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Transportation and Traffic Safety Advisory Committee Meeting 051221
B
D
E
Hi
everybody
thank
you
all
for
having
us.
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
summary
of
what
we
discussed
at
our
previous
meeting.
We
met
last
week,
the
small
advisory
group
that
we
put
together
and
a
couple
of
stakeholders
from
downtown
as
well
and
basically
what
we
discussed.
There
was
a
recap
of
the
10
recommendations
that
were
made
within
the
downtown
parking
study,
and
we
just
got
ourselves
familiarized
with
what
the
this
advisory
group
is
supposed
to
do,
what
their
function
is
and
then
what
we
decided
from
there
is
we're.
E
What
we're
the
next
step
that
we're
going
to
take
is
doing
a
down
a
meeting
with
our
stakeholders,
reviewing
the
10
recommendations
and
then
from
there
presenting
something
to
this
committee
shortly.
So
I'm
hoping
by
the
next
meeting
we'll
have
something
to
present
to
you
guys
with
the
feedback
of
those
stakeholders.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mrs
iglesias.
For
the
group.
I
believe
some
committee
members
were
not
present.
Last
week
from
our
committee.
It
was
mr
gonzalez
miss
karen
laithan
and
I
believe
mr
dickey,
that
decided
to
serve
on
the
on
the
downtown
parking
subcommittee.
Any
comments
or
questions
concerns
from
any
committee
members.
F
F
F
Anyways-
and
I
think
we
kind
of
thought
it'd
be
a
good
idea.
This
has
not
been
adopted,
I
mean
it
was
done
and
I
think
the
city
is
supposed
to
adopt
it
and
adopting
this
study,
which
was
completed
in
2019,
of
which
I
know
a
little
bit
about
and
and
the
city
is
supposed
to
appoint
an
advisory
committee
of
the
downtown
stakeholders
and
and
then
they
bring
stuff,
I
guess
to
us
and
and
then
we'll
take
it
to
the
city
or
they
take
it
directly
to
the
city.
F
I
don't
see
exactly
how
this
subcommittee
is
going
to
work,
but
there's
supposed
to
be
a
a
subcommittee
of
the
stakeholders,
and
I
my
that
to
me
means
merchants,
downtown
hotel,
the
arts,
all
everybody
involved
with
downtown
and
and
then
we
can.
I
think
we
need
to
make
you
know
institute
this
go
ahead.
E
Yes,
sir
yeah
you're
correct,
so
we
went
ahead
when
what
the
advisory
group
is
is
set
up
for
is
to
bring
in
the
stakeholders
before
the
city
makes
any
decisions
on
any
of
the
recommendations.
That
way,
we
know
that
the
decisions
that
are
being
that
will
be
implemented
already.
Have
you
know
all
the
feedback
that
you
know
a
business
owner
or
stakeholder
might
have
regarding
that
specific
recommendation?
E
You
know
whatever
recommendations
they
wish
to
do
so,
but
having
the
the
stakeholders
feedback
beforehand
before
and
then
you
know
what
we
wouldn't
want
to
do
is
go
before
city
council
have
them
adopt
something,
and
then
the
stakeholders,
you
know,
have
issues
concerns
and
then
we
have
to
go
back
and
change
all
the
language
and
do
all
that.
So
that's
kind
of
what
we're
wanting
to
avoid
with
the
advisory
group.
I
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
what
the
position
was
for
for
this
group.
F
You
know
taking
what
everybody
said
and
then
and
studying,
and
that's
how
they
came
up
with
this.
I
mean,
I
think
that
I
don't
know
I'm
under
the
impression,
because
there
are
downtown
people
a
lot
of
downtown
people.
I
made
almost
every
meeting,
so
I
think
unless
we've
got
new
stakeholders,
but
I
think
this
was
expressed
back
then
so,
okay,
I'll
shut
up
and
I'll.
Let
y'all
talk.
B
B
The
one
we're
on
right
now
has,
as
part
of
his
purview,
responsibility
or
part
of
his
charter
is
parking
already,
so
that
that's
that's
already
been
delegated
to
you
know
as
an
advisor
committed
by
a
city,
so
we
decided
to
to
just
form
this
subgroup
and
I'm
going
to
stop
using
the
word
subcommittee,
because
that
implies
that
we're
going
to
have
quorums
and
texas
open
meetings,
act,
meetings
and
stuff
like
that
to
but
the
whole
the
intent
was.
The
discussion
we
had
was
that
we
would
pick
individuals
from
the
group.
B
You
know
lessen
a
quorum
and
then
we
would
pick
some
individuals
from
from
the
public
or
interested
parties
and
that
that
way
they
could
meet
as
they
saw
fit,
and
the
intent
is
to
bring
back
those
ideas
to
this
group
that
would
vote
on
it,
and
then
you
I
would
take
that
to
council
with
our
recommendations.
That's
the
way
I
remember
to,
hopefully
you
can
correct
correct
me
if
I'm
not
remember
it
right,
but
that
was
the
intent.
D
A
Sir,
I
was
just
going
to
agree
with
you.
That's
exactly
what
the
way
I
understood
this
non-subcommittee
or
advisory
group
was
going
to
be
and
you're
right.
We
can't
call
it
a
committee
or
could
be
because
then
we
would
have
to
have
a
quorum
and
that's
why
we
were
going
to
change
its
name
or
just
call
it
an
advisory.
