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05-16-2022 Committee Work Session
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C
E
E
F
E
Communications
from
the
public
before
we
start
communications
of
the
public.
I
just
want
to
say
last
week,
mrs
pfeiffer,
when
you
came
forward,
I
I
gave
you
much
over
five
minutes
and
I'm
not
stuck
on
hard
fast
rules,
but
I'm
I'm
gonna
try
to
stick
a
little
closer
to
the
five
minutes
this
week,
because
we
have
several
speakers.
E
I
Tonight
I
want
to
talk
about
two
things.
I'm
here,
for
the
first
reason
is
to
reinforce
how
I
feel
about,
what's
going
on
on
golf
course
drive
and
how
I
want
all
of
you
to
know
how
important
it
is
that
it
is
to
every
resident
on
golf
course
drive
and
on
shell
heart
road
that
the
provisions
and
the
tip
agreement
are
enforced.
I
I
The
second
reason
I
want
to
talk
tonight
is
about
multi-use
districts
in
norton,
which
is
a
result
of
all
the
problems
that
I'm
talking
about.
For
my
first
reason,
the
city
recently
reached
out
and
asked
norton
residents.
What
do
you
think
about
the
current
park
situation?
Are
you
satisfied?
Wow?
You
cared
about
our
opinions
about
the
parks,
but
the
city
never
reached
out
when
it
was
negotiating
with
outside
developers
to
ask
us
how
we
would
feel
about
seven
homes
per
acre
housing
allotments
dropped
in
the
middle
of
our
neighborhoods
or
seven
homes
per
acre.
I
The
city
decided
in
private
phone
conversations
and
meetings.
What
was
in
our
best
interest
and
yes,
we
voted
for
you
guys
to
represent
us,
and
you
know
do
what's
best
for
us
in
the
city.
But
it's
you
know
at
some
point.
The
citizens
of
norton
need
to
get
to
express
how
they
feel
about
what's
going
on
in
their
neighborhoods,
and
you
have
plans
for
norton,
and
I
know
you
still
have
more
plans,
but
because
of
those
plans
we
now
have
multi-use
districts
and
in
this
environment
a
multi-use
district
could
pop
up
anywhere
in
this
city.
I
You
know
these
developers
are
going
in
right
now.
Buying
for
enough
properties
for
their
tips
and
all
they
need
to
do
is
throw
a
few
lots
together
and
they
have
enough
for
another
multi-use
district
and,
basically
there's
you
know
you
can
say:
well,
we
get
to
approve
everyone,
but
after
a
while,
their
lawyers
are
going
to
be
bigger
than
yours
and
I
think
you're
going
to
find
yourself
in
the
same
position.
I
You
know
just
these
random
multi-use
districts
and
areas
where
you
know
the
residents
really
don't
want
them,
and
so
now
you
have
neighborhoods
like
ours
on
both
sides,
nash,
heights
and
golf
course
derived
that
surround
these
districts
that
are
struggling
to
keep
their
own
identities
intact.
We,
you
know,
we
had
bigger
lots,
we
had
the
rural
look,
you
know
I
used
to
live
in
norton
acres.
There
were
our
house
was
on
100
by
150
foot
lot
there.
I
You
can
now
take
two
of
these
big
homes
and
stick
those
on
my
lock
and
norton
acres
and
there's
going
to
be
20
feet
left
over
by
a
hundred.
That's
how
that's,
how
big
these
houses
are
and
right
now
the
houses
that
are
built,
don't
really
impact
the
lower
end
of
your
golf
course,
because
they're
not
really
right
on
top,
but
the
new
ones,
the
ones
you're
going
to
approve
the
addresses
for
they
will
impact
these
people
that
live
there.
I
You
know
seven
houses
per
acre
on
them
to
attract
people
to
norton,
but
that's
what
it
seems
like
and
I'm
an
accountant
by
trade.
So
you
know
I
understand
how
loud
that
money
speaks
now,
there's
a
rumor
that
there
are
more
plans
afoot
north
of
us
off.
The
golf
course
drive
and
you
know
it's
like:
are
we
right
back
to
the
same
thing?
Is
there
another
dun
div
deal
in
the
works
you
know?
