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07-11-2022 Regular Council Meeting
B
C
C
A
B
H
B
I
now
call
to
order
the
regular
norton
city
council
meeting
for
monday
july
11th
2022,
please
rise
for
pledge
allegiance
in
a
moment
of
silent
prayer.
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
I
J
B
There's
a
motion
in
the
second
on
the
floor,
we'll
please
call
the
roll.
B
K
E
A
A
G
B
B
C
C
C
C
C
I
I
A
Didn't
have
I
did
a
surges
to
this
too.
It
doesn't
show
up
yet.
A
M
A
C
M
B
A
I
have
a
letter
dated
july
6
2022
from
barbara
mclaren
3864
valley
drive
to
the
council
members
of
norton
in
regards
to
the
moratorium
on
the
mud
agreement,
though
too
short,
it
will
not
ruin
further
development
in
norton.
What
the
moratorium
will
do
is
to
protect
other
areas
of
norton
from
poorly
written
details
contained
within
the
current
document.
A
A
Also,
it's
easy
to
be
unsure
with
the
sophistication
of
developers
in
their
advanced
parties,
presenting
grand
schemes
brought
forth
by
the
administration.
While
details
and
results
go
out,
the
window,
as
evidenced
by
the
current
brookside
development,
the
city
and
council,
lost
all
control.
When
this
mud
was
passed
just
a
couple
months
ago,
you
were
forced
to
pass
phase
two
without
the
ability
to
amend
or
change
any
provisions
under
threat
of
lawsuit
by
the
developer.
A
Apparently,
the
problem
is
the
broad
power
given
to
a
developer.
Once
a
mud
may
be
combined
with
a
tiff
is
passed
that
then
towards
the
city
and
residents
short-term
gain
for
future
long-term
support
service
costs
are
not
always
worth
it
for
the
community
at
large
former
council
persons
pushing
for
continuing
this
agreement
as
written
is
an
agenda
more
aligned
with
developers
than
residents.
A
B
Thank
you
and
before
we
move
on
to
any
other
communications,
I
just
want
to
read
rule
205
from
the
council
rules.
I
I
know
she
had
stated
in
there.
She
didn't,
like
her
letter
being
edited
last
time
and
there's
a
reason
for
that
and
it's
rule
205
of
the
council
rules
and
it
states.
No
anonymous
communication
shall
be
read
at
any
council
meeting
the
president
of
council
or
in
his
absence.
The
vice
president
of
council
must
approve
communications
addressed
to
council.
Before
being
publicly
read
by
the
clerk
of
council.
B
N
The
developer
came
in
to
norton
and
wanted
to
put
his
plans
into
effect
before
there
was
even
a
mud
district
he
applied
for
rezoning,
so
you
know
he
could
come
in
and
just
said,
hey
I'm
interested
in
doing
this
on
this
piece
of
property.
You
guys
could
have
said
special
plan
development,
which
was
the
tool
that
norton
used
to
use.
When
I
first
lived
here
now
you
throw
a
mud
district
in
that
you
know,
works
first,
I'm
not
against
business
and
it
works
in
some
places.
N
But
I
am
very
concerned
about
some
of
it
and
to
give
you
an
example,
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
zoning
on
this
home
homes
it
themselves.
R2
requires
a
15,
000
square
foot
property
with
an
800
minimum
square
foot
first
floor
living
area.
R3
requires
a
10
000
square
foot
property,
which
is
basically
a
hundred
a
hundred
by
a
hundred
and
fifty
and
no
that's
our
two
75
by
140
with
another
800
minimum
square
foot
living
area
what's
required
in
a
mud
district.
N
There
is
no
requirement
in
a
mud
district
for
housing,
because
it's
all
dependent
on
the
size
of
the
property,
so
say
you
have
140,
acres
and
half
of
it
is
a
swamp
and
you've
got
you've,
got
so
many
streets.
Well,
the
the
number
of
houses
you
can
put
on
a
lot
in
a
mud
district
isn't
dependent
on
the
acreage
that
you're
putting
the
houses
on
it's
the
total
available
acreage.
So
in
this
district
the
streets
count
is
part
of
it.
The
swampy
area
in
front
counts
as
part
of
it.
N
The
mandatory
50
foot
around
the
whole
property
counts.
As
part
of
that,
then
you
divide,
you
know
the
number
of
houses
you
want
to
build
into
that
and
that's
how
you
can
determine
how
many
houses-
and
it
says
how
many
houses
you
can
have
per
the
total
square
footage.
