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Collective Bargaining Meeting 061022
A
D
What
I
was
going
to
do
first
is
thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
morning.
We
look
forward
to
working
through
the
ground
rules.
Today
I
wanted
to
what
I
usually
do,
and
I
did
not
do
it
the
last
time,
but
I
usually
have
two
sign-in
sheets
so
that
each
party
has
an
original,
and
I
failed
to
do
that
the
last
time,
but
we
had
one.
So
I
had
a
an
exact
copy
made
and
you
can
compare
the
original
to
this
one
when
we
caucus
that
way.
We
don't
take
up
that.
C
D
Time,
but
this
is
for
you
and
we
can
you
can
compare
that
and
so
for
today.
I
also
have
two
sign-in
sheets
and
I'll:
ask
that
everybody
signing
both
that
way.
We
all
have
an
original
of
the
of
the
day
that
we
were
there
and
for
my
new
team
members.
I
guess
what
we'll
do
is:
go
ahead
and
we'll
introduce
our
team
again
we'll
go.
E
D
F
G
G
H
A
I
J
G
D
I
believe
that
we're
waiting
for
the
union
to
present
their
side
of
the
proposed
ground
rules,
and
so
we'll
do
that
and
then,
as
we
have
before,
I
know
that
we
have
exchanged
some
dates
for
some
future
negotiations,
so
at
the
very
end,
we'll
take
care
of
logistical
issues,
and
I
would
like
to
at
least
set
the
next
one
or
two
sessions
before
we
leave
here
today,
so
that
we
know
you
know.
We
know
what
the
schedule
is
and-
and
we
can
work
on
that.
You.
D
A
E
D
So
the
ones
that
he
sent
me
he
sent
me,
and
maybe
he
sent
me
some
some
more
recently.
So
this
is
what
my
question
is.
I
have
some
I
received
on
5
12
2022
and
it
was
rothbard.
I
sent
them
to
you
and
copied
me
to
charlie.
He
copied
me
and
he
stated
that
these
carlos
and
roxy
these
were
the
only
ground
rules
I
had
in
my
files
for
laredo.
I
do
not
think
these
were
the
final
draft,
so
that
that's
what
I
have
is
that
what
you're
referring
to
yes.
B
D
A
The
only
one
of
the
big
one
of
the
issues
from
the
last
ground
rules
is,
it
is
a
signed
copy,
except
it
couldn't
be
confirmed
on
our
part.
Like
I
say,
one
of
the
individuals
has
a
sign
he
doesn't
require,
he
doesn't
recall
any
sign
rules
and
then
the
other
other
individual,
which
is
president
passed.
D
A
A
B
D
A
A
Because
I
mean
the
city,
you
know
we
still
need
to
maintain
our
contact
with
our
with
our
councilman.
If
they
ask
us,
you
know
we
can't
just
outright
deny
you
know
any
information.
We
can't
open
up
of
any
information,
but
at
the
same
time
they
also
you
know
as
they're
getting
information
it'd
be
good
for
them
to
understand
both
sides,
both
perspectives
of
what's
being
negotiated,
not
just
a
one-sided.
A
B
J
To
be
able
to
make
the
best
decision,
while
they're
up
there
on
the
values
right
and
voting
on
this
contract,
so
if
they
have
all
the
information
I
mean
a
good.
A
good
representative
of
their
people
is
going
to
be
asking
all
the
questions
that
need
to
be
so
they
can
come
up
to
a
sound
decision
and
make
a
vote.
That's
right,
so
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day
we're
approached.
We
are
able
to
give
our
perspective
of
how
the
contract
position
is
going,
but,
like
charlie
says,
if,
in.
D
Now
we
have
we,
you
know
this.
I
have
to
answer
questions
to
my
clients,
which
includes
the
city
councils,
to
make
sure
that
they
they
understand
what
was
passed
at
the
table
and
was
discussed
and
the
issues
at
stake.
And,
of
course
this
is.
This
is
why
it's
called
negotiations,
because
we
have
two
different
positions
and
we
just
have
to
at
least
at
the
end
of
the
day,
figure
out.
How
do
we
bridge
those
together
so
and
that's
another
reason
that
this
meeting
is
open?
People
can
review
it.
D
When
there's
a
side
conversation
going
on
and
we
we're
not
even
privy,
you
know,
there
may
be
other
information
that
we
need
to
discuss
here
at
the
table
and
somebody
maybe
forgot
to
say
something
or
you
know
things
like
that.
So
those
that's
the
reason
that
it's
here
and
we
were
not
really
doing
anything
more
than
what
was
our
on
this
particular
section.
That
was
already
agreed
to
and
done
last
last
time
around.
D
So
so
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
take
your
your
proposed
ground
rules
and
we'll
review
them,
and
what
we're
going
to
look
to
is
the
intent
and
the
purpose
of
these
ground
rules
and
what
they're
supposed
to
serve
and
and
we'll
work
on
them
and
we'll
we're
going
to
caucus
and
then
we'll,
hopefully
come
up
with
a
proposal.
Maybe
that
can
we
can
agree
to.
F
F
B
D
A
D
D
D
A
D
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
all
for
your
patience.
As
we
were
discussing,
we
had
some
technical
issues
on
our
side
as
well,
so
it
took
a
little
bit
longer
than
anticipated,
but
we
thank
you
for
your
proposal
on
the
ground
rules
in
reviewing
the
proposal
on
the
ground
rules.
There's
a
lot
that
is
not
addressed
in
the
ground
rules.
Most.
C
D
It
seems
and
then
in
reviewing
your
comments
and
discussion
about
the
proposed
ground
rules
that
we
had
the
last
row
around
on,
I
think
it
was
may
20th.
If
I
recall
correctly,
it
all
comes
down
to
the
contact
issue
and
and
the
contact
between
the
with
respective
parties
during
the
negotiations
and
in
your
proposal
the
paragraph
that's
that
states
this
says
all
negotiations
shall
be
conducted
exclusively
between
the
designated
bargaining
representatives
of
the
city
and
the
union.
D
We
agree
with
that.
Neither
party
shall
make
any
effort
to
bypass
such
representatives
of
the
other
party
during
collective
bargaining
for
a
new
contract
unless
an
impasse
exists
is
defined
by
section
174.152
of
the
texas
local
government
code
that
meaning
that
we've
arrived
at
that
process
that
is
statutorily
defined
as
impasse.
D
Pursuant
to
the
collective
bargaining
agreement,
the
issue
we
have
the
major
issue
that
we
have
is
that
the
next
sentence
is
in
direct
conflict
to
the
previous
sentence
that
I
just
read,
and
it
says
nothing
in
this
section
shall
be
construed
to
preclude
the
union
bargaining
team,
from
communicating
with
its
members,
staff,
the
city
manager
and
city
council
and
and
the
issue
that
we
have
is
the
communication
with
the
city
manager
and
the
city
council.
Because,
as
we
discussed,
we
have
designated
bargaining
teams
under
the
collective
bargaining
process
under
chapter
174.
D
So
what
what
I
have
done
and
we
took
that
into
consideration-
I
use
I
use
some
of
the
language.
I
use
the
language
that
you
propose
here
and
I
have
proposed
I
have
added
to,
and
I
just
used
the
last
one
that
we
did
just
because
it
explains
like
the
processes.
So,
there's
no
confusion
as
to
how
the
everything
is
kept
and
what
the
purpose
is
and
why
we
even
have
these
ground
rules
and
what
we're
gonna
accompl.
What
we're
wanting
to
accomplish
here.
So
let
me
I'll
keep
one
for
myself.
D
D
The
ground
rules
may
be
modified
and
riding
by
mutual
agreement
of
the
parties.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
that,
that
we
establish
a
purpose
and
everybody's
understanding.
Why
we're
here?
And
and
that's
because
we
recognize
how
important
the
firefighters
are
to
the
city
and
the
city.
