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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting
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If,
if
you
allow
me
to
spend
a
few
minutes,
because
this
also
impacts
the
next
agenda
item,
okay,
so
basically,
what
we're
doing
here
is
the
RMA,
the
city
of
Laredo,
the
Webb
County
drainage,
district
and
techstop,
have
partnered
up
to
finance
and
construct
an
arterial
road
from
Concord
Hill
to
Papa,
vientos
and
so
in
developing
this.
E
And
this
all
began
because
text
dog
was
experiencing
some
level
of
service
problems
on
highway
three
to
nine,
and
they
were
looking
for
alternative
routes
to
try
to
reduce
that
congestion
on
new
tonight.
This
map
illustrates
the
arterial
type
roads
of
local
collector
city
for
driveway
and
greater
in
this
part
of
the
city.
The
solid
lines
mean
that
the
roads
are
already
built
and
the
and
the
dotted
lines
represent
what
the
future
transportation
plan
of
the
city
calls
for,
along
with
the
master
plans
that
are
already
on
file.
E
So
this
project
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
this
portion.
That's
clouded
in
black
is
to
connect
Concord
Hills
Boulevard,
which
is
an
80
foot,
ride
away
major
collector
with
this
Avenue,
which
is
a
100
foot
right
away,
arterial,
and
so
what
the
plan
here
is
to
be
able
to
provide
a
secondary
form
of
access
for
this
area
in
the
Concord
area
and
allow
them
to
and
to
access
to
cutting-edge,
was
directly.
It
will
also
provide
first
responders
with
an
alternate
access
point
for
this
area
which,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
these
plat
you've.
E
Seen
around
recently,
there's
been
a
lot
of
development
in
this
part
of
the
city,
but
ultimately
the
goal
is
to
continue
this
plan
and
continue
these
arterial
roads
and
ultimately
tie
into
what's
known
as
eg
Ranch
Road,
which
is
the
road
directly
across
in
the
land.
So
that's
already
a
built
out
major
collector
that
provides
access
to
an
elementary
school,
a
middle
school
and
a
bus
transportation
facility.
These
are
things
at
the
RMA
in
the
city
are
currently
working
on
in
planning
and
this
and
tonight
what
we're
doing
is
we're
providing
the
right
away.
E
Dedication
portion
within
the
log
of
the
via
de
velopment
for
this
project
to
occur.
So
the
cross
section
that
we're
proposing
comes
right
out
of
the
city
of
Laredo
Viva
comprehensive
plan
for
an
arterial
session,
it'll
be
a
four-lane
road
with
a
median
or
left
turn
lane.
Six
foot
bike
lanes
on
both
sides:
six
foot
sidewalks
on
both
sides,
landscaped
areas,
irrigated
etc,
Street,
the
streets
on
street
lights,
a
typical
standard,
cinema,
Raynald
and
development
code
type
project.
E
E
Dedication
up
to
this
point
and
that
your
next
item
will
be
from
here
to
cuatro
Vientos,
which
how
in
engineering
is
serving
is
the
engineer
of
record
on
that,
so
we're
working
together,
multiple
landowners,
public
entities,
engineers
to
to
work
on
developing
this
arterial
road-
and
this
is
what
we're
here
for
tonight-
to
receive
preliminary
approval.
I
have.
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One
question,
mr.
chairman:
yes,
what
is
the
difference
between
I
mean
not
the
obvious
difference,
but
why
not
make
the
sidewalk
like
move
the
bikes
off
the
street?
That's
that's
just
the
way
the
city
has
decided.
Let's
make
bike
lanes
on
the
streets
instead
of
making
the
sidewalks
wider
I'm,
not
poor.
E
It's
certainly
the
current
vive
plan
does
call
for
independent
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks,
and
so
what
we're
representing
tonight
is
just
comes
right
out
of
that,
but
during
design
we're
actually,
we
actually
have
a
meeting
scheduled
next
week
with
the
city
engineering
department
to
kick
off.
