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A
Yes,
it
is
live
streaming.
Do
you
want
me
to
introduce?
Who
wants
to
introduce?
The
meeting?
I
should
have
asked
that.
B
It
away
oh
good
morning,
everybody!
This
is
the
November
10th
meeting
of
the
planning
and
development
project,
Review
Committee
and
it's
a
Thursday.
The
reason
why
we've
moved
it
to
Thursday
from
our
typical
Fridays
is
because
of
Veterans
Day
tomorrow,
so
we're
here
on
Thursday
morning,
and
why
don't
we
start
with
introductions
Nikki
sure.
C
C
C
B
E
Really,
since
the
last
meeting
we
haven't
haven't
changed
anything
so
I
think
we're
we're
there
on
on
the
design.
We
did
provide
some
additional
information
on
the
the
lighting,
but
that
was
just
more
technical
info
yeah.
B
But
weren't
there
weren't
there
comments
around
the
the
basement
level
spaces
and
a
few
others.
If
I'm
remembering
correctly
on
the.
E
You
know
we
I,
don't
see
a
lot
of
value
to
you,
know
a
10-foot
front
yard
and
what
we
often
find
in
college
town
is
it
sort
of
turns
into
blight
every
now
and
then
post
parties,
and
things
like
that?
So,
but
also
you
know
the
finances,
the
financial
component
of
this
project.
E
We
we
need
these
apartments
in
the
basement.
So
you
know
it's,
you
know
it's.
The
market
will
dictate
those
those
basement
apartments.
E
The
middle
Courtyard
I
should
point
out
is
three
feet
larger
just
because
of
the
intent
of
the
building
and
those
are
the
studio
apartments,
the
two
side
patios
on
the
front,
North
and
South.
Those
are
you
know
the
bedrooms
have
have
Windows
on
the
the
sides
and.
F
E
Are
much
much
shallower
patios
so,
but
it
provides
a
nice
outdoor
private
space.
I,
don't
know,
I
thought
the
rendering
really
helped
I
could
share
that.
If
that
would
be
no.
B
That's
okay,
I
I
mean
I
would
just
advise
that
you
cover
it
in
the
in
the
meeting
yeah
at
least
with
maybe
precedent
images
of
other
similar
spaces
in
Ithaca
or
other
places
or
some
design
approach.
That's
that's
new
that
addresses
the
comments,
because
I
think
we
heard
it
from
a
bunch
of
people.
I,
remember
that
and
and
people
had
concerns
about
what
those
spaces
would
feel
like
what
they
would
be
like
and
so
I
mean
I.
Think
you
need
to
kind
of
address
it
for
the
media,
yeah,
okay,.
D
I'm
curious
about
snow
removal
in
the
winter
should
we
get
a
gigantic
snowstorm?
For
instance,
how
do
you
get
what
happens
to
those
spaces
and
how
do
they
I
mean.
E
It's
a
good
question:
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
Catherine
Commons
and
238
Linden
I'd
flash
that
image
on
screen
during
the
the
last
meeting,
I'm,
not
not
sure
exactly
how
they
they
deal
with
those
with
that
that
situation.
D
But
I
mean
you
know:
if
they're
a
big
snowstorm,
you
could
get
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
yes,
we
haven't
asked
other
people
that
question
and
Catherine
comments,
obviously
wouldn't
know
the
answer
because
they
haven't
built
it
yet,
but
they
may
have
well.
They
may
have
made
certain
choices
that
would
accommodate
something
like
that,
but
I
would
think
just
in
the
sense
of
this
real
chance
that
there
could
be
snow
stacked
up
against
the
exterior
of
that
the
building
in
those
Wells
for
long
periods
of
time.
So.
E
D
E
Don't
know
if,
if
I
mean,
if
you
were
to
put
a
snow
blower
down
there,
you
could
you
could
blow
it
out
if
you
could
adjust
the
the
angle
of
the
throw
yeah.
B
Which
is
tough,
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
tough
for
other
reasons
so
send
through
one
of
them
could
help
to
show
like
the
dimension
of
a
person
or
the
view
or
the
sun
angle
like
I.
Just
think
you
need
to
explain
it
a
little
bit
more
and
I
mean
we
respect
the
need
to
get
units
down
there
for
the
economics,
part
of
it,
but
yeah
I
think
there's
some
some
concerns,
so
I'm
sure
you'll
bring
something
good
to
the
next
meeting.
D
I
just
have
a
question,
so
you
know
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
those
exterior
spaces,
but
I
mean
would
a
light
well
be
a
better
solution.
You
know,
is
it
that
you
know?
Is
it
that
those
spaces
just
don't
look
like
they
would
function
properly?
And
you
know
we
don't
want
them
because
you
know
or
that
you
know
the
skepticism
about
the
way
they
would
function
as
an
exterior
space
to
those
apartments
or
is
it
more?
The
yeah.
E
E
Yeah
I
mean
obviously
just
going
back
to
the
snow
part.
You
know
people
wouldn't
use
that
post
snowstorm
or
much
in
the
winter,
but
it
does
it's
much
it's
a
much
larger
window.
Well,
if
you
will
to
let
light
in
it
does
provide
that
amenity
space.
You
know
when
the
fall
and
spring
obviously
yeah
yeah.
E
Think
part
of
his
you
know
as
basement
apartments
just
having
a
much
larger
space
and
having
that
that
amenity
at
times
just
makes
it
a
much
nicer
apartment
than
just
a
window.
Well,
yeah.
A
A
The
thief
is
pretty
complete,
I
would
say
Mitch.
The
only
thing
that
there
were
issues
on
was
exactly
what
you
said:
the
second
Courtyards
patios,
because
we
do
include
design
review
in
the
thief.
So
there
are
questions
on
that.
So
I
do
think
Jason
having
something
for
the
the
planning
board
meeting
would
be
great
to
answer
some
of
those
questions
and
then
the
other
one
is
the
soffit
lighting.
A
There
were
concerns
about
the
lighting
on
the
building
at
night,
so
I
would
be
prepared
to
discuss
that
as
well,
but
I
think,
besides
that,
the
thief
is
pretty
complete.
Unless.
B
Anyone
has
any
questions
about
yeah
about
that
lighting.
It
wasn't
it
wasn't
that
the
the
design
of
it
per
se,
it
was
the
actual
need
for
it
and
the
purpose
of
it
and
whether
we
should
be
lighting
residential
buildings
in
zones
like
this.
So
again,
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
make
an
argument,
make
the
argument
and
back
it
up
with
some,
you
know
reasons
and
logic
and
precedence
if
you
need
to
but
I'm,
not
sure
where
folks
are
going
to
stand
on
that.
E
Yeah,
you
know
part
of
it
is
just
just
you
know:
it's
it
enlivens,
the
the
streetscape
at
night
I
mean
there
are
street
lights.
Obviously,
but
it's.
