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B
C
E
A
All
right
well
now
that
we've
plugged
things
back
in
I'm,
gonna
plug
it
in
and
everything's
working,
we'll
have
introductions
for
our
two
remaining
board
member
members,
Emily.
A
Great,
that
is
the
crew
now
before
we
get
into
a
gender
review.
I
do
want
to
mention
for
the
record
that
we
do
have
two
members
who
are
participate
in
remotely
tonight,
that
is
in
accordance
with
local
law.
20
to
22-05
also
apply
for
that
law,
where
you
have
a
forum
physically
present
in
the
room
and
our
remote
members
will
be
voted
like
they
were
here
in
the
room
with
us
due
to
extraordinary
circumstances.
With
that,
we
will
move
straight
into
agenda
review
Nikki.
Are
there
any
changes
in
the
agenda.
F
A
Great,
so
that
means
we
all
get
out.
8
35
stay
on
track.
We
also
have
on
the
agenda
approval
of
minutes
for
August
September
on
October
2022.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
those
events,
my
sweet
Elizabeth
move
and
Mitch?
Second?
Is
there
any
discussion
desired
for
those
minutes,
seeing
none
I'll
go
straight
into
a
vote.
I
believe
this
is
a
roll
call
vote.
So
I'll
start
with
a
little
bit.
A
A
I'm
also
a
yes.
Those
minutes
are
unanimously
approved.
That
brings
us
to
public
comments,
because
we
do
have
people
physically
in
the
room
with
us,
which
is
a
rarity.
A
recent
experience.
I'll
start
there.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
before
the
board.
A
A
H
Thank
you
very
much
as
as
the
gentleman
said,
our
my
name
is
Peter
Bloom
I'm
here
with
my
wife
Janet,
and
we
own
the
home
that
abuts
the
eastern
border
of
the
site
of
the
gun,
Factory
and
the
breeze
development.
We
originally
supported
the
development
to
this
planning
board
for
two
reasons:
one
the
environmental
benefit
to
the
community
of
cleaning
up
the
Brownfield
is
significant.
H
The
second
is
that
we'll
add
significant
tax
dollars
to
the
tax
base
of
Ithaca,
which
is
a
good
thing
for
all
of
us.
Also.
We
have
very
cordial
negotiations
with
the
developer,
who
accommodated
some
of
our
requests
specific
to
our
property,
which
we
appreciate,
and
as
recently
as
today,
he
sent
us
a
very
cordial
note
about
some
of
the
issues
that
we
have
concerns
about.
We
do
not,
however,
support
the
request
for
the
zoning
variants,
which
we
were
unaware
of
until
we
received
the
letter
last
week
from
the
city.
H
We
believe
the
deviation
from
current
zoning
is
unjustified,
excessive
and
has
no
benefit
for
the
community
number
one.
The
variance
is
only
justified
by
the
developer,
to
quote
not
lessen
the
quality
of
life
inside
the
apartments.
A
more
typical
floor.
Height
is
11,
feet
closed
quote
so
most
of
the
people
in
our
community,
including
us,
live
in
buildings
with
eight
nine
and
ten
foot,
ceilings
which
are
more
than
adequate,
and
the
developer
can
easily
rent
this
building
with
10-foot
ceilings
so
to
Grant.
This
significant
deviation,
just
for
ceiling
height
in
our
view,
is
unjustified.
H
Secondly,
the
developers
currently
being
sued
by
tenants
in
another
of
his
Ithaca
developments
on
South
Hill,
due
to
shoddy
Construction.
We
did
not.
We
were
not
aware
of
that
when
we
supported
the
original
development,
we
are
now
seriously
concerned
that
the
developer
will
not
adhere
to
the
plans
he
has
submitted,
as
proven
by
the
South
Hill
site.
If
the
gun
Factory
development
is
as
flawed
as
the
South
Hill
development,
it
will
be
adverse
for
the
entire
community.
H
Another
point
is
that
Janet
and
I
really
believe
in
affordable
housing.
We
think
it's
very
important
for
Ithaca.
We
know
our
neighbors
feel
the
same
way.
A
lot
of
communities
do
not
allow
development
of
a
project.
This
large,
without
a
set
aside
for
affordable
housing,
we
encourage
the
board
to
consider
the
opportunity
to
mandate
some
portion
of
the
project
to
be
more
affordable
than
the
unaffordable
housing
that
the
developers
built
in
several
other
Ithaca
locations.
H
We
believe
the
site
can
and
should
be
developed
without
a
change
to
current
zoning
is
the
responsibility
of
the
developer.
To
prove
this
is
not
the
case.
11
foot
ceilings
are
not
a
sufficient
justification
for
such
radical
deviation.
From
current
zoning.
We
encourage
you
to
recommend
to
the
bza
that
they
defer
or
deny
the
zoning
variance
request
until
the
developer
advances
an
argument
for
more
than
just
higher
ceilings
and
agrees
to
set
aside
some
number
of
apartments
for
more
affordable
rent.
H
B
A
I
Can
you
hear
me
we
can
all
right
hi
good
evening,
so
my
name
is
Samantha
Trumbo,
my
husband
and
I
own
and
live
in
the
home
at
115,
Lake
Street,
which
is
immediately
adjacent
to
this
proposed
development
of
the
Breeze
Apartments
I
spoke
at
a
couple
of
the
previous
meetings,
a
while
back
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
some
of
my
concerns
and
I.
Second,
a
lot
of
the
things
that
that
Peter
just
said,
I
didn't
know
about
the
the
allegations
of
shoddy
construction
and
that
that
does
concern
me.
I
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
glad
that
the
site
will
be
cleaned
up
and
turned
into
housing.
That
will
be
useful
for
the
community
and
I
appreciate
bism's
plan
to
put
in
a
public
Overlook
of
the
gorge
and
above
Ithaca
Falls.
I
However,
that
said,
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
really
feel
that
the
project
needs
to
be
undertaken
with
serious
respect
for
the
surrounding
neighbors.
The
history
of
the
site
and
the
natural
landscape
in
which
it
is
set.
I
feel
that
the
project
also
should
not
be
permit
to
exceed
the
zoning
height
limit
of
40
feet
and
that
no
variance
should
be
granted
on
that
front,
even
if
it
results
in
a
building
of
fewer
stories
like
Ravenwood
Apartments,
which
is
just
up
the
street
at
Lake
and
University
I.
I
Don't
think
it's
an
unreasonable
thing
to
ask
the
developer
to
work
within
the
rules
on
this
one.
It's
a
really
unique
site.
It's
a
unique
neighborhood
and
I
just
think
there
needs
to
be
a
respectful
balance
that
is
struck
beyond
that.
My
chief
concerns
are
mostly
to
do
with
traffic
noise
disruption
and
environmental
contamination.
I
I've
said
most
of
this
before,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
if
the
project
were
to
continue,
we
would
really
seek
conversations
and
agreements
between
the
residents
and
the
developers,
perhaps
to
avoid
early
morning
evening
or
weekend
construction
and
also
just
transparency
surrounding
how
the
cleanup
is
going
and
whether
or
not
there's
any
concern
for
for
dust
pollution
of
the
surrounding
properties.
I
would
expect
there
to
be
really
serious
mitigation
strategies.
I
Pollution
monitors
set
up
that
sort
of
thing,
so
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
that
I
feel
that
any
construction
on
this
site
should
be
approached
with
caution,
attention
to
detail
and
respect
for
for
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
natural
environment
and
a
principal
concern
for
the
potential
impact
on
neighbors.
So
with
that
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
time
to
speak
and
have
a
good
evening.
B
A
J
Great
hi,
my
name
is
Eric
Sawyer
I'm,
the
husband
of
Samantha
Trumbo,
who
just
spoke
resident
owner
of
115
Lake
Street,
just
down
for
from
the
proposed
Breeze
Apartments
I'd
like
to
start
off
by
saying
that
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
adding
new
housing
to
Ithaca,
to
reduce
the
high
rinse
that
mainly
people
are
facing
across
the
city,
so
I'm
in
general,
and
supportive
of
a
development
on
the
gun,
Factory
site
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
done
properly.
J
J
J
Furthermore,
I'd
like
to
board
the
board's
more,
can
seriously
consider
the
addition
of
protected
bike
Lanes
whenever
possible,
including
on
Lake
Street.
This
is
only
one
of
three
major
construction
projects
being
considered
on
this
stretch
of
road,
the
others
being
the
Shabbat
Center
Edition
and
the
Autumn
2
project
I.
Think
it's
easy
to
say.
Protected
bike
lanes
are
not
possible
in
this
instance.
For
this
reason,
or
that
reason
and
I
end
up
always
finding
a
reason
for
any
project
instead
of
just
finding
Solutions
and
making
it
happen.
D
A
Is
that
it
for
method,
great
and
then
next
up
I
believe
we
have
comments
that
have
been
prepared
that
members
of
the
public
have
requested
to
be
read
under
the
record.
Yes,.
F
Timing,
yes,
this
is
from
Margarita
oops
marker.
This
one
is
from
margaritavizio
105
cascadillo
Park
Road.
Do
you
have
plenty
of
board
members?
I
would
like
to
pick
a
few
comments
regarding
or
very
surprised
for,
the
breeze
project
plan
for
the
Gun
Site.
First
surrounding
only
works
at
protecting
neighborhoods.
If
there
are
not
exemption
certain
rules,
developers
come
this
far
in
the
process
with
a
four-story
building
plan.
It's
nothing
short
of
disigenous
that
the
project
now
suddenly
needs
to
be
a
story
higher.
F
It
feels
more
like
a
plan
tactic,
it's
hard
to
imagine
why
the
ceiling
height
needs
to
change
from
10
to
11
P,
especially
when
typical
height
is
more
eight
to
nine,
and
given
the
standard
it's
hard
to
justify
the
need
for
adding
another
floor
to
the
project.
Clearly,
this
extra
amenity
will
just
add
to
asking
price
the
apartment,
given
that
market
rate
and
Ithaca
is
already
three
to
four
thousand
dollars
per
month.
This
does
not
seem
like
a
positive
prevention
further.
F
F
Secondly,
increasing
this
effect
pushes
the
building
closer
to
the
forage,
and
the
public
space
also
makes
it
more
visible
from
below.
This
would
also
go
against
protection
of
the
Natural
Area.
Thirdly,
the
only
traffic
related
information
I
saw
in
the
project
was
a
study
submitted
by
the
outfit
and
it
seems
getting
a
more
thorough
objective
analysis
is
more
interested.
What
has
what
was
submitted?
Didn't
mention
the
Lincoln
Street
Lake
Street
intersection,
and
this
is
noteworthy
because
there
are
already
frequent
traffic
backups
along
with
the
street.
F
Often
only
one
lane
read
that,
then
two
cars
can
pass
through
Lincoln
Street
at
one
time.
How
much
worse
will
this
get
with
additional
traffic
that
will
be
gener
and
that
will
generate,
and
how
will
this
be
mitigated?
I
would
like
to
suggest
the
neighborhood
deserves
a
more
thorough
traffic
study
from
a
firm
of
the
city's
choosing
before
proceeding
program
of
the
description.
Thank
you.