The
city's
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
our
firefighters
are
adequately
compensated
at
a
competitive
rate
and
also
be
able
to
maintain
their
employ,
that
we
can
sustain
the
department
and
the
employment
of
all
the
firefighters
and
continue
to
be
doing
this.
D
D
D
D
It
also
says
that
nothing
in
these
ground
rules
shall
prevent
or
preclude
any
bargaining
team
from
having
members
presence
for
purposes
of
consultation,
confirmation
of
facts,
figures,
processes
and
procedures,
and
each
bargaining
team
may
be
free,
may
freely
consult
to
seek
advice
from
respected
personnel.
Who
may
sit
behind
the
team
and
be
available
for
con
consultation.
D
D
Oh,
I
just
saw
on
another
typo
excuse
me,
so
it's
another
section
too,
but
we
can
fix.
That
is
the
authority
of
the
chief
negotiators
and
again
this
sets
out
the
chief
negotiators
authority.
Basically
saying
you
have
authority
over
your
own
team
and
the
lead
negotiator
on
the
city
has
the
authority
over
their
own.
D
D
D
It's
at
the
bottom
of
page
two,
and
I
can
go
through
it.
If
you
want
on
to
the
authority
of
the
chief
negotiators,
the
chief
negotiator
for
each
party
shall
have
the
authority
to
lead
the
negotiations
and
shall
be
responsible
for
maintaining
order
with
respect
to
his
or
her
respective
bargaining
team
v.
Only
the
chief
negotiator
of
each
party
may
authorize
or
allow
members
of
the
bargaining
team
to
address
a
point
or
make
a
presentation,
and
that's
put
from
your
own
bargaining
team.
D
Tentative
agreements
that
are
in
writing
and
initial
by
the
chief
negotiators
shall
be
treated
as
concluded
and
off
the
table,
thereby
allowing
the
parties
to
proceed
to
the
other
issues
d.
The
parties
understand
and
agree
that
tentative
agreements
shall
not
be
implemented
during
the
bargaining
process.
D
J
B
D
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
limit
that
yeah.
I
don't
want
to
limit
that,
but
for
the
purposes
of
moving
forward
you
know
there's
certain
items
that
we're
working
through.
For
instance,
you
know
we're
probably
all
going
to
start
with.
You
know.
These
articles
are
okay,
we're
going
to
tam
because
there's
no
changes,
something
like
that
and.
J
D
Right
and
and
I'm
I'm
making
that
commitment
to
you
that
we're
not
going
to
limit
that
or
create,
let
that
be
an
obstacle.
I
think
that
the
the
reason
that
it's
written
this
way
is
that,
once
we
have
a
tentative
agreement,
it's
an
issue
that
has
been
resolved
unless
it's
brought
up
by
another
party.
Saying
hey,
you
know
now.
This
tentative
agreement
now
has
to
change,
because
there
is
an
issue
in
this
other
article
where
this
new
law
just
came
out.
D
Where
you
know
some
legislation
just
passed
that
now
we
have
to
address
it
again
or
now
we're
dealing
with
this
article
and
we
we
need
to
either
define
something
or
change
the
definition
we
go
back
and
usually
we
do
definitions
at
the
end.
But
that's
open
for
discussion
there's
nothing
that
prevents
that.
A
D
Be
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
consider
any
proposed
language
with
that
intent,
okay,
but
but
remember
that
when
we're
working
through
this,
if
everything's
just
kind
of
hanging
in
the
air,
you
know
that
may
create
an
obstacle
to
moving
forward.
We
will
address
tentative
agreements
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
the
issues
come
up
and
if
it's
relevant
to
another
issue.
Okay,.
J
D
So
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
I
have
done
with
you
know
related
articles
where
one
has
an
impact
on
a
potential
article
that
we
just
haven't
touched
yet
is
that
we
verbally
agree
to
the
language
as
it
goes
subject
to
how
the
other
article
will
affect
it
kind
of
deal
and,
and
we
can
package
those
kind
of
and
talk
about
them.
At
the
same
time,
probably
better
yeah.
C
A
A
D
This
contract
has
to
be
think
about.
I
mean
this
contract's,
a
very
big
document,
and
it
encompasses
a
lot
of
very
important
things,
and
the
thing
that
we
want
it
to
do
is
make
sense
and
flow
and
work
together.
We
don't
want
a
contract
that
works
against.
You
know
where
one
article
is
in
conflict
with
the
other,
so
so
I
agree.
D
D
Okay,
section:
three
negotiation
sessions:
now
you
have
proposed
in
your
ground
rules
that
we
would
have
a
minimum
of
once
a
week
every
thursday
like
for
you
know
every
week
I
actually
we
looked
at
it
and
I
get
I
get
what
that's
doing,
but
I
feel
like
it
may
be,
limiting
or
pigeon
holiness,
and
not
giving
us
the
information
that
we
need
or
the
proposals
that
we
need
to
get
done.
I
think
that,
as
I
was
discussing
before
at
the
beginning
of
the
new
negotiations,.
D
So,
on
section
one
right:
the
bargaining
teams
on
section
two
bargaining,
kings
b.
We
left
blank
because
we
still
don't
we're
not
clear.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
have
designated
lead
negotiators
yet
yes,
so
that
would
be
the
two
lead
negotiators
would
be
end
and
or
so
it
would
be,
god
was
it
would
be
you
and
I
don't
know
who
the
other
one
is.
D
D
And
so
I
think
I
think,
for
for
you,
you
can
propose
to
change
it
to
on
scene.
We
just
listed
instead
of
my
name.
We
just
put
lead
negotiators.
We
could
do
that
for
your
team.
I
didn't
know
who
was
going
to
be
there,
so
we
can.
You
shall
be
the
lead
negotiators
and
then
plus
the
one
two
three
four
five.
Six
and,
of
course
the
lead
negotiators
will
not
be
included
in
the
in
the
six
spots
that
would
be
taken
up.
Do
you
understand
the
concept?
Okay.
A
D
D
Oh,
I
get
it
I
see
and
then
y'all
can
name.
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
name
an
alternate.
What
we
did
it
is
we
we
listen
to
the
departments
just
depending
on
the
availability
of
city
staff,
because
they
have
obligations.
Of
course,
so
we
designated
somebody
from
we
put
the
health
and
benefits
division
or
the
finance
department,
depending
on
what
the
issues
are
that
day
and
availability.
D
H
D
D
D
D
D
And
then
we
discussed
this
at
the
last
time
three
b
negotiation
sessions.
Negotiation
sessions
shall
be
scheduled
to
allow
for
up
to
eight
hours
of
negotiations
in
caucus
time
and
will
not
last
more
than
eight
hours
unless
circumstances
dictate
otherwise
as
determined
by
the
respective
bargaining
piece-
and
this
is
this
was
placed
in
here
so
that
you
know
when
we're
bargaining
and
we're
bargaining
for
a
long
time
and
we're
dealing
with
some
very
you
know.
D
So
some
big
issues,
lots
of
numbers-
lots
of
you-
know,
operation
stuff,
you
know
what
whatever
it
is.
It
comes
out
there's
some
information
that
has
to
be
processed
and
discussed
and
that
that
takes
that.
That
takes
a
lot
of
time,
thought
and
effort
from
both
parties,
and
so
in
order
to
facilitate
a
more
productive
negotiation
session.
D
We
would
we
sought
to
limit
it
to
the
eight
hours
to
the
full
eight
hours
so
that,
if
there's
a
reason
to
or
if
there's
more
information
needed
or
some
rest
needed
or
somebody
we
can
come
back
with
a
clear
head,
we
can
do
so
and
you
can
do
so
under
the
open
meetings
act
once
we.
If
we
decide
to
continue
the
meeting
to
the
next
day,
that's
a
possibility.
You
know
not
not
saying
like
okay,
we're
just
not
going
to
meet
until
again.
