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A
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
We
have
a
couple
of
minutes.
A
We
can
just
do
and
pay
your
name
qualified
I'm,
going
to
take
them
separately,
so
maybe
minutes
for
February
13
2023..
Do
you
have
any
changes?
Any
discussion
for
any
questions.
A
A
That
we'll
discuss
whether
we've
had
any
extra
communication
to
discuss.
Actually,
since
I
was
one
of
people
who
received
that
emails.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
old
business.
C
D
A
A
D
D
The
request
is
a
conditionally
used
for
a
drinking
establishment,
an
outdoor
bar
for
an
existing
structure
located
in
the
central
business
district,
the
CBD
Zone
industry,
Pursuit
into
section
34,
345
D2
and
34
345
87,
the
Jacksonville
Beachland
development
code,
the
subject
properties
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Fifth,
Avenue
North
and
2nd
Street
North.
The
previous
use
of
the
property
was
a
standalone
drinking
establishment
with
an
outdoor
bar
area,
previously
known
as
both
coral
reef
that
operated
from
1964
to
January
of
2019.
D
When
the
doors
were
closed,
the
property
existed
as
a
non-conforming
use,
having
predated
the
Land
Development
code
and
did
not
have
conditional
use
approval
for
an
enclosed
bar
or
outdoor
bar
area.
The
current
owner
approaches
the
property
in
March
of
2020
desires
to
reestablish
the
commercial
property
with
a
new
car
retail
and
office
uses.
D
D
The
new
owner
wants
to
re-establish
the
drinking
establishment,
as
was
operational
on
the
site
for
over
55
years,
and
had
a
retail
office
component
to
the
site.
The
plan
commonplace
using
the
existing
building,
which
was
constructured
in
1954
and
maintaining
the
same
outdoor
bar
area
and
parking
adjacent
to
2nd
Street
North.
The
Appleton
is
choosing
to
apply
for
permission
to
use
approval
for
the
bar
use
and
has
a
companion
variance
application
submitted
to
addressing
the
same
existing
non-conformities.
D
The
project
also
includes
a
small
retail
location
and
office
space.
The
applicator
is
proposing
approximately
6
700
square
feet
of
drinking
establishment,
including
the
outdoor
area,
250
square
feet
of
retail
and
200
square
feet
of
office
included
in
the
provision
for
Rd
rezoning
requests.
The
applicant
requested
an
exemption
from
the
500
foot
alcohol
exclusion
for
Section
34
3932,
as
they
were
450
feet
from
mangoes
as
measured
from
main
entrance
to
main
entrance.
The
conditional
use
application
includes
more
detailed
routes
to
various
existing
drinking
establishments.
D
D
Staff
agrees
with
the
applicant's
assessment
that
the
Redevelopment
of
this
property
will
serve
to
eliminate
blight
conditions
on
a
prominent
downtown
property
and
is
consistent
with
downtown
Redevelopment
plan
and
re-establishment
of
the
drinking
establishment,
and
the
additional
other
commercial
uses
are
let
out
of
character
with
the
existing
mix
of
uses
in
the
downtown
area
of
adjacent
properties
and
provides
for
the
reactivation
of
the
property
that
is
set.
Leaving
for
over
three
and
a
half
years.
D
D
With
the
proposed
site
plan,
particularly
the
size
of
the
office
and
Retail
uses,
and
the
proposal
amount
of
parking
staff
would
recommend
the
following
considerations:
your
Planning
Commission
to
consider
a
minimum
aggregate
of
square
footage
for
the
office
and
Retail
component
of
mixed-use
project
of
no
less
than
one
thousand
square
feet.
One
paved
Ada,
accessible
parking
space
will
be
provided
on
site
with
compliance
with
the
Land
Development
code
and
the
rear
deck
being
removed
to
provide
more
on-site
parking.
A
So
the
Planning
Commission
bases
its
decision
on
competent,
substantial
evidence,
including
testimony
provided
in
this
meeting
any
person
who
is
not
an
applicant
or
agent
in
which
is
to
speak
when
he's
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
located
in
you,
decide
people
by
the
door
and
turn
the
municipal
court,
and
obviously
many
of
you
do
that,
but
I.
A
It
is
our
practice
that,
regardless
of
the
type
of
issue
we
are
asked
to
decide
upon,
each
member
of
the
public
is
given
three
minutes
to
speak
on
on
each
item.
Please,
referring
from
speaking
out
from
the
audience
applauding
groaning,
Etc
has
been
trying
to
ensure
an
atmosphere
where
everyone
listening
on
attendance
is
comfortable
and
please
Silence
Yourself.