H
E
I
wash
the
building,
we
could
probably
go
to
a
much
much
more
narrow
beam,
just
to
highlight
the
the
plantings
in
the
front
and.
E
E
So,
but
you
know
little
little
night
lighting
often
makes
things
nicer.
It
also
helps
illuminate
the
the
streetscape
just
to
make
it
feel
more
more
friendly.
F
F
E
That's
what
we
were
we
were
thinking,
but
the
you
know
it's
down.
Lighting
on
the
attention
was
to
be
very
subtle,
so
we'll.
B
B
A
I
Hold
on
okay,
I
am
working
on
this
all
right,
okay,
I'm!
Here
now
you.
B
But
so
welcome
and
looks
like
at
the
board
meeting
in
a
couple
weeks
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
secret
determination
and
a
presentation
presentation
on.
What's
that,
Nikki.
G
We
do
good
morning,
yes
getting
to
you
all,
but
yes,
please
help
share
screen
here
and
let's
see
is
John
Snyder
joining
us.
G
Okay,
well
we'll
we'll
continue
here.
Well,
thanks
for
your
time
this
morning,
Mitch
solo,
today
yeah
okay,.
A
There
is
David,
there
is
an
RJM
in
the
waiting
room.
F
G
Well,
so
design
updates
very
quickly
Margot.
Do
you
want
to
touch
on
what
we've
done
relative
to
landscaping
and
the
comments
that
we
received
at
the
last
planning
board
meeting
sure.
J
You
know
obviously,
a
response
to
Mitch's
comments:
we've
added
shrubs
all
along
the
the
Meadow
Street
Frontage
they'll
be
low.
You
know
enough,
probably
around
bumper
height
and
we
focused
kind
of
the
more
ornamental
plantings
on
the
bull
nose.
J
We
retained
some
lawn
on
the
interior
side
because
we
do
have
to
accommodate
some
snow
storage,
so
hopefully
this
is
what
you
were
looking
for.
You
know
if
you
want
to
look
at
the
the
technical
planting
she
even
can
I
mean
again
trying
to
focus
mostly
on
some
shrubs.
You
know
for
maintenance
reasons
and
then
on
the
bonus
we
added
perennials.
F
G
Yeah
some
additional
enhancements
to
the
exterior
elevations
were
done
with
with
John
Snyder,
and
so
this
is
now
becoming
more
of
the
color
palette
that
Gary's
interested
in,
and
there
had
been
some
comments
made
about
compatibility
of
of
signage
and
logos
with
the
building
materials,
so
Gary
I,
guess
in
in
John's
absence.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
chair
regarding.
I
Well,
yeah,
we
just
kind
of
we
worked
on
this
to
try
to
make
it
as
appealing
as
possible
Mitch
the
one
thing
that
we
haven't
caught
up
with
here.
If
you
look
at
the
Landscaping
on
this
particular
rendition,
as
you
can
see,
we've
taken
that
from
from
property
line
to
property
line,
which
is
what
but
you're
not
seeing
that
on
this
rendition.
Yet
I'm
sure
we
can
have
that
updated
for
playing
board
meeting
yeah
yeah.
B
F
G
So
we've
got
all
four
sides
covered
We've,
also
Incorporated
in
the
renderings,
these
vacuum
Towers
vacuum
stations
in
the
back
of
the
building.
So
this
is
now
representing
a
pretty
complete
depiction
of
of
what
Gary
would
like
to
do.
G
So
those
are
the
the
design
updates.
At
this
point,
then
there
was
the
part
three
and
there's
a
number
of
highlights
that
Nikki's
left
for
me
and
I'll
be
addressing
those
tomorrow,
foreign
skipping
right
ahead
to
the
very
last
page
of
the
draft
one
highlight
relative
to
Gary's
commitment
to
allowing
South
Titus
to
be
closed
in
the
in
the
future.
If
that's
what
the
city
chooses
and
as
we
expressed
at
the
planning
board
meeting,
that
would
be
fine.
G
The
I
think
the
language
within
this
highlighted
paragraph
might
want
to
be
adjusted
or
or
amended
to
indicate
that
closing
of
South
Titus
would
be
Beyond
his
proposed
Ingress
egress.
So
if
that's
a
friendly
Amendment
we'd
like
to
see
that,
but
otherwise
you
know
committing
to
a
closure
of
South
Titus
in
the
future
is
is
acceptable
to
Gary.
To
that
Fair
statement,
Gary
yeah.
I
D
I
No
and
I
want
to
and
I
want
to
do
it
for
you
at
least
I,
just
I
don't
want
the
language.
My
concern
is:
is
that
if
it
just
says
that
the
city
can
close
Titus
Avenue,
that
kind
of
concerns
me
a
little
bit.
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
kind
of
coming
off
of
mago's
drawing
if
you
will
and
that
we
we
just
get
a
little
more
detail
into
that
statement
so
that
we're
all
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
G
B
That
all
seems
fine,
it
all
seems
good
I.
Think
in
terms
of
the
design
updates,
you
might
get
some
questions
about
the
signage
I,
don't
know
what
the
the
Zoning
for
signage
is
here
or
the
the
regulations
for
for
signs
amount
of
signs.
There
seems
to
be
a
sign
on
every
facade,
I'm,
not
sure,
if
that's
something
that
will
go
over
well
or
it
might
but
I
think
we
should
talk
about
it
and
the
landscape
for
me
looks
good
I'm
I!
B
Think
that's
what
I
was
aiming
for
Margot,
which
is
all
along
the
frontage
and
I
think
you
got
it
there.
So
that's
good
to
see.
B
Color
I
think
there
was
comments
about
the
blue
color
and
whether
that
was
a
printing
error
or
a
screen
error,
but
I
think
we
should
talk,
go
over
colors,
probably
as
well
at
the
meeting.
So
these
are
things
I
will
I
expect
to
come.
I
D
Yeah,
just
in
terms
of
the
Landscaping
Nikki
I,
don't
know
if
we've
gotten
this
deep
into
it,
we
definitely
should
be
a
plan
for
structural
soil
to
support
the
trees
and
the
shrubs.
F
I
J
Is
extensive
enough
that
we
should
be
able
to
get
decent
soil
volume,
but
you
know
I
can
do
the
calculations.
You
know
because
we're
looking
at
larger
can
canopies
yeah.
G
Relative
to
expectations
of
planning
the
word
with
with
a
submission
I'll
make
tomorrow,
is
it
possible
to
do
the
determination
that
the
November
meet.
F
A
It,
of
course,
will
depend
on
the
board
members,
but
I
think
they've
seen
at
least
the
preliminary
Draft
feed
without
the
you
know.
There
are
a
lot
of
a
couple
of
highlights
so
as
long
as
yeah
that
you
can
get
those
to
me
David
and
if
you
have
any
questions
about
them,
we
can
try
to
send
that
out
very.
B
All
right,
just
one
thing:
I'm
a
Seekers
that
I
just
remembered
is
the
Environmental
I.
