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A
B
Hi
good
evening
so
each
year
the
city
undergoes
an
independent
financial
audit
of
its
finance
of
its
records
and
the
2020
audit
was
completed
by
the
certified
public
accounting,
firm
purvis,
gray,
copies
of
the
comprehensive
anal
financial
report
and
financial
statements
for
both
redevelopment
districts
were
provided
to
council
for
review
last
week.
This
is
the
first
year
that
we
are
producing
financial
statements
for
our
redevelopment
districts.
B
C
Hello,
everyone,
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
hear
me-
I
won't
have
my
video
on
tonight
because
I've
been
in
a
bit
of
a
freak,
a
dog
walking
accident
and
it
resulted
in
32
stitches
to
the
face,
and
you
do
for
your
sake.
I
I
don't
think
anybody
wants
to
see
me
right
now,
but
I
have
a
broken
nose
that
has
to
be
surgically
repaired
tomorrow.
So
better
days
are
ahead.
C
I
think
so,
but
we're
here
to
present
the
results
of
the
the
audit-
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
bring
this
up
and
share
my
screen
with
y'all.
C
Well,
first
of
all,
I'm
ryan
tucker,
I'm
a
partner
with
purvis,
gray
and
company
megan
camp
is
also
here
with
me
from
she
was
the
manager
on
the
engagement
team
we'd
like
to
thank
ashley
and
her
accounting
team
for
their
cooperation
during
the
course
of
the
audit
being
responsive
to
all
of
our
requests.
There's
a
lot
that
goes
into
this
putting
this
to
together
and
it
helps
when
they're.
You
know
very
responsive
and
cooperative
with
us
and
helps
the
audit
go
very
smoothly.
C
So
we
appreciate
that
we
usually
bring
a
a
team
of
four
to
five
auditors
out
for
approximately
three
weeks
on
site.
Now
this
year
with
covid,
we
tried
to
dial
that
back
and
have
a
couple
people
work
remotely
this
year
and
that
worked
out
pretty
well,
and
so
we
usually
come
out
in
september
for
some
preliminary
audit
field
work
where
we
do
some
testing
and
review
of
internal
controls.
C
And
then
we
would
come
back
in
december
for
two
weeks
and
and
work
on
the
year-end
balances
and
so
forth.
And
then
we
would
go
right
up
the
financial
statements
and
produce
a
draft
for
the
for
management
to
go
through,
and
then
we
go
through
our
internal
review
process
and
now
we're
here.
The
audit
process
will
conclude
with
the
presentation
and
acceptance
by
the
governing
body.
C
As
you
know,
the
accounting
department
has
been
in
the
midst
of
an
erp
conversion.
The
utility
billing
and
the
payroll
and
fixed
asset
modules
have
not
yet
been
converted
to
munis.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
duplication
of
of
effort
that
has
to
go
on
with
the
old
system
and
the
new
system,
so
it's
just
more
time
consuming
than
it
ordinarily
would
be
and
sometimes
can
create
difficulties.
C
They
had
a
couple
of
issues
last
year.
If
you
recall
one
was
on
the
bank
reconciliation
process
that
has
been
resolved,
so
that
was
good
news,
and
but
there
is
one
more
item
that
carried
a
continuation
item
that
carries
into
this
year
that
they
are
still
working
on
and
we'll
we'll
touch
on
that.
C
C
The
city
didn't
meet
the
threshold,
so
no
single
audit
was
required,
so
that
was
that
was
good,
and
then
this
year
was
the
first
year
as
actually
mentioned,
that
florida
statutes
now
require
the
cras
to
have
a
separate
audit
report
issued
and
so
we'll
go
through
those
reports
briefly-
and
there
are
a
couple
of
additional
audit
requirements
there,
that
have
been
in
regards
to
all
the
transparency
and
accountability
related
to
the
the
cras
that
have
been
passed
by
the
legislature
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
first
we'll
go
through
the
calf
for
just
a
couple
of
highlights.
C
C
C
This
the
report
gets
sent
off
to
gfoa
and
they
go
through
it
in
detail,
along
with
another
cpa
in
practice
from
another
state
who
also
goes
through
it
to
make
sure
that
it
conforms
with
all
the
gfoas
and
government
accounting
standards.
Although
all
of
the
requirements-
and
this
has
been
a-
this-
has
been
a
long
term
project
for
the
city-
they've
gotten
this
award
for
many
many
years,
and
I
hope
to
continue
to
get
that
as
far
as
our
report.
C
This
is
one
of
the
more
important
things
in
the
document.
It's
it's
where
we
issue
our
opinion
on
the
financial
statements,
and
this
just
identifies
the
year
that
we
audited,
of
course,
september
30th,
2020,
and
some
of
management's
responsibilities
and
our
responsibilities
as
far
as
the
audit
goes,
and
our
opinion
here
is
at
the
top
of
page
two,
and
it
basically
said
that
these
financial
statements
are
fairly
presented
in
accordance
with
gaap.
So
this
is
what's
referred
to
as
an
unmodified
opinion,
the
highest
level
of
assurance
that
you
can
receive
from
a
cpa
firm.
C
Let's
see
here
next
we
have
management's
discussion
and
analysis
and
ashley
and
her
team
put
this
together
and
it
just
gives
some
highlights
of
from
financial
highlights
with
a
comparison
against
the
previous
year.
It's
only
it's
the
only
place
in
this
document.
That's
required
to
be
comparative,
and
so
it's
kind
of
nice
to
go
touch
on
a
couple
of
the
numbers
here.
If
you
look
at
total
revenues
now,
this
is
citywide.
C
You've
got
your
governmental
activities
on
the
left
and
business
type
activities
there
in
the
middle
and
then
a
total
city
wide,
and
just
so
one
thing
about
these
numbers
is:
they
are
on
the
full
accrual
basis
of
accounting.
So
not
really
like
your
budget.
The
way
you
put
together-
but
this
includes
depreciation
like
a
business-
would
maybe
do
a
conversion
process
to
get
these
on
the
full
accrual
basis
of
accounting.
C
Citywide
total
revenues
were
up
by
two
million
dollars
right
here
and
that
the
percentage
is
pretty
small
1.4,
but
there
were
increases
and
charges
for
services
about
500
000
was
due
to
an
increase
in
play
at
the
golf
course
and
then
on
the
gut.
That
was
on
the
business
type
activity
side
and
then
on
the
governmental
activities
side.
There
was
a
large
payment
in
lieu
of
parking
that
was
collected
for
a
new
development
that
was
going
in,
which
was
about
600
000
that
wasn't
there.
C
In
the
prior
year,
property
taxes
were
increased
by
about
2.6
million.
It
was
mostly
due
to
property
tax
values
going
up
and
then
also
a
reduction
in
the
amount.
The
south
end
cra
returned
to
the
taxing
authorities
compared
to
the
previous
year.
C
C
That
expenses
were
fairly
consistent
with
the
prior
year,
except
total
expenses
were
down
by
2
million.
This
is
primarily
from
the
electric
utility
power
costs
were
down
by
about
2.7
million,
and
there
were
some
significant
repair
costs
on
roads
and
streets
division
in
2019
that
you
didn't
have
in
2020,
so
that
resulted
in
the
lower
expenses.
C
Overall,
the
the
city,
of
course,
is
in
in
good
shape
and
end
of
the
year
in
good
financial
shape.
This
is
the
time
you
know
that
you,
you
need
to
have
a
strong
financial
position,
particularly
for
a
beach
community
that
has
had
back-to-back
hurricanes
and
a
pandemic.
C
It's
nice
to
be
in
stable
financial
footing,
and
that's
where
the
city
is.
If
you
want
to
see
how
the
general
funded
will
flip
over
this
is
the
general
fund
budget
versus
actual.
So
this
is
what
you
would
see
during
the
budget
process
and
the
actual
numbers
are
compared
to
budget
with
a
variance
over
on
the
right,
and
you
can
see
that
revenues
came
in
better
the
better
than
budget
in
most
categories,
except
for
taxes
and
intergovernmental,
and
then
on
the
expense
side.
C
Expenses
came
in
under
budget
in
all
in
all
departments,
so
all
the
departments
held
the
line
pretty
well.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
there
was
a
surplus
of
about
540
000,
positive
net
change
in
fund
balance
in
the
in
the
general
fund.
So
not
a
huge,
not
a
huge
change.
There.
C
Someone
have
a
question:
I'm
sorry,
oh
okay,
all
right,
there's
all
kinds
of
information
and
notes
to
the
financial
statements,
but
one
in
particular
is
on
long-term
debt
and
pretty
soon
here.
This
was
as
of
that
time,
you
really
only
had
one
more
payment
to
make
on
your
revenue
bonds
in
the
utility
funds,
so
that
has
since
been
paid
off
and
what's
left
is
your
accrued
compensated
absences,
opeb
liabilities
and
net
pension
liability.
So
no
external
long-term
debt
will
be
there
going
forward
next
year.
C
As
far
as
the
net
pension
liabilities,
we
have
to
the
actuaries
have
to
project
what
the
pension
liabilities
are
and
then
how
and
then
I
compare
that
to
what's
in
the
plan
and
the
general
plan
is
that
a
net
pension
liability
of
16.1
million-
and
that
is
about
let's
see
here-
I've
got
it
somewhere.
