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From YouTube: October 12, 2021 Heritage Preservation Commission
Description
Additional information at
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
B
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic
for
the
record,
my
name
is
madeline
sundberg
and
I
serve
as
chair
of
the
minneapolis
heritage.
Preservation.
Commission
I'll
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roles
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
B
B
B
Our
first
order
business
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
will
go
through
the
agendas
that
are
available
online
I'll,
go
through
and
sort
out
what
items
will
be
continued
to
a
future
meeting.
What
items
will
be
discussed
and
what
items
be
put
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff
and
without
further
discussion
item
number
four,
which
is
724
first
street
north
ward,
3
certificate
of
appropriateness
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda
unless
someone
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendations.
B
B
Okay,
I
don't
see
it
at
the
moment
and
item
number
five,
which
is
30
park,
lane
ward,
7
demolition
of
historic
resource
will
be
discussed
so
the
proposed
agenda.
The
consent
agenda
will
include
item
4,
which
is
seven
two
four
first
street
north
again.
Is
there
any
opposition
to
staff
recommendations
for
these
items
or
anyone
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
to
this
item?
If
you
could
press
star
six-
and
let
me
know
that
you
are
there.
B
Okay,
the
other
item.
Thank
you.
So
item
four
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda
and
we
will
approve
that
item
in
one
motion
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
and
number
five
which
is
30
park,
lane
we'll
have
a
staff
presentation,
public
comment,
commission,
discussion
and
action.
B
C
B
B
B
B
First,
we
will
act
on
the
consent
agenda
that
we
just
set
once
items
are
in
the
consent
agenda
are
approved.
The
commission
is
done
with
those
items.
The
applicants
may
contact
planning
staff
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
After
the
consent
agenda
items
are
approved,
we'll
take
each
remaining
agenda
item
in
order.
First
planning
staff
will
present
this
report
and
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
staff.
Then
you'll
hear
from
the
applicant
and
commissioners
may
ask
questions
the
applicant.
D
G
H
B
Any
other
speakers
in
the
queue
please
remember
to
provide
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
please
keep
your
comments
to
the
specific
application
that
is
before
us
today.
After
the
public
comments
are
complete,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
Commissioners
will
then
deliberate
and
act
on
the
application
before
us,
so
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda
items
which
again,
this
is
item
number
four,
which
is
724
first
street
north
ward,
3.
I
G
E
C
B
You
item
four,
which
is
seven
two
four
first
street
north
ward,
three
is
approved
as
recommended
by
staff
on
the
agenda.
The
applicant
may
contact
playing
staff
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
Our
next
item
is
item
number
5
30
park,
lane
ward
7,
a
demolition
of
historic
resource.
The
staff
report
will
be
presented
by
rob
skelecki
thank.
J
J
The
property
contains
a
one-story
modern
dwelling,
constructed
in
1959
by
tm,
carlson
and
son
for
the
for
the
family
of
dr
oliver
h,
peterson
jr,
the
building
shows
general
l-shaped
massing
with
a
front
gable
wing,
including
a
notable
front
east
elevation
attached
garage
with
alternating
original
vertical
cedar
lap
and
brick
cladding
a
one-story
approximate
25
by
17
foot.
Addition
was
constructed
on
the
side,
which
is
the
south
elevation
between
1969
and
1970..
J
The
rear,
which
is
the
west
elevation,
includes
rectangular
massing
and
retains
significant
portions
of
sliding
glass
doors
and
fixed
glazing
which
overlooks
cedar
lake
windows
throughout
the
home,
appear
to
be
a
mix
of
fixed
sliding
and
awning
windows
which,
aside
from
in
the
addition
location,
appear
to
be
original
available
records
suggest
that
the
only
excusing
that
the
prominent
offset
triangular
deck
at
the
rear
elevation
is
also
original.
Next
slide.
Please.
J
J
Elizabeth,
close
excelled
in
the
professional
architectural
field,
which
was
dominated
by
men
available
records,
suggest
that
women
only
made
up
one
percent
of
registered
american
architects
in
1958,
which
was
around
the
same
time
that
30
park
lane
was
designed
for
their
influence,
innovation,
exceptional
work,
the
firm
of
elizabeth
and
winston
close
later
known
as
close
associates,
are
considered
by
cped
to
be
among
the
greatest
architectural
practices
in
the
history
of
the
city.
However,
the
city
of
minneapolis
has
not
yet
designated
a
property
designed
by
elizabeth
and
winston
close.
J
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
the
existing
building
to
construct
a
new
single-family
dwelling
in
this
location.
The
subject
building
was
proposed
for
demolition
through
a
wrecking
permit
application
in
june
of
2021.
The
applicant
did
not
apply
for
historic
review
letter
prior
to
this,
upon
review
of
the
wrecking
permit
preservation.
Step
notified
the
applicant
that
the
property
appeared
to
meet
at
least
one
of
the
city's
criteria
for
designation
and
thus
required
that
the
proposed
demolition
be
heard
by
the
heritage
preservation
commission
through
a
demolition
of
historic
resource
application.
J
However,
clear
comparative
evidence
is
now
presented
in
the
applicant's
study
to
support
some
of
these
claims.
Next
slide.
Please,
the
department
of
community
planning
and
economic
development
has
analyzed
the
application
to
allow
the
demolition
of
the
building
located
at
30
park
lane,
based
on
the
following
findings
for
significance
in
cped's
review.
The
subject
property
appears
that
it
may
be
eligible
for
local,
designation
under
criterion
4
for
architecture
and
criterion
6
as
the
work
of
master
architects.
J
Under
criterion
4,
the
property
retains
distinctive
characteristics
of
its
modern
architectural
form
that
include
influence
from
eusonium
motifs
of
the
20th
century.
The
subject
property
is
notif
is
notable
as
a
simplified
version
of
this
style,
which
was
designed
by
architects,
winston
and
elizabeth
close
using
their
own
design
palette.
J
The
interior
retains
a
remarkable
level
of
interior
integrity,
including
original
close
details
created
for
the
peterson
family,
as
shown
in
the
original
interior
elevations
and
finishing
plans
from
the
northwest
architectural
archives
original
flooring,
wall
cladding,
built-in
furniture
and
appliances
are
still
present.
Although
some
details
do
appear
deteriorated,
the
only
known
removed,
features
per
permit
and
visual
evidence
appear
to
be
the
wall
section
where
the
1970
edition
was
completed.
J
The
addition
also
retains
a
very
high
degree
of
integrity
to
griswold
and
roma's
original
design
and
ornament,
which
includes
walnut
panel
cladding
room
benches,
raised
floor
area,
cabinets
and
storage.
J
The
dwellings
exterior
design
then
retains
origins
that
are
intact
to
convey
the
distinctive
characteristics
of
the
properties
usonian
inspired
designed
as
actualized
by
elizabeth
and
winston
close
through
their
own
interpretation
and
cped
staff,
finds
that
the
property
holds
significance
under
criterion.
