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A
C
A
A
Please
refrain
from
speaking
from
the
audience
and
applause
or
cheering
will
not
be
allowed,
and
please
silence
your
cell
phones.
Does
any
member
of
the
board
have
any
expertise?
Communication
on
this
case.
E
So
the
hardship
is
that
this
lot
is
50
foot
wide
by
125
feet.
It
requires
a
60
foot
wide
minimum
and
that
is
the
hardship.
That's
creating
both
the
setback
on
the
setback
requirement
request,
as
well
as
the
lock
coverage
request.
I
know
that
the
staff
had
mixed
feelings
about
the
lock
coverage
request
that
I
would
like
you
to
consider
the
following
the
first
things
I
did
try
to
do
some
research
in
advance
of
this.
E
E
E
The
requirement
for
a
two-family
drawing
in
that
rn2
zoning
district
being
restricted
to
35
lot
coverage
is
really
disproportionately
burdensome
when
you
compare
it
to
multiple
family
dwellings
in
that
same
r,
m2
zoning
district
because
think
about
it.
If
you
drive
east
of
a1a
up
and
down
1st
street
or
2nd
street
they're
allowed
to
build
three
units
on
these
same
50
by
125
foot,
lots
and
they're
allowed
to
cover
up
to
65
of
the
lot.
E
E
Look
at
this
example:
I'm
making
you're
promoting
with
this
and
there's
a
lot
of
those
three
family
vloggings.
When
you
drive
up
and
down
the
beaches
of
a1a,
when
you
look
at
all
those
three
family
developments,
what
we're
doing
is
promoting
excessive
density
when,
if
you
could
allow
us
to
stick
to
a
two-family
dwelling,
we'd
be
promoting
a
better
quality
of
life
via
a
lower
density
dwelling.
C
C
Yeah
you
can
make
that
argument,
but
I
would
push.
E
You
know
really
promoting
what
we
would
like
to
do
in
jacksonville
beach
it
just
it
doesn't
make
sense.
In
our
opinion,
you
could
you'd
be
cramming
in
one
unit
on
the
back
access
via
the
alley,
the
vegans
on
the
front
and
you've
seen
all
those
kinds
of
different
designs
out
there,
but,
but
even
when
you
fit
into
the
setbacks
required
if
we
were
to
maximize
that,
you're
still
we'd
still
be
back
in
here
asking
for
a
lot
of
coverage.
E
G
Yeah
so
first
thing
based
on
the
comprehensive
plan.
There's
a
maximum
density
per
acre-
that's
allowed
in
this
case
would
be
20
units
per
acre
based
on
the
location
of
property.
Given
their
lot
size,
they
actually
couldn't
do
three
units,
regardless
of
their
limit
of
density.
They
can
only
do
two,
so
there's
really
no
way
to
get
to
three
units
on
this
particular
piece
of
property.
G
However,
to
point
the
applicant
made
our
code
and
it's
something
I've
been
trying
to
work
on
for
you
guys
on
our
code,
allows
for
a
two
unit.
Multi-Family
most
municipalities
have
a
minimum
of
three
units
to
achieve
an
apartment,
so
to
speak.
Here
we
do
a
lot
of
two-minute
multi-family,
but
the
difference
being
that
those
would
have
to
be
limited
to
condos
or
apartments
versus
a
two-minute
or
a
two-door.
G
Sorry,
a
two-family
dwelling
is
a
fee,
simple
product
that
can
be
sold
so
they're
different
housing
stocks,
so
to
speak
as
a
fee
symbol.
G
Typically,
those
have
a
a
yard
and
things
associated
with
their
privately
owned,
whereas
a
an
apartment
would
be
a
shooting,
with
an
association
of
some
type
between
those
two
owners
to
take
care
of
the
property.
It's
a
different
product,
and
so
the
logic
I
think,
was
to
have
a
different
relationship
with
the
property.
As
far
as
that
coverage
goes.
E
Yeah
I
mean
we
we've
looked
at
that,
but
it's
not
it's
not
financially
viable
in
the
market,
we're
in
right
now.
What
does
that
mean?
Sorry.
D
E
You
expand
on
that.
Well
by
the
time
you
calculate
the
price
of
a
lot
cost
of
construction,
where
we
all
know
is
just
gone
crazy
to
be
able
to
turn
around
and
make
a
reasonable
profit
and
settle
that
to
christian's
point
be
simple:
where
you've
got
actual
homeownership
here,
it
seems
to
me,
like
that's,
a
better
promotion
than
being
forced
to
build
a
free
unit
in
this
instead
of
an
apartment
to
be
a
condominium,
and
I
just
don't
think
that's
that's
what
we
want.
A
B
H
Who
owns
this
property?
There's
a
for
sale,
sign
on
the
fundraising
property
right
now,
so
we
have
no
idea
in
the
neighborhood
who's
asking
for
the
bearings,
the
seller
or
the
buyer,
and
that's
one
question
we
weren't
notified
about
this
meeting.
That's
that's
real,
quick,
but
and
as
far
as
using
garages
in
the
alley,
the
people
that
use
the
allen
for
park-
and
I
happen
to
live
on
the
island.
H
All
those
people
who
use
the
alley
for
egress
and
exit
their
property
faces
the
app
in
front
of
their
house
is
they
have
no
access
to
the
street,
so
I
would
request
if
you
do
grab
some
bavarians,
make
them
in
12th
avenue
south,
like
your
property.
Next
door
does
on
on
the
corner
here,
because
it's
a
street
the
alley
is
one
way
one
way
or
one
way,
the
other.
You
can't
you
know
it's
congested
at
the
one
time
my
house
and
the
property
in
question
were
one
piece
when
the
owner
sold
it,
they
separated.
H
So
I
wound
up
at
the
house,
but
my
house,
my
dining
room,
is
about
two
people
in
the
property
line
on
that
side
on
the
east
side,
so
I
would
request
a
ten
foot
set
back
there
because
we're
facing
the
ocean
and
that's
going
to
increase
the
wind
velocity.
If
you
put
us
that
close
and
that'll
put
it
that'll,
put
the
building
seven
feet
outside
of
my
house.
H
So
if
you're
gonna
do
do
this,
you
can
put
10
feet
on
one
side
and
five
feet
on
the
other
side,
because
you're
going
to
knock
that
house
down
anyhow
over
there
or
if
you
needed
some
more
space,
there's
30
city
variants
in
the
front
and
everybody
uses
the
parking
front
lawn
and
everything
you
could
take
a
20-foot
front
set
back
and
make
it
15
and
it
wouldn't
increase
the
problem,
and
there
are
some
in
the
alley.
There
is
a
like.
