects,
some
entitlement
communities.
D
Really
you
know
that
I've
explored
you
know
by
looking
at
you
know
and
the
internet
kind
of
like
you
know
what
is
well
Washington
doing
with
their
entitlement
funds
they're
about
they're,
on
college
towns
to
learn
size
to
us
and
what
I
found
is
for
their
cdpg
entitlement
programs.
They
basically
fund
about
three
projects.
Each
year
they
have
standing
projects,
it's
like
a
lighting,
Alleyway
lighting
project
and
I
forget
what
their
other
two
were.
I,
don't
think
that's
a
roofing
project,
but
some
communities
handle
their
allocations
much
differently.
D
They
kind
of
have
standing
programs
that
are
probably
much
easier
for
them
to
Monitor
and
re-implement
every
year,
and
they
they
basically
have
vendors
who
apply
to
those.
We
do
it
much
differently
so
because
we
have
so
many
projects
that
were
developing
contracts
for
monitoring
Charles
also
develops
contracts
for
other
things.
That
Ira
does
you
know
you
can
think
of
the
the
fire
station
or
loans
that
you
know
are
given
out.
D
All
of
those
things
are
are
contracts
that
Charles
needs
to
develop,
and
so
you
know
the
very
slow
nature
of
Hud
releasing
its
funds.
These
days
with,
you
know,
budgets
getting
tied
up
in
Congress
for
a
lot
longer
than
they
used
to,
and
also
the
number
of
contracts
that
are
very
small
staff
has
to
create,
really
does
create.
D
You
know
it
jams
up
the
pipeline,
so
that's
also
part
of
the
reason
that
some
of
the
2022
projects
haven't
been
able
to
implement.
Is
they
either
don't
have
their
product
their
contract
yet
or
they
received
it
very
recently.
B
So
to
the
projects
of
the
ones
that
are
listed
as
no,
in
other
words,
not
being
in
compliance
with
the
the
spending
we've
discussed
previously
on
the
farmer's
market
in
our
last
meeting,
I
think
it
was
our
last
meeting
and
you
can
see
there's
still
almost
sixteen
thousand
dollars
instead
there
and
then
the
Center
for
Community
Transportation.
We
already
know
that
you
know
twelve
thousand
two
hundred
dollars.
They
never
were
able
to
get
their
project
off
the
ground.
B
Housing
scholarship
program
and
I
I've
had
some
personnel
and
the
executive
director
level
turnover
do
they
currently
have
an
executive
director
as
Olin
Max?
Still
there.
D
Yes,
he's
still
there.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
they
also
had
turnover
at
the
next
level
down
Rick
Alvord,
who
had
been
at
the
learning
web
for
many
years.
I
was
I
think
it
was
over
10
years
and
had
worked
in
a
variety
of
different
capacities
there,
but
had
been
I,
don't
know
if
they'd,
given
them
a
title
of
acting
executive
director,
but
he
was
operations
manager
while
they
were
doing
the
search
for
the
executive
director
he's
recently
left
to
go
to
the
Tompkins
County
Youth
Services
Department.
D
So
and
not
they
also,
you
might
recall
we,
this
committee
reviewed
and
adopted
the
updated
tibra
tenant-based
rental
assistance
guide
book
that
learning
web
will
need
yeah
they're
going
to
the
updated
guidelines
so
that
we
could
be
more.
We
were
aware
of
that.
We
needed
to
be
more
compliant
with
some
some
of
Hud's
requirements.
D
D
That
I
I
have
I,
do
not
know
where
they
are
and
they're
being
able
to
implement
those
changes
and
when
I
reached
out
recently
to
ask
if
they
were
intending
to
be
able
to
voucher
anytime
soon,
I
didn't
receive
a
response
back,
but
that's
another
example
of
an
agency
that
experienced
a
lot
of
turnover
and
also
there
were
other
changes
where
we're
asking
them
to
basically
have
a
higher
level
of
compliance.
D
So
that's
slowed
them
down,
but
they
now
have.
You
know
they
now
have
gone
many
months
without
being
able
to
show
the
kind
of
progress
that
we
might
have
expected
in
the
past.
