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B
C
A
D
A
A
All
right
any
comments
or
discussion
all
right,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
all
opposed.
Thank
you
all
right,
Brian.
We
have
a
couple
of
adjustments
today,
I'd
like
to
invite
Brian
Jackson
up
or
superintendent.
A
D
E
F
But
the
first
claim
is
at
602
West
4th
Street
for
James
Dumas
Susan
hindrance
here
to
represent
him
and
I'll
invite
her
up
right
now.
B
A
A
G
A
Okay
and
Brian,
what
we're
considering
here
is
an
adjustment
for
1169
dollars,
correct,
correct
and
you've
reviewed
that
and
the
work.
Okay,
you
make
recommendation,
approve
it.
Okay!
Thank
you!
Lord!
You
have
any
questions.
F
D
A
Done
with
one
of
our
radio,
that
means
that
get
the
transmitters
on
it
meter
good
deal
I'll
second
Carl's
motion,
any
discussion,
comments
or
questions
on
Fair,
please
say.
G
A
So
we
have
another
request
for
an
adjustment
due
to
a
water
leak
and
the
amount
of
and
the
adjustment
would
be
3283.85
at
831
East,
Main,
Street,
correct
I
just
want
to
describe
just
for
the
board.
I
guess
the.
D
A
Okay,
Brian,
do
you
have
anything
else
to
add
relative
to
the
request
for
the
adjustment,
and
this
is
the
adjustment
and
just
to
clarify
for
everybody.
What
we're
adjusting
here
is
is
the
the
sewer
bill
that
would
have
been
attached
automatically
to
the
water,
but
the
water
cost
is
still
being
paid
for
correct.
Okay,
yeah,
okay,.
D
A
A
Okay,
all
right
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
take
any
action,
since
it's
still
table
we're
just
not
taking
it
off
the
table
and
moving
on.
We
have
some
good
news
to
share
with
the
community
with
regards
to
our
water
project
right.
F
We
have
several
things
that
we
need
to
present
and
approve
to
keep
moving
forward
with
the
Water
Project,
the
first
of
which
is
the
limited
notice
to
proceed
number
three
for
Commonwealth
Engineers.
These
costs
were
built
into
the
project
budget
and
the
last
items
in
the
contracts
which
have
not
been
authorized.
I've
got
Riley
Duffy
here.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
basically,
the
The
Limited
notice
to
proceed.
F
Number
three
is
authorizing
the
construction
engineering,
the
inspection,
the
post-construction,
the
record
drawings
and
the
startup
assistance
and
the
and
the
American
Style
Iron
and
Steel
Act,
and
the
financial
and
legal
assistance
and,
like
I,
said
these
costs
are
already
built
into
it
into
our
project.
This
is
just
the
last
portion.
This
will
be
the
final
notice
to
proceed
for
Commonwealth.
H
F
H
A
Doing-
and
this
is
the
so,
the
draw
process
for
these
amounts
are:
are
the
monthly
draws
over
the
course
of
the
construction?
Yes,.
F
A
Excuse
me
I'll,
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
limited
notice
to
proceed
number
three
with
Commonwealth
engineering.
A
F
The
next
item
on
the
list,
I
think
we
can
do
them
all
the
the
formal
notice
of
award
for
the
three
divisions
I
think
I
can
just
present
them
all.
We
can
improve
them
all
three
at
once
right
and
then
we'll
do
the
same
thing
for
the
notice
to
proceed.
Joe.
Does
that
sound
good?
We'll
do
two
separate
the
notice,
the
formal
notice
of
award
for
the
three
divisions.
Division
A
is
for
the
supply
and
treatment
improvements
and
it
was
to
Dave
O'mara
contractor
division.
F
D
Got
it
we're
going
to
approve
the
the
waiver
standards
for
that
project?
Also.
A
We'll
take
this:
take
this
action
in
two
parts:
approve
notice
of
award
for
all
three
divisions,
as
Brian
had
spelled
out
so
I'll
make
that
motion.
A
Division,
a
it
for
the
supply
and
treatment
improvements
in
the
amount
of
four
million
five
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
division.
B
is
for
storage,
tank
Rehabilitation
and
the
amount
of
one
million
607
500
and
division.
Three,
it's
for
the
water
main
Replacements
at
four
million,
eight
hundred
thirty
seven
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
five
dollars
can
I
add
a
motion
in
a
second
any
additional
comments,
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say.
B
B
A
F
Now
now
the
last
thing
is
what
Carl
referred
to
earlier
is
the
the
srpc
Professional
Services
agreement
for
the
labor
labor
standards
administrator
for
sirpc.
They
also
attended
the
pre-construction
meeting
and
it
lays
out
the
them
as
our
labor
standards
administrator
and
it
needs
to
be
approved
also,
and
their
total
cost
for
these
services
will
be
sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
I.
A
Will
tell
you
I
was
very
happy
to
see
this,
because
what
you're
doing
is
very
technical
and
there's
lots
of
regulations
attached
to
the
financing
from
the
state
revolving
Loan,
Fund,
so
yeah.
F
F
A
Was
does
it?
Is
it
just
for
payroll
only
what
about
the
purchase
or
or
compliance
with
the
U.S
steel
Provisions.
F
A
Okay,
okay,
so
that's!
Basically,
this
is
all
labor
standards.
This
is
all
labor
standards.
Okay,
well
I
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
professional
Services
agreement
for
labor
standards,
Administration
between
city
of
Madison,
Water
Department
in
Southeastern,
Indiana,
Regional,
Planning
Commission,
in
the
amount
of
Sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
A
F
Soon,
as
the
utilities
get
relocated,
I
think
Duke's,
finished
I
believe
they're
waiting
on
Frontiers
to
do
the
next.
This
is
separate
from
it.
This
is
an
end
on
Project
yeah.
