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A
B
S
either
the
way
you
came
in
or
here
at
the
other
end
of
the
room
behind
Mitch
and
then
we're
supposed
to
wait
at
the
trees
on
this
side
of
the
street
on
South
Cayuga
and
Green
Street.
We
don't
cross
Green
Street
unless
absolutely
necessary.
If
you
have
restricted
mobility
in
the
event
of
emergency,
it's
best
to
move
one
of
the
stairwells
and
First
Responders
will
arrive
to
Au
and
then
an
event
of
other
emergencies.
You
will
be
notified
at
that
time,
we'll
just
see
a
little
bit.
B
We
want
everyone
to
be
aware
of
their
surroundings
and
offer
help
when
it
is
not
your
own
detriment.
If
you
are
your
own
best
Advocate,
and
with
that
gender
review
I
mean
change
the
agenda
excellent.
Next
up,
we
have
approval
of
the
April
minutes
which
are
in
your
packet.
Is
there
a
motion?
If
we've
said
Newtons
I
see,
Daniel
move
I
saw
Emily.
Second
I
should
say
Correa
any.
B
A
B
B
Then
we
will
move
on
ahead.
That
brings
us
to
site
plan
review.
First.
First
up
we
have
the
mixed
use:
building
at
510,
West,
State
and
MLK
Junior
Boulevard.
That
is
an
extension
of
cycling
groups.
A
B
I
am
not
actually
sure
how
much
discretion
we
even
have
on
these
I.
Imagine
we
have
some,
but
we
did
approve
this
project
two
years
ago.
They
have
asked
for
the
extension
that
you
have
to
ask
for
two
years
goes
by
now.
We
just
check
the
room
for
any
opposition
to
approval
in
that
extension.
Let's
do
it
good
project
yeah.
B
F
B
G
Essentially,
the
the
people
that
live
there
now
will
be
forced
to
sell
and
and
essentially,
if
you're
cornering
them
into
a
type
of
cognitive
development,
so
and
I.
Think
in
that
sense,
I
wouldn't
like
to
see
more
projects
like
this
in
terms
of
massing,
not
the
YouTube,
studying,
Workforce
and
affordable
housing
and
not
have
enough.
It's
purely
because
of
the
massing
of
the
project.
B
Good
anyone
else
wish
to
discuss
the
movie
system.
B
And
yeah,
you
don't
have
to
vote
with
the
majority
like
that's
that's
totally.
You
know
and
that's
absolutely
you're
right
in
the
board.
Members
I
mean
I'm
on
the
other
side
of
that
particular
issue,
but
like
I,
absolutely
hear
what
you're
saying,
and
that
brings
us
to
the
Ithaca
Farmers
Market.
B
D
So
I'm
Jan
Rhodes
Norman
I
am
a
vendor
at
the
Ithaca
Farmers
Market
local
business
person
and
I'm
also
on
the
southern
board
and
I
just
wanted
to.
D
You
know
speak
about
how
things
have
changed
since
we
first
came
to
you
with
a
proposal
for
the
building
and
a
parking
lot,
things
have
changed
within
market
and
without
covid,
severely
restricted
the
market
operation
for
the
better
part
of
two
Market
symptoms,
which
resulted
in
a
significant
loss
of
income.
At
the
same
time,
construction
costs
skyrocketed,
making
the
price
tag
for
a
new
structure.
Out
of
our
reach.
It
also
became
clear
that
our
current
structure
is
actually
an
icon
in
Ithaca
and
the
community.
D
Let
us
know
loud
and
clear
that
they
were
not
in
favor
of
replacing
it.
Most
importantly,
after
extensive
Outreach
to
our
members,
our
Market
members
were
not
supportive
of
the
new
design
without
clear
support
from
our
members.
Raising
the
necessary
funds
is
not
possible.
D
One
of
the
biggest
issues
in
the
new
design
was
parking
behind
our
stalls.
The
idea
of
unloading
and
leaving
the
Pavilion
site
to
park
elsewhere
is
a
non-starter
for
most
vendors,
especially
the
farmers.
Most
of
us
restocked
during
the
day
from
our
vehicles
and
are
not
able
to
keep
all
of
our
stock
in
our
boots,
and
this
is
why
many
Regional
markets
allow
vendors
to
park
adjacent
to
their
groups.
Additionally
the
displacement
of
the
market
that
would
be
necessary
for
new
construction
would
be
catastrophic
for
the
livelihoods
of
our
vendors.
D
And
I
know
that
the
new
design
that
we
are
looking
at,
the
redesign
of
our
beloved
structure
is
meant
to
cope
with
the
insufficiencies
of
the
old
one
and
yet
Embrace
what
the
community
has
come
to
love
about
being
down
there
and
you
know
improving
people's
ability
to
get
in
and
out
doing
a
waterfront
revitalization
project,
as
well
as
having
some
amenities
like
heated
bathrooms
and
and
some
other
things.
D
So
we
appreciate
that
everybody
was
supportive
of
the
first
proposal
and
we're
hoping
that
there
will
be
strong
support
for
us
shifting
gears
a
little
bit
and
kind
of
dealing
with
the
reality
of
of
what's
workable
and
sustainable
for
us.
So
thank
you.
D
F
D
You
all
for
having
us
here,
I'm
yamila
Fournier,
with
William
planning
and
design
and
I'm
here
representing
the
individual
Farmers
Market
online
I
also
have
my
colleague
and
she
will
be
doing
the
screen
share
for
the
presentation
and
well.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
having
us
back.
I
know
it
was
a
very
long
time
ago.
Now
it
seems
that
we
were
here
before.
Tell
me
about
the
the
previous
iterations
sign.
D
We
put
that
on
hold,
and
we
are
back
now
with
ready
to
look
for
approvals
for
for
this.
So
it
is
going
to
be
a
three-phase
plan.
D
So
actually,
let's
go
ahead,
and
can
you
go
ahead
and
go
on
to
the
next
page?
D
There
we
go
so
this
is
our
site
plan
SFO
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
in
here,
but
in
red
and
you'll,
see
it
clearly
in
the
next
like
in
here
in
red,
there's
a
phase
line.
So
everything
to
the
right
of
the
phase
line
is
Phase
One.
Everything
from
the
left
of
the
phase
line
will
be
phases
two
and
three.
D
D
Before
you
take
care
of
the
building
and
such
and
really
a
lot
of,
it
is
driven
by
our
funding.
So,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
funding
before
these
projects
here
on
the
far
perfect
site
are
coming
from
from
state
grants
and
we've
been
given
the
grant
funding
for.
D
First
of
all
for
the
the
plans
for
all
three
for
conceptual
plans,
but
for
phase
one
is
what
we
have
construction
and
we
were
told
that
state
that,
once
we
have
done
some
significant
work
towards
getting
shells
in
the
ground
for
phase
one
and
they
will
entertain
phase
two
phase,
three
funding:
okay,
so
that
is
the
reasonability
order.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on.
So
we're
going
to
talk
mostly
about
phase
one
tonight,
because
that's
what
that
we.
D
F
D
Will
happen
on
the
screen.
Here
is
a
side
by
side
comparison
of
what
you
might
remember
seeing
from
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
what
we
have
now
so
the
changes
to
the
parking
lot
don't
really
seem
to
be
too
significant
from
this
point
of
view,
but
I
will
walk
you
through
those.
D
So,
in
the
left
hand,
image
you'll
see
what
was
the
original
plan
for
the
Redevelopment
of
the
Pavilion
and
how
the
parking
lot
responded
to
that
with
that
pink
line
being
a
purple
permeable,
Behavior
pathway,
leading
in
front
of
the
entirety
of
the
building.
If
you
look
over
on
the
right
hand,
side
in
that
same
exact
spot,
the
that
halfway
is
still
there,
so
there
will
still
be
kind
of
this
Promenade.
D
However,
in
as
Jan
mentioned
in
her
public
comment
in
talking
with
the
vendors,
what
we
really
realize
is
that,
without
the
vendors
being
able
to
easily
load
and
reload
their
stock,
there
really
isn't
much
of
a
farmer's
market
at
all.
So
we
were,
we
went
through
a
really
extensive
process,
talking
one-on-one
with
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
part
of
the
farmers
market
and
learned
that
parking
is
really
part
of
their
livelihood
at
this
space.
So
we
looked
at
keeping
the
parking
as
it
is.
D
D
The
permeable
behaviors
that
make
up
the
head
of
Promenade
will
still
be
there,
and
what
we
have
done
is
we've
looked
at
the
rest
of
the
space
as
well.
That's
not
changed
too
much,
though
it's
a
combination
of
permeable
asphalt
and
regular
asphalt,
so
the
permeable
asphalt
will
be
where
cars
will
be
parking.
So
that's
not
a
lot
of
heavy
load
and
we
play
some
further
most
traffic
built
the
regular
asphalt
other
changes
that
you
might
see
here.
D
Looking
closely
being
bus,
stop
has
been
moved,
so
we've
had
quite
a
few
discussions,
both
with
City
staff
as
well
as
tcat
about
the
location
of
the
bus
and
how
the
bus
might
turn
around.
So
this
new
location
for
the
bus
stop
reflects
us
doing
lots
of
studies
about
how
a
bus
might
move
to
the
space
and
we're
actually
really
happy
that
we
can
bring
a
bus
to
this
location.
D
We've
heard
over
and
over
again
that,
aside
from
having
parking
configures
such
that
people
can
get
in
and
out
easily
one
of
the
best
ways
we
can
believe
parking
is
to
allow
for
public
transit,
and
so
this
is
our
solution
to
that.
There's
also
going
to
be
increased
bike,
parking,
better
bike
lanes
and
so
on.
So
I
think
the
next
diagram
that
we
have
shows
that
circulation.
So
if
they
go
ahead,
thank
you.
D
So
if
you
look
and
see,
the
the
red
line
is
a
vendor
only
circulation,
so
members
who
can
come
in
they
will
only
be
allowed
only
vendors
allowed
to
those
sections
parking
along
the
Pavilion
on
the
front
and
the
backside.
D
Customers
will
come
in
Via,
13
extension
and,
what's
really
interesting
about
it,
is
we
tried
so
many
different
configurations
to
allevue
this?
A
person
comes
in
and
now,
as
we
all
know,
when
we
go
to
the
parking
to
park
at
the
farmers
market,
there's
often
a
long
queue
of
waiting
for
one
person
to
come.
F
D
And
out
and
so
on,
in
this
case
you
can
come
in
and
you
can
choose
to
go
in
multiple
directions.
So
there's
the
the
three
aisles
that
go
right
towards
the
farmers
market
Pavilion.
Those
are
two-way
aisles.
You
can
pull
off
into
one
of
those
too.
If
you
see
a
spot
or
you
can
do
what
we've
always
done,
which
is
go
around
and
and
do
kind
of
that
one-way
queue
to
get
to
an
parking
spot.
So
that
gives
you
a
couple
of
different
options.
D
D
So
along
there's,
you
know
if
you
come
in
as
a
bike
user
along
Third,
Street
Extension,
there
will
be
a
dedicated
bike
path
that
follows
along
where
you
see
the
little
ham
there
and
that
comes
around
to
wear
this
bike
parking
area
so
that
you
can
easily
get
to
where
you
need
to
be,
and,
of
course
it
does
hook
up
with
the
Waterfront
Trail
and
then,
if
you're,
a
pedestrian.
D
You
would
come
in
kind
of
along
the
same
spot
along
the
street,
but
you
can
come
down
there's
a
couple
of
different
options.
You
can
go
to
your
left
and
come
down
along
the
kind
of
the
bottom
side
of
the
site
there
and
walk
along,
but
also
we
made
sure
that
there
are
good
connections
that
can
get
you
through
directly.
D
So
you
don't
have
to
go
around
so
where
ife's
hand
icon
is
that
actually
is
a
fully
accessible
pathway,
so
they'll
be
concrete,
so
it's
fully
accessible
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
of
the
Pavilion
and
actually,
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
spot,
that
had
the
different
kinds
of
surfacing.