I
think
the
city
engineers
in
the
audience
tonight
well
we're
gonna
be
meet
with
with
the
city.
Officially
you
next
week
on
this
project,
so
this
is
something
that
can
be
discussed
in
design.
E
A
The
second
all
those
in
favor
all
right
those
games
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
we
have
is
item
6b,
preliminary
consideration,
Neville's
prescient,
that's
right
away,
dedication,
plaque
being
10
the
city
right
away
and
the
whole
structure
is
approved.
Subject
to
the
following
comments
from
planning.
Fire
needs
a
right-of-way
before
water
utilities
has
a
common
in
most
of
developer.
F
Good-Evening
have
a
total
yeah,
howling
engineering,
as
Eddie
stated
before.
We
are
the
second
portion,
however,
I
represent
on
this
plant,
represent
to
landowners,
hilltop
and
J
MLG
Holdings,
which
it's
the
same
intent
as
what
the
previous
item
was
is
to
dedicate
the
be
right
away
so
that
those
presidentÃs
can
be
constructed.
F
We
agree
with
there's
one
major
comment
that
we
had
on
there,
which
is
no
three
I
believe
no
three
or
four
we're
going
to
change
it,
to
reflect
it
based
off
of
what
the
ordinance
the
approve
ordinance,
which
states
that
the
city
arm
a
text
on
everybody
that
involved
is
is
is
going
to
construct
it.
So
we
have
no
problem
with
changing
that
note.
I
do
just
want
to
reflect
for
the
record.
There
is
a
note
from
fire
captain
Dobey
Gus,
just
stating
that
fire
hydrants
must
be
built
with
the
roadway.
F
These
are
the
reason
the
alignment
is
the
way
it
is
a
while
back
a
water
line
was
constructed.
So
it's
art,
it
does
already
exist
along
the
alignment
of
los
presidentÃs,
and
this
is
just
showing
where
the
fire
hydrants
are
which
are
within
the
500
foot.
Spacing
here
again,
there's
some
subdivisions
that
are
being
built
already.
Those
subdivisions
have
the
300
foot
spacing
that's
required,
but
for
this
official
roadway
and
the
comment
that
was
put
on
there
that
fire
hydrants
must
be
installed
in
this
right
away.
F
This
is
showing
I
took
it
from
Eddie's
of
the
package
that
Eddie
has,
and
this
shows
the
fire
hydrant
from
the
fire
hydrants
from
putco
impose
all
the
way
to
Concord
Hills,
and
this
this
can
be
provided
later.
I
know
it's
just
an
official
comment
that
the
fire
hydrants
must
be
constructed
within
these
this
plat,
but
these
plots
are
just
make
me
right
away.
Dedication,
plans
and
all
this
would
be
I
guess
taken
care
of
in
the
in
the
actual
construction
of
the
road.
F
E
A
E
Well,
we
do
have
a.
We
do,
have
an
allowance
for
adjustment
to
fire,
hydrants
and
gate
valves,
because
those
fire
hydrants
were
installed
with
a
city
project
back
in
2006,
those
in
that
Bank
funded
project,
oh
yeah,
and
so
now
what
we're
gonna
be
doing
is
adjusting
those
hydrants
and
the
valves
to
to
tie
with
the
finish
break.
Also.
E
A
Occurs:
okay
well,
given
the
timeline
that
you
just
gave
me
in
terms
of
18
to
24
months,
more
or
less,
you
guys
are
making
an
assumption
that,
within
this
time
frame
that
particular
development
will
be
coming
up
to
speed
and
they
will
be
coming
in
and
joining
the
project
for
utilities
or
use.
Gonna
leave
right
away
for
the
utilities
to
come
in
later.
That's
pretty
much
it
right.
F
On
for
this
project,
the
water
lines
already
existing
along
this
corridor,
it
is
so
the
water
is
pretty
much
taken
care
of
many
taps.
