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A
I
will
call
this
meeting
of
the
planning
and
development
board
for
the
city
of
introduction
order.
We'll
start
with
introductions.
Emily
could
I
start
with
you.
C
C
A
E
It
looks
like
Daniel
Correa
late
members
of
working
awesome.
C
A
Apologize
for
skipping,
you
saying
you're
at
a
different
table
now
we'll
do
a
gender
review.
C
Hey
for
gender
review,
we
don't
have
any
minutes
to
approve,
so
you'll
have
plenty
next
time,
we'll.
C
You
can
interview
them.
We
have
one
added
zoning
appeal,
which
is
bza
3245,
the
ATT
batch,
and
if
you
brought
your
computers,
you
can
look
at
that
and.
G
C
A
Right
we'll
skip
the
approval
of
minutes
and
go
straight
to
public
comment.
Is
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
in
Portland
Oregon.
B
A
F
Yes,
so
we
already
have
Dustin
Welch
if
Trevor
hot
is
on
the
waiting
list.
If
you
could
let
him
in
and
okay
and
if
Tim
Crilley
is
there
I
think
we
can
get
started
without
them,
but
just
wanted
to
see
if
they
were
available.
A
Great
we'll
let
them
in
as
they
arrive,
and
if
you
would
please
introduce
yourself
and
take
it
away.
F
Hi,
yes,
I'm
Jacob,
Von,
mecco
I'm,
with
what
I'm,
planning
and
design
and
here
representing
the
Cayuga
Park
project,
specifically
for
the
building
a
or
the
market
view
building
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
share
my
screen
in
this
setup,
not
sure
if
I
have
the
permission
to
do
that.
C
You
just
share
it,
you
have
permission
to
share.
F
Unlike
the
typical
Zoom
meeting,
I
do
not
have
a
button
showing
share
screen
are.
F
No
I'm
on
a
laptop,
just
I
think
it's
the.
J
F
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
So
if
you
can
see
my
screen,
we
are
again
looking
at
the
Hugo
Park
development
project
and
we
are
focusing
tonight
on
the
market
view,
building
for
building
a
I
believe
the
board
is
fairly
familiar
with
this
project
and
this
site
in
particular.
F
We
were
here
in
October
and
also
attended
the
PRC
meeting
this
month,
so
I
I
won't
go
into
too
great
of
detail,
but
we
are
here
to
talk
about
the
two
outstanding
additions
that
were
added
a
little
over
a
year
ago.
Now
to
the
final
site
plan
approval
update
those
were
relating
to
the
large
blank
facade
at
the
entrance
on
both
sides
of
the
building,
as
well
as
a
requirement
to
show
the
final
Landscaping
details
and
components
specifically
around
those
entrances.
F
So
run
through
some
of
the
things
we
heard
last
month
and
what
we
have
changed
in
response
to
them
again.
This
is
the
building
in
its
current
condition
as
of
a
week
or
two
ago.
F
So
the
three
main
concerns
that
we
heard
from
the
board
at
last
month's
meeting
were
that
the
the
landscaping
and
Furnishings
headed
around
the
entrance
on
the
Southeast
side
of
the
building
did
not
sufficiently
mitigate
this
large
blank
facade.
F
The
other
concerns
were
that,
because
we
weren't
showing
any
renderings
of
the
entrance
on
the
other
side
of
the
building,
the
board
did
not
feel
that
they
were
able
to
make
a
determination
of
whether
or
not
that
was
being
efficiently
mitigated
and
then
the
third
concern
was
relating
to
the
sidewalk
layouts
around
the
the
building.
So
in
answer
to
the
first
concern,
we
have
proposed
some
modifications
to
this
entrance.
F
Specifically,
one
recommendation
that
was
made
by
the
board
was
the
incorporation
of
signage
on
the
facade
in
question,
so
we
are
showing
a
concept
for
that.
Obviously,
the
building
signage
would
need
to
get
a
building
permit
and
you
will
have
an
ample
opportunity
when
we
submit
that
permit
to
comment
on
the
style
and
size
of
the
sign.
Another
recommendation
was
for
string
lights
or
or
lighting
to
be
looked
at
in
this
area.
We
interpreted
that,
as
string
lights,
being
a
good
solution
to
create
an
overhead
plane
in
this
Plaza.
F
Another
comment
was
just
relating
to
additional
elements
that
could
be
added
up
against
this
facade,
so
we're
looking
at
putting
a
planter
along
the
base,
something
with
some
Hardy
Vines
Twining
characters
so
that
they
wouldn't
go
crazy
but
still
draw
the
eye
down
to
the
the
lower
section
of
this
wall,
and
then
we've
also
proposed
changing
the
color
of
the
Furnishings
near
this
entrance
to
be
brighter
and
more
eye-catching,
as
opposed
to
the
more
simple
black
finish
that
we
had
previously
proposed
the
yeah
just
another
image
showing
that
again.
F
This
is
just
an
update
from
what
you
had
previously
seen.
So
the
second
concern
relating
to
the
other
entrance,
what
we're
proposing
here,
first
off,
just
showing
you
an
image
and
rendering
of
this
in
the
foreground
of
this
image-
you'll
see
that
there's
a
pretty
substantial
Arborvitae
hedge,
that's
part
of
the
planting
plan.
Initially,
this
was
conceived
as
a
way
to
screen
the
railroad
tracks
which
are
directly
adjacent
on
this
property
line
from
the
residence
in
the
building.
F
But
obviously
this
will
also
act
as
a
buffer
for
any
anyone
outside
of
the
the
property
looking
directly
at
this
wall
and
facade
in
the
side
of
the
building.
It
should
be
screened
fairly.
Well,
some
other
things
that
we
included
here
was
an
additional
plant
bed
in
front
of
these
two
accessible
parking
spaces
to
get
some
planting
and
canopy
in
this
area.
We
also
are
showing
Planters
against
this
blank
facade
and
the
addition
of
benches
on
the
side
as
well.
F
Relating
to
the
third
concern,
we
have
included
a
number
of
diagrams
showing
some
of
the
constraints
on
the
sidewalk
layout.
One,
mitigating
factor
that
we
feel
is
is
sort
of
been
overlooked
in
our
our
previous
presentation.
F
This
is
directly
adjacent
to
the
playground,
an
entrance
and
an
exit
for
tenants
of
the
building,
of
course,
so
it
would
have
limited
access
because
it's
not
a
public
building,
it's
a
residence,
but
this
would
be
the
most
direct
route
for
people
leaving
the
building
to
visit
the
rest
of
the
site,
and
we
were
asked
at
the
PRC
if
we
could
provide
a
view
in
the
model
space
here
of
of
that
entrance.
F
So
this
is
just
a
an
update
to
the
site
plan,
still
a
little
bit
diagrammatic
at
the
moment.
We
wanted
to
run
this
by
you
before
we
finalize
these
updates
into
construction
drawings,
but
this
is
the
location
in
front
of
those
Ada
parking
spaces
where
we
have
proposed
removing
this
section
of
flush,
Curbing
and
Ada
ramp
and
in
favor
of
an
additional
plant
bed
in
this
area,
the
two
additional
benches,
the
overhead
lighting.
F
This
diagram
illustrates
sort
of
that
third
concern
relating
to
the
The
Pedestrian
access
and
routes
around
the
site,
highlighted
the
entrances
to
the
building
in
yellow.
Here.
You'll
see
this.
F
This
building
this
building
entrance
here
on
the
end
closest
to
the
playground,
provides
a
fairly
direct
route
across
the
street
and
down
to
the
rest
of
the
development,
and
what
we
really
wanted
to
highlight
with
this
was
that,
if
what
had
been
requested
previously,
an
additional
sidewalk,
the
building
side
of
Yuga
Park
Lane,
if
that
were
to
be
included
it,
it
would
not
actually
reduce
the
distance
that
tenants,
leaving
the
building
would
travel
to
head
to
the
that
direction
and
the
rest
of
the
site,
because,
most
more
than
likely,
they
would
be
exiting
from
this
store,
as
opposed
to
this
door.
F
F
Just
an
overall
diagram
showing
the
overall
site
circulation
really
just
trying
to
highlight
here
the
extents
of
The
Pedestrian
circulation
on
the
site,
which
are
fairly
extensive
and
it
actually
is
a
fairly
well
connected
section.
There
is,
of
course,
this
one
piece
at
the
bend
of
Hugo
Park
Lane,
where
the
board
had
noted
that
there
was
not
a
connection
for
sidewalk,
so
we
wanted
to
go
through
you
through
with
you.
The
reasons
why
that
is
so.
This
right
here
is
is
one
of
the
major
limiting
factors
for
that
road
alignment.
F
It's
this
existing
nice
egg
pole
and
the
support
guy
wire
anchor
that
falls
right
where
that
sidewalk
would
be,
and
we
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
relocate
this
as
part
of
this
project
all
right.
This
diagram
illustrates
the
other,
both
that
limiting
guide
wire
location
and
the
other
limiting
factor
which
is
the
existing
property
line
for
the
BMW
Supply
parcel.
F
We
are
unable
to
cross
that
line
with
our
sidewalks
and
Road
alignment,
and
so
you
can
see
how
the
alignment
of
the
Park
Lane
and
the
sidewalks
are
limited
by
that
and
have
to
snake
through
this
opening,
which
restricts
our
ability
to
provide
a
contiguous
sidewalk
on
that
side
of
Duke
Park
Lane.
F
But
we
do
want
to
point
out
looking
back
at
this
diagram
that
the
majority
of
the
attractions-
in
fact
all
of
the
destinations,
would
be
on
the
other
side
of
Cooper
Park
Lane
anyway.
So
anyone
traveling
in
this
direction
would
at
some
point
desire
to
cross
the
Eva
Park
Lane.
There
are
very
limited
destinations
on
the
other
side,
so
Crossing
earlier,
rather
than
later,
we
feel
is
not
a
significant
loss
in
site
circulation.
F
One
of
the
final
limiting
factors
is
the
height
difference
between
the
finished
floor
elevation
of
the
building
and
the
grade
of
the
Park
Lane.
As
you
can
see,
the
curbs
have
already
been
installed.
The
asphalt
that's
already
down
that
is
built
per
the
approved
site
plan
for
phase
one,
which
is
a
a
little
bit
of
a
discrepancy
in
what
we
had
presented
previously
in
October
I,
had
erroneously
stated
that
these
parking
spaces
on
people,
Park
Lane,
were
serving
the
tenets
of
the
the
market
view
building.
F
In
fact,
they
are
on
the
medical
office
building
parcel
and
will
be
public
parking
spaces.
They
will
not
be
reserved
for
tenants
of
the
market
view
building.
They
will
serve
the
public
and
one
can
imagine
on
Farmers
Market
days.
They
will
provide
some
limited
relief
to
the
farmers
market
parking
lot.
Foreign-
that's
about
the
extents
of
the
presentation
here.
So
I
will
take
a
break
here
and
let
you
ask
some
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
just
to
remind
the
board.
What
we're
looking
at
to
do
today
is
to
look
at
two
conditions:
one
of
relatively
expansive
site
details,
condition
and
includes
landscaping,
and
the
other
Assad
condition
focused
on
the
the
two
walls
that
he
outlined
next
to
those
injurances.
So
we're
trying
to
decide
whether
what
we've
seen
and
satisfies
what
we
need
to
see
in
response
to
those
two
conditions
and
whether,
if
anything
else,
you
feel
like
you
need
to
see
before
we
approve
them.
B
Go
yeah,
I'm,
also
good
I.
Think
the
additions
are
a
nice
update
to
upgrade
to
the
buildings.
I
think
it
brings
in
more
in
line
with
a
market
rate,
building
kind
of
feel
in
nice
amenities
with
the
signage
and
the
overhead
lighting.
I
think
really
solves
that
entry
issue
and
I
I
appreciate
the
circulation
diagrams,
because
that
helps
understand
how
people
move
through
the
building
and
then
it
can
exit
it
on
the
side
towards
the
sidewalk,
as
opposed
to
coming
through
the
front.
C
I,
thank
you
for
presentation,
I,
agree.
I,
think
these
are
a
nice
change
in
the
Cyber.
The
lights
hanging
out
in
the
air
like
that
seem
odd
to
me,
I
would
afford
to
see
an
exterior
shading
structure
like
a
Pergola
to
support
those
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
nice
addition
to
the
patio
other
than
that
all
the
diagrams
are
helpful
yeah.
That's
my
only
suggestion.
C
Yeah,
thanks
for
these
updates
still
think
people
are
going
to
be
bolting
through
that
patio
Landscaping
to
get
to
the
other
side
of
the
computer
Parkway,
but
whatever
it'll
just
be
a
desired
line.
But
thanks
very
much.
E
For
me,
I
think
it
looks
great
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
original
process,
but
the
only
thing,
I
might
add
is
I.
Think
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
string
lights
so
long
as
they're.
You
know
sturdy
and
and
the
kind
that
would
stand
many
Ithaca,
Winters
I
also
I
know
we
can
have
a
bad
rep
for
bringing
up
signage
a
lot,
but
it's
a
little
hard
to
read
the
market
view
in
in
that
orientation
not
opposed
to
it.
E
It
might
be
better
if
it
was
two
words
that
might
be
me
being
nitpicky,
but
otherwise
it
looks
great.
Thank.
C
I
I
agree.
These
updates
and
the
views
are
really
helpful,
especially
the
diagram
of
the
function
so
I
feel
comfortable
moving
forward.
The
resolution,
as
it.
A
Is
all
right,
so
there
is
a
consensus
that
the
conditions
have
been
satisfied.
There
was
one
comment
that
a
structure
to
support
the
lights
might
be
worth
looking
at.
I
would
tend
to
agree
by
and
large
I
think
that
this
is.
You
know
compelling
answer
to
the
questions
we
had
and
I
know
that
Lisa
had
something.
C
Yeah
I
just
had
I
just
had
one
more
comment
about
the
sidewalk,
so
the
sidewalk
on
the
west
side.
That
just
stops,
so
you
did
say
that
all
of
the
attractions
are
on
the
east
side.
However,
there's
you
know
an
acre
of
Community
Gardens
on
that
side.
So
if
someone
wanted
was
gonna
Park
and
walk
to
the
Community
Gardens
or
people
from
how
would
they
it
just
sucks?
Is
it
is
there
something
we're
not
seeing
like?
C
Is
there
that
has
been
approved
by
the
community
on
the
Community
Gardens
like
how
do
you
get
into
the
Community
Gardens
once
that
sidewalk
stops,
because
the
entrance
seems
to
be
right
that
you
know
you
were
going
to
park
right
along
the
street
and
walk
into
the
Community
Gardens?
How
would
you
do
that.
