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From YouTube: Historic District Landmark Board Meeting 010920
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Historic District Landmark Board Meeting 010920
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The
motion
carries
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
consideration
of
approval
of
minutes
I
have
a
written
request
from
board
members
at
full
dinner,
some
Corrections
on
the
minutes,
the
first
being
that
I
shared
the
meeting
and
the
minutes
reflect
that
miss
Romani
had
was
sharing
the
minute.
The
meeting
I
did
excuse
myself
in
an
item
and
returned
to
share
the
me
the
meeting,
the
other
correction
for
missile
event
that
she
did
not
second,
a
motion
and
or
any
of
the
motions
of
the
meeting
of
December
12.
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We
will
now
move
to
item
number
five
public
hearing
and
consideration
of
the
following.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
open
public
hearing
and
possible
action
to
consider
facade
improvements
on
lot,
5
block
21
Western
Division,
located
at
1,000
satoru
surgery
in
order
to
enclose
existing
wraparound
balcony
on
the
second
floor
to
function
as
an
additional
dining
area,
districts
and
I
was
deemed
a
little
historic
district,
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B
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2020
I'm.
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G
In
the
structure
that
we've
looked
at
and
we
looked
at
many
many
different
scenarios
and
adding
on
to
the
attacking
room,
but
we
wanted
to
keep
the
tack
room
intact
as
it
is
beautiful
building
we're
proposing
that
you
know
we're
gonna,
eat
clothing
in
in
grass
a
little
different
from
that
I
think
the
last
presentation
that
we're
going
to
use
a
structural
silicone
glazing
within
the
glass
where
you
can't
there's
no,
no
framework,
anything
that's
from
the
bottom
of
the
table.
So
it's
it
looks
completely
cleaned
on
that
and
pretty
much.
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The
building
itself
has
the
foundation
to
hold
it
up,
because
we
did
that
three
or
four
years
ago
and
they
was
struggling.
We
had
we
had
all
the
work
taken
off.
We
had
team
Anthony
now
killed
structural
beef
put
in
and
then
we
recovered
him
just
the
way
it
was,
and
we
want
to
keep
the
truck
like
that.
I
know
mrs.
Dixon,
which
I
met
with
prior
to
this
meeting
about
a
week
ago.
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G
G
Then
it
slides
in
and
then
structural,
the
silicone
grant.
Actually
it's
like
they
eat
it.
Up
where
it
looks.
There's
no,
you
can't
see
any
kind.
It's
just
it's
just
a
straight
back
one
o'clock,
so
you
really
won't
notice
that
P
glasses
there
I
think
it's
a
night.
During
the
day
it
darkens
up
a
little
during
the
night.
It
lights
up
a
little,
but
you
won't
see
any
kind
of
framing
or
any
kind
of
seams
or
anything
it's
a
little
more
expensive,
but
she
wanted
to
make
sure
they
didn't
show
it.
G
G
Admitted
that
the
last
time
there
was
an
actual
drawing
on
that
we've
had
to
put
they
asked
for
from
an
engineer
an
architect.
We
send
everything
out
now
we're
waiting
to
see.
We
get
approval
to
take
it
to
the
city
building
department,
so
we
can
get
that
we
can
go
to
see
what
they
don't
want
to
make
sure
that
put
in
there,
but
without
we
taught
them
before
we're
pretty
much
income,
we're
being
compliant
with
everything
that
they're
asking
us
to
do.
You.
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I,
stick
teller,
we're
looking
at
we're.
Looking
at
all
that
pride
doing
all
of
this,
you
know
what
it's
we
ran.
It
up,
I
think
that
what
we're
proposing
and
think,
if
you
actually
go
back
to
me,
it's
actually,
it's
actually
called
for
not
other
cities
actually
do
this.
It's
not
a
first
thing
that
we're
doing
it's
on
the
second
level,
and
this
is
how
you
preserve
the
of
the
older
buildings.
So
you
didn't,
let's
go
get
used
to
them,
keep
the
beauty
of
them,
but
without
touching
the
structure
to
it,
that's
all
and.
I
We
understand
that
and
we're
here
to
help
you
or
the
application
process
along,
because
we
understand
how
maybe
a
table
in
the
item
last
time
could
be
a
burdensome
to
a
business
and
as
the
Historic
Landmark
board,
we
might
have
the
reputation
of
holding
things
back,
but
it
was
not
because
of
this
board.
