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Live teleconference of the Mountain View Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting scheduled for Thursday, May 26, 2022.
C
Very
good,
hello,
everybody.
C
Excuse
me,
I
guess
we
will
call
this
to
order
during
this
declared
state
of
emergency.
The
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
california
government
code,
549
53e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city.clerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
C
C
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Emails
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30
p.m
will
not
be
read
during
the
meeting
but
will
be
entered
into
the
record
for
the
meeting,
and
with
that
ms
ramberg,
would
you
like
to
take
roll.
B
Yes
share
frank
president:
vice
chair
wang
president
member
burdowski,
president
member
president,
member
langton,.
C
And
with
that
we'll
move
on
to
oral
communications
item,
three
is
oral
communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
advisory
board
on
any
matter,
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
C
E
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
can
hi.
Thank
you
so
much
chair,
franken
board
members.
My
name
is
dana
peady,
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
mountain
view
coalition
for
police
reform
and
accountability,
we're
in
brief
mvc
bro
for
short,
if
we
can
call
that
shorter,
we're
a
group
of
mountain
view,
community
members
who
care
deeply
about
the
public
safety
and
well-being
of
our
city-
and
we
have
one
thing
we
wanted
to
raise
at
this
time.
E
The
document
is
not
binding,
so
staff
and
leadership
can
still
make
necessary
adjustments
until
the
agenda's
published,
but
it
gives
everybody
a
really
important
heads-up
about
what
to
look
into
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
I
hope
you'll
consider
this
as
an
important
way
to
advance
the
work
of
psab
in
a
thoughtful
and
transparent
way.
G
Sorry
about
that,
no
little
freeze
up
on
my
end,
hi
tim,
he
him
pronouns,
I'm
sure
y'all,
know
me,
I'm
a
regular
attendee.
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
what
what
happened
in
texas
earlier
this
week
and
and
point
out
that,
according
to
reports
coming
out
from
the
associated
press,
there
were
more
than
40
minutes.
While
cops
were
on
the
scene
armed
and
not
going
in
and
dealing
with
the
situation.
G
I
don't
think
it's
worthwhile
to
talk
about
whether
that
would
happen
with
mountain
view,
police
in
an
ideal
world
we
will
never
have
to
know
and
that
sort
of
horror
will
never
come
to
our
community,
but
just
wanna
and
the
nightmare
scenario.
That's
often
brought
up.
We
see
time
and
again
that
there
is
not
the
response
that
we
would
hope
or
expect
generally
from
the
police,
but
outside
of
that
earlier
the
what
happened
on
tuesday,
what
happened
in
buffalo
a
little
just
within
the
past
fortnight.
G
These
things
don't
happen
suddenly,
like
this
was
planned.
This
was
calculated
by
these
individuals
who
are
very
clearly
obviously
sick
or
broken
in
some
way,
and
I
just
wonder
how
many
upstream
points
there
were
for
intervention
that
we
as
society
missed
before.
We
came
to
the
point
where
there
was
this
crisis
and
thinking
about
how
what
public
safety
really
looks
like
how
we
can
build
structures
where
no
one
ever
reaches
the
point
where
they
would
do
something
so
horrific,
rather
than
thinking
of
how
we
would
try
to
respond
in
that
situation.
C
B
All
right
share
frank.
D
B
C
Thank
you,
okay
and
then
moving
on
to
item
number
five.
So
we
will
have
an
update
from
the
psap
subcommittee
on
mental
health
crisis
and
I'll
turn
that
over
to
the
staff.
B
Sorry
about
that,
let
me
try
again.
B
We're
currently
gathering
information
about
what
are
the
needs
and
resources
in
mountain
view,
for
mental
health
crisis
and
and
we're
going
to
use
that
information
to
compile
an
informal
community
profile
that
we
can
share
with
santa
clara
county
behavioral
health,
so
that
they
know
our
community
a
bit
better
than
maybe
they
do,
since
their
focus
has
not
historically
been
in
north
county,
and
that
we
also
will
follow
that
up
with
gathering
information
or
providing
information
to
them
about
how
they
can
promote
these
programs,
so
that
there's
broad
awareness
of
them
and
also
be
a
conduit
to
seek
community
feedback
about
the
programs
once
they
are
up
and
running
in
mountain
view.
B
So,
last
time
when
I
presented
the
subcommittee's
update,
I
showed
a
chart
with
lots
of
words
about
the
different
types
of
data
we
wanted
to
gather
and
the
different
community-based
organizations
non-profits
and
governmental
agencies.
We
wanted
to
talk
to
to
learn
more
about
this,
and
this
is
a
list
of
the
contacts
that
we've
made
to
date,
and
I
will
invite,
when
I'm
done
with
the
presentation,
commissioner
ir
and
vice
chair
wang,
to
add
anything.
B
If
I
missed
any
of
the
agencies
that
you've
since
been
able
to
connect
with-
and
then
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
some
preliminary
data-
and
this
would
be
the
kind
of
data
that
we
would
include
in
the
community
profile,
which
would
help
inform
the
county-
and
some
of
this
data
comes
from
our
own
police
department,
the
first
three
bullets
and
then
the
fourth
bullet.
B
That's
county
provided
data
from
county
behavioral
health,
and
so
the
the
city
police
department
began
tagging
the
calls
that
are
coming
into
the
pd
when
there
is
a
believed
to
be
or
perceived
to
be
a
mental
health
or
a
behavioral
health
issue
and
that
tracking
began
in
2019.
B
But
not
I
don't
have
it
for
the
whole
of
2019
and
obviously
we
don't
have
the
whole
of
2022.
Yet
so
I'm
providing
here
the
totals
for
2020
and
2021.
So
you
can
see
that
the
number
did
increase
between
those
two
years
and
another
thing,
in
addition
to
the
potential
for
greater
levels
of
behavioral
health
need
in
the
community
reaching
a
point
of
crisis
and
involving
a
call
to
the
police.
B
I
think
there
also
has
been
a
an
evolution
in
the
way
that
police
officers
and
dispatch
are
being
educated
and
supported
around
how
to
use
that
tag
so
that
they're
using
it
appropriately,
and
so
I
think
these
are
not
numbers
to
to
draw
too
many
conclusions
from,
but
they,
along
with
all
the
other
data
points,
certainly
do
help
to
paint
a
picture
of
need
in
in
mountain
view,
and
then
only
just
this
year
with
the
implementation
of
the
racial
and
identity
and
profiling
act.
B
Data
collection
there
are,
there
was
the
option
to
include
some
additional
data
above
and
beyond
what
the
state
requires
with
regard
to
racial
demographics
or
perceived
demographics,
and
this
is
to
record
the
officer's
belief
about
whether
behavioral
health
was
a
factor
in
in
their
interaction
and
for,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
might
we
just
have
this
one
quarter
of
data,
so
these
45
yeses
that
that
you
sent
to
me
are
just
for
january
through
march
of
2021.
B
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
Our
our
dispatch
also
has
notes
when
overdose
is
referenced
in
calls
for
police
service
and
assistance,
and
these
numbers
provide
the
trend
over
2018
through
2021
committee
members.
You
saw
a
different
set
of
numbers
that
looked
larger
and
and
less
comparable
across
years,
and
that
was
because
of
a
data
error
where
basically
the
the
two.
B
You
know
the
bullet
that
I
first
went
over
and
these
numbers
were
added
together,
and
so
that's
why
those
other
numbers
look
so
curious
to
us,
and-
and
this
is
how
they
look
to
us
now,
which
is
is-
was
comforting
because
they
they
looked
rather
large
and
increasing,
and
then
the
county
data
that
I
have.
I
don't
think
they
have
anything
beyond
2019.
B
The
the
latest
available
report
is
through
2019
and
there
were
six
suicides
in
mountain
view
in
2019
when
that
is
presented
as
a
rate
per
100
000
residents,
and
that
is
a
was
a
rate
of
7.3
per
100
000
residents.
B
Obviously
we
don't
have
a
hundred
thousand
residents,
and
so
the
number
in
2019
was
was
six
and
when
you,
when
I
look
at
that
data
across
other
cities,
surprisingly
similar
for
2019
with
sunnyvale
santa
clara
and
san
jose,
and
then
there
were
a
few
cities
that
were
lower
and
a
few
cities
that
were
higher
lower,
was
campbell
and
higher,
was
palo,
alto
and
los
altos.
B
And
then
with
six
it's.
You
know
it's
hard
to
do
subgroup
analysis
with
six,
but
what
the
county
does
is
they
take
a
five
year
total
and
so
from
2015
to
19?