D
I
D
D
So
that
is
really
kind
of
the
end
of
the
parking
lot
piece
we
did
when
we
were
at
our.
F
D
We
were
asked
to
do
sections.
We
did
a
couple
of
sessions.
The
verbs
aren't
going
away,
they're
going
to
get
shrunken
down
a
little
bit.
They're
16
foot,
wide
planting
Birds,
now
they'll
go
down
to
ten
foot
three
there
and
part
of
that
is
in
response
to
fire
department
regulations.
So
we
used
to
have
well.
We
now
have
a
12
of
fire
lane.
D
We
are
now
going
to
be
required
to
have
a
20-foot
fire
lane,
so
that
would
be
in
that
section
and
as
far
as
the
vendor
party
is
concerned,
you
know
there's
a
20-foot
vendor
parking
asphalt
and
then
we've
got
an
additional
kind
of
four
foot
buffer
space.
That
is
that
paper.
So
basically,
the
paper
space
is
24
feet
wide,
20
of
which
would
be
fire
lane
and
the
other
four.
D
There
is
kind
of
a
flex
space,
because
we
do
have
some
of
the
food
vendors
who
you
can't
cook
underneath
the
wooden
structure,
so
it
gives
them
a
little
bit
more
Elbow
Room
to
be
able
to
have
their
boots
set
up.
Just
and
here
are
some
renderings
of
what
we
expect
to
see.
So
the
first
rendering
shows,
when
you're
coming
in
on
the
Third
Street
Extension,
there's
a
lot
of
what
we
call
The
Casual
parking,
which
is
basically
people
just
parking
wherever
they
can.
However,
they
can
it's
fairly
disorganized.
D
People
just
aren't,
as
they
see
fit,
sometimes
pointing
in
sometimes
parallel
who
knows,
and
in
the
image
right
below
that
you'll
see
the
bike
lane
to
the
right
and
parking
will
actually
be
organized
so
that
there
are
Landings
and
places
where
people
know
their
cars
should
be.
So
we
don't
have
that
issue.
F
D
Oh,
that
person
had
only
parked
three
feet
to
the
left
and
then
fit
my
car,
so
that
should
alleviate
some
of
those
problems
in
the
middle
just
past
that
third
straight
entrance
password.
All
that
kind
of
casual
parking
is.
This
is
what
it
would
look
like.
You
would
we're
going
to
be
shifting
where
some
of
the
green
is
so
that
we
can
accommodate
more
of
this.
D
D
So
because
we
are
looking
to
have
a
luminary
approval
for
all
three
phases,
we
didn't
want
to
go
over
what
the
phase
two
and
the
phase
three
could
be
so
phase
two
on
the
left
hand,
side
is
what
you
may
have
seen.
You
know
once
upon
a
time
when
we
had
the
other
Pavilion
shape
and
that
we
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
how
we're
responding
now
that
the
billion
will
not
be
taking
down
and
Greenville
is
this
new
building.
D
So
you
know
we
still
have
lots
of
Green
Space
we've
outlined
for
you
with
color
coding.
What
the
different
surfaces
are
so
there'll,
be
some
concrete,
Paving
they'll
be
accessible
pathway
that
will
get
you
through
still
just
happen
in
YouTube
the
lower
level
right
now.
The
greeting
is
such
that
there's
no
way
to
be
able
to
get
somebody
excessively
from
The
Pavilion
down
to
the
dock
directly.
D
So
we
do
have
these
two
other
ways
to
get
there
it
just
it
wouldn't
have
been
visible
without
losing
a
lot
of
greens.
If
it's
in
those
things
like
very
beloved
trees,
we
also
have
the
yellow
is
the
concrete
Paving.
D
So
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
signal
when
you're
coming
down
the
Waterfront
trail
that
here
you're
in
a
different
space,
so
partner
phase
to
make
it
event
broader
wider,
easier
for
people
to
move
through
giving
signals
to
anybody
kind
of
like
the
ski
dismounted.
At
this
point
and
allowing
a
little
bit
of
extra
Elbow
Room
to
get
down
there,
the
orange
spot
will
be
reinforced
Turf
area
right
now
that
that's
kind
of
an
unprogrammed
space
in
our
current
existing
space.
D
But
now
we'll
be
programming
it
as
a
kind
of
extra
Cafe
seating.
So
we'll
be,
you
know
we
have
features
if
we
can
bring
in
and
out
and
then
of
course,
the
purple
is
the
gravel
where
vendors
will
be
parking.
D
And
this
is
just
a
really
early
section
of
what
that
might
look
like
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
to
do
is,
and
partly
it's
because
of
the
way
the
funding
structure
is
set
up,
for
this
is
really
looking
to
create
a
better
relationship
between
people
and
the
Waterfront
right
now,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
spaces
where
there's
lots
of
invasives
and
you
can't
really
get
down
there.
D
Unless
you
want
the
six-year-olds
who
climb
around
the
Willows,
which
is
really
fun,
Willows
will
stay,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
other
people
have
fun
too.
So
there
are
going
to
be
a
number
of
spots
where
similar
to
when
you're
at
the
corner
of
at
the
bottom
of
a
Shore
room
where
you
have
shorter
Park,
where
we
have
those.
H
D
Know,
big
old,
Center,
Stone
great
young
horse
water,
we'll
use
a
similar
strategy
here
to
have
people
be
able
to
actually
have
access
to
and
you
from
the
water
and
sit
there
and
eat
your
burrito
in
the
morning
on
Farmer's
Day,
so
hopefully,
that'll
make
the
whole
Waterfront
a
little
bit
more
activated
and
give
us
more
access
to
the
water
and
then
last
but
not
least,
and
of
course
the
furthest
in
the
future
is
the
actual
Pavilion.
D
So
you
remember
from
2021
that
there
was
a
whole
new
building,
no
parking
around
it.
Some
is
enclosed,
two
stores,
and
so
on.
We
really
heard
loud
and
clear
that,
well
you
know,
yeah
I
mean
cool
to
have
this
like
whole
landmark
building
the
the
love
that
people
have
or
the
sexual
structure
that
we've
already
got
on
site
is
really
deep,
and
so
we
were
asked
to
see
what
could
happen
and
still
maintain
that
structure.
D
So
after
meeting
with
the
performance,
Market,
vendors
and
meeting
with
other
stakeholders,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
thinking
about
what's
really
beloved
about
this
space
and
what
can
change
and
so
you'll
see
the
kind
of
light
peach
editions
one
at
either
end
and
you'll
see
one
kind
of
in
the
Middle
where
the
office
is
so.
What
we're
looking
at
is
looking
at
expanding
the
building
so
that
it
actually
meets
the
Waterfront
Trail.
D
So
you've
got
this
really
perfect
connection
between
water
and
Trail
and
the
building
itself,
with
restrooms
on
either
end
that
will
be
temperature,
controlled
and
open
year-round
and
certainly
can
serve
more
people
than
the
existing
Western
serve,
and
then
in
the
middle
of
the
Pavilion,
we're
in
the
offices
and
where
we
all
know
that
lovely
trailer
for
bathrooms
is
we've
already
got
broker
that
we're
used
to
seeing
with
the
build
structure
in
there.
D
So
we
talked
about
pushing
that
out
and
creating
a
little
more
space,
so
that
would
be
integrated
with
the
rest
of
the
building
and
would
be
again
a
temperature
controlled
space
that
has
a
little
bit
of
a
a
community
space.
Some
storage
space
and
extended
Office
Space
and
then
there's
a
few
other
strategies
that
we'll
be
looking
at
because
in
talking
to
the
vendors
we
we
talked
about
how
you
know.
Temperature
control
is
an
issue,
but
nobody
is
looking
to
have
like
a
completely
enclosed
space.
D
D
Now,
if
you're
there
and
it's
a
really
rainy
day,
you'll
actually
get
rain
and
sideways
from
some
spots.
So
how
can
we
mitigate
that?
How
can
we
mitigate
some
of
the
wind
that
comes
off
the
link
because.
D
All
been
there
on
a
beautiful
June
day,
but
we've
also
been
there
in
a
bitter
like
eight-hour
morning.
So
how
do
we
make
those
better
days
feel
a
little
bit
better,
so
we've
got
some
strategies
in
place
for
enclosure
of
the
story
Windows
and
had
that
enclosure
actually
helps
with
our
ability
to
have
the
place
sprinkler.
So
one
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
as
well
is
bringing
it
up
to
code
and
right
now
the
building
has
variances
for
fire
suppression.
D
But
we've
been
hearing
loud
and
clear
for
many
years
through
the
fire
department
that
I
really
like
this
brought
to
a
different
level,
especially
because
there's
cooking.
B
You
very
much
not
that
we
won't
go
around
anyway,
but
is
there
anyone
who
wants
to
lead
us
off.
D
D
G
Right
yeah,
thank
you
again
for
the
really
beautiful
presentation.
I
think
it's
really
grow
and
I
also
want
to
thank
public
comment.
I
think
it
was
really
helpful
and
and
a
really
important
perspective,
so
I
and
and
fairly
supportive,
incredibly
supportive
of
the
project.
I
think
I
I
said
this
before,
but
I
think
the
department
Market
is
really
like
a
ground
rule
of
our
community
and
it's
great
to
see
that
it's
in
great
hand,
I'm
very
supportive
of
phases.
One
and
two
and
I
know
that
you
guys
have
funding
constraints.
G
We
don't
want
to
be
a
barrier
to
that
where
I
think
that
I'm
at
a
crossroad
is
the
fact
that
we
are
you're
seek,
including
the
approval
for
the
telescope,
and
we
really
only
see
a
fraction
on
basis.
Two
and
three
predominantly
three
right
and
so
three
is
the
phase
of
the
project
that
everyone
is
is
going
to
right.
That's
the
place
making
right
and
so
the
logistical
constraints,
the
safety
constraints
you're
addressing,
but
then
you're
not
only
increasing
the
capacity
of
the
parking
you're
increasing
flow
through
you
want
to
be.
G
You
know
you
might
think.
Well,
we
should
know
that
density
and
and
around
the
Waterfront
is
growing
anything
else
right.
You
have
major
developments
up
and
down.
The
farmers
have
like
it
right.
So
you're
gonna
have
full-time
residents
there.
It
is
inevitable
right,
I,
understand
that
eventually
they
winterized
French
Market
becomes
a
part
of
data
Maybe,
This,
Time
Around.
G
That's
not
a
possibility
right,
but
I
just
feel
like
we'll
revisit
this
project
in
10
or
18
or
20
years,
and
do
a
larger
plan
like
the
one
that
was
originally
proposed,
which
I
think
is
a
really
valid
study
and
there's
some
really
great
aspects
of
food
as
well,
while
preserving
the
character
of
the
original
one.
G
This
is
a
corridor
space.
You
have
two
linear
spaces
and
there
are
so
many
great
events
that
all
the
great
moments
that
connect
people
and
all
of
the
amazing
vendors
happening.
Those
reliefs
in
the
farmers
market.
G
One
you're
making
it
you're
increasing
the
density
of
the
space,
there's
more
people,
because
more
people
can
visit
more
people
from
Park,
but
there
are
only
crowded
robes
right
that
you.
You
know
people
are
trying
to
either
eat
or
make
lines
in
they're
competing
or
catch
up
with
friends.
And
then
maybe
you
can't
get
a
if
our
player
there
to
to
you
know.
G
Cody
and
I
saw
him
so
I
think
if,
if
we,
the
board
can
come
together
in
a
way
in
which
we
can
approve
the
first
two
and
then
Michelle
the
third,
and
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
create
an
issue
with
your
funding
structure
that
I'm
comfortable
with
this
product.
So
thank.
B
You
we
will
Circle
up
on
process
towards
the
the
end
of
our
conversation
here,
because
it
is
a
little.
