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A
A
It's
1
30.
I'd
like
to
call
the
February
20th
2023
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
Transportation
Commission
to
order
thought
off
with
roll
call.
Commissioner
Varnell
here,
commissioner
Littlefield
here,
commissioner
Hale
here
Sir
Mr
shoe
line
here.
Commissioner
Winn
here,
commissioner
George
and
commissioner
Cornett.
B
A
D
All
right,
you
got
a
Stanley
standard
monthly
report
in
front
of
you.
As
of
February
14th.
We
have
got
235
intersections
running
a
leading
pedestrian
interval.
There's
also
a
discussion
about
that,
and
we
are
pausing
on
future
rollouts,
because
the
manufacturer
for
our
controllers
is
making
an
internal
software
change
which
will
allow
us
to
run
a
leading
pedestrian
interval
from
two
phases
at
one
time
currently
would
have
to.
We
would
have
to
put
an
intersection
on
pedestrian
recall
to
make
this
possible
what
this
will.
D
So,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
pausing
until
the
new
software
comes
out
and
then
we'll
be
able
to,
then
we
will
continue
on
because
this
will
keep
us
from
having
having
to
go
back
and
revisit
all
235
controllers,
where
it's
currently
running
I
do
not
know
when,
when
that's
coming
out,
not
on
your
report,
but
as
of
today,
we've
received
32
participation,
applications
or
inquiries
for
the
ASAP
program,
and
this
week
we
should
be
having
our
first
on-site
meeting
with
a
with
one
of
our
applicants
and
that's
where
we
are.
A
D
D
The
Rockwell
Avenue
project
is
going
to
be
widening
from
West
Memorial
Road
to
Northwest
150th
Street,
and
it
will
include
this
intersection.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
it's
appropriate
for
a
traffic
signal
to
go
into
regulate
the
intersection,
which
is
why
this
item
is
on
the
consent.
Perfect
agenda,
all.
A
D
I
don't
have
a
time
frame
on
it.
I
do
know
that
plans
are
well
into
development,
so
I
would
anticipate
if
potentially
construction
may
start.
This
calendar
year
perfect.
A
A
Item
is
approved,
we're
all
in
favor.
If
there's
no,
if
there's
no
objection
from
up
here,
I
want
to
make
two
changes
to
the
item.
Five
first
one
is
I
want
to
move
up
5i
to
make
it
the
second
thing
we
talk
so
Mr
Johnson's
people
can
talk
about
both
issues
and
then
move
on
and
then,
when
it
gets
to
items,
D
E,
F,
G,
H,
I'm,
going
to
read
them
all
in
at
one
time
and
then
have
everybody
talk
at
one
time
and
then
we
can
break
it
out
after
that.
F
Afternoon,
Mark
zitzel
with
Johnson
and
Associates
address
is
one
East
Sheridan
Avenue.
This
is
an
application
that
was
before
you
I
believe
last
month
seeking
approval
of
on-street
parking
here
we
do
have
some
boards
we're
happy
to
present
as
follow-up
to
your
last
meeting,
which
I
think
at
this
point
we
would
defer
to
the
commission
to
see
if
you
have
additional
questions.
H
All
right,
I
want
to
explain
my
concern
at
the
time
that
we
were
first
presented
with.
This
item
was
on
street
parking
in
a
residential
neighborhood
and
by
the
grace
of
these
folks
and
commissioner
powers
from
the
Planning
Commission,
we
were
able
to
sit
down
and
meet
and
look
and
see
if
there
were
any
alternatives.
H
What
I
did
what
I
learned
and
what
I
appreciate
is
what
the
what
the,
what
the
Redevelopment
is,
has
a
couple
of
different,
very
favorable
purposes.
One
of
them
is
to
save
the
church
structure,
which
is
outstanding,
which
would
be
used
for
I,
believe
four
residential
units
and
then
a
new
build
structure,
which
is
a
two-story
structure
which
I
believe
has
12
total
around
500
square
foot
Apartments.
That's.
H
F
A
A
Now
all
right
item
has
passed
would
all
in
favor,
okay,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
now
to
item
five
I
Timothy
Johnson
President,
Johnson
Associates.
I
Caleb
Morgan
Johnson
Associates
Wendy
Sheridan.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
for
hearing
this
item.
What
is
happening
here
is
a
traffic
signal
was
previously
approved
by
this
commission
to
the
east
of
the
one
we're
proposing
now,
and
that
was
due
to
a
connection
that
was
supposed
to
happen
in
that
time
from
the
North
in
conjunction
with
the
neighborhood.
Well,
since
that
time
the
neighborhood
has
been
built
out
blocking
off
that
connection
from
the
north.
I
So
our
application,
we
worked
with
the
staff
on
this
for
a
warrant
analysis
to
prove
that
the
new
location
warrants
a
signal
and
then
a
warrant
analysis
to
prove
that
the
old
location
does
no
longer
warrants
a
signal
due
to
the
connection
from
the
north
no
longer
being
there.
So
we
appreciate
staff
working
with
us
on
this
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
All
right
well,
just
as
you
heard
Mr
Morgan
summarize,
since
the
original
signal
at
Jim,
Murphy
Boulevard
was
approved
in
2017.
The
original
commercial
development
concept
for
this
for
the
land
on
the
north
side
of
178th
Street
changed
at
one
point
in
time.
It
did
have
a
commercial
driveway
which
aligned
with
Jim
Murphy
Boulevard
and
when
traffic
from
the
commercial
side
and
the
residential
side
were
combined.
D
D
A
signal
doesn't
have
enough
volume
on
the
south
side
of
the
road
and
it's
not
really
subject
to
any
further
growth
and
that
that
addition
also
has
two
entrance
points
onto
178th,
Street
and
the,
which
is
why
you're
being
asked
on
the
in
the
first
part
of
the
item,
to
basically
remove
or
send
the
approval
of
at
of
a
signal
at
Jim,
Murphy
and
then
Johnson
Associates
on
behalf
of
a
another
commercial
development
which
is
called
the
Portland
Power
Center
is
projecting
that
under
fully
built
out
conditions,
they're
predicting
that
the
driveway
on
the
east
side
of
this
property
they'll
have
two
on
178th
Street
and
three
access
points
on
Portland
Avenue
but
they're
predicting
that
their
driveway,
their
easternmost
driveway
on
Northwest,
178th
Street,
will
meet
signal
warrants.
D
So
action
on
the
item
will
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
commission.
We
note
that
the
applicants
indicated
that
they'll
bear
responsibility
for
roadway
widening
for
a
turn
lane
from
178th
Street
into
the
development
and
for
construction
of
design
and
construction.
On
the
signal,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
might
have
on
the
application.
The.
A
D
That
would
occur
at
a
time
when
there's
there
may
be
very
little
if
any
traffic
coming
out
of
the
commercial
development,
most
commercial
developments,
especially
for
retail,
aren't
busy
at
7
A.M
when
most
when
the
typical
morning
rush
hour
is
getting
started
so
in
the
morning
it
should
not
have
any
influence
and
the
and
the
in
the
evening,
probably
not
okay.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
J
A
J
Oh
Kyle
Meriweather
2131,
Northwest,
39th
Street,
the
address
of
my
business,
what's
in
First
costume
store.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
You
have
up
to
five
minutes,
okay
great,
so
this
was
to
put
in
a
stop
sign
on
Northwest
39th
Street
and
North
Barnes
Avenue
there's
been
a
new,
a
a
streetscape
for
that
block
and
on
that
intersection
sees
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
and
vehicular
traffic
as
well
as
now
we're
starting
to
have
bicyclists
and
and
people
that
are
living
nearby.
J
D
All
right,
you've
got
our
comments
before
you.
This
particular
intersection
does
not
meet
any
of
the
city's
criteria
for
considering
always
stop
control
from
a
traffic
control
perspective.
D
D
At
this
time
there
are
no
extenuating
circumstances
present
because
there
are
no
issues
with
decision
site
distance
with
permanent
view
obstructions.
So
action
on
this
item
will
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
commission
and
just
know
that
the
item
doesn't
meet
any
of
the
city
or
metcd
criteria
for
always
stop
control,
and
but
the
applicant
has
provided
a
petition
demonstrating
local
support
for
the
requested
traffic
control.
A
H
Many
roundabout
would
have
been
a
perfect
element
to
to
have
here.
This
is
a
if
any
of
you
have
ever
been
here.
H
This
is
probably
one
of
the
most
pronounced
crosswalks
I've,
seen
in
Ward
2
for
sure
it's
a
it's
I
didn't
read
the
time
of
day
that
any
traffic
study
was
done
here,
but
if
you
were
to
go
there
late
at
night,
you
know
in
the
early
hours
of
the
morning
there
is
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
there
and
it's
my
belief
and
we've
discussed
many
times
with
our
ASAP
findings-
that
multiple
things
are
what
calm
traffic
and
make
environments
safer
for
others.
H
So,
regardless
of
the
irregardless
of
the
the
the
non-supportive
staff
studies
on
this,
but
including
the
the
petition
work
and
just
the
character
of
the
area,
I
think
that
this
is
a
perfect
candidate
for
stop
controls.
K
Mr
chair,
yes,
sir,
would
this
one
be
maybe
useful
to
talk
about
item
5c
along
with
it,
because
they
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand
just
an
idea
of
maybe
bringing
that
both
those
two
aspects
together
to
commissioner
lofo's
point
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
different
things
to
really
control
that
okay.
A
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
read
in
5c,
if
you're,
okay,
with
that
to
talk
about
that
also,
okay,
just
a
second.