Don't
remember
that
conversation
I
thought
somebody
brought
it
up
or
I
might
have
asked
it
at
the
very
beginning,
kind
of
the
environmental
impacts
and
the
relationship
to
the
creek
and
what's
happening
with
water
and
runoff
with
cars.
And
how
that's
all
worked
out
is
that
in
the
is
that
in
the
Seeker
good.
A
Question
Mitch:
it's
not
yet
I
have
asked
for
a
stormwater
narrative
because
they
also
say
they're
recycling.
The
water
I
mean
which
I
believe
you
but
it'd
be
nice
to
know.
Yeah.
F
A
You're
doing
that
and
something
that
both
the
county
and
the
engineers
brought
up
is
to
make
sure
and
I'm
sure
you're
going
to.
But
we
need
to
know
that
you're
having
a
black,
a
backflow
preventer
on
the
Storm
sewer
connection
for
the
creek
as
well.
Yes,.
G
Yeah
we
have
we'll
have
one
connection
to
the
the
storm
system
and
we'll
put
what
you
call
a
Backwater
valve
on
the
private
side
of
of
that
system,
so
that
we're
not
in
any
way
influencing
the
city's
system
out
to
Six
Mile
Creek.
So
that's
covered
in
the
in
details
that
we've
since
added
into
our
drawings.
F
B
By
way
of
explaining
how
the
stormwater
Works,
but
also
how
the
water
in
the
facility
is
recycled,
how
those
are
separated
or
combined
at
you
know,
I
think
just
a
clear
explanation
of
how
that
system
is
working
holistically
would
be.
H
I
A
Okay
in
that
line
that
what
Mitch
was
asking
it
does
say
in
the
subsurface
investigation,
I
did
notice
that
raising
the
grade
by
one
foot
but
I'm
not
sure
that
shows
anywhere.
So
that's
another
question
that
I
did
have
yeah.
G
The
floor,
elevation
relative
to
the
site
beneath
it
is,
is
up
roughly
one
foot,
and
it
is
it's
really
tied
to
the
internal
Plumbing
got.
A
G
Not
sufficient
fall
you'll
learn
with
a
narrative
that
the
recycling
of
water
is
tied
to
the
discharge
out
of
the
the
building,
and
so
the
plumbing
all
needs
to
have
a
little
extra
elevation
to
make
sure
that,
ultimately,
the
discharge
can
get
out
to
the
city
sewer
system.
D
Sorry,
one
more
comment:
I
mean
I
should
have
thought
about
this,
but
I
didn't
until
I
saw
your
drawings
with
the
vacuum
cleaners.
Now
on
the
that's,
which
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
vacancies,
but
I
just
I
want
to
say
again
that
this
faces
a
park
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
so
the
lighting,
the
sound
everything
I
would
just
be
prepared.
For
that
conversation,
you
know
to
have
all
that.
D
You
know
I,
don't
know
what
the
it's
you
know
to
have
all
that
facing
a
park
and
a
residential
neighborhood
before
we're
just
talking
about
cars
and
suddenly
I
realized,
we
really
haven't
gotten
to
noise
and
sound
so.
D
I
So
David
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
was
we
took
the
decimal
ratings.
We
can
provide
information
that
I
provided
to
you
on
that.
I
I
actually
visited
my
sites
with
a
decimal
meter
and
you
know,
had
vacuums
on
vacuums
off
and
went
certain
distances,
and
you
know,
and
I
I
did
all
of
that
thinking
that
this
may
come
up
so
that
we
can
kind
of
show
you
and
then
and
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
in
a
real
life
situation,
which
I
did
of
exactly
what's
happening,
because
the
vacuums
that
we're
putting
in
at
this
site
are
identical
to
the
ones
that
we
already
have.
A
F
B
Okay,
next
up
is
the
citizen
and
it
looks
like
we're
talking
about
a
presentation,
I
guess,
that's
design,
updates
and
then
review
of
The
Thief
Part,
three
surface
water,
land
plants
and
animals
at
the
citizen.
K
Good
morning
before
we
start
on
Nikki
there's
a
new
person
in
our
team
called
Julia.
Can
you
let
her
into
sure
there's.
L
So
I
get
so
is
that
over
to
me
it's.
L
How
how's
everyone
doing
good
we,
so
we
I
guess
we
thought
today
we
were
going
to
focus
on
the
the
the
part
three
and
I
know
Nikki.
We
we
just
got
our
narrative
back
to
you,
so
we
didn't
know
if
we
could
skim
over
that.
The
in
terms
of
design
changes.
We
just
needed
a
little
more
time
since
the
last
meeting
we're
trying
to
take
very
seriously
Mitch's
comments
and
it
it's
taking
some
time
as
we're
questioning
some
elevation
moves
and
we're
doing
some
design
investigation
on
our
side.
L
So
we're
you
know
we're
hopeful
to
get
something
ready
for
the
next
planning
board
meeting.
But
it's
it's
work
in
progress,
so
so
I
don't
think
you
know
we
have
any
new
graphics
to
show
you
today.
B
Okay,
as
you're
doing
that
I'm
just
going
to
put
that
up,
that's
out
there
right
now,
I
I
was
thinking
about
this
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
see
a
detail
of
how
the
building
meets
the
street
in
the
sidewalk
on
both
sides.
So
that
means
like
a
section
and
a
detailed
drawing
of
the
condition
of
the
space.
You
know
what
it
looks
like
with
elements
and
people
in
it.
B
You
know
and
I
I
know
you
don't
have
a
landscape
architect.
Officially,
on
this
project
and
I,
you
know:
I
had
no
disrespect
to
Adam
and
I
appreciate
the
the
efforts
and
the
planting
and
things
like
that,
but
because
those
sides
are
so
important
to
how
this
building
is
going
to
feel
on
on
Buffalo
and
Meadow,
like
I,
think
we
need
more
detail
and
More
Design
effort
on
the
in
those
spaces.
Does
that
make
sense?
B
L
I'm
I'm
glad
yeah
I'm
glad
you
said
that
Mitch,
because
we
we
absolutely
like
we're
going
to
be
picking
views
that
are
going
to
capture
that
and
I
I
I'll
admit
to
you.
My
brain
was
very
focused
on
the
architecture,
so
I
think
we'll
make
sure
that
the
renderings
capture
that-
and
you
know
just
for
at
least
narratively.
L
You
know
what
what
we're
we
are
planning
on
doing,
3D
models
that
better
represent
the
exterior
and
both
a
combination,
I,
think
of
showing
three-dimensionality
that
I
think
our
drawings
are
not
showing,
but
also
we're
working
with
vizimon.
You
know.
Is
there
something
we
do
slightly
different
at
the
corner
to
create
a
little
bit
more
of
a
sort
of
hierarchy
of
the
overall
long
facade?
L
But
some
you
know
something
more
special
happens
at
the
corner:
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
okay,
we're
TR,
you
know
we're
trying,
not
because
the
the
plan,
you
know
we're
progressing
this
project
and
we're
developing
these
apartments.