You
know
it's
interesting
sort
of
the
way
we're
trying
to
take
this
down
now
and
I.
Don't
totally
have
Clarity
on
what
our
options
are,
but
I
think
that
sort
of
what
the
process
has
to
be
and
what
it
could
be
is
a
conversation
we're
following
up
on
class
sure.
E
Thanks
Ian
Miller
for
the
presentation
and
I
also
appreciated
that
Karen
from
a
vendor
in
somebody's
long
time,
business
owner
there
really
helps
to
have
that
perspective
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
direction
too
I
I,
don't
think
it
was
money
wasted
to
do
the
previous
study.
It
was
really
interesting
to
study
to
think
about
how
that
might
expand
in
the
future,
but
this
feels
right.
It
feels
right,
size
and
I.
Think
it's
the
right
move
so
I'm
happy
to
see
it
I
think
the
parking
is
great.
E
I
think
the
parking
is
going
to
be
a
huge
Improvement
to
the
functioning
into
the
experience
of
going
to
the
farmer's
market.
So
I
really
like
that
there
was
a
conversation
in
PRC
about
the
vendor
parking
up
against
the
building
and
I
think
there
are
some
people
who
feel
that
if
there
was
a
way
to
to
change
that,
but
I
do
think
you
know
carrying
the
public
comment
hearing
from
vendors,
how
important
that
is
and
that
it
exists
today.
E
Yet
still
it's
a
hugely
successful
farmer's
market
I
feel
comfortable
that
that's
okay,
having
the
vendors
Park
up
against
their
stall.
I
guess
one
suggestion
could
be
as
I
was
looking
at
it
where
The
Pedestrian
openings
are.
If
there
are
vendors
who
perhaps
don't
need
their
car
as
much
during
the
operation
of
the
farmers
market,
could
those
stalls
be
reserved
for
folks
like
that,
and
perhaps
you
wouldn't
have
a
car
on
either
side
of
you
as
you
walked
into
the
business
like
you?
E
Just
I
have
no
idea
what
the
vendor
types
are
and
every
stall
is
used
at
the
farmer's
market.
I
assume
it
is
sometimes
I'm
in
there.
It
seems
like
it
is,
but
just
wondering
if
there
could
be
somewhere,
perhaps
Innovative
thinking
around
the
openings
where
the
pedestrians
come
in
for
phase
two
I,
don't
really
understand
it
yet
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
useful
to
see
before
and
after
sections
and
plans,
with
the
existing
condition,
not
with
the
previous
design.
E
The
previous
design
is
no
longer
so
we
don't
need
to
see
that
like
I
really
want
to
understand
what's
there
now,
because
it
is
it's
very
informal
and
Willows
and
with
kids
and
that
tree
trunk,
that's
Hollow
and
kids.
Walk
up
like
like
I,
want
to
see
the
specific
conditions
of
the
farmer's
market
with
the
proposed
and
then
I'll
be
able
to
understand
that
they're
if
they're
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
then
yeah
with
the
architecture
of
the
building
I
had
the
same
thought
at
the
end
of
that
you
did.
E
I
feel
like
the
flow
of
those
ends
is
really
key
to
the
functioning
and
experience
of
it
and
the
successful
performance
market
so,
to
the
extent
possible,
keep
those
open
and
have
it
extend
out
to
the
Waterfront
Trail,
and
the
last
comment
I
have
was
something
that
we
talked
about
in
PRC,
which
was
thinking
about
in
the
future,
linking
the
site
to
the
Dot
site
as
that
develops
in
the
near
future,
and
you
know
meeting
with
the
design
team
if
you're
on
the
design
team
that'd
be
fantastic,
but
linking
the
farmer's
market
to
that
site
and
the
Waterfront
Trail
would
be
a
good
study.
C
I
D
You
I
had
a
similar
but
slightly
different
thought
to
Mitch's
idea
of.
If
there
are
several
vendors
who
may
not
need
cars,
I
think
the
openings
are
a
great
one.
I
also
started
thinking
of
Waterfront
versus
parking
lot,
it's
front
of
thousand
Factor
house.
Maybe
there
are
sections
on
the
waterfront
where
there's
six
of
them,
vendors
that
could
be
and
more
seating
would
be
available.
If
there's
no
cars
there
so
similar
I
think
I
think
we
hear
the
vendors
and
hopefully
vendors
can
hear
us,
but
maybe
there's
no
compromise
ones.
D
I
really
like
the
stones
as
far
as
phase
two
I
think
that's
the
most
compelling
feature,
the
accessibility
certainly
but
also
the
stone,
because
everybody
always
wants
to
sit
and
learn
a
bit
about
it,
unless
that's
not
enough,
so
I
think
as
much
as
those
can
be
made
available
to
people
and
acceptable.
That
is
a
fantastic
idea.
D
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there's
yellow
concrete
pavers
section.
D
Will
last
the
hard
edges
I
like
the
idea
of
it,
but
I
wonder
if
that's
really
a
driving
path
for
vendors,
how
those
Corners
will
be
treated
over
time
and
maybe
I'm
just
missing
the
scale
of
a
car
in
there?
Maybe
the
car
is
really
funny
and
it
would
be
just
fine,
but
that's
one
question
and
another
in
the
parking
lot.
I
totally
agree.
I
think
the
parking
lot
is
so
great
and
much
improved
I,
just
wonder
about
his
dead
end
spot.
If
you
look
at
page
five.
D
J
D
How
does
that
work?
Everything
else
seems
to
flow,
and
if
you
go
in,
you
can
get
yourself
out
in
a
circular
way,
except
for
that
one
little
spot.
Those
are
vendor
parking,
so
there
are
some
vendors
who
don't
have
parking
near
their
stalls,
and
there
are
some
vendors
who
have
oversized
Vehicles.
So
some
of
the
larger
kind
of
box
trucks,
and
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
again
rather
than
kind
of
block
the
area
between
where
people
can
see
the
Pavilion
and
where
the
vendors
are.
D
Anybody
who
has
those
oversized,
Vehicles
sort
of
bringing
a
trailer
or
or
might
be
in
one
of
those
inside
Corners,
where
you
can't
park
a
vehicle,
we
had
overflow
parking,
specifically,
if
you
vendors,
so
that
actually
would
be
roped
off
during
Farmers.
Market
at
the
time
makes
sense
perfect,
because
I
would
be
the
one
that
drives
in
there.
F
D
D
The
one
thing
that
we
were
talking
about
for
that
is
because,
because
of
the
way
it's
set
up
and
because
it's
vendors
coming
in
earlier
before
anybody
else
is
there
they've
got
a
little
bit
of
extra
time
with
us,
but
we
measured
and
even
the
larger
box
trucks
are
able
to
manager
into
that
space.
Can
we
just
didn't
turn
around
yeah.
I
We
sorry
we
have
a
few
more
oversized
space
for
vendors
in
this
corner
as
well
just
to
accommodate
both
sides.
So
it'll
be
a
few
over
here
and
then
this
area.
B
Decision
yeah,
so
I
think
you've
gotten
some
good
hopeful,
useful
feedback
from
the
board.
I
think
people
seem
really
enthusiastic
about
phase
one.
You
know
it's
gratifying,
a
very
clear
need
or
meeting
a
very
cool
needs.
B
The
one
thing
I'll
say
about
phase
one
is
I
think
that
it
would
take
a
lot
of
work
to
make
that
fire
lane
really
be
like
a
Promenade
and
I.
Don't
know
that
you're
there
I
also
don't
know
where
you
go
with
it,
because
it's
not
like
you
can
fill
it
with
picnic
tables
and
call
it
a
fire
line.
B
So
you
know
that's
a
that's.
Obviously,
a
clear
challenge:
I
think
that
possibly
you
know
I'd
like
I'd,
like
to
sort
of
to
take
a
closer
look
at
that
and
see
what
that
could
be
and
then
phase
two
and
three
I
just
don't
know
yet,
and
it
feels
a
little
weird
to
take
the
whole
project
down
this
way
and
so
I
wanted
to
check
in
with
Nikki
about
process
and
what.
D
Thank
you
because
we
do
have
more
advanced
drawings
of
both
the
Waterfront
and
the
building,
but
I
wanted
to
find
out
how
we
want
to
now
take
bites
out
of
those,
because
it's
just
it's
a
lot
to
take
in
in
any
one
that
they
really
need
right.
Right.
D
I
think
it's
like
a
lot
of
the
other
larger
projects.
Everyone
has
gone
here.
We
do
often
do
a
full
preliminary
site
plan,
review
done
and
then
go
by
phases,
and
so
we're
really
looking
at
faces.
You
know
phase
one
we
would
want
it
you'd
want
it
as
done
as
possible
and
then
give
that
a
final.
D
But
that
said,
though,
I
think
you
can
still
ask
for
more
information
for
phase
two
and
phase
three,
and
of
course
this
is
a
flight
plan
review.
We
have
another
like
the
outline
of
the
building
for
sure
for
the
foundation,
and
but
you
know
the
conditions
can
still
be
on
there
and
that
it's
not
finalized
until
phase
two
phase.
Three.
Does
that
make
sense?
It.
B
So
I
I
feel,
like
I,
heard
a
much
higher
level
of
comfort
on
the
board
as
a
whole
on
phase
one
of
the
latter
phase
and
so
I
you
know,
given
the
choice
would
rather
focus
on
the
later
phases
in
the
next
meeting
or
two.
You
know
and
I
understand
that
we've
still
got
some
some
work
to
do,
maybe
on
Facebook
making
sure
we
all
see
a
night
or
night,
but
you
know
I'm,
not
hearing
anxieties.
There.
D
Yeah
we're
happy
to
come
back
and
show
you
I
mean.
Obviously
it's
not
going
to
be
fully
cooked,
we'll
come
back
with
fully
cook
things
when
it's
time
for
a
phase,
two
final
approval,
one
a
phase
refund.
We
even
have
some
really
fun
and
exciting
drives
for
those
of
you
can
share
it
sure.
That's
great.
I
D
I
D
I
I
You
know
her
initial
comments
from
the
planning
board,
but
the
plan
was
to
have
the
bus
driving
and
then
turn
it
around
here
and
then
get
up
because
they
were
concerned
about
going
through
all
the
parking
aisles
and
getting
to
a
spot
to
drop
up
people,
and
then
the
traffic
will
slow
bust
down
and
it's
it's
not
good
for
their
schedule,
so
they
would
rather
to
you
know,
stop
right
here
or
stop
sorry,
stop
right
here
and
then
get
out
faster
than
waiting
behind
other
cars.
I
D
Reiterating
The
Dot
site
and
this
pedestrian
assets-
and
this
eventually
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
living
there
and
coming
to
the
pharmacy.
And
the
other
thing
is.
B
F
J
J
K
Okay,
so
Chabad
house
expansion,
102
Willard
way,
you've
got
the
rendering
here
in
front
of
you.
This
is
the
Edition
existing's
to
the
right.
This
has
taken
over
the
lot
adjacent,
107,
Lake
Street,
but
you've
seen
this
before
a
few
times,
so
should
be
pretty
familiar
at
this
point.
K
This
is
modified
site
plan
approval.
The
big
request
has
been
this
circular
Drive,
which
would
accommodate
parking,
but
we
we've
given
that
up
and
we
just
want
to
use
it
as
a
loading
zone.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
note
was
which
I
never
said
before.
In
my
mind,
this
was
always
a
one-way
path.
K
I
thought
that
might
resonate
a
little
bit
better
with
everyone
as
a
one-way
I
think
there
was
some
concern
about
people
backing
out,
but
you
know
you
would
enter
at
the
high
point
and
and
come
out
the
low
side.
So
that's
that
that's
the
look
and
the
big
request.
There
is
a
new
stair
extension
here.
The
parking
garage
actually
came
down
lower,
so
we've
lifted
that
basement
level
up
to
the
elevation
of
the
back
section,
so
that
required
this.
