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From YouTube: 12-14-2020 - Mountain Rental Housing Committee Meeting
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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Rental Housing Committee Meeting scheduled for Monday, December 14, 2020.
A
We're
live
all
right
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order
at
7
pm.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
state
of
california
executive
order.
N2920
dated
march
17
2020,
all
members
of
the
rental
housing
committee
are
participating
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
the
meeting
live,
may
do
so
at
mountainview.legistar.com
on
youtube
at
mountainview.gov
youtube
and
on
comcast
channel
26.
A
B
A
Vice
chair
susan
allman
howdy-
and
I
am
here
the
next
item
on
the
agenda-
is
minutes.
Approval
3.1
approve
the
minutes
for
the
october
19
2020
rhc
meeting
would
any
would
any
member
of
the
public
would
ever
remember
on
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
public
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
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in
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or
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star
9
on
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will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
C
A
Seeing
no
hands
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
committee.
A
And
so
that
we
could
have
counsel
questions
and
action.
A
motion
to
approve
should
include
the
following
item
approved
minutes
for
october
19,
2020
rhc
meeting.
Do
we
have
any
comments
or
questions.
A
E
D
I
said
all
right:
okay,
thank
you,
committee
member
haynes,
lindsay
hi
committee
member
bruno
hi
vice
chair,
allman,
hi
and
chair
ramos.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
So
next,
up
on
the
on
the
agenda
is
oral
communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
committee
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
non-agenda
items?
F
Thank
you,
ramos
and
members
of
the
rental
housing
committee
tonight
we're
bringing
in
front
of
you
an
extension
of
previously
adopted
regulations
for
voluntary
agreements
to
temporarily
reduce
rent
and
the
purpose
is
to
review.
If
the
rental
housing
committee
would
like
to
consider
an
extension
of
this
temporary
regulation.
F
G
Is
there
also
an
option
to
have
this
just
be
in
place
indefinitely
until
we
decide
not
to
renew
it
so
to
speak,
so
we
could
just
hold
it
open
and
have
the
regulation
in
place
indefinitely
until
it
takes
some
kind
of
affirmative
step
to
withdraw
or
back
it
up.
H
Certainly
that
is
an
option,
but
the
regulation
is
being
adopted
specifically
because
of
the
covert
pandemic,
so
we
could
tie
it
to
when
the
pandemic
state
of
emergency
is
lifted
or
we
could
do
it
indefinitely.
The
only
issue
with
that
is,
I
think
staff
would
potentially
want
to
keep
coming
back
to
the
rhd
as
to
when
you
might
want
to
repeal
this.
F
Well,
I
think
that's
irrelevant,
because
when
you
get
a
new
tenant
right
now
you
can
set
the
rent.
So
there
are
no
limitations
on
how
you
would
set
the
rent.
G
Okay,
but
in
terms
of
the
base
year,
for
example,
if
there's
a
new
tenant
right
now
so
let's
say
it's
december
and
there's
a
new
tendency,
that's
created
between
a
landlord
and
a
tenant
in
terms
of
the
actual
base
year
to
use
going
forward
in
that
new
tenancy.
Is
that
something
that
this
voluntary
agreement
could
cover?
Would
it
not
be
covered.
H
It
wouldn't
regulate
the
rents
at
all
unless
at
some
point
after
they
originally
entered
into
the
tenancy.
The
landlord
and
the
tenant
entered
into
a
voluntary
agreement
to
reduce
the
rent
from
what
was
originally
set.
A
C
I'm
you
double
muted,
double,
muted,
all
right,
I'm
free!
This
regulation
does
not
preclude
landlords
from
banking,
their
aga
correct.
If
you
voluntarily
reduced
your
rent
at
some
point
in
the
last
nine
months
or
moving
forward.
If
you
do
and
then
you
want
to
reestablish
the
prior
rent
plus
take
your
aga,
you
could
do
that
if
you
had
not
taken
any
other
rent
increase,
correct.
C
H
You
could
raise
the
rent
back
up
to
its
original
rent
and
take
a
aga,
but
if
you
haven't
banked,
more
of
the
aga
is
worth
more
than
ten
percent
you're
still
going
to
run
into
that
ten
percent.
Where,
if.
A
All
right
next,
we
have
committee
member
grinnell.
B
Sorry,
I
may
have
been
missed
this
on
a
slide,
but
is
there
a
third
end
to
grace
period
or
the
period
of
time
where
a
landlord
would
be
able
to
re
re-raise
the
rent
back
to
back
up
to
the
original
amount?
So
let's
say
whenever
the
state
of
emergency
is
declared
over
is.
Is
there
a
certain
amount
like?
B
Do
they
just
go
into
the
usual
banking
process
so
that
I
think
for
banking?
You
can
bank
it
for
up
to
two
years.
H
D
B
Yeah,
sorry,
I
I
re-raised
there.
Thank
you,
I
guess
to
to
julian's
question,
which
is
an
interesting
one.
B
Karen
is
it
within,
would
it
be
within
our
purview
or
remit
to
if
we
wanted
to,
could
we
extend
this
to
new
tenancies
or
is
there
something
that
precludes
us
from
doing
so
in
the
csfra
and
again
that?
Well,
I
can
put
more
logic
behind
that
when
we
discuss,
but
is.
H
It
I
don't
think
it
excludes
new
tendencies,
so
it
does
not
exclude
tendencies
that
were
created
after
this
regulation
was
originally
adopted.
As
long
as
those
tenancies
started
with
one
rent
and
then
the
rent
was
decreased.
F
So
when
you're
saying
for
newton,
if
you
say
new
tenancies,
you
have
to
have
at
least
one
level
of
rent
that
you
voluntarily
go
down
from.
So
somehow
you,
landlord
and
tenant
have
to
have
agreed
to
what
the
original
lease
amount
is
right
and
if
you
then
subsequently
go
into
a
voluntary
agreement
to
make
it
lower.
That
would
still
be
possible
under
this
regulation.
B
Right
sorry,
so
I
was
actually.
I
was
interpreting
a
different
use
case
where
which
we're
in
now
right,
like
tenancy,
was,
at
a
certain
rate,
there's
been
a
vacancy.
Obviously,
the
market
rate
now
is
there's
downward
pressure
on
rents
right
now,
so
the
landlord
rents
at
a
much
lower
rate.
B
Ideally
you
know
we
come
out
of
the
pandemic
and
maybe
maybe
that
particular
unit
would
go.
The
market
rate
could
be
increased
more,
but
they're
held
to
three
percent.
That
would
be
outside
of
the
scope.
Definitely
outside
of
the
scope.
It
sounds
like
a
this
regulation,
but
that's
also,
I
guess
karen
is,
would
that
be
anything
that
we
could?
H
H
Like
the
aga,
I
mean
the
option
in
that
situation
is
an
individual
petition
for
an
upward
adjustment,
and
this
is
where
the
whole
vega
adjustment
may
come
in
as
well
so
we'll
have
to.
We
may
want
to
look
at
those
regulations
after
the
pandemic
is
over
and
think
about
whether
there
are
adjustments
that
would
be
considered
through
a
petition
process.
B
Thank
you.
I
forgot
about
vega
yeah
we're
bringing
back
a
lot
of
conversations
so.
B
Seems
like
an
interesting
fit
for
this
use
case
right.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Bringing
back
a
lot
of
happy
memories,
all
right
next
is
vice
chair
almond,.
M
So
I
I
don't
know
if,
if
this
is
a
motion,
but
what
I'd
like
to
propose
is
that
we
extend
it
till
the
state
of
emergency
is
determined
to
be
over
by
the
state
or
local
officials
and
that
it
be
re-agendized
for
our
review
at
that
time,
because
we
may
not
want
to
do
it
immediately
because
they're
going
to
have
all
this
back
rent
to
pay
in
certain
cases.
M
A
So
I'll
let
staff
answer
that,
but
we
aren't
in
motions.
Quite
yet
we're
still
in
committee
questions.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
that's
feasible,
I
mean,
I
don't
know
what
you
think,
but
I
think
that's
feasible.
The
one
thing
I'm
going
to
say
is:
when
you
get
to
a
motion,
we
do
need
it
tied
to
one
declaration
of
emergency.
H
You
know
not,
because
then
it
gets
really
confusing
but
yeah.
I
think
that
would
be
feasible
that
we
re-examine,
because
I
think,
as
committee
member
grimwell
started
to
say,
we
might
want
to
allow
grace
period
for
people
to
bring
them
back
up
exactly.
G
Yeah,
so
my
question
is,
with
this
proposed
regulation:
if
it
were
enacted,
could
you
have
a
situation
where
you
had
a
landlord
and
a
tenant
entering
into
a
rental
agreement
and
then
simultaneous
with
that?
You
had
an
addendum
to
the
rental
agreement
whereby
you
invoked
this
this
language,
whereby
a
tenant
and
a
landlord
would
voluntarily
agree
that
immediately
the
rent
would
be
reduced
by
a
specific
amount
until
let's
say
the
pandemic
were
over.
So
in
this
situation,
let's
say
the
rental
agreement
says:
the
rent
is
going
to
be
four
thousand
dollars
a
month.
G
At
the
same
time,
there's
an
addendum
executed
saying,
but
actually
it's
going
to
be
reduced
to
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
we're
gonna
keep
it
that
way
until
the
pandemic
is
over
and
then
when
the
pandemic
is
over.
Of
course
you
would
go
back
up
to
four
thousand
dollars
a
month
with
that
base
year,
rent
still
being
74
000
rather
than
2
000..
So
that's
my
question.
H
Think
that
is
a
possibility,
but
I
am
going
to
say
that
you
know
the
the
cfa
is
a
complaint
based
program
and
tenants
may
bring
petitions
when
they
got
that
rent
increase
back
up
on
the
basis
that
they
may
be
considered.
A
waiver
of
their
rights,
which
you
also
cannot
waive
and
the
point
about
the
prohibition
on
waivers,
is
when
you're
negotiating
a
lease
agreement,
it's
an
inherently
unequal
relationship
between
landlord
and
tenant.
H
So
I
could
see
tenants
bringing
those
kind
of
claims
in
a
petition
and
it
would
be
up
to
the
hearing
officers
and
ultimately,
the
rhc
to
determine
those.
So
I
just
want
to
be
cautious
and
not
giving
you
the
advice
to
any
property
owners
about
how
they
want
to
manage
their
leases
and
their
expectations.
L
M
Almond,
you
have
your
hand
raised
yeah,
so
I
could
see
that
that
might
be
a
problem
if
you
build
it
into
the
lease
that
it's
4
000
and
it
bounces
back
to
4
000
at
a
certain
point,
if
the
market
rates
are
going
down,
they
may
lose
tenants
by
keeping
by
forcing
it
back
up
to
the
pre
penta
pandemic
price.
A
I
do
have
a
one
question
relating
to
almost
a
similar
situation.
I
I've
seen
obviously
ads
of
the
first
month
free
kind
of
rent.
How
does
that
work
with
a
regular
it
doesn't?
It
obviously
is
not
what
this
regulation
was
meant
for,
but
how
does
that
seems
to
be
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
regulation,
but
does
that
is
there
any
concerns
that
it
might
affect?
H
A
A
All
right,
so
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
public
comment
on
this
item.
8.1
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
public
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raised
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
L
Gupta,
sorry,
I
think
I
was
talking
on
mute.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
organizing
this.
Actually,
we
have
a
question
with
this
regulation.
How
I
mean
everybody
are
impacted
because
of
this
economic
like
pandemic
thing,
which
has
happened
over
this
year,
but
how?
How
can
a
landlord's
perspective
be
beneficial
in
this
case
because
for
a
lender's
perspective,
and
this
regulation
will
definitely
help
in
their
introduction
for
until
few
months
or
until
the
pandemic
is
over?
But
for
the
landlord's
perspective
like?
A
In
public
comment,
we
can't
answer
any
questions.
However,
do
you
mind
telling
me
the
pronunciation
of
your
name?
I
would
like
to
at
least
get
that
right.
L
Sure
it
is,
my
name
is
sherpa
s.
F
Yeah,
I
do
want
to
refer
landlords
to
talk
to
their
tenants
if
they
are
not
willing
to
to
not
able
to
pay
their
rent,
that
there
is
a
rent,
help
program
in
the
city
of
mountain
view,
and
the
csa
is
administrating
that
that
program.
L
N
We
will
be
sharing
that
information
at
the
end
of
the
evening
and
I
think
the
email
address
csa
cares
at
andrea.
Can
you
jump
in
here
real
quick
rat.
N
Me
double
check
that
for
you,
if
you
stay
on
I'll,
make
sure
that
we
get
it
right
for
you.
O
Hi
everyone,
emily
hislef
from
the
mountain
view,
rental
housing
helpline-
I'm
still
here.
I
just
wanted
to
I've,
had
questions
from
landlords
for
some
clarification
about
this
regulation
and
whether
the
tenants
really
have
to
be
impacted
by
economically
by
covet
19..
O
There's
someone
to
want
to
reach
out
to
their
tenants,
because
you
know
they
know
that
events
are
going
down
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
summarize
them
to
stay,
and
they
would
like
to
have
a
voluntary
agreement
to
lower
the
rent
for
a
time,
but
the
tenant
may
not
necessarily
be
impacted.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
was.
O
F
I
want
to
look
to
karen
for
an
answer,
but
in
general
it's
an
agreement
between
the
tenant
and
the
landlord.
So
if
a
tenant
feels
that
they're
impacted
by
covid
and
the
lieutenant
and
the
landlord
both
want
to
go
into
an
agreement,
I
don't
think
that
the
leonard
has
to
fact
checked
what
type
of
impact
or
how
the
tenant
is
impacted
by
kovic
19..
F
O
That's
I.
What
I
meant
was
that
there's
landlords
that
have
several
units
they
want
to
keep
their
tenants.
They
know
that
there's
deals
to
be
had,
so
they
would
like
to
lower
the
rent
for
a
time
as
an
incentive
to
keep
those
tenants,
and
these
tenants
may
still
be
employed
and
not
be
having
trouble
with
the
rent.
But
the
landlord
doesn't
want
to
get
themselves
into
a
situation
where
the
tenant
might
turn
around
and
at
the
end
of
everything,
file
an
unlawful
rent
petition
later
on,
because
they
weren't
they
weren't,
technically
impacted.
F
H
The
regulation
is
written
pretty
broadly,
so
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
requires
any
verification
that
the
tenant
is
suffering
from
the
covet
impact,
although
the
intent
was
to
help
tenants
who
might
be
suffering
and
landlords
who
wanted
to
help
them.
A
Thank
you
for
that,
emily.
I
guess,
unless
you
have
any
other
feedback
of
what
you've
been
hearing
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
speaker,
tim
mckenzie.
A
P
Hi,
my
name
is
tim.
I've
been
a
renter
in
mountain
view
for
about
five
years.
I
just
wanna
make
a
comment
about
duration
of
this.