I
I
J
With
the
planning
commission
meeting
where
there
was
will
request,
the
approval
of
the
second
stage
or
second
phase
of
the
development
on
roadside
greens
and
the
way
it
was
presented
was
that
this
the
request
was
a
mere
formality.
There
was
nothing
else
to
it
and
to
me
it
seemed
a
little
odd,
because
I
was
in
the
impression
that
the
drawings
that
had
been
published-
let's
say
a
long
time
ago
before
that
planning
commission
showed
live
numbers.
J
When
you
started
looking
at
things,
it
appeared
that
the
lot
numbers
had
changed
for
one
thing,
and
new
documentation
showed
that
landscaping
around
the
perimeter
of
the
development
had
changed
and
another
thing
that
I'm
noticing
one
of
the
documents
is
that
I
I'll
just
call
it
minor
changes
and,
I
suppose
that's
a
perspective
item
that
would
come
up
during
this
development
only
require
the
approved
the
approval
of
our
city
administrator
and
to
me
yes,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
that.
This
is
a
significant
project.
J
J
J
You
know
there
could
be
other
stuff
in
here
that
we
don't
know
about.
They
could
sit,
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment
that
we're
talking
about.
So
that's
kind
of
my
concern
is
that
maybe
we
you
know
this
was
supposedly
a
formality.
Nothing
really
changed,
but
here
are
three
things
that
I've
seen
already
and
I
think.
J
And
they
didn't
want
to
do
that
because
it
could
cause
a
drinking
tissue
but
way
back
when
the
residents
talked
about
the
drainage
issues
that
already
existed
and
what's
going
to
happen,
how
they're
going
to
lay
out
everything?
Is
it
going
to
make
it
worse
for
those
of
us
that
are
already
there?
That
already
have
a
significant
issue,
and
we've
talked
about
that.
You
know
so
there's
that
that's
my
concern
at
the
moment.
J
J
I've
got
any
number
of
videos
after
these
heavy
storms
that
we
have,
and
you
know
we're
really
happy
to
share
them,
and
I
think
several
of
the
council
people
have
been
out
there
during
or
after
these
storms,
to
see.
What's
going
on,
that's
significant
and
that's
you
know
it's.
It
could
have
started
way
back
when
we
did
the
intersection
up
there
at
76
and
21..
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
actually
started
it.
There's
always
some
building
back
there.
E
If
you
don't
mind
before
you
sit
down,
because
I
don't
want
you
to
think
I'm
responding
and
you
don't
have
a
chance
to
respond.
So
if
you,
you
know,
don't
mind,
I
just
want
to
explain
an
understanding.
I
emailed
you
you
and
mrs
pfeiffer,
but
I
want
to
explain
to
everybody
my
understanding
just
because
I
think
it's
important
for
council
to
know
and
the
residents
to
know
that
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
disappointment
that
the
map
you're
seeing
shows
mounting
only
so
far.
Well.
E
E
So,
however,
many
they
decide
to
go
with
will
have
to
come
before
city
council,
so
the
the
incomplete
mounding
is
because
the
next
phase
has
not
been
planned
or
approved,
and
that's
where
the
kind
of
to
what
you're,
speaking
at
the
city
engineer
with
each
additional
mounting
will
go.
Do
his
due
diligence
to
see
if
it's
going
to
impact
flooding
or
otherwise.
And
you
know
if,
if
a
mound
were
to
impact
flooding,
it
says
in
the
original
document
that
there'll
be
other
barriers
used.
E
B
B
Right
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
and
the
redwood
parcels
went
through
their
own
procedure.
The
redwood
parcel
went
through
its
own
procedure,
so
this
is
really
looking
at
just
the
final
plot
of
the
brookside
greens,
and
so
when
we're
comparing
the
plat
right,
what
we're
actually
comparing
is.
Is
there
any
changes
from
the
plot
of
this
area,
known
as
phase
two
back
to
their
original
phase?
One
approval
that
was
done
by
council.
E
E
J
You
know
and
now
they're
coming
up
to
the
planning,
commission
and
council.
So
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
since
discussion.
You
know
I
just
to
me
it
seemed
inappropriate
that
they
would
be
true
first
to
go
ahead
with
whatever
plans
that
they
have.
