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A
D
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Sorry,
Sam
I
didn't
see
you
on
Ron,
okay,
so
first
up
is
309
Lincoln
Street
rupu,
Hair
Salon.
If
they
are
here.
B
B
H
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
I'm,
actually
acting
on
behalf
of
the
of
the
business
owner,
Robbie
Brown,
who's,
I,
guess:
I
was
not
able
to
make
it
I
I,
don't
see
Robbie,
but
he
so
so.
Historically,
I
guess:
they've
they've
had
a
you
know:
ability
to
do
a
hair
salon
there,
but
not
on
weekends
and
there's.
H
What
he
he
wants
to
be
able
to
do
is
to
bring
people
in
that
he
has
his
clients
he's
had
traditionally
to
you
know
to
be
serviced
with
haircuts.
H
It's
it's
hard
for
people
to
get
in
there
on
their
work
hours,
and
he
has
a
lot
of
Cornell
base
folks.
So
it's
hard
for
them
to
get
in
from
five
to
eight
on
weekdays.
H
So
all
he
wants
to
do
is
be
able
to
get.
You
know
people
in
on
really
on
the
curve
hours
or
the
off
hours
of
the
weekend
so
or
or
the
week
so
that
he
can.
You
know
service
them.
Basically,
that's
his
goal
really
is.
Is
to
be
able
to
to
do
that.
It's
it.
It
went.
You
know
from
a
I,
I
guess
from
Logistics
standpoint.
This
is
not
a
another
thing
that
would
anybody
would
actually
ever
see.
H
He's
he's
really
I
mean
the
business
is
really
kind
of
stealth.
You
wouldn't
know
he's
actually
working
on
the
weekends.
It's
pretty
pretty
easy
to
to
come
in
there.
Most
people
are
walking
distance
and
I.
Don't
know
I'm,
probably
not
explaining
this
great,
but
that's
that's.
What's
going
on.
D
Okay
concerns.
E
Sure
so
I
understand
that
we're
adding
two
days
instead
of
Monday
through
Friday
we're
adding
Saturday
and
Sunday
and
we're
adding
hours
in
the
evening,
which
seems
to
make
sense,
total
sense
to
me
and
it
being
right
next
to
the
Lincoln
Diner
it
we
already
have
traffic
there.
We
already
have
extra
cars
there.
So
I,
don't
think,
like
you
said,
I,
don't
think
neighbors
would
notice
and
that
the
space
seems
very
small
I.
E
D
B
You
know
addressing
noise
like
that.
There
won't
be
an
impact
if
there
is
not
on
noise
and
traffic
and
parking,
and
you
know
character
to
the
neighborhood.
It's
not
changing
because
it's
already
there
so
I
think
that
would
be
good
and
they
also
Rick
did
not
mention
this,
but
he
did
do
a
survey
on
his
social
medias
and
he
has
support
from
I
think
almost
600
people
Rick.
That
is.
I
B
F
Just
a
couple
things
and
with
special
permits,
it's
really
the
adjacent.
You
know
the
close-in
neighbors
that
are
the
you
know
that
you
have
to
consider
the
most
in
the
neighborhood,
but
if
you're
adding
that
many
hours
can
you
confirm-
or
maybe
this
is
in
the
application?
Nikki
I,
don't
know
if
you
are
adding
a
station
in
the
in
the
in
the
facility
or
is
it
just
still
going
to
be
one
person
so.
E
H
So
that's
that's
a
great
question.
Probably
what
will
happen
is
the
hours
that
he
does.
Work
now
will
probably
lessen
actually
because
he
he
can't,
he
can't
actually
service
people.
He
wants
a
service
because
they're
at
work.
So
what
probably
happened?
Is
he
he's
only
one
guy?
So
this
is
not
going
to
add
an
it.
H
He
cared
anastasian
and
you
know
have
another
person
work
there
as
well,
but
right
now,
that's
not
the
plan.
The
plan
is
just
for
him
he's
a
pretty
talented
guy
and
it's
really
for
him
to
service
the
people
that
he's
been
traditionally
Servicing
in
the
past.
So.
F
F
B
H
Yeah,
so
just
well
just
so
I'm
clear
I'm,
not
saying
he
wouldn't
add
somebody
he
you
know
he's.
Traditionally
he
worked.
He
worked
at
I
I
think
it's
called
Traditions
I'm,
not
really
sure,
but
it
was
over
by
by
Lowe's.
There
he's
worked
with
people
over
there,
but
so
far,
I
I
think
he's
really
comfortable
working
well
alone.
F
F
And
if
you
just
look
at
it
on
the
face
of
it
seven
days
a
week
until
nine
o'clock
one
day,
you
know
if
that
were
to
operate
all
of
those
hours
that
could
potentially
have
an
impact.
I,
don't
know
you
know.
So
if
that's
not
the
intention
to
operate
all
those
hours,
that
would
be
helpful
information
to.
H
Support
yeah
I
mean
this
is
only
one
person
I'm
asking
the
same
thing
about
for
the
diner,
so
it's
it's
really
the
business
owner
is,
wants
flexibility
here
and
and
there's
no
way
he
can
work
seven
days
a
week
for
the
right.
H
D
Okay,
so
I
think
we're
done
with
that.
Next
up
is
Argos
in.
H
J
Okay,
so
you
can
hear
me
all
right:
okay,
good!
As
far
as
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
share
with
this
project
we
will
be
going
to
IB
ilpc
on
Tuesday.
J
This
is
it'll,
be
our
second
meeting.
They
asked
for
some
additional
information,
more
specifics
and
details,
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
providing
all
that.
So,
hopefully
that
meeting
goes
well
and
we
can
get
approval.
A
J
J
So
we
were
kicking
around
some
ideas
and
we
met
with
Megan
Wilson
on
Monday
and
I.
Think
our
first
Avenue
of
that
we're
gonna
try
is
to
potentially
try
and
remove
the
parking
requirement
for
the
B4
Zone
darn
that
many
Parcels
in
the
zone
and
it
sounded
like
Megan-
was
dealing
with
another
owner
or
project
up
near
Stewart.
J
Ave
I
think
that
had
a
similar
parking
variance
that
they
were
going
to
require
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
our
first
Avenue
and
then
we've
got
a
couple
other
ideas
before
having
to
go
back
and
necessarily
push
a
BCA,
a
parking
variants.
J
So
anyway,
that's
mostly
what
we've
been
working
on.
I
don't
have
much
else,
but
we
also
didn't
get
a
ton
of
feedback
at
the
initial
meeting.
So
if
people
have
any
other
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
F
So,
just
to
be
clear,
Greg
I
mean
this
means
that
it's
not
certain
that
this
will
move
forward,
that
to
remove
the
parking
requirements.
It's
not
our
decision,
the
political
decision
and
that
could
take
some
time.
So
are
you
withdrawing
consideration
of
this
at
this
time
until
we.
J
F
I
would
say
the
timing
of
that
is
a
little
bit
off
if
I
mean,
if
the
difference
between
a
project
with
76
car
variants
and
a
project
with
zero
car
parking
variants
is
kind
of
large
to
it's
kind
of
a
big
deal.
I
I,
yeah,
I,
wouldn't
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
take
this
through
in
this
particular
situation.
We
couldn't
take
it
very
far
until.
A
J
And
maybe
I
misunderstood
Megan
I
mean
so
obviously
she
was
trying
to
get
feedback
from
from
people
they're
on
common
counselor
or
and
people.
J
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
yeah
I
I
was
yeah
under
the
impression
that
it
could
go
very
fairly
quickly
depending
on
if
there's
no
opposition
or
it
seems
reasonable,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
I
was
getting
the
impression
it
was
a
month.
Maybe
two,
but
maybe
that's.
J
I
guess
I
guess
I
mean
I'm
sort
of
at
your
mercy.
Let
me
know
what
you
think.
As
far
as
you
know,
once
we
know
more
next
week
like
does
it
make
sense
to
kick
the
you
know,
suspend
the
project
for
now
or
continue
the
process
a
little
bit
and
and
see
where
it
goes
in
my
head,
I
was
thinking
that
you
know
we
would
be
on
the
bza
meeting
in
March
anyway,
which
is
you
know
a
couple
months
out,
but
I
I.
J
Yeah,
because
I
guess,
if
this
goes,
we
would
have
to
submit
for
the
bza
next
week
for
March,
because
if
this
idea
is
is
just
shot
down,
then
Avi
we
were
talking
with
Avi
and
he
was.
He
was
fine
with
having
you
know.
The
interior
bar
or
the
outside
bar
open,
wanna
I
think
we
can
dramatically
reduce,
what's
required
for
the
parking
based
on
a
couple
things
with
the
site
plan
and
his
operations.
Yeah.
F
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
for
the
record
that
and
for
anybody
watching
we
can't
change
Zoning
for
one
project
or
one.
It
has
to
be
a
a
overall
issue,
and
so
we
don't
want
to.
Maybe
this
would
that
this
change
could
potentially
affect
your
project,
but
we
have
to
look
at
it
as
a
bigger
issue,
so
you
actually
can't
be
tied
to
your
schedule.
F
You
know
I
mean
we
certainly
if
we
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
we
have
political
support.
We
can
move
forward
with
it.
But
your
schedule
isn't
is
interesting,
but
it
can't
be
the
driver
for
the
decision.
J
D
So
it
sounds
like
as
a
board,
we'll
just
wait
until
there's
further
resolution
on
that
and
we'll
we'll
pause
the
project
for
the
time
being
and
and
Nikki
and
Lisa
I'll,
leave
it
to
you
as
to
mechanically
how
best
administratively
deposit
but
I
don't
think
the
board
can
do
anything
more
on
this
until
we
have
Clarity
on
it.
