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Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Committee Meeting 121520
A
A
Very
good,
okay,
we
have
a
quorum.
We
were
minutes
of
the
meetings
from
the
october
13th
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
and
november
10th
of
2020
were
presented
to
the
board
via
email.
A
few
days
ago.
We've
all
had
a
chance
to
review
them.
Are
there
any
con?
There's
a
motion
on
the
table
that
we
approve
the
minutes
as
presented
to
us.
Is
there
any
discussion,
changes
additions.
B
A
Those
opposed
same
sign
motion
carries
and
the
minutes
are
approved,
presented
item
4
on
the
agenda
citizen
comments.
Citizens
are
required
to
fill
out
an
online
witness
card
no
later
at
5
45
pm
and
can
be
found
at
the
city
of
laredo's
website.
Comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
No
more
than
three
persons
will
be
allowed
to
speak
on
any
side
of
an
issue.
Speakers
may
not
pass
the
minutes
to
any
speaker.
Comments
should
be
relevant
to
the
city
business
and
delivered
in
a
professional
manner.
No
derogatory
remarks
will
be
permitted.
A
E
A
Of
some
of
the
streets
we
discussed
to
receive
information
on
in
terms
of
estimates
on
cost
to
work,
project
I'll.
Let
you
know
ahead
of
time
that
I
did
ask
able
city
to
show
me
this
information
to
make
sure
that,
at
the
very
least
at
the
minimal
they
were
presenting
what
we
were
looking
for
and
they
had
the
sketches
here
that
you
see
in
front
of
you.
A
So
they
presented
those
the
renters
of
those
streets
and
then
they
did
an
estimate
of
the
areas
we
targeted
in
terms
of
wanting
an
estimate
on
how
much
it
costs
to
do
that
street
with
what
we
selected
within
those
streets.
I
think
we've
I
I'm
assuming,
and
I
I
look
to
the
board
right
now.
I'm
looking
at
you
all
those
that
are
present
and
assume
that
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
presentation
and
would
like
to
open
the
floor
up
to
discussion
on
the
presentation.
D
A
F
F
As
a
suggestion,
I
would
like
to
maybe
offer
comments
in
general
and
then
kind
of
come
back.
Let's
let
the
rest
of
the
board
offer
there
and
then
back
with
it
could
be
an
action
for
today,
but
so
overall,
I
think
the
taragosa
budget
is
is
is
a
good
one.
I
think
it
achieves
a
lot
I
would
like
to
stretch
and
to
back
to
the
walkway,
to
the
plaza
or
or
to
that
block.
F
The
tangible
parkway,
I
think,
still
need
some
some
work
in
terms
of
citing
that
those
improvements
back
is
something
that's
that's
a
little
less
than
that
and
again
again,
I
think
in
terms
of
rendering
I'm
not
a
designer,
so
things
look
great
to
me.
Others
might
feel
that
they
could.
I
can't
improve
the
design
now.
That's
not
what
I
do.
The
that
goes
on
monument,
I
think,
is
probably
in
the
lesser
priority
for
me
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
projects,
but
I
also
think
that
what
they
offer
there.
F
The
proposal
is
a
good
one.
The
vita
street,
I'm
gonna
back
up
just
real
quickly
on
on
on
lighting,
I
think
there's
things
that
can
be
achieved
with
minimal
costs
bring
lighting
without
necessarily
the
pose
throughout,
but
I
think
it's
giving
more
lighting
and
more
of
the
h,
the
health
or
the
h
that
we've
talked
about
on
the
interview.
As
as
a
I
personally,
I
like
the
the
the
monument
that's
presented
there
as
a
placeholder,
I
like
to
tag,
I'm
sure
others
might
have
some
input.
F
I
think
the
the
the
investment
there
only
could
be
the
street
is
is
probably
within
reason
very
similar
to
saragosa.
I
I
just
think
that,
instead
of
doing
both
sides,
we
just
do
one
side
and
take
ourselves
into
a
potential
phase,
two
for
the
other
side
of
the
street.
That's
what
the
board
wants
to
do.
But,
overall,
those
are
my
comments.
I
think
it's
a
great
job
done
enticing
the
scope
back.
I
think,
for
today
I'm
not
prepared
to
really
vote
on
the
the
tangible
parkway.
F
I
think
there's
some
decisions
to
be
made
there
over
costs
and
investment,
but
I
think
we
could
probably
do
it.
You
know
in
the
year
in
the
near
future,
next
month
or
the
month
after,
but
on
the
other
two
I
think
you
know
we
are
in
a
good
place
to
make
some
some
decisions,
the
monument
on
iturbide
and
the
zaragoza
block.
I
think
those
are
ready
to
act
on.
F
I
think
the
saragosa
presents
itself
as
a
really
in
terms
of
what
kirby's
impressed
on
us
over
time,
activating
those
of
course
we're
in
a
depressed
economy,
but
if
we
weren't
activating
those
vacant
vacant
properties
to
create
some
tax
value.
