City of Laredo, Texas Fine Arts and Culture Commission, 19 Jul 2021

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Fine Arts and Culture Committee Meeting 071521

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We're going to put it down in 553, let's go ahead and say the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united everything states it for which it stands.

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One nation under god and the physical liberty teaches.

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Us and we're going to go ahead and do rocco now. Yes, dr martin,.

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Villarreal pierre robert colin campbell, absent julio linda carlos, careful.

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Or do you want to take a minute.

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I want to go ahead and approve the minutes.

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We want to make sure you're ready.

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To let you all know that um city council voted on a new mural and that is being funded by a council member without rodriguez district two, and it's supposed to go up at the cabros rene and raquel ramirez, wig clinic and hope center.

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I I tried to get more information on that, but um it is supposed to be a depiction of the journey in life where it starts from, I guess, conception to death. What is it.

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That's being funded by with our funds by councilman rodriguez.

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Okay, where is it.

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Going to be it's going to be in district 2, which is in south already, and it's going to be attacking.

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To get more information also the amount that was being sent, but I did not receive that back.

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Because it's on the wick clinic that it has to do with the journey of.

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Kind of on the same subject.

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Would that be part of that budget that we were hearing the.

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Latter, the last one: yes.

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From 2019. there were some council members that had not uh used their funds yet.

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But then I think we're good right. We can move on to staff reports.

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Yes, the next item is an update on the public arts master plan and we have elia. He us with us.

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Hello, everyone.

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Hi um well just a quick update. I found to let you up on that that we have started.

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Going through the ordinance and trying to um you know still working on the program administration piece of it, but we didn't want to get held up by that. So we started working on some of the other pieces now and um I'm going to be sending to maria, and I leave pretty soon a database of the inventory of the public art inventory that they will be able to then continue.

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I put in all of the information um that we've been given so far to get started, and we also have been working on the community engagement online survey that we're going to um that. We also want to get out um probably the next week or so. um We still need to go through it um internally with maria, and I mean, but we're closer to being done with that one and giving it out to to the public first and foremost to the cultural arts, um cultural arts, organizations and cultural arts stakeholders um artists.

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um We would like to work with the city to you know for them to help get it out. Also we'll come back to you all next month, as well, probably asking you to share with your networks as well. So that we can get a broad, um you know feedback from the community at large. We are.

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We are planning to do some in-person community engagement as well, um and that is most likely going to happen in august, which will work with details of that and, um let's see so other than that, we're just working on some of the policies that um that are that were part of the scope of the uh of the plan, um the scopes from the contract- and that is you know, looking at things like maintenance, and you know, gifts and donations and all those things, and today um we have for discussion and possible action.

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I prefer we hope that you will be able to um pass the public art annual report for 2020 and the public art plan for 2022, so that we can. Then um you know, give that to city council again. Hopefully it's on record then, and then the plan is set for the next the next year. That way, you know you don't have those funds being used randomly and it can be more planned and that's all I have I'm happy to answer any questions you all have.

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We were supplied that package. Yes,.

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We were supposed to have read for today, which I did thank you. You.

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Did yes, yes, and and when we get to that, we'll see? If you have any comments on.

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It because that's, I had my copy to bring with me and I forgot it because it was a lot of paperwork.

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It wasn't, it was sent electronically.

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Too yeah, but did you have comments on it? I I don't know I mean I did make a few notations, but I it was right next to me and I left because but anyway, we'll we'll meet again next month anyway, but still I mean it was really good.

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The next item is just the presentation of the semi-annual committee report, and this is we do twice a year.

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We report on the activities of the commission and on your attendance, so you have a copy of that, since we were not able to present it to you before it was you I. I went ahead and submitted.

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Wasn't this in some of the papers you've seen this wasn't in the papers, you spent also no.

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Actually well, some of this is in the annual report. Okay, it was in the.

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Annual report, because we're also reporting on that, okay.

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The absences, as usually, which is the last.