This
is
separate
from
our
water
project,
but
yes,
once
all
the
utilities
were
relocated,
they're
hoping
to
have
I
think
the
the
final
utilities
are
located
relocated
by
the
beginning
of
February.
F
We
have
a
meeting
every
couple
weeks
on
that,
okay
and
as
of
now,
that
all
utilities
have
not
been
relocated,
but
Frontier
I
believe
is
the
last
one
and
as
long
as
they
get
theirs
moved
and
that's
an
omera
project,
also,
okay
or
in
dot
very
good.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
Brian.
Can
you
build
a
good
work
and
speaking
of
Duke,
what
a
great
segue
and
I'd
like
to
ask
Tony
Steiner
to
come
and
present
to
us
a
LED
upgrade
for
city
of
Madison
light
poles
across
the
community
yeah.
I
Good
morning
Board
of
Public
Works
members,
we
have
been
working
with
Duke
Energy
on
a
number
of
things.
One
of
the
things
that
we
uncovered
as
a
part
of
those
conversations,
was
a
lighting
program
that
Duke
Energy
has
for
communities
that
was
started
just
last
year.
Currently
they
have
less
than
20
communities
participating
throughout
their
corporate
area.
At
this
time
we
are
as
the
city
of
Madison
in
line
for
this
program
starting
this
summer
and
be
completed
by
the
end
of
the
year.
It's
an
outdoor
conversion.
I
Basically,
they
call
it
the
Ryder
42
program,
it's
taking
all
of
our
existing
Cobra
street
lights
and
other
security
lights
and
upgrading
those
to
LED
throughout
our
community.
We
currently
have
approximately
900
of
those
in
the
Madison
Community.
As
a
part
of
this
process,
we
will
be
going
through
an
audit
with
Duke
Energy
to
evaluate
the
locations
of
those
and
the
number
of
those
throughout
the
community
to
ensure
our
billing
is
correct.
A
Tony
relative
to
first
of
all,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
for
taking
this
on
and
working
with
Duke
to
put
together
the
the
analytics
relative
to
what
it
would
save
the
city
over
the
course
of
the
year
and
as
well
as
the
the
rebate.
A
What
does
it
mean
for
like
Main
Street
lighting,
for
example,
where
we
have
the
decorative
polls?
Is
this
just
a
bulb
change
or
is
Will
Main
Street
lighting
not
be
effective.
I
Yeah,
so
any
of
the
decorative
lighting
that
the
city
of
Madison
owns
and
installs
we're
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
those,
the
lighting
replacement
and
if
those
are
hurt
in
an
accident.
So
all
those
are
still
the
responsibility
of
the
city
of
Madison.
There
are
other
programs
with
Duke
Energy
to
potentially
convert
those
much
like
the
Michigan
Road
Project.
I
We
chose
not
to
own
those
lights
and
that
so
we
are
under
contract
with
Duke
Energy
to
install
the
lighting
along
Michigan
Road,
as
a
part
of
that
so
from
here
on
out
with
Duke
Energy,
the
Michigan
Road
lights
will
be
all
maintained
by
Duke
Energy.
If
there's
an
accident
or
a
bulbs
out,
citizens
can
go
on
their
app
and
automatically
report
those
lights.
A
Does
this
light?
Does
this
energy
program
because
it's
really
an
energy
Savings
Program
for
outdoor
lighting?
Is
it
going
to
bring
with
it
new,
like
polls,
or
are
we
just
talking
about
the
light?
The
light
fixture
at
the
top
of
the
pole.
I
New
lights
to
to
be
added
as
a
part
of
the
program,
obviously,
if
there's
lights
removed,
the
poles
may
or
may
not
stay.
A
lot
of
these
are
already
on
those
on
those
poles.
But
basically,
if
you
look
at
the
top
of
Cobra
lights,
there's
a
there's
a
fixture
on
the
end
that
fixture
will
be
pulled
off
and
a
new
fixture
will
be
placed
on
on
that
existing
connection.
Okay,
so
no.
A
A
Will
we
have
the
same
I
guess
some
or
similar
wattage
I
mean
I,
know
that
it's
going
to
be
more
economical
but
relative
to
the
lumens
or
the
brightness
of
the
light?
Well,
it
it's
not
going
to
be
diminished
actually.
I
The
color
of
light
will
probably
enhance,
and
people
may
like
that
better.
If
you
look
at
the
lighting
On
the
Bridge
Approach
on
the
East
End,
that
lighting
softer
and
more
white
than
most
of
the
Cobra
lights,
which
give
off
a
a
yellowish
cast
like
a
Mercury
Halon.
Those
are
some
of
those
lights
are
30
and
40
years
old,
so
the
lighting
quality
should
go
up
in
terms
of
the
the
color
it's
in
a
it's
in
a
four
hundred
four
thousand
spectrum
color
on
an
LED
Spectrum.
I
So
that's
good
as
well
as
they
have
the
ability
to
direct
some
light
with
some
Shields
and
stuff
on
some
of
these
poles.
So
as
as
you
get
some
of
the
neighbors
made
or
some
of
the
more
tight
areas
in
Downtown
Madison,
they
have
the
ability
to
actually
add
some
Shields.
Much
like
we've
been
able
to
add
some
Shields
decorative
lighting
and
posts.
So
these
are
more
flexible
for
them
to
to
direct
light
to.
A
H
I
I
A
30
reduction
is
what
we're
anticipating.
Now
again,
the
audit's
not
been
complete,
but
you
know
we're
anticipating
a
30
reduction
and.
I
Are
currently
paying
north
of
ten
thousand
dollars
a
month,
so
we
expect
that
to
go
down
to
about
6600.
H
I
Yeah
at
this
time,
that's
the
expectation
again.
The
audit
process
will
allow
us
to
to
adjust
that
I've
talked
to
the
chief
of
police.
I've
talked
to
Tony
surels.