C
And
that
is
88
funded
and
then
the
fire
plan,
which
we
had
to
make
a
couple
disclosures
on
that
at
that
time
it
was
a
5.3
million
dollar
liability,
72
funded.
But
of
course,
we've
made
some
disclosures
about
the
converting.
You
know
closing
the
plan
and
the
city
going
to
be
paying
that
that
that
liability
off
over
the
next
10
years
with
payments
of
10
years
payments
of
700
000
roughly
so
that
that
liability
will
come
down
and
disappear
over
the
next
10
years.
C
C
It's
a
report
on
internal
control
and,
if
you
remember
this
one
from
last
year,
this
is
where
we
had
a
significant
deficiency
related
to
the
bank,
reconciliations
that
that
finding
has
been
resolved
and
there
were
no
internal
control
findings
that
were
considered
to
be
significant
deficiencies
or
material
weaknesses.
So
that
was
very
good.
D
C
In
the
management
letter
we
did
have
this
continuation
finding
here,
which
was
related
to
work
orders
in
the
electric
utility
system,
and
there
are
some
old
work
orders
that
they're
still
trying
to
work
through.
They
made
a
lot
of
progress
this
year
and
closing
many
many
of
those
out,
but
they're,
still
working
through
2018
and
2019
to
get
those
closed
out
and
depreciating
in
your
system.
C
The
ultimate
impact
was
not
considered
material
so,
but
they
are
making
good
progress
on
that
and
hope
to
have
it
cleaned
up
by
this
time
next
year.
So
management
has
gone
through
and
issued
their
response
to
the
letter.
This
is
required
by
the
the
auditor
general's
office
for
them
to
respond
to
our
our
finding
and
they've
they've
issued
their
response.
C
Next,
we
have
the
downtown,
let's
see
if
I
can
pull
this
one
up.
C
This
is
the
standalone
report
for
the
downtown
redevelopment
district.
E
E
C
Let
me
go
back
to
that
page
44
of
the
pdf.
C
C
Ashley
could
probably
answer
it.
Man,
these
are
all
just
projections,
and
you
know
maybe
ashley
might
remember.
I
don't
recall
specifically.
B
I
can
speak
to
that
so
the
intergovernmental
revenues
in
the
general
fund.
Those
are
our
state
sharing
revenues
and
with
coven
19
the
state
basically
cut
their
normal
distribution
in
half
toward
the
end
of
the
year,
because
it
was
uncertain
how
much
they
would
collect.
So
we
were
seeing
that
decrease
as
well
as
they
cut
the
remittance
to
us
in
half
for
several
months
from
may
to
june.
C
They
have
to
issue
and
prepare
mdna,
so
there's
a
full
set
of
financial
statements,
a
government-wide
conversion.
You
have
the
fund
level
statement,
there's
really
just
one
fund
for
us
to
audit
on
this,
but
actually
them
still
have
to
put
together
md
a
and
there's
a
couple
of
highlights
in
md
a
and,
as
you
can,
there's
a
two-year
comparison
in
md
a
and
so
basically
revenues
came
in
a
little
bit
better
than
last
year.
C
4.9
increase-
and
you
know
basically
because
of
property
values.
Increasing
expenses
were
down
usually
due
to
timing
of
these
infrastructure
projects
that
are
going
on
during
that
time.
C
So
that
was
the
result
for
that
particular
fiscal
year.
There's
a
whole
set
of
notes.
C
This
to
this
set
of
standalone
financial
statements,
but,
and
also
we
had
lots
of
discussions
with
management
about
what
what
what
fixed
assets
need
to
be
reported
on
these
financial
statements.
These
standalone
financial
statements,
but
what
was
ultimately
decided
was
only
the
that
the
assets
that
are
titled
to
the
to
the
cra,
which
is
some
land,
there's
some
about
6.8
million
dollars
of
land,
that's
actually
owned
by
the
cra.
C
There's
some
construction
commitments
out
there
and
the
remaining
commitment
there.
These
are,
you
know,
purchase
orders
that
are
open
essentially,
and
then
there
is
a
budget
versus
actual
statement
here
as
well,
and
it
came
in
better
than
budget
on
the
revenue
side
and
came
in
under
budget
on
the
expense
side.
For
these
these
categories,
in
total.
C
C
C
So
there
was
at
the
end
of
the
day
there
were
no
findings
to
report
in
the
management
letter
internal
control,
letters
on
that
one
on
the
downtown.
D
C
You
may
remember
that
last
year
they
had
to
return.
You
know
a
significant
amount
of
the
taxing
in
2019
tax
increment
funds,
so
that
basically
zeroed
out
those,
and
then
this
year
was
a
much
smaller
amount
that
had
to
be
returned
to
the
taxing
authorities
on
the
expense
side.
C
There
was
the
southwest
channel
improvement
project
that
was
going
on
was
going
on
in
2020.
C
B
Hello,
everyone.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
as
ryan
stated,
my
name
is
megan
camp
and
I
was
the
manager
on
this
job.
The
sas
114
communication
letter
is
simply
a
letter,
that's
required
by
the
professional
auditing
standards,
and
it
allows
us
to
communicate
to
those
charged
with
governance
certain
matters
about
how
the
audit
went
general
aspects
of
the
audit
and
the
reports
in
on
the
whole.
If
you
see
on
the
first
page,
we
discuss
the
responsibility
of
management
for
the
selection
and
use
of
appropriate
accounting
policies.
B
We
discuss
general
estimates,
the
important
or
significant
estimates
that
factor
into
the
final
financial
reports
for
the
entity
on
the
next
page.
Well,
you'll
see
the
significant
estimates
in
a
city
of
this
size
usually
extend
a
few
pages
after
that
we
discuss
an
upcoming
accounting
pronouncement
and
this
will
be
gatsby
87
related
to
leases.
B
We
have
already
discussed
potential
impacts
with
the
accounting
staff
and
they
are
in
the
process
of
determining
how,
if
at
all,
the
financial
statements
will
be
affected.
Once
this
pronouncement
becomes
effective
for
the
2022
fiscal
year
end,
we
go
ahead
and
reiterate
that
there
were
absolutely
no
difficulties
encountered
in
performing
the
audit.
You
have
a
great
accounting
staff
there
and
we
really
appreciate
all
they
do
to
help
make
everything
go
smoothly.
B
B
B
B
And
then
we
discussed
other
limited
procedures
that
we
applied
against
the
md
a
and
the
required
supplementary
information
within
the
financial
statements.
Again
we
note
that
we
did
not
audit
these
and
we
don't
provide
any
assurance
on
those
they're,
not
necessarily
included
in
the
opinion
that
ryan
gave.
B
C
C
We
could
spend
all
night
going
through
it
all,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
you
would
appreciate
that,
but
be
glad
to
try
and
answer
any
questions
you
have.
F
I
just
did
it.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
ryan
for
being
here,
even
though
we
can't
see
you
with
everything
you're
going
through
and
megan
for
this
presentation
and
ashley
and
her
team
for
working
so
hard
to
put
this
together.
It's
really
nice
to
be
a
leader
in
this
community
when
we
feel
very
confident
in
how
we're
being
fiscally
managed,
but
to
have
a
third
party
confirm
that
confidence.
So
this
is
always
a
really
interesting,
read
and
presentation.
I
just
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
goes
into
it.
F
Going
back,
we've
heard
about
the
work
orders
a
couple
times.
It
seems
like
this
might
be
ashley.
Maybe
you
can
answer
we're
kind
of
straddling
the
old
erp
and
the
new
erp
system.
Is
this
something
that
can
truly
be
resolved,
or
is
it
something
that
we're
just
going
to
kind
of
have
to
put
a
band-aid
on
until
we
get
into
that
new
system?.
F
That
sounds
like
fun.
Thank
you.
Ashley
and
good
luck,
ryan
with
your
surgery
and
hope
for
a
speedy
recovery.
A
Okay,
ashley:
do
you
want
to
just
tell
council,
especially
since
we
have
three
new
council
members,
what
the
next
steps
are
now
that
we've
gone
through
the
kafir
presentation.
B
Sure
so,
as
part
of
our
charter,
we
say
that
we're
going
to
do
an
independent
audit
and
present
it
to
council
each
year.
So
next,
council
meeting
there'll
be
an
agenda
item
for
you
to
formally
accept
the
financial
reports
for
the
city,
the
comprehensive
indian
financial
report
and
the
two
redevelopment
districts.
So
you'll
see
that
next
week.
A
A
Okay,
there
we
go
back
to
our
normal
screen.
Our
second
topic
for
tonight
is
chlorination
alternatives
for
water
and
pollution
control
plant
operations.
A
We
do
have
our
public
works
director
on
the
call
tonight
to
walk
you
through
some
of
these
issues,
but
just
as
a
very
quick
background,
the
city
currently
uses
compressed
chlorine
gas
at
each
of
our
three
facilities.
The
two
water
plants
in
the
pcp
and
public
works
is
looking
at
some
alternatives
and
with
that
dennis
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
H
Good
evening,
marion
council,
can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay.
What
you've
got
attached
to
tonight's
memo
is
two
technical
reports
that
were
produced
by
four
waters.