You
know
we're
trying
not
to
make
major
changes
in
the
massing,
but
I
think
we
can
create
a
three-dimensionality
of
that
facade
that
where
you
know
where
optimistic
is
gonna
satisfy
you
guys
once
we
can
show
it
to
you.
Okay,.
H
So
so,
Mitch,
just
so
I'm
understanding
correctly
here,
you're,
looking
all
not
only
for
a
3D
perspective,
as
mentioned
at
the
planning
board
meeting
to
show
massing
and
how
the
building
ties
to
the
street
level,
but
also
it's
just
a
simple
2D
cross-section
of
the
sidewalk
View
and
how
it
ties
into
the
you
know
the
the
limit
of
the
road,
the
sidewalk.
What's
going
to
happen
at
the
sidewalk
level
and
then
how
that
ties
into
the
building
phase?
Is
that
awesome.
B
H
D
D
And
it's
so
successful
and
and
it's
I
mean
I-
really
use
that
as
an
inspiration
here.
L
Lisa
Lisa,
if
you
don't
mind
just
so
like
that,
can
mean
a
lot
of
things
like
what
are
the
things
that
that
the
board
thinks
are
really
successful
about
that
project.
Are
we
talking
about
yeah
what
what
the.
D
Successful
in
many
ways,
but
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
in
this
conversation
is
what
that,
how
they
activated
the
street
and
how
they
created
some
relief
on
that
street.
That
has
so
little
room.
You
know,
I
mean
you
know
they
use
their
own
property,
but
to
do
that,
but
it
really
is
like
a
lasting
Legacy
of
improvement
on
that.
D
K
K
A
Well,
as
Steve
said
yes,
there
are.
There
are
a
lot
of
highlights
a
lot
of
holes
in
the
thief,
but
they
did.
They
did
just
submit
some
information,
such
as
a
subsurface
investigation,
which
was
important.
A
I,
definitely
had
fire
access
on
there
to
Lisa
as
something
that
they
need
to
touch
upon,
and
then
just
the
usual
we've
been
in
contact,
but
they
need.
You
know
to
give
us
the
cubic
yards
of
material
that
are
being
excavated.
We
don't
have
that
information.
A
You
have
indicated
the
trees,
but
we
need
to
know
the
size
and
the
tree
species
that
are
actually
being.
If
they're,
you
know
being
removed,
bicycle
pedestrian
amenities,
something
I
was
thinking
about.
This
is
something
the
board.
Can
you
know
tell
me
if
they
would
like,
since
it
is
one
of
these
buildings,
that's
being
that's
infilling,
which
is
fantastic,
just
some
things
to
wonder
about
or
sun
shade
on
other
buildings.
A
If
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
or
not,
and
also
with
Foundation
vibration,
monitoring
for
adjacent
buildings
and
then
I
think
something
that
Mitch
touched
upon
with
the
life
spaces.
You
know
the
street
is
also
it's
been
asked.
Several
times
to
just
see
those
residential
buildings
on
West
Buffalo,
with
this
big
building,
which
could
be
included
in
one
of
those
sections,
but
there
were
yeah.
There's
several
highlights.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
about
it.
A
B
A
A
Can
just
we
can,
we
can
concentrate
on
that
piece,
and
maybe
the
last
piece
is
too
that
they
haven't
addressed
yeah.
That
might
be
a
better
way
to
do
it.
Mitch
is
concentrate
on
what
we
have
there
and
then
what
we
had
for
the
last
agenda
and
in
the
back
and
then
the
background,
we'll
just
collect
all
the
information
that
we
can
sure.
H
And
we
did
provide
a
brief,
stormwater
narrative
as
to
how
we're
managing
runoff.
You
know
what
what's
happening
now
and
what's
going
to
happen
ultimately,
through
the
proposed
improvements.
L
Yeah
I
was
about
to
say:
don't
you
might
not
want
to
kick
us
off
yeah.
B
K
I
call
it
the
gem,
but
the
gem
at
202
Linden.
L
Yeah
and
and
I
you
know,
I
think
our
agenda
item
here
is
is
I,
think
you
know
we
we
did
design
review
last
meeting,
we
we
presented
some
mildly,
updated
elevations,
which
I
I
don't
recall
that
there
were
any
takeaways
from
that
I
saw
on
your
agenda.
You
have
maybe
preliminary
and
final
so
I
think
we
we
thought
we
just
wanted
to
talk
about.
What
else
do
we
need
for
next
meeting
and
and
would
be?
You
know
we
I
I
assume
the
plan
was
to
vote
next
meeting.
B
F
B
A
There
were
questions
about
so
I.
Have
this
on
I
did
draft
some
conditions,
which
are
the
typical
conditions
that
I
don't
think
you'd
be
too
alarmed
about,
but
one
of
them
that
I
put
on
there
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
condition
because
you
could
address.
It
was
Mitch.
You
actually
brought
up,
and
it
was
a
good
point
that
about
the
flat
facade
and
if
there's
anything,
any.
B
B
L
Yeah
yeah,
my
recollection
of
that
conversation,
was
possibly
the
that
was
some
frustration
with
the
zoning
and
that
it
would
have
been
such
a
to
go
for
a
variance
for
a
six
inch
overhang.
That
was
that
was
what
I
remembered
I
apologize,
we're
you
know
we're
right
on
the
property
line.
L
I
think
you
know
we
were
feeling
that
the
you
know
the
shadow
line
between
the
two
siding
materials
and
the
you
know
the
the
windows
being
recessed
a
few
more
inches
into
the
opening,
and
also
you
know
the
scale
the
scale
of
this
building
is.
You
know
it's
not
a
300
foot,
long
facade
on
on
an
urban
street,
and
you
know
we
kind
of
felt
like
the
color
changes
that
big
pocket
where
the
entry
is
is
going
to
create
a
huge
Shadow
line
and
a
lot
of
three-dimensionality.
L
You
know
that
that
little
tiny
facade
is
broken
into
like
three
major
pieces
with
its
own
canopy.
You
know
we.
We
were
kind
of
feeling
like
with
this
modest
building
and
trying
to
build
it
in
a
really
cost,
effective
way
that
that
that
you
know
we
had
found
a
good
balance.
B
A
B
All
right
so
I
guess
we'll
see
in
a
couple
weeks
and
hopefully
all
goes
well
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
I
wouldn't
but
we'll
have
a
conversation
with
the
larger
board
at
that
time.
L
K
Okay,
so
I
don't
have
the
materials
with
me,
but
what
I
can
say
is
we've
been
working
with
Lisa
and
the
CD
on
the
development
agreement
I
feel
like
we
believe
I
believe
we
finally
got
common
agreement
on
that
the
agreement
will
go
to
the
planning
committee,
yes,
planning
committee
board
to
be
voted.
K
We
yeah
I
feel
like
the
design
itself,
didn't
change.
