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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting 040623
B
A
Do
we
have
any
other
commission
members
call
in
to
be
asked
to
either
during
a
mess
or
be
later.
C
A
A
Motion
to
improve
the
minutes,
all
in
favor
aye
against
motion
carries.
Was
there
any
any
citizens
comments.
D
A
Sir
okay,
okay,
I'll
Now
open
up
the
public
hearing
and
start
off
with
the
item.
6A
review,
consideration
of
a
site
plan
for
a
planned
unit,
development,
PUD
overlay
review
and
consideration
of
a
site
plan
for
the
Sierra
Ranch
Townhomes
development,
located
east
of
San,
Ysidro,
Parkway
and
North
of
San
Diego
plan.
Your
development
overlay
zone
for
this
area,
established
by
the
ordinance
number.
E
E
Cross-Sections
apartment
floor
plans
and
the
item
for
consideration,
so
the
Planning
Development
ordinance
allows
and
gives
some
flexibility
to
the
developers
in
their
design
and
the
items
that
can
be
for
consideration
for
the
p
z
are
the
items
as
shown
which
can
be
colors
and
construction
materials
made
them
a
lot
high
and
setback
Dimensions,
which
they
are
asking
for
some
reductions.
There
fencing
screening
types
density,
so
they
are
asking
for
increased
density
parking
and
Street
sidewalk
configuration.
B
So
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
so
a
PUD
request,
starts
off
at
Council.
So
it's
an
overlay
onto
a
piece
of
property.
They'll
they
go
to
council,
they
request
a
PUD.
If
they
receive
it
the
overlay,
then
they
come
to
the
planning
department
and
they
start
the
process
to
negotiate
some
changes
that
they
want
to
make
and
and
the
reason
for
it
is,
the
Pud
was
designed
for
density.
So
this
allows
for
them
to
work
with.
Maybe
smaller
Lots
adjust
some
setbacks,
which
you
can't
do
in
the
regular
process.
So
they
would.
B
F
F
This
is
the
mechanism
to
provide
for,
in
essence,
townhome
projects
that
we
used
to
get
a
special
use
permit
approved
before
now.
There's
a
brand
new
process
to
go
through,
we've
already
come
and
and
gotten
the
site
plan
per
se,
approved
by
the
commission
and
by
city
council.
It
happened
close
to
about
a
year
ago,
and
so
the
process
now
requires
us
to
submit
our
full
set
of
plans
to
the
building
department,
and
the
building
department
gives
us
our
okay.
F
Before
we
come
back
to
you
all,
which
that's
at
the
point
where
we're
coming
back
to
now.
The
reason
I'm
saying
that
is
because
there
are
certain
comments,
and
mainly
you
know,
we
concur
with
all
the
comments,
but
traffic
comments
are:
are
the
ones
that
we
we
kind
of
disagree
with
at
this
point
right
now,
our
PUD
is
private
right,
so
our
variances
per
se
are
on
the
lot
size
setbacks.
F
The
reason
we're
providing
for
individual
Lots
is
so
that
the
financing
for
the
end
user
can
get
expanded
and
you
just
don't
go
conventional.
You
you
you're
able
to
apply
for
FHA
and
they'll,
give
you
those
loans
now,
because
you'll
have
a
set
lot.
You're
get
you're
getting
a
piece
of
land
with
your
with
your
town
home.
That
being
said,
our
streets
are
regular
with
streets
like
you
would
see
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
the
right-of-ways
as
as
well
so
on
the
traffic
comments
for
the
streets
are
not
aligned.
F
Everything
is,
is,
is
it's
really
acting
more
like
an
apartment,
complex
or
a
town
home
complex,
there's
going
to
be
gates
at
the
main
roads
and
then
once
you
get
into
the
complex,
you
just
go
into
your
individual
unit,
so
the
block
length
being
300
feet
again,
it's
a
private
development.
That's
the
whole
point
of
this
PUD
process.
F
Submitting
a
Tia
Tia
is
a
traffic
impact
analysis.
If
that
I
think
that
comment
should
have
been
made
a
year
ago
if
we
were
to
require
a
TIA
now,
what
does
the
Tia
require
you,
okay,
how
much
traffic
comes
out?
What
you
need
to
do
in
the
extremities
of
the
property
and
within
the
master
plan.
This
master
plan
has
been
approved
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
F
In
fact,
this
site
used
to
be
the
site
of
a
100
acre
mall
that
was
going
to
go
there
so
San
Isidro,
Parkway,
Springfield,
Avenue,
they're,
all
major
I,
don't
know
the
specific
minor
yeah
minor
arterials
that
have
two
lanes
going
in
each
Direction
and
a
center
turnling.
So
you
can't
get
a
bigger
Road
as
per
the
the
code
book,
so
whether
a
TIA
comes
in,
we
already
have
Max
road.
F
So
if
we
can
kind
of
we'd
like
to
request
that
the
traffic
comments
you
know
be
stricken
at
this
point
and
again,
we've
already
gone
through
building.
This
was
a
permit
process.
We
have
all
those
approvals.
If
not
we
wouldn't
be
here
right
now,
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
questions.
B
G
Those
are
just
a
waste
of
time,
your
time
or
time
and
the
people
that
develop
it
so
and
then
a
lot
of
these
things
going
back
to
the
same.
Why
are
we
doing
this?
So
just
to
look
at
the
friends
never
know
this
com.
The
friends
only
has
come
a
long
way,
I
think
just
a
little
more
look
at
repeating
stuff.
That
really
doesn't
need
to
be
here.
It's
just
a
waste
of
time
and
another
Harley
shouldn't
be
shouldn't,
be
there.
C
Yeah
I
do
have
a
question
for
his
staff.
Can
you
explain
like
how
normal
it
is
to
ask
for
a
TIA
at
this
point
in
this
in
the
process
and
for
this
type
of
project.
B
Well,
one
thing
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
ti
typically
is
done
by
TxDOT.
We
don't
necessarily
have
an
ordinance
that
requires
a
TIA.
You
know
so
as
much
as
it
would
give
some
good
information
for
for
the
the
traffic
department.
B
We
don't
have
an
ordinance
that
requires
it
at
this
time,
but
it
is
a
tool
to
be
used
for
big
Master
plans
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
so
I
could
see
where,
where
there
was,
you
know
a
request
for
it,
but
we
we
truly
don't
have
an
ordinance
to
ask
for
it.
C
And
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
get
in
for.
B
I
would
have
to
I
would
have
to
talk
to
traffic
and
call
them
or
find
out
what
the
reasoning
is.
But
to
me
it
seems
like
they
they
didn't
realize.
This
was
a
private,
a
private
development
I
mean
that's
what
I'm
thinking
and
that's
what
I
was
asking
to
say
did
they
did
they
know,
because
these
comments
seem
to
not
jive
with
a
private
development
I.
C
B
Well,
what
we
can
do
is
that
this
has
to
well.
Let
me
think
about
this.
B
They
are
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
preliminary,
so
we
could.
We
could
get
with
the
traffic
department
and
and
discuss
this.
So
we
can,
at
this
point
you're
okay
with
it
to
stay
on
here
and
then,
as.