So
I
like
that,
particularly
like
the
zaragoza
work.
So
that's
my
preliminary
input.
G
I
need
to
read
it
because
I
I
do
like
the
fact
of
the
improvements
to
on
the
potential
walkway,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
see
that
maybe
water
down
a
little
bit,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
put
that
much
money
into
it
yet
and
on
the
other
end
of
sarah,
I
think
that
can
wait.
Also,
that's
I'd
like
to
focus
our
attention
on
santa
also
between
the
plaza
and
that
and
and
then
also
whatever
the
board
dictates.
B
If
we
can
continue
if
we
can
continue
that
lighting
all
down
ether
b
day
to
the
full
extent
that
we've
been
discussing
in
the
past,
not
not
just
the
first
few
blocks,
but
that's
a
relatively,
I
think,
big
bang
for
your
buck
in
terms
of
the
the
what
was
there.
I
know
that
was
just
a
rendering
of
an
idea
with
the
thing
with
the
cowboy
hat,
the
lighting,
so
you
probably
that
was
probably
something
you
grabbed
from
somewhere
else.
I'm
sure
you
didn't
even
custom
design
that,
but
I
was.
B
H
B
Yeah
and
yeah,
so,
okay,
the
scale
of
what
I
was
thinking
would
be
larger,
but
I'll
reiterate
it
again.
I
think
that
our
our
the
improvements
that
we
make
that
are
well.
If
you
look
at
the
cost
estimates
they
provided
up,
I
feel
like
those
are,
are
in
the
ballpark,
maybe
on
the
bit
of
the
conservative
side
but
they're
in
the
ballpark,
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
cost
of
the
improvements
where
we're
doing
improvements
to
sidewalk,
it
gets
very
expensive.
B
C
H
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
we've
we've
seen
versions
of
this
in
prior
meetings
vivienne.
I
know
that
this
has
more
detail
in
it
and
and
there's
more
exactness
in
it.
But
I
I'd
like
to
get
you
to
hear
the
general
comments
that
are
being
made
and
then
maybe
respond
to
those
and
then
we'll
move
forward
from
there.
G
Actually,
I'd
like
to
compliment
with
diana
and
her
team,
there
I
mean
you've
made
it
a
really
very
simple,
to
understand
presentation
to
where
I
think
we
get
get
where
we're
going
with
it.
We've
talked
about
it
enough
and
you've
made
it
very,
very
clear
to
us
so
an
excellent
job
on
what
you've
done
so
far,
yeah.
A
H
You
well
thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
just
say
that
I
think,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting,
I
think,
since
nobody
it
needs
to
be
recorded
or
something
that
it
needs
to
be
shown.
Even
if
it's
fast
that's
my
only
and
you
can
do
it
after
your
comments,
but
at
some
point
I
think
it
does
need
to
be
presented.
C
Yes,
hi,
I
agree
with
the
comments
that
were
made.
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
a
intervening
street
and
if
we
could
get
more
than
the
one
third
block
of
of
of
italy,
that
would
be
great.
I
also
agree
that
zaragoza
street
monument
should
be
done.
I
mean
that
would
attract
more
people
to
the
district
and,
of
course
the
third
one
would
be
zaragoza
street
between
combat
and
salinas.
A
E
A
A
A
Oh,
that's
right,
I'm
sorry!
I
did
see
that
so
it's
a
half
block
and
that's
the
estimate
for
the
half
block,
and
so
then
this
this
and
I
think
we
need
to
clarify
this
for
those
board
members
that
may
have
thought
that
it
was
the
entire
zone.
That's
shown
on
this
map
in
the
presentation
and
going
to
viviana's
point
in
a
second
viviana.
I
will
encourage
us
to
to
put
up
the
the
presentation
so
that
people
can
see
it.
F
I
heard
patty's
comment
and
I
really,
if
she's,
okay
with
it,
I'd
like
to
ask
her
questions,
because
she
may
not
have
heard
my
my
comments,
but
I
thought
it
has
a
lot
of
vacant
properties
and
I
really
wanted
to
hear
from
her
isn't
rank
as
maybe
as
high
as
it
does
for
me.
So
I
wanted
to
maybe
ask
her
if
she's,
okay,
with
that,
with
responding,
why
it
ranks
lower
than
the
other,
it
could
be.
E
I
don't
think
it's
really
going
to
make
much
of
an
impact
as
far
as
traffic
or
people
hanging
out
or
anything,
but
I
I
I
do
get
the
point
that
that
whole
side
that
whole
street
is
undeveloped.
I
mean
it's
empty
location,
so
you
know
that
that's
just
my
thinking
I
I
like
to
I
like
I'm
going
for
the
immediate
impact.