It
was
because
administratively,
it
was
not
administered
correctly
with
staff.
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My
two
sentiment
I
think
that
we
went
to
stab
I,
think
everything
staff
asked
for
it
was
presented.
The
only
thing
everything
that
we're
presenting
we're
not
trained
in
anything
from
last
week.
They're
just
telling
you
who
was
the
structure
is
that
the
presentation
that
was
given
to
y'all
and
everything
that
we
asked
for
was
actually
which
are
eternia
with
our
attorney
that
the
last
them
to
sign
was
signed
by
mr.
Chuck
hedges,
which
is
not
the
owner.
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A
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I
think
right
here
on
this
deed,
it
says
payment
and
purchase
note
of
this
further.
An
addition
is
secured
by
the
deed
of
trust
of
even
date
year
within
from
grantee
to
Charles
I've
had
just
junior
trustee,
covering
the
property
and
all
related
rights.
Titles
and
interest
convey
to
hereby
to
the
grantee.
So
I
would
imagine
that
this
deed
said
that
mr.
hedges
is
the
person
that
would
be
signing.
F
I
I
Yet
this
was
not
the
landmark
court,
it
was
staffs
mistake
for
not
submitting
it
and
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear,
because
it
is
very
disappointing
that
we're
here
to
volunteer
and
do
something
for
the
community,
and
you
all
are
being
sent
back
and
forth
saying
this
and
we
need
to
do
I
could
see
how
you
could
get
frustrated.
I,
get
frustrated.
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A
To
advise
you
that
the
project
needs
to
also
be
approved
by
the
text,
Oracle
Commission,
so
there's
a
state
level
in
the
local
level.
So
the
technicalities
of
these
of
how
you
get
constructed
and
so
forth.
Perhaps
the
tint
or
you
know.
If
it's
going
to
be
you
know,
reflective
or
not.
Those
all
will
be
construction
drawings
that
need
to
be
submitted
to
the
State
Historic
Preservation
officer,
which
is
in
Austin
for.
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I
Has
a
board
we're
requesting
it
because
it
is
a
building
that
is
extremely
significant
and
it's
contributing
to
the
National
Register.
So
we
are
asking
for
the
state's
help
just
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
done
to
help
them
move
their
projects
forward,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
that
the
decision
that
we
make
falls
in
line
with
the
standards
for.
I
The
standards
basically
turn
into
guidelines
for
us.
It's
a
guideline.
It's
it's!
What
we
use
to
help
make
a
decision,
because
it's
not
a
set
rule,
so
it's
on
a
tournament
bit
case-by-case
basis,
I,
don't
foresee
it
taking
too
long.
It
might
just
be
a
matter
of
getting
a
full
con,
getting
him
to
quickly
review
what
we
decided,
because
usually
what
they
say
is
that
they
go
with
the
recommendation
from
the
city.
G
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A
Not
this
okay
and
so
Fernandez
is
that
in
the
standards
that
we
use
as
a
guideline,
there
are
several
details
that
your
project
is
a
little
different
than
the
samples
that
they
give
us,
and
one
is
whether
this
is
allowed
on
a
primary
facade
versus
a
secondary
facade.
Another
one
is
whether
this
is
acceptable.
When
there
is
a
new
use,
they
use
a
terminologies
when
it's
a
new
user
is
that
signing
closure
or
historic
/
porches
when
required,
for
a
new
use.
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And
and
it's
not
that
we're
trying
to
be
nitpicky
or
difficult
yeah,
most
underpaint
from
the
marketing
standpoint.
You
know
very
very
well,
but
you
are
saying
like
what
is
the
crown
jewel
of
Laredo
hood?
That
is
what
makes
Laredo
so
attractive,
and
so
the
purpose
is
to
preserve
integrity
and
the
first
as
much
of
the
pristine
character
of
the
area.
So
that
way
it
can.
It
can
continue
being
that
and
it's
not
that
we're
trying
to
pick
on
you
or
or
say
you
know
the
whole
media.