There
were
22
suicides
in
mountain
view
and.
B
Doing
subgroup
analysis,
the
county
found
that
the
majority
were
white
individuals
who
completed
the
act
of
suicide
and
the
second
was
was
asian
and
there
were
no,
no
other
ethnic
or
racial
groups
indicated
in
that
subgroup,
analysis
and
then
in
terms
of
age
in
terms
of
the
number
of
completed
suicides
are
pretty
evenly
distributed
across
the
different
age
subgroupings.
B
But
in
that
each
subgroup
is
not
of
a
similar
size.
If
you
look
at
the
rate
it's
highest
among
15
to
24
year
olds,.
B
And
then
of
the
people
we've
talked
with
so
far,
where
I
had
notes
and
to
kind
of
try
to
compile
emerging
themes.
I
guess
I
would
have
wanted
to
entitle
that
emerging
themes,
because
you
know
there's
still
more
people
to
talk
to,
and
this
is
just
for
like
related
to
youth,
and
we
will
want
to
have
similar
information
for
adult
mental
health
crisis,
that
the
number
of
people
and
the
severity
or
intensity
of
the
needs
that
they're
expressing
are
increasing.
B
The
presenting
issues
are
anxiety,
depression,
substance,
abuse,
self-harm
and
sexual
assault.
The
source
of
referrals
is
predominantly
for
youth,
the
students
themselves
and
with
teachers.
Second,
interestingly,
parents
further
down
on
that
list,
and
then
the
barriers
to
service-
and
this
is
anecdotal-
is
that
people
aren't
aware
of
what's
available
or
how
to
go
about
getting
help.
B
There
are
long
waiting
lists
for
assistance
and
with
youth
themselves.
It
seems
that
the
stigma
is
this.
Is
you
know?
B
One
of
the
bright
spots,
I
think,
is
that
it's
becoming
more
welcoming
for
young
people
to
talk
about
their
mental
health
needs,
but
that
doesn't
always
anecdotally
translate
to
the
parents,
comfort
levels,
and
so
I
got
the
sense
from
talking
with
the
person
at
the
district
that
I
talked
to,
that
there
might
still
be
some
stigma
and
then
the
person
jeannette
talked
to,
I
thought,
had
some
really
great
ideas
for
how
to
raise
awareness
about
these
new
county
programs.
B
Although
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
both
trust
and
mcrt
are
not
youth
serving
programs,
they
are
adult
serving
programs,
the
mcrt
counterpart
part,
the
county,
supported
crisis
response
for
youth
is
called
uplift,
and
I
think
that
would
apply
to
uplift
as
well.
B
These
ideas
of
having
county
facilitated
resource
fairs
and
for
the
counselors,
and
maybe
not
just
school
counselors,
but
other
kinds
of
helpers
in
the
community
in
the
the
assistance
networks
that
are
in
the
community,
so
that
people
really
knew
how
to
make
referrals
and
get
people
where
they
needed
to
go
having
the
programs
have
navigators
or
advocates.
B
B
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen.
Those
were
all
of
the
slides
and
I
would
invite
the
other,
the
subcommittee
members
to
add
anything
that
I
may
have
missed.
F
So,
thank
you
audrey
for
I
saying
audrey,
because
I
always
mess
up
your
title.
I
was
assistant
city
manager,
ramberg,
okay,
I
was
I
want
to
call
you
a
deputy.
I
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
me.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I'm
getting
good
traction
with
el
camino
health,
but
there's
a
lot
of
compliance
issues
and
giving
us
data,
so
it's
taking
a
little
bit
longer,
but
they
they
want
to
help.
F
So
that's
good
news
and
I've
also
anecdotally,
found
out
you
know,
depending
on
your
the
circumstances
in
which
you're
picked
up,
you
could
get
shuttle
to
el
camino,
which
is
a
private
hospital
or
you
could
get
sent
to
valley.
Med
and
chances
are.
If
you
look
like
you're
an
under-resourced,
individual,
you
typically
get
sent
to
valley
med.
F
So
I
wanted
to
ask
more
about
that
because
I
was
like
that
doesn't
feel
good
to
me,
but
I
mean
I
can
understand
if
you're
a
private
hospital
you
you
want
people
who
can
you
know,
I
guess
more
obviously
can
pay,
but
I'd
like
to
understand
how
those
decisions
are
made.
So
I'm
that's
kind
of
my
update.
Thank
you.
A
Anyone
else,
I
think,
I'm
my
part
assistant
city
manager
and
we're
pretty
much
covered.
H
H
I
think-
and
somebody
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
they
have
to
receive
mental
health
patients
and
I
don't
even
know
if
they
have
a
if
they
have
a
mental
health
unit
which
stanford
does
and
valley
med
has
has
won
and
is
fairly
good,
and
then
they
have
that
other
one
that
just
was
recently
inaugurated
that
we
heard
about
I
think
a
year
ago.
B
We
can
certainly
ask
those
questions
as
part
of
our
contact
with
the
hospital.
Thank
you.
G
Hi
all
tim-
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
report
and
for
looking
into
this,
like
the
mental
health
services
have
been
pretty
lacking,
but
they're
starting
to
get
programs
off
the
ground
and
really
helping
sort.
This
out
is
hugely
important
and
much
appreciated.
I
want
to
highlight
something
that
vice
chair
wang
said.
I
think
it
was
maybe
at
the
last
meeting
like
especially
with
regards
to
the
youth
mental
health
situation.
G
The
pandemic
has
revealed
a
lot
of
mental
health
issues,
but
it
has
it
didn't
cause
them
and
they're
not
gonna,
go
away
when
the
public
health
crisis
is
over
and
just
remembering
that
really
we're
seeing
things
that
have
been
there
and
and
working
on
that.
It's
great
that
we're,
starting
with
all
the
local
programs,
actually
knowing
the
lay
of
the
land,
is
hugely
important
to
be
able
to
even
begin
to
do
things,
but
I'd
also
like
to
see
possible
other
approaches
that
are
taken
in
other
areas.
G
The
cahoots
program
in
oregon
specifically,
is
one
that
eugene
oregon.
That
I've
heard
heard
interesting
things
about
her
good
things
about
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
an
exploration
of
that
as
a
member
of
the
public,
and
I
will
also
add
a
comment
that
I,
an
old
roommate
of
mine,
used
to
be
a
an
emt
in
santa
clara
county
and
he
told
the
story
one
time
of
bringing
someone
to.
It
was
actually
the
stanford
hospital.
G
G
So
I
think
that
there
is
a
real
thing,
that's
happening
where
private
hospitals
are
trying
to
push
away
anyone
that
they
don't
think
that
they'll
be
able
to
get
money
so
really
shining
a
spotlight
on
that
and
figuring
out
how
to
make
sure
we
actually
just
get
get
people
to
the
care
that
they
need
will
be
really
important.
But
thanks
a
lot.
I
think
this
is
the
work
from
the
subcommittee
is
some
of
the
most
important
work
that
will
be
done.
So
thanks.
Thank
you.
So
much.
E
Hi
there
thank
you
chair,
frank,
dana
pd,
again
on
behalf
of
mvc
bra
we'd,
like
to
thank
ms
bramberg
for
the
detailed
presentation
and
members
ir
tang
and
wang
for
their
work
on
this
really
important
issue.
Other
members
of
nbc
print.
I
have
really
appreciated
hearing
about
the
updates
of
the
mental
health
subcommittee,
we're
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
the
police
contact
data,
subcommittee's
work
in
the
next
agenda
item
and,
in
particular,
we'd
really
love
to
hear
more
perspectives
from
pisa
members
themselves.
E
We
also
know
that
mrs
ramberg
has
a
considerable
amount
of
work
on
her
plate
and
serving
psab.
So
we're
curious.
Is
there
a
chair
of
the
subcommittee
who
could
prepare
and
present
these
updates?
If
there's
no
chair,
perhaps
members
could
rotate
the
responsibility
each
meeting
having
these
updates
prepared
and
presented
by
psab
members
would
provide
more
insights
into
their
perspective
specifically,
so
we
hope
that
you'll
consider
this
possibility
moving
forward,
as
these
subcommittees
continue.
Their
work
as
new
subcommittees
are
formed
in
the
future.
Thanks.
J
Bruce
thank
you,
chair
yeah,
just
really
quick,
joan
asked
about
el
camino
having
mental
health
services.
They
do
just
so
committee
members
know
about
that
and
palo
alto
medical
does
as
well
another
local
resource
thanks.
C
Bruce
are
there
any
members
of
the
board
who
would
like
to
ask
any
additional
questions
or
make
any
other
comments?