Let
me
read
in
5c
Kyle
V,
Merryweather
owner
operator,
whips
and
first
costumes
to
one
change:
the
speed
limit
on
Northwest
39th
Street
between
North
about
Dina,
Altadena,
Avenue
and
North
Pennsylvania
Avenue
from
35
miles
per
hour
to
25
miles
per
hour
or
subpart
2
change.
The
speed
limit
on
Northwest
39th
Street
between
North
Young
boulevard,
slash,
Northwest,
40th,
Street
and
North
Pennsylvania
Avenue
from
35
to
25
miles
an
hour.
So
sir.
J
It
won't
be
too
long
in
regards
to
on
the
speed
limit.
I
just
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
there
is
a
daycare
center
on
Northwest
39th
Street
in
Altadena,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
signs
out.
That
say:
drive
like
your
kids
live
here
and
stuff
like
that.
The
speed
limit
35
miles
per
hour
is
just
way
too
fast
for
for
that
strip
of
street,
especially
with
the
new
Street
Escape
project,
and
especially
with
the
future
plans
for
that
neighborhood
Paseo
District
is
25
miles
per
hour.
J
Automobile
automobile
alley
is
now
25
miles
per
hour,
and
a
plaza
district
is
also
25
miles
per
hour.
So
on
this
becoming
a
new
district
for
the
community
here,
I
think
it
should
also
follow
the
20
25
miles
per
hour.
Guideline
I
know
that
some
of
the
studies
said
that
the
recommended
30
miles
per
hour,
be
the
speed
limit.
I
also
think
that's
still
too
fast,
just
just
given
the
nature
of
their
pedestrians.
There's
more
businesses,
more
shops
and
just
more
people
in
general
that
are
going
to
be
using
this.
This
street.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
do
you
have
comments
now.
B
K
And
I
guess
my
big
comment
on
that
one
is
the
stop.
Condition
is
great,
but
I
think
it
also
sometimes
includes
a
false
sense
of
security
for
pedestrians
that,
especially
when
there
hadn't
been
a
stop
condition
there
before
there's
there's
the
expectation
that
a
car
is
going
to
stop,
but
sometimes
it
just
it
has
a
normal
behavioral
patterns
that
it'll
just
keep
going.
K
K
L
A
little
bit
better,
then
slowing
down
traffic
I
do
agree
that,
if
we're
trying
to
make
a
place
here,
which
is
what
the
neighborhood
is,
is
that's
what
it's
becoming
that
we
need
to
be
intentional
about
giving
it
the
best
chance
to
survive
in
giving
people
the
best
chance
to
survive,
but
also
just
making
it
a
really
habitable
place
for
people
versus
just
trying
to
get
people.
Cars
from
point
to
point
be
as
fast
as
possible,
so
I
agree
and
I
will
be
voting
yes
on
both.
H
Probably
just
going
to
repeat
myself,
but
you
know
my
experience
and
my
observations
and
my
education
has
been
that
the
more
traffic
coming
measures
we
could
put
in
a
spot,
the
better
the
point
of
the
you
know
giving
the
back
and
parking
a
chance.
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
help
with
that.
H
This
is
compared
to
other
business,
Improvement
districts
and
streetscape
Commercial
streetscape
areas
in
word
two.
This
could
be
one
of
the
most
heavily
pedestrian
trafficked
areas,
commercial
areas
in
in
the
ward
and
I
I
travel
that
route
very,
very
often
because
of
where
I
live
and
how
I
get
to
the
lows
on
39th,
Street
It's,
just
sometimes
I
got
a
whole
truck
full
of
stuff
I,
don't
want
to
blow
out
so
I'm,
not
using
I-44,
there's
so
little
other
uses
on
that
stretch
of
road
besides
office.
H
M
I
understand
and
what
concerns
me
is
that
we
looked
at
a
stretch
of
roadway
on
Northwest
23rd
years
ago,
expecting
more
pedestrian
traffic
and
just
a
whole
host
of
reasons,
and
we
agreed
to
that
and
we
lowered
the
speed
limit.
A
funny
thing
that
happened,
though,
was
the
reverse
happened
that
people
were
driving
at
the
85
percentile
at
a
higher
speed
than
whenever
we
changed
it.
M
So,
if
I
had
my
choice
between
the
three
options
between
the
I
mean
that
we
have
whether
the
stop
sign
or
speed
or
both
I
would
lean
towards
the
stop
sign
first
and
see
how
that
does.
If
it
still
is
a
problem,
then
I
would
come
back
and
then
ask
for
a
reduction
of
the
speed
limit,
but
sometimes
when
we
mess
with
the
speed
limit,
the
opposite
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
occurs
and
for
that
reason,
I
would
prefer
that
we
go
with
a
stop
sign
now.
A
A
G
G
Over
here
sorry
go
ahead:
go
ahead
as
I
read
the
staff's
notes
from
the
Bella
light
study.
It
appears
that
actually,
the
the
section
of
the
road
could
be
divided
into
two
and
that
the
Bell
Light
number
is
actually
supported.
Lowering
the
speed
limit
to
25
on
that
first
section
from
Barnes
to
Penn
and
the
other
foot
to
30,
which
seems
reasonable
too
I,
I
I,
think
that
was
something
we
should
consider
too,
because
it's
unusual
that
the
Bell
light
was
very
obvious
that
it,
it
came
back
very
strongly
for
25.
E
So
I
can't
speak
to
being
out
there
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
but
I
can
speak
to
on
a
Monday
at
noon.
Looks
like
and
I
purposely
drove
westbound
on
39th
today
and
I
I
went
the
speed
limit
35
miles
an
hour,
and
we've
done
so
much
work
to
make
that
just
two
lanes
it
felt
like
I
was
going.
A
hundred
yeah
and
cars
were
going
by
me
at
35
and
I.
E
It
did
not
feel
safe,
so
I
went
down
to
whatever
that
Far
Western
street
is
that
we're
talking
about
and
I
turned
around
and
came
back
at
25,
and
this
time
I
was
doing
25
and
thinking
about
how
the
stop
sign
would
work
and
the
stop
sign
doesn't
work
for
me
there.
It
just
didn't
feel
like
that
was
going
to
solve
anything
because
there
is
no
north-south
traffic
I'm
going
to
call
it
traffic
again.
E
I
can't
speak
to
pedestrians,
but
it
didn't
feel
right,
but
I'm
going
to
be
fully
supporting
this
speed,
limit
reduction
and
I.
Just
don't
see
where
the
stop
sign
works.
The
applicant
mentioned
to
slow
people
down.
He
didn't
mention
anything
about
pedestrian
and
I.
Just
I
always
talk
about
red
I
know
he's
not
here
anymore.
We
have
a
new
commissioner,
but
he
always
told
us
that
stop
signs
refer
right
away
and
he
was
very
adamant
about
that.
And
that's
not
what
we're
he's
asking
for
here
so
yeah.
That's
why
I
wanted
an
input.
L
L
D
Well,
39th
is
currently
classified
I,
believe
it's
marked
as
a
neighborhood
street
once
upon
a
time
it
was
an
art.
It
was
one
of
the
minor
arterials,
but
it's
been
it's
been
reclassified.
23Rd
Street
carries
a
a
major
arterial,
well
major
and
depending
on
where
your
major
in
minor
arterial
classification.
B
H
H
It's
and
I
have
I've
traveled
that
that
Corridor
on
23rd
Street
fairly
often
fairly
recently,
and
it's
so
congested
that
I
think
if
we
were
to
re-study
the
traffic,
they
were
probably
us
approaching
25
better
than
it
was
at
the
time
and
I
I'm
going
to
did
on
my
colleague,
commissioner
Cornett
that
it
may
not
be
traffic
that
we're
trying
to
provide
a
safer
environment
for
necessarily
with
the
four-way
stop.
H
But
I
think
it
is
an
advantageous
thing
to
do
for
the
volume
of
pedestrians,
which
is
remarkable
at
certain
times
of
the
day
in
evening
and
weekends,
and
during
the
pride
events,
Etc
I,
just
don't
see
a
reason
why
we
would
argue
with
the
petitioners,
because
they're
they're,
that
is
a
very
healthy
and
well
well
accomplished
petitions,
so
I
still
Stand
My,
Ground
I'm,
going
to
support
both
and
I
hope
that
my
colleagues
do
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
we
go
on
now
to
item
5c
I've
already
read
it
in.
We
haven't
had
staff
input
on
this
one.
Have
we
no
okay
staff?
Please.
D
D
The
item
is
requested
by
the
applicant
to
take
the
speed
limit
change
from
35
to
25,
from
Penn
to
Altadena
and
as
an
alternative
staff
has
offered
taking
the
speed
limit
from
35
to
25,
but
it'd
be
from
Penn
to
Young's,
and
the
reason
for
doing
that
is
because,
during
the
over
the
course
of
our
speed
studies,
there
is
a
difference
in
the
built
environment
when
you
get
between
the
area
or
the
portion
of
39th
Street
West
of
Young's
versus
a
portion
of
39th
Street
to
the
east.
B
D
Speed
distributions
speak
to
that
because
they
show
we've
got
a
50th,
percentile
and
85th
percentile
speed
to
the
west
of
of
Young's.
Basically,
that
runs
closer
to
the
posted
speed
limit.
You
go
to
the
east
of
that
where
you
enter
the
39th
Street
business
district
and
the
speed
limit
naturally
has
dropped
down,
given
the
fact
that
the
roadway
is
narrowed,
there's
angle
parking
along
both
sides,
so
it
is
a
different
built
environment
and
drivers
are
responding
differently
to
it.
D
D
Beyond
that,
like
I
said
two
different
methods
were
used
to
evaluate
it.