We
have
a
vaccine
like
we
have
a
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
but
the
rollout
is
going
to
be
a
logistical
nightmare
vaccine.
It's
two
shots
three
weeks
apart,
it's
about
a
month
from
your
first
shot
before
you
get
you're
actually
fully
immunized
by
the
vaccine,
we're
probably
not
expecting
roll
out
for
the
general
population
until
april
or
so
at
the
earliest.
Because
of
distribution
issues.
P
This
is
it's
a
slow
process
and
then,
even
when
the
public
health
situation
is
taken,
care
of
people
who
are
in
difficult
financial
situations
are
going
to
have
a
long
time
to
claw
back
to
the
baseline,
where
some
of
these
people
may
have
been
struggling
anyways.
So
I
just
really
want
to
echo
what
vice
chair
almond
was
talking
about
earlier
that
when
the
public
health
crisis
ends,
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
economic
crisis
will
end
where
there's
predictions
of
waves
of
eviction
in
eviction
tsunami.
A
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
anna
marie
morales.
Q
Hi
there.
Thank
you
everyone.
I
am
a
lifelong
resident
of
mountain
view
and
I
am
utterly
appalled
at
the
sheer
audacity
of
certain
rhc
members
that
have
done
nothing
but
undermine
the
csfra,
which
is
the
will
of
the
people
and
should
be
carried
out
as
such.
The
continued
action
and
inaction
of
committee
members,
grunewald
and
pardo
desella
is
disgusting
and
is
more
so
during
this
horrible
pandemic
you
both
have
done
immeasurable
harm
to
our
community.
Q
A
Thank
you,
anna
marie
morales.
Just
a
reminder,
this
is
item
8.1,
the
extensions
of
regulations
for
voluntary
agreements
to
reduce
rents.
Next
we
have
tim
larson.
R
R
It
sounds
like
there
are
still
some
options
that
could
be
further
explored
in
terms
of
how
landlords
could
temporarily
provide
rent
relief
even
for
new
tenants
to
enable
them
to
address
some
of
the
challenges
around
covid19
and
its
impacts,
and
I
encourage
the
committee
to
continue
to
find
these
sorts
of
creative
solutions
to
address
the
issues
that
we're
all
facing
today.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
tim
next
up.
We
have
edie
keating.
S
Hello,
so,
overall,
I
see
this
item
as
being
a
rare
situation
that
has
a
mutual
benefit
for
both
the
landlord
and
the
tenant.
The
landlord
is
preserving
their
base,
rent
while
being
able
to
to
the
benefit
of
the
tenant
offer
a
temporary
lower
rent
and
during
the
covid
crisis
is
a
bad
time
for
anyone
to
be
moving.
So
this
seems
to
be
a
good
way
to
keep
some
stability
with
people
able
to
get
a
lower
rent
without
needing
to
move
even
a
temporary
one.
S
Some
tenants
are
also
negotiating
for
a
permanent,
lower
rent
which
is
more
beneficial
to
the
tenant
and
that's
between
them
and
the
landlord
and
their
you
know
sense
of
the
market.
One
of
the
questions,
and
the
other
thing,
of
course
that
some
tenants
will
do
is
to
move
because
then
they
get
a
permanent
lower
rent.
S
Another
thing
I
wonder
about
is,
I
didn't
see
a
sample
of
a
form
that
a
tenant
and
a
landlord
would
fill
out
for
the
temporary
rent
reduction,
and
I
wonder
if
that
form
includes
an
end
date.
In
other
words,
do
they
make
an
agreement
between
the
tenant
and
the
landlord
to
reduce
rent
for
six
months,
or
do
they
reduce
rent
until
what
so,
I'm
curious,
if
there's
anyone
with
information
about
that,
but
overall,
I
certainly
support
giving
this
flexibility.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
john
lashley,
my
browns.
Are
he
and
him
I'm
worried,
based
on
the
comments
of
committee
members,
part
of
gisella
and
grunwald,
that
some
landlords
may
try
to
sneakily
apply
this
to
new
renters.
T
And
what
I'm
worried
about
is
that
you
know
these.
These
tenancy
agreements
can
be
circuitous
or
long
documents
and
I'm
worried
that
landlords
may
try
to
trick
new
renters
into
doing
this.
T
A
U
Hey
committee
member
goodwill,
I
just
like
to
ask
if
you've
considered
reading
either
the
csfra
or
any
of
the
staff
reports
before
coming
to
the
meetings.
It
might
help
you
to
understand
anything
and
allow
you
to
better
perform
your
duties,
since
you
guys
haven't
heard
anything
from
landlords
or
tenants
about
this
regulation.
Do
you
know
if
it's
been
utilized
by
anyone?
U
Also
to
the
point
earlier?
Could
months
off,
of
rent
subsidies
or
other
contracts
that
are
required
separate
from
the
lease
be
convinced,
consider
the
subversion
of
the
concept
of
base
run
and
therefore
in
violation
of
the
spirit
of
the
csfra
hey?
Would
you
sign
this
lease
and
then
also
this
contract?
That
lets
me
raise
your
rent
above
that
lab
by
law
at
some
later
date.
No
shoot
damn
well.
U
A
Thank
you,
alexander
brown.
Seeing
no
other
comments,
I'm
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee
for
deliberation
and
a
motion
can
be
in
order.
M
Thank
you,
so
I
would
like
to
propose
that
this
opportunity
to
enter
into
a
temporary
rent
relief
or
temp
what
temporary
rent
reduction
sorry
be
extended
to
the
length
of
the
state
emergency
and
were
brought
back
to
the
committee
at
that
time.
For.
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
suggestion
to
remove
the
mention
of
tenant
impact
at
all
would
provide
clarity.
I
mean,
I
think
anyone
who
wants
to
enter
into
this
agreement
should
be
able
to
to
mr
lashley's
comments.
I'm
completely
supportive
saying
this
doesn't
clearly
apply
to
new
tendencies.
I
think
that
was
part
of
my
question
to
try
to
clarify
that
I'd
also
be
in
favor
of
taking,
I
think,
taking
it
one
step
further
to
what
susan
mentioned
in
I
mean
just
if
we're
not
sure
how
long
it
will.
B
You
know
if
they're
follow-on
effects
to
the
pandemic
that
takes
a
while
for
impacts
on
people's
income
for
many
months
down
the
road.
Why
not
just
you
know,
take
the
time
limit
off
and
revisit
this
a
couple
times
a
year
or
something
to
see.
If
you
want
to
remove
it,
I
mean
again,
it
seems
seems
to
me
like
if
a
tenant
and
landlord
want
to
enter
into
this,
and
to
mr
lashley's
point,
you
know
as
long
as
it's
clear.
C
I
don't
know
that
I
want
to
say
we
revisit
at
that
point,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
gives
comfort
to
folks
who
may
be
struggling
to
catch
up
on
bills.
They
get
their
job
back.
Let's
say,
state
of
emergency
ends
a
month
later:
okay,
you're,
finally
starting
to
get
income
coming
in,
I
kind
of
like
to
see
it
as
either
a
three
or
six
months
after
the
state
of
emergency
is
ended
as
a
terminus.
I
also
feel
like
that.
Just
I
feel
like
that.
C
C
And
now
does
you
know
these
are
all
things
that
are
hard
to
plan
for
so
I'd
almost
like
to
see
either
three
or
six
months
past
so
end
of
state
of
emergency
plus
three
or
six
months,
and-
and
I
could
toy
with
other
months,
but
I
think
three
or
six
is
just
kind
of
something
that
people
can
plan
ahead
for
so
that
would
be
my
one
thought
on
the
motion
on
the
floor.
A
M
God,
sorry,
I
wanted
to
dovetail
with
matt's
suggestion.
Why
not?
This
is
a
voluntary
agreement.
Why
not
not
just
let
it
be
a
voluntary
option
between
a
tenant
and
landlord?
M
We
don't
know
the
person
any
of
the
peop,
the
tenants
or
landlord
situation
at
the
time
at
which
things
wind
down,
but
also
there
may
be
things
that
come
up
over
the
years
and-
and
I
would
love
it
if
I
could
renegotiate
on
a
voluntary
basis-
we're
not
creating
a
mandate
here,
we're
just
giving
we're
kind
of
validating
the
option
that
you
can.
You
can
actually
talk
to
your
landlord,
see
what
happens
so,
I
think,
having
it
open-ended
might
be
a
good
thing.
What
do
other
people
think.
M
Yes,
I
would
move
to
use
the
language
that
we
already
have
to
give
tenants
and
round
loads
the
option
to
lower
to
voluntarily
lower
their.
H
We
do
it
is
in
your
packet
after
the
staff
report,
so
I
think
I
certainly
need
some
clarity.
Are
we
changing
the
language?
You
also
have
the
draft
language
or
the
regulation.
Are
we
changing
the
language
of
that
regulation?.
H
M
F
So,
just
to
recap,
the
questions
were:
is
it
only
covert
related
tenants
and
the
second
topic
I
heard
brought
up
does:
does
it
need
to
extend
it
to
a
certain
period
of
time,
or
I
also
heard
the
suggestion
to
just
not
put
an
end
date
on
it?
So
those,
I
think,
are
the
two
issues
that
you
may
want
to
consider
when
you
make
a.
C
C
Where
there's
an
attempt
to
do
it
back,
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
back
door,
a
backdoor
rent
production
ergo,
you
sign
a
lease,
for,
as
the
example
is
four
thousand
dollars
immediately
executed,
now
the
saying
that
you're
going
to
reduce
it
by
half
to
two
thousand,
because
those
are
two
different
things
I
mean
one
is
a
tenant
that
took
possession
of
a
unit
after
we
made
this
initial
emergency
regulation
and
the
other
one
is
an
attempt
to
do
a
back
door
arrangement,
not
saying
backdoor,
meaning
good
bad
or
indifferent,
but
just
a
different
arrangement
altogether.
C
It's
not
taking
possession
of
a
property
at
one
rent
with
the
understanding
you
will
be
paying
that
suffering.
Some
sort
of
situation,
or
even
just
looking
around
and
going
hey
rents,
are
a
lot
lower
around
me.
Maybe
I
can
arrange
a
reduction
there
to
me.
There
are
two
philosophical
differences,
so
we
might
want
to
clarify
that.
H
Right
if
we
are
going
to
put
some
parameters
around
the
new
tendencies,
we
need
to
establish
a
date
tendencies
established
after
a
certain
date.
If
we
do
something
else,
that's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
and
I'm
going
to
admit
I
might
have
a
hard
time
drafting
on
the
fly
or
something
different.
N
F
A
M
What
I
was
originally
saying
was
instead
of
saying
in
effect
april
30th
2020.
I
would
switch
it
to
I
think,
six
months
after
the
end
of
the
state
of
the
state
state
of
emergency.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
have,
I
see
a
handrails
committee
member
haynes,
libsay.
C
Sorry
this
is
karen.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
question
for
you,
but
in
reading
the
language
of
this
regulation
now
more
closely
to
me
the
line
that
reads
in
the
event
of
any
such
voluntary
rent
reduction,
the
aga
adopted
by
the
rhc
effective
september,
1st
2020,
so
will
be
calculated
based
on
the
rent
for
the
covered
unit.
C
In
effect
on
april
30,
2020
would
suggest
that
this
only
applies
to
tenancies,
which
existed
on
april
30th
2020
or
before,
if
I'm
reading
that
language
properly
and
also
would
mean
that
this
only
allows
for
the
aga
that
took
effect
on
september
1st
2020.
Am
I
correct
in
that
read,
or
am
I
being
too
prescriptive,
because
if
we're
making
a
comment,
maybe
we
should
edit
more.
H
C
H
Right,
okay
right,
but
presumably
also
you
probably
wouldn't
get
an
aga
in
september.
If
you
moved
in
in
july,
one
very.
H
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor:
do
we
have
a.
C
A
No
comments,
oh
committee,
member
greenwald,.
B
Thanks
yeah,
so
the
line
about
on
a
covered
unit
to
address
economic
impacts
on
the
tenant
of
the
cove
19
pandemic.
I
mean,
I
think
that
was
part
of
the
one
of
the
suggestions
right
to
potentially
remove
just
mention
of
tenant
impact.
Maybe
that's
a
question
for
karen.
I
think
we
discussed
that
a
little
bit
karen,
but
if
the
committee
is
open
to
just
removing
that,
then
I
think
that
eliminates
confusion.
B
I
guess
to
also
to
nicole's
other
question
even
saying
even
even
definitively
saying
that
this
does
not
apply
to
tendencies
that
you
know
weren't
in
effect
on
april
30th.
You
know
I'd
be
supportive
of
that
again
for
clarity.
The
intent
of
this
based
on
the
discussion
doesn't
seem
to
be
to
cover
new
tenancies.
B
A
All
right
now
that
we
are
done
with
this
agenda
item.
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
item
8.2
requests
to
place
on
the
subs
on
a
subsequent
rhc
agenda,
consideration
of
various
issues
relating
to
csfra,
section
1718,
which
allows
rhd
to
suspend
the
csfra
if
the
annual,
if
the
average
annual
vacancy
rate
for
controlled
genus
exceeds
5,
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
F
So
the
purpose
of
this
agenda
item
is
for
the
middle
housing
committee
to
consider
and
determine
whether
to
place
on
a
subsequent
rental
housing
committee
agenda.
These
various
items
related
to
csra,
section
1718,
allowing
the
rental
housing
committee
to
consider
suspending
the
csfra
if
the
average
annual
vacancy
rate
for
controlled
units
exceeds
five
percent.
F
As
a
little
background,
the
rental
housing
committee
did
adopt
rules
of
comment
in
chapter
three,
providing
in
section
c
that
committee
members
request
to
place
items
on
an
rc.
Our
rental
housing
committee
agenda
will
be
put
on
an
agenda
to
ask
the
rental
housing
committee.
If
the
item
shall
be
placed
on
a
future
agenda.
F
L
A
C
M
Muted
sorry,
I
gotta
watch
that
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
not
do
this.
Let
me
not
consider
placing
this
on
an
agenda.
A
B
Yeah,
I
I
guess
if
to
anki
I
mean,
I
know
this
isn't
a
substantive
conversation,
but
is
there
like
a
preview
of
what
would
go
on
to
the
agenda
or
which
which
items
would
be
discussed
or
is
it
just
a
general
item
of
considering
procedures.
F
Well,
once
you
decide
whether
or
not
to
put
it
on
a
future
agenda,
we
have
to
look
at
our
workload
and
determine
when
it
would
be
an
opportune
time
for
us
to
bring
that
back,
because
it
does
come
with
an
considerable
amount
of
research
that
has
to
be
done.
So
that's
all
I
can
say
for
now.
B
Maybe
maybe
a
follow
sorry,
a
follow-up
question
there
in
a
prior
meeting
we
had
discussed
you
know
just
I
think
part
of
part
of
the
cssa
says
that
a
you
know,
a
survey
would
be
required
to
to
actually
just
track
the
vacancy
rate
over
time.