It's
not
how
many
houses
can
be
on
an
acre.
N
You
know-
and
I
don't
remember
who
said
it,
but
you
guys
said
last
week:
well,
the
millennials
should
get
to
live
where
they
want
to
live
if
they
want
to
move
into
a
place
that
has
you
know
where
they're
five
feet
apart?
That's
their
business.
I
agree
the
millennials
should
get
to
move
in
where
they
want
to
move
in,
but
a
lot
of
us
have
lived
in
norton
for
a
number
of
years.
My
family
has
been
living
in.
N
My
house
on
golf
course
drive
for
50
years
and
what
is
being
set
up
for
me
right
now
and
and
based
on
the
based
on
ryan
too,
is
that
I'm
going
to
face
a
row
of
probably
30
houses
that
are
going
to
go
straight
down
golf
course:
drive
house
10,
feet,
house
10
feet.
I
don't
get
the
fronts
of
the
houses
with
all
their
pretty
characteristics.
N
I
get
the
backs
of
the
houses
and
since
almost
every
single
home
in
that
allotment
is
building
the
same
house,
I'm
going
to
see
three
windows,
one
on
the
bottom
and
a
door
10
feet
three
windows
and
the
only
difference
is
going
to
be.
Some
are
light
gray.
Some
are
light.
Green
some
are
yellow,
but
that's
what
I
get
that's
what
you
have
decided
that
someone
who's
lived
here
and
and
whose
family
has
run
a
business
in
norton
since
1950
that
people
who
live
here
have
less
rights
than
people
who
are
going
to
move
in.
N
Did
I
outgrow
my
my
rights
in
the
city,
you
know
and
you
act
as
if
sometimes
when
I
hear
the
conversation
that
a
group
of
buyers
got
together
and
stepped
stepped
up
and
said,
hey
ryan,
we
don't
want
to
have
big
lots
with
more
than
10
feet
on
the
side.
You
know,
if
that's
not
what
happens
the
developers
and
the
and
the
home
builders,
why
should
they
build
r2
or
r3
anymore?
N
N
That
means
the
developer
makes
twice
the
profit
on
that
and,
regrettably,
that
makes
that
the
city
of
norton
gets
twice
the
profit
or
twice
the
taxes
or
income
on
that
property,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
what
you're
going
for
you
know,
are
you
basing
it
on
one
hand
you
talk
about
the
people
we
care
about
the
people,
but
on
the
other
hand,
is
it
about
the
money,
I'm
an
accountant,
so
a
cost
accountant.
So
I
understand,
I
understand,
all
of
the
little
the
little
things
you
know
you've
got
to
cover
overhead.
N
That's
why
the
school
system
has
open
enrollment
because
they
can
spread
out
the
cost,
even
though
they
don't
get
the
full
tuition.
They
can
spread
out
the
overhead-
and
you
know
I
do
understand,
and
I
want
norton
to
grow,
but
there's
a
space
where
norton
has
to
think
about
its
residents
too.
You've
got
a
property
up
right
now,
with
18
acres
on
cleveland,
masalan,
road
owned
by
the
roble
family.
You
know
and
it's
the
perfect,
perfect
mud.
You
know
the
the
front
of
the
property
touches
cleveland
maslin,
but
the
back
of
the
property.
N
If
it's
you
know,
the
zoning
should
be
the
r2
and
the
r3,
but
you
know
the
planner,
whoever
came
in,
which
is
the
same
developer
for
brookside
came
in
and
he
had
all
of
this
set
up
as
if
it
was
a
mud,
so
he
was
already
looking
at
when
he
was
putting
something
in
there
as
if
it
was
a
mud.
So
right
now
every
developer
and
there
are
a
lot
of
them
that
are
the
same
they're
picking
off
all
the
properties
in
norton
they're
coming
in
and
they're
going.
N
Oh,
let's
see
we
can
throw
these
10
acres
together
here
and
what
can
we
do
for
it?
You
know
back
in
the
day
you
know
it
was
like
norton
spent
a
lot
of
time
figuring
out.
They
didn't
want
spot
zoning,
so
they
said
we're
going
to
do
it
here,
we're
going
to
do
it
there.
Now,
all
of
a
sudden,
it
seems
like,
with
the
mud
district
we're
going
to
go
right
back
to
spot
zoning.
N
I
I
don't
know.
What
does
that
mean?
You
have?
