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From YouTube: August 4, 2021 Pedestrian Advisory Committee
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A
You're
all
right,
thank
you.
Welcome
everybody
to
the
august
4th
2021,
full
pedestrian
advisory
committee
meeting
and
just
to
notice
that
this
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
phone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency.
Pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statute,
section
13d,
021,
hi
everybody
and
welcome
thanks
for
being
here
today.
C
E
B
B
E
A
B
C
D
B
I
F
B
I
J
F
H
How's
that
that's
much
better.
Thank
you.
We
met
on
july
15th
from
4
30
to
6
the
ine,
and
we
had
four
presentations
on
that
meeting.
The
first
one
was
the
bryant
avenue
reconstruction
with
liz
hayman,
trey
joyner
and
from
minneapolis
public
works.
This
is
a
plan
that
is
at
30
and
due
to
present
to
the
city
council
on
august
11th
for
at
the
transportation
public
works
committee.
H
They
have
moved
the
transit
line
from
bryant
avenue
to
lindale
avenue
and
are
putting
up
protected
bike
lanes
and
wider
pedestrian
spaces
more
green
spaces,
they're
using
chicanes
and
and
other
traffic
combing
strategies
to
slow
traffic
down,
and
the
pack
was
very
support
for
the
most
part.
The
pack
was
very
supportive
of
this.
This
particular
presentation.
It
seemed
to
really
align
itself
with
city
policies,
and
we
were
very
pleased
about
that.
H
We
did
have
questions.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
moving
of
transit
to
glendale
and
how
that
might
possibly
negatively
impact
people
that
were
using
transit,
but
it
was
explained
to
us
that
it's
really
only
two
blocks
and
they're
very
short
blocks.
I
know
that
I
live
there,
they're
very
short
and,
and
it
felt
that
it
was
felt
that
that
was
linda
was
a
much
better
option
for
transit
than
bryant.
H
If
it,
if
it
had
to
be
on
bryant
bryant
would
have
to
have
been
a
much
narrower,
we
would
have
less
room
for
bicycles
and
pedestrians
and
they
weren't
satisfied
with
that
design,
and
so
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
and
there
were.
There
was
a
lot
of
comments
of
support
for
how
much
this
design
supported
the
the
policies
of
minneapolis
right
now
and
some
of
the
the
packs
that
the
pac
has
supported
as
well.
H
A
H
H
H
There
is
another
bridge
not
very
far
from
this
on
the
other
side
of,
I
think
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
creek
or
the
other
side
of
railroad
yards,
I'm
not
sure
what
it.
I
can't
remember
that,
but
there's
another
bridge
adjacent
to
this
on
the
north
side,
and
if
the
question
was
asked
during
this
presentation,
why
they
weren't
going
to
do
both
bridges
at
the
same
time,
that
seemed
maybe
more
efficient,
but
there
were
reasons
why
they
couldn't.
H
H
The
other
thing
we
did
talk
about
is
putting
benches
on
the
bridge
and
maybe
railings
that
have
seats
if
they
can't
afford,
if
they
can't
do
benches,
but
that
it's
nice
to
have
places
where
people
can
sit
and
enjoy
the
bridge
in
the
elevated
view.
So,
okay,
that
was
it
for
cedar
lake
road
reconstruction,
the
bridge
reconstruction.
Can
we
move
on
to
phillips
traffic
safety
project?
H
Thank
you,
melissa.
This
is
also
at
zero
percent.
This
was
presented
by
mike
samuelson
and
sylvie
wizan.
I
think
that's
how
you
say
her
name.
These
are
all
these
are
streets
between
on
24th
avenue
or
24th
street
26th,
street
and
28th
street
in
south
minneapolis,
between
cedar
at
hiawatha,
actually
and
chicago
all
four
of
these
streets.
I
are
high
injury
streets,
which
means
they
have
lots
and
lots
lots
of
issues
on
these
streets
and
they
all
need
to
have
traffic
calm.
H
We
talked
a
lot
about
how
dangerous
these
streets
are.
There
are
lots
and
lots
of
children.
There
are
several
schools.
Anderson
school
is
on
this
and
there
are
several
early
learning
centers,
the
the
regular
early
learning
center
connected
with
that
neighborhood
and
also
another
private
one
is
the
southside
family
nurturing
center,
all
of
which
have
many
preschoolers
and
toddlers
using
buses
and
walking
sometimes
to
schools
and
walking
home
across
streets.
So
this
is
an
important
place
where
safety
needs
to
really
be
considered.
H
H
We
also
suggested
to
this
team
look
at
the
lindelof
north
safety
project,
which
we
have
recently
reviewed.
We
thought
that
was
a
really
good
project.
We
hope
they
would
look
at
that
and
take
many
of
those
ideas
into
consideration.
We
also
express
brave
concern
about
26th
and
28th
streets,
interaction
with
park,
avenue
and
portland
avenue.