F
So
if,
if
you
were
parking
on
this
side
of
the
street,
you
you
would
need
to
more
or
less
immediately
cross
to
the
sidewalk
on
the
other
side
to
to
make
your
way
to
the
Community
Gardens.
F
Right
so
there's
there's
several
entrances
and
I'm
not
sure
how
often
each
one
will
be
open,
but
there
is
there's
one
here
which
is
more
of
a
vehicular
access.
F
There
is
also
I
believe
a
secondary
entrance
at
this
location.
So
you
are
correct
that
this
half
of
the
Community
Gardens
is
one
of
the
destinations
on
this
side.
C
A
So
we
can
look
at
that
after
we
move
the
resolution.
Is
there
anyone
not
ready
to
move
forward
with
the
resolution
that
these
conditions
have
been
satisfied?
Seeing
none?
It's
very
motion
said
resolution
I
see
Emily,
move
and
Daniel.
Second,
before
we
move
into
a
vote,
at
least
it
has
something
to
add.
C
So
it
sounds
like
we
are
complying
with
remote.
Removing
that
saying
these
conditions
have
been
satisfied
in
looking
over
the
conditions
for
the
whole
project.
C
I
found
a
condition
that
had
it
was
stated
that
it
was
satisfied,
but
I
can't
find
any
documentation
of
that
and
I've
asked
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
applicant
about
it,
and
it
was
pretty
important
when
it
was
a
letter
of
commitment
about
the
improvements
on
third
Group
13
and
that
they
should
be
funded
by
the
applicant
installed
in
a
design
and
that
was
removed
from
the
previous
approval
condition.
And
we
have
not
been
able
to
locate
an
executed
letter
of
commitment.
C
So
I'd
like
to
add
that
back
in
before
a
the
next
building
issue,
so
I
would
just
take
what
was
in
the
the
exact
language
from
from
the
previous
resolutions
or
the
develop
development
by
the
applicant
and
acceptance
by
the
city
of
a
plan
and
schedule
for
the
financing
and
implementation
of
transportation
and
emergency
access
improvements.
Detailed
in
the
Thief
Part,
three
or
other
alternative
improvements,
equally
appropriate
and
affected
by
the
city.
And
then
in
the
previous
solution.
There
was
a
description
of
what
the
letter
commitment
should
include.
A
So,
to
do
that
properly,
we
would
need
someone
to
move
that
Amendment
to
the
resolution.
Is
there
such
a
motion?
I
saw
Elizabeth
and
Emily.
Second.
Is
there
any
desired
discussion
on
the
amendment
before
we
vote
on
the
event,
seeing
none
we'll
roll
call
vote
for
the
Amendment
Emily.
C
A
Yes,
CJ,
yes,
Elizabeth,
yes,
Mitch,
yes,
Eric,
yes,
I'm
also
a
yes,
so
that
is
amended.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
desired
on
the
resolution
itself,
as
amended,
saying
not
equal
to
another
roll
call
vote
Emily?
Yes,.
C
A
K
A
F
F
G
L
A
L
Okay,
so
I'm
Laura,
Mattis
from
vision
and
I,
have
with
me
Eric
from
swbr
Julia
from
the
vision
team
as
well.
L
L
Nikki,
we
also
have
Marley
from
swbr
Team
the
landscape,
architect.
C
L
L
Okay,
so
these
are
the
involved
parties
in
the
cleanup,
the
CNS
companies.
They
are
the
environmental
Consultants.
They
will
be
on
site
every
day,
every
time
that
there
is
any
movement
on
side
of
any
work
that
gorick
the
contractor
will
be
doing.
Cns
will
be
there
to
monitor
document,
make
sure
that
the
work
is
being
done
based
on
the
dec
requirements
and
every
everything
that
was
already
approved
by
DEC
so
far
was
submitted
by
CNS.
It's
kind
of
like
a
third
party
that
will
be
managing
the
process.
L
Seneca
Meadows
is
where
goreck's
team
will
be
sending
the
soil
that
will
be
disposed.
They
are
based
in
Waterloo
and
later
in
the
presentation.
I'll
show
you
the
the
path
that
they
would
take
to
get
there,
and
this
can
be
changed
based
on
your
feedback,
but
that
that's
their
proposal
and
everything
is
being
done
by
GC
and
the
Department
of
Health
requirements.
L
One
of
the
requests
was
for
us
to
show
what
are
the
monitoring
equipment,
what
they
look
like
so
basically,
every
day
they
will
be
using
this.
This
three
equipment,
the
weather
monitoring
station,
to
monitor
the
wind
and
other
important
weather
things
related.
G
L
Have
one
fixed
air
monitoring
station
in
the
property
and
we'll
have
four
mobile
air
monitoring
stations
to
a
typical
project
of
this
scale
uses
two
mobile
error
monitoring
stations
we
are
doing
above
and
beyond.
L
What
typically
is
done
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
happy
that
the
that
we
are
tracking
everything
that
needs
to
be
tracked
at
higher
standards,
they're,
also
monitoring
stations,
the
the
monitoring
stations
will
also
have
alarms
that
will
go
on
if
anything,
it's
alarming
and
above
the
the
appropriate
levels
and
that
will
communicate
to
CNS
on
a
phone.
So,
as
I
said,
the
weather
station
monitors
wind
pressure,
humidity,
precipitation.
L
The
fixed
air
monitoring
station
will
be
placed
right
here,
kind
of
like
in
front
of
the
the
parcel
closer
to
the
neighbors,
and
this
monitoring
station
will
be
monitoring
two
points.
One
is
kind
of
like
the
typical
human
breathing
zone,
four
to
five
feet
above
grade
and
the
other
one
would
be
higher
in
so
like.
Whenever
there
is
a
wind,
it
captures
something
that
it's
a
higher
level.
L
We
also
have
the
as
I
mentioned,
the
other
mobile
monitoring
stations.
They
move
every
day
so,
depending
on
how
the
wind
is
blowing,
they
will
position
this
and
also
depending
on
where
in
the
property
they
will
be
doing
work
and
inside
this
little
box,
and
you
can
see
here
the
scale
of
it.
They
have
different
equipments,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that
some
important
ones,
the
VOC
concentrations,
are
monitored
by
this
equipment
in
yellow,
and
there
is
also
this
one-
the
monitors
like
dust,
mist
and
results.
L
This
is
an
excavation
plan
that
was
approved
by
DC,
basically
I
I.
This
is
all
available
in
our
website.
I
think
it's
very
technical,
but
it
just
so
you,
you
can
understand-
will
be
kind
of
like
Excavating
up
to
the
Bedrock,
wherever
it's
already
darker
gray.
It's
almost
like
a
Bedrock
already
exposed
CNS
would
be
already
have
a
plan
where
that
would
be
a
path
that
it's
prepared
for
the
trucks
to
go
on.
That
basically
will
try
to
be
as
possible
as
much
as
possible
on
the
Bedrock.
L
So
it
is
not
putting
more
more
dust
to
the
air,
and
a
typical
day
of
the
of
the
crew
will
be.
The
CNS
team
are
right,
arrives
on
site,
they
will
set
up
the
weather
station
and
the
community
air
monitoring
stations
to
see
where
the
the
wind
is
blowing
and
they
will
begin
the
monitoring
to
establish
this
daily
background
conditions.
Before
the
work
is
done,
the
contractor
will
inspect
erosion
and
sediment
controls
and
other
side
conditions.
L
So
there
are
a
lot
of
requirements
when,
like
until
the
moment
that
they
can
really
start
doing
actual
work,
that
would
be
excavation
soil
handling,
truck
loading
and
they
will
be
doing
employment,
employing
dust
control
and
suppression
measurements
as
necessary,
and
then
any
vehicle
that
is
coming
in
and
out
of
the
side
has
a
lot
of
control,
also
on
what
it's
getting
out.
So
it's
like
not
bringing
any
contaminated
soil
outside,
so
they
are
washed.
L
The
the
wheels
are
washed
and
if
in
the
path
of
like
going
in
and
out,
if
anything,
any
soil,
it's
spilled
or
dropped.
They
have
to
immediately
clean
that,
and
this
is
the
path
that
they
should
be.
They
are
proposing
to
take
going
down,
not
taking
any
I
would
say
like
of
the
more
dense
roads
where,
like
more
residential
happens,
so
they
will
go
to
this
path
and
then
go
down
to
Waterloo,
where
the
Seneca
Meadows
waste
disposal
is
located.
L
The
last
time
that
this,
the
Seneca
Meadows
sapped
trucks
coming
in
it's
3,
30,
which
kind
of
like
limits
the
duration
of
work
hours
for
them.
So
they
ask
if
we
could
start
working
at
six
a.m.
I
told
them
that,
probably
that
would
be
a
no
for
for
the
board
and
for
the
city,
and
so
we
would
like
to
ask
for
7
30
to
3
from
7
to
3
30,
if
possible,
and
then
CNS
also
will
monitor
everything
so
like
during
the
day
they
will
be
monitoring,
continue,
monitoring,
weather
conditions.
L
If
the
wind
changes
during
the
day,
they
will
make
sure
that
the
monitors
are
repositioned
and
they
have
this
daily
logs.
That
I
believe
weekly
are
submitted
to
DC
for
their
review.
This
I
know
you
guys
asked
for
a
map
because
they
change
every
day.
L
This
is
one
example
of
one
of
the
maps
and
how
it
looks
like
they
track
where
the
the
upwind
and
downwind
stations
are
located
and
any
movement
that
is
happening
on
site
and,
finally,
like
what
happens,
if
dust
is
generated
during
the
mediation,
the
remediation
activities,
there
are
a
few
techniques
that
they
use.
L
These
are
just
some
of
them
that
I
would
like
to
list.
They
always
whack
the
equipment
they
try
to
limit
the
vehicle
speed
on
sites,
that's
something
that
I
I
believe
it's
also
on
Seeker.
What
is
on
Thief?
L
They
limit
the
size
of
the
excavations
they
they
do
all
this
that
it's
right
here,
yeah
I
feel
like
I
try
to
go
as
fast
as
I
could
I
hope.
This
was
helpful.
I'm
happy
to
provide
more
information.
I
tried
to
condense
all
the
like
pages
and
pages
that
we
submitted
so
far.
L
With
that
I
will
let
Eric
and
Marley
take
over.
H
Thank
you
Laura.
Can
everyone
hear
me
okay,
good
great,
so
we
wanted
to
give
just
a
brief
update
on
where
we're
at
with
things
and
then
Marley
is
going
to
jump
into
well.
I
guess
I
may
turn
it
over
to
Marley
here.
First,
with
the
caveat
that
since
we
last
saw
you,
there
have
not
been
very
dramatic
changes
to
the
overall
building
Insight
most
of
the
development
has
been
on
the
island
and
just
providing
some
additional
details
with
for
that.
H
So
I
guess
with
that
said,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Marley
to
go
first
and
Marley
will
walk
through
a
little
bit
of
the
landscape
architecture
and
site
plan,
just
as
a
quick
recap
and
then
talk
about
the
island
in
the.
K
Difference
thanks
Eric
good
evening
Marley
beers,
I'm
with
swbr
landscape
architect
on
this
project,
I'll
quickly
give
an
overview
of
the
building
site,
and
then
we
can
talk
more
in
detail
about
the
Overlook
for
the
landscape
architecture
on
the
site.
K
The
site
is
fairly
narrow,
so
we
do
have
Foundation
plantings
and
we're
catching
storm
water
management
in
front
of
the
building
there
adjacent
to
the
parking
lot,
and
we
also
have
some
Foundation
plantings
wrapping
around
the
building
in
front
of
the
patio
and
next
to
the
drive
lane
going
into
the
proposed
parking
garage
underneath
the
building
and
then
the
rest
of
the
site
is
really
just
trying
to
stabilize
some
of
the
slopes.
K
Meadows
seed
mixes
are
used
in
most
areas
with
some
Lawns
Lawns
seed
grass
out
front
to
establish
more
of
that
front
front
yard
lawn,
look
where
the
rest
of
the
site
may
be
more
naturalized
to
stabilize
the
site
and
as
we
move
get
myself
my
bearings
North
on
the
page.
This
is
where
we
come
to
the
Overlook.
So
this
is
a
good
view
to
show
how
we
get
over
to
that
area.
K
There
is
a
proposed
bridge
that
goes
over
a
bit
of
a
depression
between
the
two
sites
there
that
gets
you
out
to
the
Overlook
and
the
Overlook
right
now
we
have
it
proposed
as
more
of
a
natural,
still
compacted
stone
dust
path
with
some
benches
to
get
some
of
the
nice
views
that
you
have
from
that
space
and
Eric
I
can
have
you
hand
to
maybe
some
of
the
next
views
to
show
this
shows
a
little
bit
better.
This
is
an
aerial
view
with
our
line
work
overlaid
on
top.
K
This
shows
some
of
the
views
that
we're
trying
to
capture
and
why
we
place
the
Overlook,
where
we
did.
We
analyzed
some
of
the
existing
condition,
pictures
and
aerial
views
of
this
site
to
position
this
in
the
best
position
we
possibly
could
to
take
advantage
of
both
the
the
views
of
the
waterfall
and
Views
down,
looking
West
downfall,
Creek,
Gorge
and
looking
in
that
direction.
K
So
both
views
both
of
the
benches,
are
positioned
to
get
the
best
views
that
they
can
and
I
think
there
are
a
few
more
documents
in
our
package
that
show
what
that
looks
like
this
is
without
the
aerial
view,
underneath
just
looking
at
the
line
work
there.
This
shows
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
grading
that
we
are
coming
over
from
the
bridge
from
the
proposed
building
site
out
to
the
Overlook.
K
So
you
can
see
there
the
proposed
Bridge,
which
actually
is
taking
advantage
of
some
old
Foundation
from
a
previous
bridge
that
was
on
site,
so
we're
taking
advantage
of
that
existing
structure,
and
this
is
a
view
of
the
building
and
how
that
Overlook
comes
into
play
with
the
existing
site.
That's
there
and
today
there
isn't
access
really
to
this.
Well,
there's
not
I
would
say
formalized
access
to
this
point,
so
this
would
be
a
new
Overlook,
formalized
Overlook
for
the
city.
K
This
would
be
open
to
the
public,
so
that
is
right
now.
I
think
that
there
is
access
from
down
below.
So
this
would
allow
for
a
different
Vantage
Point
up
above
to
both
the
East
and
the
West
foreign.
H
Yeah
I
guess
just
two
items
that
I
might
add
to
your
presentation.
There
thanks.
That
was
great.
As
far
as
sort
of
the
Landscaping
goes
on
the
Overlook
itself,
we're
not
proposing
a
lot
of
new
plantings.
L
H
There
it
is
kind
of
a
rock
face,
and
it's
Marley,
certainly
chime
in
if
I.