The
first
technical
report
involves
looking
at
chlorination
alternatives
for
the
water
treatment
plants
and
the
second
alternative,
or
the
second
report.
H
It
deals
with
the
pcp
plant
separately.
The
reason
we
did
that
is
because
pcp
already
has
a
chlorine
scrubber,
so
it
already
has
a
form
of
mitigation.
That's
identified
in
the
water
treatment
plant,
it's
actually
sitting
better
off
than
the
water
treatment
plants
are
as
of
today,
so
I'll
kind
of
forward
you
to
page
28
of
the
first
report,
which
is
the
summary
page.
H
What
I'll
look?
What
I'll
kind
of
go
through?
There
is
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
total
in
the
dollars
and
cents
and
what
kind
of
alternatives
we're
looking
at.
So
all
three
alternatives:
1a
1b
and
1c
all
involve
keeping
chlorine
gas
as
our
disinfection
alternative
and
then
trying
to
do
the
best
thing
we
possibly
can
to
mitigate
any
possible
instances
of
a
chlorine
release.
H
So,
overall,
when
you
look
at
the
total,
what
they
call
total
present
worth,
which
is
the
bottom
column,
it
pretty
much
tells
you
what
your
costs
are
going
to
be
all
in
at
the
end
of
20
years,
so
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
breakdown
of.
If
you
spend
the
money
now,
where
you're
going
to
be
and
what's
going
to,
total
cost
is
going
to
be
rolled
into
20
years.
H
What
they
did
not
include
in
these
was
some
of
the
costs
we
have
with
current
chlorination
chemical
as
well
as
future
chlorination
chemical,
which
is
not
a
huge
cost
overall
in
these
amounts.
H
What
our
recommendation
for
the
water
treatment
plant
is
to
is
to
convert
to
to
what
they
call
alternative
2a,
which
is
convert
to
utilizing
a
bulk
shipment
of
sodium
hypochlorite,
which
is
a
liquid
and
get
away
from
the
gas
completely
it's
about
a
half.
A
million
dollar
capital
cost
to
be
able
to
do
both
plants.
H
H
I
think
our
water
treatment
plant
is
at
six
and
a
half
million
gallon
produced,
but
we
only
usually
run
around
two,
so
obviously
we
don't
produce
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
in
the
event
of
expansion
or
or
total
water
use.
The
second
report
deals
with
the
same
thing
at
pcp,
since
they
already
have
a
chlorine.
Scrubber.
H
Theirs
is
on
page
24
of
the
report.
Is
there
a
comparison
chart?
So
this
is
where
we
looked
at
the
same
thing
as
switching
over
to
the
liquid
chlorine,
which
is
a
million
dollar
capital
cost,
and
the
reasoning
is,
is
because
the
amount
of
water
and
the
and
the
way
it
flows
through
the
pcp
plant
and
how
it
has
to
be
charged.
H
So
it
has
about
a
million
dollar
construction
cost
and
then
about
they
estimate
at
the
permitted
cost
of
376
000
per
year
at
the
permitted
capacity.
But
I
think
your
report
shows
the
secondary
figure,
which
is
actually
what
we
run,
and
I
don't
have
the
right
report
from,
of
course,
to
show
what
that
number
is
so
where,
as
you're,
comparing
on
the
secondary
report,
you
see
this,
of
course,
the
on-site
sodium
hypochlorite
generation,
as
well
as
the
uv
disinfection,
and
when
you
look
at
the
20-year
rates.
H
What
you
begin
to
see
is
the
sodium
bulk
sodium
hypochlorite
system,
at
a
20-year
rate,
is
pretty
darn
close
to
the
uv
disinfection.
One
of
our
concerns
with
uv
disinfection
is
it's
kind
of
like
the
latest
and
greatest
technology.
That's
out
there
there's
still
a
lot
of
questions
and
how
it
functions
and
how
well
it
functions,
and
instead
of
needing
a
million
dollars
for
the
capital
to
get
it
installed,
it's
needing
upwards
of
almost
six
and
a
half
to
seven
million
dollars
worth
of
capital
to
get
it
installed.
H
H
I
think,
if
you
look
back
in
last
year's
book,
you'll
see
that
it
was
already
kind
of
entered
into
the
water
side.
I
think
in
your
fy
23
and
I
think
we
still
plan
on
keeping
it
in
there.
H
We
would
like
to
be
able
to
try
to
to
get
through
the
design
stuff
next
year
that
we
need
to
and
then
be
able
to
actually
bring
it
into
construction
in
fy23
to
help
get
around
this
risk
as
fast
as
we
can
and
if
you've
got
any
questions
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
flip
through
and
try
to
come
up
with
any
answers
you
may
have.
E
Once
it's
brought
to
my
attention
and
the
the
risk
that
supposed
to
the
city,
maintaining
a
gas
chlorine
base
is,
is
it's
a
super
high
risk
and
if
we
were
to
have
some
kind
of
incident
happen,
which
you
know
how
murphy's
law
works,
it
could
really
be
costly
to
the
city
much
more
than
than
to
switch
over
to
chlorine.
So
I
will
be
supporting
the
switch
myself.
A
Thank
you
counselor
any
other
hands
or
questions.
If
not,
is
there
a
general
consensus
for
dennis
to
move
forward
with
placing
projects
in
future
cip?
A
A
You
may
recall
at
our
last
council
meeting
there
was
additional
information
that
was
provided
by
councillor
golding
and
the
charge
to
the
city
attorney
and
staff
was
to
go
back
and
to
evaluate
that
information
that
was
provided.
I
think
that's
referred
to
as
the
blue
text
document.
A
G
Good
evening
we
only
have
officer
tater
riley
couldn't
make
it
in
eric,
couldn't
make
it
so
it's
tonya
and
I
to
try
to
carry
the
load
this
time
around,
but
they
have
been
essential
team
members.
They
just
couldn't
be
available
tonight.
G
So
the
last
time
that
we
met
on
this
particular
ordinance
council
directed
me
to
and
asked
for
clarification
and
certainty
on
this
to
review
and
provide
our
opinions
and
or
make
revisions
to
the
ordinance
based
on
what,
as
mike
said,
we're
calling
the
blue
text
memo
which
council
member
golding
provided
that
had
blue
text,
because
that
was
the
easiest
way
for
us
to
distinguish
it
from
other
memos.
G
So
then
councils.
This
was
a
a
memo
that
was
provided
to
council
well
provided
by
council
member
golding,
and
then
mike
was
able
to
distribute
it
just
close
to
the
february
16th
council
meeting
date
and
some
council
members
explained
that
they
did
not
have
time
to
review
it
sufficiently
and
ask
me
and
the
officers
to
go
back
review
it.
G
We
attached
the
blue
text
memo
to
your
briefing
agenda
memo
tonight,
so
that
was
the
topic
for
tonight's
briefing
topic
discussion
and
we
have
attached
the
ordinance
with
our
red
line,
so
to
speak,
our
red
line,
editions
and
officer
tater,
and
I
could
speak
to
the
changes
and
responses
that
we
have
the
blue
text
document
or
the
changes
in
the
ordinance
and
then
responses
to
the
blue
text
document.
G
But
we
were
one
informed
counsel
that
we
were
also
provided
with
additional
information
subsequent
to
that
that
council
member
golding
gave
us
on
march
first
first
in
an
email
in
memorandum,
and
then
we
received
more
information
this
morning
regarding.
G
Quite
a
quite
a
few
bit
of
number
of
topics
on
this,
so
we've
received
additional
information
from
from
your
colleague
in
the
past
seven
days
that
the
officers
and
I
have
had
no
time
to
incorporate
into
our
schedule-
we
haven't
had
a
time
to
vet
it
or
research.
It
and,
quite
frankly,
we
haven't
had
any
other
time
to
even
conference
together
because
we
scheduled
the
conference
for
the
blue
text
document.
G
So
I
guess
the
first
question
is:
do
you
want
me
to,
or
would
you
like
us
to
postpone
this
again
in
order
for
us
to
provide
you
with
all
of
the
information
and
allow
for
the
officers
and
I
to
try
to
find
the
time
to
research
and
vet
that
most
recent
information
that
we
got
in
the
past
week?
Or
would
you
like
us
to
proceed
with
the
ordinance
that
was
attached
to
your
briefing
memo
and
address
the
blue
text
document
that
was
attached
to
your
briefing
memo.
I
I
guess,
when
you
say
substantial
how
substantial
we
need
to
put
this
to
bed
and
if
we
keep
having
more
and
more
memos
every
time
we
have
a
memo
to
review.
We're
never
going
to
get
this
done.
So
how
substantial
are
the
substantial?
Are
they
just
typos?
Are
they
minor
things?
Can
they
be?
I
know
you
haven't
had
a
time
to
really
dig
into
it.
Can
it
be
easily
somewhat
easily
addressed.
G
No
honestly,
it
cannot
be
somewhat
easily
addressed,
and
it's
not
it's
not
just
typos
it's
much
more
than
that.
There
are
multiple
sections
that
have
substantive,
suggested
information
and
changes
and
would
take
a
lot
of
research
and
then
as
well
one
of
the
member
emails
that
we
received
seven
days
ago.