K
This
extra
stair
coming
down
to
the
drive-
oh
and
I,
should
say
you
know.
The
plan
to
mitigate
the
The
Hardscape
is
to
use
a
permeable
pavers
for
that
area.
K
Although
the
storm
water
system
that
we're
doing,
which
is
much
smaller
than
previous
iterations,
just
three
subsurface
tanks
are
going
to
be
buried
in
the
yard
right
here
that
picks
up
all
the
upslope
runoff
from
the
neighboring
properties,
roof
water
and
everything
so
we're
actually
reducing
the
flow
to
the
storm
system,
and
then
the
overflow
will
pipe
across
and
tie
into
the
storm
system.
K
But
it's
a
net
reduction
in
stormwater
runoff
once
we're
done
with
this
project,
let's
jump
over
to
the
site
plan,
so
you
can
see
circular
drive
here.
K
You
know
we,
we
sort
of
traded
on
lock
coverage
for
a
bump
out
here
to
add
some
walk-in
coolers
got
rid
of
the
office
expansion
on
the
front
of
the
existing
building.
The
other
big
component
of
the
modification
was
the
conversion
of
the
basement
into
a
Shoal
from
the
parking
garage
and
the
parking
requirement
needed
to
be
met.
You
saw
last
time
a
shift
away
from
parking
in
the
drive
and
trying
to
squeeze
in,
although
I
forgot
to
delete
that
that
vehicle
right
here
so
we're
only
proposing
two
spaces.
K
Here
we
are
going
to
explore
the
parking
in
the
front
yard
that
you
saw
last
time,
but
we
can
only
Park
in
one
front
yard.
However,
we
did
secure
agreement
from
Cornell
to
lease
four
spaces.
We
technically
only
need
three
to
comply
with
zoning.
Five
total
with
the
two
on
site,
plus
the
previous
parking
variants,
gets
us
into
compliance
so
that
that's
how
we
would
comply
with
with
parking
at
this
Point.
This
project
is
ready
to
break
ground
in
about
a
month
here.
K
You
know
so
we're
pushing
forward
with
that,
and
we
can't
wait
to
try
to
secure
a
variance
to
park
in
the
front
yard
so
we'll
explore
that
as
part
of
the
phase
two
that
I've
been
mentioning
and
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
But
right
now
we
can
do
it
with
the
with
the
parking
or
the
the
least
offside
parking,
which
is
right
across
the
street
kitty
corner,
so
to
speak,
and
that
does
comply
with
zoning.
K
You
got
a
full
resubmission,
just
thought:
I'd
pop
up
the
landscape
plan.
It's
it's!
Basically,
all
the
same.
We
are
screening
the
you
know,
putting
a
Hedgerow
in
front
of
the
circular
drive.
We
have
this
Hedgerow
up
here.
K
I
think
I
added
one
eastern
redbud
compared
to
the
previous
plan,
and
then
this
black
gum
tree
I
had
it
moving
around,
but
it
was
fighting
this
existing
Street
tree
here.
These
two
existing
this
one
right
here
and
it
was
designed
to
provide
some
shade
for
the
courtyard.
K
So
I've
moved
that
over
since
we
aren't
going
to
park
in
this
area
anymore
and
keep
that
as
green
space
and
then
I
think
maybe
the
only
other
thing
to
mention
is
I
didn't
do
a
rendering,
but
on
the
front,
excuse
me
on
the
front
of
the
building.
We
dressed
up
the
stern
elevator
added
the
wood,
inlay,
look
and
and
added
a
window
in
there
as
well
to
dress
press
up
that
that
facade.
K
Otherwise,
you
can
see
from
the
rendering
at
times
you
most
of
the
time.
You
won't
see
that,
but
if
you're
kind
of
peering
in
from
one
discrete
angle,
you
would
you
would
catch
that
view
which
I've
shown
at
previous
meetings
I.
That's
really
it.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Obviously,.
I
B
All
seen
this
project
many
a
time,
but
we
do
have
before
a
supposed
resolution
for
approval
of
these
changes.
B
E
For
us,
yeah
I
think
this
looks
good
thanks
for
working
through
the
changes.
E
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
since
the
original
approval,
but
I
think
this
has
come
a
long
way
and
I
think
it's
a
really
nice
project,
I
think
it's
very
contextual
and
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
great
for
the
neighborhood
and
I
do
remember
a
lot
of
the
the
people
who
spoke
for
the
people
who
use
this
facility,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
upgrade
for
them
and
abuse
of
the
Hawaiian
house
in
the
neighborhood.
Thanks.
G
Right
and
yeah
also
thank
you
for
working
through
all
the
comments
that
it
included
a
really
great.
B
Any
discussion
before
I
look
for
emotion
for
the
resolution.
Yeah.
E
I
would
I'm
not
thrilled
with
the
idea
of
parking
in
the
front,
so
so
that
will
come
back
to
our
session
to
make
a
recommendation
of
BCA.
Is
that
what's
going
to
happen
or
what
are
we
happy
input
now.
D
F
D
K
Yeah
I
mean
I
assumed
we
would
just
add
a
no
entry
and
a
one-way
sign
on
the
the
Ingress
side
and
the
the
no
entry
on
this
Outlet
side.
So
we
would
add
signage.
B
D
J
D
B
Is
there
any
opposition
to
that
as
a
additional
resolution
for
best
practice,
we
should
look
for
emotion
and
a
vote
on
that.
Amendment.
Okay,
is
there,
let's
see,
does
Emily
automatically
move
it
by
proposing
the.
D
B
She
moves,
it
is
very
second
God
in
seconds
I'm
gonna
move
quickly
into
a
roll
call
vote.
This
is
on
the
amendment,
not
the
resolution
itself.
So.
I
D
And
for
you
know
a
directional
sign,
okay,
I'm
sure,
so
you
want
the
sign
I'm!
Sorry,
you
want
the
signage.
I
D
F
B
Unless
there's
further
discussion
on
the
amendment,
we're
going
to
move
into
a
roll
call
vote
on
just
the
amendment
Katrina-
yes,
yes,
it
was
yes
correct,
yes,
I'm!
Also
a
yes
on
the
amendment.
Any
further
discussion
on
the
resolution.
B
Saying
none
I'm
moving
into
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
resolution?
Katrina?
Yes,
yes,
Korea,
yes,
I
am
also
a
yes.
You
have
your
approval
for
your
site
plan,
modifications.
I
know
it's
been
a
journey,
but
congratulations
and
we're
all
excited
about
the
project.
D
D
K
Sure
yeah,
you
know
in
the
original
approval
and
review
I
actually
remove
some
for
the
renderings,
so
yeah
yeah
I'll
I'll.
Keep
that
in
mind.
Yep
I.
D
D
Hello
again,
hello,
thank
you
so
we're
here
today,
we've
got
a
I'm
really
happy
about
this.
We've
got
116
North
Meadow
Street
project
and
we're
looking
at
building
affordable,
supported
housing
in
a
walkable,
downtown
location.
D
A
very,
very
quick
overview,
it'll,
be
in
60
units
of
affordable
housing,
live
stories,
but
I'm
gonna.
Let
the
rest
of
the
team
do
most
of
the
talking
here.
Let
me
introduce
that
team.
So,
first
of
all,
we've
got
Rob
Payne
with
CSD
housing
and
he,
together
with
RSS
they're,
the
development
team.
So
RSS
does
the
support
of
housing
piece
and
we'll
talk
about
CSD
and
then
on
the
design
instruction
team.
We've
got
what
I'm
planning
to
design
for
entitlements
in
landscape
architecture.
D
We've
got
pastro
for
architecture,
we've
got
and
a
bunch
of
best
record.
So
here
today,
including
some
others
and
then
we've
got.
You
know:
engineering,
Consultants,
the
consultancy,
construction,
so
they'll
be
Marathon
engineering,
sustainable
comfort
and
Krista
construction.
C
Building
so
thanks
for
having
us.
Thank
you
thanks
for
having
us.
My
name
is
Rob
Kane,
director
of
Goldstein
development
at
CSD
housing.
We
are
a
rochester-based
developer
development
consultant
firm,
that's
Mission,
driven
we
work
with
individuals
and
non-profits
across
the
state
from
Long
Island,
New,
York
City,
or
to
Albany
and
West
over
to
Buffalo.
C
In
this
particular
instance,
class
is
probably
still
with
a
an
offering
for
memorandum,
so
we
can
offer
started
working
on
the
site,
really
look
at
all
the
DJs
and
seeds,
and
you
know,
in
our
opinion,
it
came
across
as
a
site
that
strictly
to
be
true,
you
know
really
close
to
services
on
a
bus
line,
downtown
central,
lockable,
really
kind
of
hits
the
needs
and
and
I
need
some
coins
on
the
comprehensive
plan.
C
And
so,
as
we
were
looking
at
working
with
other
non-profits,
we
came
across
our
SS
we've
already
gone
from
services
in
Tompkins,
County
they're
based
on
Capital
Region,
but
they
have
natural
aggression
from
entirely
to
Thomas,
County
and
working
on
and
various
State
housing
needs
here.
And
so,
as
we
formulated
the
concept,
we
came
together
with
a
mixed
income:
integrated
Supportive,
Housing,
Development,
Podium
construction.
C
As
you
know,
it
was
saying
first
story
parking
and
services
and
above
that
60
units
of
of
you
know:
Workforce
supported,
affordable
housing,
ranging
in
unit
types
from
a
studio
in
all
the
way
to
currently
three
bedrooms,
and
so
at
least
we'll
be
back
to
our
team,
and
you
know
we
sold
it
with
a
variety
of
different
local
engineering
firms,
local
Consultants
turtles,
or
do
you
have
the
consequences.
D
D
We're
looking
at
the
site,
we
all
know
where
this
is
the
corner
of
North
Meadow
inside
of
the
street.
So
it's
a
like
MP
lot
right
now
it
used
to
be
you
know.
A
single
family
or
I
mean
two
family
houses,
but
it's
been
MP
for
quite
some
time,
except
for
a
few
trees.
D
So
it's
five
separate
vacant
Parcels
that
will
be
Consolidated
into
the
single
parcel,
so
just
over
a
half
acre
one
thing:
that's
very
interesting.
I
think
this
might
be
the
first
time
anytime.
D
The
plan
you
said
the
first
time
we're
really
dealing
with
this
we're
looking
at
building
the
building
at
the
three
feet
above
the
ground
plane
right
now
because
of
the
flooding
Maps,
so
that
prevented
some
challenges
and
some
really
interesting
kind
of
design
decisions
that
came
out
of
this
we'd
love
to
hear
some
feedback
about
those
there
there's
a
bunch
of
trees
that
the
perimeter
will
be
keeping
the
trees
at
both
the
Northeast
and
the
southwest
corners.
D
There
is
one
rather
large
tree
that
everyone
comments
on
breaking
the
snack
in
the
middle
of
the
site
since
being
very
Maple,
unfortunately,
because
of
both
building
three
feet
up
because
the
flood
plain,
but
also
just
the
nature
of
trying
to
fit
as
many
units
as
possible.
Here,
there's
no
way
we
can
keep
that
tree
and
still
fit
anywhere
near
the
program.
But
one
of
our
colleagues
speed
actually
came
with
a
really
fantastic
idea
of
well,
it's
a
good
Maple.
D
We
can
know
it
and
actually
use
the
tree
for
some
of
the
features
inside
the
building.
So
things
like
your
front
desk
and
stuff
like
that,
so
you
know
kind
of
keep
the
spirit
of
the
tree
on
site
in
some
way,
shape
or
form.
D
Let's
see
one
thing
we
talked
about:
let's
go
ahead
and
do
the
next
slide
and
you'll
look
at
the
the
basic
layout
for
the
site.
So
it's
taking
up
a
lot
of
the
books
into
the
site
because
we
are
looking
to
fit
as
many
leads
as
possible.
Everything
is
going
to
be
within
all
the
appropriate
setback
for
the
site.