E
F
A
Well,
I
will
add
that
I
think
this
leads.
This
goes
back
to
a
comment
that
kirby
made
a
couple
of
times
in
a
couple
of
meetings
that
given
the
budget
focusing
on
an
impact
area
is
important,
whether
we
decide,
let's
say
saragosa
from
salinas
through
convent
to
flores
or
be
it
from
santa,
usually
all
the
way
to
to
tangelo,
because
then
that
causes
us
to
focus
on
an
area
of
impact
one
or
the
other.
A
So
let's
assume
you
did
a
sign,
the
the
the
signs
that
were
suggested
on
on
on
zaragoza,
and
it
would
be
that
as
an
entryway
or
a
gateway,
those
are
toaster
can
be
budgeted
in.
But
after
that
you
know
it's
almost
one
or
the
other.
It's
either
saragosa
two
block
area.
It
could
be
the
two
block
area
or
tangela
parkway,
two
block
area
before
we've
exhausted
a
good
half
to
three-fourths
of
the
budget.
B
Well,
as
we're
thinking
through
that
I'll
reiterate
what
I've
said
before,
because
it
sounds
like
it's
been
helpful:
if
we
really
want
to
measure
the
job
of
the
tours,
what
the
way
that
we
measure
it
five
years
from
now
or
ten
years
from
now,
the
data
will
be
even
better
as
we
look
at
the
webb
county,
assessors
data
and
we
say,
did
the
assessment
of
these
values
of
these
properties
were
near
where
we're
making
these
improvements
or
the
streets
were
making
these
improvements?
Did
it
go
up?
B
Did
the
assessor
come
by
and
say,
oh
look
and
by
the
way,
it's
not
as
sophisticated
as
a
process,
as
you
might
think,
although
some
of
you
all
might
realize
how
not
sophisticated
it
can
be,
but
somebody
might
look
and
realize.
Oh
look,
there's
investment
happening
in
this
building.
Okay!
Well,
we
need
to
reassess
it
and-
and
so,
if
an
assessor
can
recognize,
there's
value
here,
that's
because
there
is
it's
being
leased
out
and
renovated,
or
a
new
buyer
comes
in
and
buys
it,
and
why
would
they
do
that?
B
Why
would
someone
do
that
because
they're
locating
their
business
here
or
they're
reinvesting
in
the
area,
but
ultimately
they're
doing
it
because
there's
more
activity
and
there's
something
drawn
in
there?
And
so
if
we
make
an
investment
that
draws
that
increases
activity
or
has
the
has
the
the
feeling
or
encouragement
like
it's
increasing
activity,
for
instance
lighting
up
ether
b
day
or
putting
in
a
a
big
monument
that
that
calls
it
into
this
place?
B
G
B
I
think
it
would
be
less
impactful
it's
that
we
want
to
do
the
things
that
are
most
impactful
first,
because
they
will
give
us
more
money
later
on
in
the
life
of
the
turs,
to
then
come
back
and
do
some
more
aesthetic
things,
but
less
impactful
things
to
other
parts
of
the
tours,
including
places
like
saddam
here.
So
I
thought
that
very
repeating.
A
A
So
I
don't
know
if
maybe
an
exercise
as
a
a
task.
This
group
has
maybe
not
even
immediately
now,
in
other
words,
just
need
a
couple
of
weeks
to
say:
okay,
here's
how
I
would
pro
pro
prioritize
things
or
maybe
you're
ready
to
say
that
now
I
mean
some
of
you
have
patty
has
and
jose
has
kirby
has
two.
So
I'm
wondering
what
do
you
recommend?
How
do
you
recommend
we
move
forward
with
focusing.
B
B
That's
and
you've
got
la
pasada
already
totally
utilizing
the
property.
You've
got
the
the
outlet
mall
totally
utilizing
that
property
you've
got.
Churches
checked
and
you've
got
several
properties
that
are
already
fully
utilized,
and
you
would
not
expect
them
to
make
additional
investment
based
on
the
investment
we're
going
to
make.
On
top
of
that,
you
might
also
say
how
we're
fixing
a
sidewalk,
even
though
it's
needed
it's
definitely
needed.
B
But
how
would
fixing
a
sidewalk
encourage
a
business
to
make
an
investment?
What
do
they
see
the
benefit
of
that?
How
do
they
see
in
their
mind
we
think
of
it
as
a
business
owner?
Would
that
encourage
you
to
locate
a
business
there
because
the
city
fixed
the
sidewalks
like?
Oh,
this
is
a
friend
right
now.
B
That
says
somebody
who's
thinking
of
putting
up
a
restaurant
or
a
bar
on
del
mar
might
think.
Hey,
there's
something
going
on
on
ether
beta.
You
know,
plus
the
city's
making
additional
investments
driving
more
attention
to
it
and
the
lighting-
and
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
go
check
out.
