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From YouTube: April 27, 2022 Capital Long-Range Improvement Committee
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B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
jeffrey
strand,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
capital.
Long
range
improvement
committee
today
is
wednesday
april
27
2022
and
it's
just
1202
pm,
beginning
the
click
meeting
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
rule
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
C
D
F
A
C
Matt
kazinka
here
richard
laurel.
G
C
Erica
mater
here,
dan
mcconnell
will
be
late,
jake
mccormick.
H
H
B
19
members,
president
and
we
have
30
attending
the
meeting,
so
we
have
a
quorum
of
the
potential
33
member
committee
present.
Thank
you
with
that.
We'll
proceed
to
our
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
lims.minneapolismn.gov.
B
So
we
will
reject
that.
Welcome
and
roll
call
adoption
of
the
agenda
acceptance
of
the
minutes.
We'll
then
have
our
question
and
answer
session
number
three
on
capital
budget
requests,
hearing
about
public
rounds
and
facilities
and
the
municipal
building
commission.
We
will
then
have
task
force
breakout
sessions
that
will
wind
up
this
meeting.
B
So
in
order
to
expedite
the
process
and
save
time,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
to
accept
the
april
20
2022
minutes
and
when
members
make
the
motion
and
the
seconding
motion,
please
state
your
name
to
help
the
clerk
keep
track
of
who
made
the
motion.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
meeting
minutes.
A
A
I
J
J
K
B
B
B
M
B
Very
good:
well,
let's
proceed
with
public
grounds
and
facilities.
If
there's
any,
we
have
the
capital
budget
requests
that
all
the
members
have
reviewed,
and
this
is
our
q
a.
But
if
you
have
any
any
introductory
remarks
or
short
high
level
overview
that
you'd
like
to
state
before
we
take
questions
from
the
click
members,
that'd
be
great.
M
Jeff,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
I
don't
really
have
a
formal
introduction,
I'm
just
really
interested
in
getting
into
the
topic
so
that
we
can
capitalize
on
the
time
together
and
that
I
might
be
of
best
service
to
you.
So
I'd
like
to
just
jump
in
if
that's
okay,.
B
That's
fabulous
click,
members
just
raise
hands
and
we'll
do
the
speaker
cue
as
they
show
up
in
the
stack.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
question
on
mpd06.
O
Hi
amity
chris
baucus
property
services
and
as
these
projects
are
very
conceptual
and
early
and
kind
of
almost
you
know
just
beginning
a
placeholder.
We
definitely
would
get
much
more
into
community
engagement,
both
as
property
services
and
with
mpd.
The
projects
are
just
at
such
an
early
stage.
We
have.
We
don't
have
a
definition
to
that
at
this
time.
So
I
didn't.
O
So
an
mpd
of
four
sorry
I
was
just
looking
and
pdo4
right
now
is-
is
contemplating
working
with
the
developer,
an
existing
facility
in
downtown
and
right
now,
it's
working
with
the
planning
commission
to
look
into
feasibility
and
approval
of
that
use.
So
after
that
proceeds,
that's
when
the
community
engagement
in
particular
on
mpd4
would
have
to
take
place
with
the
council
member,
and
I
think
that
just
think
it
was
tuesday
this
week
or
monday
this
week.
That
item
just
went
to
community
the
whole
planning
committee
of
the
whole.
B
Thanks:
let's
go
to
katrina
and
then
john.
P
P
I'm
curious
as
to
why
not,
since
everything
that
we
know
that
buildings
from
cradle
to
grave
produce
at
least
40
of
the
co2,
and
that
these
buildings
are
going
to
be
in
use
for
50
to
75
years,
that
why
aren't
all
going
for
zero
energy
zero
carbon,
which
would
be
close
to
better
than
lead,
v4
and
then
also
in
lead.
O
Yeah-
and
this
is
chris
baucus-
with
property
services
again
and
kind
of
taking
over
the
project,
just
in
the
last
few
months
from
the
previous
staff,
so
that
project
was
special
request
to
council
for
leed
gold
certified
and
the
previous
version
had
to
be
updated
to
version
four.
So
that's
why
we
kind
of
called
out
that
we'll
be
going
lead
version
version.
Four
on
that
project,
previous
city
standard
was
a
lead.
Silver
level
of
quality
is
what
we
build
our
facilities
to
in
working
with
the
sustainability
group.
O
We
are
working
to
roll
out
a
new
sustainability
standard
that
incorporates
elements
of
b
street
and
also
better
valuation
yeah.
I
see
and
kind
of
modernizing
that
to
bring
it
up
so
before
was
kind
of
a
move
forward
with
the
previous
and
we're
looking
to
kind
of
update
that
policy.
P
P
No
I'm
talking
about
all
the
projects
like
what
amy
brought
up
that
there's
a
project
that
looks
like
in
a
couple
of
years,
but
there
hasn't
been
any
community
engagement
so,
but
that
project
is
still
going
to
be
leed
certified
in
some
realm,
which
hopefully,
the
sustainability
department
will
prioritize
lead
v4,
but
it
should
be
engagement
at
the
very
beginning
with
all
shareholders,
not
just.
B
Go
to
john
next.
I
I
So
just
that
point
and
as
we
get
that
fixed
up
be
great
now
I
just
want
to
follow
on
what
amity
said
about
both
mpdo4
mpe
and
mk06,
and
I
recognize
that
you
know
it's
challenging
to
get
all
this
timed
right
right,
but
you're
asking
for
a
lot
of
money
and
you're
asking
for
it
relatively
soon
in
our
six
year
process,
you're
in
the
front
half
of
our
process.
I
In
fact,
npdo4
you've
already
got
six
million
dollars
authorized
and
yet
that
one's
a
little
bit
further
along
in
06,
you
at
least
have
a
spot
identified,
but
nothing
confirmed
yet
you
don't
have
a
spot
identified
on
o6
it.
Just
these
feel,
like
they're
you're,
asking
it's
big
bucks
and
and
you're
sort
of
asking
us
to
approve
these
without
a
lot
of
information
which
doesn't
feel
right.
O
Yeah
they're
in
particular,
I
think
mpd04
needs
to
be
developed
further
and
more
information
to
come
on.
That
john,
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
new
project
to
me
too.
B
Q
Hi,
thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
regards
to
fire
stations.
If
I
recall
correctly,
there
was
we've
had
a
project
in
the
past.
It's
probably
fire
station,
one
that
was
being
developed,
like
so
co-developed
with
a
housing
project,
and
so
it's
great
and
awesome
really
excited
to
see
that,
and
I
think
especially
given
our
landlocked
nature
of
our
city,
you
know
the
more
densely
than
we
like
kind
of
multi-purpose.
Q
We
can
make
our
land
the
better
and
seeing
that
we
have
two
fire
stations
on
the
docket.
How
are
you
making
decisions
around
what
one
like
what
lessons
have
been
learned
with
that
development
process
and
downtown
and
two
you
know?
How
are
you
approaching?
You
know
potential
for
so
collaboration
with
you
know
housing
or
other
types
of
development,
so
we
can
maximize
our
land.
O
Chris
chris
baucus
again
katie,
and
thank
you
for
that
question.
Currently
it
was
fire
12,
it's
new
fire
station
number
one
downtown
off
of
washington
and
that
building
is
nearing
completion
will
be
completed
sometime
this
summer
and
I
think
we've
learned
some
things
definitely
from
it's
still
in
process.
So
it's
hard
to
look
back
at
it
completely,
but
we
partnered
with
cped
and
sherman
and
ka
is
the
contractor,
so
there's
definitely
in
contracting
and
working
together.
O
I
know
we're
currently
working
and
you
know
looking
ahead
at
documents,
so
that
is
co-located
with,
I
think
there's
some
market
rate
and
and
fixed
rate
housing
there,
and
it's
definitely
of
our
interest
fire
state,
a
fire
14
for
new
fire
station
19
needs
further
definition,
but
that's
actually
being
looking
at
a
partnership
over
on
the
u
campus
area.
So
it
would
be
another
ideal,
one
where
we
would
take
a
model
similar
to
that
and
it
really
fits
our
need
to
be
in
that
area.
O
But
yet
allow
you
know
most
of
that
block
was
parking
lot
around
the
fire
station.
So
I
think
it's
really
supportive
and
if
we
look
at
fire
station
number
19
over
near
campus,
it's
kind
of
all
low
buildings
on
that
block
currently,
and
I
think
that
would
fit
the
the
need,
but
yet
protecting
you
know
the
city
still
has
life
safety,
functionality
and
travel
routes,
that
the
fire
department
needs
access
to
and
and
to
respond
so
really
prioritizing
those
needs.