Yes,
member
ir.
A
F
And
there's
so
many
acronyms,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
captain
mike
or
and
assistant
city
manager,
ramberg.
Sorry,
I
will
get
it.
You
need
an
acronym
I'll,
get
it
better,
isn't
kahoot
similar
to
trust
in
the
model
of
not
involving
police.
Could
you
say,
could
you
help
us
with
connect
those
dots.
B
That
is
correct.
It
is
a
community-based
model
that
is
staffed
with
social
workers
and
and
people
with
lived
experience
and
health
providers.
It
is,
it
is
not
a
police
involved
model.
It's
it's
purposely
selected
by
the
county
as
a
pilot
program
to
test
that
type
of
approach
similar
to.
C
My
one
comment
about
this
would
be
if
the
the
impetus
around
taking
people
to
valley,
if
they
look
under
resources
because
there
is
funding
at
valley
for
all
of
their
care
versus
the
private
hospital,
just
not
wanting
to
care
for
them
it
just.
It
seems
to
me
that
it
might
be
unnatural
that
if
the
valley,
fair
or
the
valley
facility
is
the
one
for
public,
there
might
be
more
facilities
there
for
them.
I
just
wouldn't
wonder
about
that.
If
that's
an
actual
thing
or
if
it's
something
different.
C
Yeah,
I
just
was
commenting
that
I
noticed
that
saying
that
someone
said
that
that
looks
like
a
valley,
patient
and
I'm
wondering
if
the
valley
is
the
place
where
folks
who
are
under
resource
are
receive
the
best
amount
of
care
because
there's
funding
there
for
them.
I
just
was
curious.
If
that's.
H
I
I
was
volunteering
at
at
el
camino
when
they
had
rota
care,
which
was
a
terrific
clinic
free
clinic
for
anybody
who
didn't
have
any
money
which
el
camino
eliminated
about
five
or
six
years
ago.
But
at
that
time
all
we
sent
all
the
we
could
send
all
of
the
surgical
patients
to
to
valley
med
and-
and
we
could
manage
to
get
them
through
a
little
faster
than
they
would
if
they
just
went
in
cold,
not
always
but
frequently,
and
this
the
medicine
is
good.
The
weights
are
terrible.
C
Thank
you,
okay,
and
I
think
with
that
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
mvpd
complaint
data
quarterly
report.
K
C
I'm
sorry
I
am
wrong.
It
is
the
subcommittee
on
police
contact
data,
my
bad.
K
K
The
scope
of
the
subcommittee,
as
well
as
an
update
and
then
focus
on
the
next
steps
moving
forward
and,
as
the
board
remembers,
the
racial
stop.
Data
was
presented
by
research
fellow
stevenson,
both
in
june
and
august
of
2021,
and
that
was
pre-ripa.
So
that
was
the
data
that
we've
been
collecting
for
years.
K
That
he
examined
and
part
of
that
analysis
was
a
recommendation
for
further
analysis
to
review
that
ripa
data
that
was
going
to
be
coming
in
in
this
year.
That
was
added
to
your
recommended
work
plan
that
was
adopted
by
council
in
september
of
last
year
and
then
starting
in
february
of
this
year.
We
both
had
a
presentation
on
the
on
our
recommendation
for
the
the
subcommittee,
as
well
as
on
an
overview
of
what
the
ripa
act
is.
K
A
K
And
then
the
job
of
an
analyst
in
submitting
that
data
and
ensuring
that
it's
accurate
and
providing
to
the
department
of
justice.
Additionally,
the
subcommittee
is
to
focus
on
reviewing
the
actual
existing
data,
which
now
that
we've
gotten
in
one
full
quarter
submitted.
We
have
and
explore
ways
to
make
that
data
open
and
available
to
the
public
and
to
advise
the
police
department
on
ways
to
partnership
with
the
community
to
determine
additional
data
sharing.
K
That
may
be
useful
in
the
future
and
just
as
a
background,
because
there's
certain
data
we
submit
to
the
department
of
justice
and
there's
other
data
that
they
didn't
ask
us
to
collect
that
we
still
collect.
So
we
have
data
that,
although
we
share
our
main
our
required
grip
of
data,
we
have
our
own
data
internally.
That
there
is,
you
know,
a
need
for
a
mechanism
to
share
the
approach
and
timeline
right
now.
K
We're
gathering
information
both
about
the
ripa
process
and
the
ripa
data,
including,
like
I
mentioned,
what
our
line
level
officers
use,
how
our
sergeants
review
an
audit
and
how
our
analyst
examines
that
data,
and
I
figured
estimate
that
that
will
be
done
by
by
the
end
of
summer
of
this
year.
K
K
If
you
will-
and
that
should
be
done
by
winter-
the
status
of
the
work
to
date,
so
we've
formed
the
subcommittee,
as
I
mentioned
in
february,
and
since
then,
we've
had
three
meetings
march
april
and
may
march
was
a
general
kind
of
overview
of
what
the
work
plan
expectations
were
of
the
subcommittee
april.
K
The
next
steps
will
be
to
set
up
a
shared
drive
to
coordinate
the
subcommittee's
work.
Identify
community
members
start
to
identify
who
it
is
that
we
would
like
to
talk
to.
I
determine
what
those
questions
are
and
then
conduct
those
conversations
to
further
the
recommendation
of
creating
transparency
and
accessibility
of
this
data
to
our
community.
A
H
Yeah,
I
would
I
do
have
a
question
and
it's
it's
been
bugging
me
for
a
while
when
we
were
when,
when
there
was
so
much
antagonism
about
police
two
years
ago
after
the
george
floyd
murder,
the
complaints
about
the
mountain
view.
K
H
Department
came
mostly
from
people
who
were
not
who
don't
live
in
mountain
view,.
L
H
Far
as
I
could
tell
from
listening
to
the
to
city
hall,
and
when
we
had
people
calling
in
here
again,
we
had.
H
H
So
my
question
is:
how
are
we
going
to
engage
with
the
community
and
I
would
like
to
just
put
forth
one
possibility:
yeah
we
can
open
meetings
and
and
publicize
them,
but
are
we
going
to
get
to
the
people
who
might
really
have
concerns
about
the
police,
and
certainly
we
know
that
that
the
latino
community
has
come
hasn't
complained
but
often
does
have
a
problem
with
the
with
police
in
other
places,
not
necessarily
mountain
view,
and
we
have
we
know
of
two
groups
and
they're
both
called
cafecito,
which
are
formed
by
mostly
women,
latino
women,
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
proactively
present
results
to
them
so
I'll.
K
H
And
do
we
have
any
other
any
other
groups
who
who
we're
conscious
of
who
have
difficulty,
who
have
voice
difficulties
with
mountain
view,
police
and
one
of
them
offhand
I
can
think
of-
and
this
was
about
two
or
three
years
ago-
were
the
people
who
were
living
in
in
suvs
and
that's
more
than
two
or
three
years
ago.
It
was
about
four
years
ago
that
I
heard
a
couple
of
people
who
lived
in
this
suv
saying
that
they
were
harassed
by
mountain
view,
police.
F
Think
that
member
brodowski's
on
to
something
and
so
the
other
place
I
would
suggest
to
kind
of
run.
Some
of
these
findings
through
and
get
additional
feedback
is
through
the
latino
community
advisory
council
for
the
mvpd
of
which
I'm
a
member.
That's
another
story,
but
we
we
do
have.
We
have
had
successfully
meetings
with
the
police
at
rangsdurf
park.
You
have
food,
we
split
up
into
groups,
there's
a
spanish-speaking
police
officer
at
each
table
and
we
talk
and
it's
a
really
kind
of
low
intensity
way
to
get
feedback.
G
Hi,
all
I
am
have
been
a
mountain
view
resident
since
2015,
regularly
involved
with
city
council,
since
maybe
around
17
or
18,
and
have
been
actively
involved
in
public
safety
issues
since
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
and
I'm
sure
you
all
know
me
as
someone
who
who's
been
engaged
with
this
board.
I've
been
at
many
in
meetings
and
heard
my
neighbors
from
mountain
view.
G
Speaking
up,
so
it
seems
a
little
strange
to
hear
a
lot
of
the
people
dismissed
as
people
who
aren't
from
mountain
view,
I'll
just
I'll
just
mention
that
I'd
also
like
to
say
I
remember
from
being
part
of
mvpdx.
How
strongly
was
emphasized,
how
dangerous
traffic
enforcement
could
be?
How
when
you're
going
up,
you
don't
know
who's
going
in
the
car,
and
you
need
to
be
care,
careful
and
be
prepared
and
ready,
and
maybe
it's
the
last
interaction
you'll
have
and
that
it
is
a
very
dangerous
thing
that
was
really
emphasized
during
mvpdx.