So,
let's
move
on
okay
thanks.
B
D
So
next
up
is
220
Grandview,
NYSEG
regulator,
station.
B
B
L
All
right,
sorry,
I
just
dropped
a
live
stream
and
I
didn't
hear
the
transition.
So
thank
you
can
I
share
my
screen.
L
Brc
meeting
this
is
probably
my
first
PRC
meeting
so
I'm
gonna
go
at
this.
The
way
I
think
I
should,
if
I'm
missing
some
information,
or
you
have
questions
please
ask
away.
Since
we
met
last
month
in
December
at
the
planning
board
meeting,
we
did
have
some
takeaways
that
I
talked
through
with
NYSEG
again
my
name
is
Arnold
Larson
with
DDS
companies.
L
Nyseg
was
not
able
to
join
us
today.
His
name
is
Josh
Sheldon,
but
he
was
not
able
to
make
today's
meeting.
We
are
still
on
track
and
eager
for
our
meeting
to
occur
with
the
planning
board
on
January
24th
and
so
we're
working
through
that
process.
Since
our
planning
board
discussion
in
December,
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
color,
so
I
wanted
to
touch
base
on
color
we
are
going
with.
These
is
most
of
the
the
participants
on
the
call
aware
of
the
project
and
the
discussions
previously.
L
All
right
so
and
I
won't
rehash
the
whole
scope
of
the
work
and
things
of
that
sort.
Just
I'll
talk
about
changes
that
we
are
pursuing
and
some
things
I
want
to
have
some
Dialogue
on.
So
to
start
was
the
building
color.
This
is
a
lakelands
precast,
concrete
building
for
the
utility
enclosure.
L
It
is
concrete
and
will
have
double
doors
on
either
side,
steel
doors,
the
precast,
concrete
walls
and
concrete
roof
can
be
colorized,
and
initially
we
were
thinking
to
color
it
to
that
of
something
similar
to
the
church,
and
this
is
a
representative
picture
here
in
the
center,
and
this
is
that
the
church-
that's
there-
you
know
just
down
the
road
to
the
west
of
us,
so
we
were
going
along
the
lines
of
the
red
brick.
L
Well,
we
heard
at
the
planning
board
was
well.
Maybe
we
should
consider
green
and
by
all
means
a
Green's,
a
good
option.
This
green
here
is
a
little
bit
too
bright
for
our
liking.
This
is
just
a
photo
rendering.
So
it's
it's
not
a
true
color,
but
it's
a
close
color.
L
What
we're
leaning
towards
is
this
color
here,
which
is
more,
that's
called
a
muddy
gray,
but
it's
kind
of
a
darker
tone,
green
and
talking
that
through
at
NYSEG
they
definitely
would
be
receptive
to
switching
from
the
red
brick
to
match
that
of
the
church
to
the
darker
tone,
Earth
shade
of
green.
They
could
go
tan
and
they
can
go
darker,
brick,
I
didn't
know
if
the
city
had
an
an
opinion.
Our
North
Titus
Road
regulator
station
that
was
built
I
think
three
years
ago.
L
Now
that's
more
of
a
desert,
tan,
metal,
building
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
a
color
that
the
city
would
rather
see
we
are
talking
about.
How
does
It
Blend
into
the
backdrop
and
the
backdrop
does
contain
some
trees,
so
maybe
the
dark
green
is
is
what
the
city
would
prefer
and
we're
definitely
on
board
with
that
we'll
anyone
from
the
PRC
give
comment
to
a
direction.
You
want
us
to
go.
E
Sure
I
think
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
it
was
my
suggestion
in
the
big
meeting
last
month
to
go
for
green
and
the
the
second
green
you
show
is
way
too
bright,
but
I
think
any
of
the
other
options
seem
to
work
and
would
blend
in
I
think
maybe
the
bright
red
is
still
too
bright,
but
your
first
choice
and
any
of
the
Tans
or
Browns
I
think
would
be
very
understated
on
that
corner
and
the
brick
look
seems
to
be
a
more
quality
material
than
others.
D
F
L
F
We
have
regulator
buildings
around
the,
not
regular
buildings.
We
have
pump
houses
around
the
city
that
are
brick
they're,
built
in
like
1930s
or
something
and
they're
very
charming,
and
they
have
character
and
they're
made
of
brick.
I
would
kind
of
look
at
those,
because
it's
not
just
the
materials
and
the
color.
It's
also
the
way
making
it
look
like
something
that
adds
to
the
neighborhood
I
think
so
you
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
those
okay.
E
Yeah
I
keep
thinking
about
the
one
on
Cherry,
Street
or
yeah
I.
Think
there's
one
on
on
Route.
E
And
I
totally
agree.
I
think
I
missed
that
this
was
like
a
stamped
concrete,
Farm
liner,
so
I
agree
with
Lisa
that
if
you
can
do
a
brick
veneer
that
would
be
preferred.
L
I
would
like
to
I
guess
Nikki
if
you
could
provide
some
locations
for
those
two
on
13
and
one
on
Jerry
Street.
We
can
investigate
that
and
I'll
talk
this
through
with
NYSEG
and
I'll,
be
prepared
to
talk,
give
an
update
at
the
planning
board
meeting.
L
You,
the
other
item
that
was
discussed,
was
additional
landscaping
and
we
talked
about
how
there
were
some
understory
shrubs.
There's
some
canopy
trees
that
we're
proposing
these
three
on
on
the
east
side,
the
proposed
Tree
on
the
west
side,
but
it
was
the
north
side,
was
the
area
of
concern.
There
is
a
structure
to
the
north
I,
don't
know
if
it's
residently
occupied
or
if
it's
commercially
occupied,
but
it
is
a
structure.
L
L
D
D
So
maybe
yeah
I
don't
know
what
to
say
about
that.
But
I
think
that's
a
misnomer.
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
was
going
to
talk
more
to
a
a
tree
specialist
about
it.
The
Western
species
are
supposed
to
be
more
deer
resistant
than
the
Eastern
species,
I'm
a
civil
engineer,
I'm,
not
a
landscape
architect,
so
I
can't
say
for
sure,
but
I
was
going
to
investigate
that
if
it
truly
is
dear
resistant
and
if
the
Western
species
is
something
that
would
be
it's
more
of
the
red
cedar
species,
it's
the
Western
species,
if
that's
appropriate
for
Ithaca.
L
If
it's
not,
then
we
would
go
just
down
the
path
of
a
traditional
Evergreen,
Spruce
type
tree.
That
would
be
truly
deer.
Resistant.
L
D
I'll
leave
it
to
others,
but
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
plants
that
are
resistant,
meaning
the
deer
prefer
not
to
eat
them,
but
we'll
eat
them.
And
then
there
are
plants
that
the
deer
just
don't
eat
and
it
has
to
be
the
latter
because
eventually,
if
they're
hungry
enough
they'll
eat
something
they
don't
they
don't
care
for.
And
then
it's
all
waste
yeah.
L
Point
what
I
want
to
go
for
is
some
coniferous
type
tree
yeah,
that
is,
that
the
deer
don't
eat.
So
if
an
arborvitae
is
not
the
species,
then
we'll
we'll
look
for
something
else,
but
I'll
investigate
that
more
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with
for
what
the
recommended
species
would
be.
D
Great
great
Emily,
sir.
E
Yeah,
maybe
I
can
help
take
some
work
off
of
of
Nikki's
plate.
I
found
the
two
substations.
If
can
I
share
my
screen.
B
E
Okay,
can
you
see
mine
so
the
first
one
is
at
on
Cherry
Street
at
Cecile,
Malone
Drive
right
here.
E
E
E
L
F
I
also
wanted
to
to
is
there
okay,
Garrett
can
I
ask
something,
of
course
you're,
not
removing
the
sidewalk.
Are
you
there's
a
sidewalk
all
along
that
it
isn't
in
your
site,
plan.
L
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
again:
yep
I
don't
have
a
sidewalk
all
along
here
on
Grant.
F
L
Yeah
there's
some
people
walk
on
the
east
side
of
Hudson.
This
is
a
gravel.
L
L
Okay,
the
other
comments
that
we
got
from
more
from
the
residents
and
I've
been
talking
to
NYSEG
about
our
response
to
these
issue
and
there's
three
issues.
One
was
noise
level,
gassy
missions
and
odor,
and
the
third
was
potential
for
explosion.
So
I
want
to
talk
through
those
three
items
with
you
on
the
regulator
station.
The
the
what
generates
noise
in
a
regulator
station
is
no
mechanical
operating
equipment
within
this
building,
there's
no
electrical
and
there's
no
mechanical
operating.
That
is,
you
know,
powered
by
electricity
at
a
regulator
station.
L
You
get
noise
when
we
take
a
higher
pressure
gas
and
you
drop
it
down
to
a
lower
pressure,
and
then
the
regulator
generates
its
its
own
noise.
When
you
have
gas
flowing
through
pipes
at
a
very
high
velocity,
that
also
creates
noise.
We're
going
from
60
pounds
is
our
Inlet
pressure.
Much
like
you'd
have
in
your
in
your
house
for
your
water
line
pressure
and
we're
dropping
down
to
one
pound
at
this
location.
Here
that
would
is
by
analysis
under
a
normal
flow
Condition.
It's
it's
around
65
decibels
under
maximum
flow
conditions.
L
For
this
regulator.
Station
has
designed
my
system
planning,
it
gets
upwards
of
68
decibels.
68
decibels
is
similar
to
that
of
roadway
traffic
in
a
city,
70
decibels,
probably
more
the
threshold
of
roadway
traffic.
So
it's
it's
not
excessive.
Noise
I've
been
in
some
regulator
stations
when
they're
110
decibels
and
it's
ear
piercing.