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And uh for forfeiting your position absences so nobody's in.

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So we still have a vacancy.

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It's because I was still in one and then they put me in.

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They reappointed you.

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We have two vacancies right so.

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um Miss tremendous is continue serving until sorry.

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Reappointed or somebody.

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Else, oh, that's right! Elisa.

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So hopefully, she'll believe her.

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Looks great okay, so moving on now we have the discussion and action possible action for the public art fund for 2022.

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And this is the annual report. This is a report of what has happened so far.

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That have gone on as far as the presentations that were given to you. The actions you've taken.

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So I read it, I don't know if everybody else read it the packet that was sent out. I mean it seemed pretty um correct to me.

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And included with the the budget of what has been spent so far with the public art. And then our.

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But you said you were going to send us a more complete yeah. It's not complete.

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uh The inventory, uh yes, that means not necessarily what was painted in 2020, but also you know, other things that you know, for example the statues and those things as well. Are you gonna get a.

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Map or anything like that um with, like.

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We have the addresses in yet I don't know if we were planning on doing a map.

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We're working on the car, yeah cbp is working on a map and we need to update that that listing needs to be updated with, uh especially the latest ones. That.

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Well- and there were some, but there were some that weren't even there that are from north central park, they weren't even mentioned.

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Yeah, it needs to be updated yeah because I know there's more.

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Then yeah is this: just art that the city owns or is it just any art.

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It is just art that the city owns um you know. So, not usually you know, just with the with the cip funds, it's usually not spent on private property. um You know just as a best practice. It's usually supposed to be spent on city property. So typically, you wouldn't include anything. That's on private property unless there's some sort of special arrangement.

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Which is on the hotel, but it was funded with the cip dollars, um so that one, you know, I think, would be considered part of the collection. Okay, we just have to be careful moving forward that we're not really putting at least with the cip funds, that it's not funding things on private property. um When we're talking about maybe hot plans or other types of funding, then it would be okay.

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So if it was funded by one of the city council members, it would be included. You didn't.

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Even say private property no, but like north central.

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Park, they only have one mural on there and there's four there's four that were done with it was uh the councilman.

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It was charlie.

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And there was a whole unveiling of all those murals, there's four four or five there's four. I.

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Know that some of them are on private property.

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But they were from there and they're just what okay. So I don't know the pirate property, the ones are.

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On the like, the trail like right right across from.

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Somebody's wall- okay, but then there was like where sandra made, hers, mm-hmm and then tony bernier says it's right across and that's part of the street yeah and then mountain made one down where the water comes out. That wasn't included either and that's all part of the city.

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So those should be included so yeah for sure we're missing some of our.

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And then the last two that were not fun right.

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But it would still be cool if, if just maybe, we could have uh listings and and photos of all the murals, even though, like maybe just as a separate thing, you know for people.

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You know for tourism, you really want yeah.

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Any other comments on it before you vote on it to advance it to city city council.

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I'm good, I think at least yeah yeah motion.

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Motion to approve I'm not running this.

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I'm just the loudest one.

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Yeah, this is off the topic, but do you have a photo shoot right now.

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I sure do okay, because.

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They went to the center right now. Oh.

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Yeah my assistant's asking- oh, the clients, probably went to the center, but the photographer's at my gallery. Oh okay,.

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Yes, now we're moving on to the next step.

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Voted on the annual report, the annual report.

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And yeah we're going to talk about our.

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We did, you know.

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Already voted on the annual report. We accepted that okay.

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So now our discussion possible actually for the annual public art fund for the fiscal year. 2022 arrive.

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uh The only comment that I have is: are there any uh any murals that could put together some music or something I don't know? I was thinking of the top of my head.

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If you have a chair where musicians can come and play women, but that's that's the only thing that if there is any funding.

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And elia had told us, I think we discussed it at the last meeting that this.

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For public art, not not a performance, yes, um there's probably going to be some money with the hot funds from the convention and visitor bureau and that one can probably.