You
have
control
to
say
if
some
guy
comes
in
and
says
I
want
to
develop
the
entire
cyberlink
farm,
do
you
have
control
or
does
he
meet
every
requirement
in
the
mud
district
and
so
the
people
whose
properties
are
all
around
that
don't
matter
either
and
that's
why
I
step
forward
and
say
I'm
not
against
business
and
I'm
not
against
using
you
know
using
an
a
special
plan.
Development
in
certain
areas
where
you
can
have
these
people
will
still
come
forward.
N
O
Heidi
baker,
3378
easton
road-
I
wanted
to
come
in
personally
to
thank
miss
whipkey
and
mr
t
harper
for
working
together
getting
the
job
done
in
front
of
my
house.
Yes,
it
does
help.
Now
we
can
run
that
during
also
the
city
workers.
They
did
an
excellent
job.
I
wanted
to
thank
them
as
well.
That's
it!
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
D
You,
mr
president,
so
after
our
discussion
on
the
the
we
would
like
to
see
the
bonus
that
is
going
to
go
out
that
has
already
gone
out
to
the
different
employees.
We
would
like
to
see
that
go
to
all
the
full-time
non-bargaining
unit
employees.
This
isn't
something
that
that
was
was
given
to
us
is
something
that
we
decided
collectively
as
a
council
that
we
wanted.
We
just
felt
like
there
wasn't
much
difference
between
whether
or
not
a
non-bargaining
unit
employee
or
whether
they
were
a
bargaining
employee.
D
If
they
were
here
and
work
during
the
pandemic,
we
felt
like
they
would
be
deserving
this.
This
bonus
also
so
per
our
discussion.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
tonight
to
have
the
administration
draft
legislation
for
the
full-time
bargaining
unit
employees
to
receive
the
pandemic
bonus
as
well
for
one
thousand
dollars
all
second.
B
C
B
A
B
Yes,
okay,
so
now
we'll
move
on
to
letter,
a
financial
reports
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
miss
whipkey
that
we
can't
find
a
acknowledgement
of
the
may
2022
reports.
We
did
get
those
so
right
now
I
will
acknowledge
the
receipt
of
the
may
2022
financial
reports
and
I
will
also
acknowledge
the
receipt
of
the
june
2022
financial
reports.
D
You,
mr
president,
so
we've
discussed
this
a
couple
times
already
about
recording
the
boards
and
commissions
meetings.
Did
anybody
have
any
questions
concerning
this
for
tonight?.
E
Is
there
any
reason
why
we
don't
have
emergency
language
on
it?
E
A
E
D
So,
are
you
saying
you
would
like
to
waive
the
second
and
third
readings?
I
mean
it's.
A
pretty
basic
straightforward
thing
is
that.
D
President,
do
we
have
to
bring
that
up
for
discussion
first?
Can
I,
or
can
I
just
make
a
motion
to
do
that
or
do
we
you
can
do
that
at
the
point
of
time.
D
All
right,
so
I
would
make
a
motion
to
move
the
ordinance
64-2022
to
tonight's
agenda
for
first
and
third,
second
and
third
reading
and
then
vote
as
well.
Do
you.
G
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
letter
c
moratorium
on
mixed
use
districts,
mr
dahar
part.
Thank
you.
G
Mr
president,
this
is
to
reduce
the
amount
of
time
from
24
months
to
six
months,
to
amend
ordinance
number
61-2022
for
tonight's
third
reading.
Is
there
any
questions
or
comments
on
this.
E
E
Just
like
to
say,
there's
a
lot
here
that
we
really
haven't
discussed
outside
of
what's
been
said.
I've
been
complaining
about
this
particular
thing
ever
since
it
was
presented
to
us
early
2020.
I
believe
it
was
before
we
went
into
lockdown
and
stated
when
I
first
heard
of
it.
This
is
not
something
we
wanted.
It's
not
wasn't
our
intent
for
this
to
happen
and
in
the
meantime
mr
lukens
answered
me
asked
me
some
bunch
of
questions
and
emails
that
I
just
got
yesterday
and
he
had
asked
me
earlier.
E
If
I
had
seen
americans,
I
said
I
did
and
they
preferred
I
didn't
do
it
on
an
email,
so
I'm
gonna
go
through
these,
and
hopefully
I
can
make
you
see
what
I'm
talking.
Yes,
it's
been
amended
from
24
months,
but
you've
heard
some
of
the
stipulations.
Miss
spiker
was
right
when
she
said
this
is
nothing
more
than
spot
zoning.