I'm
gonna
go
talk
with
some
property
owners,
see
if
they'll
there's
a
good
lease
I
could
sign.
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
sidewalk
would
would
would
cause
that
kind
of
or.
C
A
D
H
H
F
H
H
H
H
C
H
H
I
think
it
works
very
well
because
those
string
lights
that
they
put
on
trees
get
mangled,
and
you
really
should
have
them
on
posts
and
not
not
on
trees
unless
they
are
heavily
maintained
and-
and
we
know,
we
can't
maintain
these
these-
these
improvements
through
the
tour.
So
next
slide,
please
essentially
when
this
entry,
my
these
monument
entry
for
this
historic,
the
probably
the
most
historic
it
is
the
most
historic
district,
an
important
district
in
in
laredo.
H
These
it's
essentially
the
the
entryway
to
the
most
historic
district.
It
is
impactful
as
part
of
this
project
we're
suggesting
that
the
that
the
lighting
in
the
in
in
well
in
the
top
of
the
the
pyramids
at
the
top
would
be
lit.
You
can
light
them
orange
for
halloween
and
green
for
christmas,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
they
they
would
be
interactive
in
that
way.
H
H
H
H
In
fact,
when
we
show
you
the
little
sketch
plan
that
we
did
I'll
show
you
exactly
what
I
what
we
mean
about
that
this
would
require
both
sides
well
in
this
drawing.
It
requires
both
sides
of
the
street
to
be
the
sidewalk
to
be
wide
they're,
very
narrow,
sidewalks,
both
of
them,
but
it's
a
very
wide
street.
H
So
it's
possible
to
to
really
make
this
a
very
walkable
street
because
of
the
width
of
the
street.
It's
very
very
wide.
The
monument
is
meant
to
be
high
in
this,
drawing
because
of
the
light
post.
That's
there.
We
we
couldn't
really
fix
it,
but
it's
supposed
to
be
closer
to
the
street
so
that
you
can
see
it
when
the
when
you're
going
down
the
car
and
it's
tall
enough
to
be
able
to
see
from
farther
away
so
next
slide.
Please.
H
H
These
are
preliminary
opinions
of
probable
cost.
What's
not
showing
here
is,
you
know,
engineering's
a
survey
that
kind
of
thing
we
won't
know
until
we
actually
get
there
it's
going
to
be
different
for
every
street
and
because
we,
because
of
all
the
little
things
that
you
have
to
figure
out,
for
instance,
on
all
these
opinions
of
probable
costs.
H
You
know
it's
impossible
to
go
out
there,
time,
wise
and
and
not
necessary
at
this
level
until
you
all
really
kind
of
decide
where
you
want
to
go
first,
so
that
we
can
spend
the
time
necessary
to
go
and
count
the
clean
outs
and
this
and
the
signs
that
need
to
be
removed
and
the
meter
boxes
and
there's
all
these
little
things
that
that
when
they
get
touched,
they
have
to
be
dealt
with
and
and
anyways.
So
also.
H
H
However,
until
we
do
a
survey
which
I
suggest
that
we
do
of
all
these
areas
really
so
that
that
we're
ready
to
do
the
work
on
them
when,
when
needed,
that's
when
we
can
get
to
a
closer
opinion
of
probable
cost,
these
are
as
kirby
or
mr
snyderman
said.
He.
He
pointed
out
that
these
it
could
be
a
little
conservative.
F
So
so
I
took
a
concrete,
concrete
contractor
out
to
look
at
all
these
locations
and
your
numbers
are
actually
on
the
mark
with
what
he
told
me,
because
I
thought
they
were
high
the
last
time.
So
I
took
him
out
there
and
you
know
he
explained
that
which
is
probably
a
motion
that
I
will
make
later
to
work
with
the
city
utilities
department
directly
to
work
on
the
water
meter
and
sewer
taps
and
all
that
it's
not
super
tough,
a
sewer,
clean
out.
F
H
B
One
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
flushless
streets
or
curbless
streets,
that
that
isn't
something
that
the
the
city's
familiar
with
doing.
You
know
we
might
need
a
contract
with
that,
but
that
is
a
very
that
is
more
expensive
than
just
you
know,
fixing
a
traditional
sidewalk,
maybe
that's
broken
up
or
extending
it
doing.
Flush
lists
like
this
is
is
oh
well,.
H
H
E
E
E
H
F
A
I
E
H
H
H
B
H
H
H
H
That
they
are
not
very
keen
on
move
when,
when
their
their
spaces
are
kind
of
to
them.
So
really
it's
going
to
have
to
be
kind
of
renovations
to
the
sidewalk
on
the
south
side,
or
maybe
you
can
offer
facade
improvement
grants
which
I
think
are
probably
more
necessary
than
a
than
a
you
know,
a
facelift
on
the
sidewalk.