A
D
We
already
have
okay,
so
their
their
projects.
Their
contract
actually
ended
on
December
31st,
so
quarterly
reports
and
final
reports
are
due
on
the
15th
of
the
following
month
of
the
quarter
end.
So
that's
a
couple
days
from
now,
so
we
should
be
hearing
from
them
then,
but
I
did
send
out
a
closeout
menu
memo
to
them
in
December.
B
No
further
questions
yeah,
oh
and
no-
and
this
may
be
saying
the
obvious,
but
the
money
is
not
given
to
them,
so
they
voucher
and
then
they're
reimbursed.
It's.
D
I
will
say
that
all
of
this
I'm
not
sure
if
I
mentioned
it
at
the
last
meeting,
but
because
we've
been
seeing
so
much
turnover
because
you
know
I
think
that
you
give
the
example
that
we
saw
of
Ithaca
Farmers
Market,
where
you
know
the
the
project
kind
of
ran
into
a
lot
of
difficulties
because
those
who
were
involved
in
creating
the
application,
who
was
you
know,
Monica,
who
you
met,
but
also
their
former
executive
director.
D
If
you
since
left
once
they
received
the
contract,
you
know
it
was
left
to
staff
to
implement
it's
unclear
how
much
guidance,
maybe
people
who
are
on
the
program
end
are
getting
when
there's
new
contracts
to
implement
not
just
at
it's
got
Farmers
Market
I'm,
just
using
them
as
an
example,
but
it's
really
caused
me
and
Charles
to
rethink
and
talk
about
how
we
might
want
to
expand
the
orientation
that
we
do
with
each
organization
when
their
contract
is
ready.
Generally
in
the
past
we've
kind
of
gone
over.
D
Just
you
know,
high
level
gone
over
the
the
contract
explained
and
shown
them.
Our
quarterly
report,
forms
and
bathroom
forms
and
talked
about
when
they're.
Due
and
I'm
just
finding
that
so
many
projects
are
struggling,
you
know
in
the
like
I
said
old
friends
as
as
Carl
sometimes
calls
them
our
organizations
that
have
been
with
us
for
many
years
or
suddenly,
maybe
falling
behind
in
their
in
their
reporting,
not
just
their
vouchering,
but
their
reporting,
which
is
rather
unusual,
so
I
have
decided.
D
You
know,
I've
made
a
bullet
list
of
things
that
I
want
to
talk
to
program
staff
about
they
should
have
access
to
the
contract.
They
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
cover
sheet
that
Charles
is
very
helpfully
created
for
them,
which
tells
them
when
the
contract
expires.
You
know,
gives
them
some
Basics
where
to
look
in
the
contract,
for
what
the
deliverables
are,
and
things
like
that,
so
that
they
too
can
put
on
their
calendar.
When
you
know
they
need
to
be
vigilant
about
asking
for
an
an
extension.
D
I've
started,
sending
courtesy
reminders
this
year
to
all
of
our
contracted
Partners,
to
remind
them
when
our
quarterly
reports
and
things
are
due
with
also
reminders
to
how
and
when
they
can
voucher
and
thinking
about
extensions.
These
quarterly,
or
these
courtesy
reminders,
I,
feel
kind
of
conflicted
about
them,
because
I'm
not
sure
how
helpful
they
are.
I
still
had
to
reach
out
personally
to
some
of
our
organizations
that
need
extensions
because
they
just
I
don't
know
they
just
didn't,
seem
aware
that
their
contract
was
ending
and
what
they
might
need
to
do.
D
Even
though
they've
been
now
receiving.
These
courtesy
reminders
so
I
think
on
the
front
end,
even
with
organizations
that
have
had
funding
from
us
before
because
of
the
turnover
and
things
like
that,
we
need
to
do
a
lot
more
work
with
them
on
the
front
end,
so
that
perhaps
we
will
be
able
to
not
have
to
reach
out
as
much
that
we
can
maybe
go
back
to
a
standard
of
expecting
them
to
be
proactive
in
their
reporting
and
requests
of
us.
B
D
Yeah
I
think
that
a
lot
of
what
happens
is
yes,
the
the
applications
might
be
written
by
a
different
group
of
people
within
the
organization
that
are
doing
the
implementation
and
I
think
it
can
be.