O
Q
Thanks
yeah,
I'm
really
encouraged
to
hear
that,
especially
on
the
ucampus,
and
would
just
encourage
that
type
of
thinking
for
the
the
fire
station.
That's
planned
in
the
kind
of
northeast
marcy
holmes
area
as
well,
just
again
we're
landlocked
city,
and
I
just
we
can't
can
be
continuing
to
build.
You
know
one-story
buildings
we
just
gotta,
make
use
of
our
land
as
much
as
possible,
especially
in
the
time
of
you,
know,
housing
shortage,
and
so
I
love
you
know.
Q
Obviously,
you've
got
to
put
for
first,
the
the
needs
of
you
know
the
life
safety
needs
of
the
the
fire
station
functionality,
but
yeah
any
co-benefits
that
we
can
get
out
of
this
I'd
love
to
see
more
thanks.
G
O
G
So
they're
still
being
negotiated,
then
yeah,
okay
and
the
other
question
on
the
fire
department.
On
on
on
the
third
precinct.
You
also
left
ward
11
off
on
that
in
that
precinct,
where
you
were,
you
think
about
renovating
looking
at
new
space
and
have
you
had
the
community
involved
within
that
discussion?
G
O
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
third
precinct
and
really
I
know
there
are
further
conversations
and
that's
kind
of
initial
that
they're
still
working
through
and
and
would
involve
future
community
engagement.
I
think
just
the
options
are
still
too
many
on
the
plate
to
where
and
and
what
and
how,
but
that
definitely
would
be
a
part
in
the
future.
Willy.
G
Okay-
and
I
really
want
to
reiterate
what
kitty
and
amity
was
talking
about,
having
a
community
conversation
about
hiawatha,
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
that
location,
traffic
and
so
forth.
Have
you
again,
I
really
think
it's
important
to
engage
in
community
regarding
that
site
on
hiawatha,
because
the
community,
as
I
understand
they,
were
concerned
about
the
traffic,
so
it's
important
to
have
them
engaged
in
that
conversation
about
that
space.
G
O
Agreed-
and
I
know
there
were
traffic
surveys
and
the
aw
that
was
done
last
year
and
I
and
and
community
engagement
will
continue.
Yep.
G
And
one
more
question
regarding
the
first
precinct:
there
was
conversation
about
from
last
time.
We
were
talking
about
the
first
precinct
I
forget
which,
where
the
location,
but
you
were
talking
about
housing
on
top
of
the
precinct
in
the
fire
department
having
that
together,
has
that
gone
away
or
that's
not
in
the
conversation
anymore.
O
B
Great
matt
katrina
and
neil.
K
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you
for
being
here,
so
I
I
I
I
just
have
a
question
around
the
the
decision
making
process
around
renovation
versus
relocation
when
it
comes
to
the
three
police
precinct
projects.
You
know
looking
at
these
cbrs,
I
feel
like
the
the
first
police
precinct
project.
Mpd04
makes
a
relatively
good
justification
for
how
the
the
existing
building
can't
be
sort
of
renovated
to
the
needs
that
are
expressed
in
this,
but
I'm
interested
the
fourth
police.
K
Fourth
police
precinct
project
in
video
five
sort
of
takes
relocation
as
a
given,
and
I
don't
see
any
assessment
of
renovation
of
the
existing
property
as
an
option
in
here
and
I'm
curious
about
why
that
is.
Whereas
the
third
pre
police
precinct
project,
video
six
does
say
it
could
be
either
renovation
or
relocation.
K
And
so
I
guess
you
know
what
will
be
the
process,
what
what
was
the
process
to
determine
that
the
fourth
police
precinct
can't
be
renovated
and
that
relocation
is
necessary
to
achieve
the
goals
that
are
stated
and
then
two?
What
will
be
the
process
for
the
third
precinct
to
determine
relocation
versus
renovation
like
so?
It's
not
even
expressed
many
times
mean
engagement
is
critical
in
this,
and
you've
said
that
that
will
happen.
K
I'm
curious
about
kind
of
what
that
what
that
looks
like
what
is
the
general
process
that
the
the
department
uses
to
to
go
about
that
and
how?
How
different
things
are?
Gonna
be
weighed
about
renovation
versus
relocation.
O
Yeah
thanks
matt
chris
again,
and
I
think
it's
it
would
be
intended
that
both
mpdo
5
and
mp306,
so
that's
fourth
and
third
precincts,
could
both
potentially
be
relocated
or
renovated
in
the
existing
location,
and
that,
like
you
said
we
would
at
first
precinct.
We
would
make
sure
that
we
know
the
needs
and
can
the
footprint
or
the
existing
site
meet
those
needs,
and
if
so,
then,
a
renovation
is
possible
and
if
not
it's
more
of
a
relocation.
O
P
So
and
if
you
can't
meet
the
needs,
then
maybe
the
needs,
I
I
think
it
can
meet
the
needs
if
smaller,
maybe
satellite
places
were
built
up
among
around
north
minneapolis,
rather
than
having
one
big
huge
kind
of
to
me,
it's
almost
like
a
military-based
kind
of
situation
from
a
co2
reduction
perspective.
Renovating
a
building,
especially
the
size
of
the
fourth
precinct,
is
much
more
preferable
because
the
you
know
the
building
already
has
a
co2
footprint
and
renovation
would
be
a
much
better
option.
P
So
what
would
you
do
with
a
34
year
old
building
that
takes
up
quite
a
bit
of
space?
That's
really
not
worth
destroying.
P
So
I
would
really
suggest
that-
and
I
don't
remember
hearing
anything
about
community
involvement
with
what's
going
on
in
the
fourth
precinct
either.
So
if
there
has
been
some
outreach,
I
haven't
seen
it.
P
P
O
Katrina,
so
we
have
not
engaged
a
formal
designer
for
that
and
at
the
time
where
we
would
start
involving
a
designer,
we
would
better
identify
options,
especially
at
at
fourth
precinct,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
property.
So
I
completely
agree
with
you:
if
it
would
meet
the
needs,
our
preference
would
be
continued
use
of
that
facility
and
a
renovation
to
meet
updated
needs.
B
Yes,
I
had,
I
had
neil,
actually
the
I
see
the
q
number,
so
I
see
exactly
who's
in
queue
and
the
stack.
So
it's
katrina's
done
then
it's
neil.
L
So
this
this
is
a
reference
that
john
from
a
few
minutes
ago,
we
just
updated
just
fyi.
We
did
update
the
table
that
was
in,
I
think,
was
npd05
and
that's
now
linking
to
the
correct
financial
table,
so
that
should
be
updated
now.
Thank
you.
D
D
The
building
has
water
leaking
through
the
roof
they're,
not
in
a
ideal
spot.
For
many
many
different
reasons.
The
other
issue
too,
that
I
have
is
that
the
community
is
expressing
just
the
burned-out
building.
It
just
keeps
trauma
going
and
going,
and
so
I
would
just
like,
like
I
said,
I
noticed
that
it's
not
prior
a
priority
one.
O
Yeah,
we
definitely
agree
to
the
your
comment
thor
about
having
a
home
versus
not
having
a
home
in
the
current
city
of
lakes.
Building,
although
it's
functioning,
it's
not
doesn't
serve
the
neighborhood,
it
doesn't
serve
the
police
very
well
yeah,
so
we
definitely
agree
with
it
needs
to
be
prioritized
higher.
I
Thank
you.
So
I've
got
questions
on
two
separate
psd
projects,
so
these
are
two
unrelated
things.
So
I'll
start
with
one,
let
you
answer
and
then
I'll
ask
the
second.
This
is
on
psd
16.
The
farmers
market
improvements,
our
concern
in
the
past
with
this
one
has
been
the
lack
of
clarity
around
development
that
may
or
may
not
occur
surrounding
the
farmers
market
and
how
that
may
impact
that
that
that
site.
I
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
this
lrt
station
there
and
a
bunch
of
other
potential
developments,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
give
us
an
update
on
that.
That's
question.
One.
O
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
john
and
dating
back
to
years.
I
know
I
don't
have
any
new
information.
As
we
know,
the
southwest
lrt
station
is
being
constructed.
Currently
I
know
I
talked
to
a
former
presenter
for
property
services,
paul
miller
somewhat
regularly,
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
so
kind
of
the
most.
I
know
john,
unfortunately,
is
no
new
news
on
my
part.