4.
next
slide,
please
for
criterion
6
as
the
work
of
master
architects.
The
property
was
designed
by
the
partnership
of
elizabeth
and
winston
close.
J
The
subject
dwelling
appears
to
be
a
significant
example
of
the
closest
post-war
design
philosophy
which
allowed
for
notable
shifts
away
from
early
their
early
international
designs.
These
newer
shifts
incorporated
greater
use
of
lower
pitched
gabled
shed
or
hipped
roofs
with
white
eaves
built
into
landscapes
and
inspired
by
usonian
motifs.
J
The
subject
property
is
a
rare
extent.
Example
of
this
variation
of
close
design
in
minneapolis,
characteristic
of
winston
and
elizabeth
closes
attention
paid
to
the
property
owner's
needs
and
site-specific
design.
The
property
was
completed
to
the
petersen
family's
specifications,
fitting
into
the
sloping
landscape
leading
toward
cedar
lake.
Other
examples
of
these
types
of
close
dwellings
exist.
However,
the
city
has
not
identified
a
better
more
intact.
J
Additionally,
minneapolis
examples
provided
by
the
applicant
do
not
appear
to
retain
the
same
level
of
integrity
and
support
these
examples,
provided
in
the
study
support
as
well
that
it
was
not
uncommon
for
close
designs
in
the
1950s
close
to
science
of
the
1950s
to
have
been
altered.
J
J
J
The
subject
edition
is
appropriate
for
the
close
design
and
follows
the
design
ethos
of
brazil
and
roma's
practice
changes
that
were
made
to
retain
compatibility
with
the
massing
materials
and
feeling
of
the
original
design
intent
by
extending
existing
wide
eaves
roof
forms.
At
this
elevation
and
continuing
with
the
same
materials
of
vertical
cedar,
siding
and
brick
cladding.
J
Next
slide,
please,
while
evaluating
integrity,
the
properties,
integrity
of
location,
setting
and
association
remain
intact,
notable
alterations
to
the
property's
original
design
are
limited
to
the
1969
to
1970
south
elevation
addition
to
expand
living
area.
The
applicant
argues
that
this
removal
of
the
side
porch
in
this
location
and
this
change
to
access
to
the
rear
yard
from
this
side
as
a
result
of
this
addition,
has
greatly
impacted
the
original
form
of
the
dwelling.
J
J
The
property
then
also
appears
to
retain
a
high
degree
of
material
integrity
with
select
materials
removed
to
facilitate
the
building's
1970
edition
and
permanent
evidence
again
shows
a
standard.
Re-Roofing
project
was
completed
at
the
property
in
1993,
as
really
the
only
change
that
staff
could
find
to
historic
materials.
Following
the
edition,
apart
from
the
location
of
the
edition,
all
vertical
cedar,
siding
masonry
and
windows
appear
original.
J
J
J
When
determining
reasonable
alternatives
to
demolition,
the
owners
have
described
that
alternatives
to
demolition
were
initially
explored,
but
became
cost
prohibitive
or
unrealistic.
When
considering
all
changes,
the
owners
would
have
liked
to
make
to
retain
the
home.
Therefore,
demolition
and
new
construction
was
proposed
to
be
the
more
practical
and
economical
option
for
the
owner
situation.
J
The
property
owners
have
told
staff
that
the
original
design
of
the
the
current
dwelling
influence
the
new
proposed
design
of
the
proposed
dwelling
and
multiple
existing
interior,
both
close
and
griswold
and
rama
features,
are
proposed
to
be
salvaged
and
used
in
the
new
dwelling,
while
alternatives
to
demolition
were
considered.
J
As
for
the
significance
of
the
property,
the
applicant
states
that
the
property
is
not
individually
significant
and
suggests
that
the
property
does
not
meet
local
criteria
for
designation,
stating
the
building
has
been
significantly
altered,
also
stating
that
the
property
is
not
the
best
example
of
a
close
design
dwelling
of
this
era
or
type,
but
it
does
not
offer
or
identify
other
better
examples
in
minneapolis
cped
believes
that
the
property
retains
good
integrity
to
communicate
its
original
design.
Attempt
intent
in
the
1969
addition
to
the
building
was
completed
in
a
compatible
manner.
J
The
dwelling
largely
retains
its
original
character
and
a
notable
amount
of
material
and
design
integrity
to
the
close
design
for
the
peterson
family,
as
confirmed
through
full
drawings
of
the
dwelling
and
its
edition
from
the
northwest
architectural
archives
for
economic
value
or
usefulness
of
the
existing
structure.
Evidence
does
not
exist
to
suggest
that
the
property's
continued
use
as
a
single-family
dwelling
or
any
possible
reuse
would
be
economically
infeasible.
J
J
I
recommend
to
deny
the
demolition
of
historical
resource
application,
establish
interim
protection
and
direct
the
planning
director
to
prepare
a
calls
to
be
prepared.
A
designation
study
of
the
peterson
house
located
at
30
park
lane
with
that
I'm
available
for
any
questions
as
staff,
but
it
does
look
like
the
applicants
and
many
applicant
team
members
are
here
and
are
available
for
questions
and
may
present
as
well.
Thank
you.
C
I
believe
commissioner
strothers
made
a
note.
B
A
My
question
is,
I'm
not
sure
I
may
have
heard
this
incorrectly,
but
rob.
Is
there
any
other
example
of
her
work
that
has
been
protected
in
this
area?.
J
Thank
you,
commissioner,
strothers
from
a
local
preservation
standpoint.
So
from
the
city's
perspective,
no,
there
are
properties
that
you
know
are
from
what
I
understand
in
the
area
from
other
cities
that
may
be
designated
locally,
but
as
far
as
you
know,
local
designation.
In
the
city,
we
have
not
designated
property,
yet
some
do
exist
from
my
understanding
too,
which
are
listed
as
part
of
the
prospect
park,
historic
district,
which
is
in
the
national
register
of
historic
places.
J
Not
to
the
same
level
as
local
designation,
you
know
anything
that's
listed
in
the
national
register
for
stroke
places
as
that's
part
of
the
city.
We
definitely
keep
an
eye
on
if
it
would,
for
some
reason,
come
forward
to
us
for
demolition,
but
the
national
register
of
historic
places
does
not
offer
the
same
protections
as
landmark,
designation
by
the
city.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
thank
you
so
with
that
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
item.
I
believe
the
applicant
is
here
to
speak.
If
you
could
press
star
six
on
your
phone,
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
to
activate
your
microphone,
so
we
can
hear
you
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
It
looks
like
a
number
of
people
from
the
applicant
team
signed
up.
I
have
rachel
peterson
first
on
the
list,
but
if
you
would
like
to
go
in
an
alternative
order,
just
let
me
know
who's
speaking.
K
Hi
this
is
rachel.
Our
presentation
is
going
to
start
with
an
opening
statement
by
keith
luery
one
of
the
owners,
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
double
check
here.
I
had
uploaded
a
powerpoint
presentation
that
I'm
hoping
is
available.