F
F
This
master
plan
has
been
done
for
the
last
10
15
years
and
it
pretty
much
provides
where
you're
going
to
put
the
major
roads
where
you're
gonna,
so
in
this
Corridor
here,
antler
Crossing,
which
is
just
south,
doesn't
have
an
access
off
of
San
Ysidro,
there's,
probably
only
going
to
be
maybe
three
or
four
driveways
along
San
Ysidro
on
the
south
end,
it's
it's
almost
like
you're
you're
doing
the
study
way
after
these
two
major
roads.
A
traffic
study
would
tell
you
to
put
a
major
road.
We
already
have
a
major
road.
F
Now
you
can
put
deceleration
acceleration
links
but,
like
the
planning
director
says,
that's
on
the
text.m,
where
they
start
asking
for
that
type
of
parameter,
we're
not
in
textile
right
away,
we're
more
in
city
right
away,
and
these
meet
all
the
parameters
as
per
the
City
of
Laredo
code
book.
If
we
would
have
to
do
a
traffic
study
per
se,
we're
talking
another
three
four
month
delay
and
so
that
that
plus,
if
there
are
any
changes,
we
already
have
a
building
permit
approval.
F
G
I,
don't
have
I,
don't
have
a
problem
voting
on
removing
that
because
the
same
thing
we're
removing
now.
If,
for
whatever
reason
we
have
to
then
at
the
next
one,
you
could
actually
go
back,
but
it's
probably
not
going
to.
So
that's
where
we're
given
the
green
light.
So
if
everything's
good,
it
goes
quicker.
F
A
There's
no
other
comments
or
questions
from
from
commission.
What.
D
A
A
We're
now
moving
on
to
item
6B
review,
the
consideration,
review
and
consideration
of
a
site
plan
for
the
skg
Twin
Homes
development
located
south
of
San
Francisco,
Parkway
and
west
of
Springfield
Avenue
planned
unit
development,
PUD
overlay
zone
for
this
area,
established
by
ordinance
number
20220-046.
The
intent
is
residential,
twin
elms.
E
It's
Mr
chairman,
the
record.
The
applicant
is
skg
homes,
9
LLC,
the
engineering
record
Oscar
Castillo
PE
of
Bella
Consulting
LLC.
The
proposed
use
is
residential,
Twin
Homes,
the
Zoning
for
this
128
lot.
Development
is
R2,
PUD,
multi-family,
residential
district,
planned
human
development,
little
general
location.
H
Whole
team
representing
skg
and
just
wanted
to
we
concur
with
the
comments,
is
a
very
similar
case.
We
actually
went
on
the
same
meeting
a
year
ago
to
get
the
approval
of
the
puv
we've
been
through
building
permit.
We
had
obviously
permit
we
have
the
data
if
these
plans
have
been
reviewed
by
all
the
Departments
the,
and,
on
this
one
same
thing
we
would
I
would
like
to
ask
for
the
you
know
for
the
traffic
CIA
to
be
to
remove
at
this
point
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
A
I
They're,
okay
with
the
city,
and
we
kind
of
do
like
a
final
review
at
that
point
as
far
as
because
they're
pretty
I
guess
we
don't
see
puds
often,
but
now
we
are
right
right
so
so
to
help
I
guess
the
process
like
now
they've
come
they've
already
come
once
we're
looking
at
it
now
and
I,
don't
know
I'm,
assuming
once
they
bring
in
their
preliminary
plaque.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
a
very
good
question
because
we
were
we
were
discussing
this
and
when
it
goes
to
the
One-Stop
shop
there
it
we're
trying
to
do
it
to
where
it
only
goes
once
for
review
and
not
not
twice
for
review,
because
right
now,
it's
going
twice
but
the
first
time
it's
going.
What
what
we're
wanting
to
catch
is
on
the
design
will
it
work
will
will
the
design
work
when
it
comes
to
utilities
and
stuff,
like
that?
B
That's
all
we're
trying
to
get
because
they're
putting
in
smaller
Lots
they
might
change
setbacks
or
anything
does.
Will
it
will
it
work
with
what
they're
trying
to
do?
We
don't
want
a
a
delay
to
where
it's
going
to
stay
in
there
forever,
because
that
we
just
want
to
know
that
the
concept
would
work
right
and
then
we
can
we
can
move
on.
B
But
what
we're
finding
is
that
it's
become
where
they
take
it
for
preliminary
and
then
it's
it's
reviewed
like
a
preliminary
and
then
I'm
afraid
that
it's
going
to
go
around
the
second
time
and
they're
going
to
hit
it
hard
again.
You
know
so
we're
that's
not
what
we
wanted
with
the
first
step.
The
first
step
was
just
getting
with
utilities,
and
will
this
work
will
will
where
they
want
to
put
their
meters?
Will
that
work
basic
stuff?
B
But
we
had
a
meeting
with
engineering
to
discuss
this
so
that
we
can
kind
of
streamline
it
a
little
bit
more
because
in
essence,
what's
happening
is
they're
going
to
to
review
twice
right
and,
like
commissioner
Garcia
was
saying
you
know
that
you
you
check
it
once
you
give
all
these
hurdles,
then
they
fix
all
that
and
they
come
a
second
time
they're
given
a
bunch
of
new
ones,
and
it's
just
it
makes
it
difficult
for
them,
so
we're
trying
to
streamline
it
to
where
they
can
go
one
time
and
or
that,
first
time
they
go.
B
B
I
Other
comment
that
I
was
looking
at
was
the
Parkland
on
both
right.
As
far
as
Parkland
comment
and
I
know,
it
kind
of
mentions,
like
50,
of
what
the
the
park
would
have
the
cost
of
that
versus
you
know
actually
putting
in
what
what
they're
saying,
based
on
the
number
of
dwellings
right,
like
the
formula
of
that
so
I'm,
assuming
both
of
these
applicants
are
saying
we'll,
probably
end
up
doing
the
the
money
instead
of
the
actual
development
of
of
park
space
and
then,
if
they
are
right.
I
Divine
I
think
it's
called
divine
mercy
so
with
the
with
those
funds,
be
able
to
be
specifically
designated
for
for
that
part
since
that
part's
right
across
the
street.
And
can
we
put
that
as
a
comment
within
the
Pud
that
the
funds
that
are
that
are
that
if
they
were
going
to
be
giving
Park
funds
that
those
be
utilized
for
improvement?
Specifically
for
that
part,
so.
B
When
this,
when
this
ordinance
came
through,
they
required
that
there
be
park
space
in
the
QD
and
it
did
not
give
an
option
for
cash
and
because
we
do
have
an
ordinance
that
allows
for
cash
and
there's
a
distance
requirement.
So
if,
if
this
was
the
case,
yes,
Divine
Mercy
would
be
the
part.
That's
in
here.
You
would
think
because
they're.
I
Going
to
walk
across
the
street
and
utilize
that
part
that's
correct
and
if
they
don't
have
the
space
within
their
own
planned
unit
development,
especially
if
we're
adding
my
points
we're
adding
a
lot
of
density
to
this
area
right.