We
used
the
Bella
light
methodology
as
one
means,
and
then
we
use
the
nchrp
1776
speed
limit
settings
tool
as
another
means
of
evaluating
it,
both
produced
relatively
similar
results
and
our
on-site
speed
observations,
kind
of
corroborated
what
we
were
seeing
from
those
predictive
models.
So
you
have
in
this
particular
case
staff
would
would
have
a
preference
of
recommending
part
two
over
part
one
simply
because
driver
compliance
is
naturally
more
in
line
with
the
with
part.
D
Two
look
based
on
the
different
roadway
limits,
so
between
altadine
and
Young's
speed
is
pro,
is
closer
to
35,
and
it
would
remain
that
way,
even
if
posted
lower,
but
posting
it
lower
from
Young's
to
the
east
would
probably
be
well
respected
beyond
that
I've.
Nothing
further
to
add
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
A
A
A
Now
we
go
to
items
five
D
E,
F,
G
and
H
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
them
all
in
and
then
we'll
start
talking
about
it
and
then
we'll
see
what
comes
about
okay,
so
starting
with
5D
Patrick,
Duffy,
intern
superintendent,
Middle
School,
principal
John,
Rex,
Charter,
School,
always
stock
control
at
Dewey,
Avenue
and
West
Sheraton
Avenue,
five
E
years
same
applicant
traffic
signal
at
Dewey
Avenue
in
West,
Sheridan
Avenue,
5f
same
applicant
Northbound
left
turn
restriction
on
Dewey
Avenue
at
West,
Sheraton
Avenue
affected
from
7
30
a.m,
to
8
A.M
Monday
through
Friday,
and
from
3
P.M
to
4
P.M
on
Monday,
Tuesday,
Thursday
and
Friday,
and
from
2
P.M
to
3
P.M
on
Wednesday
school
days.
A
5G
same
applicant
always
stop
control
at
South,
Walker
Avenue
in
West,
California,
Avenue,
five
age
same
applicant
traffic
signal
at
South,
Walker
Avenue
in
West,
California
Avenue,
so
is
the
applicant
here.
I
am
I,
sir,
can
I
have
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
as
much
time
as
you
need
as
long
as
we
don't
go
too
long.
Thank.
N
N
N
We
are
now
a
pre-k
through
eighth
grade
that
cover
both
sides
of
the
road,
the
elementary
school
and
then
the
middle
school
has
taken
over
the
McAlpine
Center
on
California
and
Walker.
So
the
the
the
area
has
changed
drastically,
as
well
with
the
West
Village
and
those
businesses
expanding
and
increasing
the
traffic
that
is
down
there.
The
situation
that
we
have
is
when
we
first
started,
we
were
asking
and
we
were
looking
at
200
kids.
We
are
now
close
to
800
students
by
the
end
of
next
year.
N
We
should
be
around
800
students
in
and
out
of
there
and,
as
you
know,
we
do
not
have
buses
so
when
we
say
800
participants,
students
moving
in
and
out,
that
is
800
families
moving,
give
or
take
siblings,
moving
in
and
out
of
that
area.
So
that
is
a
high
level
of
traffic
and
very
small
bursts
of
time
which
we
are
aware
of,
but
the
the
dangers
that
those
areas
that
we
are
visiting
about
are
pretty
severe.
You
know
we
did
have
an
accident
this
year.
Fortunately,
the
injuries
are
were
minor.
N
It
is
hard
to
talk
about
a
fortunate
pedestrian
Collision
car
wreck,
but
as
a
situation
unfolded
that
is
as
bad
as
fortunate
as
you
can
be
when
a
situation
like
that
takes
place.
So
again,
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
each
one
of
these
items.
I'll
speak
on
briefly
on
each
one.
Certainly
the
first
one
is
the
the
no
left
turn
coming
off
of
Dewey
and
on
to
Sheridan.
That
is
one
of
the
most
dangerous
areas.
N
There
is
a
drop-off
right
there
in
the
morning
where
we
drop
off
nearly
200
students
coming
out
of
there
and
that
traffic
coming
out
is.
There
is
cross
traffic
coming
heading
west
on
Sheraton
to
do
the
loop
around
the
school.
It
is
incredibly
dangerous
to
come
out
and
make
that
left
turn.
So
we
asked
that
first
and
foremost
that
that
be
restricted
to
a
right-hand
turn
during
those
hours.
I
know
the
hours
seem
strange,
but
our
Wednesdays
are
short
release
days,
and
that
is
the
reason
for
the
change
in
hours.
N
Certainly
that
would
eliminate
a
lot
of
that
cross
traffic
where,
when
they
try
to
leave
that
air
area
there
crossing
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
trying
to
turn
and
go
back
to
the
West
on
on
Sheridan,
which
just
you
know,
increases
the
the
likelihood
of
an
injury
there
and
an
accident
going
across
those
two
lanes.
So,
first
and
foremost,
that
is
one
that
we
are
asking
for,
certainly
immediately,
if
possible,
moving
from
there
staying
at
that
same
intersection,
the
four-way
stop
is
is
what
we
would
prefer.
N
Instead
of
the
no
left
turn
it
is.
As
you
go
down
there,
if
you
were
going
up
and
down
there,
you
will
see
that
there
are
traffic
lights
on
nearly
every
intersection,
except
for
the
one
that
has
the
most
traffic
and
the
most
kids.
So
when
you
go
up
and
down
there
and
you're
expecting
a
light
every
block,
and
then
you
have
one
that
has
no
light.
Most
people
don't
realize
that
there
is
a
crosswalk
there.
N
N
So
for
us
a
four-way
stop,
although
we
know
that
it
would
slow
down,
traffic
would
certainly
make
that
Crossing
for
families
and
students
a
much
safer,
not
only
during
the
school
day,
but
that
is
a
quite
a
bit
of
walking
traffic
outside
of
the
school
hours.
So
as
we
know
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
safe
for
the
students,
the
the
traffic
and
the
the
pedestrians
that
go
there
after
hours,
walking
back
down
to
the
West,
Village
District
or
back
to
parking
after
ball
games
it,
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
traffic.
N
So
those
are
those
are
the
first
two,
of
course
a
light
would
be
wonderful.
People
are
used
to
the
light
to
every
single
block,
so
adding
the
light
would
probably
not
make
that
much
more
of
a
difficult
situation
than
what
they've
seen
the
previous
three
blocks
going
through
there.
So
adding
another
one
doesn't
seem
that
it
would
slow
down
that
flow
of
traffic
any
more
than
the
previous
three
coming
up
to
it.
So
we
would
we
would
love
to
in
the
future.
N
We
know
that
that
is
something
that
would
have
to
be
more
of
a
long-term
solution
and
would
not
be
able
to
happen
immediately,
but
the
consideration
of
that
when
possible
would
would
be
one
that
we
would
certainly
want
to
consider
and
have
you
all
consider
for
that.
The
other
two
requests.
N
We
know
that
Walker
is
busy,
I
mean
I've,
you've
seen
it
you've
seen
the
pictures
that,
if,
if
hit,
writes
and
I
believe
some
of
the
pictures
show
when
the
lights
are
out,
that
traffic
going
up
and
down
Walker
can
back
up
a
very,
very
long
distance
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time,
especially
when
drop
off
and
coming
in
for
employment
from
the
south
moving
into
the
downtown
area,
it
is,
is
all
happening.
N
At
the
same
time,
I
will
say
that
a
stop
sign
on
California
is
that
that
is
there
on
California
is
great,
but
that
traffic
is
minimal
it
the
flow
of
the
school
traffic.
We've
we've
make
it.
Where
that
we
try
to
keep
people
off
California
on
purpose,
knowing
that
the
difficulty
of
getting
onto
Walker
is
is
nearly
impossible
at
the
different
times
of
the
day,
so
the
traffic
runs
around
the
school
to
keep
people
off
of
California
coming
from
the
West
to
the
east,
so
that
they're
not
trying
to
turn
on
to
to
Walker.
N
N
The
stop
sign,
although
it
would
be
burdensome
for
those
that
are
traveling
if,
if
you
have
ever
traveled
that
way
and
you
catch
the
light
on
Sheridan
and
you
see
a
green
light
on
Reno,
if
you
get
there
just
fast
enough,
you
can
make
both
of
those
lights
and
you
don't
pay
a
whole
lot
of
attention
to
those
that
are
trying
to
go
across
that
crosswalk
right
there.
N
The
light
would
be
the
the
last
request
there
again.
They
they
are
seeing
these
lights.
If
you
get
further
north
into
downtown,
there
is
a.
There
is
a
light.
Every
half
block
I
mean
it
I
crossed
four
of
them
to
get
here.
They
are
used
to
that
once
they
get
to
downtown
so
that
half
block
on
California
would
not
be
out
of
the
norm
of
what
takes
place
once
you
get
past
California
and
flowing
downtown.
So
all
of
those
are
are
what
we
would
would
like
to
discuss.
N
O
You
hi,
my
name
is
Kelly
hadsall
213,
Harrogate,
Drive
I
have
worked
in
various
buildings
on
Walker
Avenue,
since
2002.
I'm,
a
genrex
parent,
helped
open
the
building.
We
call
it
year
one
day,
one.
We
are
the
or
original
rocket
parents,
and
so
I
come
to
you
as
a
parent
I,
come
to
you
as
a
parent
with
a
child
both
in
elementary
school
and
middle
school.
I,
frequently
crossed
that
street
and
I
come
to
you
as
a
morning,
commuter
and
I.
O
Ask
that
you
really
listen
to
the
heart
and
the
growth
and
the
success
of
this
school
and
how
it's
changed
downtown
and
how
we
wanted
it
downtown
and
we
got
what
we
wanted
and
it's
growing
and
we're
asking
for
your
help.