L
This
is
a.
We
call
this
a
district
regulator,
so
it's
a
small
glow,
Vlog
low
flow
and
relatively
minor
pressure
cut.
So
it
does
not
generate
a
lot
of
noise
and
the
other
thing
that
helps
us
here
is
it's
a
masonry
structure,
it's
concrete,
and
that
does
help
to
bend
the
noise
too.
So,
from
a
noise
perspective,
it
should
be
a
little
noise.
L
The
pressures
that
are
all
right,
they're
experienced
at
North
Titus,
are
similar
and
that's
within
a
metal
building,
which
would
be
a
little
less
effective
in
dampening
the
noise.
So
we
feel
like
this
building
choice
is
a
good
choice
and
the
pressures
should
not
generate
the
pressure.
Cut
should
not
generate
High
noise,
foreign.
L
Any
question
on
noise
or
comments
on
noise,
okay,
natural
gas
emissions-
this
is
a
it's
a
sealed
unit
within
this
building.
There
are
no
vents.
There
are
no
emissions
of
natural
gas
and
that
will
they're
being
fully
contained
will
not
generate
odors
that
you
would
have
at
a
regular
City
Gate
when
you
are
actually
like
introducing
order
into
natural
gas.
L
L
The
potential
for
explosion
would
be
if
there
was
an
emission-
and
there
was
a
buildup
of
gas
if
there
was
electrical
source
which
we
have
in
all
electrical
components
within
this
building,
and
since
we
have
no
vents
within
this
building,
there's
no
emission
of
gas,
so
it's
potential
potential
for
explosion
is
really
limited,
limited
to
like
over
pressurization.
So
let's
say
this
system
were
to
experience
too
much
pressure
higher
than
that
of
what
the
pipes
are
designed
for.
L
That's
when
you
could
have
a
potential
for
a
price,
a
pipe
burst
or
a
flanged
pipe
connection
to
leak.
However,
with
per
state
code,
there
is
a
over
pressure,
ization
relief
valve-
that
is
a
part
of
the
design
here
and
in
the
event
of
there
being
a
excessive
pressure
occur
event.
There
is
a
relief
valve
to
relieve
that
pressure.
That
is
why
we
feel
that
there's
very
little
chance
for
an
explosion
here.
It
would
only
be
if
it
was
over
pressurized
and
there's
a
relief
valve
in
place
to
address
that
issue.
L
So
what
we
wanted
to
do,
Mickey
and
Lisa,
you
know
we
talked
about.
How
do
we
have
some
type
of
a
notice
that
goes
out
to
the
residents
nearby
residents?
L
F
You
know
I,
don't
know
if
the
Garrick
or
Emily
yeah,
yeah
and
in
terms
of
the
noise
can
you
is
there
another
regulator
station
in
town
that
has
the
same
pressure
that
we
could
same
noise
level
that
we
could
visit.
L
Yeah
North
Titus,
the.
B
If
you
could,
please
Supply
that
documentation
to
us
for
the
thief
for
the
board
correct.
L
B
B
L
Yeah
I
can
I
can
do
that.
I
am
a
licensed
engineer.
This
is
our
analysis
softwares
that
we
use
for
the
regulator,
design,
and
so
it
is
within
and
I'm
still
sharing.
It
is
within
here
where
noise
levels
are
analyzed
and
went
under
our
normal
and
our
maximum
flow
conditions.
We
can
see
the
what
the
the
noise
levels
will
be.
L
So
I
will
supply
you
and
the
planning
board
this
information
as
well.
D
E
I'm
just
doing
a
Google
walk
on
North
Titus.
Is
it
at
the
East
End.
F
A
F
On
the
yeah,
across
from
the
homes,
okay,
it
was
like
12
feet
tall
or
something
it.
F
L
We
had
to
screen
this
one
and
there
was
really
very
little
room
between
the
curb
and
the
building.
Traditionally
I
wouldn't
do
the
green
screen
Vine
systems,
because
I
I
don't
know
that
they
do
the
best
at
all
locations,
we'd
rather
put
in
trees,
but
there
wasn't
a
room
for
trees
here.
L
B
One
question:
if
I
could
Eric,
if
you
don't
mind,
there's
on
the
map,
it
appears
there
is
a
tcat
bus
station.
Is
that
correct
to
your
knowledge
on
Grandview
right
there
at
the
corner
of
Grandview
in
Hudson.
B
F
L
A
B
L
You
currently
right
now
the
only
thing
is:
there's
a
guard
rail
or
a
guide
rail
I'll
call
it
that's
sitting
there
and
but
there's
no
enclosures,
there's
no
paved
area
for
a
bus.
Stop
but
I'll
look
up
and
I'll
coordinate
with
you,
Nikki
on
what
I
find.
L
I
will
say
thank
you,
Nikki
and
Lisa
for
all
your
help.
Trying
to
get
to
this
point
coaching
me
through
the
process
appreciate
it
nice,
eager
for
the
24th
and
we'll
keep
the
information
that
we
need
to.
A
A
L
A
D
D
N
Okay,
good
morning,
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning,
good
morning,
I've
got
Tony
Ewing
the
applicant.
This
is
George
Claremont
for
those
that
I
have
not
met.
F
D
Maybe
if
any
YouTubes
could
be
muted
and
then
introduce
your
team,
oh.
D
Okay
good
morning,
if
you
could
just
introduce
your
team
and
then
update
us
on
where
the
project
stands,.
I
Good
morning,
Tony
Ewing,
representing
ownership,
Alpha
Phi
Alpha
good
morning
and
George
Claremont
with
aepmi
our
lead
architect
joining
George's
Frank
joining
us
this
morning.
N
Okay,
Can:
can
everyone
see
this.
N
N
Okay,
this
was
the
the
site
plan
that
we
had
submitted
for
the
previous
meeting
last
month,
and
we
were,
we
didn't,
receive
some
comments
from
engineering
we
reached
out
with
some
of
our
concerns,
but
we
have
addressed
certain
items.
N
One
thing
that
we
are
wrapping
up
is
our
electrification
of
of
the
of
the
project
in
order
to
comply
with
energy
code
supplement,
and
we
are,
we've
had
to
add
another
pad
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
in
order
to
to
power
our
equipment
for
our
heat
pumps
that
are
required
to
heat
the
building
and
and
additional
condensers
for
our
hydronic
Heat.
N
N
So
there
is
a
potential
that
we
may
have
to
find
another
location
on
the
site
for
our
increase
in
service
I'm,
going
to
minimize
this
and
show
the
updated
the
progress
plan
that
TG
Miller
provided
us,
and
this
indicates
more
HVAC
equipment
and
we're
trying
to
tuck
it
on
the
left
side
of
the
building,
which
has
the
the
the
best
opportunity
with
the
site,
and
we
do
plan
on
screening
it
with
landscape
low-level
shrubs.
N
We
we
have
indicated
offense,
but
that's
just
that's
really
to
protect
any
kind
of
unwanted
you
know
accessed
by
Critters,
or
you
know,
students
just
to
prevent
any
kind
of
disturbance
of
our
equipment.
Another
comment
that
was
that
was
raised
by
engineering
was
to
provide
curbs
along
Highland,
Avenue
and
Westbrook
I'm.
Sorry,
Westborn.
N
And
another
curb
at
Wyckoff
and
Highland
we've
reached
out
to
the
folks
at
engineering
regarding
their
request
to
provide
an
additional
sidewalk
along
Westbrook
and
indicated
that
in.
N
Oh
I'm,
sorry
Wyckoff,
my
apologies
and
we
we've
noticed
that
we've
got
utility
poles
and
a
fire
hydrant
located
along
this.
This
strip
of
the
street,
and
also
it
turns
out
that
the
the
main
pedestrian
walk
on
Wyckoff
is
across
the
street.
So
we're
thinking
that
that
would
be.
That
would
be,
it
would
actually
add
a.
I
Tremendous
there's
also
storm
water,
gutters,
there's
a
there's,
a
a
a
you
know,
a
cult
at
a
culvert,
a
Swale
of
sorts.
You
know
rock
built
Swale
along
that
right
along
the
curb
line
of
Wyckoff,
so
any
any
attempts
to
put
a
walkway
on
that
side
would,
in
our
you
know,
first
opinion
really
substantially
disrupt
again:
utilities
utility
poles,
as
well
as
storm
water
control,.
N
The
the
intent
was
from
our
perspective
was
to.
We
knew
that
there'd
be
a
quite
a
bit
of
sight,
disturbance
and,
and
we
thought
we
did
not
want
to
go
over
an
acre
of
of
site
disturbance.
N
So
in
addition,
we
we
think
that
the
neighborhood
has
its
character.
The
entire
neighborhood
is
historic
and
adding
more
impervious
surface,
as
suggested
by
engineering
along
Westborn
Lanes.
To
continue
this
sidewalk
for
pedestrian
convenience
would
sort
of
would
be
overreaching
above
and
beyond
what
the
evision
intent
was.
N
In
addition
in
researching
the
the
existing
survey
it,
it
turns
out
that
this
walk
is,
although
it's
used
by
other
other
pedestrians
it,
it
seems
to
have
been
dedicated
for
access
to
directly
to
Westborn
Lane,
and
we
would
just
be
improving
it
and
again
trying
not
to
disturb
more
of
the
site
that,
as
as
minimal
of
disturbance
as
we
we
could
based
on
the
project
parameters.
N
So
we
were,
we
were
looking
for
some
some
feedback
regarding
those
items.
F
Well,
I'll
give
you
a
little
feedback,
so
in
terms
of
the
sidewalk,
it
is
a
extremely
it's.