F
Gamma
Delta
gamma,
Theta,
Property
association,
Edward,
Rice
and
treasurer
here
is
Nicholas
gamut,
Theta
property
associations
of
the
Alumni
Association
that
owns
the
property
located
at
230
Willard
way
in
the
city
of
America,
on
which
the
sigma
new
fraternity
Lodge
is
located.
The
fraternity
luggage
has
was
constructed
in
1910
and
that's
been
owned
and
maintained
by
the
annotated
Property
association
for
over
110
years.
Gamma
data
Property
association
opposes
the
proposed
apartment
building
on
the
property
at
121-125
Lake
Street.
F
Our
opposition
is
primarily
based
on
the
dramatic
adverse
debatable
impact
of
the
front
proposed
apartment
building
would
have
on
our
view
of
the
beautiful
Valley
located
south
of
kayaking
from
our
fraternities
parking
lot
and
backyard,
as
well
as
from
our
fraternity.
Lodge
itself
attached
is
a
color
rendering
showing
the
location
of
the
proposed
apartment.
Building
the
north
wall,
which
is
directly
aligned
with
the
existing
entry
guns,
who
did
the
good
gun
smokestack
and
an
aerial
photograph
showing
how
large
the
apartment
building
will
be.
F
I
also
attached
our
several
photographs,
showing
the
view
of
Craig
Lake
and
the
Valley
located
south
of
the
lake
in
the
fraternity's
backyard
in
parking
lot.
All
of
which
show
the
location
of
the
existing
Ithaca
smokestack.
These
attached
photographs
clearly
demonstrate
that
the
proposed
apartment
building
will
block
our
view
of
the
Valley
located
south
of
Cayuga
Lake
from
our
fraternity's
parking
lot
backyard
and
fraternity.
Parish
gamma,
Theta,
Property
association
will
also
be
submitting
comments
to
the
board
of
for
the
zoning
appeal
goes
into
height
under
your
setback.
A
So
there
is
a
time
for
us
to
respond
to
public
comment.
We
don't
often
do
that.
I
will
say
a
couple
things
just
from
what
it
might
be
some
misinterpretations
about
our
process
or
may
not
be
depending
on
you
know
who
says
what
but
I'll
say
that
we
don't
approve
variances.
A
If
board
does
not
approve
various
experiences,
the
board
is
only
appeals,
approved
variances
and
we
give
a
recommendation
to
them
as
part
of
their
process
and
it's
time
for
us
to
do
that
recommendation
and
all
likely
that
tonight
this
project
has
been
before
us
since
April
the
variances
as
I
understand
it
don't
represent
a
change
to
the
project.
A
There
are
things
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
some
time
and
the
issues
that
were
mentioned
or
things
by
and
large
that
we
have
dug
into
over
the
course
of
our
view
of
this
project
and
I'm
sure
that
we'll
just
talk
about
some
of
those
issues
again
tonight
foreign.
A
But
it's
not
necessarily
our
decision.
What
the
variance
is
on
you
know.
That's
that's
not
our
call.
We
have
our
own
process
that
centers
around
planning
issues
rather
than
zoning
issues,
and
we
have
been
undertaking
that
process
on
this
project
for
postal
year.
We'll
continue
with
tonight
and
I
do
appreciate
the
public
engagement
on
this
project
because
it's
important
any
other
member
of
the
board
wishing
to
respond
to
public
comment
same
none
first
up
is
a
special
permit
on
309
East
Lincoln
Street
for
free
through
hair
salon.
K
K
Okay,
I'm
Rick
page
and
my
son,
Zach
and
Jeff
Musselman
being
said
on
the
phone
are
the
partners
of
the
Lincoln
Street
Properties
known
as
Lincoln
Street
Enterprises
foreign.
K
Our
proposal
is
pretty
simple:
we're
we're
asking
basically
to
have
the
hours
changed
for
the
salon.
It's
now
Monday
through
Friday
I.
Believe
it's
eight
to
nine
now
and
there
were
a
lot
of
Robbie's
clients
want
to
get
their.
You
know
their
haircut
off
hours,
so
it's
inconvenient
for
or
not
being
able
to.
K
You
know
Services
customers
on
the
weekends
when
they
prefer
to
have
their
haircut
and
actually,
if
you
found
out
today,
which
I
didn't
know
that
Nancy
green
I
think
it
was,
her
name
actually
has
been
doing
it
for
many
many
years
on,
Saturdays
I
didn't
even
know
that
I
was
touring
another
building
today
with
a
realtor,
and
she
said
well,
I
used
to
get
my
haircut
there
all
the
time
on
Saturdays,
so
I
guess
the
president
has
already
been
said
for
for
Robbie
and
I'll.
Let
him
him
speak
here.
K
You
know
he
take.
He
takes,
he
doesn't
take
walk-ins.
All
of
his
clients
are
are
by
appointment.
There's
parking
there
dedicated
parking
since
we've
owned
the
property.
We've
never
had
issues
with
parking,
because
both
the
diner
and
the
Salon
had
their
their
own
parking
and
I
know.
For
Robbie,
this
is
a
financial
issue
as
well.
K
It's
do.
L
You
want
to
show
us
so
I've
been
doing,
hair
and
Ithaca
for
about
10
years
now,
and
it's
pretty
Universal
that
salons
in
town
will
operate
at
5,
00
PM,
because
the
client's
house
schedules
just
more
flexibility
and
I'm
open
to
taking
walk-ins,
but
right
now
it's
really
tricky
because
I'm,
just
mostly
catering
to
my
existing
clientele
and
I,
would
like
to
invite
potential
new
clients
to
come
in,
but
with
lemonade
hours,
it's
hard
to
do
that
and
I'm
really
just
kind
of
taking
care
of
my
existing
clients,
but
as
a
new
business
I'm,
definitely
needing
to
build
that
up.
L
So
this
is
kind
of
getting
in
the
way
of
that
I.
Don't
plan
on
being
open
seven
days
a
week,
I
would
be
closed,
Sundays
and
Mondays.
Again,
that's
pretty
common
or
salons
that
I
know
of
in
the
area,
so
I
would
functionally
be
opening
Tuesday
through
Saturday,
with
potentially
one
or
two
nights
right
now.
It's
just
me
working
there.
So
it's
not
really
a
high
traffic,
sometimes
I
double
book.
But
that
means
it's
only
two
other
clients.
In
myself.
L
This
will
also,
if
I'm
able
to
operate,
extend
hours.
I
will
be
more
likely
to
get
another
stylist
willing
to
come
in
and
Booth
rent,
which
will
help
assisting
the
business
and
cater
to
the
community
more.
But
with
these
specific
times,
it's
going
to
be
really
tricky
to
find
another
stylist
to
want
to
come
in
and
work
those
specific
hours
great.
A
I
think
that's
helpful
for
us
understanding
what
we're
talking
about
so
we're
talking
about
a
change
in
hours
for
a
special
permit
that
exists
for
an
existing
use
on
in
an
existing
business.
There's
a
number
of
actions
we
got
to
take
on
this.
We've
got
three
resolutions
in
the
public
hearing.
I'll
look
for
a
motion
on
the
first
resolution,
which
is
Declaration
of
lead
agency.
That's
the
Elizabeth
move
in
mid.
Second,
any
discussion
on
the
quaranteed
agency
on
this
saying
now:
we'll
move
into
a
roll
call
vote
Elizabeth.
A
G
A
I'm
also
a
yes,
so
you
do
have
a
lead
agent.
Next
up
would
be
a
potential
negative
Declaration
of
environmental
impact.
On
this
there
is
a
short
environmental
assessment
form
that
does
not
find
any
environmental
impact
in
our
packet.
I
would
go
ahead
and
take
a
motion
for
the
negative
on
the
special
permit.
I
see,
Elizabeth,
move
and
Daniel's.
Second,
any
discussion.
I'm,
sorry.
F
Oh
I'm,
sorry
Daniel,
a
bench
Mitch
moved.
A
Emily
I
said
Emily
and
Daniel
any
discussion
all
right,
no
discussion
moving
into
a
roll
call
vote,
Elizabeth.
A
I
am
also
a
yes,
so
we
have
a
neck
deck
on
this
project.
That
brings
us
to
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
a
motion
to
open
public
hearing
I,
see
Emily
move
in
Daniel
II,
all
those
in
favor
of
opening
public
hearing
all
right
that
was
unanimous
public
hearing
is
now
open.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
or
war
on
the
special
permanent,
seeing
none
in
the
room?
Is
there
anybody
online?
A
A
L
F
D
F
M
Okay,
so
I'm
Laura
Mattis
from
Vision
development,
together
with
me,
I
have
Julia
from
bism
as
well
in
Eric
from
swbr
and
we'll
be
discussing
the
breeze
as
we
share
during
the
PRC
meeting.
M
M
M
We
don't
have
it
in
many
locations,
but
we
believe
that
it
has
a
lot
of
benefits
in
this
project,
as
we
can
contrast,
the
small
size
of
the
brick
with
the
larger
panels
of
the
ephes
and,
as
you
can
see
in
as
a
progress
from
the
last
images
that
we've
been
showing,
we
removed
the
section
that
we
had
here.
That
was
touching
the
ground
floor
so
right
now
there
is
no
connection
between
the
material
and
the
floor,
which
would
be
better
for
keeping
it
clean.
M
We
also
made
sure
that
we
revisit
our
drawings
and
there
are
no
like
significant,
no
penetrations,
actually
at
all
on
this
main
facade.
That
was
one
of
the
questions
I
believe
Emily
raised
in
our
last
meeting,
so
that
I
think
will
also
help
avoiding
issues
like,
for
instance,
other
projects
in
town
have
where
you
can
see
marks
on
the
facade.
M
One
of
the
main
benefits
that
we
believe
of
this
material
is
enhanced.
Continuous
insulation,
which
is
over
what
other
materials
can
provide.
M
I
think
this
goes
very
in
line
with
the
city's
in
terms
of
making
buildings
more
efficient
and
like
from
an
energy
perspective.
As
I
said,
it
allows
us
to
give
more
design
flexibility.
M
M
We
brought
a
few
examples
of
projects
that
had
similar
applications,
so
larger
panels
of
ifas
are
contrasting
like
materials
in
color.
These
are
other
examples
as
well
and
I
know.
One
of
the
comments
that
was
brought
up
during
the
meeting
was
related
to
construction
process.
I,
don't
know
Eric.
If
you
want
to
talk
anything
specifically
about
these
images,
yep.
N
Sure
so
yeah
this
image
here
really
just
speaking
again
to
The
Continuous
insulation
that
goes
on
before
there
truly
is
no
Fasteners
or
no
thermal
Bridges.
With
this
product,
the
the
material
gets
attached
up
and
then
the
Finish
is
applied
directly
on
top
of
the
installation,
so
really
great
from
a
thermal
performance,
standpoint
and
I.
Think
if
you
go
next
image
Laura.
N
These
are
just
some
of
the
construction
details
more
close-up
accident
metrics
of
how
the
reveals
work
and
the
fact
that
we're,
including
you
know,
a
water,
resistive
barrier
and
then
the
nostril
that
allow
promotes
drainage
and
the
insulation
over
top
of
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
include.
C
N
Just
a
couple
more
images,
you've
got
all
the
typical
joints
work
and
then
here
are
the
window
details.