Unfortunately,
there
is
a
park
nearby
for
someone
for
these
individuals
to
utilize
right,
but
I
think
the
first
thing
would
try
to
find
a
common
area
for
everybody
to
utilize
right
within
its
own
development.
I
But
if
they're
not
then
use
those
improvements
for
the
park,
that's
nearest
them
right
and
and
oh
and
the
only
the
other
thing
is
I
was:
maybe
we
reconsider
or
look
at
or
make
a
recommendation
as
far
as
to
look
at
the
the
funding,
that's
that
is
being
looked
at.
I
know,
I,
think
that's
something
else
that
should
be
considered
too.
As
far
as
the
the
amount
I
think
it's
at
35
000,
or
something
like
that
per
acre
right,
the
north,
an
Acres,
not
thirty,
five
thousand
dollars.
B
That's
been
discussed,
that's
200,
000
calories
apart.
We
have
our
Parks
planner
here
today,
yeah.
It
is.
I
B
We're
right
now
the
way
the
ordinance
stands
is
they
have
to
have
a
part
in
their
PUD
right
I.
Would
we
were
talking
about
this
in
hopes
that
maybe
we
can
adjust
that
bring
it
back
to
create
that
option
that
if
Parks
deems
it
that
they
would
rather
have
the
cash
to
go
into
the
regional
part
that
that
option
is
available
because
it
works
both
ways.
It
gives
the
developer
to
put
a
little
bit
more.
B
You
know
more
units
and
then
they
don't
have
to
have
a
pocket
part
in
their
area
and
if
it,
if
it
ends
up
being
the
city's
pocket
part,
then
we
have
to
go
service
it
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
we
we're
probably
going
to
come
back
with
some
kind
of
auction
so
that
that
option
is
available
to
the
parts
department
so
that
they
can
make
that
determination.
B
But
I
do
know
that
we
are
sending
these
puds
over
to
parks
and
and
our
Parks
planner
talk
to
them
about
that
kind
of
design.
But
I
I
know
where
you're
going
with
that
and
I
think
you're
right.
We
need
to
bring
back
the
ordinance
and
adjust
it,
so
it
keeps
that
that
option
available
for
the
developer
right
agreed
right.
G
The
real
quick
question
is
there:
is
there
any
language
where,
if
you're
closer
to
a
these
bigger
parks
that
are
being
built
everywhere,
you
know
it
used
to
be
the
Hill
Park?
Now
you
have
these
massive
Parks
that
you
don't
have
to
require
people
that
are
building
subdivisions
to
have
a
park
within
there,
because
you're
walking
distance
from
the
bigger
part.
G
Because
we're
always
news,
you
know
what
the
smaller
parts
of
London
being
people
are,
are
going
and
doing
damage
there
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
little
things
that
you
have
to
take
care
of
and
pay
taxes
need
to
come
back
and
pay
in
all
this
where
you
have
the
bigger
park
or
you
don't
hear
that
much
going
on,
because
there's
so
many
people
at
those
parts
that
you
eliminate
that,
within
the
smaller
areas
that
are
being
developed.
J
Planner,
what
was
your
question.
B
K
J
J
Well,
this
this
is
a
very
interesting
neighborhood,
because
there's
been
some
feedback
between
the
neighbors
and
the
very
wide
road
that
is
Springfield
Road,
because
it's
five
Lanes,
so
we're
currently
making
a
way
for
people
to
cross.
But
that
is
a
concern.
So
if
they
want
to
build
a
pocket
park,
we
have
ample
room
for
them
to
have
an
HOA
Park.
They
want
to
have
any
two-way
park
because
you
know
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods
up
north
HOAs
are
really
common,
so
we
allow
for
that.
So
it's
up
to
them.
It's.
G
J
Just
it
just
depends
on
the
area,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
won't
take
a
mini
Park.
It's
just
that
we
don't
some
of
the
small
Parks,
the
HOA
Parks.
We
don't
accept
them
in
our
Park
system.
We
let
people
have
their
own
small
HOA
Parks
when
they
don't
fit
in
our
size
limit.
So
we
prefer
bigger
Parks
now,
because
those
small
parks
are
maintenance.
I
Specifically
this
part,
the
Divine
Mercy
part
I,
know
there's
a
new
development,
I
guess
on
this
other
side
of
what
is
it
on
the
other
side
of
Springfield,
closer
to
35
that
whole
new
subdivision
I
know
there
are
quite
a
few
folks
from
that
neighborhood
that
are
crossing
that
street
to
get
to
that
Park
and
it
seems
like
a
really
nice
park.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
been
more
improvements
to
it.
I
know,
there's
a
basketball
court
and
there's
football
fields
now
and
I
know
the
soccer
fields
being.
I
I
Quite
a
few
dwelling
units
now
condensed
and
there's
no
part
within
this
development
and
more
than
likely
if
I
live
there
and
I
want
to
get
some
fresh
air
walking.
My
dog
I'm
gonna
go
to
divine
mercy
and
take
a
stroke.
So
my
point
was:
if,
if
they,
if
they
don't
provide
the
space
that's
needed
in
this
park,
can
we
utilize
that
money
and
use
it
for
that
Park?
Since
that's
the
park,
that's
going
to
be
getting
the
impact
of
this
development?
Oh.
J
I
G
J
They
want
to
do
a
small
with
some
work
if
they
have
the
money
to
Divine
Mercy,
whatever
fits
for
them,
because
they're,
ultimately,
the
one
that
has
to
decide
with
their
money
if
they
want
to
do
the
fee
or
if
they
want
to
invest
in
their
own
site.
Okay,.
C
Just
want
to
add
a
comment
to
that
is
that
I
think
it
really
does
depend
on
the
exact
location
right,
Divine
Mercy
might
be
very
close,
but
to
cross
the
street
with
dogs
or
children
or
every
time
you
need
to
go
outside
I.
Think
it's
very
dangerous
and
you
know
something
like
Springfield
or
even
Sunny,
seasonal,
so
I
think
it's
something
to
it's
like
a
case-by-case
right.
B
Correct
and-
and
there
is
an
ordinance
to
answer
commissioner
Garcia's
question
when
it
comes
to
subdivisions
regular
subdivision
there
is
that
option
you
know
to
to
do
a
regional
to
do
it
and
the
and
the
engineers
know,
and
the
developers
know
they
go
to
parks
and
they
they
work
that
out.
This
is
a
PUD,
so
this
has.
This
is
a
little
bit
different
than
a
regular
subdivision
ordinance.
B
That's
why
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
consider
putting
putting
the
that
verbage
in
this
organ
so
that
they
have
that
option,
but
at
this
date
right
now
they
need
to
provide
a
plan.
B
G
C
The
remote
and
just
to
confirm,
Mr
navadro,
would
be
the
same
where
it
could
come
up
again
in
preliminary
once
we.
B
C
C
Yes,
motion
to
approve,
subject
to
the
comments
and
amending
to
remove
the
traffic
safety
comment.
Number
two
I.
A
Second,
that
okay,
all
in
favor
against
motion,
carries
now
moving
on
to
review
and
consideration.