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Be- and we can come by so.

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The public art plan doesn't encompass anything but art correctness.

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Visual arts right, if it was a cultural plan, then it would encompass okay, individual I mean um you know, performing career and dance and everything else. But since it's just a public art plan, it doesn't really address that so much. But you know we're going to provide opportunities in the report for performing arts programming around the public art, um but in terms of like when we're using cip, when you guys are using cip funds to fund projects, then typically that funding stays with the project. It needs to be on that property.

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You know, there's like a bunch of rules, um and so typically music is not. um It can be included as a part of the public art, but it's usually not the centerpiece of the public art. If that makes any sense.

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Yes, I did see that it could fall under, because I was looking at the artwork project types that you put into the recommendations for the 2022 fiscal year, and so if it could fall under the streetscapes, because it says it would be artist, enhanced street furniture.

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When you talk about like, like uh maybe.

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A sculptural chair, yeah.

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That's perfect art, but it could also be utilized.

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A as a musical component.

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Yeah, because, in your examples, I was like okay, that kind of broadens the scope of how we can utilize this. Besides just murals, um that has been the focus.

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I do have a question. This uh group is called the arts and culture commission and so some of our first meetings when we first started we discussed- and we have here with with this group- there was a bunch. There were other people that were on this group in the beginning, but we did discuss things like having um arts.

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Having like performance in music and dance, and things like that as part of the cultural heart.

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The arts and culture.

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Now we have no funding, uh except if we are allotted the money's from the two percent or whatever it was that was not given to us, um and I don't know how that's going to progress down the road. Well like elias.

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Said I mean it it's not for like a music festival and that that would have the would have to be from somewhere else, maybe from the convention.

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And I'm thinking, maybe even from each of the council members but.

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Have discretionary funds if, if we're functioning as an arts and culture commission, we always understood the arts was part of it, but we also feel very strongly that the cultural aspect of laredo texas encompasses so many other.

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And that also brings tourism, so you know I feel like we're we're. We only have one leg here and we.

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Have two so there you know yeah, there's, there's a um part of the regulations of the use of total occupancy text. It allows for a certain percentage of that text to be used for cultural um programs.

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Now we're looking now that we're working together we're looking into how do we pull that money out so that we can? It can be utilized for those purposes right. So it's definitely something that we are actively looking for, because we we agree that this is a portion of uh what what the commission is doing, but there's the other portion that has to be comfortable yeah.

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And I mean I wouldn't foresee, maybe like when there's a mural opening- or you know uh unveiling, maybe there's other stuff going on that- is culturally important to laredo and would bring tourism like music or dance or or who knows opera. I don't know right, you know.

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Something yeah we wanted to have a comment yeah. You know that we're going to provide opportunities in the report that will point some of those things out. um That way. It's it's written for you guys and you can use that, as you know, hopefully as leverage to say look, but the fan recommends that we can do this um and then hopefully that'll help with that and then also maybe when we're, when we're done with the with the public art master plan that you all maybe will consider a cultural arts plan.

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Yes, that would be great as part of our mission right, yeah.

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It does sound like you all are like every. I think, every meeting that we've had you all have mentioned music- and I know you know as latinos. Music is a big disappointment of our lives and I do think it's important, but the scope of the of this master plan is very, you know very explicit in what it covered, and you know we only have a limited amount of hours to work with.

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But that's you know we're super happy that this is actually going to happen and that you're on board and that that those council members who you know put their money towards this- we're very grateful. I'm very.

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Grateful yeah, and I think that I think that you all should definitely encourage you know the council. Members have appointed you to use our discretionary funds. You know we need that situation. We have a percent for art that you know that helps with all the new development and all that happening. We've got the hot phones that help fund artist, grants and artist organization grants and all of those things festivals. I just we just applied for a flexible brand.

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You know um and then there's you know, there's um your other funding that they um are also able to use. So definitely it's all we're all working at all of that and trying to set up for what works. What makes the most sense for laredo kind of taking the best from other programs so that we can provide the best for you all.