Somebody
first
thing.
A
D
Sure
are
you
referring
to
the
criteria
the
code
so
yeah
under
Section
34
231?
There
are
in
the
applicable
standards
for
conditional
uses,
so
the
first
condition
or
consideration
rather,
is
whether
or
not
it
needs
the
policy
of
the
comprehensive
plan
which
we
felt
it
did
the
question
of
whether
it's
consistent
with
the
character
they
needed
facility.
D
This
area
is
a
mix
of
multiple
different
commercial
uses,
including
bars
and
restaurants
and
Retail
establishments.
The
design
of
the
proposed
conditional
use
minimizes
the
inverse
in
effects,
including
visual
impact
and
the
proposed
uses
adjacent
users.
One
of
the
things
we
thought
that
the
removal
of
the
deck
would
allow
for
both
more
parking,
which
would
have
a
lesser
impact
on
the
surrounding
property,
as
well
as
provide
an
opportunity,
perhaps
for
some
more
screening
through
adjacent
uses,
although
it
is
predominantly
commercial
in
this
area.
D
The
second
category
6
deals
with
adequate
public
facilities,
Distributing
the
property.
Now
we
do
obviously
recognize
the
building's
been
there
for
60
years.
They
do
have
a
pack
and
put
water
in
sewer
capacity,
a
strong
water
to
address
that.
But
again,
parking
is
one
of
those
things
that
in
the
downtown
area,
you
can't
get
variants
for
parking.
D
You
can
only
buy
your
way
out
of
parking
through
a
ratio
that
we
have
in
the
city,
so
in
in
essence,
they're
going
to
either
provide
money
to
go
into
a
fund
to
build
a
parking
garage
in
the
future
or,
if
they're
willing
to
provide
the
parking.
So,
whether
or
not
that
makes
an
economic
sense
for
them
or
not,
I
don't
know,
but
we
felt
that
you
know
they
had
the
opportunity
to
provide
more
parking.
So
we
encourage
them
to
do
so
through
that
condition.
D
The
question
about
the
commercial
and
office
uses
I.
Think
it's
just
a
practical
one
in
that
a
500
square
foot
office
or
500
square
foot.
Retail
space
really
is
kind
of
the
minimum
to
provide
the
necessary
Ada,
accessible
bathroom
room
for
an
employee
room
for
merchandise
those
kind
of
things.
D
So
that
was
really
just
kind
of
a
standard
that
we
would
apply
anywhere
for
the
practical
application
of
any
type
of
commercial
use
and
other
than
that,
we
really
felt
they
left
the
rest
of
the
conditions
as
well
as
the.
What
do
you
call
it?
The
the
requirements
of
the
Redevelopment
District?
They
find
that
in
the
CRA
plan
they
can
properties,
you're,
considered
lighting
influence
and
the
plan
encourages
the
ReUse
of
existing
properties
of
Redevelopment
of
the
existing
properties
downtown.
So
we
felt
that
it
met
that
as
well.
A
E
D
There's
no
minimum
in
our
code.
It
would
really
come
down
to
the
building
officials
determination
on
literally
with
minimum
space
we
needed
to
meet
the
building
fire
code
requirements
in
conversations
with
both
globalization
of
the
fire
marshal.
There
were
some
concerns
that
meeting
Ada
access
and
bathrooms,
and
things
like
that
would
be
challenging
in
the
smaller
space,
but
it's
hard
to
say
that
it
would
be
possible
or
not
until
they
actually
desire.
E
D
Spaces
that
you
need,
can
you
remind
me
about
correct
yeah,
so
for
a
what
we
call
a
shopping
center
use,
which
is
three
or
more
different
uses?
The
parking
standard
is
one
space
for
250
square
feet
for
a
drinking
establishment.
E
Sorry
I
should
have
that
handy.
I'm
asking
gives
us,
obviously
why
they
want
this
to
and
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
realize
that.
D
A
C
F
Okay
and
I
I
know
most
of
you
know
what
happened
in
the
last
hearings.
What
kind
of
kind
of
briefly
go
through
it
again,
so
we
had
gone
through
the
last
young
exception
for
12
months
after
everything
occurred
and
then
after
we
went
from
city
council
and
there
was
concerns
of
the
500
feet
distance
after
that
I
went
back
out
to
the
property
to
try
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
to
do
at
that
point
and
got
a
survey
measuring
wheel
and
measured
out
and
come
to
find
out.
F
I
thought
well,
I
think
it
actually
does
meet
the
requirement,
and
then
we
called
a
survey
company
and
they
came
out
and
and
confirmed
that
it
did
actually
meet
that
requirement.