We
did
that
site
a
little
bit
more
than
it
was
required
in
zoning
from
the
Route
13
side
and
at
that
corner
because
we
wanted
to.
D
We
spoke
to
Lisa
and
other
planning
stuff
about
needing
a
little
bit
more
Elbow,
Room
and
really
feeling
like
people
are
going
to
be
living
on
top
of
the
13.
So
a
little
bit
more
space
on
that
side
to
allow
for
a
little
bit.
F
D
Planting
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer,
a
better
sidewalk,
feel
and
then,
of
course,
having
an
open
corner
at
the
corner
of
meadow
and
Seneca
so
that
the
building
kind
of
welcome
people
into
that
corner
and,
like
I
mentioned
all
the
setbacks,
are
either
within
or
at
what
has
allowed
for
Western
development,
District
and
there's
nothing
else
about
the
site.
It'll
be
asking
for
each
others
with
that
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
the
leader
to
talk
about
the
architecture
itself.
L
Associates
and
just
to
run
through
the
floor
plan
a
bit
we
are
looking.
You
know
the
campaign
parking
within
the
site.
We
we
did.
You
know
to
a
certain
extent.
We
have
one
way
parking
in
cool
there.
You
are
with
one-way
exit
and
contained
within
their
or
about
is
exactly
28
parking
spots.
We
consider
trash
maintenance
and
mechanical
spaces
within
the
building
and
we
practice
looking
at
those
practical
bags
here
in
the
building
trash
will
be.
L
You
know,
through
a
garbage
Chute
within
spaces,
on
the
upper
floors
all
contained
within
the
building,
and
then
you
know
Governor's
day
for
the
space.
Through
you
know,
at
the
grade
level
door
on
the
street
there
we
do
have
a
bicycle
parking
within
the
facility
for
up
to
60
I.
L
Think
there
are
72
I
forget
how
many,
but
we
are
seeking
lead
certification
for
this
project,
so
all
of
those
stimulation
for
both
lead
and
Urban
Design
Center
will
be
included
within
there,
and
then
we
have
all
the
commercial
space
or
Sports
based
all
aligned
along
the
streets
that
we
are
trying
to
keep
the
side
along
that
area
as
transparent
as
practical.
But
we
also
have
you
know
a
bit
of
issue
with
trying
to
get
people
inside
the
building,
including
ramps,
which
I
think
help
bring
the
building
down
to
grade
and
don't
create.
L
You
know
a
strict,
strong
pedestal
and
we
have
those
in
both
two
locations
up
on
the
main
intersection
at
and
okay
yeah,
and
you
know
where
we
have
a
cantilever
of
the
building
over
that
main
entrance.
So
you
know
we
do
think
that
that
main
entrance
then
provides
a
void
where
we
can
create
an
urban
park.
If
you
will,
with
a
covered
area
where
people
can
gather
to
a
certain
extent
and
provide
some
transition
between.
You
know
the
exterior
and
the
interior
at
that
location.
D
And
for
those
of
you,
following
along
in
your
packets,
you
don't
see
this
in
your
package,
so
there's
a
little
red
revision
cloud
and
that's
because
the
change
from
what
you
have
in
your
packet
is
that
the
ramp,
bringing
you
into
the
lobby
is
entering
from
the
sidewalk
at
Seneca
Street,
as
opposed
to
from
within
the
that
kind
of
corner
prep
space.
The
other
thing
that
might
be
different
from
what
you
see
is
that
we
are
playing
around
with
the
layout
of
things
like
the
community
room.
D
The
services
in
there
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
this
building
has
active
spaces
that
are
used
on
a
regular
basis
facing
the
streets,
there's
a
little
bit
more
transparency
to
the
street,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
the
lobby
allows
for
both
an
inviting
space,
but
also
a
very
secure
space.
So
they'll
probably
be
changes
to
this
material
footprint.
But
we
are
trying
to
keep
in
mind
the
idea
of
how
this
lands
on
that
street
and
how
that
we
can
have
Windows
activated
people
who
are
actually
doing
lots
of
stuff
inside.
D
L
We
also
one
other
thing:
we
do,
you
know
the
building
is
setback
and
the
rear
property
line
a
little
bit
more.
We
do
have
a.
L
Where
we,
you
know,
we'll
have
some
Turf
and
drainage
within
there.
It's
also
closed.
L
L
Well,
the
next
level
the
building
does
set
back
as
a
rear
property.
That
is
that
discussion
in
here
and
we
did
have
a
roof
Terrace
there
with
residential
units
that
surround
this
building,
it
becomes
more
of
an
L-shaped
building
rather
than
a
rectangular
building.
At
this
point,
with
a
bit
of
a
you
know
a
an
additional
unit
on
their
front
side,
all
the
circulation
is
at
the
front
of
the
building,
we're
looking
at
some
of
the
transparency
and
the
color
elements
of
that.
L
As
we
you
know,
we
do
the
elevation
studies,
but
you'll
see
it
a
little
bit,
and
but
you
know
this
is
a
mix
of
units
including
the
corner
unit,
which
it
would
carbon
a
notch
on
the
building.
So
we
can
daylight
within
you
know
the
units
around
the
corner.
L
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
building
as
it
goes
up,
that
void
is
a
little
bit
more
prominent
and
you
know
Step
Back,
From,
The
Neighbors
on
that
side.
D
Then
the
next
slide
again
is
again
the
same,
because
the
the
third
and
fourth
floors
are
obviously
exactly
the
same
as
one
another.
It.
L
We
created
a
roof
Terrace
and
the
main
front
intersection
a
business
center
which
will
have
some.
You
know,
activity
you
know
day
and
night,
so
even
during
the
winter,
the
dark
mindset
will
be
at
that
area
where
residents
can
come
and
use
computer
types
plug-in
and
have
access
to
Internet
and
Technology,
as
well
as
a
fitness
space
on
that
upper
level.
You
know
facing
the
street,
which
you
have
to
show
a
variety
of
minimal
variety
of
equipment
currently,
but
you
know
that
would
be.
You
know
with
a
complete
gym
type
area.
L
We
do
have
some
landscaping
and
a
trellis
that
kind
of
separates
the
root
Crescent
Terrace
from
the
street.
You
know
it's
always
a
concern
with
people
and
what
can
happen
and
repair.
You
know
people
that
interact
with
the
street
and
they
don't
want
people.
You
know
too
close
to
the
edge
with
that.
Nonetheless,
having
you
know
that
light
ventilation
of
a
network
flooring.
L
Revised
elevations
we're
still
working
with
the
building
elevations,
but
I
think
we've
settled
on
something
that
you
know
pretty
pretty
steady
on.
It's
a
mixture
of
materials
from
brick
to
siding,
to
nichihad
panels
on
the
the
front,
two
facades,
as
well
as
some
of
the
metal
accents
and
the
curved
roof
within
there
and
I
do
think.
We
will
show
the
rendering,
which
I
think
really
highlights
the
building
even
more.
L
So
they
decide
that
you
see
currently
in
the
back
there,
where
it's
very
iolithic
we've
been
looking
at
Green
Wall
Solutions
we've
been
looking
at.
You
know
mural
Solutions,
but
we
might
be
looking
at
more
of
a
void,
type
solution
or
a
transparent,
semi-transparent
wall
or
infill
panel
in
there
just
articulating
the
challenge,
but
that's
still
a
bit.
You
know
in
open
board
in
from
everyone,
excellent,
just
kind
of
a
reiteration
of
besides
along
the
rear.
The
upper
elevation
again
is
an
area
that
does
have
some
of
this.
L
The
bike
storage,
as
well
as
the
trash
I,
think
the
trash
area.
We
probably
want
more
solid,
but
there
is
the
ability
to
have
some
more
openness
to
that
beside
along
the
rear
there,
along
the
right
side
of
that
upper
side.
F
D
F
L
And
I
think,
like
anything
at
the
buildings,
look
better
or
three
dimensions.
We
have
provided
a
preliminary
rendering
you
know
like
everything
nowadays,
everything
looks
very
final,
but
you
know
it's
much
like
we
don't
draw
on
tracing
paper
or
napkins
any
longer
we
draw
on
computers
and
everything
looks
very
rigid
into
buying
a
complete.
You
know
this
is
still.
This
is
design.
Study
is
very
accurate.
What
we
propose
within
our
revised
packet,
but
kind
of
gives
you
a
better
deal
for
how
it
really
would
look
I
think
would
be
the
corner.
L
We,
you
know
the
trees
that
you
see.
There
are
those
that
are
maintained.
We
try
to
get
them
in
the
correct
scale
and
at
your
point
we
don't
show
them
transparent,
but
you
know
well
taken
from
the
first
week
they're
working
through
that,
but
we
also
wanted
to
kind
of
show
that
we
did.
After
an
initial
design,
we
had
the
building
a
little
closer
to
this
trees.
Three
trees,
we've
moved
it
back
to
try
to.
L
You
know
that,
like
green
wash
this
that
we're
trying
to
keep
the
tree
but
we're
really
building
the
building
where
the
trees
are
better
to
die
off,
we
try
to
give
them
a
little
bit
more
of
the
canopy
space
which
he
gets
the
root
space
to
allow
them
to
flourish
rather
than
having
the
construction,
just
kill
the
trees.
And
then
you
know
that
few
years
not
have
the
trees
there
any
longer
they
are
established
and
we
do
understand.
Like
the
millisec.
L
You
know
there
is
one
prominent
tree
in
the
middle
of
the
site,
which
we
looked
at
every
different
way
of
how
that
they
could
be
worked
around.
It's
just
I,
don't
want
to
say
it's
impossible
if
anything
is
possible,
but
you
know
it
just
doesn't
make
a
practical
solution
for
a
building
layout
within
the
site,
and
I
have
successfully
used
a
tree
in
the
past
and
build
it
for
out
building
elements
within
the
building.
It's
much
like
we
do
with
historic
buildings.
D
Hopefully
our
in
conversation
with
and
I
said
right
now
about
bearing
those
lines
in
part
because
we
wanted
to
be
able
to,
you
know,
have
a
she
would
have
it
cleaned,
but
we
have
to
have
access
aerial
access
to
the
building,
so
in
talking
with
fire
department,
that's
that
was
one
of
those
decisions
that
you
can
buy
that
so
it
wasn't
just
for
the
sake
of
having
a
cool
looking
rendering
it's
a
real
thing.
B
Great
I'll
start
with
somebody
a
little
more
about
architecture
than
me.
D
Don't
sell
yourself
straight
there's
so
many
exciting
things
about
this
project.
Is
it
100,
affordable.
F
D
Don't
think
this
is
a
great
site
and
a
great
spot
and
I
think
they
can't
be
more
excited
about
the
vulnerability
units
to
be
online,
as
my
Netflix
I
am
so
glad
to
see
the
rendering
and
some
of
the
updated
images
which
I
wasn't
super
excited
by
the
elevation.
But
I
am
I'm
sort
of
jazz.
D
Now
that
I
saw
the
rendering
but
materials
look
like
they're
going
to
be
high
quality,
which
is
so
important,
but
what's
going
to
feedback
from
bring
elements
and
I
know
the
new
two
half-bound
ones
are
expensive
and
good
quality,
so
hopefully
that
can
remain
throughout
the
project
and
I
think
we
always
talk
about
dimensionality
and
creating
debt
in
big
buildings
that
are
almost
social
block
and
really
doing
that.
I
can
see
that.
D
So
it
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
spaces
for
people
to
interact
with
the
building.
I,
don't
know
the
mention
to
this
law,
especially
North
facade,
one
thing
I
guess
I
would
caution
is
to
not
make
it
look
like
different
buildings,
it's
kind
of
a
fine
lines.
A
lot
of
women
have
to
make
a
long
facade,
interesting.
M
D
I
think
I've
seen
a
few
buildings
in
Ithaca
be
less
successful
because
we're
trying
to
look
like
different
villains.
So
so
you
can
like
have
a
similar.