The
following
master
plan
item
7A
review
of
the
revision
of
the
Salito
Lindo
master
plan,
the
attentive
residential
commercial
and
institutional.
The
purpose
of
this
revision
is
to
reconfigure
phases
and
realign
streets.
M
O
Miguel
Jimenez
and
Commissioners
Jimenez,
with
Halloween
engineering
you're
representing
our
client
I,
we
I
do
I.
We
went
over
the
comments
and
I
would
like
to
bring
up
some
comments
that
were
not
in
agreement
with
or
we
want
clarification.
Two
of
them
are
one
for
common
number
one
from
planet
and
which
is
pretty
much
the
same
as
common
number.
Eight
from
traffic
is
the
right
of
way
of
a
heel.
It
currently
is
a
90
foot
right
away
and
has
an
existing
United
foot
right
away
for
miles
going
north.
O
However,
if
I
show
the
master
plan
foreign,
the
comment
states
that,
in
the
in
the
thoroughfare
plan
the
future
third
floor
plan,
it
causes
Hilo
to
be
anywhere
from
100
to
120
foot
right
away
right,
but
we
do
have
an
issue
here,
we're
tied
up
in
this
area.
This
area
is
developed
to
to
enter
the
right
to
the
east.
We
have
a
ditch
that
needs
to
go
there
with
the
tension
and
actually
the
owner
right
of
shilito.
Lindo
has
sold
this
track
here.
O
O
You
know
to
develop
commercially,
so
we'd
like
to
I
guess
strike
that
comment
we'd
like
to
request
to
strike
the
comment
at
this
time
and
just
find
to
be
able
to
meet
with
traffic
and
planning
and
find
a
a
good
location
to
make
that
that
expansion
right
to
taper
that
road
off,
instead
of
just
because
right
now
at
Hilo,
comes
up
to
this
intersection
right
right
here,
right,
so
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
discuss
as
we
develop
that
area.
O
The
other
comment
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
also
traffic.
Comment
number
five
states
that
the
block
dance
at
300
feet
and
some
of
our
streets
are
close
too
close
to
each
other.
I
can
identify
those
I,
I
was
kind
of
wishing
someone
was
here,
so
we
can
discuss
it,
but
I
kind
of
identify
those
I
don't
see
any
that
are
closer
than
300
feet.
So
I
like
to
strike
that
comment
off
and
just
again
during
the
One-Stop
shop
process,
coordinate
with
them
and
then
the
the
Tia.
O
We
also
have
a
comment
for
the
Tia,
like
my
colleague
mentioned
earlier.
O
This
this
master
plan
is,
is
a
is
a
very,
is
a
very
old
master
plan
right
that
we're
just
bringing
in
us
because
we're
developing
the
the
last
Panic
faces
and
the
major
roads
to
the
principal
roads
are
in
Cielito,
Lindo,
St,
Luke
and
and
we're
making
connections
between
those
for
for
for
better
superdation
right,
like
like,
like
it
was
mentioned
before
at
Tia,
is
kind
of
pretty
much
require
or
or
recommend.
These
big
roads
are
already
in
place.
O
So
we
like
to
address
I,
don't
know
One-Stop
shop
too
and
just
coordinate
there,
but
I
liked
it
for
them
to
be
stricken
off.
At
this
point,
I.
B
From
from
the
point
where
you're
talking
about
going
south
right,
that's
all
month,
isn't
it
there's?
No
there's,
no
there's
nothing!
That's
in
the
way
of
of
widening
the
street!
Well,.
O
I
mean
just
just
based
on
the
master
plan
right
and
the
residential
areas,
and-
and
we
have
this
ditch-
this
ditch
is
pretty
much
set
right
this
this
one's
existing
and
this
track.
This
track
over
here
is
sold,
and
obviously
we
have
the
school
here.
So
though
I
mean
we
are
caught
there.
What
part
are
you
saying
that
it's
not
doing.
B
That
I
thought
you
said
that
Southwest
St
Luke
south
of
yeah,
south
of
St
Luke.
Yes,
that's
that
you
have
some
constraints,
but
there's
there's
nothing
out
there.
M
O
Exactly
but
at
that
point
it's
not
built
yet,
but
to
the
West,
the
residential
is
right
and
we
have
the
school
to
the
East
and
that
ditch
in
the
East.
So
it's
cut
between
those
two
tracks
that
are
existing
and
once
we
do,
that
I
mean
there's
I
mean
it.
It's
going
to
hurt
us
an
additional
40
feet
of
right-of-way
right,
which
probably
the
the
payment
width
is
going
to
stay
the
same.
It's
literally
just
right
away,
it
would
hurt,
it
would
hurt
the
developer.
It
hurt
the
development
of
those
of
that
property.
There.
O
And
we're
not
against
you
know,
making
that
taper
at
one
point
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
coordinate
that
as
we
get
closer
and
we
look
into
this
area
a
little
deeper,
maybe
because
I
know
like
like
this
area
is
going
to
be
a
little
tighter
than
down
here.
I
mean
there's
more
room
for
adjustment
down
here,
but
just
right
here
it
gets
I
mean
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
sit
down
and
coordinate
that
with
them
a
little
closer
well.
B
I'm
just
I'd
like
to
leave
the
comments
so
that
we
have
that
opportunity
to
keep
on,
because
if
they
take
it
off,
then
it
could
be
construed.
As
you
know,
oh
pnz
took
it
off,
so
I
don't
have
to
negotiate
I
because
it's
you
know
they
struck
the
item,
so
we
can
leave
it
on
there
just
so
that
we
can
sit
down
and
visit
and
see
what
you're
talking
about
as
far
as
obstacles
that
that
hurt
the
situation
because
I
I
don't
see
it.
So
we
have
to
talk
about
it
and
see
you.
O
O
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
happened
that
this
this
happens
often
with
Master
plans,
not
just
with
this
one,
and
when
you
you
know,
you
start
changing
around
the
alignments
of
certain
roadways
and
you
start
changing
languages.
You
start
losing
your
vesting
rides.
That's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
the
situation,
also
you're
stuck
in
here
or
because
of
you.
Making
these
modifications
and
bring
it
back
so
right
away
from
the
following
server
plan
requires
the
120
so.
I
I
South
that
this
is
pretty
much
the
the
the
area
left
to
develop,
yes,
yeah
and,
and
then
you
have
celito
Lindo,
connecting
currently
to
to
the
loop.
Now
we're
going
to
have
within
this
master
plan,
St
Luke
Boulevard,
going
to
the
loop
right,
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
here
or
somewhere.
I'd
heard
that
the
textile
wasn't
gonna.
Allow
that
connection
too
long,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
still
the
case
or
not
or.
O
We're
actually,
in
coordination,
we
remember
preliminary
contact
with
tech
stock,
we're
looking
at
the
possibility
of
of
trying
to
fit
a
a
way
to
where
we
go
or
north
right
and
be
able
to.
You
turn
back
and
be
able
to
get
on
the
loop
right
so
it'd
be
like
a
yeah
or
write
in
and
be
able
to
go
left
out,
but.