B
Hi
rachel:
let's
see
if
we
can
get
that
powerpoint.
C
I
did
not
recall
seeing
a
powerpoint,
I'm
looking
for
it
now
I'll
get
that
out
as
quickly
as
possible.
Thank
you.
B
L
Hi
good
afternoon,
if
we
can
wait
a
minute
I'll
wait
until
it
comes
up
you'll
have
to
let
me
know
when
that
happens.
Since
I
can't
see
it.
C
Miss
peterson,
I'm
so
sorry
I
did
not.
I
don't
see
it
in
our
spreadsheet
here
for
signups.
Is
there
any
way
you
would
be
willing
to
send
that
presentation
if
rob
would
be
willing
to
send
it
to
rob
and
then
rob?
If
you
could
send
that
to
online
meetings,
then
we
can
get
it
displayed,
I'm
so
sorry
for
the
confusion.
Folks.
D
K
J
It
has,
and
I've
just
forwarded
it
on
online
meetings,
so
hopefully
they
should
read
it
soon.
Thank
you.
L
Okay,
well,
thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
keith
luery
and
my
wife,
barbara,
is
also
here
today.
We
both
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
our
perspective
with
you
about
our
house
on
30
park
lane
and
regret.
We
cannot
present
to
you
in
person,
as
we've
just
seen,
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
all
have
with
the
current
approach,
but
I'm
glad
it's
working.
L
So
at
least
you
get
a
chance
to
get
a
picture
of
us
on
this
first
slide
with
our
agenda
and
a
few
pictures
from
the
outside
the
inside
of
park
lane
taken
a
few
days
ago.
The
views
from
the
outside
are
from
the
north
and
south
arms
of
the
u-shaped
driveway
barbara,
and
I
have
lived
in
minneapolis
for
the
past
30
years,
we're
both
professors
in
the
school
of
medicine.
At
the
university
we
bought
30
park
lane.
Two
years
ago
we
were
excited
to
live
on
the
city
on
cedar
lake.
L
L
L
L
It
was
only
after
we
filed
for
a
demolition
permit
that
we're
told
we
had
to
undergo
historical
review
at
this
late
stage
in
the
process
to
build
a
new
house,
we
feel
like
the
rug
has
been
pulled
out
for
underneath
us.
We
love
minneapolis.
This
is
home,
but
we
have
to
say
our
trust
and
confidence
in
minneapolis
has
been
shaken
since
by
this
process.
Since
this
time
by
this
process
and
the
extraordinary
late
review
by
the
hpc
staff,
once
we
learned
of
the
need
for
historic
review
before
a
demolition
permit
would
be
issued.
L
L
It
was
not
maintained
by
the
petersons
near
the
ends
of
their
lives.
I
regret
that
members
of
this
commission
could
not
see
this
house
in
person.
The
floors
are
in
disrepair
and
decay.
The
ceiling
is
in
disrepair
and
leaking.
There
is
mold
and
mildew
everywhere.
All
you
have
to
do
is
walk
into
the
house
to
smell
it.
The
roof
was
sagging.
The
deck
was
deemed
too
dangerous
to
walk
on
by
our
own
spectrum
ago.
Off
the
house,
the
bedroom
section,
including
where
the
master
bedroom
is
located,
is
dark,
cramped
and
in
great
disrepair.
L
Our
neighbors
have
told
us
that
there
is
so
much
ice
damming
in
the
winter,
over
the
walk
that
long
walkway
to
the
front
door
that
she
would
not
allow
her
kids
to
visit
as
it
was
too
dangerous
because
of
the
falling
ice.
The
original
owner
literally
had
to
put
a
snow
blower
up
on
the
roof
to
clear
ice
and
snow
and
never
managed
to
avoid
the
huge
ice
stands
due
to
issues
of
the
roof
design.
L
We
recognize
the
importance
of
celebrating
the
first
woman
who
has
been
recognized
as
a
master
architect
in
minnesota.
We
are
all
too
familiar
with
a
lack
of
recognition
for
the
work
of
women.
My
wife,
barbara,
was
the
first
woman
to
become
a
full
professor
in
the
department
of
anesthesiology
at
the
university
of
minnesota.
More
than
90
years
after
the
department
was
started.
L
Sure
became
many
challenges
to
achieve
that
position
as
it
relates
to
elizabeth
close.
We
believe
that
there
are
other
fine
examples
of
her
work
in
the
city
that
are
worthy
of
designation,
but
not
this
house
we
did
not
buy
a
publicly
accessible
building
like
a
commercial
building
or
hotel.
We
did
not
buy
a
museum.
L
L
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
make
these
comments.
Next,
we'd
like
to
hear
from
our
designated
contractor
kareem,
rita
of
anderson,
vita
construction.
B
N
Hello
am,
I
am
I
on.
N
N
N
Also
much
of
the
grading
around
the
house
is
neutral
or
negatively.
Sloped
water
is
getting
into
the
house
and
has
damaged
the
insulation,
the
ceiling
skylights
and
it's
well.
Beyond
its
15
to
20
year,
life
expectancy,
the
extended
overhangs
have
sagged
significantly
over
time,
causing
the
original
crisp
lines
to
wave
up
and
down
over.
Those
long
runs
next
slide.
Please.
N
N
The
deck
has
rotten
wood
in
both
structure,
as
well
as
the
flooring
and
railing
the
railings
are
not
capable
of
stopping
someone
from
falling
and
are
generally
unsafe.
N
Much
of
the
grading
along
the
sides
of
the
house
is
not
currently
code
compliant
causing
water
not
to
drain
away
from
the
foundation
fast
enough.
The
result
is
a
damp
basement
with
the
presence
of
mold
which
anyone
can
smell
when
walking
into
the
house.
We
had
professionals
take
air
samples
throughout
the
home
and
found
mold
mold
particulates.
N
The
air
quality
consultant
recommended
the
additional
measures
to
reduce
the
amount
of
mold
in
the
basement.
The
foundation
wall
that
is
visible
inside
the
mechanical
room
has
a
horizontal
crack.
That
is
also
showing
signs
of
failure
that
wall
needs
to
be
reinforced
and
the
foundation
waterproofing
needs
to
be
corrected.
On
the
exterior
side,
as
well.
N
Lastly,
the
transit
ductwork,
which
is
below
grade
with
no
vapor
between
vapor
barrier
between
it
and
it,
and
the
moist
ground
results
in
excess
moisture
in
the
ductwork
possessing
mold
spores
and
spreading
them
throughout
the
home.
The
ductwork
needs
to
be
rerouted
below
the
ceiling
of
the
lower
level,
which
in
turn
reduces
the
ceiling
height
below
seven
feet.
N
We
also
tested
and
found
a
great
deal
of
asbestos
and
lead-based
paint,
both
inside
and
outside
the
house,
all
of
which
need
to
be
remediated.
The
asbestos
was
found
in
all
of
the
exterior
soffit
panels
around
the
perimeter,
the
flooring,
tiles
and
adhesives
kitchen
sink
and
again
portions
of
the
window
glazing.