We're
asking
for
your
help
and
what
we've
seen
with
our
kids
and
we
want
them
to
feel
safe.
We
have
some
really
neat
electives
that
teach
those
kids
how
to
be
good
residents
of
a
downtown
urban
area
as
they
walk
to
the
libraries
and
they
have
an
urban
biking
elective
in
Middle
School.
O
P
So,
if
we're
not
going
to
put
our
crosswalks
and
make
our
crosswalks
bright
and
shiny
for
all
these
babies
in
our
our
downtown
workers
that
commute
our
parents,
our
babies
with
disabilities
and
Walkers
and
wheelchairs
I,
don't
know
why
anybody
in
this
one
room
would
be
against
having
a
traffic
signal
at
those
corners,
because
that's
the
only
School
in
this
whole
city
in
the
middle
of
downtown
traffic,
and
we
can't
afford
for
another
baby
to
be
hit.
P
P
So
we
need
to
go
above
and
beyond
our
minimum
building
standards.
Those
little
white
lines
that
you
see
on
that
crosswalk
I,
don't
think
that's
adequate!
It
looks
real
cute
and
all,
but
maybe
put
some
big
wide
white
stripes
or
something
to
make
that
stand
out
more
because
right
there
at
that
corner,
as
you
can
see,
of
those
babies,
Crossing.
Q
Q
They
come
before
you
today,
like
Kelly,
a
down
to
I
work,
downtown
I'm,
a
downtown
commuter
have
been
long
before
I
had
kids
at
John
Rex
and
have
commuted
down
Sheridan
that
entire
time
since
I've
worked
downtown
for
over
a
decade,
I
have
two
students
at
John,
Rex
one's
in
second
grade
and
one's
in
third
grade,
and
we
love
being
a
part
of
the
downtown
community.
We
love
our
school.
We
love
that
our
school
doesn't
have
a
library,
because
my
kids
walk
to
the
downtown
library.
Q
Q
Every
morning
it's
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
to
say
other
than
it's
an
absolute
mess.
I
mean
it's,
it's
very
difficult
for
families
to
drop
their
kids
off
in
the
morning,
and
we
understand
that
we
are
a
part
of
the
downtown
community
and
certainly
do
not
want
to
impede
people
from
coming
into
downtown.
We
support
downtown
and
we
you
know,
but
the
truth
of
it
is
it
is
impeding
traffic
anyway.
Q
People
have
to
slow
down
because
there's
huge
backups
they
have
to
slow
down
because
they
can't
get
through
that
area
anyway,
right
now,
because
of
all
of
the
backup
on
traffic,
whenever
it's
drop
off
and
pick
up,
and
so
the
more
that
we
could
put
traffic
controls,
there
would
make
it
much
safer
for
both
the
parents
that
are
dropping
off
for
the
kids
that
are
getting
out
and
for
drivers
that
are
going
through
there.
I.
Don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
have
anyone.
Q
That's
commuting
in
you
know
in
the
morning
and
have
to
worry
about
going
through
and
and
hitting
a
car
hitting
a
kid
anything
like
that,
and
so
our
school
we
have
since
the
tragic
accident.
Earlier
this
year
we
have
taken
several
measures
and
the
city
was
incredibly
responsive
and
we
were
very
thankful
of
putting
the
White
Stripes
though
I
agree.
Q
I
still
don't
think
that
it
is
enough
to
show
drivers
that
there
is
a
crosswalk
there,
but
the
city
was
incredibly
responsive
after
that
incident
happened
so
appreciate
that
we
have
diverted
all
of
our
parents
to
Sheridan
and
Walker
to
try
and
go
in
the
front
door
instead
of
allowing
Crossing
at
Dewey
and
Sheridan,
but
we
cannot
control
human
behavior
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
so
during
drop-off
and
pickup,
but
also
I
mean
we're
there
for
school
assemblies.
Q
We're
there
for
parent-teacher
conferences,
we're
there
for
Valentine's
Day
parties
were
last
week
at
two
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
You
know
I
mean
there's
parents
and
kids
in
that
area
throughout
the
entire
day
and
so
really
feel
strongly
that
having
traffic
control
at
those
two
areas,
though
it
will
slightly
impede
downtown
kind
of
commuters,
I,
think
it
makes
it
safer
for
the
commuters.
It
gives
them
clear.
They
have
to
stop
there,
so
they
don't
go
barreling
through
and
I
believe
it's
worth
it
I
think.
Q
I
know
that
this
has
been
denied
twice
before
and
I.
Think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
it's
worth
impeding
some
traffic
to
make
sure
that
our
kids
are
safe.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
know:
you're
all
volunteers
I
also
serve
as
the
chair
of
the
John
Rex
board.
So
I
speak
here
on
behalf
of
the
board
as
well
of
supporting
all
five
of
these
items
and
really
appreciate
your
consideration.
R
Brian
Hines
920
West
Main,
my
daughter
Evie,
goes
to
school
she's
in
second
grade
I've
stood
at
the
intersection
of
Sheridan
Walker
and
watch
The
Pedestrian
get
struck
the
widths
of
these
roads
and
the
traffic
counts
that
are
eastbound
westbound
on
Sheridan
and,
of
course,
Walker
Avenue
I
believe
the
the
overall
width
is
a
you
know,
is
you
know,
sight
line
security
issue
and
and
danger
to
pedestrians,
trying
to
cross
either
from
Dewey
north-south
and
also
from
our
friends
trying
to
get
to
the
middle
school
across
California.
R
I
know
that
the
school
has
done
everything
they
can.
They've
they've
asked
everybody
utilize,
the
intersection
at
Walker
and
Sheridan.
That's
actually
increased
the
impact
on
on
pedestrians
since
the
the
last
accident
that
happened
and
I
got
to
watch.
I
really
just
hope
you
all
are
in
support
of
helping
improve
the
pedestrian
traffic
at
these
intersections.
Thank
you
thank.
S
Yeah
thanks,
my
name
is
Teresa
trong
and
my
address
is
423
Northeast,
first
Terrace,
so
I
I
live
downtown
I
work
downtown.
My
kids
are
at
school
at
John
Rex
as
well.
Again
we
love
just
like
everybody
else,
love
being
downtown.
We
love
our
kids
being
at
a
downtown
school
and
utilizing
our
crosswalks
and
and
I
I
Echo.
S
What
everybody
else
says,
I
think
the
only
thing
that
I
would
add
to
it
is
that
you
know
with
technology
nowadays
artificial
intelligence,
the
bright
minds
of
city
leaders
as
you
you
all
are
I
think
that
we
could
probably
find
some
sort
of
Middle
Ground
here
and
figure
out.
You
know:
can
we
program
those
lights
in
a
manner
that
makes
sense
for
both
the
city
and
with
the
school?
So
that's
the
only
other
thing,
I'll
add
but
I
Echo.
What
everybody
else
says
thanks.
A
D
Got
five
applications
you
got
three
at
three
at
Dewey
and
Sheridan,
and
two
at
California
and
Walker.
Probably
the
best
place
to
start
would
be
to
look
at
the
Dewey
Sheridan
cases.
D
You've
got
you've
got
two
different
intersection.
Traffic
control
requests
for
you,
they've
got
one
for
always
stop
control
and
you
got
one
for
signalized
control.
Additionally,
you've
got
a
turn
restriction,
but
we'll
get
to
that
one
or
I'll
get
to
that
one
in
just
a
bit.
The
case
for
the
case.
D
Probably
the
biggest
consideration,
if
you're,
considering
the
two
different
types
of
control,
whether
whether
you're
considering
the
always
stop
control
option
or
the
signal
control
option,
is
we
need
anything
that
is
done,
needs
to
be
done
on
basically
a
uniform
basis.
I
mean
everything.
Is
all
these
reports
reference
the
manual
and
uniform
traffic
control
devices?
D
Now
that's
that's
really
a
reference
to
the
fact
that,
like
every
stop
sign
is
red
and
it's
octagonal
with
white
lettering,
but
as
far
as
uniform
traffic
control,
mixing
a
variety
of
traffic
controls,
whether
you're
going
from
a
corridor,
that's
predominantly
signalized
with
signal
control
and
then
introducing
an
all-way.
D
You
might
be
looking
for
some
sort
of
activity
like
someone
Crossing,
and
you
may
not
see
that
you
may
not
be
able
to
see
that
stop
sign,
see
the
difference
between
a
stop
and
a
signal
is
at
least
a
signal
is
going
to
be
out
over
top
of
the
road.
You
should
see
it.
It
could
be
coordinated.
So
that
runs
you
know
and
so
that
during
Peak
traffic
times
it
can
be
used
to
not
or
to
move
a
platoon
of
traffic
through
the
downtown
area
and
more
in
a
more
organized
manner.
D
So
of
the
of
the
two
forms
of
traffic
control,
even
though
neither
one
is
warranted
because
of
the
low
side
street
volumes,
because
Dewey
can
contributes
just
a
fraction
of
the
volume
at
the
at
its
intersection
with
Sheridan.
Likewise,
on
California
over
at
Walker
I
mean
Walker
is
a
primary
carrier
and
Sheridan's
a
primary
carrier.
I
mean
the
city
operates
a
garage
at
the
North
well
at
the
at
the
corner
of
Sheridan
and
Walker
opposite
from
John
Rex.
D
So
from
a
traffic
control
standpoint
of
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
staffed
preference
to
see
something
like
always
stop
control
go
in,
it
would
be.
It
would
be
more
challenging
to
to
keep
front
and
center
in
front
of
people
and
to
have
it
visible
at
all
times.