I
Right
that
was
my
only
question
because
the
last
time
I
think
we
had
seen
this
master
plan.
I
had
heard
the
discussion
wasn't
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
right
or
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
issues
with
the
creek
there
is
there
something
as
far
as
flood
plain
there
is.
Are
there
anything
in
there
between
I
guess
that
that
multi-family
I
guess
commercial
stuff
along
St
Luke
to
the
connection
to
the
loop.
B
I
O
All
that
yeah,
like
I,
said
yeah
we're
in
those
discussions
too
trying
to
see
if
that's
possible,
I
know
at
one
point
we
did
look
into
having
a
a
turnaround
underneath
the
bridge
as
well,
but
that
was
kind
of
rolled
out.
We
weren't
able
to
you
know
try
to
you
know
to
accomplish
that,
but
we
are
looking
into
having
you
know
that
road
be
able
to
come
back
up
and
again
trying
to
make
that.
O
Connection,
it's
it's
not
that
far
out
right
now
and
another
reason
why
we're
submitting
the
revisions,
because
there's
interest
in
this
area
right
this
property
right
here
so
shortly
after
this
comes
in
you
know,
this
part
would
be
next
right.
I
say
that
I
mean
but
I
mean
just
it.
It
can
go
either
way
right,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
it
too
far
from
now,
just
just.
I
O
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
if
there
are
no
other
questions
from
commission,
what
other
wishes
to
the
commission.
G
In
the
any
action
on
this
item
by
the
commission,
no
closing
and
recommendations.
M
K
P
This
master
plan
is
and
for
the
record
we
do
support
a
TIA
on
this
one,
because
this
is
a
fine
example
why
you
would
want
a
TIA
in
this
application.
We
have
1400
Acres
new
development.
This
is
the
first
time
we
come
before
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
It
does
a
butt
to
a
highway
right
away,
the
state
of
Texas.
This
is
a
fine
example
why
a
TIA
would
be
needed,
and
so
we're
already
working
and
scheduling
meetings
with
TxDOT
on
this
we've
reviewed
the
combats,
and
basically
what
we're
doing
here
is.
P
This
is
a
long-range
master
plan
of
of
a
multi-phase
project
that
can
sustain
development,
maybe
over
the
next
50
years.
What's
going
to
drive,
it,
though,
is
going
to
be
the
tech
stock
right
away
that
we're
showing
on
the
master
plan.
This
textile
right
away-
that's
shown
currently,
is
one
of
the
alternative
routes
that
TxDOT
has
studied
but
is
not
currently
designing,
as
we
speak,
they're
currently
in
schematic
design
only
from
us-83
to
manganaheim
Road,
however
Bridge
number
five
takes
off
like
we
all
think
it
might.
It'll
then
promote
the
momentum
to
move
this.
P
This
design
schematic
further
Beyond
to
the
north,
and
so
what
we're
doing
here
is
we're
just
providing
this
option
for
TxDOT,
because
this
is
this
is
on
their
radar
and
so
we'll
be
continually
having
meetings
with
them
and
that's.
For
that
reason.
P
We
developed
this
master
plan
in
phases
without
a
detailed
lot
layout,
because
we
know
that
as
Tech
stock
moves
forward,
our
lot
layout
is
going
to
change,
and
so
in
discussions
with
the
planning
department
on
comment,
number
six
under
planning
you
know
and
when
you
develop
Master
plans,
you're
required
to
do
a
lot
layout
or
something
like
this
at
1400
Acres
you're
talking
about
something
to
the
tune
of
about
4,
400,
single-family,
Lots
and
so
to
to
develop
a
lot
layout
of
that
magnitude.
P
P
We
did
meet
with
the
flying.
Department
item
number
six.
We
did
a
come
to
some
agreement.
We've
already
submitted
a
correspondence
letter
to
that
effect
to
support
that
on
item
comment.
Number
eight
for
planning
we're
asking
to
remove
that
comment,
because
we
don't
it's
not
necessary
at
this
point
to
do
a
zone
change
the
current
zone
for
phase
one
that
will
be
presented
here
is
M1
which
allows
a
commercial
development
under
the
code
as
the
rest
of
the
property.
That's
that's
shown
to
you
on.
P
The
master
plan
still
has
to
go
through
annexation
at
that
time
was
when
we
will
develop
Zoning
for
the
annexations
and
go
through
the
city
process
and
we'll
be
that
we'll
be
developing
that
as
we
develop
into
phase
two
and
so
so
right
now,
A
zone
change
is
really
not
required
at
this
moment,
for
the
current
master
plan
is
presented
to
you,
but
it
will
be
in
the
future
as
we
develop
this.
P
This
master
plan
further
in
more
detail,
Beyond
phase
one
when
it
comes
to
other
comments
on
the
on
the
master
plan,
we
agree
that
we
did.
We
did
speak
with
the
traffic
director.
There
are
several
comments
on
this
on
his
on
his
list.
There's
some
redundancy
in
there
on
comments
number
three
and
four,
but
instead
of
trying
to
request
the
removal
of
that,
we
did
agree
that
as
we're
as
we're
moving
forward
in
the
master
plan
on
this
project
and
the
development
over
time
that
we
would
be
we
would.
P
We
would
work
to
derive
and
develop
a
solution
for
these
items,
because
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
right
now.
What
we're
asking
tonight
is
is
we're
presenting
this
master
plan
for
your
consideration
and
so
we're
not
we're
not
asking
for
any
removal
of
these
comments
on
the
traffic,
because
we
know
we're
going
to
work
through
them,
and
this
is
where
the
Tia,
for
example,
will
address
those
comments.
P
A
TIA
in
this
regard
would
be
a
very
valuable
tool,
not
just
for
TxDOT
to
permit
our
our
Road
Connections,
but
also
for
the
city
and
us
to
make
better
plan
decisions
going
forward.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
request
the
removal
of
planning
comment,
number
eight
and
with
the
clarification
of
timing,
comment,
number
six
and
I'm
open
for
any
questions.
You
might
have.
I
Oh,
thank
you
so
so
the
communication
does
mention.
The
M1
is:
is
that
the
and
I'm
sorry
test
question
the
the
M1
would
be
within
the
phase
one
of
this
master
plan?
Yes,
sir,
and
currently
that
would
be
the
only
thing
that
would
be
considered
at
this
point.
I
Any
future
development
would
start
off
and
that's
correct
and
then
because
the
current
master
plan
or
the
proposed
master
plan
really
doesn't
show
any
other
manufacturing
use
as
far
as
what's
identified
within
it
right,
Within
These
phases
as
far
as
colors,
because
we
have
single
family
commercial
unless
the
commercial
area
would
kind
of
be.
If
you
were
to
add
additional
m1s
in
the
future,
it
could
morph.
P
Into
that,
based
on
what
the
tech
stock
is
going
to
do
with
the
outer
loop,
but
right
now,
it's
too
early
to
say
that
so
currently
we're
identifying
that
as
a
commercial
Zone,
but
but
in
speaking
with
the
initial
planning
for
this
development
with
the
developer,
it's
not
their
goal
currently
to
go.
Manufacturing.