It
was.
I
G
Yes,
that
is
possible
yeah,
it's
possible
yeah.
G
So
in
order
for
us
to
amend,
amend
it,
keep
in
mind
that
the
amendment
would
require
us
to
cross-reference
any
other
sections
or
uses
of
particular
terms.
So
amendments
in
this
regard
for
this
very
lengthy
ordinance,
isn't
as
simple
as
other
smaller
ordinances,
because,
for
example,
if
we
were
to
change
a
term
or
a
definition,
then
we
need
to
be
sure
the
way
that
that
term
or
definition
is
utilized
or
referenced
at
any
other
point
within
the
entire
chapter.
So
there
are
several
steps
to
the
amendment
in
this
regard.
G
I
suggest
that
we
go
forward
because
it
was
last
year
that
our
police
department
told
me
in
hopes
from
where
their
perspective
is
in
terms
of
their
field
work
and
the
operators
of
this
ordinance
and
the
one
and
the
staff
members
that
are
relying
on
this
ordinance.
They
told
me
last
year,
middle
of
last
year,
we
really
need
a
new
chapter
five,
so
I'm
looking
at
nine
months
later,
still
not
having
a
chapter
for
five
for
them.
G
I
F
You
I
would
like
to
piggyback
on
miss
dumont's
comments,
and
thank
you
for
for
starting
that
off.
I
think
that
we
need
to
deal
with
the
blue
memo
and
get
this
thing
up
for
a
vote.
We've
put
too
much
time
and
effort
into
this.
It's
mind-boggling
that
there's
more
and
more
information
out
there
to
come
and
I'm
sure
that
there
is,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
a
good
quality,
workable
and
enforceable
ordinance
on
the
books
and
and
let's
go
because
we
have
spent.
F
We
have
spent
hours
on
this
and
that's
nothing
to
what's
been
happening
below
the
surface,
with
our
staff
and
and
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
get
this
done.
So
I
would
say
blue
memo
and
and
let's
go
and
new
information
we
need
to
set
aside
for
the
next
time
we
address
this.
J
Thank
you
mike
just
to
explain
to
everybody.
The
additional
information
is
in
support
of
what
I
had
provided
in
the
blue
memo,
and
I
believe
I
shared
with
mike
the
information
about
the
attended
tethering,
which
I
believe
he
shared
with
all
of
you,
because
I
had
the
attended
tethering
in
the
blue
memo
as
something
that
I
feel
is
important
that
we
incorporate
in
our
code
and
at
the
time
we
had
the
briefing
on
the
25th
officer.
J
Riley
said
that
she
didn't
see
that
there
would
be
an
issue
with
incorporated
with
incorporating
the
attended
tethering,
but
to
this
date
it's
not
been
incorporated.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
why
that's
happened.
So
I
thought
that
if
this
needed
to
be
something
that
the
city
council
needed
to
provide
consensus
on,
I
would
provide
the
memo
which
mike
shared
with
you
guys.
J
J
The
other
things
that
I
sent
to
chris
today
we're
just
trying
to
get
some
clarification
because
you
know
we
talked
about
persons
bitten
by
dogs
or
cats,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
that
and-
and
mr
stokes
was
involved
in
that-
and
you
know
now
I
had.
I
just
had
some
questions,
because
when
you
look
at
it
that
whole
section
isn't
talking
about
being
bitten
by
dogs
by
dogs
or
cats.
Now
it's
talking
about
being
bitten
by
any
animal
so
that
I
have
a
question.
J
J
Already
has
this
on
the
books,
I
believe
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
the
safety
of
our
citizens,
because
dogs
that
are
attempt
that
are
tethered
24
7
are
more
likely
to
become
aggressive,
and
I
think
that's
a
big
concern.
J
I
I
looked
at
it.
I
have
no
problem
incorporating
it
into
the
code.
I
agree
it's
it's
kind
of
a
common
sense
thing.
If
you
have
a
dog,
you
don't
want
to
just
tie
your
dog
up
and
say
you
have
a
dog
out
in
the
yard,
24
7
tethered.
I
What
are
I
would
like
the
police
department
or
chris
to
note
why
it
wasn't
included?
Was
there
a
reason
why
it
was?
I
know
that
riley
said
that
we
don't
have
that
problem
right
now,
but
for
the
for
future
issues,
is
there
a
reason
why
it
wasn't
included
in
this
iteration.
G
Sure
so
tethering
the
tethering
issue
is
on
page
three
of
the
blue
text
memo
and
if
we
could
that
we
were
going
to
talk
about
it
and
officer,
tater
was
going
to
specifically
talk
about
that.
But
if
you'd
like
us
to
jump
to
that
answer,
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
officer
and
she
can
address
it,
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
in
my
conversation
with
riley
riley
mentioned
that
she's
only
had
two
calls
regarding
tethering
up
during
her
entire
career.
G
G
And
that
that
was
what
I
was,
that's
what
we
were
tasked
with
at
the
last
meeting,
so
at
least
we
can
accomplish
what
we
were
directed
to
do
for
tonight's
briefing
and
then,
if
we
wanted
to
with
council's
direction,
put
the
ordinance
up
for
first
reading
at
the
march
15th
meeting,
if
council
so
direct
and
also
council,
could
direct
us
to
have
an
additional
briefing
or
discussion
on
any
of
the
additional
information.
G
K
K
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
the
animal
reference
that
councilmember
golding
mentioned
was.
I
think
it
was
domesticated
animal
instead
of
animal,
if
I
remember
correctly
and
the
other
one
I
just
wanted
to
speak
for
a
moment
on
the
tethering
one.
I
really
would
like
to
get
that
one
put
in
just
a
little
story
behind
it
is
during
the
campaign.
I
was
actually
bit
by
a
dog
that
was
tethered
on
the
front
porch
and
there
is
no
way
to
see
the
dog
out
there.
There's
nobody
home.
K
I
didn't
really
know
the
5
29
code
at
the
time,
and
you
know
it
took
a
lot
of
digging
to
figure
that
out,
but
if
this
kind
of
attended
tethering
would
have
been
on
the
books,
an
incident
like
that
or
something
that
happened
to
me
worse
could
have
been
prevented.
So
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
that
that's
something
I
really
feel
strongly
about
getting
put
in
thanks.
G
The
first
item
is
the
definition
for
animal
shelter
and
we
looked
at
the
blue
text
provided
by
councilmember,
golding
and
then
ours,
and
we
added
a
sentence
that
you'll
see
in
the
red
line.
That
says
this
definition.
The
definition
of
animal
shelter
does
not
include
breeders
or
animals
obtained
from
a
breeder.
G
J
Hey
chris,
can
I
can
I
ask
because
in
the
in
the
blue
text
I
had,
I
had
mentioned
that
I
felt
that
the
the
person
needed
to
be
removed
from
animal
shelter.
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
explanation
why
we
would
not
remove
a
person,
because,
based
on
the
input
that
we've
gotten
also
since
then
I
at
least,
I
got
an
email
from
elizabeth
orrick
who's
with
best
friends?
J
G
Sorry,
can
you
hear
me
yep
I'll,
have
officer
tater
answer
that
and
she
can
log
on
and
answer
that
question,
but
while
she's
answering
I'm
all
gonna
find
an
additional
reason
that
riley
gave
me
as
well
so
go.
L
Hi,
everybody
can
y'all,
hear
me,
okay
in
reference
to
the
animal
shelter
in
reference
to
a
person.
The
way
it
currently
reads
now
also
includes
midway
down
into
it
or
actually
just
let
me
read
the
whole
thing.
L
This
definition
does
not
include
breeders
or
animals
obtained
from
a
breeder,
so
what
we
discussed
is
the
reason
the
person
is
in
there,
because
anybody
that
is
starting
to
adopt
a
shelter
or
a
rescue
is
why
we
want
to
keep
person
in
there.
So
we
don't
basically
shut
down
anybody.
That's
wanting
to
come
in
and
adopt
animal
rescue,
shelter
and
that's
why
we
decided
to
keep
person
in
there
so
that
we
would
give
other
people
opportunity
to
come
in
and
develop
these
companies.
L
Obviously,
through
the
legal
means
of
getting
permits
and
such
so,
this
would
be
something
that
we
would
watch
and
not
just
allow
anybody
to
go
in
and
adopt
being
a
shelter
so
to
speak.
J
So
I
mean,
and-
and
I
mean
honestly,
I
think
that
we
don't-
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
organizations
that
are
in
the
process
of
forming
or
whatever,
but
but
typically,
if
they
are
to
me,
I
just
feel
like
it's,
it's
dangerous
to
have
a
potential
loophole
in
there
just
to
give
some
of
these
organizations
an
opportunity
to
get
their
501c3
when,
when,
when
it's
creating
a
loophole,
okay.
L
I
I
understand,
respect
your
your
view
on
this,
however,
keep
in
mind
that,
through
this
entire
ordinance
chapter
five
ordinance,
there
are
other
areas
that
would
address
this.
L
So
if
one
area
isn't
very
specific
as
far
as
verbiage
there's
another
area
that
will
address
certain
things
and
as
far
as
vetting
a
a
company
or
a
person
that
wants
to
come
in
and
create
a
company,
that's
where
we
have
to
fall
back
on
everybody's
expertise
as
to
what
will
or
will
not
happen
as
far
as
allowing
this
person
to
come
in
and
as
far
as
puppy
mills.