These
are
very
dangerous
intersections
and
we
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
that.
We.
Finally,
we
talked
about
the
need
for
marked
pedestrian
crossings
at
the
exit
from
35w
on
to
28th
street.
H
E
H
Can't
thank
you.
The
resolution
for
bryant
avenue
reconstruction.
The
pedestrian
advisory
committee,
fully
supports
the
bryant
avenue
reconstruction
design
that
will
create
a
two-lane,
one-way,
convergent
street
on
bryant
avenue
south.
We
also
support
the
transfer
of
transit
to
lindeal
avenue,
which
will
accommodate
the
creation
of
a
safe
and
protected
bikeway
on
bryant
avenue.
We
are
happy
to
see
the
cedar
pop
city's
policies
enacted
in
this
project
and
expect
to
see
projects
from
public
works,
align
with
policies.
As
this
one
does
the
rest.
Okay,
we
need
to
vote
on
those
as
we
read
them
abigail.
A
G
G
There's
a
lot
to
like
on
bryant
avenue,
but
are
we
we
don't?
We
don't
bring
up
the
resolutions
to
say
what
we
like
about
him,
though
right
the
the.
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
about
the
transit
about
the
transit
portion,
you
know,
I
think
we
were.
You
know
we
were
finessed
on
that.
You
know.
I
think
we
often
are
like
the
city
often
is
on
it's
where
it's
like.
Well,
it's
bus
or
or
bikes.
It's
not
you
know.
Bus
or
parking
or
bikes
are
parking.
G
It's
like
where
that's
that's
just
a
choice.
We
get
that
the
you
know
that
the
project
people
get
get
finessed
into
by
the
users
as
well.
I
don't,
I
don't
think
I
don't.
I
don't
think.
Transit
on
lindale
is
better
than
transit
on
bryant
when
a
lot
more
people
love
on
bryant.
You
know
what
except
there's
a
nose-ish
noise
issue.
That's
zero-sum!
You
know
just
the
the
noise
doesn't
go
away,
just
get
shifted
to
lindell,
but
I'm
going
to
vote
for
the
resolution.
H
H
L
H
H
F
L
F
F
F
G
If
anybody
can
answer
this
matthew
or
chris,
christopher
anybody
or
chris
anybody,
does
the
bac
have
a
anything
approaching
a
standard
position
on
what
they
prefer?
As
far
as
like
a
two
one-way
bike
lanes
versus
one
two-way
bike
lane
and
they
have
a
vary
a
lot
by
project,
or
would
you
say
they
have
a
state.
L
Sorry
good
good
point,
I'm
glad
to
wrap
that
up.
Actually
they
they
have
been
asking
staff.
If
their
engineering
meeting
they
asked
staff
there's
an
option
for
basically
closing
the
bridge
to
cars,
so
that's
kind
of
there,
that's
kind
of
where
they're
at
otherwise
protected,
they're,
interested
and
protected,
like
you
are.
A
H
M
B
A
M
H
The
pedestrian
advisory
committee
expressed
many
concerns
regarding
these
high
injury
streets
and
we
hope
they
will
be
headed
that
will
be
heated
during
the
design
and
engineering
of
this
project.
We
request
converting
both
26
and
28
into
two-way
streets
to
discourage
speeding
one
lane
in
each
direction.
H
We
also
have
grave
concerns
for
26
and
28
streets
as
they
cross
portland
and
park
avenues.
These
are
very
dangerous,
intersections,
bump
outs
and
or
medians
all
traffic
calming
strategies
need
to
be
included
here,
hopefully
in
collaboration
with
hennepin
county.
Finally,
we
would
like
all
legs
of
the
intersection
at
the
35w
exit
onto
28th
street
to
have
pedestrian
marked
zebra
striped
crosswalks.
E
F
F
H
E
E
D
A
C
E
B
B
A
G
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that,
or
was
like
sort
of
spurred
their
two
things
that
spurred
their
their
return,
one
was
on
the
automatic
pedestrian
recall
situation.
That
is
where
users
can
approach
the
intersection.
That's
controlled
with
walked
on
lock
science
and
get
a
walk
sign
without
neces,
without
having
to
press
a
button
to
get
that
walk
a
lot
along
with
the
along
with
the
green
cycle.
E
G
Okay
and
the
we
had
some
kids,
we
wrote
a
resolution
because
we
had
some
concern
about
well
wanted
to
address,
reinforce
our
the
facts,
posture
towards
automatic
ministry
call,
which
was
four
square
behind
and
in
in
in
in
the
since
they
were
since
last
year,
a
lot
of
them
were
moved
to
automatic
pedestrian.
Recall
25
had
since
been
returned
to
beg
button
operations.
We
wrote
resolution
to
to
talk
about
that
and
that's
forthcoming
julia.