I
When
the
new
office
building
was
presented
to
us,
one
of
the
the
key
points
of
that
was
there
was
going
to
be
a
lot
of
savings
by
being
able
to
consolidate
down
a
lot
of
rental
that
the
city
had
around
downtown
for
other
offices,
and
so
it
looks
like
this
project
is
specifically
as
a
result
of
that
that
consolidation
occurring
and
and
renovation
needing
to
occur
in
city
hall,
to
accommodate
that
this
is
a
lot
of
money.
It's
17
million
bucks.
I
I
don't
recall
that
being
that
kind
of
a
number
being
included
when
this
was
first
presented
to
us.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
around
that
can
remember
whether
there
was
an
anticipation
that
they
would
have
to
spend
that
much
money
renovating
city
hall,
to
make
all
this
happen
or
if
that's
incrementally
more
dollars
than
was
originally
planned.
O
John,
unfortunately,
I
don't
have
the
history
with
that
either,
but
I
do
know
so.
Essentially,
we've
moved
on
to
this
is
the
restack
of
city
hall
and
reconfiguration
of
the
uses
that
were
not
re
located
in
the
new
public
service
building
and
the
configuration
and
the
appropriate
build
out
of
space
in
city
hall
for
the
city
functions.
I
If
I
could
get
some
follow-up
on
that
one,
that
would
be
great.
That
might
actually
be
a
follow-up
question
for
the
finance
department.
I'm
not
sure
and
we'd
go
back
to
what
the
assumptions
were
at
the
time
that
the
new
building
was
constructed,
but
it'd
be
good
for
context
to
know
whether
this
is
what
was
anticipated
or
if
this
is
significantly
more
thanks.
B
R
Okay,
so
just
to
clarify,
I
was
asking
about
psd22
animal
care.
Is
this
appropriate
time
for
that.
R
Sure,
riff
yep,
okay,
so
the
first
comment
is:
would
it
be
possible
to
change
the
title
of
this
to
include
the
word?
Animal
regulatory
services
sounds
like
the
least
sexy
thing
that
anybody's
going
to
want
to
give
money
to.
R
Secondly,
the
facility
I've
been
seeing
in
the
news
has
been
getting
a
lot
of
attention
in
the
last
year,
so
due
to
extensive
overcrowding
and
apparently
a
glut
of
post-pandemic
animals
getting
returned,
has
there
been
any
updated
input
into
this
project
and
the
sort
of
the
importance
of
it
or
shall
we
say,
the
urgency
of
it.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question
rich
chris
bacchus
again
and
having
we
could
sure,
consider
a
name
change.
I
think
that
was
just
started
last
year
and
speaking
to
the
scope
so
having
just
gotten
the
small
fifty
thousand
amount
from
last
year,
we
plan
to
kind
of
kick
off
a
better
conversation
with
the
animal
care
and
control
operation
on
to
their
needs,
and
I
think
that
gets
right
into
what
you're
talking
about
rich.
O
So
we
intend
to
kind
of
start
the
process
of
better
identifying
their
needs,
hopefully
in
the
next
couple
of
months
here.
So
I
think
next
year,
we'll
have
a
much
better
view
of
what
this
project
is
rich.
R
Okay,
so
things
aren't
so
desperate
that
we
need
really
action
this
year.
I
noticed
that
the
project
was
not
funded
last
year.
It
didn't
it
didn't
reach
the
level
of
didn't
reach
our
cutoff
point
for
projects.
O
Yeah,
we'll
continue
to
figure
out
how
to
work
through
that
project
with
the
animal
care
and
control
operation.
S
S
It
nowhere
near
is
back
to
what
was
in
front
of
city
hall
beforehand.
In
fact,
there's
only
five
bicycle
stands
there
compared
to
well
over
20
before
the
pandemic.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
we're
trying
to
reopen
downtown.
We
have
a
public
hearing
on
may
11th
in
city
hall,
there's
going
to
be
inadequate
bike
parking
there,
and
this
is
a
between
you,
the
nbc
and
the
public
services
building.
Something
needs
to
happen
quickly
to
get
the
bike
facilities
back
up
to
shape
thanks.
N
N
I
think
a
lot
of
times
it
gets
pushed
off
as
not
necessary
or
not
a
priority,
because
it's
just
talking
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhoods,
but
this
is
a
way
like
pushing
it
off
like
that
demonstrates
kind
of
a
disregard
of
the
community,
whether
that's
intentional
or
not,
and
right
now
anything
around
policing
like
any
opportunity.
The
city
has
to
better
or
even
just
a
dress
community.
N
N
O
Thank
you
emily
chris
baucus
again,
and
those
projects
are
just
at
such
an
early
level
and
as
they
develop
further.
We'll
definitely
have
a
commitment
to
that.
I
O
B
Okay,
I'll
go
back
to
the
I'm
trying
to
look
in
pdl5,
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
the
comments
about
community
engagement
and
public
engagement.
I
hope
that
the
group
responsible
for
determining
whether
to
stay
and
and
renovate
or
to
relocate
that
you
have
a
robust
engagement
process.
That's
consistent
with
the
city
adopted,
iap2
principles
of
community
engagement
that
we
have
we
had
adopted
years
ago
and
seemed
like
we've,
largely
forgotten,
and
I
mean
to
have.
The
engagement
include
the
entire
territory
of
the
fourth
precinct.
B
F
Right,
can
you
hear
me
okay,
yeah,
sorry
about
this.
My
raised
hand
function
is
not
working
teams.
It
was
the
same
way
last
week.
So
so
I
I
have
two
quick
comments.
One
is
I
I
want
to
agree
with
katrina
and
also
jeff
regarding
the
the
consideration
of
of
re-architecting
how
public
safety
works
so
that
we
become
more
community-based
and
one
way
to
do
that
is
to
locate
a
substation
north
of
of
lowry
and
perhaps
invest
less
than
less
than
moving.
The
fourth
precinct.
F
There's
enough
function
functional
space
there
to
to
serve
as
a
headquarters
for
the
precinct,
and
if
we
can
decentralize,
I
I
believe
that
services
will
be
easier
to
deliver.
I'm
one
of
those
homes
that
has
bullet
holes
in
it
and
here's
bullets
every
night,
and
you
know
it's
getting
a
little
old
and
it's
it's
impossible
to
find
police
when
we
we
need
them
so
the
closer
they
can
be
located
to
us.
The
better.
F
That's
number
one
number
two
is
psd,
26,
the
the
the
security
systems,
so
one
of
the
challenges
I've
I've
seen
in
the
past
is
that
you
put
up
more
cameras
and
there's
no
one
watching
at
the
other
end
are
are
what
is
the
the
connection
of
this
technology
to
people
actually
using
the
technology,
for
example,
in
cameras?
Are
those
cameras
similar
to
the
ones
that
are
on
street
corners
or
those
at
street
corners,
the
ones
that
mpd
is
in
the
mpd
budget?.
O
So
here
eric,
I
look
at
and
sorry
I'm
going
to
back
up
for
a
sec
or
go
to
your
last
question.
I
think
what
you're
asking
so
psd
26
is
related
to
lands
and
buildings
facilities
and
the
I
think
their
safe
zone.
Cameras
are
in
the
right
of
way.
Those
cameras
are
on
light,
poles
and
so
different
networks.
I
I
think
they
can
be
commuted.
You
know
shared
if
you
will
in
the
new
building.
We
have
24
7
security
and
all
of
our
building
cameras
that
are
that
are
part
of
this.
O
F
O
Yeah,
so
I
think
they
can
share
some
video
eric,
but
but
they
are
different.
You
know
one
is
think
of
the
stuff
in
the
right
of
way
as
a
separate
system
versus
the
stuff
on
the
city-owned
property,
and
I
think
to
your
conversation
as
as
the
your
what
I
think
your
first
question
was,
as
the
fourth
precinct
project
would
move
forward.
O
I
think
they're
even
operationally
and
with
the
mpd
staff
there
would
need
to
be
a
whole
other
conversation
about,
does
smaller
outposts
better
serve
or,
yes,
I
think,
there's
a
complete
bandwidth
of
of
discussion
that
needs
to
revolve
our
own
operation
and
facility
needs
in
the
future.
Correct.
O
B
B
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
I
was
saying
I
hadn't
seen
any
other
hands
raised,
but
I
now
see
katrina.
So
let's
take
one
final
question
then
I
think
we'll
thank
property
services
for
presenting
answers
on
our
questions
and
then
I
see
that
aaron
delaney
is
back
in
the
meeting,
so
we
could
move
to
our
municipal
building
commission
segment
after
that
katrina.
O
B
Okay,
thank
you
property
services
and,
if
we're
ready,
since
it's
12,
50
p.m,
move
to
four
part:
two
municipal
building,
commission
and
aaron
delaney
back
in
your
office.