As
long
as
I've
been
here,
we
have
not
had
any
puppy
mills,
so
I
think
we're
doing
something
somewhat
right,
but
I
can
understand
your
concerns.
L
J
Yeah
there
well
they're
they're.
Actually
the
puppy
mills
are
coming
from
out
of
state.
Basically,
but
brokers,
breeders
and
brokers
can
get
the
puppy
mills
from
or
can
get
the
puppies
from
out
of
state
puppy
mills,
and
then
they
can
say
that
there
and
that's
the
problem
that
happened
out
in
california.
They
can
say,
oh,
but
I'm
you
know,
I
fit
under
this
animal
shelter
definition-
and
you
know,
don't
worry,
you
know
everything's
good,
but
they're,
getting
their
puppies
from
a
puppy
mill
out
of
state.
I
I
don't
even
know
what
I'd
phrase
this
as
more
of
a
hypothetical
question,
I
believe,
is
how
I'm
going
to
put
it
so
this
the
concern
that
sandy
has
is
that
if
we
have
individual
in
the
definition
that
an
individual
could
be
a
go-between
between
a
breeder
and
the
the
store,
that's
selling
the
animals,
I'm
looking
at
it
as
what
what's
to
stop
that
individual
from
forming
a
sham.
That's
your
words,
a
sham
organization
from
forming
a
sham
non-profit
that
says
that
it's
a
rescue
mill
which
would
then
fit
into
this
definition.
I
So
there's
nothing
to
do.
I
think
we
really
have
to
rely
on
the
expertise
and
the
ability
of
the
police
department.
So
what
I'm
going
to
ask
specifically
regarding
this-
and
this
is
on
the
record-
because
it's
all
public
record,
the
intention
of
the
definition-
is
to
close
any
loopholes
from
puppy
mills
while
being
flexible
enough
to
still
allow
those
organizations
that
are
developing
as
rescue
organizations
to
be
able
to
participate
in
finding
forever
homes
for
all
the
dogs
and
cats
and
whatever
other
animals
legally.
Do
we
have
protection?
I
G
I
G
We
have
a
section
of
our
code
that
and
that's
we're
going
to
get
to
that
in
a
further
down
in
the
blue
text
memo
as
well,
but
we
have
an
entire
section
where
puppy
mills
are
prohibited
and-
and
it's
pretty
explicit,
so
what
I
would
say
is
with
the
you
know,
in
the
field:
if,
with
the
investigation,
the
officers
just
determine
and
decide,
this
is
a
prohibited
puppy
mill.
Then
we
would
shut
them
down.
G
We
would
give
them
the
reasons
why,
if
they
wanted
to
challenge
us,
then
they're
going
to
challenge
us
based
on
our
code,
language
and
their
factual
arguments
against
our
code.
So
yeah
I
mean
we
have
a
legal
basis
to
shut
them
down,
based
on
what
our
officers
investigation
reveals
and
we
move
forward
with
what
their,
what
their
position
is
in
terms
of
their
investigation
and
supported
by
our
code,
that
it
can
hit
puppy
mill.
I
And
so,
but
that's
if
the
puppy
mill
is
in
the
city,
what
happens
if
the
puppy
mill
is
in
georgia,
and
you
have
an
individual
who's
saying
I'm
I
found
a
puppy.
Here's
a
puppy
just
happens
to
be
a
purebred
and
here's
the
the
individual
gives
the
purebred
puppy
to
the
animal
store.
What
do
they
call
pet
stores
to
sell
that
puppy?
I
Is
there?
Does
this
language
allow
us
to
stop
that
individual
who
would
fall
under
the
definition
of
individual
of
who's
allowed
to
sell
or
provide
animals
to
a
pet
store
if
they're,
because
the
the
puppy
mill
is
not
in
jax
beach,
the
puppy
mill
would
be
somewhere
else.
But
how
do
you?
What
if
you
suspect
that
this
pet
store
is
getting
a
lot
of
purebreds
all
of
a
sudden?
G
J
Make
sure
that
it
says
that
okay,
you
say
it
does
not
breed
animals
or
obtains
animals
from
a
breeder
or
broker,
and
that
would
close
the
loophole
so
both
the
animal
rescue
group
and
the
animal
shelter.
If
we
say
they
do
not
breed
animals,
nor
do
they
obtain
them
from
a
breeder
or
a
broker.
J
Then
that
would
close
the
loophole
for
the
question
that
ms
dumont
just
asked,
because
the
brokers
are
a
big
issue
too.
The
brokers
are
the
people
that
are
in
between
the
puppy
mills,
so
they're,
the
ones
that
are
getting
them
from
the
puppy
mills
and
then
they
turn
around,
and
then
they
sell
them
to
the
pet
stores.
So
we
need
to
close
that
breeder
and
broker
loophole.
G
So
the
next
topic
was
in
the
blue
text.
Memo
was
cruelty
and
the
definition
of
it-
and
so
we
added
a
section,
a
sentence
to
that
definition
that
simply
incorporates
the
entirety
of
the
chapter.
828
florida
statutes
definition
of
cruelty,
so
we've
maintained
our
cruelty
definition
and
incorporated
the
florida
statutes
definition
of
cruelty
in
our
code.
G
Next
is
the
topic
of
home,
quarantine
and
so
home
quarantine
will
need
a
specific
explanation
from
our
officer
as
it
applies
to
our
jurisdiction
and
not
city
of
jacksonville
and
noaa
and
any
other
jurisdiction.
So
tony
and
riley
have
good
reasons
and
discussion
points
on
keeping
the
home
point
as
they
have
it
so
I'll.
Let
tonya
take
that
with
respect
to
explaining
your
case
by
case
and
the
way
that
your
jurisdiction
deals
with
hong
kong.
L
Okay,
so
with
homecorn
team,
we've
actually
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time.
It's
the
discretion
of
the
officer.
It's
going
to
also
depend
upon
the
nature
of
the
injury
as
far
as
severity,
and
that's
going
to
be
once
we
do
our
research
as
far
as
whether
it's
animal
control
or
one
of
our
actually
sworn
officers.
That
is
doing
it,
because
animal
control
doesn't
work
24
7,
so
sometimes
officers
are
obligated
to
do
these
investigations
till
they
can
hand
it
over
to
animal
control.
L
With
that
being
said,
depending
upon
what
we
find
out
in
the
investigation,
whether
there's
a
means
to
quarantine
the
animal,
and
we
feel
that
this
person
is
going
to
take
it
seriously
and
actually
quarantine.
The
animal
also
depends
upon
if
they
attack
their
next
door,
neighbor
we're
not
going
to
say,
do
home
quarantine
if
the
neighbors
right
next
door
we're
going
to
take
that
animal
to
animal
control
and
quarantine
it
there.
So
it
it
really
is
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
depending
upon
the
nature
of
the
attack
or
the
bite,
so
to
speak.
A
E
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
we
shouldn't
take
the
discretion
away
from
the
officers.
I've
dealt
with
this
over
a
considerable
amount
of
years
and-
and
I
think
that
tanya's
right
each
each
situation
is
a
case-by-case
basis.
I've
done
it
with
snakes,
I've
done
it
with
dogs,
cats,
all
kinds
of
animals
and
some
that
were
considered
pets,
some
that
weren't
illegal
pets.
So
it's
it's.
I
think
it
just.
We
keep
the
discretion
in
the
hands
of
the
officer.
J
Absolutely
and
the
whole
reason
that
I
included
the
blue
text
from
neptune
beach
in
there
is
because
it's
basically
just
codifying
what
we're
doing
and
it.
And
if
you
look
at
the
text
it
it
does
say
that
it's
used
when
a
bite
occurs
and
at
the
discretion
of
the
animal
control
officer
for
the
safety
of
health
for
the
for
the
safety
and
health
reasons
of
animals
and
people.
So
I'm
really
just
asking
for
us
to
codify
what
we're
doing,
because
it
it
does
put
the
discretion.
I
mean
it
it.
J
It
definitely
codifies
that
at
the
animal
control
officer's
discretion
because,
as
I
said
before,
you
know
riley's
doing
a
great
job.
But
if
riley's
not
here,
I'd
like
to
know
that
we
have
this
in
the
code,
so
future
animal
control
officers
would
be
would
would
have
know
that
they
have
the
ability
to
to
do
home.
Quarantine,
because
you
know
not,
everybody
may
be
as
proactive
as
riley
is.
G
So
I'll
add
that
riley
shared
with
me,
you
know
much
of
what
tanya
just
shared
in
that
riley
would
would
feel
more
comfortable
with
not
having
neptune
beach's
definition,
because
sometimes
when
you
get
a
particular
definition,
it's
a
framework
that
you
have
in
a
code
or
a
statute
ordinance
or
section
you
have
to
operate
within
that
framework
with
not
having
home
quarantine
added
to
her
definitions
that
she
has
to
operate
strictly.
I
Thank
you.
I
understand
sandy's
concern,
you
don't
want
write
your
ordinances
for
the
staff,
you
have.
You
write
it
for
the
future.