To
get
other
options,
you
know
throughout
the
city,
some
lights,
we
don't
need
any
more
some
lights.
We
do.
Some
might
need
to
be
brighter.
Some
might
not
to
be
so
we'll
as
a
part
of
the
audit
process
with
Duke,
we'll
we'll
look
at
those
things
as
well.
A
I'll
second
Carl's
motion
with
regard
to
approving
the
LED
lighting
plan,
with
Duke
in
partnership
with
them
any
additional
comments
or
question
and
discussion.
A
E
B
A
Aye
all
opposed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Tony
right.
We
will
now
move
into
a
couple
of
resolutions,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
Joe.
J
One
Beat,
okay,
the
first
one
is
resolution
number
one
B
2023,
a
resolution
of
the
Board
of
Public
Works
and
safety
of
the
city
of
Madison
Indiana
regarding
Street
closings,
for
a
parking
lot
and
for
the
River
Front
run
car
show,
whereas
there's
been
a
request
followed
by
Ken
washer
on
behalf
of
River
Rat
Rods
for
Street
closing
and
parking
lot.
Closings
Force,
head
group
in
connection
with
the
riverfront
run
car
show
to
be
held
on
Friday
May,
23,
2023
and
Saturday
May
27
2023.
J
now,
therefore
be
resolved
by
the
Board
of
Public,
Works
and
safety
of
the
city
of
Madison
Indiana
that
the
following
streets
and
parking
lots
shall
be
closed
from
12
P.M
to
12
a.m.
Midnight
on
Friday,
May,
26,
2023.,
Vaughn,
drive
from
the
west
side
of
West
Street
to
the
east
side
of
Poplar
Street,
Central
Avenue
from
the
chain
link
gate,
south
Devon
Drive
and
the
city
parking
lot
between
Poplar
Street
and
Central
Avenue.
J
A
A
K
K
K
A
Well,
you
know
having
volunteered
down
there,
the
last
several
years
with
Carl,
you
guys
do
an
awesome
job,
organizing
it
and
we're
really
grateful
that
you
bring
that
unique
event
to
Madison
and
and
then
again
you
do
a
lot
of
good
things
for
the
community,
with
the
the
support
from
your
sponsors
and
the
people
who
bring
the
cars.
Well,
let's
have.
A
When
it's
a
when
it's
not
30
degrees,
because
I
think
a
couple
years
ago,
it
was
around
around
35
degrees.
That
day,
when
it's
not
that
type
of
weather,
it
can
be
an
awesome
event.
Yeah.
A
E
Of
the
event
plan
we're
going
into
the
second
year
of
adopting
that
was
there
any
issues,
anything
the
plan
that
that
you
need
to
go
back
and
revisit
or
update
or
revise
I.
K
A
K
A
K
K
E
K
K
A
K
A
So
yeah
we
have
second
and
my
to
my
motion.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
B
J
The
next
one
is
resolution
number
2b-2023,
a
resolution
of
Board
of
Public
Works
and
safety
of
the
city
of
Madison
Indiana
regarding
a
street
closing
for
the
2023
music
in
the
park,
whereas
there's
my
requests
followed
by
Austin
Sims
on
behalf
of
the
Madison
Main
Street
program
for
a
street
closing
for
said
group
in
connection
with
the
2023
music
in
the
park,
events
to
be
held,
June,
9th
2023
to
July
20,
July,
14th,
August,
11th
and
September.
8Th
2023.
J
now,
therefore
be
resolved
by
the
Board
of
Public
Works
and
safety
of
the
state
of
Minnesota
yeah
that
Central
Avenue
between
First
Street
and
Vaughn
Drive
shall
be
closed
from
2
p.m.
12
P.M
to
10
p.m,
on
June,
9th
June,
July,
14th,
August,
11th
and
September
8th,
be
it
further
resolved
by
the
Board
of
Public,
Works
and
safety
of
the
city
of
Madison
Indiana.
The
parking
spaces
located
along
Bicentennial
Park
on
the
north
side
of
bond
Drive
shall
be
reserved
for
vendor
parking
only
from
12
P.M
to
10
p.m.
On
the
same
dates.
A
L
A
M
Go
last
year
we
had
rain
at
almost
threat
of
rain,
so
attendance
a
little
different
than
what
we've
seen
in
the
past.
But
typically
we
have
500
people
on
average,
depending
on
the
band
we've
seen
up
to
800
people
at
Broadway
Fountain.
You
know
everybody's
so
close
and
they
can
kind
of
Escape
down
the
Alleyways
pop
in
and
out
at
Broadway
or
at
Bicentennial.
You
see
them
walk
up
and
stay
for
a
while
and
having
the
restrooms
there
and
food
vendors.
M
A
D
A
A
I'll
second
Carl's
motion
for
this
resolution.
Any
additional
discussion
comments
or
questions
on
Fair,
please
say:
aye
aye,.
M
A
Work
all
right,
Mindy
we
have
next
up
Greg,
you
all
have
been
very
patient
as
we
go
through
this.
We
didn't
put
you
at
the
very
last.
We
thought
we
just
put
you
in
the
middle,
but
Property
and
Casualty
Insurance
renewals
for
2023.
N
Good
morning
board
I
know
you
all
have
copies
of
our
proposals
in
your
packets.
It's
time
for
our
annual
property
casualty
and
liability
coverage
renewal.
This
always
has
a
fairly
quick
turnaround.
N
N
The
good
news
is
both
of
them
were
less
than
what
we
paid
last
year,
one
by
a
little
bit
and
one
by
a
more
significant
number,
so
I'll
come
back
and
make
a
recommendation
for
the
board
at
the
end,
but
wanted
to
give
Greg
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
and
for
you
to
ask
any
questions
that
you
have
for
him.
Thank.