It
really
is
fancy
spot
zoning.
We
had
a
big
battle
about
this.
E
I
don't
know
how
many
of
the
people
on
council
remember
that
up
on
weber
when
they
wanted
to
change
that
over
and
the
fact
that
it
would
have
been
a
lot
of.
I
mean
the
sewer
and
stuff's
already
in
so
they
wouldn't
be
facing
that
burden,
but
still
it
was
decided
spot
zoning
wasn't
a
place
for
norton.
Just
to
add
to
what
mrs
piper
had
to
say
in
the
meantime,
how
does
this
ordinance
benefit
the
city
as
a
whole?
Considering
that
we
did
have
a
potential
development?
E
E
E
How
many
times
has
it
been
stated
on
the
floor?
We
can
always
change
it
from
my
understanding.
The
citizens
were
much
better
with
the
senior
complex
and
they
felt
about
it
and
the
ones
that
even
didn't
particularly
care
for
it.
They
would
still
would
have
preferred
this
because
it
was
something
that
we
needed,
and
many
of
them
were
looking
forward
our
older
citizens
to
having
a
senior
complex
because
they
don't
want
to
leave
norton.
They
wanted
to
stay
here,
but
we
really
don't
have
any
place
suitable
for
them
to
go.
E
E
E
E
We
were
all
rather
happy
that
we
were
going
to
finally
get
a
senior
complex
that
something
that
we
needed.
Then
we
still
needed
then
that
got
thrown
out
unpronounced
to
counsel,
and
yet
the
administration
didn't
say
anything
until
after
the
application
was
signed
and
brought
out,
then
we
heard
about
it.
D
So
that
brought,
I
don't
mean
to
wrap,
judge,
had
a
quick
question
comment,
so
I
had
brought
up
another
issue
that
I
was
thinking
of
with
these
mud.
Mud
districts
is
couldn't.
We
have
language
that
these
these
mud
district
permits
that,
if
there
are
any
changes
to
the
permit
as
it
is,
is
a
given
that
they
have
to
reapply.
Isn't
that
I
mean,
I
know
we're
looking
at
this
long
term
on
how
to
fix
this.
This
situation
as
well.
D
Would
that
be
something
that
would
would
benefit
us
and
also
the
citizens
that
if
we
have
a
mud
district
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
senior
living
center
like
we
talked
about
with
brookside
and
then
it
changes
well,
then
you
have
to
reapply.
D
E
E
E
E
Oh,
no!
Okay!
Okay!
I
misunderstood
you,
okay!
No!
No!
Oh
your
question!
Oh
no!
It
takes
a
lot
more
than
that's
gonna.
Say
I've
taken
a
lot
more
in
that
over
my
time
as
far
as
the
newspapers,
I'm
sorry,
if
I've
been
to
any
of
the
newspaper
people
out
there,
but
if
they
are
in
any
way
competent,
they
will
likely
be
wondering
why
we
didn't
do
it
right
to
begin
with,
and
do
you
really
think
that
fixing
something
that's
broken
is
bad.
E
E
E
It
was
two
years
right.
Yes,
I
feel
that
maybe
you
would
want
to
ban
mud
districts
altogether.
Is
that
your
intention?
Why
would
it
need
to
be
banned
for
one
year?
Why
was
such
a
or
two
years,
whatever
the
case
was?
Why
was
such
a
long
time
period
of
time
necessary
and
we've
already,
you
know,
we've
just
determined.
E
I've
been
talking
against
this
for
over
two
years.
I've
listened
to
the
people
at
the
planning
committees.
I
listened
to
the
people
when
they
came
to
council.
Apparently
I
didn't
listen.
Good
enough.
I
certainly
didn't
know,
have
a
good
enough
handle
on
it
to
pass
that,
but
that
should
give
you
a
little
bit
of
insight
as
to
why
I
said
24
months.
E
I
was
willing
to
take
the
six
months
with
the
hope
that
it
can
be
extended
if
that's
what
it
takes
to
get
it
to
be
more
fitting
for
norton
as
far
as
if
they
went
away
altogether.
No,
that's
not
going
to
break
my
heart
one
bit,
but
that's
like
I'm,
not
picking
on
you,
I'm
just
telling
you
this
is
you
asked
and
unfortunately
I
have
a
problem.
I
guess
some
people
would
think
of
being
a
little
bit
too
blunt
at
times,
but.
D
G
All
right
so
I'd
like
to
anybody
else,
have
anything
to
comment
before
we
move
this
to
amend
this
all
right.