So
then
it
started
the
process
for
us
again
for
this
application
after
the
last
one,
and
to
kind
of
remind
you
guys
or
go
over
part
of
the
history,
I
purchased
the
building
in
2019
and
the
goal
was
to
go
in
and
do
some
cosmetic
Renovations,
nothing
substantial.
F
At
that
point,
we
had
to
close
our
other
locations
and
they
offer
staff
and
kind
of
go
through.
The
program
had
different
problems
about
three
months
into
that.
That's
when
I,
when
I
found
myself
at
St
Vincent
said
my
body
had
been
shutting
down
through
18
months
of
mayo
and
Saint
Vincent's.
They
found
out
that
it
was
a
bacterial
infection
that
was
going
sepsis
and
causing
liver
failure
in
that
Vision
issues,
and
so
it
kind
of
navigated
through
that.
F
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
normally
I'm
a
little
little
more
on
top
of
measurements
and
making
sure
things
are
correct,
like
that
and
at
that
time
I
it
was
kind
of
went
off
with
what
everyone
thought.
What
the
truth
was-
and
it
just
was
slightly
Incorrect
and
it
was
very
happy
to
find
out
that
we
met
in
500
foot
requirements
so
kind
after
that
time.
I
I
finally
went
to
the
antibiotic
treatment
and
started
to
get
my
mind
about
me
and
my
I
called
my
plumber.
F
I
said
you
know:
go
ahead,
wrap
up
your
permit,
call
your
introduction
and
find
out
that
his
Department
had
expired
through
the
coven
moratorium
of
Duvall
permits
had
been
automatically
extended,
and
this
permit
wasn't
extended
so
I
called
down
and
got
concerned,
and
we
were
three
or
four
days
later.
Maybe
it
was
seven
days
late
for
the
code
moratorium
permit
extension
deadlock
when
I
turned
the
letter
into
Jacksonville
Beach.
F
At
that
point,
I
immediately
went
down
and
met
with
Heather
and
said
you
know.
What
do
we
do
now
and
she
said
Scotty
do
you
have
to
start
all
over
again
and
you
lose
your
parking
and
examine
we're
80
built
out
inside
and
especially,
we
have
to
keep
fighting
and
we
have
to
go
through
the
process
and
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
to
make
it
right
and
that's
when
we
started
the
rezoning
when
I
came
in
front
of
you
guys
last
time,
all
right
now
so
now,
I'm
back.
G
Where
it
is
I
think
that
yeah
seem
to
propose
was
where
they
wanted
the
two
office
and
Retail
sections
in
there.
So
we
had
added
those
I
can't
see
the
picture
so
I'm
not
exactly.
F
So
the
parking
was
in
the
Landscaping
was
the
main
change.
I
know
one
side
where
the
dumpster
Corral
is
in
that
right,
corner
I
know
when
there
was
discussion
about
adding
parking
in
the
rear
of
the
building.
My
concern
was:
is
that
the
dumpster
crowd
is
not
quite
represented
correctly
in
the
schematic
drawing
and
it
encroaches
over
more.
F
So
if
we
were
to
make
a
right
away
for
the
parking
in
the
rear,
we
would
need
to
remove
the
dumpster
Corral
and
then,
if
we
made
a
right
away
in
the
back,
we
would
lose
spaces
from
the
front
parking
to
get
to
the
back.
F
So
kind
of
you
know
the
dumpster
crowd
was
sort
of
created
this
whole
problem
when
we
pulled
out
a
cosmetic
permit
and
it
shows
that
there's
a
decent
amount
of
space,
but
it's
on
site.
It's
not
wide
enough
to
be
able
to
pull
the
cars
in
and
have
them
back
out
to
go
straight
out
back
on
second,
so
it
would
need
to
be
removed,
and
there
wasn't
when
we
went
through
Public
Works
I
met
them
out
there
and
went
through
the
whole
process
of
the
location
and
how
they
wanted
it
to
be
set
up.
F
They
said
that
this
was
how
it
needed
to
be
done
for
the
the
trucks
to
pull
in.
Actually,
when
we
dug
the
Footers,
we
had
to
re-dig
them
twice
and
shifted
just
a
foot
over,
so
that
the
truck
could
get
ineffectively
according
to
the
public
works
plan.
So
to
try
to
move
that
dumpster
ground
anywhere
else.
C
Effective
place
it's
pretty
expensive
to
build
too
so
I
have
a
question:
is
it
possible
to
find
out
where
you're
proposed
retail
and
office
spaces
would
be
in
this
layout
I.