You
know
just
now.
If
they're
just
you
know,
I
don't
know
where
the
city
administrator
approval
fits
into
any
of
this
stuff
or
it
appears
it's
there
somewhere
and
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I'm
confused.
C
I
had
sent
out
that
email
and
I
stated
what
I
thought
I
don't
know
how
many
members
of
council
have
actually
been
out
there
and
looked
at
this,
but
I
was
out
there
last
night
and
where
I
was
seeing
things
located,
it
looked
like
there
was
little
to
nothing
thought
about
is
where
they
were
going
to
put
anything
in
order
to
accommodate
their
neighbors
that
are
already
located
there.
That
stuff
is
close
to.
C
So
looking
out
there,
you
drive
out
there
when
you're
seeing
it
like.
I
said
I
don't
know
what
that
giant.
Brown
thing
that
looked
like
a
cone,
that's
sticking
in
the
ground
and
not
that
far
from
the
road,
but
it
kind
of
looks
to
me
like
they
really
don't
care
or
do
they
have
to
be
concerned
with
what
council
has
to
say-
and
I
haven't
been
impressed-
is
how
much
impact
we've
had
on
anything
that
they've
done
over
there.
So
far
we
were
told
we
would
be
able
to
stop
this
and
stop
that.
C
But
then
we
get
to
the
point
and
then
well.
We
can't
really
do
that.
We've
they've
done
this
and
they've
done
that
and
we'd
have
to
go
to
court
we'd
be
sued.
Well,
you
know
to
hell
with
it
sue
us,
I'm
I'm
tired
of
seeing
this
and
and
hearing
one
thing
and
another
and,
like
I
said,
there's
nothing
out
there
that
looks
like
it's
friendly
towards
residents
or
anything
that
we
were
under.
The
impression
was
going
to
be
done.
They
were
going
to
leave
all
these
streets
go
count.
C
How
many
trees
are
there
and
when
they
get
done
with
what
they're
going
to
do
the
rest
of
it
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
less
trees.
These
people
done
nothing.
They
came
into
town,
they
come
into
hicksville
as
far
as
they
was
concerned
and
by
god.
They've
just
been
blaming
us
ever
since
they
got
here.
E
I
F
I
F
I
Landscaping
shown
and
two
different
areas
on
show
art
that
hasn't
even
been
touched
over
there.
There
was
landscaping
challenge
in
the
front
on
greenwich
road
that
hasn't
been
touched.
My
fear,
you
know
is
that
if
you
will
prove
that
plan-
as
is,
I
don't
know,
is
that
a
legal
document
for
the
whole
thing.
I
You
know
it's
not
it's
not
just
the
landscape.
There's
landscaping
all
over
that
map,
just
not
in
front
of
our
homes.
Sure
there's
some
landscaping
shown
in
that
map.
That's
in
front
of
face
too
in
front
of
some
of
those
homes
down
there.
But
you
know
my
ultimate
fear
is
you
know
a
document
gets
approved
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
oh
well,
we
thought
it
was
this,
but
it
was
really
bad.
So
that
is
my
concern.
Why
bring
this
up
from
all
these
people.
B
The
mounting
plan
it
may
have-
I
don't
actually
know,
I
really
don't
know
if
it
was
just
for
your
for
that
phase
or
for
the
whole
development.
I
know
it
looked
like
to
me
when
I
looked
at
it,
but
I'm
not
an
engineer
that
looked
like
there
was
mounting
for
going
around
it.
That
was
a
proposal
from
the
developer,
that's
being
reviewed
by
the
city
administrator
and
the
engineer.
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
counter
proposals
back.
B
I
The
road
right
now
back
to
where
we
were
with
weeds,
knee
deep
and
all
of
this
mess
over
there
and
you
know
all
the
problems
that
go
with
a
multi-use
district
in
the
middle
of
you
know
a
major
apartment,
but
I'm
just
concerned.
You
know
when
that
when
I
looked
at
that
sheet
that
had
that
you
know
the
mounts
on
it,
that
it
might
have
represented
what
he
was
saying
for
the
whole
unit.