T
Well,
gee,
never
not
take
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
community
members
right.
I
I
hope
I've
met
most
of
you,
aaron
delaney,
I'm
the
director
of
the
municipal
building
commission.
T
T
I'm
presenting
six
projects
for
your
review
and
question.
The
good
news
is,
if
you've
you've
seen
all
of
these
projects
already
we're
not
introducing
any
new
projects
for
this
request
and
in
fact,
project
number:
six,
I'm
not
asking
for
money
until
2024.
T
S
Good
good
afternoon,
miss
delaney-
I
don't
know
if
you
were
listening
to
the
last
presentation,
but
I
raised
a
concern
regarding
the
existing
bike
parking,
that's
in
front
of
city
hall
and
the
removal
of
what
was
there
before
the
reconstruction
last
summer.
There
were
some
words
that
I
heard
from
fellow
members
that
that
parking
would
be
replaced,
and
it's
not,
of
course,
there's
five
posts
of
what
there
used
to
be
over
20
along
that
area.
S
Downtown
is
opening
up
we're
trying
to
get
people
to
get
there
other
than
buy
a
vehicle.
So
I
would
hope
that
you
can
do
what
you
can
do
between
hennepin
county
and
the
public
services
building
and
public
works.
To
advocate
to
get
those
racks
up
asap.
T
Yes,
chair
strand
member
miller,
yes,
absolutely
we
did
relocate
some
racks
because
of
the
reconstruction
along
fourth
street.
There
is
a
new
rack
on
the
corner
of
third
avenue
and
fourth
street.
I
think
you've
seen
that
and.
I
T
S
It's
if
you
would
have
been
out
there
last
week
as
I
was
there,
were
more
scooters
parked
in
blocking
places
for
individual
cyclists
to
park
than
what
was
that.
S
It's
just
not
outstanding
to
put
another
little
five
post
rank
sitting
on.
Fourth
and
fourth,
you
really
need
to
look
at
replacing
the
stuff
that
was
along
city
hall,
where
it
was,
and
that
was
it
was
our
understanding
in
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
that
that
was
going
to
be
done
and
it
hasn't
and
it's
going
to
present
a
big
problem.
T
Okay,
okay,
oh
you
know
thank
you.
If,
if
there
is
that
need
that
you've
identified,
then
we
will
support
that
we
absolutely
will
and
add
additional
bike
racks.
Absolutely
now,
as
a
communication
item,
we
also
have
indoor
parking
in
the
basement
of
city
hall
as
well.
That's
available.
T
S
My
understanding
is
that
that
is
for
city
staff
and
that's.
T
S
For
them,
but
the
public
doesn't
know
about
that.
Nor
am
I
I
think
that
you
probably
have
to
have
some
approvals
to
get
through
there,
but
that
doesn't
work
for
people
that
are
coming
down
to
city
hall
or
to
the
public
services
building,
which
really
did
an
architectural
flub
in
putting
the
majority
of
the
parking
on
fourth
and
fifth
rather
than
in
front
of
the
building.
S
Those
places
are
insecure
compared
to
the
public
front
of
the
building
and
again
you're
gonna
be
seeing
lyft
and
bird
and
everybody
else
basically
locking
down
a
number
of
scooters
at
each
of
these
locations
that
limit
further
limit
parking
abilities.
So
I
just
urge
you
to
get
with
colleagues
and
to
see
what
you
can
do
asap
to
get
more
parking
out
there
besides
another
corner
post
down
on
the
other
end
of
fourth
and
fourth,
thank.
T
S
Would
I
go
to
the
front
desk
and
say
where's
the
parking
or
how
it
I
mean.
Absolutely
you
know
yeah.
Maybe.
B
Maybe
a
sign
would
be
appropriate,
let's
go
to
katie
next
and
then
neil
neil
may
have
a
point
of
information.
Okay,.
Q
T
Chair
strandon,
ms
jones,
I
can
tell
you
specifically
exterior
improvements
project
number,
six,
that
we
are
not
requesting
money
for
for
next
year.
It's
really
a
capacity
issue.
T
There
is
a
lot
of
construction
on
going
in
the
facility
right
now,
and
so
it's
better
for
us
to
hold
on
that
for
the
exterior
improvement
project
until
2024
when
things
stabilize
a
little
bit
in
the
building.
Q
Okay,
I
guess
I
was
just
asking
like
from
last
year,
because
council
didn't
fund
a
couple
of
those
projects
did,
it
is,
were
they
just
on
hold
until
for.
T
Q
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
one
other
question
that
was
prompted
because
of
the
mechanical
systems
upgrade
so
the
you
know
the
city
has
climate
action
goals.
Has
you
know
renewable
electricity
goals?
How
is
is
nbc?
Looking
at
you
know,
electrification
and
yeah
decarbonization,
so
beyond,
just
basic
energy
efficiency.
Are
you
in
greater
conversations
with
you
know
the
city's
energy
manager
about
how
that's
gonna
like
how
we're
gonna
get
down
to
zero
for
the
building.
T
Sure,
yes,
absolutely,
ms
jones,
absolutely
we
are.
We
can
put
together
a
data
sheet
of
all
of
the
different
goals
that
we
have
with
the
new
projects
we
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
relative
to
energy
consumption
and
all
the
different
types
of
energy.
T
In
addition,
not
only
do
we
consult
with
the
city's
energy
management
experts,
we
also
consult
with
the
county's
energy
conservation
staff
and
experts
as
well.
So,
yes,
it
is
a
priority.
Awesome.
I'd
love
to
see
that.
Q
T
J
Yeah,
I
cannot
wait
for
it
to
get
in
in
person,
because
this
microsoft
teams
has
been
a
nightmare
today.
So
anyways,
I
have
a
question
in
general
about
skyways,
it's
something
that
seems
to
not
come
up
in
the
click,
but
these
are
basically
million
dollar
buildings
at
the
second
level,
and
I
my
understanding
is
that
somehow
hennepin
county
and
this
and
the
municipal
building
commission
when
they
built
the
new
building,
they
split
the
cost
of
the
new
skyway
and
I'm
just
curious
to
know
how
that
works
and
just
in
general.
J
I
guess
this
is
an
aside
for
the
maybe
the
rest
of
the
click
that
many
of
the
other
skyways
in
the
system
are
managed
through
that
parking
system.
So
which
is
news
to
me,
so
it
just
seems
like
we
have
these.
You
know
multi-million
dollar
buildings
I
don't
know,
are
they
million
two
million
to
construct
that
don't
get
a
project
in
the
click
but
they're
they're?
There.
T
Chair
strand,
member
angle,
that's
a
great
question.
Unfortunately,
that's
not
the
nbc's
topic,
our
building,
the
city
hall.
Courthouse
does
not
have
a
skyway
connection,
so
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
address
those
questions
specifically.
This.
J
J
So
I
do
have
a
question
for
you.
Okay,
when
I
was
on
the
pedestrian
committee
a
pedestrian
advisory.
Many
years
ago,
we
brought
up
the
problem
that
fourth
avenue
is
basically
a
parking
lot
for
the
police
department
and
it's
not
actually
possible
for
somebody
to
really
walk
down.
That
sidewalk
is
that,
has
that
ever
been
brought
up
as
a
something
that
the
nbc
would
consider?
T
That's
really
a
great
great
question
that
we
have
continuously
raised
and
in
partnership
with
the
city
when
they
redo
fourth
avenue.
We
definitely
want
to
be
at
the
table
to
increase
the
width
of
that
sidewalk.
Absolutely.
T
We,
as
an
agency
have
continuously
been
in
dialogue
with
the
sheriff's
office
as
well,
because
that
sheriff's
garage
is
located
right
along
4th
avenue,
which
promotes
or
causes
a
lot
of
sheriff's
office
parking
along
fourth
avenue,
absolutely
right
that
could
be
dedicated
to
community
parking
and
bikes
and
stuff.
So
so,
unfortunately,.
J
I
can't
walk
because
I'm
a
blind
person
and
oftentimes
I
would
want
to
walk
from
because
the
nbc
would
lock
the
door
on
the
light
rail
side,
which
is
how
I
got
there
taking
the
light
rail,
they
would
lock
the
door
at
5
pm
and
I'd
have
to
walk
to
the
other
side
and
it's
it's
was
on.
I
was
unable
to
walk
on
the
fourth
avenue
side.
I
had
to
go
around
to
the
third
avenue
side,
which
also
isn't
a
great
pedestrian
experience,
sure
sure
sure.
T
Agree
absolutely
agree.
A
couple
options
I
would
suggest
is
you
know
you
can
call
the
mbc
security
team.