Nobody
has
anything
but
I'd
like
to
move
to
add
the
amendment
to
ordinance
61-2022
tonight's
agenda
for
third
reading,
a.
B
A
K
K
K
Rules
basically
set
forth
within
it.
It's
unlawful
to
camp
upon
any
public
property
owned
by
the
city,
including
without
limitations,
streets,
sidewalks,
easements
parks,
parking,
lots,
public
grounds
or
public
right-of-ways.
K
It
explains
in
more
detail
to
camp
what
that
actual
meaning
is,
and
then
it
goes
on
to
address
the
says.
This
shall
not
apply
to
persons
who
have
no
alternative,
lodging
available
to
them
and
are
otherwise
homeless,
or
have
insufficient
funds.
E
E
Because
what
happens
if
somebody
was
to
come
in
what
where,
if
they
took
up
and
started
camping
in
an
area,
as
I
understand
that
the
law
isn't
retroactive,
so
this
really
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
applied
to
them.
If
they
were
already
here
before,
when
it
was
passed
and
accepted,
would
that
be
correct?
Mr
markey
yeah.
M
E
Well,
if
nobody
has
anything
else
to
say,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
have
this
amended
with
the
emergency
language
and
putting
it
on
for
first
reading
and
looking
to
waive
the
readings.
Is
that
possible
to
get
it
passed
tonight?
Mr
markey?
Yes,.
E
B
There's
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
floor
and
this
is
just
to
move
it
to
the
meeting.
Is
there
any
further
discussion?
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
ruling.
E
D
B
B
B
I
Thank
you.
I
just
would
like
to
announce
that,
while
you
guys
are
on
break
summer,
events
we'll
have
on
the
28th
thursday
july
28th
we'll
have
a
car
show
down
here
at
columbia,
woods
park
friday
night,
we'll
have
a
rolling
stone,
tribute
band,
and
then
saturday,
we'll
do
our
the
police
department,
fire,
the
norton
safety
forces,
police
and
fire
and
so
forth.
We'll
do
a
touch
of
truck
on
saturday
from
12
until
three
and
then
we
have
backed
by
popular
demand
escape
journey
tribute
we'll
be
here
saturday
evening.
I
The
bands
start
at
7
p.m
and
then
followed
by
fireworks
that
evening.
So
that's
the
28th,
29th
and
30th.
We'll
also
have
food
trucks
here
in
the
park,
as
well
as
beer
for
available
for
purchase,
and
I.
I
Like
to
just
announce
just
for
the
sake
of
transparency
that
we
will
be
charging
there's
a
five
dollar
donation
collected
by
the
norton
football
that
will
help
us
park
cars
and
we'll
have
a
is
my
understanding.
The
the
plan
will
be
to
have
some
handicap
parking
accessible
down
here
in
the
park,
but
try
to
have
some
order.
We'll
have
additional
parking
over
at
the
school.
I
They
will
do
a
school
bus
shuttle,
there's
also
free
parking
up
on
the
hill,
but
you'll
have
to
walk
down
to
the
park
in
order
to
to
take
care
to
do
that,
so
just
putting
it
out
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
D
D
Okay
and
as
we
discussed
earlier
tonight,
we
already
had
a
motion
to
waive
the
second
and
third
readings
and
vote
on
this
tonight.
Did
anybody
have
any
other
last
questions
or
concerns.
K
Wouldn't
he
still
have
to
make
a
motion
to
waive
the
readings?
Yes,
okay,
yes,.
M
D
F
A
F
B
B
O
B
D
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
E
B
K
K
B
K
J
B
F
F
F
Thank
you,
mr
president,
for
ordinance
number
62
2022
for
its
second
reading
and
ask
the
clerk
to
read
it.
Please.
F
Does
someone
like
to
waive
make
a
motion
to
waive
the
third
reading.
B
A
B
C
C
B
E
E
On
top
of
that,
some
more
food
for
thought.
For
you.
What's
the
hurry
to
do
this,
we've
already
been
told,
none
of
the
people
holding
these
positions
are
going
to
be
affected
by
it.
So
there's
no
real
reason
to
be
pushing
this
and
putting
it
on
the
ballot
for
november,
because
it's
not
going
to
have
any
effect
until
after
those
four
seats
need
to
be
filled.
To
begin
with,
we
can
ask
it's
more
thought
to
be
thought
concerned
with.