F
My
concern,
through
the
whole
process
of
the
length
of
time
that
it's
taken
I,
have
had
to
take
out
a
few
loans
to
keep
the
payments
going
and
everything
moving
forward.
F
My
concern
is,
is
if
we
lose
our
only
outside
seating,
you
know
on
the
beach
people
like
to
eat
and
drink
outside,
and
it's
it's
a
important
Revenue
stream
to
be
able
to
make
up
enough.
It's
going
to
take
a
while
to
to
pay
back
the
loans
that
we
pulled
out
to
trying
to
get
this
to
the
trying
to
get
it
open.
H
So,
with
the
three
proposed
amendments
or
changes
here,
the
one
was
the
making
the
office
and
the
retail
bigger
the
added
Ada
parking
space
and
a
rear
deck
be
removed
from
one
side
party.
Or
do
you
put
that
stand
on
like
making
those
changes?
Is
that
something
that
can
be
done
or
not
done
or
I'm,
not
sure?
So?
On
the
retail
and
the
office
side
that
we
can
do
that
we
can
get
that
set
up
on
the
inside
and
it
worked
out.
H
Okay,
the
biggest
concern
is:
is
the
deck
in
the
back
and
taking
the
dumpster
crowd
down?
Is
not
just
the
overall
expense
of
doing.
F
It
but
at
the
same
time
losing
the
ability
to
have
outside
service
when
the
weather's
good,
and
you
know,
kind
of
feel
like
people
coming
and
ordering
ordering
and
just
kind
of
having
another
side.
You
know
when
people
think
of
a
place
to
go
a
lot
of
times.
They
dismiss
it
if
it
doesn't
have
a
outside
area
where
they
can
step
out
and
get
some
this
in
there.
A
To
be
able
to
turn
back
the
clock
in
life,
you
can't
go
backwards,
just
keep
going
forwards
so
with
the
the
office
and
Retail
in
the
parking.
You
know,
that's
what
we
need
to
do
you
know,
so
we
need
to
do
so.
Can
I
clarify
when
you
refer
to
parking
you're,
referring
to
the
proposed
condition
about
the
Ada
parking
space?
A
In
my
mind,
I
was
thinking
more
along
the
lines
of
purchasing
other
spots
that
are
missing.
That's
where
the
big
expense
is
going
to
be
so
the
site
only
accomplishes
about
half
the
parking
that
the
site
we'd
need
for
the
use.
So
then
there's
another
eight
or
nine
spots
that
we
would
end
up
having
to
buy
from
the
city,
which
would
be
very
expensive,
I
think
they
really
wanted.
You
know
sort
of
thing.
The
department
is
suggesting
that
there'll
be
a
condition
specific
to
a
single
Ada
parking
spot.
Absolutely.
E
D
F
March
On
the
Dark
Side.
Well,
unless
we
can't
couldn't
get
their
cars
back
behind
there,
if
we
would
have
to
remove
the
whole
deck
and
the
damage
the
Corral
to
be
able
to
get
to
the
cars
to
actually
go
in
there
and
then
the
right-of-way
to
access
the
back
portion,
we
would
end
up
losing
a
spacer
tube,
so
it
would
be
all
that
work
for
and
the
dumpster
for
out.
F
There
may
be
two
more
spaces,
so
I
just
think
we're
lucky
and
then
at
that
point,
I'm,
not
sure
where
we
would,
we
would
relocate
the
dumpster
crowd
that
the
truck
could
get
in
at
an
angle
the
way
that
Public
Works
wanted
us
to.
So
yes,
the
way
it's
set
up,
you
have
the
oncoming
traffic
and
they
have
to
go
in
just
on
their
side
of
the
street,
pick
the
dumpster
and
then
go
straight.
Maybe
you
can
push
it
all
the
way
in
the
back.
F
G
F
I
Do
thank
you
just
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
what
Scott
mentioned.
I
The
concerns
that
that
city
council
really
revolved
around
the
500
feet
in
large
part,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
went
out
the
following
week
to
try
and
measure
a
distance
where
we
could
put
a
door,
maybe
on
the
back
of
the
building
or
further
down
one
of
the
streets
to
get
that
entrance
500
feet
away
from
mangoes
in
hopes
of
being
able
to
avoid
that
issue,
and
what
we
found
out
as
Scott
mentioned,
was
that
the
doors
already
are
500
feet
away
from
mangoes
the
way
that
they're
measured
in
our
code,
and
so
we
verified
that
with
Heather
and
because
we
had
already
sought
the
rezoning
rather
than
waiting
the
year
to
file
another
rezoning.