They
are
available
to
assist
navigating
the
exterior
of
the
building
to
safely
get
in.
On
the
fourth
street
side,
the
the
building
does
close
at
6
p.m,
so,
prior
to
6
p.m,
the
5th
street
entrance
is
available
and
then
again
after
6
pm,
all
of
our
guests
are
required
to
enter
on
4th
street.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
a
better
answer
for
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
scott
katie
and
then
dan.
S
Hi,
yes,
I
just
had
my
first
visit
to
city
hall
after
two
years
of
of
you
know
lockdown.
I
noticed
that
on
fifth
street
there,
the
new
security
doors
that
are
installed
going
to
the
first
first
floor
there.
What
is
the
and
I
noticed,
there's
a
card
reader
on
it.
The
doors
were
open.
Is
there
a
policy
that
you've
established
yet
and
when
those
are
closed
or
locked
down
to
the
public
and
how's.
T
That
yeah
sir
there
is
the
policy
is
that
those
doors
will
be
open
now
some
of
them
are
closed
because
construction,
that's
ongoing
in
the
building,
for
example,
the
first
floor
southwest
corner
of
the
building.
T
Those
doors
are
closed
because
of
ongoing
construction.
Okay,
members
of
click.
Are
you
all
familiar
with
these
interior
doors
that
we
are
referring
to
they're
they?
If
you
will
encapsulate
the
sides
of
each
each
side
of
the
building
on
each
floor,
they're
required
as
per
fire
code
and
during
the
pandemic
we
did
close
those
doors
because,
frankly,
there
were
very
few
people
in
the
building
and
it
became
a
security
issue.
So
they're
they're
programmed
into
our
fire
system
our
sprinkler
system.
B
All
right,
I
don't
see
anyone
else
in
queue,
so
I
will
go
and
then
katie,
maybe
is
new
again.
Okay.
This
is
kind
of
off
this,
isn't
a
specific,
but
a
couple
of
general
questions.
Number
one
is
as
a
person
who,
this
past
year
being
a
political
season
and
we're
all
engaged
residents
who
serve
on
click.
B
We
often
wear
many
different
hats,
and
so
I'm
wondering
about
the
the
use
of
public
space
as
a
taxpayer.
I
like
to
see
public
facilities
like
hennepin
county
libraries
that
are
made
available
for
community
organizations
after
hours
weekends.
I
know
that
mbc
gets
a
fair
amount
of
revenue.
I
believe
from
your
receptions
and
renting
space
right
and
I'd
love
to
see
the
new
municipal
building
be
made
available
to
the
public
for
community
engagement
meetings
and
things
like
our
precinct
caucuses
when
those
are
held
in
person.
B
B
B
My
you
know,
empathy
for
this.
These
circumstances
that
arise
in
our
human
lives.
So
I
just
wondered
what
what
does
your
agency
do
in
terms
of
employees
or
residents
with
disabilities,
who
should
need
a
special
accommodation
for
attending
public
events?
Like
city
council
and
other
events
who
who
need
reasonable
and
special
accommodations.
T
Okay,
thank
you,
chair
strand,
I'll
start
with
your
first
question
about
the
public
use
of
our
conference
rooms.
The
short
answer
is
we
don't
have
a
policy
in
place
right
now
for
how
best
to
do
that-
and
I
know
you
referred
to
our
events
program.
Unfortunately,
that
has
been
on
a
hiatus
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
so
that
whole
piece
just
hasn't
been
occurring.
T
T
So,
of
course
we
want
to
promote
those
conferencing
rooms
for
public,
so
that
is
something
on
our
to-do
list.
Is
how
best
to
publicize
that
and
then
develop
policies
around
it
again.
The
building
closes
at
six,
so
we
have
to
just
be
cognizant
of
how
that
would
all
work
with
our
security
team.
T
T
T
You
know
this
building
is
130
years
old,
no
excuse
it's
just
a
different
building
that
we
have
to
work
with.
You
know
you
come
in
on
fourth
street.
You
come
in
on
the
ground
floor
on
fifth
street
you're.
Coming
on
the
first
floor.
It's
just
the
design.
I
think
we
can
always
do
better
at
promoting
the
service.
T
We
do
have
mbc
security
staff
available
for
anyone
that
needs
assistance
and
or
directions
to
access
the
building
and-
and
perhaps
we
could
do
a
better
job,
communicating
that
even
on
our
website,
you
know,
call
the
security
desk
and
they
can
meet
you
and
escort
you
into
the
building.
T
So
I
hope
I
I've.
I
hope
I've
addressed
them.
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
thank
you.
You
know
you
raise
a
good
comment
about
public
use
of
the
building.
I
mean
we
want
the
public
in
our
building.
We
absolutely
do
the
nbc
board
very
clearly
wants
public
and
community
in
our
building
and
and
we
need
to
make
that
happen.
B
Thank
you,
katie.
Q
Yeah,
I
know
this
is
probably
not
so
much
not
like
preview,
but
because
we're
talking
about
nbc
operations,
I'm
just
curious,
the
you
said
the
opening
hours.
You
know
the
building
closes
at
six.
How
does
that
change
when
there
are?
You
know
late
council
meetings
or
things
where
the
public
is
invited
to
engage.
T
Sure,
no,
ms
hill,
that's
a
great
that's
a
great
question.
You
know.
Unfortunately,
we've
just
come
off
of
two
years
of
remote
meetings,
so
we
haven't
had
that
prior
to
that
when
there
was
late
council
meetings.
Of
course,
the
public
is
welcome
to
stay
until
the
end
of
the
meeting
until
the
end
of
their
business
absolutely
and
again,
pre
coven.
When
we
did
have.
For
example,
I
think
the
bike
committee
city
of
minneapolis
bike
committee
met
after
hours
in
our
building
and
that's
absolutely
allowed.
T
B
B
L
L
Okay,
so
just
an
update
on
our
calendar
here,
so
the
joint
city
planning,
commission
click
meeting
was
originally
scheduled
for
4
30
pm
the
clerk's
office
has
rescheduled
this
meeting
and
it'll
be
at
5
30
pm
on
may
12th
in
room
100
of
the
public
service.
Building,
I've
updated
your
calendar
on
the
calendar
out
in
the
sharepoint
site
and
then
justin
was
going
to
start
sending
out
new
invitations.
So
actually
justin
you
want
to
go
to
the.
If
you
can
click
that
click
calendar.
L
I
can
briefly
talk
about
coming
back
to
in-person
meetings
yeah,
so
we
have
another
meeting
this
coming
friday
april
29th,
and
that
will
be
our
last
virtual
session.
After
that,
all
our
meetings
will
be
in
in
person.
So
wednesday
may
4th
you'll
see
that
the
human
development
task
force
is
meeting
in
the
public
service
building
in
room
600
c
and
the
transportation
task
force
is
meeting
in
the
10th
floor,
training
room
so
for
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
the
calendar.
L
You'll
just
check
just
check
this
calendar
for
where
we're
going
to
meet
most
of
it
is
going
to
be
in
that
public
service
building
room.
100,
which
is
on
the
bottom
floor
of
the
new
public
service
building
but
yeah
I
would.
I
would
check
this
calendar
routinely
before
you
come
to
meetings
I'll
continue
to
send
reminders
out
on
each
monday.
Just
to
let
you
know
where
we're
going
to
be,
but
keep
in
mind.
So
next
week
we
will
be
returning
to
in
person.
A
And
neil
in
case
you
haven't
mentioned
it,
everyone
will
receive
updated
calendar
invites
so
the
current
calendar
invites
are
set
up
for
our
remote
participation
through
teams.
Those
will
all
be
canceled
likely
right
after
this
meeting
and
you'll
receive
update,
invites
the
location
will
be
included
in
the
invite
itself
and
then
also
in
the
body
and
the
text
of
that
invite
too,
I
saw.
B
L
F
Okay,
I
have
a
quick
question:
are
there
enough
outlets
in
room
100
for
us
to
plug
our
laptops
in.
L
L
I'm
adjusting
your
mind
going
back
to
that
personal
slide.
B
Where
will
you
have
so
click
members
can
get
the
light
rail?
They
can
get
bus,
they
can
bike,
they
can
if
they
do
travel
by
auto
they
can
park
where.
L
Getting
parking
vouchers
and
we're
working
on
getting
some
transit
tokens
as
well
so
but
the
parking
will
be
at
the
hoff
ramp,
which
is
about
two
blocks
away,
and
I
hope
my
next
meeting
I'll
have
like
a
little
flyer
set
up
for
you
guys.
So
you
can
I'll
send
that
out
to
you
with
more
information
on
where
and
how
we're
gonna
do.
