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From YouTube: City of Madison Historic District Board of Review Organizational Meeting- January 25, 2021
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The Historic District Board of Review is meeting to train board members.
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F
Okay,
sorry,
all
right,
so
all
of
your
questions
that
you
posed
to
the
applicant
or
to
their
contractor
is
up
there.
Your
those
questions
should
directly
bear
on
whether
or
not
that
aspect
of
the
application
you're
talking
about
that
minute,
whether
those
aspects
fit
within
the
guidelines
or
they
don't
so.
This
is
finding
us
with
facts.
It's
not
findings
of
opinions
not
trying
to
taste.
F
Okay,
it's
all
your
questions
should
be.
Is
this
fitting
into
the
guidelines,
or
does
this
violate
the
guidelines?
The
only
other
document
you
might
consider
other
than
the
guidelines
is
this
okay.
This
is
the
department
of
the
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation,
so
our
guidelines
were
consistent
with
this.
I'm
sure
this
was
being
consulted
as
the
guidelines
were
drawn
drawn
up,
but
it
that
would
be
the
only
other
document
you
might
consider
directing
your
questions
towards
answering
whether
it's
consistent
or
not.
F
F
So
frame
your
questions
with
that
in
mind,
if
you,
if
you
find
that,
in
your
opinion,
an
application
is
clearly
outside
the
guidelines,
don't
try
and
fix
it
for
the
applicant
during
the
meeting.
Okay,
tweaking
a
little
thing:
that's,
okay!
You
know
it
just
takes
a
few
seconds,
it's
something
very
minor,
but
we
don't
want
to
have
a
design
by
committee
where
all
of
us
are
kind
of
redoing
the
whole
application
in
real
time.
Okay,
just
state,
why
you
think
it
doesn't
fit
the
guidelines,
let
them
redo.
It
come
back
next
month.
F
Okay-
and
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
this
seems
to
be
the
hardest
thing,
is
keeping
your
personal
opinions
out
of
it.
We've
all
violated
this.
I
know
I've
done
it
myself,
I'll
notice
that
I'm
doing
it
while
I'm
doing
it
it's
too
late.
I've
already
started
you
know,
so
we
have
to
try
to
get
out
of
the
habit
of
this,
and
all
of
our
my
taste
is
impeccable.
F
Okay,
what's
relevant
is
the
guidelines
and
whether
the
application
is
in
line
with
or
not
so,
as
josh
mentioned,
the
word
color
is
not
even
in
the
guidelines.
If
they
mentioned
they
were
going
to
paint
this
house
purple
with
pink
polka,
dots
and
glitter
mixed
into
the
paint.
You
got
nothing
to
say
about
it.
Okay,
it
doesn't
bear
on
the
guidelines,
even
if
you
can
cringe,
if
you
want
to,
but
don't
don't
weigh
in
on
that.
F
Okay,
you
don't
want
to
have
phrases
like
you
know.
It
would
look
better
if
you
would
don't
go
there
if
you'd
be
willing
to
do
this
I'll.
Let
you
slide
on
this.
I've
heard
that
before
from
the
board,
okay,
you
don't
want
to
be
bargaining
and
saying
I'll,
go
soft
on
you
here.
If
you
do
this
thing
that
I
think
would
look
great
here.
It
has
to
be
finding
of
fact
according
to
the
guidelines
or
not
all,
our
questions
should
be
framed
with
that
in
mind,.
A
Yeah,
I
would
say,
of
course,
the
questions
should
come
before
we
get
to
the
findings
effect.
The
findings
of
fact
are
just
basically
just
making
comments
toward
their
application,
fitting
the
guidelines
or
not
fitting
the
guidelines
right.
So
at
that
point
in
time
we
shouldn't
be,
if
we're
in
finding
the
fact,
we
probably
should
not
be
asking
the
applicant
any
questions
about.
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A
Yeah
you're
going
to
have
some
where,
if
they're
doing
a
total
rehabilitation
when
they
come
to
us,
it's
usually,
you
know
four
or
five
different
topics
that
we're
looking
at
and
what
they're
rehabilitating
right.
So
then,
you
may
have
questions
on
why
they
may
be
using
a
certain
material
or
something
else.
A
You
may
have
a
question
on
the
placement
of
where
a
door
is
there's
there's
just
several
different
things
that
you
may
have
a
question
about.
Certainly
that
needs
to
be
asked
before
we
get
to
finding
the
fact,
because
once
we
get
the
findings
of
facts,
we're
now
saying.