You
know,
for
many
reasons:
I
I
don't
want
to
be
blaming
any
of
our
organizations.
I
think
that
we,
you
know,
hire
a
board
and
committees
are
very
careful
about
selecting
applicants
who
seem
very
ready
and
have
the
capacity
to
carry
out
these
programs.
D
It's
just
it's
been
very
tumultuous,
and
hopefully
you
know
we'll
see
we'll
see
our
organizations
getting
back
on
track,
but
something
to
consider
is
I
know
that
IRA
has
always
really
valued
providing
entitlement
funding
to
as
many
organizations
as
possible
and
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
I
think
a
lot
of
organizations
are
really
experiencing
and
constrictive
capacity
that
they
didn't
have
in
the
past,
and
we
also
were
experiencing
that.
D
We
also
are
experiencing
capacity
issues
so,
while
I
do
not
and
I
don't
want
to
be
perceived
as
recommending
something
over
anything
in
particular,
but
I
think
it's
useful
when
reviewing
the
applications
that
we
get.
You
know
also
thinking
about
you
know,
might
it
be?
Is
there
a
value
in
spreading
the
money
out
as
widely
as
possible,
or
is
there
a
value
of
perhaps
you
know
once
in
a
while
kind
of
rethinking
that
and
seeing
if
there
are
particular
organizations
that
you
know
might
need
deeper
funding
so.
D
Staff
report
I
have
posted
to
the
to
our
website
and
also
to
the
Human
Services
list
serve
and
reached
out
to
some
of
our
partners.
A
brief
survey.
Community
survey
related
to
home
Erp.
D
We've
talked
about
this
in
in
previous
meetings
that
we
need
to
have
our
home
ARP
allocation
plan
in
by
March
31st
had
decided
that
on
October
31st
that
you
know
previously,
we
had
they
were
accepting
him
on
a
rolling
basis
and
we
had
10
years
to
spend
on
the
funds,
but
now
they
want
the
the
framework
allocation
plan
on
the
31st
and
there's
a
large
duty
of
consultation
with
this
work.
Rightly
so.
D
So
one
of
the
ways
that
we
are
trying
to
understand
the
community
and
Landscape
is
by
doing
this
survey
brief
survey.
It's
about
14
questions,
I
think
they
are
very
HUD
specific
questions.
These
are
questions
that
we're
asking
the
community
about
which
you
know
groups
of
people.
Are
they
seeing
perhaps
having
the
highest
unmet,
need
for
housing
or
shelter
in
the
community
and
asking
some
questions
also
like
actually
one
of
the
questions
that
is
posed
is.
Would
you
rather
see
the
the
city
fund?
D
Many
projects
at
lower
levels
or
fewer
projects
at
deeper
funding
levels,
and
so
far
the
responses
have
been
they'd
like
to
see
fewer
projects
get
more
money.
This
is
not
to
say
that
we
have
to
do
this.
It's
just
something
that
we're
interested
in
hearing
from
especially
service
providers,
and
those
that
you
know
are
familiar
with
our
City's
conditions
for
unhoused
people,
what
their
thoughts
are,
and
we
base
a
survey
on
some
surveys
that
we
read
that
other
communities
did
were
providing
in
that
survey.
D
The
ability
for
organizations
to
let
us
know
whether
they're
considering
they
would
consider
applying
for
home
ARP
and
if
they
want
to
set
up
technical
assistance
with
us.
So
that's
on
our
website
and
I'll
send
out
that
link
after
we're
done,
because
it
occurs
to
me
that
this
this
group
has
quite
a
lot
of
knowledge
and
information
about
homelessness
and
housing,
and
perhaps
you
would
like
to
participate
in
the
survey
as
a
community
member
and
we've
also
encouraged
the
service
providers
that
we've
contacted
to
share
that
survey
widely.
D
One
does
not
need
to
be
a
service
provider
to
be
able
to
participate
in
the
survey.
There's
you
know
we
ask
people
to
kind
of
identify
what
their
interest
is
if
they
want
to,
but
any
Community
member
can
fill
out
that
survey
last
time.