G
I
don't
understand
why
we
need
to
have
police
with
sworn
officers
with
weapons,
doing
traffic
enforcement.
I,
as
a
city
resident
of
mountain
view,
who
is
actively
engaged
on
this
issue.
One
thing
that
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
some
looking
into,
and
this
subcommittee
seems
like
a
great
place
to
do
so,
would
be
de-policing
traffic
enforcement.
G
I
know
the
city
of
berkeley
has
worked
towards
that,
so
I'd
like
to
at
least
sort
of
understand
what
the
landscape
looks
like
understand
that,
just
as
a
topic
as
a
concerned
resident
of
the
city
who
has
strong
interest
in
these
issues,
so
deep
leasing,
traffic
enforcement,
something
that
I'd
like
to
see
looked
into.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
chair,
frank.
Thank
you,
captain
canfield
for
your
presentation.
First,
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
for
the
record
that
our
suggestion
in
the
previous
item
about
the
mental
health
subcommittee
being
reported
back
directly
by
psat
members
applies
to
this
subcommittee
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
Secondly,
I
I
want
to
agree
with
tim
and
challenge
the
notion
that
criticism
came
from
non-mountain
view
residents.
E
I
think
that
I
heard
from
a
lot
of
mountain
view,
neighbors
in
and
since
june
of
2020,
and
I
think
it's
really
dangerous
to
dismiss
this
as
not
our
problem.
I
think
it's
important
to
take
a
local
look
at
what
mvpd
is
doing
and
what
san
jose
pd
is
doing.
And
what
el
you
know
los
altos
pd
is
doing,
and
you
know
take
that
lens
of
analysis
sure.
E
But
I
see
a
general
pattern
in
local
government
where
everyone
will
acknowledge
there's
a
problem
across
the
state
or
across
the
country,
but
every
local
municipality
says
it
doesn't
happen
within
our
borders
and
when
every
single
city
says
it's
everywhere,
but
it's
not
in
our
city.
Nothing
gets
done.
E
So
I
just
want
to
reject
that
premise,
and
I
really
hope
that
you
will
continue
a
high
level
of
scrutiny
and
take
this
seriously,
because
I've
seen
that
from
captain
canfield
in
the
past
of
acknowledging
we
want
to
be
the
best,
and
if
this
problem
exists,
we
want
to
eradicate
any
problems
that
we
have,
and
I
think
that
starts
with
acknowledging
our
own
weaknesses
and
looking
for
them
actively,
rather
than
assuming.
We
don't
have
any.
So
thanks
for
that.
L
I
saw
the
thing:
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
my
bad?
Oh,
no
worries.
Thank
you
yeah.
I
just
wanna.
I,
the
idea
that
non-residents
are
calling
is
another
thing
I
wanted
to
kind
of
plus
one
as
a
as
a
weird
claim.
I
think,
over
the
last
two
years
you
know
we
we
did
have
folks
from
los
altos
call
in
they.
I
think
we're
providing
a
supportive
example
from
a
related
community.
In
many
other
cases.
L
I
also
don't
think
it's
unreasonable
for
people
outside
the
community
to
have
things
to
say
about
the
envy
police
department.
You
know
we
don't
have
closed
borders
in
the
community,
so
that
might
you
know
they
might
have
interactions
the
the
rv
complaints.
One
was
odd.
I
mean
we
do
have
this
ban
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
did
exit
the
community.
So
I
guess
I
would
not
expect
to
hear
from
them.
L
I
you
know
someone
who
knows
more
about
that
housing
situation
might
correct
me
on
that
and
and
yeah
we
did
hear
from
mountain
view.
Residents
and
quite
a
few.
I
do
agree
with
remember
radovsky's,
like
general
idea,
that
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
yeah
be
very
proactive
with
the
community
and
seek
out
you
know
in
particular
groups
that
that
we
think
we
aren't
hearing
from.
I
just
think
it's
also
important
to
acknowledge
who
we
have
been
hearing
from
and
be
accurate.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
dave.
I
believe
that
concludes
all
of
our
community
questions.
Actually,
no
I'll
have
one
more
from
alex.
H
Yes,
I
want
to
correct
what
I
said
I
it's
late
for
me,
so
I'm
not
thinking
on
all
cylinders.
H
My
remark
about
it
was
los
altos
residence
was
when
we
were
talking
about
this
school
resource
officers
and
that
night
there
were
about
eight
or
ten
people
who
called
in
or
maybe
12,
and
I
made
a
list
of
all
of
them
and
the
only
ones
who
were
associated
with
schools
in
any
way
were
los
altos
residents,
and
that
was
that
was
what
I
was
referring
to
you're
right,
that
there
are
plenty
of
mountain
view.
Residents
who've
made
complaints
in
the
past.
H
Oh-
and
I
have
one
more
one
more
observation:
do
we
do
most
of
us
know
who
lodoris
hazard
is
somebody
give
me
her
final
last
name,
the
county
court
judge
cordell.
Thank
you.
She
wrote
a
very
good
book
called
her
honor
about
being
a
judge
in
santa
clara
county
and
especially
being
the
first
black
female
judge
in
santa
clara
county,
and
she
makes
a
number
of.
H
H
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
tonight,
but
I
I'm
throwing
it
out
now
that
maybe
we
should
be
looking
into
what
how
how
can
we
relieve
our
our
police
department,
or
maybe
there
isn't
a
good
way
to
relieve
it,
but
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
manage
traffic
stops
without
using
police
so
I'll
leave
it?
There.
F
I
for
the
person
who
thought
rv
residents
are
moving
out
of
the
city
as
of
the
beginning
of
this
year,
mountain
view,
the
city
of
mountain
view,
counted
135,
rvs
and
63
other
inhabited
vehicles
on
city
streets,
so
the
number
isn't
really
reducing
by
much.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
fact
out.
There.
K
Okay-
well,
that's
the
final
slide,
so
forgive
me
okay,
so
this
is
quarter
one
of
our
complaint
data
for
the
year.
As
a
reminder,
we've
provided
two
previous
complaints
updates
for
q3
and
q4
of
last
year.
K
This
data
is
part
of
our
work
plan,
so
we
will
continue
to
provide
it
quarterly,
and
I
think
one
of
the
benefits
of
that
that
continuous
presentation
as
it
does
allow
for
some
comparison
over
time
as
a
review,
there
will
be
a
fair
amount
of
review
if
you
guys
remember
the
previous
presentations
just
because
I
want
to
go
over
the
process
and
what
the
data
sets
mean,
but
this
data
is
provided
by
sergeant
matt
atkins
of
our
professional
standards
unit,
which
is
our
it's
both
our
ia
unit,
as
well
as
our
our
unit
that
tracks
accolades
and
accommodations
of
our
officers.
K
The
matters
at
hand
are
potentially
they
really
are
all
personnel
matters,
so
that
does
require
us
to
be
sensitive
about
them
and
to
anonymize
them
where
appropriate
and
required.
So
with
that
that
out
of
the
way,
I
just
want
to
talk
real
quickly
about
the
data
sets
and
let
me
move
my
screen.
So
I
can
see
you
guys
if
you
have
any
questions,
but
in
these
data
sets.
I
know
I've
spoken
about
them
in
the
past,
so
I'll
try
to
go
fairly
quickly
over
them.
K
But
if
you
have
any
questions
by
all
means
either
interrupt
me
or
we
can
circle
back
to
them.
But
as
a
reminder,
we
track
not
only
internal
affairs
investigations
but
also
miscellaneous
incidents
that
we
feel
are
relevant
and
need
to
be
tracked
for
the
future.
So
we
don't
only
have
ia
numbers,
but
we
also
have
what
we
call
mi
numbers.
K
H
K
Flag
requirement
would
require
our
officers
to
report
inappropriate
behavior.
However,
I
think
when
we
see
most
of
our
internally
generated
complaints,
they're,
probably
from
review
of
officer
one
camera
or
looking
at
a
report
or
officer,
one
camera
not
being
turned
on
and
that
being
identified
by
a
sergeant.
So
that
would
also
be
something
that's
internal.
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
rose
to
the
level
of
an
officer
stepping
forward
and
reporting
significant
concerns.
That
type
of
thing.
K
The
employees
classification
we're
separating
so
you
know
if
we're
speaking
about
our
sworn
officers
or
our
professional
staff.
Essentially
our
sworn
officers
are
armed
and
our
professional
staff
are
not.