He
said,
a
three-story
three
unit
building,
that's
built
there
within
the
code.
H
C
H
A
B
I
I
I
This
is
nothing
but
greed.
There
I
looked
at
their
answers
to
the
six
questions.
C
I
Yes
I'll
be
happy
to
thank
you.
For
example,
there's.
I
I
A
Thank
you.
There
was
another
card
submitted
for
agenda
item
a
of
by.
B
K
I'm
dave
willis.
I
live
at
one
two,
two
one
first
street
south
jackson,
beach
that
is
in
this
neighborhood.
I
can
see
this
property
out
my
front
door
and
I'm
familiar
with
this
neighborhood
after
that
speech.
Most
of
my
life
own
many
many
different
properties
throughout
all
of
jacks
beach.
I've
been
before
this
board
myself
and
many
houses.
K
I
want
to
say
that
this
neighborhood
in
south
jacks
beach
is
going
through
a
beautiful
renovation,
as
we
all
see
now
many
of
the
older
homes
that
served
their
purpose,
the
first
50
years
of
the
1900s,
maybe
some
new
ones
for
the
second
50
years
of
the
1900s
they're
being
now
taken
down
and
new
beautiful
homes
are
being
built.
K
We
don't
want
to
use
the
alley
if
you
build
a
duplex
and
you
have
two
garages
in
the
front
that
alleviates
that
problem
if
he
is
denied,
as
he
stated
he's
perfectly
within
his
legal
rights
to
build
a
triplex,
there
are
several
three-unit
buildings
in
this
neighborhood.
I
can
see
them
from
my
view
where
I
live.
We
don't
need
that.
We
don't
need
a
denture,
a
dip
additional
high
density.
We
need
good
development,
not
crowded
development.
This
is
a
good
use
of
the
property.
Our
beaches
is
growing,
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
K
K
K
D
He
claims
to
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
nine
property
owners,
but
we'll
ignore
that
and
just
read
his
letter
respectfully
request
that
the
application
is
denied
for
a
variance
the
overbuilding
lack
of
adequate
on-the-street
parking
and
unnecessary
strain
on
the
stormwater
training
system
has
got
to
stop
one.
Please
take
a
walk
around
the
area
have
a
sunny
day.
You
will
find
cars
parked
on
the
public
sidewalks,
which
is
a
traffic
violation
without
consequences
and
every
other
place
where
a
car
will
fit
because
of
no
accurate
parking
on
site.
Two.
D
In
so
many
previous
applications,
if
there
is
no
visible
appearance
of
any
coat
at
all
three,
the
city
replaces
the
storm
water.
Excuse
me
the
main
storm
water
training
system
under
1st
street
south
with
a
52
inch
main,
and
we
were
told
by
city
engineer
after
completion,
that
the
capacity
of
the
renovated
system
is
at
its
limit
and
that
the
drainage
committed
mitigation
on
our
property,
a
moat,
continues
to
be
mandatory.
D
D
I
attended
the
planning
board
meeting
that
approved
the
four
townhouses
development
on
13th
avenue
south
the
approval
was
granted
notwithstanding
that
the
driveways
on
the
plan
were
shorter
than
most
cars
sold
in
the
united
states.
Today
there
was
no
concern
by
board
members
president
about
any
obstructions
of
city
sidewalks.
D
A
A
A
Okay,
if
the
applicant
would
like
to
come
forward
and
address
any
of
the
comments
made
during
the
public
through
the
public
hearing.
E
E
It
was
mistakenly
interpreted
by
staff
to
be
44.
I
apologize
that
I
didn't
type
it
so
when
I
pointed
that
out
to
the
staff
they
allowed
me.
E
The
second
thing
regarding
the
letter
I
mean
that
he's
making
all
the
all
the
read
he's,
making
all
the
points
and
the
reasons
why
we
should
be
trying
to
do
two
units,
rather
than
what's
going
to
end
up
happening
to
this
lot.
Three
units
and
he's
worried
about
excess
capacity
on
the
storm
drainage
system.
He's
talking
about
the
parking.
E
If
you,
if
you
notice
the
cycling
you'll
see,
we
have
not
encroached
on
the
rear
setback,
we're
going
to
have
nice
deep
driveways,
so
I
think
it's
a
win-win
for
him
compared
to
what
some
of
these
other
ones
they're,
these
multiple
family
runs
are
being
built
and
where
they're
crowding
the
alleyways
and
they're
just
they're,
just
crowding
everything.
So
I
hope
you
respectfully
request
our
request.
We're
looking
forward
to
your
response.
A
A
A
G
Yeah
so
there's
kind
of
a
two
two
points
that
the
first
is.
The
land
development
code
requires
five
thousand
square
feet
minimum
for
two
units
and
an
additional
thousand
square
feet
for
each
unit
thereafter.
G
So
under
the
development
code
generally,
it
would
seem
like
they
have
a
plan,
but
the
current
plan
also
limits
density
based
on
anchorage
and
given
the
size
of
a
lot,
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
achieve
a
full
three
units
under
the
density
calculations,
so
they're
they're,
very
close
they're
off
by
a
couple
hundred
feet,
at
least
based
on
my
quick
calculations
here,
but
they
would
not
be
able
to
issue
you
three.
G
You
can't
variance
your
way
out
of
comp
plan
requirements
which
basically
relieved
from
the
comp
plan,
so.
A
G
I
mean,
I
think
it
would
be
good
anyway,
because
it's
not
really
under
the
criteria
of
the
variance
right,
but
yeah
I
mean,
obviously,
without
you
know,
being
able
to
do
a
full
evaluation.
I,
like
quick
complications.
I
don't
think
they
give
you
three
units
regardless.
If
they
didn't
want
to
seek
three
units,
they
would
run
into
issues
with
providing
parking
because
you
have
to
have
two
parking
spaces
for
each
unit.
There
would
be
more
complications
with
that.
A
C
A
G
Per
unit,
or
so
with
that
the
building
alone
will
be
about
25
percent
of
that
coverage
at
the
minimum
size
and
then
with
driveways
and
things
like
that.
They
may
approach
35,
but
it's
feasible
to
do
without
relief
from
wide
coverage
and
they
can
go
up
to
35
feet
so
they
could
potentially
have
you
know
2400
square
feet
per
unit
if
they
did
three
stories.
C
C
G
D
D
A
B
John,
yes,
yes,
jeff
schuler,
yes,
todd
smith,
yes,
alexi.
D
Okay,
so
the
motion
is
then
to
approve
voa
21-10012.
D
Okay,
so
I
would
then,
let
me
restate
it
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
boa
22-10012
to
approve
the
side,
yard
setback
of
7.5
feet
and
not
approve
coverage
of
50
percent
of
what
coverage
of
50.