I
checked
we
had
upwards
of
70
responses,
I
think,
but
that
was
a
few
days
ago.
D
So
that's
that's,
live
and
I'll
probably
be
the
needing
to
close
that
out
within
the
next
couple
weeks
since
I
have
you
here,
I
thought
it
might
be
useful
to
just
give
an
overview
or
a
little
bit
of
background
about
something
that
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
at
your
next
meeting,
which
is
every
year.
Organizations
within
the
community
can
apply
to
be
a
community-based
development
organization
cbdo.
So
Carl
and
Fernando
have
seen
these
applications
many
times
we
have
four
cbdos
in
the
community
who
normally
recertify
every
year.
That's
inhs.
D
They
use
the
cbdo
to
do
Energy
Efficiency
and
let
me
back
up
the
community-based
development
organization
status,
allows
non-profits
financially
even
for-profits
that
we've
never
had
a
for
profit
applicant
to
pursue
Special
Economic
Development
activities
that
they
might
not
be
able
to
or
would
not
be
able
to
do
without
the
certification
and
those
are
neighborhood.
Revitalization,
Energy
Efficiency
and
economic
development,
so
three
of
our
certified
cbdos
do
you
use
it
for
economic
development
purposes?
D
That's
Jack,
Inc
for
http
historic
Ithaca
for
his
work,
Preserve
program,
the
placements
job
placements,
part
of
it
and
reuse
fingerly
through
use
as
normally
applied
for
they.
They
often
change
kind
of
the
focus
of
their
Workforce
Development
program
yearly,
but
they
usually
apply
for
support.
D
Two
of
the
three
for
sure
I
know
are
applying
again
this
year,
reuse
so
that
they
will
probably
make
an
application.
So
in
order
to
be
able
to
receive
an
elevated
amount
of
funding,
something
that
takes
them
out
of
the
Public
Services
category
and
puts
them
in
the
economic
development.
Category
of
these
organizations
need
to
have
this
certification
and
community-based
development
organization
is
looking
for
organ.
D
That
would
be
like
a
very
specific
thing,
with
some,
some
organizations
stayed
in
their
mission,
so
you
might
think
that
that
would
meet
a
threshold,
but
the
the
qualifying
self-certifications
for
the
board
members
are
not
that
easy
to
meet,
because
if
and
you'll
see
when
you
get
get
the
forms
but
the
low
to
moderate
income,
members
of
the
board
must
live
in
the
city
of
Ithaca.
D
So,
as
we
know
it's
more
difficult
for
low
to
moderate
income
people
to
continue
living
in
Ithaca,
but
if
they
live
in
the
county,
they
cannot
be
certified
for
the
purposes
of
this
of
this
designation
community-based
development
organization,
because
HUD
really
sees
it
as
a
site-specific
type
of
organization
that
is
specifically
centered
in
the
participating
jurisdictions,
service
area
and
drawing
from
that
jurisdiction.
People
who
are
experts
for
their
community.
D
So
all
of
this
is
to
say
that
it
has
been
several
years
since
we've
had
any
new
applicants
to
the
community-based
development
organization
pool
this
year.
We've
had
a
new
one
black
hands
Universal.
They
started
working
on
their
application
in
October,
I
believe
and
they
we've
been
working
together
and
they've
finalized
their
application.
Now
so
I
have
analyzed
it
and
you
will
be
seeing
a
memo
about.
D
You
know
kind
of
the
findings
of
that
to
consider
the
next
time
you
meet
and
they
are
creating
an
application
to
the
they're
creating
an
application
this
year.
D
It's
unclear
whether
or
not
they
will
need
the
community
based
development
organization's
designation
to
fulfill
the
project
they're
applying
for,
but
the
part
of
the
reason
that
they
want
to
work
on
this
now
is
because
they
have
a
bigger
vision
around
creating
new
housing
for
people
around
creating
variety
of
types
of
Workforce
training
and
placement
opportunities
and
other
things
that
eventually
will
require
them
to
have
the
certification
so
I
wish.