So
like
I,
like
Laura
mentioned,
we
have
two
inches
I'm,
getting
an
internet
connection
unstable.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
oh.
M
Worries
Eric
I
can
jump
in
so
I
feel
like
one
of
the
comments
that
we
got
on
the
last
meeting
was
related
to
that.
To
now
have
the
windows
kind
of
like
on
the
same
level
of
the
facade,
we
do
have
this
return,
which
make
which
gives
more
movement
on
the
facade
as
well.
M
I'm
sure
Eric
could
speak
a
bit
more
in
detail
about
the
the
those
images
but
I
think
this
is
the
main
point
that
we
would
like
to
share
and
one
other
question
that
we
got
in
the
last
meeting
was
like.
We
would
like
to
see
applications
of
these
materials
that
one
of
us,
like
one
of
our
team
team
members,
already
constructed
with
similar
weather
location,
weather
situations,
so
this
is
a
project
that
swbr
designed
with
aphis
and
they
it's
been
passed
through
time.
M
It's
working,
it's
looking
really
good
in
a
similar
weather,
condition
same
thing
with
this
one
where
they
have
the
penetrations
and
it's
not
looking
like
stained
or
anything
like
that.
M
The
wood
look
siding
that
we've
been
proposing.
This
is
another
project
from
swbr,
where
you
can
see
those
installed
and
then
one
comment
that
I
believe
Nikki
raised
in
the
last
meeting
was
about
the
elevations
and
the
HVAC
locations.
As
you
know,
there
is
a
development
agreement
that
set
a
few
requirements
for
this
project.
One
of
them
is
that
we
cannot
have
equipment
on
the
roof.
We
made
some
studies
to
see
where
we
could
place
those
that
wouldn't
be
basically
perceived
by
any
other
neighboring
properties.
M
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
place
the
building
on
on
the
surround
on
the
side,
and
if
you
look
at
this
image,
this
is
how
it
would
be
without
any
vegetation,
but
it's
a
very.
We
went
there
and
it's
a
very
dense
vegetation,
even
over
the
winter,
it's
not
completely
empty.
M
So
we
strongly
believe
that
this
will
not
even
be
seen
as
is
and
I
think
it
kind
of
like
helps
with
the
the
concern
of
some
of
the
neighbors
around,
but
regarding
views
and
things
like
that,
the
roof
will
be
a
more
clean
roof
than
we
see
in
typical
multi-family
projects.
M
M
One
thing
that
I'd
like
to
clarify:
we
are
the
the
height
variance
it's
the
11
feet
that
was
raised
by
some
of
the
comments
from
the
public.
It's
still
ceiling.
How
did
you
say,
Eric
I
believe
he
said.
M
This
floor,
yes
yeah,
so
it's
floor
to
floor,
which
results
in
less
than
nine
feet
ceiling
internally.
So
it's
it
is
in
line
with
what
other
projects
are
are
built
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
height
variance
the
project
in
a
number
of
Stories.
The
project
itself
has
most
most
of
it
has
four
stories
with
a
basement.
There
is
a
section
small
part
of
it
that
this,
the
the
level
of
the
the
the
the
site
drops
and
exposes
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
that
basement,
making
it
more
like.
M
M
We
just
want
to
confirm
and
emphasize
that
there
will
be
no
variances
required
for
fire
truck,
because
we
were
able
to
confirm
with
the
fire
department
that
we
are
not
interfering
in
their
truck
turnaround
and
as
requested
by
City
staff.
We
submitted
a
Geotech
report
confirming
that
the
what
is
being
proposed
in
design
is
appropriate
for
the
bridge,
the
Overlook
and
I
believe
they're,
touching
everything
in
everything
that
we
were
supposed
to
Eric.
Let
me
know
if
I
missed
something.
N
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
Did
you
have
something.
O
These
guys
have
one
thing:
you're
with
the
outfit
yeah
yeah.
My
name
is
a
general
counsel
for
the
applicant.
One
of
the
issues
that
we
raised
earlier
was
that
somebody
somebody
mentioned
that
there
was
you
know,
construction
issues
with
names
of
Aurora
and
as
general
counsel
for
their
company
I
would
be
the
first
one
to
hear
about
any
formal
complaints
about
those
types
of
issues.
I,
don't
know
where
that's
coming
from,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any
and
nothing's
been
filed.
O
A
A
Thanks
for
Coronado,
so
tonight
we
have
potentially
three
things
to
get
into
on
this.
First
is
we
got
an
update
to
eat
this
conversation?
We
should
respond
to
that,
because
I
definitely
attempted
to
respond
support.
We
have
preliminary
approval
resolution,
which.
A
Things
like
ebis,
but
definitely
letting
them
move
forward
with
things
like
Foundation,
and
then
we
do
have
a
recommendation
to
vza
that
we
should
work
out.
What
we
want
to
say
on
this
project
from
my
understanding
is
that
Nikki
has
some
language
from
our
part
three,
that
we
can.
N
A
F
Well,
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
the
Mechanicals
I'm.
Looking
at
this
picture
actually
is
a
great
one.
So
are
you
saying
the
Mechanicals
will
be
mounted
on
the
foundation
wall
that
we're
looking
at
now?
That's
on
the
what
that
would
be
the
west
side
of
the
building.
Is
that
what
you
were
saying?
I
couldn't
quite
understand,
January.
M
Eric
are
you
there
or
you
want
me
to
address
it's
on
this
side?
Lisa.
The
majority
of
them
are
more
like
in
the
back
of
the
property.
M
F
A
All
right,
I
do
want
to
pick
up.
I
think
the
eat
this
conversation.
First,
oh
I,
don't
want
it
to
eat
all
our
time,
but
Elizabeth
could
I.
Could
I
start
with
you
because
I
know
you
have
strong
opinions
on
this.
F
I
do
have
a
strong
opinion
on
that
and
I.
Don't
think
you're
going
to
convince
me
otherwise,
so
I'd
really
like
to
see
a
metal
panel
also
providing
a
solution
there,
so
I
think
there'll
be
a
good
contrast
between
the
masonry
and
the
metal
and
the
color
of
contrast
will
be
sharp
in
that
building.
F
I
think
that
ethos
ages
too
quickly
for
a
building.
That's
going
to
be
housing,
I'm,
okay,
with
if
it's
being
used
on
Commercial
properties
that
are
more
temporary
in
nature
or
have
a
more
scheduled
maintenance,
but
I,
don't
think
he
just
belongs
on
the
housing
projects.
So
I'd
like
to
see
about
him.
D
Mention
yeah
I
agree
with
what
Elizabeth
just
said
from
my
opinion,
it's
an
unknown
to
vote
against
the
project,
but
but
you
pick
metal
panels
and
interesting
idea.
D
And
I
I
think
I
was
swayed
because
of.
K
Would
be
acceptable
but
I'm
100
synthetic
Elizabeth's
point
I.
Think
the
one
issue
I
raised
in
PRC
and
was
you
know
just
some
assurance.
D
A
E
E
That
being
said,
you
know
I
think
the
concessions
that
were
made
with
the
detailing
pulling
it
10
feet
off
the
ground.
So
it's
never
in
ground
contact,
no
penetrations
and
understanding
that
there's
two
inches
of
continuous
insulation.
That's
a
big
selling
point
for
me.
So
I
would
love
to
see
metal
panel
I'd
love
to
see
something,
not
ephus.
If
it
is
ethos,
I
think
I
I
can
support
it.
G
Yeah
I
mean
look
similar
tone.
I
would
love
to
see
metal
panels
right
and
why
I
think
we
could
use
more
white,
more
modern,
something
like
while
Hall
at
Cornell,
but
I
am
swayed
towards
the
ephes
because
of
the
optimized
r
value
right.
If,
if
metal
panels
have
a
subpar
sort
of
insulation
Factor,
as
opposed
to
the
ethos,
I
think
in
this
case,
I
I
would
I
would
lean
more
favorably
with
these
ephes
right
to
be
determined
if
the
newer
version
of
this
product
is
more
resilient
for
our
for.
G
For
our
you
know,
region,
I,
guess
we
will
see
right
and
but
that
those
are
my
thoughts
insulation
over
maybe
routine
maintenance.
But
if
the,
if
the
building
looks
bad
I
think
it'll
affect
you
know,
it's
your
facade
on
leasing
right.
So
it's
to
your
interest
that
you
maintain
it
as
well
exactly.
A
F
A
Any
further
discussion
by
any
member
of
board
or
staff
on
this
or
other
design
issues
before
we
go
into
the
preliminary
approval
resolution,
Lisa.
F
I'm
just
I'm
concerned
about
the
mounting
of
those
Mechanicals
on
that
Western
facade
I
think
it
needs
to
be.
If
that's
the
plan
and
I
understand,
you
can't
do
it
on
the
roof
and
I
mean
they
produce
noise
they're
not
attractive,
that's
a
lovely
rendering
of
that
Assad
and
imagine
those
you
know,
units
I,
just
wonder
if
they
can
be.
If
you
can
re-look
at
that
and
design
it
so
that
it
can
be
screened
or
it
can
be
Consolidated
away
from
the
street
or
something
it
really
changes.
F
The
look
of
that
you
do
have
you
do
have
limitations,
but
I
just
wondered
what
else
can
do?
Roosevelt
yeah
I
think
the
rendering
doesn't
make
clear
how
that's
going
to
look
and
it's
kind
of
like
in
the
end
of
the
building,
with
some
so
it'd
be
nice
to
see
how
that's
mounted
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
F
G
Sorry
I
I
forgot
to
comment
on
that
as
well.
I
mean
I
think
what
is
slightly
concerning
to
me
about
the
heat
pumps
on
the
side
on
the
in
the
parking
lot
side
is
it
does
leave
them
slightly
vulnerable
to
I,
don't
know
somebody
rearing
into
them
and
then
a
whole
wing
of
the
building
being
without
HVAC
for
until
prepares
are
made.
So
is
there
any
kind
of
like
a
fencing,
or
at
least
you
know,
a
hard
fence
just
to
protect
them
from
people
accessing
them
or
the
the
pipes?
G
Being
that
you
know
the
piping
being
sort
of
I
don't
know
manipulated
by
anyone.
G
G
C
L
G
F
That's
a
parking
lot.
It's
a
parking
lot
for
apartment,
complex,
there's,
nothing
nothing's!.
F
A
E
I'll
just
say:
I
think
that's
a
great
spot
for
the
Mechanicals
I
do
think.
Like
everyone
has
said,
we
gotta
I
have
an
updated.
Elevation
is
exactly
where
they
are
because
it's
a
little
conflicting,
but
it
seems
to
be
the
least
visible.
We've
heard
I
mean
I,
know
they're
pretty
quiet,
but
when
you
get
50,
are
they
still
quiet
or
100,
but
but
I?
If
you
can
make
this
work
and
try
to
get
some
screening,
I
support
this
spot
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
great
spot.
It's
like
the
least
impractical.
A
Thank
you
other
questions
and
comments
from
board
or
staff
on
anything
not
related
to
the
preliminary
approval
resolution.
A
A
F
A
F
Yeah,
normally
the
board
does
not
Grand
Final
approval
conditions
upon
the
variance,
and
even
preliminary
is
a
little
unusual,
but
considering
that
they've
been
before
the
board
for
so
long
and
unfortunate,
so
many
things
like
it
that
does
allow
them
to
potentially,
you
know,
do
site
conservances
if
they
choose
to
go
in
that
direction.