You
know
sub
advisory
group
or
something
like
that.
E
Yes,
sir,
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
it.
This
group
also
serves
as
kind
of
like
a
look.
What
we
can
do
with
this
group
is
also
have
a
look
back
period,
so
once
there
is
a
change
we
can
see,
you
know
after
three
months
or
so
90
days
how
those
changes
have
affected
the
downtown
business
and,
and
has
it
been?
Was
it
a
positive
change?
Was
it
a
negative
change
and
this
group
will
kind
of
just
keep
everybody
in
the
loop?
It
doesn't
need
to
be
adjusted.
E
A
How
many
opinion
we
need
to
put
an
end
date
on
this
and
now
we're
going
to
continue
having
these
meetings
and
meetings
and
we're
going
to
be
back
right
where
we
were
years
ago,
and
we
have
it
all
there
in
black
and
white.
I
think
missy
glasses,
if
I
know
you're
working
on
getting
an
agenda
going
or
an
invitation
to
the
downtown
downtown
merchants
stuff.
But
can
we
put
a
date
on
this,
so
we
could
also
start
planning
in
advance.
E
Yes,
of
course,
I
was
hoping
to
we
didn't
state
this
in
the
meeting
last
week,
which
I
I
should
have
you
know
wrote
asked
about
it
or
whatever,
but
I
think
that
I'm
hoping
to
see,
if
maybe
we
can
get
a
group
together
by
before
the
end,
you
know
the
end
of
the
month
or
something
and
then
maybe
by
the
next
meeting,
we
can
come
back
with
some
feedback
to
this
committee
and
then
say:
hey
look.
These
are.
This
is
all
the
feedback
you
know.
E
What
do
we
want
to
do
with
you
know
the
recommendations
and
then
from
there
this
committee
can
decide
how
they
want
to
move
forward
on
those
recommendations,
but
I'm
shooting,
for
you
know
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
so
that
before
this
next
meeting
with
this
committee,
we
can
have
something.
That's
my
timeline.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
are
okay
with
that.
E
B
Okay,
sorry
about
that
keep
forgetting.
I
do
want
to
add
something
about
putting
timelines
on
some
of
these
items.
Some
of
the
items
lend
themselves
to
do
that,
for
instance,
about
wayfinding
signs
and
the
app
you
know
those
have
logical
terminations
to
them,
but
some
of
the
recommendations
and
the
committee
can
handle
this
committee
can
handle
it
when
you
want
or
the
subgroup
is
they
wanted
to
see
about
monitoring
the
hours
and
how
much
money
we
were
taking
in
whether
it
was
worth
it
or
not.
B
That
kind
of
thing
you
know
that
could
be
an
ongoing
thing
or
you
can
just
say
we're
going
to
look
at
it
for
six
months
that
that's
up
to
you.
I
just
wanted
to
point
those
things
out
that
some
of
them
may
be
less
concrete
as
to
when
something's
finished.
You
know
the
app
will
know
when
it's
finished
signs
will
know
when
it's
finished.
That
kind
of
thing,
but
some
other
things
are
ongoing,
like
they
encouraged
us
to
convert
as
many
loading
zones
to
parking
meters
to
work
with
private
groups,
those
might
take
longer.
A
B
Really
it's
just
a
matter
of
businesses
moving
in
and
out,
you
know
we're
gonna
be
evaluating
them
all
the
time
you
know.
If
something
opens
up,
they
may
want
a
loading
zone,
it
would
remove
parking
meters
and
if
a
business
closed
down,
maybe
we
take
the
loading
zone
back.
That
kind
of
thing
got
you
understood.
A
E
F
Mr
dick,
you
have
a
comment,
we're
talking
about
loading
zones
and
this
is
very
sensitive
to
some
people
downtown
I've.
Always
when
we're
having
the
the
meetings
is
that
why
aren't
we
receiving
stuff
downtown
these
trucks
downtown
to
unload
after
working
hours?
Instead
of
you
know,
impeding
traffic
or
taking
loading
zones?
F
And
I
didn't
see
that
in
this
study
number
two-
it
does
talk
about
taking
some
some
parking
spaces
and
making
them
parallel
and-
and
I
couldn't
find
it
right
now-
but
there
is
a
so
that's
something
else
that
when
when
y'all
are
talking
we're
talking,
you're
gonna
get
a
definite
time.
Hey
well,
this
study
says
is
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
do
the
the
parallel
parking
now
you
know
where
we
can
have
more
room
for
for
people
to
park
and
then,
of
course,
the
loading
zones.
F
F
I
can
see
where
loading
and
unloading
zones
does
impede
traffic
and
you
know
I
know
that
there
was
a
push
back
from
some
of
the
and
it's
true
from
some
of
the
retail
stores
about
and
probably
the
freight
companies
but-
and
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
in
other
cities
they
do
it,
and
I
had
a
city
councilman
tell
me
many
years
ago:
oh
you,
like
censorship
place.
Why
don't
you
move
there?
Well,
I
live
here.
I've
been
here
72
years.
I
love
it.