O
So,
as
Mindy
alluded
to,
we
did
send
a
renewal
for
the
property
casualty
K-9
and
the
Cyber
liability
out
to
the
market
access
seven
programs
through
three
different
partners
of
ours,
and
we
did
return
outside
of
what
you
have
there.
We
had
another
full-term
offer
for
property
and
liability
through
Zurich
Insurance.
O
In
addition
to
the
infection
we're
all
experiencing,
so
property
values
in
the
reinsurance
contracts
are
driving
pricing
with
premiums
where
lost
histories
are
agreeable
and
in
good
good
standing,
which
the
the
city
is
so
that's
kind
of
what
we
found
is
we
sent
it
out
to
Market
again.
We've
got
two
offers
there
proposals
as
per
the
quote
Intact
Insurance,
who
we
have
had
the
city
with
for
eight
years.
They
have
exited
the
public
entity,
Market
space.
O
So,
as
of
the
renewal,
we
are
now
offering
Liberty
Mutual
on
the
property
and
the
liability,
as
well
as
the
second
property
option,
with
Chubb,
which
is
your
current
property
carrier.
So
that's
what
you
have
in
your
proposal
in
front
of
you,
the
there
are
a
few
options
that
we
have
with
crime
and
cyber
as
well.
O
So
again,
when
you
go
out
to
the
market,
you
attend,
or
you
hope,
to
have
options
for
the
the
client
which
we
do
so
I
can
tell
you
that
just
working
in
that
space,
that's
not
always
what
I
find
so
again,
that's
that's
a
benefit
to
the
city
to
have
some
options
so
as
Mindy
also
mentioned,
which
it's
not
also
common,
that
we
have
a
decrease
in
premium
from
expiring,
with
inflation
factors
and
things
that
are
involved
in
the
market
conditions.
So
to
have
two
different
options
that
are
under
expiring
again
is
I.
O
Hard
work
of
my
team,
so
I
wanted
to
I
know
everyone's
had
somewhat
of
a
chance
to
review.
I
want
to
kind
of
first
start
and
see
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
and
then
through
the
proposal.
A
A
B
O
The
two
proposals
we
put
together
the
first
proposal
would
be
chub
insurance
on
the
property
and
Liberty
on
the
liabilities,
and
the
second
option
would
be
Liberty
Mutual
on
the
property
and
liability
as
a
reference.
Last
year,
when
we
marketed
the
account
Liberty
Mutual
did
offer
both
property
and
liability,
and
the
city
chose
to
remain
with
their
current
carriers
at
the
time,
ultimately,
probably
delivering
the
marketability
of
the
account
this
year
with
the
service
that
intact
and
Chubb
has
provided
over
the
last
eight
years,
specifically
within
Tech.
O
They
are
very
proactive
with
the
defending
of
their
clients,
which
will
then
keep
down
the
loss
ratios
and
so
forth.
To
make
it
a
more
you
know,
the
appetite
of
the
carriers
is
a
little
bit
what
we
saw
this
year
at
Market,
so
those
things
are
very
encouraging
exciting
for
us
to
be
able
to
deliver
that
again.
That's
not
a
common
discussion.
I
have
in
today's
today's
market,
especially
with
inflation
and
in
reinsurance,
yeah.
A
So
we're
happy
to
hear
that,
and
you
know,
I
know
that
you
know
Auto
liability
stands
out,
as
you
know,
a
very
high
part
of
our
annual
premium
as
compared
to
property
liability
and
given
the
fact
that
we
own
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
property,
is
it
just
the
mere
nature
of
automobile
accidents?
Certainly
the
frequency
of
that
and
in
the
loss
profile
of
automobile
accidents
as
compared
to
why
that
premium
would
be.
You
know,
percentage-wise
higher
than
property
coverage,
Force
yeah.
O
It's
a
good
question,
so
Ottawa
liability
is
a
loss
leader
for
almost
all
public
entities
with
the
fleet
of
the
size.
The
city
has
so
that's
not
uncommon.
I
would
note
that
the
the
auto
liability
did
decrease
significantly
from
expiring,
so
it's
nice
to
see
that.
So,
in
addition
to
that,
you
also
have
to
include
the
the
physical
damage
on
auto
losses,
as
well
as
a
liability
piece.
So
Otto
is,
is
definitely
one
of
the
driving
loss,
leaders
historically
and
probably
will
be
distracted
driving.
O
O
If
we
could
kind
of
dive
in
there's
some
big
pieces
to
those
coverages,
that
I
would
say,
with
chub
Chubbs,
always
historically
been
the
gold
standard
with
property
coverage.
The
city's
seen
that
with
some
losses
in
2018
from
the
hail
claim
that
they
experienced
but
Chubbs
property
forms
are
typically
a
little
more
robust
in
their
competition.
O
You
know,
example,
being
they
offer
policy
limit
for
ordinance
of
law,
which,
with
the
blanket
limit
the
city
carries,
is
65
million
plus.
So
with
that
ordinance,
the
law
coverage
is
would
be
a
time
of
loss.
We
operate
in
older
buildings
in
a
lot
of
cases
as
a
city,
so
maybe
re-sprinkling
ability,
88
compliance.
Those
types
of
losses
that
are
increased
cost
so
chubs
always
offered
full
policy
limits
there,
whereas
Liberty
Mutual,
for
example,
offers
10
million
in
coverage
additional
for
ordinance
and
loss.
So
that's
that's
a
component
and
a
difference
in
cost.
O
I
think
what
the
city
really
needs
to
weigh
out
between
the
two
is
we're
confident
in
both
offers.
Otherwise
they
wouldn't
be
in
front
of
you.
City
has
a
long-standing
relationship
with
Chuck.
That's
been
a
good
relationship.
There
is
a
deductible
difference
in
what
was
quoted,
so
that's
the
other
big
component,
I
would
mention
between
Liberty
Mutual
and
Chuck
chub
offer.