D
But
arguably,
neither
one
of
these
intersections
merits,
use
of
a
greater
degree
of
signal,
control
and
and
I
know
that
probably
a
good
first
step
that
could
be
implemented
in
a
short-term
basis
at
at
these
intersections
would
be
the
deployment
of
a
school
crossing
guard
which
would
provide
traffic
control
as
needed
when,
when
it's
most
important
for
the
school,
so
I
think
at
this
point
in
time,
I'll
turn
discussion
back
over
to
the
commission
and
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Maybe
just
relative
to
the
Sheridan
Dewey
application.
Well,.
D
Okay,
on
the,
as
far
as
a
left
turn
restriction
goes.
If
you
have,
if
traffic
control
goes
to
something
like
all
waste,
stop
or
signalized
control,
the
left
turn
restriction,
kind
of
becomes
moot
because,
especially
if
you
go
to
something
like
always
stop
control,
because
always
stop
control
is
a
great
method
for
a
great
means
to
accommodate,
turns
and
the
cross
at
Dewey
and
Sheridan
southbound
traffic
is
exceptionally
light.
D
So
a
Northbound
vehicle,
that's
on
Dewey,
wanting
to
turn
left
and
head
West
on
Sheridan
chances
are
especially
if
it's
like
always
top
controlled
or
signal
controlled,
would
have
very
little
interference.
I
know
the
reason.
One
of
the
reasons
for
not
wanting
to
have
allow
left
turns
is
because
it
it
it
delays
vehicles
from
being
able
to
to
clear
the
Queue
at
pickup
time
when
parents
have
picked
up
their
child
and
then
need
to
proceed
into
the
intersection.
D
If
they've,
if
you've
got
someone,
that's
waiting
to
make
a
left
turn
and
because
traffic
conditions
are
heavier
on
Sheridan,
it
could
cause
a
delay
to
the
entire
pickup
process,
which
is
why
I
can
see
why
they're
asking
for
the
turn
restriction,
but
in
the
event
that
it
go,
that
the
intersection
becomes
controlled
by
either
always
stops
or
signals.
The
turn
restriction
doesn't
really
make
any
sense.
A
Okay,
so
the
turn
restriction
is
only
if
nothing
else
is
done.
If
we
do
anything
else,
then
we
don't
need
to
turn
restrictions
right
right,
okay,
got
it
and
you're
recommending
as
staff
not
to
do
a
four-way
stop
at
both
of
the
intersections
because
of
the
amount
of
volume
on
those
roads,
especially
in
the
mornings
in
the
afternoon,
for
people
going
to
work
and
people
coming
from
downtown
yeah.
A
D
Basically,
everything
is
with,
except
with
rare
exception,
is
controlled
using
traffic
signals
and
the
other
thing
is
you
know,
signals
will
give
pedestrians
a
Crossing
time,
because
everything
that
we
put
in
has
got
ramps
and
it's
got
accessible,
pedestrian
signals
with
countdown
timers
and
you
know
in
the
downtown
area
we
would
use
a
leading
pedestrian
intervals
to
get
to
allow
pedestrians
a
head
start
over
Vehicles.
Before
you
know,
the
adjacent
vehicle
faces
would
start.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
and
then
Mr
Duffy.
If
you
could
come
up
and
just
ask
just
talk
about
because
Mr
chai
talked
about
it
crossing
guards
sure
as
a
possible
temperature,
let's
say
we
said
yes
to
the
lights,
which
is
a
10-year
out
thing
for
10
years.
Could
you
use
crossing
guards
at
those
two
intersections
during
the
time
that
you
would
need
it
yeah.
N
So
currently
there
was
a
job
posting
at
Dewey
and
Sheridan
that
has
been
open
for
I
have
no
idea
how
long
it
had
been
open.
Finally,
one
of
my
own
teachers
applied
for
that
position.
We've
had
to
adjust
her
daily
schedule,
just
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
a
safer
intersection.
N
It
is
flows
a
little
bit
better.
However,
the
same
situation
applies
that
now
I'm
putting
an
employee
out
in
in
their
section
where
it's
already
dangerous.
So
it's
it
is.
It
is
a
situation
that
we
we've
started,
but
it
is
also
program
still
a
situation.
It's
it's
pretty
dangerous.
Now,
not
only
for
those
But.
It
includes
now
one
of
my
teachers
going
out
there
into
that
area.
On
California
and
Walker.
We
that's
a
little
bit
more
difficult.
N
We
have
one
teacher
that
is,
we,
we
rotate
the
staff
through
there,
one
of
the
Middle
School
staffs,
to
try
to
stop
that.
However,
there
are
two
different
areas
that
you
can
cross
at,
so
you
can
cross
on
the
south
side
of
California
or
you
can
cross
on
the
north
side
of
California
and
and
if
they
cross,
where
my
teacher
is,
then
they
they
have
a
crosswalk.
N
But
if
that
is
then
they're
Crossing
they
either
have
to
get
across
California
unprotected
to
get
to
where
the
teacher
is
one
way
or
the
other
or
they
they
cross
in
without
the
crosswalk.
So
yes,
we've
we've
got
one
that
volunteers
from
the
middle
school
and
then
we
have
a
teacher
that
has
gone
in
as
a
crossing
guard
that
has
applied
and
was
accepted
for
that
position.
So
it
has
helped
again.
It
is.
It
is
not
the
safest
way
for
us
to
do
that,
but
it
has
has
been
helping.
A
L
I'd
like
to
speak
on
it
yeah,
because
everybody's
surprised
so
I
actually
have
a
child
at
John
Rex,
and
we
started
this
committee
to
talk
about
what
was
possible.
Actually,
we
had
a
meeting
set
for
the
afternoon
that
two
children
were
hit
that
morning.
So
then
it
became
more
of
an
expeditious
like
we
need
to
meet
now.
We
need
to
have
this
conversation
now
we
need
resolution
now
and
I
I
completely
understand
how
it
doesn't
meet
the
mutcd
I
get
it.
This
is
a
pedestrian
focused
request.
L
It
is
an
area
of
town
that
sees
so
much
pedestrian
activity,
especially
as
people
are
dropping
off
or
picking
up,
and
so
it
is
not
within
the
realm
of
does
this
require
a
speed
limit
or
a
stop
sign
or
a
stoplight
in
comparison
to
a
lot
of
the
other
intersections
that
we're
considering
above
that,
one
of
the
things
I
did
recommend
to
them
is
to
apply
for
a
stop
sign
and
a
stoplight
I
completely
understand
I.
Think
we
all
do.
L
We
want
a
stoplight,
but,
like
commissioner
Kula
said,
that's
10
15
years
out,
we
cannot
wait
10
or
15
additional
years
to
have
safety
for
these
intersections.
We
can't
because
what
we're
seeing
is
children
getting
hit,
and
we
can't
continue
to
wait
that
length
of
time
so
getting
a
stop
sign.
In
now
we
just
approved
this
body
just
approved
a
stop
sign
on
chartel
right
between
the
the
jail
and
the
police
station,
where
there
are
stoplights
all
up
and
down
chartel,
and
we
didn't
have
any
problem
approving
a
stop
sign
for
that.
L
L
Stop
signs
are
generally
taller
than
a
car
is
anyway,
so
there
should
be
a
sight
line
there,
but
making
that
a
little
bit
more
I
don't
know
visible
making.
However,
we
need
to
make
this
happen.
I
think
that
it's
really
important
to
get
something
in
and
functional
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I
would
hope
that
you
would
consider
saying
yes
to
the
stop
signs
and
the
stoplights
so
that
we
can
get
those
on
the
list
for
the
Geo
Bond,
because
we
do
we
agree.
A
We
have
responsibility
to
the
citizenship,
to
flow
traffic
into
the
city,
so
they
can
get
to
work
and
we
have
responsibility
to
flow
them
out
when
they
need
to
go
and
when
we
have
lights
on
those
two
feeder
streets
and
no
that's
how
I
would
consider
them
in
two
streets
that
are
signalized,
so
they
could
flow
the
traffic
and
it
adjusts
the
time
probably
going
in
the
morning
going
into
the
city
Keeps,
the
Lights
green,
so
and
then
just
the
opposite
in
the
afternoon,
going
out
to
put
a
stop
control,
there
would
mess
that
up,
because,
if
they're
flowing
and
flowing
and
then
have
to
stop
whether
there's
no
reason
to
stop.
A
Let's
say
it's
a
it's
a
it's
not
a
school
day,
summertime
all
that
kind
of
stuff
we
would
be
affecting
others
for
this
problem.
So
I
think
we
need
to
weigh
that
in
also
that
we
have
a
dual
responsibility:
not
just
the
school
okay,
I.
L
Would
also
beg
for
everybody
to
consider
that
our
responsibility
to
get
a
driver
through
the
street
25
seconds
faster
than
they
would
normally
get
through,
that
is
far
outweighed
by
protecting
the
safety
of
an
entire
body
of
people
when
they
are
active.
I.
Think
that
that
that
completely
overshadows
the
idea
of
trying
to
get
somebody
through
that
intersection,
faster.
A
L
So,
and
and
like
Mr
Duffy
said
there
is
a
stopping
guard,
there's
it's
not
on
Sheridan,
it
is
only
across
Dewey.
So
if
you
park
on
either
side
of
Sheridan,
you
have
to
cross
it.
Dewey
then
go
to
the
light
at
Walker,
which
increases
a
lot
more
of
the
traffic
right
at
Walker,
but
foot
traffic
at
Walker,
the
the
actual
the
crossing
guard
does
not
work
along.
L
Sheridan
does
not
step
into
shared
in
traffic,
probably
because
it's
terrifying
and
there's
not
a
crosswalk
that
is
as
visible
and
so
that
person
only
acts
on
the
side
of
Sheridan
right
in
front
of
the
Dewey
cars
and
that's
it
so
that
person
is
not
directing
traffic.