A
B
John
marlon,
yes,
yes,
todd
smith,
yes,
gonzales.
A
Yes,
since
the
applicant,
your
request
for
a
side,
yard
setback
of
7.5
feet
and
loop
10
feet,
minimum
has
been
approved
and
your
request
for
lock
coverage
of
50
in
lieu
of
35
maximum
has
been
denied.
A
B
A
Thank
you
and
yeah
sure
once
you
get
back
to
the
podium,
if
you
could,
please
tell
us
the
nature
of
your
hardships.
J
So
the
variance
was
actually
written
incorrectly.
I'm
seeking
45
in
lieu
of
42.7,
not
35.,
all
right.
So
there's
two
documents.
One
is
the
one
with
the
pictures.
The
other
one
is
some
drawings
calculations,
I'm
just
going
to
start
reading
from
the
top
I'm
requesting
25
percent
coverage
of
the
42.7
that
was
granted
to
me
in
2006.
J
J
This
setup
tends
to
make
you
when
you
park
on
this
two-car
garage
you
get
out
of
your
car
and
your
car
is
on
concrete.
But
when
you
get
out
you
step
on
grass
and
that's
my
number
one
complaint
with
most
driveways,
it's
only
16
feet
wide,
so
the
grass
also
tends
to
get
worn
out
and
dies
from
the
constant
extra
foot
traffic,
which
then
makes
it
turn
into
mud
when
it
rains.
J
The
picture
I
currently
have
pine
straw
in
the
past
to
keep
the
dirt
to
a
minimum.
So
if
you
take
the
other
document,
one
of
the
calculations
right
here
turn
the
second
page
and
there's
some
renderings
of
what
the
driveway
upper
left
is
what
the
driveway
was
going
to
be.
You
can
see
there's
proportionately
two
cars,
two
standard
sedans,
four
door,
sedans
parked
next
to
each
other
without
a
space
between
them.
So
you
don't
dent
the
car
next
to
you
and
you
get
out
you're
on
the
grass.
J
So
I
took
the
driveway
and
took
it
out
to
the
outside.
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
driven
by
the
house,
but
it's
a
detached
garage
in
the
front
of
the
house
and
the
house
sits
behind
it.
So
I
took
the
drive
with
the
outside
of
the
physical
garage
structure
and
I
left
the
parking
pads
where
the
car
sits
empty.
The
void
and
I
was
going
to
do
artificial
turf,
so
my
turf
subcontractor,
oh
the
second,
drawing
the
upper
right
hand
corner
that's
what's
currently
in
existence.
J
J
So
I
planned
to
just
use
crushed
granite
one
day,
george
knight
drove
by
and
I'm
unrelated
to
my
job
and
struck
up
a
conversation
and
just
asked
in
passing.
What's
going
to
the
parking
pass
and
I
said
cross
granite,
and
he
asked
if
I
knew
that
the
variance
was
required
for
that
and
I
said
well
I
do
now.
J
I
knew
the
code
required
a
drivable
surface
and
it
could
not
be
regular
grass
or
dirt.
I've
known
that
for
forever.
I
just
did
not
know
required
bearings
to
be
any
rock.
So
what
I
had
originally
designed
for
the
house
was
a
solid
driveway.
What
I
ended
up
doing
was
lessening
my
lock
coverage
by
putting
two
pervious
parking
cabs.
J
J
J
J
Two
point:
three:
four:
two,
a
little
over
two
percent
is
what
I'm
asking
for
additional.
So
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
for
that
is
starting
high
and
I
hopefully
walk
out
low,
but
I
recently
acquired
a
bunch
of
reclaimed,
brick
from
a
potion
front
demolition
that
we
just
did,
and
I
thought
this
would
be
a
perfect
place
to
use
them.
So
I
figured
it
would
look
nice.
J
If
the
board
says
no
the
extra
coverage
after
what
I'm
about
to
explain
to
you,
then
I
would
at
least
like
to
be
granted
a
variance
or
crushed
granite
in
the
parking
gap,
so
that
all
brings
us
to
this
this
meeting.
So
the
other
thing
is
on
this
drawing
right
here.
The
bottom
right,
that's
an
option
too
that
I
could
do
and
still
be
within
my
42.7.
J
However,
that's
not
a
continuous
solid
surface
to
the
garage
to
the
dripping
to
the
garage,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that
qualifies,
if
I
would
need
variance
to
do
that,
I
do
not
have
to
get
a
very
extra
variance
to
do
the
strips
that's
an
option.
I
don't
know
if
that's
requires
experience
to
talk
to
george
mine
about
that.
So.
J
I'm
not
one
to
ask
I'm
on
set
on
page
two
of
this
document,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
for
things
that
I
don't
believe
are
justified
so
below
I'm
going
to
explain
why.
I
think
this
property
deserves
a
little
extra
bit
of
percentage.
J
The
number
one
thing
people
talk
about,
and
it
was
exactly
what
we
were
talking
about
in
the
last.
The
last
applicant
is
water,
rain,
rain,
water,
storm
water,
runoff,
I've
installed
a
22
plus
thousand
dollar
underground
water,
storm
water
management
system
on
the
whole
property,
it
channels,
100
of
the
roof,
rain
water
to
two
underground
and
one
surface
retention
basins.
The
system
the
entire
system
consists
of
three
separate
systems
that
work
independently
during
light
to
moderate
rainfall
and
integrally
integrally
together
during
times
of
heavy
rainfall
or
power
outages.
J
So
now,
on
this
other
driveway
diagram
turn
the
page
and
you'll
see
my
map
of
the
drainage
system.
It's
actually
unbelievably
impressive.
If
you're
into
that
sort
of
thing,
it's
probably
the
only
house
in
all
of
jacksonville
beach
that
has
a
system
like
this
to
manage
the
roof
run
off
water.
I'm
a
civil
engineer
by
education,
masters
and
bachelors
in
civil
engineering.
J
So
this
stuff
is
what
tickles
my
fancy.
So
that's.
Why
that's
one
reason
I
did
it
so
the
systems
one
and
two,
if
you
look
at
the
map
of
the
of
the
drainage
systems,
you'll
see
the
garage
in
front
and
then
there's
a
space
in
between
on
the
left
and
right,
you'll
see
in
purple
nyloplast
basin,
not
sure
if
you
know
what
an
island
class
basin
is,
but
every
municipality
in
the
entire
country
uses
those
for
their
stormwater
management
throughout
the
city,
and
I
use
that
here.
J
That's
the
that's
the
level
of
product
that
I
use
to
manage.