L
C
D
Yeah
I
think
I
was
trying
to
pull
up
Google
Maps
and
see
what's
to
the
left
and
right
of
it
on
13
and
I'm
sure
that
will
come
next
time.
That's
going
to
be
super
important,
it
looks
like
you've
got
some
space
to
maybe
make
on
the
South
Side
14
feet,
maybe
that
wall
That's
parking
can
really
be
something,
and
maybe
there's
the
pet
area
plus
cables
are
plus
something
I.
D
Don't
I
can't
tell
if
it
gets
on
my
phone
there
or
not,
and
similarly
on
the
west
side
looks
like
you've
got
some
space
between
your
plot
and
the
next
neighborhood,
so
I
think
that'll
be
interesting
thing,
but
it's
great
I'm
super
excited.
D
Thanks
for
your
presentation,
really
like
where
it's
going
I
agree
with
Emily
I
wasn't
too
much
of
a
fan
of
the
initial
in
our
dreams
or
not
renderings
Renovations,
but
with
the
rendering
I
can
see
a
lot
of
contrast
and
depths
to
the
building
and
I
think
it's.
The
massing
is
shaping
up
nicely
and
I'm
excited
to
see
the
rest
of
developing.
E
E
I,
do
think
the
the
rendering
to
me
feels
a
little
bit
kind
of
overbaked
I
guess
if,
for
lack
of
a
better
word
and
I,
think
some
simplification
of
that
of
the
massing
of
the
facade
would
do
this
project
well,
it
feels
like
a
kind
of
a
mashup
of
a
bunch
of
different
projects
together
and
I,
see
her
trying
to
work
that
out
and
I
know
you're
trying
to
work
that
out.
But
that's
really
my
only
only
comment
but
the
corner.
Just
the
last
thing.
The
corner
is
important.
E
E
The
project
that
we
always
talk
about
is
the
West
End
Heights.
The
corner
of
court
and
Meadow
that
I
think
does
that
really
well
sorry,
and
it
really
makes
a
statement
at
that
corner
in
terms
of
architectural
hierarchy
and
I.
Think
right
now,
I'm
not
sure
that
you're,
probably
just
getting
there
but
I,
know
what
it
can
and
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
it
completely.
L
I,
don't
want
to
say
the
one
good
thing,
but
the
one
good
thing
that
the
three-point
upset
does
gives
us
a
little.
You
know
in
the
first
one
another
greater
Florida
than
the
other
employers,
but
they
have
an
additional
three
feet.
It
gives
that
entry
point
so
real
height
looks
definition
squat
yeah,
you
know
low
space
that
would
be
kind
of
more
imposing.
This
I
think
you
should
be
able
to
grab
some
daylight
and
some
sunshine,
and
you
know
the
ability
to
see
more
of
the
tree
than
just
the.
It
was.
E
L
G
F
G
Just
want
to
say
two
thumbs
up
like
this
is
a
really
great
project
like
a
lot
of
thorough
sort
of
three
different
ideas.
Early
on
and
I.
G
Think
it
gives
a
lot
of
I
I
feel
the
need
to
say
this,
but
I
think
if
some
of
the
market
rate
developers
run
for
their
money,
because
I
think
the
program
is
fantastic
and
it
shows
that
you
can
do
this
in
affordable
and
your
will
be
you're
seeking
to
comply
with
lead
certification,
fantastic
right,
I,
don't
feel
like
we're
necessarily
playing
Corners
all
over
the
points
about
I.
Think
the
masking
is
great.
G
A
lot
of
new
development
is
sort
of
straight
flat,
roots
and
I.
Think
your
linear
accents
are
really
great
and
I.
Think
it's
all
right,
I
think
they'll
be
annotated,
because
we
need
more
of
that,
but
to
the
point
about,
maybe
the
mix
of
materials
or
trying
to
break
up
the
building,
I
I
would
reference
buildings
that
have
done
it.
I
think
I
think
you
could
do
it
if
you're
a
mix
of
materials
is,
is
a
good
match,
so
I
think
we're.
G
Building
in
all
reference
is
the
Ironworks
building
not
too
far
off
I.
Think
just
really
good
and
I
think
what
works
there
is
that
the
detail
of
certain
materials
is
small
and
we
discussed
this
treat
that
we
had,
whereas
some
of
the
large
paneling
fuels
out
of
place
in
a
neighborhood
that
one
block
over
is
still
shingle
style
residential
right,
so
it
makes
it
feel
more
intimate
and
we'll
reference
for
the
first
time,
I've
ever
Riverfront
or
design
City
you're,
seeing
the
design
guidelines.
L
C
C
B
I
think
you've
gotten
some
some
good
feedback
on
the
board.
There's
a
lot
to
like
about
the
project,
but
there's
also
clearly
some
constraints
that
you
guys
are
bumping
up
against
that
or
causing
some
things
that
I
think
perhaps
less
desirable.
You,
you
pointed
out
some
of
those
songs
at
the
ground
level,
currently
feeling
a
little
monolithic
and
that
you're
working
on
those
and
I'm.
F
B
To
see
those
available
I
also
wish
it
were
a
little
less
gray.
B
That
well,
and
we
have
got
a
lot
of
gray
stuff
slide
and
we've
improved
a
lot
of
great
stuff
and
it's
not
like
downtown,
affordable
housing.
It's
where
we're
going
to
start
holding
the
line,
but
a
pop
of
color
I
think
would
really
help
you,
especially
if
you're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
activate
this
entrance
and
make
it
look
like
more
of
a
thing.
B
I,
don't
know
something
to
think
about,
but
yeah
great
great
program.
It
doesn't
look
like
affordable
housing,
which
is
always
nice
when
you're
looking
at
affordable
housing,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
you
know
once
you
move
your
financing
along
and
get
it
on
your
ducks
in
a
row
that
it
still
looks
like
that.
B
But
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
a
warm
reception
to
start
off
with
some
stuff,
but
we'll
be
excited
to
look
at
As.
You
move
forward.
I
do
want
to
check
in
with
staff,
about
the
things
that
they've
noticed
so.
D
Yeah
I
think
you
know
everything
everybody
said:
I
agree
with
we're,
so
excited
about
affordable
housing,
particularly
is
it
still
permanently
supportive?
Yeah
I
mean
that's
really
important
and,
as
we've
discussed,
I
think
the
way
this
building
touches
the
ground
is
going
to
be
really
key
and
worked
it
out
in
many
places.
In
many
places
it's
still
struggling
with
the
event.
D
You
know
that's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
be.
You
know,
problem
for
you
to
solve.
I
I,
do
think
one
of
the
options
you've
opened
up
to
really
activate
this
building.
Are
these
room
Terraces?
And
you
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
room
on
the
street
for
green,
but
you
could
really
green
up
these
Terraces
and
really
have
plants
up
there.
Even
the
narrow
ones
something's
written
over
and
the
green
wall
is
nice,
but
you
could
have
a
freeze
there.
L
They've
really
development
back,
had
you
also,
but
we
didn't
realize
that
it
needs
to
be
some
preparation
between
the
patio,
the
residential
units,
as
well
as
the
you
know,
the
editability
and
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
deal
on
there.
Although
you
know
that
is
more
internal
or
less
external,
but
we
do
not
plan
on
having
you
know
some
plantings
on
the
upper
yeah.
F
B
One
last
thing
that
I'll
say
is
I:
I
worry
about
your
interior,
two
bedroom,
the
interior
foreign
I,
see
what
you've
done
to
try
to
allow
some
light
and
air
and
I
just
wonder
if
that's
going
to
work
in
practice
and
yeah
I
mean
I
I,
wouldn't
if
we
were,
you
know
closer
to
final
approval
today,
I,
don't
think
it
would
stop
me,
but
I
think
it's
worth
taking
a
hard
look
at
we've.
L
Actually
done
this
in
a
few
other
projects
with
these
partner
units,
I
can
probably
bring
as
a
photographs,
yeah
they'll,
be
super
happy,
yeah
and
I
do
think
that
Portugal
tweaking
I
think
a
little
bit.
I
do
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
pinch
point,
but
you
know
at
the
expense
of
sometimes
bedroom
and
interior
space,
but
we're
tweaking
that
layout
a
little
bit
sure.
D
D
J
D
Thinking
about
the
bikes,
it's
amazing
16
to
72,
but
thinking
about
electric
bikes
too,
and
whether
you'll
have
plug-ins.
Then,
if.
H
B
F
D
J
D
H
A
B
Well,
we're
glad
to
have
you.
This
has
been
a
fun
meeting
with
everybody
in
person.
If
you
would
please
introduce
yourself
and
take
it
away.
M
I'm
Gary
snow
I'm,
the
owner
of
and
I'm.
A
Here
to
share
with
you
Aries,
both
recent
rendition
of
proposed
signage
for
the
project
and
I,
wanted
to
back
up
a
little
bit
and
and
share
with
you
what
we
had
provided
to
the
planning
board
back
in
December
as
part
of
our
Clinton
and
final
statement
approval-
and
this
was
part
of
our
December
submission
and
the
a
b
c
and
d.
These
were
also
things
that
we
had
identified
as
being
replaced
for
the
project.
A
We've
had
an
included
these
various
signs
on
the
illustrations,
the
renderings
that
were
done
by
John
Schneider
image,
for
instance,
you
can
see
there's
the
menu
board
outside
the
the
office
door.
There's
a
building
mounted
sign
on
the
Meadow
Street
side,
and
the
third
sign
that
we
had
was
on
the
south
end
or
the
accident
or
the
tunnel,
which
you
would
see
moving
North
on
Meadow
Street.
A
It
was
not
in
any
of
these
images,
but
what
we
have
and
what
we
did
propose
back
in
December,
and
what
is
still
the
case
today
is,
is
the
same
pylon
sign
that
we
had
shared
in
upcoming
images
here.
So
this
is
our
pylon
sign.
It's
again
meeting.
All
of
the
presenting
impairments
in
terms
of
his
total
height
and
in
terms
of
its
square
footage
the
menu
board,
this
being
signed
B
outside
the
entry
to
the
tunnel
six
by
four
and
a
half,
and
on
the
this
is
the
elevation.
A
A
So
these
were
all
part
of
what
we
presented
for
safe
plan
review
consideration
and
what
Gary
has
done
now
in
making
a
submission
to
the
planning.
Division
with
the
sign
application
is
to
add
some
additional
signs
that,
in
the
case
of
these
e-signs
These,
are
better
and
exit
at
the
curb
cut
on
South
Titus,
and
we
understand
that
these
are
not
part
of
the
signage
square
footage
requirement,
in
other
words,
still
their
directional
signs
and
do
not
apply
against
the
total
square
footage
or
the
number
of
signs
on
the
property.
A
There
are
three
signs
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
there's
a
stop
here.
There's
the
police
wait
for
attendant
and
there's
the
notice
for
the
pickup
trucks.
These
are
all
going
to
be
daily,
moved
out
in
the
morning
and
put
back
into
the
office
at
night.
So
these
are
not
permanent
signs.
They're
just
freestanding
small
posts
that
are
there
until
closing
the
remainder
of
the
signs,
the
exit
only
the
hours,
please
tip
your
please
tip
your
crew
and
damage
responsibility
of
tire
shine
and
simonize.
A
A
And
then
the
last
page
of
signage
willing
to
get
back
so
Gary
needs
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
his
idea
on
the
entrance
to
this
call.
This
is
actually
mounted
just
above
the
framing
at
the
entrance,
so
he
included
that
in
his
calculation
of
signage.
A
Now
this
page
is
for
the
most
part.
None
of
these
are
not
going
to
see
many
of
these
you're
not
going
to
see
that
please
remove
snow
and
ice
you're
not
going
to
see
any
Employers.
In
fact,
they'll
see
unlimited
and
we
won't
be
seeing
the
free
wash.
We
are
going
to
be
using
the
please
exit
left
only
at
the
at
the
exit
of
the
site.