I
guess
is
that
like,
would
that
be
a
separate
discussion
of
of
just
like
the
ability
to
collect
data,
or
is
that
part
of.
F
A
Do
you
have
any
other
questions
from
committee
members
all
right,
seeing
none?
We
will
go
to
public
comment.
A
All
right
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
the
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains
all
right
and
we
have
about
eight
kilometers.
So
you
will
get
three
minutes
and
staff
will
let
you
know
when
one
minute
remains.
W
I
am
a
renter
in
the
general
santa
clara
county
area,
I'd
like
to
register
my
objections
to
the
current
proposal
to
agenda
is
a
look
at
the
suspension
of
the
csfra,
based
on
the
current
vacancy
rate,
while
the
cfra
specifically
allows
that
it
also
specifies
it
must
be
done
in
accordance
with
the
reason
why
the
csf
already
exists,
which
is
to
stabilize
the
community
that
currently,
the
community
is
not
stabilized
given
this
pandemic
is
wreaking
havoc,
because
people
can't
pay
rent
and
their
rents
are
still
too
damn
high
and
in
the
midst
of
the
worst
time
of
a
pandemic
right
now,
where
the
emphasis
is
on
shelter
in
place,
it
seems
immoral
that
we
should
be
even
considering
lifting
the
one
law
that
actually
provides
decent
tenant
protections
to
the
renters
of
our
area.
W
W
That
is,
that
is
not
going
to
be
a
guarantee
necessarily
when
the
pen
never
comes
comes
to
an
end.
Finally,
after
who
knows
got
long
that
we
honestly
don't
know
what
the
housing
market
is
going
to
look
like
when
everything
is
going
to
follow
through
within
the
year,
whether
we
even
get
the
eviction
protections
we
deserve
in
january,
or
leave
up
to
wolves,
but
as
as
just
a
renter
in
california
like.
I
do
not
weaken
this
at
this
point.
Thank
you
or
at
any
time
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
X
Yep
that
that
that's
correct
hello,
my
name
is
scott
hayden,
I'm
a
mountain
view,
voter
worker
and
renter
the
fact
that
this
proposal
even
made
it
this
far
should
not
but
does
shock
me.
It's
been
the
goal
of
the
landlord
and
real
estate
lobbies
of
of
mountain
view
in
california
in
general
to
abolish
rent
control
ever
since
measure
v
was
passed
and
now
you're
using
a
deadly
plague
to
advance
your
radical
anti-human
pro-profit
goal.
X
X
It's
completely
outrageous
cdc
guidelines
state
that,
given
the
disease
ravaging
the
country
and
spreading
uncontrolled
in
the
bay
area,
putting
us
back
in
a
purple
tier,
we
need
to
prevent
people
from
losing
their
homes
and
being
forced
to
move
vote
no
on
this
extreme
and
anti-science
proposal
and
protect
human
beings
during
a
deadly
pandemic,
that's
rendering
so
many
people
at
risk
of
death
and
eviction
already.
Furthermore,
please
do
some
introspection
and
think
about
what
kind
of
human
being
you
want
to
be
in
this
world.
Thank
you.
I
yield
my
time.
T
Members
of
the
rental
housing
committee-
my
name
is
john
lashley,
pronounced
he
and
him.
I
live
and
work
in
mountain
view
and
I'm
a
renter
I'm
speaking
tonight
to
strongly
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
item
8.2.
Mr
bartodezella's
request
to
vote.
Yes
would
be
a
mistake.
Moving
forward,
even
one
step
towards
invoking
section
1718,
the
removal
of
rent
stabilization
would
be
a
disaster
for
mountain
view's
renters.
T
For
years.
The
renters
of
mountain
view
have
worried
about
the
fair
implementation
of
the
csfra
we've
sweated,
through
debates
about
allowable
rent
increases
fee
pass-throughs
to
renters
and
covering
our
vulnerable
neighbors
and
mobile
homes.
Now
that
the
csfra
is
finally
at
a
somewhat
stable
state,
do
not
roll
it
back.
T
T
T
For
many
residents,
our
rents
are
not
in
fact
falling
and
we're
afraid
of
what
the
mercury
news
called
the
impending
eviction
tsunami.
We
need
the
protections
of
the
csfra
now
more
than
ever
once
the
pandemic
ends.
Hopefully
in
the
next
year,
when
our
social
lives
and
workplaces
go
back
to
the
quote,
unquote
new
normal.
When
we
regain
job
security,
maybe
then
it
will
make
sense
to
revisit
section
1718,
but
it
does
not
make
any
sense
to
take
away
our
rental
protections
and
rent
stabilization
during
the
state
of
emergency.
P
Cool,
my
name
is
tim
mckenzie,
my
pronouns.
Are
he
and
him?
I've
been
a
mountain
view,
record
renter
for
a
half
decade
now,
and
I
really
want
to
thank
the
rental
housing
committee
because
I
didn't
know
what
I
was
going
to
do
on
my
monday
night
and
now.
Instead,
I
get
to
spend
it
with
all
of
you
staring
into
a
computer
screen
more.
This
is
lovely.
Thank
you
for
the
shared
time.
P
If
you
can't
tell
I'm
being
facetious
that
like
well,
I
I
shouldn't
be
here.
I
can
see
at
least
someone
has
a
is
planning
a
future
in
city
politics,
because,
like
members
of
the
city
council,
you're
willing
to
ignore
a
public
health
crisis
in
the
pandemic
and
try
to
force
through
things
that
might
hurt
people
in
our
community
there's
a
pandemic.
Why
is
this
even
being
considered?
I,
like
I,
that's
that's
all
I
got
bye.
Thank
you.
A
H
M
I'm
assuming
this
agenda
request
is
motivated
by
the
concern
that
landlords
expected
a
reasonable
return
on
their
investments,
but
are
instead
suffering
losses
that
are
much
larger
than
they
expected,
as
is
almost
everyone
else,
but
renters
who
could
become
homeless
during
this
pandemic
could
lose
much
more
than
money.
M
M
R
Thank
you.
My
name
is
tim
larson.
I
am
a
mobile
home
resident
in
mountain
view.
I've
lived
here
for
the
past
eight
years.
I
am
not
actually
covered
by
the
csfra,
which
is
maybe
worth
pointing
out,
as
others
have
discussed.
This
is
just
not
the
solution
that
makes
sense
for
going
forward
at
this
time.
Everybody
expects
the
impact
of
covid
to
be
severe
but
acute,
which
means
you
may
have
a
temporary
spike
in
vacancies.
R
But
then
you
will
also
have
once
cobit
resolves
a
significant
drop
in
vacancies.
Google
is
set
right
now
to
resume
on-campus
work
in
july.
Other
large
employers
in
the
area
will
also
be
going
back
to
work
during
the
coming
12
months.
R
If
you
try
to
adopt
this
measure,
you're
going
to
introduce
a
great
deal
of
additional
uncertainty,
as
everybody
tries
to
figure
out
when
the
annualized
vacancy
rate
goes
above
5
and
then
when
it's
going
to
drop
below
5,
this
is
going
to
potentially
lead
to
a
big
spike
in
you
know,
landlords
trying
to
take
advantage
of
no
more
rent
control
for
a
very
transient
window
right
as
people
are
trying
to
get
their
feet
back.
R
A
Y
Hey
yeah,
my
name
is
sebastian
rizwa
yeah,
it's
a
little
tricky,
that's
okay,
don't
worry
about
it
and
so
yeah
good
evening.
Everyone,
I
wonder,
just
like
a
question
for
part-
is
why
do
you
spend
your
time
thinking
about
ways
to
destabilize
our
community?
I
think
this
is
not
the
right
time
at
all
to
bring
up
section
1718.
Y
I
don't
think
it
was
written
in
a
time
when
people
were
you
know,
even
thinking
about
the
possibility
of
a
once-in-a-lifetime
pandemic
and
renters
need
help
right
now,
certain
landlords,
of
course,
but
it
is
hitting
everyone
and
our
most
vulnerable-
are
those
without
much
property
or
none
in
the
case
of
renters,
and
this
is
going
to
hit
them
very
hard
who
knows
who's
going
to
get
sick
who's
going
to
lose
their
job
going
forward?
Many
people
already
have
so
at
a
time
like
this.
It
is
not
the
time
to
repeal
rent
control
effectively.
Y
Y
A
J
Hello,
my
name
is
anna
zeiger,
I'm
a
mountain
new
resident
and
I'm
adding
my
voice
to
say:
don't
suspend,
rent
control,
the
health
and
financial
crises
are
volatile
and
the
economic
repercussions
will
be
long.
Lasting,
rent
or
protections
are
essential.
This
should
not
be
agendized
and
staff
time
shouldn't
be
wasted
on
this.
Thank
you.
Z
Thanks
emily,
I'm
just
so,
we
submitted
a
letter
from
mountain
view
coalition
for
sustainable
planning.
It's
short,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
read.
It
we'd
hope
that
items
a
two
and
a
three
would
be
swapped,
because
we
think
83
will
make
this
item
move,
but
anyway
here's
the
rest
of
the
letter.
We
believe
that
no
action
should
be
taken,
because
the
delinquency
rate
in
question
is
the
result
of
extraordinary
circumstances
related
to
the
pandemic,
such
as
job
loss
and
hours
or
pay
reductions
not
to
normal
market
fluctuations.
Z
To
suspend
sf
csfra
at
this
time
would
pose
an
unfair
burden
on
affected
renters
due
to
actual
conditions
impacting
the
vacancy
rate
and
implementing
a
suspension
decision
would
require
work
by
staff
that
they
can
hardly
afford
at
this
point,
and
we
can
be
reasonably
certain,
the
vacancy
rate
will
return
to
its
previous
state
once
the
pandemic
is
over.
So
all
the
staff
time
will
have
ultimately
not
been
needed.
Meanwhile,
shifting
the
csfra
status
will
effectively
lead
to
a
confusion
on
the
part
of
multiple
stakeholders.
Z
We
remind
you
that
measure
v
fits
with
council
goal,
promote
a
community
for
all,
with
a
focus
on
strategies
to
protect
vulnerable
populations
and
preserve
mountain
views,
socioeconomic
and
cultural
diversity.
Now,
more
than
ever,
we
need
the
renter
protections
of
measure
v
to
prevent
displacement
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents.
S
S
Without
the
csfra
we
can
expect
landlords
to
target
the
lowest
paying
renters,
including
including
those
economically
impacted
by
covid.
Why
not
do
an
eviction
by
rent
increase
to
get
rid
of
those
who
are
the
most
economically
fragile?
That
goes
against
the
spirit
of
the
csfra
that
that
would
be
economically
beneficial
to
landlords.
S
Landlords
will
repeatedly
raise
the
lowest
rents
without
limit
or
limited
only
by
state
law,
which
has
weak
protections
that
could
end.
I
remember
the
dismay
of
landlord
ally.
Tom
means
that
an
upward
petition
could
not
selectively
be
applied
to
raise
all
rents
up
to
equal,
equal
and
harm
most
the
lowest
paying
tenants.
Landlords
would
have
a
field
day
if
the
csfra
is
suspended,
not
all
landlords,
but
many
would
and
we've
heard
from
them
before.
S
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
bad
timing.
I
think
until
the
rent
registry
is
enacted,
that
looking
into
suspension
of
the
csfra
without
that
major
tool
to
find
out
what
is
really
happening
with
vacancy
rates
would
be
just
a
bad
use
of
all
the
resources
available
and,
of
course,
as
many
other
speakers
have
said,
these
are
not
normal
times
and
while
things
have
changed,
you
can
eat
outdoors,
you
can't
eat
outdoors.
You
can
go
to
a
store.
You
can't
go
to
a
store
all
so
many
things
are
moving.
S
I
Hi
my
name
is
annie
and
I
am
a
mountain
view
renter,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
neighbors,
who
are
who
who
also
include
seniors
they're
on
this
call
tonight,
but
they're
unable
to
voice
their
concerns.
We
live
in
actually
mr
pardo
de
zela's
neighborhood
and
our
kids
go
to
the
same
school
as
yours,
your
kids,
and
in
this
financial
and
health.
In
the
midst
of
this
financial
health
crisis,
we
we
urge
you
not
to
suspend
rent
control.
I
A
My
time,
thank
you
annie.
Next,
we
have
charles
fox.
E
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
I'm
glad
to
hear
from
tim
larson,
so
I
found
out
about
this
meeting.
I've
been
a
mountain
view
resident
for
oh
26
years
and
never
been
a
renter
all
that
time
and
I'm
so
so
grateful
for
the
cf
csfra
measure
v,
and
so
I
just
want
to
name
the
people.
E
Who've
spoken
anna
sebastian,
kevin
john
scott
b,
tim
and
edie,
for
your
just
for
speaking
up
for
justice
and
and
doing
that
with
clarity,
and
also,
I
feel
that
one
of
the
positive
things
about
our
mountain
view,
being
a
resident
of
mountain
view,
is
that
we
have
this
character.
That
says
you
know.
E
Rent
stabilization
was
a
an
issue
of
justice,
and
so
I
want
to
call
on
our
humanity,
not
our
cold
hard
business
face,
but
rather
our
humanity
say
well,
what's
the
right
thing
to
do
at
this
perilous
time
we're
not
out
of
this
we're
still
having
to
go
through
this
pandemic
and
hope
to
god
that
you
know
we
make
some
progress
but,
and
I'm
sure
we
will,
but
this
to
me
would
be
rolling
back
the
character
that
we
affirmed
and
measure
v
was
passed.
E
So
that's
really
what
I
have
to
say
mainly
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
my
you
know
mountain
view.
You
know
neighbors
who
have
spoken
up
in
the
way
that
you
have
so
thank
you.
AA
Hi
y'all,
my
name
is
galton
meyer.
He
him
I'm
a
college
student
who
just
came
back
from
college
and
I'm
with
my
family
in
mountain
view,
for
the
break,
I'm
lucky
enough
to
come
back
to
stable
housing,
but
thousands
in
mountain
view
are
not,
and
I
want
to
echo
everything
everybody
has
already
said
about
this
very
dubious
proposal
on
the
moral
side,
the
technical
vacancy
side
and
the
money
side
at
the
risk
of
just
reiterating
everything.
AA
The
funny
thing
is,
as
some
have
pointed
out,
the
same
landlord
associations
and
property
owners
that
are
pushing
narrow
streets
in
legislation
like
this,
which
routinely
cost
the
city
millions
in
extraneous
floppy
costs
and
run
up.
The
deficit
are
the
ones
calling
for
smaller
government
with
less
expenditure
on
unnecessary
social
programs
like
housing.
AA
The
ideology
to
begin
with
is
laden
with
contradictions
and
questionable
moral
calculi,
but
it's
pretty
funny
to
see
it
play
out
like
this.
Second,
this
whole
process
is
tremendously
undemocratic.
Why
should
two?
Maybe
three
people
be
able
to
put
thousands
of
mountain
view?