There
are
people
that
Park
along
Dewey
on
the
north
side
of
Sheridan.
There
are
people
that
the
drive-through
to
drop
off
is
on
the
south
side
of
Sheridan
on
Dewey,
and
that
entire
section
for
about
20
minutes
in
the
morning
is
mass
chaos.
L
And
so,
of
course,
there
are
people
that
are
turning
into
pedestrians
that
are
trying
to
cross.
There
are
parents
that
are
going
left
or
right
as
pedestrians
are
trying
to
cross
and
there's
only
one
traffic
guard
who
is
just
directing
traffic
and
standing
in
front
of
the
people
who
were
trying
to
leave
the
lane
like
the
drop-off
Lane.
So
it's
not
trying
to
stop
traffic
in
the
middle
of
Sheridan,
which
I
don't
blame.
You
I,
don't
blame
you
for
not
putting
a
teacher
in
the
middle
of
Sheridan
trying
to
stop
traffic.
L
H
There
there
can't
be
anybody
up
here.
That's
not
sympathetic
to
this.
It's
just
mind-boggling,
I'm
sitting
here,
thinking
addressing
that
addressing
Sheridan
and
Dewey
is,
is
necessary,
but
I'm
I'm
of
the
belief
that
the
longer
term
installed
traffic
signal
is
the
best
way
to
go.
But
in
the
interim,
where
is
this
City's
policy
on
on
crossing
guards
being
able
to
work
with
pylon
mounted?
H
Stop
signs,
for
example
like
let's,
let's
say
that
this
intersection
doesn't
have
the
ordinance
for
stop
signs,
but
the
the
crossing
guard
or
whoever
in
the
morning
and
the
afternoon
at
the
pickup
time,
has
the
authority
to
bring
out
temporary
pylon
signs
and
place
them
there,
maybe
even
one
right
in
the
middle
of
the
freaking
intersection
and
and
where?
Where
is
our
police
force
on
an
issue
like
this?
H
Where,
where
would
where
would
our
Police
Department
be
whether
it
be
on
the
clock
or
or
contracted
out
off
the
clock
to
to
address
these
kinds
of
intersections
and
direct
traffic
in
a
more
authoritative
way
than
a
than
a
crossing
guard?
So.
B
A
D
D
D
And
this
I
think
that
as
far
as
temporary
or
a
transient
always
stop
condition
goes.
D
That
would
have
that
would
need
some
more
research
and
the
reason
for
that
is
I.
Don't
think
it
I'm
not
sure
how
something
like
that
could
could
bring
up
any
liability
in
the
part
of
the
city,
because
if
someone
was
to
leave
a
sign
out
or
put
it
out
too
soon
or
something
like
that
or
someone
may
be
unfamiliar
with
it
and
then
just
roll
right
past
it
I
mean
it
would
be
I'm,
not
sure
I
think
that
would
that
would
take
some
legal
research
to.
A
D
On
these
roads,
we've
got
school
zones
which
drop
the
regulatory
speed
limit
to
25
when,
when
needed,
for
you
know
basically
for
kids
to
be
able
to
cross
the
street
and
under
situations
like
that,
crossing
guards
will
typically
work
because
they're
interrupting
a
lower
speed
traffic
flow
and
and
in
a
particular
case
like
this
you've
you've
got
predominantly
traffic
That's
Heavy
in
one
way
or
the
other,
depending
on
the
time
of
the
day,
and
the
guard
only
really
needs
is
only
looking
for
a
gap
in
order
to
be
able
to
enter
the
intersection
and
bring
everything
to
a
halt
and
then
bring
and
then
allow
kids
to
cross
the
road.
A
Okay,
so
then
he
had
a
second
point
over
to
you
Captain,
whether
they're
on
duty
that
just
kind
of
hang
out
there
in
that
area
or
whether
it's
a
contract
with
a
work
as
an
off-duty
cop
or
something.
T
Off
the
top
of
my
head,
no
I,
don't
know
of
a
unit
that
daily
is
assigned
to
any
one
specific
school
or
area.
Hey
go!
Do
traffic
control.
Obviously,
yes,
there
are
times
when
you
can
hire
officers
in
an
off-duty
capacity
to
do
an
extra
job,
but
that's
going
to
be
cost
prohibitive
over
a
long
period
of
time,
if
you're
paying
an
officer
or
two.
However
many
you
would
need
you
know
an
hourly
rate
to
be
there
for
what
is
at
least
two
hours
in
the
morning.
T
Two
hours
in
the
afternoon
I
mean
that's
over
a
long
period
of
time.
That's
going
to
be
cost
prohibitive.
I
would
assume
I'm
absolutely
with
the
crossing
guard
stuff
I'm,
not
absolutely
willing
to
try
to
brainstorm
that
I
work
with
the
hiring
manager
who
hires
and
trains
the
crossing
guards
and
I
know
it
was
a
little
slower
process
getting
them
hired
than
we
wanted.
T
There
was
some
kind
of
reorganization
and
things
within
HR
and
Personnel,
but
I
know
one
I'm,
assuming
the
teacher
you
spoke
about
is
scheduled
for
some
training
and
orientation,
I
believe
in
March
and
I
work
like
I
said
with
the
employee
that
provides
that
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
we
can
get
together
even
afterwards
and
start
brainstorming
ideas
of
the
crossing
guard
situation.
The
training
and
I
can
from
here
take
back
because,
like
we
have
a
Motors
unit
that
does
traffic
enforcement,
but
again
I.
T
Just
don't
know
that
long
term
that
that's
a
solution
that
I
could
say
hey
every
day
we
can
have
Motors
officers
there,
for
you
know
four
hours
a
day
with
other
duties
and
extra
patrols
and
responsibilities
that
they
have
but
I'm
more
than
happy
to
sit
down
and
meet
with
you
guys
and
try
to
work
towards.
You
know
if
it
has
to
be
a
temporary
solution
as
we're
waiting
for
more
permanent
traffic
enforcement.
H
Four
years,
what
would
it
would
it
crossing
guard,
carry
a
stop
sign.
T
H
Me
to
do
some
real
serious
Research
into
whether
or
not
a
pylon
four-way
stop
pylon
could
be
set
during
a
certain
period
of
a
day
in
the
center
of
the
intersection.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
that
would,
if
a
human
being
can
stop
traffic
without
there
being
a
ordinance
for
a
stop
sign
there,
it
would
seem
the
way
there
must
be
some
loophole
that
we
could
work
around
here
with
that
the
other.
H
The
other
concern
that
I
neglected
to
say
earlier
is
one
of
the
last
things
in
the
world
we
could
ever
afford
to
have
happen
is
an
assumption
that
a
stop
sign
or
even
a
traffic
light
for
that
matter
is
going
to
actually
stop
somebody
they're
in
an
environment
like
a
school
crossing.
You
know
where
we're
talking
about.
H
You
know
children,
parents
and
teachers
I'd
still
want
a
crossing
guard,
even
if
there
were
stop
signs,
even
if
there
was
a
traffic
control,
because
this
school
is
in
an
environment
unlike
practically
any
other
school
in
the
City
of
Oklahoma
City.
With
regard
to
the
volume
of
traffic
and
the
density
down,
there,
we'll
figure
it
out
it's
going
to
be
some
work.
E
C
A
couple
of
things
one
has
the
school
offered
to
pay
for
the
lights.
That
would
that
would
that
would
heat
speed
it
up.
That's.
L
A
a
traditional
scoreboard
has,
but
there
no,
it
is,
is
very
costly.
They
didn't
even
want
to
I
think
last
summer
there
was
an
option
for
us
to
do
Hawk
lights,
to
do
pedestrian,
Hawk
lights,
and
it
was
quoted
at
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
the
school
did
not
have
the
funding
to
be
able
to
even
apply
for
that,
there's
no
way
that
they
could
pay
for
a
stoplight
on
their
own.
A
N
C
N
It's
been
real
hard
recently,
so
those
those
dollars
have
not
come
in
at
what
it
was
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
so
forth.
So
it
it
is
a
difficult
situation
to
ask
for
it's.
I
I
know
that
that
the
thirty
thousand
dollars
the
previous
administration
it
when,
when
you
don't
carry
much
more
than
that
in
a
carryover,
and
you
you
have
to
hang
on
to
everything
just
to
get
the
first
paychecks
out
before
in
July
before
the
money
starts.
C
No
I
think
it
you
know.
Obviously
something
needs
to
be
done,
but
yeah
when,
when
the
city
decides
to
build
it
school
downtown
I
mean
we
need
to
take
care
of
it.
You
know,
and
they
put
it
on
a
extremely
busy
intersection,
instead
of
maybe
somewhere
else
downtown.
That
could
have
been
a
little
less
traffic
for
whatever
reason
they
you
know
so
at
this
point
it
does
need
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
so
you
know,
Unfortunately
they
can't
raise
the
money
to
do
the
lights
quickly.
So
I
think
stop
signs.
C
Even
though
it's
out
of
character,
you
know,
would
be
the
the
move
until
I
would
say
both
yeah.
You
know
we
passed
the
lights
and
but
do
stop
signs
until
the
lights
get
paid
for
and
then
take
the
stop
signs
down.
But
you
know
but
I
think
it
I
think
something
has
to
be
done.
I
mean
it's
just
there's.
You
know
it's
just
too
much:
traffic
800
kids
there!
Now
you
know
when
it
was
turning
out.
C
Last
time
there
was
200.,
so
you
know
I
think
I
think
something
has
to
be
done.
All.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we've
quoted
recently
at
my
job
was
we
looked
at
traffic
signals
and
we
were
right
around
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
intersection
for
a
signal.