N
The
asbestos
would
need
to
be
abated
for
any
renovation,
and
this
would
impact
a
significant
amount
of
finishes
and
fixtures
in
and
outside
the
house
inside
the
house
there's
a
great
deal
of
deferred
maintenance
that
needs
to
be
repaired.
The
maintenance
ranges
from
worn
out
carpet
and
leaking
tub
surrounds
to
water
stained
ceiling
panels
that
need
to
be
replaced,
and
everything
in
between
the
stair
railing
also
currently
does
not
meet
code
to
prevent
children
from
falling
through.
N
You
know
all
houses
require
maintenance
and
periodic
updating
to
thrive,
fixtures
and
flooring,
wear
out
roofing
windows
and
siding
degrade
after
years
of
battling
our
harsh
conditions.
Unfortunately,
all
of
this
properties,
maintenance
and
interior
upkeep
have
been
neglected
since
the
home
was
built
in
1960.,
it's
in
dire
need
of
a
comprehensive
renovation.
N
We
put
together
an
estimate
to
not
only
repair
the
structural
issues,
but
also
bring
the
home
up
to
a
finished
level
commensurate
with
that
of
the
neighborhood,
repairing
renovating
landscaping
and
landscaping.
The
property
would
cost
just
over
2.3
million
dollars.
The
cost
of
these
repairs
added
to
the
property's
purchase
price
makes
the
renovation
an
exceptionally
expensive
project,
especially
for
a
small
single
family
house.
Given
this
information,
we
decided
that
renovating
the
house
was
not
economically
feasible,
alternative
and
decided
to
move
forward
with
a
new
construction
project.
N
You'll
see
some
of
that
window
staining
the
foundation,
that's
correct
and
and
just
kind
of
what
the
terminal
interior
looks
like.
So
that
is
that
is
my
piece
and
I
believe
rachel
will
be
going
next.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
I
am
here,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
all
right
so
hello
again,
I'm
rachel
peterson,
I'm
a
principal
with
hester
royson
company
and
I'm
going
to
be
covering
30
park,
lanes
history
and
contextualizing
it
with
it
within
the
work
of
close
associates
and
the
firm's
founders.
Elizabeth
and
winston
close.
K
K
K
The
firm
had
a
couple
of
different
names
over
its
history,
but
is
most
often
referred
to
by
its
later
name
close
associates
in
scholarly
studies
and
as
staff
noted
close
associates
was
one
of
minneapolis's
earliest
modern
architecture
firms
and
its
founders,
elizabeth
and
winston
close
have
been
recognized
as
master
architects.
K
They
both
did
and
they
married
the
pair
opened
their
own
firm
in
1938,
and
their
first
commission
was
252
bedford,
street
and
prospect
park,
which
is
at
the
upper
left
here
during
the
firm's
early
years.
The
closest
established,
a
clear
architectural
palette
that
was
based
in
the
international
style
and
elizabeth
close
in
her
own
words
later
remarked
that
flat
roofs
and
redwood
siding,
quote
sort
of
became
our
vocabulary
for
quite
a
long
time
and
looking
at
their
portfolio
closes.
K
The
close
associates
used
this
form
in
these
materials
over
several
decades
and
was
still
designing
with
those
vocabulary
in
the
late
1950s.
When
thirty
park
lane
was
constructed,
several
architectural
historians
and
critics,
including
larry
millette,
linda
mack
and
jane
concussion,
have
established
that
flat
roofs,
foxy
forms
and
redwood
siding
are
true.
Hallmarks
of
close
designs.
K
K
K
Both
of
these
projects,
along
with
1940
east
river
terrace,
were
called
out
in
the
recent
elizabeth
post
biography
as
notable
examples
of
her
work
and
I'll
also
note
that
252,
bedford
and
222
melbourne,
along
with
two
other
close
properties,
are
listed
in
the
national
register.
As
part
of
the
prospect
park,
residential
historic
district,
the
closest
did
fairly
commonly
experiment
with
different
forms
and
mappings
and.
K
K
K
Many
of
these
were
in
the
suburbs
or
in
outstate
minnesota,
and
during
this
period
they
also
worked
on
many
remodeling
projects,
so
the
house
we're
seeing
here
is
30
park.
Lane
close
associates
began
designing
the
property
in
1957
and
it
was
built
in
1959
at
that
time,
minneapolis
was
experiencing
a
real
boom
in
single-family
residential
construction.
K
As
noted
in
the
minneapolis.
In
the
modern
era,
historic
context,
8746
new
single-family
houses
were
built
in
minneapolis
during
the
1950s,
so
30
park.
Lane
is
one
of
thousands
of
houses
of
this
era.
In
the
city,
plans
for
the
project
were
drafted
by
close
associate
staff.
They
were
not
personally
signed
off
on
by
elizabeth
or
winston
close,
and
the
house
was
also
designed
in
close
coordination
with
the
homeowner
jean
peterson
understanding.
The
features
that
are
typical
of
close
associates
designs
is
important
when
analyzing
how
this
house
fits
into
their
portfolio.
K
The
patio
was
cited
to
provide
views
of
cedar
lake
possible
view.
Sheds
were
really
carefully
considered
by
closest
the
closest
when
they
were
designing
residential
properties,
and
this
patio
was
an
example
of
that
attention
to
detail
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
aerial
photo
at
the
lower
right
from
1962.
These
site
features
created
a
very
strong
circulation
route
from
the
front
of
the
house
and
park
lane
to
the
lake
facing
west
facade,
so
30
park
lane
was
not
designed
in
the
international
style.
K
It
had
a
an
l-shaped
plan
and
low-pitched
roof
was,
which
was
different
than
close
associates,
typical
features
and
forms,
and
it
is
worth
noting
that
this
property,
while
it
is
different
from
their
their
usual
work,
it
does
not
represent
a
significant
phase
in
elizabeth
and
winston's
careers
or
in
close
associates
work.
K
They
continue
to
design
in
the
international
style
throughout
their
careers
and
just
had
these
little
experiments
or
forays
into
different
forms
occasionally
so
because
this
is
not
emblematic
of
a
significant
phase
of
their
careers
and
is
not
an
example
of
what
they
did
best.
It
shouldn't
be
held
up
as
a
significant
example
of
their
work
to
really
exemplify
the
close
associates.
Work
of
property
really
should
demonstrate
what
they
did
best
and
what
they
were
known
for
and
for
the
closest
that
is
the
international
style
next
slide.
Please.
K
Griswold
and
rama
are
called
out
in
the
minneapolis
and
the
modern
era,
historic
context
as
notable
modern
architects.
According
to
alan
lathrop,
however,
they
are
best
known
for
their
large-scale
institutional
and
multi-family
projects,
and
this
residential
addition
is
not
a
meaningful
example
of
their
work.