What
else
in
that?
G
We
also
talked
about
science,
this
sign
positioning
for
temporary
construction
projects.
I
want
to
I'll
talk
about
it
real
quickly,
because
the
upside
of
that
is
very
is
turned
out
to
be
very
what
I
took
to
be
very
simple.
That
is
where
we
see
signs
interfering
with
us
with
the
pedestrian
realm
or
blocking
bike
lanes
for
that
matter
or
our
sidewalks,
where
they
shouldn't
be.
That
is
the
temporary
place.
Signs
of
you
know
road
work
ahead,
that
sort
of
thing
that
come
and
go
with
the
seasons.
G
The
upshot
from
from
signalization
ellen
directed
us
to
the
project
managers
of
the
specific
project,
which
are
usually
approachable
directly,
but
also
you
know,
direct
direct
complaints,
corrections
to
them
through
through
three
one
one:
we've
had
various
our
user.
Our
pac
members
have
had
various
luck
and
dislike
approaching
311
with
these
issues,
but
I
I
felt
like
we
came
away
and
I
like
julia's
opinion
on
this
or
anybody
else
who
was
there
too,
but
I
felt
like
we
got
specific
direction
on
on
that
which
is
like
just
you
know.
G
It's
been
a
pain,
a
pain
in
everybody's
side,
just
putting
too
big
of
a
sign
on
the
sidewalk
when
they
have
smaller
size,
they
can
put
them
up,
they
need
to
block
if
they
need
to
put
them
on
the
sidewalk,
there's
no
room
in
the
street,
etc.
Anyway,
julia
did
you
did
that
felt
like
good
direction.
What
did
you
think
julia.
G
On
signalization,
the
resolution
reads
as
follows:
that
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
calls
on
the
city
to
make
automated
automatic
pedestrian
recall
at
all
traffic
signals
the
default
condition.
By
doing
so,
the
city
will
be
acting
in
accordance
with
the
transportation
action
plan,
complete
streets
policy
and
the
spirit
of
the
ada
since
enabling
automated
pedestrian
recall
across
90
percent
of
city
traffic
signals.
Last
year
the
sea
has
returned
25
intersections
to
beg
button
operation
where,
unless
a
person
is
able
to
reach
and
press
a
button,
no
walk
signal
accompanies
the
green
light
cycle.
G
G
Automatic
recall
is
critical
basic
non-motorized
transportation
infrastructure,
where
one
there
is
no
actuation
system
in
place
to
detect
people
biking
and
two
timely
and
thorough
snow
and
ice
clearance.
That
said,
buttons
is
lacking
when
traffic
signals
are
programmed
to
be
actuated
rather
than
automatic.
The
costs
of
these
choices
are
born
almost
entirely
by
those
who
are
already
the
most
marginalized
and
most
at
risk.
In
our
current
transportation
systems.
G
F
F
A
L
J
I
I
wanted
to
raise
it
for
a
discussion.
I
know
that
the
one
piece
of
advice
I've
been
given
that
I've
ever
heard
is
to
not
refer
to
this
button,
but
I
also
rather
than
actuate
it,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
make
the
choice
to
do
so,
it's
a
conscious
choice
because
it's
something
that
apparently
it
can
be
taken
in
fighting
words.
G
L
L
Yeah,
I
appreciated
how
julia
framed
that
I
think,
like
sort
of
casually
referring
to
it
as
as
big
buttons
is
one
thing,
but
like
it's
not
a
big
button,
it's
automatic
recall
it's
a
push
button
I
mean
so
I
don't
know,
but
if,
if
you
want
it
for
a
certain
effect,
that's
fine
too,
but
it's
just
you
know.
I.
J
Think
it
is
a
big
button,
but
my
understanding
is
public.
Works
is
very
sensitive
about
it
being
referred
to
in
in
by
that
name,
even
though
that's
how
that's
the
colloquial
name
so
if
to
stay
on
public
works
good
side,
I
think
we
use
actuated.
If
this,
if
we're
ready
to
just
you,
know,
start
getting
rolling
up
our
sleeves,
I'm
fine
with
bag,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
the
one
making
that
choice
I
would
default
to
actuated,
but.
J
And
then,
just
to
give
context
for
this,
alan
shared
with
us
some
interpretations
that
are
happening
within
his
department
around
what
the
transportation
action
plan
means
when
it
talks
about
defaulting
to
automatic,
recall
and
the
there
was
kind
of
an
implication
in
how
he
was
framing.
It
was
that
there
might
be
a
lot
of
places
where
the
the
actuation
would
be
necessary,
based
on
how
they
would
prioritize
vehicle
traffic
and
that
it
would
not
almost
be
like
a
default
to
actuated
still,
but
with
more
openness
to
automatic
recall.