E
E
E
E
I
don't
know
if
we
would
really
want
to
have
that
responsibility
put
on,
is
let
the
professionals
assess
as
to
who's
the
best
ones
for
the
job
and
I'll
I'll
reiterate
these
people
are
judged
by
other
fire
chiefs,
other
police
chiefs.
E
They
don't
know
who
it
is
that
they're
looking
at
and
deciding
on
they're
just
telling
you
how
their
reactions
to
different
situations
is
going
to
meet
or
if
they're
going
to
be
able
to
handle
the
situation.
I
don't
want
to
be
in
that
position.
This
is
people's
lives.
It's
not
just
legislation.
These
are
lives
you're.
Putting
on
the
line
and,
like
I
said
I
believe
we
can
always.
E
I
believe
we
are
allowed
to
view
that
list
and
if
we
had
a
real
issue
with
what
they
were
coming
up,
we
may
be
able
to
argue
that
I
could
be
wrong
on
that.
One.
I've
been
taking
a
crash
course
on
civil
service.
It's
not
something.
I
paid
a
lot
of
attention
to
as
many
as
all
the
other
boards
and
commissions,
and
also
going
on.
There
may
be
more
than
one
charter
change
involved
with
this,
as
opposed
to
just
this
one
you
might
want
to
be.
E
States
the
person,
the
city
administrator.
E
As
in
his
position,
as
a
personnel
department,
says
just
determined
and
recommended
to
counsel
those
positions
which
shall
be
placed
in
the
classified
service
of
the
civil
service,
with
the
intent
that,
to
the
greatest
possible
extent,
positions
in
the
municipal
government
and
its
departments
shall
be
free
from
the
spoil
systems
so
that
qualified
employees
may
be
attracted
and
be
held
and
held
in
these
positions.
E
E
The
ordinance
shall
provide
which
employees
of
the
municipality
shall
be
within
the
classified
service
and
which
shall
be
within
the
unclassified
service,
provided
that
regular
full-time
members
of
the
police
and
fire
and
emergency
medical
services.
Divisions
shall
be
in
the
classified
service,
and
yet
this
one
charter
amendment
is
taking
them
out
of
the
classified
and
putting
them
into
the
unclassified.
E
So
before
you
want
to
think
about
doing
this,
one
charter
amendment
you
may
want
to
be
rethinking
it
again
and
on
top
of
that,
there's
still
mordeca.
E
B
Well,
I
have
a
couple
statements:
real
quick
or
questions.
I
guess
so.
It
was
also
on
your
paper,
miss
whipkey.
You
have
norton
codified,
chapter
240
and
242
which
detail
the
the
hiring
and
of
both
police
chief
and
fire
chief.
B
M
So
that
you
would
have
to
conform,
I
would
conform
the
codified
ordinances
to
the
charter
amendment.
Should
it
go
forward
and
should
it
pass?
Yes,
definitely
things
that
need
to
be
cleaned
up.
I
don't
think
they're.
Contrary
provisions
in
the
charter.
I
disagree
on
that,
but
there
are
some
sections
in
the
codifies
that
dooney
cleaned
up.
Should
the
charter
member
go
forward
and
pass.
F
Oh
okay,
I
had
a
follow-up
question
so
back
in
2016
it
was
ordinance
68
2016..
We
were
looking
to
amend
section
6.04
of
the
charter.
It
seems
like,
for
the
same
reason,
to
change
these
to
unclassified.
What
is
it,
what
does
that
accomplish
versus
us
amending
505?
F
E
E
The
drop
program-
I
almost
forgot,
the
name
he
was
involved
in
the
drop
program,
which
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
drop
program
or
not,
but
that's
where
they
to
the
best
of
my
ability
they
pay
into
a
specific
pension
plan
for
retirement.
E
If
I
get
any
of
this
wrong,
somebody
jump
in
and
correct
me,
I'm
doing
this
for
memory,
and
I
think
it's
like
150
000
that
they
have
to
take
their
retirement
at
such
and
such
time
where
they
lose
that
money,
they
don't
get
it
and
what
they
wanted
to
do.
He
was
going
to
retire,
so
he
could
collect
his
money.
We
were
going
to
bring
him
back
so
that
the
idea
was,
and
he
was
going
to
come
back
and
take
over
his
police
chief
again.
E
Well,
I
didn't
like
that
idea
for
the
plain
and
simple
fact
I
don't
feel
it
was
fair.
It
definitely
didn't
wasn't
something
that
I
thought
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people.