While.
F
I
mean
they
would
have
to
come
back
with
a
revised
proposal,
so
it's
yeah
we,
it
would
supersede
here.
Okay,
if
the
foundations
don't
change,
then.
F
And
technically
we
look
at
ordinances
about
the
the
footprint
of
the
building
or
the
major
site
features.
Okay,.
A
I
am
also
a
guest
who
have
preliminary
approval,
and
that
brings
us
to
our
recommendation
to
the
bza
on
the
variants
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Nikki
to
guide
us
through
what
we've
said
already.
That's.
F
Sure,
and
would
it
help
if
I
actually
read
the
summary
from
dza
just
really
quickly?
Yes
about
the
bands,
because
there
are
actually
three,
although
two
deal
with
the
hype,
sure,
okay,
so
I
will
just
read
the
end
of
the
bza
summary
and
if
you
want
more,
please
let
me
know.
F
And
40
feet
do
the
Topography
of
the
site.
The
proposed
building
is
five
stories
in
height
with
the
majority
of
the
lowest
level
located
below
grade
Additionally.
The
building
will
be
49
feet
above
grade
plain
in
a
district
for
a
maximum
of
40
feet
is
permitted,
so
those
are
the
two
through
the
height.
F
F
F
I
F
F
Agrees
with
the
logic
presented
by
the
applicants,
provided
it
as
a
compliance
for
the
requirements
in
the
executed
development
agreement
with
the
city
and
then
for
maximum
building
heightened
stories.
You
said
the
same
thing
same
reasons:
yeah,
it
makes
sense
the
rear
yard.
F
You
said
the
lead
agency
finds
the
variance
is
mitigated
by
the
large
grade
difference
between
this
site
and
a
jointed
property,
so
that
it
minimizes
any
impact
of
the
adjacent
property.
So
that's
where
that
great
difference
is
down
to
the.
C
A
The
only
thing
that
I
might
say
we
can
mention
or
hit
harder
is
the
queen
of
which
seems
huge
I
mean
like
that
is
huge
and
then
the
other
thing
is
the
development
agreement,
because
the
development
agreement
is
going
to
govern
that.
It's
we're
not
negotiating
the
government.
You
know
the
development
agreement
the
city
is,
and
the
City
of
course,
in
theory,
has
the
best
interests
of
the
city
in
mind
when
they're
negotiating
that-
and
you
know,
some
degree
of
deference
seems
appropriate.
A
F
That
being
said,
I
agree
with
all
the
points
and
also
that
the
10
foot
floor
to
floor
height
is
limiting
because
of
the
size
of
structure
and
interstitial
space.
That's
required
between
the
ceiling
and
the
structure,
sure
and
so
I
feel
like
11p
is
not
outside
the
norm.
A
lot
of
buildings.
These
days
have
12
floor
to
floor
ceiling
and
on
some
commercial,
like
lab
spaces,
even
require
13..
So
it's
it's
really:
it's
not
the
ceiling
space
underneath
the
ceiling.
F
It's
it's
the
space
between
the
floor,
and
so
the
structure
requires
some
space
underneath
the
structure
we
need
space
for
duct,
work
and
lights,
and
all
these
things,
and
so
a
tent,
a
10
foot
Florida
floor
is
extremely
limiting
and
I
feel
like
you're,
not
really
going
to
notice
the
height
there
because
of
the
the
change
in
grade
and
the
hill
and
so
I
think,
like
it's
perfectly.
A
Well,
that
sounds
super
relevant
to
me.
I
think
you
know
speaking
to
that.
Maybe
briefly
makes
sense.
F
And
it
is
11
feet,
but
still
you're
saying
that
still
yeah
yeah
right
11
feet
is
not
much
more
than
10
feet
and
so
yeah
for
residential
I.
Think.
That's
really
I,
don't
know
what
the
word
but
I
think
it's.
It's
acceptable.
Yeah.
E
I
think
the
Brownfield
and
the
the
bridge
are
huge,
but
I
think
we
should
also
add
as
a
mitigation,
the
sidewalk
connection.
I,
don't
think
I
heard
you
say
that
one,
but
there
is,
they
are
offering
a
continuous
Lake
Street.
A
On
issues
like
we're
set
back
and
hype,
those
issues
are
almost
really
relevant
to
their
severe
slope
of
because,
like
in
the
case
of
the
rear
yard,
it's
the
slope,
not
the
distance.
That
really
determines
the
separation
right,
so
I
would
say,
hey
that,
and
then
me
I
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
something
we
can
or
should
include,
but
that
site
has
been
struggled
with
for
a
long
time.
This
is
it
I
mean
the
third
project.
That's
coming
for
us.
It's
a
difficult.
D
Site
and
we
finally
have
something
that
looks
viable
and
that's
eluded
Us
in
the
past.
So
again,
I
don't
know
if
history
is
an
allowable
background
information
to
include,
but
you
know
others
have
tried
and
failed
develop
the
site.
A
And
to
achieve
the
overlying
public
benefits
that
we
discussed
so
I
feel,
like
I'm,
hearing
fairly
enthusiastic
support
for
this
variance
for
a
lot
of
reasons
that
we
have
specified
both
an
existing
verbiage
and
in
our
conversations
tonight,
I,
don't
know,
there's
anything
else,
even
maybe
left
to
say
about
it,
although
somebody
had
something
before
certain
building,
but
that
that
to
me
sounds
fairly
comprehensive,
all
right,
I
think
that's
it
for
this
project
tonight,
thank
you
for
the
to
the
applicant
and
then
best
of
luck
at
vza.
Thank
you.
A
R
Should
we
should
have
Steve
Hugo
from
Holt
and
Adam
Fishel
from
Marathon
engineering
and
hopefully
Doug
Namek
as
well?
If
he's
there
from
Ferraro
pile.
F
R
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
will
start
as
mentioned
well:
hi
I'm,
Julia,
Booker
I'm,
with
vision,
development
group
together
with
me,
I
have
Laura,
who
you
all
know.
We
have
Steve
Hugo
with
Holt
and
Adam
Fishel
with
Marathon
own
hi,
Doug
Doug
has
joined
us
Doug
namic
with
Ferrero
piles
I
will
share
my
screen
and
I
will
let
Steve
begin
the
presentation?
S
Thank
you
thanks
thanks
Julia,
and
you
guys
can
hear
me.
Yes,
okay,
okay,
great
so
I
think
we're
gonna
have
a
pretty
quick
presentation
tonight.
Just
to
recap.
Last
month
we
were
hopeful
or
optimistic
that
we
would,
you
would
vote
on
our
secret
determination,
but
I
think
we
you
all
weren't
feeling
feeling
comfortable.
S
So
we
spent
the
last
month
or
so
trying
to
you
know,
prepare
well
for
the
PRC
meeting
and
cover
any
last
minute
requests
in
terms
of
information
that
you
might
need
for
the
Seeker
determination
and
there
I
think
there
were
some
questions.
S
Doug
came
to
the
PRC
meeting
and
spoke
a
little
bit
about
the
pile
driving
techniques
which
I
think
he's
going
to
talk
about
a
little
today,
Adam
will
be
giving
us
a
small
update
on
those
site
plan
elements
that
are
relevant
to
the
Seeker
determination
and
with
that
introduction,
I
just
added
this
is
the
one
rendering
that
had
been
updated,
that
we
should
shared
at
PRC
I,
believe
the
fencing
in
the
North
End
of
the
property
in
that
initial,
rendering
weren't
showed
properly
so
we've
updated
that
rendering,
for
those
who
I
think
everyone's
probably
is
understands
the
the
space
space
implications
of
the
building
but
you're.
S
Basically
seeing
you
know
to
the
far
left.
You
can
see
the
gray
portion
of
the
building
that
we
previously
looked
at
it's
on
the
corner
of
Buffalo
and
Meadow.
The
sort
of
sun
shading
devices
that
are
being
that
are
being
used,
the
vertical
fins
and
you're.
S
Seeing
the
the
beige
part
of
the
building,
there's
sort
of
two
steps
in
the
building
that
step
as
the
building
extends
north
and
you
can
see
the
driveway
that
would
be
the
access
to
the
fire
lane
and
with
that
I'm
gonna
I
think
pass
it
back
over
to
Adam
Julia.
Is
that
right
or
Doug?
No.
R
You
can
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
foundation
proposed
Foundation
method.
This
will
be
the
same
presentation
we
did
at
PRC
meeting
and
hopefully
it
will
be
a
good
presentation
for
all
so
Doug,
please
and
feel
free
to
start.
Q
All
right,
thanks
to
everybody
for
joining
us
today,
the
proposed
Foundation
system,
we're
talking
about
here-
is
a
driven
pile
and.
I
Q
Have
experience
in
this
area
of
driving
piles,
the
proposed
is
using
a
hydraulic
impact,
hammer
which
we
are
able
to
control
the
stroke
and
energy
that's
being
imparted
to
the
pile
to
get
just
the
right
amount
of
energy
to
the
pile
to
improve
capacity
and
no
more.
Q
We
expect
that
for
this
project
with
overgrewing
the
foundation
system
that
we
have
about
three
weeks
worth
of
work
on
the
project,
there
should
be
very
little
transfer
of
energy
from
to
vibration
in
this
soil
condition,
because
it's
a
p,
very
loose
weight
of
hammer
type
of
material
which,
in
its
own
Nature,
has
less
vibration.
Transmission
I,
mean
typically
would
on
a
standard
project,
have
a
peak
particle
velocity,
which
is
the
measurement
of
vibration,
limited
to
one
inch
per
second.
Q
If
we
were
working
in
an
area
that
was
next
to
a
Historic,
Landmark
building,
I.E
a
cathedral
or
something
like
that,
we
would
reduce
that
to
a
half
an
inch
per
second
generally
in
this
area.
Because
of
our
experience
in
this
area,
we
would
expect
that
our
Peak
particle
velocity
driving
piles
would
be
less
than
a
quart
0.25
inches
per
second.
Q
Q
We
have
a
a
detailed
location
of
the
existing
buildings
that
surround
this
area,
and
we
would
suggest
that
a
pre-construction
survey
would
be
done
on
the
buildings
that
are
annotated
with
the
red
coloring.
That
would
allow
us
to
verify
the
existing
conditions
of
those
buildings
and
that
we
are
not
producing
any
vibration,
concerns
to
those
buildings
and
be
able
to
do
a
post-construction
of
those
same
buildings
after
the
construction
of
this
building.
Q
The
peak
particle
velocity
monitoring
is
much
like
a
seismograph
that
that
picks
up
the
vibration
from
a
earthquake,
and
we
would
suggest
that
two
of
these
be
set
up
around
the
site
closest
to
the
pile
driving
operations
that
are
on
the
site,
as
we
were
progressing
through
the
site
on
this
drawing.
We
would
typically
work
this
site
from
north
to
south
on
this,
drawing
just
because
of
the
access
to
the
site.
So
we
would
set
up
the
vibration
monitoring
units
to
the
buildings
that
are
closest
to
our
activity.