In
fact,
the
boards
one
of
the
boards
main
objectives
is
to
make
sure
that
there
are
sidewalks
on
all
new
projects,
so
all
new
projects
either
have
to
replace
their
sidewalks
to
be
ADA
Compliant
if
they're
not
or
install
sidewalks.
So
it
is
a
big
goal
of
the
city
and
responsibility
of
the
board
to
make
sure
there's
adequate
pedestrian,
this
amenities
on
a
site,
and
you
have
a
big
site
with
a
lot
of
Frontage.
F
P
Yeah,
you
know
the
the
side.
A
sidewalk
on
Wyckoff
I
believe
that
there
is
a
it's
essentially,
a
new
walk
that
was
installed
along
the.
P
There's
there's
no
real
other.
You
know
access
off
the
South
Side
anyways.
If
there
were
other
houses
along
the
south
side
of
Wyckoff
I
think
it
would
make
more
sense
to
put
a
sidewalk
but
and
then
my
only
other
comment
would
be
from
a
you
know
from
a
storm
water
standpoint.
If
you
go
through
the
the
DC's
recommendations,
if
you
can
avoid
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
the
street
from
a
storm
water
perspective
anyways,
it's
it's.
P
It's
encouraged
not
to
put
on
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
the
street
if
it's
not
really
needed.
So
so
the
walk
on
the
North
side,
I
think
really
serves
the
neighborhood
to
the
West.
Adding
a
sidewalk
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
really
doesn't
give
anybody
any
better
access
to
to
the
neighborhood
in
my
mind,
but
you.
F
Know:
I
I,
I
I,
don't
you
know
I,
don't
it's
hard
for
me
to
and
I
think
maybe
the
board
to
evaluate
that
based
on
this
drawing.
So
if
you
were
to
provide
a
circulation,
pull
out
and
provide
a
circulation
plan
and
see
where
the
sidewalks
are
and
where
they're
not,
then
the
board
would
be
able
to
see
if
there's
a
gap
here
that
needs
to
be
filled
in
and
what
it
is
short
of
putting
a
sidewalk
around
the
whole
property.
F
A
P
O
I
I
It's
about
475
feet,
the
same
Traverse,
the
same
trajectory
or
I
should
say
the
same
point-to-point
new
trajectory
along
Westborn
is
actually
closer
to
550
feet
so
pragmatically.
It's
it
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
not
necessarily
serving
a
it's,
not
a
cut
through.
If
you
will,
as
I
think
suggested
by
engineering,
that's
more
convenient
than
taking
the
existing
sidewalks.
I
So
again,
I
don't
know
if
that
lens.
If
that's
a
data
point
that's
considered
in
any
way
but
other
than
the
existing
occupants
along
Westborn
I'm,
not
quite
sure
who
would
opt
to
add
distance
to
their
to
their
walk
along
a
private
road.
E
E
E
Would
you
include
a
little
information
about
them
because
they're
to
all
of
your
points,
I
think
they're,
the
only
other
ones
that
would
use
Westbourne
Lane
on
a
daily
commute
as
a
pedestrian
is
that
are
those
apartments
I'm
seeing
on
Google
Maps?
There
are
lots
of
different
addresses,
so
I
imagine
their
town,
homes
or
apartments
or
something
so
I'm
curious.
If
you
could
add
their
typical
circulation,
do
they
use
Westborn,
or
do
they
go
straight
out
to
Wyckoff
and
I?
Think
that
would
help
me
understand
also
where
sidewalks
might
be
useful.
F
N
Now
Lisa
would
that
have
any
any
conflict
with
you
know,
any
historic
considerations
about
maintaining
as
much
of
the
of
the
characteristic
of
the
original
plan
of
the
neighborhood
or
is.
Is
that
something
that
we
we
shouldn't
be
concerned
about.
F
That's
a
really
good
question:
I
would
talk
to
I,
would
ask
the
our
historic
preservation
person
Brian
about
if
there's
ever,
a
situation
in
which
there's
a
conflict
between
historic
character
and
adding
a
sidewalk
I.
Don't
really
know
the
answer
to
that
and
it
might
be
very
specific
to
might
be
very
specific
to
particular
properties,
but
I
think
your
best
Ian.
We
can
ask
that
question
for
sure,
but
I
think
your
best.
F
You
just
think
you
need
to
give
more
information
about
why
you
don't
think
there
needs
to
be
a
sidewalk,
because
it
is
a
standard
practice
to
okay.
Why
are
sidewalks
and
you
know
again,
you
got
a
lot
of
fun
this
year.
So
that's
one
data
point
you
know,
and
so,
if
you're
gonna
put
sidewalks
or
improve
any
sidewalks,
you
want
it
to
be
the
most
efficient.
N
And-
and
another
question
is
with
respect
to
the
the
property
line
this
is,
it
is
a
private
sidewalk.
You
know
just
looking
at
the
the
diagram
here,
but
along
Westbrook,
we're
kind
of
straddling.
Is
there
any
zoning
considerations
that
we
need
to
to
address
for.
F
A
sidewalk:
no,
it's
not
a
zoning
issue.
There
are
sidewalks
on
private
property,
they.
Q
F
A
B
And
one
other
thing:
sorry:
if
I
could
the
so
that
one
acre
is
important,
probably,
as
you
know,
George
for
a
full
whip,
correct
right,
and
so
you
have
indicated
on
your
application
that
it
is
actually
an
acre
over
an
acre
that
will
be
that
you're
going
to
be
disturbing.
You
know.
A
B
B
Yep
yep
and
on
the
SBR
application
we
can
I
can
actually
connect
you
with
our
stormwater
officer
and
just
and
I'll
make
sure
your
connected
Frank
as
well.
P
B
P
Yeah
I
mean
we
will
the
the
stormwater
design
currently
would
comply
with
the
current
DEC
standards.
We
we're
just
hoping
not
to
have
to
do.
There's
a
lot
of
paperwork
involved
with
doing
the
full
sweat
if
we
can
avoid
it.
Yeah.
P
D
Okay,
is
there
anything
else,
Daniel.
O
O
I
I
just
wanted
to
understand
the
original
one
was
the
one
where
there
are
six.
You
know
it
seems
like
it's
a
bigger
concrete
pad,
but
then
you're
going
with
the
the
one
that's
closer
to
the
property
upon
the.
N
Recommendation
this
this
is
for
the
entire
support
of
the
mechanical
systems
in
the
house.
So,
as
we
were
developing
our
our
loads
for
our
domestic
hot
water,
we
had
to
add
more
units,
no.
O
A
N
It
is
it's
not
an
either
or
the
the
first
initial
six
from
the
previous
submission
was
based
on
our
understanding
of
what
our
loads
were
and
then
as
we're
as
we're
going
with
the
complete
electrification
of
of
the
house,
our
domestic
hot
water,
just
just
increased
the
units
required.
D
Okay,
unless
there's
anything
else,
I
think
I
think
we're
done
for
today
and
we'll
see
you
later
this
month.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
D
All
right
good
morning,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
you
guys
to
introduce
your
team
and
maybe
update
us
on
the
project.
Please
all.
G
G
G
So
this
site
plan
here,
which
I'm
not
sure
if
the
board
has
received
yet
but
was
sent
to
staff,
as
you
can
see
on
the
back
here,
were
inside
the
rear
setback
now
and
then
that
Shrunk
the
whole
footprint
on
the
back
apartments
and
we
lost
10
bedrooms
so
little
economically
challenged
now,
but
we
got
to
make
do
so
so
that
that's
really
the
big
update,
the
rear
yard
is
obviously
a
little
bit
larger.
G
Having
a
little
bit
more
room
to
work,
we
don't
have
any
retaining
wall.
We've
just
Blended
the
grade
on
the
back
into
the
neighboring
property.
I'll
show
you
that
in
a
second
for
the
sake
of
this
loading
drive,
if
a
moving
van
was
ever
in
there,
we
just
wanted
a
little
bit
more
room.
So
we
did
shift
the
the
bike,
storage
and
the
the
trash
enclosure
four
feet,
so
that
was
pretty
pretty
minor
and
then
the
the
north
setback
is
8.4
feet
based
on
fire
code.
G
D
G
To
shift
the
whole
building
down
from
1.6
feet,
if
we
can
get
to
just
over
10
feet,
the
fire
rating
is
only
from
one
side
of
the
wall,
so
another
pretty
minor
change,
but
I'll
bring
that
to
the
board
meeting
this
month
and
let's
see
what
else
we
did
a
walk
through
yesterday
with
significant
elements
and
reuse
and
they're
going
to
salvage
as
much
as
they
can
from
the
project
from
the
two
existing
buildings
and
then
with
the
shift
there's
more
room
on
the
back.
G
Let
me
so
this
is
where
we
were
at
previously
with
the
back
and
the
way
it's
shifted,
I've
added
some
more
boxwoods
in
the
middle.
So
that's
the
new
new
back
design
there
and
then
another
thing:
we've
added
some
railings
over
here
where
that
drop
off
was
over
30
inches.
So
those
are
right
on
the
front
walls.
G
I
think
that
might
be
it
for
updates.
Yeah.
D
Okay
reactions,
Daniel
questions,
Lisa
Nikki.
D
I
don't
have
any
reaction
either
maybe
Nikki
and
Lisa.
If
you
could
talk
us
through
just
the
timeline
for
the
next
meeting.
B
Sure
we
were
at
preliminary
and
final
Spa,
which
we
could
still
possibly
be
at,
but
I
know
you
have
to
look
at
a
lot
of
design
updates,
but
so
it's
a
potential
preliminary
and
final
update,
possibly
maybe
just
preliminary,
but
that
all
depends
on.