The
parking
and
transit
reimbursement.
N
Yeah.
Thank
you
question
about
the
community
connections
conference.
I
rsvp'd
to
work
that
early
in
the
morning
are
masks
fully
required.
L
I
don't
know
the
answer
that
I
can.
I
can
go,
ask
ncr
the
organizer,
what
their
what
they're
requiring
I
I'm
not
sure
right
now
I
can
ask
and
then
let
you
know.
H
Yeah
hi
and
I
apologize-
I
was
not
at
the
last
meeting
so
this
may
have
been
answered,
but
I'm
not
seeing
the
ranking
form
for
this
year
to
evaluate
this
year's
project.
Are
we
going
to
do
that
this
year?
If
not,
what
is
the
process
by
which
we're
supposed
to
be
tabulating
scores
for
the
various
proposals.
L
So
we
haven't,
we
haven't,
sent
out
like
the
full
list
yet
and
so
we're
just
kind
of
making
our
way
through
each
of
these
q
and
a
sessions
people
wanted
to
do
it
while
we
were
going
through
the
q,
a
sessions
and
talking
about
other
task
force
after
so
once
we're
done,
I
think,
on
friday
we
should
send
out,
like
the
master
list
of
ranking
recommendations,
and
then
you'll
have,
I
think,
about
a
month
before
you
have
to
turn
it
in,
but
we
will
send
out,
like
the
the
main
template.
B
B
We
feel
that,
since
it
is
our
rule
that
we
have
recommendations
from
the
task
force
groups
that
we
try
to
have
that
complete
for
members
before
they
start
their
ranking
process.
We
know
that
many
of
us
want
to
get
started
on
day
one
so
that
we're
not
waiting
to
the
last
two
or
three
weeks.
I
That
was
a
side
of
this
is
john
bernstein.
That
was
a
side
effect
of
the
change
in
the
schedule
this
year.
Instead
of
having
two
huge
days
of
presentations,
we
just
have
the
one
day,
that's
a
little
bit
longer
and
a
lot
of
two
hour
meetings,
which
is
the
good
news
that
the
thing
that
had
to
change
was
how
we
go
about
distributing
the
score
sheet
and
there
was
concern
about
having
multiple
copies
out
there.
So
we
were
waiting
until
all
of
the
task
force.
I
B
Okay,
then,
I
think
the
next
thing
will
be
the
breakout
session,
so.
L
True
strand,
I
was
gonna
say
so,
was
there
anything
I
know
we
had
talked
previously
about
asking
people
to
help
prepare
materials
for
the
community
connections
conference?
Was
there
anything?
How
did
you?
How
did
you
want
to
go
about
that.
B
Well,
what
I'd
like
to
suggest?
Having
done
community
connections
multiple
times
as
a
neighborhood
and
community
engagement,
commissioner,
that
one
thing
that
the
city
staff
at
the
ncr
department
did
for
us
was
they
they
just
did
a
simple.
B
You
know:
foam
back
board,
maybe
like
a
two
by
three
foot
presentation
board
which
gave
the
names
of
the
commissioners
and
their
districts
so
like.
If
you
had
something
easy
for,
you
would
be
like
the
city
map
and
maybe
the
click
member
names
by
mayoral
or
award
appointment
that
you
know
the
members
who
are
able
to
attend
could
just
prop
that
up
and
then
you
know
the
public
could
walk
by
and
say.
Oh
that's
interesting,
how
do
I
learn
about
click?
B
And
so,
if,
if
the
executive
committee
can
work
with
staff
to
put
together
like
a
one-page
fact
sheet
that
tells
about
click,
you
know
plain
language,
simple
explanation
and
then
that
would
be
printed
up
in
quantities
to
give
out
to
members
so
it'd,
be
both
a
excuse
me
an
informational
tool
and
a
maybe
a
recruiting
for
the
next
two-year
cycle.
Since
our
terms
all
end
at
the
end
of
this
year.
B
S
Yeah
I
too
have
been
to
and
presented
and
attended
several
community
connections
connections,
conferences.
S
One
thing:
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
both
in
a
bulletin
board
and
if
not
that,
just
as
a
handout
would
be
the
table
of
contents
of
all
the
projects
that
were
the
capital
budget
requests
that
were
reviewing
this
year
and
a
link
as
to
how
to
get
there.
So
they
can
further
an
individual
can
later
on,
go
back
and
explore.
Maybe
a
project,
that's
in
their
neighborhood
thanks.
S
Yeah
either
that
or
I
tell
you,
I
think
that
the
table
of
contents
is
a
perfect
way
of
sort
of
seeing
how
things
are
divided
up
by
different
things,
and
it's
a
little
less
of
a
spreadsheet.
It's
a
little
more
comfortable
to
do,
but
it's
either
way.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
just
having
something
that
can
people
can
find
these
things
easily
and
we
can
explain
how
to
find
them
would
be
helpful.
S
B
L
I'm
not
sure
on
that
I'll.
Okay,
I
can
go
find
out
more,
but
okay.
L
Think
will
be
an
issue
but
okay,
I'm
not
sure
I'm
not
phone
board,
but
we
can
you-
and
we
can
talk
more
about
that.
Okay,.
F
Yeah
neil:
is
there
a
a
handout
that
that
sort
of
takes
it
out
of
the
project,
an
understanding
of
capital
planning
as
being
projects
and
making
it
more
applicable
to
your
normal
person
on
the
streets,
understanding
that
if,
if
there's
brown
water
coming
in
to
your
faucet,
this
is
the
place
to
come
to
to
find
out
about
water
mains.
F
Do
you
do
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
Is
there
something
it
better
explains
what
we
look
at
and
and
why
it's
important
to
participate
so.
L
We
have
like
some
language
that
we,
I
think
you
guys
had
developed
last
year
the
year
before
and
like
a
flyer
that
went
out,
I
can
I
can
put
that
in
the
sharepoint
and
see
if
that's
language,
you
all
would
want
to
be
used
in
the
use
for
a
handout.
But
my
suggestion
is
that
I
like
we
should
just
like
appoint
a
few
people
to
work
on
this,
and
then
we
can
talk
more
about
this
next
time
or
on
the
side.
U
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
say
as
we're
thinking
through
the
community
conference,
so
no
one
in
the
budget
office
has
been
to
or
worked
at
a
community
conference,
because
most
of
us
are
new
during
the
last
two
years
when
it
was
not
up
and
running.
So
we
would
take
your
you
know.
We
want
to
support
your
vision
for
how
this
looks
for
the
click
stand,
the
click
booth
or
whatever
they're
called.
U
U
If
you
could
get
us
a
list
like
today,
then
we
can
figure
out
if
that's
something
that
exists,
try
and
use
our
networks
to
think
that
of
you
know,
colleagues
that
have
done
this
before
to
see
if
there
are
resources
that
would
help,
but
if
we
could
get
an
early
notice
so
that
we
have
time
to
do
that,
outreach.
U
That
would
be
helpful
and
then,
of
course,
if
there
are
handouts
that
you
want
to
make
that
are
that
take
this
information
and
put
it
in
a
different
lens
always
helpful
to
have
non-finance
brains
on
this.
U
So
we
can,
we
can
do
copies.
We
can
print
that
stuff
out,
as
so
long
as
we
have
enough
notice.
So
I
think
if
there
are
a
list
of
things
that
you
want
us
to
investigate,
let
us
know
so
that
we
can
get
started
on
that,
because
this
is
a
new
thing
for
us
in
the
budget
office
as
well.
B
Sounds
perfect
and
yeah,
I
have
to
admit
that
we
relied
on
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
to
do
the
printing
so.
B
I
will
not
meaning
to
violate
a
rule,
but
I'll
put
up.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
put
a
picture
from
a
previous
public
engagement
session
that
a
former
commissioner
nick
chikowitz
and
I
were
volunteering
for
the
city,
and
so
we
we
were
tabling,
and
I
think
I
have
examples.
I
have
the
example
because
it
was
a
one-time
use
thing
of
the
poster
board
that
ncr
did
for
the
ncec.
B
B
L
Can
I
give
one
last
reminder:
can
you
go
back
to
that
last
slide,
justin,
just
as
a
reminder,
so
somebody
I'm
following
up
on
some
of
your
questions
that
you've
had
from
previous
sessions.
In
that
click
inquiries
document
it's
in
the
sharepoint,
so
there's
a
23
through
28
tab.
L
So
I've
been
trying
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
I
know
of
that
that
either,
if
you've
like
gone
and
try
to
talk
to
like
one
of
the
departments
like
also
just
please
try
to
like
forward
those
responses
and
questions
to
finance,
but
I'm
trying
to
follow
up
on
some
of
those
questions
through
this
23
through
28
click
inquiry
so
check
there.