K
K
At
the
south
end,
the
original
design
had
a
strong
visual
connection
between
the
interior
kitchen
and
the
patio
at
this
location,
which
was
created
by
this
large
corner
window
and
additional
windows
on
the
original
south
facade
this
new
or
added
southeast
addition,
in
contrast,
is,
has
a
lot
more
masonry
and
is
very
solid,
and
that
makes
for
a
significant
change
from
the
close
associates,
design
intent
for
this
area.
K
The
addition
also
has
a
lower
eve
than
the
original
house,
which
continue
contributes
to
its
again
rather
closed
and
dark
character
and
also
adds
more
complexity
to
that
roofline.
K
So,
again,
close
associates
really
strive
for
minimal
efficient
designs
in
this
addition
created
complexity,
where
there
was
never
intended
to
be
complexity
and
therefore
it
diminishes
the
property's
ability
to
communicate
close
associates
original
design
for
this
property
and
their
original
design
vision
next
slide.
Please.
K
The
house
was
surveyed
by
meet
and
hunt
in
2006
and
was
not
determined
or
not
identified
for
further
evaluation
at
that
time,
and
the
recent
book
by
jane
king
hessian
also
did
not
identify
this
project
as
significant
within
close
associates,
portfolio
or
elizabeth
close's
career
and
as
staff
notes
under
criterion.
One
many
modern
houses
were
built
in
minneapolis
during
this
period,
especially
near
cedar
lake,
nearly
9
000
single-family
homes
were
built
in
the
city
during
the
1950s,
so
this
is
just
one
example
of
thousands
and
is
also
noted
by
staff
under
criterion
3.
K
There
are
numerous
other
collections
of
modern
residences
in
this
city
that
are
more
noteworthy
and
more
worthy
of
local
designation.
K
This
property
at
30
park
lane
is
a
a
rather
mid-tier
example
of
a
fairly
common
property
type
and
is
not
therefore
worthy
of
designation
and
under
criterion.
Six,
a
property
needs
to
exemplify
the
work
of
master
architects
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
designation,
and
this
means
that
not
all
projects
designed
by
a
master
architect
will
meri
designation.
Only
those
that
truly
exemplify
their
work
do,
and
it
is
well
established
that
elizabeth
and
winston
close
were
master
architects
but
30
park.
K
The
firm
excelled
at
international
design
and
clearly
established
an
architectural
vocabulary
that
typifies
a
closed
house,
and
it
was
this
flat
flat-roofed
foxy
design
that
they
were
known
for,
and
that
is
what
they
were
best
at
close
associates,
were
also
fairly
prolific.
Architects,
who
designed
many
local
projects
and
while
30
park
lane,
is
before
the
commission
for
review
today.
K
So
four
criteria,
significance
under
criterion,
four
or
six,
which
are
for
the
style
or
design
of
a
property
properties,
should
retain
a
higher
level
of
historic
integrity,
to
communicate
that
style
or
that
hand
of
the
the
master
and
30
park.
Lane
has
some
fairly
notable
hit
to
its
historic
integrity.
The
sizable
addition
by
griswold
and
rama
removed
site
features
that
communicated
close
associate's
original
design
vision.
K
It
also
removed
significant
site
features
that
were
an
important
part
of
the
original
design
approach,
and
those
are
all
points
that
we
hope
the
commission
keeps
in
mind
when
looking
at
this
this
project,
so
in
in
some
well,
when
looked
at
within
the
context
of
the
close
associate
portfolio
30
park,
lane
does
not
stand
out
as
a
good
example
of
their
work
and
certainly
does
not
exemplify
their
work.
Therefore,
it
does
not
meet
local
landmark
criteria
and
does
not
merit
designation
at
this
time.
B
Thank
you
rachel,
barbara.
Are
you
there
right.
P
P
So,
as
you've
heard
two
years
ago,
we
purchased
a
home
that
was
not
designated
as
being
architecturally
significant,
and
we
had
no
reason
to
believe
that
it
was
after
extensive
deliberation.
We
proceeded
with
thoughtfully
designing
a
new
dwelling
that
honored
the
site,
the
prospect
of
the
property
and
the
neighborhood
as
we
developed
those
plans.
We
shared
them
with
our
immediate
neighbors,
who
would
be
the
most
impacted
on
this
small
residential
street.
We
were
delighted
by
their
positive
response
and
enthusiasm.
P
P
You
will
hear
that
today
from
our
neighbors
who
are
deeply
concerned.
You
have
just
heard
that
the
recommendation
from
the
city
planner
to
deny
demolition
on
the
grounds
with
this
house
is
of
architectural
significance.
We
have
also
heard
highly
respected
architectural
historians
strongly
refute
that
view
at
the
end
of
the
day.
What
is
perplexing
to
me
is
this:
who
is
being
served
here?
Who
benefits
by
declaring
this
private
home
on
a
small
residential
street,
a
landmark
just
because
a
building
is
old,
does
not
render
it
valuable
nor
worthy
of
preservation.
P
B
Okay,
commissioners,
are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant
team.
B
Don't
I
don't
see
any
raised
hands,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
public
comments.
B
So
again
we
will
take
the
list
of
pre-registered
speakers
in
order
and
then
open
the
floor
to
any
other
speakers
who
may
be
in
the
queue
I'll
ask
that
each
speaker
provides
their
name
and
address
before
making
their
comments
for
the
record,
and
when
I
call
your
name,
if
you
could
press
star
6
and
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
to
activate
your
microphone
so
that
we
can
hear
you
some
of
these
people
on
the
list
might
be
on
the
applicant
team
and
only
here
for
questions.
B
If
that's
true
just
let
me
know
that
you
don't
have
any
comments
and
that's
fine,
I'm
just
gonna
go
in
the
order
of
list
that
I
have
so.
The
next
name
I
have
on
the
list
is
a
julie,
zell.
Q
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
my
name's
julie,
zelly
and
I
live
at
right
next
door
to
30
park
lane
at
28
park
lane,
and
I
am
here
to
oppose
the
recommended
motion
to
deny
the
demolition
at
30
park
lane.
Q
The
possible
designation
of
the
existing
house
as
a
protected
historic
resource
is
not
well
supported
by
facts.
You've
just
heard
there
are
many
higher
quality
structures
in
the
area
by
elizabeth
close,
none
of
which
are
protected
by
historic,
designation
and
further
that
the
original
design
was
irretrievably
compromised
by
subsequent
additions
and
modifications.
Q
Q
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
am
convinced
that
the
analysis
by
the
current
owner
is
completely
valid.
To
conclude,
my
husband
and
I
support
construction
of
the
proposed
lurie
gold
house.
We
have
reviewed
the
design
and
plans
at
every
step
and
believe
it
is
sensitive
to
the
neighborhood
and
will
be
a
truly
fitting
contribution
of
value.
Q
It's
reasonable
to
expect
that
without
the
new
construction,
the
exist,
the
existing
structure
will
remain
unoccupied
and
will
continue
its
decay
for
years
to
come,
charlie-
and
I
are
outraged
by
the
unfair
process
the
owners
have
been
put
through
this
past
year
and
by
the
unreasonable
recommendations
that
defy
common
sense
before
this
commission.