Residents
lives
at
risk,
contrary
to
the
wishes
of
the
majority
of
the
mountain
view,
population
that
voted
rent
control
into
law
in
the
first
place?
AA
I'm
not
sure
how
to
discuss
this
in
a
more
meaningful
manner,
because
the
same
logic
obviously
applies
to
many
of
the
decisions
that
city
council
makes,
but
it
seems
very
strange
to
me.
Similarly,
I
notice
how
most
people,
speaking
out
against
this
measure,
identify
as
renters
or
mobile
homeowners.
Where
are
homeowners
to
defend
the
people
around
us.
I
think
we're
missing
a
moral
imperative,
but
I
also
think
it
speaks
to
the
anti-democratic
nature
of
this
type
of
decision.
AA
The
same
people
that
overwhelmingly
supported
rent
control
in
the
first
place,
just
don't
know
that
the
rhc
is
considering
suspending
rent
control
I.e.
My
parents
voted
for
rent
control,
but
they
have
no
idea
that
this
is
happening.
So,
on
top
of
all
of
the
objections
raised
folks
on
the
rhc
supporting
this
just
shouldn't
feel
like
they
have
the
power
to
do
something
with
this
much
impact,
even
if
they
inexplicably
think
it's
the
right
thing.
AA
Thank
you
to
the
rental
housing
committee
and
thank
you
to
everyone
speaking
out
and
also
all
of
the
incredible
work
that
people
across
mountain
view
do
and
all
the
organizations,
like
the
mountain
view,
mobile
home
alliance,
the
housing
justice
coalition
coalition
for
sustainable
planning,
everybody
yeah.
Thank
you.
Q
Okay,
so
committee
member
pardo
de
zella
does
not
want
rent
stabilization
in
mountain
view.
His
board
faces
during
meetings
in
the
course
of
the
year,
his
shady
actions
and
then
finally,
him
asking
for
agenda
item
8.2
tonight
so
that
he
has
been
waiting
for
a
reason
to
essentially
end
rent
stabilization.
Q
This
is
a
gross
misuse
of
staff's
time.
They
already
do
so
much.
I
question
the
morality
of
committee
member
pardo
davila.
It
is
morally
wrong
to
bring
this
issue
up,
especially
during
this
pandemic.
There
are
many
many
vulnerable
renters,
including
myself,
and
my
disabled
mother,
that
are
worried
about
being
displaced.
Q
I've
spent
40
years
in
this
beautiful
city.
I
was
born
in
and
hoped
to
stay
for
40
more.
We
received
our
new
lease
letter,
which
gives
us
a
rent
increase
for
2021..
We
are
not
protected
by
the
csfra
as
noble
home
renters,
but
should
be.
We
are
vulnerable
and
scared,
but
if
fields
are
pleased
for
help
are
falling
on
people
that
simply
don't
care,
do
your
job
and
help
mountain
views
vulnerable
renters!
Please
vote
no
on
this
agenda
request.
Thank
you.
K
Rohingyas
hi
good
evening
everybody.
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that,
in
addition
to
what
everyone
else
has
said,
I
mean
it's
patently
immoral
to
try
to
you,
know,
agendize,
something
that
would
ostensibly
allow
the
that
to
even
consider
display
agendizing
something
that
would
likely
displace
a
lot
of
people
during
the
time
of
most
need.
K
I
think
the
people
of
mountain
view
have
seen
enough
times
what
the
sneaky
attempt
to
get
rid
of
rent
control
looks
like,
and
this
is
no
different,
so
I
I
think
it's
quite
absurd
to
pretend,
like
the
the
result
with
this
would
be
any
different
and
that
somehow
this
will
try
to
fly
under
the
radar
because
it
clearly
hasn't
with
that.
I
yield
my
time.
Thank
you.
AB
Hi
this
is
yoho
calling
in
they
them
pronouns,
and
the
mountain
view
render
I'm
calling
in
about
item
8.2,
which
is
to
consider
whether
to
place
on
a
subsequent
rc
agenda,
various
items
that
would
allow
the
rhc
to
consider
suspension
of
the
css
csf
array
if
the
average
annual
vacancy
rate
for
controlled
units
exceeds,
I
percent,
don't
do
it.
AB
It's
you'd
be
using
the
economic
impact
of
the
pandemic
as
an
excuse
to
undermine
rent
control
so
again,
like
this,
is
really
transparent
and
would
be
really
devastating
to
the
people
impacted.
It's
incredible
that
you
know
this
is
being
pushed.
AB
I
don't
even
see
a
reason
for
it
in
the
in
the
email
that
was
sent.
I
mean
there's
just
no
there's
no
reason
to
do
this.
This
is
not
the
kind
of
circumstance
you
know
where,
or
it
makes
sense
to
use
this
clause.
V
V
I
could
be
a
homeowner,
but
I'm
a
public
school
teacher,
and
I
I
don't
have
2
million
sitting
around,
and
I
know
that
colleagues
of
mine
that
have
gone
through
teacher
education.
They
have
said
none
of
the
teachers
in
any
of
the
mountain
view.
Districts
can
afford
living
here
and
so
a
thematic
of
this
whole
pandemic.
V
V
You
know
at
this
point
with
the
narrow
streets
measure
that
just
passed,
and
this
trying
to
agenda
is
this.
V
None
of
you
might
as
well
just
adopt
a
resolution
saying
that
we
hate
poor
people,
because
it
really
feels
that
way
and
what
else
did
I
want
to
say
we
are
all
two
or
three
paychecks
away
from
ending
up
homeless
ourselves,
no
matter
how
well
to
do
you
are
so
please
remember
that
we
are
very
we're
much
closer
to
being
homeless
than
we
are
becoming
billionaires,
and
so
we
need
to
remember
that
and
have
compassion
for
that
fact.
L
A
You
ava
next
last
up
is
alexander
brown.
U
Oh,
my
god,
you
know
how
much
I
love
the
going
last
okay,
this
is
the
dramatic
one
the
sun
has
abandoned
us.
The
season
of
darkness
is
here,
thousands
are
dying
of
covet
every
day,
so,
let's
cheer
up
some
landlords
by
screwing
over
the
most
vulnerable
now
is
a
hell
of
a
time
to
try
and
rip
the
rug
out
from
under
the
residence
of
mountain
view
by
suspending
the
provisions
of
the
csfra.
U
This
is
a
very
good
and
productive
use
of
your
time
and
authority
and
is
definitely
going
to
achieve
the
objectives
of
the
csf
ra.
So
do
it.
Let's
take
advantage
of
this
crisis
to
destroy
the
red
protections
that
have
been
keeping
people
in
their
homes
for
four
years
now
come
on.
Show
us
your
true
colors.
U
I
love
watching
these
meetings
and
seeing
julian
find
obscure
pieces
of
the
csfra
to
use
to
accomplish
his
names
and
matt,
not
finding
any
pieces
of
the
csf
array.
Matt
use
whatever
search
engine
you
like
type
in
unicode,
csfra
mountain
view,
section
1718
is
three
sentences
also.
I
am
sad
that
julian
wasn't
made
to
use
the
same
process
that
it
took
while
matt
was
share
to
try
and
agenda's
mobile
home
protections.
It
was
very
gracious
of
chair
ramos
to
allow
this
all
things
considered.
V
H
B
Sure
so,
based
on
julian's
question-
and
I
know
we're
I'm
not
sure
the
level
of
subtensive
conversation
we're
supposed
to
be
having,
but
that
that
was
my
initial
reaction.
I
I
didn't
assume
that
he,
his
intent,
arguing
that
it's
possible
for
this
committee
to
you
know
turn
down,
suspend
the
csf
array
right.
B
I
see
that
being,
you
know
almost
impossible
and
and
highly
unlikely,
but
I've
been
looking
back
at
looking
back
at
what
we've
origin
items
from
the
past
and
in
september
you
know
we
did
send
a
list
that
we
unanimously
agreed
upon
of
the
things
that
we
thought
were
wrong
with
the
cssra
and
what
council,
if
they
were
going
to
create
amendments
that
we
would
change
right.
One
of
those-
and
I
think,
staff
you
know
brought
this
to
us.
B
The
rc
would
support
a
change
in
the
cs
operator,
provide
flexibility
to
deal
with
unclear,
unintentional
consequences
of
current
language.
The
rtc
would
support
a
member
of
csfra
to
achieve
consistency
with
regard
to
exempt
units,
for
example,
exempting
all
single-family
homes
within
an
adu
on
the
property,
as
well
as
single
duplexes
we've
wanted.
B
We
wanted
this
flexibility
and
I
think
this
is
a
mechanism
or
a
tool
by
which,
if
we
certify
a
vacancy
rate,
we
could
potentially
start
discussing
line
items
that
we
could
change
and
we
still
need
a
majority
of
this
council
to
accept
those
changes
you
know
so
so
that's
I.
I
sense
the
frustration
you
know
from
the
community
and
everyone
I
mean,
but
I
I
don't
see
the
rhc
suspending
it,
but
right
now
you're.
B
We
wanted
to
change,
even
if
nothing
else,
changes
right
and
to
be
clear,
like
removing
protections
for
economically
fragile
during
this
time
is
not
something
that,
like
the
cpi
changes
or
agas
or
anything
like
that,
like
I
wouldn't
consider
that
either,
but
you
know
other
items
that
we've
been
looking
to
change
for
a
while
to
not
explore
that
at
this
point
seems
after
that's
what
we've
been
begging
council
to
to
consider.
B
You
know
passing
their
own
legislation
to
cover
some
of
these
issues.
You
know,
I
think
we
should
at
least
explore
it.
B
I
guess
that's
my
my
pitch
to
everyone
else
and
I'm
willing,
as
part
of
that,
to
to
establish
that
cpi,
for
certain
groups
wouldn't
be
touched
as
part
of
that
and
just
cause
evictions
would
not
be
put
touched
as
part
of
that,
but
this
is
a
unique
time
where
we
have
a
window
to
change
some
of
the
things
we've
been
looking
to
change,
at
least
in
my
view
and
yeah
I'll
leave
it
there.
M
I
am
sorry
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
not
consider
this
item.
A
We
let
me
get
to
committee
member
haines,
lipstick
and
then
I
also
have
some
comments
as
well.
So
committee,
member
haynes,
livesay.
C
C
C
What
is
the
ultimate
outcome
is
empathy.
The
right
choice
or
is
trying
to
get
the
business
done,
the
right
choice
and-
and
I
feel
like
I've
said
this
before
and
maybe
not
always
on
the
dais-
or
you
know
here
on
our
zooms
now,
but
sometimes
things
we
want
to
see
done
have
to
go
slower
than
we
would
want,
because
we
need
to
be
prudent
people
about
how
we
act
and
that's
our
role
is.
C
We
need
to
think
about
what
that
the
idea
of
this
even
does
to
our
community
psyche.
That's
already
stretched
thin
and
be
conscious
of
that,
and
I'm
never
against
talking
about
an
issue.
I
think
talking
about
issues
is
really
important
and
I
think
healthy
debate
is
critical,
but
to
me
this
is
just
if,
if
we're
doing
it,
because
there
are
certain
things,
we
tactically
think
we
need
to
modify
in
the
csfr.
C
I
think
we're
using
a
sledgehammer
where
a
scalpel
belongs
and
maybe
not
even
a
scalpel,
maybe
like
a
a
literal
like
laser,
like
you
use
for
laser
eye
surgery
like
very,
very
thin
cuts
and
if
we're
doing
it,
because
we
want
to
build
out
what
the
survey
would
look
like
so
that
we
have
that
valve.
This
is
probably
not
the
right
time.
I
would
say
it's
almost
from
what
I'm
hearing
it
is
causing
people
great
stress.
C
A
G
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
the
intention
of
this
is
to
allow
us
to
educate
ourselves
about
what
we
can
and
can't
do
to
suspend
certain
aspects
of
the
csfra
in
a
way
that
will
still
help
the
community.
So
this
is
a
huge
act.
It's
lengthy
we've
read
it
there's
all
kinds
of
stuff
in
there.
What
we
want
to
understand,
I
think,
is
how
we
can
how
we
can
benefit
the
community.
G
That's
the
one
thing
we
can
all
agree
on,
and
there
certainly
are
aspects
of
the
csfra
that
I
think
we
at
least
want
to
consider
the
impact
of
suspending.
So,
for
example,
there
are
landlords
who
have
who
have
said
very
publicly-
and
many
memories
have
said
this-
that,
because
of
the
huge
vacancy
rate
right
now,
they
are
unwilling
or
or
reluctant
to
rent
certain
units
in
mountain
view,
because
they're
afraid
they're
going
to
get
stuck
with
a
very
low
base
rent,
so
they've
got
a
lot
of
units
available.
G
They
don't
want
to
rent
them
right
now
because
they
might
have
a
tenant
for
the
long
haul
that
they
end
up
with
at
a
very
low
base,
rent
so
they're
around.
What
you
have
told
that
to
me
they
said
I've
got
a
bunch
of
units,
but
I'm
not
going
to
rent
them
right
now,
I'm
going
to
instead
hold
them
off
the
market
and
wait
until
the
rents
have
increased,
and
then
I
can
put
it
on
the
market.
G
So
just
one
of
many
many
examples
of
things
that
we
could
consider
and
this
again
this
is
a
proposal
to
have
a
conversation
right.
This
is
a
procedural
item,
not
a
substantive
item,
but
if
we
actually
decided
to
inform
ourselves
more
about
these
issues
and
educate
ourselves,
then
we
very
well
might
be
able
to
take
some
actions
that
will
increase
the
supply
of
units
available
in
mountain
view.
G
So
the
idea
that
if
we
even
consider
this
issue,
it
automatically
means
that
it's
an
all-or-nothing
thing
and
we
just
we
put
an
end
to
rent
a
rent,
control
or
rent
stabilization
in
mountain
view,
is,
is
not
the
intention
and
not
the
case.
The
idea
is
to
educate
ourselves,
have
a
better
understanding
and
better
better
informed
about
what
we
can
and
can't
do
to
address
the
current
situation
in
mountain
view
and
until
kevin
a
few
minutes
ago
said
this.
G
I
don't
know
that
anyone
in
the
committee
or
any
of
the
people
that
spoke
tonight
had
any
idea
of
whether
we
could
just
suspend
certain
provisions
of
the
csfra
rather
than
the
entire
csfra.
That's
a
big
deal
to
know
that
so
now
we
know
that
so
that
helps
your
decision-making
right.
So
if
it
was
an
all-or-nothing
thing
and
it's
simply,
you
get
rid
of
the
csfra,
you
suspend
the
whole
thing
or
you
keep
the
whole
thing.
G
I
would
vote
against
suspending
the
whole
thing,
because
that
is
a
sledge
hammer,
but
don't
we
want
to
know
if
there's
some
middle
ground
and
some
nuance
and
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
do
to
tweak
things
or
suspend
certain
things
while
still
keeping
protections
in
place,
but
that
will
help
increase
the
supply
of
apartments.