D
D
E
D
B
And
right,
one
of
the
reasons
was
we
had
hoped
to
to
discuss
the
black
hands
Universal
community-based,
community-based
development
organization
application
today
and
as
as
Anisa
said,
ideally,
it
would
be
before
the
end
of
the
month
in
case
they
applied
for
something
under
that
designation
through
the
funding
round
the
2023
so
before
we
started
deliberations
next
month
and
plus
the
applications
for
the
funding
around
have
to
be
in
at
the
end
of
this
this
month.
B
So
so
I
and
he
said-
I
talked
about
it.
It
was
kind
of
I,
don't
think,
really
necessary
for
us
to
to
review
that
application
prior
to
the
end
of
the
month.
I
think
we
can
review
it
at
our
February
meeting.
B
D
Well,
I
I
would
I
think
two
things.
One
is
because
there
are
new,
are
our
existing
cbdos,
the
four
that
I
mentioned,
infs
reused,
HTTP,
ERG,
Inc
and
historic
Ithaca.
They
also.
This
is
an
annual
process
that
organizations
have
to
go
through
each
year
and
get
if
they've
been
certified
in
the
past.
They
have
to
re-certify
each
year.
It's
not
as
though
their
designation
lets
them
go
three
years
or
five
years
or
even
two
years.
It's
an
annual
thing
and
I
will
say
for
any
organization,
even
one.
D
D
D
In
after
they
apply
for
their
their
funding,
but
we
do
try
to
get
everybody
re-certified
before
they
receive
any.
You
know
before
the
IRA
board
makes
their
decisions
about,
and
recommendations
for
for
funding,
because
some
projects
require
a
cbdo
that
the
organization
have
a
cpdo
to
receive
the
the
funding
that
they've
applied.
For
so
we've
had
that
practice
with
our
existing
organizations.
This
is
the
first
time
in
a
long
time
that
we've
had
first
time
since
I've,
been
here
that
we've
had
a
new
organization
applying.
D
Therefore,
when
we
were
thinking
this
through
in
the
fall.
This
is
why
I
worked
with
the
executive
or
the
CEO
of
black
hands
Universal
to
get
their
their
application
in
early
so
that
before
they
applied,
they
would
now
and
pop
you
know,
perhaps,
as
importantly
or
more
importantly,
the
IRA
board
would
know
whether
they
met
the
threshold
criteria
so
that
if
they
had
a
project
that
required
them
to
have
a
cbdo
IRA
board
would
know
that
before
they
were
making
recommendations
regarding
their
application.
That
would
be
ideal.
D
So
long
story
short
I
think
it
would
have
been
ideal
if
we
could
have
considered
the
application
today
or,
and
that's
not
their
fault
if
they
were
not
able
to
to
be
able
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you
know
or
to
pass
the
resolution.
If
you
adopted
it
saying
that
they
could
be
certified
to
Ira
for
their
January
meeting
doesn't
seem
like
that's
going
to
be
possible
unless,
unless
there's
another
meeting
set
yeah.
B
D
Possible
I
mean
they'll
be
considered
the
same
time
as
the
other.
Other
organizations
are.
B
So
wouldn't
be
preferable
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
try
to
schedule
another
meeting
this
month,
specifically
for
the
purpose
to
review
their
application.
D
I
think
it
that
would
be
the
most
ideal
situation,
but
I
also
understand
that
the
you
know
it
might
not
be
possible.
I
haven't
talked
to
Knowles,
one
thought
I
had
is.
Perhaps
the
government
governance
committee
could
review
the
application
and
recommend
it
to
Ira
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
an
ideal
solution,
one
is
I.
Think
governance
is
actually
meeting
after
our
area
this
this
month,
so
that
wouldn't
work,
but
also
they
don't
have
the
expertise
that
neighborhood
investment
has.
They
have
a
lot
of
expertise.
B
B
Yeah,
so
what
I
just
wanted
to
establish
was
if
it
could
wait
till
February,
or
should
you
really
try
to
get
get
this
application
reviewed
prior
to
the
end
of
this
month
and
if
we're
able
to
get
it
if
we're
able
to
schedule
and
get
it
done
practiced
the
end
of
the
month,
I
think
we
should
try
to
do
that.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
the
Ira
board
meeting
for
January
is
on
the
26th
Thursday,
the
26th.