Since
our
last
submission
the
there
were
some
Evolutions
inside
more
mostly
inside
of
the
project.
Considering
they
are
not
here
and
I.
Don't
have
the
materials
I
would
say.
K
B
A
I
think
Lord
some
of
the
concerns
with
FIFA.
Just
some
of
the
you
know,
things
that
haven't
been
closed,
all
the
way
cubic
yards
of
materials
I
think
we
finally
got
that
it
was
confusing
because
there
you
know,
there's
a.
A
Materials
going
for
different
things,
but
I
think
we
have
that
you
guys
provided
us
a
narrative.
Thank
you,
but
that's
a
lot
of
trucks,
so
I
think.
If
you
could
answer
I
know
you
have
a
route,
but
according
to
calculations,
if
it's
15
cubic
yards
per
truck,
it's
like
over
700
trucks.
So
that's
massive.
And
how
is
that?
So?
We
need
to
know
how
that's
happening.
A
Very
important
for
construction,
the
other
thing
I
think,
is
definitely
that
Public
Access,
it's
really
conceptual
still
right
now.
You
know
we
need
to
see
details
on
the
bridge.
We
need
to
just
know
more
details
on
the
plan
safety
precautions
at
the
Overlook
Etc
and
then
something
something
you
guys
were
going
to
give
us
to
is
the
lighting
plan
and
the
narrative
you
had
mentioned
and
I
say
you
as
your
project
team,
that
it
will
not.
A
The
big
ones,
if
anyone
else
has
anything,
though
those
are
the
ones
that
I
can
think
of.
Okay,.
F
K
And
we
were
thinking
for
the
Overlook,
some
sort
of
Monument
with
information
about
it
like
like
what
we
typically
see
in
in
some
overlooks.
If
there
is
anything
in
specific
that
the
city
want
us
to
do
on
that
area
as
well,
please
let
us
know
I
know
there.
There's
there
was
a
lot
discussed
on
the
actual
development
agreement.
F
K
I
think
we'll
have
like
a
bench
things
like
that
that
are
like
expected,
and
we
can
definitely
provide
more
information
and
more
detail
on
that
for
sure.
Yeah.
A
K
A
B
F
B
Think
more
developed
design
drawings,
whether
it's
at
this
next
meeting
or
the
one
after
is
really
important
to
understand
that
really
important
space
for
the
city
I
mean
that's,
that's
huge
to
put
something
there
overlooking
the
The
Gorge
and
the
bridge
yeah.
That's
that's
a
real
design
project
there
and.
F
B
We
need
a
lot
of
information,
but
the
one
I
wanted
to
come
back
to
for
Seekers.
Just
try
to
take
one
more
shot
at
this
I.
Don't
know
if
we've
ever
seen
the
diagram
that
we've
been
asking
for
in
terms
of
the
monitoring
strategy
and
I
know.
We've
talked
about
this
we've
gone
round
and
round
about
how
it's
very
difficult
to
represent
something
like
that.
K
A
H
K
I
do
believe:
I
got
some
sort
of
map.
I
will
provide
that
to
you
and
I
will
double
check
with
CNS
if
they
can
be
in
the
meeting
as
well.
To
answer
more
of
those
questions
again,.
B
Yeah,
that's
good
I
mean
because
I
think,
when
we're
talking
about
secret
determination
for
this
project,
I'm
I'm
very
cognizant
of
neighborhood
concerns
about
dust
and
about
digging
out
soil
like
this,
and
to
the
extent
that
you
can
speak
to
those
concerns
and
make
sure
it's
clear
what
the
monitoring
process
is.
What
the
trucks
like
Nikki
you
were
just
talking
about
and
and
how
it's
going
to
be
done
is,
is
better
the
more
clear
that
information
right,
because
there's
so
much
information.
H
K
K
I'm,
a
very
graphic
person,
maybe
as
an
architect,
maybe
a
presentation
instead
of
just
memo
narrative
do,
you
think,
might
be
better
like
have
a
few
slides
in
the
next
meeting
with
the
map
and
like
some
like
the
image
of
the
actual
equipment,
a
bit
more
digested.
Do
you
think
that
would
be
helpful.
B
It
could
be
I
mean,
you
know,
I
think
it
could
raise
other
questions
potentially.
B
B
Put
something
together
that
it's
I
don't
know:
Nikki
and
Lisa.
What
do
you
think
about
that?.
A
I
think
I
think
it's
whatever
yeah,
it's
gonna
make
the
you
on
the
board
feel
comfortable
with
it
too,
and
that
they're
answering
the
neighbor
questions
like
you
said
and
I
would
strongly
suggest.
Looking
at
the
thief
again,
I
know
it's
long
in
itself,
but
tried
to
break
that
down
some.
You
know
trying
to
break
down
the
processes
and
all
the
documents
that
were
in
the
D
from
the
dec,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
documents.
So
there
there
is
a
summary
for
the
monitoring.
A
I,
don't
know
if
it
answers
all
those
questions,
because
they
were
before
the
applicant
had
said
the
and
CNS
that
they
can't
necessarily
provide
a
map
because
it
changes
every
day
as
to
when
the
wins
where
the
win
comes.
So
that's
part
of
the
answer
and
whether
you
know
that
answer
fulfills
the
answers,
your
questions
is
it's
going
to
be
the
the
key.
D
I
I
do
think
I
and
I,
but
I
do
think
a
graphic
helping
to
describe
that
is
because
I
think
you
know
what
was
asked
for
was
like.
We
need
to
see
a
map
with
where
the
monitoring
units
are
going
to
be
and
how
tall
they're
going
to
be
okay,
and
so
you
can't
provide
that
because
it's
going
to
change,
but
you
can
provide
a
graphic
of,
for
instance,
the
area
that
the
monitoring
units
are
going
to
be
and
where
they
might
be
and
how
to
I
mean
you
could
provide
more
information.
F
D
L
D
When
people
don't
get
the
information
they
ask
for,
even
if
there's
no
male
intent,
they
think
well,
why
didn't
you
know?
Is
it
six
inches
tall?
Is
it
you
know
I'm,
like
you
know,
I
just
would,
even
if
the
height
of
it
isn't
scientifically
relevant,
you
know.
Maybe
it
isn't.
Maybe
it
is
I.
Don't
know
people
did
ask
for
that.
So.
H
A
Then
maybe
it's
in
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
good
thing
or
not,
but
maybe
it's
an
example
like
what's
the
prevailing
wind.
K
Us
I
was
thinking
something
like
a
day
in
the
life
of
this
project.
How
like
they
come
in,
they
start
the
day
they
set
the
the
the
monitoring
here
like
that's
how
it
typically
works
if
the
wind
flows
this
way,
that's
where
they're
going
to
put
kind
of
like
create
a
scenario
of
like
how
it's
a
typical
day,
I.
F
D
A
A
Work
on
that,
because
it's
just
wrapping,
you
know
our
heads
around
it
like
what
and
it's
making
certain
that
all
the
precautions
are.