The
stormwater
they're,
the
north
and
south
systems
are
on
the
sides
of
the
house.
They're
independent
one
one
another,
and
each
system
directs
approximately
two-fifths
of
the
roof
runoff
to
a
nylon
class
basin
with
a
12-inch
diameter
pipe.
This
drawing
says
10
inch,
but
they're
actually
12.
J
and
it's
attached
to
the
nyloplast
basin
with
a
rock
bed
underneath
for
infiltration.
So
if
you
can
imagine
this
vertical,
it's
probably
this
deep,
the
whole
thing's
about
four
feet:
deep
and
it's
12
inches
round
cylinder
goes
in
the
ground
at
the
bottom
of
it.
There's
a
13
foot,
long
12,
inch,
diameter
pipe
and
underneath
that
pipe
is
two
foot
of
rock.
So
this
is
built
exactly
the
way
municipal
municipalities
do
highways,
do
and
all
that's
wrapped
in
fabric,
so
dirt
can't
infiltrate
it,
and
so
all
the
roof.
J
J
So
all
that
water
goes
to
the
bottom
of
the
pipe
and
if,
if
the
system
ever
gets
overwhelmed
by
water,
there's
a
sump
pump
in
the
nyloc
space,
you
can
either
choose
to
pump
the
excess
water
to
the
street.
It's
not
really
the
streets
it's
on
in
the
front
yard,
but
it
will
end
up
filtrating
into
the
street
or
you
can
choose
not
to
turn
the
pump
on
and
by
either
not
choosing
to
turn
the
pump
on
or
the
power
out
goes
out.
J
The
water
backs
up
into
the
system
and
there's
emergency
overflow
pipes
that
go
back
to
the
back
of
the
lot
and
close
to
a
basin.
That's
built
around
the
pool.
So
if
you
turn
to
page
three
of
this
dialogue
document,
unfortunately
I
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
rotate
some
of
these
photos.
So
you
have
to
turn
the
page
to
see
them
right
side
up
it'll.
Give
you
an
idea
of
how
intricate
the
system
is.
J
So
system
three
is
an
underground
and
surface
retention
basins
surrounding
the
pool,
the
top
of
the
pool,
I'm
going
to
say
this
statement
ahead
of
time.
J
The
lot
has
42
inches
of
fall
from
the
street
to
the
back
of
the
lot,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that's
insane,
that's
an
insane
amount
of
fall,
so
you
have
to
build
a
house
level,
and
so,
if,
if
I
were
to
build
a
house
level
with
the
street
at
the
back,
I'm
42
inches
out
of
the
ground,
but
you
generally
build
your
house
up
out
of
the
ground.
So
at
the
back
of
the
lot
I
mean
I'm,
the
back
porch
is
like
right
up
to
here.
J
J
This
point
is
42
inches
below
the
street.
The
street
is
exactly
level
identical,
not
even
not
even
a
fraction
of
an
inch
difference
at
each
point.
This
is
30
inches
below
the
street
42
inches
below
the
street,
which
means
this
from
here
to
here.
Slopes
12
inches
in
50
feet.
That's
a
lot!
So
this
red
line
represents
a
little
garden
wall
and
you
can
build
garden
walls
without
you.
Don't
have
to
have
an
engineer
permitted
in
jacksonville
or
jack's
beach,
but
it's
it's
great
level
here,
it's
at
the
grave.
J
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
wall.
It's
just
like
this
tall
at
this
point
here
it's
flush
with
the
ground
and
as
it
traverses
around
the
pool,
the
wall
stays
level,
and
so,
at
this
point
it's
out
of
the
ground,
maybe
18
inches
or
so
so
what
I've?
What
I
accomplished
with
that
is
for
two
things:
one
you
can
walk
around
the
pool
and
you
stay
level
with
the
pool
the
whole
time
walking
around
the
pool
two,
that
little
basin,
that
little
wall
created
a
retention
basin
and
so
the
rear
of
the
house.
J
So,
like
I
said
it's
quite
an
elaborate
system
and
I've
been
over
there
during
torrential
downpours
and
I've
turned
the
pump
on
I've
turned
the
pump
off
turn
the
pump
on
it's
beautiful.
It
keeps
up
with
the
water
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
water
to
get
the
point
of
need
to
turn
the
pump
on
when
you
turn
it
off.
J
Everything
flows
to
the
back
and
I
have
yet
to
see
the
back
get
even
remotely
overwhelmed.
You
know
if
you
walk
on
walk
on
grass
and
it's
like
completely
soaked.
You
can
kind
of
get
your
shoe
up
about
that
high,
that's
about
how
how
bad
it
got,
but
the
wall
a
little
mini
wall
around
there,
there's
six
inches
between
the
top
of
the
wall
and
the
dirt
around
the
pool,
so
water
would
have
to
get
six
inches
deep
before
it
goes
over
the
wall.
J
Okay!
So,
on
this
page
of
this
document,
I'm
on
item
b,
so
why
did
I
install
such
an
elaborate
system?
I
don't
think
you
could
find
anybody.
J
That's
ever
lived
in
jacksonville
because
you
spent
22
thousand
dollars
on
a
roof,
runoff
training
system
in
waterman
and
guaranteed
that
so
I
didn't
do
it
for
profit,
guaranteed
that
so
there's
a
42
inch
drop
from
the
front,
the
rear,
it's
literally
impossible
to
get
the
rain
water
to
the
street
and
then
david
mcdonald's,
a
good
friend
of
mine.
He
he
said,
don't
I
understand
it's
impossible
do
the
best.
J
The
neighbor
to
the
south
of
me
he
was
going
to
try
to
be
here,
is
not
he
used
to
have
flooding
issues
on
his
side
yard
and
all
of
his
down
stop
water
would
gather
up
against
his
house
and
then
filter
underneath
his
deck,
and
you
walk
up
there,
mosquitoes
everywhere.
So
during
the
grading
and
installation
process,
I
recreated
his
side
yard
and
I
included
his
most
contributing
downspout
into
my
system.
J
J
J
J
J
So
in
closing,
if
runoff
water
is
what
you're
concerned
about
by
adding
lock
covers,
and
please
put
that
concern
to
knees
due
to
the
system
I
installed,
and
I
I
completely
get
it
if
your
position
is
against
the
variance
for
a
different
reason,
a
principle
whatever
it
may
be.
J
If
you're,
against
the
variance
for
the
additional
occurrences,
I
beg
you
to
give
you
the
variance
for
stone,
because
that
was
my
original
plan
and
again,
the
only
reason
I'm
asking
for
this
is
because
I
have
to
be
here
anyway.