Q
To
verify
that
we're
well
well
below
that
vibration
limit
when
we
we
have
done
work
in
this
area
in
the
building
to
the
north
of
this
marked
in
Orange
on
this
slide
was
a
project
that
we
did
in
2020.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
directly
adjacent
to
this
site
and
we
had
no
concerns
or
complaints
that
we
are
aware
of
at
the
time
of
that
construction,
which
again
was
two
years
ago,
the
we
expect
that
the
the
noise
would
be
significantly
below
a
diesel
impact
hammer.
Q
R
Yeah
and
just
to
add
to
what
Doug
just
said,
just
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
understanding
that,
when
Doug
mentioned,
that
they
drip
they've
driven
piles
using
the
on
this
building
to
the
north
of
the
property,
they
use
the
exact
same
method.
The
hydraulic
impact
hammer
just
to
make
sure
that
this
is
and.
R
We
were
requested
on
the
previous
meeting
to
make
a
point
on
the
controlled
modulus
columns.
So
if
Doug
doesn't
mind
just
speaking
a
little
bit
about
these
as
well
and
how
these
are
and
can
considering
the
site
conditions
that
these
would
be
that
the
hydraulic
impact
hammer
would
be
a
better
fit
for
the
project.
That
would
be
great
so.
Q
The
controlled
modulus
columns
are
basically
a
column,
that's
drilled
into
place,
displacing
the
soil,
densifying
the
soil,
and
it's
pumping
a
significant
amount
of
concrete
below
grade.
When
you
do
that,
you
have
all
the
concrete
trucks,
the
concrete
pump,
the
compressors
and
the
drill
rig
running
at
significantly
the
same
same
and
or
greater
noise
conditions,
but
on
a
continuous
basis.
The
process
of
that
also
develops
a
significant
amount
of
spoils
that
have
to
be
hauled
off
a
site
which
would
then
increase
the
number
of
trucks
and
traffic
coming
in
up.
Q
Then
you
have
the
spoil
trucks
going
in
and
out
on
an
hourly
basis,
the
it's
important
that
those
run
continuously
so
that
when
you're
doing
them
that
you're
not
having
concrete
set
up
in
the
in
the
pumping
lines,
the
amount
of
work
that
that
would
require
would
probably
be
two
to
three
times
as
long
and
the
process
of
that
requires
an
over
excavation
of
the
site
so
that
you
can
build
a
reinforced
compacted
pad
above
the
cmcs
that
procedure
of
doing
that.
Over
excavation.
Q
R
Thank
you
Doug,
so,
in
short,
we
would
just
as
a
conclusion
like
to
point
out
that
we
would
the
hydraulic
impact.
Hammer
would
be
the
preferred
method
for
this
particular
site
for
the
shorter
duration
for
the
process
have
been
successfully
used
in
a
recently
in
a
nearby
property
and
considering
that
the
soil
conditions
are
as
are
as
they
are,
it
would
help
us
reduce
the
amount
of
generated
noise
and
vibration.
R
P
P
It's
going
to
be
you
know
a
full
access
and
left
turn
and
right
turn
in,
but
only
a
write-out
tourney
movement
through
some
coordination
back
and
forth,
with
Tim
log
at
the
city,
engineering
office
and
Rick
Stevens
at
D.O.T,
we've
made
some
minor
geometry
and
curbing
changes
to
this
access
drive
on
Buffalo
Street
and
as
of
last
week,
we
have
both
City
engineering
and
Dot's
acknowledgment
that
this
this
driveway
configuration
will
work.
P
So
we're
progressing
this
the
design
phase
into
the
next
phase
of
design
review
with
DOT,
but
as
of
right
now,
they
you
know
D.O.T
and
the
city
have
have
given
their
blessing
on
this
driving
configuration.
P
We
also
submitted
the
basic
Swip
to
City
engineering
for
review,
and
we
have
received
City
engineering
sign
off
on
that
Swip
as
well,
so
that
it's
also
been
provided
to
the
city
for
for
documentation.
C
R
So
I
think
this
concludes
our
presentation
for
today.
Unless
you
have
any
questions.
A
I'm
sure
there
will
be
questions,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
Interestingly,
thank
you
for
that
monitoring
map.
That
would
really
helpful
for
me
to
understand.
You
know
what
the
plan
was
there.
A
Let's
go
around
the
room
and
get
questions
and
comments
from
board
and
staff.
Elizabeth
can
I
start
with
you.
F
Yeah,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
think
that
was
pretty
a
conclusive
and
it
makes
sense
to
use
the
hydraulic
camera.
I
know
that
construction
noise
is
always
an
issue
with
people
around,
but
it
seems
like
you,
have
a
good
plan
in
place
and
I.
Don't
have
any
further
comments
mentioned.
F
Yeah
I'm,
also
comfortable
with
the
the
pile.
A
D
Escape
along
Meadow
and
buffalo
should
be
very
quick,
see.
A
If
you
show
that
rendering
yeah
go
back
to
that,
rendering
I
don't
think
it's
right,
there's
on
street
parking
next
to
the
sidewalk
and
the
sidewalk
doesn't
meet
the
curb
like
that.
There's
a
brick
paver
area
between
people
and
the
current.
It's
really
important
to
get
this
right
because
Middle.
A
D
A
D
A
D
A
Other
question
I
want
to
ask:
is
on
Buffalo.
Can
you
go
to
one
of
the
plans?
You
know
the
structural
plans
that
you
have
there's
a
I've,
never
noticed
this,
but
there's
a
kind
of
a
Canton
sidewalk
situation.
There
yeah
go
to
the
bottom
there
and
I'm
not
really
sure
why
it's
there
I
can't
because
cars
are
not
turning
right
onto
you,
know:
nerve,
Metals,
one
way
going
north,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
could
be
actually
made
whole
again
and
that
curve
just
be
brought
straight
across
to
make
the
sidewalk
bigger,
because
the.
D
D
Somebody
will
get
inside,
maybe
you
have
already,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
you-
can
give
her
fire
access
and
I
think
it
could
be
more
public
space
added
to
the
project.
P
Yeah
thanks,
if,
if
I
could
Mitch
that
that
question's
come
up
a
couple
different
times
and
it's
primarily
for
large
truck
turning
movements,
as
they
are
heading
Northbound,
on
Meadow,
turning
left
or
westbound
onto
Buffalo
Street,
that
curbing
has
been
pulled
back
and
that's.
Why
there's
also
those
bollards
there
at
that
corner
too
so
I.
You
know:
I
suspect
that
that's
why
that
curbing
has
been
pulled
back
over
the
years
and
where
it
is
now
to
accommodate
those
bigger
trucks.
Turning
yes,
I.
B
A
It
admit
your
your
comment
about
the
streetscape,
which
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with,
did
just
remind
me
that
I
think
starting
two
blocks
over
at
Purity
is
the
area
where
this
the
congressman
award
to
Bergman
before
the
revitalization.
A
D
A
Information
and
just
make
sure
that
whatever
is
done
there
on
that
sidewalk
is,
is
consistent
and
that
that
information
is
communicated
because
I
think
we're
going
to
be
planning
on
on
current
conditions
rather
than
ignition
is
what
will
be
coming.
That's
a
good
point.
Yeah.
Thank
you
for
that
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
to
stop
sharing
the
screen.
Just
so
I
can
see
my
my
two
remote
board
members
Emily.
E
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah
I
feel
comfortable
with
it.
Thank
you
for
the
thorough
explanation
and
and
location
map.
E
It
goes
a
long
way
for
me
to
hear
that
the
construction
called
701
Court
was
done
in
the
same
manner
and
there
were
no
problems
and
no
complaints
so
and
anything
to
have
a
shorter
duration
of
pile
driving,
I
think
is
good
man.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah,
second,
all
the
points,
so
clearly
you
guys
have
done
your
homework,
but
I
think
I
also
want
to
call
out
you
do
a
very
good
job
at
explaining
sort
of
the.
Why
and
even
when,
it's
not
clear
the
first
time
around
you
you've
come
back
with
an
even
better
explanation.
G
Also,
second
Mitch's
points
about
pedestrianizing.
This
entire
sort
of
stretch
of
the
city
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
great
people
that
wish
to
see
this
be
sort
of
an
urban
Boulevard
and
that'll
be
to
your
benefit
right.
So
to
the
extent
that
that
can
be
kept
in
mind
as
I
think
it
mostly
has
been
awesome.
A
Thank
you,
Daniel
anything
from
staff
where
I've
started
in
part.
Three,
all
right,
so
I'll
throw
everyone's
attention.
Part
three,
which
has
been
revised.
It
looks
like
multiple
times
until
after
we
find
we've,
seen
it
and
seemed
when
I
read
it
pretty
well
baked
and
done
I.
B
A
It
might
be
worth
double
checking
to
see
if
we
want
to
incorporate
references
to
things
like
that
monitoring
map
we
just
saw
which
I
didn't
see
a
reference
to
when
I
went
through
it
or
anything
else.
That
seems.
F
Relevant
to
this,
oh
Emily,
sorry
I'm,
sorry
I
was
just
going
to
say
on
page
when
it
does,
but
maybe
we
need
it
somewhere
else
too,
if
you,
if
you
think
so,
I
can
put
it
in
there.
E
A
Also,
a
yes,
you
have
your
neck
deck
I
believe
that
is
it
for
this
project
tonight.
A
B
U
Okay,
Jason
Demarest
architect,
Chris
petrillos,
is
here
the
developer.
U
This
is
the
William
108
110
College
you've
seen
it
before,
although
it's
a
little
different
this
time
we
went
to
bza
this
month
and
we
were
denied
on
the
rear
yard
setback
variants
and
the
lock
coverage
variants.
So
we
scrambled
to
squeeze
the
building
down.
So
the
building
footprint
is
now
right
at
the
maximum
allowed.
U
That
includes
the
balcony
areas
and
then,
in
order
to
do
that,
the
the
north-south
dimension
was
pretty
well
developed
with
the
apartments
on
the
East
half,
and
so
we
redesigned
the
West
half
and
so
that
that
Dimension
didn't
change,
but
the
East-West
Dimension
is
a
little
less
than
the
distance
from
the
rear
yard
setback
to
the
front
yard
setback.
So
we
we
shifted
the
building
to
be
on
the
the
rear
yard
setback
in
the
CR
zones.
U
The
balconies
do
not
count
for
setback
so
that
that
has
been
resolved
and
the
net
effect
of
what
happened
was
we.
We
opened
up
the
space
for
the
patios
a
little
bit.
You
know
it
was
about
18
inches
a
couple
other
minor
adjustments.
U
We
opened
up
the
north
side
a
little
bit
with
a
minor
shift
of
about
a
foot
and
a
half
just
a
create
a
little
bit
more
space
there
and
then
at
the
South
half
here
we
did
shift
the
trash
Recycling
and
bike
storage
West
just
a
little
bit
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
more
room
in
this
loading
zone.
U
Sort
of
a
you
know,
the
the
concrete
to
paver
is
sort
of
at
a
wheel,
stop
location,
but
that
that
creates
a
little
bit
more
room
for
larger,
like
a
moving
van
for
in
the
loading
zone.
So
it
doesn't
block
the
sidewalk,
so
the
net
effect
we
we
did
lose
10
bedrooms
on
the
back
here
we've
we
had
three
patios,
but
the
way
it
works.
