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C
Hello
here
we
go
hello,
it
is
March
10th
at
8
33
a.m,
and
we
will
call
to
order
the
March
10th
meeting
of
the
planning
and
development
board
project
Review
Committee.
We
will
start
with
introduction.
Sam
could
I
start
with
you.
C
C
And
I'm
Rob
I
am
the
board
chair
and
there
may
be
other
members
who
join
us
as
we
go,
but
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
our
first
project:
Alpha
Phi
Alpha
at
105,
Westbourne
Lane.
E
E
E
B
C
My
camera
pardon
me
no
worries
when
you're
ready
take
it
away.
E
Well,
let's,
let's
share
the
screen:
we
we
think.
E
That
we've
We've
addressed
most
of
the
all
the
items
and
we
actually
are
interested
in
any
additional
comments.
Just
as
an
update,
we
do
have
a
draft
slip
formulated.
E
Tj
Miller
has
been
in
contact
with
the
village
regarding
the
rain
Garden
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site,
and
we
haven't
really
gotten
any
comments
back.
That
would
medically
change.
This
I
know
Frank's
working
on
some
of
the
storm
water
details
and
I.
Think
in
the
the
last
Thief
information
that
we
we
provided,
the
city
we've
gotten
the
bike
rack
located.
E
C
Thanks
as
I
recall,
things
were
relatively
okay.
The
last
time
we
saw
this
and
I
don't
remember
a
lot
of
comments,
but
I
want
to
check
in
with
Staff
first
to
see
if
there's
things
I'm,
forgetting
we
want
to
make
sure
we
cover
today.
Was
there
anything
that
was
outstanding?
You
know
big
questions.
B
E
We
haven't
gotten
any
definitive
official
word
from
the
the
from
City
engineering.
We
do
know
that
the
village
is
is
resistant
to
in
disturbing
their
Swale
upon
Wyckoff,
which
is
why
we
haven't
included
the
sidewalk
in
our
plan.
C
A
Well,
I
think
you
know
we
have
to
document
what's
been
discussed,
it's
not
under
the
city's
jurisdiction
to
require
sidewalks
in
another.
You
know
municipality.
So
as
long
as
we
document
that
and
show
that
you
know
I
think
we
just
I
think
it's
peop,
it's
a
desired
thing.
The
city
has
asked
for
that.
We
are
doing
what
we
are
required
to
do,
to
try
to
coordinate
that
and
facilitate
that.
A
But
if
it
doesn't
work,
then
that
isn't
the
responsibility
of
the
planning
board
and
so
we'll
just
keep
trying
to
push
on
it
and
see
where
we
can
get
and
I
could
see
it
being
conditioned.
If
we're,
if
it's
unresolved,
that
you
know
to
continue
to
work
with
the
village
to
you
know
see
if
there's
an
option
for
a
sidewalk
or
something
like
that.
B
Sorry
because
I
think
city,
partly
in
the
city
and
partly
in
the
village
right
yeah,.
C
That's
gotten
complicated,
but
it
sounds
like
we
can
move
forward
with
our
preliminary
and
final
sort
of
regardless
of
where
that
sits.
When
it's
go
time
so.
A
B
Maybe
I'll
just
I
can
check
in
with
the
I'll
check
in
with
engineering
George,
just
in
the
in
the
meantime
this
month
and
then
yeah
I
think
it's
fine
for
preliminary
and
finals
I
plan
and
provable
to
see
we're
there
and.
A
If
you
haven't
been
in
touch
with
Brent
Cross,
Nikki
I
will
forward
you
what
he
has
said
to
me,
and
you
know
just
for
reference.
Yes,.
C
Great
so
that'll
be
sort
of
where
it
is
when
the
time
comes
and
we'll
react
accordingly.
In
the
resolution,
I
want
to
check
in
with
Daniel
Correa
a
board
member
who's
just
been
able
to
join
us.
Do
you
have
any
concerns
on
this
project
or
things
you
want
to
make
sure
we
address
for
the
preliminary
and
final
at
the
next
meeting.
F
No,
no
major,
no
major
comments
or
concerns.
I
know
that
earlier
on,
we
had
asked
about
the
sort
of
load-bearing
treatment
on
the
grass.
The
lawn
is
that
something
that
that
the
applicant
I,
you
know
it
doesn't
that
the
drawing
doesn't
show
that
degree
of
detail,
but
is
that
something
you're
still
pursuing
I
know?