That
said
this,
I
see
this
more
as
a
training
issue
and
training
of
animal
control
officers
and
letting
them
know
what
their
options
are
versus,
something
that
needs
to
be
codified,
at
least
at
this
time.
J
G
Okay,
next
item
next
item
is
the
definition
of
person,
and
so
the
blue
text
has
suggested
the
atlantic
beach
definition.
What
the
officers
and
I
did
were
or
was
to
essentially
change
our
definition
of
person
so
that
it
matches
atlantic
beach's
definition
and
we've
provided
a
redline
version
of
that.
G
We
have
actually
decided
to
keep
ours
because
keep
our
definition
as
it
is
because,
quite
frankly,
the
florida
statute
definition
is
deficient
in
my
judgment.
It
doesn't
technically
technically.
The
florida
statute
requires
that
a
severe
injury
constitutes
broken
bones.
So
multiple
bones:
if
you
have
to
do
a
strict
reading
and
strict
construction
of
statutory
definitions,
their
definition
is
not
as
complete
or
sufficient
or
adequate
as
ours
is.
So
I
suggested
to
our
officers
that
the
way
the
florida
statute
reads
is
this
severe
injury.
G
You
have
to
have
one
or
more
broken
bones,
but
I,
like
our
definition,
is
very
clear
one
or
more
broken
bones,
so
we
we
say
that
specifically,
the
florida
statute
seems
to
indicate
that
you
have
to
have
multiple
broken
bones.
We
just
didn't
want
to
cause
any
other
confusion.
We
kept
it
very
simple
with
our
statute
and
with
our
definition
versus.
J
You
for
the
explanation
chris,
I
I
just
always
tend
to
err
on
the
side
of
what
the
state
statute
has,
and
so
that's
the
reason.
I
asked
that
question
because
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't
going
to
cause
ourselves
any
problems
by
having
something
different.
But
if
you,
if
you're
happy
with
it
with
what
we
have,
then
that's
great.
Thank
you.
G
Sure
yeah,
I
agree,
you
know
I
get
paid
to
read
every
single
word,
so
I
and
then
micro,
for
example,
micro
mobility,
devices
in
the
florida
statutes
and
that's
another
topic
coming
up
for
council
soon.
I
do
actually
rely
on
the
florida
statutes
throughout
that
document
in
support
of
our
definitions.
So
I
I
agree.
I
usually
go
straight
to
it,
and
staff
around
here
will
say:
yeah
well,
chris
usually
goes
straight
to
the
floor.
Statue
definition
definition
not
on
this
one,
so
we
didn't
make
any
change.
G
G
We
made
some
changes
in
our
5-2-9
and
we
made
some
improvements
and
corrections
by
changing
the
language
that
was
suggested
in
the
blue
memo,
and
we
now
change
it
to
duvall
county
health
department
throughout
5-2-9
and
riley
said
that
that
was
accurate,
and
that
was
a
we
improved
it
there.
So
the
blue
for
the
blue
memo
help.
We
changed
that.
G
J
D
J
I'm
sorry
just
just
a
question,
because
this
goes
back
to
the
the
briefing
on
the
25th
where
chet
was
talking
with
riley
about
using
domesticated
animal
instead
of
dog
and
cat.
J
So
I
guess
this
is
a
question
for
riley
because
are
we
are
we
getting
into
an
area
that
we
really
don't
want
to
get
into
if
we
say
that
you're
bitten
by
any
animal
you
know
or
versus
a
domesticated
animal?
You
know,
because
the
discussion
was
about
domesticated
animal
on
the
25th.
So
it's
just
it's
something
that
concerns
me
a
little
bit.
Do
we
really
want
to
go
that
direction
and
require
that
any
bite
by
any
animal?
Because
that
could
be?
You
know
anything
right,
yeah.
F
D
J
L
Sure
the
reason
behind
that
is
is
because,
even
though
feral
cats
don't
have
owners
so
to
speak,
if
it,
if
a
person
is
bitten
by
a
feral
cat
and
we're
able
to
catch
it,
then
we
can
monitor
it,
which
goes
to
health
reasons
for
a
person,
because
if
we
monitor
and
find
out
it's
showing
no
signs
of
rabies,
then
the
person
doesn't
have
to
go
through
painful
rabies
treatment.
So
in
that
case,
that's
not
a
domesticated
animal,
but
we
would
still
attempt
to
capture
and
and
keep
an
eye
on
it
for
health
purposes.
J
L
L
If
a
person's
bitten
by
a
raccoon,
we
would
trap
attempt
every
you
know
thing
that
we
could
to
trap
that
raccoon
and
keep
an
eye
on
it
as
far
as
its
behavior
and
if
it
had
rabies,
and
that
would
not
be
domesticated.
So
those
are
just
some
examples.
G
That
came
from
the
sanford
code,
and
that
was
a
good
suggestion
that
we
adopted
and
the
red
line
version
is
shown
on
the
ordinance.
And
then
I
added
on
to
that
edition
from
the
stanford
code,
something
that
riley
shared
with
me
is.
Sometimes
there
are
city
permitted
sales
or
adoption
events
throughout
the
city,
and
so
I
wanted
to
add
that
into
the
into
the
I
included
that
into
the
new
language.
So
we
added
samford's
code
section
as
the
blue
memo
asked
for
and
then
even
enhanced
it
a
little
bit
specific
to
our
jurisdiction.
G
The
next
is.
We
were
also
asked
to
consider
adding
adoption
based
business
model
to
section
5-4-2
and
after
the
officers
read
that
they
felt
that
that
was
unnecessary
for
our
jurisdiction
and
that
what
we
already
included
in
542
supplies
them
with
what
they
need.
G
The
next
topic
is
5-4-3
tethering,
so
this
so
we're
back
to
where
we
began
originally
with
tethering.
So
we
made
no
changes
to
tethering
and
that's
when
tanya
was
going
to
get
into
detail
about
tethering.
L
Okay,
so
in
reference
to
tethering
one,
we
have
had
maybe
two
cases
that
I'm
aware
of
in
reference
to
24
7
tethering
and
when
it
comes
to
tethering
there.
L
We
have
gone
to
cases
where
someone's
reported
somebody's
tethered
an
animal,
but
it
hasn't
been
for
any
length
of
time
once
our
investigation
was
concluded
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
do
cover
that
the
concerns
of
an
animal
that
is
tethered
for
too
long.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
allow
that
to
happen
again.
We're
we're
fortunate
in
this
area.
That
has
not
happened,
and
I
feel,
and
chris
can
tell
what
he
thinks.
L
But
after
going
over
this
whole
division
on
tethering,
we
feel,
like
we've
covered
every
basis
that
we
can,
as
far
as
our
tools
to
engage
on
a
case
in
reference
to
somebody
tethering.
G
Right
yeah,
I
mean
I
felt
that,
after
what
the
officers
shared
with
me,
that
the
way
that
we
have
our
tethering
drafted
seem
to
work
for
what
this
our
city
is
and
has
been
dealing
with,
and
what
foreseeably
they
may
encounter
based
on
his
their
history
and
their
field
work.
So,
along
with
what
the
officers
were
telling
me,
we
collectively
felt
that
there
was
no
change
to
be
made,
but
we
risk
this.
Is
this
links
back
to
the
additional
information
we
received
from
council
member
building
on
tethering?
G
So
there
is
a
lot
of
additional
information
for
the
officers
tonight
to
review
if
you'd
like
us
to
review
the
additional
information-
and
perhaps
this
is
one
of
the
topics
that
we
should
come
back
to
later
after
you've
adopted
this
ordinance
and
as
council
member
dumont
mentioned.
Perhaps
we
come
back
with
an
amendment
to
this
well.
Tethering
may
be
one
of
the
first
sections
that
city
council
directs
us
to
amend
and
change,
but
at
this
point
we
feel
like
we
should
go
forward
with
the
way
we
have
tethering.
L
You
know
I'd
like
to
add
just
one
more
thing
is
keep
in
mind
too.
We
are
very
fortunate
with
our
nine
square
miles
and
our
animal
control
officers
they're
pretty
good
about
monitoring
all
areas
of
the
beach.
So
we
stay
on
top
of
it
very
much
so
so
you
know
just
to
put
you
at
ease
a
little
bit.
J
Again
what
I
what
I've
said
before
is
you
know
I?
I
know
our
officers
are
doing
a
great
job,
but
right
now
as
it
is,
our
code
allows
tethering,
24
7.
the
code.
They
can't
point
to
anything
in
the
code
that
they
that
they
can
say.
Oh
by
the
way
our
code
says,
you
can't
do
this,
so
that's
just
my
biggest
concern.
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
address
this.
J
If
it's
not
addressed
in
the
first
reading,
I
would
really
like
to
see
it
done
as
soon
as
possible,
because
the
bottom
line
is
our
code
allows
24,
7
tethering,
and
I
know
our
officers
can't
be
everywhere
all
the
time
and
then
you
have
issues
like
what
mr
stokes
ran
into
you
know.
J
So
I
just
I
I
this
this
is.
This
is
a
hill
I
am
probably
going
to
die
on,
but
because
it's
important
to
me,
so
if
we
don't
do
it
now,
I
want
to
see
us
do
it.