There's
just
two
apartments
per
floor.
There,
okay
I'd
say
that's
it.
On
the
site
plan
I'm,
going
to
jump
right
to
the
landscape
plan.
U
So
the
rear
yard
got
larger
and
that
allowed
us
to
adjust
the
grade
a
little
bit
so
there's
no
longer
retaining
wall
on
the
back
side
of
the
property
it
just
slopes
off
and
rejoins
the
natural
grade.
There
we've
added
some
more
boxwoods
in
the
center
area.
These
are
the
raised
lawn
areas.
That's
offer
the
grade
plane.
Calculation
guard
rails
were
added
up
here
on
the
North
side,
where
the
the
drop-off
is
greater
than
than
30
inches
and
I.
U
Think
that's
really
it
on
landscape
jumping
over
to
Lynch
and
I
actually
just
want
to
zoom
in
on
the
patigos.
U
So
this
sort
of
a
hybrid
drawing
here
you're,
seeing
the
the
north
design
detailed,
the
pink
line,
is
basically
the
North
and
then
what
happens
at
the
South.
So
there's
barely
a
retaining
wall
at
the
sidewalk
grid
on
the
south
patio
and
then
the
purple
line
is
the
center
patio,
which
is
a
double
patio,
the
building's
inset
three
feet
and
it
has
a
shorter
wall
and
then
and
then
a
bigger
jump
up
to
meet
the
sidewalk
grade.
So
that's
what
that's
looking
like
I
just
want
to
show
you
where
it
was
before.
U
Give
that
a
second
to
come
up,
so
you
can
see
how
tight
that
is
where
we
were
before
so
by
Shifting.
The
building
to
that
rear
setback
line
really
really
open
that
up.
So
we
thought
that
was
a
nice
change
and
then
just
to
give
you
a
look,
here's
the
added
guard
rails
from
the
north
side.
U
Here's
just
a
closer
up
view
from
the
front,
so
that's
where
they
they
fall
with
that
mesh,
mesh,
guardrail
design
and
then
the
rear
of
the
building.
You
can
see
here
just
slope,
lawn
area
level
spot
and
then
slopes
off
again
to
the
property
line
property
lines.
You
know
sort
of
at
the
toe
of
that
that
slope
there
and
then
the
raised
patio
areas
with
the
boxwoods
in
front
I.
Think
that's
really
it
let
me
hold
on.
Let
me
go
back.
U
You
know
in
the
pack,
at
the
revised
submission
you've
got
the
the
floor
plan
update.
You
know
kind
of
long
slender
Apartments
a
little
little
cramped,
but
it
is
what
it
is:
it's
zoning
compliant
now
we
did
drop
to
29
apartments
and
it's
now
44
beds
down
from
54.
U
and
and
I've
been
showing
renderings
all
along,
but
in
the
packet
here
I
got
back
to
the
more
traditional
elevation
shots.
So
yeah
I
think
that's
that's
really
it
for
the
presentation.
I,
don't
know,
Chris
did
I
miss
anything.
You
got
anything
to
add
I.
Think
that's
pretty
much.
Q
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
so
we
do
have
on
our
action
for
this
project
tonight.
Potential
implementary
and
final
three
reports
of
the
project
is,
you
know
different
than
the
last
time
we
saw
it.
So
you
know
we
have
options
when
we're
decided
we're
comfortable
doing,
but
my
understanding
is
that
our
Seeker
still
governs
secret.
Determination
is
fine
when
someone
wants
to
reopen
it
because
they
see
something
in
these
changes
worth
reopening
and
yeah.
With
that,
we'll
go
around
the
room.
G
No
major
comments,
good
work
around
to
the
circumstances.
I
think
the
project
looks
good
Emily.
E
Well,
I'm,
sorry,
you
didn't
catch
your
variances,
but
I
think
it
makes
the
project
better.
It
seems
like
with,
without
that
retaining
wall
in
the
back
and
giving
more
space
to
the
the
sunken
Courtyards
up
front.
Yeah,
no
other
comments.
I
still
think
it's
a
great
building,
a
good
addition
to
college
town,
I
will
say:
I've
taken
to
Heart
Rob's
comment
from
last
time
about
how
a
college
student
would
want
a
sunken
Courtyard.
E
So
I'm
gonna
stop
complaining
about
it
and
try
to
put
myself
in
the
mindset
of
a
college
student,
so
yeah
ready
to
move
forward.
A
No
I'm
good
for
this
building
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
good
job.
You
always
put
yourself
through
a
lot
of
work.
You
guys-
and
you
know,
maybe
there's
a
lesson
here-
that
working
within
the
zoning
is,
you
know,
sometimes
can
work
and
be
a
good
building
and
I.
Think
you've
arrived
that
yourself,
I.
F
Quite
much
I
have
no
further
comments.
All.
A
Right
is
there
any
questions
or
comments
for
Scott
anyone
not
comfortable
with
moving
forward
with
the
resolution
before
us?
It
is
very
emotional.
Preliminary
and
final
approval
on
this
project.
I
see
Elizabeth
move
I,
see
Emily.
Second,
any
discussion
saying
now
moving
to
a
roll
call
vote
for
Gary.
A
B
G
F
B
V
Hi,
this
is
George
Claremont,
with
aapmi
I'm,
with
Tony
Ewing,
representing
the
ownership
group
at
105,
Westbourne
Lane.
V
And
I
am
expecting
Frank
Santelli.
B
B
W
W
V
Can
everyone
see
this
screen.
B
G
V
When
we
last
met
on
the
13th
for
the
with
the
Review
Committee,
there
was
a
question
about
engineering's
request
for
a
sidewalks
on
along
Wyckoff
and
Westbourne
Lane
and
Frank,
and
his
team
has
prepared
a
circulation
path
and
and
Frank
if
you're,
okay,
with
this
I,
could
hand
the
ball
off
to
you
to
discuss
the
circulation
regarding
the
sidewalks,
Nikki
I
did
read
engineering's
response
and
it
would
still
like
a
sidewalk
along
Wyckoff
and
we'd
like
to
just
discuss
that
briefly.
F
Just
decided
we
did
receive
an
email,
though
from
the
village
of
Vega
Heights,
which
does
not
want
anything
to
be
planted
or
built
in
their
drainage
in
the
right-of-way,
so
that
might
affect
without
having
signed
up
too
sorry
to
interrupt
just
throwing
that
in.
V
There
thank
you,
okay,
we're
going
to
look
at
that
as
positive
news.
W
I
figured
as
much
I
hadn't
talked
to
Brent
Cross
at
this
at
the
Village.
As
of
yet
but
I
I've
yeah
there's
a
drainage
way
through
there
and
that
would
all
have
to
be
culvertised
in
storm,
sewer
and
yeah.
It
would
be
it
would
be
a
a
Major
Impact,
along
that
edge
of
the
property
for
sure.
V
Okay,
so
we
we
do
plan
on
on
making
this
new
ramp
and
curb
Ada
accessible,
and
this
is
our
sort
of
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
compromise
because,
as
as
we
walk
along
Westborn
Lane
off
of
Highland,
we
we
have
Incorporated
a
a
walk,
just
be
behind
just
north
of
the
stone
wall
that
exists.
V
The
idea
is
not
to
disturb
it
at
all,
because
it's
part
of
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood
and
Traverse
our
new
asphalt
drive
lane
and
kick
over
to
the
to
the
West
in
order
to
cross
Westborn
to
get
to
120,
126,
Westborn,
Lane
and
the
reason
being
is:
there's
a
60
inch
diameter
existing
mature
tree
here
and
there's
other
trees
along
this
path,
with
nothing
else
going
on.
So
we
thought
okay.
V
V
And
Frank
did
not,
you
know,
Frank
was
resistant.
He
didn't
want
to
show
this
sidewalk,
so
we
have
not
Incorporated
in
the
plan
all
right,
but
we
we
feel
that
this
is
this.
Could
work
and
I
mean
this
path?
Is,
for
those
of
you
know,
people
that
are
visiting
105,
Westborn
and
then
okay,
if
you
happen
to
be
coming
across
here,
you
might
want
to
continue,
but
we're
accommodating
the
pedestrians
that
are
walking
along
Westborn
to
have
safe
access
and
and
get
over
to
that
complex.
V
We
did
submit
a
a
site,
rendering.
V
And
we
did
not
include
pending
the
the
decision
tonight.
We
did
not
include
and
coordinate
with
Frank's
circulation,
but
we
will
do
that
if
that's
okay
with
everybody,
we
I
do
think
that
we
might
have
to
get
a
little
bit
creative
to
avoid
these
trees.
V
And
just
to
clarify
that
this
is
not
pavers.
This
is
really
you
know.
Grass
pavers,
so
the
intent
is
to
you
know,
have
events
and
possibly
post
offense
and
maybe
have
this
grasp
be
able
to
support
some
kind
of
vehicular
parking.
But
that's
that's
not
really
the
inset,
but
the
idea
is,
you
know
not
to
wreck
This
Grass
whenever
we
do
have
our
annual
or
semi-annual
events.
A
Is
there
anything
else
you
are
looking
to
present
before
we
dive
into
questions
and
Comics.
V
Oh,
no,
that
that
was
it
great.
A
V
I'm
sorry
I
did
have
one
more
thing
to
say
sure:
go
ahead.
We
have
calculated
that
our
site
disturbance
is
0.9
of
an
acre
and
somehow
I
mean
the
the
property
is
1.08
Acres.
V
So
we
don't
see
how
the
math
works
out
where
we're
over
an
acre
of
disturbance,
and
we
just
like
a
way
to
correct
that,
whether
it's
addressing
it
on
the
application
we
just
wanted
to
to
make
that
clear.
A
That
sounds
to
me
like
something
to
work
out
with
staff,
maybe
between
the
meetings
I'm
sure
they
can
help
you
with
that
great.
A
So
I
have
a
little
promotion.
The
queer
lead
agent
I
saw
Elizabeth
Moon.
She
moved
again
for
a
second,
oh
and
I
I.
Need
you
to
stop
sharing
your
screen
because
I
can
see
my
remote
board
members
I
see
Emily.
Second,
we'll
do
a
quick
roll
call
vote
on.
A
And
I'm
also
a
yes,
you
have
a
lead
agent
before
we
do
the
public
hearing.
Let's
get
a
reaction
to
what
we've
seen
tonight.
Gary
can
I
start
with
you
all.
G
Major
comments,
I
appreciate
the
consideration
for
the
trees
and
I
think
the
grass
pavers
are
a
smart
idea
for
occasional
high
density
events.
E
Emily
I
agree
I
like
that
switch
to
the
grass
pavers
instead
and
thanks
for
your
work
on
trying
to
make
the
the
Westborn
Lane
more
pedestrian
friendly.
A
W
I
believe
these
would
be
the
high
density
polyethylene
they're,
like
a
honeycomb,
so
they're
not
concrete,
so
the
the
void
space
within
the
blocks
they
come
in,
I'm,
not
sure
what
dimension
the
the
individual
blocks
come,
but
it's
probably
like
a
foot
by
a
foot
or
two
by
two
I
forget,
but
the
the
void
space
is
very
high.
It's
like
probably
90
percent.
It's
a
honeycomb
shape,
so
most
of
what
you
most
of
the
material
would
be
topsoil.