Thank
you.
L
R
R
I'm
going
to
echo
the
security
concern
of
my
neighbor
julie,
it's
obviously
vacant.
It's
becoming
an
eyesore
and
it's
a
true
security
concern
for
our
neighborhood.
The
longer
it
sits
empty,
the
greater
the
rail,
my
observations
of
the
house.
This
is
minnesota
and
it
is
just
simply
an
unfortunate
design
that
the
low
pitch
and
wide
overhangs
are
exposed
to
the
south
and
southeast
sun.
R
It
was
my
children
who
were
not
allowed
to
go
over
because
the
icicles
hung
so
low
that
even
their
small
arms
could
reach
up
and
touch
them.
The
heavy
weight
and
ice
has
taken
a
toll
on
the
house.
The
property
has
a
very
strong
odor.
You
don't
have
to
go
inside
to
smell
it,
so,
as
I
saw
the
current
owners
over
there
a
couple
of
days
ago,
I
brought
in
an
industrial
scope
and
I
wanted
to
see
it
myself.
R
R
I
know
I'm
not
an
expert,
but
I'm
going
to
make
say
something
about
architects.
I
have
a
concern
calling
30
parklane,
a
close
house
jean
knew
a
thing
or
two
about
architecture.
I
had
conversations
with
her
and
I
know
she
was
proud
of
the
role
that
she
played
in
the
original
design
and
especially
the
remodeling
expansion.
R
R
R
They
got
to
age
in
place,
they
were
able
to
die
at
home
and
they
allowed
the
home
to
age
in
place
as
well.
I
recall
no
major
improvements
or
upgrades
in
the
25
years.
I've
lived
here
and
there's
no
evidence
of
any
repairs
of
late,
and
I
have
to
tell
you
nothing
gets
past
me.
I
love
construction.
I
dumpster
dive.
R
R
R
B
Thank
you.
The
next
name
is
cindy
welton.
M
Hi,
I'm
cindy
welton
at
26
park,
lane
two
doors
down
from
30
park
lane.
Thank
you
for
preparing
your
presentation.
I
reviewed
the
report
and
conducted
an
online
search
myself,
so
I
could
better
understand
elizabeth
close's
work.
I
really
needed
to
understand
how
30
park
lane
might
serve
as
a
historic
resource.
M
M
M
They
sold
the
property
two
years
ago
without
historical
conditions
to
spring
this
condition
on
the
luries
two
years
into
the
process
is
unfair
and
I
believe
it's
unreasonable
to
burden
them
now
with
reconstructing
a
house.
That's
not
a
pure
representation
of
closes
work.
I
support
the
city
in
issuing
a
demolition
permit.
M
If
the
city
refuses
to
issue
the
permit,
I
suggest
the
structure
could
be
moved
to
another
location
by
a
preservation
group
and
refurbished
by
them
to
allow
the
public
to
experience
it.
All
of
us
who
live
on
park
lane
walk
around
the
neighborhoods
and
there's
a
frank,
lloyd,
wright
home
on
the
other
side
of
the
channel.
M
B
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
The
next
name
I
have
on
the
list
is
lucy
peterson.
E
Well,
I
am
the
daughter
of
bud
and
jean
who
originally
built
the
home,
and
I
just
thought
I
would
give
a
bit
of
a
bit
further
history,
personal
history
of
it,
and
we
lived
across
the
street
while
the
house
was
being
built-
and
I
moved
in
when
I
was
two
years
old.
So
I
don't
recall
the
the
move.
Obviously,
but
the
I
do
know
that
we
heard
a
lot
about
the
pro
the
process
of
its
building.
E
My
mother
had
a
degree
in
architecture
from
the
university
of
minnesota
and
that's
where
she
learned
of
the
closest
work
she
had
winston
close
as
a
professor
there,
and
they
chose
elizabeth
close
because
she
was
local
and,
of
course,
because
of
the
style
of
housing
that
she
designed,
and
it
was
preferred
by
predominantly
my
mother,
because
she
had
the
architectural
training,
but
during
the
process
of
it
being
built,
she
was
present
every
day
and
worked
closely
with
the
with
the
she's,
the
primary
carpenter,
to
assure
that
the
design
was
followed
closely.
E
And
so
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
close
attendance
of
the
work.
E
Then,
when
the
addition
was
seen
to
be
needed
and
increasing
the
southeastern
exposure
in
the
family
room,
they
chose
john
ramah,
who
was
a
neighbor
and
long-term
friends,
family
friends,
and
he
came
out
of
retirement
to
design
the
addition
for
mom
and
dad,
and
I
know
they
discussed
that
edition
extensively
with
him.
The.
E
The
I
just
have
one
comment
from
the
president
and
owner
of
close
associates,
gar
hargens,
and
he
said
that
I
could
share
this
with
the
meeting
and
says
this
is
a
classic
mid-century,
modern,
home
and
vintage
early
close
associates
designed
with
a
low
slope,
roof
deep
eaves
with
characteristic
rafters
tails
soffits
and
I
suspect
precious
redwood
siding
this.
E
The
sitting
of
the
house
and
its
unpretentious
street
face
is
classic
for
the
whole,
the
close
in
this
lakeside
setting
how
this
elevation
should
be
saved
and
reused,
even
if
other
portions
of
the
house
need
to
be
altered
and
having
grown
up
and
lived
at
30
park
lane
until
the
sale
at
my
after
the
death
of
my
mother,
I've
known
the
house
to
be
a
place
of
beauty.
I
don't
think
one
fully
appreciates
the
beauty
of
until
of
one's
home
until
later
in
life,
but
growing
up.
E
E
E
The
I
fully
endorse
the
right
of
the
present
owner
to
do
with
the
property
what
he
wishes,
but
I
also
wanted
to
express
that
I
believe
the
beauty
and
the
feel
of
the
art
of
this
home
is
best
appreciated
by
saving
or
reusing
the
the
house.
B
That
is
all
the
people
who
have
pre-registered,
so
I
would
like
to
open
the
floor
and
check
to
see
if
there
are
any
other
speakers
who
may
have
not
pre-registered.
If
you
could
press,
if
you,
if
you.
D
Haven't
already
hello,
I
I
did
pre-register,
I'm
not
sure
what
happened.
D
My
name
is
bill
pentelovich
and
I
have
lived
at
six
park
lane
for
nearly
38
years
and
during
those
years
I
have
seen
five
houses
on
our
block
torn
down
and
replaced,
and
virtually
every
other
house
on
the
block
has
gone
through
at
least
one
and
sometimes
several
major
remodelings
to
the
best
of
my
recollection.
The
sole
exception
is
30
park
lane
which,
in
my
memory,
has
not
had
any
major
significant
renovation
in
all
the
nearly
four
decades
I've
lived
here.
D
I've
read
all
of
the
material
posted
online
relating
to
today's
hearing,
and
I
don't
feel
qualified
to
comment
on
whether
this
house
is
a
worthy
example
of
the
work
of
the
closes,
nor
where
any,
whether
any
of
their
work
is
worthy.