F
B
C
B
Okay,
so
we
already
have
an
ordinance
on
that
now,
however,
in
an
effort
to
try
and
revitalize
downtown
we've
gotten
inquiries
from
businesses
that
want
to
come
downtown-
and
you
know
revitalization
downtown-
is
one
of
the
the
main
tenants
of
the
viva
la
raider
plan,
so
we're
trying
to
do
what
we
can
to
make
that
happen,
but
we've
gotten
instances
where
a
company
wants
to
relocate
downtown,
but
that
ordinance
prevents
them
from
doing
that
because
they
don't
control
the
deliveries
to
that.
You
know
to
that
store.
B
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
look
at
how
many
deliveries
and
where
they
are
at
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
maybe
we'll
look
at
a
special
permit.
We're
not
exactly
sure
how
we're
gonna
do
that,
but
we
do
need
to
make
some
allowances
for
that
kind
of
thing
where
the
company
that
has
a
store
doesn't
own
the
trucking
company
and
they
can't
control
the
times
the
goods
are
delivered.
So
we
we
do
need
to
be
a
little
bit
open-minded
about
that.
E
Yeah,
I
agree,
mr
e.
I
also
wanted
to
make
one
more
comment.
This
study
was
done
pre-covered,
so
we
do
have
to
see
what
how
that's
going
to
affect
businesses
now
curbside
has
picked
up.
You
know
allowing
for
opportunities
like
that
for
businesses
so
that
they
can
open
up.
You
know
either
longer
hours
or
or
what
have
you
you
know.
E
E
E
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
wanted
to
discuss
with
the
group
today
committee
the
current
ordinance
that
we
have
and
compare
and
contrast
that
to
how
other
cities
are
doing
their
speed,
humps
and
see
if
the
committee
has
any
recommendations
or
believe
it,
as
is,
I
have
a
presentation
to
get.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
not
equipped
here.
D
A
B
B
Okay,
that's
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
written
right
now
is
that
the
residents
are
the
ones
that
are
supposed
to
start.
This
whole
process,
75
of
the
residents
that
live
within
the
study
area,
which
is
defined
as
1100
feet,
need
to
be
in
support
of
the
of
this
proposed
speed
hub
so
that
that's
the
first
one,
okay,
the
second
one.
It
needs
to
be
located
in
a
strictly
residential
neighborhood
and
then
the
the
bigger
triangle
there
in
the
middle.
It
has
a
bunch
of
other
criteria.
B
For
instance,
it
can
only
be
on
a
local
street.
It
can't
be
a
collector
road.
It
can't
be
a
larger
street
like
that.
It's
gotta
have
between
greater
than
500
vehicles
a
day
and
less
than
three
thousand,
so
it's
not
meant
for
large
roads
that
have
a
lot
of
vehicles
on
it.
We're
supposed
to
supposed
to
do
a
speed
study
to
see
if
it
really
is
a
matter
of
speeding.
B
A
B
B
Ordinance,
you
can
look
into
it.
Thank
you,
sir
all
right
and
then
what
you're
seeing
now
is
the
second
half
of
the
ordinance
and
it's
it's
basically
labeled
as
a
special
provision,
because
that's
the
how
it
addresses
it,
and
this
is
where
the
city
council
can
initiate
a
request
for
a
speed,
hump.
Okay,
the
the
first
triangle
you
see
on
the
top
is
that
if
the
specific
hazard
really
exists,
in
other
words,
it
just
can't
be
because
somebody
wants
it.
B
The
next
trend
going
down
is
was
their
study
conducted
and
then
the
next
trend
going
down
it.
The
85th
percentile
speed,
needs
to
be
greater
than
30
miles
an
hour
street
length
greater
than
700
feet.
Does
police
and
fire
approve?
Have
there
been
at
least
one
accident
in
the
last
year
is?
Is
there
a
safety
hazard
that
can
be
identified?
B
C
B
Now
this
is
what
other
cities
are
doing
with
their
ordinances,
and
I
guess
I'm
using
the
wrong
word
there,
because
the
cities
that
we
looked
into,
not
that
we
looked
into
every
texas
city,
but
we
looked
at
san
antonio
austin
corpus
dallas
and
some
of
the
other
cities
is
no
other
city
has
ordinances
for
speed.
Ups
they're
all
done
by
policy.
B
You
know
which
it's
it's
it's
you
know
in
a
manual
somewhere
as
part
of
the
trend.
You
know
the
traffic
section
policies
or
things
like
that,
so
it
doesn't
go
to
council,
okay,
and
I-
and
I
can
read
through
these
if
you
want,
but
it
basically
that's
what
the
whole
thing
is
about
is
that
they
basically
leave
it
up
to
the
traffic
section
or
the
engineer.
B
C
F
B
F
B
F
B
The
the
the
point
we're
really
trying
to
show
today
is
not
so
much
that
we're
doing
better
than
them.
It's
just
that
the
ordinance
that
we
have
now
of
how
we
think
it's
not
being
utilized
the
way
it
was
intended.
But
let
me
get
to
that
point.
Hopefully
I
I
can
get
to
it
and
let
me
know
if,
if
I
am
making
the
point.
B
These
are
the
things
that
we
have
in
common.
You
know
we
all
use
the
85th
percentile
speed
traffic
volumes
need
to
be
more
than
4
or
500
per
day.
The
lanes
to
the
street
are
very
similar.
The
fire
chief
and
police
chief
all
have
to
they
shouldn't
obstruct
emergency
vehicles.