A
These
were
to
be
of
a
Windjammer
Style,
signage,
temporary,
not
alive,
so
these
are
out.
So
the
only
thing
that
would
be
applicable
on
this
page
is
going
to
be
the
Precision
left
going.
B
The
summation
of
filter
signage
here
and
please
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
all
right.
Anybody
want
to
go
first.
G
I
want
to
say
that
the
site
is
looking
really
great
and
it's
nice
to
see
what
was
the
report
demolish
and
you
know
I
I'm
really
excited
this
project.
G
I
think
that
I
think
that
there's
too
much
signage
but
I'll
tell
you
why
right
and
I
think
what's
different
about
this
site
to
other
locations
that
you
have
it's
so
close
to
residential
and
through
residential
neighborhood.
That
I
think
you
have
an
excessive
amount
of
signage
or
a
really
great
building
that
has
the
greatest
signage
you
can
have,
which
is
location,
location.
You
have
Windows
advertising
and
active,
live
Roi
and
I.
I.
G
Think
that
particularly
sine
D
is
is,
is
overkill
potentially
sign
C,
especially
if
you're
going
to
have
a
large.
G
Mountainside
on
the
corner,
I
promise
you
you're
incredibly
visible
amazing
site
right.
That
will
not
be
missed.
You
know,
so
that
is
my
opinion
again.
I
I
really
like
this
project,
I'm
excited
to
go
through
it
and
see
it
realized,
but
I
do
think
that
at
least
ID
is
is
excessive.
D
I
had
just
a
question
about
illumination
for
sort
of
the
things
that
are
close
to
the
residential
neighborhood.
What
time
does
the
above,
the
internally
eliminated
science.
M
Bro
we
can.
We
can
control
that
generally,
when,
when
you
look
at
the
signs
here,
they're
all
out
on
recording,
if
you
will
so
there's,
none
no
illuminated
times
in
the
rear
of
the
building.
So
you
know
when
I
look
at
this
I
said
so,
if
there's
any
Resident
residential,
it's
pretty
far
away
from
us,
but
as
we
discussed
in
planning
but.
D
M
Know
anything
they
can
be
turned
out.
We
we
do
things
with
lights
to
so
as
I
discussed
so
with
lighting,
and
we
can
do
the
same
thing
with
signage
and
and
so
generally,
what
we
do
is
at
we're
open
from
eight
to
eight
six
days,
a
weekday
to
fix
on
Sundays
so
generally
an
hour
after
we
close,
because
we
still
have
them
employees
on
site
once
they're
clear,
which
is
always
within
an
hour.
We
go
into
a
we
consider
a
night
mode.
M
If
you
will
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
light
for
safety,
but
we
do.
We
do
turn
off
what
we
can.
We
do
it
for
a
number
of
reasons
because
hey
when
I
open,
so
we
can.
We
can
turn
these
lights
out
at
nine
o'clock,
nine
six
days
a
week
and
seven
o'clock
at
night,
and
we
can.
We
can
kick
the
signs
down
because
we're
not
open
at
that
point
so
or
we
can
elect
to
leave
one
of
them
on
or
it
would
be.
F
F
A
B
I
have
a
quick
question
on
sign
a
before
I
I
get
back
to
getting
around
the
room.
Do
you
have
other
signs
like
sign
A's
with
the
illuminated
accent
poll
thing?
Is
that
something
you've
done
before.
M
Now
in
Portland
we
have
an
electronic
sign
so
and
that
electronic
sign
has
that
design.
On
that
pole,
we
can
take
that
out
if
I
thought
it
looked
good,
so
yeah
I
mean
it's
kind
of
slick,
I
know
if
you
don't
like
it
I'm
amountable
to
taking
that
out
sure.
M
And
it
looks
and
it
looks
nice
you
know
their
LEDs
they're,
not
offensive
they're,
Damned
they're
not
bright
and
they
just
kind
of
add
some
contrast
to
a
whole,
which
is
hard
to
make
look.
D
Thanks
for
your
presentation,
I
think
this
is
actually
a
really
good.
Looking
car
wash
building
I've
seen
a
lot
of
car
washes
that
are
kind
of
not
attractive,
so
I'm
glad
that
it
is
on
that
corner
and,
like
Daniel,
said
your
location.
Is
your
sign?
No
one's
going
to
mistake
that
building
for
anything
else,
but
a
car
wash
so
I
tend
to
agree
that
sign.
B
is
excessive
because
you're
either
going
to
be
coming
or
going
from
13.
D
I,
don't
mind
being
illuminated
Paul
on
a
but
I'd
like
to
see
that
turned
off
at
seven.
Okay,.
D
Because
I
think
visually
you're
gonna
either
you're
gonna
see
either
end
of
the
building
as
you're
driving
by
you're,
not
gonna.
You
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary.
It's
going
to
be
clear
that
that
is
spooky.
Green
Car
Wash
I
am
interested
in
turning
off
the
signs
after
nine
and
maybe
dim
them
after
seven
I.
Don't
know
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
an
eliminated
sign
when
you're
closed.
M
M
Off
because
at
that
point
it
will
close
we're
just
concerned.
M
M
M
G
I'm
sorry
I
seem
to
have
misunderstood
the
sign,
a
detailed
drawing
with
the
skirt
laying
on
the
pole.
I
really
don't
support
the
skirt
Lighting
on
the
pole
itself.
My
understanding
the
sign
is
Liz.
I
I,
just
fear
that
that
would
set
up
kind
of
me
from
our
perspective,
a
dangerous
precedent
for
other
people
following
that,
and
if
you
have
multiple
businesses
on
Disney
street
with
lit
LED
poles,
even
if
it's
subtle
lighting.
G
Than
that
yeah
yeah,
I
I,
don't
I
really
don't
support
the
lighting
anymore
and
I
and
I
can't
think
of
a
single
point
of
reference
in
in
Ithaca,
where
that's
done
correctly
and
unfortunately,
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
sort
of
like
a
Vegas
strip
right.
So
too
much
light
right
in
your
face,
like
you're
a
great
site.
I
can't
say
that
much.
M
E
Yeah
I
agree
that
I,
don't
think
sign
D
is
needed.
Actually
that
was
my
first
thought
when
we
first
saw
this
time
package,
but
as
we're
talking
about
this
I
think
I
would
go
even
further.
The
Next
Step
would
be
to
remove
sine
a
remove
the
freestanding
pilot
assignment,
because
your
site
is
your
site,
as
has
been
discussed.
Everyone
knows
it's.
A
car
wash
we've
talked
about
Route
13
for
years
about
how
to
make
this
more
of
a
mainstream.
E
One
of
the
reasons
why
this
doesn't
feel
like
a
main
street
that
feels
Auto
oriented
is
because
of
all
the
pylon
signs
that
you
have
on
the
Strip
on
an
auto
strip.
When
you
see
photographs
of
the
commercial
strip
and
how
these
are
not
places
for
people
and
nobody
walks
there,
it's
all
for
cars.
What
you
see
are
the
pilot
size,
I
think.
F
E
Think
your
car
wash
your
squeaky
clean
business
is
fantastic.
It's
a
great
business.
Everyone
knows
it.
Everyone
will
know
this
is
the
sweet
doing
car
wash
if
there's
no
doubt
about
it
and
I.
Think
if
there
is
a
really
truly
ask
for
an
Innovative
solution
would
be
to
get
rid
of
the
pilot
inside
I
know,
that's
a
radical
solution.
It's
probably
not
going
to
happen,
but
I
don't
agree
with
the
lit
poll
say
the
sign
ends
up
being
there,
but
I
definitely
think
that
sine
P
should
go
away
and
I
think
Emily.
E
You
said
it
best
is
that
this
is
a
traditional
building
between
the
commercial
Corridor
and
residential
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
a
great
knock
that
that
signed
the
and
the
faces
the
road
getting
rid
of
that,
but
they
could
just
feel
more
of
a
it's
slightly
more
of
a
residential
feel.
B
I
want
to
check
in
on
a
couple
other
signs
before
I
give
my
opinion
on
the
signs
you've
been
talking
about.
The
science
eats
the
whole
internet
exit
signs.
Those
are
internally
eliminated
and
I
wonder
if
they
need
to
be.
M
What
we
did
there
was
we
looked
at
those
signs
that
are
small
because
we
can
reasonably
make
them
so
and
if
you
look
there
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
dimensions,
but
again
we
knew
we
were
on
Titus
Avenue
there,
so
I'm
sure
we
wanted
to
make
them
so
that
it
will
clear
but
not
make
them
any
bigger
than
they
needed
space.
And
so
you
know
the
exit
sign
is
two
feet:
six
inches
and
and
one
12
inches
high.
M
F
M
Moving
vehicles
that
we
drill
down
on
it
forever
I
mean
it's.
We
look
at
things
like
illegal
driving
requirements.
Division
is
2020.,
we
know,
we've
got
people
that
are
below
okay,
it's
just
about
keeping
people
comfortable,
we're
dealing
with
moving
vehicles
from
people
not
getting
out
of
their
cars,
and
so
we
kind
of
know
what
work
says,
and
you
know
that's
where
the
the
stops
I
mean,
in
fact
it
goes
in
and
out
in
the
morning,
comes
in
the
tank.
It's
looking
bad.
M
You
know,
that's
something
that
we
that
we
figured
out
over
time,
because
customers
will
come
up
to
the
answers.
We've
just
stop
loading
themselves,
they're
accelerating,
and
you
know
that
kind
of
thing
eliminate
98
of
that
problem.
So
you
know
it's
little
things
like
that.
Customers
teach
us
what
they're
comfortable
way
and
what
they're?
Not
so
so.
F
B
Needs
to
be
I
also
want
to
check
in
on
the
the
exit
left
only
sign
so
there's
a
temporary
sign
that
would
go
in
and
out
and
on.
The
temporary
sign.
You've
got
a
picture
of
something
that
looks
like
a
relatively
normal
traffic
sign
and
I
wonder
if
we
wouldn't
be
better
off
with
just
a
relatively
normal
traffic
sign.
F
B
B
I,
don't
think
you
can
give
up
your
cyanide
I,
don't
think
you
can
have
the
entrance
that
you
have
and
need
people
to
go
around
that
corner
and
not
have
Asylum.
That
sign
is
also
a
direction
inside.
M
B
I
I
I
I,
hear
you
I,
hear
you,
but
at
the
same
time,
between
a
c
and
d,
that's
a
lot
of
very
visible,
illuminated
sign
kind
of
all
pointing
the
same
direction.
B
Not
quite
but
you
know
it's
all
three
root:
13
illuminated
signs
right
succession
and
so
I
I
I
think
it's
it's
too
much
and
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
prescribe
not
too
much,
but
I
think
there
is
a
consensus
in
this
room
that
it's
too
much
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
hammer
out
what
stays
and
what
goes
in
this
room
tonight
or
if
you
just
want
to
come
back
with
something
that
is
a
little
less.
Can.
M
So
when
I
put
the
signed
package
together-
and
you
know-
I
spoke
to
you
about
this,
because
I
was
confused
when
we
had
to
come
back,
but
Iggy
explained
that
very
clearly.
So
we
referenced
the
sign
lawn
and
the
code
and
the
zoning
of
the
site,
and
within
that
code
we
were
entitled
if
you
will
to
200
feet
of
signage,
and
there
was
specific
things
in
the
sign
law
that
the
pylon
sign
a
did
not
exceed
50
feet.
M
It
had
to
be
within
certain
setback
requirements
and
it
could
only
be
a
certain
type
and
so
that
to
us
was
most
important
sign.
It's
the
same
exact
size
points
it
that
way
as
a
sign
that
we
have
on
Trump,
timer
Road,
and
so
we
started
there.
So
there's
50
foot
signage
and
then
we
started
taking
a
look
at
the
wall
signs
within
the
sign
law,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna
and.