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Right I mean the yo-yo ma uh uh fabulous performance was an indication. I think that just shows that it can be classical music or tejano music or whatever mariachi, music or whatever dance I mean we have institutions here. There's the floricle dance group.

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There's all kinds of beautiful things going on here that don't get a lot of exposure, so hopefully all of us working together this commission- and you know the arts plan and the city and the the people on the on the city council- will we'll we'll get it together and make it happen. I guess eventually.

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It's important, yes, I.

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Important to you is to look at projects that also have multimedia aspects and interactive artists relations, because that way you can also incorporate absolutely the music and the historical part.

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Yeah I mean I would love to see art installations like you know, the lighting that they do in san antonio, and I don't know where else I've seen them you. I think you showed us a few of those uh in.

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Presentation, because that does those do include music and yeah.

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And it would also like kind of go with the sculptural in the street. Enhanced.

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Furniture absolutely well, we should be so. I think we we have a lot of good things to look forward to.

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Somebody was plugged in and playing music. You know it was church related. I think it didn't remember sunday, um but you know outfitting some of those public areas so that people can easily access them to plug in and you know and do their music yeah.

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We actually, we actually started a vendor's market there, a while back it was called the team. um What was it called? uh I don't know, but it was la posada and and a few other people and we started this vendor's market and we would always have music playing in the gazebo and it would.

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Like from 10 in the morning till two in the afternoon, and then we moved it from like two to ten o'clock at night and we had a lot of people, it was, it was a really great start to, but they were using the gazebo. We had live music there, all the time or djs.

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Or whatever it was really cool, but it is it's a great little.

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Spot I agree or something like that.

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Yes, for a long time, the marine life guild did a lot of uh art shows.

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The art league- I know they were fabulous.

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We have a lot of history of really a lot of participation with our artists.

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The thing is that you know how: how does this committee falls into promoting those things or how is it that that we are we supposed to wait only on for the commissioners to determine where and how it's going to be done?.

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Or, or are we going to be able to tell the commissioner? This is what we're going to do, and this is the money that we're going to to utilize.

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Yeah, because we may have some artists that instead.

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Of going to the commissioners should come to us also and find out, you know if they are able to to provide their art for for the uh the buildings.

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Or for the surrounding areas.

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um And I think that I don't feel that number one that most of the artists know about this convention number two.

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I don't know if they fear that if they come here, the amount of money that they're going to get for their proposals are going to be less because that's the way that it's been yeah than what it actually costs they have spent. You know they they've done work for ten thousand dollars. But when you look at it, you say: oh, my god. If you just think about the square foot, there is no way yeah.

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Needs to be clarified in that you know, proposal that is being made as to where there is some kind of distinction as to the purpose.

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Of the estimation.

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To approve whatever happens to come our way, but to be able to formulate possibilities uh in order to be able to help the local artists and be able to expose their.

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World I thought I was under the impression that that was a purpose for us being commissioned, because all these proposals and all these ideas were supposed to come through our commission and then yes and then all of a sudden everybody started going. I mean we were. That was not followed. We were just like. We had no mission.

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But, according to the ordinance, you all are supposed to review and comment on the projects that are under development, and you should you should definitely supposed to have. The power to you know include recommendations on the process and the artists and the artworks collections. You all are supposed to have that power, but the way that things have worked in the past.

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It just hasn't worked out that way or you haven't really been given that opportunity, so we're hoping that when the master plan is adopted and um not just the master plan, but the annual public art plan that that will be followed. um We did have an initial conversation with the city manager a couple of months ago, and you know he said he was on board for the plan and he was excited to see it.

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And so um you know hopefully that hopefully that means that they will give you all that opportunity, um because it is stated in the ordinance that you know you all should have that authority. You know to um not select the artist but to review comments, and you know and recommend on the process.

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Know, for all of that does.

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It didn't it also say that there was to be a call for artists for any.