It's.
D
And
the
you
know,
the
goal
is
really
to
get
to
have
understanding
and
we
don't
have
it
for
whatever
reason.
Yet
so
you
know
that.
K
Yeah
and
I
believe,
at
least
for
my
recollection
from
the
past
meetings,
the
architecture
itself.
There
were
not
many
concerns
or
issues,
it's
mostly
the
the.
How
is
the
the
cleanup
happening?
The
bridge
The
Overlook,
the
landscaping
lights,
things
like
that,
so
make
sure
that
all
of
that
is
this
is
answered
and
any
updates
on
the
architecture
is
also
shared
with
the
board.
J
B
K
B
B
All
right,
this
is
Keuka
Park,
formerly
Carpenter,
Circle
project,
and
the
action
here
is
approval
of
final
approval
conditions.
Hey
Jacob
good
morning.
C
Do
you
have
Dustin
Welch
or
Tim
Crilley
in
the
waiting
room?
We.
C
C
So
we
were
before
the
board
last
month
and
we
had
made
some
changes
to
the
approved
final
site
plans
in
the
hopes
of
Meeting
those
two
conditions
that
were
added
a
year
ago
at
our
at
our
last
update
those
were
related
to
the
large
blank
facades
and
the
plaza
entrances
and
Mitch
I'm
glad
you're
here
for
this
PRC,
because
I
know
you've
really
sort
of
had
some
of
the
stronger
criticisms
from
the
board
so
glad
we
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
through
this
and
we're
hoping
that
at
this
month's
meeting
we
can
sort
of
put
this
to
bed
yeah
and
get
this
project
completed.
C
C
So
there
were
sort
of
three
main
pieces
to
what
we
heard
at
the
last
meeting.
I
think
that
was
that
basically,
additional
landscaping
and
Furnishings
that
were
added
at
the
entrance
on
the
Southeast
side,
which
is
the
more
public
face
inside,
didn't
didn't
sufficiently
mitigate
that
large
blank
facade
concern
also
because
we
didn't
show
any
renderings
of
the
other
entrants
on
the
northwest
side.
C
The
board
didn't
feel
that
they
were
able
to
to
adequately
judge
whether
that
was
still
a
concern.
So
and
then
the
third
concern
was
that
the
proposed
side
proposed
sidewalk
layouts
didn't
provide
enough
circulation
for
pedestrians,
so
we've
We've
made
some
proposed
changes
and
I'd
love
to
run
them
by
you
here
just
to
get
your
initial
feedback
to
see
whether
or
not
these
sort
of
rise
to
the
level
yeah
of
meeting
these
conditions
that.
B
Sounds
good,
I
think
I
would
add
one
thing
that
the
additional
landscape
was
was
appreciated,
was
very
much
appreciated,
I
mean
we.
We
see
the
intent
there,
but
I
think
you've
framed
the
other
pieces
of
it
correctly.
So,
okay.
C
So
this
I
took
this
picture
this
morning
on
my
way
in
so,
as
you
can
see,
the
the
building
itself
is
building
exterior
shell
is
is
very
close
to
complete,
and
you
know
the
access
road,
the
the
Cayuga
Park
Lane
Road
here
is-
is
paved
and
the
curbs
are
in
so
a
lot
of
that
is
sort
of
driving
some
of
this
conversation.
C
So
to
answer
the
first
concern,
which
was
this
this
large
blank
facade,
you
know
some
of
the
recommendations
we
heard
from
the
board
were
that
you
know:
could
there
be
some
type
of
signage
or
lighting
looked
at
as
being
incorporated
into
this
facade
to
help
you
know
mitigate
how
how
blank
it
is
so
I'll
show
a
rendering
here
that
shows
some
of
our
preliminary
proposed
changes.
C
You
can
see
we're
proposing
putting
building
signage
on
this
space
to
help
activate
this
Assad
we're
also
showing
overhead
string
lighting
again.
Those
are
both
sort
of
direct
or
indirect
recommendations
from
the
board.
The
last
meeting
We've
also
added
a
planter
against
this
wall,
with
some
lattice
and
vines
that
might
grow
on
that.
C
To
help
again,
just
just
put
something
up
against
this
wall,
we're
also
proposing
you
know
before
we
were
showing
all
of
the
site
Furnishings
as
being
kind
of
black
uniformly,
and
so
we
thought
well,
you
know
to
warm
and
draw
the
eye
down
if
we
went
with
some
brighter
warmer
color
for
the
Furnishings
that
might
help
as
well
one
more
image
of
that
again.
C
This
is
a
perspective
you
saw
before,
and
you
can
see
now
that
it's
you
know
changed
changed
with
these
additional
elements
that
we've
added
so
and
then
you
had
not
seen
this
next
rendering.
This
is
the
other
side
of
the
building,
and
you
can
see
I
wanted
to
highlight
in
the
in
the
foreground
here
this
Arborvitae
hedge,
this.
C
This
was
largely
intended
to
screen
the
railroad
tracks
from
residences
residents
in
the
building,
but
it
also
will
screen
this
side
of
the
building
from
any
adjacent
Parcels,
which
is
the
railroad
tracks
and
then
I
believe
it's
the
Third
Street
Extension
is
on
the
other
side
of
that.
So
any
future.
C
C
One
thing
we
are
potentially
proposing
is
previously.
We
had
the
the
ramp
access
contiguous
along
this
entire
Plaza
side
so
that
there
was
open
access
from
the
entire
parking
area
by
by
taking
out
this
section
in
front
of
these
two
parking
spaces
and
making
that
a
planting
area,
we
can
get
another
Tree
in
there,
so
we're
thinking
that
may
help
to
kind
of
bring
down
the
scale
of
this
space
as
well.
C
So
then
that's
that's
kind
of
those
first,
two
concerns
relating
to
the
facades.
The
third
concern
was
the
circulation,
but
real,
quick
I'll
show
you
so
this.
This
is
the
change
that
I
just
showed
right.
Taking
this
section
out,
I
mean
that's
a
plant
bed,
two
additional
benches
and
then,
on
the
other
side,
adding
those
string
lights.
C
So
that's
just
a
more
high
level
perspective.
Looking
at
that
rear
entrance,
I
say
rear,
but
it's
it's
really
it's.
You
know
not
necessarily
the
rear.
It's
just
not
the
more
public
facing
side,
foreign.
C
In
that
vein,
so
talking
about
circulation,
we
wanted
to
point
out
something
that
we
we
sort
of
didn't
mention
at
the
last
meeting,
which
is
that
this
entrance
on
the
I
suppose
that's
the
more
or
less
the
south
facing
side
of
the
building
is
actually
a
it's
an
entrance
and
an
exit.
So
you
know
we
were
talking
about
well,
how
do
people
exiting
this
door
get
to
the
rest
of
the
development
site?
C
Well,
more
than
likely
they
would
exit
this
door
because
it's
much
closer
of
a
route
from
the
interior
of
the
building.