L
If
you're
looking
for
an
answer
on
an
outstanding
question,
additionally,
ethics
training,
please
try
to
get
this
done
by
4
29,
so
friday,
we'd
really
appreciate
it
with
that.
Oh,
it
looks
like
dan
and
question.
B
S
L
B
So
task
force
chairs.
Are
you
wanting
to
state
anything
about
the
friday
half
day
meeting?
So
I'd
I'd
like
to
suggest,
because
of
the
volume
of
capital
budget
requests
being
looked
at
on
friday,
that
we
try
to
wrap
up
the
q
a
by
11
15,
to
give
transportation
task
force
an
opportunity
to
do
all
its
ratings,
which
will
be
a
voluminous
list
right.
John.
I
Yeah,
I
guess
the
only
thing
I'd
say
about
that.
I
I'll
talk
when
we
break
out
I'll
talk
more
to
transportation,
about
that,
I'm
going
to
try
to
build
in
some
time
past
the
actual
meeting
scheduled
meeting
time
if
we
can
end
by
11
15,
that's
great,
but
by
the
same
token
you
know.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
aren't
left
with
questions
that
are
unanswered.
B
F
Well,
just
one
if
we
get
lost
again
as
we
did
last
week,
so
we
should
just
log
back
in
and
you'll
move
us
over
there
correct.
B
B
So
I
asked
members
and
staff
if
there
any
other
matters
to
come
before
this
meeting,
seeing
none,
if
not
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned
in
the
conclusion
of
the
task
force
breakout
rooms.
Our
next
meeting
is
friday
april
29
2022.
Thank
you.
Everyone
off
to
the
breakout
rooms.
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
open
the
breakout
room
for
transportation.
As
a
reminder,
we
just
had
a
little
issue
with
this
last
couple
meetings:
give
it
a
minute
to
get
your
audio
to
sync.
You
might
not
see
video
right
away
if
you
do
get
disconnected
just
rejoin
this
meeting,
we'll
get
you
over
there
and
open
that
room
and
you
will
automatically
move
momentarily.
A
E
I
A
A
F
Great
great
great,
thank
you,
everyone
we
have
quite
a
few
to
get
through
today.
So,
let's
see
if
we
can
do
them
in
chunks,
the
the
one
one
of
the
things
I
worked
on
this
week
with
with
neil
is
we're.
Gonna
have
a
separate,
folder
or
separate
file
for
comments,
so
we
can
all
start
writing
into
that
that
single
document,
we'll
we'll
have
more
on
that
this,
coming
probably
at
the
friday
meeting,
we've
already
started
with
one
matt
kozinka.
F
Thank
you
for
getting
the
the
first
comment
done.
You
I'll
send
out
the
link
a
little
later.
F
Okay,
we
have
two
fire
stations.
A
F
Okay,
that's
that's
perfect.
F
Okay,
fire
stations,
any
comments
here,
as
you
can
see
what
we
scored
them
at
last
year
in
the
case
of
fire
station
number
11,
that
was
significant
and
strong
contribution.
F
Okay,
any
discussion,
otherwise
I
think
we'll
move
forward
and
just
keep
them
at
at
last
year's
scoring
okay
hearing
none.
Let's
move
on
to
mpd,
as
you
might
recall,
last
year,
we
we
had
some
difficulty
because
it
was
no
request
for
the
third
precinct
and
the
the
ranking
for
the
first
and
the
fourth
precincts
were
a
little
messy.
So
we
had
an
extensive
comment
to
in
in
the
click
report
that
that
asked
for
more
information,
some
of
it
policy,
information
and
other
planning
information.
F
F
Okay,
let's
do
the
first
precinct.
First,
any
comments.
F
Thoughts,
do
people
remember
the
this.
This
particular
precinct.
F
Okay,
I
see
nods.
If,
if
there
are
no
comments,
I
think
we'll
we'll
just
keep
it
at
that
score
and
move
on
to
the
fourth
precinct
any
objections,
if
not
fourth
precinct,
okay.
So
it's
clear
from
today's
discussion
and
I
partaked
in
that
discussion
katrina.
Do
you
what
are
your
thoughts
here?
I
see
your
hand
raised.
P
Well,
the
thought
similar
to
what
jeff
and
you
and
I
don't
know
if
josslyn
said
anything,
but
it's
just
weird-
that
the
city
would
take
a
34
year
old
building
and
then
now
I
mean,
even
though
that's
what
the
cbr
says,
but
it
sounded
like
there
was.
I
mean
the
guy
that
did
the
presenting
was
still
confused
but
they're
asking
for
money
and
they
have
no
direction
still.
F
Yeah
I
so
I
remember
this
project
from
a
couple
years
ago
and
they
had
outgrown
the
space
is
basically
what
happened
and
they
were
still
under
the
notion
that
they
just
wanted
to
have
one
building
one
precinct,
building
without
decentralizing
any
of
the
functions.
F
I
I
think,
if
we
throw
in
that
that
the
the
the
notion
of
having
satellites
as
you
call
them,
I
think
that's
the
way
to
go.
It
needs
to
be
an
extensive
commentary
that
explains
more
than
the
the
34
years,
but
also
discusses
the
the
ability
to
improve
services
and
to
move
the
the
public
safety
services
closer
to
the
community.
I
think
it
could
be
a
substantial,
a
sort
of
a
meaty
explanation
about
why
we
think
they
need
to
really
think
of
this
with
the
community
engagement.
P
G
G
G
E
Adjustment
yep,
I
was,
I
wanted
to
put
my
hand
down
first,
so
I'm
trying
to
use
my
logical
brain
and
not
in
my
emotional,
so
decentralized.
I
I
agree
that
services
should
be
decentralized.
E
I
agree
that
the
fourth
precinct
looks
like
a
fortress
and
the
people
that
are
in
it
behave
as
though
it
is
a
fortress.
E
I
also
am
of
the
belief
that
in
our
current
situation,
police
don't
deter
crime,
they
come
after
things
have
happened,
so
possibly
putting
them
closer
and
possibly
putting
them
closer
will
shorten
shorten
the
time
for
them
to
get
where
they
should
be.
However,
someone
that
has
called
the
police
and
them
not
show
up
or
show
up
hours
and
hours
later.
It's
not
because
I
was
it's
not.
I
don't
believe
it
was
because
I
was
so
far
away
from
the
fourth
precinct.
E
So
I
there
there
is
a
conversation
that
need
there
need,
there's
an
honest
conversation
that
needs
to
be
had
about
the
fourth
precinct,
where
it
is
and
what
it
represents
to
the
community
what
it
is
sitting
in
place
of
historically-
and
so
I
I
think
katrina
said
it
in
in
the
broader
meeting
that
the
community
needs
to
whatever
happens
with
that
building
footprint
or
whatever.
E
There
needs
to
be
truth
and
reconciliation
about
the
fourth
precinct
before,
because
otherwise
the
community
is
going
to
feel
like,
as
we
feel
constantly
that
things
are
being
done
to
us
and
that
we
don't
get
input,
and
even
though
we
hear
in
this
community
in
this
committee
that
it's
not
a
broader
conversation
and
that
it'll
it's,
if
not
done
well,
it's
gonna
just
provide
more
animosity
and
not
be
a
conversation
about
public
safety.
D
Yeah,
the
minnesota
department
of
human
rights
just
came
out
with
a
pretty
important
piece.
I
think
in
this
discussion.
A
lot
of
these
projects
and
proposals
were
done
before
we
had
kind
of
an
honest
conversation
about
what
happens
and
what
needs
to
go
happen
going
forward,
and
so
I
think,
as
we
look
at
scoring
these
projects,
it's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
there's
language,
that's
pointing
out
you're,
you're
kind
of
pushing
something-
that's
different.
D
I
don't
know
what
that
means
or
how
that
looks,
but
I
think
that
that
all
plays
into
that
we're
looking
at
different
things
and
when
maybe
it
is
substations
multiple
buildings
because
we're
just
shifting
things
down,
and
so
I
would
be
hesitant,
as
you
know,
even
as
we're
scoring
some
of
these
projects.
D
I
understand
that
change
has
to
happen,
but
just
change
based
on
old
models
is
not
what
we're
looking
at
doing
and
not
what
we're
looking
at
funding
and
so
yeah,
just
as
we
that
goes
to
our
comment
and
also
how
much
money
we
put
toward
a
building.