D
D
Yes,
yeah
yeah,
because
on
this,
if
the
way
that
this
is
written
unless
circumstances
dictate
otherwise
as
determined
by
the
respective
bargaining
teams-
and
I
think
that
you
know-
I
think
it
would
probably
have
to
be
yeah-
we
would
have
to
we
would
adjourn,
but
I
think
it
it
would
work
better
if
it
was
by
mutual
agreement.
If
we
went
to
the
next
day
and
depending
on
the
circumstances,
I
I
don't,
I
do
not
foresee
an
issue
with
that
whatsoever.
E
A
A
I
D
I
was
not
gonna,
I
I
did
not
propose
any
limitations
and
I
think
that,
although
that
it
seems
that
it's
not
a
caucus,
time
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
process.
So
I
I
didn't.
I
do
not
seek
to
limit
that.
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna
limit
the
the
union
team
and
I
would
hope
that
you're
not
gonna
limit
us
in
in
trying
trying
to
obtain
information
or
discuss
this
or
come
to
a
resolution
of
what
we
need
to
propose
or
maybe
not
limit.
A
Our
issue
is
to
be
able
to
use
it
as
a
productive
time.
Instead
of
just
you
know,
carrying
on
and
carrying
on,
you
know
it's
kind
of
delay
the
meeting
you
know
next
amount
of
hours
and
that's
heating
up
into
the
proposed
eight-hour
time.
You
know
we're
not
actually
gonna
get
any
negotiating
done
with
some
unfortunate
circumstances,
so
it's
kind
of
to
curtail
that
you
know
and
to
be
using
the
time
productivity
for
that
lead.
D
So
I
think
that
this
is
what
what
I
would
propose
in
the
way
that
I
read
it
and
the
way
that
I
I
envision
it
is
that
the
eight
hours
of
negotiation
and
caucus
time
would
start
from
the
date
from
the
from
the
time
that
it's
posted,
for
instance,
today
was
posted
at
nine.
I
myself
had
a
caucus
before
the
meeting
with
with
my
team
and
that
you
can
have
you.
Can
you
can
do
that
as
well
once
adjourned
and
the
eight,
I
believe,
the
eight
hour.
D
The
way
I
envision
it,
the
eight
hours
is
going
to
start
from
whatever
the
the
posted
time
is,
and
I
would
include
caucus
time
and
because
it
is,
we
have
to
have
the
ability
to
discuss
and
come
out
an
open
session
and
discuss
it.
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
important
once
the
meeting
is
adjourned.
That
does
not
prevent
you
from
going
into
caucus
again
if
necessary,
especially
if
you're
gonna,
if
we
foresee
or
agree
that
we
need
to
continue
recess
until
the
next
day.
D
D
And
sometimes
depending
I
mean
you,
you've
done
this
before
enough
times
where
you
know,
when
there's
a
big
article
that
requires
information,
you
know
we'll
meet
in
the
morning
and
say:
okay
and
we'll
you
know
somebody
will
receive
a
proposal
and
say:
okay,
we
we
need
time
we're
going
to
caucus,
but
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
have
to
be
we're
going
to
have
to
continue
at
another
date.
You
know
because
we
have
to
have
so.
We
need
to
look
at
this.
D
For
instance,
if
it's
wages
or
an
economic,
we
have
to
go
and
we
have.
We
can't
respond
without
costing
and
evaluating
and
going
and
doing
stuff
like
that.
So
so
there
will
be
those
those
times
when
that
happens,
and-
and
it's
just
you
know
it's
just-
we
just
have
to
let
the
process
work
and-
and
my
the
envisionment
of
these
ground
rules
is
to
allow.
D
D
A
I
think
the
intent
of
it
is
to
you
know
we
are
going
to
be
a
prolonged
caucus,
because
you
know
factors
or
figures
are
being
worked
out
and
we
come
back
after
an
hour
two
hours
to
be
able
to
like
okay,
instead
of
stopping
it
there.
Let's
continue
that
work,
you
know
and
it's
gonna
push
beyond
the
eight
hours.
It's
not
a
hard
line.
Where
hey
it's
four,
I'm
sorry,
we
just
came
out
caucus.
You
know
half
an
hour
ago
and
we'll
talk
about
this
tomorrow
to
be
able
to
continue
to
work
like
I
said.
J
Just
like
the
process-
and
I
think
that's
what
I
mean-
I
guess
instead
of
like
taking
hours
at
a
time
and
just
separating
from
the
caucus
and
you
take
the
whole
team
to
the
room.
I
mean
everybody
here
at
the
table
specialize
in
certain
articles
and
what
we're
working
on
would
we
be
able
to
break
up
into
a
committee,
and
then
your
team
goes
and
works
on
that,
while
we're
still
continuing
the
contract
in
the
other
articles
and
touch
on
those,
and
we
can
keep
the
process
going
forward
in
a
timely
manner.
J
D
So
so
that
is
just
a
fact
dependent
on
who
I
have
available
for
my
team
and
whether
anybody
who
goes
to
the
subcommittee,
whether
I
need
them
to
to
be
able
to
hear
the
presentation
or
discussion
on
the
other
proposal
and-
and
so
I
think,
that's
going
to
be
on
a
you
know
case-by-case
basis
based
on
that.
But
but
that's
a
possibility
that
we
we
can
talk
about
and
work
through
as
we
go.
J
E
I
D
D
So
that
can
happen
because
it's
working
something
out
getting
factual
issues
taken
care
of,
and
then
it's
presented
at
the
public
table.
Yes,
so
that
can
happen
on
on
a
non-negotiation
day
is
if
you
know,
if
we
discuss,
you
know
what
subcommittees
and
what
issues
are
going
to
be
talking
about
or
say
it's
a
financial
deal,
and
we
need
to
appoint
somebody
from
our
team
and
your
team
to
go
work
out
factual
issues
or
some.
D
J
J
We
set
our
guys
with
expertise
on
the
side
with
city
team
at
the
same
time
and
they're
going
over
it
and
we're
still
working
on
other
articles,
and
it's
been
to
the
point
where
they're
actually
at
that
table
and
they're
working
it
out
they're
still
in
in
the
room
and
listening
to
the
conversation
that's
going
on,
and
then
they
once
they
get
a
resolution
to
it.
They
come
back
down
this
into
the
table.
We
come
back
to
it
like
okay,
you
know
what
now
we
have
an
understanding.
J
D
D
We
also
want
to
utilize
the
the
time
outside
of
negotiations
in
order
to
provide
you
facts
or
obtain
information
from
you
that
way,
we
can
have
it
available
for
the
day
of
negotiation
and
for
our
caucus
before
the
negotiation
and
after
okay.
So
there's
no,
you
don't
need
a
public
notice
to
for
y'all
to
meet.
You
know
for
your
negotiation
team
to
meet.
We
don't
need
a
public
notice
for
estimate,
because
that's
our
that's
our
caucus,
that
that
is,
that
can
be.
D
That
is
confidential,
because
it's
our
strategy
and
what
we're
going
to
do
at
that
time
same
for
you.
Yes,
it's
the
the
public
meetings
where
we're
actually
discussing
the
articles
and
the
substance
of
the
articles
and
coming
to
agreements
with
it.
That
has
to
happen
here
on
the
table,
like
the
subcommittee
can
understand.
D
Okay
c
under
three
negotiation
sessions,
the
frequency,
the
time
and
the
number
meaning
shall
be
scheduled
with
due
regard
to
the
impasse
deadlines
imposed
under
section
174.152
of
the
texas
local
government
code
or
is
otherwise
extended
by
written
agreement
during
the
negotiation
sessions
either
party
may
be
sorry.
During
the
negotiation
sessions,
either
party
may
request
a
break
or
caucus
during
the
negotiation
sessions.