C
C
So
if
you
look
at
this,
a
sidewalk
here
actually
would
not
make
any
any
route
faster
to
go
to
the
South
you're
still
going
to
have
to
cross
the
crosswalk
at
this
point
as
opposed
to
Crossing
it
at
this
point
and
you're
still
going
to
have
to
walk
along
one
side
or
the
other
of
people,
Park
Lane,
so
yeah,
it
would
be,
it
would
not
actually
shorten
the
distance
for
anyone
going
in
that
direction.
Nor
would
it
remove
the
number
of
crossings
that
they
would
have
to
make
right,
but
so
forth.
C
We
also
wanted
to
show
you
know
overall,
the
site
circulation,
it's
pretty
extensive
throughout
the
site,
and
you
know
we
see
the
most
major
traffic
being
people
coming
from.
You
know
the
Fall
Creek
Side
neighborhood,
along
Third,
Street
up
towards
the
farmer's
market,
there's.
C
Obviously,
that's
a
major
pedestrian
route
and
the
new
route
that
we
are
providing
is
a
contiguous
sidewalk
that
goes
on
the
sort
of
north
to
south
we're
out
here
along
cue,
the
Park
Lane,
and
that
is
a
contiguous
route
with
sidewalks
crosswalks
and
it's
Ada
accessible,
and
that
really
will
improve
the
connectivity
on
this
side.
We're
also
providing
you
know
for
the
the
DOT
requirements,
additional
sidewalks
in
the
dot
right
away.
That
also
provides
a
north-set
route
along
13..
So
there's
there's
pretty
substantial
additional
pedestrian
connectivity.
F
C
One
of
the
reasons
we
did
not
provide
this,
this
segment
of
contiguous
sidewalk
on
the
west
side
of
the
Park
Lane,
are
the
existing
utilities.
One
of
the
most
the
biggest
issue
is
really
this.
This
one
guy
wired
that
connects
to
this
pole
for
these
nice
egg,
high
voltage
lines.
H
C
We
we
really
can't
move
it
and
you'll
see
here
that
it's
located
right
here
and
you
know
we
have
some
sidewalk
segment
here
for
these
parking
spaces
to
allow
people
to
to
get
out
of
their
cars
and
walk
to
the
at
Community
Gardens.
But
this
existing
guy
wire
really
requires
that
that
sidewalk
segment
end
at
that
location.
We
we
just
can't
get
around
it
and
you'll
see
the
other
limiting
factor
here.
C
Is
the
property
corner,
that's
what
the
BMW
Supply
building
parcel,
and
so
it
you
can
see
how
the
road
alignment
just
kind
of
threads,
the
needle
between
those
two
constraints,
and
it
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
room
on
the
sides
or
additional
sidewalk
to
sit
in
that
profile.
Yeah.
C
Okay,
the
other
limiting
factor
here,
as
mentioned
I,
think
we
mentioned
in
the
previous
meeting
that
there
was
about
a
one
to
one
and
a
half
foot
difference
between
the
plaza
level
and
the
parking
it's
actually
closer
to
two
to
two
and
a
half
feet.
So
it's
even
even
more
of
a
significant
grade
change
here,
and
so
you
know
it
had
been
mentioned
potentially
well.
C
Could
we
look
at
doing
a
crossing
right
here,
mid-block
Crossing,
in
addition
to
the
two
Crossings
on
the
sides,
but
that
would
require
a
staircase
be
constructed,
and
so
it
wouldn't
be
an
ADA
accessible
route.
C
C
So
that's
that's
sort
of
the
the
gist
of
our
presentation
here,
yeah,
you
know:
we've
we've
we've
tried
to
accommodate
as
best
we
can
changes
to
the
two
Plaza
areas
to
meet
the
the
concern
about
those
blank
facades
and
we're
really
hoping
that
this
illustrates
that
you
know:
we've
really
done
the
best
we
can
with
the
site
circulation
and
we
just
don't
see
a
good
solution
to
accommodate
anything
more
than
what
we've
got
for
sidewalks.
B
Okay,
yeah,
you
know
thanks
for
the
thanks
for
the
updates.
I
think
this
is
helpful
information.
You
know
it.
It
definitely
expands
on
kind
of
the
logic
behind
circulation
and
why
I
did
the
things
you
did.
It's
helpful,
I
can't
say
you
know
what
folks
on
the
board
will
think.
I
personally
think
it's
moving
in
a
better
Direction
and
I
understand
the
constraints
a
little
bit
better
in
the
context
of
circulation.
It's
very
helpful.
B
You
know,
comments
from
my
side
would
be
I.
Think
the
the
entry
Plaza
is
definitely
moving
in
a
in
a
better
Direction.
You
know
it
feels
more
like
what
you
would
see
in
a
market
rate
building
right,
the
lighting,
the
sign,
the
the
colored
Furniture
right,
it's
getting.
It's
moving
the
right
direction.
I
I
was
wondering
about
the
bike,
rack
location
and
wondering
if
maybe
just
wondering
how
that
would
function.
If
there's
like
a
couple
of
bikes
coming
into
that
space,
people
are
exiting
the
building
at
the
same
time.
B
Is
there
a
conflict
there
and
whether
you
could
extend
the
planter
against
the
wall?
If
you
move
some
of
those
bike
racks
to
a
different
location
but
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
that's
important,
but
I
just
thought,
I'd
mention
it
something
to
study.
Also
if,
if
you're
seeing
the
South
entrance
as
as
a
place
where
you
connect
to
the
mixed-use
area
farther
south,
like
does
there
need
to
be
bike
racks
on
that
side
of
the
building
or
even
bike
racks
on
the
back
side
of
the
building.
B
C
We
we
did
not
put
bike
racks
on
the
parking
lot
side
and
again,
that
is
that's
sort
of
yeah,
because
there's
it's
a
little
bit
right,
tight
with
circulation
here,
yeah,
okay
of
where
people
are
walking
right.
So.
F
B
It's
just
a
it's
just
a
comment:
I
I,
like
the
sign
in
the
front
I,
do
think
it
adds
some
interest.
I
assume
it
would
be
lit.
You
know
of
Halo
lighting
from
the
back
turned
off
at
night,
I
I,
don't
know
you
should
probably
expect
to
explain
that
and
then
I
think
in
the
back.
B
I
think
it
would
help
to
if
you
had
some
lighting
there
along
the
wall
in
the
back
like
slide
seven
or
eight
yeah
in
this
part
where
the
where
the
plants
are,
you
know,
if
there
was
some
down
lighting
there
to
to
brighten
that
space.
You
know
you
got
the
string
lighting
in
the
front,
but
also
some
washing
of
that
wall
might
be
a
nice
touch
as
well,
but
I
appreciate
the
addition
of
the
planter.
I
mean
I.
I
think
this
is
moving
in
a
good
direction.
B
So
we'll
see
what
other
folks
have
to
say
about
that
yeah.