Okay,
what
you
have
now
stated,
your
your
stated
application
based
on
now
any
any
answers.
E
A
A
It
also
may
be:
we've
had
a
few
circumstances,
it
doesn't
happen
a
lot,
but
we've
had
a
few
circumstances
where
something
may
not
necessarily
fit
the
guidelines,
but
you
know
a
board.
Member
just
might
feel
like
look.
I
think
this
is
the
exception
based
on
this.
This
and
this
you
know
so,
although
it
doesn't
fit
this
well,
I've
heard
I
would
say
it
even
sometimes
it's
like.
E
E
A
And
that's
why
it's
important
that
you
know
you
state
your
opinion
and
that's
why,
when
we
go
through
this,
if
you
totally
agree
with
what
ken
says
which
no
one
does
then
then
you
say
hey,
I
agree
with
ken
be
the
first.
It's
always
good,
there's
a
lot
of
firsts
nowadays,
so
you
know
you
know
and
that's
okay.
That
means
that
you
totally
agree
with
how
he
interpreted
it
and
you
know
we
move
on.
If
you
say
hey,
I
agree
with
ken.
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G
E
C
B
E
I
I
A
You
know,
and-
and
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
tonight's
meeting-
I
turn
mine
in
usually
the
next
day.
I
usually
email
them
to
her,
because
I'll
put
all
my
comments
there,
because
I
like
to
have
the
meeting
done
and
know
that
you
know,
what's
all
been,
you
know,
stated
I'll,
usually
type
some
things
in
tonight.
If
I
don't,
then
I
do
it
tomorrow,
but
just
make
sure
they
get
in
within
the
week
after
we
we
have
a
meeting.
It
just
helps
to
ensure
that
we
have
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row
all.
H
H
B
F
B
A
The
the
only
time
that
can
you
have
to
inform
brook
you
got
it,
you
know,
then
there
has
to
be
two
board
members
there
is.
There
is
some
rules
that
can
be
followed
where
they
can
go
and
they
can
look
at
it
and
they
can
have
the
applicant
there
to
ask
a
few
questions,
but
it
has
to
be
within
our
our
guidelines.
Our
board
guidelines.
F
C
The
other
thing
you
can
do
because,
because
invariably
you
will
get
questions
from
applicants
right,
especially
if
you
drive
by
and
any
question
I
usually
get.
I
say
all
you
have
to
do
is
call
brooke
or
a
call.
I
mean
that's
the
easiest
way
to
handle.
It
can't
really
comment
on
it,
but
I'm
just
here
to
look
so
so
I
mean
it
really
does.
C
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A
Okay!
Well,
we'll
go
to
the
the
next
item,
which
is
the
board
worksheet,
which
you
kind
of
just
talked
about
work.
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you
got
the
imported,
everybody
needs
to
turn
them
in,
I
told
them
they
have
the
week.
You
know
you
know
after
the
meeting
is
over,
they
want
to
nestle
tournament
tonight
they
have
the
full
week
to
get
them
emailed
to
you
so
that
we
have
them
on
record.
A
A
There's
no
guideline
in
this
of
what
you
can
put
on
there.
Just
you
know
just
make
sure
you
know
I
put
basically
the
facts
and
what
kind
of
occurred
and
what
your
opinion
was
and
if
you
didn't
think
it
needed
to
you
know
it
passed
it
and
even
though
it
got
approved
then
you
put
on
there.
I
just
did
not
think
this
meets
the
guidelines
and
that's
okay,
that's
it's
your
worksheet
that
that
gets
turned
in
so
now
it
takes
us
to
how
to
make
a
motion
and.
B
A
G
So
one
of
the
pieces
you
have
to
talk
about,
which
is
a
big
big
sin
here-
is,
you
have
to
say
the
street
address
or
the
project
so
that
the
brook
now
when
she's
taken
her
notes,
knows
what
you're
talking
about.
Then
the
owner
knows
what
you
talked
about.
Would
we
use
the
wrong
street
address
at
times
wrong
peoples
at
times?
E
G
And
commander
will
just
look
around
and
pick
on
some
poor
sap
and
go
hey
ken.
Why
don't
you
start
us
off
and
so
I'll
start
with
the
street
address
and
I'll
start
with
the
project
and
I'll
say
based
on
the
guidelines
in
page
55-57,
and
you
have
all
the
bullets
of
the
guidelines.
So
not
all
of
them
are
pertinent,
so
I
don't
believe
it's
the
response.
We
have
to
respond
to
each
bullet.