D
Okay,
is
there
any
question
on
those
section,
five
schedule
of
presentation
of
proposals,
this
kind
of
lays
out
what
the
schedule
is,
as
has
been
done
and
what
was
agreed
to
last
the
last
go-around,
a
the
initial
meetings.
This
was
changed
to
meanings
because
we've
had
more
than
one
shall
be
for
the
following
purposes:
to
set
the
initial
identity
of
each
bargaining,
team,
discussion
and
adoption
of
the
ground
rules
and
three
general
discussion
of
the
schedule,
format,
structure
and
content
of
the
negotiations
b.
D
The
collective
bargaining
process
for
which
purpose
or
purposes
of
impasse,
deadlines
under
chapter
174,
texas,
local
government
code,
shall
not
commence
until
the
first
scheduled
bargaining
meeting
that
which
a
substantive
substantive
proposal
is
tendered
by
one
of
the
parties.
This
shall
be
denominated
as
the
first
bargaining
meeting
for
the
purposes
of
chapter
174,
texas,
local
government
code
c.
The
party's
goal
is
that
the
fourth
bargaining
meeting
and
this
I
added
a
clarification
beginning
from
the
first
bargaining
meeting,
because
once
we
do
the
proposals,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
three.
D
At
least
four
meetings
to
put
everybody's
proposals
out
on
the
table
shall
be.
The
last
shall
be
the
last
meaning
any
new
initial
proposals
may
be
submitted
in
writing
and
presented
by
either
negotiation
team
subject
to
any
mutually
agreed
modification
of
the
schedule
I
think
before
it
may
have.
I
can't
remember
it
was
two
or
three,
but
we
upped
it
to
four,
and
we
had
a
discussion
on
that.
Just
to
allow
us
to
be
able
to
put
every
have
time
to
put
everything
on
the
table.
D
D
Yes,
yes,
the
only
thing
that
the
city
does
pursuant
to
the
texas
open
meetings
act
is
that
we
live
stream.
The
because
it's
a
public
meeting
is
that
we
live
stream,
all
our
public
meetings
and
they're,
archived
and
recorded,
and
then
a
place
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
access
them.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
a
statement.
D
Neither
party
should
unilaterally
issue
a
news
releases
b,
request
for
comment
or
information
about
any
representatives
of
the
media
shall
be
referred
to
the
chief
negotiator
for
each
party,
each
of
whom
is
authorized
to
handle
the
inquiry
at
hand
at
their
own
discretion,
consistent
with
the
spirit
of
these
groundless.
That
would
be
consistent
with
a
again.
We
want
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
good
faith
bargaining
process
and
we
want
to
do
the
bargaining
at
the
table
and
not
in
the
media.
D
C,
when
the
parties
agree
that
a
news
release
is
desirable,
such
relief
shall
be
jointly
prepared
and
released
by
the
parties.
A
short
statement
of
nonspeci
of
non-specific
or
should
be
a
non-specific
nature,
may
be
issued
by
either
chief
negotiator
upon
the
request
of
the
media,
and
such
statements
should
not
be
considered
a
violation
of
this
section.
D
F
D
But
you
know
that's
part
of
the
process
and
we
just
have
to
address
it,
and
this
was
also
addressed
at
the
in
the
last
one.
Nothing
was
changed
from
the
last
time.
I
was
on
this
one
section,
six
contacts
during
negotiations.
Now
this
seems
to
be
the
the
point
of
contention
or
the
point
of
discussion
here
for
these
ground
rules
and
what
I
did
was.
D
I
took
the
language
I
used
the
language
from
your
proposed
ground
rules
and
integrated
them
into
this,
and
it's
a
the
parties
agree
that
all
negotiations
shall
be
conducted
exclusively
between
the
designated
bargaining
teams
at
the
bargaining
table
under
a
public
meeting.
Neither
party
shall
make
any
effort
to
buy
passage,
designated
bargaining
teams
during
the
collective
bargaining
sessions
which
have
begun
on
may
20th
2022.
D
They
said
that
you
know
the
the
comment
was
that
we
can't
really
control
an
individual,
and
I
understand
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
as
a
city
are
doing
and
that
we
expect
of
the
association
also
is
that,
when
we're
dealing
with
collective
bargaining
negotiations
and
the
duty
of
good
faith
that
we
both
educate
our
own,
you
know
I
educate
my
clients
and
my
people
and
you
educate
your
membership
and
say
look.
This
is
this
is
where
the
bargaining
happens
here
at
the
table.
D
D
At
the
same
time
c,
the
city
agrees
to
the
same
terms
with
regard
to
contacting
directly
or
encouraging
any
such
contact
with
the
association
during
any
stage.
Oh
excuse
me,
association
membership
during
any
stage
of
the
negotiations
with
respect
to
any
issues
that
may
be
the
subject
of
bargaining
and
negotiations.
D
Of
course,
the
respective
bargaining
teams
have
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
each
other
right
and
the
lead
negotiators,
but
but
the
bargaining
happens
here
and
one
of
the
issues
that
came
up
was
that
one
of
the
issues
that
came
up
was
that
well
what?
If
a
city
council
member
comes
and
asks
me
a
question
or
somebody
from
the
bargaining
team
or
somebody
from
the
union
about
the
issues
that
are
at
the
table.
D
D
So
we
asked
that
and
if
you
are
approached,
if
I
were
approached
by
a
association
member,
that's
not
part
of
the
bargaining
team
or
that
I
don't
you
know
and
they're
asking
bargaining
questions.
My
response
is,
I
understand
your
question,
but
because
of
the
good
faith,
bargaining
law
and
the
process
it'd
be
best.
If
you
you
submit
that
question,
whether
verbally
in
writing
to
your
bargaining
team
and
then
we
can
address
it
at
the
table.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
would
be
the
appropriate
response.
D
If
a
city
council
member
came
to
you
and
asked
a
bargaining
issue,
is
that
well
because,
pursuant
to
the
bargaining
duty
to
bargain
in
good
faith,
all
the
bargaining
has
to
happen
at
the
table
and
if
you
have
a
question,
you
can
ask
your
city
manager
or
send
it
to
the
bargaining
team,
and
it
can
be
addressed
with
you
and
at
the
table.
You
know
things
like
that
and
that's,
I
think,
that's
all.
D
A
D
Stuff
to
the
public,
the
contacts
during
negotiations
would
be
during
the
negotiations
up
to
and
it
would
be
up
to
impasse,
and
so
we,
you
can
add
some
language
in
there.
That
would
mirror
the
same
that
this
is
effective
up
until
the
impasse
pursuant
to
chapter
174,
texas,
local
government.
We
could
just
put
it
back
in
right,
yeah.
D
D
And
that
was
not
the
intent
I
mean
I
probably
should
have
put
the
ones
the
impasse
in
there.
But
I
thought
it
would
because
of
the
media
part
where
it
says
that
you
can
talk
to
the
president,
the
public,
that
that
was
the
intention
and
and
we're
we're
happy
to
consider
that
language
that
I
think
even
had
it
in
yours.
D
D
D
D
The
parties
agree
that
there
shall
not
be
any
sarah
pitted,
sir
picture.
I
can't
say
that
word.
I
don't
know
who
wrote
that
one,
but
that
was
from
the
last
brown
rules,
but
I
guess
like
covert,
recording
basically
of
negotiation
sessions.
There
shouldn't
be
any
secret
recordings,
you
know,
and
it's
already
publicly
live
streamed
and
and
pursue
it
to
the
open
meetings
act
on
open
meetings.
D
A
the
parties
agree
that
the
negotiation
sessions,
except
for
team
caucuses
and
any
mediated
sessions
are
open
to
the
public
to
the
fullest
extent
provided
by
chapter
174,
texas,
local
government
code
b.