O
Ours
is
offering
a
25
000
property
deductible,
which
the
city
made
a
choice
to
to
share
some
risk
last
year,
whereas
Liberty
Mutual
is
quoted
it
at
10
000
as
far
as
a
property
deductible
is
concerned,
so
those
are
are
kind
of
some
of
the
larger
differences
between
the
two
carriers
from
a
property
standpoint,
the
way
they've
ensured
the
the
equipment
floater
they're
in
the
Marine
coverage.
There's
some
slight
variations,
but
I
wouldn't
note
anything
of
significance.
There
everything's
on
replacement,
cost
the
limits
and
the
blankets
are
there
to
cover
the
equipment.
O
The
city
has
so
the
big
pieces
and
difference,
and
so
then
you
kind
of
weigh
the
it's
about
a
twenty
four
thousand
dollar
difference
in
premium
between
chub
and
Liberty
Mutual,
with
Liberty
Mutual
being
the
lesser
of
the
two
premium
wise
so
again,
factoring
in
the
deductible
difference
as
well
as
that
ordinance
of
law.
I
think
is
important
and.
A
Greg
Hal,
how
much
time
do
we
have
before
we
have
to?
You
know,
make
an
award
for
either
one
of
these
providers
for
the
insurance,
so.
O
H
O
To
acquire
I
would
say
that
the
city's
relationship
with
Gregor
nepel
and
their
relations
with
carriers
and
the
efforts
the
city
is
making
and
those
improvements.
B
O
Is
what's
delivered
the
three
cyber
options
that
you
have
we're
seeing
public
entities
that
aren't
able
to
obtain
a
contract
with
cyber
liability
that
have
had
it
previous
and
with
no
losses?
So
we
have
seen
costs
level
off
just
a
little
bit,
but
what
we
are
seeing
is
the
risk
being
requested
so,
for
example,
from
deductibles
they're,
seeing
deductibles
being
increased
at
renewal,
which
is
the
case
here.
Current
expiring
deductible
is
25
000,
with
your
current
cyber
carrier,
which
the
renewal
they're
offering
with
the
same
pair
is
50..
O
A
Okay
and
I
think
at
this
time
last
year
we
asked
the
board
to
approve
essentially
or
authorize
the
mayor
and
staff
to
work
with
Gardner
on
finalizing
the
selection
of
the
insurance
provider
at
a
premium
up
to
a
certain
dollar
amount.
Is
that
what
we
did
last
year
and
we're
proposing
that
again
this
year,
Mindy
it.
N
D
O
The
crime
coverage
on
the
proposal
you
have
in
front
of
us
as
chub
Travelers
versus
Liberty
Liberty
option
would
be
to
my
recommendation
would
be
to
to
remain
with
Travelers
on
your
crime
versus
what
it's
quoted
at
as
well
as
HCC
on
the
Cyber
versus
your
current
care
cowbell.
So
those
would
be
my
recommendations
for
the
third
column,
those
those
recommendations
were
taken.
It
would
bring
premium
to
357,
305
and
43
cents,
and
it
could
be
if
that
Liberty
Mutual
on
the
property
was
the
board
was
looking
to
pursue.
O
N
So
last
year
we
looked
at
Liberty
also
they
had
some
for
us
and
we
chose
not
to
go
with
them.
We
just
didn't
have
enough
history
with
them
or
enough
experience.
So,
given
this
amount
of
savings,
I'm
comfortable
trying
Liberty
for
this
year,
we
can
put
it
out
to
Market
next
year,
if
we're
not
happy
with
the
service
or
the
claim
payments.
N
My
if
the
board
is
comfortable
with
it.
My
recommendation
would
be
that
you
approve,
until
we
complete
negotiations
up
to
that
357
305
dollar
number,
to
look
at
Liberty,
finalize
some
of
these
details
and
give
the
mayor
the
authority
to
do
that
and
then
sign
the
document
so
that
we
can
get
it
wrapped
up
by
the
24th.
A
Liberty
is
has
an
excellent
rating,
so
I
I
think
that
recommendation
you're
making
is
the
right
one
to
pursue.
It
gives
an
opportunity
to
give
me
a
look
at
deductibles
and
and
premiums
and
see
if
there
isn't
any
additional
savings
we
can
Garner
through
that
reporter.
What
do
you
think.
O
O
The
newness
for
them
was
in
the
public
entity
space
which
is
not
as
new
as
it
was
once
was
and
again
we
saw
where
they
came
back
this
year,
where
the
question
mark.
So
some
of
those
question
marks
have
been
kind
of
answered
as
a
result,
because
we
now
know
where
they
will
fall
the
following
year.
So
you
know
from
a
property
standpoint.
I
would
say
that
that
large
property
blankets
are
no
are
not
new
to
Liberty
Mutual
Mutual,
one
of
the
largest
insurance
carriers
in
the.
A
Then
I'll
move
that
we
approve
insurance
premium
up
to
the
amount
of
357
000
204
dollars
was
at
the
dollar
amount.
I
heard.
E
E
A
Three:
five:
seven:
three:
oh
five:
okay,
three:
five:
seven
and
authorize
the
mayor
to
work
with
staff
and
our
insurance
provider
to
finalize
the
selection
of
our
insurance
carriers,
with
with
proper
deductibles.
A
G
A
A
Katrina
I'm
sure
you
want
to
address
billboard,
probably
works
right.
What
you're
welcome
to
you're
welcome
to
all
right.
A
All
right
moving
on,
we
will
move
into
our
PACE
program,
so
Nicole
Michelle
is
here
director
of
planning.
P
To
existing
Pace
grants
the
first
is
John
Bruns
at
1001
West
First
Street.
He
is
asking
to
increase
his
original
Pace
Grant
from
the
22
445
dollars
to
the
twenty
five
thousand.
They
uncovered
additional
cost
expenses
due
to
unforeseen
work,
and
he
submitted
the
letter
outlining
that.