G
You
know
because
I
have
not
no
one's
yelled
at
me
yet
so
I
just
pick
out
the
pertinent
ones
that
I
think
address
what
the
the
project
that's
in
front
of
us,
and
I
don't
read
them
all.
I
summarize
the
entire
list
because
you
have
to,
but
I
would
what
I'm
trying
to
do,
though,
is
create
a
list
of
specifics
that
we
can
that
the
next
person
can
create
the
motion
on
so
are.
A
A
G
So
I'm
not
doing
the
motion
part,
okay,
all
right
yeah.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're
on
so
and
then
so,
but
I
will
still
say
you
know
how
we
feel
about
it.
You
know
going
through
the
the
bullets
on
the
on
the
guidelines
and
trying
to
pull
them
out,
not
every
project.
We
have
matches
anything
that's
written
down,
so
we
just
have
to
try
to
create
something
that
we
have
a
basis
for
our
motion.
G
About
doing
the
exact
same
way,
except
now
I
use
the
praise
the
based
on
the
proceedings
of
fact
it's
in
your
book.
I
move
that
the
madison,
his
historic
district
board
of
review,
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
proposed
project
and
location,
and
then
I
shut
up
right
and
then
we
wait
for.
Do
you
want
specifics
there
do
you
want
to
re
rehashed
or
you
just.
A
You
know
we
normally
do
want
the
specifics.
I
know
that
you
know
I
I
understand
by
saying
proceeding,
finds
it
back.
You
kind
of
feel
like
you're
covering
it,
but
I
think
there
has
been.
Our
attorney
has
given
us
guidance
that
he
would
like
to
have
the
stated
application.
So
you
go
back
to
the
application
and
you
know
like
the
first
one
to
replace
with
you
know,
siding
on
the
rear
edition
and
enclosed
second
story
porch
with
metal
siding.
A
So
you
may
say
state
that
that's
what's
being
approved,
yeah,
that's
what
I'm
I'm,
making
a
motion
to
approve
that
no
good
piece,
yeah
and
and
and
you'll
do
everything
else
that
you
said
especially,
you
know.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we've
always
stated
the
applicant's
name,
but
we
have.
We
definitely
state
the
address
of
the
application
that
way
if
it's
ever
looked
up
later,
that
it's
all
connected.
A
So
but
that's
it
really
had
everything
there
just
except
for
you
know
we
like
to
do
that
and,
as
you
know,
ken
sometimes
it
does
change
during
the
meeting
and
they
may
say.
Well,
I
don't
really
want
to
go
with
metal
siding.
I
want
to
go
with.
You
know
the
hardy
board.
You
know
I've
been
thinking
about
it,
it's
like
okay,
so
they
change
their
application
to
hardy
board
and
we
make
sure
we
get
that
on
on
the
motion.
A
G
A
So
the
motion's
really
important
it
it's
you
know
and
some
people
you
know
they've
been
on
the
if
you've
been
on
boards
before
there
are
some
awards.
I
know
that
to
say
I
just
want
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
application.
We
just
can't
do
that.
It's
not
in
our
ability
legally
to
do
it
in
it
and
it
be
billed
to
be
backed
up
and
supported
by
by
the
city
attorneys.
So
so
we
got
to
be
really
specific
in
how
we
make
our
motions.
A
I
don't
want
you
to
be
afraid
to
make
the
motion.
That's
why
there's
all
the
board
members
here?
That
is
why
brooke
and
nicole
are
there
if
you're
missing
something
as
a
board
member,
something
is
missing
from
the
motion
that
you
know
needs
to
be
in
that
just
speak
up.
So
before
a
second's
made,
I
may
say,
hey
mike,
did
you
mean
to
add
metal
siding
to
that
motion?
They
had
metal
side
in
it.
Yeah!
I'm!
Sorry!
Let
me
let
me
let
me
add
that
to
my
motion.
A
A
B
I
When
we're
typing
minutes,
we
do
take
the
findings
effect,
and
the
motion
word
for
word,
so
be
careful
what
you
say
during
those
parts,
but
they
really
need
to
back
up
what
application
they're.
For
I
look
at
those
two
items
as
a
puzzle
piece
leading
back
to
the
legal
notice
application
form,
you
should
really
be
able
to
pull
those
three
things
out
and
match
them
up
to
which
application
it's
for.
B
A
So
that
is
really
the
idea
of
making
the
motion
again.