You
know,
as
soon
as
we
can.
I
How
difficult
is
it
to
just
add
no
24
7
tethering
or
the?
What
is
it?
What
do
we
call
attended
tethering
only
or
is
it
that
difficult
to
add
that,
so
it's
not
it
can't
we
just
throw
it
in
as
a
letter.
J
Well,
and
actually
that's
what
some
cities
have
is
they
do
just
have?
Like
you
said
a
letter,
it
says
the
dog
cannot
be.
You
know
on
a
tether
unless
an
owner
is
outside,
with
a
dog
and
and
within
visual
sight
of
the
dog.
That's
just
one
little
subsection
of
the
tethering
and
then
they
go
on
and
say
the
tether
can't
be
more
than
one-eighth
of
the
weight
of
the
dog
and
it
needs
to
be
a
certain
length
and
blah
blah
blah
without
getting
now.
J
The
thing
is:
is
that
jacksonville
got
into
the
the
they
got
into
actually
specifying
what
the
tethers
like,
but
that's
because
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
for
safety
reasons
that
that
it
was
a
type
of
tether
that
would
allow
a
dog
to
actually
escape
from
a
threat
and
not
actually
be
in
a
situation
like
the
photo
in
the.
In
the
memo
that
I
shared
where
this
dog
is
just
tied
to
the
stake,
all
the
time
and
it's
all
it
can
do
is
run
around
in
a
certain
small
area,
and
that's
it.
I
J
J
So
if
we
can
add
something
like
that,
then
that
definitely
goes
a
long
way
towards
you're,
not
dying
to
24,
tethering,
yeah
and
and
yeah.
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
necessarily
die
on
a
hill,
then
yeah.
G
Right
so
riley
shared
with
me
that
she's
aware
of
owners
that
do
have
their
pets
tethered
but
they're,
not
necessarily
outside
with
their
pets,
and
she
she's
aware
of
very
docile
calm
dogs,
for
example,
that
are
tethered
in
the
city
and
the
owners
allow
them
to
be
tethered
on
a
nice
long
leash
around
their
gated
fence
and
the
dog
doesn't
far
dog
hasn't
caused
any
problems
very
docile,
but
has
a
lot
of
room
to
move
about.
G
Meanwhile,
the
owner
is
in
the
garage
working
for
example,
and
so
riley
said
that
she's
very
comfortable
with
not
having
any
of
those
requirements
that
are
suggested
so
that
that's
why
we
didn't
include
them.
I.
I
Would
I
would
include
it,
I
know
that
she's
comfortable
with
it,
but
I
would
also
include
this
under
bureaucratic
discretion.
The
reason
why
we
dropped
something
else
that
if
you
know,
if
some,
if
somebody
has
their
dog
tethered
and
they're,
not
in
eye
sight,
that's
fine.
If
the
animal
control
officer
looks
and
says
sees
that
there's
no
problem,
there's
no
need
for
action.
I
It's
when
there
is
a
problem
like
a
candidate
for
city
council,
approaching
your
door
to
go
knock
or
to
put
a
hanger
on
there,
and
you
have
a
dog
that
that
snaps
at
you
now
you
have.
There
is
no
human
in
in
eyesight,
and
now
you
have
something
to
back
up
in
action
by
the
city.
K
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
say
that
there
was
no
fence,
there
was
a
tethered,
there's
no
attended,
and
that
was
not
a
docile
dog.
K
So
I
can,
I
can
say
there
is
at
least
one
situation
that,
and
that
was
I
mean
that
was
me
literally
just
walking
up
to
like
councilman
dumont
said
knock
on
the
door,
leave
a
flyer
posing
no
harm
or
risk,
and
was
I
mean
viciously
attacked
to
the
point
where
I
was
legitimately
scared,
and
I
mean
I'm
a
lot
bigger
than
the
dog.
But
I
was,
I
was
scared,
like
you
know,
that's
fight
or
fight
or
flight
situation,
and
I
fled
and
it
still
caught
me.
G
So
we'll
draft
language
and
we'll
include
that
on
the
first
reading,
ordinance
you'll
see
that
in
the
section
5-4-3
under
tethering
and
then,
if
you
like
any,
if
that
language
doesn't
match
with
what
your
which
you'd
like
to
see,
then
we
can
revise
it
and
it
won't
cause
us
to
circle
back
to
another.
First
reading
we
can
proceed
with
the
secondary.
J
I
I
just
want
to
follow
up.
That's
the
whole
point
of
the
attended.
Tethering
is
that
you
have
somebody
outside
that
can
intervene
and
make
sure
that
there
aren't
any
issues,
and
so
had
that
been
the
case
in
mr
stokes
situation,
then
there
would
have
been
a
person
outside
who
could
have
intervened.
So
again,
that's
another
reason
for
attended
tethering.
D
G
No
yeah,
I
was
gonna
say
we
can
regulate
it
for
exactly
for
those
purposes,
is
there's
no
expectation
of
privacy
or
any
property
rights
where
there's
not
a
closed
gate
or
secured
gate
and
then
the
example
of
council
member
stokes.
You
know
he
didn't
reach
any
fence
or
break
any
fence
or
go
through
any
gated
or
locked
fence.
He
just
walked
up
to
a
standard,
open,
walkway
to
a
front
door
and
there's
no
expectation
of
privacy
or
property
rights
with
respect
to
stopping
someone
from
direct
going
to
your
front
door.
F
F
But
I
to
me
I
would
like
this
to
be
simple
and
something
that
really
just
gives
our
animal
control
officers
some
leverage
if
there
is
abuse
going
on,
because
I
I
think
the
line
of
sight
is
very
subjective
if
somebody
puts
their
dog
outside
on
the
leash
and
walks
to
the
back
of
house
to
do
their
dishes
like
I
don't
think
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here,
so
I
think
it
needs.
F
It
needs
to
be
something
where,
where
riley
or
whoever
the
animal
control
officer
has
that
discretion
to
say
this
is
abuse.
I
don't
have
to
sit
here
and
watch
this
for
24
hours
or
whatever
that
that
they
can
make
that
determination.
I
understand
why
the
time
limit
is
is
a
challenge,
but
I
would
just
say:
simple,
is
better
and
and
something
simple
that
we
can
all
agree
on,
that
we
don't
have
to
pull
this
thing
back
open
again
in
six
months
would
be
great.
G
Absolutely
and
in
in
this
circumstance,
if
council
member
golding
would
like
to
email
to
me
what
you
would
like
added
based
on
our
group
discussion
here
tonight,
then
the
officers
and
I
will
consider
it
and
then
we'll
put
it
we'll
put
it
in
so
you
you
feel
free
to
send
us
what
you'd
like
to
see.
Added
to
this
section.
D
G
Next
section
is
in
also
in
4-3,
section
5-4-3,
it's
three
abandonment
and
we
just
corrected
a
word
there
to
make
more
sense.
It
was
cats,
apart
from
the
community
and
apart
that,
are
a
part
of
the
community
we
made
that
fix.
The
next
section
is
the
blue.
Memo
mentioned
5-4-4,
and
this
is
cruelty
on
animals
and
we
made
no
changes
there,
because
the
way
that
544
is
currently
drafted
seems
to
it's
a
very
long,
detailed
section,
dash
44
and
the
officers
were
very
firm
on.
G
They
felt
comfortable
with
that
as
a
working
section
for
them.
So
we
didn't
add
or
change
any
of
the
suggestions
from
the
blue
note
and
tanya.
The
main
change
was
the
phrase
placed
in
a
secured
crate
or
cage
that
allows
for
proper
ventilation,
and
I
think
we
had
everything
covered
already
to
your
satisfaction.
G
Okay
and
then
the
next
is
5-5-2
and
this
is
rabies
and
the
title
was
rabies,
vaccination
tag
required
for
paws
dog
park,
but
we
changed
that
because
now
rabies
vaccination
is
required
and
we're
just.
We
just
have
that.
As
the
new
title.
We
took
out
the
reference
to
pause
dog
park
and
we
don't
have
that
now
as
a
sort
of
as
a
prescriptive
condition.
G
G
G
To
include
neptune
beaches,
domesticated
animal,
the
officers
explained
that
they
don't
want
to
try
to
adopt
neptune
beach's
code,
in
that
instance
with
respect
to
domesticated
animal
and
tonya.
You
can
add,
if
you'd
like
to
to
that
and
that's
the
last
item
on
the
blue
member.
J
Can
I
just
ask
because
it's
I
I
just
I
would
like
some
clarification.
I
don't
understand
why
what
the
difference
is
between
529
and
553.
They
both
seem
to
be
talking
about
situations
involving
a
bite.
So
I
wanted
to
understand
why
we
have
what
what
each
of
those
sections
are
doing
or
what
I
guess
why
we
would
have
the
two
different
sections
that
was
part
of
that
was
part
of
my
question
in
the
blue
memo.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
the
answer
to
that.
L
J
Yeah,
so
we
have
two
sections:
one
is
5-29,
which
is
talking
about
bytes
and
quarantine,
and
then
5-5-3
is
talking
about
bytes
and
quarantine.
And
so
I
didn't.