That
would
happen
come
in
just
like
any
other
project
that
comes
in
the
sewer,
we
did
have
a
loss,
presidentÃs
east
phase,
one
come
in
about
maybe
about
three
to
four
weeks
ago.
Construction
is
about
to
start
on
those
presidentÃs
East,
which
I
I
wanted
to
put
it
up
here.
F
So
this
line
here
los
president
ascesis,
is
currently
being
constructed
or
we're
about
to
obtain
the
pre-construction
meeting
so
in
about
a
week
or
two
you'll
see
actual
boots
on
the
ground.
Within
this
development,
there's
an
off-site
sewer
that
comes
up
meat
song
comes
in
through
the
right,
the
future
right
away
and
connects
to
a
sewer
line
there
within
that
project.
F
Hopefully
this
utilities
issue
will
we
think
it
will
be
taken
care
of
sure
once
we
get
into
the
found
of
meat
and
potatoes
of
the
actual
design
as
we
see
fit,
the
developers
would
either
put
conduits
under
the
road
for
future
development,
but,
like
the
turbine
said
it's
basically
just
for
roadway
and
storm
improvements.
Thank
you.
Oh.
C
C
E
I
wish
I
would
have
thought
about
that
question.
I
would
about
that
exhibit.
There
is
a
basically
a
linear
park
system.
That
is
a
master
plan.
That's
check
one,
it's
actually
south
of
this.
It
takes
you
from
Independence,
Hills,
Regional,
Park
and
the
many
of
the
pond.
That's
already,
then
it
goes
through
the
summers
pond,
which
is
owned
by
the
city.
E
Then
you
connect
to
southern
development
which
we're
under
construction
on
that
right
now
and
then
that
connects
to
the
left
me
on
this
part
which
the
city
just
could
recently
completed,
and
then
it
connects
into
log
with
a
volume
where
we
have
our
level
divided
dam
and
we
have
a
park
master
plan
that
we're
ready
to
start
so
I
think
that's
your
question.
This
Park
regional,
this
park
system
that
I
just
described,
is
further
north
of
this
arterial
road,
at
least
a
good
two
to
three
thousand
feet,
but.
C
I
think,
but
the
thing
is,
though,
any
sort
of
cutouts
or
any
sort
of
movement
off
of
3:59
requires
us
to
go
through
tech
stock,
and
this
is
pretty
much
the
main
going
to
be
the
only
major
arterial
under
city
control.
Yes,
sir,
that's
where
we
could
get
to
and
from
and
if
you
pre
plan
the
idea
that
you're
already
gonna
have
to
get
cut
outs
to
it,
because
it's
low
I
see
what
you're
saying
I
see
it.
Okay,
it
would
I
mean
that's
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
happen.
E
So
we
can
explore
that.
We
can
definitely
explore
that,
because
this,
the
the
vision,
has
already
been
drawn
up.
Now,
it's
just
a
matter
of
implementing
it
and-
and
we
can
definitely
coordinate
that
through
textile.
Thank
you,
because
they're
gonna
be
a
player
in
this
project,
as
it
is
a
funding
player
to
this
arterial
road
is
going
to
require
an
archer
acceleration
and
deceleration
lane
to
be
is
to
be
constructed
as
part
of
it.
So
that's
the
tanks
top
portion
of
that
project.
Okay,
any.
A
The
second
all
those
in
favor,
all
right,
those
gates
motion,
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
that
we
have
is
preliminary
consideration
of
the
reef
plat
of
lot
for
and
eastern
twenty-three
point,
one
five
feet
of
block
three
block:
680
Eastern
Division
interlock
for
a
block
six
eight
Eastern
Division,
the
antennas
residential.
The
proposed
action
is
approved,
subject
to
the
following
comments
from
planning
from
engineering
from
water
and
utilities
and
a
notice
to
developer.