A
So
taking
these
one
at
a
time,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
by
there
yet
bored
but
check
out
the
significant
amount
of
of
restorations
happening
on
that
property
and
then
particularly
in
that
neighborhood.
Grateful
for
John's
investment
here
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
amendment
to
1001
West
First
Street.
D
A
P
It
111
East
requesting
an
increase
to
their
Pace
Grant
from
a
regular
Rehabilitation
Grant
of
7500
to
dilapidate
structures,
Grant
of
25
000,
given
the
investment
of
their
work
and
the
fact
that
the
building
would
have
been
considered
deteriorated
and
eligible
if
they
had
not
started
work
previously.
We're
recommending
this
approval.
A
Yeah
on
board
another
one,
if
you
haven't
been
by
there,
that's
a
whole.
A
lot
of
transformation
happening
in
a
corridor
really
really
grateful
for
Matt
and
Dan's
work
on
this
particular
property
is
going
to
be
just
fantastic.
There.
G
P
So
moving
on
application,
the
first
application
or
217
219
East
Main
Street.
They
are
requesting
a
grant
of
7500
to
complete
work
on
Windows
Doors
fire
escape
and
Foundation.
A
Just
for
note
to
the
public,
these
have
already
been
reviewed
and
recommended
by
our
Pace
committee.
Correct,
okay
and
some
of
them
have
or
may
not
have
gone
through
Historic
District
Board
review,
but
those
that
that
require
a
CFA
are
working
with
your
office.
To
do
that,
yes,
that's
correct.
Okay,.
P
P
Next
application,
223
West
1st
Street,
is
requesting
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
to
replace
the
siding
with
LP
Smart
Siding
and
replace
one
windows
and
the
gutters.
P
Next
application
is
128
Mulberry
Street.
This
is
our
first
dilapidated
structures
for
2023
they're,
going
to
demo
and
rebuild
on
this
building,
keeping
the
front
facade
and
they're
requesting
22
500.
A
Nicole
just
a
point
on
this
one
here,
that's
just
a
fantastic
outcome
for
a
property
that
has
been
in
that
state
of
condition.
A
E
A
P
Haven't
quite
decided,
they
keep
going
back
between
like
a
farmer's
market
market
style,
vendor
booth
and
storage,
some
sort
of
commercial.
A
As
we
go
through
any
of
these,
was
there
any
remonstrances
happening
with
regard
to
the
at
the
pace
board
meeting
I
mean
relative
to
some
of
the
significant
rehab.
That's
about
to
happen.
No
okay.
P
The
next
application
is
our
second
dilapidated
structures.
523
525
West
Street
is
requesting
that
25
000
for
tuck
pointing
paint
Windows
floor,
joists
doors,
Etc.
A
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
to
do
that
is
going
to
cost
far
more
than
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
in
private
investment
where
Nicole
and
I
have
been
talking
about.
How
do
we
capture
the
remaining
investment
and
we
should
be
through
looking
at
the
rest
of
their
plan,
but
those
properties
have
sat
there.
You
know
deteriorating
and
and
essentially
creating
blight
along
West
Street
the
whole
row
for
a
very,
very
long
time,
and
now
we're
seeing
activity
on
these
are
five
properties
down
through
there
on
all
of
them.
A
So
again,
it's
a
fantastic
outcome
of
working
with
the
owners
and
the
program
doing
its
job
of
getting
investment
Capital
off
the
sidelines
and
into
our
properties,
which
is
what
we
want
in
the
historic
preservation.
H
A
So,
to
receive
a
a
grant
for
demolition
of
a
property
like
this,
they
need
to
come
back
with
a
plan
for
building
something
in
the
void.
That's
left
is
that
correct.
P
Giving
out
the
full
amount
of
funds
until
that
reconstruction
is
completed.
Okay,.
P
A
Yeah
I
mean
we
don't
want
voids
right,
we
want,
we
want,
we
want
eliminated
polite
and
that's
been
like
that,
probably
30
years
or
longer,
probably
a
lot
longer,
I
notice,
the
tree
isn't
holding
it
up,
any
longer,
tree's
been
pruned,
but,
and
then
the
house
we're
probably
getting
to
it,
but
the
house
right
next
door
to
it
is
also
receipt
going
to
receive
a
a
grant
for
the
restoration
of
it.
A
Q
Yes,
I'm
not
aware
that
this
particular
property
has
been.
It
is
part
of
the
historic
district
guidelines
that
that
happens.
So
it
is
important.
I'll
double
check
with
the
the
recorder's
office
to
make
sure
we've
got
that
chain
of
title
and
then,
of
course,
get
any
documentation,
photographs
and
stuff
which
Nicole's
office
needs
to
take
care
of.
So
we
we
certainly
will
do
our
part
as
volunteers,
but
we
look
for
the
city
and
the
official
process
to
also
be
followed.
Q
Well,
it
is
in
the
new
design
guidance.
Q
A
Then
I
think
we're
documenting,
probably
documenting
what
was
there,
but
as
far
as
doing
a
you
know,
an
abstract
of
the
property
back
to
to
the
beginning
of
time.
I
don't
believe.
Q
It
says
in
the
guidelines
we
are
happy
to
work
with
the
Recorder's
Office
to
do
we
have
we
have
a
treasure
Trove
of
documents
at
the
courthouse
back
to
1811.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
somebody
wanting
to
do
the
work,
but
the
the
guidelines
do
have
a
very
specific
process.
Now.
A
Q
It's
a
big
book
but
I
know
that
photographs.
It
doesn't
specify
that
everyone
has
to
have
architectural
drawings,
but
but
there
are
some
some
specifics
in
the
new
guidelines.
A
Well,
I
mean
it:
I
will
say
this
that
I'm
assuming
then
that
between
Cornerstone.
A
Let
me
just
finish
my
thoughts.