G
It's
never
been
clear
to
me
and
if
I
would
have
asked
this
question,
had
I
thought
of
it,
but
I
mean
what
what
is
the
inconvenience
perceived
or
otherwise,
by
giving
a
walk
signal
to
a
driver?
What
is
the
what
I
mean
and
I'm
not
going
to
make
arguments
or
asking
me
to
make
arguments
for
drivers,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
difference
is.
It's
just
a
segment
of
the
light
where
there's
a
walk
signal.
The
light
is
no
longer
or
shorter.
G
There's
a
walk
signal
made
available
to
people
who
are
at
the
who
are
crossing
the
intersection,
particularly
those
who
don't
get
there
right
in
time
to
press
the
button.
So
it's
confounding
what
the
what
the!
What
the
rationale
at
all
is
when
it
as
as
regards
track
driver
movement
or
draft
movement.
J
The
best
I
could
make
out
from
what
alan
was
saying
was
that,
because
they
they
program
our
system
to
operate
as
an
entire
grid,
it
gets
really
complicated
really
fast.
So
if,
if
it
were
programmed
just
light
by
light,
what
you're
saying
would
make
sense,
but
because
they're
doing
it
in
sets
to
run
platoons
of
vehicles
to
prioritize
their
movement,
it
means
that
it
would
turn
into
like
longer
longer
cycles,
which
also
delays
pedestrians.
So.
G
That's
not
the
case,
though
I
mean
I
I
mean,
and
that
the
light
the
light.
I
don't
see
the
light
cycle
itself
going
from
red
to
green,
doesn't
change.
It
goes.
That's
that
time
does
not
have
to
does
not
have
to
change
relative
to
the
walk.
Don't
want
part
of
it,
so
I
it
just
confused
me
right
still
not
clear
to
me.
I.
J
A
E
A
Don't
I
I'm
not
sure-
and
maybe
someone
in
public
works
knows
more,
but
I
also
thought
that
part
of
the
reason
was
actually
the
light
cycle
is
shorter,
so
say
like
here
on
25th
and
hennepin
before
they
changed
it
to
automatic
recall.
If
I
don't
press
the
button,
the
green
light
for
people
crossing
hennepin
or
coming
off
of
25th
is
actually
shorter
because
they
don't
have
to
adhere
to
ada
requirements
of
how
long
it
takes
someone
to
cross
the
street
if
they
press
the
button.
A
J
It
does,
but
it
like
it,
so
if
you
think
of
it
as
sort
of
a
red
light,
green
light
as
one
complete
cycle
that
stays
fixed
in
the
amount
of
time
given,
so
it
might
be
like
a
three-minute
cycle
to
get
every
direction
going
and
in
actuated
buttons.
That
means
that,
there's,
depending
on
how
they're
actuated
there's
it
still
is
three
minutes
being
divvied
up
in
different
ways,
including
never
turning
green
for
side
street
traffic.
If
it's
not
actuated.
So
it's
like
a
three.
A
J
D
G
G
D
G
Bike
and
scooter
use
bike
and
scooter
share
where
it's,
where
it's
going
kind
of
the
the
the
experience
of
and
the
writing
of
an
rfp
do
this
in
october
to
solicit
and
solicit
responses
from
vendors
on
on
bike
and
scooter
share.
There's
a
the
big
focus
of
their
presentation
was
you
know,
an
expansion,
continuing
expansion
of
the
mobility
hub
concept,
which
ties
in
as
many
of
these
concepts
as
possible,
along
with
existing
transit
and
expanding
programs.
G
We
want
to
get
in
our
advice
or
our,
and
we
asked
how
we
can
present
input
and
recommendations
and
our
desires
for
the
for
the
rfp
daniel.
Let
us
know
they
were
coming
up.
It's
coming
up
very
quickly,
so
we
we
wrote
a
resolution
that
quickly
to
pass,
hopefully
here
with
guidance
from
the
full
membership
and
to
and
to
have
ready,
get
back
to
danielle
as
possible.
G
Literally
three
people
were
who
was
what
was
cited.
It's
just
it's
dominating
their
time
with
non
just
taking
pictures
of
non-violating
behavior
like
a
scooter
in
the
middle
of
the
street
or
a
scooter
parked
where
they'd
end.
This
one
should
be,
but
non-violent
behavior
anyway
anyway.
So
I
want.
We
wanted
to
really
cite
the
the
ideas
to
cite
the
manager
or
the
mobility
manager
and
staff
for
their
roles
in
making
this
program
a
success
in
the
face
of
this
kind
of
just
for
this
plane
being
aggressive,
loud
abuse.
G
G
G
We
see
the
success
of
micro
mobility
service
in
minneapolis,
even
in
partial,
your
partial
year,
riding
seasons
and
within
a
new
and
quick
shifting
industry.