H
A
A
I
can
motion
the
second
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
right
motion
to
approve.
We
have
motion,
we
have
second,
okay
and
the
second
all
those
in
favor
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you
next
item.
We
have
is
item
9a.
This
is
the
issuance
a
certificate
of
no
plan
requirement
for
the
replant
of
all
of
C
for
seven
and
the
remaining
South
acres
of
C
for
six.
A
D
A
I
Okay,
we're
gonna
talk
today
about
dementing
the
land
development
code,
section
dealing
with
the
historic
district
requirements.
You
know
review
a
little
bit
about
historic
districts,
so
the
public
and
yourselves
all
have
the
same
understanding
will
discuss
the
parking
requirements
that
are
currently
existing
with
the
historic
districts
and
then
the
proposed
changes,
so
the
historic
district
is
an
overlay
zone.
It's
a
zone
that
lays
on
top
of
the
underlying
zone
and
it's
the
underlying
zone
that
that
gives
most
the
requirements.
The
overlay
zone
adds
some
additional
requirements.
I
This
is
found
in
Section
24-6,
six
of
the
land
development
code,
that's
where
the
historic
district
overlay
zone
is
located
and
the
purpose
that
you'll
find
in
the
in
the
code
as
it's
written
is
to
promote
the
preservation,
restoration
and
rehabilitation
of
historic
structures,
so
not
just
about
preserving
but
also
allowing
for
there
to
be
new
investment.
And,
of
course,
sometimes
that
brings
challenges
because
it's
an
existing
existing
neighborhood
existing
development.
That's
already
there.
I
We
have
three
historic
districts
and
one
nationally
recognized
historic
area
in
those
three
historic
districts,
the
one
the
grout
line
and
bolt
are
are
congruent
with
the
historic
district
overlay
zone.
So
that's
where
these
requirements.
What
so
currently
the
parking
requirements
for
the
sport
districts,
are
that
they're
they're
based
on
the
underlying
zone
and
the
type
of
land
use.
I
So
if
your
underlying
zone
was
b1
and
you
wanted
to
do
an
auto
repair
store
if
it
was
permitted,
that's
where
you
would
get
your
parking
requirements,
so
the
parking
requirements
don't
come
from
the
historic
district
overlay.
They
come
from
the
underlying
zone
and
the
requirements
there.
However,
currently
there
is
an
allowance
in
the
historic
district
building
official
to
waive
25%
of
the
parking
requirements
if
he
deems
it
appropriate
to
the
preservation
of
the
investment
of
the
historic
structures.
Parking
coats
component,
founded
in
section
24
78
of
the
land
development
code
and
in
general.
I
Most
of
the
parking
requirements
are
the
same
as
the
general
retail
requirement,
and
that
is
one
parking
stall
per
two
hundred
square
feet
up
to
five
thousand
square
feet
over
that
it's
one
for
250.
Now,
there's
a
variation
of
that
depending
on
the
use,
but
for
many
of
the
uses
it's
one
for
two
hundred,
so
I'll
show
I'll
share
an
example
later
so
we're
clear
with
what
that
means.
I
Now
what
we're
proposing
is
for
section
20,
4.6
6.6,
which
this
is
before
the
historic
district.
This
is
the
exception.
That's
already
there
for
the
historic
district,
we're
proposing
to
amend
that
from
25
percent
to
up
to
50
percent
of
the
parking
Kim.
Maybe
wait
so
it's
up
to
doesn't
mean
it
will
be
50
percent,
but
it
can
be
up
to
50
percent
for
those
cases
which
involve
rehabilitation,
restoration
or
preservation
of
historic
in
historic
district.
So
that's
the
first
proposal.
The
second
proposal
there's
a
lot
of
text
here.
I
What's
our
justification,
our
justification
is
that
these
historic
structures
and
oftentimes
the
Lots
well
any
changes
right
now.