I
Right
it
you're
looking
a
little
bit
more
into
multi-family
single-family.
Yes,
sir
commercial
use
for
for
the
future.
Yes,
sir,
and
then
the
any
any
park
space
within
this
or
those
would
be
I
guess
the
screen.
P
Spaces
yeah,
basically,
in
our
master
plan.
What
we
have
is
do
we
have
different
green
belts
that
we're
establishing
not
just
floodplain
but
other
areas
that
can
be
complemented
based
on
the
different
single-family
zones
that
we
have.
So
we
currently
under
the
current
master
plan,
have
about
92
Acres
of
Greenbelt
proposed,
and
if
we
do-
and
we
did,
some
I
did
some
math
while
I
was
waiting
to
speak
and
based
on
4
400
Lots
in
a
thousand
Apartments.
P
So
we
would
need
about
55
Acres
apart,
so
we
currently
are
exceeding
that
in
our
initial
matching
plan,
submittal
and
and
and
and
what
drives
this
park.
Also,
the
development
is
the
natural
topography.
The
land
is
beautiful,
it
has
so
much
potential
and
we
want
to
capitalize
on
the
topography
itself
and
take
advantage
of
all
the
the
the
tanks
that
that
the
developer
has
developed
over
time
to
feed
the
cows,
and
we
want
to
turn
those
into
amenities.
P
C
C
B
There's
always
when
you're
talking
about
utilities
and
annexation,
we
work
closely
with
the
utilities
department,
because
this
is
stretching
out
there
that's
this
is
this
is
getting
further
out
and
that's
always
an
issue,
and
that
issue
is
engineers
get
with
the
utilities
department
and
they
kind
of
work
out
those
concerns.
There
are
some
concerns,
bringing
a
line
out
that
doesn't
Loop,
because
then
you
have
flood
to
you
have
to
flush
it.
B
It
might
get
stagnant,
I
guess,
you'd,
say,
and
so
utilities
works
with
the
engineers
to
try
to
Loop
the
the
water
lines.
B
So
those
are
issues
that
do
come
up,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
think
he's
Master
planning
I
mean.
Excuse
me
annexing
anything
at
this
time,
but
they
will
be
coming
in
to
talk
to
to
the
city
to
see
if
potentially
it
can
be
annexed.
Now
they
have
to
be
connected
to
the
city
limits
but
which
they
are
so
they
can
come
in,
but
I
think
they're,
just
gonna
yeah.
P
We
can
I
can
answer
that
if
I
may
so,
this
property
was
also
part
of
the
oversizing
portion
of
the
colonial
project
that
the
city
took
on
from
1999
to
2004..
P
There's
a
16
inch
water
line
that
was
designed
that
installed
by
the
city
along
the
north
side
of
the
highway
right
away.
This
particular
property
purchased
lues
and
entered
into
a
25-year
agreement
with
the
City
of
Laredo.
That
agreement
expires
in
2028,
and
so
the
first
phase
is
more
than
sufficient
for
us
to
have
adequate
lues.
We
have
about
about
96
lues.
P
The
first
phase
is
only
going
to
take
up,
not
even
one
third
of
that,
so
we'll
have
some
additional
Luis
to
be
able
to
at
least
go
into
phase
two.
However,
the
master
plan,
you
also
see
that
there's
an
elevated
storage
tank
site
that
we're
already
kind
of
pre-thinking
and
pre-programming
based
on
on
Contours
right.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
really
be
an
engineer
to
know
that,
but
we
want
to
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
we
understand
that
there's
a
big
demand
going
forward
for
the
future.
P
The
City
of
Laredo
has
a
master
plan
currently
on
file
on
their
website
and
what
they're,
showing
on
the
on
the
water
extension
right
now
is
they're,
showing
a
12
inch
water
line
extension
from
basically
the
landfill
to
to
this
low
to
this
area.
Obviously,
with
a
project
of
this
magnitude
that
12
inch
line
will
have
to
be
up
upgraded,
this
is
how
we
start
planning
together,
not
just
as
a
development
as
a
developer
but
with
the
city.
At
the
same
time,
we
also
try
to
encourage
other
landowners
along
that
alignment
to
join
forces.
P
So
that
way
everybody
wins,
and
so
that's,
basically
what
we're
doing,
but
for
phase
one.
We
plan
to
tie
into
that
16
inch
water
line
by
having
to
board
on
the
highway
they'll
be
tying
into
that.
So
the
maximum
pipe
that
we
can
install
is
a
16
inch
diameter,
that's
the
max!
We
can
go
so
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
and
and
and
then
we
also
have
to
tie
in
sewer
and
there's
sewer
in
the
area
to
the
north.
There's
a
lip
station
and
a
gravity
sewer
to
the
North
in
a
planted
area.
P
Q
P
I
B
Mr
chairman,
as
far
as
comment
number
eight,
the
planning
we're
okay
with
that
one
number
six
I
do
understand
what
he's
talking
about
we're
gonna
have
to
get
with
utilities,
because
I
think
between
utilities,
the
engineer
and
ourselves
we
could.
We
can
come
up
with
the
the
math
that's
needed
to
to
talk
about
the
impact
that
this
this
master
plan
would
have
on
the
system.
B
P
P
C
Accessor
plan
is
coming
up
now
before
the
annexation
happens,.
S
B
They're
not
sure
yet
and
I
might
be
speaking
for
the
landowner,
but
with
all
the
talk
about
The
Bridge
coming
in
and
possibly
running
running
through
their
property.
The
first
step
is
to
hire
an
engineer
and
come
up
with
a
master
plan
and
and
apply
the
roadways
just
to
kind
of
get
a
an
idea
of
what
they
can
do
with
their
land.
That's
what
they're
doing
right
now
and
there's
a
cost
to
that,
but,
like
you
said
it
could
tweak,
it
could
change
depending
on
what
happens.
Maybe
the
bridge
doesn't
happen.
B
Maybe
the
road
alignment
is
going
to
change.
Maybe
the
alignment
goes
out
further
out.
Now
it's
not
going
to
go
through
their
property
they're
going
to
have
to
cheat,
but
but
they
put
it
there
so
so
that
the
discussion
can
be
had
so
that
the
engineer
and
the
developers
have
something
to
discuss
with
TxDOT
with
the
city
help
me
out
here.
If
you
want
yeah,
but
and
so
then
beyond
that
and
beyond
that,
once
you
get
into
annexation,
you
know
you're
you're,
getting
to
the
point
where
you're
starting
to
develop
right,
but.
B
You
got
to
come
up
with
a
master
plan
first
and
and
and
develop
the
idea
of
what
you
want
to
do
because,
like
we
talk
about
M1,
maybe
M1,
maybe
residential-
they
don't
know
yet,
but
they're
they're
interested
in
getting
started.
So
they
they
start
off
with
a
master
plan.
That's
where
it
all
begins
and
then
later
on,
when
they're
a
little
bit
more
sure
of,
what's
going
to
happen,
then
they'll
Annex
and
then
they'll
start
bringing
in
phases
and
they'll
start
developing.
But
the
first
step
is
to
just
look
at
the
land.