G
H
You
have
anything
else
to
add,
and
so
and
then
the
second
part
is,
we
can
probably
see
it
in
some
more
a
little
bit
better
in
some
of
these
black
and
white
shrines.
But
excuse
me
my
cursor
doesn't
want
to.
H
Here
from
a
safety
and
sort
of
I
guess
from
a
safety
standpoint,
the
pedestrian
bridge
itself
will
look
at
some
images
of
what
the
actual
construction
of
the
bridge
is,
but
the
bridge
itself
will
certainly
have
guard
rails
and
any
of
the
sort
of
areas
around
the
bridge
where
there's
a
steep
drop-off
will
have
guard
rails.
But
as
we
move
on
to
the
island
itself,
our
proposal
would
be
to
just
essentially
make
some
trail
markers,
which
would
be
like
some
larger
Boulders
and
elements
that
frame
the
edges.
H
And
then
we
would
essentially
wear
this
and
where
this
ends
up
being
more
of
a
steep
area,
we
are
proposing
that
we
there's
an
existing
fence
that
sort
of
comes
down
at
the
edge
here.
We
would
propose
sort
of
tying
in
that
with
a
similar
type
of
events
and
at
some
point,
transitioning
back
to
more
of
a
typical
guard
rail
scenario
in
front.
So
if
you
could
picture
this
sort
of
around
the
Overlook
itself,
there
would
be
sort
of
like
a
guardrail
height.
G
H
That
would
you
know,
provide
safety,
but
also
preserve
the
views,
and
then
you
know
on
this
side
where
there
is
relatively
close
to
where
you'll
be
walking,
we're
proposing
a
fence
there
to
sort
of
tie
into
the
existing
fence
just
because
right
here
there's
you
know
this
line
kind
of
represents
the
edge
of
the
of
the
Ravine
there.
H
So
on
this
side
you
know,
there's
really
you're
not
very
close
to
the
edge
on
this
side,
so
it
sort
of
proposed
that
it's
not
exactly
necessary
to
have
any
sort
of
guard
rail
or
or
fencing
on
that
side,
but
certainly
open
to
any
suggestions.
There
I
think
you
covered
the
rest
of
it
Marley,
so
I'll
just
really
quickly
use
pan
to
the
bridge
so
that
we
can
see
that,
although
it's
pretty
simple
and
straightforward,
oh,
we
did
have
these
images
too.
I
think
we
had
shared
these
previously.
H
These
are
just
some
views
that
we
took
that
you'll
see.
So
this
will
be
the
image
crossing
the
bridge
before
you
cross
the
bridge
sort
of
back
on
our
side
of
sight.
This
would
be
looking
back
towards
the
waterfall.
This
was
taken
in
summertime,
so
certainly
a
little
bit
more
grown
in
this
view
started
to
straightforward
looking
at
the
other
side,
and
then
this
is
the
view
sort
of
down
Fall
Creek.
Looking
back
towards
the
lake.
H
Marley
talked
about
this
I
think
this
is
just
a
nice
little
graphic
to
Showcase
sort
of
what
we're
dealing
with
in
terms
of
scale
and
and
the
Raceway.
While
it's
not
really
a
super
steep
drop-off
that
we're
crossing
it
is
deep
at
the
sort
of
midpoint
there.
H
So
it's
not
like
the
Steep
drop-off
that
you
have
at
the
actual
Gorge,
but
the
Raceway
does
have
some
significant
height
to
it.
So
that's
a
useful
graphic,
I
think
and
then
finally,
just
after
working
with
our
contractor,
the
most
straightforward
way
that
we
see
to
do
this
bridge
is
to
use
one
of
the
prefabricated
sort
of
Trail
bridges
that
we've
seen
before.
H
So
this
is
would
be
our
proposal
for
that,
so
it
would
be
just
sort
of
a
a
metal
Bridge
with
a
wood
deck
that
we
build
some
concrete
foundations
for
and
then
set
in
place.
So
these
are
just
some
images.
I
think
everyone's,
probably
familiar
with
these
I
know
that
there's
one
over
the
inlet
when
you
turn
onto
Buffalo
Street.
G
H
A
H
Not
really
I
did
just
want
to
recap:
a
little
bit
Nikki
had
sent
a
note
about
the
zoning,
so
I
was
just
going
to
recap
the
variances
for
this
group
and
sort
of
reiterate
that
that
the
architecture
and
the
elevations
are
generally
the
same
as
they
were
before
and
I
say
generally,
and
that's
probably,
you
know
conservative
that
they're
pretty
they
are
the
same
as
they
were
before.
H
A
H
A
Awful
so
let's
go
around
the
room
and
get
a
reaction.
What
we've
seen
feel
free
to
respond
to
anything,
but
the
things
that
I
think
are
most
important
to
get
perspectives
on
our
level
of
comfort,
of
what
we've
seen
on
air
monitoring
and
the
cleanup
more
broadly
and
then
level
comfort
with
what
we've
seen
on
The
Overlook.
A
You
know
we're
not
doing
C
for
today,
but
I
think
that
has
more
to
do
with
bza
schedule
than
anything
else
so
think
about
whether
you
could
be
comfortable
moving
forward
with
Seeker
next
month
with
what
we've
seen
so
far.
If
there's
anything
else,
you
need
to
see
there,
you
know
and
then
the
things
that
leap
out
of
me
to
really
decide
whether
you're
comfortable
with
today
would
be
the
air.
A
D
Yeah
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
better
answer,
but
I
I,
don't
like
all
the
trucks
going
by
the
high
school.
The
Middle
School
I
have
to
think
about
how
loud
the
trucks
are,
how
close
they
are
to
the
schools,
but
particularly
at
the
in.
G
D
Morning,
when
buses
are
unloading
and
parents
dropping
kids
off
and
in
the
afternoon,
I
think
there
just
needs
to
be
some
thought
about
there,
not
being
a
a
mix
of
heavy
trucks,
pulling
contaminated
soil
and
and
kids
getting
into
school
buses
and
stuff.
Some
thought
needs
to
be
made
on
that.
It
does
seem
like
the
natural
way
to
go,
but
we
just
plan
for
that.
Second
thing:
is
it's
difficult
to
see
just
from
the
visuals,
but
on
that
Overlook?
D
Is
there
going
to
be
a
need
for
kind
of
trimming
of
Shrubbery
or
nearby
trees
to
kind
of
keep
the
views
open
and,
if
so,
with,
where
we're
back
in
the
city,
property
or
on
I
mean,
obviously
it
wasn't
used
to
be
open.
So
with
the
term
you
need
to
go
to
the
city,
property
or
the
site
property,
and
then
who
to
maintain
that
moving
forward,
improving
the
point.
Okay,
that's
all
I
have
great
thank.
A
You
Mitch
can.
C
Thanks
for
the
information
sounds
like
what
you
described
about,
the
air
monitoring
is
and
what's
required
by
the
Department
of
Environmental
conservation.
So,
but
it
looks
good
thanks
for
bringing
that
up.
Garrett
I
didn't
think
about
that.
But
I
don't
know
if
there's
another
way
for
them
to
get
into
other
than
going
through
residential
neighborhood,
which
would
be
worse
yeah
and
then
about
the
Overlook
I
think
it
looks
good
I
think
it's
a
good
addition
to
that
Fall
Creek
area
so
and
yeah.
Those
guardrails
are
definitely
necessary.
C
It'd
be
nice.
If
you
could
replace
the
existing
fence
because
it
looks
like
it
needs
it,
so
that
it
looks
a
little
bit
more
uniform
with
your
friends.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
lot
of
added
cost
to
your
project
and
it
would
mitigate
that
as
far
as
overgrowth
or
was
it.
You
didn't
mention
that
I
don't
know
if
they're
allowed
to
be
trimming
in
these
areas,
so.
G
C
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
share
some
concerns
about
the
how
the
whole
route
that's
been
indicated
for
the
project,
namely
because
I'm
not
going
to
live
in
a
state.
Road
and
I
know
that
when
trucks
need
to
slow
down,
they
tend
to
be
over
utilized
jake
brakes.
Not
that
that's
the
purview
of
the
planning
board,
but
I
find
that
to
be
extremely
irks
on,
because
you
know
there's
bricks
and
other
shape,
breaks
and
they're
very
very
loud.
C
The
only
other
comment
I'd
say
is
I
see
that
they're
requesting
a
number
of
variances
and
can't
say
that
I
love
to
eat
this
I
think
the
ephes
is
going
to
look
gross
real
fast.
So
we
can
do
something
about
the
ephes.
That
would
be
great.
M
E
So
I,
actually
you
know
Laura.
Thank
you
for
the
thermal
explanation,
I
think
it's
a
really
well
thought
out
plan,
Gary's
great
point
about
the
route.
I
think
it's
a
total
bottleneck
and
I
think
if
we
can
get
creative
about
that,
there
would
be
more
comfort
from
the
start.
I
think
you
have
a
very
thorough,
modern
learning
process
and
you
also
have
a
really
great
public
Outreach
platform
for
this
project,
to
the
extent
that
those
can
be
combined
to
publicize
the
performance
or
the
monitoring
data
on
a
daily
basis,
I
think
it.
E
You
right
because
you'd
provide
peace
of
mind
and
reporting
to
the
public
on
the
construction
site,
and
it
seems
that
you
would
have
the
data
so
I
think
that
would
be
incredibly
welcome.
I
think
all
the
right
components
are
there.
You
have
a
great
dedicated
landing
page
for
this
project
and
you're
already
collecting
the
data,
so
I
think
it'd
be
amazing
to
see
that
and
I
think
it
would.
It
would
alleviate
a
lot
of
the
concern
for
the
Overlook
I
think
it
looks
great
no
major
comment.
E
I
agree
with
most
of
the
comments
that
my
colleagues
have
a
little
bit
of
a
lighting,
junkie
and
I
think
that
non-intrusive
sort
of
non-exposable
should
be
really
good
here
sort
of
downloading.
There
is
railing
with
integrated
lighting.
That
would
be
precedent
for
this.
G
E
On
but
it's
a
green
railing
and
the
lighting
is
inside
the
railing,
you
don't
actually
see
the
bulb,
you
just
lights
down,
so
it
doesn't
obstruct
or
upstage
the
view
it
just
provides
wayfinding
and
in
a
very
like
subtle
way,
just
just
an
idea.
I
know
you're
still
developing
things
out,
but
just
a
thought.
C
Emily
yeah,
thank
you
all
for
this
presentation.
I
think
it
helps
understand
a
lot
of
things
that
were
left
open-ended.
Laura
I
think
that
what
you
explained
about
the
air
monitoring
was
excellent.
It
really
helped
me
I
feel
very
comfortable
with
the
information
that
was
provided
and
the
parties
involved
and
then
I
have
a
few
questions
about
the
bridge
and
the
Overlook.
C
She
don't
have
to
enter
now,
but
I
saw
in
one
of
the
existing
plans.
There's
some
structure
on
the
south
side
of
the
gorge
under
the
bridge
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
gets
removed
as
part
of
the
project
or
if
it
remains
irrelevant.
C
Also
I
have
a
five-year-old
semi
danger.
Meter
might
be
artificially
high,
but
I'm
not
comfortable
with
just
Boulders.
So
maybe
maybe
there's
a
guardrail
I.
Don't
think
it
has
to
be
a
full
fence,
but
just
for
my
personal
view,
if
there
was
some
railing
that
would
stop
little
people
from
walking
through
folders
I
would
visit
there
more
often
I,
like
the
style
of
the
bridge,
I
think
it's
a
nice
nod
and
the
industrial
pass
with
the
of
the
site
and
I
wonder
about
hours.
A
Great
Mitch,
you
ready,
can
we
come
back
to
you
yeah.
B
I
agree
with
what
Emily
was
saying
about
the
safety,
Factor
and
I.
Don't
know
the
Overlook
just
seems
a
little
underwhelming
to
me
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
know
you
would
want
to
put
a
fence
around
that
the
island
itself,
because
people
are
going
to
want
to
wander
off
of
that
they're
not
going
to
stay
where
the
benches
are
they're
going
to
want
to
go
to
the
edge
and
the
edge
in
the
photographs
that
you
showed
looks
very
eroding.
B
It's
like
it
looks
like
it's
slopping
off
and
even
those
pictures,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
fence
that
whole
area,
but
the
fence
has
to
be
very
non-obtrusive
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
down
that
road
right,
because
it's
I
don't
know
it's
a
design
issue
that
doesn't
need
to
be
solved
tonight.
But
but
again,
I
think
I.
Think
there's
more
of
an
opportunity
here,
but
I'd
be
very
careful
about
getting
it
right
and
I.
Just
I,
don't
think
what
you
have.
There
is
quite
right
at
the
moment.
A
So
I
want
to
try
to
encapsulate
what
I
feel
like
I've
heard
and
I
want
to
ask
a
question
about
where
we
feel
like
we
are
and
then
I
want
to
ask
staff
for
their
stuff
because
they're
going
to
know
and
want
to
hear
more
stuff,
but
I
heard
something
sworn
over
route,
but
a
general
level
of
comfort
with
the
mitigation
plan
environmentally
Beyond
route,
I
heard
someone
I
would
consider
fairly
substantive
questions
about
how
the
Overlook
is
going
to
work
from
managing
visitors
and
upkeep
perspective
and
I
think
with
both
of
those
sort
of
sitting
outside.
A
We
had
to
do
a
secret
vote
tonight,
like
I'm,
not
sure
we
cleared
the
bar
right
like
it
sounds
to
me
like
we're,
not
quite
there
and
so
I
think
that's
worth
saying,
because
they
obviously
would
like
us
to
you
know,
be
able
to
move
forward
with
that
when
they're
ready,
you
know,
maybe
as
soon
as
next
month
and
so
I
would
also
check
in
with
staff
about
what
they
see
is
outstanding.
C
I
see
as
I'm
saying
now
that
this
has
come
together
as
an
actual
proposal
for
the
Overlook
reminder
that
it
is
on
city
property,
so
I.
We
need
to
have
internal
conversations
about.
You
know
the
concept
was
there,
but
now
it's
a
plan.
So
there
are
things
in
the
development
agreement
about
fencing
and
I.
Don't
remember
exactly
where
the
fencing
has
to
be,
but
there
is
required
and
then
the
questions
will
there
be
you
know,
will
there
be
vegetation
maintenance
to
preserve
you,
or
do
we
just
get
what
you
get
like?
C
Should
it
be
in
that
exact
location,
or
should
it
be?
How
do
what
is
the
city's
tolerance
for
liability
and
all
those
questions
and
the
actual
design
that
all
is
an
internal
conversation
that
we
should
have
very
soon?
In
fact,
I
just
set
an
appointment
to
do
it
so
and
and
circle
back
with
me
now.
So
that's
really
a
next
step
for
that
yeah.