The
way
that
that
the
city
has
been
interpreted,
interpreting
the
historic
Trick
requirements,
any
changes
you
make
into
the
lock
require
them
to
go
to
this
dork
board
and
because
we
do
want
to
preserve
the
existing
character,
we
don't
want
to
just
pave
everything
for
parking
lots.
We
do
want
to
encourage
the
parking
that's
on
the
street
and
we
have
a
lot
of
parking
downtown.
We
have
a
grid
system
and
we
have
parking.
I
We
have
leaders
which
we
want
people
to
use.
So
why
not
count
them?
So
that's
what
we're
writing
in
is
for
us
to
count
them
now.
We
didn't
specify
exact
specifications
and
that's
to
give
us
some
flexibility,
because
not
all
parking
is
the
same.
We
just
we
phrased
it
as
legal
and
on
street
parking.
We
didn't
stipulate
how
wide
to
have
to
count,
because
sometimes
there's
angled
parking
that
can
be
allowed.
Sometimes
it's
parallel.
We
don't
want
to
hamper
us
in
so
so
tightly,
but
it'll
be
intuitive.
I
It's
the
amount
of
legal
parking,
the
maximum
amount
of
cars
that
could
be
legally
parked
that
are
budding
the
property.
Let's,
let's
talk
about
an
example,
so
this
rows.
This
whole
question
rose
because
of
a
previous
item
that
you
heard
where
the
an
applicant
wanted
to
wanted
to
go
to
his
own
change.
A
different
zone
that
didn't
allow
that
didn't
require
parking
because
they
were
gonna
have
constraints
with
parking
on
the
property
that
they
were
making
an
investment,
and
they
only
have
six
parking
spots
on
their
lot
and
they
have
about
four
thousand
square
feet.
I
So
if
they
were
to
use
the
whole
building
which
they
want
to
use
the
whole
building.
Because
of
the
parking
requirements,
they'd
have
to
have
20
parking
stalls
for
four
thousand
square
feet.
As
you
can
see,
they
only
have
six,
and
so
what
we
would
do
with
with
the
way
that
we're
proposing
to
change
is
that,
first
of
all,
the
building
official
could
waive
50%,
seeing
that
they're
trying
to
preserve
that
historic
structure
and
that
it
falls
under
under
that
requirement.
I
And
so
now
it
could
just
be
10
and
with
the
additional
change
that
we're
proposing
they'd
be
able
to
they'd,
have
the
six
that
are
on
off
street
and
then
they'd
only
need
four
off
street
and
they'd
be
able
to
make
that.
Because
this
lot,
the
right-of-way
that
is
directly
adjacent
to
this
lot
would
allow
them
to
have
more
than
four.
If
you
count
it,
the
all
those
that
could
be
legally
parked,
there
would
be
six,
so
they
would
have
12
and
they'd
only
need
ten,
and
so
they
get.
I
We
met
with
the
members
of
the
of
the
neighborhood
to
speak
to
them
about
it
and
get
their
input
and
they
did
not
hear
any
rejection,
any
objections
they
might
share
some
tonight.
But
at
that
meeting,
when
we
discussed
it,
there
were
major
issues
with
these
proposals
that
we
submitted
and
or
that
we
presented,
and
we
also
met
with
the
applicant
of
this
proposal
and
they
as
well
I
thought
that
that
would
be
a
agreeable
solution.
You
have
any
questions
anything
I
can
answer
for
you
about
this.
Yes,.
H
H
I
For
their
ability
to
have
a
liquor
license
where
they
could
sell
beer
and
wine.
So
that's
separate
from
this
that
before
when
we
went
to
the
City
Council
meeting,
that
was
that
was
proposed
as
a
alternative
that
hey
well,
if
you've
got
parking
issues
just
use
an
SUV
and
you
can
waive
the
parking.
That's
not.
How
is
that's
not
how
special
use
permits
work?
We
can't
go
lower
than
the
requirement
with,
especially
with
an
SUV.