H
H
Oh,
I
did
I'm
sorry,
I'm
I
was
remiss.
Can
you
go
to
italy,
the
street,
the
plan?
I
need
to
be
a
street
because
I
won't
go
down,
keep
going,
keep
going
that
one
in
the
sketch.
If
you
can
see
in
the
sketch,
that's
where
in
the
front
I
have
the
the
poles
with
the
lighting
and
then
behind
that
more
towards.
A
F
A
A
B
A
F
I
my
only
comment
that
I
said
earlier:
I'm
not
a
designer,
you
know
I
like
what's
being
presented.
I
also
agree
with
kirby
that
there
needs
to
be
kind
of
like
a
gateway
that
you're
entering,
but
I
think
I
think,
if
we
let
them
come
back
with
a
couple
of
options,
we
may
be
able
to
get
get
all
of
it.
You
know,
as
best
as
we
can.
A
A
A
H
A
H
H
A
B
F
B
Would
you
consider
extending
that
modifying
that
motion
to
include
an
estimate
that
goes
further
down
ether
b
day
with
the
lighting,
not
the
trees
or
the
not
the
trees
and
the
curbs
but
or
sidewalk,
but
just
to
to
add
another
option
which
would
extend
that
lighting
all
the
way
down?
At
the
beginning.
F
Like
kirby
the
lights,
actually,
we
have,
we
have
lights
beginning,
we
don't
have
lights
in
the
in
the
third
block.
I
don't
know
the
numbers,
but
where
on
the
rocks
is
that
block
doesn't
have
lighting
so
that
needs
lighting?
We
can
extend
it
to
that
and
then
then
you
get
to
floatus
and
then
you
have
some
some
some
pole
lights.
B
A
A
A
Utilizing
what
we
believe
to
be
in
one
side
of
the
street,
although
viviana
may
present
an
option
showing
how
we
can
for
the
same
price
cross
the
street
and
do
a
couple
of
things,
but
the
idea
of
being
on
one
side
of
the
street
so
that
we're
able
to
do
more.
A
two
block
per
year.
Rather
than
just
a
half
a
block
area.
C
G
A
The
record,
mr
garcia's
understanding
from
this
vote.
Thank
you
arturo
and
the
ice.
The
eyes.
Have
it
I'll
note
one
thing
for
the
record:
I
mean
for
your
your
information
carol,
just
so
that
you're
aware
of
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
came
in
during
the
first
item
that
was
presented,
and
that
was
to
get
a
rendering
and
more
information
on
the
what's.
It
called
the
gateway
sign
for
iturbida
street
so
that
that
project
can
begin
to
move
forward.
A
H
And
that
property
that
that
sits
on
is
property
of
webb
county
and
it's
a
good
way
to
go
and
talk
to
them
about.
You
know
what
the
project's
gonna
you
know.
They
have
a
interesting
an
inch
and
they
also
have
a
project
in
mind.
On
the
other
side,
where
they're
gonna
invest
a
couple
million
dollar
zones,
that's
correct.
A
I
only
asked
that
question
because,
when
we're
ready
to
move
forward
with
the
be
the
sign,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
budget
that
it
pertains
to
this
side.
This
gateway,
yes
and
I'd
like
to
move
forward
and
making
sure
both
gateways
are
we're
moving
forward
on
both
gateway
projects
and
and
not
have
to
start
because
we,
it
wasn't
at
a
point
of
being
ready.
F
Henry
I
have
another
motion,
but
I
I
wanted
to.
I
want
to
wait
on
the
board's
discussion.
It
relates
to
asking
our
city
liaison
to
discuss
the
partnership
with
the
city,
but
I
think
I
can
wait
after
the
projects
in
terms
of
just
collaborating
with
the
city
on
on
the
utility
work
and
demo
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
also
the
eda.
G
Whatever
the
the
other
board
members
would
want
to
participate
in
it.
Also,
I
I
just
you
know
it's
a
fairly
expensive
project,
I'm
looking
at
it
here,
but
I
think
we
can
tackle
it
in
pieces
or
whatever
or
available.
Cities
can
come
back
to
us
and
give
us
a
a
proportionate.
You
know
amount
where
we
can
scale
out,
maybe
over
the
next
three
years.
G
The
the
only
thing
I
have
a
concern
is
that
knowing
the
two
businesses
that
I've
dealt
with
right
now
with
parklets
and
everything
they
actually
utilize,
the
that
that
wall
to
project
videos
and
everything
else
right
now
so
unless
it
can
be
incorporated
or
maybe
another
wall
can
be
selected,
would
probably
be
that,
but
I
just
but
the
the
current
businesses
that
are
there
at
the
other
at
that
all
the
detention
walkway
they
do
utilize
it.
But
so
I
guess,
if
maybe
we
could
move
on
the
mural.