A
C
C
A
I
A
C
Like
showing
that
but
I
think
it
also
depends
on
what
the
development
agreement
is
in
it.
For
that.
I
C
On
the
variance
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up
quickly,
it's
not
the
off
Street
loading.
It's
still
not
that's
still
up
in
the
air.
I,
don't
think.
Megan
has
all
the
new
materials
and
I
know.
You
guys
think
there's
three
spots
but
I
don't
know
if
they
qualify
I,
don't
need
zoning.
So
that's
why
that's
still
there.
J
H
G
H
Submitted
this
back
in
August
and
then
everything
got
put
on
hold
while
we
were
doing
the
development
agreement,
so
apologies
on
my
end,
I
thought
when
Megan
had
asked
us
to
resubmit
this,
it
was
just
a
formality
because
we
were
changing
the
planning
board
dates.
Nothing
has
changed
as
far
as
I
know,
so
the
submission
back
from
August
we're
just
going
to
change
the
dates,
the
the
loading
that
we
have
on
here,
if
it,
if
there
is
an
issue
with
it,
just
certainly
let
us
know
this
is
what
we've
had.
H
H
Variances
that
we
do
have
are
for
rear
yard
setback
and
for
Total
Building
height
in
feet
and
number
of
stories,
but
both
of
those
have
been
discussed
with
Megan
at
length
and
I
think
she's
fairly
comfortable
with
those
two.
So
if
the
holding
up
is
on
loading
I'm
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
her
and
I
can
do
that.
C
H
A
conversation
way
back
when,
with
Chief
Parsons
about
the
loading
and
that
first
loading
zone
is
in
the
turnaround
technically
and
I
think
he
was
comfortable
with
it.
Given
the
fact
that
there's
three
other
loading
zones
and
the
likelihood
of
there
being
all
four
loading
zones
in
use
and
a
fire
emergency,
where
a
fire
truck
needed
to
turn
around
was
so
low
that
he
was,
if
I
recall
correctly,
and
we
can
verify
this,
he
was
comfortable
with
the
one
loading
zone
being
in
the
turnaround
technically.
C
Only
other
thing
that
we
had
that's
was
the
lighting.
H
Not
yeah,
sorry
about
that
I
got
that
I
forgot
to
mention
that
we
did
submit
some
photometric
plans
so
on
the
exterior
of
the
building.
There
are
just
a
few.
Might
let
me
see
if
I
can,
if.
H
There
are
just
a
few
minor
lights
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
so
mainly
we
we
have
the
lights
at
the
areas
where
you
would
expect
lights,
like
doors
and
and
the
patios
and
things
so
those
are
really
not
contributing
a
lot,
because
they're
just
sort
of
the
the
lights
that
you
would
expect
to
see
at
like
a
door
entry,
but
we
did
do
the
photometric
plan
for
all
of
the
parking
lot
lights
and
I
am
not
a
light
engineer,
but
the
the
light
drops
off.
This
is
the
last
Light.
H
This
is
probably
a
better
plan.
This
line
right
here
sort
of
represents
the
the
ridge
slash
property
line
more
or
less
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
there's
light
around
this
door,
but
it
drops
off
substantially
quickly
once
you
get
towards
the
edge
of
the
property
line,
so
we're
not
showing
any
light
diffusion
off
the
property
line,
and
then
this
just
for
so
that
the
plane
board
has
it.
This
is
the
proposed
light
inside
that
we're
proposing
for
the
parking
lot
lighting.
H
So
you
know
they're
fairly
sophisticated
these
days
and
you
know
we
tried
to
keep
the
light
from
spreading
off
properly.
So
if
there's
any
other
information
on
this,
let
us
know,
but
hopefully
this
is
I-
think
the
question
was,
you
know:
could
we
have
a
photometric
plan
and
see
how
it's
going
to
work?
So
hopefully
this
is
satisfying.
C
Daniel
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
think
human
lighting
or
it'll
be
overlooked.
Luck
and
Rich
I.
E
C
E
H
Think
he's
talking
about
one
that
was
in
and
that
we
talked
about
last
time
so
that
that
was
really
in
response
to
the
question
that
we
had
last
time
about
General
site
lighting.
H
The
one
about
the
Overlook
I
think
is
a
new
one
for
me
personally,
I
think
that's
a
new
one
for
us
and
I!
Think
that's
something
that
will
you
know,
take
back
to
the
design
team
and
explore
and
see
if
there
are
options
for
that
and
then
understand
that
and
talk
with
the
board
about
lighting
over
there.
A
K
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that
I
think
that's
also
a
City
question
as
well.
If
they
want
would
like
this
area
to
be
accessible
after
dark
I
think
if
you're
asking
pedestrians
and
the
public
to
come
to
this
area
after
dark
in
our
minds,
I
think
that
this
would
be
something
that
would
be
closed
after
dark,
so
we
wouldn't
propose
Lighting
on
the
bridge.
Not
you
know
in
a
way
not
to
ask
people
to
go
out
there
at
night.
It
would
really
be
just
something
during
the
daytime.
A
All
right,
because
we're
overtime
on
this
I
just
want
to
check
in,
is
there
anything
left
from
border
staff.
Lisa.
G
C
Does
the
board
mean
to
determine
what
route
we
use
it?
There's
I
feel
like
there's,
multiple
factors
at
work
here
and
I'm.
Not
sure
part
of
it
is
like,
when
is
the
abbreviation
going
to
be
done?
If
it's
going
to
be
done
in
the
summer,
when
school
is
the
session,
for
instance,
that
is
that
change?
Is
it
what
does
it
matter?
What
what
DC
thinks
would
be
the
best
grew
or
what
transportation
engineering
things
would
be
the
best
like
what
information
do
you
need?
D
D
I
think
just
Consultants
and
then
Robbie
I
just
want
to
add
I
know
this
is
we're
talking
about
a
Seeker
or
another
design
review,
but
I
just
wanted.
Whatever
some
writing
comments,
I
just
want
to
say,
I
can
incur
with
CJ.
Oh
I.
A
H
Yeah
I
guess
I
would
like
to
present
some
projects
that
we've
done
that
have
been
ethis
and
they've
existed
for
a
decade
or
so.
H
G
A
I
appreciate
that
applicant
I
think
there's
limited
appetite
for
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
ethos,
case
studies,
because
we've
seen
a
bunch
of
them.
You
know
it's
not
that
we
are
not
aware
that
ethos
can
look
good
in
certain
contexts.
A
A
So
so
there
is
a
lack
of
enthusiasm
for
that
material
that
is
consistently
held
by
this
board
as
a
whole.
You
know
specifically
white
people
on
a
difficult
site
that
you
know.
You've
got
a
lot
of
stuff
to
work
with
I
understand
that
now
that
said,
what
else
do
we
have
to
get
through
on
this
project
tonight?.
B
Mitch,
sorry,
let
me
take
extend
this.
There
was
a
question
about
hours
of
construction
operation
yeah
what
what's
different
from
where
the
city.
G
A
D
L
So
I
can
I
can
address
that
a
bit
the
I
can
get
a
confirmation
from
CNS
if
all
materials
that
will
be
removed
from
the
side
are
so
like
we
can
remove
non-contaminated
soil
and
then
he
also
said
that
there
are
a
lot
of
times
where
we'll
have
contaminated
soil
we'll
test,
and
then
we
will
put
some
treat
that
soil
to
be
to
become
non-contaminated,
and
then
they
will
be
moved
to
Seneca
Meadows,
so
I
can
also
come.
He,
and
he
mentioned
that.
L
Sometimes
there
are
some
soils
that
cannot
be
treated
and
days
will
be
moved
to
a
different
landfill.
Special
out
of
state
I
can
confirm
like
how
many
times
that
happened.
Is
that
something
that
we
are
expecting
to
exist,
because
my
understanding
is
that
everything
that
will
go
to
Seneca
metals
on
Waterloo,
it's
actually
actually
non
-hearted
anymore.
A
The
Helpful
information:
you
know
that
some
backup
on
that
some
context
could
be
further
anything
else.
You
want
to
talk
about
tonight.
D
You're,
not
thinking
about
doing
like,
like
nighttime
light,
show
at
nine
calls
the
lights,
shine,
good,
colors
and
then
laser
beings.
M
L
N
Okay
and
okay,
so
I
can't
tell
is
everyone
seeing
my
screen?
Yes,
okay,
so
we're
seeing
the
gem
yeah
correct.
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
we're
we're
hopeful,
optimistic
I
think
we
were
potentially
slated
for
preliminary
and
maybe
final
approval
on
this
we've
been
with
you
guys
for
a
number
of
months
on
this
relatively
small
project.
N
J
Thanks
Steve
Adam,
Fishel,
Marathon
engineering,
civil
engineer
for
the
project,
I
think
the
slight
plan
discussion
can
probably
be
a
little
on
the
brief
side.
I,
don't
think,
there's
been
any
really
substantive
comments
that
have
come
out
of
the
last
few
meetings,
so
the
site,
layout
and
plan
itself
has
remained
pretty
consistent
for
the
last
few
meetings
we
have
put
together.
What
we
feel
is
a
fairly
robust
planting
plan
along
Bull,
Street
and
Linden
Avenue
that
would
combine
both
Street
trees
and
low-level
plantings
behind
the
sidewalk
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
building.
J
We've
Incorporated,
a
small
seating
area
at
the
rear
west
side
of
the
building,
give
people
a
screen
left,
as
requested
by
the
planning
board
in
an
earlier
meeting.
J
That's
basically
going
to
be
a
stone
dust
pad
where
a
table
and
chairs
can
be
placed
out
there
for
for
folks
to
congregate
and
hang
out
the
Ada
ramp
switching
sides
of
the
building,
so
the
southeast
corner
there,
the
Ada
ramp,
is
going
to
be
a
stamped
concrete,
come
on
off
the
sidewalk
on
Bull
Street
to
the
lower
of
the
lower
basement
level,
with
the
sidewalks
stairs
coming
down
from
the
main
entrance
to
meet
the
sidewalk
on
Linden
Avenue,
stormwater
runoff
will
be
collected
from
the
roof,
roof
drainage
system
and
piped
directly
to
the
city
storm
sewer
system.
J
We
are
in
the
process
of
coordinating
with
City
engineering
to
address
their
remaining
minor
comments
that
I,
you
know
the
comments
I
believe
are
minor
working
on
addressing
those
and
providing
them
the
the
basic
script
that
they've
asked
for
with
that.
You
know,
I
think
that
that's
the
extent
of
the
discussion
on
the
site
side.
G
N
I'm
gonna
resp,
so
we
in
the
past
we've
had
our
design
review,
meeting
and
I
think
we
generally
had
very
positive
feedback.
In
the
last
meeting
we
had
reported
to
all
of
you.
One
of
the
discussion
points
we
had
at
one
point
was
about
projected
bay
windows
that
we
that
we
had
proposed
on
on
the
corner.
N
And
if
you
remember
in
the
last
meeting,
we
had
to
report
to
you
that,
because
we
are
at
exactly
50
lot
coverage
as
the
building
has
been
designed
over
many
many
months
in
the
past
year,
that
we
we
found
out
working
with
Megan
in
in
the
the
city
that,
if
the
if
those
bays
are
to
project-
including
you
know,
basically,
we
had
like
a
two-story
projection
and
if
that
second
story
is
projecting,
it's
not
considered
a
projection.
But
it's
considered
part
of
the
building.
N
So
we
came
back
and
had
had
reported
that,
instead
of
that,
that
projection
being
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
six
to
nine
inches,
we
were
going
to
only
be
able
to
project
it
about
about
an
inch
and
in
still
creating
a
shadow
line
and
still
sort
of
creating
a
material
change
there
and
in
PRC
I
I'll
share
that
you
know.
One
of
the
board
members
sort
of
you
know
was
saying
it's
a
shame
that
you
know
that
the
variance
process
would
cause
such
a
delay
to
try
to
try
to
do
that.
N
And
the
question
was
asked
you
know
about
the
three-dimensionality
of
the
building
and
if
I,
if
I'm,
remembering
correctly
I,
think
we
were
sort
of
asked
to
summarize
the
you
know,
sort
of
the
status
of
the
design
with
regard
to
its
three-dimensionality.
N
N
Okay,
so
so
I
wanted
to
just
sort
of
recap:
the
design
you
know,
maybe
going
back
a
little
a
little
bit
in
time.
If
you
recall
some
of
the
first
designs,
we
actually
didn't
I'm
sorry
was
there
a
question?
No
okay.
N
In
one
of
the
in
the
earlier
design,
we
actually
had
a
sunken
entrance
and
we
we
had
been
requested
to
consider
raising
that
entrance.
We,
you
know,
we
thought
that
was
actually
a
great
idea.
N
You
know
we
did
add
some
cost
to
the
relative
construction
of
the
of
the
project,
but
we
understood
that
comment
and
when
I,
when
I
think
about
this
design
overall,
a
couple
of
things
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
you
know
the
scale
of
this
of
this
building.
Is
you
know
not,
unlike
that
of
a
large
single
family
home
in
college
town?
It's
it
it's
about.
You
know
two
and
a
half
stories
into
the
grade
in.
N
In
fact,
the
building
that
that
is
was
previously
on
the
site
was,
you
know,
essentially
a
former
residence,
and
for
that
reason,
while
we
think
about
three-dimensionality
I,
think
one
of
the
takeaways
is
the
break.
Waking
up
of
that
Mass
on
Linden
Street
is
pretty
significant.
Like
the
entrance,
the
entrance
to
the
building
is
a
recessed
entrance.
That's
you
know
approximately
five
or
six
feet
deep
in,
so
that
building
has
sort
of
this
carved
out
shape
into
it.
N
Adding
to
that
we
are
proposing
a
wood,
sunshade
structure
or
trellis
that
covers
that,
so
it
kind
of
cuts
in
and
then
that
canopy
is
is
pushing
out.
This
I
am
I,
do
need
to
point
out.
This
is
a
rendering
that
was
created
a
few
months
ago.
So
when
I
get
to
the
2D
elevations,
it
actually
is
a
better
representation
of
all
the
window
openings.
N
But
this
diagram
is
just
trying
to
show
the
elements
that
you
know.
We
think
create
the
visual
interest
in
this
facade,
the
materiality
that
being
a
horizontal
dark,
siding
in
combination
with
a
vertical
faux,
wood,
siding
and
those
two
planes
in
general.
When
you
look
at
this
facade,
there's
about
an
inch
or
to
an
inch
and
a
half
of
play,
so
every
time
you
see
the
dark
siding
in
the
wood
siding
there,
there
is
a
shadow
line.
That's
created
both
vertically
and
horizontally
in
in
the
in
the
facade.