We
had
asked
for
maybe
a
sample
or
a
section
of
what
exactly
that
was
or.
C
I
I
think
that's
something
that
we've
definitely
talked
about
before,
but
seeing
something
on
that
just
as
we
button
things
up
would
be
helpful,
either
a
sample
a
drawing
some
sort
of
detail.
That
makes
sure
we
understand
what
it
is.
We're
approving
in
that
particular
spot
for
the
the
permeable
pavers
will
do
anything
else.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
address,
because
you
know
I
think
we
all
want
this
to
be
easy.
When
the
big
meeting
comes.
G
Hi
thanks,
you
may
have
addressed
this
since
I
came
a
little
bit
late,
I
apologize,
George,
I,
think
Mitch
asked
last
time.
If
we
had
a
percentage
pervious
versus
non-pervious,
do
we
do
we
have
that
in
our
pocket,
Nikki
for
the
for
Seeker
well,.
B
A
little
bit
unclear
to
me
just
because
I
was
the
addition
versus
the
subtraction
of
impervious
and
purpose,
just
because
you
know
if
you're
putting
permeable
pavers
online,
it
was
permeable
before
so
that
was
the
only
confusion
with
that.
But.
E
I
I
believe
we've
we've
clarified
that
on
I
think
the
drawing
is
c203.
Okay,.
C
So
it
sounds
like
I'm,
not
hearing
big
concerns
and
that
things
should
be
fine.
When
we
get
to
the
next
meeting.
There
is
a
request
for
additional
detail
on
the
actual
permeable
paver
unit
that
you're
using
just
to
make
sure
we
understand
that
and
there's
going
to
be
some
work
on
the
part
of
the
city
and
the
applicant
to
figure
out
what
the
sidewalk
situation
will
be
may
or
may
not
have
final
resolution
on
that
when
it's
time
for
us
to
to
work
through
the
approvals
on
this.
H
Waiting
on
anybody
else,
no
I
think
you
know
we
got
Noah
and
US
proxy
knows.
H
C
H
It
away
well
I
think
you
know.
In
general,
we
we
heard
some
comments
at
the
last
meeting.
We're
working
on.
You
know,
responses
and
some
visuals
to
better
show
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
site
in
the
project
and
I.
Think
Noah
has
maybe
a
couple
photo
angles
that
we
would
like
to
just
run
by
you
and
get
your
feedback
on
before
we
finalize
the
visuals
based
on
these
angles.
I
So
this
is
one
of
them.
The
the
building
would
be
roughly
in
the
lawn
area
here
and.
I
A
If
this
doesn't
work,
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
in
general,
I
think.
What's
really
important
is
to
do
like
a
street
level.
So
you
see
both
both
whatever
angle
I
mean
whatever
other
angles
you
want
to
show
are
fine,
but
we
don't
need
one
like
just
seeing
the
street
and
what
it
looks
like
next
to
the
building.
So.
H
I
I
I
D
I
E
I
A
little
you
know
we're
gonna,
try
to
do
a
photo
match
and
make
sure
the
building
is
situated
realistically,
but
and
they
might
be
kind
of
sketchy
views,
in
other
words,
we're
not
using
these
as
like
marketing
renderings
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was.
That
seems
fine.
C
A
J
A
I
Perfect
yeah
yeah.
Sorry
we'll
do
some
some
material
call
outs
so
that
you
can
see
the
relationship
between
the
two,
but
that's
good
to
know
that
you're,
okay,
with
the
sort
of
sketchy
views
and
then
the
line,
drawing
will
will
definitely
take
care
of
that.
C
J
Can
we
do
a
few
updates
on
that?
Just
to
let
you
know
with
that
we
did
the
Mike
Thorne
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
my
brain
is
tired
and
Tim
log
are
working
on
our
I
guess:
license
easement
for
the
little
area
of
the
the
Promenade.
That's
on
city
land,
they're,
working
on
that
they'll
get
back
to
us.
They
have
all
the
materials
applications
and
and
I
think
the
one
app
Rob.
The
thing
that
came
up
was
about
the
trail.
J
The
trail
has
been
an
omnipresent
and
trying
to
what
we
were
struggling
because
our
engineer
has
pointed
out
many
times.
This
is
a
bill
site.
So
if
you
go
up
the
street,
there's
a
Switchback
that
allows
you
to
get
to
the
black
diamond.