Being
the
subject
of
historic
preservation.
D
I
understood,
based
on
what
I
read
and
basically
what
I've
heard
here
today.
The
closest
are
best
known
for
their
homes
in
the
international
style,
rather
than
the
modernist
style,
and
I
would
note
that
there's
already
an
international
masterpiece
on
our
block,
the
kauffman
house,
which
has
long
been
designated
a
historic
landmark.
D
I
decided
to
speak
today
because
over
the
four
decades,
nearly
four
decades
I've
lived
here,
I
felt
that
30
park
wave
is
sadly
out
of
place
on
our
street.
It
would
be
more
appropriately
sited
in
the
south
of
north
tyrol,
areas
of
golden
valley,
or
perhaps
somewhere
in
edina,
unlike
every
other
house
on
our
block
30
park.
Lane
does
not
have
a
welcoming
facade
facing
the
street.
D
D
I
am
sure
that
they
love
that
house
and
took
great
pride
in
it
and
in
the
conversations
I
had
with
gene
over
the
year,
I
didn't
realize
that
there
was
somebody
other
than
her
involved
in
designing
the
house.
I
knew
that
she
had
an
architecture
degree
and
my
impression
was
always
that
gene
was
the
architect
of
the
house.
I
was
quite
surprised
when
I
learned
all
of
this
reading
the
material
online
that
somebody
else
was
involved.
D
I
was
in
the
house
many
times
when
bud
and
jean
lived
there,
both
before
bud's
passing
and
after
and
I've
been
in
it
once
since
it's
been
sold.
The
house
as
you've
heard,
is
in
very
poor
physical
condition,
and
you
know
just
from
my
layman's
observation.
I
think
that
the
estimate
of
over
two
million
dollars
to
rehabilitate
it
to
its
original
condition
is
well
within
the
ballpark
of
what
that's
going
to
cost.
D
Yet
if
the
house
were
rehabilitated
to
its
original
position,
I
don't
think
it's
a
house
that
most
people
would
want
to
live
in
or
that
would
fit
any
better
onto
our
block.
The
bedrooms
are
small
and
dark,
and
very
much
consistent
with
sort
of
the
architectural
philosophy
of
frank,
lloyd
wright.
D
D
D
I
am
pleased
to
see
that
it
presents
a
much
more
welcoming
facade
to
the
street
and
I
think
it
will
engage
with
the
neighborhood
far
better
than
the
structure.
That's
now
there.
I
would
urge
you
not
to
do
anything
to
further
inhibit
the
worries
from
demolishing
it
and
proceeding.
D
D
We
had
another
house
on
our
block,
that's
been
sitting
empty
for
20
years,
the
owners
died
and
their
children
decided
not
to
sell
it,
but
to
visit
it
once
a
year.
The
new
owners
of
that
house,
as
they
have
and
the
house
finally
was
sold
after
20
years
being
vacant.
This
past
summer,
the
new
owners
have
found
far
more
rot
and
structural
damage,
the
house
than
even
they
had
been
able
to
discover
before
they
began
renovating
it.
D
D
I
think
that
trying
to
preserve
this
house
is
going
to
be
a
much
bigger
project
than
even
the
contractor
who
spoke
earlier
thinks
it's
going
to
be,
and
I
think
that
there
is
no
sound
reason
from
prohibiting
the
luries
from
moving
on
in,
as
other
neighbors
have
said,
it
will
be
a
benefit
to
block
and
have
something
new
there.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
what
I
had
to
say.
B
B
There
I
don't
see
any
commissioners.
I
wanted
to
just
check
again
to
see
if
you
had
any
questions
regarding
any
of
the
public
comments
before
I
close
the
public
portion.
B
B
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
the
materials
specifically
the
asbestos,
as
well
as
the
presence
of
mold
in
the
home.
Those
things
can
be
mitigated,
but
it's
not
always
easy,
so
I
can
understand
how
the
owner
the
new
owner
feels
about
that.
I'm
curious
what
other
commissioners
think
as
far
as
this
house
in
the
close
associates
portfolio
another
I
don't
know
what
other
people's
reactions
were
to
this
application.
F
I
understand
completely
the
homeowner's
frustration
with
the
process
that
they've
apparently
gone
through
and
I'm
I
we
can
only
speak
to
to
what's
before
us,
but
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
frustration
and
and
then
just
trying
to
get
through
what
this
application
before
us
is,
I'm
a
little
frustrated
with
the
the
assessment
that
we
were
given.
F
I
feel
like
the
assessment
that
we
were
given
really
just
compares
this
house
to
the
the
first
two
decades
of
the
close
portfolio
and
I'm
having
a
tough
time,
placing
this
house
within
the
portfolio
that
goes
beyond
elizabeth,
didn't
retire
until
1992,
and
so
we
have
a
large
portfolio
that
isn't
really
addressed
in
the
documentation
before
us.
F
I'm
also
a
bit
frustrated
that
there's
nothing
showing
the
the
addition
in
the
portfolio
of
griswold
and
maroma,
who
are
also
considered
master
architects,
but
I
know
nothing
about
their
residential
design
or
their
addition
design
of
addition.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
to
review
this
information
and
say
yep,
it's
it
should
be
designated
or
nope
it
shouldn't
be
designated.
F
I
feel
like
I
don't
have
enough
information
before
me
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
get
that
information
is
to
do
a
designation
study
that
actually
meets
the
the
the
requirements
of
a
designation
study,
and
then
that
means
using
the
the
modern
era
context
which
was
barely
mentioned
in
the
documentation
provided
by
the
applicant.
So
so
I'm
really
I'm
really
I'm
really
on
the
fence
on
this
one.
I'd
love
to
know
what
other
commissioners
are
thinking.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
am
I
share.
Commissioner
howard's
concerns.
I
think
that
we
don't
have
adequate
information.
I
still
don't
feel
like.
I
really
know
what's
out
there
for
architect
close
and
what
else
might
be
protected
or
is
already
or
could
be.
So
I
agree
with
her.
I
don't
think
we
have
enough
information.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
strothers.
I
I
agree
that
more
information
is
useful
and
it's
I
know
for
the
applicant
that
this
is.
This
is
hard,
because
this
is
like
almost
the
pre-step,
because
the
next
step
would
give
us
that
information,
and
but
I
I
recognize
that
it
all
takes
time
and
that
that
is
frustrating
could
any
other
commissioners
with
thoughts
on
this
application.
G
Yeah
this
one
is
a
bit
hard
to
comment
on
and
I
I
am
torn
as
well,
because
I
think
that
the
frustrations
about
you
know
what
you
can
do
with
your
property
are
valid
and
that
they,
you
know,
seem
to
have
taken
a
lot
of
care
and
making
sure
that
their
neighbors
and
the
replacement
house
would
be
something
that
would
be.