N
The
window
openings
are
then
sort
of
recessed
about
another
another
inch
back
from
the
siding,
so
the
windows
are
then
pushed
back
as
well,
and
you
know
again,
I
think
the
addition
of
that
stair
creates
a
lot
of
three-dimensional
dimensionality
in
the
facade
as
well
the
stair
sort
of
reaches
out
to
the
sidewalk,
and
then
the
entrance
is
sort
of
set
back
I
all
most
rest
of
these
drawings.
That
I'm
showing
you
are
all
drawings
that
you've
seen
before.
N
So
we
are
looking
at
a
manufactured
Stone
and
that
marks
the
the
Ada
ramp.
That's
that's
going
down
to
the
lower
entrance.
N
There
is
a
visual
sample
of
the
the
dark
siding
which
is
a
lap
siding
about
a
six
to
eight
inch
profile
and
then
the
the
wood
colored
siding.
You
can
see
item
a,
and
this
was
previously
a
hand
sketch
that's
showing
sort
of
the
overlap
of
those
sightings,
the
the
shadow
line
that's
created
between
them
foreign.
N
So
these
are
the
latest
elevations
that
you
also
had
last
month,
the
the
previously
in
the
very
very
early
design.
We
had
glass
going
all
the
way
down
to
the
floor,
and
we
had
explained
you
know
later
that
within
those
apartments
that
was
really
causing
conflicts,
so
that
has
become
the
the
wood
accent
and
so
I'm
just
pointing
that
out,
because
the
rendering
was
showing
the
glazing
being
slightly
different.
We
do
have
this
sort
of
branded
moment
of
the
the
gem
hanging
off
the
facade
in
the
202
I'll
I'll
point
out.
N
This
is
where
that
wood
structure
would
be
that's
floating
between
the
the
five
foot
recess
in
the
facade
and
again
everywhere
that
we
go
from
the
dark
siding
to
the
wood
siding
we
have
about.
You
know
an
inch
to
inch
and
a
half
of
of
reveal
and
Shadow
line.
N
This
is
just
a
side
elevation
showing
the
the
stair
it's
a
metal
Stringer,
with
concrete
steps
and
and
a
steel,
handrail
and
inside
this
is
actually
this
lower
elevation
is
an
elevation
as
if
you
were
walking
down
the
ramp
and
looking
back
towards
Linden,
and
so
this
material
hatch
material
here,
showing
that
stone
wall
That's
the
stone
up
against
and
retaining
the
Earth
all
right,
and
these
are
actually
similar
to
the
hand
sketch
details
you
before
you
saw
before
this
is
just
a
a
wall
section,
that's
showing
how
the
the
siding
materials
and
the
siding
reveals
are
created.
N
And
with
that
Laura
Julia
anything
else,
or
should
we
just
turn
it
back
over
the
board
for
questions
I.
A
Thank
you
all
so
I
do
want
to
remind
the
board
that
we
are
looking
at
a
potential
preliminary
and
final
approval
tonight
so
make
sure
that
your
comfort
Rises
to
that
level
and
I'll
just
go
around
the
room.
Garrett
can
I
start.
D
C
Good
presentation
I
enjoy
the
drawings
and
the
detailing
yeah
I'm
good
to
go
CJ.
A
E
I'm
also
good
to
go
but
again
about
the
diamond.
It's
a
beautiful
building,
it's
a
very
ugly
Diamond.
Sorry,
maybe
perhapsably
more
abstracted,
I
get
the
concept.
I!
Don't
disagree
right,
but
it's
an
elegant,
beautiful
building,
looks
like
it
could
be
in
Northern.
California
right,
I
think
a
sign
that
that's
Pizza.
That
would
be
to
your
benefit
right.
C
A
All
right
so
I'm
hearing
you
know
a
consensus
on
both
building
and
side
could.
A
C
I
just
had
a
quick
question,
so
we
did
have
someone
call
about
the
trees
and
taking
them
out
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you're
removing
all
of
them.
That's.
Why?
Because.
C
Of
your
plans
have
said:
you're
trying
to
save
them,
but
that's
not
what
we
heard
from
the
personality.
J
Correct
there's
there's
a
comment
or
no
on
our
previous
version
of
our
drawing
that
had
some
plantings
or
some
smaller
trees
at
the
let's
see
the
southwest
corner
that
we
were
trying
to
preserve,
but
we
are
we're
going
to
be
taking
those
out
and
putting
in
some
plantings
and
a
street
tree
there
to
I.
Believe
the
street
tree
is
the
same
species
as
the
other
three
that
we
have
along
Google.
A
A
In
that
second,
yes,.
C
C
A
Right
so
under
issues
the
building
permit
there's
proposed
amendment
that
they
need
to
give
us
a
staging
plan
that
satisfies
the
city.
Engineer
is.
C
A
A
Any
opposition
with
those
conditions
right
I
believe
we
do
have
to
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
that
Amendment
though
so
I'm
going
to
go
around
the
room.
Actually,
no,
it's
very
movement
that
they
wouldn't
care
to
move
that
Amendment
Elizabeth
Daniel
seconded
we'll
go
straight
into
a
vote
Garrett
putting
the
amendment
yes,
Mitch,
Elizabeth.
A
A
A
The
resolution
near
I
understand
it.
We
just
approved
the
tdmp
they
submitted,
which
I'll
say,
is
fairly
straightforward.
I'll
give
you
a
second
to
read
the
document
and
if
and
when
someone
is
ready
to
make
that
motion
I
would
entertain
him.
I
saw
CJ
move
in
almost
about
a
second
now
opening
the
floor
for
discussion
on
the
tdmp
and
or
the
tdnp
resolution.
A
Did
people
feel
comfortable
moving
towards
the
boat?
Maybe
anybody
not
go
compromoney
towards
above
saying,
none
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
roll
call
vote
Garrick.
Yes,
Mitch!
Yes,
Elizabeth!
Yes,
CJ!
Yes,
Daniel,
yes,
Emily!
Yes,
I
am
also
a
yes.
So
we
have
approval
of
the
tdmp
and
I
believe.
That's
it
for
this
department
tonight.
Thank
you
for
the
applicant.
It's
a
beautiful
building
and
I
can't
wait
to
see
it
without.
G
G
A
Great
take
it
away,
please.
N
N
We
are
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
exterior
development.
We've
had
some
generally
good
comments
and
and
responses
to
the
Direction.
All
the
in
the
last
meeting.
There
were
some
questions
about
you
know:
could
there
be
a?
N
Could
we
create
again
more
three-dimensionality
in
the
in
the
facade
and
also
could
we
create
some
renderings
that
might
better
explain
both
what's
happening
on
the
ground,
plane
and
what's
happening
in
the
exterior
and
so
we'd
like
to
share
with
you
some
renderings
that
we've
been
working
on
I
was
thinking
to
myself.
I
haven't
been
in
council
chambers
in
a
while,
but
I
remember.
Whenever
I
presented
renderings
I
like
turning
out
those
lights
that
are
right
next
to
the
presentations
right
next
to
the
the
screen.
N
So
this
is
a
rendering
again.
We
were
we're
trying
to
capture
some
of
the
things
that
are
happening
on
the
ground
plane,
as
well
as
as
looking
at
investigating
some
of
the
exterior
development.
I'm
gonna
leave
the
presentation
mode,
so
I
can
maybe
zoom
in
around
this
diagram
a
little
better
and
show
you
what's
happening
in
our
current
design.
I
will
start
with
maybe
a
little
bit
here
at
the
ground
plane.
There
were
some
questions
previously
about
and
I
think
rightly
so.
N
The
pinch
point
of
the
building
and
the
corner
of
meadow
and
buffalo
and
you'll
I'll
show
you
in
a
moment
in
floor
plan
that
previously
we
had
carved
into
the
ground
floor
basically
back
to
this
corner
column,
but
we
had
almost
you
know
full
fit
out
of
the
ground
floor
on
Meadow,
Street
and
I'm
actually
going
to
jump
ahead
for
a
moment
and
then
come
back.
N
Our
previous
building
design
is
everyone
sort
of
oriented
here.
This
is
Buffalo
and
this
is
Meadow,
and
this
is
that
you
know
little
piece
that
sort
of
protrudes
on
the
corner.
We
had
previously
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
take
my
markup
tool.
N
We
previously
had
our
storefront
do
something
like
this,
and
this
was
our.
This
was
our
retail
space
on
the
corner.
N
I
think
we're
happy
to
report
to
you
that,
after
looking
at
that
and
after
your
comments,
we
thought
maybe
we
could
ease
that
edge
and
open
up
that
corner
the
dimension
from
the
bollards
to
that
curb
or
someplace
around
six
or
seven
feet,
and
we
thought
if
we
could
open
up
that
corner.
We
could
provide
something
more
like
23
24
feet
at
that
corner.
N
So
if
I
zoom
in
on
that
corner,
you'll,
see
we're
envisioning
ground
face
eight
eight
by
eight
dark
masonry,
a
material
that
would
be.
N
You
know
durable
for
the
for
the
ground
level
at
as
the
columns
and
then
at
the
back
of
the
opening
storefront,
and
potentially
these
accent
panels,
which
are
would
be
the
same
accent
color
that
we
would
we
might
recommend
on
the
upper
section.
We
previously
talked
to
you
about
the
the
wall
panel
being
two
different
fiber
cement
panels,
potentially
something
like
an
Ichi
hot
panel.
N
That's
scored
and
two
two
different
textures
of
two
different
exposures
sort
of
the
larger
exposure
at
the
bottom
and
the
higher
exposure
at
the
top,
a
dark
accent
panel
that
would
read
the
same
color
as
the
window
frames.
We
wanted
to
create
that
verticality
in
those
in
those
openings
in
the
overall
facade.
N
And
then
a
lighter
colored
gray
panel
that
marks
the
horizontals
at
the
floor
also
a
fairly
new
development.
We've
previously
shown
a
glass
slot
on
the
Buffalo,
Street
facade,
but
I.
Think
in
response
to
your
comments
about,
could
we
create
you
know?
Could
we
cut
into
this
facade
a
little
more?
We
have
proposed
making
that
opening
deeper,
maybe
as
much
as
a
foot
and
then
potentially
creating
that
sort
of
as
we
cut
into
the
building.
We
see
that
accent
color
in
the
cut
section
of
the
building.
N
It's
a
little
hard
to
tell
in
this
rendering,
but
this
accent
that
goes
the
entire
four
stories
of
the
building
is
actually
recessed
into
the
building,
and
these
other
verticals
that
you're
seeing
are
more
like
a
sun
shade
they're
projecting
12
to
18
inches
off
of
the
facade
did
I
did
I
hear
a
question:
no
okay,
I'll
keep
rolling.
N
Also,
you
know
a
new
development
we're
creating
this,
this
slightly
triangular
kind
of
Marquee.
That
marks
the
front
door
where
potentially
there's
this
branded
moment
of
the
citizen
and
below
that
space
storefront.
That
would
probably
be
our
community
space.
N
We
are
proposing
and
I'll
show
you
in
a
later
slide
a
a
local
artist
mural,
and
maybe,
if
Laura
can
elaborate
on
that,
if
she's,
if
she's
ready
to
but
she
I
know,
she's
been
talking
with
some
local
artists
and
we've
been
thinking
about
a
mosaic
Mosaic
panel
there
and
that's
right
at
the
front
the
front
entrance
to
the
building.
That's
where
residents
one
of
the
entrances
that
residents
would
be
able
to
enter
off
the
street.
N
We
have
a
similar
this,
this
similar
sort
of
four-story
slice
through
the
building
on
Buffalo.
That
is
a
completely
new
development.
Prior
to
this,
that
was,
you
know
that
facade
was
mostly
interrupted,
except
for
the
window.
Openings
and
I'll
just
remind
you
all
that
the
bat,
the
back
section
of
the
building
later
I'll,
show
you
a
floor
plan.
This
is
this
is
a
very
long
building.
This
is
just
the
headpiece
of
the
building
that
happens
at
the
corner.
N
We,
the
back
part
of
the
building,
is
actually
more
of
a
beige
material
than
a
gray.
So
we're
not
we're
not
suggesting
that
the
gray
panel
is
the
entire
length
of
the
of
the
building.
N
This
is
a
slightly
different
angle
at
the
ground
floor.
The
renderers
actually
accidentally
didn't
show
storefront
here.
There
really
should
be
a
storefront
glazing
here,
but
this
angle
allows
you
to
see
down
Meadow
Street.
If
you
recall
previous
to
us
sort
of
cutting
into
the
Buffalo
Street
facade,
we've
always
shown
the
buildings
set
back
from
the
property
line
which
is
about
in
this
location,
I
think
about
six
or
seven
feet.
So
we
have
the
full
sidewalk
condition.
N
That's
there
today,
plus
we've
cut
that
that
section
of
the
building
back
an
additional
six
feet
to
create
places,
maybe
for
small
tables
and
and
small
seating
areas
along
the
storefront,
and
there
is
a
landscaping
strip
along
there
as
well.
N
J
Sure,
thanks
Steve
I,
think
Mitch
had
to
comment
PRC
meeting
asking
for
just
a
quick
kind
of
street
level
view
cross-section
of
the
Meadow
Street
condition
that
would
result
so
essentially
out
there
between
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk
there's
about
a
five
foot
tree
lawn
and
not
even
tree
line.
It's
like
a
brick,
a
brick
paver
area
between
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk.
J
The
sidewalk
itself
is
about
seven
and
a
half
feet
wide
until
you
get
to
the
property
line,
and
then
we
have,
as
Steve
mentioned,
roughly
just
shy
of
seven
feet
available
between
the
property
line
and
the
face
of
the
building
that
fronts
on
Meadow
Street,
that's
available
for,
say,
patio,
seating
or
you
know
a
planting
strip
of
some
sort,
we're
trying
to
limit
the
height
of
the
overall
plantings
in
that
area.
So
it
doesn't
screen
the
storefront.
J
But
we
also
need
to
be
aware
of
you
know,
picking
some
plants
that
are
salt,
tolerant
because
of
the
heavy
traffic
and
the
salt
spray
from
Meadow
Street.
So
that's,
you
know
kind
of
the
condition
that
we're
trying
to
create
there.
L
Yeah
I
can
talk
about
this,
so
I
think
the
whole
overall
idea
for
this
project
was
always
to
pay
this
homage
to
the
citizens
and
I
always
loved
the
murals
from
Anne-Marie
zwack
and
that
are
on
the
science
center
and
some
other
places.
L
I
spoke
with
her.
We
are
studying
the
how
the
panels
work
structurally
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
solid
structure
for
it
behind
and
also
discussing
costs,
but
one
of
the
things
that
attract
me
to
potentially
have
a
mural
like
that
here
is
the
process
of
creating
this
mural.
You
can
have
people
from
the
community
participating
in
in
putting
that
together
and
I.