We
could
go
higher.
I
You
could
ask
them
to
have
more
parking,
but
you
can't
wait
parking
through
it,
especially
usually
so
that
wasn't
going
to
work
as
an
option
for
the
parking
issue
here.
So
that's
why
we
had
to
look
for
an
alternative,
which
is
why
we're
changing
this
door
district,
but
I
will
have
to
go
to
for
an
SUV
if
they
want
to
have
a.
I
C
C
What
stops
this
business
from
leasing
and
we've
never
had
a
problem
with
other
people,
leasing
other
parking
spots
to
get
them
under
or
over
the
threshold
for
the
parking
spaces.
So
why
are
we
changing
the
rules
for
one
specific,
like
we're,
changing
the
whole
ordinance
for
one
specific
property?
It's.
I
I
I
Are
unrelated
what
sorry,
the
SUV
is
unrelated
to
the
parking
that
City
Council
had
brought
that
up
as
an
idea
of
where
we
could
or
at
the
City
Council
meeting
it
was
brought
up
that
we
could
use
a
special
use,
permit
an
SUV
as
a
way
to
solve
the
parking
issue,
but
we
can't
that's
that
we
can't
reduce
parking
requirements
with
a
special
use
permit.
We
can
only
increase
them.
Okay,.
I
I
D
Yes,
I
understand
that
and
I
personally
with
a
supporter,
I
would've
gone
with
Seop
myself,
but
either
of
these
is
regardless
of
HR,
o
or
H.
Cbd
is
still.
The
parking
issue
still
exists.
The
park
interest
exists
regardless.
If
we
do
not
adopt
these.
No,
if
it's,
if
it's
its
current
zoning
or
if
it's
changed
CBD,
it
doesn't
impact
what
we're
talking
about.
Okay,
could
you
elaborate.
I
D
Question
it's
only
about
the
type
of
business,
whether
it's
HR,
o
or
CBD,
the
zone
change
it
doesn't
impact.
What
we're
talking
about
well,
we're
not
requesting
a
zone.
Changed
I,
understand
that
I'm
sad
I'm
looking
ahead,
so
it's
not!
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
with
the
zone
change
itself.
What
hasn't
they
do
is
changing
this.
This
requirement
down
from
25
to
50.
D
A
He's
trying
to
find
a
solution
that
is
a
makeable
for
everybody
using
street
parking.
Really,
it's
really
what
it
is,
as
opposed
to
not
having
adequate
space
and
the
other
parts
of
town
that
are
being
converted
to
some
kind
of
the
use
are
basically
residential
lots
from
the
past
as
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
accommodate
a
lot
of
parking
on.
So
this
is
an
option
where
you
can
use
a
property
for
some
kind
of
venue
and
meet
the
parking
requirement
using
Street
Wall
Street
no
street
parking.
Yes,.
I
Maybe
we're
not
interested
in
reducing
that
that
requirement,
and
maybe
it's
not
a
good
location.
Maybe
you
should
look
at
your
business,
not
in
historic
district,
because
we
can't
make
it
work,
but
well
we.
What
we
want
to
do
is
not
exclude
opportunities
that
will
not
have
a
significant
impact
and
we'll
use
the
off
street
parking.
That's
located
right
there,
because
we
want
them
to
use
it.
Yes,.
G
I
I
I
C
I
J
A
J
We
are
the
owners
of
the
Phoenix
bookstore,
which
is
the
property
that
you
see
there.
So
we
did
sign
up
for
comments
simply
because
we
want
to
portray
a
message
from
us:
the
owners
and
the
investors
of
this
property
that
we
are
really
thankful
for
everything
that
the
city
of
Laredo
is
doing
to
make
sure
to
push
us
into
completing
our
project
and
to
be
able
to
open
our
doors
to
our
to
our
future
business.
J
And
I
noticed
that
you
did
have
a
lot
of
questions
pertaining
to
our
intent
of
what
we
are
going
to
like
our
business
plan
and
what
we
want
to
present
to
the
city.