B
P
Actually
turn
out
to
the
answer:
if
I
may
I
wasn't
right,
it
was
right.
It
was
right,
but
but
my
answer
is
going
to
be
black
and
white.
We're
planning
phase
one
this
one
yeah
and
phase
one's
in
the
city.
C
P
G
P
B
P
Year,
I'm
happy
within
the
frontage.
Yes,
because
here's
the
what's
happening
is
Tech
stock,
as
is
currently
redesigning
and
widening
highway,
three
to
nine,
okay,
yeah,
so
they're
on
Final
design,
and
so
this
is
what's
driving
this
phase
one.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
not.
P
We
want
to
work
with
text
Dot,
while
they're
constructing
we
want
to
construct
our
phase
one,
and
we
want
to
have
our
main
access
point
at
the
same
time
install
all
our
utilities
at
the
same
time,
so
that
way,
we're
not
tearing
up
all
their
work
later.
That's
what's
driving
this
plot
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
Just
without
number,
eight
and
number
six
and
recommend
the
rest
second.
T
Thank
you
good
morning,
chairman
members
of
commission
and
staff,
Alfredo
Martinez
with
crane
engineering
on
behalf
of
the
developer,
so
as
discussed
during
the
master
plan
discussion,
we're
in.
We
concur
with
most
of
the
comments,
but
we
would
like
to
ask
for
your
approval
with
the
removal
of
comment
number
one
under
planning
which
discusses
at
zone
change
that
isn't
required,
and
in
addition
to
that
comment,
what
we
would
like
to
be
removed
is
comment
number
one.
T
The
departure
and
Leisure,
which
we've
already
discussed
this
with
planning
and
with
the
parks
department
via
email,
and
they
were
okay
with
removing
that
from
this
phase
of
the
development.
A
M
K
P
O
O
Not
sure
I
mean
I,
also
I
I
mean
that
was
just
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
one
of
the
previous
owners
or
Partners
when
this
track
was
being
bought.
We
are
gonna
include
that
name
as
part
of
the
master
plan.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
comments
on
the
master
plan
so
yeah
it
was
just
a
name
that
was
chosen
way
before
my
time
too.
It.
S
M
O
So
when
we,
when
we
submit
the
revisions
for
the
master
plan,
we
are
gonna,
be
consistent
with
the
name
and
we're
gonna
leave
the
the
name
card
on
it.
So
then
the
rest
of
the
subdivisions
will
have
that
consistency.
Thank
you.
A
A
N
A
All
in
favor
aye
against
motion
carries
now
moving
on
to
item
8D
preliminary
consideration
of
the
reclat
of
lot,
one
block,
one
second
retail
flat
into
Lots
1A,
1B,
1C
1D,
and
one
e
block
one
San
Ysidro
northeast
corner
retail
plan.
The
Nintendo
is
commercial.
The
purpose
of
this
repetitive
add
additional
acreage
and
reconfigure.
One
lot
into
five
lines.
M
Q
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
my
name
is
I
work
for
slain
engineering
and
I'm
here
representing
my
client,
and
we
concur
with
our
comments
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
thank.
U
A
M
E
E
A
R
A
M
R
Commissioner,
one
more
time,
Frank
Ramos
from
us
engineering,
read
through
all
the
comments,
and
we
agree
with
concur
with
all
the
other
comments
on
there.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions
for
you
to
answer.
E
So
so
this
particular
subdivision
is
only
25
acres
and
this
flat
they're
going
to
have
to
get
a
pool
from
the
city
as
well
as
from
the
county,
where
the
differences
are.
Is
that
the
setbacks
that
the
county
has
are
10
10
on
the
front
five
on
each
side
and
five
in
the
rear?
Because
there
is
no
zoning,
our
setbacks
don't
apply
in
that
particular
area.
Upon
this
time
of
the
the
area
would
be
annexed,
then
the
more
stringent
which
would
be
ours
would
apply.
Okay,.
B
For
the
record,
we
lost
two
Commissioners
that
so
we
lost
Quorum,
so
we're
waiting
for
them
to
come
back
and
I'm
saying
this,
because
we
at
our
office
Rosie
reviews
this
and
she's
going
to
say.
What's
going
on.
A
G
Motion
was
to
only
with
emotional,
too
close
and
introduce,
as
it
is.
Okay
I
have
a
motion.
A
I'll
suck
at
that,
okay,
all
in
favor
against
motion,
carries
item
8h
preliminary
consideration,
the
plat
of
the
coves
at
Winfield
phase
7c
and
the
granting
of
the
variances
to
reduce
the
distance
between
the
street,
draw
of
center
lines
from
300
linear
feet
to
131.22
linear
feet
and
to
increase
the
500
foot
threshold
for
a
dead
end
street
from
the
five
from
500
feet
to
735
Point
33
feet
for
the
proposed
Street
Excellence
way
and
from
500
feet
to
868.74
74
feet
for
the
proposed
Street
dignity.
Circle.
The
tent
is
residential.
M
I
guess
it's
Sherman
applicant
is
KLM
development,
engineers
and
security
engineering.
The
people
is
used
is
residential
and
the
Zoning
for
the
66
lot.
Development
is
R1
location
view.
M
L
Thank
you
good
evening.
It's
a
terrible
commission
step,
so
we
concur
with
all
comets
issue.
However,
we
do
have
we
submitted
two
variances
for
comments
for
planning
on
a
common
number
one
and
comment
number
two,
those
those.
L
Requested
and
after
being
having
conversations
and
back
and
forth
meetings
with
with
planning,
we
decided
to
request
the
variance
and
for
for
the
the
dead
end
streets
and
as
well
as
the
street
talks.
L
C
L
C
I
would
just
like
more
information
on
on
to
justify
the
variances.
Why
you're
looking
to
reduce
especially
the
the
street
job
center
lines,.
S
For
director
Hugo
sector
with
the
keyland
development
and
skeet
engineering,
this
goes
with
the
presentation
made
to
a
meeting
ago
that
Dr
Roland
Ortiz
was
here.
He
explained
that
we're
trying
to
use
a
different
concept
of
development,
a
subdivision
which
is
the
coving
system,
and
this
goes
in
hand
with
with
those
things.
I
know
us
for
the
for
the
length
of
the
cul-de-sacs.
These
These
cul-de-sacs
are
per
se,
not
dead,
end
cul-de-sacs,
because
we
don't.
S
We
will
provide
continuity
at
the
end
of
them,
because
we
have
pedestrian
walkways
that
will
connect
with
existing
streets
that,
in
case
of
an
emergency,
the
vehicles
will
be
able
to
access
these
areas
if
there,
if
something
happens
at
the
beginning
of
these
cul-de-sacs,
and
also
at
these
cul-de-sacs,
are
not
your
typical
cul-de-sacs,
where
you
have
just
payment
in
the
middle
of
it.
We
provide
islands
that
some
are
as
big
that
can
have.
S
You
know
some
sort
of
detention
or
or
green
space,
and
we
provide
one-way
turn
around,
so
the
continuity
is
there
and
and
the
the
the
minimum
diameter
for
those
colors
acts
will
be
met
and
that's
one
of
the
comments
from
traffic.