Think
that's
nothing
more
special
than
like
going
by
a
project
passing
by
a
building
and
saying,
like
wow
I
made
that
I
was
part
of
that
process.
L
I
think
that's
really
magical,
so
that's
the
the
idea
financially
or
structurally.
We
cannot
make
them
Mosaic
work.
We
can
also
talk
with
ethical
murals
for
the
the
painted
one,
but
I
think
for
this
project.
I
would
love
if
we
can
make
it
work
with
the
mosaics
and
I
think.
Another
thing
is
like
I'm.
Sorry
is
we
put
that
as
a
focal
point
in
that
location?
So
when
people
are
coming
from
the
corner,
they
can
see
that
focal
point
and
will
attract
them
to
explore
this
path
below
the
building.
L
So
we
don't
want
it
to
people
to
feel
like
that,
even
though
that's
open,
it's
still
like
is
this
public?
Is
this
private
like
can
I
walk
below
here?
So
the
idea
was
to
make
that
feel.
Like
that's
part
of
the
city
grid
and
people
can
just
walk
through
and
see
get
touch.
This
mirror
of
things
like
that.
J
Sure
I
briefly
mentioned
you
know
some
plantings
that
we're
doing
on
the
Meadow
Street
side,
particularly
the
you
know,
low-level
evergreen
shrub
with
some
some
regret
and
some
of
those
decorative
grasses
that
are
primarily
going
to
be
salt,
tolerant.
But
we
can.
We
can
talk
more
about
planting
selection,
but
that's
generally
been
our
approach
for
the
Meadow
Street
side.
We
are
showing
some
a
different
variety
of
shrubs.
J
As
you
turn
the
corner
from
the
Meadow
Street
to
that
back,
I
guess
the
north
side
of
the
main
building
there,
where
the
bike
path,
bike,
garage
or
bike
rides.
The
bike
storage
area
is
going
to
be
there's
some
shrubs
down.
That
way,
not
not
quite
that
far
up
Steve,
where
the
Bike
Locker
is
going
to
be
even
here
down
where
the
so,
if
you're
turning
you're
going
north
on
Meadow
and
you
turn
the
corner
on
the
building,
there.
O
J
In
there
yep
yep,
thank
you.
So
we
have
a
mixture
of
some
low-level
use
and
some
sumax
in
that
area
and
then,
as
we
proceed
up
both
flanks
of
the
buildings,
you
know,
there's
some
question.
I
think
Lisa
asked
the
question
of
what
we're
doing
along
the
flanks
and
we're
going
to
just
be
doing
some.
You
know
a
stone
mulch
area
there
along
those
perimeter
areas
and
then
we
get
to
the
north
side
of
the
of
the
building.
J
Where
there's
going
to
be
a
small
patio
area
for
folks
to
recreate
and
and
hang
out
or
having
some,
you
know
some
hydrangeas
and
some
regresses
and
other
plantings
in
that
area.
To
kind
of
spruce
that
up
the
fire
lane
itself
would
consist
of
I.
Believe
we've
settled
on
a
stamped
concrete
pattern:
that's
going
to
be
dyed!
Those
Provisions
are
outlined
in
the
plans.
It's
going
to
be
basically
a
dark
gray
slate
stamped
concrete
pattern
for
both
the
patio
area
and
the
portion
of
the
fire
lane.
That's
on
this
property.
J
And
lastly,
the
areas
along
the
side,
the
perimeter
there
that
there's
some
areas
that
do
have
fencing
there
now
I
believe
the
new
development
to
the
North
had
some
black
vinyl
coated
chain
link
fence
along
portions
of
this
property
line.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
is
close
in
the
gaps,
for
you
know
simply
just
for
site
security.
Closing
the
gaps
where
there
are
any
with
you
know,
similar
black
vinyl
coated
chain
link
fence
along
those
areas
as
well.
J
Oh
sure,
that's
okay,
yeah
I
said
there
on
the
left
side,
you
see
the
stamped
concrete
pattern
with
the
dyed
color,
the
fence.
That's
in
that
image
there
at
the
upper
left
is
the
existing
fence
that
borders
along
the
Project's
Northern
phase,
that's
going
to
remain
and
then
on
the
western
edge
with
the
chain
link
fence.
Again,
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
matching
the
the
black
vinyl
coated
in
those
areas,
as
well
as
some
areas
on
the
east
side,
adjacent
to
that
neighboring
building
as
well.
J
We'll
have
some
patio
seating
out
there,
whether
it's
the
table
and
chairs
or
the
picnic
table.
You
know
those
are
the
styles
of
the
seating
that
we've
been
looking
to
put
out
on
that
north
side
as
well
and
as
far
as
the
seating
along
the
Meadow
Street
side,
I.
Believe
it's
generally
what
you're
going
to
be
seeing
there
on
the
right
side
for
those
areas.
L
And
we
were
very
intentional
with
the
type
of
stamped
concrete
on
the
top
North,
so
we
feel
we
wanted
to
feel
like
that's
not
like
a
filing
even
like.
We
want
it
to
be
functional
as
a
fire
lane,
but
if
someone
is
sitting
there,
the
stand
concrete
will
be
kind
of
like
in
the
whole
area
and
feel
a
bit
more
pleasant
in
that
space.
N
And
I
I
think
the
last.
The
last
thing
that
I'll
I'll
mention
is
that
we
did
reach
out
so
visum
has
been
working.
We've
been
reporting
on
this
over
the
last
couple
months
and
I.
Think
Lisa
has
rightly
so
been
saying.
We
need
to
touch
base
with
the
fire
department,
the
fire
marshal.
N
We
we
are
ready.
We
are
ready
with
a
draft
to
have
that
meeting
with
the
fire
department
we
reached
out
to
them
today
and
got
a
response
that
so
that
meeting
should
be
happening
very
soon.
Hopefully
you
know
within
the
week
the
next
week-
and
you
know
they
did
say
that
their
concerns
would
be
that
we
just
reach
an
agreement
on
how
how
we
maintain
that
lane
and-
and
that
will
be
our
discussion
about
that.
N
But
we
haven't
spoken
with
them
yet,
but
we
will
get
that
on
the
books
very
shortly.
L
And
in
parallel
we
already
spoke
with
TCA.
The
person
in
charge
was
out
of
the
office
for
a
bit,
but
I
believe
there
are
no
concerns
with
the
proposed
easement.
They
are
reviewing
it
for
the
attorneys.
So
I
think
this
would
be
something
that
we
would
be
signing
pretty
soon.
I
hope.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Very
much,
I'll
remind
the
board
that
our
action
for
today
focuses
on
part
three,
but
we've
seen
a
lot
of
stuff.
That
is
not
that
so
before
we
dive
in
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
a
chance
to
respond
to
what
we've
seen
Emily
could
I
start
with
you.
C
C
It
really
opens
up
the
corner
and
makes
this
a
place
that
people
are
going
to
gather
and
go
to
I
love
those
vertical
blades
and
the
cut
in
the
building,
there's
not
a
lot
of,
but
they
give
you
a
lot
of
bang
for
your
butt,
I
think
and
really
work,
and
then
she
had
panels.
I
know
it's
a
quality
product
degradation
of
reveal
on
those
panels
is
cool,
so
a
thumbs
up
for
me
on
the
design
development
this
week.
C
E
E
More
retail,
more
density,
I
think
seeing
pronounced
crosswalks
makes
it
seem
like
this
is
a
much
more
walkable,
Avenue
and
I
think
it
will
be
once
this
is
finished.
I
think
the
color
palette
is
great.
I
think
the
bold
colors
are
awesome.
I
would
love
to
see
a
similarly
detailed
rendering
from
the
other
end
of
the
street,
including
the
building
that
the
citizen
would
be
essentially
hugging
right,
I,
think
contextually.
E
It
does
matter
and
I
agree
that
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
less
pronounced
different
color
palette
in
the
recessed
part
of
the
building,
but
overall
really
really
great
and
very
excited
for
this.
One
CJ.
C
Yeah,
thanks
for
this
yeah
I
think
visually.
It's
really
interesting,
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
why
I've
always
wanted
to
know
you
know,
what's
with
all
the
Ballers
here
on
the
corner,
I'm
just
curious
about
that,
but
I
see
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
are
still
unanswered
from
City
engineering
about
the
entrances
and
such
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
about.
You
know
how
that
would
impact
the
design
here
and
he's
like
a
really
critical
juncture.
C
So
I'm
really
curious
to
hear
more
about
that
and
I
think
it's
really
come
along
and
concerned.
Obviously
that
there's
there's
pretty
significant
limitations
based
on
the
engineering
concerns
on
the
project.
So
thanks.
C
Thanks
guys
for
the
presentation,
this
building
is
really
looking
sharp
I,
like
the
setback
on
the
ground
floor,
but
I
do
need
some
clarification
on
the
material
of
those
exposed
columns.
They
don't
look
great
to
me
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
quality
of
the
palette
of
the
building.
Would
you
say
that
was
split
face
blocksy.
N
If
I
said
split
face,
I
meant
ground
face
because
I
do
think
that
ground
and
it's
not
rendering
well
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
you.
It
doesn't
look
great
in
the
rendering.
C
Yeah
I
just
think
that
those
Corners
were
really
sharp
and
with
all
the
other
materials
and
then
having
like
CMU
there,
whether
it
is
ground
face
or
split
face,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
other
Solutions
there
might
be
or
if
you
could
even
have
just
like
two
steel
data,
tube
steel
or
I.
Don't
something
else
in
there.
It
just
looks
really
scale-wise.
It
was
really
thick
and
chunky.
C
The
other
thing
is
what
CJ
mentioned
about
the
white
collar
is
the
steel
bollards?
There
might
be
another
solution
for
that
as
well,
because
it
doesn't
look
like
the
bollards
along
the
sidewalk.
C
They
don't
look
like
they
match
the
rest
of
the
building
palette.
Those
blades
look.
Awesome.
I,
actually
really
like
the
neon
green
makes
the
building
kind
of
stand
out
and
I
love
those
panels.
Please
don't
turn
them
into
leapis.
G
C
A
Thanks
Elizabeth
Mitch.
B
Well
looks
great
thanks
for
the
development
of
the
ground
floor.
I
think
you
really
got
it
so
I
appreciate
that
I
think
the
green
blades
are
doing
a
lot
of
work
for
you
here
like
if
I'm
trying
to
imagine
that
building
without
them
and
it's
pretty
much
a.
B
Array
block
and
then
so
I
just
wonder
if
you
might
do
some
color
variation
on
the
sides
that
are
not
the
projected
corner
so
that
the
corner
kind
of
sticks
out
in
terms
of
my
hair.
We
don't
have
to
entire
coloration
here.
You
could
address
that
and
then
seeing
also
how
it
works
its
way
down
towards
the
north
end
of
the
building
and
seeing
more
design
development.
That's
similar
to
what
Emily
I
mentioned,
but
yeah
it
looks
like
it's
coming
along.
Thanks
could.
N
B
The
area
over
the
garage
and
the
area
north
of
the
inset
to
the
north,
you
know
how
it
looks
like
there's
a
cube
on
the
corner
that
you're
trying
to
project
a
little
bit
as
the
entry
or
the
community
facing
corner
of
the
building,
and
then
there's
the
wings
that
are
not
that,
so
there
there
could
be
a
hierarchy
in
terms
of
a
subtle
color.
If
those
are
lighter
or
some
other,
you
know
it
just
it
just
looks
pretty
Relentless,
it's
a
gray.
D
Pretty
much
concur
with
everyone
else:
I
love
the
corner
and
how
you've
opened
it
up
and
what
I
like
about
it
is
how
activating
that
streetscape
makes
that
look
like
a
city
Corner
as
opposed
to
the
edge
of
a
state
highway
which
I
think
you
really
really
need
so
I.
Welcome
that
I
love
the
fins
and
I
guess
mural
is
not
a
signage
package
per
se,
but
I
love
the
idea
of
a
sign
or
a
symbol
that
conveys
actual
meaning
rather
than
kind
of
a
gimmick.
A
You
Gary
the
only
thing
I'll,
add
and
you
zoomed
in
at
a
good
time,
is
that
you
know
this
is
another
predominantly
Gray
Building
that
we're
looking
at
with
the
bright
blue
sky.
A
That
is
not
reflective
of
current
conditions,
so
I'd
like
to
see
future
renderings
on
this
show
with
the
gray
sky,
but
you
know
you've
got
color
now
so
that'll
fix
it
and
with
that
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
dive
into
the
beef
and
I
do
have
in
my
notes
here
that
we
do
need
responses
to
city
engineer
and
as
we
raise
feed
concerns
Patrick
you
hear
about
that
as
well.
Lisa
do
you
have
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
was
so
helpful
to
see
this
rendering
and
and
so
helpful
to
see
how
it
fit
in
for
context
and
I
think
because
of
the
extreme
proximity
to
the
other
land
users
around
it,
particularly
in
a
small
house.
I
think
we
need
to
see
this
from
different
angles
around
the.
C
Maybe
not
to,
but
this
was
really
really
so
different
different
views
from
the
back.
How
it's
going
to
look
in
the
back
where
the
other
houses
are
and
the
other
residents.
A
So
that
does
bring
it
to
the
thief.
I'd
actually
like
to
ask
Nikki
to
help
us
see
where
we
should
be
focused.
C
G
C
Know
what
species
there
are
existing
and
that
planting
plan
on
schedule,
which
I
think
I
just
got
materials
before
this
meeting
but
I
think
we
may
have
included
that
and
though
so
that's
great
and
and
as
CJ
and
Rob
have
mentioned
really.
L
C
C
Garage
entrance
on
Buffalo
to
me
personally,
I
ate
at
the
milk
stand
last
weekend
and
just
looking
at
that
project
site.
It
is
really
close
to
the
intersection
where
that
garage
is.
The
you
know
coming
in
and
coming
out,
so
really
need
some
information
on
that
and
I.
I
C
Some
kind
of
traffic
right
I
think
you
might
have
just
said
that,
but
really
answering
these
questions
for
engineering
on
page
five
and
six
and
your
project.
You
know
it
hinges
on
these
videos.
C
C
C
The
other
angles,
especially
I,
keep
seeing
that
little
tiny
house
for
the
West
I
really
want
to
see
if
anything's
happening
to
make
it
feel
not
so
tiny
and
so
yeah
the
other
angles,
and
that
really
is
part
of
it
being
as
far
as
like
consistency
with
the
community
character.
Okay,
all.
A
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
Maybe
that's
helpful,
so
I
kind
of
feel
like
Nikki
covered
it,
but
you
know
it
is
our
job
to
read
this
and
flag
concerns,
and
so
this
is
our
opportunity
to
do
so.
This
little
project
will
be
back
before
us.