We
don't
have
the
luxury
of
that
slope,
believe
it
or
not.
That's
really
steep,
but
we
are
hyper
Steep
and
we're
a
fill
site.
You
can't
build
on
that
type
of
material,
we're
not
giving
up
because
I
want
my
trail,
but
it's
not.
J
H
Lisa
made
some
indication
that
that
may
trigger
talking
to
comma
Council
or
something
like
that
and
I
did
look
back
through
the
Pud
there's
nothing,
there's
nothing
on
the
Pud
in
the
zoning.
At
least
that
refers
to
the
trail
at
all.
So
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
so.
A
J
A
C
B
B
Yeah
and
Rob
is
talking
about
speaker
so
and
Link
you
are
mentioning
this
is,
that
was
for
the
building,
that's
existing
now,
and
the
condition
which
is
right
too,
but
also,
we
believe
we're
gonna
have
to
amend
Seeker,
because
this
is
a
change
because
of
the
new
building,
because
you're
going
to
have
foundation
and
it's
going
to
be
very
different
than
the
not
very
different
but
it'll
be
different
than
the
Cottages.
So
we
will
include
the
Feats
with.
A
A
J
Yeah
as
a
narrative
for
the
switch
from
The
Cottages
The
Cottages,
we
loved,
but
it
was
not
an
efficient
use
of
the
site.
It's
very
difficult
to
build,
so
we
Consolidated
and
it
gave
us
more
sight-
and
it
was
a
just-
a
better
use
of
the
site.
Doing
one
Foundation
One
access
one
civil
footprint
and
that's
why
we
did
it.
It
just
made
more
sense.
B
Sure
yeah,
that
makes
sense
and
we'll
just
we'll
just
need
to
amend
the
speaker
just
for
the
environmental
review
review
part
which
Lisa
said
you
know
just
that
we
go
over
that
for
all
of
us.
C
G
I
think
everything
was
covered.
I
was
going
to
ask
again
about
the
trail,
so
it
sounds
like
we'll
wait
and
see
in
just
those
views.
I
think
those
views
are
gonna
help
us
a
lot,
but
I
mean
the
idea
of
consolidating
the
Cottages
into
one
building.
I
think
makes
sense.
It
actually
feels
more
like
the
building
just
to
the
north
of
it
already
in
size,
yeah,
so
so
I'm
on
board,
with
the
concept
yeah
and
excited
to
see
those
views.
F
Yeah,
my
questions
were
going
to
be
about
the
trail
as
well.
Otherwise,
I'm
you.
F
Comments
for
the
time
being.
A
I
just
want
to
say
like
if
you're
still
proposing
the
trail,
please
put
it
back
on
the
drawings.
If
that
changes
in
the
future,
then
we
can
have
that
discussion.
J
This
came
up
when
we
were
talking
with
Rob
fell
DeWalt
and
our
people
from
the
building
department.
We
are
doing
this
and
I
think
at
your
suggestion,
Lisa
almost
an
imperative.
This
is
two
projects,
two
permits
and
we're
incentivized
to
get
building
Cliff
Street
Retreat.
We
re
we're
we're
geared
and
we're
at
the
gate.
J
So
is
there
anything
that
this
committee
needs
to?
We
want
to
get
our
building
permit
for
407,
not
for
501,
but
for
407.
C
A
Man,
I,
just
I,
want
to
remind
the
board
that
you
approve
this
project
three
years
ago,
but
the
approval
expired
and
unfortunately
we
don't
have
a
provision
to
extend
different
extension
wasn't
interested.
So
if
you
have
seen
this
before.
K
K
B
A
K
C
K
K
K
Going
to
zoom
in
Lisa,
so
in
in
2020,
the
board
approved
this
site
plan.
We
haven't
changed
it.
We
haven't
changed
the
elevations
that
you
previously
approved.
The
building
is
located
in
an
area
of
the
parking
lot
between
the
PetSmart
and
the
building
that
has
the
Chipotle
in
it.
It
provides
a
pedestrian
connection
all
the
way
across
and
back
to
the
shopping
center
patio
area
out
front
sidewalks
all
around
and
the
area
is
currently
just
blacktop
and
asphalt.
So
it
really
fills
in
the
line
along
the
main
drive
here.
K
C
Okay,
let's
just
go
around
the
room
and
get
opinions
and
see
what's
before
us,
Emily
can
I
start
with
you.