That's
worked
for
us
for
many
years,
and
some
of
them
may
be
looking
if
they
want
to
move
up
on
the
totem
pole
and
become
chief
and
yet
we're
going
to
on
a
whim,
we're
going
to
sit
there
and
change
the
rules.
So
we
can
bring
somebody
back
and
these
people
won't
get
the
opportunity
to
move
up.
E
F
F
E
I
M
G
G
Was
that
something
we
could
do,
because
obviously
there's
guys
in
the
fire
department
police
department
that
have
worked
a
lot
of
years?
Like
ms
whippy
said,
you
know,
and
I
think
we
should
go
to
those
guys
first,
you
know,
I
think,
when
you
got
guys
that
worked
in
police
and
fire
for
15
20
years,
they've
worked
their
butts
off.
Many
of
these
guys
have
had
goals
and
dreams
and
aspirations
from
kids
to
be
a
police
chief
or
a
fire
chief.
G
D
E
C
B
B
I
don't
know,
I
guess
that's
a
question
for
mr
markey,
but
it
could
be
added
in
chapter
240
and
242.
Should
it
pass
well.
D
D
M
K
And
I
agree
with
you
know,
looking
in
the
house
first,
however,
that
being
said,
I
think
it's
in
the
citizens
best
interest
if
you
open
that
pool
up-
and
you
take
the
best-
that's
around-
not
just
limit
yourself
to
choosing
from
a
small
group
if
the
best
is
in
that
small
group
by
all
means
that
person
should
be.
You
know
given
the
opportunity.
K
However,
if
there
are
more
qualified
individuals
out
there,
wouldn't
you
want
the
best
for
your
residents
want
the
best
for
your
city.
I
understand
loyalty
and
working
your
way
up
through
the
ranks,
but
I
also
believe
that
you,
you
should
have
the
best
to
cover
whatever
area
you're
looking
to
hire
for
whether
it
be
internal
hire
or
you
go
outside
and
and
you
bring
somebody
in
from
the
outside.
M
M
For
the
ordinance
to
pass
correct,
I
think
the
board
of
elections
prefers
to
have
things
that
90
day
window
they
like
to
have
things
there,
because
they
have
to
get
the
military
ballots
ready,
which
is
why
I
think
we're
airing
on
closer
to
the
120-day
limit,
as
opposed
to
the
60,
but
by
constitution.
They'll
have
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
we
just
want
to.
Let
them
know
that
those
becoming
potentially
after
the
90
day
deadline
just
to
give
them
a
heads
up.
K
D
B
M
Yeah
this
one
they'll
probably
stick
to
what
we.
What
council
provides
in
an
ordinance
they're
not
going
to
give
a
summary
they're
going
to
give
the
full
the
full
provision.
But
to
mr
towsley's
point
and
not
weighing
one
way
or
the
more
words
you
add,
the
more
confusing
potentially
becomes.
D
Okay,
so
you.
D
Yeah
I
just
I
would
make
a
motion
that
would
remove
the
vote
for
tonight
and
extend
the
readings
on
this
ordinance.
Do
we
want
to
set
an
a
set
amount
of
readings,
or
do
we
would
just
want
to
take
it
week
by
week.
B
M
D
Well,
I
mean,
obviously,
I
think,
if
you're
able
to
work
on
it,
you
know
we,
we
have
the
break
but
you're
still
here,
if
you're
able
to
work
on
and
have
something
ready,
the
language
that
shows
that
we're
part
of
that
the
hiring
and
possible
removal
process
that
we're
in
that
language,
then
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
step
and
then
we
could
look
at
it
in
our
next
work
session.
D
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
delay
the
vote
and
extend
the
readings
on
ordinance
number
55-2022.
I
F
B
G
H
L
G
H
Is
that
people
are
upset
about
the
five
units
per
acre
and
that's
something
that
we
can
certainly
talk
about?
It
comes
from
section
128703,
a1
of
the
ordinance
itself
that
allows
up
to
five
units
per
acre.
Now
we
can
further
define
that
if
we
want
to
and
and
change
the
way
that
we
look
at
that,
but
we
can
do
that
without
having
to
have
a
moratorium
put
in
place.
We've
we've
come
a
long.
O
H
H
I
mean
I've
said
before
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
live
that
close
to
my
neighbor,
but
there
are
people
that
do.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
is
that
and
I'm
going
to
point
it
out
again,
that
particular
plat
that
particular
plan
was
approved
by
council?
It
came
to
us
and
it
passed
five
to
two.