I
think
we
should
be
cautious
on
throwing
a
whole
bunch
of
money
if
it
just
ends
up
with
the
same
old
pattern,
because
we're
really
trying
to
break
those
patterns
and
sometimes
starting
with
the
funding
that
can
help
re-establish
how
to
do
things
in
a
proper
way.
F
Okay,
I'm
gonna
add
something
here.
Our
comments
from
three
two
three
years
ago,
in
effect,
had
to
explain
why
we,
we
ranked
the
police
facilities
very
low.
F
It
wasn't
because
they
weren't
a
priority,
but
because
the
discussions
had
not
advanced
far
enough
for
us
to
know
where
the
community
wanted
to
go,
and
we,
I
think
we
pretty
much
repeated
that
comment
last
year,
we're
looking
for
leadership,
we're
looking
for
policy
guidance
from
from
the
from
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
on
where
the
city
is
going,
so
that
we
can
leverage
the
capital
investments
in
a
way
that
best
supports
that
vision.
F
F
P
Thor
brings
up
a
really
really
good
point
and
I
just
want
to
address
willie's
points,
because
the
majority
of
his
points
through
renovation
and
reconstruction
on
a
current
building
can
all
be
dr
addressed.
I
mean
what
the
aesthetics
of
the
building
are.
I
mean
it's,
it's
very
80s
design,
but
the
statics
can
be
changed
a
lot
easier
than
just
deserting
a
building
and
moving
off.
But
the
biggest
thing
is
what
jocelyn
said,
and
you
know
I'm
a
privileged
white
woman
and
I
feel,
like
things
are
being
done
to
me
here.
P
I
can't
imagine
if
I
was
a
person
of
color
how
that
would
feel
so.
Community
engagement,
especially
when
they're
the
city
talks
about
lead
the
whole
lead
thing,
is
everybody's
input
up
front
because
you
save
so
much
more
money
than
like
upper
harbor.
You
know
upper
harbor
was
designed.
A
lot
of
money
was
put
up
front.
Then
the
community
said
hey.
We
haven't
been
engaged
on
this.
There
was
a
lot
of
money
wasted
on
that
upper
harbor
because
they
didn't
engage
the
community
appropriately.
F
Okay,
so
we
have
one
one
and
four
are
a
little
different
from
three
three.
There
is
no
building
that
there's
and
thor.
I
think
you
spoke
to
that
in
a
in
a
very,
very
in
a
very
important.
I
I
assume
you
live
in,
that
precinct.
D
Yes
in
in
the
ventura
village,
part
of
phillips,
so
very
impacted
by
these
things.
I
know
longfellow
is
having
a
meeting
here
shortly,
just
again
kind
of
echoing
those
thoughts
of
when
you
drive
past
it's
more
than
just
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
building
or
how
are
we
doing
policing?
It's
just
a
reminder
of
tragic
events
that
were
very
damaging
to
a
whole,
the
community
as
a
whole,
and
you
just
have
to
look
at
it
and
be
reminded
over
and
over
again.
D
So
so
to
me,
there
has
to
be
something
has
to
happen
and
when
I
look
at
the
scale
of
time
frame
of
thinking,
oh
so
another
two
and
a
half
years
of
just
a
building
sitting
there
before
money's
put
in
or
however
those
things
happen.
That
seems
off
in
how
we
should
prioritize
the
seriousness
of
change
that
needs
to
be
happening
and
that
that
building
is
still
kind
of
a
it's
just
a
it's
just
like
there's
lots
of
different
words,
but
that
something
needs
to
be
done
and
so
the
prior.
D
I
guess
I'm
encouraged
that
they're
already
talking
about
the
community
when
we
talk
about
leading
first,
the
community
groups
are
coming
together
and
saying
here's
what
we
want
to
have
happen.
So
I
think
some
of
the
initial
community
engagement
is
happening
already
and
so
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
funding
can
follow
behind
what
I
would
say
more
quickly
than
or
as
quick
as
possible
within
the
funding
process.
D
When
the
community
has
spoken
that
there's
action
and
that
people
don't
have
to
sit
and
say,
oh
they're
not
going
to
do
anything
anyways,
they
never
listen
to
us.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
funding
in
place
so
that
when
the
community
speaks
then
there's
action
that
can
be
taken
on
what
the
community
is
saying.
G
Okay,
I
want
to,
if
I
can,
I
want
to
concur
with
what
thor
saying
I
live
in
the
third
precinct
also-
and
I
know
the
community
neighborhood
saying
they
want
where's
the
police
they're
too
far.
They
never
get
to
win
their
calls
too
far
away
and
everything-
and
I
would
just
you,
know,
reprioritize
it-
I
think
it's
critical-
they
need
to
do
something
with
their.
F
So
so,
may
I
entertain
a
motion
here
on
third
precinct
because
we
don't
have
a
prior
year
on
it.
So
you've
used.
Will
you
use
the
term
critical
is?
Is
that
the
level
of
need
that
you're
you're,
citing.
D
I
would
agree
with
that
and
a
strong
contribution
with
a
very
strongly
worded
comment
that
just
says
this
th.
We
are
highlighting
this
because
the
community
is
asking
for
this
and
they
have
to
be
listened
to.
This,
isn't
we're
not
just
pushing
something
forward,
but.
F
Okay,
may
I
make
a
recommendation
here?
Yes
justin,
I
think
that's
what
I'm
hearing
strong
and
critical.
Let's
organize
the
these.
The
comments
on
the
police
department,
beginning
with
the
question
of
public
participation,
engagement
of
the
public
in
the
discussion
and
then
also
do
specifics
on
comments
on
the
first
precinct
separate
comments
on
the
third
precinct
and
separate
comments
in
the
fourth
precinct.
P
Sorry
yeah,
I
could
do
it
with
somebody,
but
I'm
a
crappy
writer,
I'm
a
I'll
draw
pictures,
but
I'm
a
crappy
writer.
F
Partnership-
okay,
first
precinct,
do
we?
Is
there
really
anything
to
discuss
about
the
first
precinct.
F
I'm
not
sure
that
that
really
calls
for
any
commentary.
Okay,
I
think
we're
set
on
mpd
wait
a
minute
eric
yeah,
please.
P
A
C
G
Maybe
help
a
little
bit
that
first
present
we
talked
about
before
they
were
going
to
build
the
buildings
at
dump.
For
one
thing:
it's
literally
a
dump
and
they
were
going
to
buy
land.
That's
why
I
brought
the
question
up,
so
it's
been
discussed
about
that
building
before
that
everyone
agrees,
the
building
need
to
be.
They
need
to
move
out
of
the
building,
there's
not
enough
space
female
there's,
not
enough
space,
there's
not
enough
anything
in
that
building.
It's
a
dump!
P
F
F
Well,
we
we
can
do
that.
We
we
do
that
in
the
process
in
later
in
this
process:
okay,
okay,
yeah,
okay,
all
right
neil
go
ahead.
L
I
was
gonna,
say
yeah
during
the
programming
phase.
We
I
mean
that's
one
option
you
all
have
is
to
shift
things
around
from
year
to
year,
so
that
is
that
was
an
option
you
had
last
year
too.
R
No,
I
think
I
think
katrina
is
right
if,
if
we
have
the
power
to
move
projects
from
year
to
year,
my
understanding
is
when
we
did
that
last
year.
That
was
solely
for
the
for
the
need
to
balance
the
budgets
because
they
weren't
coming
out
based
on
how
we
rank
them
so
yeah.
Yes,
we
definitely
have
the
authority
to
move
projects
around
before
we
rank
them
and
therefore
take
that
into
consideration
for
the
rankings.
R
F
A
Right
really
that
does
happen
in
the
programming
phase,
so
you
need
to
evaluate
the
cbr
as
it's
written,
to
see,
project
priority
contribution,
city
goals.
Based
on
what
was
submitted
to
click,
I
would
recommend
you
determine
your
recommended
range
for
the
task
force,
obviously
individually.
As
members,
you
can
decide
to
deviate
from
that,
we'll
see
where
these
projects
all
fall,
amongst
all
click
members,
and
then
that's
the
time
really
to
get
into
that
programming.
F
Okay,
without
objection,
let's
move
beyond
the
police
now.
F
A
F
So
I'm
thinking
we
could
give
ourselves
two
minutes
back
by
adjourning
early.
F
F
Okay,
great
willie,
do
you
have
any
final
comments
before
we
adjourn.
F
I
don't
okay,
thank
you.
Everyone,
if
you
have
any
problems,
preparing
comments,
give
us
email
either
jocelyn
or
me,
and
we'll
work
together
on
that.
So
thank
everyone.
We'll
see
you.
When
do
we
see
you
again.