I
We
reapplied
for
another
way,
which
is
a
conditional
use
permit
and
then
some
variances.
So
this
application
is
the
conditional
use
permit
and
commissioner-wise
You
observe
it
is
virtually
the
same
as
the
one
before
on
the
site
plan.
Those
little
boxes
are
about
450
square
feet
on
the
site
plan.
The
board
last
time
said
that
they
should
be
a
thousand
square
feet.
We
have
not
changed
the
site
plan,
but
we
would
be
agreeable
to
the
1000
square
feet
that
was
approved
before
that's,
why
the
boxes
look
a
little
bit
smaller,
but
they
would
get
bigger.
I
We
would
revise
them.
Obviously,
when
we
go
in
for
permitting
the
rest
of
the
situation
on
the
parking,
Scott
did
a
great
job
describing
the
changes
we've
shown,
striped
and
gravel
parking
spaces,
we've
showed
additional
landscaping
and
the
challenges
with
the
dumpster
I
couldn't
have
described
it
better
myself.
The
dumpster
kind
of
is
where
it
is.
If
you
push
it
in
the
back,
then
there's
no
way
to
really
fit
in
parking
and
be
able
to
have
trash
service
in
the
back.
I
You
guys
discussed
last
time
and
because
it's
on
the
other
side
of
the
building
opposite
from
the
residences
that
are
to
the
South,
it's
fully
screened
and
blocked,
and
so
the
the
outside
service,
if
you
will
that
we're
asking
for
really
is
consistent
with
the
commercial
side
of
the
neighborhood.
That
is
further,
so
the
North.
I
The
only
other
thing
that
I'll
mention
is
is
that
there
was
a
condition
in
your
last
approval
regarding
parking,
that's
saying
that
parking
will
have
to
be
provided
prior
to
a
certificate
of
the
use
or
certificate
of
occupancy
being
issued
for
any
of
the
uses,
and
we
would
be
fine
with
that
as
well,
that
that
gave
you
all
I.
Think
in
the
context
of
your
last
conversation
assurance
that
parking
will
be
dealt
with
before
we
open
and
so
we'd
be
comfortable
with
that
condition
being
pulled
forward
into
this
approval
as
well.
I
If,
if
that's
your
desire.
I
I
don't
know
well,
there
was
the
the
parking
was
pulled
forward
again
again,
if,
if
there's
not
a
condition
without
parking
before
we
open
I
mean
we're
still,
gonna
have
to
do
it
anyway,
but
anyway
that's
the
quick
overview
and
without
wing
into
all
the
details.
We
agree
with
staff
when
we
meet
all
the
criteria,
and
we
appreciate
you
guys
taking
this
up
again
tonight.
I
If
we
passed
here
tonight,
we'll
go
in
front
of
the
board
of
adjustment
next
week
to
talk
about
the
the
variances
that
we've
requested,
which
are
primarily
design
related
because
the
building
is
so
old
and
was
built
before
our
lane
development
code.
Thank
you.
B
J
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
this
opportunity,
I
just
wrote
out
the
brief
points
that
I
knew
in
this
case.
Some
of
this
is
a
little
repetitive,
but
took
two
minutes
to
read
through
this,
not
sure
you
try
to
read
through
a
test,
but
when
Scott
bought
his
property
and
liquor
license,
it
was
a
functioning
bar
that
was
in
disrepair
and
poorly
managed.
He
wanted
to
improve
the
location
and
atmosphere
of
the
place
he
submitted
plans
to
the
city
to
do
this,
and
these
were
approved.
J
He
agreed
all
of
the
location
to
the
spec,
the
city
that
approved
the
city
came
out
for
final
inspection
and
they
moved
the
goal
post
saying
he
needed
an
enclosed
trash
area.
This
added
forty
thousand
dollars
to
the
side
costs
tends
to
lose
two
parking
spaces
and
push
the
completion
date
into
2020..
J
At
the
time
the
space
was
wrapping
up,
the
Federal
Government
needs
to
cause
occupation
and
all
of
its
employees.
Non-Essential
Scott
had
to
lay
off
over
100
people
to
shut
down
to
a
casino
on
many
people
psychologically
and
physically.
At
this
point,
Scott's
Health
failed
and
he
was
in
and
out
of
the
Mayo
Clinic
and
had
a
death
store
for
many
months.
I
personally
visited
him
and
witnessed
this
struggle
when
he
came
to.
He
was
three
days
past
the
deadline
for
a
final
inspection.
J
To
reiterate
this
inspection
would
have
been
completed
one
year
earlier.