In
mountain
view,
these
are
things
that
we
don't
have
answers
to
right
now.
G
The
point
of
this,
the
point
of
putting
an
item
on
the
agenda
for
future
conversation
is
to
educate
ourselves,
inform
ourselves
and
then
make
a
decision
and
right
now
what
most
people
have
said
is
I'm
not
sure
I
know
anything
about
this,
but
I'm
still
going
to
reflexively
decide.
I
don't
even
want
to
talk
about
it
or
consider
it.
G
I
think
we
have
to
educate
ourselves
and
then
make
a
decision
and
instead
of
just
reflectively
acting,
you
know,
I
don't
see
a
reason
to
understand
the
reason
why
we
couldn't
keep
every
single
protection
in
place
in
the
csfra,
while
just
suspending
certain
provisions
that
may
currently
make
it
difficult
for
landlords
to
find
a
way
to
rent
units
of
mountain
view.
Maybe
that's
something
we
want
to
explore.
G
So
the
whole
point
is
you
put
an
item
on
the
agenda.
Then
you
have
staff,
look
into
it.
You
have
council
look
into
it
and
then
we
consider
it
next
time
and
then
we
make
an
informed
decision
and
maybe
all
five
of
us
say
no,
it's
not
going
to
work,
it's
not
workable,
it
doesn't
make
sense
and
then
fine
and
then
we
move
on,
but
instead
to
just
make
a
decision
not
to
think
and
not
to
be
informed
and
not
to
be
educated
about
what
we
can
do
here.
G
I
think
that's
an
advocation
of
our
role.
We
owe
it
to
ourselves
and
to
the
public
to
figure
out,
there's
something
we
can
do
right
now
in
some
aspects
of
the
csfra
that
we
could
just
to
help
mountain
view,
and
I
think
that
is
not
in
pro
landlord
or
pro
tenant
sentiment.
That
is
just
a
general
sentiment.
G
We
should
suspend
this
provision
because
it's
hurting
mountain
view.
Okay,
then,
let's
do
it,
but
to
simply
say
now
we're
not
going
to
even
think
about
it
or
educate
ourselves
about
it
or
become
informed
about
it.
Instead
we're
just
going
to
obsessively
dismiss
this
and
not
act.
I
think
it's
an
educational
role
and
what
ourselves
become
informed
and
then
make
decisions,
but
you
don't
need
a
meeting
to
reflexively.
G
Just
off
the
cuff
decide
you
don't
want
to
do
something
we
can
just
phone
it
in.
We
don't
need
a
meeting,
so
have
a
meeting
educate
ourselves,
and
maybe
we
take
no
action,
but
it's
a
it's,
not
a
big
precedent
going
forward.
I
think,
to
just
simply
not
even
become
informed
about
an
important
issue,
an
issue
which
I
think
very
frankly
can
benefit
everyone.
In
mountain
view.
This
is
not
a
one-sided
thing.
G
I
think
there
are
many
things
that
tenants
could
find
in
the
csfra
right
now
that
they
will
point
to
and
say
you
know
what
suspending
that
for
six
months,
when
I
told
you
the
pandemic,
that
would
help
us,
so,
let's,
let's
think
it
through
the
next
meeting,
and
everyone
can
come
back
and
have
an
informed
decision
rather
than
doing
what.
In
my
mind,
people
said
things
are
anti-democratic,
this
intent,
I
don't
regret
it,
then
we're
not
going
to
even
debate
or
discuss
something
and
then
we're
just
going
to
reflexively
not
talk
about
it.
Thank.
C
You
may
I
ask
a
question:
go
right
ahead
committee
minute,
parter
desilla,
I'm
just
curious.
You
had
mentioned
initially
early
on
in
your
presentation
just
now.
The
idea
of
a
landlord
who've
informed
you
that
they
are
holding
units
off
the
market.
H
So
I
don't
think
that
there
is
an
answer
to
that
question.
Ultimately,
I
mean
what
1718
says
is
that
if
there's
going
to
be
a
suspension
that
the
rhc
has
to
conduct
its
own
survey
of
vacancies,
so
part
of
doing
that
survey
would
be
setting
the
parameters
of
what
constitutes
a
vacant
unit.
Very
good.
B
Yeah
I'll
lower
my
hand,
a
question
for
committee
member
haynes.
Let's
say
I
mean
I
I
think
I
agree,
I'm
agreeing
with
with
what
everyone
is
is
saying,
I'm
wondering
if,
and
I
agree
with
you
about
the
I
don't
think
it's
good
for
the
community
and
for
everyone
to
spend
their
monday
night
stressed
out
about
whether
the
csfra
is
it
will
be
suspended
and
I
think,
like
it's
not
right
like
the
message
here.
B
Is
it's
not,
but
I
I
do
understand
how
your
point
about
perception
is
reality.
Is
there
any
way
you
know
to
that?
We
could
scope
the
go
forward
plan
or
what
we're
approving
that
you'd
be
comfortable
with
approving
for
this
next
meeting
to
explore
that
communicates
clearly
like
what
what
our
intent
is
that
that
it's
not
for
potential
suspension.
It's
I
mean
it's
us
against
the
the
regs
here.
It's
not
us
against
the
landlord's
tenants
anything.
It's
just
like
us
against
the
text
that
was
accepted
as
part
of
the
original
document.
B
B
If
there's
an
opening,
I
mean
all
those
ideas
now
are
they
have
new
life,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if,
if
there's
a
way
like
get
your
concern
about
how
this
can
be
startling
for
for
the
public,
but
you
know,
could
we
craft
this
in
a
way
to
say
here's
why
we
are
we're
going
to
put
an
agenda
and
add
an
agenda
item
to
explore
what
our
options
are,
but
like
we're
not
going
to
take
action,
for
you
know
several
meetings
or
yeah,
I
guess
there
anything
that
would
work
for
you.
There.
C
If
you're
asking
me
specifically,
my
answer
is,
regretfully
not
because
I
genuinely
believe
that
sometimes
you
have
to
go
slow
on
matters,
because
it's
what
gives
comfort
to
others,
and
it
may
not
get
you,
and
I
don't
mean
I
don't
mean
you
personally,
I
mean
the
royal
you
it
may
not
get
what
that
individual
initially
wants,
which
is.
It
sounds
like
an
open
discussion
of.
How
would
we
do
this?
What
would
we
do?
What
might
we
be
able
to
tactically
change?
It
may
not
get
you
there.
C
It
may
not
get
us
there,
but
I
just.
I
believe
that
when
you
weigh
the
benefits
of
taking
this
action
right
now
versus
the
cost,
the
cost
outweigh
the
benefits
and
though
the
discussion
is
one
that
likely
should
be
had
at
some
point,
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
clarity
on
what
this
section
is
exists
for
how
the
survey
would
be
done.
What
the
point
to
point
for
the
annual
would
be
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
here,
but
I
just
truly
believe
in
life
that
sometimes
you
have
to
look
at
what.
C
C
Maybe
we're
not
what
I
personally
would
want
to
have
done,
but
we
go
slow
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
even
if
we
were
to
say
we
scope
it
out
x,
y
and
z,
we're
going
to
look
at
these
three
key
things.
I
think
you
have
one
of
two
outcomes:
either
you
look
at
the
three
key
things
and
staff
spends
a
lot
of
time
and
effort,
putting
together
a
report.
We
go.
C
C
I
would
a
litigation
risk
that
may
not
otherwise
be
there
of.
How
much
are
we
honor
bound
to
honor
our
word
if
we
say
today
we're
scoping
it
out
with
x,
y
and
z,
and
then
we
deviate
from
scope.
Do
we
have
litigation
risk
and
if
we
don't
have,
we
lost
credibility
in
the
eyes
of
the
community,
and
I
think
that
maintaining
our
credibility
in
the
eyes
of
the
community
and
maintaining
the
view
that
the
arts
see
as
an
organization
is
not
what
I
think
we
have
been
called
at
times.
C
A
kangaroo
court
and
other
negative
terminology
is
worth
more
to
me
than
looking
at
an
academic
discussion,
and
I
love
academic
discussions.
If
you
can't
tell-
and
I
really
enjoy
delving
into
like
how
would
we
do
something
if
we
do
it,
but
I
also
just
don't
think
this
is
the
right
time.
I
think
that
you
have
a
huge
surge
in
covet
right
now
in
the
community.
You
have
people
hearing
on
the
news
how
the
hospitals
are
going
to
be
at
capacity
and
people
could
be
turned
away.
C
C
Humanity
is
feeling
a
little
bit
more
confident
that
you
know
we're
going
to
continue
to
persist
on
this
earth
where
this
is
not
our
extinction,
that
we
shouldn't
talk
about
hey
what
does
this?
What
does
this
section
actually
mean?
How
would
this
work?
What
should
be
the
triggers?
You
know
those
are
great
discussions,
but
I
just
in
my
conversations
in
the
world
today,
people
seem
at
the
point
of
despair
and
to
add
to
that,
I
just
I
just
can't
do
it.
M
Yeah,
so
it
it
seems
to
me
that
we
are
going
beyond
the
scope
of
this
agenda
item,
because
I
want
to
give
credit
to
matthew
for
having
the
memory
about
what
was
what
it
was
we
put
into
that
proposal
of
changes,
and
I
would
be
happy
for
us
to
at
some
point
bring
that
back
up
and
see
what
things
given
the
parameters
of
the
pandemic
might
be
changeable
now,
but
that
what
we're
here
to
discuss
is
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
put
this
on
our
future
agenda,
and
I
I
love
the
idea
of
you-
know,
upgrading
and
fine-tuning
csfra
within
our
legal
limits.
M
I
agree
with
nicole
that
now
is
not
the
time
to
even
consider
it
and
I'm
not.
I.
I
do
believe
that
I'm
quite
well
educated
on
both
sides
of
the
issues.
It's
not
like
we
come
in
here
and
you
know
just
suddenly
look
at
both
the
public
comment
and
the
proposed
item.
I
I
think
that
the
timing
is
wrong.
There
may
be
opportunities
for
us
to
revise
elements
of
csfra,
but
I
just
feel
when
I
said
I
don't
want
to
consider
it.
I
I'm
trying
to
be
compassionate
to
the
community.
M
M
So
so
anyway,
that's
what
I
I
think
we
there
are
two
things:
let's
not
go
beyond
the
scope
of
this
particular
item:
let's
bring
it
back
and
and
make
a
decision.
A
All
right,
thank
you
vice
chair
almond,
if
there
are
no
other
comments,
I
will.
I
will
start
with
my
comments.
I
I
received
a
request.
A
A
But
this
time
where
we
are
so
many
people,
especially
so
many
people
are
becoming
so
vulnerable
and
by
losing
their
housing,
there
is
the
possibility
of
losing
your
life
and
under
no
circumstances
should
should
that
any
kind
of
wonk
or
or
technical
changes
or
or
anything
like
that,
should
nothing
should
be
above
that,
especially
when
we
are
asking
people
to
shelter
in
place.
How
can
people
shelter
in
place
if
you
do
not
feel
safe
in
their
own
home?
A
I
understand
that
you
want
to
just
start
the
process
and
see
the
what
if,
but
what,
if
is
terrifying
people.
But
what?
If
is
horrifying
people-
and
I
understand
I
think
I
think
this
might
be
a
a
one
of
the
byproducts
of
the
the
pandemic,
because
everyone
is
segmented
in
their
own
each
in
their
own
worlds.
They
they
won't
see
living
in
an
apartment
complex
where
people
are
having
trouble
making
their
rents
that
they
are
frantic
because
they
need
to
reach
out
to
csa
or
or
or
find
out
more
about.
A
The
eviction
moratorium,
which
has
been
changing.
The
whole
laws
that
have
governed
tenants
and
landlords
have
been
flipped
on
their
heads
in
just
a
short
amount
of
time
that
we
want
that.
We
want
to
take
a
look
and
tinker
now
during
so
much
chaos,
especially
in
this
level
of
the
law,
is
bad,
and
I
don't
think
you
intended
to
do
that.
But
I
think
because
we
are
all
segmented,
that
we
don't
see,
that
we
don't
see
that
there
are
parking
lots
full
of
people
trying
to
get
a
food
distribution
for
their
groceries.
A
You're
not
seeing
how
there
are
families
still
getting
rent
increases
during
this
time,
but
they're
at
least
limited
because
of
the
csfra.
So
I
couldn't
justify
putting
this
on
the
agenda.
A
A
And
that
was
anticipated
to
me.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
anticipated
for
you,
so
I
I
cannot
move
forward
with
this.
A
I
think
there
will
be
a
time
one
day.
I
I
really
do
believe
that
we
can
all
work
together
post
pandemic
and
find
a
way
out
of
our
housing
crisis,
whether
it
is
when
the
city
finally
builds
enough
units
or
or
whatnot,
but
this
is
not
that
time.
We
are
not
even
close
to
that
time.
A
H
G
I
will
move
to
add
this
item
to
the
next
agenda,
meaning
the
motion
is
that
the
item
currently
in
8.2
would
be
moved
to
the
next
meeting's
agenda
for
actual
discussion,
discussion
and
consideration
as
as
set
forth
in
the
initial
email.
Raising
this
issue.
A
Do
we
have
a
second.
B
I
guess
I'll
make
comments.
I
mean
again
for
the
sorry,
unless
someone
else
was
going
to
second
seems
like
where,
where
the
discussion
is
going,
that
it
wouldn't
pass
so
so
I
I
probably
won't
second
this
item,
you
know
again
for
public
perception
and
agreeing
with
committee
member
haynes,
let's
say
about
going
slowly,
but
I
won't
plan
to
see
that,
like
that,
that
you
know
some
of
the
issue
that
that
this
could
benefit
a
lot
of
different
parties.
One
of
them.
B
You
know
some
of
the
issues
that
we
had
with
the
csra
and
how
our
regs
for
mobile
homes
just
looked
kind
of
like
spaghetti
once
we
got
done
with
them
and
how
there
were
so
many.
You
know
discrepancies
with
the
text.
You
could
see
this
as
a
path
to
to
completely
separately
defining
mobile
homes
right.
So
there's
there's
something
in
this
for
a
lot
of
different
parties
and
when
you
sit
when
we
I
do
want
to
be
mindful
of
the
audience
and
the
public.
B
But
you
know
some
of
the
people
who
spoke
today
may
may
after
hearing
more
about
what
we've
been
discussing,
may
be
more
interested
in
this
item
and
taking
this
forward.
So
I
would
want
us
to
keep
open
minds
and
in
the
future
on
considering
this
because
our
window,
we
don't
know
what
our
window
will
be
here,
but
sorry
I
will
not
be
seconding.
The
motion.