You
know
if
it's
in
a
route
where
it's
close
to
hospital,
you
know
we
don't
want
those
things
where
ambulance
is
going
through,
must
be
residential
speed,
limit
of
30
miles
an
hour.
B
Most
of
the
time
speed
hump
is
approved
without
any
discussion
at
all,
and
there
there
are
times
where
a
citizen
will
send
their
comments,
saying
that
that
they
don't
want
a
speed
hunt
there
and
no
there's
no
discussion
on
that.
There's
no
mention
about
how
many
homeowners
wanted
the
speedcom
and
we
get.
We
get
a
lot
of
calls
here
in
the
traffic
department.
B
When
we
put
some
speed
hum
on
somebody's
street
and
said
well
who
put
this
here,
we
don't
want
it
and
sometimes
there'll
be
five.
Six
people
from
that
same
block,
calling
to
say
that
they
don't
want
to
speed
him
and
then
traffic
studies
and
data
are
not
being
used
to
support
that,
even
though
the
special
provision
does
originate
in
council,
but
it
still
says
that
a
study
has
to
be
conducted
and
we've
we've
gone
in
after
city
council
approves
speed
humps.
B
F
Why
isn't
the
city
council
list?
I
mean
this
is
their
own
law.
Here
I
mean
why
aren't
they
asking
the
fire
chief
and
police
chief
aren't
they?
I
mean
why
aren't
they
following
their
own
deal?
Why
I
mean
you
hit
a
great
point
because
you've
seen
you
do
your
study
and
you've
got
traffic
doing
28
miles
an
hour
dropping
humps
there.
D
B
B
I
I
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
sure
that
they
know,
because
it's
been
handled
like
this
for
a
while,
so
we
have
new
council
when
they
come
in
and
they're
probably
told
by
someone
else.
If
you
want
to
speed
hum,
just
put
it
on
the
agenda
and
it
gets
passed,
they
do
and
it's,
I
guess
a
little
funny
in
my
point
of
view
is
that
this,
the
current
speed,
hump
ordinance.
B
Okay,
it's
really
labeled.
Okay,
it's
a
speed
hub,
but
a
speed.
Hump
is
different
from
what
we're
using
right
now,
which
is
I'm
trying
to
find
that
the
exact
verbiage.
So
I
don't
want
to
lead
you
down
the
wrong
definition
here
we
used
to
have
speed,
cushions,
I'm
sure
you've
seen
those
out
there,
the
ones
that
have
their
their
rubber
and
they
leave
space
for
the
fire
trucks
to
go
over
them.
B
Okay,
that
was
the
original
installation.
Okay.
What
we're
doing
now
is
speed
humps,
where
it's
all
made
out
of
asphalt,
so
the
orig
the
ordinance.
The
way
it's
written
right
now
only
allows
the
the
speed
cushions,
so
they
will
say
we're
going
to
use
a
special
provision
and
we're
going
to
change
the
speed
cushion
to
a
speed
hump
from
the
one,
the
rubber
one
to
the
asphalt
one.
So
I
think
they're
trying
to
be
attentive
to
what
the
organ
says,
because
they're
making
a
point
out
of
that,
but
they're
not
following.
D
I
think
it
may
be
beneficial
and
I'm
just
maybe
sending
this
information
to
city
council
just
so
that
they
can
be
aware
of
the
requirements
that
are
currently
listed
on
the
ordinance,
I'm
not
sure
if
that'll
change
much
but
at
least
they
have
the
information.
Mr
dickie
go
ahead,
sir.
You
have
a
comment.
B
My
intent
here
today
is
to
show
you
the
ordinance
as
it
stands
and
then
you
are
their
representatives
and
if
you
see
it
their
way,
then
that's
fine.
If
you
see
it
my
way,
then
we
can
try
and
educate
them
about
what
it
should
be
doing
or
or
I
have
some
suggestions
about
which
we
can
do
with
the
ordinance.
Let
me.
B
Any
other
questions
all
right.
One
of
the
reasons
you're
probably
wondering
well,
what's
the
big
deal?
Why?
Why
are
we
talking
speed?
Humps?
You
know
if
we're
doing
two
a
year.
What's
the
big
deal
right,
but
we're
throughout
the
city
we're
fast
approaching
600
speed
humps
throughout
the
city,
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
few
pictures,
our
photos
in
a
few
minutes
of
how
that
affects
the
drivers
that
we
have
out
there,
but
I
first
I
wanted
to
put
some
some
dollar
signs
on.
B
This
is
every
speed
hub
to
install
cost
2500,
okay
and
a
lot
of
times
that's
coming
from
the
councilman's
district
money?
Okay,
on
top
of
that-
and
I'm
sure
you
can
appreciate
this-
is
a
speed
hub
needs
to
be
well
delineated,
well
striped
and
have
good
signs
on
it,
because
if
it's
at
night
that
asphalt
blends
into
the
other
asphalt-
and
you
don't
want
to
be
that
person-
you
know
driving
at
midnight
and
not
have
good
good
view
of
the
speed.
B
Hump
you'll
be
fine
over
that
thing,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
always
stripe,
etc.
Well,
we
put
some
preliminary
numbers
together,
just
ballpark
numbers,
but
we
think
it's
going
to
be
costing
us
about
300
000
every
year.