So
you
know
the
two
intersections
pretty
close
to
a
million
dollars
to
your
point,
but
I
am
really
interested
in
Hawk
signals.
Other
types
of
devices
that
may
have
been
discussed
with
the
applicant
that
we
could
be
exploring
as
well.
K
If
there's
some
possibilities,
including
potential
hardscapes,
is
there
any
way
of
doing
some
Bowl
bouts,
potentially
to
kind
of
reduce
the
the
length
that
they're
actually
trying
to
cross
those
streets?
Grand
recognizing
that
there's
the
the
bike
lanes
and
how
do
you
work
out
the
bulb
outs
with
those
bike?
Lanes
with
that
and
then
the
other
thing
to
the
point.
The
the
The
Crossings
on
there
I
know
it's
film
row,
but
that
is
kind
of
hard
to
see.
K
D
Well,
one
of
my
staff
came
and
visited
with
me
earlier
today
and
and
learned
that
our
Street
departments
was
planning
on
being
at
the
Dewey
and
Sheridan
intersection
today,
basically
widening
out
the
striping.
That's
currently
there
that
right,
there
is
just
a
was
a
temporary
measure.
It's
a
four
inch
line,
I
believe
they're,
going
back
with
an
eight
inch
line,
but
they
won't
be
the
continentalist
they'll
just
be
the
typical
parallel
eight
inch
crosswalk
lines,
so
that's
being
done
at
this
particular
intersection.
D
As
far
as
you
know,
the
rest
of
it,
it
was
done
as
a
film
row
project
and
everything
was
done
as
a
streetscape
and
I
think
the
intention
was
to
do
something
other
than
or
to
to
have
it
a
crosswalk,
but
to
do
it
in
in
ways
that
were
non-traditional,
which
is
basically
with
reflective
markings.
Of
course,
the
mutcd
prescribes
that
the
best
way
to
Market
a
pedestrian
Crossing
is
to
use
retro
reflective
markings
as
opposed
to
you
know.
Muted
colors
used
in
like
streetscapes,
is.
L
D
That's
I
think
it's
economy
of
scale,
because
if
you
stop
and
think
about
it,
there
should
be
signs
like
that
at
you
know,
on
the
approach
to
every
intersection
throughout
downtown,
because
you're
going
to
encounter
pedestrians
everywhere
and
like
the
you
know,
the
parents
had
mentioned
their
kids
will
take
walking
field
trips
and
they'll
go
from
the
school
over
to
the
Norwalk
Library,
so
there's
yeah
it
becomes
economy
of
scale.
L
A
So
yeah
and
and
when
we
talk
about
a
four-way,
stop
or
three-way
stop
down
south
there,
as
the
staff
mentioned
just
put
in
a
stop
sign,
there
is
not
going
to
do
anything
because
you
have
the
bike
lane,
then
you
have
Park
in
and
you
have
trees
it's
going
to
require.
If
we
do
put
stop
controls
there,
a
very
creative
way
to
tell
everybody
whether
it's
the
Le,
the
LED
Circle
solar
powered
lights,
whether
it's
a
big
red,
bulb
right
up
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection
with
wire.
A
You
know
how
just
a
stop
up
there.
It's
going
to
require
something
like
you
were
talking
about,
maybe
put
something
to
say:
hey
there
is
crosswalks
here
or
heavy
pedestrian
traffic
zone
or
something
yes,
sir,.
M
D
It
was
taken
out
a
few
years
ago,
yeah
following
the
schools
closure,
that
was
a
mid-block
pedestrian
Crossing
that
was
just
to
interrupt
flow
on
the
main
road
ordinarily
I
mean
I
mean
like
if
you're
looking
at
something
like
well,
a
pedestrian
hybrid
Beacon,
which
is
basically
a
hawk
type
signal.
Those
are
pedestrian,
Crossing
specific,
but
they're
not
intended
to
be
used
at
intersections.
So
in
a
case
like
this,
the
crossing
locations,
for
you
know
around
John
Rex,
are
basically
at
intersections.
G
M
M
I
would,
at
this
point
in
time,
I
would
lean
more
towards
the
city's
recommendation
of
crosswalks
until
it
could
be
funded
for
the
lights
and
I
understand
the
media
urgency
of
this,
but
also
I'm,
not
sure
it's
going
to
give
the
effect
that
we
really
want.
That
is
the
long
term
is
going
to
be
stopping
a
large
volume
of
traffic
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
A
B
D
That's
the
intersection
of
Sheridan
and
Walker.
We
actually
had
damage
to
wiring
that
took
out
this
took
out
power
to
this
particular
signal,
but
the
signal
down
at
Reno
is
still
operating,
and
this
is
just
kind
of
it
would
mirror
the
effect
of
what
and
always
stop
would
probably
do
how
it
would
influence
morning
rush
hour,
traffic
on
Walker.
U
Sure
I'm
Justin
Henry,
with
the
Transportation
planner
for
the
planning
department,
it
sounds
like
there
are
maybe
some
additional
options
that
you'd
like
to
explore:
I
just
like
to
offer
that
we
wouldn't
mind
working
with
the
applicant
if
you
wanted
to
defer
for
a
month.
So
we
could
talk
about
some
other
potential
design.
Solutions,
maybe
come
back
to
you
with
more
options.
Just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
There.
U
Could
talk
about
maybe
some
other
ways
to
kind
of
increase
the
visibility
of
the
pedestrians
that
are
crossing
to
maybe
do
some
additional
kind
of
so
the
stop
signage
and
there's
what
Mr
chai
said
is
true
about.
You
know,
uniformity,
what
you're
usually
looking
for.
There
are
some
instances
where
the
lack
of
uniformity
can
actually
kind
of
be
a
little
bit.
You
know
alerting
to
drivers
as
well
and
kind
of
create
some
additional
attention.
So
some
of
that
stuff
we
could
kind
of
look
into
some
more.
U
C
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
I
think
we
could
go
ahead
and
approve
the
stop
lights
today,
but
we
don't
need
to
hold
those
off
because
they're
10
years
out
anyway.
So
if
we
approve
those,
then
we
can
hold
off
on
the
stop
signs
today.
Maybe-
and
there
might
be
some
other
options
besides
stop
signs
is
what
he
was
saying.
A
Okay,
and,
of
course,
if
we
don't
do
the
stop
signs
today,
we
have
that
left
turn
thing
that
we're
going
to
talk
about,
so
that
that's
a
quick
e
that
could
go
up
pretty
quick
that
doesn't
have
to
go
to
City
Council.
K
L
We
can
make
this
more
pedestrian
friendly
without
the
usage
of
always
stop
control
or
stop
lights
or
whatever
that
looks
like
that
still
has
to
be
funded,
and
so
there
is
an
element
to
if
we
put
off
putting
in
a
stop
sign
at
that
intersection,
then
we
are
delaying
potentially
for
years
fixing
either
of
these
intersections
and
to
me,
that's
not,
okay,
I
think
it's
pretty
apparent
that
that
is
not
okay
to
me,
but,
like
we
can't
just
say:
okay,
let's
punt
this
for
another
month
until
we
figure
out
another
solution
that
will
eventually
cost
money
that
the
school
does
not
have
to
put
toward
this.
L
A
Except
that
we're
asked
the
counselor
and
the
staff
to
look
at
temporary,
stop
signs,
and
it
may
be
that
there's
a
sign
there.
That
says
stop
from
this
time
to
this
time
on
school
days,
like
the
no
left
turn
thing
and
the
crossing
guard
puts
one
out
there
and
it
turns
into
a
four-way
stop
for
an
hour
in
the
morning
an
hour
at
night
or
any
time
there's
something
going
on
at
the
school
and
you
make
a
four-way
stop
and
then
you
don't
impact
all
the
other
people.
A
But
of
course
we
don't
have
that
answer
today
and
that's
where
I
think
we're
talking.
There's
been
talk
about
maybe
deferring
the
stop
sign
ones
until
we
have
more
answer
on
that
get
the
left
turn
because
that,
because,
if
you
do
the
stop
sign,
then
you
don't
need
the
left
turn
thing
we
can
get.
The
left
turn
up
there
that
only
costs
a
sign
and
then
get
some
data
from
the
staff
in
the
counseling
office
and
then
go
from
there.
So
I
think
we've
all
laid
it
on
the
table.
I
think
so
so.
V
A
G
C
A
A
Just
reset
reload
your
that
little
circle
thing
up
there
and
it
works
fine.
For
me.
A
C
A
Majority,
it
takes
the
majority.
So
item
is
not
approved.
We
can
take
a
a
second
motion
on
this
item,
or
is
it
not
approved
yeah?
It's
we
that's.
It.
A
V
I
was
just
telling
Mr
Chad
that
you
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
six
months.
I
mean
that's
a
general
rule,
but
it's
it's
not
a
law,
so
you
know
we.
We
can
look
at
that
at
bringing
it
back
sooner.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
L
A
A
Okay,
I
had
a
mass
passed,
seven
in
favor,
one
against
and
so
action
items
on.
This
is
the
staff
and
council
is
going
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
temporary
stock
control
at
those
two
intersections
and
we'll
have
some
information
on
that,
and
maybe
even
some
action
items
when
we
come
to
the
next
meeting
right.
C
C
A
All
right,
so
that
takes
care
of
item
five.
We
go
on
now
to
item
six
comments
from
citizens.
Does
anybody
else
would
like
to
speak
to
the
traffic
Commission
on
any
item
or
no
on
any
issue?
Okay,
we
go
now
reports
and
other
items
from
traffic
Commissioners
Etc
we
go
over
to
the
commissioner
Varnell.
None.