Even
though
this
meeting
is
only
pertaining
to
the
parking.
We
do
want
to
say
that
our
business,
our
primary
use
of
our
business,
is
a
book
start
legitimate
book
start.
J
With
wine
events,
when
it's
going
to
be
consumed
at
a
moderate
level,
nothing
to
exceed
that
not
nothing
to
exceed
that
like
an
like
a
bar
type
of
setting
that
you
typically
see
along
it
would
be
the
street.
That
is
not
our
intent.
That
is
not
the
business
fun
that
we
are
planning
planning.
That
is
not
the
type
of
customers
that
we
want
to
attract.
We
want
only
you
know,
moderate
drinking,
just
just.
A
D
A
I
Time
we
checked
on
this
with
council
only
one
of
these
meetings,
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
City
Council,
for
that
public
hearing
needs
to
be
noticed
for
the
16
days.
So
this
had
the
this
have
the
noticing
requirements
that
are
normal
and
that
suffice
is
for
this
meeting
for
this
recommendation
for
the
actual
public
hearing
that
will
take
place
at
City
Council,
but
we've
already
noticed
it
so
that
it
could
be
it
can
meet
the
16
day
requirement.
So
last
time
we
checked
with
legal.
I
A
I
Would
ask
that
once
again
we
table
this
for
another
meeting,
I'm
thinking
I
have
more
of
the
quorum
more
of
the
Commission
here
and
a
little
more
time
that
you
don't
look
at
your
watch
waiting
for
me
to
finish.
So
no,
it's
fine
that
we're
waiting
a
little
longer,
because
this
is
a
this-
is
a
process
that
overall
will
take
18
months
for
several
months
into
that
already.
I
C
Me
to
push
either
the
public
information
office
to
do
a
better
job
of
giving
or
reaching
out
whether
it
be
through
social
media
through
a
non-traditional
media
forms
before
meeting
the
general
public
of
these
meetings,
because
the
only
people
that
know
about
these
meetings
with
people
that
are
actually
trying
to
look
for
them
like
so
nice.
If
people
don't
show
up,
they
don't
show
up,
but
more
attempts
at
outreach
through
traditional
well
through
the
office
of
the
city
government.
That
does
that.
I
Is
a
very
good
input
and
we've
received
it
from
a
few
commissioners
and
it's
not
the
fault
of
the
public
information
office.
That
was
our
intent
with
the
meetings
we've
had.
First.
Is
that
they're
smaller
stakeholder
meetings,
where
we're
sending
specific
invites
now
we
are
gonna,
have
public
meetings
that
are
gonna,
be
open
to
the
public,
widely
open
those
ones.
We
will
weigh
push
out
now
these
stakeholder
meetings.
Maybe
we
we
could
do
an
you
know
we
could
throw
a
wider
net
or
we
can
make
people
know
about
it.
I
Multiple
times
we
did
our
out
our
and
I
as
part
of
the
Rico
Laredo
presentation,
I
I
I
wanted
to
show
you
what
our
I
have
a
printout.
That
I
will
bring
to
show
you
what
we're
doing
to
reach
out
to
the
various
groups.
All
the
groups
we
invited
we
send
in
multiple
emails.
We
did
multiple
calls.
We
confirmed
for
those
that
would
come
the
day
of
and
we
reached
out
to
30
40
organizations
between
the
meetings
that
we've
already
had.
C
I
F
I
Criticism
we're
not
inviting
only
a
certain
group
of
people.
We
really
did
as
wide
as
we
could
to
different
organization,
industry
professionals,
developers,
architects,
engineers,
everybody
to
hit
that
we
talked
to
the
Lorena
home
builders
developers
that
are
active,
trying
to
get
all
the
people
that
really
are
involved
with
the
code
and
we're
also
going
to
be
having
public
meetings
where
we
will
get
everybody
out
and
get
all
their
input.