The
negotiation
sessions
will
be
publicly
noticed
and
will
be
live,
streamed
and
reported
by
the
city
as
public
meetings
under
chapter
174
in
the
texas
open
meetings
act,
the
recordings
of
the
negotiation
sessions
will
be
publicly
available
to
service
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
and
the
video
just
you
know
it
stands
for
itself.
D
Nine
bargaining
process
deadlines
parties
intend
to
conclude
the
bargaining
process
within
the
impasse
deadlines
contemplated
by
174
15.153
of
the
texas
local
government
code.
I
corrected
that
it
was
a
it
had
a
t
instead
of
a
g
subject
to
duly
executed
extensions
and
writing
is
authorized
by
law.
Each
party
reserves
their
statutory
and
other
legal
rights
with
respect
to
the
bargaining
process.
D
11
miscellaneous
provisions,
these
ground
rules
being
the
subject
of
a
mutual
agreement
between
the
parties,
may
be
modified
by
agreement
at
any
time
to
serve
the
interests
of
the
bargaining
process.
Provided,
however,
that
any
modifications
to
these
ground
rules
must
be
in
writing
and
signed
by
each
chief
negotiator
b.
The
ground
rules
are
to
be
self
enforced.
As
procedural
rules
for
orderly
convict
of
business,
the
parties
do
not
intend
that
these
rules
are
binding
as
contractual
provisions.
D
What
these
rules
really
do
is
just
establish
the
mutual
understanding
between
the
parties
as
to
how
the
bargaining
process
is
going
to
work.
It
just
establishes
the
you
know.
The
process
is
about
how
we're
going
to
utilize
the
bargaining
table,
and
it
reiterates
the
that
we're
both
committing
to
bargaining
in
good
faith.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
little
repetitive
so
because
I
mean
okay,
the
intent
of
that
is
just
like
how
we
we're
all
here
in
good
faith
student
negotiations
here
at
the
table
to
prevent
negotiations
from
being
outside
of
you
know
the
public
public
meeting
and
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
we're
just
kind
of
repeating
ourselves
in
a
b
and
c
summarize,
mostly
eight.
I
don't
know
if
that's
how
you
feel,
but.
D
D
The
association
bargaining
team
or
the
associate
association
members
were
still
going
to
communicate
with
the
city
council
members
about
bargaining
issues
and
that's
why
we
wanted
to
make
it
clear
so
that
we
all
understand
what?
What?
What
that?
What
letter
a
means.
And
that
means
that,
if
there's
issues
or
any
any
part
of
the
discussion
with
regard
to
issues
related
to
mandatory
or
permissive
subjects
of
bargaining,
they're
related
to
that.
We
talk
about
it
here
at
the
table
and
if
there's
any
questions
that
they
may
be
run
through.
The
designated
bargaining
teams.
A
A
D
Well,
and
that's
why
I
proposed
so
like
I
said
these
meetings
are
live
stream
and
this
is
and
they're
public
and
anybody
has
access
to
them
and
they
can
listen
to
your
explanations
and
the
information
that
you
present
and
any
kind
of
arguments
you
have
in.
You
know
for
your
proposals
or
your
kind
of
proposals.
D
That
gives
you
the
ability
to
give
your
side
of
the
story
to
that
question.
Okay.
So
if
we,
if
we
can
commit
to
do
that,
I
think
that
that
addresses
your
concern
about
being
able
to
address
a
question
being
able
to
provide
your
argument
in
your
side
of
the
story
and
do
it
like
that,
so
so
that
that's
what
I
well
that's
that's
the
way
I
intend
for
this
to
work.
D
You
know
my
I'm
the
lead
negotiator,
but
I
represent
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
and
that
includes
the
city
council,
members
and
if
they
have
a
question-
and
I
need
to
raise
the
question
here
at
the
table-
that's
that's
what
we'll
do
you
know
so
so
this
isn't.
This
isn't
anything
to
stifle
any
kind
of
communication
that
the
process
has
to
happen
here.
D
A
Process
and
we're
all
very
much
in
agreement
that
the
process
of
actual
negotiating
is
going
to
happen
here.
Right
just
saying,
is
that
what
is
being
kind
of
limited
to
is
what
I'm
trying
to
ask
is.
Basically,
is
this
the
direction
that
the
city
city
council,
city
manager
is
directing
for
us
not
to
be
in
contact
with
them
at
all,
because,
according
to
the
according
to
the
verbiage?
Here,
that's
what
you're
asking.
D
So
we
had
this
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
and
this
is
not
cut
off
all
discussion
with
city
council
members
or
city
staff
or
the
city
manager.
Okay,
you
still
have
the
ability
to
approach
them
or
have
discussions
with
anything
except
for,
and
what
we're
talking
about
is
anything
related
to
bargaining
issues,
for
instance,
because
we
have,
we
have
ongoing
bargaining
sessions
that
have
opened
and
are
up
for
discussion
under
chapter
174.
D
The
good
faith,
statutory
requirement
of
good
pay
bargaining
requires
that
we
do
it
here
out
in
the
open
public,
with
the
designated
bargaining
teams,
and
so
when
so
when
you're
dealing
here
and
then
you're
going
and
bargaining
again
with
an
another
party
from
my
party.
You
know
that
that
goes
against
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
here
and
it
could
potentially
be
a
violation
of
the
open
meetings
act
as
well,
and
so
we
and
and
we
don't.
We
don't
want
that
to
happen.
D
D
The
duty
of
good
faith
does
not
allow
me
to
go
to
individual
members
in
your
membership
and
say
and
try
to
convince
them
to
vote
a
certain
way.
Okay,
that's!
That
is,
that
is
your
job.
It's
your
membership!
They
have
elected
you
to
be
the
designated
bargaining
representatives
and
they
they've
they're,
giving
you
that
authority
to
do
that
here
and
then
you're
the
one
that
communicates
with
them.
J
D
So
I
commit
to
you
that
whatever
that
I
would
I
would
expect
the
same
from
the
union
side
is
that
everything
that
happens
here
is
being
communicated
just
as
it
had
a
city
council
member,
just
like
you
or
I,
or
anybody
from
the
public,
has
the
ability
to
click
on
that
link
and
listen
to
everything
that
was
said
and
as
much
as
we'd
like
to
think
that
that's
gonna
happen.
We
cannot
guarantee
that
they're
gonna
be
looking
at
this
feed
and
taking.
J
J
We
would
like
to
be
able
to
say:
well,
you
know
what
we're
at
this
point
we're
making
progress,
and
this
is
where
we're
at
no
big
deal
right.
But
if
it's
something
where
you
all
are
giving
them
something
and
they're,
probably
not
still
understanding,
and
they
want
to
approach
somebody
from
the
negotiating
team.
D
D
A
member
of
the
council
is
more
than
welcome
to
up
to
attend
and
particip.
They
are
not
part
of
the
negotiating
team,
but
and
they're
not
authorized
to
be
up
here
because
we've
been
designated
by
by
them
to
do
so,
but
they're
more
than
welcome
to
sit
there
and
have
the
ability
to
come
sit
in
and
listen.
It's
not
going
to
be.
J
D
And
that's
the
whole.
That's
why
the
purpose
of
this,
the
purpose
and
the
the
scope
of
what
the
ground
laws
are
and
what
this
negotiation
is
is
extremely
important,
because
I
think
that
this,
in
order
for
this
to
work,
there
has
to
be
open
communication
and
trust
between
each
party,
because,
just
as
you,
you
know
it's,
you
have
your
membership
and
you're
gonna,
advise
them
and
tell
them
what's
going
on
here.
D
If
I
have
any
questions
or
I
have
any
issues
with
any
proposals
or
what
what
it
is
that
we're
discussing,
I
have
to
do
it
here.
I
can't
go
to
your.
I
can't
hold
a
workshop
for
your.
You
know
for
your
membership
and
say
my
side
of
the
story,
because
what
my
side
of
the
story
or
the
city
side
of
the
story
has
to
be
discussed
here
at
the
open
meeting.