A
Oh
okay,
so
since
the
motion
lasts
a
second,
the
motion
dies
on
the
floor
and
I
guess
we
move
on.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
On
this,
we
move
on
to
item
8.3
extension,
draft
regulations,
amending
chapter
three
rules
of
conduct
to
add
subsection
d
addressing
state
of
emergency,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
H
Yes,
I'll
be
doing
the
staff
presentation
so
next
slide,
so
the
regulation
that
is
being
proposed
to
you
as
we
propose
pursuant
to
the
authority
of
the
csfra,
which
is
the
fourth
in
section
1709
d2,
the
csfr,
the
csfa
it
was
drafted-
and
this
is
in
the
purposes
section
of
the
csfra
1701
for
a
variety
of
purposes.
But
the
significant
purpose
was
to
protect
against
the
negative
effects
of
displacement
that
results
from
no
fault,
evictions
and
rent
increases.
H
So
to
ensure
that
those
protections
remain
in
place,
what
is
being
proposed
is
that
a
subsection
d
be
added
to
chapter
3
of
the
regulations
and
essentially
subsection
d
would
prohibit
the
rhc
from
adopting
regulations
that
would
limit
or
suspend
the
protections
of
the
csf
csfra
during
a
state
of
emergency.
H
That's
either
declared
by
the
state
or
a
local
state
of
emergency
so
declared
by
the
city
or
the
county
to
the
extent
that
that
state
of
emergency
impacts
mountain
view.
So
currently
we
are
under
multiple
states
of
emergencies.
The
state
of
california
adopted
a
state
of
emergency
in
march,
and
then
the
city
of
mountain
view
followed
that.
H
H
Trying
to
prevent
displacement,
because,
particularly
during
a
state
of
emergency
related
to
a
pandemic
displacement
is
a
very
big
issue.
Keeping
people
in
their
homes
is
very
important,
so
staff
and
looking
at
this,
was
looking
at
ways
to
ensure
some
certainty
for
tenants
that
during
these
times,
that
really
rise
to
the
extraordinary
level
that
there's
an
assurance
that
tenants
will
be
protected,
and
it
is
a
little
bit
based
on
the
anti-price
gouging
laws
that
are
in
effect
in
the
state
of
california,
that
prohibit
anti-price.
H
So
we
are
currently
under
those
states
and
that
anti-price
gouging
right
now,
so
the
idea
was
to
somewhat
replicate
that
with
the
csfra
and
we
looked
at
it
also
in
terms
of
not
just
our
current
state
of
emergency,
but
there
are
a
variety
of
states
of
emergencies
that
can
be
declared.
H
That
will
have
a
significant
impact
on
renters
in
particular,
and
so,
for
instance,
we've
had
states
of
emergencies
declared
in
various
counties
around
the
state
of
california.
In
the
last
three
years
because
of
wildfires,
those
wildfires
have
had
an
extraordinary
impact
on
tenants,
because
this
housing
has
been
consumed
by
the
fires.
It
puts
more
pressure
on
the
housing
supply
and
then
puts
more
pressure
on
tenants.
So
it
was
also
with
issues
that
we
can't
even
predict
at
this
moment
trying
to
take
this
into
account.
H
So
you
have
before
you
would
draft
regulation,
that's
been
proposed
and
it's
we're
asking
you
either
to
provide
further
direction
or
to
adopt
the
resolution
approving
the
regulation.
A
You
miss
karen.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
committee
members,
a
committee
member
paul
zeller.
H
I
think
there's
a
response
to
a
variety
of
things,
maybe
partially
in
response
to
8.2,
but
I
also
think
it
is
a
response
of
sort
of
looking
at
the
ongoing
impacts
of
the
pandemic
on
people,
and
I
do
think
that
the
public
comment
that
we
heard
on
8.2
does
play
into
this.
A
little
people
are
fearful
of
what
is
happening
and
I
think
candidates
feel
very
insecure.
So
the
hope
is.
The
regulation
gives
some
sense
of
security
during
what
are
really
trying
times.
G
H
G
Is
this
a
little
big,
the
idea
that
I
mean
the
protections
of
the
csfra
I've
just
seen
that
as
written
that's
protections
are
afforded
to
both
landlords
and
tenants,
or
is
it
just
that's
attendance.
H
It
is
not
intended
to
be
vague,
but
the
reality
is.
The
csfo
was
really
adopted
to
protect
tenants,
and
that
is
the
primary
purpose.
If
you
go
through,
the
purpose
section
is
to
protect
tenants
from
rent
increases
and
eviction.
G
Do
we
anticipate
any
kind
of
litigation
over
this
kind
of
language
where,
in
the
future,
there
will
be
some
kind
of
matter
before
the
hearing
officer
or
before
us,
and
there's
going
to
be
arguments
about
whether
and
to
what
extent
there
were
you
know,
regulations
or
actions
that
a
conduct
that
took
away
the
protections
of
the
csfra,
because
it
seems
like
it's
broad
enough
that
certainly
that's
something
that
someone
can
invoke,
that
there's
some
kind
of
conduct
and
the
protections
of
the
csfra
were
violated
or
taken
away,
and
is
that
you
know
is
that
going
to
cause
some
problems
for
us.
H
I
would
not
anticipate
litigation.
I
think
this
is
well
within
the
rc's
purview.
G
Is
there
anything
right
now
in
the
csf
road
that
that
that
you
know
that
we
could
any
any
protection
that
we
could
otherwise
suspend
from
the
csr
csfra
other
than
what
we
have
in
section
1718,
so
meaning,
if
we're
not
going
to
even
consider
section
17-18,
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
is
necessary,
because
is
there
any
other
mechanism,
arguably
for
us,
as
a
committee,
to
take
any
kind
of
action
that
would
reduce
or
suspend
in
any
way
the
protections
of
the
csfra.
H
G
Okay,
is
there
a
principle
that,
generally
speaking,
a
committee
can't
take
certain
actions
that
will
the
future
makeup
of
the
community,
the
community
itself
from
taking
certain
actions
so
that
a
committee
can't
tie
its
own
hands
later
on
and
prevent
a
later
makeup
of
the
committee
from
taking
action?
Or
is
that
not
not
a
thing.
H
So
there
is
a
concept
for
city
councils
that
you
can't
tie
the
hands
of
future
city
councils.
That
primarily
applies
financial
and
fiscal
decisions,
but
this
isn't
I
mean
the
rhc
also
can
repeal
or
change
this
regulation
at
any
time.
So
it's
not
prohibiting
the
rhc
from
changing
this
regulation
should
it
desire.
B
I
I
think
a
lot
of
my
questions
were
similar
to
julian's
questions.
Maybe.
B
I
guess
in
the
rationalization
at
the
top
of
the
paragraph,
it's
it's,
you
know,
protections
from
excessive
rent
increases
and
no
fault
evictions,
and
I
was
just
wondering
you
know,
then
the
language
of
the
solution
to
that
problem
is
is
much
broader
to
julian's
comment,
and
maybe
maybe
karen.
The
question
is,
is
just
what's
the:
what's
the
rationale
behind
behind
making
it
broader
making
it
the
salute
the
order
more
broad,
but
having
a
more
well-defined
rationalization
for
that
at
the
top
of
paragraph.
H
You
know,
I
think
it
was
really
a
drafting
choice.
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
I
mean
it
certainly
could
be
narrow
to
those
two
items.
If
that's
what
the
uhc
wanted
to
do,
I
think
it
was
just
an
effort
to
make
the
protections
as
protective
as
possible.
C
Okay,
I
have
two
questions
that
are
gonna:
go
in
two
different
directions,
so
sorry
about
that.
First
of
all,
just
to
confirm
so
that
I
don't
feel
like
there's
unintended
consequences
not
talked
about
if
8.3
was
in
existence
when
we
had
discussed
8.1
or
even
in
the
main
meeting
when
we
discussed
the
prior
version
of
8.1
would
8.1
language
around
allowing
a
voluntary
reduction
in
rent
and
then
allowing
a
increase
of
rent
over
the
aga
fall
under
the.
C
H
C
H
C
H
Right,
so
the
intent
was
not
to
be
that
bad
reaching.
So
these
definitions
mirror
pretty
much
what's
in
the
anti-price
schedule.
H
Statutes,
okay
and
you
know
in
looking
at
the
various
states
of
emergency
for
the
most
part,
particularly
the
ones
for
the
state
of
california,
are
to
very
specific
in
limited
areas
when
they
are
declared
sure
it's
not
that
common
to
have
a
statewide
state
of
emergency.
H
C
But
so
just
to
kind
of
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
down
a
rabbit
hole
a
little
bit
here.
Sorry,
for
example,
this
the
federal
state
of
emergency
for
h1n1
in
09
into
10..
That
would
or
would
not
trigger
this,
because
that
would.
H
C
A
A
A
All
right,
so
we
have
eight
hands
so
three
minutes.
Let's
start
with
scott.
X
Hayden,
it's
hayden
hayden.
X
It's
okay,
no
problem,
so
yeah
scott
hayden.
Again,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
would
encourage
grudenwald
and
pardo
desella
to
educate
themselves
on
their
own
time,
instead
of
working
to
float
those
absurd
arguments
that
we've
heard
from
them
tonight.
When
I
want
to
explore
computer
science,
I
don't
do
it
by
jamming
a
screwdriver
into
my
laptop.
Neither
should
you
be
exploring
your
options
by
tabling
official
motions
to
consider
suspending
rent
control
at
this
precarious
time.
X
If,
as
you
say,
landlords
are
withholding
units
because
they
don't
they
want
to
keep
their
high.
Their
price
is
high.
During
all
this.
Clearly,
those
landlords
aren't
hurting
that
bad
because
they
can
afford
to
sit
on
empty
units
and
take
in
no
rent
in
the
meantime.
So
clearly
they
don't
need
it,
which
is
good
to
know
this.
Prior
testimony
to
me
proves
that
a
far
better
use
of
everyone's
time
here
tonight
would
be
to
consider
states
of
emergency.
X
We
need
to
make
sure
we
take
in
all
the
surrounding
issues
into
account,
such
as
a
deadly
pandemic,
mass
unemployment,
a
pending
tidal
wave
of
evictions
and
landlords
openly
bragging
to
committee
members
about
keeping
units
at
empty
to
artificially
raise
their
prices.
If
we
had
that
up
front,
we
could
have
saved
ourselves
all
a
ton
of
time
separately.
X
A
Thank
you,
mr
hayden.
Kevin.
W
Mah,
hello,
our
team
members,
my
name
is
kevin
mom
in
a
more
just
and
perfect
world.
We
wouldn't
need
this,
because
the
body
would
be
following
the
will
of
the
people
and
making
sure
that
rent
control
is
maintained
properly,
so
that
people
can
have
a
community.
They
can
stay
in
regardless
of
the
states
of
emergency,
because
we
will
find
more
emergencies
in
the
future,
whether
it's
an
earthquake,
another
pandemic,
it
could
be
anything
but
at
the
end
of
day,
people
still
need
places
to
live
and
until
the
housing
crisis
has
changed.
W
As
such,
it
is
a
good
idea
for
the
rc
to
self-adopt.
This
codification
says
regulations
to
make
it
clear
to
renters
that
in
the
future,
if
anything,
bad
happens
again,
that
the
rc
would
be
on
their
side
rather
than
making
motions
like
the
previous
one
that
showed
up
and
not
have
to
fight
every
fight.
W
Just
to
maintain
the
protections
that
were
proposed
and
fought
for
by
a
long
campaign
battle
against
large
corporations
that
still
monitor
our
local
elections
this
day,
running
packs
and
stuff
like
this,
as
if
we're
san
jose
too,
which
is
which
is
not
what
I
really
want.
So
I
support
the
recommendation
and
you're
my
time.
T
T
Well
tonight,
you've
heard
a
number
of
renters
tell
you
to
take
your
hands
off
the
csfra
and
do
not
make
changes.
Now
you
need
to
talk
less
and
listen
more
man.
This
is
basic
public
service
and
basic
leadership
get
a
clue
vote
yes
on
8.3
to
all
the
other
committee
members.
This
is
a
smart
recommendation
from
staff.
The
rental
housing
committee
should
not
make
this
complicated.
This
isn't
a
new
law
and
it
isn't
a
change
to
the
csfra.
T
T
This
won't
impair
any
future
rental
housing
committee
or
tie
their
hands,
and
karen
laid
it
out
very
well
so
pass
this
resolution
to
say
that
you
recognize
the
need
for
the
csfra
during
the
state
of
emergency
vote.
Yes,
on
8.3
recommendation
as
written
and
just
get
on
with
the
meeting
thanks,
I'm
done.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
tim.
I
use
he
him
pronouns,
and
I
just
I
want
to
thank
someone
who
spoke
earlier
and
they
they
were
brilliant.
They
suggested
apparently
in
their
email,
suggested,
considering
this
one
before
item
8.2,
and
I
wish
that
you
had
done
that,
because
then
we
only
would
have
wasted
half
of
our
evenings
instead
of
the
whole
evening,
and
then
staff
could
have
gone
home
earlier
after
their
nice
presentation.
P
This
is,
I
mean
this
seems
like
a
no-brainer.
It
we're
in
a
pandemic.
These
aren't
normal
times
like
I
thank
you
for
putting
this
together
staff.
I
hope
that
you
vote
for
this,
and
I
wish
you
had
considered
it
earlier
so
that
we
all
could
have
stopped
staring
at
our
screens
earlier.
Thank
you.
I
yield
my
time.
R
R
I
should
point
out:
I
am
the
current
president
of
the
mountain
view:
mobile
home
alliance,
you've
probably
heard
from
my
predecessor,
trey
borman
a
number
of
times.
Many
of
us
remember
when
the
committee
was
told
by
staff
that
they
could
cover
mobile
homes
and
they
did
not.
They
chose
to
take
the
side
of
the
landlords.
They
were
worried
about
the
actions
of
landlords
and
what
might
happen
to
the
landlords,
no
renter
or
tenant
in
mountain
view
should
consider
that
the
committee
will
definitely
act
in
favor
of
tenants
and
not
in
favor
of
landlords.
R
Furthermore,
the
idea
that
any
sort
of
temporary
five
percent
vacancy
rate
could
be
used
to
protect
mobile
homes
as
an
argument
is,
is
laughable
and
insulting
to
those
of
us
who
have
been
here
watching
the
actions
of
the
committee
over
the
past
several
years.
Thank
you.
I
yield
my
time.
V
Hi
yeah,
I.
M
M
M
Help
with
we
have
been
going
down
rabbit
holes,
as
tim,
just
described,
for
a
long
time
with
the
rental
housing
committee.
So
I
really
appreciate
this
you're
going
to
this
trouble
steph.
It
has
been
great,
the
red
housing
committee
staff
and
karen.
This
is
all
great
stuff.
So,
yes,
I
I
think
it
shouldn't
be
necessary.
M
I
agree
with
every
single
person
who
has
talked
about
this,
but
as
long
as
it
is
here
and
as
long
as
we
know
that
the
need
is
there,
I
hope
that
the
committee
will
simply
vote
yes
on
8.3
yeah.
It
should
go
through
it's
important
and
we
need
it.
Thank
you.