F
B
A
Thanks
Mitch
thanks
Jacob.
That
was
a
really
thorough
presentation,
thanks
for
walking
us
through
that
yeah
I
agree
with
Mitch.
Thank
you
for
all
those
additions.
The
planting
and
the
cellos
are
great
on
both
sides.
I
love
that
you
put
a
tree
back
there
in
the
back.
That
definitely
makes
it
feel
a
little
better
if
you're
sitting
out
there
on
the
benches
and
the
string
lights
in
the
front.
Look
great
I
know
there's
no
front
back,
but
on.
A
Side,
the
string
lights,
yep
yep
that
just
Springs
down
the
ceiling
I
like
that
a
lot
on
the
scale,
and
you
can
pick
whatever
color
you
want
for
sure
for
furniture
I
would
just
I'm
very
the
red
picnic
table
is
over
by
Guthrie
are
very
red
and
they
look
a
little
bit
like
McDonald's
to
me.
So
just
cautioning.
F
A
The
bright
red-
and
this
looks
nice
because
there's
lots
of
green,
but
you
know
that's
up
to
you.
A
My
only
disappointment
and
I
and
I
see
that
you
do
have
constraints,
but
is
that
it's
still
not
the
circulation
is
still
not
great
for
the
site
and
the
sidewalk
again
on
the
western
side
would
just
be
it
would
just
make
you
know
it
would
just
make
it
seem
so
much
more
connected
and
then
the
other
thing
that
people
mentioned
and
I
know
you're
saying
it's
almost
redundant
to
have
a
sidewalk
there
on
the
Eastern
side
of
the
building.
A
But
I
don't
think
it
is,
and
there
had
been
people
wondering
if
you
can
get
actually
rid
of
the
parallel
parking
there
and
have
a
sidewalk
there
yeah.
It.
F
C
C
So
that
was
actually
a
an
error
on
my
part
at
the
last
meeting,
saying
that
these
parking
spaces
were
serving
or
were
reserved
for
the
use
of
tenants
of
the
building
they're,
actually
not
on
the
property.
Subdivision
line
is
actually
right
along
this,
the
sort
of
blue
red
line
on
the
back
side
of
the
curb.
C
C
So
they
are
actually
going
to
be
available
to
the
public
as
as
public
parking
spaces
which
will
serve
both
the
Community,
Gardens
and
I
would
imagine
overflow
from
the
Farmers
Market
on
Market
Days.
C
You
know
that
said.
They've
also
already
been
been
built
and
paved
per
the
approved
plans
for
that
portion
of
the
the
project
yeah.
So,
okay.
A
C
Removal
of
that
is
is
really
not
something
that
we
are
exploring,
but
you
know
the
the
height
difference
between
the
building
elevation
and
that
yeah
I
sure
yeah
it
it
could
be
done.
It
would
require
the
removal
of
a
lot
of
work.
That's
already
been
done.
C
A
lot
of
time
and
effort-
and
it
really
would
be
you
know
it
really
will
not
shorten
the
distance
between
any
one
point
to
any
other
point
on
the
site.
C
F
B
There's
lighting
there
or
some
sign-
or
you
know
like,
let's
make
something
of
that.
That
explains
what
you're
talking
about,
because
that
you
know
goes
out
to
The
Playground.
It
connects
right
to
that
path
that
goes
to
the
southern
mixed-use
district
area,
like
I,
think
that's
important
to
know
so.
Give.
A
B
Us
a
view
of
what
that
door
looks
like
with
the
bikes
with
some
lighting.
You
know
like
play
it
up
a
little
bit
because
I
think
it
helps
with
your
argument
about
not
being
able
to
put
in
the
connection
to
the
East
I
want
to
call
it
the
front,
but
but
and
then
I
get
it
I
don't
want
to
go
backwards
here,
I,
don't
yeah
I,
don't
think
the
board
wants
to
go
backwards
here.
It's
a
good
project,
good.
B
Housing,
good
Workforce
housing
and
you
want
to
make
it
successful
and-
and
we
understand
the
constraints,
but
you
know
try
to
build
the
other
pieces
to
get
us
there.
C
C
You
know
and
this
this
is
more
direct
access
for
residents
to
the
playground
and
of
course
it
provides
so
I
I.
Don't
think
there
was
the
idea
of
advertising
this
or
putting
signage
here,
drawing
people
to
this
as
a
as
a
as
a
place.
F
B
And
a
light,
and
just
like,
encourage
residents
to
use
that,
because
that
I
mean
I
think
that's
the
idea
of
the
the
path
on
the
East
connecting
to
that
main
public
door
is
like
getting
folks
who
live
in
this
building,
clear
access
to
the
shopping,
district
or
other
stuff
right.
So
it's
like
right,
okay
and
then
make
I'm
just
saying
make
something
of
that
door
for
them
not
for
the
public,
but.
B
Living
in
the
building
like
oh,
this
is
a
thing,
and
it's
not
just
like
this
back.
You
know
how
you
get
like
those
back
doors
at
hotels
where
it's
like
geez
I,
don't
know
if
I
should
be
here
like
like,
say,
resident
access,
make
a
nice
light.
The
bike
racks
are
there,
you've
already
put
the
bike
racks,
a
nice
connection
to
the
playground
so
just
play
it
up.
I
mean
right.
F
C
B
Because
that
I
think
strengthens
your
argument
and
how
and
supports
it
so
all
right,
cool
the
interesting
conversation
but
I
think
we're
yeah
personally
I
think
we're
moving
in
a
good
direction
and
that's
what
I'll
say
at
the
meeting-
and
you
know
want
to
keep
this
moving
forward
for
you
guys
so
projects
looking
good
in
the
ground
coming
up
almost
there.
So
we
want
to
support
that
all.
A
A
Pretty
much
what
we
just
looked
at,
we
could
just
look
at
it
really
quickly.
We'll
do
a
gender
review.
We'll
have
some
minutes
to
approve
any
public
comments.
Cayuga
Park
we'll
go
first,
okay,
that
we
just
saw
yeah
Breeze
Apartments.
How.
F
B
F
A
A
Well
you'll
have
the
resolution
by
then
too
citizen
which
will
review
the
thief
again
in
the
last
sections:
squeaky
clean
potential,
Seeker
determination,
the
William
Apartments
will
look
at
the
The
Thief
Part,
3
and
Jason
will
give
us
those
updates,
and
then
we
do
have
a
few
zoning
appeals
area,
variances
at
604,
East,
Buffalo
Crescent
place
and
then
there's
a
sign
Vance
for
green
star.
I
am
not
certain.
A
Sam,
you
might
be
able
to
answer
this.
A
little
better.
I
know
that
I
know
there's
it's
signs
for
sure.
Yeah.
A
A
B
That's
pretty
sweet
yeah
850.
the
pre-thanksgiving.
Let's
finish
early
board
meeting
okay
for
going
back
to
whatever
it's
called
The
Breeze
right.