I
might
as
well
ask-
and
I
wanted
to
show
you
my
my
underground
water
management
system,
to
show
you
what
the
extent
that
I
went
through
to
keep
my
water.
J
So
the
other
reason
that
I
wanted
to
do
this
now
is
to
avoid
a
future
homeowner
just
doing
this
on
their
own
in
the
dark
night.
I
know
you,
this
is
that's
the
drill
people
just
do
it.
You
look
in
the
backyard
and
some
people
have
100
of
their
backyards
with
papers,
so
some
homeowner
in
the
future
the
house
is
for
sale.
J
If
I
put
something
that's
not
papers
there,
they
may
just
do
it
and
I'm
going
to
tell
them.
If
you
do
that
and
jack
speech
sees
it,
they're,
probably
going
to
tell
you
to
take
it
away
to
remove
it.
That's
going
to
cause,
I
mean,
in
my
opinion,
a
waste
of
resources.
I
know
jack
speech
will
win
because
it's
the
code,
but
if
you
give
me
this
little
variance
for
this
little
tiny
chin,
then
that's
gone.
That
can
could
ever
be
an
issue.
J
There's
literally,
nothing
left
on
the
lot
that
anyone
would
ever
want
to
cover
and
if
you
care
to
drive
by
it,
it's
it's
an
absolute
beautiful
house,
but
there's
a
there's,
a
putting
green
there's,
artificial
turf
in
various
places
of
the
lot
that
that
you
know
water
flows
through
that
beautifully
and
underneath
there
is
a
big
rock
bed.
It's
got
probably
60
voyage.
That
holds
any
other
surface
runoff,
but
there's
literally
no
surface
runoff,
because
it's
just
what
all
of
all
the
other
waters
captured.
J
So
the
the
percentage
that
I'm
asking
for.
If
you
go
back
to
this,
you
have
a
calculation,
the
table
page.
I've
highlighted
in
pink
it's
an
additional
167
166.69
square
feet.
I
knew
I
was
going
to
be
so
close,
so
I
took
every
I
measured
everything
to
the
two
decimal
places
and
this
is
the
true
calculation
of
what's
covered.
A
Thank
you.
Does
anybody
have
questions
for
this
apple
dude
you're,
the
chair?
Did
you
apply
for
the
original
variance?
I
did
what.
J
Was
the
basis
of
his
grant
that
I
was
seeing
that
it
was
a
square
foot
yeah?
So
so,
when
we
bought
the
lot,
we
had
no
idea
that
there
was
an
alley
in
the
back.
No,
I
didn't
even
know
there
was
an
alley,
let
alone
that
was
abandoned.
So
in
the
meeting
you
know,
john
hayes
brought
up
the
fact
that
he
said
he,
the
board
didn't
even
know
said:
hey
you
guys.
You
know,
there's
a
there's
an
alley
in
the
back.
He
actually
has
six
more
feet
of
property
and
nobody
said
well.
J
That
means
your
lot
is
compliant
and
you
don't
have
a
hardship.
So
that's
that's.
Where
all
came
from
and
I
originally
asked
for
18
foot,
rear
yard
and
47
lock
coverage
or
something
like
that,
and
so
when
they
added
the
extra
six
feet,
it
turned
it
into
42.7
and
a
24
foot
rear
yard,
and
this
is
a
fun
fact.
This
lot
and
the
one
next
to
it.
J
This
one
to
the
south
are
the
only
two
lots
in
all
of
jacksonville
beach
that
I
know
of
where
you
could
build
this
particular
house
that
they're
150
foot
deep.
I
mean
150
foot
deep,
that's
like
gold,
and
so
I
was
I
was
tickled
to
death
when
I
got
to
variance.
I
didn't
even
know
that
there
was
a
banana,
but
it
made
this.
A
And
the
papers
that
you're,
considering
putting
in
have
you
discussed
with
this
with
the
building
department
at
all
the
using
the
type
of
papers
that
are.
J
Well,
yeah,
yeah,
you
don't
you
don't
get
a
whole
lot
of
credit.
I
could
probably
use
those
but
and
if
you've
ever
fallen
on
those
it's
a
trip
to
the
hospital
they're
they're
like
60,
grit
or
30
grit
sandpaper.
So
I
I
would
never
use
them,
but
they
work
beautifully.
I've
seen
them
work.
You
could
pour
five
gallon
bucket
of
water
and
this
goes
right
through
it.
J
I
think
over
time
they
would
get
clogged
up
personally
because
of
any
any
void.
You
know
silt
and
sand
isn't
in
the
void.
But
the
reason
why
I
was
going
to
do
brick
is:
is
this
oceanfront
home?
We
did?
We
demoed.
We
salvaged
the
driveway
and
they're
sitting
on
the
palace
across
the
street.
I
own
the
two
lots
across
the
street
and
the
homeowner
decided
I'm
not
going
to
use
them
so
now
I
either
have
to
sell
them
or
use
them
or
keep
them,
and
so
they'll
always
perfect
place.
D
B
K
I
live
at
1626th
street
south
of
jacksonville
beach
florida.
I
have
two
lots,
so
I
have
100
feet
550
feet
directly
behind
mr
hannah
and
the
other
neighbor
he
was
talking
about
actually
50
by
150
is
not
that
uncommon.
In
our
part
of
jacksonville
beach.
We
were
very
fortunate
to
have
some
deeper
lots.
K
K
K
So
I
spoke
on
his
behalf
when
he
was
at
my
house.
I'm
not
sure
if
mr
hannah
remembers
it
or
not
from
what
he
stated,
but
I
did
make
him
aware
of
the
12-foot
alley
that
was
behind
between
our
houses
and
I
let
him
know
that
the
city
had
informed
me
when
I
was
doing
my
traditional
plans
and
applying
for
my
building
permit
that
we
each
have
the
opportunity
to
use
six
feet
of
that
alley
for
our
flight
coverage.
K
So
whether
again
he
didn't
remember
that
or
not
I'm
not
sure,
but
so
many
years
later,
I
believe,
14,
13
years
later,
when
the
house
started
being
built
and
the
house,
the
layout
had
changed
quite
a
bit
and
now
there's
a
pool
in
the
backyard
five
feet
from
my
fence
sticking
up
out
of
the
ground
so
that
when
you
walk
on
this
back
full
patio
you're
staring
into
my
backyard,
I
bought
a
double
lock,
put
up
an
eight-foot
privacy
fence
for
practice.
K
K
If
you
set
a
precedence
for
45
percent,
or
are
we
going
to
continue
to
set
a
precedent
for
45
percent
every
time
one
of
these
older
homes
or
d
lots
is
built
in
bs.