It
could
be
a
dispatcher,
a
community
service
officer
or
someone
in
a
records
counter
would
be
the
most
likely
people
that
would
have
a
community
facing
connection
since
the
nature
of
the
complaints.
We
have
broken
this
down
to
the
best
sections
that
we
can
find
to
be
kind
of
the
most
comprehensive,
but
not
too
in
the
weeds.
K
So
we
have
vehicle
operations,
law
violations,
general
policy
violations,
rude
and
discourteous,
discourteous,
behavior,
excessive
or
unreasonable
force.
That
was
an
addition
from
from
senate
bill
16,
as
we
added
in
unreasonable
racial
bias
and
discrimination,
and
then,
if
there's
something
that
just
doesn't
quite
fit
often
it
may
be
an
mi.
We
can
classify
that
as
an
other.
K
Obviously,
police
reports:
you
know
people
may
be
concerned
about
filing
a
complaint
and
a
fear
of
some
kind
of
reprisal
and
they
may
wish
to
be
anonymous.
So
we
just
denote
for
you
to
see
if
the
reporting
parties
are
requesting
to
be
anonymous
or
not,
it
seems
like
for
the
most
part.
They
have
not
requested
that
as
we've
gone
through
these
over
the
past,
but
it's
we'll
continue
to
provide
that
unless
there's
some
requests
for
us
to
adjust
it,
and
then
next
is
the
formal
complaint
requested
and
that's
kind
of
similar.
K
You'll
note:
there
are
kind
of
four
main
dispositions
unfounded,
not
sustained,
not
sustained
exonerated
sustained,
and
we
have
pending
on
here,
because
internal
affairs
investigations
stretch
out
longer
than
quarters
and
they
certainly
much
like
our
city.
They
don't
just
you
know
our
residents
around
our
city.
They
don't
stop.
Just
at
the
border,
so
something
may
carry
over
from
q4
into
q1,
etc.
In
general,
an
ia,
an
internal
affairs
investigation,
has
to
be
concluded
within
a
year.
K
It
is
no
longer
in
our
policy
to
allow
for
a
complaint
to
not
have
a
finding
in
the
past.
If
somebody
was,
we
were
unable
to
contact
a
complainant
we
might
have
to
make.
You
know
the
decision
that
we
didn't
have
enough
information
to
come
to
a
decision,
so
we
would
call
it
a
no
finding.
K
However,
the
state
as
a
whole
is
recommended
or
has
removed
for
major
investigations
that
no
finding
clause
because
they
were
concerned
about
officers
moving
from
departments
without
sustained
ias
is
my
understanding,
but
they
would
have
a
no
finding
ia,
so
that
is
no
longer
an
option
for
our
dispositions
and
in
response
to
a
previous
request
from
the
psab
we've
added
in
whether
these
complaints
are
alleged,
complaints
are
major
and
minor,
and
with
that
I'll
move
to
q1
of
2022.,
so
you'll
see
there
are
two
complaints.
One
is
an
ia
and
one
is
a
miscellaneous
incident.
K
The
ia
is
external
up
for
a
sworn
officer
regarding
a
policy
violation.
It
is
not
anonymous,
it
was
a
formal
complaint
and
it
is
pending
as
a
major
complaint-
and
I
probably
should
have
touched
on
this
a
moment
ago,
but
for
the
level
of
complaint
you
can
think
of
a
major
complaint
is,
if
it's
sustained
it
will.
It
could
result
in
something
being
taken
away
from
the
officer
whether
it's
a
specialty
position
time
without
pay,
something
along
those
lines.
K
If
it's
a
minor
generally,
it's
documented
in
their
ia
file
as
well
as
their
evaluation,
but
it
doesn't
come
with
in
and
of
itself
a
removal
of
pay
or
position
or
rank.
K
So
with
that
sorry,
I
should
have
mentioned
that
on
the
last
slide,
but
with
the
just
to
review
the
mi
incident
that
we
have
for
this
quarter.
It
was
external
from
outside
the
organization
regarding
sworn
personnel
and
it
was
a
law,
allegation
or
nature.
It
was
not
anonymous,
it
was
a
formal
complaint
and
it
was
not
sustained
and
it
was
at
the
level
of
minor
and
just
for
contrast.
K
F
Thanks
captain
mike,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is
what
exactly
is
the
difference
between
law
and
policy
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
the
complaint.
K
Well,
policy
could
be,
although
it
is
in
our
policy,
if
you
violate
a
law,
that
is
against
our
policy,
but
in
general
let's
say
I.
I
would
never
do
this,
but
let's
say
I
was
driving
down
the
street
and
I
threw
a
coffee
cup
out
my
window.
That's
a
law
violation
of
littering,
so
that
could
be,
and
somebody
complained
about
me.
Then
we
would
take
a
law
violation
for
a
littering
section.
If
that
makes
sense.
K
Let's
say
I
didn't
activate
my
officer
worn
camera.
Now
I
will
say
that
essentially,
almost
every
internal
affairs
investigation
has
paul.
They
all
have
to
fall
within
policy,
but
as
we
parcel
out
kind
of
what
fits
best
where
and
what
makes
most
sense
as
you
look
at
it,
there
are
certain
things
that
are
really
exclusive
to
policy
like
not
activating
one's
camera.
Okay,
that
type
of
thing
got
it
being
late.
You
may
end
up
with
an
internal
affairs
investigation
for
being
late
to
work
or
not
prepared,
or
you
might
lose
city
equipment.
F
Got
it
what's
your
take
on
why
the
complaints
reduced
rather
dramatically
between
q4
and
q1,
because
they
know
psap's
watching.
K
I
I
don't
think,
there's
an
easy
way
to
predict.
You
know
behavior
or
to
understand.
I
do
know
in
my
brief,
but
impressive
overlaps
with
alex
stevenson
that
it's
hard
to
make
assessments
on
data
and
short-term
changes.
K
K
That
would
lead
the
administration
to
think
that
something
you
know
the
chief's
office
to
think
that
something
different
was
happening
q4
to
q1
internally,
you
know
whether
there's
so
it's
really
hard
to
say.
F
Okay
and
I'm
trying
to
think
back
last
question
when
in
the
fall
will
we
be
seeing
if
there
are
sro
complaints,
will
it
be
in
this
format?
I
was
trying
to
remember
what
we
decided
so.
K
A
finalized
process
to
present,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
and
to
denote
the
difference
between
a
student
feeling
comfortable
going
forward
to
school
administration
and
saying
this
officer
makes
me
feel
uncomfortable
for
x,
y
and
z
and
internal
affairs
complaint.
So
those
those
may
overlap,
but
they
may
very
well
be
separate
things
that
need
to
be
measured
in
separate
ways.
So
we
just
want
to
be
as
professional
and
kind
of
thoughtful
about
how
to
approach
that
as
possible.
K
G
Well,
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
about.
I
actually.
I
think
I
brought
this
up
in
public
comment
at
the
last
meeting,
but
it
feels
relevant
to
some
of
the
conversation
that
was
being
had
earlier
about
rv
residents
still
in
the
city
in
the
in
the
week
of
march,
when
psab
had
the
meeting
that
same
week.
G
On
tuesday
there
was
a
city
council
meeting
and
at
that
meeting
someone
who
lives
in
mountain
view
in
an
rv
spoke
up
to
city
council
and
mentioned
that
they
had
been
approached
several
times
by
the
police
and
felt
as
if
they
had
been
being
harassed.
G
C
Thank
you,
tim
and
next
is
dave.
I
remember
you
want
to
put
your
hand
down.
L
Hey
there
yeah,
so
yeah
dave
luker.
This
is
a
mvc
pro
request,
thanks
again
captain
for
presenting-
and
I
guess
sergeant
action
if
you're
watching
this
later.
Thanks
for
compiling,
we
do
want
to
ask
if
this
data
could
be
provided
in
like
excel
format
or
csv
in
the
future,
rather
than
only
pdfs
we're
thinking
that
it
would
allow,
for.
You
know,
increased
transparency,
the
ability
for
interested
psab
members
and
members
of
the
public
to
engage
with
it
a
little
more
readily
kind
of
removes
the
step.
L
Less
copy-paste
run
additional
analysis.
It's
what
the
bicycle
pedestrian
advisory
committee
does
seems
to
be
very
useful
for
them.
So
just
I
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
out
in
the
atmosphere
and
make
that
request
and
also
thank
you
vita
for
the
rv
resident
correction
and
data
there.
On
my
previous
comment,.
C
F
One
thing
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
captain
mike
that
doing
this
work
with
matt
atkins
pulling
this
together
is
not
unreasonable
burden.