G
A
G
F
G
F
A
Okay,
so
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
able
city
come
back
with
a
phased-in
plan
for
the
tangelo
parkway
or
walkway
or
whatever
it's
called
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
want
to
say
whatever,
because
let's
be
exact,
this
is
emotion.
What
is
it
called?
Tatangelo
walkway
parkway,
okay,
parkway
there
we
go
de
tangelo
parkway
and
divide
this
up
into
three
parts.
I
I
do
have
a
common
to
make
so
we're
revisiting
the
zones
that.
A
A
G
Well,
I
think,
mr
chairman,
if
we
can
get
down
to
these
these
three
three
little
sites
that
we're
talking
about.
I
think
the
board's
already
made
some
good
motions,
and
I
think
if
we
can
all
agree
that
next
month,
we'll
make
that
final
cut
yep
right,
I
think
and
not
stretch
it
out
anymore,
because
I
think
we've
not
stretched
it
and
stressed
it
for
about
four
months
now.
So
I
think
that's
enough.
H
A
A
Let's
call,
let's
have
the
vote.
All
those
in
favor,
say
aye
same
sign,
motion
carries
very
good.
Is
there?
Are
there
any
other
motions?
Are
there
any
other?
Are
there
any
other
comments?
Carol?
I'm
sorry.
I
know
that
I
think
you
said
you
had
a
conflict,
a
scheduling,
conflict
and
couldn't
come
in
earlier,
but
I'd
certainly
welcome
any
comments
you
have
at
this
point.
The
board,
all
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
presentation
as
they
saw
it.
I
C
I
A
A
E
I
A
So,
yes,
so
no
carol
what
was
referred
to
as
the
fact
that
we
had
made
comments
on
the
plan
on
other
streets
and
there
are
motions
to
ask
able
city
to
refine
a
couple
of
things,
but
we
haven't
asked
them
to
do
that
on
saragosa
street.
So
the
comment
was:
does
that
mean
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
sarajosa
street
and
as
one
of
the
board
members
pointed
out?
No
that
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
with
it.
A
It
means
that
the
plan
that's
been
presented,
we're
comfortable
with
the
way
it's
been
presented
and
will
either
vote
up
or
down
on
that
presentation.
Unless
patty
would
like
to
make
an
amendment
or
make
a
motion
to
refine
the
presentation
or
ask
for
something
different
on
the
saragosa
portion
of
the
presentation.
B
H
A
Second
stage,
so
let
me
let
me
go
ahead
and
state
the
motion
and
patty
correct
me
if
I'm
saying
it
incorrectly.
So
the
motion
is
that
you
please
visit
the
project
on
sadavosa
as
just
a
lighting
project
and
not
a
tree
and
sidewalk
projects
with
a
component
that
would
include
a
possible
facade,
improvement
component.
I
Okay,
so
I
I
thought
that
that
that
able
city
was
gonna,
look
at
the
lighting
down,
saragosa
and
also
well.
I
I
know
that
because
the
the
parts
of
the
sidewalk
are
are
challenging
extremely
challenging
on,
but
I
thought
that
it
did
include
not
just
lighting
but
also
some
an
idea
of
some
trees.
Downside
of
can
you
put
that.
B
Yeah,
but
just
to
carol
what
we're
asking
is
just
another
option,
so
it's
not
eliminating
the
option.
That's
there
they
already
they
did
a
kind
of
a
full
treatment
of
zadagosa
and
patty's,
asking
I've
seconded
a
motion
that
says
okay,
but
just
to
just
look
at
an
option
that
just
says
lighting
in
addition
to
the
one
where
it's
a
full
treatment,
so
that
if
we
decide
we're
not
going
to
spend
all
of
our
money.
G
G
A
We
have
been
focusing
on
the
discussion,
because
a
couple
of
people
had
said
focusing
on
salinas
to
convene
string
lighting
is
not
in
that
area.
So,
basically,
what
the
motion
does
carol
is
it
asks
we
already
have
an
estimate
on
the
budget
to
do
this
project
as
presented
by
able
city
now
patty's
saying:
okay,
take
the
sidewalk
out,
take
the
trees
out
and
just
tell
me
what
a
lighting
project
would
cost
for
this
area
here,
going
from
salinas
through
convent
to
florence,.
E
H
H
A
That's
a
good
idea,
thank
you!
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
reiterate
something
that
viviana
pointed
out
and
I'll
unload
it,
because
I
walked
it
with
viviana
when
when
we
were
working
with
with
tony
arsen
in
reviewing
this
area.
The
challenge
here
were
the
put
you
know:
the
poles
for
the
lights
and
the
string
lighting
and
the
alter.
A
What
we
see
here
is
probably
the
most
efficient
way
in
terms
of
lighting,
because
it
was
going
to
be
adding
more
lights,
more
poles
to
an
area
that
already
has
poles
and
more
strings
to
an
area
that
already
has
a
lot
of
wires
already
over
it.