C
C
A
E
C
A
A
F
E
E
M
3762,
eastern
road,
you
know
just
speaking
here,
I
wasn't
going
to
speak,
but
hearing
these
three
things
that
were,
I
have
three
things.
One
was
when
you
passed
the
mud.
You
know
you
were
under
just
seemingly
unaware
of
all
the
ramifications
that
that
involved.
That
would
come
forward
like
this,
and
one
thing
that
you
guys
did
was
there
was
a
30
plus
acre
hole
in
that
map.
M
That
just
said
phase
two,
so
you
approved
it.
You
may
have
known
what
was
going
on
in
the
background
the
residents
didn't.
So
when
that
question
came
up,
you
just
all
sat
there
at
the
time.
The
other
thing
is
currently,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
driven
down
there,
but
here's
a
rentarian
area
that
creek
that's
been
driven
back
and
forth
across
the
silk
fences
are
gone,
they've
put
in
a
retaining
pond
on
a
creek
path,
so
where's
all
the
epa
records
for
that.
M
How
did
that
happen
and
that's
a
pretty
good
tactic
of
driving
over
a
wetland
and
a
creek
just
to
kind
of
eliminate
it
and
then
claim?
Oh,
it's
just
a
marsh
area.
It's
a
wet
area
that
was
a
flowing
creek
all
through
there
on
those
hills
so
who
approved
that,
and
how
did
you
know,
one
of
you
guys
should
have
enough
backbone
to
go
up
to
the
epa
and
call
them
out
and
have
them
look
at
it.
M
E
O
B
You
know
it's
really
just
a
difference
between
at
will
employee
and
employee
that's
protected
by
civil
service.
So
an
unclassified
is
not
well
employee
that
essentially
can
be
terminated.
Okay,
civil
service,
you
have
certain
rights,
you've
caught
four
cause
rights
and
there's
a
whole
handbook
that
goes
along
with
civil
service
employees
classified
employees
which
rights
they
have.
So
it's
really
the
difference
between
having
an
employee
that
you
can
terminate
and
employ
you
can't
terminate
so.
O
Would
it
be
safe
to
say
that
an
unclassified
service
employee
would
be
a
non-union
employee,
then
that's
correct,
so
they
would
not
have
the
okay
yeah.
Can
I
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
this
like?
What
specifically
is
the
reason
for
this
ordinance?
I
mean,
I
know
it's
kind
of
a
generic
question,
but
what
is
the
intent.
B
Yeah,
it's
really
too,
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
too
much
too,
because
it
wasn't
just
my
idea,
but
really
the
intent
is
to
open
up
the
process.
So
you
can
search
for
the
best
candidate
and
if
the,
if
there's
a
chief
in
the
future,
it
doesn't
apply
to
any
of
the
current
chiefs.
If
there's
a
chief
in
the
future
that
is
not
performing
well,
then
you
can.
You
can
terminate
that
employee
and.
E
C
C
C
That
way,
as
opposed
to,
I
don't
see
where
it's
going
to
give
us
the
better
people
to
begin.
This
looks
to
me
like
it's
just
the
same
thing
practically
as
anybody.
That's
on
the
regular
work
shift
and
and
be
blunt
about
it,
because,
frankly,
I'm
a
little
tired
of
being
nice
about
anything.
All
it's
doing
is
putting
people
in
a
position
in
a
good
position.
C
People
that
a
position
that
our
entire
city
depends
on
is
putting
them
under
the
thumb
of
being
bullied
and
coerced
into
doing
things
that
they
would
not
ordinarily
do,
and
they
would
have
no
recourses
to
go
back
and
be
able
to
fight
and
try
and
make
things
the
way
they
would
like
them
like.
This
doesn't
even
have
any
business
being
in
front
of
us.
Not
only
don't
you
have
to
move
this
tonight,
you
can
do
this
like
I've
done
in
the
past
and
say
I
refuse
to
move
it
forward
period.
O
So
I
mean
I,
I
would
say
that
I'm,
you
know
this
is
our
first
night
discussing
it.
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
it
clearly
says
that
the
the
mayor
would
recommend
and
council
with
a
point
position.
It's
it's
not
just
a
hierarchy
of
okay,
take
it
or
leave
it.