B
F
D
D
So
I
do
think
the
week
before
the
meeting
or
even
I
mean
the
package
could
be
amended
if
you
meet
on
Monday
before
or
something
like
that,
I
do
have
the
analysis
memo
ready
now,
I
can
they're
yeah,
not
just
the
equipment
issue,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
have
all
the
application
pieces
that
you
might
want
to
have
which
you
get
because
they're
a
first
time
applicant,
you
might
want
to
see
many
more
pieces
of
their
application
than
or
research
Fighters
do
so
it
would
be
a
lot
of
pages
to
review,
but
I
do
believe.
F
B
D
I
could
do
a
doodle
poll,
so
everybody
could
kind
of
fill
in
their
availability.
It.
D
I
know
that
I
just
want
to
put
out
there
that,
though,
we
normally
meet
at
8
30
in
the
morning
on
Tuesday
Friday,
and
that
was
Thursday
by
the
way.
Welcome
to
your
your
new
meeting
meeting
day
Thursdays,
you
very
recently
even
met
at
a
different
time
in
the
afternoon.
A
D
E
Foreign
also
I
am
on
the
19th
I
think
I
said
in
the
email
but
I'm
committed
between
9
and
11.
E
so
between
and
then
I
have
a
doctor's
appointment
at
2
30.
So
that's
also
a
possibility
to
squeeze
in
an
hour
in
there
I
mean
these
conversations
really
last
one
hour,
but
we
could
try
I.
F
B
Own
place,
yeah
or
say
later
yeah
or
earlier
Anisa
does
that
work
for
you,
the
19th
at
noon
and
we'll
schedule.
F
D
Calendar
19th
at
noon
looks
like
it
didn't
work.
I
just
need
would
need
to
confirm
the
common
council
chambers
is
open.
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
do
that
quickly
again.
Take
a
second
there's,
not
generally
a
noon
meeting
that
I'm
aware
of
and
come
council
chambers
so
for
some
reason:
I'm,
not
people.
D
D
B
So
if
we
had
to
do
it
at
11
30.,
that's
fine,
okay,
all
right!
So,
let's
tentatively
say
at
noon.
Actually,
let's
make
it
11
30.
E
E
D
Okay,
so
as
soon
as
I
think
as
soon
as
I
get
out
of
zoom
and
all
we're
doing
here
with
streaming,
the
meeting
and
stuff
I
should
be
able
to
verify
right
away
whether
coming
Council
Champions
is
available
and
I
could
send
you
out
an
email
as
soon
as
we're
done
with
the
the
meeting
that
would
be
great
and
I
will
make
sure
you
have
all
the
materials
you
need
by
tomorrow
afternoon.
D
For
right
now,
no
I,
do
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
I
every
year
that
we're
having
you
know
our
RFP
time
is
open.
I
try
to
track
how
many
applications
we'll
be
receiving.
It's
been
very
difficult
this
year
because
again,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are.
D
You
know,
I've
talked
to
organizations
that
are
considering
it
I'm
thinking
of
at
least
four
organizations
that
are
considering
putting
in
an
application,
but
they
were
also
weighing
whether
or
not
they
felt
that
their
organizations
could
undertake
either
a
new
project
or
a
continued
project
this
year.
So
there's
many
balls
in
the
air
people
have
you
know
oftentimes
organizations,
ask
me
to
review
or
look
over
their
application
at
some
point.
Nobody
has
asked
me
to
do
that
this
year,
which
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
D
I
think
that
there's
benefits
to
that,
but
there's
also
a
downside
in
that
we
don't
ever
want
to
be
giving
people
the
impression
that,
just
because
I've
reviewed
an
application
that
they've
made
that
somehow
that
you
know
that
means
that
they'll
like
get
funded
and
I,
always
try
to
make
that
very
clear,
but
I'm.
Just
saying
that
again,
I
just
think
that
organizations
are
in
a
very
stretched
position
again
for
the
third
year
in
a
row,
and
so
it's
very
hard
to
predict
the
number
of
applications
we're
going
to
be
getting.