So
this
was
a
nice
way
of
creating
a
canopy,
as
you
can
tell
through
the
picture
that
obstructs
and
obscures
the
just
horrible
look
of
the
wires
all
over
the
street
and
draws
your
attention
to
the
green
and
the
pretty
part
without
saying
look
at
all
the
wires
there.
A
Although
we
do
see
one
giant
pole
there
with
the
two
large,
I
don't
know
what
you
call
those
energy
packs
on
the
side
of
them,
but
you
know
transformers
transformers
there
you
go
so
I
think
you,
I
think
what
your
suggestion
able
city
goes,
meets
the
the
patty.
If
I'm
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
what
able
city
suggestion
still
needs,
what
you're
asking
for
right.
E
I
E
B
F
F
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
our
city
liaison
to
discuss
with
city
management,
our
potential
collaboration
to
deal
with
100
meter
and
sewer
sewer,
clean
outs
and
also
the
labor
potential
to
start
discussions
with
them
to
see,
if
that's
even
realistic,
to
work
with
them.
And
then
the
second
part
of
that
is
to
also
officially
request
that
we
work
towards
an
eda
grant
for
salinas
street.
A
C
A
A
A
D
D
But
as
a
clarification,
do
you
want
us
to
do
you
want
me
to
talk
to
management,
or
do
you
want
me
to
help
also
set
up
a
meeting
with
some
of
the
board
members
and
management?
I
think
that
would
be
more
effective
yeah.
I
think
if
I
would
help
maybe
set
up
a
meeting
so
that
not
quorum,
but
a
few
of
the
board
members
actually
meet
and
start
talking
with
management
on
these,
whatever.
A
A
So
for
I'll
ask
it
not
at
this
meeting,
but
if
you'll,
if
anybody
is
interested
in
serving
as
one
of
the
board
liaisons,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
collect
the
names
and
then
you
know
in
many
cases
we
don't
have
more
than
three
people-
volunteering
anyway
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
it
make
a
recommendation
that
those
people
be
on
the
the
liaison
committee.
But
please
send
me
your
request
to
be
on
the
committee
by
email
and
then
I
will
I'll.
Let
miss
martinez
know.
G
A
A
F
G
A
Okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
six
special
with
possible
action
regarding
the
monthly
invoice
to
be
submitted
by
able
city.
I
think
you
all
saw
that
gable
city
had
submitted
an
invoice
for
the
three
month
period,
ending
november,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
that
would
have
been
september
october
november.
Is
that
correct.
A
G
A
Content,
sir
okay,
so
as
the
with
the
first
invoice,
we
now
have
a
motion
that
we
accept
the
invoice
not
accept
the
invoice
that
the
invoice
has
been
pre
submitted
to
the
board
for
approval.
All
those
in
favor,
say:
aye,
aye,
all
right
supposed:
okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
paying
this
invoice
item;
seven
discussion
with
possible
action
related
to
the
turrs
area,
neighborhood,
empowerment
zone,
eligibility
and
potential
financial
implication
for
the
tour's
funding,
I'm
not
sure
who
brought
that
one
up.
I.
G
Basically,
at
one
of
the
council
meetings
council
asked
me
to
look
into.
Obviously,
when
I
came
over
to
to
building
the
nec
program
was
in
existence
and
the
and
most
recently
about
three
months
ago,
they
asked
me
to
kind
of
like
look
into
a
little
bit
more
details
to
see
how
we
could
improve
the
nazi
and
and
in
looking
at
those
improvements.
G
I
was
talking
to
mr
martinez
from
the
web
county
appraisal
district
and
looking
at
how
how
the
program
was
developed
and
some
of
the
the
the
the
details
of
the
programming,
how
it's
implemented
and
how
it
comes
off
and
everything,
and
but
one
of
the
things
he
suggested
to
me
when
we
were
talking.
He
said
I
don't
understand
why
the
ters
is
also
in
any
z
and
then
to
ask
him
to
elaborate
a
little
bit,
and
he
told
me
well
the
thing
that
it
kind
of
goes
against.
G
G
G
A
H
H
H
G
I
think
the
consultants
got
I
mean
I
don't
know
emotions
on
the
thing.
I
would
be
amenable
to
the
consultant
providing
sue
who's,
one
of
the
contractors
to
provide
us
an
analysis,
so
we
can
take
the
ca
to
the
city
to
make
that
determination,
yeah,
because
this
is
a
recommendation
coming
in
from
our
web
to
me
like
it
makes
no
sense
and
and
and
hers
and
our
duty
as
tours
members
is
to
to
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
get
that
money,
basically
to
be
able
to
spend
it.
G
B
It's
so
worth
noting
very
quickly
that
the
inez
program
for
the
city
has
been
largely
ineffective.
It's
too
wide
a
program.