It's
not
a
time
scene
or
anything
like
that.
It
seems
like
it's
relatively
straightforward
to
pull
together
yeah.
K
F
C
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
to
5.4,
which
is
development
of
peace
out
fiscal
year,
2022
23
work
plan
in
this
item
will
be
facilitated,
facilitated
by
assisted
city
manager,
audrey
ramber.
B
B
B
Tonight
is
the
first
step
and
it
will
include
a
brief
review
of
the
status
of
the
items
in
your
current
work
plan
and
then
the
opportunity
for
the
board
members
to
suggest
possible
new
items
and,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
there
is
direction
in
general
from
the
council
for
staff
and
advisory
boards
to
work
within
the
capacity
of
the
city
staff
organization
and
also
there
are
capacity
constraints
for
any
given
advisory
board
to
create
subcommittees
and
have
meetings
and
and
generate
deliverables.
B
And
so
that's
just
a
general
set
of
parameters
that
I'm
asking
the
app
to
keep
in
mind.
As
you
put
forward
ideas.
B
The
idea
is
that
that
each
of
you
has
the
opportunity
to
put
forward
tonight
we're
asking
that
you
put
up
to
two
ideas
per
person
and
they
don't
need
to
be
evaluated
this
evening.
This
is
just
a
matter
an
opportunity
to
hear.
B
What's
on
your
mind,
what
you
would
like
to
have
considered
and
then
that
will
give
staff
the
opportunity
between
now
and
your
june
meeting,
to
assess
what
might
be
the
implications
of
those
items
in
terms
of
their
fit
with
the
mission
of
the
psab,
their
fit
with
the
expertise
and
capacity
of
both
staff
and
the
psab
members
and
whether
they
are
either.
You
know
consistent
with
city
policy
or
existing
city,
strategic
priorities
and
other
factors
like
that
and
so
that
that's
the
the
general
overview
process.
B
Turning
our
attention
to
the
fiscal
year,
21
22
work
plan,
there
were
five
items
adopted
by
your
your
board
back
in
august
and
then
presented
to
the
council.
Council
has
a
couple
of
different
times
commented
on
things
that
they
want
psab
input
into
and
and
referred
to.
Psab.
Excuse
me.
B
In
addition,
staff
has
referred
things
to
psap,
including
the
your
consideration
in
march
of
the
military
equipment
policy
that
staff
developed
in
response
to
a
senate
assembly
bill
481,
and
I
neglected
to
mention
that,
as
it
wasn't,
a
work
plan
item
that
you
had,
but
it
did
did
come
into
your
purview
during
the
fiscal
year
and
when
council
heard
the
item
a
month
after
psab
heard
it,
they
asked
that
the
annual
requirement
under
ab481
for
review
of
a
report
on
military
equipment
that
that
be
also
brought
to
the
psap.
B
So,
although
not
in
your
memo,
that
is
something
that
has
been
referred
by,
council
and
and
staff,
would
suggest
as
an
ongoing
item
and
that
would
be
included
in
the
2223
piece
that
work
plan.
The
other
two
items
that
can
be
considered
ongoing
are
what
captain
canfield
just
presented
is
the
complaint
data
which
is
coming
to
you
quarterly
and
then
there's
the
budget
item
which
every
year
there's
a
budget
so
every
year
that
can
be
presented
to
the
psab,
the
other
items
that
are
more
discreet
in
time.
B
With
regard
to
the
deliverable
or
the
focus
that
includes
the
sro
item,
which
is
complete,
save
for
the
additional
action
item.
That
council
referred
to
the
psab,
which
is
to
receive
a
presentation
review
and
provide
comment
on
the
sro
procedure
manual.
B
B
So
those
are
suggested
as
carry
forward
items
so
with
that
what
we
the
psab
did
last
year
and
what
other
commissions
have
used
as
a
process
that
allows
each
of
you
to
put
forward
one
or
two
ideas
which
for
the
people
present
tonight,
would
get
us
up
to
potentially
ten
a
work
plan
of
10.
In
addition
to
the
carry
forward
and
ongoing
items
would
not
be
feasible.
B
So
I'm
I,
we
have
a
way
to
collect
those
things
on
a
powerpoint
slide
that
I
will
ask
mike
to
to
have
up
and
and
kind
of
type
real
time
as
each
of
you
go
around
and
and
share
your
ideas,
but
I'd
like
to
pause
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
about
the
current
work
plan
or
the
process
that
I've
just
explained.
B
And
then
I
think
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
well,
you
may
ask
questions
now
about
process
or
the
current
work
plan
that
you
take
a
public
comment
prior
to
you
putting
forward
your
your
individual
ideas
is
my
my
suggested
process
so
that
you
have
the
benefit
of
hearing
from
the
community
members
in
attendance
if
they
wish
to
give
public
comment.
C
F
Assistant
city
manager,
ramberg,
could
you
advise
a
little
more
detail
on
the
ab41?
What
exactly
is
the
council's
request
to
psab
on
that.
B
So
the
the
assembly-
thank
you,
member
air.
The
the
assembly
bill
requires
that
each
year,
the
city
preparer
report
regarding
its
use
of
and
any
purchases
related
to
military
equipment
and
that
that
be
reviewed
by
the
council
each
year
and
prior
to
it
being
reviewed
by
the
council.
It
is
to
be
reviewed
in
a
community
forum
or
meeting,
and
the
council
wishes
that
wishes
for
the
psab
to
serve
that
purpose.
Given
the
role
of
this
advisory
body,
so
staff
would
prepare
the
report
and
present
it
to
the
psab.
B
F
So
psab,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
if
psab
would
have
a
say
on
our
opinion,
if
there
was
a
planned
purchase
of
something
that
would
fall
under
the
heading
of
militarized
or
military
type
equipment.
Is
that
correct.
B
I
need
to
look
back
at
what
the
requirements
for
the
report
are.
I
believe
the
bill
is
fairly
prescriptive
about
what
type
of
information
needs
to
be
in
there,
but
the
council's
direction
was
not
have
psalm
approve
military
equipment.
F
B
There's
a
requirement
that
the
city
each
year
report
on
its
use
of
military
equipment,
it's
which
military
it
you
know
if
we
were
to
decommission
any
or
if
any,
were
to
be
used
and
again,
that's
that's
something
that
I'd
be
happy
to
bring
back
at
the
next
meeting.
What
the
bill
specifically
says
needs
to
be
the
content
of
that
report,
and
the
content
of
that
report
would
be
then
presented
to
the
psab
for
you
to
question
and
comment
on
and
receive
public
okay.
F
B
B
Okay,
I'm
sorry
I
missed.
I
missed
that
as
a
as
part
of
your
question,
but
yes,
those
those
would
be
communicated
forward
to
the
council
community
comments,
as
well
as
p
sub
comments
cooper.
Thank
you.
C
And
I
don't
know
if
it
needs
to
be
noted,
but
remember,
tang
joined
us
at,
I
think
8
16.
hi.
We
are
in
item
5.4,
which
is
development
of
our
work
plan
for
the
next
year,
and
each
of
us
are
able
to
come
up
with
up
to
two
ideas
for
next
year's
work
plan,
and
so
we
have
just
begun
that
process
of
having
that
discussion.
So
are
there
any
other
board
members
who
have
questions
about
the
process?
This
is
not
submitting
your
actual
ideas.
G
Hi,
I
would
just
like
to
give
a
few
suggestions
of
things
that
I
would
love
to
see.
We
already
talked
about
this
today,
the
possibility
of
de-policing
traffic
enforcement,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
would
fit
under
the
existing
subcommittee's
work
or
if
that
deserves
to
be
its
own
item
on
the
the
work
plan
and
another
piece,
I
really
appreciated
the
budget
presentation
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
learn
as
time
goes
on.
G
One
thing
that
is
still
a
little
confusing
to
me
was
how
insurance
within
the
city
sort
of
worked
and
whether
that
fell
in
for
the
police
department's
budget
or
was
separated
out,
I'm
still
a
little
confused
by
that
specif.
I
know
we
can't
speak
on
specific
cases
such
as
the
currently
pending
lawsuit
about
the
person
who
was
pulled
from
their
car
in
june
of
2020.
I
believe
it
was-
and
I
know,
like
the
palo
alto
police
with
that-
had
to
pay
the
settlement
for
bringing
in
dog
into
mountain
view.