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Yeah, the equitable thing is that there should always be a call for artists. Okay,.

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Supposed to be widely publicized.

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And that's, that's! That's where they started. That's how we started exactly.

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Feel like that hasn't been the case, but it's out of our hands right, but I really think that's very important.

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Yeah, I think, moving forward. That should be something that equity that you've talked about earlier and that public publicizing these things. So all artists, all artists, haven't, had exactly do.

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We currently have uh some sort of a facebook page or anything like that to get the word out or just to study standards. You.

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Know the the call to artist is usually done by the purchasing department. It's advertised, uh it's on the city's web page when we didn't do it because.

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That's kind of challenging for, and I would think right somebody that doesn't know how to use you know the purchasing.

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Have facebook pages right.

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You're right, yes,.

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So we can put the word out there. You know.

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That's part of our condition, I mean what happened right.

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Yeah, I think that you all should.

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And tell people go to this place, go to the city side go here because there's a call to artist right now for this visit I mean yeah. We're gonna have to use our social media. If it comes to that. Why not.

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Yeah, okay, but I think it's important to have the.

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Process where everybody has their.

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To see you know what there's gonna, there's a possible mural at this site: yeah.

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And not only that, but to be able to have diverse ideas, for example any kind of project um you know one person can have a great. You know conversation on design, but somebody else may have an open that speaks more to the politics.

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Are things that I think we should be able to consider.

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Are we officially a designated cultural district.

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They're still working.

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On it, but they think they're going to get it because they were number four. There were three picked.

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That and we were number four so they feel like. We need another chance, yeah like for the next year. I think it's for 2022.. uh They already submitted the whole thing I believe or they're submitting it, but I think they think they have a really good chance. It.

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Was submitted in june 21st.

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Okay yeah. He knows because he's on that year, if we are or not when we are designated a cultural district, wouldn't that encompass.

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Just the art, but the performance we.

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Will accomplish everything.

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Everything yeah everything. Okay, so it's not! You know. I keep thinking, you know, you know, I'm very performance geared.

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And so to me, having a city.

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The arts is incomplete without you know, adding the performance and I keep wanting to say, hey, wait a minute. What about the performance and all these things? You know that that we need to incorporate and embrace. As part of you know, our whole plan yeah uh and I can't wait till we get to the signature.

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And I'm glad it's happening, I wish it happened 10 or 20 years ago, but here we are we're here in this moment and we're going to make it happen and it's very exciting.

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I know that for the promotion, if, if there's a call for artists, we can work with pio uh with public information office and they can post it on the cd facebook page.

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There's there's.

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You guys might also want to maybe compile a list of you know. Organizations, artists et.

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Cultural cetera was is doing that right. I know I saw that that post alissa asked for all artists anybody who's, an artist who's, a musician. All this they were requesting lists of names or.

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Anybody who knew anybody yeah, so I know they're.

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Putting together that.

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Yes, because I've been doing that for years myself here in houston- and you know I now have a list of- I don't know- probably 2 000, you know people who are artists, creatives.

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That's great ellie. I have a question as part of the master plan. Would we, as a commission also um have the opportunity to formulate like possible projects for the city or.

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Calls like we were saying like a multi-dimensional art, installation or.

G

So the the scope of the plan does not include too much about projects, but we are reserving we're trying to reserve some hours on the vacuum so that we can do some project work, but I think it would be. I think it would be a good idea for you all to conceptualize some. You know some ideas that we can look at to include into the master plan.

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Sure that would be, I think we could yeah add a voice too.

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We were thinking about. You know I guess cross crossing. You know different types of arts. uh You know some of the some of the programs that we'll suggest are like imprints of the sidewalks like when the sidewalks are getting redone.

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uh When they're operating sidewalks, that's your chance to do imprinted poetry, so you can work with you know you can do poetry contests or you can work with the whole laureate. You can do community workshops to come up with the poetry or whatever it is. You know things like that that do incorporate some of the other arts as well. We're really trying to keep an eye on so that we can include.