It
applies
to
too
large
an
area
most
of
the
time
it's
used,
as,
as
you
know,
they
were
going
to
do
it
anyway
and
they'll.
Just
sure
you're
going
to
give
me
my
money
back
I'll,
take
some
money
back,
but
it's
not
really
incentivizing
development
that
otherwise
would
not
have
occurred,
which
would
be
the
real
power
of
enemy
z
if
it
were
used
now,
the
terz
is
also
a
form
of
of
a
incentive.
B
B
A
Yes,
so
anyway,
more
information
is
welcome,
so
that
the
board
can
move
decide
on
how
they're
gonna
move
forward
with
this,
because
I,
but
basically
what
just.
If
I
understand
the
motion
correctly,
the
motion
is
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
see
what
the
count
is
what's
been
referred
to
here
and
the
conflict.
The
potential
conflict
has
seen.
Is
that
correct
after
and
basically
deciding
how
we're
going
to
how
we're
going
to
address
this.
B
I'll
I'll
send
an
email
out
to
y'all
with
some
information.
I
was
actually
looking
this
up,
because
this
is
an
interesting
situation
that
reminded
me
of
something
in
the
state
requirements.
If
I'm
reading
this
right
now,
we
we
also
want
sue
to
weigh
in
that's
kind
of
sure,
she's
seen
it
before,
but
the
language
is
pretty
simple
according
to
the
state
and
what
I'm
seeing
right,
we
abatement
programs
in
a
ters
should
only
be
allowed
at
the
discretion
of
the
board
of
the
turf
members.
B
In
other
words,
it
is
the
determination
of
this
board
or
not.
We
allow
an
abatement.
So
if
we
decide
not
to
have
an
abatement,
it's
not
actually
a
decision
of
city
council.
It's
a
decision
of
this
board
whether
or
not
to
allow
an
abatement
so
I'll,
send
that
out.
Look
at
the
language,
but
in
other
words
it's
not
a
motion.
We
need
to
take
city
council,
it's
something
as
a
board
we
decide.
Are
we
going
to
exempt
the
abatement?
B
A
H
The
point
that
I
was
trying
to
make
and
that
is
that
the
board
itself
would
have
the
opportunity
to
tell
the
applicant
hey.
Do
you
want?
Do
you
want
us
to
participate
with
you
on
the
bottom
line,
or
do
you
want
us
to
obey
to
let
you
obey
and
and
nine
times
out
of
ten?
They
choose
the
participation
of
the
terrors.
C
A
A
All
those
in
favor
of
support
of
this
motion,
say
aye
same
sign
motion
carries
thank
you,
mr
garcia,
for
bringing
that
that
to
our
attention.
I
I
think,
if,
if
at
the
very
least,
it'll
educate
us
on
the
subject
that
we
need
a
little
bit
of
education
on
as
a
board
and
bring
us
familiarizes
with
neighborhood
empowerment
zones
as
well.
A
A
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
requested
that
the
very
first
meeting
in
january-
no
it
is
the
second.
It
is
the
second
tuesday,
okay
yeah.
What
was
this?
Okay?
Sorry
excuse.
My
rambling.
I
now
remember
what
I
was.
What
I
was
thinking
so
in
front
of
you.
You
had
the
screen.
You
have
the
the
post
meeting
dates.
A
A
G
D
So
right
now
you
have
january
12,
which
is
a
tuesday.
If
you
would
leave
it,
move
it
to
the
second
january
19th.
That's
actually
a
council
meeting
date
because
we
actually
that's
our
first
meeting
of
the
month
of
the
year.
Sorry,
the
first
meeting
is
going
to
be
on
a
tuesday
january
19th
at
the
council
meeting
at
5
30..
Now
I
I
understand
the
the
church
meeting
is
at
2
30,
but
I
don't
know
being
that.
There's.
G
G
G
A
I
like,
where
you
were
going
with
this
the
first
time
I
like
the
idea
of
the
meeting
being
on
the
26th
and
then
asking
able
city
to
do
the
heavy
lift
in
that,
because
you
know
sometimes
going
from
month
to
month,
seems
like
a
long
time
and
do
the
heavy
lift
to
be
ready
by
the
9th
of
february,
which
is
the
first
tuesday
of
the
month
in
order
to
continue
with
the
project.
So
we
don't
lose
the
momentum
that
we
have.
Okay.
Is
that
reasonable
able
city?
Yes,
yeah?
A
A
A
A
The
accomplishment
was
a
lot
of
do
this
to
that
and
able
city,
I
think
that's
a
testament
to
the
presentation
that
we
received
ahead
of
time.
I'm
going
to
reiterate
the
fact
that
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
meet
before
the
meeting,
just
as
we
did
this
last
time
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
so
that
when
we
get
this
a
week
ahead
of
time,
it's
what
the
board
wants,
you
know
can
start
reviewing
and
make
decisions
on.