G
Sure
I
remember
this
project
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
thing
to
to
be
replacing
parking
with
some
retail
space
and
to
be
adding
store,
Frontage
along
it,
says,
shopping
center
entrance,
but
I
forget
where
that
that
street
is
called
and
with
sidewalks.
This
seems
still
seems
like
the
right
thing
to
do
three
years
later:
I
guess
for
our
meeting.
G
It
would
be
great
to
go
through
all
the
elevations
and
the
reasoning
because
I
know
we
have
new
board
members
that
didn't
see
it
three
years
ago
and
we
can
I,
don't
see
a
problem
with
it
passing,
but
I
think
we
can
just
go
through
the
jog
our
memories
and
go
through
the
reasoning
behind
pedestrian
access,
but
yeah
no
questions.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah
I
fall
in
the
bucket
of
board
member.
That
was
not
involved
in
the
initial
project,
but
I
am
I.
Am
here
now
so
I
agree.
This
is
fantastic
right,
less
parking,
more
functional
space,
the
only
thing
again
without
having
been
involved
in
the
original
process
is,
you
know
more
sort
of
more
permeable
space
around
the
sort
of
planted.
E
F
I
presume
that's
what
the
sort
of
spotted
area
on
the
on
the
plan
view
is,
if
possible,
more
trees.
But
again
these
may
be
things
that
were
part
of
the
original
discussion
already,
but
that's
what
I,
what
I
would
have
asked
most
likely.
K
Yeah
and
we
provide
landscaping
around
the
building
and
trees
along
the
road
and
the
area
out
front
is
now
to
our
patio,
which
you'll
have
Planters
and
outdoor
seating
to
really
allow
people
to
sit
and
make
the
area
more
pedestrian
friendly
and
at
the
claim,
commission
meeting
I
will
walk
through
the
entire
project,
like
we
did
back
in
2020.,
brilliant.
G
I
did
just
think
of
one
thing,
you
know,
since
we
saw
you
three
years
ago.
We
have
no
FEMA
flood
maps
and
I'm
sure
this
would
come
up
at
the
building
department,
but
we
may
want
to
head
it
off.
Does
is
your
propose
location
affected
by
those
maps,
and
does
that
mean
you
would
have
to
raise
the
building?
That's.
C
A
K
We're
dealing
with
two
retail
tenants
and
they're
going
to
go
into
the
the
elevation
that
you
previously
approved,
we're
not
asking
to
do
salvation.
It's
not!
It's
not
I,
understand
what
you're
saying
some
restaurants
that
specifically
have
their
own
architecture.
They
want!
That's,
not
the
situation.
It's
going
to
be
more
like
the
building
out
front,
where
we
do
the
architecture
and
their
signs
just
go
up,
and
you
know
on
on
the
architecture
we
we've
designed
and
laid
out.
K
So
that's
what
we're
working
with
here
so
I
can't
release
their
names
right
now,
but
it's
not
going
to
change
the
architecture
that
you
previously
approved
or
that
I'm
showing
on
the
plan
and
I.
Remember.
We
worked
through
this
building
I
think
through
three
meetings
so
that
it
really
maintains
attractive
four-sided
architecture
all
the
way
around
and
we're
not
changing
that
at
all.
C
B
C
B
So
I
will
start,
but
please,
as
always,
stop
me.
If
you
have
any
questions,
it'll
be
another
pretty
light
agenda,
we'll
do
the
usual
dinner
review.
B
We'll
have
some
approval
a
minute
public
comments,
Board
of
fun
and
something
that's
not
in
here,
because
it
was
just
confirmed
this
week
is
we
will
be
doing
a
sketch
plan
for
the
Dot
site
that
the
Old
Dot
site,
683
3rd
Street
and
I'm,
assuming
I,
have
never
been
stuck
to
the
board
when
this
has
happened,
but
I'm
assuming
that
will
be
at
the
beginning,
Lisa.
A
A
B
So
the
first
project
up
is
the
one
that
we
just
heard
heard
about
that
commercial
infill
building
the
new
building
that
you
had
approved
three
years
ago
and
they'll
be
coming
back
for
the
whole
kitten.
Caboodle
they'll
have
they've
already
posted
and
sent
notification
for
public
hearing
and
then
we'll
look
at
the
preliminary
insights
plan.
Approval
and
I'll
actually
get
we'll
delete
this
because.