If
the
city
had
inspected
the
original
Appliance
they
had
approved
and
or
it
would
have
been
completed,
as
the
government
had
not
told
him
to
go
home
and
stop
working
continuity's
added
burden,
Scott
missed
his
second
final
inspection
deadline
by
three
bills.
The
city
took
the
zoning
away
that
the
building
had
held
for
50
years.
J
This
is,
he
is
said,
to
pay
out
many
thousands
of
dollars
to
quote
the
interest
on
this
unproductive
business
and
it's
been
a
high
score
to
the
local
area
voice
and
then
once
brought
her
attention
to
there
being
a
difference
between
the
letter
and
the
spirit
of
the
law
in
Alaska
to
complete
what
he
has
started
and
personally
I've
been
in
many
of
his
establishments
and
they're
great,
and
we
did
do
upcoming
before
the
board.
J
J
B
K
Opposition
to
this
application,
if
you
look
at
my
handout
start
on
pages
one
and
two
shown
by
the
members
on
the
top,
this
was
drafted
by
staff
highlighted
in
pink,
are
all
the
areas
referenced
as
far
six
times
is
a
referenced,
a
bar?
Never
is
it
reference
a
restaurant
or
even
a
bar,
slash
restaurant.
So,
let's
move
on
to
Pages
three
through
six
of
the
handout
answers
for
standard
applicable
to
use.
We
start
to
see
the
conditional
use
become
layered
now
highlighted
in
yellow
bar
slash
restaurant
eight
times
at
a
restaurant
or
bar.
K
What
is
it
more
sunshine
or
more
news
John
itself?
This
is
the
misrepresentation
at
its
highest
order,
regardless
the
intent
is
distributed
and
unclear.
So
on
that
issue,
a
lot
of
this
application
should
be
dismissed.
However,
should
you
elect
to
move
forward,
then
you
must
ask
yourself
to
what
degrees
is
involved
versus
a
restaurant,
because
whether
it
is
more
bar,
more
restaurant,
this
will
add
Clarity
and
substance
to
the
standards
and
criteria
applied.
You
can
re
horse
or
cow,
but
you
can't
be
both.
K
K
Is
this
applicant
going
to
serve
the
same
percentage
of
food
that
these
businesses
did,
but
even
if
it's
a
restaurant
there's
just
one
or
two
of
the
staff
report
says
it's
a
dollar
so
bars
or
restaurants
are
not
cut
through
its
own
cloth
and
if
the
staff
got
it
wrong,
then
what
else
to
draw
with
this
analysis?
No
matter
what
the
buyer
came,
the
purchase
of
the
Legacy
license.
K
K
Downtown
district:
it's
it's
absurd
and
true
that
it
is
Adam
a
bar
and
saying
it
doesn't
have
an
adverse
effect.
It's
just
untrue
and
if
you
don't
believe
me,
ask
Chief
Smith
how
much
do
you
want
to
put
on
the
backs
of
our
police
force
down
there
before
you
break
them?
Senator
class
is
a
bar
consistent
with
the
goals
of
your
car
plan.
Absolutely
not
look
at
page
four
with
my
handout
and
you
won.
K
The
comp
plan
talks
about
quality
life
in
John
speech,
in
what
the
universe
is,
adding
a
bar
after
the
quality
of
life
to
the
citizens
thousand
one,
how
about
the
quality
of
life
for
our
police?
The
last
thing
they
need
is
another
bar
to
oversee.
In
fact,
I
talked
to
Chief
Smith.
Today,
the
applicant
kneel
staff
even
contacted
him
to
talk
about
the
quality
of
life,
to
our
thoughts.
K
K
If
our
restaurant
but
Larry
shot
sub,
this
is
Bose
headlines.
Just
just
today,
bar
a
bit
says
she
was
a
gay
bar
owner.
Okay,
not
a
restaurant.
A
A
Okay
and
so
I
I
cannot
do
this.
I
G
A
I
We've
been
very
transparent.
This
is
a
bother
it's
going
to
be
serving
food.
There
is
going
to
be
a
food
component
and
so
I
guess
what
we
were
trying
to
illustrate
in
the
and
I
think
what
the
staff
was
trying
to
illustrate
is.
There
is
going
to
be
a
food
component
of
the
facility,
so
it's
it's.
It's
it's
not
going
to
reach
the
level
of
51.
That's
required
for
an
SRX
license.