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That I've seen have you ever seen how on some streets, they paint the the poems and then, when it rains, you can see um the.

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That would be interesting.

H

Sorry, real quick does cip encompass utility projects as well, or just construction like uh building construction projects.

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To the ordinance utilities it is included, but it's very um it's kind of baby on exactly what and what we. What we think it means is because, based on what other cities are doing, that it just means anything above ground utility would qualify, but not an underground utility. Okay, um so I think so um you know uh utility property cover like, for example, using utility boxes.

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I think you guys might have.

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We're starting to do a banner district art, but just art banners not not where they are saying. Oh, come look at this event or whatever it's more like look at this art you know, and so the banners have art on them. uh We're doing corridors like that.

H

Is it possible to do like you know, I'm just putting a scenario. Let's just say you have a fire hydrant right. Can you put art next to the fire hydrant or does it have to be incorporating the actual material of the project.

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That's a good question because if.

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I'm pretty sure the city is going to do a bunch of improvements in utilities. If they have fire hydrants, can we put art next to them? You know.

D

Didn't it specify building any new building projects? Wasn't that what it was? Yes.

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Improve or renovate buildings parks, streets and the streets include the transportation system industry street skates and as far as utilities, it just says, city utility systems that are above ground.

D

Okay, so that's pretty loose.

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In a way, if it's big, that's that's.

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Good right, I would love to see art. You know next to fire, hey we'll put it there.

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Something there.

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Idea, because those are.

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All over the place and they're all over that's a that's.

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A great project you can get to get everything across all.

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The council, just yes,.

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Yes, yes, you can spread it out. Yeah.

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So that's why my question is: who would determine any of these projects since there's three different, which is architectural, which is the bureau's mosaics, uh building details, the lips, the landscape and it says sculptures fountains, plazas,.

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Then it says street streetscapes, which is the artist who has street furniture, but who would determine this if we don't have necessarily a say- and you know what I think oh like I can. I can honestly say for the downtown area. People have been asking like what about public art sculptures and a lot of art installations, because I know that would be.

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I know for budgets. That's kind of the easiest thing to do.

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That people are asking for that, but as part of the commission, I can't even recommend you know what, um in the downtown area, it'd be cool to have some sculptures like who would determine that.

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Isn't that gonna have to be like through you all and yeah like? If we have ideas, we would go through the the master plan or we would contact whoever's, putting together the master plan to kind of try and get our ideas incorporated in. That would not be that way that works.

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For now, yes, until until the mastermind is adopted,.

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And who's in charge of that.

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And then who's in charge.

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Of who's in charge of it after it's.

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Okay, well, that's then we would just like make recommendations starting you know what um there's there's a site: specif, a site, specific art, installation that.

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Cool and then we kind of have to like already match the artist and come to you with a budget already. Is that.

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I don't need the artist open well, it just depends. You know. If you have artist proposals, I mean that's when I I recommend setting up a grant system for.

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Know so you can that's a good idea.

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Specifically, but you know there should be a system where, but the cfp is, for the most part going to happen on the sites, whether that particularly.

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Where they're right, you know.

G

F

And as a follow-up to the 15 or the percentage from the whole occupancy text, I agree the idea of using it as a grant program.

E

F

Artist in the community performance or.

E

F

Or anytime can come to us and say and request and.

D

Require stations.

F

Through us, but obviously with.

A

B

Exactly yeah the.

F

Input and the approval of the commission that we can say: okay, these grants are going to be approved uh everybody's in agreement and then we'll move forward with the the different projects.

B

A

If it's not the commission, if it's not right.

D

A

Other stakeholders in the community, but it's not and.

F

So far, they've all been meaningful.

A

F

um We just need to define that funding source, yes right, which we're trying to figure out once we figure out the funding source, then we open up to everything that you were saying with performance, music, others.

B

E

I feel like now the the sculpture is already in the plate um place because of this. The sculpture that was approved by this community.