A
We
will
see
it
again
and
talk
about
the
Feet
Again
and
we
don't
need
a
response
to
any
of
this
right
now.
But
if
any
of
this
is
you
know
something
that
you
wanted
to
respond
to
right
now,
Steve,
that
would
be
fine.
N
I
no
I
I,
don't
think
so.
I
think
they're
all.
C
You
know
I
don't
mean
to
harp
on
this,
but
you
know
I'm,
seeing
things
like
two
cloves
consider
eliminating
and
I'm.
Just
not
maybe
I'm
not
getting
like
this
substantive
meaning
behind
it,
because
I'm
reading
these
sentences
and
I'm
like
oh
well,
they're
asking
for
complete
project,
redesign
and
you're
talking
about
the
engineering
comment.
G
A
C
Probably
has
one
position
and
you
know
the
city:
perhaps
the
position
is
more
urban,
I
I,
don't
even
know
but
I'm
just
seeing
these
comments
and
they
seem
like
a
significant
learning
factor
and
I.
G
J
Briefly,
we
we
have
responded
back
to
the
city
Engineers
comment.
J
J
J
We've
also
made
the
provision
for
the
exiting
traffic
to
be
a
write-out
only
from
the
garage
not
attempting
to
make
a
left.
You
know
again,
there
is
the
existing
driveway.
That's
there
now
we'll
be
reusing.
It
we're
maintaining
similar
sight
lines
as
what's
out
there
right
now.
We
have
submitted
the
initial
plans,
along
with
the
chip
generation,
memo
to
D.O.T
we're
waiting
on
their
feedback.
J
You
know
so
I
think
in
general.
We
have
responded
to
the
city
Engineers
comments.
Ultimately,
we
need
to
have
their
buy-in,
but
we
have.
We
have
resubmitted.
A
You
hear
that
great.
Thank
you
anything
else
from
border
staff
on
this
project
today.
A
None
I'd
like
to
thank
the
applicant
and
we're
excited
to
see
you
again
soon.
O
Good
evening,
David
Herrick
with
DG
Miller,
Gary
Sloan,
the
applicant
Margo
chutan,
landscape,
architect
and
John
Snyder
architect
for
the
project.
We
know
that
the
focus
tonight
is
is
on
the
part
three
and
the
consideration
of
the
secret
resolution.
We
did
provide
some
additional
material
which
I'm
prepared
to
share
with
you
if
you'd
like
to
see
that
first
or
we
could
simply
jump
into
discussion
on
the
proposed
resolution.
If
you
like
why.
O
The
message
was
clear
from
several
PRC
and
planning
board
presentations
that
you
wanted
to
see
full
Landscaping
along
Meadow,
Street,
and
so
Margot
has
done
just
that
and
we've
provided
in
this
rendered
site
plan
and
the
technical
planting
plan.
The
details
that
fully
vegetate
the
entire
Frontage
along
South
Meadow
Street.
O
Also,
we
have,
in
addition
to
rendering
the
Landscaping
along
the
street.
We've
now
started
to
really
refine
through
John
the
the
exterior
architecture
John.
O
You
can
speak
to
these
elevations
if
you
like,
but
one
thing
I'll
point
out
that
came
out
of
PRC
last
was
an
interest
in
understanding
how
the
signage
might
play
out
relative
to
pylon,
sign
and
also
to
building
mounted
sign
and
the
renderings
that
we're
sharing
with
you
tonight
reflect
the
proposed
sign
package,
which
has
been
prepared
by
Gary's
consultant,
in
conformance
with
the
sw2
signage
requirements.
O
G
M
O
Let's
I
guess
we'll
just
we'll
just
continue
along
here.
There
were
a
number
of
other
technical
drawings
that
we
put
together
that
helped
in
in
responding
to
some
questions
that
were
part
of
the
part.
Three
feaf
and
I
have
those
available
if
we
need
to
go
to
them,
but
I
guess
at
this
point.
Unless
there's
any
additional
comments
that
either
Gary
Margo
or
John
would
like
to
share,
we
can
move
into
the
consideration
of
the
secret
resolution.
A
So
if
you
guys
are
done
with
your
presentation,
thank
you
very
much
before
we
move
towards
to
part
three
I,
just
I'm
not
gonna,
go
around
the
room,
but
I
want
to
open
the
floor
for
any
member
of
the
board
or
staff
to
react
to
anything
we've
seen
today
before
we
get
into
the
you
know,
in
fact,
that's
fine
period
saying
none.
Oh
yeah,
Mitch.
B
We're
responding
to
what
we
just
thought:
yeah,
okay,
yeah,
just
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
I'm
just
wondering
in
the
rendering
Banks
I
think
it's
coming
along,
just
wondering
if
there
could
be
an
additional
Tree
on
the
Meadow
Street
side.
There
are
two
trees
that
are
probably
100
feet
apart,
I
think,
if
I'm
getting
this
tail
right,
there's
definitely
space
for
another
one.
B
So
just
think
about
that.
The
other
part
of
it,
for
me,
is
the
signage.
B
Is
there
going
to
be
a
poll
sign
here
and
if
there
is
I
I'd
like
to
see
it,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
zoning
says
about
that,
but
I
think
it
would
not
be
good
to
have
a
large
pulse
sign
right
at
that
corner
of
meadow.
You
have
to
answer
that
right
now
and
also
I
think
it
relates
to
the
signage
of
the
building.
B
There
is
one
or
there
isn't
one
and
also
the
masonry
part
of
the
building
I'm
looking
for
your
facility
up
in
in
a
triphammer
and
there's
some
nice
brick
detailing
of
that
brick
around
the
base,
there's
actually
a
brick
on
one
one
end
of
the
building
and
I.
Think
more
brick
in
this
building
would
be
better
and
also
lightening
the
blue
and
having
more
of
a
gray
color,
it's
pretty
electric
right
now
and
I
noticed.
B
A
Man
any
other
comments.
What
we've
seen
so
far
today,
Emily.
C
Yeah
hi,
thank
you
for
the
updated
renderings
I
was
thinking
about
the
signage
package
as
well,
assuming
that
there
was
no
pulse
line
since
I,
don't.
I
C
C
Like
they're
all
facing
2013,
which
is
a
good
idea,
but
that
would
be
nice
to
understand
next
time.
If
there's
any
illuminated
signs
facing
the
residential
and
then
I
agree
with
Mitch
about
the
gray
and
I
was
thinking
like
a
slightly
more
Navy,
not
not
to
degree
but
like
a
navy
blue.
G
A
All
right
any
further
responses
to
what
we've
seen
today.
E
I
agree
on
more
Break
I
personally,
like
the
color.
Clearly
there's
a
lot
of
opinions
here,
but
you
know,
but
I
I
do
think
it
looks
good
and
the
additional
landscape
is
awesome.
I
think
it's
gonna,
look
great
on
that
corner.
Thank
you.
Daniel.
A
Anything
else
all
right,
I
am
going
to
open
it
up
to
the
the
part
three
and
assuming
we're
comfortable,
we'll
eventually
look
for
a
motion
for
the
secret
resolution,
which
of
course
there
are
hopefully
some
highlights
in
the
part
three
to
find
the
things
that
are
potentially
problematic
and
I
would
actually
like
to
lead
us
off
on
the
highlighted
section
on
part.
Seven,
it's
about
anoints,
so
I
understand
that
there
was
concern
about
the
noise
from
the
vacuums
brought
up
in
PRC.
A
I,
unfortunately
wasn't
able
to
attend,
and
then
this,
and
probably
what
I
did
I
understand
is
the
response
from
the
applicant
about
the
the
vacuums
and
the
noise.
You
know
that
will
be
resulting
from
that
and
I'll
say
that
I
it's
not
this
to
me
does
not
constitute
a
quantitative
response
to
a
noise
concern.
I
mean
I.
I,
understand
that
you
know
these
are
the
same
vacuums
used
elsewhere.
A
You
haven't
been
complaints
elsewhere,
but
to
me
this
is
a
fairly
different
environment
and
I
would
love
to
see
either
some
some
specs
or
some
shielding
strategy
or
some
something
that
would
indicate
to
me
that
the
applicant
is
taking
the
noise
concern
seriously
because
I
to
me,
this
response
doesn't
do
it.
A
M
Do
you
you
should.
A
So
if
you
have,
if
you
have
something
something
to
say
about
noise,
that
would
be
fine.
I'll
say
that
you
know
the
the
kind
of
response
I'm
looking
for
I,
don't
know
can
be
ad-lived
on
the
fly,
but
you
know
if
you,
if
you
have
something
to
share
I'd,
certainly
hear
it.
M
Hear
what
I
do
so,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
and
David
I
believe
I,
provided
you
with
some
information
on
this,
so
I
went
to
the
377
Elmira
Road
site
and
we
I
had
a
decimal
meter
that
we
had
purchased
and
it's
not
an
inexpensive
one.
A
really
good
one
to
get
good
readings
and
I
turned
all
six
vacuums
on
and
then
I
move
20
feet,
30
feet
into
the
property
line
and
we
weren't
exceeding
anywhere
over
90.
M
I
can
tell
you
that
much
below
that.
The
only
time
that
I
red
90
is
when
a
truck
went
by
and
blew
his
brakes
out
on
Route
13,
it
spiked
to
91.
Second,
and
then
I
came
back
down
into
the
60
70
range.
So
I
did
do
that
I!
M
Did
it
on
the
front
of
the
building
I,
did
it
on
the
exit
end
of
the
building
and
also
on
the
vacuum
and
and
I
just
like
the
the
boy
to
realize
that
we've
never
really
had
any
noise
complaints
about
the
vacuums,
because
it's
just
not
that
that
loud
we
have
two
neighbors
directly
behind
us
at
the
377
Elmira
roadside
they're.
Pretty
close
to
us
and
there's
never
been
a
noise
concern.
A
So
I
do
appreciate
that
context.
Other
questions
and
comments
about
the
part
three
otherwise
I
can
ask
Nikki
to
lead
us
to
relevant
sections.
O
C
Could
you
help
us
sure,
I
think
and
there's
only
other
two
other
habited,
it's
just
their
answer
to
one
of
the
comments
from
City
engineering
and
whether
you
think
that
that
is
enough
of
a
medication.
A
The
nowhere
is
there
no
right
turn
where
we
ended
up.
I
I.
Remember
an
expansive
conversation
about
how
we
were
going
to
manage
this
and
I.
Remember
know
where
I
turned
was
part
of
it.
Yes,
is
that
it.
O
C
M
We'll
stripe
that
way
and
if
you,
if
we
go
back
and
just
take
a
look
at
the
site
plan,
you
can
see,
there's
ample
room
to
do
that.
So
internally,
we'll
strike
that
and
have
arrows
and
all
all
of
that.
C
Well,
I'm
just
wondering
if
yeah
it's
sort
of
related
to
this
I'm,
just
wondering
if
it
would
make
sense
to
have
a
fence
to
screen
the
parking
lot
at
the
vacuums,
the
light
and
everything
from
Six
Mile
Creek
and
the
neighbors
across
along.
You
know
north
of
your
north
of
your
access
driveway.
You
know
some
way
to
just
screen.
All
of
that.
C
I
think
you
know,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
looking
at
a
building,
they're
kind
of
looking
at
back
of
house
and
I
think
some
kind
of
fence
that
you
know
maybe
modulates
in
in
height
in
order
to
not
just
could
be
a
really
positive
thing
for
dealing
with
some
of
the
issues
living
light.
A
So
I
know
it
can
be
hard
to
hear.
Sometimes
do
you
catch
all
that
from
Lisa
we're
looking
potentially
for
screening
strategies
or
fencing
strategies
along
the
tightest
Frontage
sort
of
between
the
entrance
heading
towards
Meadow
Street,
you
know
possibly
as
a
way
to
mitigate
light
and
noise.
Does
the
applicant
have
an
initial
reaction
to
that?
Thank
you.
M
O
No,
we
we
haven't
thought
about
it
that
it's
it's
physically
possible
to
do
it.
If
it's
something
that
I'd.
I
Be
concerned
about
you
know,
a
solid
fence,
you
know
creating
more
of
a
security
issue.
People
can
hide
behind.
You
know
I,
think
in
terms
of
security.
In
that
you
know
in
the
setting,
you
really
want
to
be
able
to
have
clear
lines
of
sight.
You
know
no
pockets
where
people
can
hide
out
and
I
would
think
you
know
that
sort
of
level
of
safety
would
probably
Trump
any
sort
of
visual
impact.
You
know
that
you
would
have
towards
the
Titus
Street.
O
I
I
would
point
out
too
that
that
between
the
site
and
North
Titus,
which
is
the
the
nearest
Residence
there,
there
is
vegetative
growth
on
both
banks
on
both
sides
of
the
creek.
O
So
it's
not
while
in
winter
time
you
you
don't
have
foliage,
but
during
the
growing
season
you
do
have
two
Creek
embankments
that
are
quite
vegetated
with
mature
vegetation.
So
there
is
there
is
that
level
of
screening.
A
I
mean
I
think
we
could
take
it
down
in
slight
plan.
That's
basically
where
I'm
at
with
the
vacuums
too,
like
I,
think
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
see
specs
at
some
point,
but
we
can
see
there's
a
cycle
interview.
Okay,
any
other
outstanding
concerns
in
the
parking
briefing.
M
G
C
I
mean
you
could
just
say
you
know,
and
sometimes
you
do
this
if
there's
something
you
want
to
continue
to
explore
in
your
site
point
of
view
not
that
you
have
to
have
a
new
year,
but
you
know
with
noise
complaints,
you
know
you
can
say
we
can.
Support
will
continue
to
explore
ways
to
mitigate
noise
and
light
impact
during
silence.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
those
are
good,
edits.
I
appreciate
the
time
spent
on
the
part
three.
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
Seeker
negative
declaration?
That
is
the
board
I,
see
Elizabeth
move
I
see
Emily.
Second,
before
we
go
into
a
vote,
is
there
any
discussion
on
that
resolution?.
A
B
I
A
G
C
P
Having
some
computer
issues
so
hopefully
it
because
I
don't
think
my
video
is
working.
C
O
A
Yeah,
let's
do
everything
about
the
green
star
variants.
I
will
have
to
recuse
myself
when
we
get
there,
but
you
know
we'll
see
what
we
can
get
through
while
we're
waiting.
First
up,
it's
Cornell
media,
Guild
and
area
variance
on
604
East,
Buffalo
Street.
My
understanding
is
this
is
an
area
variance
driven
by
parking?
C
There's
one
space
provided
on
site
and
evidently
they've
been
granted
three
different
variances
in
different
years,
but
the
one
that's
really
important
is
this
was
granted
in
2012.,
where
the
bza
allowed
them
to
have
a
variance
for
three
spots
on
the
grounds
that
they
then
leased
three
spots
at
another
location.