You
know,
I
don't
want
it
to
be
difficult
and
I
think
sometimes
people
can
feel
it's
overwhelming,
so
they
they
shy
away
from
making
a
motion.
I
think
you
know
everybody
should
should
try
to
make
one.
You
won't
be
able
to
make
one
every
night
we
we
meet
because
we'll
have
that
many
applications,
but
certainly
over
the
course
of
you
know
three
months.
I
think
everybody
should
have
made
a
motion.
I
the
chair,
cannot
make
the
motion,
so
you
won't
hear
me.
A
Well,
there
you
go,
I
guess
I
can.
I
learned
something
tonight
too
see,
so
I
guess
I
can
make
a
motion.
I
just
followed
other
chairs,
okay,
so
any
questions
on
making
a
motion
at
all.
It's
the
checklist
will
help
you
it'll
certainly
help
guide
you
just
just
the
one
thing
it
doesn't
have
doesn't
have
on.
There
is
the
specifics
of
the
actual,
what's
being
asked
for
in
the
application.
B
I
I
I
D
D
A
Now,
remember,
you
know,
that's
really
important
too.
You
can
make
a
motion
to
deny
not
every
motion
is
made
to
approve.
So
if
you
wanted
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
an
application,
you
have
that
ability
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
it
now.
The
other
board
members
sometimes
get
a
little
tripped
up,
because
now
you
go
through
the
approve
or
do
not
approve.
A
Remember
if
you
approve
a
motion,
that's
going
to
deny
an
application
you're
approving
that
denial,
so
you
have
to
switch
in
your
head.
The
approve
means
I'm
denying
the
application.
The
do
not
approve
means
that
I
want
to
approve
the
application.
So
you
know
it
has
happened.
We've
had
a
few
motions
to
deny
and
you
just
got
to
know
that
when
you're
stating
whether
or
not
you
approve-
or
you
do
not
approve
to
that
motion-
that
it
changes
it
switches
up
as
well.
G
A
G
D
A
General
motion
on
here
on
how
to
make
a
motion
is
okay.
I
mean
that's
having
that
front
of.
You
is
fine
you're,
not
writing
out
whether
or
not
you
know
beforehand,
you're
just
you
guys
have
a
guideline
for
yourself.
How
do
I
make
a
motion
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
everything
in
so
it's
okay,
if
you
have
something
like
I
just
don't
have
written
in
for
a
specific
application
kind
of
what
you're
you're
doing
there
can.
I
A
I
I
A
Good,
so
really,
prior
to
making
the
motion
just
kind
of
this
summarizes
some
of
the
things
certainly
remember.
We
will
discuss
any
questions
we
might
have
with
the
applicant
then
at
that
after
right
we
do
that.
Remember
that
that's
that's
going
to
go
to
the
public,
and
then
at
that
point
and
then,
of
course,
before
all
that
that's
still
the
middle
one
there.
I
will
already
have
asked
the
administrator
to
go
over
the
application
and
give
their
report
and
then
remember.
A
A
I
don't
know,
is
there
another
slide
or
is
that
what
was
that
it
for
the
discussion
motion
process,
which
we
talked
about
that
already?
So,
of
course,
after
motion
is
made,
everything
is
in
then
I'll,
ask
for
a
second
and
when
you
second,
it
obviously
you're
signing
on
to
to
make
sure
that
the
motion
goes
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
make
sure
the
board
also
understands.
A
A
A
A
C
I
think
the
other
thing
I
don't
know,
I
think
the
other
thing
too.
It's
obvious,
I
mean
we've
seen
it
happen
is
the
applicant.
If
we
are,
you
know,
asking
questions
and
and
the
the
the
answers
aren't
coming
back
in
the
way
the
applicant
wants.
He
can
change
his
application
on
the
fly.
He
can
change
at
that
and
and
that's
where
we
make
modifications
and
vote.
So
if,
if
an
applicant
says
you
know,
you
know
well,
I'd
rather
use
this
kind
of
siding
rather
than
that
kind
of
site.
C
A
Absolutely
we've
had
applicants
until
we
vote
that
you
know
want
to
say
you
know,
hey
look.
I
want
to
go
from
vinyl
siding
to
the
wood
siding
I'd.
Rather
you
know
because
I
it
sounds
like
that's
not
your
finals,
not
you
know,
you
know
whatever
it
is,
I'm
just
making
you
know
something
up,
but
they
can
make
those
changes
and
then
that
ends
up
being
really
their
stated
application.
That's
their
amended
application
at
that
point
in
time
they
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
So
good
good
point,
all
right.