Have
an
amazingly
beautiful
home
behind
us,
definitely
improve
the
neighborhood,
not
a
shadow
of
the
doubt.
The
beautiful
john
is
obviously
a
very
talented
builder
and
used
very
good
people.
He's
been
going
on
for
several
years
he's
not
going
to
tell
you.
K
Everybody
have
talked
to
compliments
the
house,
but
I
think
that's
enough
on
the
land
coverage,
but
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
will
I
will
go
with
this.
I
don't
understand
why
there's
why
there's
multiple
applications
of
forbearances
on
the
same
house
under
construction.
K
You
know
he
already
did
the
variances.
He
knew
what
he
was
building,
what
he
knew,
what
he
had
and
now
he
wants
to
go
on
and
add
more
to
it.
I
say:
if
you
go,
if
you're
going
to
give
them
the
gravel,
give
me
the
crowd,
but
don't
change
it.
Don't
change
a
lot
leverage
and
if
you
have
to
change
the
lock
covers
you
give
them
gravel,
then
don't
give
the
crowd.
K
D
I
have
no
problem
with
the
variance
I
like
being
the
neighbor
he's
done
a
great
job
on
the
house.
My
drainage
is
better
now
he
leveled
out
and
helped
me
fix
my
side
of
the
house
and
back
in
the
house
where
I
have
no
more
steaming
water.
So
since
he
built
the
house,
there's.
A
Not
many
problems
with
water
and
he
should
get
into
the
bricks,
nice
and
I'm
all
for
it.
That's
all.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who's
not
filled
out
a
speaker's
card.
Who
wishes
to
speak
at
this
time,
all
right,
sir.
You
may
come
forward
and
after
you
finish
speaking,
please
make
sure
you
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
before
you
leave
and
give
it
to
the
clerk.
But
for
now
you
may
be
sworn
in.
B
C
C
C
C
C
That
needs
to
be
addressed,
presentation
that
was
just
given.
You
guys
saw
what
he
was
talking
about.
No
one
else.
He
should
provide
slides
as
far
as
annie
gravel
to
the
east
side
of
the
driveway.
I
don't
care
no
one's
going
to
care
about
that.
If
you
look
at
jack's
beach,
you've
got
houses
with
gravel
10
feet
in
from
the
front.
C
J
Okay,
I
think
this
gym
last
gentleman
was
confused
about
density
and
lock
coverage.
He
was
thinking
about
density.
There
is
no
additional
density.
It's
a
single
family
home.
It
will
always
be
a
single-family
home,
so
the
live
coverage
issue
I
completely
get.
I
mean
nobody
can
say
that
I
came
in
here
asking
for
the
movement,
because
I
wasn't
going
to
ask
for
anything
I'm
asking
for
it,
because
I
can
foresee
a
problem
in
the
future
with
whoever
buys
the
house
now.
J
I
want
to
tell
you
scott
that
scott
tried
to
take
my
six
feet
of
my
that's,
not
true.
J
Attorneys
got
involved,
he
refused
to
take
his
fence
down
blah
blah
blah.
I
have
at
least
a
dozen,
you
know:
half
a
dozen
fu
emails
and
scott.
I
was
prepared
to
play.
J
I
wasn't
prepared
to
play
them
on
speaker
if
you
spoke
negatively
about
me
and
I
chose-
and
he
did
speak
negatively
about
me,
so
I'm
not
going
to
play,
but
I'm
not
going
to
play
them.
I
mean
fu
laden
drunken
tirades
boys
calling
me
47
times
one
night
for
doing.
What's
completely
legal
on
my
own
property,
not
a
single
drop
of
my
water
has
ever
made
it
onto
his
property,
especially
since
I
built
this
water
management
system.
J
So
if
he
thinks
that
there's
water
coming
from
my
property
on
his
lot,
that
is
a
complete
lie
and
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say
about
other
than
it's
a
complete
lie.
There's
no
one
here
to
prove
that
other
than
my
hands
raised
to
god,
and
I
know
for
a
fact
that
water
does
not
leave
my
property
jason
can
attest.
I
wish
lane
was
here.
I
think
I
fixed
both
people's
property
on
either
side
of
me
on
my
dime
and
their
properties.
Work
beautifully.
Now
so
again,
there's
no
reason
to
deny
the
gravel.
J
A
G
So
the
request
would
be
basically
for
no
paid
access.
You
typically
see
the
requirement
codes
were
paid
access
to
a
garage,
and
so
that
would
be
a
request
yeah
to
the
chair's
point.
It
wasn't
the
request
that
was
advertised.
G
B
G
Area
as
long
as
he
doesn't
receive
the
lock
coverage,
so
the
motion
wouldn't
affect
when
his
obligations
would
be
under
the
code
which
he
does
have
to
provide
paved
access.
We
don't
consider
gravity
paved
access,
so,
according
to
him,
he
has
enough
lock
coverage
to
be
able
to
provide
the
minimum,
which
are
the
ribbon
strips
for
each
parking
space.
G
So
if
you
don't
grab
the
variance,
you
would
have
to
have
payment
parking
and
the
ribbon
strips
can
do
the
only
alternative
at
this
point
unless
he
takes
up
some
other
lot
coverage
because
he
would
still
be
within
that
42.7
that
was
originally
granted.
If
you
approve
it,
then
he
could
put
any
improved,
paving
material
down
to
fill
in
the
gaps.
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
my
my
biggest
concern
is
that
the
applicant
himself
said
that
he
doesn't
need
the
fairiness.
I
mean,
I
appreciate
what
he's
saying
and
I
think
we've
all
seen-
applicants
get
approved
to
put
in
regular
strips
and
then
come
back
and
say
they
need
to
pay
the
whole
thing.
So
that's
not
lost
on
me,
but
in
his
own
words
he
said
that
he
doesn't
need
that
excess
coverage.
A
C
A
A
E
B
A
No,
the
request
for
a
lot
coverage
of
45
percent
in
low
of
35
percent
has
been
denied.
A
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
direct
your
questions
to
city
staff,
but
we
can't
discuss
something
that
wasn't
advertised
to
the
neighbors.
So
in
order
to
vote
on
something
it
had
to
have
been
advertised,
I
got
ahead
of
time.
Okay,
okay,
can
we
please
call
the
next
case.
A
Dwelling
hello,
thank
you.
As
a
reminder,
each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
when
we
open
the
public
hearing.
Does
any
board
member
have
any
exported
communication
to
disclose
on
this
agenda
item?
Okay,
I've
had
none,
no
none,
none!
I
might
have
had
none
the
applicant.
Please
be
sworn
in
to
give
your
presentation.