We
still
have
a
council
body
that
would
approve
or
disapprove
hiring
and
removal.
I
think
that
gives
us
more
control
and
oversight
than
what
we've
ever
had
before.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
at
least
worth
considering.
O
C
Well,
I
would
like
to
said
of
the
civil
servant
of
the
norton
civil
service
rule,
since
we
don't
have
access
to
them,
it's
not
on
the
website.
I've
looked
I've
not
been
able
to
find
it.
While
I'm
on
the
subject
of
rules,
we
need
the
rules
accessible
for
all
the
boards
and
commissions
and
put
on
the
city
website,
so
that
the
residents
as
well
as
council
has
access
to
them,
and
maybe
that
would
help
clarify
some
of
this.
But
this
is
a
new
one.
C
C
E
I
believe
mr
lukens
is
correct
that,
whether
the
whether
it's
flawed
or
not,
I
think
the
intentions
are
for
personal
responsibility
to
the
administration
and
the
council
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
what
the
discussion
is
is
about
is
an
attempt
to
bring
personal
counsel,
accountability
to
those
positions.
B
O
O
And
this
ordinance
will
establish
adjusted,
seasonal,
employee
and
intern
wages.
So
I
did
do
some
a
little
bit
of
work
on
this
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
our
so
right.
Now
seasonal
employees
are
14
50
to
18,
and
then
college
interns
are
15
to
20
an
hour.
So
I'm
being
a
union
guy
myself,
I
kind
of
needed
to
do
some
research
to
figure
out
what
are
like
comparative
wages.
O
It
would
be
19.13
an
hour
starting
part-time
and
then
twenty
four
dollars
and
eight
cents
an
hour
for
full
time.
So
I
mean
I'm
all
for
workers
steve,
whether
they're,
seasonal
or
not.
You
know
making
a
comparative
wage,
but
I
think
I
would
have
a
hard
time
seeing
how
we
can
justify
wages.
This
hive,
when
it's
comparable
and
almost
identical
to
what
even
our
police
and
firefighters
are
making.
C
O
E
E
C
F
O
E
D
D
Off
the
starting
wage
is
that
based
off
of
whether
or
not
they're
a
return,
seasonal
or
correct
first
time?
Yes,
so
that's
one
thing
that
you
need
to
keep
in
mind.
I
mean
they're,
not
gonna
person's,
not
gonna,
come
in
and
start
out
at
18
an
hour
when
you
look
at
the
other
companies,
you
know
you
can
go
to
mcdonald's
and
flip
burgers
for
15
an
hour
you're
gonna
go.
D
You
know,
work
out,
weedy
down
the
side
of
the
highway
and
everything
else
for
eleven
dollars.
Or
would
you
go
flip
burgers?
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
which
way
to
go
with
it,
but
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
become
more
competitive
with
our
offerings,
maybe
not
on
the
top
end
there,
but
at
least
from
the
starting
standpoint.
If
we
want
to
attract
seasonal
help.
O
O
It
be
an
option
for
any
other
city
employees
that
wanted
to
pick
up
some
additional
overtime.
If
we're
not
able
to
do
this,
that
they
that
we
could
open
up
overtime
opportunities
to
employees
that
we
already
have
and
maybe
alleviate
some
of
the
staffing
problems.
Is
that
an
option
or
is
it
or
is
there
interest
in
that
or
not.
O
E
D
E
E
O
B
C
C
O
O
B
O
K
A
link
at
youtube
right,
I
have
a
suggestion,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
company
called
vimeo
and
you
can
put
all
the
any
kind
of
footage
anything
you
want
on
there
and
we
could
stream
it
that
way.
That
way.
Youtube
which
is
a
publicly
traded
company,
doesn't
have
any
control
of
what
we
do
and
we
can
put
the
council
meetings
on
through
that
way.
Yeah.
O
B
It's
a
really
good
question,
so
we
have
a
public
records
policy.
How
long
do
we
maintain
the
videos
who
maintains
the
videos
right
if
we
actually
maintain
hard
copies,
because
if
vimeo
goes
down,
youtube
goes
down,
we're
gonna
have
to
store
those
on
site
right
and
so
that
that's
where
the
video
you
know
console
videos
can
be
a
gigabyte
each
right
for
each
meeting.