I
yield
my
time.
AB
AB
Of
the
csfra,
it's.
AB
AB
It's
unbelievable,
it's
unbelievable
that
you
know
folks
are
serving
on
this
body
with
such
plain
bad
intentions
and
I
think
8.3.
AB
Would
be
a
symbol
that
the
other
members
of
the
committee
are
trying
to
repair
that
damage.
You
have
my
time.
Landlords
aren't
real,
but
not
everyone.
S
Hi,
thank
you.
I
generally
support
this
measure,
this
adopting
these
regulations,
and
you
know
because
they
can
be
changed
in
the
future.
They
do
have
some
flexibility.
S
This
has
been
a
somewhat
philosophical
evening
in
some
ways
and
there's
one
phrase
in
the
draft
regulation
that
I
keep
coming
back
to
that
troubles
me
during
a
state
of
emergency
or
local
emergence
or
state
emergency
or
local,
addressing
the
impacts
of
such
an
emergency,
provided
such
regulations
or
actions
do
not
reduce
the
protections
provided
by
the
csfra.
S
I
think
the
csfra
provides
protections
to
both
landlords
and
to
renters,
and
so
this
might
almost
tie
hands
unless
it's
clarified
that
we're
talking
about
do
not
reduce
the
protections
provided
to
renters
by
the
csfra.
S
How
can
you
have
an
eviction
moratorium
without
reducing
the
right
of
landlords
to
evict?
You
know
they
have
some
eviction
options
still
for
non-payment,
for
example,
and
or
primarily
so,
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
comfortable
with
the
precise
wording,
but
I'm
very
comfortable
with
the
intent
of
this
resolution.
Thank
you.
E
Hi,
like
I
said
before,
I've
been
a
resident
in
mountain
view
for
about
25
or
26
years,
have
rented
during
that
whole
time
and
been
a
real
member
of
the
community.
I
really
appreciated
what
edie
just
said,
because
this
is
in
some
ways
new
to
me.
I
just
heard
about
this
through
tim,
letting
me
know
that
it
was
happening.
So
you
know
I
need
to.
E
I
want
to
learn
more,
but
I
really
appreciate
how
the
committee
just
voted
to
not
accept
the
8.2,
which
seemed
tacitly
and
just
without
you
know,
any
kind
of
apology
to
be
causing
harm
to
to
vulnerable
people.
I'm
not
saying
that
there's
not
things
for
me
to
be
educated
about,
but
I
felt
sir,
that
you're
a
comment
to
constantly
to
say
we
should
be
educated.
E
My
parents,
I
know,
brought
me
up
to
to
to
learn
that
it's
not
right
to
do
things
that
do
harm
to
vulnerable
people
when
and
particularly
in
circumstances
where
they're
even
more
vulnerable.
E
So
I
was
really
grateful
that
8.2
was
passed
on
and-
and
I
again
I
just
appreciate
what
edie
just
said
about-
maybe
the
specific
language
of
8.3,
but
I
also
feel
that
it
is
there's
a
it
says
to
consider
draft
regular
sorry
to
consider
draft
regulations
regarding
hrc
actions
during
a
state
of
emergency
or
a
local
emergency,
and
I
just
think
about
that
word
consider.
It
means
to
look
at
something
carefully.
It
means
to
take
into
account.
It
means
to
show
consideration
for,
and
sometimes
it
can
mean
to
consider
or
to
regard.
E
So
I
feel
that
this
this
particular
8.3
is
is
a
way
for
us
to
demonstrate
that
we're.
We
have
a
conscience,
and
we
know
that
we're
in
a
perilous
time
that
we
will
come
out
of,
but
we
can't
say
that
with
all
certainty
right
now,
so
I'm
grateful
I'm
grateful
for
that
sense
of
conscience.
A
Thank
you,
charles
next
up
we
have
anna
marie
morales.
Q
Hi
there
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
that
spoke
before
me,
thanks
staff
for
all
of
their
continued
hard
work,
I
really
loved
what
tim,
larson
and
b
hanson
had
to
say.
I
completely
second
everything
they
said.
Please
pass
this
regulation,
it
is
needed.
We
are
scared.
Q
This
is
incredibly
emotional
for
some
people
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
people
actually
use
their
hearts
and
their
minds,
because
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do
to
pass
this
regulation
and
give
us
some
veil
of
hope.
Because,
honestly,
a
lot
of
us
have
lost
hope
in
the
rhc
and
our
city
council.
So
please
do
the
right
thing
and
help
us.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Z
Thank
you
bruce
lewin
for
mountain
view
coalition
for
sustainable
planning,
very
simply,
based
on
our
comments
for
8.2.
We
would
urge
you
to
adopt
the
resolution
and
as
far
as
education
and
that
sort
of
thing
there
could
be
opportunities
for
that.
Z
That
would
mean
crafting
the
agenda
items
very
carefully
to
say
what
the
intentions
are
and
to
honor
staff
time,
because
we
all
know
that
that's
pretty
tight
these
days
and
to
respect
the
community
and
to
not
try
to
set
something
up
that
will
really
not
be
in
the
best
interest
of
stakeholders,
but
I
agree
that
having
education
opportunities
would
be
good,
are
good.
The
city
council
has
study
sessions
all
the
time
just
to
get
educated
on
matter,
so
I
can
see
an
opportunity
there,
but
it
just
would
have
to
be
handled
very
very
carefully.
Thank.
I
Y
U
U
All
this
will
do
is
require
one
extra
vote
when
trying
to
reduce
or
suspend
in
any
way
the
protections
of
the
csfra.
When
there's
a
recognized
emergency,
why
would
you
want
to
keep
it
easy
to
try
to
reduce
protections
we've
seen
tonight
that
we
can't
count
on
the
consciences
of
the
committee
members
also
tim
change.
Your
smoke
detector
battery.
V
A
Right
so
emotion
is
in
order,
but
if
anyone
wants
to
speak
first,
we
can
handle
that
now.
For
council
comments.
Council
committee
comments
committee,
member
haines
livesay
go
ahead.
C
So
edie's
commentary
or
comment
kind
of
touched
on
what
I
think
I
was
trying
to
get
to
in
my
questions
to
karen
and
staff
around
making
sure
that
we
don't
write
ourselves
into
a
whole.
I
guess
twofold.
I
would
question
whether
we
need
to
have
the
federal
state
of
emergency
involved.
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
what
the
feds
normally
declare
a
state
of
emergency
for
if
it's,
if
it's
something
that's
pertinent,
the
state
is
going
to
pick
it
up.
C
C
So
I
just
think
we
want
to
be
tactical
and
clear
in
that
language
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
we're
we're
damned
if
we
do
damned,
if
we
don't
so,
if
we
could
just
think
about
a
way
to
do
that,
I
would
appreciate
it,
but
otherwise
I,
like
the
regulation.
B
Thank
you
yeah,
I
mean
I,
I
share
edie's
sentiment
and
a
lot
of
what
nicole
mentioned.
You
know,
particularly
litigation.
So
I
wonder,
I
think,
what
the
particularly
after
the
last
item,
what
the
benefit
of
this
is
or
if
the
primary
benefit
is,
is
public
kind
of
perception
or
or
yeah.
B
I
I
just
like
so
that
the
first
paragraph
of
the
cfra
right
you
know,
I
know
that
the
clause
for
fair
return
for
landlords
has
to
be
in
there
legally,
and
so,
if
we
are,
are
we
just
putting
ourselves
in
jeopardy
by
having
a
broad
statement
to
say
you
know
we
won't
reduce
or
suspend
protections,
one
we're
not
sure
if
that
actually
both
already
includes
landlords
and
and
tenants,
but
then
also
if
it
is
just
intended
to
be
tenants,
you
know,
could
someone
sue
us
over
this,
which
is
largely
a
statement
of
confidence
or
to
to
boost
confidence
of
the
rhc,
and
does
that
get
us
in
some
sort
of
hot
water?
B
The
risk
reward-
I
guess,
is
unclear
to
me
here
and
so,
if
you
want
to
make
it,
if
you
want
to
make
the
language
more
targeted
or
to
include
you
know,
say
I'm
not
sure
actually,
but,
but
I
I
just
don't,
I
don't
see
the
utility
of
this
also
specifically
having
it
being
at
the
federal
level.
You
know.
Sometimes
you
can
have.
I
know
that
the
threat
levels
after
september
11th
were
you,
know,
constantly
high
and
that
may
be
a
mechanism
to
get
funding
right.
B
B
I
don't
think
the
utility
is
clear
but
happy
to
subscribe
to
a
statement
of
intent,
but
not
necessarily
to
entire.
C
C
I
would
question
whether
a
state
of
emergency
related
to
a
computer
crime
of
that
nature
is
really
what
we're
trying
to
protect
against
here.
I
really
think
we're
trying
to
go
in
the
direction
more
in
the
beginning
of
the
definition
around
earthquake,
fire
flood
riot
storm
disease,
epidemic
pandemic,
or
government
action
in
response
to
an
epidemic
or
pandemic.
B
And
maybe
karen
sorry,
nicole,
you
know
just
thinking
through
this
a
little
bit
more,
maybe
a
question
for
karen
per
the
conversation
about
about
8.1
and
had
you
know
like
if
we
wanted
to
pass
8.1
and
maybe,
if
we
weren't
sure,
if
this
had
been
in
place,
would
we
be
able
to
pass
that
tactically?
Would
we
just
have
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
beforehand
and
just
need?
B
We
just
need
three
votes
to
overturn
this
and
then,
if
you,
you
would
purportedly
have
the
three
votes
for
the
next
item
that
you
could
say.
Okay,
now,
you
know
we're
going
to
pass
this
new
reg.
Is
that
really
all
this
does
because
then
someone
move,
we
just
have
to
reverse
it
and
then
pass
that
next
thing,
assuming
if
you
have
the
votes
for
something
you
have
the
votes
for
this.
H
Yes,
to
some
extent
that
is
accurate,
you
only
need
three
votes
to
adopt
regulations
and
you
only
need
three
votes
to
repeal
regulations.
So
you
know,
as
I
was
saying,
with
8.1,
I
think
you
need
to
make
findings
without
it
being
more
protective,
and
I
do
think
that
some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
made
are
good
comments.
If
you
want
to
know
what
it
means
to
be
protective,
you
know
that
might
provide
more
clarity
as
to
what
you
can
and
cannot
do
in
the
future
under
this
regulation.
B
Sorry
my
question
was,
or
my
point
for
the
for
the
committee
I
guess
would
be
you
know
we
could
talk
through
all
the
edge
cases.
But
ultimately,
if
there's
something
that
we
as
a
committee
want
to
pass,
you
know,
then
then
we
would
always
have
that
backstop
this
stuff.
I
guess
it
doesn't
necessarily
tie
our
hands.
So
it's
more
of
a
statement
to
to
the
public,
and
then
it
seems
that
I
don't
know
if
we
have
to
go
through
all
the
edge
cases
to
make
it
as
tight.
A
All
right
any
more
hands.
I
do
not
see
any
more
hands
raised
by
sure
almond
committee
member
paradise.
Did
you
have
any
comments?
No,
so
I
will
go
into
my
comments.
I'm
glad
staff
put.
A
Item
I
feel
like
8.3
is
a
way
that
we
can
assure
the
members
of
the
community
we're
not
coming
after
this
and
it.
It
is
understandable
for
many
members
of
the
community
to
feel
super
defensive
about
this
law,
because
it's
a
new
law
there
have
been
attempts
to
modify
it
in
ways
that
many
have
disagreed
with.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
fit
effort.
I
I
actually
really
hope
that
we
can
get
this
unanimously
so
that
we
can
we
can.
A
The
public
can
rest
assured
it'd
be
more
like
a
merry
christmas
or
happy
hanukkah
or
kwanzaa,
I'm
not
entirely
sure
of
the
other
holidays
festivus.
We
could
air
our
grievances
with
a
poll.
Yes,
but
this
is
really,
I
think,
the
an
effort
to
to
to
let
people
know
times
times
like
this.
A
A
Suspicion,
so
I'm
really
hoping
that
we
can
get
a
a
unanimous
vote
on
this
motion.
I
understand
I
am.
A
I
am
comfortable
reading
the
let's
see
what
is
the
script
thing,
a
motion
to
adopt
regulations
regarding
rental
housing,
committee
actions
during
a
state
of
emergency
or
a
local
emergency,
and
either
one
provide
for
or
further
direction
to
staff
or
a
doctor
resolution
approving
the
regulation
so
I'm
willing
to
adopt.
I
I'm
willing
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
regulations.
A
I'm
I'm
open
to
changes.
I
I
think
I've
heard
some
possible
changes,
so
I
will
leave
that
there
for
a
second.
If
anyone
wants
to
second
that
I
have
a
hand
raised
by
committee.
Member
grunwald.
B
A
Seeing
a
new
second,
my
emotion
dies
on
the
floor.
Does
anyone
want
to
make
a
new
motion.
H
That
may
be,
and
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
categorize
these
so
where
it
says
the
rhc
shall
not
adopt
any
regulation
or
take
any
action
that
would
reduce
or
suspend
in
where
the
protections
of
the
csfra
may
be,
adding
from
the
protections
related
to
excessive
rent
increases
or
no
fault
evictions
of
the
csfra
and
then
adding
similar
language
to
the
last
sentence
that
the
nothing
hearing
shall
prevent
the
hc
from
adopting
regulations
and
taking
actions
during
a
state
of
emergency
or
a
local
emergency,
specifically
addressing
the
impacts
of
such
an
emergency.
H
Provided
such
regulations
or
actions
do
not
reduce
the
protections
from
excessive
warranty
increases
and
no
fault.
Evictions.
Remember
that
with
cfra-
and
I
also
heard
from
committee
member
haynes
lifts,
though,
that
under
the
definition
of
state
of
emergency,
we
would
take
out
emergencies
declared
by
the
president
of
the
united.
C
M
I'm
sorry
it's
getting
late
and
I
didn't
I
meant
to
second
emily's
motion
and
I
I
just
I
looked
up
and
went.
Oh,
my
god.
I
blew
it.
So
I'm
sorry
I
do
want
to
second.
It.
A
I
will
try
again
to
make
the
motion
and
then
then
we
can
work
go
from
there,
so
I
moved
to
adopt
regulations
regarding
rental
housing
committee
actions
during
a
state
of
emergency
or
a
local
emergency,
and
to
adopt
a
resolution
of
proving
the
regulation.
M
C
C
I
just
feel
that
the
federal
side
has
so
much
there's
so
much
more
going
on,
and
it's
so
easy
to
use
that
valve
on
the
federal
level
and
declare
a
state
of
emergency
and
say,
oh
for
x,
y
z,
reason
we're
doing
x,
y
z,
and
I
just
I
I
don't
I
get.
I
guess
I
can't
foresee
a
situation
in
which
something
that
is
actually
impacting
our
community
would
not
be
declared
a
state
of
emergency
by
either
the
state
of
california
or
mountain
view
itself.