G
The
only
thing
I'm
trying
to
do
is
making
sure
that
you
know
what
we
protect
everything's
Charles
to
protect,
but
I'm
also
concentrating
and
making
sure
that
we're
able
to
to
use
these
buildings
to
the
full
capacity.
And
if
not,
you
know
what
that
jewels,
not
gonna,
be
here
long,
because
we've
kept
on
the
whole
thing
and
walk
somewhere
else
know.
So
we
don't
want
to
believe
me.
We
participate
in
everything
they
do
downtown
because
we
believe
it
downtown
from
the
church
to
everything
that
happens
so
we're
trying
to
follow
the
guidelines.
H
D
C
Guess,
because
I'm
sort
of
new
at
this,
at
least
for
this
this
period
as
far
as
whether
I'm
not
these,
this
project
and
other
projects
follow
the
guidelines.
For
example,
a
secretary
of
interior
or
the
city
of
Laredo
historic
design,
safety
code
regulations.
Is
it
the
the
planning
department
that
basically
signs
off
on
that
they're.
I
K
K
Secretary
standards
for
historic
preservation
and
guidelines
as
well,
this
is
online
we've
sent
a
link
we'll
send
a
link
as
well
for
each
of
y'all
to
review
this.
This
is
not
just
something:
it's
very
user
friendly,
very
readable.
You
can
look
at
it
and
be
able
to
refer
to
it
when
you're,
considering
something
that's
coming
up.
Our
ordinance
doesn't
say
that
we
follow
this.
Our
ordinance
says
that
we
utilize
this
as
a
reference
and
just
as
as
the
board
member
via
reality
stated.
K
These
are
guidelines,
they're,
not
rules,
and
if
you
look
at
the
introduction
of
this
itself,
it
tells
us
that,
in
cases
of
applying
this,
that
you
should
consider
the
economic
situation
of
the
applicant,
you
should
consider
the
realist
the
reality
of
putting
in
place
what
these
standards
are.
So
they're,
not
rules
they're
guidelines,
as
the
board
members
say
it
now
as
staff.
We
look
at
this
first
when
we
make
our
recommendation,
which
is
what
we
did
when
we
for
this
applicant.
K
M
Madam
chair,
a
little
axiom
to
also
mention
one
thing,
as
your
discussion
has
been
going
on
through
my
pretty
vast
experience,
working
a
commune
of
element
fire
to
be
moved
to
building
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
historic
preservation
in
terms
of
the
State
Historic
Preservation
Office.
In
the
way
they
function.
The
two
aspects
of
the
conversation
that
we
were
having
was
one
through
the
Main
Street
program.
The
State
Historic
Preservation
Office
provides
a
free
program
for
those
people
that
would
like
the
the
private
residents
that
would
like
that
probably
would
not
be
able
to
afford.
M
And
how
to
do
some
minor
improvements
and
recommendations,
and
then
they
can
then
utilize
that
to
bring
over
to
you
to
be
able
to
provide
you
something
a
little
bit
more
professional
format.
Now,
that's
one
aspect
of
it.
The
second
aspect
of
it
is
when
you
send
something
to
the
State
Historic
Landmark
board,
especially
from
us.
M
My
experience
has
always
been
that
primarily
you
get
your
required,
not
not
suggested
you're
required
when
you
have
state
or
federal
funds,
because
if
it's
relates
to
historic
preservation
as
part
of
the
environmental
clearance
processes
that
you
need
to
do
that
in
this
case,
there's
no
federal
funding,
there's
no
state
funding.
This
is
a
private
funder
entity.
M
I
Right,
we
we
just
want,
and
it's
not
gonna,
be
the
whole
process
the
way
mr.
Garcia's
used
to
it.
We
just
want
to
get
clarification
from
Hansell
that
what
we
did
move
forward
with,
if
there's
any
suggestions
of
maybe
that
type
of
railing
is
not
the
best
if
you'll
be
able
to
work
with
you,
because
we
want
to
help
you
get
this
approved,
oh
and
with
certain
considerations
just
like
this,
so
that
we
help
you
do
this
now
versus
cabling
it
and
wasting
everybody's
time
again.
I.
M
G
G
A
G
Building
I
think
we're
ready
if
they
again
there's
no,
if
there's
no,
if
there's
no
other
stuff
that
we
need
to
just
locate.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
actually
read
that
and
then
we
sent
it
off
to
MIT
ihnen,
so
they
could
read
it
to
make
sure
we're
compliant
we're
ready
to
sit
tomorrow.
We
have
to
wait
because
we
already
sat
went
down
just
to
see
what
building
needs.
So
we
get
this
going.
We
pretty
much
set
ourself
up.
L
E
A
M
Well,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
at
the
last
thing,
I
did
address
it
to
the
board
there.
There
were
some
concerns
for
staff,
we're
not
a
hundred
percent
sure
since
they're
not
a
servant,
but
we
believe
it's
encroaching
onto
the
right-of-way
and,
yes,
we
are
addressing
that
approval
of
staff,
so
they
do
have
options.
So
they
have
a
few
other
hurdles
to
jump
over
so
but
they're,
aware
of
them,
and
now.
H
M
I
C
H
I
To
work
with
them
to
to
make
sure
that
their
project
works,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
get
that
the
people
that
they're
using
because
they're,
not
historic
preservation
company
that
does
this
kind
of
work,
that
they
just
have
some
sort
of
guidance
and
peace.
You
know
whoever's
like
building
into
the
building
is,
is
safeguarding
the
facade
of
that.
L
It's
it's
tough
it
when
I'm
in
construction-
and
it's
I
mean
that's,
not
very
visual,
that's
very
hard
to
achieve,
and
it
seems
like
they're
trying
to
do
it
and
when
I've
been
doing
these
projects
they're
time
sensitive
and
having
them
come
back
a
month
later,
I
think
that
would
be
a
disservice
to
them.
I
think
we
should
that's.
C
K
A
Would
ask
for
them
to
have
a
professional
that
historic
preservation
type
that
can
understand
the
standards
that
they
have
to
meet,
and
so,
when
the
drawings
are
prepared,
that
they
are
meeting
these
standards
that
are
identified
and
or
to
work
with
it,
Texas,
Historical,
Commission
and
so
forth,
or
any
other
division
thereof.
I.
K
A
J
J
A
N
N
There's
nothing
on
our
own
guidelines
that
this
should
not
be
a
pool
or
should
be
approve.
You
don't
have
anything.
So
this
goes
back
to
us
going
back
and
updating
our
guidelines.
We
don't
have
anything
there.
So
that's
what
we
have
all
these
confusion
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we
need
to
go
back
and
now.
J
E
C
A
A
I
A
Know
if
we
look
at
the
recommendations
of
staff,
it
indicates
that
all
proposed
improvements
shall
follow
the
recommendations
and
comply
with,
and
it
lists
four
documents:
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
guidelines
for
reality
dating
historic
buildings.
Second,
the
city
of
Laredo,
historic
urban
design,
guidelines.
Third,
the
city
of
Laredo,
historic
preservation,
plan
supplement,
1.2
design
standards
for
local
historic
districts
and
for
building
fire
and
life
safety
code
requirements,
as
required,
and
the
city
of
Nevada
sign
ordinance.
C
I
guess
I
guess
one
question
there
is
it?
Was
there
some
reasonable
attempt
to
to
have
the
out
the
changes,
follow
their
guidelines
in
those
four
bodies
and
and
when
you
know,
I
I
misunderstood
it
when
it
said
that
the
staff
approved
I
assumed
that
that
meant
that
they
qualified
under
those
four
guidelines
but
I,
guess
that
that's
not
true.
It's
not
correct.
There.
A
Not
the
primary
facade
but
a
secondary
facade
meeting
at
a
side
view
or
in
the
back
or
it's
not
on
a
frontal
Street
and
the
other
being
whether
this
was
a
new
use,
as
opposed
to
an
existing
years,
so
they're
technicalities
on
on
how
the
standards
read
and
whether
they
apply.
We
do
not
apply
to
this
place,
though,.
C
K
Yes
and
if
I
might
provide
a
little
clarification
on
that,
it
doesn't
say
a
new
use,
it
says
if
the
proposed
use
cannot
be
cannot
be
taken
care
of
with
the
existing
program.
In
other
words,
they
want
to
expand
what
they're
doing
and
they
can't
expand
because
they're
limited
with
their
square
footage,
so
they
want
to
use
their
balcony
all
during
that
throughout
the
year,
which
is
why
they
want
to
climate
control
without
pain.
So
what
the
recommendations
say?
The
guidelines,
if
the
proposed
use
can't
be
accommodated
in
the
existing
building,
then
there
are.
D
B
K
K
K
Don't
destroy
the
hippy,
the
historic
materials
features
or
spatial
relationships
and
number
10
new
additions
and
adjacent
or
related
construction
will
be
undertaken
in
such
a
manner
that,
if
removed
in
the
future,
the
essential
form,
integrity,
historic
property
and
its
environment
would
be
unimpaired.
So
these
are
the
standards
that
start
that
section
and
then
the
Secretary
of
interior's
manual
provides
them
recommendations
on
how
to
achieve
that,
and
that's
what
I
provided
in
video.
But
this.
K
It
and
it's
set,
and
so
and
then
it
provides
some
recommendations
on
how
you
can
achieve
that,
how
you
can
accommodate
our
proposed
use
and
not
harming
the
historic
nature
and
what
I
provided
the
miss
Fonseca
is
correct.
It's
it's!
It
is
not
a
primary
elevation,
although
on
that
site,
arguably
it
doesn't
have
a
primary
elevation
because
doesn't
front
a
road
at
corners,
a
road
but
I
would
agree.
It
probably
wouldn't
consider
that
a
secondary
halation.
K
However,
you
can
see
that
the
Secretariat
earier
does
recommend
that,
in
closing
a
porch
is
something
that
can
be
done
closing
with
glass,
where
you
can
still
see
the
features
and
you're
not
harming
to
be
used
for
materials.
So
that's
why
I
provided
that
in
the
staff
recommendation,
but
I
want
to
highlight
this
one
thing,
because
this
will
come
up
again
and
again
and
in
miss
Bea
reality.
You
brought
this
up
and
it's
a
very
good
point,
and
that
is
from
the
Secretary
of
interior's
own
own
introduction.
K
To
guidance,
it's
not
something
that
has
to
be
followed:
it's
not
rules
its
guidance,
because
if,
if
these
rules
were
were
in
such
a
way
that
we
wouldn't
need
a
board,
we
could
administered
by
staff
if
we
have
rules
that
took
care
of
every
situation,
but
they
don't
some
are
fairly
unique
and
that's
why
we
have
a
board
to
decide.
Okay,
here
are
some
guidelines,
and
what
do
you
think
is
the
best
fit
considering
the
economic
situation.
A
I'm
gonna
add
to
that
a
statement.
That's
highlighted
along
with
what
I've
been
presented,
and
it
says
the
following
work
is
highlighted
to
indicate
that
it
represents
the
particularly
complex,
technical
or
design
aspects
of
rehabilitation
projects
and
should
only
be
considered
after
the
preservation
concerns
listed
above
have
been
addressed.
I'm
just
highlighting
here
the
fact
that
this
is
a
complex,
technical
and
design
aspects.
A
I
A
motion
and
I'm
gonna
wear
this
in
the
best
way
possible
to
help
you
all
and
those
applicants
in
the
future
so
that
it's
not
so
difficult
right.
So
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion.
I
move
to
approve
facade
improvements
to
1,000
SATA
losses,
with
the
understanding
that
la
posada
will
seek
professionals
in
historic
in
the
historic
preservation
field,
whether
that's
from
the
state
or
your
own
architect,
because
I
know
you
do
work
with
chip
Briscoe
as
just
as
long
as
he
somehow
oversees
just
how
you
all
are
gonna.
I
C
L
D
Just
want
to
say
for
the
record
mr.
SEO
we're
all
shooting
for
the
same
goal:
we're
not
trying
to
be
against
to
it.
We're
all
trying
to
get
to
do
the
same,
the
same
goal
as
far
as
preserving,
and
so
we
do.
Thank
you
for
making
a
lot
of
efforts.
Your
predecessors
have
made
a
lot
to
preserve
that
area
and
you
occupy
a
huge
space
in
that
area,
and
so
we
just
want
to
work
with
you
to
ensure
that
future
generations.
G
C
K
As
always
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
service.
I
also
want
to
say
that
miss
Fonseca
came
in
a
couple
days
ago.
Sack
Wong
had
a
great
conversation
and
that's
something
I
would
like
to
do
with
each
of
y'all
any
time
you
want
to
come
in
and
chat
and
I
felt
like
we
have
a
lot
of
common
ground,
I.
Think
as
the
new
planning
director
and
as
the
planning
department,
we
oversee
the
Historic,
Landmark
Board
and
indeed
historic
districts
as
the
Planning
Director
I,
think.
K
The
main
advantage
I
have
is
that
I
came
to
Laredo
without
any
friends
I'm,
not
here
to
work
on
anybody's
agenda
I'm
not
here
to
get
anything
I'm
here
you
go
good
job
for
the
citizens
of
Laredo
and
as
such,
I
value
a
process.
That's
fair!
That's
simple!
It's
easy
to
navigate
and
that
treats
everybody
the
same
so
for
all
of
the
boards.
Commission's
that
we
oversee
we've
been
trying
to
provide
training.
We've
been
trying
to
clean
up
the
ordinance.
We
try
to
cut
out
things
that
are
necessary,
try
to
make
it
easier,
simpler,
fair!
K
A
lot
of
this
can
be
accomplished
through
our
recode,
the
rate
of
what
we've
already
started
in
in
other
areas.
Trying
to
accomplish
that
we're
gonna
do
the
same
here.
We
want
to
work
with
you
as
a
board
to
do
so.
One
of
the
one
of
the
points
that
mr.
Fonseca
and
I
discussed
was
that
there
is
a
lot
of
non-compliance
in
the
historic
districts
and
we
want
to
achieve
greater
compliance
for
the
parts
that
really
matter
and
for
those
that
aren't
as
important.
K
So
I
would,
as
we
get
into
this,
because
it's
not
gonna
happen
right
now,
but
as
we
get
into
this
over
the
next,
maybe
a
year
or
two
I
would
want
to
sit
down
with
each
board
member
and
understand
that
their
priorities
are
and
and
what
they've
learned
their
experience
from
serving
on
the
board
and
as
we
make
changes
that
we
bring
that
to
you
and
then
and
then
we'll
bring
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
City
Council,
as
we
have
to
with
all
the
doors
and
changes
that
we
propose.
So
I'm
I'm.
K
I
K
We
don't
have
any
set
aside
right
now,
but
that
is
something
as
well
in
this
one.
Second
I
talked
about
how
we
do
want
to
be
able
to
have
fun
set
aside,
so
that
we
can
do
not
just
the
protecting
of
historic
structures,
but
that
we
can
do
some
proactive
work
in
historic
districts
with
helping
owners
apply
for
grants,
helping
them
understand
the
programs
that
are
at
a
local
state
and
federal
level
that
all
requires
staff
time
it
requires
creating
website
getting
information
out.
Those
are
all
things
we
want
to
do.
D
Perhaps
maybe
at
some
point
a
joint
meeting
between
our
board
and
the
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau
because
of
the
last
real
places
conference
that
we
went
to.
They
stress
how
Historic
Preservation
and
heritage
tourism
go
hand
in
hand,
and
so
I
know
that
that
the
CVB
sites
work
at
the
CEV,
and
I
used
to
be
a
board
member
at
the
scene
evening.
A
lot
of
the
focus
has
been
on
international
tourism,
mainly
from
Mexico
at
the
expense
of
domestic
and
the
domestic
traveler.
D
The
trend
is
that
the
historic
historical
sites
are
a
big
draw
and
we
had
a
lot
of
historic
sites
and
perhaps
a
joint
meeting
regarding
like
the
st.
Augustine
st.
Peter's
district,
which
is
growing
in
hospitality,
I,
can
see
how
the
preservation
work
that
we
do
is
going
to
help
with
the
CVB
can
potentially
do
in
attracting
and
perhaps
turning
st.
Peters
into
a
little
green.
That's.
L
L
Been
great
with
me,
with
my
better
breakfast
they've
they've,
gotten
a
lot
of
people
to
go
out.
There
take
videos.
I
came
out
in
Austin
on
one
of
their
programs.
Yeah
I
mean
showing
my
better
breakfast
also
came
out
a
little
a
shiny
side
of
breakfast
doing
an
interview.
Giving
me
really
good
big
press
they've
done
a
great
job
and
know
that
they'll
do
a
great
job
in
trying
to
show
you
how
they
do
person
as
well.
I
I
We
had
all
hats,
of
course,
the
expectation
that
we
all
have
had
before
without
a
Hanina
and
when
you
have
a
big
investor
or
a
small
investor
and
they're
told
to
come
back
again
and
come
back
again
because
it's
not
meeting
the
requirement,
it's
very
frustrating
and
it's
not
the
actual
board.
Because
if
you
look
at
our
record,
we
approve
the
majority
of
things
that
come
to
us,
but
when
the
actual
process
is
not
being
handled
properly
and
when
your
application
gives
you
the
directions
on
how
to
fill
it
out.
I
And
that
is
not
being
done
properly,
then
that's
where
I
have
a
problem,
because
now
your
people
I
know
mr.
Garcia.
If
it's
he
told
me
before
he
gets
frustrated
or
their
landmark
board
I
get
frustrated.
Also.
We
need
to
nip
that
in
the
bud
and
make
sure
that
that
that
doesn't
happen,
because
if
the
application
says
one
thing,
then
that's
what
we
should
do
and
if
that's
not
what
we
wanted
you,
then
we
need
to
revise
it.
I.
B
K
In
other
words,
you
said,
if
you
you
trusted
that
Ali
would
have
required
the
owner
to
do
it.
I
did
not
get
personally
involved
with
the
application
process.
It
has
been
the
same
as
it
has
on
previous,
so
it
wasn't
somebody
trying
to
change
the
process
now.
I
agree
who
do
need
to
change
the
application
process
to
make
it
not
so
difficult
for
an
applicant
and
to
make
that
because
it
is
a
pretty
difficult
application
anyway,.
I
C
I
We
were
going
back
and
forth
during
that
last
meeting
and
at
one
point
it
seemed
as
an
act
of
desperation
just
trying
to
get
it
trying
to
get
the
application
in
and
getting
the
application
into
it
worried.
At
one
point,
you
did
say
that
you
had
documentation
stating
that
mr.
Garcia
was
the
property
on
her
back
at
their
office,
and
then
stock
went
back
to
clarify
that
that
was
incorrect.
I
H
I
K
D
K
K
Would
say
yes
definitely,
but
I
would
also
then
ask
the
board
to
do
something
as
well,
and
that
is
as
the
application
states
can
you
come
to
that
page.
Please,
Holly
pointed
to
something
that
we
should
always
be
reminded
of,
and
that
is
that
this
application
is
being
processed
for
historic
review
only
so
if
questions
that
go
beyond
historic
view,
review
such
as
ownership
or
building,
you
know
Building
Department
questions.
D
A
And
I
think
we
can
close
this
with
an
understanding
that
legal
advise
that
we
can't
continue
to
conduct
ourselves
in
the
manner
that
we
have
been
as
long
as
we're
being
fair
to
all
and
I
think
that
was
the
primary
concern
last
month
that
in
that
meeting,
we
were
not
being
fair
to
others
if
we
were
going
to
treat
or
handle
the
application
process
different
from
how
we've
been
conducting
it
in
the
last.
Why
I've
been
here
two
or
three
years
right
all.
I
D
K
We
are
going
to
be
changing
the
way
that
we
present
items
for
all
of
our
boards
and
commissions.
We
should
be
making
a
presentation,
that's
the
typical,
the
typical
practice.
So
what
we'll
do
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we'll
see
when
we
implement
it
well,
I
think
will
be
helpful
for
the
board.
The
staff
will
first
get
up
and
give
a
presentation
of
what's
what's
in
the
staff
report
briefly,
so
that
then
the
public
who's
watching
who
may
not
like,
for
instance
today,
you
asked:
is
there
a
presentation?
K
That's
exactly
what
in
the
future,
we'd
like
to
do
give
a
very
brief
few
minute
say:
this
is
the
property.
This
is
the
location.
This
is
the
zoning.
This
is
what
they're
planning
to
do.
This
is
what
you'll
highlight
what
they've
submitted
and
then
provide
our
staff
recommendation.
That
way,
there's
a
context
for
the
meeting
that
the
public
then
understands
the
application
yourself,
and
then
there
can
be
a
discussion
that
goes
for
it.