Data-Driven
studies
show
that
complaints
and
injuries
are
few
in
number
less
than
one
one
thousandth
of
a
percent
and
hundreds
of
thousands
of
rides
micro
mobility
defies
a
miniscule
set
if
aggressively
loud
and
mean
of
opponents
by
providing
proving
itself
safe,
wildly
popular
and
fun.
G
E
N
I'll
just
say
I
like
the
last
paragraph,
especially
broadening
it
to
you,
know
other
geographic
regions.
I
was
probably
most
disappointed
in
that
presentation
that
the
university
neighborhoods
and
surrounding
neighborhoods
were
left
out
of
their
pilot
program
and
I
get
that
they
were
prioritizing
different
needs,
but
yeah.
I
was
just
disappointed
in
that.
So,
however,
we
could
advocate
for
a
broader
geographic
range
of
these
hubs.
I
certainly
we
should
do.
G
For
sure
austin,
especially
as
they've,
you
know
as
it's
such
a
dense
area
for
those
modes
as
well,
you
know
people,
not
just
people,
but
they
you
know
they
they've.
You
know
nice
ride
just
about
the
bike
right.
The
bike
part
of
it
carved
out
special
rules
for
helpful
rules
for
the
for
the
university
area.
J
N
N
I
don't
know
if
it's
student
populations
or
if
you
want
to
specifically
say
the
55414
zip
code.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
that,
but
something
that
does
say
like
hey,
don't
forget
about
the
university
just
because
the
university
looks
over
resourced.
There
are
still
a
lot
of
folks
here
that
could
benefit
from
this
resource,
particularly
because
we
have
the
high
volume-
and
we
do
have.
You
know
a
very
diverse
population
of
folks
that
live
in
our
neighborhoods
around
the
university.
A
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
pilot
or
like
from
now
on,
like
absolutely
have
to
be
in
acp
50
neighborhoods.
So
I
also
know
that
that's
why
they
were
they
were
where
they
were,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
that
was
part
of
the
restriction,
and
then
I
know
that
they
said
they
were
talking
to
the
u
of
m
about
creating
their
own
mobility
hubs.
So
maybe.
N
A
Want
to
talk
about
supporting
the
work
with
the
that
I
think
they're
already
doing,
to
bring
those
hugs
in,
because
I
agree
with
you
and
I
I
think,
whatever
their
their
range
and
percentage
requirements
are
for
where
they
put
them.
I
think
that
the
you
should
almost
be
like
a
special
kind
of
separate
entity
that
gets
a
lot
of
hubs.
G
I
B
J
They
said
it
was
specifically
at
least.
The
impression
I
got
was
that
it
was
because
of
complaints
and
there's
a
heavy
element
of
it
sounds
like
it.
The
complaints
seem
to
be
coming
out
of
a
place
of
racism
for
the
most
part,
but
it's
not
just
about
redistribution.
They.
The
understanding
that
I
have
is
that
it's
because
of
who
they
think
uses
them
and
the
complaints
again
about
who
uses
them
kind
of
they
do.
E
A
So
do
you
think
that
in
the
second
to
last
paragraph,
where
we
talk
about
no
that's
really
about
the
mobility
hub
services,
I
see
maybe
this
the
paragraph
we
see
the
success
even
in
partial
year-
writing
seasons.
Maybe
at
the
bottom
we
can
talk
about.
I
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
where
to
put
just
a
quick
sentence
that
says
we
believe
that
these
services
should
be.
C
E
J
D
A
A
F
E
E
K
G
I
I
E
E
G
All
right
sounds
complete
by
people
being
quiet
and,
if
that's
so,
I
will
move
on
to
our
final
item,
which
is
simply
a
resolution
that
stemmed
from
a
previous
ine
previous.
I
e
work.
So
we
we
wanted
to
address.
I
forgot
which
project
that
came
out
of,
but
some
county
project
where
we
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
address.
G
We
asked
them
about
being
able
to
change,
speed
limits
or
post
speed
limits,
and
that's
where
we
we
learned
or
were
reminded
that
they
were
that
they
were
not
at
the
county,
was,
is
governed
by
the
state
in
terms
of
designing
and
posting
speech.
So
this
week
I'll
read
the
resolution
and
it
will
that's
the
and
and
then
I
think
that
will
explain
what
I'm
just
trying
to
say.
G
I
got
it
down
here
all
right,
and
here
it
is
it's.
It's
a
resolution
addressing
the
hennepin
county,
speed
limit
authority
and
where
we
say
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
calls
on
hennepin
county
to
seek
and
secure
general
authority
to
design
and
post
at
the
city-wide
speed
limit
of
not
more
than
25
miles
per
hour.
G
The
pac
believes
the
county
should
have
full
control
over
speed
limits
on
its
streets.
They
should
not
be
prevented
by
state
preemption
from
conforming
to
minneapolis,
speed
limits
set
for
safety
and
for
giving
people
and
motor
vehicles
a
traveling
speed
suited
to
enjoying
our
city
rather
than
racing
through
it.