A
So
the
I'm
just
the
amendment
to
the
motion
is
just
to
exclude
a
federal
state
of
emergency.
Yes,
but
if
we
would
still
be
covered
under
state
and
local
correct,
that
would
be
my
amendment
all
right.
Then
I
accept
that
amendment
this
vice
chairman.
Do
you
accept
the
amendment?
I
do
all
right.
Any
other
comments.
B
I'd
also
like
to
make
amendment
to
or
ask
for
an
amendment
to
put
in
the
text
that
that
karen
recommended
for
just
specifying
excessive
rent
increases
and
no
fault
evictions.
Being
you
know,
specifically
what
we're
defending
protecting.
H
Yeah
I
mean,
if
that's
acceptable,
to
the
maker
of
the
motion
in
the
secondary.
We
would
insert
the
language
in
two
places.
The
first
place
would
be
towards
the
end
of
the
first
sentence,
where
it
says
the
uhc
shall
not
adopt
any
regulations
or
take
any
action
that
would
reduce
or
suspend
in
any
way
the
protections
from
excessive
rent
increases
or
no
fault
evictions
of
the
csfa
and
then
to
put
that
same
language
in
the
second
sentence
after
the
word
protections.
A
I
accept
that,
if
I
share
do
you
accept
that.
A
A
No
problem,
I
I
I
think
we
may
have
festivaled
it
to
death.
Okay,
that's
the
best
to
death.
So
if
andrea,
if
you
can
call
I'm
calling
the
question
on
andrea,
if
you
can
call
the
roll
call
vote.
A
Thank
you
so
much
to
everyone.
We
are
at
item
10.
We
are
at
1006
right
now
and
we
have
two
more
items
left.
I
think
we
need
to
do
8.4,
but
we
can
choose
to
continue
8.5,
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
continue
8.5
to
a
future
date.
G
A
All
right,
so
we
are
moving
on
to
item
8.4.
8.5
has
been
moved
to
a
future
date,
so
we
will
start
a
quarterly
financial
expenditures:
fiscal
year
2020
to
21
through
september
30th
2020.
F
Yes,
I
will
try
to
be
quick.
Our
quarterly
financial
expenditures
is
being
put
on
the
agenda
at
the
request
of
the
rental
housing
committee
to
monitor
budget
versus
actuals
and
we're
going
to
review
the
quarterly
financial
expenditures
through
september
30
of
2020.
F
14.9
is
expended
of
the
personnel
budget
and
this
is
below
budget
due
to
the
vacant
position
of
the
administrative
assistant
and
some
were
performed
and
charged
to
other
topics
related
to
the
cdd
department,
such
as
eviction,
moratorium
and
rent
relief
for
the
non-personnel
budget.
2.56
is
expanded
and
81.31
is
encumbered.
This
includes
all
professional
services.
F
It's
below
budget
way
below
budget.
I
may
add
to
the
later
quality
billing
of
service
providers
lower
than
anticipated
legal
fees
and
fewer
petition
hearing
requests.
F
I
do
want
to
add
that
we
are
very
happy
that
we
still
have
that
budget
because
they
are
still
working
on
further
implementation
of
our
database.
Then
we
arrive
at
innofant
expenditures
and
transfers.
This
usually
happens
at
the
end
of
december
halfway
through
the
fiscal
year,
so
you
will
be
seeing
this
expanded
in
the
next
quarter.
F
As
you
can
see,
we're
way
below
budget.
I
think
in
the
next
quarter
we
will
catch
up
with
some
of
the
invoicing
and
the
expenses
that
were
charged
to
us
after
the
first
quarter
was
over.
B
Sure
I'll
make
this
quick.
Thank
you
anki.
I'm
just
wondering
you
know,
based
on
what
you're,
seeing
so
far.
B
If
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
significantly
lower
the
fee
next
next
time,
obviously
we
have
some
time
until
then,
but
just
your
initial
take
on
where
this
puts
us
with
our
reserve
and
how
things
are
trapped.
F
Yeah
so
previously
the
real
housing
committee
decided
to
put
15
of
their
budget
towards
the
reserve
and
they
accomplished
that
reserve
already,
so
you
don't
have
to
put
more
into
the
reserve
unless
you
take
a
a
new
decision
to
even
up
the
reserves.
I
think
the
first
quarter
was
not
a
normal
quarter.
F
A
A
F
Go
well,
I
just
want
to
just
be
cautious
and
say:
let's
wait
and
see
for
the
following
quarters
to
see
how
it
all
pans
out
before
we
start
jumping
into
conclusions.
This
is
just
the
first
quarter
of
the
year,
so
it
was
a
very
unprecedented
situation
with
a
lot
of
things
suspended,
and
I
would
definitely
want
to
see
the
next
quarter
before
we
start.
You
know
going
into
conclusions.
A
M
Was
just
wondering
whether
we've
decided
not
to
hire
an
admin,
because
this
has
been
open
for
quite
some
time.
F
F
I
have
I
I
haven't
mentioned
that
before,
but
we
hired
attempt
last
month
to
help
us
a
little
bit
with
all
the
administrative
items
that
can
be
handled
because
we're
all
making
a
lot
of
overtime
this
past
quarter
and
this
quarter
and
that
that
really
provided
some
relief
for
us.
So
that's
how
we're
trying
to
solve
this
interim
situation.
F
For
it,
as
you
may
yeah,
so
as
you
may
maybe
remember
the
staffing
discussions
in
the
beginning
when
the
rental
housing
committee
just
started
up,
personnel
still
runs
through
the
city
and
we
are
still
city
employees
and
we're
still
part
of
cdd,
so
hr
wise.
We
we
fall
under
the
city,
we
fall
under
the
city
procedures
and
rank
order,
but
having
our
own
budget
was
made
it
easier
for
us
to
hire
the
temp
at
least
because
we
didn't
have
to
wait
for
capacity
to
open
up
an
hr
to
go
after
this
vacancy.
A
All
right,
we
have
another
hand
up
by
vice
chair
allman,.
M
No,
she
just
answered
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
we
that
was
just
committee
questions.
We
will
now
go
to
public
comment.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
M
A
Thank
you
vice
chair
allman
committee
member
haynes,
lucey.
A
A
So
thank
you
for
that
and
if
there
are
no
other
comments,
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
item.
We
are
skipping
8.5,
so
we
are
now
moving
to
nine
item
nine
councils,
committee
staff
and
reports,
and
we
have
nine
point.
One
monthly
act,
activity
report
october
november,
2020.
N
Good
evening,
everyone
item
9.1
is
our
monthly
status
reports
for
october
and
november.
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
really
quick.
They
are
going
to
be
available
tomorrow
online
in
english
and
spanish,
and
you
can
see
the
overview
for
october
here
and
then
I'll
go
a
relatively
high
level
overview
through
november,
and
this
is
november.
N
N
We've
had
quite
a
few
lease
questions
and
obviously
eviction
protection
questions,
and
you
can
see
that
for
the
coven
19
related
subset,
so
we
actually
do
pull
the
numbers
that
are
specific
to
covid19
related
queries
for
his
fra
units
and
the
eviction,
moratorium
and
inability
to
pay
rent
are
the
highest
categories.
Right
now,
with
the
most
amount
of
questions,
we've
done,
10
community
workshops
remotely
with
71
attendees
held
18
clinics
with
19
attendees.
N
N
Excuse
me
one
moment
for
mediations
and
conciliations
we've
had
57,
45
of
which
have
been
resolved
with
nine
pending,
and
this
is
a
great
service
that
we
just
had
two
workshops
about.
So
going
back
to
the
workshops,
we
actually
had
a
workshop
in
november
for
landlords
about
mediation
for
landlord
tenant
issues
and
then
last
week
we
had
one
for
tenants
and
it
was
bilingual.
English,
spanish.
N
We've
seen
two
no
fault
notices
and
one
at
fault
notice,
for
failure
to
give
access
and
we've
had,
as
you
can
see
here,
an
increase
in
failure
to
paint
rent
notices,
which
is
expected
because
the
statewide
eviction
moratorium
requires
that
landlords
give
them
to
tenants.
N
Excuse
me:
we've
had
49
households
that
have
received
assistance
through
the
tenant,
relocation
services
and
four
units
have
been
affected
and
there's
been
one
property
that
has
gone
into
redevelopment
in
2020.
N
N
N
And
the
same
is
true:
for
average
market
rent,
all
types
of
units
have
been
affected
by
coven,
19,
related
challenges
and
right
now
for
fully
covered
units.
The
rent
is
about
2
394
dollars
a
month
when
a
unit
goes
on
market.
N
We've
had
four
properties
sell
for
this
year:
one
property
sold
for
this
year
with
four
units
and
there
are
currently
seven
properties
on
the
market
for
a
total
of
105
units.
N
C
I'm
just
curious
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
tonight,
but
at
some
point
could
we
get
an
update
on
how
the
registration
of
the
units
is
going
on
the
website
so
that
we
know
how
that
project
is
going
before
february.
N
Was
all
we
can
definitely
do
that?
I
think
andrea
has
that
information
pretty
accessible
and
we
can
have
that
for
the
next
meeting.
A
Wonderful,
I
had
a
quick
question
about
the
bilingual
workshop.
Do
you
have
you
noticed
any
patterns
or
were
there
questions
that
seemed
unique
to
that
particular
community
as
opposed
to
the
english
speaking
community.
N
Coordinated
with
the
city
manager's
office,
specifically
for
the
eviction
moratorium,
which
has
also
really
helped
get
the
word
out
about,
run
stabilization,
the
rent
relief
program
that
the
city
is
running
for
covet
19
and
just
generally
improved
our
ability
to
reach
the
community.
So
we
are
now
meeting
with
the
school
districts
once
a
month.
N
We
are
attending
remotely
their
some
of
their
parent
meetings
at
least
once
a
month,
we've
also
been
meeting
with
the
spanish
leadership
academy
to
help
kind
of
knock
down
some
of
those
barriers
to
access
and
information,
and
that
has
increased
attendance
through
our
workshops
as
well
we've,
as
I
mentioned
last
last
time,
we
met
we've
started
holding
by
at
least
one
bilingual
workshop.
N
The
goal
is
every
few
months.
So
when
we
have
tenant
workshops,
we
want
them
to
be
bilingual
specifically
to
ensure
that
our
most
vulnerable
community
members
are
being
reached
and
what
we've
mostly
had
questions
about
when
if
we
are
talking
specifically
about
eviction
moratorium,
which
is
where
we've
held
the
most
of
our
bilingual
workshops,
we've
had
a
lot
of
questions
around.
N
N
We've
also
seen
questions
related
to
the
lease
breaks
and,
and
just
how
do
they
talk
to
their
property
owner
in
general,
so
those
aren't
any
different
than
anyone
else
in
the
community
who
is
experiencing
this
issue
right
now
and
and
to
clarify.
I
have
specifically
asked
the
rental
housing
helpline
if
we've
received
a
lot
of
inquiries
about
harassment
and
and
challenges
in
that
world-
and
we
have
not-
we
have
not
seen
an
uptick
in
that,
so
that
is
being
tracked.
It
just
is
is
not
something
that
we're
experiencing
right
now,.
A
N
This
is
the
the
only
people
who
have
to
who
are
required
to
send
us
termination
notices
are
those
covered
by
the
csfra
right.
So
not
every
rental
in
mountain
view
is
covered
by
the
csfra,
which
means
that
we
don't
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what's
happening
in
single-family
homes,
duplexes,
townhomes
and
condos,
or
even,
for
example,
you
know
rooms
that
people
are
retained.
We
have
clear,
hopefully
if
people
are
following
the
regulations
and
the
law,
we
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what's
happening
in
csf
or
a
covered
units,
but
other
than
that.
A
N
We
would
have
to
coordinate
that
with
csa
and
see
if
that
is
something
that
we
can,
we
can
cross-reference,
but
just
because
you're
applying
for
rent
relief
does
not
mean
that
you've
applied
for
protections
under
the
eviction
moratorium,
so
the
failure
to
pay
rent
notices
that
the
reason
why
we're
seeing
a
spike
between
what
happened
in
queue,
q4
of
1920
and
what's
happening
now
at
the
end
of
q1
of
2021
and
q2
of
2021,
is
that
originally
the
city's
eviction
moratorium?
N
You
couldn't
you
couldn't
give
and
people
weren't,
giving
those
eviction
notices
under
the
state
law.
The
landlords
are
required
to
give
a
15-day
eviction
notice
for
tenants
to
be
able
to
then
request
the
protections
under
the
city's
law
under
the
city's
past
eviction
moratorium,
the
tenants
self-selected,
they
said-
hey
we're
affected
by
this
right.
N
A
All
right,
that
is
all
my
questions.
A
D
D
All
right
so
we'll
start
with
the
eviction
war
torum.
So
the
eviction
mortar
is
still
in
place
and
it
is
in
place
right
now
until
january,
31st
of
2021.
I
D
The
landlord
would
provide
the
termination
notice,
along
with
the
declaration
form
of
hardship
to
the
tenant
and
the
tenant
would
return
that
notice
and
that's
all
they
have
to
do
for
that
period
of
time.
My
second
period
of
time
is
september,
1st
of
2020
to
january
31st.
2021
and
again
the
landlord
will
give
the
termination
notice
with
the
declaration
form
the
tenant,
would
sign.
D
D
D
G
D
I
N
Let's
go
we're
almost
there
almost
there
and
I
do
want
to
mention.
There
is
a
legislative
update
with
the
eviction
moratorium
for
the
statewide
level.
It
is
then
brought
to
chambers
on
the
7th.
So,
as
andrea
mentioned,
we
are
closely
tracking
that
and
just
about
everyone
is
right
now
so
everyone's
closely
tracking
that
legislation-
and
we
will
know
we
will
let
you
know
the
minute.
We
know
information
on
that.
N
We
have
our
upcoming
workshops
right
now
on
january
21st,
and
there
will
probably
be
more
added
in
in
the
next
few
weeks,
but
as
of
right
now
january
21st,
we
have
a
landlord
property
registration,
which
is
obviously
landlord
focused
at
3
pm.
On
february
12th.
We
have
another
mediation
for
landlord
tenant
issues.
This
is
open
to
all
people
in
mountain
view,
and
on
the
same
day,
back
to
back,
we
have
one
at
6
30
for
a
landlord
tenant
issues
that
is
tenant,
focused
and
again
bilingual.
A
I'm
seeing
very
stoic
faces
now.
Yes,
all
right
with
that.
Merry
christmas,
happy,
hanukkah,
happy,
kwanzaa,
happy,
holidays,
happy,
festivus,
happy
all
the
things
a
new
year.
I
don't
believe
we'll
see
each
other
until
that
is
not
the
right
date
in
the
script.
So
this
meeting
is
adjourned
at
10
35
pm.
The
next
rental
housing
committee
is
scheduled
to
be
held
on
monday
and
that's
not
the
right
date.
So
monday
january
25th
2021.