Just
to
do
half
of
them,
you
know
be
alternating
from
doing
them.
So
every
time
we
add
another
speed
hump,
it
increases
our
maintenance
costs
for
the
city,
okay,
and
just
to
put
in
perspective,
like
everything
else,
inflation.
B
Our
budget
doesn't
grow
very
much
with
it,
but
we
have
a
lot
more
subdivisions
we
have
to
patrol
and
and
inspect
for
striping
and
signs,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
every
little
thing
that
I
can
do
to
bring
down
that
maintenance
cost
is
something
that
helps
with
the
city.
In
my
opinion,
any
questions
on
these.
F
B
Okay,
let
me
let
me
go
to
another
one,
here's
another!
This
is
an
interesting
one.
You
know
you
guys
familiar
with
sanders
and
saunders
right,
different
streets.
Okay,
on
the
left
side,
you'll
see
a
little
red
box.
That's
that's
a
traffic
signal
us59
or
business
59.
Now
we
have
a
traffic
signal
there
on
the
right
side.
We
have
a
stop
sign.
B
B
Okay,
not
not
judging,
but
we
did
take
some
counts
on
this,
and
the
speed
was
very
low.
You
can't
imagine.
People
will
be
going
very
very
fast
when
you
have
a
traffic
signal
on
one
side
and
a
stop
sign
in
the
other
okay.
Moving
on
to
this
one,
this
is
on
sanders.
Also,
you
see
that
stop
sign
to
the
top
of
the
of
the
picture,
the
photo
so
we're
looking
at
150
feet
away
from
stop
sign
which
does
not
fit
the
court
current
ordinance.
B
B
B
B
B
They're
collectors-
and
these
are
some
suggestions
by
by
no
means
is
it
a
conclusive
list.
Just
some
things
we
came
up
with
the
first
one
would
be
just
to
be
like
every
other
city.
Let's
not
have
an
ordinance.
The
city
council
dictates
the
the
placement
of
speed
humps,
you
know
they
let
their
engineers
do
it.
Let
us
do
it,
and
then
we
do
our
studies
and
if
we
need
to
do
something
of
course,
we're
going
to
do
it.
B
That's
you
know,
as
our
ethics
as
engineers
is
to
do
the
right
thing,
so
that
would
be
one
one
option,
the
other
one.
The
other
option
is,
if
we
can't
get
rid
of
the
ordinance
is
to
either
remove
the
section
that
we
call
the
special
provision
or
change
it
or
at
least
make
it
better
known
and
finally
is
to
add
clauses
that
the
city
manager
or
the
traffic
engineer
installs
the
speed
homes.
D
D
B
And-
and
my
point
is
you
know
whether
I'm
the
traffic
engineer
or
somebody
else's,
is
that
you
know
we
rely
on
on
studies,
mutcd
and
those
kind
of
things
to
determine
where
these
things
get
placed?
You
know
that
it's
you
know
it's
a
matter
of
driver
expectancy
and
what
really,
I
guess
threw
me
for
luke
when
I
first
got
here
was
that
we
had
an
ordinance
specifically
for
speed
humps,
but
we
don't
want
to.
B
F
Mr
dickey
go
ahead,
sir.
I
I
I
would
like
to
comment
number
one.
It
seems
like
we've
got
what
eight
different
fiefdoms
and
they're
as
they're
getting
what
they
want.
We
should
do
what
mr
mcgee
thinks
is
best,
because
I
mean
he's
a
traffic
engineer
and
and
make
and
make
it
policy
not
an
ordinance,
because
you
know
you
can-
and
I
hate
to
say,
but
I'm
born
and
raised
here.
I
don't
care
and
I've
seen
it.
You
know
here
vote
for
me.
F
A
Sir,
just
just
a
question
here,
mr
mcgee,
so
so
when
you
do
your
studies,
even
though
you're
given
the
instructions
to
to
proceed
and
put
a
speed,
bump
or
speed
up,
what
are
those
studies
doing?
Are
they
being
presented
to
city,
council
or
they're?
Just
for
your
benefit
about
their
benefit,
I
mean:
do
they
take
action
based
off
your
opinion
of
that
study?
Well,.
B
I
would
attend
city
council
meeting
and
they're
going
to
approve
this
item
and
they'll
group
it
up
with
10
other
10
others,
and
I
could
raise
my
hand
and
that's
the
best
I
could
do,
and
but
if
council
wants
to
approve
all
these
at
one
time,
that
they'll
do
that,
as
as
the
meetings
went
virtual,
that
became
almost
even
impossible
because
it's
hard
to
raise
your
hand.
You
know
the
virtual
way
having
so
many
so
it's
it's.
B
There
really
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
opportunity
to
comment
on
these.
I've
taken
the
liberty
of
of
getting
these
studies
done,
even
though
it
costs
money
and
effort
just
so
to
show
that
at
least
myself
and
any
anybody
wants
to
see
it
that
a
lot
of
these
are
not
necessarily
needed,
as
opposed
to
someone's
perception,
because
they
saw
one
guy
at
10
30
at
night,
flying
down
the
road
and
to
them
that's
a
lot
of
cars
and
that
kind
of
thing.
A
Appreciated
the
study,
I
think
it's
clear
of
these
the
studies
or
what
she
presented
here.