G
G
Do
individual
officers
have
some
sort
of
insurance
kind
of
like
medical
malpractice
insurance,
I'm
curious
as
to
what
that
looks
like,
and
I
think
it's
something
that
has
been
brought
up
by
some
board
members
before
with
regards
to
specific
incidents,
and
it's
been
made
very
clear
that
we
can't
talk
about
them,
especially
while
they're
ongoing,
which
makes
good
sense,
but
I
would
like
to
understand
sort
of
what
that
what
the
insurance
process
it
looks
like
how
much
it
costs
and
like
what
what
goes
on
if
there
is
an
issue.
C
E
Thank
you,
chair,
hi,
everyone,
dana
petey,
on
behalf
of
mv
super
again.
We
have
a
few
thoughts
to
share
about
this
piece,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
each
one
of
them
brief.
We've
got
about
four
comments
to
make
the
first
one
is
that
we
would
like
to
see
all
of
the
items
include
more
active
language
around
providing
feedback
and
making
recommendations
rather
than
passively
receiving
information.
E
I
heard
assistant
city
manager
ramberg's
comment
a
moment
ago
that
the
law
specifically
requires
for
the
presentation
and
the
comment
period,
but
on
that
item
specifically
city
council
did
make
a
comment
that
they
were
hoping
for
more
active
input
from
psab.
They
wanted
psabs
inputs
and
thoughts
and
comments
and
interpretations,
rather
than
just
having
passively
received
the
information.
E
There's
a
lot
of
really
important
information
that
comes
up
in
these
psap
meetings
between
the
budget
reports.
The
military
equipment
reports
lots
of
really
important
pieces,
and
I
think
there
should
be
an
expectation,
at
least
most
of
the
time
that
psab
is
providing
feedback
and
making
recommendations.
E
That's
specifically
why
the
psab
was
formed
by
the
city
council,
and
that
is
what
council
clearly
wants
from
them.
As
recently
as
a
meeting
just
either
not
this
most
recent
one
but
the
one
before
our
second
note
is
about
that
item
of
the
annual
budget
presentation
and
we're
curious.
Isn't
there
also
an
annual
report
that
is
distinct
from
the
budget?
And
you
know
we
see
the
annual
budget
report
is
listed
in
the
work
plan
as
an
ongoing
item,
but
no
mention
of
that
gener
general
operational
annual
review.
E
I
forget
what
it's
called
specifically,
but
I
hope
you
all
remember.
It
happened
at
the
previous
meeting
I
think
or
the
one
before,
and
we
think
it
should
be
included
in
the
same
item
to
make
sure
that
piece
doesn't
get
dropped.
Our
third
comment
is
that
we
feel
it's
extremely
clear
that
psab
needs
to
continue
its
review
of
the
sro
program,
specifically
on
the
work
plan
in
particular,
because
there
is
no
public
mou
yet
which
we
strongly
feel
should
be
up
for
review
by
the
psab
and
there's
no
ysu
handbook
yet
available.
E
E
So
mountain
view
was
not
one
of
the
five
departments
that
was
studied,
but
the
auditor
found
evidence
in
all
five
departments
that
there
were
officers
with
extremely
racist,
homophobic,
transphobic,
sexist
or
otherwise
biased
views
that
made
them
unfit
for
service.
This
is
clearly
a
really
important
issue
and
a
pervasive
issue
with
implications
that
every
community
in
california
needs
to
take
seriously.
E
So
we're
curious
what
recommendations
from
the
auditor
could
be
implemented
here.
Are
there
any
recommendations
that
are
already
implemented
here?
Are
there
any
that
we're
missing?
How
do
we
investigate
whether
this
problem
is
present
in
our
community?
What
are
the
appropriate
protocols
for
identifying
bias
and
ensuring
that
problematic?
Biases
have
no
place
in
mbpd.
Psab
should
make
space
for
these
important
questions
by
including
this
item
on
the
work
plan.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
Just
briefly
dana
mentioned
the
various
police
department
report
backs
just
for
the
record
in
case
you
don't
have
it
up
there.
On
march
24th,
you
had
new
business
mountain
view,
police
department,
budget
on
april
28th,
it
was
police
department,
2021
annual
report
and
on
may
26,
which
is
tonight,
is
the
complaint
at
a
quarterly
report,
which
of
course
comes
back
quarterly.
Just
so
you
know
thanks.
C
I
believe
that
concludes
I'll
public
comments,
very
good,
okay,
so.
C
Just
remember
you
are
you
suggesting
that
we
now
move
to
everybody
coming
up
with
their
or
sharing
their
ideas
for
the
work
plan.
B
Yes,
thank
you
chair
frank,
so
captain
canfield,
if
you
could
share
your
screen
okay,
so
this
is
not
in
the
order
with
which
you
need
to
each
participate
but
oops.
I
don't
know
what
I'm
I
don't
know.
What
we've
got
there
mike
we're
just
seeing
your
slideshow
button.
B
There
you
go
so
this
is
not
so
much
to
this
is
really
just
to
capture
thoughts
so
that
we
don't
lose
anything
and
you
can
go
in
any
order.
That
you'd,
like
and
chair
frank,
if
you'd
like
to
recognize
people
as
they
put
up
their
hand.
H
Thank
you,
cleve,
I'm
I'm
going
to
propose
one
item
and
that
is
to
look
into
information
on
how
you
could
do
traffic
stops
without
police,
and
I
would
say
we
would
ask
two
questions.
First
of
all,
why
would
you
do
it
and
why
bother
or-
and
the
second
would
be,
how
would
you
do
it
and
I'm
proposing
that
somehow
we
we
get
some
research
and
I'm
sure
that
there's
been
plenty
of
studies
done
on
on
this
across
the
country
and
in
other
countries.
C
Thank
you,
member
ir.
F
F
I
get
nervous
when
I
hear
that
we're
going
to
get
a
presentation
on
it.
I
actually
think
the
manual
should
be
made
available
in
all
its
glory
and
it
should
be
made
available
with
enough
time
before
the
start
of
the
school
year.
In
the
fall
that
week,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
review
it
ourselves
and
also,
if
we
choose
to
get
some
of
our
community
input
on
it
to
kind
of
solidify
our
positions
on
it.
F
I
think
that's
important,
otherwise
we're
going
to
be
here
in
a
year
talking
about
updating
it,
so
we
might
be
anyway,
but
I
want
to
try
to
get
it
as
close
to
you
know
what
we're
looking
for
out
of
out
of
the
shoot.
So
that's
one
thing
I
don't
it
might
be
a
finessing
of
the
work
plan,
but
I
don't
want
a
presentation
on
the
manual.
F
I
want
to
read
the
darn
thing
and
I
want
enough
time
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
also
solicit
input
from
stakeholders
that
I
have
so
that's
one
thing.
The
second
thing
is
I'm
aware
of
the
new
york
times
article
that
miss
pd
referenced.
In
fact,
I
think
captain
mike
sent
it
all
to
you
from
me.
F
It
was
interesting
right,
so
the
auditor
has
a
lot
of
recommendations
for
police
departments.
I
view
mountain
view
as
as
an
innovative
department
and
I'm
curious
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
ahead
of
being
told.
We
need
to
do
it
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
because
we
pride
ourselves
on
being
ahead
of
the
game,
it
might
not
be
looking
at
the
auditor's
report.
It
might
be
looking
at
ashkalra's
assembly
bill
and
looking
at
that
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
already.
F
C
So
member
tang.
A
I'm
interested
in
possibly
exploring
how
we
could
address
the
increase
in
substance
abuse.
Both
I
mean,
I
guess
just
in
the
general
community
and
also
in
schools.
D
I
just
have
on
one
topic:
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
maybe
captain
canfield
can
say
some
comments
if
it's
relevant.
I
know
a
lot
of
departments
are
having
issues
with
police,
recruitment
and
retention,
and
there's
been
some
statistics
that
there's
been
over
18
increase
in
resignations,
45
increase
in
retirements
and
I'm
just
curious
yeah
how,
where
mountain
view
is
as
far
as
their
staffing
are
they
do
they
have
enough
people?
How
do
they
seek
new
recruits?
D
K
D
If
you
say
it's
not
relevant,
we
I
could
take
it
off.
I
just
know
a
lot
of
departments
are
having
that
issue.
I'm
curious
does
mountain
view.
K
K
It's
one
of
those
kind
of
complicated
things
of
you
have
you
when
you
offer
someone
a
job
that
job
is
then
taken
until
that
person
is
available
on
the
street
they
may
or
may
not
end
up
taking
the
job
may
not
make
it
to
the
academy
that
type
of
thing
so
there's
some
nuance
and
complexity
to
it.
That
could
be
highlighted
in
greater
detail
in
a
staff
report.