Please
I
would
think
that,
between
with
our
historic
advocacy
groups
with
Cornerstone
historic
Madison,
Indiana
landmarks
that
Somewhere
over
the
last
30
years,
there's
been
some
review
of
these
properties.
Q
Society
right
historic
Madison
has
their
specific
properties
that
they
take
care
of
and
Cornerstone
is
primarily
been
involved
with
restoration
of
properties.
Certainly,
the
Wilson
house
that
started
the
Cornerstone
organization
30
plus
years
ago
is
very
well
documented.
Yes,
and
some
of
the
other
properties
that
we
have
purchased
recently,
but
homeowners
do
a
lot
of
that
themselves
when
they,
when
they
come
into
the
historic
district,
it's
sort
of
a
fun
thing
to
do
to
find
the
research,
but
we
get
people
into
the
History
Center
all
the
time.
Wanting
information
on
their
historic
buildings.
Q
E
Think
it'd
be
safe
to
say
with
this
structure
that
the
homeowner
probably
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
interest
in
researching
this
particular
piece
of
property,
and
we
just
completed
a
an
inventory,
an
updated
inventory
for
the
national,
putting
together
the
new
guidelines.
E
Q
Unfortunately,
I
think
the
the
folks
that
do
the
survey
also
mention
this
in
their
final
report.
They
don't
get
into
the
cultural
history
like
who
owned
it.
That's
not
something
you
know
unless
it's
a
famous
person
and
most
of
our
properties
were
ordinary
folks,
a
lot
of
them
built
by
the
people
that
actually
live
there.
So
yeah
it's.
You
know
it's
a
treasure
that
we
have
that
we
haven't
taken
very
good
care
of
over
the
decades,
but
we're
certainly
working
to
do
that
now.
Yeah,
let's.
A
P
Okay,
you
have
a
section
of
the
guidelines
that
Jan's
referring
to
is,
in
the
demolition
section,
a
document
of
historic
resources
prior
to
demo.
It
says
in
the
standards
the
documentation
shall
take
it
the
form
of
black
and
white
photographs
or
color
digital
photographs
of
the
photo,
but
it
does
also
refer
to
the
hdbr
Shell
determined
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
the
extent
of
documentation
required.
It
does
not
say
who
is
responsible
for
that
documentation.
Nor
does
it
say
that
this
as
a
unsafe
structure
has
to
go
through
that
process.
P
A
What
does
this
require?
What's
the
in
I
know
that
this
has
been
the
one
I
think
board?
Member
Carlo
was
referring
to
about
not
having
a
an
issue
to
proceed,
glad
to
see
that
this
is
going
to
be
preserved.
What's
the
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
since
there's
been
so
much
public
interest
about
707?
A
So
that'd
be
that
will
be
partially
demolished.
Yes,
okay.
P
P
A
B
P
A
D
P
P
P
P
A
Okay,
so
we
have
the
pace:
applications
just
outlined
by
Nicole
I,
don't
know
if
I
need
to
go
back
and
read
them
all.
They're.
All
on
record
here
on
the
agenda
they've
been
vetted
and
approved
and
recommended
by
the
pace
committee
I'll
make
the
motion
that
we
approve.
All
the
grants,
as
presented
by
Nicole
today,
is
recommended
by
Pace
committee.
A
Okay,
we
have
one
just
please
identify
yourself
and
your
name
and
address
I'm.
C
C
Getting
done,
I
was
told
here
several
months
ago
by
someone
from
with
Cornerstone
that
they
had.
This
was
before.
Pace
was
applied
for
that
they
had
plenty
of
money
and
they
have
plenty
of
people
lined
up
exact
words
to
get
started
on
this.
Now
here
we
go
again
months
have
gone
by
and
then
they
apply
for
pace,
and
so
now
that's
granted
I
want
to
see
them
actually
do
something
real
with
that
place.
I
have
asked
several
times
about
from
different
people
with
Cornerstone.
C
What
are
y'all
doing
with
this?
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
it?
They're
not
going
to
tear
it
down
they're
going
to
rebuild
it,
which
basically
is
going
to
have
to
be
tore
down.
You
can't
rebuild
nothing,
but
the
thing
is:
is
I
have
not
got
an
answer
on
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it
either
I
just
want
to
see
them
guys.
C
A
In
the
four
years
you've
lived
there
in
the
last
and
I'm,
not
you
know,
I'm
just
going
to
share
with
you
what
what
my
opinion
is
on
it
right.
You
lived
there
for
four
years
and
in
the
last
90
days
we
have
a
preservation
organization
that
has
acquired
the
property
fenced
in
the
property
so
that
it
could
be
secured,
put
together,
financing
and
plans
in
order
to
rehabilitate
the
property.
A
I
wish
things
would
happen
a
lot
quicker
a
long
time
ago,
but
we
are
where
we
are
and
it
feels
to
me,
even
though
you
know
I,
don't
live
next
door,
so
you're
right
there
in
the
heart
of
it,
and
you
see
it
every
day
and
I
can
only
imagine
you
know
how
much
stress
that
puts
on
a
neighborhood,
which
is
why
we
have
such
a
focus
on
blight
elimination
and
historic
preservation.
C
A
A
That
I
think
this
will
probably
be
the
eighth
property
within
two
blocks
of
your
house.
That's
now
going
through
major
restoration,
as
well
as
significant
investment
for
flood
mitigation
happening
there.
So
I
wish
things
would
happen
a
little
bit
quicker,
but
they
they
do
happen.
What.
A
We're
happy
to
share
with
you,
because
I
believe
it's
a
public
document,
the
plans
that
they
submitted
to
the
PACE
committee
that
the
pace
board
approved
before
granting
them
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
try
to
restore
a
dilapidated
structure.
So
the
good
news
is,
we
have
a
plan.