It's
clear
that
most
of
those
were
not
needed
in
those
areas.
I'm
not
saying
a
lot
of
them
were,
but
they
are
not
following
guidelines
and
two
so
on
the
follow-up
question
for
this
is
so
right
now
each
individual
city
council
pays
for
the
speed,
pumps
or
speed
homes
in
their
district.
If
this
is
removed
from
them,
where
would
this
be
funded
from
still
from
their
district?
A
B
The
original
intent
of
the
ordinance
is
that
the
citizens
put
the
money
together.
You
know
there
was
75
percent
of
citizens
had
to
sign
sign
a
petition
until
75.
If
they
felt
very
strongly
about
it,
you
know
they
would
all
pony
up.
You
know
maybe
100
200
each
and
then
it
get
built,
because
I
do
get
a
lot
of
calls
and
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
saying
I
don't
want
it.
B
You
know
and
I'm
assuming
it's
it's
one
person
or
two
people
that
ask
for
it
and
it's
their
word
is
taken
that
it
is
a
problem
and
that's
the
reason
I
go
out
and
do
those
studies.
But
I'm
sure
there
are
a
lot
of
streets
that
do
need
speed
humps,
but
they
should
be
based
on
actual
data
and
not
just
somebody
saw
somebody
flying
down
the
street.
B
D
B
F
D,
go
ahead,
sir.
You
have
a
comment:
oh
I'll
make
a
motion
to
remove
the
ordinance
out
from
the
court
of
ordinances
and
and
make
it
a
speed,
bump
policy,
and
in
that
that
a
and
in
that
that
mr
mcgee
and
take
charge
of
that
and
with
the
approval
of
the
city,
foreign
police
chiefs
period.
That's
my
motion.
F
B
B
You
guys
grill
me
pretty
good
about
some
of
these
things,
so
I
need
to
be
prepared,
but
I
take
this
presentation
to
them
and
I
present
it
the
same
way
I
did
to
you
and
then
they
can
decide
for
themselves,
and
I
can
tell
them
it
was
presented
to
your
advisory
committee
and
your
advisory
committee
voted.
Does
something.
G
G
Yes,
I
believe
that
all
speed
hum
should
be
looked
at
in
a
data
oriented
traffic
oriented
situation,
but
I
still
think
that
they
would
would
require
approval
from
the
council
because
they
represent
those
within
their
district
and
if
it
would
be
the
burden
of
proof
on
the
traffic
engineer,
to
bring
forward
the
agenda
to
the
city
council
and
say
we
we
would
like.
You
know,
we've
looked
at
the
data
and
we
believe
that
this
is
the
right
location
for
the
speed
home,
and
then
the
city
council
say
well
based
on
that
data.
G
We
would
support
that
that
location
and
I
think
it
would
be
bad
of
this
city
council
to
go
against
what
the
data
shows
and,
if
there's
an
accident,
they
would
likely
be
held
responsible.
So
I
think
we
need
to
to
tread
lightly
in
some
regards
push
forward,
and
I
guess
I'm
still
in
agreement
with
the
that
the
traffic
department
should
manage
the
the
speed
humps.
And
if
a
council
member
comes
forward
and
says,
I
need
to
speed
up
here
and
the
data
doesn't
support
it.
F
Mr
dixon
you've
made
a
very
good
point,
but
I
think
maybe
this
would
take
the
the
onus
off
the
the
councilman.
But
you
know
because
he'll
have
his,
you
know
I
need
it
here
and
I
need
and
then
so
he
feels
like
he
has
to
where
all
of
a
sudden
it's
taken,
you
know
open,
we
don't
have
that
ordinance
anymore
and
we
have
a
department
head
and,
and
we
we've
got
to
and
he
he'll
study
it
and
I'll
call
that
department,
head
and
I'll
tell
hey.
You
need
to
study
it.
F
G
And
I
I
take
that,
and
I
agree
with
it
and
like
I
said
that
it
should
be
related
to
what
the
traffic
engineer
determines
as
the
data.
Although
I
do,
I
do
express
some
concern
as
well
as
a
obviously
as
a
resident.
If
a
speedup
is
installed
in
my
area,
and
you
know,
I
wasn't
informed
that
it
was
coming.
G
I
wasn't
educated
as
to
why
I
might
be
opposed
to
wanting
to
see
it
and-
and
I
I
don't
have
any
problems
with
the
way
the
traffic
is
now,
but
someone
would
just
have
to
show
me
that
look.
This
is
the
reason
why
and
then
that's
where
it
takes
the
owner.
So,
like
I
agree
with
you,
mr
dickie
takes
the
onus
off
of
the
council
and
and
puts
it
more
into
data
form
to
present
to
constituents
and
to
the
city
council.
C
B
Yeah
jeff,
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
I
know
you're
very,
very
aware
of
whether
pnz
works
it
is.
You
know
there
are
certain
things
that
I'm
I'm
sure
it's
required
by
law,
but
this
is
an
example
that
when
they're
gonna
do
a
zone,
change
or
sup,
or
something
like
that,
they're
obligated
to
contact
all
the
neighbors
within
a
certain
distance
and
let
them
know
and
give
them
a
chance
to
to
give
their
opinion
on
whether
they
want
this
thing,
because
it's
going
to
affect
them
every
day,
which
is
what
I
believe.