That's
the
end
of
that's
the
resolution.
F
A
G
A
A
D
J
A
J
C
I
just
have
one
more
one
comment
and
I'm
I'm
not
wedded
to
this
or
anything,
but
you
know
the
last
bit
about
you
know
the
conforming
to
minneapolis
speed
limits
set
for
safety.
I
think
that's
good
and
then
the
rest
of
it
and
for
giving
people
more
vehicles,
traveling,
speed
and
suited
to
enjoy
our
city
rather
than
racing
through
it.
It
just
seems
kind
of
casual
to
me
in
comparison
to
the
rest
of
it.
G
G
C
Well,
I
you
know,
I
just
keep
thinking
about,
I
don't
even
remember
which
county
person
it
was,
but
they
they
presented
maybe
last
year
something
that
well
franklin
can't
be
slower,
because
people
people
apparently
commute
across
the
entire
metro
on
franklin
avenue,
which
is
insane.
Nobody
does
that,
but
you
know
so
I
get
kind
of
where
they
would
be
pushing
back
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but.
E
C
F
G
Was
trying
to
say
is
like
it's
like
if
we,
if
we
we're
not
by
writing
something
like
that,
we're
not
we're
not
in
a
lot
of
ways
we're
acknowledging
that
we
are,
we
are
imposing
a
burden
on
a
driver
or
we're
we're
punitively
addressing
them
by
lowering
a
speed
limit
which
is
which
is
not.
I
don't
think
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
present
it
another
way
and
I'm
looking
at
the
last
sentence
there,
where
we
we
pick
it
up
from.
G
A
To
me,
really
it's
just
about
like
setting
speed
limits
that
are
safe
for
all
modes
like
right
now
the
speed
limit
is
less
safe
for,
if
you're,
not
in
a
car
right
and
so
to
me,
it
would
just
be
setting
speed
limits
conforming
to
the
same
minneapolis
speed
limits
that,
like
you,
know
that
that
increases
safety
for
all
modes.
So
to
me,
I
just
would
stick
to
the
safety
side
of
it.
But
that's
just
me
and
again,
I'm
not
like
I'm.
J
E
A
I
I
agree
on
because
I
agree,
but
county
will
just
say:
well,
that's
not
our
goal
where
our
goal
is
to
get
people
through
our
roads.
So
so
I'm
just
trying
to
speak
to
what
hennepin
county
actually
has
stuff
on
the
books.
That
says,
we
believe
in
safety
for
all
whatever
you
know
like
fewer
deaths
on
our
streets
like
they're
they're,
they
do
have
safety
goals,
but
they
don't
have
initiatives
to
not
have
people
drive
through
the
city
right.
That's
still
an
initiative.
A
J
I
don't
know
if
they
have
something
to
say
that
the
roads
are
there
to
support
commerce
or
to
serve
any
function
besides
moving
people
from
point
a
to
point
b,
but
that's
how
they've
been
framed
in
the
past,
so
I
see
it
more
as
safety
doesn't
seem
to
be
compelling
them
to
act,
and
nor
has
it
at
any
point,
so
I
find
dropping
it.
The
point
you
make,
I
think,
is
good,
but
our
lives
alone
are
not
enough
for
them
to
act.
N
G
Yes,
I
think
that
goes
along
yeah
and
that's
a
good
good
edit,
and
that
would
lead
me
to
change
same
traveling
speed.
That's
like
this.
A
slower
speed
suited
greater
safety
increase
the
increased
livability
instead
of
the
same
traveling
speed,
the
us,
the
slower
speeds
or
yeah
this
yeah,
the
us,
whatever,
whatever
works,
grammatically,
they're,
slower,
speed
or
speeds.
N
N
F
O
N
B
B
B
C
B
B
E
J
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
this
resolution
kind
of
came
out
of
informal
processes
and
observations
from
people
on
the
pack,
so
especially
for
new
members.
If
there's
things
that
you
notice
things
that
you
wonder
if
we've
passed
anything
on
or
that
you're
noticing
patterns,
please
consider
bringing
up
and
seeing
what
what
happens,
because
we
certainly
don't
only
have
to
be
reactive
in
what
we
talk
about
in
the
resolutions.
We
have.
A
A
A
It
will
be
shorter,
so
you
will,
you
will
need
to
log
in
and
we'll
still
conduct
the
meeting,
but
I
think,
as
co-chairs,
maybe
just
consider
that
we'll
probably
maybe
we
won't
read
anything
but
the
resolutions.
So
when
you,
when
you
show
up
to
the
meeting
like
come
ready
and
we're
gonna
passing
what's
gonna
happen
is
if
you're,
available,
interested
and
and
the
weather
is
of
cooperating.