If
you
you
know,
if
you
can
understand
the
changes
within
the
time,
given
one
thing
that
I
would
suggest,
Jason
and
maybe
board
you
know
chime
in.
B
G
Yeah
I'll
do
I'll
I'll,
add
it
to
the
site
plan
just
to
show
you
know:
we've
shrunk
and
shifted
the
building
and
then
yeah
and
then
I
can
even
let
you
know
just
show
that
the
footprint
I'll
just
Dash
in
the
current
footprint
and
then
when
it
shifts
down
yeah,
it's
really
a
foot
and
a
half
down,
and
actually,
since
we're
so
close
to
the
setback
here,
to
help
with
the
front
patios
we
might
as
well
just
shift
right
back
on
the
rear
set
back
line.
G
I,
don't
know
if
that
you
know
we
wanted
to
keep
a
similar
Rhythm
like
118
college
is,
is
a
new
building
just
to
up
so
I.
Think
that's
pretty
close
I'll
go
check
their
file
to
see
if
they're
greater
than
10
feet,
but
I
know
the
patios
are
a
concern.
So
we.
D
F
I
think
it's
sometimes
easier
to
I
mean
I
mean
it
should
be
if
you
can
think
of
it
as
like,
a
separate
set
of
drawings,
it's
like
just
before
and
after
existing.
You
know
and
now
proposed.
Instead
I
mean
overlaying,
it
sometimes
works,
but
sometimes
it's
really
hard
to
read.
So
do
it
and
see
if
it
makes
sense.
Otherwise,
you
already
have
the
two
site
plans.
Just
put
them
on
one
page
sure,
just.
A
F
B
Q
I
had
a
question:
did
Megan
get
back
with
her
analysis,
saying
there's
no
variances
required
with
this.
The
revision,
because
I
know
that's
pretty
important.
Obviously,.
D
Okay,
so
I
think
the
well
the
the
before
and
after
comparison,
I
think
is
an
excellent
idea
to
make
it
easy
for
the
board
to
understand,
what's
changed
and
makes
it
easier
for
them
to
then
move
forward
on
this.
So
please
do
that
and
if
there's
nothing
else,
we'll
see
you
in
a
couple
weeks.
B
D
Okay,
so
I
think
now
we're
good
to
go
so
we'll
say
goodbye
for
now
and
see
in
a
couple
weeks,
and
next
up
is
thanks.
L
S
Sure
yeah
I'm
Steve
Hugo,
with
Holt,
Architects
and
I
believe
I'm
here
Julia.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
the
maybe
the
rest
of
our
team
too
yeah.
R
Sure
so
I'm
Julia
Booker
I'm
the
project,
development
and
Laura
Matos
is
also
here,
she's,
the
chief
operating
officer
for
vism,
and
we
have
Doug
with
Dev
Namek,
with
Ferraro
who's,
going
to
help
us
go
through
the
proposed
Foundation
method
for
the
project.
S
Okay
and
then
also
Adam
official,
with
with
Marathon.
S
Yeah,
no,
no
problem
so
I.
You
know
the
overview
of
what
we
wanted
to
talk
about
today
we
were,
we
were
hopeful
and
optimistic
to
get
our
secret
determination
last
month,
but
we
didn't
we.
We
were.
We've
made
some
efforts
over
the
last
few
weeks
to
try
to
be
in
touch
with
Nikki
and
Lisa
and
try
to
find
out.
S
You
know
what
loose
ends
to
tie
up
we're,
hoping
we've
gathered
everything
that
you
guys
need
I
think
we're
here
today
we
have
a
short
presentation
on
the
Deep
Foundation
Systems
I
will
update
you.
We
have
some
very
simple
updates
to
some
of
the
renderings,
including
the
fencing
on
the
north
side,
of
the
building
that
didn't
render
properly
and
I.
Think
Adam
might
have
some
very
brief
landscape
updates
and
if
Julia
and
Laura
don't
have
anything,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Doug.
R
T
Okay,
so
good
morning,
everybody
we
reviewed
this
site
and
believe
that
this,
the
foundation
proposal
that
we
have
included
in
this
package
is
the
most
cost
effective
and
fits
within
the
city
guidelines.
The
Hammer
that
we're
proposing
on
using
is
a
a
hydraulic
impact
hammer
so
in
it
has
a
the
ability
to
minimize
noise
and
vibration
by
reducing
the
energy.
T
That's
input
into
the
pile,
so
the
amount
of
energy
that
is
delivered
to
the
pile
we
want
to
be
able
to
maintain,
so
that
it's
exactly
what's
needed
to
prove
the
capacity
of
the
file
that's
required,
and
no
more
so.
We
can
reduce
that
stroke
to
probably
a
like
a
one
foot
stroke
on
the
hammer,
which
then
reduces
the
noise.
That's
traveling
through
the
neighborhood
and
the
vibration.
T
That's
transmitted
through
the
soils
in
this
condition.
The
existing
soil
conditions
at
this
site
are
very,
very
soft,
with
peat
and
weight
of
hammer
material.
So
vibration
is
very
rarely
transmitted
through
such
soils
just
because
it
it
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
move
it.
It's
like
striking
a
sponge,
the
the
harder,
the
material,
the
more
the
vibration
will
transmit
through
the
through
the
site,
the
when,
when
we're
dealing
with
vibration,
it's
measured
in
Peak
particle
velocity.
That
is
the
Threshold
at
which
we
should
have
action
and
or
the
ability
to
measure.
T
We've
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
the
ithacare
area,
with
this
soil
conditions,
with
this
Hammer
setup
and
the
energy
that
we
would
be
inducing
and
we've
and
our
recorded
Peak
particle
velocity
on
on
previous
projects
was
well
below
0.25
inches
per
second.
So.
T
Those
limits
we
would
suggest
that
in
and
in
this
submittal
package
that
we've
highlighted
neighboring
buildings
that
would
require
that
we
do
a
pre
and
post
construction
survey.
The
those
buildings
would
be
at
as
they're
noted
on
this
drawing
in
red.
We
would
go
in
ask
for
their
permission
and
and
visually
inspect
any
of
the
imperfections
in
the
buildings.
Look
for
cracks,
look
for
and
measure
them
and
and
take
a
video
camera
selection
of
those
buildings.
Then
we
would
measure
again.
T
Distance
is
is
critical
when
you're
measuring
Peak
particle
velocity,
so
as
the
pile
driving
is
progressing
through
this
through
the
site,
we
would
reposition
our
vibration
monitors
as
close
to
the
piling
Drive
pile
driving
operations
and
in
relationship
to
the
neighboring
buildings.
T
In
so
as
as
the
pile
driving
is
proceeding
across
the
site,
we
would
be
moving
the
peak
particle
velocity
monitors
as
close
to
the
existing
conditions.
As
we
can
we'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
that
we
drove
the
piles
at
the
North
part
of
this
slide
at
that
existing
building
marked
in
Orange
in
2020
and
we've
had
no
concerns,
where
recorded
incidences
of
of
exceeding
any
Peak
particle
velocity
thresholds
and
or
concerns
with
the
neighbors.
R
It
was
requested
that
we
show
some
references
to
noise
parameters,
so
we
wanted
to
call
attention
to
how
a
regular
diesel
impact
hammer
would
sound
and
then
the
relationship
with
the
hydraulic
impact
hammer.
It
was
also
requested
that
we
let
the
board
know
how
long
the
process
would
take.
So
this
would
take
approximately
three
weeks
for
this
to
be
concluded.
R
We
also
wanted
to
point
out
a
few
differences
between
the
CMC
and
the
hydraulic
impact.
Hammer
and
Doug.
Would
you
mind
explaining
a
little
bit.
T
About
this,
please
right
so
the
impact
hammer
or
the
the
installed
piles
Solution
that's
proposed
in
this
package
is
a
driven
pile
which
is
driven
from
existing
grade
at
the
bottom
of
the
pile
cap
location.
T
So
it
minimizes
excavation
limits
in
the
end
compaction
requirements
on
the
site,
the
cast
in
place,
columns,
concrete
columns
are,
are
drilled,
which
then
create
a
bunch
of
spoils
and
handling
and
trucking
for
all
that
concrete
and
the
prep
and
the
concrete
pressure
pumps
that
are
required
to
pump
the
site
full
of
concrete
at
the
top
of
those
files,
because
all
your
in
in
that
type
of
foundation,
system
you're
trying
to
improve
the
compaction
of
the
site
so
at
at
depth,
so
you're
trying
to
densify
the
whole
area
of
the
site.
T
Once
you
get
that
done,
you
then
have
to
install
most
likely
a
two
to
three
foot
compacted
Stone
geogrid
fabric
material
across
the
entire
site,
to
bridge
between
all
of
those
structures,
and
that
compaction
is
most
likely
going
to
create
more
vibration
than
would
have
been
imposed
by
the
install
installation
of
the
piles.
R
Thank
you
Doug,
though,
so
just
to
sum
up,
our
conclusion
was
that
the
hydraulic
impact
camera
would
be
the
preferred
method
method
for
this
existing
soil
conditions
and
site
due
to
the
shorter
duration,
which
would
be
half
of
the
time
of
the
CMC,
the
percent.
The
process
was
successfully
used
recently
in
a
nearby
property
and
the
ideal
process
for
the
particular
site
due
to
existing
soil
conditions,
helping
to
reduce
the
amount
of
generative
noise
and
vibration.
R
So
this
is
this
is
what
we
have
for
the
foundation
process,
so
Steve
you
can
take
up
from
now.
Please
sure.
S
So
we
have
some
minor
updates
to
the
renderings.
This
is
a
rendering
that
I
think
you
may
have
seen
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
we
generally
got
very
positive
response
to
the
first
one.