G
That
needs
to
be
in
the
policy.
I
agree
with
the
fact
you
get
it
out
of
an
ordinance
but
place
it
in
a
policy
and
have
that
requirement
in
the
policy.
So
maybe
we
do
keep
some.
You
know
distill,
the
75
percent
have
to
be
in
favor
of
it
within
the
policy
or
you
know
some
higher
number
or
something
like
that
just
to
to
go
with
something
like
that
or
lower
number,
whatever
you
feel
appropriate.
D
B
The
other
would
be
to
to
present
this
and
especially
special
provision
to
explain
it
better
to
make
them
aware
and
that
you
guys
agree
that
that's
the
way
it
should
be
used
is
that
it's
not
just
put
an
address
and
let's
build
it
as
opposed
to
the
this
council
can
ask
for
it,
but
after
your
study
is
done,
that
the
other
provisions
are
enforced.
Well,
I.
B
D
A
F
Just
upon
a
discussion,
I
think
that,
even
if
we
go
when
we
go
to
our
we're
entrusted
in
this
position
to
make
decisions
right
for
our
councilmen,
if
we
go
to
them,
are
they
going
to
be
afraid
to
say?
Well,
I
you
know
no
or
they
want
to
keep
that
power.
Oh
yes,
I'll
get
you
whatever!
You
want.
That's
just
a
thought.
If
you
all
think
that
the
consensus
is
here
that
I
should
withdraw
my
my
motion,
I
will
but
those
are
my
thoughts,
but
I'm
I'm
pretty
assertive.
G
In
my
opinion,
it's
always
good
to
go
to
your
councilman
with
items
such
as
this
that
affect
him
directly
and
how
his
constituents
view
his
decision-making.
So
I
I
would
be
inclined
to
to
want
to
table
it
as
well.
Although
I've
already
spoken
with
my
council
member
on
this
subject
and
he's
in
support
of
what
we're
wanting
to
do.
D
D
B
B
These
are
only
like
three
or
four
slides,
so
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
leave
it
in
that
view,
if
you
don't
mind,
can
you
guys
see
the
screen?
Yes,
okay.
This
is
a
subject
that
comes
up
very
very
frequently
and
I'm
not
really
sure,
there's
a
good
solution.
Honestly,
I'm
just
bringing
this
up
to
see
how
you
guys
feel
about
it
truck
parking
city.
You
know
the
laredo
lives
and
dies
on
on
trucks
and
to
try
and
do
a
whole
lot
about
it.
It
affects
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
commerce.
B
B
You
know
they're
parking
off
the
road
on
the
road
tractors,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
that
first
ordinance
that
we
have
it
says
truck
parking
on
residential
street
and
private
property
is
unlawful,
so
it
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
person
owning
or
having
control
of
any
truck
to
stop
stand
or
park
the
same
on
any
public
street
adjacent
to
residential
lot,
which
is
zone
r1
or
r1a
rs
or
r1
mh.
Okay.
So
this
one
specifically
prohibits
anybody
from
taking
their
tractor
home
and
parking
outside
their
house,
and
we
get
a
lot
of
that.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
you
could
say
well,
our
ordinances
are
very
simple
right,
they're
all
there,
but
the
situation
is
so
spread
widespread
and
pervasive
that
where
do
we
start?
Where
do
we
stop?
I
get
calls
that
there's
a
truck
parked
on
a
major
street.
Well,
there's
20
other
major
streets
that
have
the
same
kind
of
parking.
B
B
B
B
B
Well,
for
years
and
years
are
the
parking
officers
that
are
under
the
traffic
department,
we
were
concentrating
all
our
efforts
downtown
the
parking
meters.
That's
when
things
were
good,
you
know,
so
we
had.
We
had
enough
to
keep
our
officers
as
to
why
the
police
weren't,
I
don't
know,
I'm
I'm
sure
that
they
have
other
duties
and
tasks
to
keep
them
away
from
this.
B
Possibly
I'm
kind
of
guessing
and
the
same
thing
is
that
you
know
I'm
not
sure
the
political
will
is
that
we
remove
all
these
or
not,
and
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we're
gonna
and
allow
them
to
be
somewhere
else,
then
don't
complain
about
where
they're
everywhere
else,
so
I'm
kind
of
stuck
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
on
this.
I'm
looking
for
some
help,
some
guidance,
some
opinions.
B
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
is
the
residential
ordinance
that
that
one,
our
parking
officers
know
that
that
that
one
is
a
you
know,
is
a
no-brainer
we're
going
to
give
tickets
to
that,
no
matter
what
no
warnings
they're
not
supposed
to
be
there
and
they
know
it.
So
that's
being
done
we're
we're
kind
of
you
know
easing
up
to
the
bigger
problem,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
streets
where
it's
just
wall-to-wall
trucks.
B
I'll
give
you
a
good
example
is:
is
anyone
familiar
with
riverbank
road
where
it
comes
off
of
kilum
and
goes
down
to
luke
20.?
Yes,
sir?
Okay,
we
just
finished
restriping
that
a
few
months
ago,
because
previously
they
had
removed
all
the
truck
parking
on
the
street,
so
we
went
back
and
created
some
some
truck
parking,
even
though
the
ordinance
says
you're
not
supposed
to
be
there
and,
like
I
said
it,
it
affects
the
city's
bottom
dollar
and
we
just
don't
have
a
good
solution
smarter
than
people
me.