We
would
use
a
Sandy.
W
We
would
use
a
sandy
loam
material
to
fill
in
the
Honeycombs
and
get
get
grass
to
grow
in
the
within
the
within
the
pavers.
A
B
A
Think
one
thing
I
think
I
heard
George
say
was
that
you
know
could
potentially
be
used
for
parking
and
I.
Think
that
is
not
a
good
idea
and
I
I'm
concerned
that
people
might
come
to
see
that
space
as
additional
parking
and
closer
to
the
front
door
on
an
ongoing
basis.
You
know
I,
don't
have
any
special
events
they're
going
to
be
there
I.
Imagine
maybe.
D
F
If
you're
going
in
that
direction,
yeah,
but
just
sorry
just
make
a
comment
by
zoning-
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
a
parking
in
front
yard
anyway,.
A
A
F
Was
welcome
thanks
for
your
presentation
and
I
appreciate,
also
all
the
new
things
you're
doing
on
the
sidewalk
and
your
attention
to
the
pavers
and
trees
and
yeah
I
think
this
is
really
nice.
I,
don't
see
an
issue
with
it.
A
Thank
you.
The
only
thing
I'll
add
is
when
we
get
to
you
know
materiality
more
broadly.
I
definitely
want
to
see
a
detail,
and
it
goes
to
as
well
on
those
papers
and
the
points
about
parking
and
communicating
that
to
tenants.
I
think
our
work
are
well
said
and
then
I
appreciate
the
outlining
of
the
sidewalk
improvements
on
I'm
Andrew
didn't
have
those
developed
as
they
interface
with
the
Landscaping.
So
all
that
seems
positive
and,
like
things
are
moving
forward
in
a
reasonable
way.
We
do
have
another
action
on
this
tonight.
A
A
F
F
I
would
suggest
for
the
applicants
to
please
look
over
the
draft
pick.
There's
there
are
a
few
yellow
highlights
of
some
information
that
we
need
and
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
that
offline
as
well.
So
yes,.
A
So
we
do
have
the
people
for
us
and
if
there
is
any
questions
or
comments
from
Board
of
staff
on
the
subject
of
the
thief,
I
think
it's
worth
getting
into
that.
But
I
will
say
there
are
a
bunch
of
yellow
highlights
on
here
and
that
just
Flags
stuff
that
we'll
need
to
see
information
on
before
we
move
towards
the
next
day
or
any
environmental
determination,
and
the
outlet
should
have
that.
F
And
then
the
only
other
thing
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
board
members
want
to
see
those
progressivators
there's
a
good
example
in
front
of
the
Navajo
Welcome
Center
at
the
botanic
gardens
yeah.
C
B
T
T
Very
good,
thank
you
thanks
for
having
me
again
tonight
again,
my
name
is
Arnold
Larson
I'm
with
DDS
companies.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
T
One
to
return
back
to
the
planning
board
this
evening
talk
about
the
the
Hudson
Street
regulator.
Station
building
project
for
on
behalf
of
NYSEG
back
in
December,
met
with
the
planning
board
and
had
a
good
meeting
with
PRC
earlier
this
month,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we've
had
a
chance
to
work
through
the
design.
In
case
there
is
public
attending
I
can
go
back
over
the
need
and
then
The
Narrative
of
the
project
and
be
like
for
me
to
go
through
that
again.
T
T
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you.
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
last
was
Building
colors
and
building
materials
and
on
the
building
colors.
We
did
talk
to
NYSEG
about
some
of
the
concerns
of
that
you
had
about
what
you
wanted
this
this
facade
to
look
like
and
on
our
building
material
color
sheet.
They
still
would
like
to
stick
with
the
the
kind
of
the
Earth
Tone
green,
stamped,
concrete,
texturized
walls,
and
we
did
look
into
some
of
the
the
Brick
concerns.
T
A
real
brick
desires
that
the
city
has
brick
with
slate
roofs,
and
when
we
had
some
discussion
they
said
you
know,
one
of
the
concerns
was
really
schedule
and
some
of
the
trades
they
typically
work
with
for
these
types
of
structures
and
in
the
past,
what
they
were
really
trying
to
focus
on
was
element
of
speed.
T
When
you
put
the
buildings
in
to
have
the
least
amount
of
disruption
into
the
neighborhood
and
what
they
used
to
do
was
a
pre-engineered
metal
building,
which
was
actually
an
insulated
metal
building
to
help
a
little
bit
with
the
sound.
But
by
going
to
the
lakeland's
precast
concrete
structure,
it
further
enhances
the
sound
it
further
enhances
the
security.
It
further
reduces
the
maintenance
on
the
building,
because
it's
stained
concrete
as
opposed
to
painted
metal,
and
they
really
felt
like
that's
still
a
superior
option
for
what
they
typically
would
install
within
the
city.
T
So
they
still
would
like
to
stick
with
the
Earth
Tone
green
to
blend
into
the
into
the
surroundings.
Another
thing
that
we
talked
about
was
that
came
up
with
staff.
Actually
recently
was
the
rear
yard
setback,
and
that's
one
of
the
main
changes
that
you'll
see
here
in
the
site
plan
is
the
building
has
has
been
rotated,
90
degrees.
We
were
encroaching
upon
the
rear
yard
setback
to
20
foot,
rear
yard
setback.
T
Initially,
I
was
thinking.
This
is
more
of
an
accessory
structure
due
to
its
size
being
a
10
by
16,
but
the
interior
floor.
Space
is
only
128
square
feet.
That
staff
is
saying
we
still
want
to
try
and
respect
the
20-foot
yard
setback.
So
by
rotating
the
building
we
were
able
to
achieve
that,
and-
and
actually
it
worked
out
that
we
had
got
less
impact
to
the
vegetation
in
the
area
as
well.
T
So
some
of
the
there
was
one
tree
that
we
were
proposing
to
remove
and
we
no
longer
need
to
remove
that
tree.
So
the
there's
no
longer
a
tree
impact
and
this
green
in
color
building
would
have
more
of
a
backdrop
to
blend
into
now
as
well.
So
the
entry
is
still
off
of
the
gravel
parking
lot
that
is
out
here
along
the
street,
but
instead
of
coming
along
the
front
of
the
building
the
south
side
of
the
building,
we're
showing
it
on
the
West
Side
building
there.
T
As
such,
we
also
discussed
the
to
the
north.
These
coniferous
trees
on
North
side
and
we've
settled
in
on
the
Norway,
spruce
it's
something
to
be
a
little
bit
more
deer
resistant,
deer,
tolerant
such
that.
The
last
time
we
were
talking
about
was
maybe
an
arborvitae
and
there
are
some
concerns
about
that
species.
T
So
we've
got
that
reduced
to
three
Norway
spruces
on
the
north
side
of
the
site
as
well
emissions
and
order
we
touched
on
that
last
time
is
and
that
the
it's
all
welded
steel,
pipe,
there's
no
vents
within
the
building
of
gas
lines
or
or
equipment
that
would
potentially
emit
odors,
and
so
that
is
a
fully
contained
system
and
also
with
gas
systems.
Sometimes
they
do
inject
an
odorant
to
make
it
deductible
at
this
facility
being
a
district
regulator
station.
That
is
not
the
case.
T
T
The
gas
is
contained
and
within
a
sealed,
well
the
steel
pipe
system,
and
then,
if
there
was
the
potential
for
an
explosion,
really
just
be
from
over
pressurization,
and
we
will
have
a
a
pressure
relief
valve
system
within
spec
to
what
the
New
York
State
Public
Service
Commission,
requires
by
its
regulations,
so
that
will
have
that
protection
level.
Protection
in
the
vicinity
as
well
one
other
item
that
came
up
last.
What
time
was
the
the
bus
stop?
T
There
is
a
bus
that
stops
at
that
location.
Talking
to
NYSEG,
we
discussed
the
idea
of
you
know
if
the
city
has
the
desire
to
incorporate,
maybe
a
concrete
pad
or
signage
whatever
it
might
be,
to
make
that
a
little
bit
more
of
a
a
reasonable
space
for
people
to
to
Stage
for
the
bus,
there's
not
crosswalks
or
or
ADA
Compliant
sidewalks
in
this
area.
T
So
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
lot
in
a
way
of
sidewalk
enhancements,
but
we
did,
you
know,
discuss
the
idea
of
what
type
of
stops
could
be
added
to
this
corner,
so
that
was
something
that
was
further
discussed
but
with
NYSEG
the
noise
levels.
We
touched
on
that
last
time
as
well
from
our
studies,
and
we
did
provide
some
information
on
the
noise
analysis
and
basically
under
normal
operating
systems.
It's
at
65.7
dbas.
That's
actually
it
one
meter
away
from
the
operating
regulator
within
the
regulator
station
at
maximum
flow.
T
It
it
approaches
almost
70
DBA
and
really
that
is
getting
just
approaching
what
would
be
a
typical
City
street.
So
we
felt
that
the
noise
levels
within
the
building
are
reasonable.
The
concrete
structure
will
also
further
dampen
that
noise
and
make
it
less
of
a
a
an
issue
for
the
for
the
neighboring
community.
T
So
that's
some
of
the
I
guess
the
alterations
that
we've
had
since
we've
last
met
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
address
any
comments.
You
may
have.
A
Great
we'll
go
around
the
room
with
the
questions
and
comments.
I'll
ask
you
to
stop
sharing
your
screen.
If
I
can
see
all
the
board
members
and
before
I
go
around
the
room,
one
of
the
things
we
mentioned
last
time
was
communication
to
the
neighbors
around
things
like
explosion
risk,
because
when
you
explain
to
that
in
the
room
on
our
last
meeting
and
then
the
war
memories
of
the
whole
felt,
you
know
quite
reassured
by
you
know
your
perspective
on
that.
Has
any
of
that
neighbor
Outreach
happen.
A
I
I,
would
you
know
and
I
think
other
board
members
like
this
I
would
strongly
encourage.
You
know
you
and
your
team
to
make
that
happen.
Yeah
Let's
go
around
the
room
for
questions
and
comments
on
what
we've
seen
Elizabeth.
F
I,
don't
think
I
have
any
comments.
Is
there
a
reason
why
you
can't
match
the
color
of
the
church?
Why
is
it
that
you
want
to
stick
with
the
green.
T
Initially,
we
were
going
to
be
I'm.
Sorry
can
I
address
that,
please,
okay,
yeah!
Initially
we
were
going
to
be
the
red
tone,
more
of
a
natural
tone
to
be
that
of
the
church
and
in
order
to
blend
in
a
little
bit
more.
T
There
was
a
some
comments
from
the
public
that
came
in
during
the
December
meeting
and
it
was
about
the
Aesthetics
and
in
our
last
discussion
with
the
city
there
was,
it
might
blend
in
a
little
bit
more
nicely
with
the
corner
being
that
it's
not
right
next
to
the
church
to
do
more
of
an
Earth
Tone
and
have
it
blend
into
the
vegetation
at
the
backdrop
to
the
north.
So
we
made
that
change
to
go
from.
T
We
considered
like
a
desert
tan
or
a
deeper
tan
or
Earth
Tone
green,
and
we
settled
in
on
the
green.