A
The
meeting
will
be
short
because
we're
hoping
to
in
person
meet
up
outside
at
the
government,
plaza
rail
station
or
like
outside
the
henneman
county
government
building
in
minneapolis
city
hall,
where
we
usually
meet
for
our
september
walking
meetings,
and
this
will
be
more
of
just
a
social
walk.
Because
again
the
meeting
will
be
online
and
the
goal
would
be
that
once
we
kind
of
finish
conducting
all
the
business
we
need
to
conduct
at
the
september
meeting
online,
but
then
together.
A
A
So
you're
welcome
to
come
if
you're
able,
otherwise
we'll
see
you
of
course
online
as
always,
and
then
when
it
comes
to
that,
I'm
gonna
open
the
floor
for
questions
on
that
and
then
I'm
gonna
open
the
floor,
for
if
anybody
has
ideas
for
maybe
where
we
should
walk
to
on
our
little
mile
mile
and
a
half
little
kind
of
meander
if
the
weather
suits
us
on
september
1st.
So
let's
open
the
floor
for
questions
and
or
ideas.
J
J
F
F
A
L
Open,
but
we
could
we
could
like
look
at
it
and
then
also
the
waterworks
project
is
kind
of
nearing
completion.
I
believe
I
mean
that
could
be
kind
of
cool
to
take
a
look
at
too
so
that
area
and
then
mndot's
gonna
have,
I
know,
that's
gonna
be
coming
to
you
all
soon,
but
they're
gonna
do
some
work
on
the
stone
arch
bridge,
that'll
impact
the
deck,
and
I
mean
not
that
not
that
we
need
to
look
at
it
to.
J
E
G
J
E
J
A
A
L
L
J
L
Remembering
we
should,
we
should
do
fourth
street
hennepin
and
eighth
little
loop,
because,
because
of
how
like,
like
those,
were
designed
sort
of
in
succession
over
years
and
and
there's
some
differences
and
some
growth
and
things
like
that,
that
could
be
really
interesting
and
it'd
keep
a
fairly
tight
tight
walk.
That
could
be
made
comfortable
for
everyone.
E
A
Okay,
I
wrote
these
down
and
then
I'll
look
at
a
map
and
I'll
just
try
to
like
map
it
out
and
then
I'll
be
downtown
another
day
and
I'll
look
at
hennepin
downtown
to
make
sure
that,
like
the
route
we
pick
has
at
least
you
know
like
a
an
accessible
walkway
and
then,
but
we
all
know
where
we're
meeting
in
september,
if
you
can
make
it
otherwise,
of
course,
we'll
all
be
online
and
if
you
have
any
notes
or
ideas
in
the
interim,
we
can
talk
about
them.
Does
that
sound
good.
A
You
can
show
up
in
person
outside
at
4
pm
and
log
in
to
the
meeting
online
on
your
phone
or
tablet
or
whatever
works
for
you
and
then
or
if
you
don't
have
that
yeah
or
you
can
call
in
right.
So
if
you,
even
if
you
have
a
flip
phone,
you
could
call
in
the
telephone
number
and
if
you
don't
have
one
of
those
and
you
show
up
and
someone's
comfortable
like
like
I'm
going
to
share
with
neil
I'm
comfortable
with
that
we'll
look
at
the
screen
together.
A
But
if
you
can't
make
it
in
person
at
four
o'clock
to
you
know
it's
at
government
plaza.
You
know
the
rail
station
so
like
in
city
hall,
like
that
little
park
in
front
of
hennepin
county
center.
If
where
we
always
meet
on
the
september,
walk
if
you,
if
you
and
then,
if
you
can't
meet
in
person,
you
can
just
log
in
the
way
you
log
in
at
home,
like
you
did
today.
So
that's
how
we'll
all
meet,
because
the
meeting
and
all
the
actual
meeting
meeting
stuff
will
all
be
online.
A
J
L
A
Great
yeah,
so
just
sorry,
so
this
meeting
is
just
a
little
odd
because
we're
not
we're
not
just
an
in-person
group
cool,
I'm
excited
about
it
and
so
fingers
crossed
the
weather.
Is
nice
and
then
you'll
be
getting
a
follow-up
email
closer
to
the
date
itself?
Maybe
that
monday
or
maybe
like
once
the
agenda,
comes
out
I'll,
just
send
a
follow-up
email,
reminding
everybody
where
we're
meeting
with
a
map
of
our
route
and
what
to
expect
if
the
weather
holds
for
us
matthew.
O
A
M
L
It
is,
it
has
not
necessarily
been
discussed,
but
I
guess
I
guess,
as
an
announcement,
it's
important
to
point
out
that
it
is
now
required,
if
you're
in
city
buildings
to
have
a
mask
and
so
that
that's
the
main
thing
that
has
happened
there.
There
has
not
been
discussion
about
specifically
abc's
and
and
how
will
how
we'll
transition,
but
you
can
sort
of-
maybe
guess
or
you
know
like
I.