B
F
The
issue
is
that
we're
building
a
deck
around
the
wrap
that
would
wrap
around
the
front
of
the
home
from
the
east
side
of
the
home
around
to
the
front
home.
We
originally
provided
plans
to
the
city
and
were
the
original
set
of
lands.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
those
or
not.
I
actually
brought
the
staircase
around
to
the
west
elevation
of
the
home.
F
F
Our
plans
and
also
found
out
that
we
were
over
our
lock
coverage
by
doing
so,
and
so
we
agreed
to
in
our
plans,
remove
the
driveway
and
put
pervious
papers
which
brought
us
back
underneath
the
lock
coverage.
So
we
did
everything
we
could
to
remain
underneath
lock
coverage
to
satisfy
the
city.
We
even
brought
the
structural
components
of
the
deck
within
the
10
foot
property
line,
which
they
still
are.
F
The
the
section
in
question
is
just
a
two
foot
overhang
to
allow
for
the
staircase
to
be
able
to
reach
the
third
story,
deck
which
was
already
there
when
we
purchased
the
home
and
the
deck
actually
exceeded
the
space
that
we
are
now
putting
it
back
in
his
proposed
state,
so
we're
bringing
it
back
in
from
where
it
originally
was.
The
the
only
section
in
question
is
the
two
foot
overhang,
but
the
structural
components
are
all
within
the
ten
foot
setback.
Also,
the
west
elevation
of
the
home,
where
the.
F
The
two
foot
overhang
is
is
we're
eight
foot
from
the
property
line
and
on
the
other
side
of
that
fence,
is
the
north
shore
condominium
parking
lot,
so
we're
not
really
encroaching
on
any
other
residences.
It
is
truly.
A
A
Okay,
hearing
none,
you
can
take
a
seat
for
now
and
do
we
have
any.
D
We
have
a
speaker
part
and
we
don't
have
any
letters.
Okay,.
A
A
D
A
Okay
hearing
them
can
we
have
a
roll
call,
though
please.
C
D
Holly
and
robert
robertson
property
address
one
one:
zero
one
thirteenth
street
north
motion
to
consider
sections
34-337,
e1
c2
for
a
northern
side,
yard
setback
of
one
foot
and
a
little
five
foot
minimum,
and
it
combines
a
side
yard
setback
of
eight
feet
in
lieu
of
15
foot,
minimum
37-337,
e1
c3
for
a
year
a
rear
yard
setback
with
25
feet
in
lieu
of
30
feet.
D
A
A
B
L
L
It
has
a
lot
coverage
of
about
5100,
so
as
currently
under
the
residential
zoning.
As
of
2020,
it
says
a
single-family
dwelling
can
have
the
minimum
coverage
of
7
500.,
so
we're
already
just
short,
naturally
about
2
400
square
feet,
that's
part
of
it,
so
we
have
an
existing
glaston,
screened
enclosure
that
came
when
we
purchased
the
house
in
2003.
L
L
C
L
Right
originally,
when
you
know
over
the
last
three
years
that
has
been
part
of
a
conversation,
but
we
had
enjoyed
the
sun
room,
but
when
it
was
built,
I
don't
know
the
house
was
built
in
1985..
L
We've
had
people
come
out
and
look
at
it,
there's
no
insulation,
so
it's
very
hot
and
kind
of
throw
them
together,
and
so
it
we
do
want
to
just
put
the
same
thing
like
this
is
currently
a
glass
screened
enclosure.
It's
just.
A
Okay,
you
can
be
seated
for
now.
Do
we
have
any
speaker
cards
for
this
item
no
cards
and
no
letters?
Okay?
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who's
not
put
out
a
speaker's
car?
Who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
item?
A
D
G
Through
the
chair
just
explanation,
I
think
for
mr
true,
I
think
I
read
the
application
wrong.
I
didn't
realize.
D
A
To
allow
for
the
addition
of
a
paper
walkway
to
the
west
side
yard
and
a
swimming
pool
deck
with
existing
single
family
dwelling.
Thank
you
and
please
remember.
Each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
once
we
open
the
public
hearing
any
board.
Members
have
expertise.
Communication
on
this
item.
A
And
I've
had
none,
so
the
apple
can't
please
be
sworn
in
and
give.
B
A
Jack
speech
florida
3-2-2-5-0,
thank
you,
and
can
you
please
tell
us
the
nature
of
your
hardship
at
this
property?
Sure,
first
of
all
good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
our
story
real,
quick.
We
bought
the
house
recently,
we
bought
the
house
and
it
was
at
65
impervious
surface
to
be
sure.
C
And
we
bought
the
house,
it
was
like
we
were
not
given
any
indication
that
this
was
out
of
regulation
on
the
first
section
of
our
request.
Well,
first,
let
me
go
on
and
explain
this
a
little
bit
more,
so
our
property
is
at
60
when
we
purchased
it
at
65
impervious
surface,
we
chose
to
request
a
permit
to
install
pool.
C
We
did
that
and
to
facilitate
the
installation
of
the
pool
we
had
several
pavers
removed
for
plumbing
and
whatnot
for
the
installation
upon
completion
of
installation
of
pool,
we
tended
to
put
haters
back
down
kind
of
in
their
same
place.
C
Of
course,
the
exception
of
the
pool
and
that's
when
we
found
out
that
to
to
reinstall
the
papers
was.
C
The
pool
is,
is
not
impervious,
and
so
what
we've
actually
done
is
reduced
the
impervious
service
in
our
property.
So
I
I
appreciate
your
recommendation
for
approval
and
that,
on
the
second
section
of
our
request,
certainly
a
hardship
card
is
the
lot
size
and
there's
an
analysis,
reads
based
on
what
width
or
maybe
a
case
for
the
setback
encoder,
but
regarding
the
side
yard
setback
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
C
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
point
that
may
be
confused
in
the
staff
report.
The
walkway
setback
that
we're
referring
to
is
not
to
facilitate
a
new
behavioral
walkway.
The
setback
on
the
west
fence,
as
is,
is
zero
feet.
It
was
like
that
when
we
purchased
the
property,
there's
nothing
we've
ever
manipulated,
we
never
raised
those
papers,
and
so
the
request
we're
making,
I
believe,
is
reasonable-
is
to
maintain
the
setback
as
it
was
when
you
purchased
it.
C
So
what
it's
worth
also
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
our
neighbors
to
the
west
do
it
he's
lived
there
for
several
years.
He
could
have
he's,
never
observed
any
problems,
but
they
were
going
all
the
way
to
defense.
So
just
wanted
to
point
out
this.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
was.
A
A
Anybody,
okay,
do
we
have
any
speaker
cards
on
this
item.