The
only
minor
update
is
the
the
columns
on
on
Buffalo
Street.
We
are
investigating
I,
can't
remember
if
it
was
Elizabeth
that
commented
on
the
the
block
wrap.
S
So
we
are
investigating
a
metal
column,
wrap
and
hopefully,
in
a
another
meeting,
would
be
prepared
to
tell
you
exactly
what
that
is
the
next
rendering
I
don't
believe
we
had
any
updates
to,
but
you
recall,
requesting
that
view
and
I
think
we
tweaked
the
the
fencing
that
was
shown
in
the
last
rendering
Julia
sorry
I'm
all
over
the
place,
but
the
last
one
we
had
previously
not
rendered
the
fences
in
between
the
neighboring
properties
prop
properly.
So
we've
updated
those
renderings
as
well.
R
So
now
we
have
some.
We
just
want
to
go
through
the
updates
that
we
were
submitted
for
the
impacts
on
the
thief
and
then
Adam
can
go
through
these
items.
Please
Adam.
A
K
Plan
to
Dot
and
Tim
log
at
the
city
engineering
office,
including,
what's
called
a
pork
chop,
raised
concrete
media
in
there
at
the
exit
to
Buffalo
Street
dot
did
come
back
with
some
changes
to
that
which
we
resubmitted
to
them
last
Friday,
giving
them
essentially
what
they
what
what
they
had
suggested
as
far
as
modification,
the
entrance
entrance
and
exit
Drive
widths
are
currently
drawn
at
10
foot
on
that
plan,
but
they
are
going
to
be
actually
12
foot
which
may
impact
our
ability
to
put
some
Landscaping
there
on
that
lower
left
hand
corner
of
the
building
facing
Buffalo.
K
We
still
be
able
to
put
some
light
Landscaping
in
there,
but
it
might
impact
how
much
the
other
there's.
No
other.
No
other
plan
changes.
As
far
as
Landscaping
goes.
There's
a
question
asked
about
bike
parking.
We
do
have
bike
racks
at
the
northeast
corner,
facing
Meadow
Street
right
there.
Thank
you
and
then
we
did
add
a
I
believe
it
was
a
nine
so
that
that
rack
has
a
capacity
for
three
bikes
and
then
we
did
add
a
nine
rack
capacity
internal
to
the
garage
back
where
the
car
turnaround
area
is.
R
D
Okay,
that's
that's
a
lot
of
information,
very
helpful
information.
Let
me
just
go
around
the
room
for
reactions
or
questions
on
Daniel
start
with
you.
O
Yeah
I
mean
I,
really
appreciate
the
explanation
about
the
hydraulic
drill,
but
my
comment
is
actually
about
bike
racks
right,
so
residential
bike
racks
make
a
lot
of
sense,
but
then
you
know,
for
your
street
level.
Retail
you
know
is:
is
there
accessible
and
near
your
bike?
O
Rack
I
I
know
that
in
the
past
we've
we've
brought
up
question
about
the
bollards
that
are
on
the
on
West,
Buffalo
and
I,
wonder
if
those
could
be
potentially
considered
for
replacement
with,
like
linear
bike
rack,
like
the
ones
that
are
I
I,
don't
know
how
to
describe
this,
but
it's
basically
just
you
know
to
tie
up
a
bike
in
a
row
there's
a
couple
of
them
throughout
throughout
the
city,
foreign,
just
a
thought.
Another
area
for
for
retail
bike,
racks.
K
I
K
Been
at
the
Buffalo
Street
intersection,
where
a
tractor
trailer
has
the
swing
quite
wide
around
that
turn
to
get
on
to
you
know:
westbound
Buffalo
Street
there
so
I
do
believe
that
those
dollars
there
are
for
a
serving
a
safety
purpose,
they're
protecting
the
building,
so
I,
don't
believe
putting
in
a
linear
bike.
Rack
would
pass
muster
with
Dot
and
really,
you
know,
accomplish
the
same
goal
here
we
could
we
could
look
at
adding
additional.
K
O
Yeah,
that's
totally
fair,
I
I,
don't
argue
with
that
logic,
and
then
you
know:
I
I
know
that
the
the
city
has
recently
reissued
the
speed
limit
right.
Would
that
include
North
Meadow?
Not
that
that
would
affect
what
you
just
said,
but.
K
I'm
not
familiar
with
what
that
changes.
I
believe
it
was
still
30
miles
an
hour
through
North
Meadow
there,
but
we
can
look
into
that
I'm,
not
sure
it
wouldn't
play
at
any
any
factor
in
in
removing
those
low
dollars.
I
would
still
recommend
that
they
still
be
there
yeah.
O
C
K
Yeah
just
to
add
on
that
we
have
originally
added.
We
had
shown
bike
racks
along
the
curb
line.
Dod
just
come
back
and
tell
us
because
I'm
out
of
the
right
of
way,
so
we
are
limited
to
what
to
where
we
can
put
those
bike.
Racks
I
think
there
is
some
a
little
bit
of
room
there.
We
could
shoehorn
another
bike,
rack
in
like
on
the
south
side
of
that
you
know
other
Meadow,
Street
Frontage
exit
door.
K
K
Oh
there
I
think
what
Daniel's
looking
at
is
is
a
bike
rack
more
focused
on
the
retail
on
the
retail
side,
fair
enough
I
mean
to
answer
your
question
yeah.
We
could
shoehorn
something
in
there,
but
I
think
to
address
Daniel's
question
I
think
it
would
have
to
be
more
on
the
on
the
retail
Furniture
side.
Sure
thank
you
is
that
fair
Daniel,
what's
up.
E
All
right,
thank
you,
I
think.
The
information
you
provided
on
the
the
hydraulic
pile
driving
system
today
makes
me
comfortable
moving
forward
with
that
part
of
the
thief.
It
seems
like
a
good
compromise
to
have
a
reduced
velocity
pile
driven
system
that
reduces
the
number
of
weeks
that
you're
driving
piles
when
it's
a
little
bit
quieter
than
typical
pile
driving,
but
still
has
some
noise.
So
for
me,
for
my
part,
I
feel
like
that
is
a
good
medium
compromise.
I
think.
E
Maybe
it's
just
about
communication
with
the
sensitive
occupants
of
the
neighboring
homes
and
just
giving
them.
You
know
heads
up
how
long
it's
going
to
be,
and
that
kind
of
thing
there's
probably
protocol
that
you
already
do
and
and
actually
I
think
the
orange
building
on
the
north
is
a
really
big
selling
point
that
you've
already
done
this
pile
driving
system
very
close
to
these.
These
houses
as
well,
and
had
no
complaints
so
I
feel
comfortable.
E
Moving
forward
with
that
stuff
and
I
think
everything
else
you
presented
seems
in
line
with
what
we
expected
I'll
just
say:
Steve
I,
think
the
rendering
of
the
north
side
is
really
compelling.
That
deciding
looks
like
a
different
color.
I
hadn't
noticed
that
before
right,
like
it's
a
cream
palette,
rather
than
the
gray
palette,
to
distinguish
between
the
two
volumes
and
I
think
that
works
really
well,
so
thank
you
guys,
we'll
see
you
that's
all
I
have
for
today.
K
Garrick
real
quick
one
more
thing:
if
I
could,
on
City
engineering
one
thing
that
wasn't
in
the
presentation
as
far
as
an
update
there,
we
did
give
them
the
basic
Swip
I
believe
on
Wednesday
afternoon,
and
we
have
resubmitted
and
responding
to
the
remaining
three
or
four
minor
comments
there.
So
Nikki
I'm
not
sure
what
you
need
from
us
as
far
as
documentation
on
that
side,
but
that
is
in
process
with
Matt
sojewski
and
the
engineering
office.
D
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
you
just
double
and
triple
check
with
with
Nikki
and
Lisa
to
make
sure
that
all
the
dots
are
all
the
eyes
are
dotted
and
T's
crossed,
and
so
on,
so
that
we
have
everything
in
place.
And
then
you
know,
unless
I
just
disagree,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
forward
in
two
weeks.
C
We
will
and
I
believe
the
only
highlighted
piece
on
Thief
was
the
staging
the
construction
staging
and
we
don't
have
a
GC
selected
yet
so
that
probably
would
need
to
be
a
condition
but
I
believe
we
insert
everything
happy
to
continue
answering
any
additional
questions.
C
F
Yes,
but
it
would
be
good
to
know-
and
it's
very
typical
to
know
at
this
point
if
you
are
contemplating
we're
going
to
propose
any
street
closures
or
taking
any
sidewalk
for
the
construct
for
the
construction
period
or
anything
like
that.
So
if
you
could
give
us
any
information
about.
D
Just
just
on
that
I
mean
I,
think
it's
taking
the
obvious,
but
this
is
this
is
a
very
congested
area,
especially
with
the
with
the
train
that
sometimes
comes
by.
So
just
you
know,
any
closures
really
need
to
be
thought
out
very
carefully.
This
is
a
an
area
I
I
know
I've
experienced
that
one
incident
can
cause
a
backup
for
for
a
long
time.
So
please
be
careful
on
that.
So
there's
nothing
else.
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on
today.
D
D
K
C
You
see
how
I
can
hide
this
sorry.
There
are
so
many
things
right
on
top
on
top
of
the
presentation,
but
I
hope
you
can
see
well
so
I
believe
for
the
breeze
well
I'm
here
with
Eric
from
swbr
and
Laura,
Matos
and
I
believe,
like
one
of
the
main
topics
that
the
board
asked
us
to
elaborate,
was
the
ifis
I'd
like
the
facade
materials
and
specifically
the
white
piece.
So
that's
one
of
the
the
main
topics
that
we
would
like
to
discuss
today.