A
That's
been
absent
from
all
these
conversations
and
a
lot
of
these
properties
for
decades
and
I
wish
things
could
happen
faster,
but
planning
funding,
mobilizing
working
with
contractors
it
it
I,
see
it
every
day,
I
see
how
long
things
take,
but
I'm
happy
that
we're
making
progress
here
and
and
it's
a
it's,
a
slow
and
steady
kind
of
thing
versus
something.
That's
going
to
happen
very
very
quickly.
Unfortunately,.
A
E
E
Opposed
to
the
last
10
years,
so
we
we've
got
to
give
it
time
and
we've
we've
got
to
to
trust
the
the
society
to
keep
up
their
their
work
and
and
their
words
did.
D
A
Little
patients
go
a
long
way
here
and
I
understand
your
frustration.
We'll
get
there.
Q
About
that
just
a
couple
of
comments.
First
of
all,
yes,
we
were
very
glad
to
work
with
Miss
Jenkins
to
share
the
dumpster
and
we
are
in
the
process
now
of
putting
another
dumpster
for
additional
work
for
both
properties
and
because
it
is
an
issue
of
parking
on
Walnut
Street
we're
trying
to
get
the
dumpster
to
find
a
flat
place
in
the
back,
so
that
the
dumpster
can
be
in
the
back
on
the
Jenkins
Property.
Q
It
was
not
deemed
safe
by
the
company
before,
but
if
she
can
do
some
work
on
the
back
lot,
there
we
may
be
able
to
move
the
dumpster
in
the
back.
So,
yes,
we
are
working
very
closely
to
try
to
help
both
properties
appreciating
that
they
have
sat
there
for
quite
a
while
and
also
as
far
as
the
documentation
people
have
a
misunderstanding
of
what
it
means
to
be
part
of
the
Underground
Railroad.
Q
We
know
absolutely
that
William
Anderson
built
and
lived
in
that
house
that
does
not
mean
that
there
were
slave
tunnels
underneath
the
house,
that
is,
that
is
common
misconception
about
what
it
means
to
be
part
of
the
Underground
Railroad.
But
yes,
we
do
have
the
chain
of
title
and
the
deeds
and
the
tax
records
for
that
property.
What.
D
A
So
we
met
with
Miss,
Jenkins
and
and
and
she
she
took
action
right
away
and
I'm
really
happy.
She
did
yeah.
D
D
E
Q
In
a
very
all
that
parking
is
needed
on
Walnut
Street,
so
so
hopefully
we
can
find
a
place
in
the
back.
A
There's
a
lot
happening
on
Walnut
Street,
that's
really
positive,
and
it's
going
in
the
right
direction
takes
time,
takes
lots
of
money
takes
lots
of
planning.
City
is
a
partner
in
all
of
this,
and
you
know
five
years
from
now
that
Corridor
is
going
to
just
continue
to
look
better
and
better.
A
B
P
Two
Pace
finals,
the
first
202
Broadway
Street,
was
completed.
They
completed
work
on
their
double
door
set.
I
know
these
aren't
the
greatest
pictures.
P
But
the
work
has
been
done
according
to
their
Pace
Grant
and
they
look
great
and
they
are
asking
for
the
disbursement
of
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
P
The
second
final
is
12
Poplar
Street
This
was
a
frame
house
that
had
asbestos
siding
on
it.
They
on
they
uncovered
the
original,
siding
and
restored
it
to
its
former
Beauty
and
they've
completed
their
Pace
Grant,
also
according
to
their
guidelines,
and
are
also
asking
for
the
disbursement
of
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
A
I
would
just
encourage
the
community
to
drive
around
any
corner
of
Downtown
Madison
and,
if
you're
not
seeing
investment
happening.
Let
us
know
because
this
has
been
a
very
robust
preservation
environment
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
and
we've
seen
great
example,
after
example,
of
just
fantastic
investment
by
our
property
owners
on
literally
transforming
blocks
of
our
historic
district,
there's
been
more
happening
in
the
last
couple
years
in
the
last
20
years,
candidly
and
I'm
really
grateful
for
it.
E
This
that
Corridor
on
Poplar
Street
and
then
around
the
corner
on
Second
Street,
it's
looking
fantastic
so.
A
And
there's
another
one
happening
now
on
Poplar,
the
well
I
think
the
last
one
of
that
that
genre,
a
style
or
a
style
of
house
is
finally
being
I.
Think
we've
already
approved
a
pace
grant
for
it.
Didn't
we
is
that
right
up
there
near
Ken's
house
across.
P
The
street
corner:
well,
this
is
the
one
across
the.
A
P
A
For
the
pace
committee
and
winter
applications
due
for
second
quarter.
A
So
35
days
into
the
first
year,
we're
already
into
the
second
quarter
application
cycle
very
good.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
I,
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
add
other
than
tonight's
Council
agenda.
A
We're
going
to
hear
reports
from
police
chief
Wallace
about
Madison
police
department
activity
and
also
fire
chief
washer
floor
mats
and
fire
department,
we'll
also
be
taking
up
some
additional
historic
preservation,
legislation
tonight
and
and
then
further
discussing
or
approving
supplemental
authorization
for
financing
of
the
Crystal
Beach
pool
replacement
project,
so
lots
happening
and
invite
all
the
community
to
be
here
tonight.
A
5,
30.
and
I'll
move
on
to
public
comments.
If
anybody
is
here
or
any
comments
from
the
from
the
board,
now
be
a
time
to
address
the
Board
of
Public
Works
Ryan,
you
came
back
in
the
room.
Is
there
anything
with
you?
Oh
gotcha?
Okay,
all
right,
I'll.
A
Is
there
any
public
comment
board?
Any
comments
don't
forget.
Earlier
in
the
meeting
board,
member
eaglin
commented
that
he
was
going
to
be
performing
at
one
of
the
music
in
the
Parks
ceremonies.
That's
right
so
we'll
we'll
have
to
find
a
date
and
really
promote
that.
May.