M
Like
we
can,
we
can
see
so
in
summary,
that's
where
the
sign
package
came
from
sure
it
came
off
the
signal.
I
think
we
were
entitled
to
this
we'll
say
within
that,
but
now
that
we're
back
it
doesn't
work
that
way.
We
we
need
to
I
need
to
respond
to
him,
so
what
I
would
pose
is
that
a
and
I
thought
of
this
and
I
think
rob
you
were
the
one
who
has
brought
this
up.
M
What
came
up
through
the
planning
process
was
long
busy
days.
We
put
a
sign
out
at
the
other
location
377
on
my
own
Road,
instructing
people
to
make
a
write
out
once
again
once
we
did
that,
and
we
did
that
with
windjam
or
something,
and
we
put
it
out
on
busy
days.
We
know
that
that
works,
and
so
that
is
what
the
board
requested.
That
idea.
M
So
the
other
thing
that
that
the
board
really
everyone
was,
was
a
little
concerned
about
assign
D
on
the
front
of
the
building.
So
why
that
science
is
four
by
eight
sign,
so
we
can
check
that
out
and
remove
it.
I
do
agree
that
I
think
the
building
might
look
a
lot
a
little
better.
It's
a
beautiful
building
and
you
know
that
came
off
the
truck
ham
road.
We
had
that
sign
there,
because
that
is
75
feet
from
the
road
sure.
M
M
We
eliminate
the
LED
lighting
on
the
pole,
which
I
agree
with
and
I.
Also
the
president
there
we
have
other
people
coming
in
which
I
think
was
another
good
point
and
we're
there.
Unless
we
have
other
problem,
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
to
avoid
them.
Go.
D
D
Not
have
to
be
an
internal
alienated
and
so,
and
that
could
change
the
way.
The
whole
sign
package
also
especially
and
enter
entering
and
exiting
signage.
We
have
just
had
a
situation
in
which
there
were
pedestrian
conflicts,
because
they're
of
an
island
enter
an
exit
sign
and
right
at
the
entrance
of
like
this
is
I
know
you
want
to
make
your
drivers
comfortable,
but
this
is
a
sidewalk
and
so
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
size
and
location
of
that
sign
and
how
it
might
obstruct
the
view
of
people.
D
D
B
So
I
don't
think
we're
necessarily
there
on
a
vote
even
without
the
and
the
LEDs
I.
Think
without
being
the
LEDs
we're
a
lot
closer
but
I
don't
I,
don't
think
that
gets
a
yes
vote
tonight.
You
know
I
mean
we'd
have
to
afford
the
fine
and
I
just
I
I.
Don't
see
that
shaken
out
that
way,
so
I
think
it
makes
the
most
sense
to
come
back
next
month
with
another
version
of
this
and
I
can
see
the
frustration
on
your
face
and
I'm
sympathetic
to
it.
G
You
know
what
what
what's
done
here,
we'll
probably
be
imitated
right
and
people
will
look
at
it
as
a
standard
and
if
you
can
have
a
really
great
sign
that
looks
way
better
than
the
fast
food
chains
down
the
road
or
the
car
dealerships,
you're,
the
one
that
benefits
and
then
the
rest
of
the
community
when
people
follow
suit.
G
So
it's
just
about
you
know:
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
think
of
going
off
the
bat
in
town
and
if
it's
specifically
the
the
the
sign
on
the
poll
that
we
would
like
to
see
either
lit
from
up
lighting
or
yeah.
D
D
F
D
Know
it
can
be
a
wall
sign
with
down
Lighting
on
it
could
be
a
nice
wooden
sign
with
down
Lighting
on
it.
I
would
love
to
see
that.
B
So
I'm
going
to
take
the
other,
the
other
side
of
that
and
I
think
I'm
gonna
ask
it
with
the
applicant
to
try
to
let
this
conversation
be
as
much
between
staff
and
board
as
possible.
I
think
that's!
What's
going
to
help
us
move
forward,
so
everybody
here
knows
where
I
that
I
work
for
green
star
it
kills
me.
The
green
star
does
not
have
an
eternally
an
internally
illuminated
pile
on
the
side.
We
are
tucked
behind
a
gas
station.
B
We
are
hard
to
find
and
our
signage
is
not
a
big
bright
thing.
That's
meant
for
cars,
it's
you
know
it
doesn't
work
and
I
am
not
excited
to
try
to
force
a
car
oriented
business
into
a
non-carborated
oriented
signing
strategy,
which
is
why
I
think
the
a
is
the
sign
that
matters
right
like
I
kind
of
think
that
the
the
the
way
you
split
the
baby
here
is
like
no
C,
no
D
figure
out
something
else
for
e
A
and
B.
B
Here
right
like
to
me,
that's
the
deal
to
make
because
a
is
the
sign
that
matters.
A
is
the
sign
that
says:
hey
car,
here's,
a
car
oriented
sign
right
where
you
need
to
turn
a
is
the
most
critical
sign.
I
I.
Thank
you,
sir,
so
that
that's
where
I
that's!
Where
I
fall
down,
you
know,
I
mean
I,
I!
Think.
B
Make
it
the
only
right
answer
and
I
agree
with
Lisa
that
there's
probably
some
better
strategies
than
internal
illumination,
but
if
I,
if
I
were
thinking
about
this
with
my
If
This
Were,
my
business
I
were
trying
to
get
the
thing
that
made
it
worth
my
customers
I
think
I
would
give
up
everything
but
a
but
really
really
really
try
to
hold
it,
which
is
not
what
the
applicant
is
necessarily
doing.
B
Right,
like
I
mean
he's,
got
his
own
strategy
and
that's
fine
we're
just
trying
to
think
about
trying
trying
to
balance
those
interests.
That's
where
I
come
down
and
I
would
hear
other
thoughts.
E
I
mean
I
I'm
fine,
with
a
as
described,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
downwind
instead
of
internal
illuminated
great
that's
a
great
idea.
I
hadn't,
even
thought
of
that
getting
rid
of
d,
as
was
suggested
I,
think,
is
great.
It's
a
great
concession
and
a
permanent
left.
Only
I'm
Titus
I'm
there
I'm
close
really.
B
B
No,
no
I
mean
we're
talking
about
a
sign,
that's
not
in
front
of
us
but,
like
you
know
and
I
think
there's
a
reason.
That's
not
an
aesthetic
different
reason.
You
know
for
why
audible,
more
important
businesses
pick
internally
illuminated
signs
and
I
think
we
are
in
a
in
an
area
that
is
auto
oriented
for
a
business
that
is
already
oriented
and
I.
Think
we
ought
to
allow
one
Auto
oriented,
sign
and
I'm
willing
to
say
it
needs
to
be
just
one
and
I.
G
Think
that's
the
one
I
I,
even
sort
of
I
should
have
said
enough
about
this
topic,
but
I
I,
think
one
there's
a
very
interesting
and
potentially
very
favorable
sort
of
marketing
strategy.
You've
been
signed
is
different
than
all
the
other
signs
that
are
are
on
the
stream
by
making
it
a
sign
that
is
lit
in
a
different
way.
Also,
you
know
when
an
internally
lit
side
is
lit
by
the
sun.
It
isn't
very
interesting,
but
it's
either
depth
or
a
wooden
side.
It
stands
out
quite
a
bit.
G
The
other
thing
it'll
say
is
a
lot
of
these
signs
are
an
inheritance
of
a
non-digital
world
right
majority
of
people
that
are
finding
you
are
finding
you
through
digital
platforms
and
they're
being
directed
through
digital
wayfinding
into
these
places.
Right
I
mean
I,
know
that
I
know
that
you
know.
That's
not
that
isn't
the
solution
for
everything
but
like,
for
example,
Cornell
University
used
to
have
a
lot
of
these
wayfinding
booths
where
people
would
stop
and
say
where
do
I
go?
G
G
So
that's
my
perspective,
I
think
you
know
I
I,
don't
think
that
yeah
I
I,
don't
think
that
these
kinds
of
sides
will
persist
too
much
longer,
because
weight
binding
will
get
far
more
intuitive
and
even
better
and
the
screens
in
our
in
our
cars
will
get
even
larger,
that's
inevitable.
So
that's
my
two
cents
I
appreciate
the
applicant
for
being
flexible,
but
most
of
this
is
in
your
defense.
You
have
a
really
great
building
and
and
I'm
gonna
yeah
cut.
D
D
B
D
A
M
So
delete
D.
You
know
begin
with
that
permanent
left
out
sign
on
to
Titus
there's
been
concern
about
the
exit
enter
sign
once
again
more
on
timers.
There
they're
not
going
to
be
on
all
night
right,
so
they
like
that
those
signs
will
be
controlled,
based
on
closing
and
opening
an
hour
after
closing,
and
we
can
come
off
my
hour
sign,
which
saves
the
hours
there.
M
F
D
Question
make
it
the
same
size
as
B.
F
B
C
D
B
B
Things
up
for
discussion
and
we're
gonna
craft
this
amendment
and
we're
going
to
vote
on
the
amendment
once
and
then
we'll
vote
on
the
resolution.
But
the
amendment
will
take
some
crafting.
B
F
B
F
B
B
M
C
B
You
anything
else
that
goes
in
that
Amendment.
Is
there
a
motion
for
said
amendment
I
saw
God,
move
and
train
a
second
all
right.
Roll
call
vote
on
the
amendment
Patrina.
F
B
Okay,
great
I,
guess
and
I
am
also
a
yes,
so
the
amendment
is
passed.
The
resolution
now
has
the
conditions
as
described.
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
resolution
as
a
whole?
I
saw
Katrina
move
and
got
in
a
second
I
feel
like
I'm
skipping
over
Correa
all
night,
because
he's
in
the
corner
of
my
eye,
I
apologize
moving
straight
into
a
roll
call
vote
Katrina.
Yes,.
D
M
D
M
You
were
getting
there
tonight,
I
didn't
think
so,
but
you
know
there's
supply
chain
issues
right
now
that
are
unbelievable,
I'm
six
weeks
behind
on
this
bill,
just
because
three
weeks
with
the
stylings
three
weeks
on
rebar
and
so
we're
really
working
hard
to
get
things
ordered.
Perhaps
six
months
before.
F
B
B
Up,
we
have
605
South
Albany
Street,
which
is
exacerbating
an
existing
deficiency
to
have
a
second
primary
structure.
B
There
are
things
we
could
say
about
supporting
that.
As
you
know,
it's
something
that
I
would
certainly
support,
but
in
terms
of
tying
it
into
things
that
the
zoning
board
cares
about.
I
would
accept
guidance.
B
M
C
B
E
B
B
Not
that
they
don't
take
it
seriously,
it's
just
we're,
sometimes
not
speaking
the
same
language
yeah,
and
this
is
something
where
I
really
like
to
speak
their
language,
because
I
really
like
it
to
get
its
approval.
F
J
J
D
D
J
D
It
has
the
required
amount
of
Turkey,
so
that's
you.
B
Somebody
mentioned
something
about
the
comprehensive
plan
I
think
earlier
in
regards
to
this,
although
I'm
not
actually
up
to
speed
as.
B
B
D
B
C
F
J
F
B
Yeah
I
would
say
no
long-term
planning
impacts
and
that
you
know
we
encourage
homeowner
Investments
along
these
lines.
B
B
Okay,
I
think
that's
done.
Emily
Trina.
I
B
D
Constantly
changing
my
screen
time,
I'm,
sorry,
not
planning
board,
I
apologize
and
there
wasn't
much
princesses.
D
Three
out
of
five,
though
bonus
Friday
at
one
and
the
other
time,
is
Thursday
at
8
30.
C
J
L
I
B
Which,
like
is
that
eight
to
nine
inch
time
like
that
is
just
getting
super
hard
and
it's
only
going
to
get
harder
and
yeah
I
feel,
like
you
know,
noon.
H
D
I
F
B
B
J
D
Have
you
seen
any
proposals
for
the
corner
of
State
Street
in
Geneva
the
family
medicine
program.