B
To
do
that
yeah
same
thing:
yeah,
it's
the
same
thing,
yeah
yeah,
so
I
can
just
delete
that
in
real
time
here
all
right
and
then
then
we
go
to
Cliff
Street
retreat.
B
Okay,
now
we're
not
going
to
do
it
and
they
will
also
be
having
another
public
hearing
just
because
it
has
changed
so
they've
posted
too
and
then
we'll
review
the
sticker,
and
as
we
mentioned,
we
probably
need
to
amend
it
to
include
the
new
multi-family
building
and
then
Alpha
Phi
Alpha.
We
are
ready
for
the
potential
preliminary
and
final
approval
and
then
zoning
Appeals
Sam.
Would
you
like
to
tell
us
anything
about
the
donating
pills?
I
know
the
first
two
are
just.
D
Yeah
sure
the
first
two
are
gonna
be
happening
at
the
same
time
on
the
815
South
Aurora,
Street
and
they're
both
placed
right
next
to
a
residential
building.
D
The
reason
that
they're,
coming
through
on
two
different
appeals
is
because
the
individual
Wireless
carriers
wanted
them
to
be
on
two
different
appeals,
but
it's
just
gonna
be
some
antenna
being
changed
out
and
then
109
to
111
Valentine
place
is
an
area
variants
I'm,
sorry
I'm
blanking
on
exactly
what
the
area
variance
is
for
eign.
B
Because
it
was
probably
not
going
to
be
granted
the
variances,
so
they've
been
working
on
it
and
now
they're,
going
back
to
the
bza
with
a
different
variants.
I
think
they
they
lowered.
It
I
think
what
they
did
same
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
they
they
have
a
adjacent
property
that
they
purchased
and
they're,
adding
more
parking,
yeah.
D
B
C
C
Please
please
anything
else.
We
want
to
talk
about
or
think
about,
adding
the
old
new
business.
We
have
the
time,
so
it
would
be
a
reasonable,
reasonable
agenda
to
tax
some
things
onto
if
we
decided
that's
something
we
wanted
to
do.
Did.
F
We
settle
on
the
date
for
the
retreat
in
May.
I
was
able
to
change
my
my
flight,
so
I
will
be
available
on
the
11th.
If
that
helps.
A
A
So
the
preferred
date
for
the
group
did,
you
say,
is
the
11th.
A
I
I
have
a
meeting
till
5
30,
but
I
can
do
it.
No
I
can
do
it.
Yeah
I'm
good
I'm,
good
on
the
11th
yeah.
C
Great
I,
don't
see
anything
else,
go
go
ahead.
A
Well,
you
also,
we
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
during
the
an
under
old
new
business
about
what
we
want
to
do
during
the
retreat.
You
also
have
some
time
for,
for,
if
you
want
a
presentation
from
somebody,
you
know,
if
you
want
to
learn
something
new,
you
know
you
think
about
that
or
learn
more
about
what
like
I
thought.
It
was
great
to
have
Mike
come
last
month,
yeah.
That
was
really
great,
and
you
know
what
was
really
good
about.
A
F
Do
have
a
follow-up
for
Mike's
presentation
that
was
great
I
agree,
I
learned
a
ton
and
my
house
is
right
on
the
Fall
Creek,
so
I,
you
know
clearly
there's
a
small
wall
which
I
won't
mind
coming
in
front
of
my
you
know,
houseboat,
which
is
fine,
I
I
was
wondering
if
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
with
us
being
involved
or
aware
of
these,
like
you
know,
Cornell
Studio
Projects
right
like
it
does
the
board
ever
get
involved
at
the
very
early
conceptual
stage.
F
A
A
B
A
G
So
my
husband
took
a
tour
of
Iron
Works
yesterday
for
marketing
and
business
different
reasons,
retail
on
his
end,
but
we
have
that
scheduled
and
we
couldn't
all
get
together
right
or
did
I
just
miss
it.
A
To
you,
yeah
yeah
I
can
ask
the
the
developer
and
also
we
could
probably
do
a
hard
hat
tour
of
the
ithacan
because
they
are
almost
done.
We
could
do
that.
G
B
A
Yeah
when,
when
our
when
the
Arnot
project
comes
in
we'll
probably
do
want
to
do
a
coordinated
site
tour,
because
it's
so
big-
and
we
also
want
to
get
you
up
to
what's
now
being
called
southworks.
If
you
haven't
already
been
there,
because
that's.
A
G
C
C
G
A
B
C
On
the
great
letter
and.