D
Do
you
understand
and
that's
why
it's
a
public
meeting
anybody
can
attend
it's
it's
available
for
anybody
to
watch
at
their
convenience.
So
so
I'm
not
you
know
I
I'm.
I
don't
know
how
to
remedy
that,
because
it
is
the
city's
position
that
the
bargaining
happens
here
between
the
designated
teams
and
any
discussion
with
a
city
council
member
on
the
side
on
any
kind.
D
I
D
D
I
D
D
D
You're
right,
the
original
one
was
agreed
to
by
everybody,
and
that
was
part,
and
I
can't
remember
if
there
was
any
kind
of
change,
if
any,
to
the
one
that
we
presented
at
first.
Yes,
but
the
reason
that
there's
a
change
today
was
because
we
took
into
consideration
what
was
said
at
the
table
and
the
intent
of
what
what
it's
supposed
to
mean
to
bargain
and
give
faith.
And
that's
what
the
proposal
is
today
and
it's
indicated
and
the
changes.
A
A
D
B
D
So
the
original
one,
the
original
one
on
a
contact
series
negotiations,
was
six
eight.
The
association
agrees
that
no
member
of
the
bargaining
team
will
actively
engage
in
any
substantive
bargaining
talks
with
any
elected
official
in
the
city
of
laredo
during
any
stage
of
the
negotiations,
with
respect
to
any
issues
that
are
the
subject
of
bargaining
and
negotiations
right.
D
D
D
And
then
it
continued
we'll
actively
engage
in
any
bargaining
talks
with
it
and
that
everything
else
is
the
same.
So
the
thing
that
we
add
and
that
that's
what
we
address
the
thing
that
we
added
was
and
no
member
or
representative
of
the
association
and
then
that's
when
davos
raised
the
issue
with
well,
we
can't
control,
you
know,
there's
what,
if
we
can't
control
our
individual
members.
A
A
This
wording
over
here
it
goes
back
to
what
mr
about.
I
was
saying
that
if
there
is
a
question
for
education
purposes,
we
are
able
to
talk
to
you
know
if
they
ask
if
we're
able
to
tell
that's
what
the
intent
of
this
was.
I
believe
again,
I
wasn't
present
during
this
one.
I
can
confirm
from
everybody
this
wording
proposed
on
the
last
name.
Actually
just
blankets,
you
know
any
communication
and.
A
Foreign
is
we're
not
going
to
actively
negotiate
or
answer
something
specifically
from
any
council
member,
because
that's
not
what
negotiations
respond,
but
again
when
we're
in
learning
when
we're
in
talks
with
any
council
member-
and
it
is
asked
for
an
issue
with
raised
a
question
of
what's
happening
during
negotiations,
your
your
verdict
on
your
proposed
blankets
that
we
can't
talk
to
them
and
we
have
to
refer
to.
They
have
to
refer
to
you
as
opposed
to
here.
If
they
ask
specifically
article
you
know
article
one
section
one:
why
can't
you
get
past
it?
D
J
D
D
D
What
I
discussed
earlier,
a
proper
response
would
probably
be
that
is
subject
to
the
negotiation
process.
You
know,
and
we
can
you
can
present
the
question
to
the
bargaining
team,
but
I
you
know
I
I
would
say
if
I
were
approached
by
a
association
member.
I'm
saying
I
can't
discuss
this
while
not
in
the
bargaining
process.
I
can't
discuss
it
with
you
because,
because
of
chapter
174
and
because
also
there's
open,
meaning
issues
that
may
arise
so
I
would
recommend
I
would
recommend
to
them.
D
Are
basically
a
process
by
which
we
agree
that
this
is
how
this
is
going
to
work?
Doesn't
it
form
a
contract
between
us?
It's
not
something
that
I
can
say
you've
reached
contract
or
you
can
say
you
reach
the
contract
roxy
or
something
like
that.
It's
it's
an
agreement,
but
you
have
to
remember
that
under
174
there
are
also
requirements
that
the
parties
have
to
negotiate
in
and
the
main
one
that
we're
dealing
with
here
is
the
duty
to
bargain
in
good
faith
and
that
that
that
has
its
own
its
own
set
of
remedies.
D
J
J
D
D
J
D
H
J
There
was
a
contract
where
it
went
over
the
extended
time
and
I
think
we
didn't
get
it
signed
until
a
couple
of
months
after
the
expiration
date,
and
there
were
questions
that
were
asked
just
because
we
were
at
the
table
and
we
didn't
come
to
an
agreement.
Finally,
I
think
it
was
like
eight
months
after
the
expiration
of
the
contract.
We
finally
were
able
to
agree
with
the
city
and
we
went
forward
with
the
following
terms
of
that
country,
but
I
mean
they
were
not
looking
to
go
to
impasse
or
anything.
J
Foresee
anything
like
that,
but
to
take
care
of
anything
because
I
mean
we
are
members
of
the
community,
we
do
new
events
that
kind
of
coincide,
sometimes
right
with
certain
people
in
the
community.
I
mean,
if
we're
going
to
be
asked,
questions.
Okay.
Well,
then,
you
know
what
responsibly
we
can
allow.
J
We
can
let
you
know,
and
if
it's
a
question
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
then
we
can
set
up
something
and
then,
like
I
said,
with
the
scheduling
and
everything
else
that
comes
with
it,
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we
can
get
something
that
works
with
our
schedule
within
the
time
that
we're
meeting
to
be
able
to
sit
down
and
say
well.
This
is
what
what
it
is
for
this
article
and
we're
ready
to
move
forward
or
you
know
what,
if
this
is
the
concern?
D
I
am
and
and
if
I
think
that
that
may
be
a
creative
solution
to
address
the
issue,
to
make
sure
that
you
have
your
your
say
and
and
have
the
council
members
questions
answered
and
that
we're
still
within
the
duty
to
bargain
in
good
faith
and
that
we
don't
do
the
bargaining
outside,
but
we
provide
them
factual
information
together.
I
think
that
may
be
a
solution,
but
I
need
to
absolutely
consider
it
with
my
team,
but
but
that
sounds
like
something
something
that
may
be
a
probable
solution.
D
Yeah,
I
need
to
consider
it
if
you
have
some
language,
you
want
me
to
consider
or
our
team
to
consider.
We
can
do
that
and
at
the
same
time
we
can
talk
about
it,
the
concept,
because,
right
now
it's
just
conceptual,
I
haven't
seen
the
language.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
definitely
consider
because.
A
The
intent
I
mean,
I
think,
clear,
on
both
sides,
the
intent
of
what
we're
trying
to
agree
to
here
to
basically
negotiate
here
right.
You
know
we
streamline
being
productive
throughout
as
much
as
we
can
to
avoid
any
even
approaching
impasse
and,
in
case
of
any
questions,
arise
on
either
part
yeah.
So
we
can.
We
can
both
openly
complete
ideas
of
why
why
the
issue
is
at
hand
right.
D
One
of
the
other
solutions
is
that,
if
that
council
member
has
some
questions,
we
can
definitely
accommodate
a
session
for
them
to
be
to
come.
Ask
their
question
or
be
presented
with
something
you
know
or
listen,
listen
to
something,
yes,
so
or,
and
they
they
still
have
the
ability
to
do
that
at
their
convenience.
D
J
So
we
had
a
language
to
say
that
would
say
a
copy
will
be
time,
stamped
and
and
the
copy
will
be
made
available
to
the
city
negotiating
team
and
the
association
of
bushido
team,
and
just
for
the
fact
that
we
can
keep
records
as
we're
getting
there
our
stuff
ta
if
the
language
is
correct
and
what
we
agreed
to
is
correct.
That
way,
I
understand
that
you
will
be
in
charge
of
going
back
and
then
putting
everything
in
the
word
format
and
everything
is
just
exactly.