So
it
starts
eating
up
space
if
you
store
it
on
the
server
side
or
the
city,
which
is
something
to
keep
in
mind.
F
B
Charter
provision
says
you
know
we
re-air
it
twice
a
week
and
we
have
a
court
case
that
says
that,
having
it
available
all
the
time,
the
stream
satisfies
that
we.
If
we
do
provision
I'd,
want
to
define
broadcast.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
you
know
we're
very
clear
about
what
the
legal
rights
of
the
city
are,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
rise
into
a
corner
and
then
we're
trapped
and
then
you're
inviting
a
lawsuit
at
that
point,
for
something
we're
already
doing
voluntarily
without
coercion
from
council
or
anybody
else.
D
Another
thing
to
keep
in
mind,
mind
you,
I
am
all
for
them
being
aired
without
a
doubt.
However,
we've
run
into
a
number
of
circumstances
where
there
have
been
technical
difficulties
and
we've
been
unable
to
hold
a
council
meeting
that
evening,
because
of
it
some
of
the
things
in
zoning
planning
are
very
time
specific.
D
E
O
Mr
president,
I
had
a
comment.
I
I
see
it
says
that
video
recordings,
I
wonder,
would
it
be
sufficient
just
to
have
audio
recordings.
I
mean
that
would
be
an
option.
At
least
this
way,
or
even
at
the
video
recordings
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
it
go,
live
or
immediately
be
on
whichever
platform
we
could
have
a
video
recorder
set
up
here
and
still
do
the
meeting
as
a
last-ditch
effort.
B
Most
most
right,
most
audio
recordings
are
for
purposes
of
creating
minutes
and
minutes
are
the
official
record
and
then
for
most
communities.
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
what
we
do
or
don't
do
for
most
communities.
Once
you
make
the
minutes,
the
audio
is
deleted,
because
that's
what
the
public
records
law
says
you
can
do
so
most
people
do
that
they
don't
store
the
audio
recording
they
transcribe
it
into
minutes,
and
then
that's
your
official
record
from
that
point
on
so.
B
E
E
C
Well,
I've
always
known-
and
I've
tried
to
make
the
public
known,
that
the
actual
document
that
is
legal
dot
is
the
documentation.
Those
minutes
are
approved,
it's
not
the
video
so
much.
Those
are
more
of
a
fallback
and
I've
off
and
we've
also
got
written
in
the
charter
that
anybody
resident
or
anybody
for
that
matter.
That
would
want
a
copy
of
what
takes
place
on
council.
If
this
citizen
person
was
to
present
their
own
media,
they
got
it
at
no
cost.
C
E
E
E
What
is
not
on
the
agenda
that
I
want
to
talk
about
real,
quick
and
we
we
can
well.
This
is
coming
to
us
next
week
is
been
brought
to
my
attention.
Concern
about
the
fireworks
ordinance,
that's
in
front
of
us
suggestion
that
we
should
think
about
putting
a
a
timeline
like
11
o'clock
or
midnight,
or
something
like
that.
So
so
there
aren't
fireworks
going
off
at
two
and
three
o'clock
in
the
morning.
I
think
that's
a
good
suggestion.
E
E
K
C
C
Well,
I'm
sure
that
most
of
us
remember,
we
were
talking
about
putting
a
water
line
that
odot
had
wanted
water
line,
put
down
off
of
their
akron
watchworth
that
we're
located
after
I've
been
watching.
You
remember
that
so
I
was
wondering
what
happened
about
that.
I
haven't
heard
anything
more
about
that
and
then
on
the
rumor
in
I'm
wearing
I'm
wondering
about
some
discussions
again
tied
back
to
odot
that
maybe
odot
properties
being
looked
at
for
an
impound
lot
for
norton.
F
E
E
D
K
C
N
K
Agreements
for
for
natural
gas-
I
know
that
doesn't
fall
under
me,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
look
at.
I
know
that
the
prices
are
really
high
on
gas
right
now,
but
I
think
they're
going
to
continue
to
get
higher.
I
think
we're
out
of
that
contract
right
now,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
to
get
something
locked
down.