I
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
be
back
in
person
as
soon
as
we
thought
we'll
just
say
that.
M
Well,
I,
what
I
was
wanting
to
say
is
I've
decided
I'm
going
to
retire.
This
online
meeting
stuff
just
is
not
working
for
me
and
I'm
pretty
burned
out
from
it.
I
mean
because,
like
when
we're
together,
we
we
discuss
one
amendment
or
one
thing
at
a
time
as
far
as
those
things,
what
do
you
call
them?
I
can't
think
of
a
word
right
now.
We
just
voted
on
some
of
them.
M
Resolutions
yeah,
we
vote
on
one
at
a
time
when
we're
together,
but
when
we're
online
and
stuff
like
that,
you
have
to
go
through
each
person's
name
and
all
that,
and
so
then
you
wrote
it
all
together
by
the
time
you've
done
editing
on
on
all
three
of
them.
I've
lost
track
of
what's
going
on
in
the
first
one
and
because
I
can't
see
to
read
it
and
it's
just
not
working
so
I've.
E
O
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
we
want
to
bring
that
feedback
back
to
like
the
city
as
well
as
the
state
and
so
like.
That's
really
important
information
and
like
we
should
not
be
holding
meetings
in
a
way.
That's
hard
like
hard
for
people
who
can't
seem
to
participate
in.
So
that's
like
that's
on
us
and
like
the
law.
Moving
forward
to
address.
A
A
You
can
actually
click
on
all
the
linked
items
and
those
are
pdfs
usually
are
those
screen-
readers,
nope,
nope,
nope,
okay,
so
this
this
is
where
we
have
the
log
jam
then-
and
I
think
chris
carthaizer
just
remember-
to
take
this
back
like
this-
is
where
donna
has
a
problem
like
she
can't
screen
read
like
the
screen.
Reader
doesn't
act.
She
can't
actually
read
the
resolutions
in
advance
because
donna
I'd
I'd
love
if
you
didn't
retire.
I
know
I'm
not
really
loving
online
meetings
too
and
they're
kind.
A
L
Sorry
I
want
to
interrupt,
I
think,
there's
a
difference
between.
Is
it
like
accessible
per
the
law,
the
our
pdfs
are
accessible.
I
think
it
like.
Maybe
donna's,
maybe
donna
can't.
Doesn't
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
the
right
word
is,
but
I
think
our
pdfs
are
accessible
per
the
law.
I
think
that's
important
to
know.
Okay,
it
may
be.
J
Without
checking
in
with
people,
it
seems
like
that
would
be
nice
with
the
city
like
there's
been
a
lot
of
effort.
That's
gone
into
this
and
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
there's
been
little
effort
to
find
out
how
it's
impacted,
accessibility
from
city
clerk's
office.
So
if
it's
a
matter
of
of
some
assistance
to
make
sure
that
there's
the
right
programs
available
or
whatever
it
might
be,
but
the
what
donna.
J
J
J
H
L
I
don't
think
we
have
to
do
anything
formally,
though,
because,
like
you
know,
as
as
long
as
we
aren't
like
as
long
as
this
body
doesn't
say,
like
hey
a
person's
not
showing
up
nobody's,
nobody
gets
removed
right.
So
I
I
sort
of
agree
with
like
like
if
donna,
if
this
isn't
working
for
you
and
you
want
to
take
some
time
off,
I
think
that's
fine.
F
A
To
that
point
I
just
wanna:
ask
donna
like
so
I
understand
it's
a
phone
thing,
so
maybe
this
isn't
it
but
like
I
would
be
comfortable
if
I
would
be
comfortable
almost
like
calling
you
before
a
meeting
and
reading
the
resolutions
and
talking
with
you
about
edits
or
changes
you'd
like
to
see,
but
I
understand
that
that's
even
more
phone
time
so,
but
I
do
want
to
offer
that
out
there.
If
that's.
E
A
M
M
J
If
you
see
something
in
one
of
the
subcommittees
like,
if
you
see
something
in
png,
that
is
of
interest
to
you,
but
you
just
don't
want
to
be
in
the
meeting.
I'm
always
happy
to
just
talk
one-on-one
on
the
phone
to
find
out
what
what
you're
interested
in
and
what
your
perspective
is.
If
that's
the
way
for
you
to
engage
without
having
to
be
part
of
these
wrong
meetings,
okay,.
H
E
D
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
add,
as
a
general
announcement
that
we
recently
published
a
new
bus
stop
design
guide.
So
it's
called
the
metro,
transit,
regular
route,
bus,
stop
design
guide
and
maybe
the
link
could
make
it
into
the
minutes
in
case
any
folks
are
interested
in
taking
a
look-
and
this
is
the
first
edition-
it's
I'm
hoping
it's
a
living
document
that
gets
updated.