D
A
A
A
C
60
is
attack
a
lot
and
if
we
take
a
look
at
what
that
translates
to,
if
it
was
a
full-sized
rs2
lot,
it
comes
out,
as
50
percent
seems
to
me.
That's
still
an
absorbent
amount
of
lock
coverage
for
a
lot
that
was
requesting
more
than
what
I
think
ought
to
be
allowed,
even
in
recognition.
The
fact
that
it
is
not
that
precise.
C
G
Just
address
the
setback
issue,
sometime
after
the
construction
of
the
house
prior
to
the
current
owner's
purchase.
These
are
the
improvements
that
were
made
all
these
noted
papers
here
that
included
this
walkway
here
and
then
walk
away
all
the
way
to
the
backyard.
G
What
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
to
basically
reinstall
the
papers
in
this
area
and
also
keep
this
portion
here
so
this-
and
this
would
be
the
two
encroachments,
but
those
of
these
were
added
as
part
of
that
improvement,
so
you
can
go
back
and
look
at
the
original
approval
for
the
house,
and
this
walkway
here
wasn't
included.
None
of
this
was
included,
so
I
think
those
are
the
two
portions
he's
referring
to
it's
not
just
this.
It's
also,
including
that
there
is
the
front
door
no
actually
over
here.
G
A
G
Out
specifically,
it
was
just
listed
as
part
of
the
papers.
I
don't
want
to
take
step
calculating
it
without
you
know
actual
measurements,
provided
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
significant
percentage.
A
A
So
the
motion
was
to
approve
the
entire
request:
correct,
okay,
hearing
no
further
discussion.
Can
we
have
a
roll
call
vote?
Please.
B
A
B
I
The
history
on
property
is,
it
was
a
commercial
bill
back
in
1984,
plus
or
minus
it
was
built,
as
is
now,
there
was
a
single
home
property
retail
and
I'm
assuming
it
stayed
that
way
for
the
entire
time
it
was
on.
It
was
purchased
by
sarah
rocco
recently
and
she
would
like
to
convert
to
use
from
a
retail
to
a
salon
which
is
slightly
different,
occupancy
classification
and
the
also
in
discussions
with
staff.
I
I
So
the
parking
lot
is
covered
fully,
there's
very
little
space
on
either
side
at
the
existing
there's,
a
pylon
sign,
and
so
what
we're
requesting
is
to
keep
their
remaining
parking
spots
and
providing
a
dumpster
location,
dumpster
enclosure.
A
Thank
you
any
questions
for
the
applicant,
yes
and
understanding
the
purpose
of.
C
I
I
K
I
Possibility
of
attendance
here,
10
to
10
12
chairs,
which
is
22
spots
and
24
spots
and
there's
not.
C
How
do
you
work
overcome
that
problem?
That's
being
created,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
I
mean,
but
if
you're
proprietary
of
a
chair,
I'm
not
just
probably
I
the
challenge
trying
to
get
past,
I
need
to
be
one
of
the
one
owner
and
have
multiple
people
and
chairs
working
with
multiple
chairs
doesn't
matter.
If
I
pay.
I
Well,
christian,
please
correct
me:
I
think,
even
a
retail
requirement
for
parking
in
that
space.
It
doesn't.
C
I
A
A
B
C
C
A
Okay,
would
you
like
to
come
back?
A
Is
that
okay,
yes,
you
will
need
to
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
and
be
sworn
in,
but
yes,
you
can
speak.
Please.
B
A
K
I
just
wanted
to
get
up
and
speak
as
a
friend
and
colleague
of
the
owner
of
the
property.
It
still
holds
amy's
turn
and
I'm
familiar
with
it
and
familiar
with
what
they're
kind
of
up
against.
K
K
Meters,
there's
four
store
fronts,
and
I
really
don't
know
how
you
make
that
work
with
the
amount
of
parking
spots,
that's
there
in
any
form
or
fashion,
without
some
sort
of
variance
for
parking.
I
also
know-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
exact
number
is,
but
within
one
block
of
that
building,
there's
like
30
or
40
public
parking
spaces
on
the
street
on
the
back
side
of
the
block
front
side.
I
I
I
A
A
I
mean
we've
had
issues
come
before
us,
where
you
know,
I
think
we,
I
think,
we've
been
able
to
evaluate
sort
of
more
modern
business
models
that
don't
necessarily
fit
with
the
parking
code
where
there
might
be
a
situation
that
you
know
we're
a
buy
appointment
only
business,
so
we'll
never
have
more
than
four
cars
in
the
parking
lot,
but
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
able
to
control
them
right.
A
G
Yeah,
so
the
probably
the
lightest
parking
standard
that
we
have
would
be
presenting
a
professional
office
which
would
be
one
space
per
300
square
feet
which
this
parking
lot
would
accommodate
the
commercial
race
that
was
previously
there
is
under
a
standard
of
1-200,
which
would
require
15
strike
spaces
because
roughly
3
000
is
working.
G
So
in
this
case
criteria
four
would
be
that
they
would
not
be
able
to
do
the
exact
use,
but
there
would
be
potentially
other
uses.
G
If
I
can
clarify
one
thing,
there
is
no
external
landscape
special
requirement
between
two
commercial
uses
on
a
parking
area.
The
only
requirement
is
between
residential
or
on
the
street,
and
the
street
is
a
pre-existing
condition
where
they
want
to
put
the
sidewalk,
isn't
a
required
green
space,
so
they
can
improve
that
without
the
variances
same
for
the
fence.
A
Okay,
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
approve
the
request,
I
believe,
can
we
have
a
roll
call,
though.
A
The
request
has
been
denied
moving
on
to
the
planning
department
report.
G
A
I
have
a
quick
question.
I
know
that
there
had
been
some
discussion
about
possibly
having
a
future
agenda
changing
the
time
of
our
meetings,
yes,
appropriate
to
ask
on
the
night.
G
I
mean
something
that
we
definitely
wanted
to
bring
forward
to
you
guys
we
just
weren't
quite
sure
how
we
were
gonna.
Do
it.
I
think
it's
something
that
the
board
can
decide.
G
A
And
I
know
there
have
been
discussion
about
it
in
the
past
and
we
kind
of
decided
not
to,
but
I
think
it's
come
up
again
because
city
council
has
moved
their
meeting.
C
Do
we
need
to
be
willing
to
probably
considered
a
familiar
visitor?
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
chance-
and
I
don't
know
how
this
goes
procedurally,
but
to
have
some
guidance
on
how
to
move
forward.
In
my
case,
I'm
happy
to
make
concessions,
because
right
now,
I'm
not
really
sure
how
to
move
forward.
I'm.