D
We
will
be
getting
applications
that
I
think
you
might
be
expecting
just
from
past
experience.
So
inhs
has
a
couple
of
new
projects:
they're
going
to
be
applying
for
plus
homeowner,
rehab
and
minor
repair.
D
I
do
not
think
the
t-cat
will
be
applying
for
anything
they've
applied
in
the
past.
I've
talked
to
the
sidewalks
department
and
engineering's
other
kind
of
Engineers
to
see
if
they
have
anything
they
want
to
apply
for
there's
a
maybe
there
we
have
several
in
the
public
service
category
and,
as
I
said,
we
have
at
least
Jack
Inc
and
Jack
Inc
and
historic
Ithaca
and
the
economic
development
area
there
might
be
an
application
coming
through
and
the
economic
development
area
for
Ithaca
shared
kitchen.
D
B
B
B
C
B
C
A
little
late
for
this
attending
a
meeting.
B
C
Oh
I
actually
do
have
one
so
when
the
organizations
go
through,
the
application
process
are
this
like?
Is
there
like
a
limit
of
fourth
months,
get
accepted
like
how
many
please.
B
The
amount
of
money
we
get
from
the
federal
government-
that's
that's
the
primary
limiting
factor.
We
have
never
and
I've
been
on
the
coming
down
about
10
12
years.
We've
never
had
enough
funds
of
the
federal
government
to
satisfy
the
demand
from
the
community
organizations.
G
If
you
could
speak
right
into
the
my
tax
department,
so
she
alluded
to
to
the
three
like
she
gave
three
names
and
reused.
One
of
them,
I
think
giac
was
another
and
then.
H
D
D
Each
category
that
we
have
you
know
they're
specialized
in
their
own
way
and
so
and
they
work
for
different
kinds
of
projects.
I
just
want
to
mention,
if
you're
interested
in
this
or
to
give
you
a
little
more
detail,
there
are
other
you
know,
businesses.
Other
organizations
could
apply
for
that
funding
and
sometimes
have
in
the
past.
D
One
limiting
factor-
or
one
thing
that
is
I,
don't
want
to
say-
makes
it
difficult
for
organizations
to
apply
in
that
category,
but
as
a
consideration
is
that
the
fun,
the
funding
streams
that
we
get
from
HUD
are
not
very
fast
moving.
D
D
You
know
for
an
organization
that
has
an
idea
about,
say,
an
economic
development
project
that
you
know
an
incubator
or
something
like
that.
They
want
to
start
in
the
community.
They
want
to.
D
The
common
Council
does
not
even
adopt
our
action
plan
until
June,
so
the
applicant
wouldn't
know
if
they're
going
to
have
funding
to
do
that
from
us
and
then
even
if
they
are
awarded
funding
through
this
process,
the
funds
would
not
become
available
until
three
months
later.
So
I
mentioned
this,
because
when
an
organization
is
looking,
you
know
to
to
make
an
application,
especially
in
the
economic
development
category.
D
They
really
have
to
think
through
and
look
over
and
consult
with
us
generally
about
how
long
it
would
take
for
the
funding
to
become
available,
because
if
they
have
time,
if
it's
not
a
time-bound
project,
if
they
could
implement
it
next
year,
then
they
very
well
could
want
to
apply
for
a
funding
if
they
have
an
immediate
need
for
it.
Not
so
much
does
that
make
sense.
G
D
You
so
I
will
say
that
the
economic
development
committee
of
Ira
is
always
interested
in
applicants
who
have
ideas-
and
you
know,
are
available
at
other
times
of
the
year
to
consult
with
those
applicants.
So
if
you
or
anybody
you
know,
is
interested
in
developing
an
economic
development
project
at
some
point
you
know,
I
can
say
that
our
Economic
Development
Committee
would
be
most
interested.
G
F
G
B
D
I
was
able
to
get
you
I.
We
do
have
come
availability
for
common
council
chambers
at
noon
on
the
19th
all.
B
Right
so
Thursday
the
19th
at
noon,
all
right
thanks,
everyone
for
being
flexible
and
being
able
to
schedule
a
second
meeting.
I
know
it's
a
lot.