I
Mr
McAllister
as
a
former
cop
licensure,
also
known
as
a
quota
license
they're
Limited
in
Jacksonville,
Beach,
so
I
think
only
10
or
12
in
the
entire
city,
and
so
this
location,
if
it,
if
it
doesn't
go
here,
this
liquor
license,
will
travel
somewhere
that
meets
the
requirement,
and
so
we've
been
clear
about
it.
I
It's
a
bond
when
we're
not
trying
to
hide
as
a
restaurant,
pretending
to
be
our
pretending
to
be
a
restaurant,
we're
just
making
a
point
that
we
are
going
to
be
serving
food,
and
so
all
of
the
points
that
Mr
Marsh
made
are
interesting,
but
we've
been
transparent
about
what
we
are.
It's
the
same
thing
that
this
body
considered
before
it's
virtually
the
same
as
what
was
approved
before
and
again.
We
just
appreciate
the
consideration
and
we'll
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
may
have.
I
You
know
I,
don't
think
it
really
matters.
I
know.
I
G
E
A
Okay,
so
no
no
final
questions
for
the
afternoon,
so
I'm
going
to
close
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
the
item
back
to
the
board
for
discussion.
We've
heard
the
Department's
position,
ing
applicants.
A
Do
we
have
a
motion,
and
once
we
do,
let's
please
you
know
talk
about.
Just
was
thinking
about
you.
A
E
Yeah
I
guess,
where
I,
where
I'm
at
right
now
is
you
can't
take
away
this
out
like
the
outdoor
seating
on
on
a
restaurant,
slash
bar
otherwise
I
mean
they're
willing
to
pay
down
the
parking
spots
right
and
what
do
you
think
of
Justin.
H
E
M
I
agree
with
them
just
I
think
that
the
parking
is
going
to
be
solved
regardless
right.
You
have
to
either
buy
his
way
out
of
it
or
they're
going
to
have
that
I
think
that
is
a
decision
that
they
have
to
make
based
on
what
they
think
is
best
for
the
business
and
I
would
actually
agree
that
I've
never
seen
these
drugs
are
a
critical
form.
I
do
occur
that
they
need
to
expand
to
a
thousand
feet.
M
Minimum
aggregate
for
retail
office
space,
because
I
think
that
the
on
the
strolling
right
here
they
just
look
really
small
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
use
anybody
would
get
after
this
I
think
a
thousand
square
feet
is
the
minimum,
for
both
of
those
and
aggregate
is,
is
something
we
should
ask
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
concerns
about
it
being
a
bar
or
a
restaurant,
or
anything
like
that,
the
fact
the
matter
is
is
a
bar
for
50
years
and
I.
M
Don't
really
need
to
be
inconsistent
with
what
has
been
there
and
until
the
pandemic
hit,
frankly
would
have
been
there.
Continuing
all
the
reasons
aside.
I
guess
my
point
is:
is
that
I
think
it's
just
consistent
with
its
uses
to
work
like
sure
so
I
would
ask
the
question
if,
if
we're
concerned
about
a
thousand
feet
and
the
retail
sales
and
the
food
to
make
it
not
be
a
bar,
but
we've
heard
it's
been
a
bar,
it's
been
a
bar,
it's
been
a
bar.
They
wanted
to
be
a
bar
too
yeah.
M
So
so
why
do
you
care
about
the
eternal
Department
know
the
internal
space
for
food
and
office?
So
in
my
effort
so
far
in
my
mind,
that's
a
little
bit
more
about
making
it
a
true.
Okay,
I've
been
separating
the
two
discussions
here
right,
whether
it's
a
bar
or
a
restaurant,
the
majority
of
it
will
be
a
bar
right,
so
we.
M
H
So
it
would
be
if
with
the
parking,
if
they
left
the
office
in
retail,
you
know
clearly
those
are
there
right
now
it's
going
to
be,
they
need
some
retail
place
to
put
sell
some
t-shirts
on
the
wall
and
they
need
an
office
place.
So
a
manager
can
sit
and
can't
learn
anything
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
then
you
know
shoebox
to
do
it
they're
trying
to
put
that
in
there
also,
because
it
saves
them
a
couple
parking
spaces
at
the
end
of
the
day.
H
G
Buy
and
where,
when
are
we
supposed
to
buy
these
parking
glasses
do
the
chair,
but.
D
I'll
do
a
quick
example
agent,
so
in
the
downtown
central
business
district,
there
is
a
fund
that
the
city
class
94
for
the
purposes
of
building
improved
parking
in
the
future,
in
this
case,
currently
parking
garages
on
some
of
the
service
lots
that
we
have,
which
would
then
provide
more
parking.