H
H
H
I
am
not
I'm
not
able
to
learn
I'm,
not
able
to
discover
where
driver
or
where
development
impact
fees
go,
how
they're
applied
who's
in
charge
of
them.
How
much
money
there
is
what
they're
even
used
for.
But
what
I
have
learned
is
that
if
at
178th
in
Pennsylvania
Avenue
there's
a
neighborhood,
that's
been
there
for
25
years
and
all
of
a
sudden
commercial
development
goes
in
right
across
the
street.
H
H
H
Guess
this
I
guess
a
good
beginning
for
us
would
be
you
know,
instead
of
being
able
to
look
at
an
applicant
and
say
in
your,
your
traffic
signal
is
approved.
Good
luck,
finding
funding!
You
know!
Maybe
this
body
would
be
more
prone
to
to
approving
traffic
signals
if
we
understood
better
that
maybe
there
are
other
resources
besides
just
a
future
Bond
or
you
know
the
good
graces
of
some
developers
that
you
know,
applicants
that
we
have
come
before
us
that
are
willing
to
pay
for
them.
D
Or
we
can
have
a
make
arrangements
for
someone
to
make
a
presentation
regarding
impact
fees
because
you'd,
probably
even
if
you
had
a
pres,
had
a
a
written.
You
know
document
to
look
at
I'm.
Sure
there'd
be
other
questions,
okay
related
to
it,
because
impact
fees
were
several
years
back
when
the
city
enacted
the
impact
fee
ordinance,
it
was
for
it
was
for
traffic
impact
fees
and
parks
for
the
two
things.
D
B
D
The
the
impact
fee
that
they
paid
in
would
go
towards
Parks
improvements
and
traffic
improvements,
and
it
would
go
into
it
would
go
into
the
benefit
Zone
in
which
it
was
located
and
there's
like
14
benefit
zones
across
the
city
and
the
way
impact
fees
are
structured
for
traffic.
It's
for
traffic
capacity
improvements,
a
traffic
signal
by
itself
best
way
to
give
you
an
analogy.
Is
it
functions
as
a
valve
in
a
pipeline?
It
doesn't
make
any
more.
It
doesn't
make
any
more
fluid
pass
through
the
pipeline.
D
Then
the
pipeline
is
physically
capable
of
carrying
it
can
grow.
It
can
bring
it
to
a
complete
stop
or
it
can
allow
it
to
flow
fully,
but
it
does
not
add
any
capacity
to
the
pipeline.
The
only
way
you
do
that
is
you
get.
Is
you
basically
have
a
bigger
pipeline
or
in
this,
in
the
case
of
a
traffic
impact
fee,
you've
got
a
wider
Road.
B
D
A
lane
whether
it
be
a
turn
lane
a
right
turn
lane.
You
know
an
additional
through
Lane,
something
along
that
line,
but
adding
adding
a
regulatory
control
which
either,
which
can
bring
traffic
to
a
stop
or
just
allow
it
to
flow,
doesn't
meet
the
criteria
covered
strictly
under
the
impact
fee,
which
requires
the
monies
collected
to
be
spent
with
within
the
benefit
area
in
which
they're
collected
towards
making
a
capacity
improvements.
So.
H
What
I'd
like
to
learn
more
I
I,
can't
imagine
that
my
colleagues
wouldn't
appreciate
learning
more.
You
know.
Perhaps
my
comment
is
asking
too
much
of
of
development
impact
fees.
Maybe
we
could
learn
that
the
requirement
to
widen
a
road
to
put
in
a
left
turn
lane
and
a
adjust
adjust
the
storm
water
management
and
things
like
that
could
be
accomplished
with
that
fund
and
then
the
actual
cost
of
the
light
could
be
something
different,
I,
don't
know,
but
I'd
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
that.
Yes,.
D
But
say
because,
prior
to
impact
fees,
developers
turned
in
a
traffic
impact
study
depending
on
whether
or
not
it
was
we.
We
determined
it
was
necessary
because,
when
you've
seen
enough
developments
and
seen
as
much
and
seen
the
traffic
generation
patterns
over
the
years,
you
can
pretty
much
tell
when
a
development
needs
to
look
at
doing.
You
know
submitting
a
traffic
impact
fee
or
if
it
doesn't
contribute
enough
that
it'll
ever
make
any
difference
or
make
enough
a
meaningful
enough
difference.
And
we
would
look
at
those.
D
We
would
look
at
the
size
of
development
and
we
look
at
the
neighboring
intersections
and
we
would
basically
identify
locations
that
they
probably
needed
to
study
as
part
of
the
traffic
impact
fee
and
the
or
not
the
traffic
impact
fee.
As
part
of
their
traffic
impact
study
and
in
the
past
those
items
would
be
talked
about
at
the
Planning
Commission
level,
but
exactly
10
years
gone
by.
Then
they,
when
the
city
changed
away
from
requiring
traffic
impact
studies
and
then
just
started
collecting
a
traffic
impact
fee.
D
It
absolved
developers
of
having
to
produce
traffic
impact
studies,
and
so
now
now
the
burden
of
selecting
where
capacity
improvements
get
made,
becomes
more
of
a
a
staff
function,
and
that's
it's
not
just
in
traffic.
It's
it's
spread
out
through
Public,
Works,
I,
believe
planning
department
has
got
involvement
in
allegation
of
or
selecting
projects
for,
traffic
impact
fees,
but,
like
I,
said
it's
designed
for
in
for
capacity
improvements
and
like
a
traffic
signal
at
like
Dewey
and
Sheridan
or
California
and
Walker
would
fail
the
the
would
fail
the
capacity
Improvement
litmus
test
for
using
fees.
H
D
H
Kind
of
my
mind,
I
think
my
car,
okay,
the
other
thing
I'll
be
I'll,
be
quick,
there's
two
other
things.
The
other
thing
is
is
VMI
city
council
person,
I
received
a
letter
from
a
citizen
in
Ward
2
that
had
moved
back
here
from
California,
and
all
she
could
talk
about
is
her
disgust
with
the
red
light
running
at
the
major
intersections
in
Oklahoma
City
and
we've
all
witnessed
it.
I'll
sit
at
a
red
light
with
a
left
turn,
control
and
I
will
see.
H
H
We
can't
just
because
our
light
turns
green
doesn't
mean
we
can
go
and
everything
is
safe,
but
she
did
say
it
a
Northwest,
63rd
and
May
Avenue
as
being
a
particularly
bothered
concerning
intersection
for
her
and
I
would
love
to
to
see
if
we
could
get
an
officer
or
two
to
sit
at
that
intersection
for
a
good,
healthy
period
of
time
and
observe
what
happens
there
in
sight.
H
Accordingly,
that
was
the
request
that
she
had
the
the
bigger
request
that
she
had
was
all
the
red
lights
on
Northwest
Expressway,
you
know
I
know
we're
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
take
that
one
arm.
But
if
we
took
on
one
we
might
be
able
to
tell
some
people
in
a
small
area-
hey
let's.
Let's
not
do
this.
H
The
third
one
is
a
question:
I
had
I
had
learned
that
in
business,
Improvement
districts
and
streetscaped
areas
where
the
city
has
contracted
with
OG
e
to
install
the
enhanced
lighting,
Hardware
products,
the
decorative
lights,
the
decorative
Red
Light,
Street,
poles,
and
things
like
that.
I've
had
a
citizen
witness
in
Ward
2,
which
I've
confirmed
on
Western
Avenue
there
when
they
get
hit.
H
For
some
reason,
the
standard
is
being
replaced.
It's
not
the
decorative
one
that
that
is
going
back
up
did.
Did
you
learn
anything
about
that
on
specifically
Lombardi
and
the?
If
you're
Northbound
on
Western
Avenue,
the
westbound
entrance
ramp
to
I-44
those
were
decorative
street
lights
and
they've
been
replaced
with
standards.
D
Just
have
to
see
about
ordering
a
replacement
now
the
traffic
signal
over
at
Lombardi
in
Western
was
the
contractor
doing
the
widening
work
back
into
it,
with
a
dump
truck
and
took
it
out.
So
the
pole,
that's
currently,
there
is
temporary
okay.
The
contractor
is
required
to
obtain
a
new
poll
so
that
decorative
pole,
you
know
basically
black
with
with
it
with
kind
of
ornamental
fixtures
that
will
go
back
the
way
it
was
originally
and
the
other
one
doesn't
just
have
to
be
ordered
and
the
city
will
take
care
of
that.
But.
B
D
T
T
They
said
they
deserved
a
lot
of
vehicles,
but
very
few
that
were
traveling
over
30
I
think
the
speed
limit
is
25.,
but
they
did
make
12
contacts
issued
four
citations
and
then
for
Southeast,
32nd
and
Anderson.
They
made
five
contacts
and
wrote
five
citations,
and
if
you
remember
right,
that's
the
one
I
believe
the
gentleman
would
pull
a
trailer
and
they
did
say
there
are
Vehicles
they're
still
continuing
to
do
that.
One,
because
some
of
the
hills
and
stuff
and
the
speeds
does
make
it
they
could
see.
T
Where
it
is
challenging
and
actually
just
the
other
day,
I
forget
the
speed,
but
there
was
somebody
they.
They
wrote
a
citation
for
going
a
good
number
over
the
speed
limit
and
then
the
parking
complaint
I
forwarded
that
to
Santa
Fe
division.
So
they
could
do
some
extra
patrols.
I
did
hear
back.
We
have
a
Derrick
lift
officer,
Sergeant
Swearingen
I
sent
it
to
him
also
and
I.
Think
the
next
day
he
went
out
and
wrote
five
parking
citations
and
did
some
warnings.
So
that's
that's
continuing
to
it.