B
A
I
I
was
just
going
to
say
I
think,
there's
two
different
issues
we're
talking
about
here.
You
have
the
owner
operators
who
live
here
and
need
to
park
their
truck
at
their
homes
or
their
place
of
residence,
and
then
what
you're
talking
about
on
the
river
banks?
That's
your
actual
business
owners
that
these
freight
forwarding
companies
and
trucking
companies,
so
we
tackled
one
at
a
time.
I
totally
agree-
and
I
was
going
to
mention
to
you:
if
can
we
or
is
there
room
anywhere?
A
B
C
A
B
We
need
more
than
one
super
parking
lot
in
the
north
side
of
the
town
and
where
would
that
be,
and
then
we
get
into
areas
of
environmental
concerns
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
it
opens
up
a
big
pandora's
box.
Also
so
like
I
said
this
is
a
very
big
problem,
but
it's
the
city's
bread
and
butter.
You
know
the
trucking,
so
we
can't
do
too
much
that
affects
them,
but
we
just
want
to
get
a
handle
on
it,
because
safety
and
operation.
F
B
I
really
think
this
problem
is
is
so
it's
so
delicate
so
complicated
that
it's
I'm
not
sure
we
can
come
up
with
a
solution
that
really
works.
Well,
we
all
have
good
ideas
and
for
every
idea
we
come
up
with
is
going
to
be
a
pedal.
You
know,
but
I
think
we
probably
need
to
study,
and
but
it's
kind
of
hard
for
anybody
to
point
to
any
anywhere
else
that
has
our
trucks.
B
A
B
Well,
unfortunately,
the
reason
I
brought
this
this
challenge
to
you,
I'm
not
gonna
call
our
problems
challenges
whenever
we
do
anything
in
engineering.
You
know
you
come
up
with
different
scenarios,
but
the
one
you
always
always
include
is
the
do
nothing
leave
it
alone
and
sometimes
in
traffic.
That's
the
easier
solution
is
just
to
leave
it
alone.
F
It
is
complicated,
but
sometimes
it's
not
fair
for
somebody's
neighbor
for
a
guy
come
park,
his
big
truck.
You
know
next
to
him,
because
it
does.
I
mean
why
don't
we
do
this?
Those
big
warehouse
owners
with
you
know,
let's
let
them
park
a
truck
there
in
front
of
their
house
over
in
plantation
or
you
know.
Oh
yes,
I
mean
you
know,
but
hey
don't
come
near.
My
house.
G
B
I
made
this
comment
earlier
and
I'll
just
bring
it
up
again,
just
as
a
reminder,
but
that
you
know
solutions
have
come
up
and
then
but
I'll
get
this
always
from
the
bigger
companies
that
bought
all
the
land
that
says
hey.
I
spent
a
lot
of
that
money,
getting
parking
for
my
trucks
and
then
for
someone
else
to
use
the
city
right
away
as
their
parking
lots,
and
they
don't
feel.
That's
fair,
of
course,.
A
B
G
So
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
with
it.
If,
if
we're
going
to
have
to
solve
the
situation,
maybe
we
need
to
build
up
the
revenue
to
solve
the
situation.
The
situation
is
to
provide
public
parking
for
the
the
owner
operators
in
a
park
and
ride
type
of
situation.
We
need
to
build
the
facility
to
build
the
facility.
B
Remember
earlier
I
mentioned
about
you
know:
we
do
one
thing
and
then
something
else
comes
up.
We
started
enforcing
a
lot
of
of
the
current
parking
regulations,
I'm
talking
cars
and
trucks
in
the
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
we
were
doing
that
a
lot
and
then
we
get
accused
of
being
too
aggressive,
because
then
the
citizens
start
calling,
and
so
that's
the
other
part
of
it.
A
B
G
I'm
kind
of
liking
personally,
I'm
kind
of
liking
it.
You
know
the
re-evaluation
of
the
traffic
fine
schedule
and
then,
in
accordance
with
the
do
nothing
situation,
I
mean
we
just
increase
the
fines.
We
we
start
not
overly
enforcing
it,
but
you
know
getting
it
out
there
and
and
then
maybe
the
problem
starts
to
dissolve
over
time
as
opposed
to
needing
to
directly
figure
out
a
solution.
G
B
D
D
That
sounds
like
a
plan.
Thank
you.
Any
more
discussion
concerns
questions.
Regarding
item
number,
six
tractor
trader
parking
in
the
city,
all
right.
Moving
on
item
number:
seven,
we
don't
have
anything
item
number
eight
open
discussion.
I
don't
believe
we
have
anything
either
unless
committee
members
did
you
all
have
any
any
items
that
you
want
to
bring
up
or
any
discussion.
D
D
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
meeting,
a
motion
by
mr
dickey
to
adjourn
second,
second,
second,
second
by
mr
gonzalez,
all
in
favor,
please
say
I
or
raise
your
raise
your
your
hand.
I
I
I
opposed
all
right
motion
carries
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcgee,
to
your
staff.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us.
This
is
the
second
meeting
that
we
have
quorum.
Hopefully
we
can.
We
can
continue
with
with
these
meetings.
So
we'll
see
you
all.