You
know
good
for
the
neighborhood
and
that
they've
clearly
laid
out
a
really
good
argument
about
why
the
house's
condition
might
have
a
hindrance
on
you
know.
G
I
mean
the
economics
alone,
I
think,
would
be
you
know
pretty
steep
for
a
single
family
home,
especially
one
that
hasn't
been
designated
yet.
But
you
know,
I
think
that
I,
my
gut,
is
kind
of
also
leaning
into
the
direction
of
you
know.
There
is
so
much
that
we
don't
know
yet
about
like
the
context
for
the
architect,
as
commissioner
howard
pointed
out,
and
I
think
that
yeah
it's
very
it's
much
of
I'm
also
torn.
G
So
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
motion
that
I'm
willing
to
make
yet,
but
I'm
interested
to
see
what
others
have
to
say
too.
O
I
also
don't
necessarily
have
a
motion
to
make,
but
I
definitely
see
the
frustrations
of
the
homeowners
on
this,
but
I
agree
with
all
of
you
not
feeling
like.
I
have
adequate
information
on
this,
especially
considering
we
only
saw
some
of
the
earlier
works
of
the
close
associates
so
yeah,
I'm,
unfortunately,
don't
have
anything
new
to
add,
but
other
than
actually
I'm
just
like
agreeing
with
you
guys,
then
this
one
is
really
tough,
I'm
really
torn,
because
I
can
only
imagine
how
frustrating
it
is
to
be
the
homeowner
but
yeah.
Q
Q
B
B
Is
there
anyone
else
any
other
commissioners
with
comments
on
this
application?
I
That
you
could
write
I'll,
be
honest
with
you
guys.
I
could
go
either
way
on
this.
This
reminds
me
of
our
conversation
about
the
the
knutson
building.
I
We
wanted
to
engage
the
study
because
we
didn't
feel
we
had
sufficient
information
to
move
forward,
which
I
think
is
the
general
consensus
I'm
getting
here,
but
this
this
building
feels
less
even
less
likely
to
to
reach
the
bar.
In
my
opinion,
based
on
my
rate
of
the
information
we
have
and
the
reports
we've
received
so
far
so
so
I
I
would
be
comfortable
approving
the
demolition.
If
we
feel
like
we
have
some
fine.
I
The
findings
would
be
that
this
this
this
building
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
exemplary
example
of
this
architect's
work
and
that
it's
addition,
inappropriate
editions
further
reduce
its
eligibility
for
that,
and
that
would
be.
That
would
be
sufficient
findings
in
my
opinion,
but
I
would
be
interested
to
hear
what
some
other
commissioners
have
to
say.
G
Yeah
I
wanted
to
so
what
krishna
vander
ike
was
just
saying.
There
was
a
thought
that
crossed
my
mind
above
you
know,
I
wasn't
around
for
the
knutson
building
discussion
so,
but
I
did
read
about
it
and
I
think
that
I
had
a
similar
feeling
about
what
the
the
ultimate
finding
would
be
with
a
designation
study,
and
I
think
that
the
applicant
team
did
lay
out
a
really
strong
argument
against
why
it
would
be
designated
already
with
the
integrity
with
the
architect.
G
So
I
yeah,
I
think
that
I'm
interested
to
see
what
commissioner
stadi
motion
will
be.
So
I
will
let
him
speak.
H
I
I'd
like
to
move
to
approve
the
demolition
of
the
historic
resource
that
we
are
discussing
with
the
finding
that
there
are
better
examples
in
minneapolis
of
this
architect's
work,
including
the
lippincott
house,
which
is
protected
by
not
as
not
the
local
designation
but
the
national
designation
prospect
park
and
with
the
findings
that
commissioner
vander.
H
I
mentioned
that
you
know
there
are
better
examples
of
the
architect's
work
and
the
the
addition
does
not
hurts
the
case
for
the
designation
of
the
house,
as
well
as
the
current
inhospitable
conditions
of
mold
and
asbestos
and
other
structural
issues
with
the
house,
not
maybe
being
built
for
minnesota
winters.
H
So
that,
that's,
I
guess
my
start
and
then
I
also
would
add
if
we
could
do
some
mitigation
saying
that
when
possible,
they
reuse
historic
materials
from
the
interior
in
the
new
building.
As
I
found
that
the
owners
are
open
to.
B
Mr
stadi,
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
your
emotion.
So
are
you
moving
that
it
is
not
a
historic
resource
or
that
it
is
a
historic
resource
and
the
destruction
of
the
resources.
H
Necessary,
I
should
have
read
that
I
I
would
approve
the
demolition
of
the
of
the
house,
the
single
family
dylan
at
30
park
lane
with
the
the
findings
that
I
mentioned,
and
I
won't
mention
any
historic
resources.
B
I
Before
we
vote,
I
just
want
to
I
want
to
say
to
to
the
applicants
and
and
to
to
staff
for
the
record
on
my
end.
You
know
none
of
the
these.
These
situations
are
always
difficult
and
a
big
part
of
our
job,
and
our
duty
is.
I
I
understand
that
this
is
a
really
difficult
process.
It's
important
to
understand
that
the
city
staff's
role
in
this
is
to
evaluate
each
individual
building
on
its
own
merits
and
so
and
the
merits
compared
to
the
different
interior
standard
birds
and
all
of
that
that
eventually
make
the
building
rise
to
a
level
of
historic
significance
or
not,
and
there
along
that
way,
there's
steps.
I
There's
policy
right,
it's
the
government,
so
that's
the
way
this
works,
and
so,
while
I
understand
the
applicant's
frustration
as
well
as
all
the
other
neighbors
frustration
in
this
process,
I
I
would
ask
that
you
give
some
grace
to
our
to
our
staff
that
they've
they're
working
very
hard
to
to
do
to
make
the
best
decisions
provide
us
on
hpc
the
best
possible
recommendations,
and
then
it's
ultimately
our
job
to
evaluate
and
make
decisions
going
forward
from
there.
So
well,
it
feels
like
this
process.
I
I
Or
a
building
to
look
at
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
as
a
statement
for
the
record
that
I
I
truly
appreciate.
Neighbors
and
the
applicant
providing
all
the
information
in
their
direction
today,
and
I
also
truly
appreciate
all
the
effort
of
our
city
staff
and
providing
us
the
information
that
they
were
able
to.
So
I
think
now
we
can
take
a
vote
unless
anybody
else
has
anything
to
add.
I
B
You,
commissioner,
vandarek:
I
wanted
to
check
with
staff
to
make
sure
our
findings
made
sense
and
and
met
met,
the
requirements
that
they
need
to.
If
staff
is
clear
on
everything.
J
C
Oh,
she
she
has
left
the
meeting.
My
apologies,
commissioner
stadi.
I
C
B
Thank
you.
The
motion
passes.
That
concludes
our
public
hearing
items.
Thank
you,
everyone
who
came
and
attended
the
meeting.
We
appreciate
the
public
weighing
in
on
things,
commissioners
or
staff.
Are
there
any
announcements
or
new
commission
business
to
discuss.