So
we
we
wouldn't
have
any
issue
with
that,
and
also
by
providing
these
this
continuity,
even
if
people
park
there,
the
emergency
vehicles
will
have
enough
room
to
maneuver.
V
And
I
guess:
that's
the
only
thing.
We're
kind
of
looking
for
clarification
is
this
gonna
be?
Is
it
going
to
be
raised?
Is
it
going
to
be
like
a
rolling
curve
that
we
can
go
over
and
I
guess
the
concern
that
we
have?
If
you
can
kind
of
see
it,
you
have
20
feet
here.
So
if
you
have
any
vehicle
parked
there
from
this,
these
points
forward
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
access
now.
I
know
he
mentioned
they
have
the
continuity.
V
But
if
you
have
a
vehicle
here
with
20
feet,
an
ambulance
or
a
fire
engine
won't
be
able
to
get
through
there.
Now
the
minimum
size
of
these
cul-de-sacs,
the
fire
code
requires
96,
the
I
think
it's
the
subdivision.
The
ordinance
I
think
that
requires
a
hundred.
But
against
our
concern,
was
this
20
feet.
I.
S
Mean
we
can
go
up,
you
know
we
can
increase
those
to
24..
This
is
just
for
the
presentation
and
those
things
can
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
One-Stop
shop
and.
V
Then
the
other
thing,
even
if
we
do
go
to
the
24,
you
would
still
have
to
show
us
that
you
have
at
least
a
28
foot
turn
in
radius,
okay
and
then
I
think
we
would
probably
even
have
to
fire
lane
the
inside
this.
V
S
And
these
this
concept
has
been
used
before
and
it's
already
in
place
and
you
I'll
invite
you
to
go
Google
Tres
Lagos
in
McAllen
and
you're
gonna
see
these.
If
you
want
to,
we
can
show
you
some
of
the
pictures
that
we
have
for
the
presentation,
so
you
can
be
able
to
to
see
what
we're
talking
about
and
they're
already
in
place
and
other
places
of
the
US
Richard
Harrison
Studio
has
been
doing
this
for
quite
an
amount
of
time.
A
S
A
I
can
definitely
see
Chief
domain
because
it's
concerned
because
I
mean
we
have
people
parking
the
sidewalk
as
it
is
already
and
then,
if
they
do
park
on
the
sidewalk,
which
most
people
do.
V
Let's
say
the
last
couple
of
homes
on
there:
it's
very
unlikely
that
something's
going
to
happen,
but
let's
say
something
does
happen.
You
do
have
a
vehicle
park,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
as
close
as
you
need
to,
and
that
that's
why
the
code
asks
for
that
access.
Yeah
I
mean
by
all
means
we're
available
to
you
want
to
sit
down
and
talk.
Tourney
radius,
we
can
talk
with
I
mean
we're
we're
at
your
disposal.
V
S
Yes,
no,
no,
no,
we'll
meet
we'll
meet
the
requirements.
It
was
just
an
exhibit,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
whatever
it's
needed
for
the
emergency
vehicles
to
be
able
to
maneuver
will
provide
people
that
will
provide
the
the
dimensions
that
are
necessary.
S
G
Motion
to
approve
subject
to
the
comics
okay,
you
are
not
we're
not
going
to
consider
the
the
removing
of
what
we're
we're
working
we
meet
with.
S
C
A
C
Yes,
so
if
we
approve
the
variances,
what
which
items
need
to
go
Planning
number
one
one
answer
one
and
two.
C
U
G
A
All
in
favor,
aye
aye
against
motion
carries
now
moving
on
to
reconsideration
the
following
preliminary
plants
and
preliminary
replets
item
999a
preliminary
reconsideration
of
the
plot
of
lot,
one
block
one,
the
covet
Winfield
commercial
unit,
one
the
attensis
commercial.
The
purpose
of
this
reconsideration
is
to
reduce
total
acreage.
S
You
good
evening
for
the
record
development
engineering.
We
don't
have
any
issues
with
account.
A
U
Yes,
sir,
for
the
app
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
serito.
Lindo,
Engineers,
Hollow
engineering
and
serving
proposed
use
is
commercial
they're
Zoning
for
this
one,
the
Venom
is
r1a.
However,
it's
currently
being
is
going
through
the
rezoning
process
for
Monroe
and
a
to
B3
location
view
aerial
view
street
view.
U
The
proposed
reconsideration
of
the
plot
staff
comments
planning
proposed
motion.
Thank
you.
N
A
Secular
motion
with
a
second
all
in
favor
aye
against
motion,
carries
we're
now
moving
on
to
consideration
the
following
final
thoughts
and
final
replays.
If
there's
no
objection
from
staff
or
from
the
commission
can
I
have
a
motion
to
hear
items
10
a
through
10
I,
together
under
a
motion
to
read
items
10A
through
Tema.
Second,
at
once.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
All
in
favor
against
motion
carries
can
I
have
a
motion
now
to
fraction
for
items
10A
through
10i
motion
to
approved
the
motion.
U
Into
record,
of
course,
Mr
chairman
for
the
record
10
a
final
consideration
of
the
replay
of
lot
14
block
six
Nuevo
subdivision
into
lots
of
14a
and
14b
block
6.
While
another
subdivision,
the
intent
is
residential,
vital
consideration
of
us,
a
civil
law,
a
civil
Ranch
plant
into
his
residential
final
consideration
of
the
Planet
of
the
coast
at
Winfield
phase
4A,
the
antenna
is
residential.
Final
consideration:
replied
of
the
coves
at
Winfield
phase
5A,
the
antenna
is
residential
final
consideration
of
Flight
of
the
coves
at
Windfield
phase
6A.
U
The
intend
is
residential.
Final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
the
coves
at
Winfield
face
6B
the
intense
residential
final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
the
coves
at
Windfield
phase
7A,
the
antenna's
residential
final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
the
coves
at
Windfield
phase,
7B
Nintendo's
residential
final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
the
coves
at
Winfield
phase
10A
and
since
the
intent
is
residential.
A
A
Motion
of
action
on
that
motion
to
approve
motion.
Second,
all
in
favor
all
right
against
motion
carries
any
directors
comments
before
we
adjourn.
B
Mr
chairman,
just
just
a
note
that
you
were
in
attendance,
but
we
we
attended
the
the
national
planning
conference,
I
thought
we
took
Rafa
withouti,
who
is
aicp
certified,
who
had
to
get
his
credits,
but
it
was
very
organized
very
well
done.
I!
Think
you
know
you
would
agree
that
it
was
well
done.
They
talked
to.
There
was
a
lot
to
talk
about
density,
creating
density,
I,
think
we
show
that
some
of
the
practices
we're
doing
we're
creating
some
density
as
you
could.
B
You
could
see
with
the
puds,
so
there
was
a
there
was
a
good
conversation,
a
lot
of
areas
like
that
and
so
I'm
happy
to
say
that
that
you
know
I
think
we're
we're
following
some
of
the
the
national
items
that
are
of
concern,
and
so
that's
it
just
that
we
attended
that.
Thank
you.