D

E

Going to be yeah.

D

That show maybe.

E

That that, in itself uh opens up to the idea that.

F

Exposures are supposed.

E

To be, and I believe that councilman martin martinez.

D

E

Procure funds to be able to allow this particular artist to create similar type of sculptural compositions to be placed in different areas in the park somewhere else.

A

Yeah because it would be nice to see sculpture, gardens within the plazas. um That's also.

B

E

To well when we received several sculptures and even different projects for open for the park itself were really interesting, so I don't see why not. Some of those concepts that were brought to us cannot be also included into different areas of the city. All right.

D

There's just so many ideas, you know and I think.

E

B

Going to focus.

D

You know a lot more and really get things going really excited.

D

But I know the artists.

G

G

Is that you know, sometimes they don't sometimes here. Usually the maximum is ten thousand like julio just said that doesn't necessarily cover you know an entire project. I know it doesn't for us so a lot of times, even though I think there's also going to be some education that needs to go along with this.

G

That artists understand that, even though sometimes they also have to do outside fundraising, to be able to, you know fulfill their project, because sometimes the rents aren't going to be large enough, because you want to be able to distribute them to many artists right and if you start distributing these large ones, then it's going to limit the amount of artists that that can you know that will be eligible to receive it. So you know some of it will have to be your education and professional development with the artists that they understand that you know.

G

Sometimes they will have to look for other funding sources to supplement their grants.

A

So moving on, does anybody have any questions or comments about the budget or the recommended budget for the 2022? This later.

D

Oh, like I mean, are we ready to vote on that.

A

G

The budget for 2022 is 300 and we the weight that was the calculation that was given to us from the finance department and the way that we distributed it, at least for this first year, um is to do well because the way the cip funding was allocated, it was allocated one million per district and then um the remaining was city-wide, and so we followed the same thing in the public art funding in that we did two percent of the one million per district.

G

So that's 20, 000 per um that does not mean that the council member gets to decide that project. That just means that it's we're trying to do an equitable distribution of the funds and then the remaining 140 000 would be for citywise.

G

You know, maybe that's focused on downtown, because we're trying to bring tourism to downtown or educate another area that gets identified over against multiple areas. But um you know it won't be district specific, but from that city-wide public fund, then you should be able to also pay for program administration um there's at least five percent in there for conservation and restoration um with um cip dollars. You can't pay for like routine maintenance, but if something is in disrepair or you know something like that, then the conservation fund um would help that.

G

So, for example, when we did when we looked at the murals, um we saw the one at the fire station. It was live station or fire station um administration building, maybe where they had a mural in the back it looked like it was maybe everything in the 90s.

G

So um you wanted to restore something like that. Then you could use the conservation function for that and then the remaining would be used for a major city, art project for.

G

A

So program administration was 45 000, the conservation fund was 15 000 and then it says major civic art projects, 80 000.

A

Any questions or comments about that.

A

All right, so do you want? We want to go ahead and vote.

A

To approve the annual public art plan for 2022.

D

I move that we adopt that we accepted.

D

I will say that we'll learn from our mistakes. The first time around.

D

If there's any mistakes, hopefully not only not, but it's good, because we have no idea right. This is something all new to us and I'm glad we're a part of it. So yeah it's going to be a learning experience. I'm excited.

G

It will, and then you know in the next year when the next plan comes around, then you have a little more knowledge right. Absolutely.

D

And we're still here or not replaced by other people.

A

Is just scheduling your next meeting and any possible items to include on the agenda.

C

It is scheduled for august the 19th, which is the third thursday.

H

Same time same.

C

F

The previous meeting there were some questions about keeping it here or moving it to at one point moving into downtown. uh We can. We can have that discussion or um put it to to vote.

B

This meeting or the.

F

F

Or eventually move it to downtown sorry.

D

H

Like it like it's here, too,.

D

I live in the heights.

B

F

So the next one.

E

B