So
we
could
go
any
color
on
that
pallet
and
we'd
be
open
to
that,
but
we
felt
that
was
probably
the
least
amount
of
disruption
to
the
eye
to
go
with
the
the
darker
green.
A
Thank
you,
Daniel.
G
G
I
would
imagine
the
pressure
release
valve
for
utility
like
this
is
very
different
than
a
residential
one
on
a
boiler,
but
I've
had
mine,
fill
out
consecutively
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
flood.
My
basement
so
I
realize
that's
very
different,
but
if
that
could
be
explained
to
a
lay
population
in
this
neighborhood
awesome
other
than
that
no
comment
heavily.
E
I
think
the
the
setback
provided
a
good
opportunity
to
to
rotate
the
building.
It
seems
like
a
better
choice
and
presents
a
smaller
facade
to
the
Hudson
Street
I
think
the
screening
works
and,
and
otherwise
yeah
I
agree
with,
what's
been
said
to
to
do
the
reach
out
and
make
people
comfortable
and
otherwise
I
think
I'm
comfortable
moving
forward.
A
I
am
never
the
most
negative
person
on
a
project,
and
tonight
tonight's,
the
night,
you
know
I
feel
like
the
appropriate
change
to
mitigate
you
know.
The
design
of
this
was
not
to
go
from
brick
tone
to
Green
to
show
convert
to
only
break.
A
You
know,
that's
that's
the
adequate
design
solution
here
and
between
that
and
not
doing
the
reach
out
in
response
to
specific
comments
from
the
specific
Neighbors
about
question.
If
you
had
specific
answers
to
do
in
this
meeting
that
were
good
answers,
you
know
it
really
feels
like
the
applicant.
Doesn't.
C
A
And
taking
it
seriously
and
I
find
that
very
frustrating.
A
F
Thank
you
and
I'm,
sorry
to
say,
but
I
would
definitely
say:
no
Norway
spruce
it's
an
invasive
tree.
It's
on
the
Tompkins
County
Environmental
Management.
He
also.
F
Thing
but
I
can
give
some
suggestions
for
other
screen,
trees
and
I
kind
of
you
can
find
somebody.
They
call
divides
that
are
a
little
less
attractive
to
deers,
but
other
spruces
would
work
well
too,
and
I
can
get
those
you
know
offline
as
well.
The
other
thing
that
I
think
we
should
mention
of
Arna.
F
But
that
will
change
the
schedule
of
the
planning
board
as
well,
and
that's
for
that
percent.
Building
on
the
lot
size,
yeah
and
I
was
I
was
also
going
to
mention
the
neighborhood
just
that
the
neighbors
have,
but
the
staff
know
that
they
have
not
received
any
information
on
the
building
itself.
D
Just
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
those
are
the
feelings
that
I'm
having
and
it's
the
feelings
that
I
have
about
larger
buildings
that
are
more
impactful
to
the
city.
That
I've
been
trying
to
express
in
the
past
is
materiality
and
using
better
materials
and
so
I
think,
at
least
for
me,
this
is
a
very
utilitarian
building
in
a
kind
of
a
low-key
location.
Sure.
A
F
Sorry
I
was
going
to
say:
I
agree
with
you
know
with
both
it
is
utilitarian,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
some
neighborhood
concerns
for
women
being
at
a
corner
and
very
Visual
and
having
some
historic
houses
surrounding
it.
So
there
still
is
a
concern
for
the
Aesthetics
yeah,
and
maybe
this
would
you
know
blend
in
well
with
that
I'm
glad
it
is
set
back
too
I.
Think
that
looks
better
and
having
a
screening
you
know,
does
work,
but.
A
F
Yeah
I,
just
you
know
it's
a
I
know
it's
a
very
small
project,
but
it's
not
a
corner.
It
doesn't
kind
of
have
any
there's
nobody
there
and
nobody's
gonna
live
in
it
nobody's
gonna
care
for
it.
It's
you
know.
It
is
not
a
highly
it's
a
corner
and
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
so
it
means
to
be
less
compatible
as
much
as
possible
process.
F
What's
next
process
well,
your
process
would
be.
Did
you
already
do
anything.
A
F
And
public
hearing
too
so
and
I
just
feel
like
there's,
there's
so
much
more.
You
can
do
to
make
this
building
look
compatible
with
the
neighbor
and
make
it
so
that
when
you
drive
by
it
you're
not
like.
Oh
that's
a
regulator
station,
it's
just
like
you
know,
I
mean
but
I
know
that's,
maybe
not
it's
going
to
be
here,
nobody's
going
to
live
in
this
building.
So
you
know
it's
going
to
stay
in
this
location.
It's
not
available.
F
A
The
public
hearing
and
the
resolution
is
for
us:
it
is
there
a
motion
to
open
public
here.
I
see,
Elizabeth
move
I
saw
Emily.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
of
opening
public
hearing
public
hearing
is
now
open.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
on
this
project?
You
know
what
I'm
saying
no
one
on
Zoom
or
in
person
is
there
a
motion
to
close
public
hearing
I
see
Elizabeth
who
I
saw
Daniel?
Second,
all
those
in
favor
of
closing
public
hearing
public
hearing
is
now
closed.
A
A
I'll
ask
again:
I
saw
Emily
move
and
Daniel
II
I'll
open
up
discussion.
I'll
say
that
while
I
have
concerns
with
this
project,
I
don't
believe
it
rises
to
the
level
or
you
know,
are
any
type
of
concerns
that
you
caused
me
to
moved
against
the
negative
and,
if
there's
any
other,
questions
or
comments
relating
to
the
resolution
or
the
name
deck
now
would
be
the
time.
Yes.
F
Please
I
was
just
gonna
say
there
isn't
the
part
two
entry
and
the
part
three
is
a
lot
longer
you'll
see
than
you
most
see.
So
that's
because
of
the
environmental
questions.
G
A
A
Buildings
in
the
city
that
were
were
brick
and
that
many
people
consider
Charming.
K
A
This
debatable,
but
and
I
think
that
we
shared
the
addresses
over
the
leaves
and
Rob
is
what
you're
saying
to
you.
You
think
that
you
think
that
to
mitigate
the
sort.
A
I
mean
I
think
Charming
might
be
a
high
bar,
but
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
engagement
with
the
wishes
of
this
board,
as
it
relates
to
the
planning
impacts
on
this
building,
both
in
the
way
it
physically
presents
to
the
community
and
to
the
way
that
it
is
communicated
in
its
community
and
neither
has
happened.
D
Okay,
so.
F
T
All
right
comment
sure
is
this:
an
item
that
could
be
discussed
further
with
staff
with
more
representative
pictures
to
go
to
a
full-built
brick
structure
for
utility
enclosure.
T
T
It
was
a
steel
building
metal
where
you've
seen
building
and
are
there
other
ways
that
we
can
dress
up
the
appearance
of
it,
either
by
Foundation
plantings
or
other
type
of
vegetative
screening
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
as
opposed
to
overhauling
the
the
overall
work
methods
for
the
building,
I
would
say
that
the
traditional
built
brick
buildings
that
I
do
see
with
utility
structures
I
find
them
more
along
the
lines
of
water
treatment
plants.
You
know
things
of
a
little
bit
more
comprehensive
project.
T
This
is
a
corner
that
is
somewhat
screen,
and
it's
not
right.
Next
to
any
homes,
but
it
is
an
area
that
we
could
enhance
it,
especially
you
know
specifically
from
what
it
is
right
now.
It's
kind
of
a.
A
F
I
mean
I
understand
that
this
isn't
a
typical.
You
know,
that's
not
how
they
took
them
to
do
things.
This
is
an
unusual
location
for
to
me
for
the
utility
building
on
a
corner
in
a
residential
neighborhood
and
where
you
would
normally
see
a
house.
So
we
don't.
You
know
it
shouldn't
Stand
Out
overly
stand
out
as
it
needs
to
be
disguised.
G
I
just
have
one
follow-on
to
the
question
the
applicant
just
asked
I
mean
there
are
alternatives
without
having
to
settle
to
just
you
know,
plantings
and
barriers.
Brick
veneer
I
think
has
gotten
better,
it's
not
the
greatest
material,
but
it's
a
fair
compromise
for
not
needing
to
you
know
sort
of
erect
a
full
brick
structure
while
being
respective
of
the
fact
this
is
a
residential,
neighborhood,
I
think
upon
first
impression.
G
Maybe
some
of
us
didn't
react.
The
way
we
would
have
if
this
had
been
in
maybe
Cayuga,
Heights,
right
or
or
Fall
Creek
or
something
right,
but
I
think
it
merits
the
same
degree
of
of
care
as
those
neighborhoods.
G
C
F
Brick,
there's
also
thin
brick
and
there's
other
ways
in
which
you
could
and
Rick
Logan.
That
is
not
stand
hungry,
so
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
other
options.
All.
F
I
just
wanted
to
add
those
were
great.
Thank
you
that
the
the
building
actually
right
behind
it.
There
is
a
residential
hall.
B
C
B
B
A
Good
contact
lately
and
I
think
it's
a
place
to
leave
it.
You
know
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
what
we
see
from
the
applicant
next
month.
F
D
So
this
is
the
heel
from
American
page.
We
spoke
earlier
related
to
the
diner
in
the
same
building.
I
play
everyone.
It
is
instead
of
a
social
permit.
It
is
a
can.
You
hear
me
all
right
on
Zoom
or
do
I
need
to
move
up.
Okay,
great,
it
was
a
approved
for
a
commercial
use
in
a
residential
Zone,
there's
an
Orange
County
district
and
it
was
approved
with
two
conditions.
D
Yeah
so
overall
they
I
believe
for
their
social
media.
We
use
a
an.
A
To
agree
with
that
I'll
say:
I,
don't
know
how
to
necessarily
talk
about
my
Sunday
night
of
preferences
in
a
way
that's
usually
important,
but
the
fact
that
there
is
you
know
an
effort.
A
community
outreach
community
outreach
as
far
as
we
can
tell
have
been
positive
and
that
this
is
an
existing
use
and
I
don't
know.
Is
there
anything
else
to
be
said
here.
A
I,
don't
see
any
negative
planning
impact,
Community
I
like
that
anything
else.
We
want
to
say
on
this
all
right,
I
think,
that's
it
for
old
and
new
business.
The
only
thing
I'll
say
is
that
as
soon
as
we
adjourn
we'll
start
our
Retreats
and
give
you
a
call,
I'll
Retreat
is
scheduled
tonight
hope
you
have
a
blocked
out
until
midnight,
it
didn't
take
any
longer
and
we
need
a
new
member.
You
know
we're
down
CJ
and
we
need
somebody
here
to
to
help
us
out.
A
So
if
you
know
anybody
good
try
to
talk
them
into
joining
us.
A
It's
tiger
tree
when's,
the
next
good
Tuesday
May,
all.
B
A
A
And
we
did
educate
students
with
water
bills
and
ensure
that
somebody's
yeah.
B
A
Fair
enough
I'd,
like
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight,
I
realize
that
this
is
a
challenge
for
a
number
of.
A
Thank
you,
I
appreciate,
you
know,
appreciate
being
able
to
bring
it
home
tonight
with
that
I
would
take
a
motion
to
adjourn
I,
see
Elizabeth,
who
I
see
Emily's.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
have
a
good
evening.
Everyone
and.