C
M
Yeah
I
I,
don't
think
there's
any
new
information
on
this
particular
slide.
This
is
one
that
we've
seen
before
so
I'm
still
proposing
the
same
materials.
At
this
point
we
did
include
an
updated
version
of
this
image.
M
Today
we
did
have
one
area
where
the
ethos
was
coming
down
closer
to
the
ground
and
with
the
comments
previously
about
it
being
dirty
and
things
like
that,
we
did
want
to
pull
that
up,
so
that
there's
just
less
likelihood
that
there's
going
to
be
any
possibility
of
any
issues
there
so
very
minor,
but
we
just
brought
that
up
and
ended
up
continuing
the
wood
siding
in
that
area.
So
now,
there's
like
a
minimum
of
10
feet
to
the
bottom
of
the
efis
on
all
sides
of
the
building.
M
Again
I.
Don't
think,
there's
anything
new
to
note
here
we
did.
We
do
have
some
additional
more
technical
information
on
the
ethos,
I
think
Laura
on
yes,
one
of
the
later
slides
we
did
want
to
show
just
some
other
images
of
sort
of
real
life
examples
again.
This
is
a
newer
application
of
of
the
product
that
is
used
today
versus
something
that
was
done.
20
to
30
years
ago,
the
technology
is
a
lot
better
now,
but
this
is
also
very
similar
to
our
sort
of.
M
I
M
We
just
thought
this
was
a
great
example
of
what
you
could
see
there.
This
is
showcasing
the
flexibility
and
the
sizing
of
the
panels.
Some
other
materials
are
really
going
to
be
limited
to.
You
know
18
inches
tall
or
something
like
that,
whereas
we
can
really
sort
of
be
flexible
with
the
sizes
of
the
panels
in
efis
just
another
example
here
this
is
a
high
school
just
wanted
to
include.
This
again
seems
to
Showcase
that
the
product
can
be
used
in
sort
of
high
durability
traffic
areas.
M
This
is
just
some
construction
photos.
We
wanted
to
include
I,
think
we
talked
about
this
before,
and
everyone
probably
knows,
but
one
of
the
other
reasons
we
really
like
efis
is
that
it
goes
over
top
of
it
at
the
minimum
two
inches
of
continuous
insulation,
so
it's
actually
thermally
slightly
better
than
a
lot
of
the
other
materials
which
is
only
allowed
to
install
through
one
inch
of
continuous
insulation.
M
And
then
these
were
just
some
of
the
typical
details,
so
we're
the
manufacturer
that
we
are
specifying
these
are
just
some
of
their
typical
details.
So
it's
a
very
robust,
waterproofing
and
Rain
screen
system.
Rain
screen
is
probably
too
slightly
strong
of
a
word,
but
the
way
that
it
gets
installed.
It
does
create
a
drainage
plane
in
the
back
again
that
was
one
of
the
main
sort
of
Innovations
with
efis
over
the
last
decade
or
so,
but
these
are
just
showing
some
of
the
typical
reveals
that
are
possible.
M
There's
always
going
to
be
a
minimum
of
three
quarters
of
an
inch
of
continuous
insulation,
and
then
you
know
you're
really
kind
of
at
your.
You
know,
wherever
you
would
like
the
reveals
to
be
placed,
you
can
sort
of
include
those.
These
are
showing
not
necessarily
dimensions
on
the
reveals.
We
would
keep
ours
to
sort
of
a
minimum
sort
of
something
that's
more
clean
and
contemporary
and
fitting
with
this
particular
project
versus
a
exact
v-groove
like
that,
but
yeah
generally.
M
This
is
how
they
would
get
done
and
then
again
just
some
other
typical
details.
There
are
a
joint
detail
which
we
may
have
some
horizontal
joints
at
the
floor
lines
which
we
would
try
to
put
sort
of
align
with
reveals
those
get
detailed
slightly
differently,
just
for
expansion
and
contraction,
but
again
just
wanted
to
include
those
so
that
the
members
of
the
board
can
see
how
everything
gets
installed.
M
And
then
there
were
some
questions
about
the
wood,
siding
I
think
we
sent
a
physical
sample,
but
we
wanted
to
show
some
real
life
examples
that
are
recent
projects.
So
this
is
a
project
that
we
just
completed
and
just
wanted
to
include
some
images
so
that
you
can
see
the
the
election.
M
M
Yeah
does
that
wood
siding
again
on
another
project
that
we've
done
so
just
some
more
examples
of
that.
M
M
Megan
did
send
us
a
note
late
yesterday,
and
she
just
wants
us
to
confirm
that
the
city
fire
marshal
is
100,
okay
with
everything,
so
we're
going
to
do
that,
but-
and
it
doesn't
look
like
there's
going
to
be
any
variants
or
anything
needed
we're
meeting
the
letter
of
the
zoning.
We
have
three
loading
spots
at
the
three
loading
spots
at
the
rear
of
the
site
and
one
at
the
front
of
the
site.
M
So
the
zoning
I'm,
sorry,
the
loading
is
all
there
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
before
we
get
the
final
sign
off
from
Megan,
getting
the
final
sign
off
from
Jillian.
So
the
two
variances
that
we
do
have
are
the
same:
set
we've
been
tracking.
We
have
a
height
variance,
I,
guess
it's
kind
of
two
height
variances.
We
have
a
height
variance
in
feet
and
height
variance
and
stories.
M
We
technically
are
a
five-story
building
because
of
how
drastic
the
grade
drops
off
in
the
northwest
corner,
and
then
we
are,
we
have
a
height
variance
too,
virtually
the
same,
the
same
thing
as
causing
the
the
total
height,
and
then
we
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
the
40
foot
is
a
little
bit
tough,
even
without
the
grading.
M
Just
because
of
modern
Construction
Technologies
and
floor
to
floor,
Heights
being
more
like
11
foot
in
the
wood
frame
world,
and
then
we
also
are
looking
at
a
rear
yard
set
back
because
the
property
line
is
sort
of
angled
at
the
back.
It
creates
a
pinch
point
of
24
feet,
a
24
foot
setback
in
one
area,
so
we
are
seeking
a
variance
for
that
as
well.
Knowing
that
it's
2A
Forever
Wild
public,
open
space
we've
been
seen,
we
did
not
think
that
that
was
a
major
turtle.
C
And
this
is
just
to
to
reinforce,
as
I
said,
that
the
Geotech
analysis
of
the
island
was
submitted.
The
goal
of
this,
at
least
for
for
vision,
was
to
confirm
that
what
swvr
design
is
in
line
with
the
Geotech
recommendations,
so
Eric.
If
you
want
to
mention
anything
additional,
let
me
know.
M
Yep
yeah,
there's
I'll,
let
you
know
the
board.
You
certainly
read
through
this,
but
the
Highlight
is
that
there
there
is
sort
of
two
pieces
of
this
I
guess
that
would
be
worth
noting
that
we
were
going
to
look
at
modifying
the
the
package
that
we
send
early
next
week
for
the
planning
board
meeting
on
the
24th,
and
it's
that
they're
recommending
basically
some
measures
to
keep
Rock
falling
away
from
the
face
of
where
we
construct
the
foundations.
M
So
that
will
be
basically
just
like
a
netting
of
some
kind
to
hold
any
rocks
that
could
potentially
in
the
future,
fall
down
into
the
Ravine
so
relatively
minor.
M
And
then
the
second
piece
of
that
is
that
they
mentioned
that
any
of
the
fencing
and
guardrails
that
we
have
actually
out
on
the
Outlook
are
going
to
need
to,
because
there's
virtually
no
fill
dirt
out
there.
They
will
need
to
be
basically
drilled
and
socketed
into
the
Rock.
So
we
had
previously
proposed
more
of
like
a
wood,
natural
fence
and
guard
rail.
That's
probably
going
to
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
execute
under
those
conditions.
M
So
we're
looking
at
updating
that
fencing
and
guardrail
style
as
well,
given
that
we're
gonna
essentially
have
to
drill
holes
in
the
rock
for
the
vertical
balusters
of
the
fence,
flash
ramp
and
so
they're
not
going
to
be
very
much.
It's
not
going
to
be
very
dissimilar
to
what
we
proposed
previously.
But
we
had
previously
proposed,
like
a
six
inch
diameter
wood
post
for
the
balusters,
and
that's
just
probably
going
to
be
a
little
bit
too
difficult
to
attach
to
the
rack.
F
That's
great
we'll
need
to
probably
either
set
up
a
meeting
with
engineering
or
you
know,
talk.
F
The
way
we've
laid
it
out
in
the
environmental
review
actually,
so
what
is
our
action?
Well,
yeah
I
mean
we
have
to.
Yes,
we
do
because
it's
before
preliminary
correct
Nikki
isn't
that
what
it
says.
So
we
need
to
yeah.
C
Yeah,
so
what
was
we'll
make
sure
that
we
expedite
this
updates
ARX,
so
you
can
send
that
to
Lisa,
so
we
can
schedule
that
meeting
yeah
yeah.
Okay,
that's
all
that
we
have
to
present.
E
So
I'll
say
that
I'm
pretty
sold
on
the
efis
the
fact
that
you
pulled
it
up
away
from
the
ground
everywhere.
My
only
remaining
question
is
if
you've
got
any
events
or
penetrations
or
something
through
the
ephes
that
could
weep
down
the
wall.
Since
it's
white,
you
know
I
went
around
to
a
couple
buildings
which,
admittedly,
are
older
installations
of
ephus
in
Ithaca,
and
that
was
the
only
problem
that
sort
of
jumped
out
at
me,
and
maybe
it's
air
conditioning
vents
that
are
exhausting
out
that
way
or
heating
vents.
E
Something
like
that.
But
there's
from
accumulated.