I
In
addition
to
that,
we're
doing
two
surveys:
Spanish
in
the
english
that
we'll
be
putting
out
over
the
next
year
to
gather
input
so
we're
trying
as
best
as
we
can
but
I
will
take
I'm
taking
your
anklet.
Yes,
we're
gonna
do
a
better
job
of
well
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
much
input
as
possible
from
everybody
in
the
city,
those
that
agree
with
us,
those
that
don't
so.
I
G
C
E
I
Powerfully,
no,
it's
a
little
it's
a
little
wider
than
that.
What,
as
far
as
the
open
meetings
act,
if
a
public
official
such
as
me,
somebody
that
works
for
the
city
is
communicating
information
about
the
city.
Then,
if
you
form
quorum
at
that
meeting,
you're
breaking
the
open
button,
you're
open
meetings.
I
That
would
normally
be
brought
to
you
if
it's
information
being
communicated
by
a
city
official
at
a
city
function,
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
do
need
to
notice
it
if
you
feel
tall.
So
we
were
trying
to
be
a
little
careful
about
that.
Knowing
that
we
were
coming
to
you
multiple
times.
Of
course
you
didn't
know
that
yet
because
we
hadn't
announces
that
I
would
be
coming
here
to
give
you
the
same
recode,
the
rate
of
presentation
I've
been
giving,
but.
G
D
First,
so
these
stakeholder
meetings
well
I'll
call
them
that
there's
distributed
throughout
the
city
yeah.
No,
that
would
be
a
thing
to
do.
I'm
just
Edmund,
you
could
target
two
or
three
locations
or
two
locations
I'm,
making
this
up
two
locations
per
district.
Here's
your
record
rate
of
stakeholders
meeting
come
speak
up
here
and
then
each
Commissioner
can
attend
theirs
if
they
want
to
that
pertains
to
30.
So
we're.
I
Having
multiple
rounds
of
stakeholder
meetings,
let
me
break
this
down.
We
have
stakeholder
meetings
for
industry,
forestry
professionals,
focus
groups
for
those
that
are
indirectly
related
with
the
code
like
organization,
city
departments
and
then
public
means
so
for
the
stakeholder
and
focus
group
meetings
we're
having
multiple
rounds
of
those.
This
first
round,
we
did
downtown
for
the
other
rounds.
We're
gonna
do
at
other
locations
such
as.
I
For
the
public
meetings,
we're
doing
just
that
right,
we're
gonna
have
a
public
meeting
in
each
of
the
districts
in
the
district
at
a
location
in
the
district
to
reach
out
to
teach
them
know,
that's
a
good
idea.
Don't
worry,
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page.
We
want
to
get
as
much
input
as
possible
from
everybody
in
the
city
that
wants
to
give
us
input
on
this.
So
we're
not
in
any
way
trying
to
filter
this
down
to
work.
We're
actually
working
very
hard
to
get
a
lot
of.
G
D
I
I
A
Think
what
we
can
do
there
and
I'm
just
gonna
give
you
suggestion
me
is
there's
different
associations
that
I
think
we
should
have
meetings
with,
say:
plumbers
or
electricians,
your
mechanical
people
just
to
get
their
input
to
on
on
on
the
enforcement
and
the
type
of
coding
that's
going
on
out
there
and
what
they
feel.
Okay,
they
pull
permits
exactly
I
would.
I
A
Down
with
all
right,
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
just
get
their
input.
It
may
be
that
it
had.
We
cannot
do
anything
about
the
codes
that
are
adopted,
okay,
but
there
might
be
a
process
in
how
we're
recoding
Lorado
that
can't
be
impacted
that
these
people,
because
they
work
again
destroy
day
in
and
day
out,
may
have
some
good
ideas
as
to
what
would
be
a
good
methodology
to
use
that
would
make
it
easy
for
everybody
to
work.
That's
good
input.