D
How
you
begin
so
everything
as
part
of
the
open
meeting,
just
like
city,
council
unions,
you
know
when
documents
are
presented,
their
public
record
and
they're
posted
as
part
of
the
agenda
packet.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
order
for
to
make
it
easier
for
both
teams
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
find
those
documents
and
see
exactly
what
was
passed
along
was
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
archive.
It's
going
to
include.
D
J
Going
to
bring
in
a
copy
make
sure
in
the
past,
when
we've
had
we've
had
sensitive
agreements,
and
then
we
are
under
the
understanding
that
the
city
side
is
going
to
go
back,
retype
them
and
then
bring
them
all
out.
When
we
look
at
them,
there's
discrepancies
they've
always
agreed
and
copied
that
they
then
as
to
whatever,
was
typed
up
later,
and
it
was
blamed
at
the
time.
Well,
you
know
what
the
person
that
typed
it
up.
I
just
didn't,
have
an
understanding
and
it's
like
well
you're
doing
it
work
for
word
sure.
So.
C
J
E
For
example,
police
department
we've
both
initially
there's
an
initial
guide
to
negotiators
based
on
whatever
questions,
for
example
in
writing,
and
then
someone
is
responsible
for
typing
it
all
up.
We
come
back
and
say:
okay,
based
on
what
was
initial
off
on
this
particular
page.
There's
a
comparison,
it's
good,
it's
good.
It
moves.
J
J
Can
I
talk
about
that
because
maybe
a
time
stamp,
but
it
goes,
it
brings
it
back
to
the
date
that
and
opens
meetings
that
we're
meeting
on
this
stage.
Well
at
the
time
within
the
eight
hours
that
we
were
here,
here's
the
time
center,
we
were
actually
negotiating
on
this
on
the
day
that
we
negotiated
with
us.
I.
D
Need
to
figure
out
those
logistics,
but
the
way
that
we,
the
way
that
I
I
work
in
doing
all
of
this
is
everything
I
keep
a
running,
I'm
getting
a
and
I'll
send
it
to
you.
What
I
want
to
do
for
these
proposals
is
agree
to
a
word
format
of
the
contract.
That
way,
you
can
compare
it
to
the
one
you
have.
I
can
compare
it
to
the
one
that
we
have.
We
make
sure
that
we
have
the
correct
contract.
You
know
the
one
that
the
pdf
one
is
signed.
Yeah.
J
This
has
been
working
for
many
contracts,
and
this
is
the
one
we're
going
to
go
with,
and
it
was
it's
it's
just
to
keep
the
records
in
order
so
that
when
we
move
forward
and
we
actually
do
present
the
contract
as
a
whole,
we
are
under
the
understanding
that
none
of
the
writing's
been
changed.
None
of
the
format
has
mixed
anything
up
and
changed
any
of
the
interpretation
of
what
the
article
wants
to
do
and
we're
moving
forward
again.
D
So,
and
so
I
think
that
you
and
I
will
work
on
getting
and
y'all
can
work,
but
I'm
going
to
send
you
the
contract
that
once
I
compare
it
and
make
sure
that
you
can
do
your
comparison
and
then
with
each
proposal
before
it's
ta,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
put
that
legislatively
into
the
contract.
Ultimately
you
know
ultimately,
is
I
always
do
it
once
we
have
that
designated
original
contract?
I
always
do
a
compare.
D
You
know
how
you
can
do
the
review
on
the
compare
and
it'll
point
with
to
any
kind
of
discrepancy
other
than
what's
already
changed,
so
so
I
do
that
for
for
our
end,
I
don't
know
if
you
you
can
do
that
for
your
end,
but
we
can.
We
can
do
that
together
on
the
side
if
we
need
to
outside
of
a
public
meeting
just
to
like
a
clerical
deal,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
one.
But
ultimately
we
want
to
have
an
accurate
contract
right
and.
D
To
make
sure
that
we
and
and
we're
all
human
and
the
human
element
you
know,
unfortunately
comes
in
and
I
like
I
make
typos
all
the
time.
I
make
mistakes
all
the
time,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have,
as
you
know,
that
we
don't
have
any
mistakes
and
I'm
all
for
that.
Even
if,
after
the
negotiations,
we
need
to
sit
down
together
and
go
through
it
side
by
side
and
go,
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
correct
thing.
D
But
but
I
will
commit
to
you
that
we
will
make
sure
when
we
sign
a
tentative
agreement
that
both
people,
both
parties
will
be
able
to
have
reviewed.
It
make
sure
it's
the
correct
version
that
nothing
has
been
changed
and
when
we
sign
it,
we
all
will
have
already
reviewed
it
and
we'll
sign
it
here
and
I'll
we'll
print
it
on
a
sign.
D
D
Yeah,
I
know
I
think,
we'll
do
the
legislative
format,
so
we
can
review
and
then
we'll
physically
we'll
print
them
out
and
we'll
review
them.
Make
sure
that
the
copies
are
the
right
and
we'll
physically
sign
them,
and
we
can
date
them
and
time
them
ourselves.
I
need
it.
I
don't
know
about
the
the
time
stamp
or
is
the
stamp
from
the
city.
I
need
to
look
into
that.
D
A
H
C
C
C
C
D
About
tentative
agreements
we
probably
couldn't
just
actually
tentatively
agree
because
there
may
be
a
portion
that
needs
to
be
addressed
like
a
definition
or
something
like
that
that
or
commitments
that
I
think
that's
that's
going
to
talk
about
the
verbal
agreements,
we're
making
on
items
that
we
could
agree
on.
But
you
know
if
there
was
a
specific.
You
know
something
that
we
needed
to
wait
for
another
one,
that
we
could
wait
for
that
portion,
but
we
would
commit
verbally
on
all
of
that
stuff.
Dude.
Do
you
remember
that
conversation?
D
Article,
I
think
maybe
we
just
need
to
add
a
clarification
to
that
conflicts
with
another
subsequent
proposal
or
proposed
article.
Something
like
that
that
way.
It's
that
way,
when
we
make
a
tentative
agreement,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
agreed
to
something
and
the
and
that
we
agree
to
open
it
up.
Only
if
a
new
proposal
will
affect
something
in
that
agreement
and
we
want
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
conflict
so.
D
Really
yeah
and
we,
I
think
that
we
all
agree
that
the
issue
is
that
if
we
have
a
tentative
agreement-
and
we
think
that
it's
all
done
and
then
we
come
back
with
a
proposed
agreement
and
somebody's
like
hey,
this
affects
the
one
we
just
did
that
we
can
agree
to
say:
okay.
Well,
we
need
to
bring
that
one
back
and
address
this
one
issue
that
that
it
affects
you
know.
D
C
C
D
H
C
The
parties
agree
that
all
negotiations
should
be
conducted
exclusively
between
the
designated
bargaining
teams.
The
bargaining
table
under
a
public
meeting.
Neither
party
shall
make
any
effort
to
buy
passage,
designated
bargaining
teams
during
any
stage
of
the
negotiations,
which
should
begin
on
may
20th.
D
I'm
sorry
the
beginning
of
the
negotiation,
because
the
way
that
the
ground
rules
have
stayed
like
the
60
days
does
not
start
running
until
after
we
finish
the
ground
rules,
and
so
when
we
were
talking
the
last
time
we
only.
I
think
that
we
were
all
on
the
same
page,
that
the
negotiations
already
started.
So
I
just
wanted
to
include
from
may
20th
to
the
plus.
The
sixth.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
yeah,
yes,.
H
A
G
D
You're
not
going
back
to
making
decisions.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
the
bargaining
sessions
has
started,
and
I
thought
that's
what
we
were
discussing
that
you
know,
since
we
opened
the
bargaining
sessions,
that
this
would
be
effective
during
that
time,
because
60
days
in
effect,
pursuant
to
what
we
we've
done
is
does
the
60
days
doesn't
start
until
the
next
session
so
and
we've
already
opened
the
bargaining
session
we're
talking
about.