If
I
remember
that
it
may
have
been
four
to
three,
but
I
think
it
was
five
to
two
so.
H
Discussing
it
ad
nauseam,
we
talked
about
all
these
things.
We
talked
about
this,
the
amount,
the
density
we
talked
about,
the
size
of
the
lots
I
remember
going
online
and
looking
up
what
the
size
of
the
lots
were
in
brentwood
and
in
the
development
barberton
at
the
end
of
maryland
and
different
developments.
So
I
had
some
idea
of
what
it
looked
like
so
to
say
that
this
was
slipped
through
and
that
we
didn't
have
any
control
over.
This
really
isn't
true.
H
H
H
H
E
E
H
L
H
C
H
H
3,
if
disapproved
a
written
notice
with
reasons
for
disapproval,
be
sent
to
the
developer
and
the
developer
will
have
to
submit
a
new
final
site
plan
application
if
they
wish
to
move
forward
and
the
reason
that
they
want
written
reasons
why
it
was
rejected
is
so
that
the
developer
can
come
back
and
say:
oh,
you
have
a
problem
with
xyz
here's
what
I
propose
to
do.
Instead,
it's
not
some
nefarious
thing
where
somebody's
trying
to
trap
someone
is
to
try
and
get
the
developer
to
do
what
you
want
to
do
so
there.
H
G
All
right,
I'd
like
to
move
to
adopt
ordinance
number
61-2022.
D
L
B
B
D
D
Okay,
finally,
so
I
would,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
number
36-2022
I'll.
Second,.
E
B
Any
further
discussion
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
E
A
E
B
F
Was
going
to
I
was
going
to
follow
mr
townsend
yeah.
He
sent
me
pictures
today.
There's
no,
no
trucks
coming
out
of
there
to
go
into
nash
heights,
there's
no
truck
signs.
There
now
he's.
I
know
he's
talked
to
addison
as
well
about
putting
in
right
turn
only
because
right
now,
there's
no
left
turn
which
just
promotes
people
driving
straight
through
there.
So
taking
steps
to
talk
to
them
about
doing
that,
I
know
he,
the
ryan
holmes
guy
talked
to
the
people
that
were
driving
their
trucks
through
there
and
so
there's
conversations
being
had.
E
I
understood
some
signs
have
already
been
put
up.
Are
we
going
to
have
to
put
up
any
signs
on
any
of
the
other
side
roads?
Is
there
any
other
way
that
they
can
more
or
less
make
themselves
a
shortcut
on
their
other
streets?.
G
I
have
something,
mr
president.
Yes,
mr
harper
resident,
frank,
lafrezzo
he's
in
the
corner.
His
address
isn't
on
here
he's
in
the
corner
of
shellheart,
where
the
new
redwood
entrance
is
he's
been
in
communication
with
several
times.
I
have
pictures
here
of
the
construction
workers
that
are
parking
not
just
on
the
side
of
the
road
but
way
back
onto
his
property.
G
He
says
they've
crushed
the
culvert
pipe
and
done
some
damages
there.
So
I've
sent
a
couple
emails
out,
but
I
I
wanted
to
address
that
for
the
record
that
we're
going
to
get
some
kind
of
resolve
done
there,
the
guy's
got
a
beautiful
place.
There
shouldn't
have
to
deal
with
a
construction
crew
parking
in
this
front
yard.
So
that's
all.
I
have.
E
Just
the
same
ones,
I've
always
asked.
Oh
one
new
one.
What
about
at
new
park?
Have
we
gotten
any
further
with
new
park
that
we
know
that
leagues
do
something's
going
to
happen
down
there
soon.
E
E
B
K
C
K
Well,
not
public
service,
but
with
mr
harper's
question
or
issue
that
he
brought
up
mr
fowler,
should
he
like
file
a
police
report
up
with
the
people
parking
on
his
property?
Who
should
he
see
or
address,
concerning
the
damages
and
how
to
resolve
it
without
causing
major
issues.
C
A
C
C
H
P
P
I
guess
it's
being
called
a
donation,
since
it's
a
public
park
and
to
say
it's
a
fee
would
not
be
appropriate,
calling
it
a
donation,
then
does
that
mean
if
someone
chooses
not
to
make
the
donation
that
they
will
be
denied
the
parking
or
they'll
still
be
allowed
to
go
in
that's
one
question
second
question
is:
why
is
this
being
done
specifically
to
benefit
the
football
team?
There
are
bands.