I
didn't
quite
understand
what
the
difference
was
between
those
two
sections
and
almost
made
me
wonder
if
we
couldn't
just
have
one
section
and-
and
one
of
those
could
actually
go
away,
what
if
there
was
any
kind
of
value
in
in
one
of
those
sections
versus
the
other
or
or
both
both
are
different
in
some
way,
and
I'm
just
not
seeing
it.
G
E
L
G
So
there
will
be
a
couple
of
changes
that
will
make
to
the
animal
rescue
organization
and
animal
shelter
definition
that
speaks
to,
nor
do
they
obtain
the
animals
from
a
broker
or
a
breeder,
and
then
councilwoman
golding
will
provide
us
with
a
sentence
that
she
suggests.
We
insert
as
we
mentioned,
and
then
otherwise
we're
going
to
have
this
ordinance
to
you
for
the
march
15.
First
reading.
G
A
I
J
E
J
Work
chris,
I
totally
I
totally.
Second,
what
ms
dumont
says.
I
mean
I
everybody
knows
that
this
is
an
area
that
that
is
in
my
wheelhouse
or
I
you
know
I
work
in
animal
welfare,
so
this
is.
This
is
something
that
is
very
important
to
me,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
patience
and
answering
the
questions
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
this
rewritten.
E
Yes,
in
closing
a
little
story
for
you
when
I
was
on
patrol
in
the
mid
90s
got
called
to
an
individual
who
was
in.
He
had
a
pet
python.
Why?
I
brought
it
up
earlier
who
had
wrapped
himself
around
his
owner,
had
a
caused
a
compound
fracture
in
his
arm
and
was
basically
squeezing
him
to
death.
So
I
had
to
shoot
the
snake
in
order
to
save
this
individual's
life.
A
Two
draft
statements
were
developed
coming
out
of
that
meeting.
The
first
one
was
the
vision
statement
of
a
vibrant
coastal
community
that
embraces
the
beach
life
and
the
draft
mission
statement
of
innovative
government
that
is
transparent
and
responsive
while
focused
on
safety,
infrastructure
and
environmental
stewardship.
A
The
facilitator
asked
that
we
all
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
go
back
and
review
those
two
draft
statements
and
see
if
those
were
the
ones
we
wanted
to
proceed
forward
with,
for
the
purposes
of
the
organization.
I
Thank
you
mike
the
I
just
want
to
reiterate
for
those
who
are
watching
it
looks
like
we
have
no
extra
attendees,
but
this
is
recorded
so
beach's
leader
in
and
the
rest
of
the
media
are
going
to
watch
this.
To
get
your
information
when
we
prior
to
our
retreat,
we
went
through
all
those
visioning
sessions.
We
we
assessed
that
information
a
couple
different
times
and
it
was
from
the
information
from
our
residents,
our
businesses
and
those
within
the
community
that
we
were
able
to
develop.
That
vision.
I
Statement
from
it
wasn't
easy.
It
was
chet
said
that
his
head
hurt
after
a
while,
the
but
the
the
community
vision
came
from
you
all
of
our
residents
and
business
owners
and
such
so
it's
not
just
the
seven
of
us
getting
together
and
throwing
some
words
together.
I
That
said,
I
I
like
the
vision
statement
and
I
also
agree
with
I
I
like
shorter.
I
agree
with
the
revised
mission
statement.
It's
cleaner.
It's
got
nice
alliteration
safety
service
sustainability.
So
I
like
those
kinds
of
things,
so
I
support
them
both.
F
And
thank
you
for
including
the
summaries
of
the
visioning
meetings
again
in
this
packet,
because
it
was
really
nice
to
go
back
after
the
fact
and
look
at
those
again
and
see
how
true
I
really
feel
like
we
stayed
to
those
during
our
meeting
and
after
the
meeting
the
as
I
kind
of
let
things
percolate,
I
love
the
vision
statement,
even
more
than
I
did
at
the
meeting,
I'm
already
starting
to
think
about
how
it
can
apply
to
things
that
we're
already
talking
about
in
our
future
and
the
hashtag
just
really
writes
itself.
F
So
I
love
the
vision
statement
as
it
is.
The
mission
statement
never
really
landed
with
me
and
I
think
I
struggled
with
that.
Innovate
innovative
as
the
first
line
or
the
first
word,
so
I
I
think
the
staffs
work
on
it
and
their
proposed
revision
really
nails
it
and
broadens
things
a
little
bit
that
are
really
more
true
to
to
what
we
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
an
organization.
So
I
I
fully
support
the
revised
mission
statement
and
thank
the
department
heads
for
helping
us
out.
F
We
were
a
little
punchy
at
the
end
of
the
day
after
seven
hours
of
working
on
this.
So
if
we
had
had
yeah
if
we
started
over
again
in
the
morning,
we
might
have
been
able
to
flush
it
out,
but
I
I
think
the
department
has
really
brought
it
home
and
it's,
and
especially
after
sitting
there
watching
us,
go
through
the
whole
process.
I
think
that
was
a
really
important
kind
of
last
leg
of
that
journey.
So
I
support
both
of
them
as
they
are.
D
D
But
no,
but
I
mean
I
just
don't
know,
do
we
or
I
mean?
Is
it
standard
to
have
punctuation
at
the
end
of
a
vision
and
a
mission
statement.
A
And
and
counselor
nichols
your
thoughts
on
the
the
vision
and
the
mission
statement
as
presented.
D
No,
I
like
them,
I'm
fine
with
the
changes
to
the
mission
statement.
It's
yeah,
I
think
it's
more
for
the
city
and
I
think
it
it
does.
It
doesn't
meet
what
we're
trying
to
do
where
we're
trying
to
go.
D
K
K
Our
vision
statement
really
starts
to
to
resonate
and
when
you
look
at
the
the
comments
that
were
prevalent
throughout
the
beach
life,
it
kind
of
encompasses
all
of
that
without
diving
into
every
single
point.
So
I
really
liked
that
we
buckled
down
and
and
yes
as
counselor
dumont
said,
that
was
a.
K
I
slept
really
good
that
night
after
seven
hours
of
visioning
and
and
really,
I
think,
I
think
all
of
us
probably
did,
because
because
we
we
put
a
lot
of
work
into
that
day
and
and
then
you
all
took
a
a
good
okay,
a
good
mission
statement
and
really
made
it
into
a
great
mission
statement
and
the
explanation
provided
really
cleared
it
up,
and
I
think
you
all
did
a
great
work.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
K
Everyone
for
helping
us
out
after
our
seven
hours
was
winding
down
and
we
were
really
struggling.
So
I'm
really
happy
that
with
how
both
came
out
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
these
out
into
the
field
and
adopted.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
mayor
hoffman,
I
see
your
hand
is
still
raised.
Is
that
did
I
skip
you?
Nope,
okay,
we'll
move
on
counselor
dumont,
followed
by
councillor
janssen.
I
I
F
E
I
just
want
to
give
you
give
you
my
vote
of
approval
on
both
of
them
and
I
absolutely
think
our
vision
statement
is
fantastic
and
I'm
with
with
the
rest
of
the
counselors,
who
have
already
spoken
that
I'm
anxious
to
get
the
the
hashtag
out
there
and
really
start
selling
it.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
good
work,
good
work
on
a
mission
statement
too.
J
I
support
both
and
I
I
will
say
this.
I
have
to
be
totally
honest
though
I
I
struggled
with
the
mission
statement
a
little
bit
because
the
word
transparent
is
just
a
word
that
I
feel
is
really
is
really
important
and
I
I
think
citizens
you
know
they
use
the
word
transparent
and
they
they
feel
that
transparency
is
so
important
in
government
and
so
not
having
it
in
there
yeah.
I
struggled
with
it.
I
I
definitely
I
can
I
I'm
happy
with
the
safety
service
and
sustainability.
J
I
really
really
like
that,
but
you
know
I'm
I'm
willing
to
accept,
accept
the
mission
statement,
because
I
know
I
know
the
department
heads
did
a
great
job
with
it
did
a
much
better
job
than
we
did,
but,
but
I
I
just
had
to
be
had
to
be
honest,
that
the
transparency
thing
was
just
something
that
I
guess
I'm.
I
just
struggle
with
it.
A
little
bit.
A
Thank
you
and
to
to
reiterate
to
council.
I
know
we
put
it
in
the
memo
it's
a
little
separated
from
where
it
is
in
the
memo,
but
one
of
the
reasons
that
staff
felt
okay
from
removing
it
from
the
mission
statement.
One
of
the
reasons
was
that
it
is
within
our
core
values
under
communication
that
we
have
open
and
honest
dialogue
with
our
community,
as
well
as
with
our
elected
officials,
staff,
etc.
A
Are
you
all
comfortable
with
us
preparing
that
as
a
resolution,
I
see
heads
nodding
and
thumbs
up
fantastic,
okay,
that
wraps
up
item
number
four
and
puts
us
right
at
about
the
two
hour
mark.
So
are
you
all
ready
for
item
five
good,
because
there
is
no
item
five
on
the
agenda
tonight
we
are
done
with
our
council
briefing.
A
Thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
for
this
evening.
We
have
our
regular
council
meeting
next
monday
night
six
o'clock
in
person
in
the
council
chambers.
We
look
forward
to
seeing
everyone
in
the
public
there.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank.