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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting 050522
A
C
D
A
motion.
We
have
a
second
okay.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
All
right
motion
carries
next
item
and
he
says
it's
common
signed
up.
No
sir.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
into
public
hearings.
First
item
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinances
city
lawyer
by
rezoning,
lock,
2
8
block
16
subdivision
unit.
What
is
that.
F
Okay,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
the
applicant
florida
j2k
development,
which
is
the
owner.
We
have
empire
c
s
ac,
which
is
applicant,
and
the
representative.
The
property
location,
is
lot
to
a
block.
16
led
in
subdivision
unit
19.,
located
at
5210
south
of
hilo
avenue
zone
change,
request
from
a
b1
and
b3
to
a
b3
proposed
uses,
a
commercial
retail
which
is
a
sign
letter
sent
is
25,
none
for
none
against.
F
D
A
E
A
A
A
A
motion
to
approve
yes:
do
we
have
a
second
second
and
a
second
all.
Those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
hi,
hi
aye
motion
carries
the
next
items,
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
ordinance
for
volunteer
annexation
and
initials
ordered
at
b4,
3.2910
acres
known
as
annexation
track,
one
the
gupta
tracks
located
east
of
eg
ranch,
road
and
north
of
state,
highway,
59.,
okay,.
B
B
A
B
So,
oh
so
what
we
found
initially
with
regards
to
the
annexation
is,
we
did
reach
out
to
the
county
and
they
did
confirm
that
there
are
some
current
violations
of
the
properties
currently
being
used
as
a
salvage
yard,
and
so
the
county
does
have
a
junkyard
order,
screening
order
which
are
not
in
compliance
at
this
time
and
then
and
then.
Secondly,
on
the
proposed
initial
zoning,
they
are
requesting
a
b4,
but
based
on
our
rules,
they
would
need
at
least
a
minimum
of
m1
or
higher,
with
a
special
for
me.
Yes
right
so.
G
E
B
A
Limits
right
now:
yes,
so
the
rationale
or
the
reasoning
that
for
your
denial
right
now
is
basically
based,
because
the
county
has
concerns
on
them,
not
following
the
county
rules
and
regulations
that
is
corrupt.
So
if
this
property
were
to
be
annexed,
it
down
falls
into
the
city
of
laredo
rules
and
regulations,
correct
for
the
enforcement.
So
I
don't
see
I'm
trying
to
understand
it
enough,
but
I
can't
see
it
at
this
point,
but
that's.
E
A
Well,
the
thing
is
this:
is
an
annexation.
You've
got
an
existing
property
who's
been
operating
as
a
junkyard,
okay,
they're
asking
for
annexation.
The
annexation
is
one
thing
the
zoning
is
the
other.
That's
right,
I
mean
we
can
bring
you
in
as
an
annexation,
but
then
you've
got
the
incorrect
zoning
to
operate
so
they're
going
to
shut
you
down
unless
you're
zoning,
the
correct
zone.
A
B
A
H
Good
evening
this
is
I'm
ricardo
ramos
with
iron
engineering,
and
I
spoke
about
this
project
with
the
with
the
plan
and
zoning.
In
the
issues
that
came
up
my
client,
he
had
purchased
his
property,
he
wasn't
the
previous
owner.
So
when
we
submitted
this
package,
he
just
you
know
he
kept
what
he
thought
was
a
legal
subdivision
right.
So
in
light
of
this,
you
know
we
agree
with
what
staff
is
saying.
H
As
far
as
all
these
legal
issues,
we
want
to
take
care
of
them
with
the
web
county,
because
I,
when
I
told
him
about
this,
he's
like
well,
you
know
ricardo.
I
just
I
thought
we
wanted
to
leave
it
as
it
is
because
that's
how
it's
been
operating,
but
what
he
wants
to
do.
He
wants
to
do
like
a
mechanic
shot.
So
I
said:
well,
that's
totally
different
than
a
junkyard.
H
He
goes
yeah
well,
you
know
I
said,
but
you
know
there's
some
violations
out
there
on
this
property.
So,
in
order
to
get
all
this
confusion,
we
agree
with
staff
recommendation
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
kind
of
go
with
the
county
resolve
any
issues
that
are
there.
You
know
and
then
plan
it
hopefully
plan
it,
and
we
can.
H
A
A
E
A
F
A
I
C
Good
evening,
mr
chairman,
members
of
commission
jeff
with
kci
technologies
representing
the
applicant,
while
we
agree
with
the
majority
of
the
comments
we'd,
like
some
clarification
on
the
comment
with
respect
to
the
fire
department.
That
way
they
can
kind
of
maybe
give
us
a
little
bit
of
indication
as
to
why
it
would
require
an
additional
point
of
access
for
the
cul-de-sac.
C
That
would
be
the
first
one.
The
second
one
is:
we've
been
working
with
the
planning
department,
engineering
and
the
parks
department
regarding
the
dedication,
so
we
have
documentation
and
we'll
be
providing
further
documentation
on
the
dedication
that
was
already
previously
presented
by
our
client.
J
The
comments-
I
guess
first,
I
just
wanted
to
say
our
plans
examiner
for
this
is
captain
victor
visali
and
just
to
let
you
know
that
he's
available
at
any
time
you
want,
because
actually,
I
honestly
prefer
to
review
these
prior
to
here,
because
then
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
sit
down.
Show
you
sections
of
code
and
then
kind
of
brainstorm
and
see
what
we
can
do,
but
just
to
let
you
know
he
he
is
available.
J
J
What
it
is
is
that
the
two
points
you
have
are
too
close
together:
yeah
they're
they're
short,
I
think,
by
about
200-
and
I
think
I
have
about
230
feet-
they're
short,
to
meet
the
required
separation.
But
if
you'd
like
we
can
sit
down
with
captain
without
he
can
kind
of
measure
it
out,
for
you
show
you
where
you're
coming
out
short.
C
D
C
Distance
that
they're,
actually
it
is
a
one-half
distance
of
the
total
length
of
a
remaining
property,
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
that
we
are
only
planning
a
certain
amount
in
phase
one
and
the
remaining
property
is
phase
two.
So
if
we
were
to
add
the
additional
property
in
phase
one,
it
would
then
meet
the
requirement
that
they're
asking
for,
but
it's
I
think
it's
just
a
a
resolution
that
we
can
have
a
conversation
on
and
work
through,
very
good
anything
else.
No,
I
do
not
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
G
E
The
county
just
finished,
building
lomas
del
sur,
it's
running
it's
running
east
and
what
they've
done
is
they've
connected
to
wormser
further
down
so
there
there's
that
angled
piece,
that's
gonna!
That's
actually
going
to
be
given
back
to
the
developer
for
development
and
lawmas
is
going
to
be
the
new
way
to
get
east.
E
A
A
E
E
A
G
E
E
K
D
K
F
E
We're
working
on
that,
but
we
did
get
commitment
to
the
to
the
right-of-way
so
that
we
could
get
that
alignment.
We
also
talked
to
the
water
drainage
district
to
help
out
with
funding
to
to
help
with
culverts
that
are
needed
at
several
points
of
that
road.
So
they're,
they're,
interested
in
participating
to
rma,
like
I
said,
is
interested
in
participating,
so
we're
bringing
that
group
together.
So
we
can
get
that
north
south
parallel
to
cuatro
vientos
and
then.
A
A
K
F
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L
A
L
A
E
L
G
The
mines
road
in
case
you
don't
drive,
it
is
really
becoming
dysfunctional
day
by
day
the
traffic
lights
that
they
added
at
the
intersections
only
made
matters
worse
and
you
can
barely
travel
through
there
and
yet
some
people
are
hauling
through
them.
I
mean
it's,
it's
an
accident
waiting
to
be
happened,
I'm
sure
it
happens
every
day.
Oh
yeah
and
I
will
go
there,
but
this
is
a
critical
thing
for
the
city.
It
gets
worse.
L
Something
that
might
help
is
they've
been
upgrading
this
road,
the
endless
road,
had
a
bridge
structure
on
it.
Almost
all
the
way
out
there
255
that
was
under
underrated
and
they've,
improved
it
to
be
80,
000
pounds
so
before
that
loaded
loaded
trucks
couldn't
go
that
way,
so
it
didn't
have
a
lot
of
traffic
and
they've
widened
it
to
be
a
road
section
like
highway
83..
L
K
G
We
do
yeah.
So
when
somebody
builds
something
out
there
do
we
have
a
safe
zone.
Yes,
on
3338
you
allowed
a
road
yard,
trucking
yard,
to
be
built
without
acceleration
or
deceleration
lanes.
You've
got
a
two-lane
road
without
a
turn
lane.
If
one
of
them
stops
to
make
the
left
turn
into
the
yard,
whoever's
in
back
of
them
is
going
to
get
wiped.
A
Okay,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission
on
this
particular
item?
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
check
results?
We
have
a
motion,
the
second
all,
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi,
aye,
aye,
motion
carriers;
next
item,
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plot
of
killam
university
boulevard,
billboard
number
four,
the
intended
for
billboard
for
advertising.
I
A
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M
D
A
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I
A
M
M
A
And
how
do
you
guys
see
this
a
whole
area
for
same
thing?
We've
been
talking
everywhere:
traffic
and
traffic
congestion,
as
the
subdivisions
continue
to
well.
I
think
what
we
all
need
to
do
here
is
as
we're
trying
to
the
city's
growing.
That's
right.
I
mean
it's
going
fast,
but
we
need
to
do.
I
think,
some
more
planning
on
on
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
circulate
traffic.
I
mean
those
are
major
points.
I
mean
there.
M
Are
two
individuals
or
two
developers
right
now
that
are
kind
of
in
there?
It's
it's!
It's
us
and
then
somebody
to
the
south
we're
working
our
way
towards
dolly
richter,
which
you
have
you
have
okay,
there's
going
to
be
dolly
richter,
which
is
going
to
head
out
all
the
way
to
u.s
highway
83..
So
that's
going
to
be
the
next
major
road
that
gets
in
there
that
to
alleviate
once
this
starts
developing
to
its
fullest.
A
A
A
D
A
A
E
E
G
E
And
that's
very
consistent.
I
just
came
back
from
the
planning
association
conference
and
that
was
a
major,
a
major
problem
in
a
lot
of
areas.
So
we
are
dealing
with
the
same
issues
and
you're
right.
We
need
to
provide
the
affordable
housing,
that's
necessary,
closer
to
the
work
environment
or
you
know
the
wrong
mines
road
or
something
like
that.
To
get
some
of
that
traffic
to
not
have
to
cross
town,
you
know
which
creates
traffic
throughout
you've.
G
E
K
A
I
M
Those
seem
to
be
the
general
comments
that
come
in
when
it's
a
residential
subdivision.
This
is
commercial.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
wipe
them
out
yeah.
I
know
they're
not
here.
I
know
there's
somebody
not
present,
but
this
is
a.
This
is
a
commercial
subject
here.
Yeah,
that's
easy!
It
shouldn't
be
there.
A
Yes,
we
have
second,
second
and
second,
all
those
in
favor
shouldn't,
probably
say
no
hi
motion
carries
thank
you
next
time
in
new
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
preliminary
reflex,
preliminary
reconsideration
of
the
free
plan
of
rock
19
20
and
21
block
6,
inter-american
distribution
park,
phase,
4
and
20.09
unplanted
acres
into
lots,
19a
and
lots
21a
block
six
inner
american
distribution
part
base.
Four.
The
antennas
industrial
purpose
of
this
reconsideration
is
to
add
an
additional
acreage
and
a
12
foot
drainage.
I
A
B
G
A
N
Sir,
so
just
a
quick
little
back
history,
we
we
had
come
forward
already
with
the
zone
change
yeah.
Last
year,
then
we
came
back
and
added
did
a
second
zone
change
to
add
some
additional
land,
and
then
we
combined
those
and
came
back
and
and
did
the
re-plat,
and
it
was
actually
going
to
be
one
lot
and
the
re-plat
got
approved.
We
got
preliminary
flat
approval,
and
so
the
reason
for
bringing
this
back
was
my
client
wanted
to.
N
Okay,
so
what
you
see
so
19a
is
the
larger
lot
to
your
left.
Okay,
on
the
screen
and
block
21
a
is
the
lock
to
the
right
yeah.
My
client
currently
owns
1920
and
21.
He
owns
three
lots.
It's
actually
one
lot.
There's
an
existing
warehouse.
There
he's
got
a
buyer
for
the
warehouse
that
wants
some
of
the
additional
land
for
truck
parking.
I
think
everybody's
looking
for
truck
parking
right.
Okay,.
N
D
N
D
N
It's
that
one
yeah
continues
to
go
up
the
right
side,
the
east
side
of
21a
to
the
road.
Are
you
just
so?
What
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
21a,
of
course,
is,
is
incorporating
all
of
that
with
the
grading
plan
that
we've
got
set
up
and,
of
course,
continuing
that
water,
where
it
naturally
goes
all
the
way
down
to
the
south.
There's
okay,
existing
creek
thank.
A
All
right,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission
motion?
Second,
all
those
in
favor
signify,
let's
say
aye.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
next
item
out
of
10
a
consideration
of
the
following
final
flats
and
final
replats
item
10a.
It's
final
consideration
of
flat
lot:
one
block
11
alexander
commercial
subdivision,
phase;
15
the
intense
commercial.
D
E
All
right
motion
to
adjourn,
but
just
one
comment
before
we.
We
adjourn
just
to
answer
what
you
were
saying
about,
commissioner
dawalina,
and
talking
about
putting
some
residential
out
mines
road.
We
do
have
an
applicant
that
has
proposed
r1a
zone
change
and
that's
been
tabled
and
it's
been
tabled
and
currently
we're
trying
to
get
it
over
without
the
past.
But
right
now,
they're
going
through
some
through
some
troubles.
But
we
do
have
developers
trying
to
go
out
along
mines,
road
to
establish
some
1a
r1a
neighborhoods.