G
C
A
So
any
questions
or
comments
on
that
variance.
Any
reactions
from
members
of
the
board.
A
A
Do
anything
else,
more
specific
that
we
want
to
say
on
this,
seeing
some
shaking
heads
do
you
need
anything
else?
That's
great
great.
G
C
This
one
is
basically
demolishing
an
existing
garage
which
you
can
see
on
the
survey,
which
is
about
11
feet
by
19
feet,
and
they
want
to
replace
it
with
a
14
by
22
Garage
in
a
similar
location,
and
this
triggers
a
few
variances,
a
rear
yard,
a
side
yard
and
then
also
the
percent
block
coverage
by
a
building
from
25
to
26.3.
Maybe
you
know
the
minimum
is
between
the
maximum
is
25.
A
C
A
All
right
so
I
hear
we
support
this,
because
we
support
owner
Investments
and
property
improvements
with
minimal
land
use
impacts
and
see
no
long-term
planning
impact.
Yeah
great
I'm
gonna
skip
green
star
because
I
have
to
leave
the
room
and
there's
an
extra
one
called
seven
cell
towers,
which.
C
Okay,
so
this
is
a
map.
Every
one
of
those
pins
is
a
location
of
a
new
small
cell
facility,
which
is
a
which
consists
of
an
antenna
transmission
equipment,
electric
equipment
and
they're
all
mounted
on
either
existing
or
Replacements
in
the
same
location,
I
say
with
utilities,
so
they
bat.
You
know
this
is
the
first
type
of
application
like
this
we've
gotten,
where
it's
like
seven
locations,
small
cell
on
utility,
poles,
and
they
because
of
some
recent
changes
to
our
ordinance
the
last
few
years.
C
They
all
require
variances,
because
our
ordinance
does
not
allow
new
new
cell
phone
new
cell
type,
new
cell
facilities
within
250
feet
of
residence,
so
this
yeah,
so
these
all
need
a
variants
for
that
they
look
like.
Let
me
just
show
you
what
they
look.
G
I
I
G
C
This
is
this:
is
it
it's
a
existing
or
replacement
all?
It
is
an
antenna
up
top
and
a
cabinet
and
a
meter
on
the
bottom,
specifically
what
it
will
look
like
this
will
be.
The
bottom
of
this
box
is
about
eight
feet
from
the
ground,
and
the
bottom
of
the
meter
is
five
feet
from
the
ground
in
the
next.
In
a
tree
line.
A
So
can
I
ask
what
the
intention
of
the
ordinance
is,
because
I
am
fine
with
these
cell
towers,
but
clearly
we
have
an
ordinance
against
them
and
I
can't
tell
if
it's
for
real
reasons
or
woo-woo
reasons,
and
it's
like
I
I,
don't
know
how
to
interpret
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
C
Well,
the
ordinance
was,
you
know,
I
think
we're
in
between
the
ordinance
was
I,
mean
I,
think,
anticipating,
5G
and
and
but
then,
when
it
was
written,
it
was
written
to
apply
to
everything.
So
the
the
city
can't
when
a
applicant
applies
for
a
one
of
these
facilities.
We
can't
you
know
the
FCC
is
the
one
that
regulates
the
radio
waves
and
you
know
the
correct
equipment
and
the
city
only
has
so
much
Authority.
C
So
we
can
look
at
the
design
of
it
and
we
can
look
at
the
location
of
it
to
a
certain
extent.
But
if
the
location
that
prevents
them
from
achieving
their
coverage
goals
that
they're
allowed,
they.
A
C
C
G
C
C
Other
carriers
will
yes,
I
mean
other
there.
Well,
you
know
it's
very
it's
interesting.
If
you
go
out
and
look
at
the
utility
poles
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
G
C
Utility
poles
all
right,
so,
yes,
other
carriers
would
likely
come
in
and
then
when
they
come
in,
we
also
our
ordinance
also
looks
at
one
thing
that
you
get,
that
is
preferred
is
if
they're
co-located
so
having
the
same
carrier
on
the
same
utility
pole.
C
I
D
A
Infrastructure
is
okay.
Does
anybody
not
want
to
say
that
Elizabeth.
A
You
would
elaborate
okay,
so
I'll
say
that
I
am
totally
and
completely
ambivalent
on
this
one
and
would
be
comfortable
saying
something
like
Eric
said
or
Nothing
at
All.
Probably
matters,
okay,
all
right.
So
unless
there
is
a
strong
push
in
this
room
to
say
something
I'm
going
to
say
we
say
nothing
Lisa.
Is
there
any
problem,
we're
going
to
run
into
here,
just
say
no
just
say
nothing.
C
A
That's
where
I'm
at
okay,
so
I
think
that
takes
care
of
that
we
do
have
one
variance
left
and
I'm
going
to
leave
the
room
for
that
one
before
I
leave
the
room.
I'll
just
go
disclose
that
I
am
a
boy
you
bring
star.
I
have
intentionally
avoided
any
information
about
this
particular
sign
package
and
I,
won't
say
anything
else.
Here
we
go.
Oh
and
Eric.
Do
you
mind.
D
C
And
it's
for
signs
of
course
yeah!
Let's
get
it
sorry,
that's
gonna
happen.
This
is
for
green
start,
it's
for
science,
so
the
top
sign
that
you're
saying
with
the
with
the
tomato
and
then
the
the
green
star
with
the
tomato
and
my
other
one.
Those
two
are
okay,
with
the
sign
variants.
You're
allowed
to
have
two
within
this
Zone
and
then
it's
the
bottom
signs
down
down
there
before
that
they're
Counting
I.
Believe
that's
two,
so
it
would
be
four
in
total
and
also
more
square
footage.
So.
P
C
Well,
it's
supposed
to
be
60
square
feet
of
signage
in
that
zone,
and
this
is
73.2.
G
D
I
just
also
point
out
I
mean
this
location
has
suffered
immensely
from
the
street
being
closed
for
months
and
months.
So
I
think
if
anyone
deserves
to
be
given
a
little
bit
of
a
break.
It's
dislocation.
C
G
A
P
All
right,
Jason,
Demarest
architect
for
adbro
development,
108,
110,
College
Ave
project-
is
the
William
we've
seen
it
before
share
my
screen.
Now:
okay,
let's
just
jump
in
you-
know
34
unit
apartment
building,
Redevelopment,
but
I
think
the
focus
is
really
the
sunken
patios
on
the
front
and
the
exterior
lighting.
So
I
was
just
going
to
jump
into
those
to
give
you
an
update
on
a
few
little
minor
changes
to
that.
P
So
what
I
have
here
is
the
ex
the
previous
rendering
from
from
last
month
and
then
and
the
new
one.
What
what
I've
done?
You
might
not
quite
see
that,
but
the
courtyard
walls
have
have
dropped
to
open
them
up
a
little
bit
and
18
inches,
and
so
the
Landscaping
is
dropping
a
little
bit
there.
P
But
let
me
just
go
through
a
little
bit,
so
this
is
the
previous
rendering
I've
I've
now
shifted
the
the
lighting
really
just
to
light
up
the
landscaping
and
to
down
light
it
rather
than
up
light,
which
is
a
common
way
to
to
light
up
the
Landscaping.
So
you
can
see
a
subtle
wash
on
the
building.
P
That's
toned
down!
It's
really
directed
more
straight
down,
rather
than
angled
in
a
little
to
wash
the
building,
so
very
subtle
light.
We
just
think
it
will.
You
know
you
think
about
this
time
of
year.
You
know
it's
dark,
you
know
in
the
late
afternoon,
really
it
just
it
just
would
add,
add
character
and
and
some
safety
to
to
the
the
building.
And
then
this
is
not
the
kind
of
lighting
that
needs
to
stay
on
overnight.
P
It's
a
it's
an
accent
light,
so
you
know
we'd
be
open
to
you
know
talking
about
that
and
so
I'll
just
run
through
some
of
the
renderings
before
and
then
after
you
can
see
the
the
bush
in
the
foreground
just
dropping
down
just
the
front
entry.
Everything
sunk
in
just
a
little
bit.
I
want
to
move
a
little
a
little
faster
through
this
just
to
get
to
the
the
patios.
P
That's
the
back
doesn't
change,
and
so
you
can
see
here
now
the
the
patio
is
up
front
before.
Let
me
go
back
so
before
and
after
and
and
then
here's
a
overhead
straight
on
view.
So
before
and
after
so
it's
very
subtle
change,
but
the
big
impact
is
The.
Patio
here
is
just
brings
those
walls
down
and
makes
it
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
nicer
down
in
those
areas.
We
do
think
this
will
be
a
nice
amenity
space.
P
You
know,
rather
than
just
having
a
window
wells,
you
know
it's
a
place
to
to
get
outside
and
you
know
have
a
table
in
the
nice
season
and
you
know
hang
out
outside.
So
so
that's
really.
The
change
I
can
show
you
some
of
the
basis
of
that
I've
shown
this
before.
This
is
actually
it's
a
document
out
of
the
Catherine
Commons
proposal,
but
they're
referencing
119
to
125
College,
Ave,
238,
Linden,
and
then
here's
that
you
know
this
is
literally
right
across
the
street.
P
So
they've
basically
filled
up
the
front
yard
with
with
stew
and
sunken
access
ways,
so
it's
actually
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
now
so
that
that's
really
where
that
came
from-
and
you
know
there
is
obviously
the
the
economic
argument
to
we
need
to
get
those
lower
Apartments
to
make
the
the
project
work
so
kind
of
like
this.
This
bird's
eye
view
here
a
little
bit
more
room
in
this
inner
Courtyard.
P
It
has
like
an
extra
three
foot
shelf
in
there
and
that's
because
of
the
indent
in
the
building,
so
I
think
I
think
maybe
I'll
leave
it
at.
That
is
for
the
design
updates.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Let's
get
a
quick
reaction.
What
we've
seen
I'm
not
going
to
do
roll
call,
but
anyone
who
wishes
to
questions
or
comments
on
the
presentation,
otherwise
we'll
get
into
the
part
three.
E
A
quick
comment
about
the
sun
in
Courtyards
I
mean
it's
a
slow,
but
they
kind
of
are
what
they
are
they're,
certainly
better
this
way,
but
for
the
ones
that
that
basically
have
the
balcony
in
the
upstairs
apartment
right
above
them,
it
would
be
worth
exploring
some
kind
of
a
more
translucent
balcony
surface
material
to
allow
light
in
because,
essentially
you
have
it
almost
entirely
covered.
E
There's
a
way
of
doing
this
at
an
angle
where
you
prevent
upskirting
as
they
call
it
or
you
know
it
can
be
very
controversial
but
yeah.
Otherwise,
you
have
this
a
sunken
Courtyard
with
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
just
want
to
just
Point
again
the
idea
of
lighting
the
actual
walls
of
the
building
and
how
you
know
just
cautioning
us
we're
gonna
go
in
that
direction.
That
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
that,
and
is
that
something
we
want
to
see
in
residential
right
because
who's
there
value
to
it,
and
anyway,.
C
Because,
normally
we
wouldn't
want
any
extra
lighting,
but
then
trying
to
walk
that
area
after
the
five
in
the
winter,
like
I,
didn't
feel
very
safe
because
I
couldn't
see
two
feet
in
front
of
me,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
good
Street
lighting
at
all
right
now,
there's
no
siding
there,
because
everything's
been
removed,
that
there
will
be
lighting
well,
I
I,
don't
mean
just
that
straight
I
mean
any
other
streets
in
that
neighborhood
all
the
way
to
Bell
Sherman.
C
C
Have
this
Courtyard
as
the
means
of
like
men
and
egress
I
figure,
the
ones
in
the
northern
South
probably
have
other
I
see
other
windows,
but
maybe
the
middle
one
only
has
that
and
I
I
just
don't
know
that
I
can
get
on
board
with
an
apartment
at
that
location.
Looking
at
a
concrete
wall
below
the
ground,
like
despite
the
economics
of
it,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
bad
model
to
set
precedent
in
college
town.
C
C
A
Oh,
it's
I
mean
we
don't
need
a
response
to
that
tonight,
but
I
think
the
applicant
should
look
at
the
you
know.
The
egress
concerns,
as
voiced
about
the
the
basement
units,
and
it
sounds
to
me
like
the
studios-
are
more
concerning
than
the
other
units.
A
So
that's
something
for
the
applicant
to
chew
on
before
the
next
time.
We
see
you
other
questions
and
comments
on
this
are
on
what
we've
seen
before
we
get
into
part
three.
C
C
A
Everyone,
let's
move
into
the
part
three
and
I'm
gonna-
ask
Nikki
to
you,
know,
write
us
the
area
that
require
our
particular
attention.
C
The
on
page
five
of
the
thief:
there
is
the
tdmp
very
short,
concise.
C
C
A
A
C
A
So
this
as
written
I,
see
reasonable
for
the
lot
cartridge
variants
for
the
degree
that
I
imagine
that
we
would
stick
with
this
language.
If
it,
you
know,
came
before
us
for
a
recommendation
to
bza
next
month,
but
I
think
it's
worth
reviewing
that
language
and
seeing
if
you're
comfortable
with
it.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I,
see
that
as
a
net
Improvement
I'm
seeing
some
nods
yeah
is
there
a
way
to
say
that's
a
net
Improvement
other
than
saying
that.
B
A
Yeah
no
I
think
that's
fair,
so
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that,
prior
to
the
BCA
recommendation,
we
would
like
to
see
some
flushing
out
of
the
rear
yard
landscape
plan,
just
because
we're
gonna
end
up,
presumably
saying
that
that
is
working
as
a
buffer
for
the
encroachment
on
the
air
rear
yard.
So
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
back
that
up
a
little
more
substantial
anything
else.
We
wanted
to
look
at
in
the
part
three
well.
C
With
the
rear
yard,
too,
how
tall
is
that
retaining
wall?
We
gotten
details
about
what
it's
made
out
of
and
how
it
interacts
with
yeah.
P
G
P
A
Hear
that,
but
that
grade
is
causing
problems
for
you,
yeah,
so
I,
don't
know
that
we
totally
have
an
answer
for
the
beer
guard
setback,
yet
I
think
we'll
probably
revisit
that
when
it
comes
up
with
VCA
recommendation
and
I
think
to
the
extent
that
we
can
have
some
flushing
out
of
the
rear
yards
mitigation
strategy.
That
would
be
helpful
anything
else.
We
want
to
talk
about
on
this
project
or
this
Project's
part
three,
seeing
none
anything
important
staff
saying
none.
A
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
good
night
and
we'll
see
you
next
meeting.
Presumably
all.
A
Like
that,
I
think
takes
us
through
all
of
the
work
open
the
floor
for
old,
new
business
and
reports
for
anyone
who
has
some.