D
You
know
how
we're
going
to
do
this
bargaining
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
that
the
good
faith,
bargaining
and
the
process
is
is
intact
and
the
integrity
is
maintained
during
the
you
know,
yeah.
So
so
that's
all
we're
saying,
because
we
we
have
had
this
discussion
at
the
last
meeting.
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what.
D
C
D
D
H
A
And
purposes
in
case
they
come
in,
hey
how's,
it
going.
You
know,
how's
the
negotiation
going.
What's
going
good
we're
you
know.
Currently
you
know
under
opposed.
Have
you
talked
about
this?
Well,
yes,
but
we're
still
hung
up
on
it.
Well,
what
exactly
are
you
hung
up
on
that
would
trigger
anytime?
They
would
ask
any
specifics
concerning
the
the
contract
itself.
It
would
trigger
this
language
if
it's
just
how's
it
going.
Oh,
I
think
it's
going
good
we're
moving
along.
We
might
even
essentially
might
not
you
know
or
we're
almost
done
with
it.
B
A
Where
it
won't
trigger
them,
but
if
they
want
to
know
specifics
of,
why
are
you
taking
so
long
or
what's
the
issue
at
hand,
you
know
what
we
can
come
back
and
say:
hey
there
is
questions
about
it
are
being
brought
up
by
you
know,
elected
officials.
Can
we
can
we
address
this
and
that's
what
that
would
trigger
only
in
that
case.
D
A
Yeah
and
I
think
that
the
wording
as
we
work
out
or
how
we
address
it,
it
will
encompass
both
and
on
both
sides.
So
what
issues
have
been
brightened
up?
You
know
we
won't
be
circumventing
the
negotiating
process,
but
at
the
same
time
we'll
be
able
to
address
you
know
or
educate
our
stance
on
it
on
a
certain
issue
and
why
it's
important-
and
it
kind
of
you
know-
brings
them
to
the
table
like
hey.
This
is
exactly
why
we're
doing
this.
Okay,
why
why?
B
D
D
D
That
last
sentence
I
have
concerns
about
because
the
subcommittee
will
include
but
not
limited
to
both
lead
negotiators
and
then
and
their
designees.
I
have
an
issue
with
that,
because
we
have
designated
quorums
and
and
and
how
and
and
for
the
city
the
quorum
is
one,
the
chief
negotiator
and
one
other
person.
F
D
So
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
we
discussed
that
it
would
be
the
chief
negotiators
because
I
think
going
any
further
than
allowing
more
people
there.
It
could
potentially
violate
the
open
meetings
act
if
we're
talking
with
them
about
negotiating
items,
and
then
it
almost
creates
a
second.
It
potentially
can
create
a
second
venue
for
negotiating
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
What
we
want
to
do
is
address
any
kind
of
factual
questions
or
what
has
been
discussed
at
the
table.
So
that's
my
concern
with
that,
and
I
would.
D
I
would
propose
that
we,
the
subcommittee,
would
be
the
two
chief
negotiators
and
the
the
council,
member
or
the
member,
and
then,
if
there's
any
other
issues,
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
could
address
that,
because
we're
basically
discussing
negotiating
items
with
with
you
know
some
somebody
else,
somebody
that's
actually
going
to
approve
the
contract.
So
so
that
that's
my
concern
with
that.
I
don't
want
to.
We
can
instead
of
anybody.
D
D
E
C
G
D
G
D
D
And-
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
to
happen-
that
we
don't
realize
until
it
comes
up
and
we
need
to
talk
about
it
and
make
sure
that
we
do
the
right
thing
so
that
we
have
the
information.
You
know.
I
think
the
the
intent
is
not
to
create
obstacles
but
to
try
and
make
this
as
smooth
as
smooth
as
possible
and
as
collaborative
as
possible
and
just
got
to
kind
of
work
it
out.
So
yes,
okay,
so
for
the
last
sentence,
I
think
that
one's
good,
but
the
first
sentence.
D
D
New
c
that
we
just
talked
about
upon
the
agreement
to
book
chief
negotiators,
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
add
just
so
everyone
is
clear,
maybe
add
a
sentence
to
the
a
sentence
to
the
end
of
a
saying.
This
would
include
either
party
communicating
with
a
council,
member
and
or
membership
during
during
this
time.
Something
like
that.
D
G
G
D
D
J
D
The
same
thing
for
the
city
that
the
city
will
not
you
know,
contact
your
directly
or
indirectly
or
encourage
any
kind
of
contact
with
the
association
to
discuss
any
kind
of
bargaining
at
any
stage
of
the
negotiations
up
until
the
impasse.
So
it's
just.
This
is
clear
on
the
record
that
that's
exactly
what
we
mean
when
we're
talking
about
this
and
we've
the
way
that
we're
addressing
it
is
by
the
language.
D
D
D
G
D
D
G
D
So
what
I'll
do
is
we
can
just
take
a
short
break.
We
don't
need
to
caucus,
but
I
can
finalize
this
accept
the
changes
email
it
to
you
just
so
you
can
review
it
and
make
sure
that
it's
a
correct
document
and
if
it
is,
then
we
can
come
back
in
and
present
the
final
document
and
sign
it
if,
once
unless
you're
of
reviewed
and
approved
it,
so
you
want
to
do
that.
Okay,
let
me
do
that
real,
quick
anybody
have
any
questions.
A
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Ralph
had
provided
me
some
dates
and
we
were
looking
at
the
wednesdays,
the
wednesdays
during
july,
beginning
with,
I
think
it
was
the
after
the
july
4th
holiday.
So
actually
I
don't
know
that
that
we're
able
to
have
my
people
that
I
need
on
my
team
and
I
think
that
ralph
had
provided
the
week
of
july
11-15.
So
we're
looking
at
the
13th,
the
20th
and
the
27th.
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I
need
to
make
sure
with
my
team,
to
see
whether
we
can
do
21
and
28,
because
once
we
get
into
the
fourth
meeting
we're
going
to
be
into
the
meat
of
things,
and
we
might
need
some
time
to
get
some
documents
or
something,
but
in
the
meantime,
let's
schedule
it
because
it
may
work
and
then
you
and
I
can
have
discussions
with
our
teams
and
then
we
can
visit
on
amending
the
schedule
as
necessary.
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Those
are
the
initial
ones.
I
think
that
we'll
have
we'll
both
have
proposals
to
be
putting
on
the
table
as
we
get
into
the
2021
we're
saying,
2021,
27
and
28
as
it
progresses.
We
need
to
see
whether
we
do
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
get
some
information
or
see
how
it
happens
or
whether
we
can
get
it
pretty
quick
or
yeah.
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on
the
13th
yeah,
okay,
that's
fine!
So
that's
why
we
want
to
start
we're
doing
the
setting
the
meetings,
because
that
we
have
that
6-day
deadline
to
work
with
yeah.
That's
I
think,
that's
where
the
misunderstanding.
I
had
one
when
you
put
in
the
main
data
store,
so
the
next
one
then
you're,
including
the
first
one,
oh
yeah,
that
was
just
for
the
negotiation
session
for
the
60
days.
It
starts
once
we
start
putting
proposals
on
the
table
so.
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July
13th
and
14th
july,
20,
21
and
july
27
and
28th,
and
then
you
and
I
will
get
together
on
our
before
tuesday,
by
telephone
and
we'll
discuss
the
last
week
of
june
and
see
if
there's
anything,
we
can
work
out
from
there.
Okay
remember
and
then
in
the
meantime,
as
always,
lines
of
communication
are
open
to
me,
whether
it
be
my
you
have
my
number
phone
number
or
email,
and
if
there's
any
information
or
questions
that
you
require
or
need
in
order
for
preparation
or
proposals,
field
feel
free
to.