K
Another
aspect,
that's
really
significant-
is
that
hiring
was
done
in
large
numbers
in
you
know
a
time
that
kind
of
correlates
to
people's
retirement
age
now
so
people
kind
of
from
my
generation
tended
to
be
hired
in
groups
of
five
and
six
and
now
are
tending
to
retire
in
groups
of
five
or
six.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
factors
at
play,
but
certainly
anybody
who
tells
you
that
recruitment
and
retention
is
not
an
issue
in
policing
probably
does
not
work
in
police.
C
I
Thanks
chair,
I
share
the
same
proposed
work
plan
items
as
member
ier.
I
C
C
I
don't
see
anyone
else
ready
for
the
moment.
For
me,
I
will
say
I'm
very
interested
in
the
mobile
dwellers
how
we
will
be
working
with
them
going
forward,
how
they
receive
calls
of
service
in
our
city
and
and
and
what
enforcement
will
look
like
for
folks
who
are
you
know
in
violation,
and
essentially
I
guess
they'll
want
to
know
what
services
may
have
available
for
them
when
they
are
in
violation
of
whatever
the
city's
policies,
design.
B
If,
if
I
may
share
frank,
now
would
be
a
time
that,
if
anyone
needed
to
ask
a
ques
clarifying
question
of
a
colleague
around
what
they
meant
by
what
they
put
forward.
C
Very
good
before
I
do
that
I
remember
tank.
We
may
have
one
more.
I
H
G
F
Sorry
I
just
started
talking
pardon
me,
I'd
like
to
ask
member
wang
a
little
if,
if
she
could
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
her
thoughts
and
the
connection
with
the
police,
because
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
context
for
psab.
A
A
I
guess,
like
substance,
abuse
and
use
of
drugs
in
our
community,
and
I
think
from
the
data
that
we
receive
today
as
well,
referencing
overdoses
and
then
just
kind
of
other
information
that
that
we've
learned
that
it's
kind
of
becoming
even
bigger
of
a
problem.
So
I'm
wondering
how
we
can
combat
that
in
our
community.
A
F
Thank
you.
I
have
one
more
question.
Member
brodowski.
I
really
like
your
point
and
I'm
concerned
that
it
might
be
so
broad
that
that
somehow
it
finds
a
way
not
to
get
on
the
work
plan.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there
would
be
a
way
to
say
maybe
there
could
be
a
pilot
or
something
or
just
scope
it
such
that
it
might
fit
on
the
work
plan.
It's
just
the
thought
for
for
the
next
time
we
talk
about
it.
H
H
F
I
know
I'm
with
you
sorry.
I
think
I
think
maybe
I
that
you
misunderstood
me.
I'm
concerned
that
it's
like
if
it's
like,
how
does
mountain
view
do
it,
it
might
get
misinterpreted.
I
that,
because
clearly
I
just
misinterpreted
it
so.
H
We
need
to
know
if
we
were
to
even
try
to
eliminate
cops
on
traffic
stops.
Why
and
and
if,
if
the
answer
is
well
yeah,
it's
a
good
idea,
then
how
are
we
gonna?
Do
it?
Okay
and
that's
the
research
we
should
do.
F
So
it's
it's
it's
more
of
a
research
and
seeing
what
other
cities
have
done
and
sort
of
developing
ideas
on
how
it
could
be
done.
Okay,
that's
my
proposal
and
it
says
why
and
how
there
I
kind
of
took
it.
I
understood
it
in
a
different
light.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
okay.
C
If
I
may
remember
ir,
for
instance,
one
of
the
ways
that
this
works
is
this,
this
is
from
a
story
that
I
heard
from
another
municipality.
Doing
it
this
way.
Rather
than
have
police
officers
stop
people,
they
have
cars,
they
have
cameras
on
cars
all
around
cars
and
those
cameras
will
neces
will
occasionally,
you
know,
capture
traffic
violations
and
they
may
just
send
something
out
to
a
motorist.
Saying
hey.
This
happened
on
this
day.
F
There's
a
I'll
send
out
the
berkeley
thing
if
I
haven't,
I
think
I
sent
it
to
mvpdx
I'll,
send
it
out
here
I'll,
send
it
to
mike
to
send
out,
but
there's
a
in
depth
about
how
berkeley
does
this,
which
I
think
is
interesting
to
read,
and
maybe
chair
frank,
that's
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
model
that
you're
referring
to
or
the
municipality
but
yeah,
I
thought
it
was
super
interesting.
I
just
didn't
want
it
to
be
so
broad
that
it
would
be
like.
Oh,
it
doesn't
fit
on
the
work
plan.
F
I
think
some
some
work
should
be
done
on
it.
It's
it's
unfortunate
that
I
can't
put
down
three
things,
because
I
would
include
that
as
well.
D
What
is
my
I
on
mute,
nope,
you're,
good,
I
I
I
don't
want
to
be
like
a
debbie
downer,
but
my
experience,
my
training
anyways
with
regards
to
traffic
stop
is
they're
one
of
the
most
dangerous
things
that
a
police
officer
does,
but
I
think
it's
still
interesting
and
researching
the
topic,
but
it
but
but
yeah,
that's
that's
that's
just
my
experience
on
it.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
don't
want
to
continue
commenting.
D
D
B
G
B
Seeing
other
questions
share
frank,
I
think
this
is
a
great
list
and
certainly
we'll
give
you
plenty
to
chew
on
at
your
next
meeting
and
we
can.
C
That's
okay,
piggybacking.
Vice
chair
wang's
comment
about
addressing
the
increase
in
substance
abuse.
She
had
also
mentioned
in
a
previous
meeting
that
she
endured
a
presentation
from
the
district
that
was
pretty
awful
and
I
wondered
if
the
sro
team
might
be
able
to
fashion
a
more
interactive
and
more
enthusiastic
or
a
better
representation
of
of
how
this
affects
the
student
body
that
might
be
more
well
received.
So
an
idea.
A
Oh,
I
don't
say
something:
okay,
I
saw
my
school
school.
You
know
that
there
there
is
a
presentation
next
tuesday,
by
the
users
on
on
fentanyl.
So
I
think
that
was
pretty
cool
to
see
that,
but
they
are
doing
one.
I'm
just
wondering
I
guess
like
how
we
can
continue
that
and
less
so
in
a
oh.
You
can
come
on
a
tuesday
night
kind
of
way,
but
I
think
that's
definitely
a
good
start.
B
My
apologies
for
stepping
into
quickly
so
I
I
clearly
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
could
be
grouped
in
that
they
were
more
or
less
seconded
and
I
think
we
have
what
we
need
to
be
able
to
bring
back
a
memo
to
you
for
your
consideration
in
june.
B
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
no,
you
took
public
comment
prior
to
you
putting
forward
your
items,
so
the
public
comment
has
been
taken
on
this
item
very.
C
Good
all
right
and
very
good
and
okay,
if
that's
everybody,
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
six,
which
is
psap
staff,
comments,
questions
and
any
other
additional
reports
or
items.
F
I
was
curious,
I
know
the
mou
is
not
done
and
the
sro
manual
is
with
the
city
manager's
office.
I
was
wondering
if
captain
mike
could
give
us
an
update
on
on
time
frames
for
those
expected
to
be
completed
or
that
at
least
that
step
completed
yeah.
K
I
don't
have
a
time
frame
for
the
mou
coming
back
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
but
I'm
optimistic
that
it
will
be
coming
back
to
us
shortly,
but
they've
had
a
number
of
delays
for
various
reasons
that
are
pushing
us
back
just
a
little
bit,
but
still
within
our
time
frame.
The
manual
is
almost
completed
with
internal
review
before
going
to
external
stakeholders
once
it
goes
to
external
stakeholders,
which
I
expect
will
happen,
hopefully
it'll
be
prepared
and
ready
to
go
out
next
week
by
the
end
of
next
week.
K
I
Thanks
chair,
I
guess
this
is
well.
I
didn't
want
to
provide
comment
on
remember
wang's
item,
because
it
wasn't
like
a
point
of
clarification,
but
I
I
think
substance
abuse
has
been
rising.
I
mean,
along
with
other
mental
health
issues
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,.
I
In
general,
so
I,
if
anyone's
interested
on
the
topic
and
how
you
know
opioids,
have
been
spreading.
I
have
been
reading
dopesick
by
beth
macy
and
it's
also
become.
I
guess,
a
series
on
hulu
and-
and
you
know,
since
fentanyl
is
an
opioid,
it's
very
interesting-
to
see
how
it's
really
spread,
and
there
are
also
stories
and
also
suggestions
for
policy
changes
that
might
be
helpful
to
explore.
So
I
just
thought:
I'd
recommend
that,
for
everyone.