Applicants
have
the
option,
if
occurred
by
the
planning
director
to
pay
per
parking
space
fee
in
lieu
of
providing
parking
that
they're
required
to
have
so
in
the
downtown.
D
They're
requesting
the
mixed
use
element,
because
that
gives
them
as
a
shopping
center
under
our
code,
a
different
standard
and
I
think
I
misspoke
earlier,
but
in
the
central
business
district,
a
shopping
center
is
one
from
for
500.,
so
it's
significantly
less
amount
of
property.
They
have
to
provide
and
pay
for
and
to
Justin's
Point.
These
have
to
be
separate
spaces
they're
not
for
use
by
the
restaurant
they're
other
businesses
in
essence,
so
they
create
more
activity
out
the
street.
M
D
E
A
Can
I
can
I
just
introduce
the
idea
of
there?
There
is
a
condition
proposed
about
the
Ada
Parkinson
I.
D
I
The
yeah
Madam
chair,
because
you're
offering
conditions-
and
we
would
have
to
agree
to
them
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
would
agree
to
the
thousand
square
feet
that
was
proposed
from
last
time,
and
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
that,
on
the
record
that
we
would
agree
with
that
thousand
square
feet.
If
that's
the
will
of
the
commission
to
adopt
that
as
a
condition.
I
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
regardless
that
I
think
what
you're
trying
what
may
be
trying
to
be
done
is
to
ensure
that
it's
truly
a
mixed
use
project
and
that's
why
the
condition
will
be
on
there
that
thousand
square
feet,
although
it's
not
in
the
code,
has
always
been
kind
of
a
rule
of
thumb
that
Mr
Popoli
in
this
Ireland's
predecessor
used,
and
so
it's
not
unusual.
For
example,
the
space
next
door
to
oku
a
thousand
square
feet
was
the
was
kind
of
the
goal
same
thing
on
Surfer.
I
M
Just
one
point:
there's
announced
a
parking
right,
that's
I
believe
it
either
you
buy
your
way
out
or
you
have
to
supply
the
parking.
So
yes,
that's
kind
of
the
Enlightenment
right.
M
There
is
a
quite
a
bit
of
parking
available
around.
If
there
is
a
public
parking,
a
lot
two
blocks
away,
I,
don't
think
unnecessarily
burn
the
neighborhood
to
not
have.
G
E
And
I
don't
think
it
does,
because
it's
been
a
bar
for
50
plus
years,
not
only
that
we
have
this
beautifully
printed
out
under
lu1.
It's
provide
continued
high
quality
of
life
in
Jacksonville
Beach
for
applying
for
population
growth,
public
and
private
development,
and
Redevelopment
feels
like
it
fits
in.
Actually
perfectly
I
would
also
point
out
that
it
is
currently
in
the
political
condition
right
it's
been
taken
for
a
bit,
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
been
some
work
done
to
it,
but
it
has
been
baking
for
three
years
and.
M
E
E
H
D
Big
question
from
our
city:
thank
you.
Our
Engineers
parking.
We
weren't.
It
is
the
center
of
business
district,
so
we
assume
that
there
will
be
more.
Is
this
an
activity
and
noise
and,
like
I,
understand
that
there's
existing
residential
there,
but
the
predominance
of.
E
M
L
E
M
So
the
question:
what's
the
purpose,
what's
the
purpose
of
the
amendment
is
that
the
Mind
planning
just
to
be
clear
on
this
is
that
the
motion
is
to
amend
approval
without
any
conditions,
to
the
one
condition
being
that
the
minimum
aggregate
square
footage
we'll
go
through
retail
on
office
space
will
be.
G
D
Expensive
do
the
chair
you
just
offer
some.
It's
like
the
we
filled
in
anything
smaller
than
that.
We'll
have
practical
limitations
on
being
able
to
accomplish
a
natural
officer
to
retail
use
and
meet
all
the
building
code
and
fire
code
requirements.
They
thought
Patrick
square
feet
was
a
reasonable
minimum
for
each
use.
E
Last
question:
for
you:
why
did
you
I
know
the
the
deck
the
wood
that
come
back?
You
made
it
poor
partnership
because
that's,
why
didn't
you
think?
Okay,
maybe
let
them.
D
Buy
it
out
if
they
want
to,
they
have
the
option
to
buy
it
out.
We
just
felt
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
provide
more
parking
for
the
Patriots
outside
right
there
versus
basically
a
day
into
a
thumb
in
the
city,
builds
a
garage
sometime
in
the
future,
literally
when
it's
going
to
happen
where
that
garage
necessarily
so
immediately,
this
would
provide
additional
parking
on
site
for
patrons
exactly
thank
you.