You
know
dirt
from
rain
it
catches
and
then
weeps
down.
So
that's
my
only
thing
that
I
would
love
to
hear
an
answer
from
you.
If
it's
cleanable
or
if
maybe
you
don't
have
any
of
those
penetrations
that
would
be
the
best
but
otherwise
I
think
I'm
good
on
the
efis
myself,
thanks.
O
Yeah
I
think,
similarly,
on
the
ifas
you
guys
bring
sort
of
Sound
Logic
to
considering
a
new
material.
Laura
was
referencing
that
Eric
might
take
pictures
of
projects
that
have
been
around
with
the
material
in
the
region.
I
think
that's
the
biggest
hesitation.
O
There
are
materials
that
we
know
for
facades,
don't
work
well
in
our
region,
like
you
know,
stucco
per
se,
and
so
it's
totally
fair
if
the
technology
is
involved
and
we
need
to
be
considering
new
things
but
I
think
a
reference
in
a
similar
climate
would
be
great
right,
because
some
of
the
pictures
that
were
presented
were
like
architectural
record
right
like
right
after
it
was
finished.
Yes,
not
10
years
after
right,
but
totally
fair
and
I.
I.
O
Think
I
I
appreciate
the
explanation
and
and
the
details
other
than
that
looks
great.
E
Just
one
more
quick
thing:
please
do
mention
it
to
the
rest
of
the
board
when
we
see
you
next
time
that
Rufus
allows
you
to
get
two
inches
of
continuous
rigid
insulation.
That
I
didn't
know
that
and
that's
a
big
selling
point
I
think
that's
almost
trumps.
You
know
any
lasting
reservations
that
we
may
have.
F
Lulu-
and
you
did
I-
would
one
more
thing
you
did
show
those
reveal
images,
but
I
would
show
a
real
one
with
a
window
and
get
the
inset
for
the
window
as
as
deep
as
possible.
That
really
does
make
a
difference
in
how
flat
the
it
looks,
and
you
know,
certainly
the
board
has
required
that
so
get
an
actual
section
of
a
window
assembly
gotcha.
M
B
And
I
have
something
on
a
disparate
topic.
If
I
may,
for
a
design
that
I
just
remembered
looking
at
this
wonderful
Ariel
and
one
of
the
drawings
you
had
all
of
the
heat
pumps,
I
believe
or
some
kind
of
infrastructure
on
that
wall,
that's
showing
that's
facing
the
gun.
Yeah
is
that
true,
is
that
where
they
all
are
gonna
go
I.
C
Okay,
yes,
we
we
are
planning
on
placing
them
there.
There
is,
as
you
know,
the
height
requirement,
the
limitations
also
on
the
development
agreement
of
things
that
we
can
put
in
the
roof,
and
we
believe
that
the
impact
on
views
in
the
community
around
will
be
more
would
be
higher
if
we
have
the
machines
on
the
roof.
C
M
Were
not
you
know,
the
our
logic
here
was
just
that
this
is
since
we
can't
put
them
on
the
roof.
This
is
kind
of
the
best
place,
so
you
know
really
in
order
to
see
those
you
would
have
to
be.
Probably
in
a
vantage
point
like
this,
we
can
certainly
try
to
take
some
views,
but
just
you
know,
during
the
non-foliage
season
there
might
be
some
from
that
parking
lot
that
Autumn
2
has
right
there.
M
You
could
probably
stand
in
there
and
see
the
condensing
units,
but
really
from
Lake
Street
from
our
parking
lot
from
up
the
hill.
Where
really
you
know
some
of
the
houses
that
you
can
see
in
this
image?
Are
you
won't
see
those
and
then
certainly
from
like
way
down
in
the
gorge?
M
You
probably
won't
even
see
the
building,
so
we
feel
that
this
is
the
best
solution,
we'd
love
to
put
them
on
the
roof
and
hide
them
behind
parapets
and
or
screening,
but
because
of
this
site,
and
because
of
how
there's
views
Above
This
looking
down,
we
also
have
the
developer
agreement
that
I
guess
wouldn't
have
allowed
it
anyway.
This
feels
like
the
best
spot
for
them
and
just
with
the
technology.
Now
these
are
something
that
we
all
deal
with
on
every
project
and
they're
always
they're,
always
something
and
they
gotta
go
somewhere.
M
So
no.
M
D
Okay,
is
there
anything
else,
I
guess
I'll,
just
say
from
from
my
part,
I
agree
with
Emily
about
the
ifas
and
I'm.
Just
gonna
make
one
very
specific
observation
and
I'm
reluctant
to
do
this
because
I
I
love
the
Tompkins
County
Public
Library,
it's
a
great
institution,
and
it's
it's
not
my
intention
to
pick
on
the
library
but
the
just
while
we
were
talking
here.
D
I
went
in
Google
street
view
and
if
you
go
to
the
intersection
of
Cayuga
and
green
and
then
draw
the
little
figure
down
on
the
street
and
turn
the
camera
Google
camera
towards
the
Tompkins
County
Library
zoom,
in
on
the
sign
that
says
Tompkins
and
look
at
the
letter
M
and
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
M,
the
the
middle
of
the
M,
you
can
see
just
streaks
of
like
water
stains,
where
it's
just
black
lines
up
and
down
the
ifas
I.
Believe
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
like
this.
D
Just
discoloration
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
the
case
that
the
library
is
always
struggling
with
funding
you
can't
properly
wash
it
or
if
that's
a
permanent
stain,
but
I
guess
I
would
point
that
out
as
a
very
specific
example
of
the
discoloration
that
that
bothers
a
lot
of
us
and
in
fact
the
meeting
in
two
weeks.
D
If
you
can
assure
me
this
is
me
personally,
if
you
can
assure
me
that
the
side
of
this
building
is
not
going
to
look
like
the
side
of
the
library
in
in
10
years,
then
I
personally
would
be
ready
to
move
forward.
I
should
basically
share
Emily's
view.
So
if
there's
nothing
else,
I
think
we're
we're
ready
to
move
on.
D
A
few
weeks
bye-bye
bye,
so
next
up
is
asteri
Apartments.
B
Sorry
they
are
not
coming
today.
So
oh,
okay,
no
problem.
A
D
D
E
The
one
I
think
of
is
just
west
of
Argos,
so
what
it
has
worn
real
estate
in
it
that
one
has
not
aged
well,
it's
a
similar
color.
It's
like
this
light
tan.
If.
C
B
B
Yeah,
okay,
well,
I
can
go
through
this
and
if
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
as
I,
do
please
do
lots
of
minutes
to
approve
we
Sam.
Thank
you
sent
out
the
August
September
October
again,
so,
hopefully
those
are
ready
to
go
and
we
should
be
getting
November
in
the
planning
board
packet.
B
B
Possibly
a
starry
I
will
connect
with
them
again,
but
I
am
fairly
certain
they're
they're,
coming
or
because
they're
going
to
go
to
the
BCA
so
for
their
signed
package
for
potential
approval,
freeze
Apartments,
which
we
just
heard
from
potential
preliminary
site
plan
approval
and
they
received
their
figure
last
time.
They
were
in
front
of
you
and
then
the
citizen
at
602
Buffalo,
a
speaker
determination.
If
the
seats
feels
complete
to
everybody,
William
Apartments
will
have
that
design
update
since
they
did
not
receive
their
variances
and
then
potential
preliminary
and
final.
B
That
might
just
be
potential
preliminary.
It's
it's
up
to
to
you
all
how
you
feel
you
know
if
you've
had
enough
time
to
review
the
new
design
once
that
comes
out,
Alpha
Phi
Alpha
we
are
so.
There
are
a
couple
public
hearings.
There
was
a
special
permit
and
then
Alpha
Phi
Alpha
will
have
a
public
hearing,
declare
lead
agency
and
then
review
the
chief
two
and
three.
B
What
we
have
time
for
NYSEG,
Hudson
regulator,
station
public
hearing
review
the
thief
and
then
potential
speaker
determination,
because
then
sorry
Argos,
we
will
get
back
to
you
all
about
that
and
the
timeline
for
the
art
of
thin
expansion
and
then,
as
far
as
zoning
appeals,
we
do
have
three
The
Breeze,
Apartments,
309,
Lincoln,
Street,
Diner,
so
they're
also
asking
to
extend
their
hours
and
then,
but
that's
through
a
through
the
bza,
because
it's
a
youth
condition
and
not
a
special
permit
and
the
third
one.
B
E
So
I
think
I
missed
the
Williams
did
they
they
did
not
get
their
variances,
so
they
have
to
come
back
with
their
redesign
yeah
exactly
I'll
go
back
and
watch
the
Youtube
interesting
yeah.
A
B
D
I
was
just
about.
I
was
just
about
to
tell
you
that
I
won't
be
I'll,
be
at
the
meeting
in
two
weeks,
but
I
won't
be
at
the
February
meeting,
because
I'm
going
to
be
gone
the
week
of
the
20,
the
24th,
that's
from
the
school
district's
off,
but
now
I'm
just
looking
at
the
calendar,
and
it
seems
like
the
first
of
February,
is
on
a
Wednesday,
so
I
think.
If
I'm
correct
then
our
meeting
is
is
on
the
28th,
which
is
true
last
day
of
February.
Is
that
right,
yeah.
D
Okay,
so
I
I
can't
be
there
right
and
that's
that's
where
that
happened.
Okay,
excellent
so
anyway
take
that
back
and
I'm
sorry
for
I
I
mean
a
couple
appliances
delivered
why
this
is
happening.
So
sorry,
I
turned
my
camera
off
I
go
I've,
been
running
through
the
front
door
and
trying
to
Steward
that
so
apologies
to
everyone.